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World building MMOs edition
This general is for discussing new and upcoming MMOs, or MMOs with populations that are too small to sustain their own generals.

MOs with documented MMO aspects are also welcome here, such as games like Diablo, ARK, and Dark and Light.

>Recommendations
http://pastebin.com/4ykaqgvu

>Game databases
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm
http://www.mmobomb.com/games/

>Popular foreign MMOs & MMOs in development
http://pastebin.com/iALuQdht

>Popular upcoming MMOs
Bless: http://bless.aeriagames.com/
Revelation Online: https://ro.my.com/en
Dark and Light: http://www.playdnl.com/
Albion Online: https://albiononline.com/en/home
Ashes of Creation:
http://www.ashesofcreation.com

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>>166656019
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>>166656019
looking for erp gay sex erp sex online for free
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>>166656019
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>>166656113
/terag/ is the place for you if you like dicks.
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RevPasta

>What is Revelation Online?
Fuck off. It's shit.

>Current News
None, it's dead.

>Official Links
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>FAQ - INFORMATIVE! READ BEFORE POSTING!
http://pastebin.com

>Resources
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>Can I play now?
Never

>/revog/ Guilds
There is none

>Steam Group
Steam is a meme
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>>166656670
I'm find you and drink all your milk and protein shakes.
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>>166656873
You're still replying to me?
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>>166656931
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>>166657042
Who's getting triggered now?
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>>166657272
Anon I far form triggered. I been on this site way too long to get triggered by anything posted here.
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>tfw having fun again playing ARPGs
MMOs were a mistake
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>>166657983
dumb anime poster
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>>166658836
Anime is fine but he did post the worst girl from that shitty show.
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>>166659876
Who is best girl?
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>>166660332
none. the show is shit
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>>166660603
This guy gets it.
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what can /mmog/ tell me about this game? good? bad? coming to na? i'm coming here for a first opinion
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>>166660897
I never played, but I heard the endgame was awful.
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>>166660979
Honest question to everyone because I both hear and feel this a lot while playing MMOs:

What's a good endgame? Have you played a game with one?
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>>166661842
Something that doesn't involve logging in to collect the daily reward, and running a dungeon once because your 1 allowed entrance reset.
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>>166654252
Got bored after i got a rune knight.

PLAY WAKFU
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>>166662735
RK is fun.
Wakfu is also fun.
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How do I Ecaflip?
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>>166663772
Get drunk and pray to RNG gods.
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>>166658836
>>166659876
>>166660332
>>166660603
>>166660835
>2017
>still using the concept of """""best""""" or """""worst""""" girl
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>>166663772
dumb cat poster
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>>166663772
Fire and Crit.
Water for some minor Fleas shenanigans.
Earth is ok too but not as damaging as Fire.
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>>166665247
Fuck off, commie.
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So, Rev online is really shit so far, and I'm only level 14. I'm assuming that it isnt gonna get any better
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>>166665247
>this is what people with shit taste actually tell themselves
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anime ruined /mmog/
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>>166665827
We'd all leave if you kill yourself.
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>>166665827
animeposters ruin every general
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>>166665521
>triggered jew/footfag/futafag

>>166665730
no, it's just people who actually see past blantant waifubait. i don't even give a shit about waifus in this show but she at least has a real backstory and better character design
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>>166665932
this
>>166665875
>cancer infecting host killing it
>cancer: we'll leave if you just kys
>>166665958
>>166665247
>emt5
>emt6
reminder you can report this kid for avatarfagging
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>>166665958
>triggered jew

She's a dirty half breed commie and also the worst girl in that awful series.
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>>166666059
People like this is the reason 4chan went to shit.
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>>166666235
wrong
anime ruined 4 chan
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>>166666413
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>>166666176
so you're a jewfag

what's wrong with being half elf? it's literally one of the first RPG subraces

>muh worst girl
elaborate, assuming you're not just memeing yeah i'm bored
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>>166665247
>>166665958
>>166666235
>u-u-u-u-uuuuuwhaaaaaa me violating the rules and being a shitposting cancer is not whats wrong with the site, it's YOU!!!!!
fuck off retard, we'll let the mods deal with trash like you
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>>166665329
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>>166666879
>wahhhhh stop avatarfagging with anime pictures on 4chin
>proceeds to spam cat pictures, frog MMO card game pictures, CC pictures, and ERP copypasta
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>>166667041
>implying im any of those posters
umad as fuck kid, kys
Why are you even here?
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>>166667170
and you think i was the guy avatarfagging chinese cartoons?
>still using meme words like "umad" "kys" "kid" in 2017
damn son it seems like you're the one who's upset
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>>166656019
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>>166655264
>MOs with documented MMO aspects are also welcome here, such as games like Diablo, ARK, and Dark and Light.

Is Dark and Light back? The game has been in legal limbo for years.
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>>166667451
Please contain your butthurt kid, it's above any possible level cap in any MMO game discussed here.
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>>166667778

>http://www.playdnl.com/

Umm wow. I played the beta of the original Dark and Light (Settlers Of Ganareth),

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A-oi4hSUes

and thought while it was a fantastic dragon flight simulator with the best world and weather I'd ever seen in a game the game itself was not good.

Should I be happy it's back? Will it's world and weather engine be comparable (but updated, naturally)? Standing on a high mountain watching a nasty storm come in from the north, pass over you and continue on south was pretty fucking epic. And finding a large dragon to tame and then fly around was great.

Anyone else play it?
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So has anyone here actually shelled out the 18 dollarydoos to get Revelation online?
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>>166668287
>continues projecting
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>>166668384
I'd hope not. I got in from playing Skyforge and it is pretty bad. Controls are janky, characters have weird proportions, too much shit on the screen. Also, the game holds your hand and plays itself for way too long.
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>>166668778
>>166667451
SHHH SHHH it'll be ok kiddo, go play one of these dead mmos
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>>166668778
>continues to use meme arrows
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>>166669015
>continues to shitpost
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anyone plays ELOA?
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Rate my slut.
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>>166669386
isn't that game like devilian?
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>>166669510
slut/10
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D3 is pretty fun for the first 2 weeks of each season
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>>166671941
Kinda like PoE
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You have to pick only one MMO to play for the rest of your life. However the developer will implement every single one of your suggestions ever made.

Which one do you choose?
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>>166675461
Devs can't stop publishers from ruining games.
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>>166675461
Real life
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>>166675461

Every single suggestion of mine makes the choice moot. Every single game would become exactly the dream game I want. Even if I suggest something like "Star Wars Galaxies, I suggest you drop all things Star Wars and become a high fantasy Everquest clone" they'd do it.
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>>166655264
Who Skyforge here?
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Anyone have experience with Naval Action? It looks pretty interesting from what I have watched on youtube but I'd like to hear from people that play it before picking it up.
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>>166676951
I have played a lot of shit games, but none so shit as Skyforge

>actually a lobby game
>only one class was any fun and it was still janky
>level grind tries to be non traditional but is poorly thought out
>my.com
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>>166677476
It may be my shit taste talking but I kind of enjoy playing it casually. I know it's P2W, P2Progress, really, but being F2P in it has been fun so far. I don't look into reaching end game but there's quite a handful of content to keep me entertained at least.
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Revelation is ok but nothing ground breaking.

Naturally, that means it's shit to the faggots that infest this board because "hurr it's not WoW!!!!"
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>really want to play TERA again
>know I'll be disappointed so bad
>already installing
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>>166679741
Just wait for the new class and be disappointed with something new.

At least there might be some shitty event to keep you interested.
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>>166679872
I don't wanna play castanic though so, meh
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>wanted to go back to Dragon Nest after 2 years
>learn that the EU server had a massive crash causing the whole database to be wiped, people losing everything they owned
>population died

Feels so fucking bad man. Dragon nest has such a fun battle system but EU is so dead.

Any other non-dead mmos with a similar battle system?
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>>166678143
until you factor in the P2W cash shop that will get you months ahead
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>>166684186
I thought that game was pay2skipgrind?
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>>166685201
you can literally conver $ to gamme money where you can buy mats in the ah and destroy everyone in pvp for months that is already happening in china and ru.
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>>166682040
vindic-
>non-dead
actually no
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>>166675461
Wakfu
>>166660897
Elsword devs. Combat system is like dfo, its Rena is actually good, best costumes are randomly gained by fusing shop costumes, like dfo. English probably not soon
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>nexon is giving out freeâ„¢ wings and heterochromic eyes
>tfw forced to play everyday so i can get them
>arisha or any other female still has no proper ass
>delia still can't use a lot of hairs/inners shared by other females
There is no escaping from this hell.
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>>166687534
>no ass

The fuck does asia have against asses for real
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I can't see how people play Tera after they hit cap. Dungeon limits is so dumb.
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>>166682040
I want to go back to Dragon's Nest but it is piss easy and not fun.
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>>166688941
Having a big dick or ass means you're a savage.
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>>166689561
That was the ancient Greeks.
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>>166689942
Asians still think that way aswell.
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>>166660897
pretty good, very good gameplay, endgame seems alright but i had trouble getting far into it cause i can't speak gook

NA release at this point seems unlikely
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I Really miss playing MMOS with friends. Now I have no friends. Will anyone here play an MMO with me? I don't care which.
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>>166691467
I wish I was neurotypical enough to have friends
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I'm gonna play Blade and Soul, but I'm never going to go to /bnsg/ again so I might post about it here sometimes, sorry mates
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>>166692224
Sweet me too
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>>166692224
This thread is for shitty games without a general.
Not your personal hangout.
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>>166692224
It's fine. Just like how people talk about Tera here. The generals for both games are full of erping and lewd posting. Here we try to talk about the game.
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>>166692484
Nobody talks about Tera here.
I say how much I wanna fuck an Elin to bump the thread from page 10, and then someone tells me to go back to the terra general, then shitposting happens.
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>>166692665
I talk about Tera here from time to time. Also someone was just talking about Tera a few posts ago mate.
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Nobody wants to play an MMO with me? I'm bored and could use a friend. I just wanna play something with somebody.
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>>166693323
Depends on how "big" you are.
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Are there any MMOs out there where you can build and sail a ship, like in Archeage? I loved that game only for the naval part, and when the game turned to shit I lost that. So I am looking for any MMO where you can build and sail your own ship, a ship that you can use for trade or PvP. Walk around on the boat, fish from the boat, stuff like that. I've seen a game called Wurm but I don't know anything about that game.
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>>166694032
Y-You too?
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>>166687534
>>166688941

I like cute tight butts though
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>>166692224
I couldn't forgive them for what they did to the script of the story, fucking SJWs.
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>>166695982
Tell me about it anon.
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>>166695602
I put this tattoo on my Delia's ass the day it came out, and everyone copied me.
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>>166696351
>lewding Delia
I hope you burn in hell.
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>>166697620
Delia likes giant poles.
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>>166695982
Even completely ignoring the words I can tell it's the most awful kind of shit anime writing. I couldn't imagine it being any better, but I couldn't imagine it being any worse either. What changed?
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>>166697805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF6Mk-YsRYI
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>>166693323

Only if you'll be my waifu
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>>166698245
That's not really it, right?

When playing through it the first time the 'scholar' sounded like a fucking creep to me. His veneer of bringing the tribes together was so paper thin that I thought it was obviously tongue in cheek. If they really tried to change it to be less offensive they failed pretty bad.

I buy it when you say they changed things that would be misogynistic but I can't think of any examples, since the whole game is viewed through a filter of T&A. What did they actually change?
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>>166697620
Delia is the biggest cumslut in the game though
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Fuck off
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>>166699691
delet
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>>166701130
I haven't, but that webm has me interested
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>>166660897
Plays kinda like DFO, but faster and more air combo heavy.
NA release fucking never but theres a partial english patch.
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>>166655264
Whats the best MMO for ERP?
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>>166655264

wizMUD
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>>166703145

WoW or TERA
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>>166703145
Tera obviously you complete unadulterated degenerate
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>>166703145
I wish i could find it, it definitely isn't tera.
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>>166701130
I have, it's pretty fun. But there's very little content.
Housing also suck.
Plus I think they delete your account if you're inactive for too long.
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10
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>tfw your favorite MMOs are dead
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Is Ragnarok Online still alive? Is it worth playing? What's the best Eastern MMO that's also free to play if not RO? Is ToS any good?
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>>166710242
no
no
nothing
no
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What MMOs are you guys playing?
Any good F2P games?
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>>166709519
I use to play DCUO before it went full jew. I really miss those times.
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>>166702452
Might be easier to find with this name.
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>>166710362

B&S - It's okay but being at level cap blows
TERA - It's okay but being under level cap blows
RevO - It's okay but everything's getting wiped
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When does Revo actually come out, i need a game where i can find some new erp fuckbuddies
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>>166713127
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>>166713127
>>166703145
Seriously kill yourselves. We're in the era where porn is so plentiful and you rejects would prefer to type *sexes u* with another sweaty reject.
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>>166713127
just play second life you nerd
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>>166714320
>Jerking off to watching a man fucking a girl

Literal cuck
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>>166714781
>Jerking off to watching a man fucking a girl
thats not the only type of porn out there
you can fulfill your fantasies of watching a man fuck a man if you really want, you massive homosexual
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>>166661842
The age old question.
Perhaps a good 1v1v1 PvP meta game has always been a solid answer, albeit difficult to do.

PvE-wise, it's impossible to say. Your choices come down to doing the same 2-4 dungeons/raids/whatever that come out every 6 months, or having shitty player generated/procedurally generated content.

Maybe the answer is having little to no end game, and just having perma death or something akin to that.

It's hard to know when you want something, but you have no idea what it is.
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D E D
E D E
D E D
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>>166661842
Good PvP that actually pops or can be joined whenever. GW2s open world pvp system ( WvW map ) is a lot of fun ( TOO BAD GW2 COMBAT SUCKS ). If Tera had the playerbase for something like that it would be pretty dank.

Actually challenging PvE content for both parties and solo. Right now Tera has 1 challenging raid, 1 kinda challenging dungeon, and the rest of the game is retard proof.

Problem is BHS does way too much scrub pandering. Where they appeal to the type of so called "gamer" who wants all monsters to do no damage, be easily killed and grinded forever. No challenge allowed. That's basically Tera endgame right now.

When will devs learn that trying to appease the type of terribad player who is too big of a thundering faggot to learn the mechanics never goes well? I keep seeing asian developers do this to their game and the result is always server closure.
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>>166718240
because while the game ends eventually it's better to get the casuals money for a little while then not at all.
I'm not sure if you realize this, but the people who are actually good and invest time into the games will leave because they realize the game is shit.
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>people in the same city as me are starving right now
>I want to spend real money to make my weapon skin look like a book in a game I only play about twice a year, downloaded an hour ago, and am already not super excited about playing further
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I just spent a night downloading Blade and Soul (shitty connection), this game is fucking awful, extremly buggy and, framedrops och spikes randomly with a 1060GTX/overclocked i5/16GB RAM.

How can asians like this garbage? Went straight back to Guild Wars.
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Launching that old Sherwood Dungeon desu lads :/
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>>166720340
now that is something I have not seen in a long time
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>>166719650
So, in which country do you live?
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>>166723181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnt1T0LY2Lc
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>>166724981
burgerstan
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Does anyone play ark? I got wiped about a year ago and quit but I've been thinking about starting again since there's a bunch of new shit and 2x rates are normal now.

Plus server transfers seem coo. Level 82 I think.
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>>166719753
No one actually likes the game, its just regret that doesn't let them quit
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>>166725104
She is super lewd.
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Any of you faggots playing for honor beta right now? Did they changed/fixed anything?

I don't really feel like downloading 20GB just to get disappointed.
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>>166730947
just watch any of its stream, if it's to your liking, download it.
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>>166731920
>streaming
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>>166732256
>having data limits
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>>166702795
Elsword has better and cooler characters than Closers. so i like it more.

Just my opinion
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>>166732627
Your opinion is shit.
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>>166732773
Closers doesn't have things at this level yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAAwSFddcPo
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>>166732842
That looks stupid.
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>>166732898
I dunno why you would think this looks stupid, i think it looks really pretty.

Okay then, you will like this skill then i think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJBWfBE9lvI
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>>166732957
Again, looks stupid.
If I want to look at flashing light I'd set up my christmas tree.
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>>166733025
Well then i guess we just have a different taste, and that's okay.
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>>166733062
Elsword needs to hurry up and bring in the main cast from grand chase. Everything after season 3 sucks.
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>>166733259
Nah, they should keep bringing original and new stuff.

As i said earlier i really like the characters of this game including the new ones
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>>166733336
Fuck the newshits. Bring in Ryan, Lass, Jin, Ronan, and Amy.
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>>166732627
>this image again
You'd never stop, would you?
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>>166733673
>talking about a game you enjoy is bad
This is what /mmog/ is for.
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>>166733836
>enjoying shit games
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>>166734259
When did you become the master of taste good sir? Also could you please tell me what games I should play.
>inb4 they are all shit
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>>166734702
Wakfu
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>wakfu might finally be merging nox and phaeris with remington
If only they did this from the start
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>>166735495
stop lying
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>>166735495
If that happens im going to play again, but i doubt it will happend.
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>>166737193
Putting two dead severs together so they stop being so dead? That just sounds too right.
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>>166736195
>>166737193
There's talk about it on the forums and the mods confirming it so it must be happening eventually. Can't wait to see how fucked the servers will be with handling Haven Worlds and the huge kama inflation coming from Nox
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>>166738954
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH it's happening.
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>>166735495
kama exploits here we go
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>>166710242
bumping this
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>>166655264
Are there any MMOs with fast and/or action based gameplay? I guess an example would be Elsword or DFO, but I've burned out on those games, especially Els. Please let them not be gook

What happened to SoulWorker, Peria and Closers? Are they all ded?
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>>166738954
I don't follow Wakfu much but play Dofus and this is not surprising. Ankama project to merge Dofus servers into a mega server too.
No idea how they are going to manage that.
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>>166745437
Peria was remade and still in production, Closers still kr only.
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>>166741486
No
If you liked the game before it's a short download, you can see why not to play yourself (mostly the player:bot ratio)
Up for debate
It's not RO, but it's not awful your first time through , the exp card system really flusters my jimbobs though
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>>166745437
>action combat
>non gook
wildstar, neverwinter, gw2, teso
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>>166746680
Fuck

>>166747623
Haven't tried Elder Scrolls yet. Wildstar honestly looked like a clusterfuck to me when I looked up videos of it, but I'll try it anyways. I didn't know GW2 went on free until now, although losing a whole class to play with kinda sucks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUNRl3kAATk

I have never heard of this shitty game.
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>>166750000
Quads confirm it's all a ruse
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>>166749782
nigga western """"action combat"""" games are all shit. only the gooks know how to do action combat properly, but they can't into anything else in their games except RNG grind and dressup
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>>166749782
I tried Wildstar about 3 times. Got into it a little the last time but it's just really...weird. Not bad (character creation is fun, actually) and the ideas they had for it were interesting in theory but there aren't enough players to justify playing it in my experience.
>GW2
Be careful with GW2. It's fun but once you hit 80, most of the content is locked behind the Heart of Thorns expansion. I'd avoid PvP as well because most viable builds for it require the elite specs for the classes provided by HoT.
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>>166751549
>tfw Vindictus
I'm still upset.
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>>166753694
Why can't we just have Vindictus combat but all the other stuff mabinogi
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>>166753998
because nexon doesn't want to print money
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>>166753694
I still love this game, its been almost 7 years now and I still play it pretty often.
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>>166754648
I'm still playing it on and off, it's fun when you have decent attack speed.

Such a shame that speed is locked behind high enhancements/enchants.
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>>166751549
I think it's because western games all lean on tan target too much still instead of fully embracing action combat.

Wildstar is a great example - pre launch it was unplayable to me after having played TERA first, until I got a mod (which is now built in to the game) that fixes the camera and lets you use mouse buttons for attacks. They slowly pulled away all gtaoe and abilities that require a target, making everything so much more fluid. It's easily my favorite combat system in an MMO now (or tied with B&S). Too bad it's fucking deeeeeaaaaad.

Pic also related.
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Anyone still playing MHO? Is the english translation team still patching it up?
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>>166754947
seriously w* combat is so much better than wow holy fuck carbine please stop killing the game
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GOLDEN RAYS OF THE GLORIOUS SUNSHINE
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SETTING DOWN SUCH A BLOOD-RED LIGHT
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Now the players slowly retreat

To the WoW clones, out of sight
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Shitty games from across the oceans

Now they're all going free to play
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i cant enjoy any mmorpg anymore, maybe i outgrown it all, maybe my autism is going into overdrive.

im fucking bored.
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>>166749782
Actually, Sega released closers Jp. Never bothered, because to create an acc you need to solve a timed jp text captcha. And you'll have to do it every time when you want to login into sega's site
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>tfw playing old version Dofus
Comfy
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Krosmaga was (fucking finally) updated and now we have God personalization. You now will get emotes and fancy stuff for your God with new achievements... but all of them ignore your previously awarded progress, meaning you have to start all over again for the most difficult of them. Jesus Christ.

Also, the goddamn gold pack for reaching rank 20 is bugged. I'm rank 27 and I didn't get it. orz

But yeah, FUCK celestial gobballs. Good fucking riddance, that exploit was so fucking dumb. Also, YEAH, FUCK Amalia***, and Joris is finally trash.
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>>166762903
NIPPLES
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>mfw this could've been a lobby mmo, its a mobile game
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3qcgEa2ldE
>this could've been a coop tactical game when each player controls a squad in a territory war
>its a mobile game
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My PC is ass, so how is Diablo 3 on PS4? Does it work semi well on controller?
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>>166763215
>Nobody will ever make another game like Ace of Spades's early beta
>mfw WW1 experience with block based terrain you could shape however
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>>166762903
>Trash
>forces opponents to use reserve if they want to cast 8 costs
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>>166763337
terrible
no
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Anyone actually interested in making a wakfu general? or maybe an ankama general? I actually wanna do it but not sure if there will be enough anons
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>>166764585
It'll probably die in a few hours
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>>166764957
we could try again i mean THERE WILL BE A SERVER MERGE! what can get more old players get back on the game better
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>>166765042
Shitposters aside, there are probably less than 10 people who play wakfu here.

It won't last long.
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>>166765042
It depends on if you have a ton of people talking about it. Should make a thread about it on /co/ and /v/. When the servers come together of course.
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Ankama is full of retards
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>>166763996

What kind of punny God need 8 mana cost spells at that point? All Joris do now is slow me down one turn. 7 mana destruction arrow is still cheap.

>>166765042

There is almost always a Wakfu thread open on /co. Most of them are playing Krosmaga as well, so we can chat there about the game every now and then. I don't think it'll be possible for it to live outside of it.
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Well we could make people actually start the game i think i actually can cause im level cap...i dont really know if that can actually effect actually

>>166765476
though its generally stuff about the animu and comic cant really talk about the game there...also where is muh maskemane chapter 12
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>>166765625
>actually actually actually actually

relax
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WAKFU SEASON 3 FUCKING WHEN. Seriously, did we even got a fucking date? Is been literally a million years since the announcement.
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>>166766116
im sleepless
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>>166766310
Seven episodes finished production, so probably summer
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>>166765396
ankamas fanbase is full of retards
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>Got a Rev Online beta invite
>Log in
>See nothing but Brazilians spamming in world chat
>Log out
You guys weren't kidding that game is already dead
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>>166765476
>/co/
>going to that shithole ever

Not worth it.
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>>166769795
It feels like a worse, more wow-like, version of BnS imo.
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>>166772363
God I wish B&S endgame was fun

Or the chat limit was better
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>tfw mmos are a dying genre
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>>166777349
What's gonna replace MMOs?
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>>166779821
ASSFAGGOTS
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>>166726678
>ark
play with me? i wanted to host a server but i have no friends lol, also i havent played in a year so i wanna see all the new shit
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>>166777349
MMOs require too much time nowadays. The people who play mmos are all older and barely have time to catch up so they move to other games which require less time investment.
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>>166777349
People like MOBAs/shooters since you don't exactly need to grind. Gameplay can be fucking stale for those games but that beats grinding or playing the market for some.
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>say hi when I join a group
>nobody else says anything
>even in revo where the game hasn't even released yet
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I play mostly at SEA servers and most of the stuff I played with are still alive and kicking today. Have you guys ever wondered that maybe its because you westerners are just that demanding for something as simple as mmorpgs?
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>>166789919
there's nothing simple about MMOs by design you stupid kiwi
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>>166789919
just because gooks are able to be satisfied mindlessly grinding for 20 hours a day doesn't mean westerners are "demanding" for asking for an actual experience
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>>166789919
SEA stuff, like MapleSEA, is a shadow of it's old self.

>Cassieopia to Izar aren't as alive anymore
>Aquila is no longer the server with all channels full or near full

Besides, indos can be an asspain to deal with with their shit tier net. Flips never fucking shut up.
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>>166774374
i tried getting into it recently, got into a clan and everything. most of my time was spent doing mindless daily quests for money to upgrade my gear, and the clan (that i randomly got invited to truth be told) is just another clique of people with maxed out gear that i'd be nowhere near to without months of time investment.
i actually went back to tera and in one day i've had more fun than two weeks of blades n' shit.
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>>166794358
indos and pinoys are always a cancer wherever and whatever game. using their monkey tier language is disgusting
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>every single MMO that I've taken an interest in within the last 5 years have been underwhelming with it's western release
>tfw my last bastion of hope is Lost Ark
will it happen lads? will I reach the promised land? will this game even get released?
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>>166798483
No. Do yourself a favor and tank your expectations.

That way if it's shit you won't despair further. And if it isn't you'll be happily surprised.
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>>166798483

Just play Wakfu anon. Then watch the series. You'll thank me, I promise.
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>Tera doesn't have stamina or charms anymore

Well alright

>Can't even throw down the campfires for cosmetic effect
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>>166801291
Stamina was a shit system and you know it.
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>>166801291
Glad I dropped that shit years ago.
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>>166802045
Stamina was, and RNG charms were too

If they were crafted or something and the TERA crafting system didn't suck ass those coulda been cool

But why remove the ability to drop the fires altogether?
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How do we fix crafting in MMOs where the finished product costs less than the actual materials?
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>>166804618
stop making the product and start selling the mats then???
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>>166804714
That's not what I asked, you stupid shit.
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>>166804618
You will forever have surplus due to essentially doing those dungeons when you have nothing better to do, even after you get your gear.
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>>166804618
Gear decays over time, dungeons produce materials rather than finished goods, crafting skill is increased through methods other than grinding recipes over and over
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>>166804618
Why would materials be worth more than finished goods?

>People will pay for the skill points/levels and the item is secondary
>The finished item isn't useful
>The materials are rare
>The ability to craft the item is common/easy

So how can you reverse these?
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What hope do we have for 2017, MMOs?
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>>166806062
no hope for the dead ;_;
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>>166806273
There's no rest for the angry dead.
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>>166806035
Atlantica online has a way to make finished goods cost more than the materials.
They use a 'workload' system. What it does it that every crafted items has a certain workload. You have to fill it up by grinding.

For example, a high level jewel has 30m workload. An average fight will give 100k workload. It would take a while to get 30m to craft the item.
Now people with money are willing to spend more to buy the finished goods because grinding that long is pretty boring.
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Ok this is a first time I've stumbled upon this thread and I see that Wakfu has some kind of meme status here, but I've recently started to play it again and I'm wondering if someone here wants to play together?
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>>166808864
Maybe if everyone isn't already multi-boxxing, I might consider it.
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>>166801291
wait really? how do you regen mp and shit now?
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>>166808864
What nation are you in?
Also any guild I can join in wakfu? Doesn't have to be /vg/.
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>>166808895
Im currenly playing with my friend and we both are using heroes system to have a full group (3+3) but it seems that he has less and less free time to play and might even drop the game eventually. So i wouldn't mind finding more people to play with when my friend is unavailable. At the moment we are playing on Remington and have a shitty guild with almost no bonuses
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>>166809063
We are allied with Amakna, also all our chars are above lvl 100+ and I don't think i want to create another char cause i have 5 of them already. Although I guess I might consider creating it if there is already a group of active low level players.
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>>166703145
PSO2
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>>166808864
I stopped playing. They're trying to screw f2p players.
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>>166809576
how?
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>>166808864
Is it still a grindfest? I tried a little back then but the questline is dull as fuck.
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>>166811012
They're limiting the tokens you get. F2p players already get less tokens compared to p2p players and now they're making it a daily/weekly reward. Usually f2p players can just grind the dungeons for more tokens but they're stopping that. They also increased the prices for the vending machines. F2p players needs 4 weeks minimum to buy one item whereas p2p players only need 2.
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>>166811205
There's nothing wrong with having a subscription based game.

All the best games over the years have been subscription based: WoW, DAoC, both EQs, AC and many others.

Subscription model is the best both for the health of the community (as little shits can't afford the subscription) and the game (as it's a reliable source of money for the devs that doesn't require them to go full jew on their shit.)

Hell, with a subscription you could even run a cash shop for cosmetics and double dip. You know your players have some money, at least.
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>>166811201
Well it is grindy, yes. But I enjoy the gameplay so even if i have to run the same dungeon 40 times to drop 1 item i still enjoy the process. Questlines are not very tedious at later parts of the game especially with guides
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>>166811756
it is not the early 2000s anymore. Subscription where necessary before because no one had come up with the F2P-model with cosmetics/bonuses and stuff and money was needed to keep servers running all the time, but it isnt like today, its cheaper today to have servers and developers have figured out new business models.

Subscription today not wrong but requiring it for you to not be totally limited in gameplay is wrong. Subscription should give you extra nice stuff, not releasing you from limitations.

And one of the most succefull F2P games today (Dota 2) only have cosmetics and compendiums as their income.
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>>166811756
I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm saying they're fucking f2p players in favor of p2p players. I'm fine with p2p players having an advantage. It's fine if they have to grind less. But the change they want will LIMIT players.

The last update they removed keys from dungeons. The reason was that they didn't want players spending too much time farming keys to do dungeons.
That makes sense.

Now the upcoming update they said they don't want players farming dungeons because there was no more keys to limit them. They're going backwards.
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Anyone know if they've fixed the issues with the Diablo 3 64bit client?
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>>166812165
>Now the upcoming update they said they don't want players farming dungeons because there was no more keys to limit them.
Source? Nothing on the website did they implement this on beta server or something?
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>>166815056
It's on the beta servers.
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About wakfu anyone in remington can feel free to join zodiac clan :^)
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>>166815117
Yeah i found forum posts:

Important Notes about 1.51:

1. Bosses will no longer drop dungeon tokens, instead, you'll get them from daily quests.

2. Frags bought from dungeon token machines, will no longer be linked.

3. You can trade in your linked frags for unlinked ones.

Well i don't really like those changes but aren't those appeal to f2p players more since they will now get the same amount of tokens as p2p players? Honestly 2x amount of tokens was the only thing worth subscribing for before u hit the endgame content that is exclusiv to p2p players only (unless they changed that?) Now i will probably only pay for heroes but not for premium.

Also I literally just created a linked relic a couple of days ago, what a shame. A couple of millions down the drain
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>tfw rolled a rogue for first char in wakfu
I made it to 80+ and it just feels so underwhelming with how shitty range is.
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>>166815435
rogues are literally 1 of the strongest lategame you are probably playing it wrong watch some videos and look up some guides also items matter a lot
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>>166815432
This. Not worth buying boosters now that they're removing x2 token drop.
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>>166815435
After a certain level (like 100-120) it will be easy to get at least +2 range on your gear and u also can get another +1 as you major stat point at level 125
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>>166815432
>they will now get the same amount of tokens as p2p players
No. P2P players will always get the full amount of tokens while f2p will always get half of that.
Do the modulux quest, you're supposed to get 10 coins if you're a p2p players but you only get 5 even though the quest reward says 10.
The only exception is the Abandoned Workshop.
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>>166815464
>>166815542
Is fire rogue worth pushing for? Cause after digging around people kept saying air earth is the way to go but those threads are like 2015 at the most recent.

I feel like playing a qt eni now instead
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>>166815563
Here's proof.
http://forum.wakfu.com/en/8-general-discussion/211376-quest-bug-feature-boosted
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>>166815650
Well im the returning guy >>166808864 so i'm still a bit oblivious about the current meta-game. After fucking around with my lvl170 earth-air rogue a little bit, i think that earth-air has no synergy what so ever at this point and I'd probably just go for earth-fire, using fire only for a firewall and no bombs. But thats only because i never actually tried bombs and i don't know how strong they are. Also with this new spell-deck system i just don't have enough slots to use all my favorite earth spells, have all my utility spells and then also have bombs on top of that
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>>166815650
well what rogues generally do is that put fire bombs around and thewy get buffed like crazy when mobs walk on them then they just pew pew out every mob i know a rogue that can destroy every mob alone in a room of a meta dungeon
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>had a dream that Harle was in a fighting game and was OP as fuck
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>>166806062
I'm looking forward to MU legend, next beta is sometime late Feb. I really have a thing for ARPG's, but I burnt out on the dark fantasy of Diablo back with D2, so I'm always looking for something more interesting.

Other than that, the standard MMO climate looks bleak for me, but I already have the games to play for the foreseeable future.
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>>166812104
the moment you mentioned dota 2 your arguments went the fuck off the window
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>>166815435
if you play rogue exclusively in range then you clearly playing it wrong
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>>166818290
he's right though
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>>166815650
>>166815913
>>166816256
the only worthwhile build for rogue is earth air, fire is only bomb but you dont need to specifically go for fire tree. hell, bomb's firewall dmg is so minicule, ppl only make it for the buff it gives
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>>166818290
>it's not f2p and does not offer only outfits to make your chars look different
Also forgot the little things that gives you items aswell.
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>>166818530
yeah thats exactly it but the buff is too good to skip
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Anyone here playing the RoM server?
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>>166820282
It's ded.
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This game is somehow shit
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>>166820408
The UI looks like it's from a browser game.
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>>166820408
>don't get off the starting island yet
>don't get wings yet
> in a beta
THIS GAME IS SHIT AND IN TESTING BUT IM CALL IT SHIT.
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>>166820978
Just like how RevO is shit.
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>>166820978
I am on 25 lv right now
I don't like main quests desu
they are literally just dialouges
I choose this pic because of loli ass
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>>166821112
Why are you not doing the dungeon yet? It unlocks at 20.
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Any newly released MMOs or beta stage MMOs worth looking into right now?
I need my fix man.
I tried getting back into BDO or B&S but I just can't.
>>
Diablo question:

I'm playing as a crusader invoker build, and I am tough enough to survive T13 but I can't kill anything.

What am I doing wrong? Do I just need more paragon levels?
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>>166825259
Tbqh with you famalam, if you are having problems like that then:

A) You are doing something wrong, using wrong skills at wrong time.

B) Set is shit, get another one.
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>tfw like Elsword
>it's shit
fuggg
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>>166678143

Daily reminder from Trion to players.
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So, krosmaga off. tourney is live on twitch.
>581 viewers
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>>166828915

Is there any giveaway?
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>>166825259
>crusader can survive t13

how pls

Also I find most classes in D3 are fucking weak as shit. The highest torment I can comfortably solo is T7 with my wizard and thats mainly just because of the firebird set bonus so i can just set all enemies to burn for 3000% weapon damage till death and then spam them with disintergrate.
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>>166829275
invoker set with all the right items has absolutely ridiculous survivability.
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>>166829059
If I knew french, I would say
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>>166829059
Apparently, yes. SInce the chat goes crazy sometimes and spams a single word
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Who want a krosmaga gift code?
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>guild window
>that feel
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>>166833461
Wants*
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>>166833560
Oh, actually, nevermind, you have to choose between the gift codes, you can't claim all.
Got two silver packs though.
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>>166833510
>no AA
>>
>started D3 recently on Hard
>can just sit there and let the enemy hit me
Does it get better?
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>>166833928
>Hard
Come on.
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>>166834313
I was put off from starting on expert since it said I should have legendary items with gems socketed on them
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I wish MMOs were fun again.
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>>166835904
I wish you'd remember to give me a reach around.
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>>166836079

Sorry but i'm not gay
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How bad is Aura Kingdom? Is there any form of coop play needed where I can be a good healslut or is everything just solo-able?

I'm desperate.
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>>166837145
Main game is jewy as fuck but there's a private server called aura kingdom to that's both further along in content and lets you buy cash shop stuff with in game money. No idea how it's doing currently as I haven't checked it out in like a year but that would be your best bet. Did try it again the other week actually but it kept crashing on startup for me.
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>>166837145

Play Wakfu instead. Pro-tip: never EVER play anything X-Legends. Even more if they are with Aeria.
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>>166833461
>>166833823

How are you getting those? I really want packs, I love the game.
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Any decent enough game released in the past year worth putting some time into?
Bored of my current options.

BDO was good for about 2 months on release, can't get myself to get back into it
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>>166839116
No.
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>>166829275
I could comfortably do t10 with the free UE dh set from one of the last few seasons and a couple other items, focus/restraint probably being the big ones. It wasn't super fast but it wasn't awful.
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>>166833928
Leveling is more or less like that. You can crank up the difficulty while leveling if you really want but it's not really worth it. Shit will kick your teeth in while you're pushing higher torments/greater rifts
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>within 5 level 60 TERA quests for the new continent you're sifting through poop
>you then feed the poop to sick people as a 'cure'
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why cant a game company just make a mmo where your just a average adventurer doing mission with no deep story happening. Like shit just make good fights, crafting and trading and you got a good game.
games where you end up becoming super powefull just seems fucking dumb.
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>>166839457
I don't remember that, was that a side quest?
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>>166839648
No, it's part of the leadup to getting on the Airship.

>soldiers writhing on the ground
>oh no they drank too many potions!
>ask apothecary
>grass nearby can cure this
>oh no the cows ate all the grass
>how can we cure these guys now?
>lol poop
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>>166833840
Are you in the Yotsubas?
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I just don't know what to play anymore, or if I even want to.
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>>166839932
No, I never was.

>>166840613
Today I did two missions in GE2RB, played some FOTM game from /hgg2g/ and Pixel Dungeon while shitting.
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>>166840613
play necrodancer
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Any good MMORPG on Android? Sort of just want to grind in bed.
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>>166842353
>just want to grind in bed.
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>>166842531

pls recommend me some MMO pls. I need something to recapture just the excitement of having an MMORPG to look forward to whilst installing. Played GW2, SWTOR, WoW, FFXIV and so many that i can't list.
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Is anyone here playing Ragnarok Online on the Rise of Midgard server? After 4 or so years I think they've stumbled upon the ratio for the perfect server.
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>>166842832
Did you enjoy those games you listed?
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>>166844131
What hat do you get for shilling here?
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>>166842832
>recommend me an MMO btw I played every massively popular MMO if that helps

lmao
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are huppermages any good?
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>>166842832
play granblue
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>>166844287
I just want to play with people from here, because the regular pop on the server are all 10 years old and soloing is crushing my soul.
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>>166844362

No idea. Personally I think they are pretty boring since 4/5 of their skills are literally copy-pasted from other classes.
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Let's compile a list of things that killed the MMO genre:

>MOBA
>mobile games
>alpha/beta buy-ins
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>>166844847
Braindead difficulty catering to the casual babies

>facerolling everything in the first >10 hours of gameplay
>having to play for >10 hours before actually getting to the decent part of the game
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>>166844847
the expectations that games would, on release, match other games that had multiple years of polish
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>>166844847
It was mainly the change in culture. Oldschool nerds typically banded together with each-other because they sure as fuck weren't making social connections with anyone else.

Modern day nerds tend to have severe anxiety when it comes to interacting with other players.

So player based economies that'd rely on talking is out.

Partying for experience is out.

Any job\class that requires teamwork is out.

Any game content that requires teamwork\practice beyond intuition is out.

Give it 20 years or so and the next batch of kids will probably be quite different, that's what'll shape the future of MMO's or games in general.
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>>166845330
Is this your first time doing that questline in Tera?
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>>166845330
>filename
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>>166845372
>Modern day nerds tend to have severe anxiety when it comes to interacting with other players.

It's also that modern MMOs consist of nobody talking, even in a group or guild. It fucking drives me mad when I join one of the "largest" guilds on a server with 100+ people, and yet it's silent as a morgue. Meanwhile the secret cliques in the guild are all on their special private discord/TS channels talking shit about everyone else.
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I miss my old days in Trickster where whenever some guildmate log in, everyone would just autistically say "wb".
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>>166846769
>Trickster
That was the furry game right?
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Angels Online was such a shitty game but I had fun with it. I still remember when I joined one of the top guilds, they even had tryouts, like try to beat a boss with some of their guild members and if they think you're useful, then you're in.
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>>166846801
Most of them were just ear headbands and tail desu.
And then there's pic related.
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>>166847167
>just ear headbands and tail desu.
So, a furry.
k
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>>166846769
I always wanted to play that, since I was a fan of RO. Tried playing it a few years ago on a private server and it was horrible.

There were tons of people online, but they were all bots in town drilling. I saw very few people just out and about leveling. On a minor note as well the fact that you couldn't zoom in the camera killed me, everything was so small.

Really regret not playing it during its heydey.
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>>166845481
Yes
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>>166847421
Welp, I won't spoil anything for you then. Have fun
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>>166847406
>they were all bots in town drilling
No, they're using auto-drill pets (Driller boy/girl). It's cash shop stuff.

It still killed most part of tm leveling anyway.
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>>166846314
Yeah, I had the same problem. I'm not into roleplaying at all but at least if you join a game like LOTRO with a large RP community they tend to be more social.

I don't think there's a modern equivalent game, but maybe something will be released that'll force people to band together again.
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>>166845372
>Modern day nerds tend to have severe anxiety when it comes to interacting with other players.

I don't know if this is the symptom or the root in this case. Nerds have always been socially awkward, even people you play D&D with would give you a 'y-you too' in the hallways at school sometimes. The difference is that nowadays the MMOs aren't tailored to them anymore, they're tailored to literally everyone else, so now that there's no reason to socially interact they don't.

Go to a game like any populated Vanilla WoW server and there's plenty of talking and discussion among groups because you need to. In nuWoW there's nobody talking because you can have four people on autorun and still finish a 5 person dungeon.
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>>166844362
they are likely the worst atm
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Literally no one talking about world building MMO's anyfuckingwhere. Next general should be Wakfu again. It is known.
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>>166848006
no
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>>166848006
wakfuck off
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>>166847768
You're right, the game itself needs to meet the gamer in the middle but I must say I think it's worse nowadays.

I can recall a time when striking up conversation with somebody in a dungeon was perfectly normal, they might respond to you really strangely but usually they'd respond.

You know how often I'll say hello to a stranger and they'll just disconnect from the game? I can only imagine the kind of panic attack I sent the poor fucker into by acknowledging his existence.
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>>166848006
There's the one game made by the old Ultima Online guy and another Korean\Japanese MMO where you're a magical girl and make your own town.

Both look pretty bad to be honest. Wakfu was cool but more often than not letting the player take care of economy\world building is usually an excuse for the devs to be lazy.
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>>166848149
>I can only imagine the kind of panic attack I sent the poor fucker into by acknowledging his existence.
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>>166848057

yes

>>166848148

wakfuk owns. Part 2 fucking when?

>>166848341

Worldbuilding is for the autistic minecraft crowd. Nothing but trash.
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>>166848006
Nobody cared about the edition thing in the OP.
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>>166848149
So you're one of those people that try to talk to me when I'm standing in line at the grocery store.

Leave me alone.
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For those of you scattered among older less populated games. Have you ever tried all jumping into the same game? There are quite a few dated MMOs that look fun but would be worthless to play with such a small population, if everyone from these threads joined at once though we could at least enjoy it for a few months together.
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In your opinion, what is the best current MMO?
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>>166848714

Everyone is playing Wakfu anon. Come and join.
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>>166848714
>implying we can ever come to an agreement which game to play
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>>166848678
If we could buy twice as much stuff for half the price together I'd talk your fucking ear off, yeah.
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>>166848776
WoW
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If almost every interaction with another player didn't end in them sending me a friend request I'd talk to people in games more often.
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are the wildstar guilds still active?
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>>166849298
Is Wildstar still active? I can't imagine they'd still be trying to milk the last vestiges of life from that stone.
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>>166849298
if there was ever a vg guild, it's long since died
my guild's looking for new people right now, though
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>>166849843
It feels weird to see something that was hyped for quite a bit as a WoW killer to be such a zombie now.

>>166850920
eh, I'm EU though.
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>>166848006
Look up Ashes of Creation mate. Also the edition does not really matter. I can remove it next time I make the thread to not trigger ya so much.
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>>166839457
What class are you playing mate? I can maybe tank for ya later if you need someone to do que up with. Also have to be MT.
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>>166853429
Nah I'm on Celestial Hills, thanks though.
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>>166854348
>playing on the ERP server
Degenerate. But really now that open world pvp is dead no reason to not play on MT now.
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>>166854821
Well I'm an RPfag, as unlikely as it is to find people here now. And having been around both for a good portion of my life the RPfags are usually more tolerable than PvPtards.

And the best reason is that Lake of Tears is clearly the better name for a PvP server by far.
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>>166855648
Well there is no PVP now that you can't open world pvp until you hit 65 and can only fight other level 65s.
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Why are dumb barbarians always the best?
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>>166838421
They do giveaways in chat during the tourney. You need to post a word they post there and if you are chosen, you can choose from three rewards.
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Need a new MMO

>tried legion
quit because of artifact power grind and legendary RNG

>tried elder scrolls online
quit because I didn't want to grind champion points endlessly just to have a chance

>tried black desert
quit because of end game level grind and the fucking ridiculous gear RNG

>tried guild wars 2
actually really enjoyed it but i've already beaten everything that interests me and am waiting for new content

Anything else on the market worth looking at?

I think Crowfall is the only upcoming game that might interest me but who knows with that crowdfunded shit
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>>166860103
B&S
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Whatever happened to Black Sheep Project? Game looked nice. Was it cancelled?

What about Ghost & Goblins online?

I saw a lot of nice experimental MMO's years ago on that China fest. Including shmups and weird team based shooters ala Frozen Synapse. Are all of them cancelled these days? Last chink fest I saw everything was just vanilla MMO.
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>>166860514
>Black Sheep Project
renamed to Askers Online. It got shut down
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>>166860514
Either became mobile, no news, or in Peria's case, were being remade.
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>>166860103
Tera online.
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>Void still eons behind in content
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>>166844847
> a shift from makin the game about people wanting to work together to git gud and acomplish a goal to people wanting everything now for little to no effort.

>>166854821
>>166855857
>But really now that open world pvp is dead
This makes me sad
When tera first came out i used to run with this priest i met and ust kill anything near us while leveling, endid up making like 2 more friends thanks to that but real life got in the way for all of us and we stopped playing
I really wish i could talk to the priest again shame s/he changed names at least 3 times and i think stopped playing altogether
>they actually banned people for killing at lumbertown when gunners were released
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>>166735495
>phaeris with remington
Noooo! Playing on both servers is how I manage to play every interesting class without spending crazy amounts of money on extra character slots. Now I will eventually have to chose a server to keep and discard the other one.
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what are good classes in wakfu?
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>>166861916
The shitty elves.
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>>166861971
there are a lot of knife ears, you gotta be more specific
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>>166862094
The one with the bow.
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I cant do it
I cant play Krosmaga anymore, this rng shit is too much, and the whole p2w shit, its too much.
>rng for ecaflip rewards
>rng for roulette
>rng for getting cards from packs
>rng for drawing better cards than your opponent
>rng for choosing the right dofus to attack
>matchmaking is utter shit, throwing people who have starter decks against almost full theme decks
>training infinites is shit, but if you pay if becomes leagues easier
>only way to beat rng is to throw enough money at the game that the rng wont matter anymore
Fuck card games.
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>>166862154
I am ABSOLUTELY disgusted by how broken overpowered ranger classes are in most MMORPGS I have played.

Fucking cancer kill yourselves.
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>>166862154
Which race is the best tanks? Was thinking scarier.
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>>166863018
>sacs
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>>166860850
Priest or Mystic?

I remember it being pretty much
>Mystics to make everyone shit bricks with double crit rate

and

>Priests to carry retards with OP as fuck healing
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>>166863283
Mystic for the sweet double crit rate. Also go on /terag/ and ask for a buddy up code.MT is the best.Also try to get into TFT. They will help you out with stuff. But don't stay on /terag/ for too long. That place is dirty.
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>>166863018
The shield mage dudes
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Why is Wakfuck so fun___?
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Anyone on Shards Online? I'm curious as to how it stands up in comparison to Ultima Online.
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>>166864137
And fucking Skittles!
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>>166864727
>on CH
>is a elin
I will burn you all in holy fire one day.
Make
Arun
Great
Again
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>>166865219
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>>166866297
>all that fucking pink hair
I have eye cancer now
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>>166866451
I think of all the leveling I've done from 40 something to 62 now, I haven't seen an Amani yet. Two Barakas in one group, but no Amani.
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>DPS classes have the most fun abilities but least chance of getting groups

why does Wildstar have to be dead those were the only good healers fuck
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Guys, is Firefall any good? I saw a trailer for it and it looks pretty fun.
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>>166871060
playing wildstar?
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>>166864137
>Also go on /terag/ and ask for a buddy up code.
Get a leveling buddy period.
Solo Mystic leveling is the worst hell.
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>>166871060

Don't worry Primal Matrix will spark it back to life. There's been a slow trickle of new/returning people.
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>>166872312
>new stat: hope
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>>166872312
Give it up. WildStar is dead
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>>166871495
no, it's terrible, and the population is dead

>>166872714
wildstar could have been something, especially with how good housing is

>>166871763
just do dungeons
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>>166872714

More like undead. Seriously, that game should have been officially shut down months ago but I don't know what NCSoft still sees in that game to keep it around.
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So apparently, Trion now gives a 30 days patron status if you didn't play Rift for a couple of months. Is it worth returning?
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>>166874379
No. Rift is shit
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>>166874751

So is your favorite game but you still play that for god knows whatever reason
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>>166874379
Did you like Rift before? Do you wanna play more of it?

If so, yeah go nuts.
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>>166874751
>>166875196

It's shit now? I left the game right after it went f2p but I really liked it up to then. I mistakenly played TESO instead and that game not only never lived up to my expectations it went downhill with One Tamriel.
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>>166875515
What the fuck is One Tamriel?

I only played Rift after it went F2P so I can't really give you any ideas. It seemed like it was alright but I can't tell you what changed.
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They still spawn this here? I wonder if you can still do those quests, if you started the chain, or if it's just set dressing now.
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>heal or something
>suck like you need to pay for crack and it's cold outside
>someone says you're doing a good job

what do you even say to that
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PLAY WURM ONLINE
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>>166886387
no
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>>166881938

na boi
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just got Murasame on paragon, also Venus is also coming
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in Diablo 3 the monk Inna set gives you dmg per mystic ally. do you lose the boost if an ally dies? would it then be worth using enforcer?
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>>166889231
>still playing AK
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PLAY WAKFU AGAIN
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>>166890716
but what class?
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>>166889470
Yes. Though I've never seen a minion die even without enforcer, they're made of some fucking tough shit already.
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>>166874128
They must be getting something good out of it because they normally kill everything intresting then squat their lawyers on it so no one else can ever revive it.

>CoH
>Auto Assault
>Tabula Rasa
>Exteel
>Probably more I forget

I have made myself sad now.
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>>166891385
Masqueraider, because JUST DO IT FAGGOT!
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>>166825259
>>166829275

I've made a diablo 3 hardcore seasonal character, wizard

torment 10 is easy, but torment 13 is just hard. When I step out of archon mode for that tiny amount of time I watch my health bounce a little and it makes me scared, but I can hang.

But damage? I just can't see how I can work in another major damage multiplier without massive amounts of risk of death. Maybe I just get spoiled exploding a level 50 Grift in 3 minutes that when I go to torment 13 I have too high of expectations. My damage is tolerable, just not great, and all I can do is inch towards more and better rolled ancients.
>>
Need some good fan-servicey MMOs
Maybe with a decent ERP scene too
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>>166893234
>Tabula Rasa
I remember the spark of hype I got for that game after I'd given up on Huxley ever coming out.
Then I found out it was tab target with guns and the hype dissipated instantly.
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>>166893470
TERA
BnS
Queen's/Scarlet Blade
Vindictus
GW2 if you're a furfag
Kritika
>>
will Kingdom under Fire 2 ever come out for NA/EU? I played the asian version for a bit.
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>>166876975
one tamriel was the thing they did in testo to make every zone scale so you could go wherever you felt like at whatever level
that was my understanding, at least, i haven't touched the game since beta
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>>166750000
Redpill me on Entropia Universe
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>>166894601
I remember that shit. I don't think it'll ever come though.

Pretty cool dynasty warrior mechanic but holy shit it's fucking deserted. It's lobby based and I saw at most 2 other players in town. It's like they never bother to advertise their game or something. I only found out about it when looking through what games nvidia support and saw an interesting name.
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>>166847671
PRESS F
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>>166897115
last thing I saw from them was a ps4 version.
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>>166711123

Shit, was going to try it too. but I guess not.
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>>166898118
jesus christ they should've just hit the kill switch already
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>>166898168
>they
It's run by one guy who's been developing it as a labor of love since '02
I think the most people I've seen online at once was in the 40-50 range, although it seemed to average like 20 or so people.
Granted, that was a couple years ago.
>>
10
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>>166897015
>past entropia
very open ended sci fi mmo, if you weren't down to drop like 10 bucks right off the bat you would literally be doing slave labor for your first set of gear, but it's actually very social slave labor and you're basically chillin the whole time you're doing it.
>nu entropia
a lot of things have been streamlined for newbies which makes it feel a little less open ended, and they added a little bit of pay2win, but if you want to be anything at all you still have to invest real time into whatever you're doing. dropping 100 bucks in game will not guarantee you'll be a god, but you could have vehicles, fancy clothes and a furnished house right off the bat. it's an mmo with older ideals in mind that may not appeal to this new generation of people wanting instant gratification, but imo it's what an mmorpg should be. tons of things to do, tons of ways to build your character, a whole solar system to explore.
>>
Anyone played Shadowverse? How is it? How hard is it getting cards? how p2w is it? Does it punish f2p players?
Krosmaga isn't fun for me.
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>>166904102
It's really easy getting cards. There are loads of free packs for starters and you should get a few legendary-tiered cards.

Gameplay-wise, it's hardly innovative though. There are plenty of other games using the same board mechanic.

Faeria or Chronicle RS have a more unique gameplay but like all card games, it gets boring once you tried all the deck archetypes.
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>>166904879
It looks like a pain to install.
I can't find the download link. Only options are for mobile.
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>>166905224
It's on Steam
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>>166905224
What? For Shadowverse? Its literally in steam.
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>>166905274
>>166905310
I don't use steam.
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>>166905361
Okay then.
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>>166905361
'ok'
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>>166905361
>>166905310
>>166905274
>>166904879
It's not even an MMO
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>>166905774
>MOs with documented MMO aspects are also welcome here, such as games like Diablo, ARK, and Dark and Light.
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>>166905854
Name one MMO aspect.
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>>166904102
>Shadowverse
>fun
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>>166904102
It's hearthstone with anime tiddy.
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>>166905990
It has multiplayer
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>>166908534
oh great we can talk about overwatch here then
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>>166909290
I wanna fug Mercy.
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>>166909290
> talking about a game that has huge fan base and non cancer general.
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>>166909731
Let's talk about C&C renegade instead. That isn't popular nor has a general.

Anyone still plays that shit? I main sakura personally.
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>>166909805
Never heard of it so I would not know what to talk about.
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>>166909805
That's a blast from the past. Wasn't there a mod release for that recently?
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>>166910158
It's a pretty great game released way back, a first person shooter of the command and conquer series. EA naturally killed any hope of a sequel or supoort afterwards because they're completely incompetent in every sense of the word. It posses many MMO features like character costumization, open world (limited to aprox 1km2 in dimensions though, although most regions are less than 500m wide and long) gameplay and of course, multiplayer with a slightly assymetrical design.

>>166910316
Yes an expansion pack was recently released introducing new graphics and move dungeons and raids. Unfortunately it's more dead than, say, wildstar.
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>>166910374
>fps
I love playing them but I suck at them. At most I would play the tanky or support guy.
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>>166909342
Don't we all.
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>>166910757
You can play a tank alright
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>>166893470
Tera is quite fan servicey and I've had lots of luck with ERP there.
WoW is good in terms of ERP, there's tons of it. Fan service not so much though
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>>166911492
They they should just go to Tera. Everything makes you look like a slut.
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>>166909805
isn't that the one where the factions consists of burgerland, chinks, and sandniggers instead of the usual allied vs soviets?
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>>166912061
That's generals you absolute inbred.

This one is first person tiberian dawn.
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ded
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>>166911972
True. I just wish there was more ERP. And I don't really like the gameplay itself too much.
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>>166915548
Go play second life or something.
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>>166896146
You got it right, they pretty caved and made the game "more like skyrim" so people could play ESO the way they would've played a single player elder scrolls game. If you're just getting into it you'll have fun they scaled the loot as well so you'll always get something for your level.

Still annoying you have to grind PvP like crazy to get some abilities, but at least it fun to siege.
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>>166886387
What if you could make things happen by just thinking: the game
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>start a new MMO
>stress over which class to take
>read up on classes/meta/builds/etc
>try out every class to lvl 10
>already tired of the game
I can't be the only one who does this right? How do I stop doing this?
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>>166922323
>try every class to 10
fucking why
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>>166922323
> not knowing you own play style and picking the class that you know will fit that
I know I like tanking and being a unkillable meatwall so I pick that.
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>>166922515
because i'm an indecisive fuck and want to see my options before sticking to one class

>>166922656
I don't stick to a single role and depending on the game, the role/playstyle that I want might not even be available.
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>>166922995
>not playing more than one role
I think you should maybe just stick to single player games then. They let you build your character how your play style is.
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>>166923476
What did he mean with this post
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>>166923867
Stop playing MMOs and play singlerplayer rpg.
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>>166844131

If there's a hangout place, I'll join you.
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>>166893234

They probably only keep Wildstar around just so they can have character representation for their Heroes of the Storm wannabe known as Master X Master. And boy they couldn't have picked a shittier character from that game to represent it
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>>166909342
Dumb overshit player.
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>>166925213

The fuck? THAT piece of trash is the WIldstar representative? And people wonder why that game is fucking dead.

Just pick the big tits redneck redhead and be done with it. She was literally the face of the game for months. I played that stupid game to lvl cap when the game was free and never saw this literal "who?" anywhere at all.
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>>166926323
that's because you played exile. mondo 'bazurple' zax showed up a bunch for dommies
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>>166926964
>tfw I liked Zax

He was dumb FOR SCIENCE humor but it fit in with the game's tone pretty well honestly.
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dead
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>>166864137
0-4 Castanic
5-9 High Elf
Dubs Elin
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>>166934372
Enjoy your goat slut.
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>>166934421
They're all sluts.

I know it's kind of this game's thing but it really does annoy me how there isn't even a purchasable option for anything decent to wear.
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>>166934593
There's dresses and stuff you can buy.

Not everything outfit is nipple pasties and a thong.
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>>166934805
Well I mean decent armor-wise. The last class I tried was Brawler but everything was a plate chemise of some kind. An option for something bulkier like the males get would be awesome.

And aside from some dresses, there is maybe one outfit you can buy with pants, not shorts or a thong. And nothing that looks like a more generic spellcaster robe - But to be fair I haven't played a Castanic before so maybe something will surprise me.
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>>166934593
I know this may sounds strange but you can play as a male.
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>>166935332
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>>166935332

I can't remember the last time I played as a male on a MMO, and I'm nearly 30 now.
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>>166935332
A Baraka maybe. Everyone else looks like they're constipated all the time, or just rolled off the Jersey shore, or are a male (female) anyway.
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>>166935501
>Amani look like that
>>166935438
I only play males unless they make you have to play a female.
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>>166935501
>>166935332
You know what, fuck it. Let's do this lads.
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>>166936264
Alright. Never see rock men anymore. Make sure to get a buddy up code and if you're on MT try to join TFT. Just say you're from /vg/.
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>>166936626
>already logged in

Can you use a buddy up code on any new characters, or do you have to have not logged in to the account in months? Because I already fucked that up then.
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>>166937245
It just have to be under level 10.
Also if you past level 10 just remake the char. Buddy up gives you a ton of good stuff.
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>>166922323
No I suffer from the exact same issue, especially when classes aren't clearcut.

It sucks that not many games employ the 1 character = all classes style like FFXIV does because that shit is lovely as hell.
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>>166930735
More love for Mabi.
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>>166940376
Meh, I quit Mabi again and again, I was just too cool for it.
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>>166925213
>tfw a little bit hyped for MxM
when's that game getting released?
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>>166941679
No clue, I'm interested in the story mode.
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>>166943072
INNOWIN
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>>166934372
amani
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>>166935149
this is plate armor. still too slutty? no skin shows at all with this costume btw. some slightly sheer looking material but that's about it.
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10
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>>166844131
Name a place I'll come join you.
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>>166936264
>another anon using Shekelberg and variants for names
Be my friend
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>mfw my best deck is xelor, but I don't really like it
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>>166948716
I miss my Sacrier deck. Too bad they nerfed it.
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>>166944745
Better than most I've seen desu
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>>166922656
>Love being a CC monster and/or debuffer
Modern MMOs are suffering.
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>>166951803
same

>healers are moving toward providing DPS/Heals instead of heals/buffs/debuffs/etc
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i miss archeage

why did it have to be so pay2winny

i know, korea
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I joined a /vg/ guild once, stole everything in the guild bank, and then never logged into that character again.
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>hey, this looks like fun
>play and enjoy it
>quit a week or so later
>repeat forever

I hate this.
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>>166956123
this is me
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>>166956373
That's you.
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>>166956123
>>166956373


get a bf, you should enjoy games more with one
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>>166956434
gay
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I want to sniff Elins.
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Fuck off
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>>166958057
Fuck me!
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>>166955750
> there I anything to steal in the /vg/ guild in Tera
Also you can be nice now with guild banks. Can only have the too people take stuff out of it cuz people are asshats
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>>166720340
Name?
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what is /vg/ opinion on Conan Exiles?
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>>16677734
FIXED
>tfw mmos are dying in the West

Fucking memefags
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>>166961285
Never heard if it. Give me some details mate.
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>>166963489
it's the same genre as ARK survival evolved but on conan world and with a pretty cool building system.
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>Mana Boost II Meteor
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>>166955750
You're a terrible person and very likely don't deserve to live.
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>>166961540
Shitty browser/phone games don't count as MMOs. Those are only normalfag games and the truest sign of the cancer that is killing gaming as a whole.
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>>166964486
dont you know? everything is a MMO nowadays. people were calling the new simcity a MMO
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>>166964773
4chan is a text based MMO
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What is everyone grooving to right now?
https://youtu.be/vC8JY1JQ8II
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>>166965995
The end game sucks, and it's starting to show signs of being P2W.
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>>166967919
I miss the old days were you could just spam stuff all day everyday.
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>>166966387
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKu0Kfb8Aw8
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What the fuck is the TERA endgame? I just hit it but it seems weird as hell. Instead of grinding the fuck out of stuff, you instead just get everything free but only X times a day.

Does it change much once you get to the higher tier dungeons?
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>>166655264
>MMO aspects are also welcome here, such as games like Diablo
Somebody redpill me on Diablo 3.
Do I have to buy the expantion to play with other people like WoW?

What is the appeal of the game after you beat it?

Is there PVP or whatever else?
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>>166970556
>does it change much
Lol no. You could do pvp stuff before that had 3 sides pick from but they removed it for no reason.
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>>166970650
It's grindan to facilitate grindan. The appeal of the Diablo 3 endgame is mostly getting bigger numbers to fight bigger numbers with. Though because of the way gear works, it's also about unlocking new ways of playing the same character, since through grinding out sets and artifacts you can get items that change how abilities work together. But still it's all mass grinding, so if you're not a fan of how it plays it's not going to have much lasting appeal. And yeah you pretty much need the expansion to play.
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>>166971524
>And yeah you pretty much need the expansion to play.
Well that killed it for me.
Not paying $40 for a semidead game.
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>>166972950
just play POE instead
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>>166973961
Tell me about PoE.
I only wanted to play Diablo because I know you can have a zombie army. I miss necros from GW1.
Sell me on PoE.
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>>166974809
Diablo 3 did the undead minion army pretty well and very viably. They are kind of OP though since they're completely fucking invincible.

I actually forget how well zombie armies work in PoE, but I kind of remember them being shitty. It's free though so go nuts!

But if you haven't, try Diablo 2 for ALL the skeletons. I think just by volume it might still win, not sure anymore though.
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>>166930735
Holy fuck you're still alive?
BUILD WALL
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>>166977743
>>166977919
Shit game.
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>>166978504
beats maplestory, that's for sure!
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>>166978967
No it isn't.
MS has better class diversity, skills and not recolored enemies every 5 levels. Platforming feels smooth unlike LT.
Only good thing about LT is probably the music, sprite animation and maybe the quest chain.
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>>166977743
>>166977919
>thought these must be old screenshots and nobody plays them now
>1302017

top lel

makes me miss Wonderking, I got baited into playing that with /v/, it had some choice racist caricatures for quest NPCs
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>>166975412
skeletons are kind of mediocre in path purely by virtue of their AI being awful. if you spec right you can actually get like 50 skeletons at once though
zombies are better about it, but usually you use them more as a flesh wall than anything else
typically, a summoner either uses summon raging spirits or raise specter for actual damage
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>>166898118
i want to try this out, but im a shy bitch.
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>>166982719
Don't. It's a shit game.
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>>166893470
ffxiv
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>>166656670
sounds like a good mmo, you listen to your justin bieber while you play wow
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meh, I'm just gonna dump these Revelation Online CBT3 keys here.

RO395PR3D5NFYH(4)S
RO395PR32Q3K(3)S11
RO395PR3IB99(3)TMN

RO395PR3K22(1)QFA8
RO395PR3EYVLL(W)AQ
RO395PR3WP(6)1QQLZ
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>>166983294
I got one.
Thanks.
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I just redownloaded The Secret World a few days ago and I have been enjoying it, surprisingly. I'm also surprised at how many players are here, seems like more then 2-3 years ago last time I played.

Did they update the game or combine servers or something?
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>>166983294
cool but that would have been best dumped into the revelation gener-
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>>166961214
Google Images.
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>>166983752
I think they changed the instance thingy they did to make it seem more deserted to a larger pop so it doesn't seem as dead anymore. Haven't been on in a while but if you joined one of the big cross server/faction chats like sanctuary it always seemed populated.
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>>166986920

Yeah but it is fun to get to endgame.

I'm currently grinding out a hammer/blades tank build. Playing a tank build so it's easy to get into dungeons.

I do have one more question- are those 5 dungeons all there? Polaris to Hell Raised?
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>>166983294
Got RO395PR3WP61QQLZ
Thanks mate.
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>>166988162
Nah, there's a handful more. Maybe 11 in total? Those are the only five that have leveling difficulties, though, the rest are at cap.
I mean, as much as something in TSW can be at cap.
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>>166991165

How do you unlock them? Or do they have a separate name/group finder thing I'm not looking for?
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>>166992014
They're called elites, for the entry level, then nightmare is like heroics. I don't remember how the group finder works
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>>166983294
>RO395PR3EYVLL(W)AQ
just used the code
is this game fun?
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>>166990889
>wow it's fucking nothing: the teaser
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>>166992357
Just try it out ya dummy.
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>>166992085

Hey thanks, really appreciate it.
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>>166992607
I hope its worth it
where is the server located?
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So I've heard good things about pic related. Apparently it has some really awesome character creation. Anyone hear play it? Think it's any good?
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>>166993330
haha
rip
villains was better
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hump
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>mfw no mmos with corruption
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>>166996807
http://www.ashesofcreation.com
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>>166996807
Did you added these red things around her in paint?
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>>166996807
Have you actually played an MMO before? It's a major plot point in like every one since it's such an easy way to set someone up as bad but possibly sympathetic, yet unable to be reasoned with.

Approximately 100% of Wildstar's story is about corruption. TERA too. A lot of WoW's major plot points are about it.
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>>166998650
>A lot of WoW's major plot points are about it.
it's the major plot point of every single fucking blizz game.
>Diablo
>Starcraft (Kerrigan)
>Warcraft (Arthas and every single fucking orc)
they literally don't know how to write anything else
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>>166998650
Properly speaking, only strain is about corruption. The primals are separate, osun are mostly separate, SPACE PIRATES are separate
i guess robutts are corruption via glitches, along with squirgs, and ssssort of avatus?
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help what do I play?
I just want to be a thicc loli
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>>166998650
Most people don't do the story for Tera now so they don't know anything about argons or the last bit with that elin.
>>166999990
Better tap into your innermost slider-fu.
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>>166898837
Well that's kind of sad, how's the actual game?
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>>167001706
Tera's story was cool but they dropped the ball on it hard. A dream land filled with gods and the metal nightmares from beyond the dream invade it.
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I might actually like this game
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>>167002836

Can I "play" with your loli, then?
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>>167002925
is there anyway to show fps?
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>>167003429

That doesn't answer my question...

Also the game shows your FPS in the top left by default
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>>167002836
Hurry up and get to 30 for ya wings.
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>Feel like playing Vindictus
>Tons of new stuff added since I stopped playing a year ago
>About to download client
>Remember I main Lynn
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>>167004545
gotta make perfect waifu first
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>>167005732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-mFilOIAyg

>tfw the gooks went all out trying to promote this class
>tfw she died just like the class
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They could get some athletchick to pose instead, where are these toned legs and abs.

>mfw
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>>166998650
>>166996807
FFXIV has unreversable corruption that you are conveniently immune against.
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Am I allowed to talk about my MMO here if our general is cancer?
/xivg/
I just want to talk about things - even people who are playing other MMO - that this game does or does not have..
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>>167008431
You are safe here my friend.
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>>167008431
No.
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>>167008431
Post butt.
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>>167008480
Fun.

I suppose a topic I've been wondering about is how does hour MMO deal with new players just starting the game and being behind months in story content?

I ask because Stormblood - FF14's second expansion- will be here in less than 6 months and the topic of new players being far behind the players who are just biding their time.
FF14's 2.0 - 2.5 (A Realm Reborn to the beginning of the first expansion) is known for being a slow slog and players are left to doing out-dated content a lot of the time with people who don't much care to teach them mechanics, concepts, or helpful tips to play their classes.

How have your MMO's dealt with this and were they succesful in doing so?
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how fucking dead is this game if you can't even queue for dungeons
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>>167009208
Even in a not dead game I think it's pretty lucky if you actually get into a group for a tutorial dungeon desu
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>>167009208
dungeons are grouped for in chat channels, not group finder
>>
Anyone tried Civilisation mmo?
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>>167009208
This is why most Tera classes can solo low level dungeons, yet people bitch about muh group content.
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>>167009180
XIV is actually pretty unique (from the MMOs I've played) in that the story is 100% and absolutely mandatory. I can't think of another game that locks dungeons, zones, abilities and even classes behind that kind of thing.

This makes the question hard since no other game really has the same issue (maybe SWTOR? But I haven't played nearly as far in it). In pretty much every other game you're free to dick around as much as you want instead and catch up to the story later. I cannot tell you how often this has stopped me from deciding to level up a new character because fuck me I'm not doing that entire garbage fire again.

So I guess the way they've done it is by not having that problem in the first place. The way XIV handles the story has a lot of problems but I'm not sure how you'd fix it without changing it entirely. I don't know if the 'story skip' potion they plan on is the best way but it's certainly the jewiest. WoW has handled the catch up problem by giving people a free level boost with the new expansions which I still don't think is the best way but it is the most casual.

I can say that Revelation has a quest line that locks features behind it, but it's separate from the main questline and more of a checklist of level requirements, which I think works better.
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>>167005732
They really gotta do something about Lynn, every other character that needed an overhaul has got it, but they left her in the dust.

Her damage is the lowest in the game, I've seen goldbuyers with a +15 glaive regularly get outdeepsed by someone with a +13 and above average gear.
I don't know how it is now, but back when I played Lynn I was always having trouble generating SP for her, even with the greater cat statue artifact. She's got all these neat SP skills but I would rarely ever get to use them because by the time you can use Jade Fox Flying Snow again you won't have the SP for it, so you just keep using your regular attacks.
There was an event last year that gave you an SP generation buff for playing in a guild party, only then did I truly enjoy Lynn.
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>>167009353
Not in FFXIV
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>>167010765
yeah the leveling roulette is actually pretty good for injecting blood into low level content
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>>167010017
Now that you mention it, you're right. Game content is locked behind story more often then not in XIV.

However there's one thing worth mentioning with this method, and that's that when you reach the level cap for 2.0 (50) and 3.0 (60) content opens up quite a bit and is mostly no longer locked behind story and branches off into it's own questlines. You have Raids which are - Crystal Tower, The Binding Coil of Bahamut, Void Ark, Alexander - which are locked primarily behind iLevel/gear level gates after you reach max level.
Then you have story quests such as Hildebrand and Scholisticate which are strictly story and require no iLevel to do. Then you've got optional trials like the Warring Triad.

The thing is that these raids and quests are not fully completed or even really released until the first or second content path, and then become more and more complete over said patch times and require higher iLevels every new installation.
The gane excels at post game stuff, and it's important to remember that this game is pretty casual friendly and doesn't require your entire day to do what you want to do if you want to donthe bare minimum for gear progression.

It's worth mentioning that XIV's story is really good, especially HW's - and the slog of 2.0 is primarily do to the pacing and archaic quests leading up to major plot points.
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>>167010017
On the topic of the jump potion, I believe you'd have to buy a Story and Level jump potion to be able to do this which I think equates to around $40 or so when converted and then $20 each for every other base class to get them to level 50. You will be given gear respectable for your level and the potions do not put you at max level, you still gotta play the game.

You call it Jew tactics, but I as a player of the game who has worked hard to level classes, this is the best possible way to implement this.
It's just steep enough a price to make lazy people to think twice, but just cheap enough for those who absolutely want it to get it.
You either do the time to level your classes on a normal sub, or you pay a slightly bigger fee all at once to get through 2.0 and have a level 50 character and a mount.
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>>167012268
>XIV's story is really good

>giant talking space crystal that you meet in a dream
>YOU are the CHOSEN ONE
>hero is useless in cutscenes
>*teleports behind u*
>the chancellor is evil

o i am laffin
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>>167010765
Unless you're a DPS, in which case your time is usually 30 minutes at max.
The recent cross-server PF has made this much nicer though and SE has done a pretty good job with making older content worth playing in a way.
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>>167012885
It's a good Final Fantasy story.
And useless character in cutscenes is a staple of nip games in general. How would you even implement that for cutscenes in a game where you can change classes at will?
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>Kancolle/panzer waltz/girls frontline/ace virgin mmo collab never
It would be what War Thunder promised to be, but with cyberpunk enemy waifus and sci fi ally waifus,
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>>167013139
>that much cancer at once
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>>167013059
>How would you even implement that for cutscenes in a game where you can change classes at will?

Effort, something XIV at least gives off the veneer of having at times, so that they didn't in this case is pretty bad.
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>>167013210
But they could take a hint from GF and actually have gameplay.
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>>167012837
I think the ideas it's solving could be fixed by adjusting the game a bit more. The idea that a jump potion is necessary to experience content is kind of baffling really, if you're playing a game wouldn't you want to actually play it? Why do you need to catch up to everyone first? There's plenty of people around for group content thanks to the excellent (and which should be mandatory for pretty much every game that isn't WoW) leveling roulette.

First of all, the story - If you want to skip the story playing through the game again you mostly can by skipping cutscenes. I leveled a new character and the experience was a billion times faster by skipping them on a second playthrough. And to catch myself up, I read the very detailed quest log while schlepping to the next point. It works pretty well.

Secondly - New players that want to join with friends. This is hamstringed at every opportunity by making all of the quest battles solo, since not only can you not do it with a friend you have to actually stop to break up your group first too. Playing through the story with a newfag would be way better if they just let you go together for all of this shit.
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>>166781465
nha the "only old people liked mmo" is just a meme
young kids would enjoy mmo's aswell if there were any decent one around
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>>166820408
What game?
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>>167014567
RevO
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The most exciting time of the day has come.
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>>167014849
Loli time?
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>>167007804
That supposed to be Rebirth? Awesome.

Also for Mabinogi, my free mount is on Mari, meanwhile everyone plays on Alexina. Is my only way to get a pet on Alexina through the Cash Shop?
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>>167014849
It's not 2am
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>>167014973
MMO time.
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>>167015162
When you die Nao can get you up.

You can make new character and get more free mounts?
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>>167013884
Of course I'd love to play it all. And I do agree adjustments of some kind are nessasary, but the content quality of 2.0 does not match that of 3.0.
This could be easily done by taking unimportant quests out of the MSQ line which would make it way more palettable.
2.0 is notorious for dragging shit that doesn't have anyhing to do with the main quest out. IE the fucking Banquette preperation for Costa del Sol to be able to fucking fight Titan, or having to get people to move out of an area to progress the quest but having to get some fucker collogne and a scarf to put it on so he doesn't have to deal with how a Chocobo pulling the carriage smells. Could REALLY do without that.
Getting INTO Crystal Tower is more a task than actually doing it becuase fucking timed Fates and events.

Even increasing EXP earned would be good too until level 50.
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>>167015240
What do you do on 2am?
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>>167015360
>You can make new character and get more free mounts?
The free mount is once per account apparently :(
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>>167015465
You get flying horse from sagas.
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>>167015535
That might save me. Can you use it anywhere?
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I have... 12 infinites on Krosmaga now. I started on December. Not bad. I kinda want to give them 5 shekels for the starter pack.
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>>167015628
You just make new characters and go straight to saga that gives them. Repeat until you get desired amount of horses.
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>>167013884
It's safe to assume that not everyone has an alt though, and this is also assuming you have the knowledge on what to do ahead of time.

Will agree that the Leveling and Roulette system has been very quick and friendly as of late, but that might because of the recent patch activity.
For the single player MSQ things, I personally think it makes a bit of since to push a player to do things on their own without the fear of burdening others and forcing then to learn their class. Novice Hall should be fucking manditory, and I don't care what anyone says. Guilhests are just roulette Novice Hall.

If anything the game prides itself on having ansingle player MSQ experiance, which is odd because anything major you do, you do with 3 to 7 others who are almost never mentioned.
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>>167015395
donate to hakurei shrine, of course!
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>>167015395
Go to sleep and dream about killing myself.
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>>167015628
Just make a new account. You're going to have 1 less mount if you use the same account. Not to mention less bank space.
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>>167015395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LnhOWkniX4
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>>167016317
I tried but they b& me every single time. I understand them desu, they're just trying to get funds for the game.
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>Start to dislike your class in an MMO
>Don't want to through leveling another character

This hurts
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>>167019365
level with someone
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>>167019365
>soloing in a MMO
For what reason?
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>>167019946
Some games punish you for grouping.

Vanilla WoW worked like this, actually. The best you could do was duo with someone competent, otherwise grouping was a waste of time.
>>
Anyone here played Shards Online?

Doubt it'll be any good but maybe I'll be surprised.
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>>167019946
absolutely no friends and not wanting to be around the average low level MMO player when it isn't launch anymore
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>>167022037
Have to start playing with /vg/ then. You may find some friends to play with.
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>>167019946
what does that have to do with the first post
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>>167023975
>joining a /vg/ guild
>ever
good joke
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>>166660897
It's fun and good, it's like Elsword and DFO married and had a child.
You can have a cute boy/girl visual without paying a single penny IRL.
Endgame is kinda boring, but it's not terrible. NA or global server is out of question now.
You can play the JP version, they don't have IP Block.
Also, if you want the itens and interface in english, go to IND server. The JP version is banning people who uses the english patch.
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>>167024243
Well you can be a lonely bear then anon.
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>>167024375
>The JP version is banning people who uses the english patch.
god bless
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>>167024243
There are plenty of autists on /vg/ who also don't want to join whole guilds of retards but don't mind duoing or stuff.
>>
we on that first page
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>>167029026
Fuck off.
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>>167013059
they do alter cutscenes depending on if you've done job quests before, 1.0 players get different cutscenes for some 2.x quests too.
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>>167029065
dumb anime poster
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>>167029474
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>>166993330
>Anyone hear play it?
Yes
>Think it's any good?
Very yes

Lucky for you NCSoft killed it and is squatting on the rights and won't even let anyone think of a private server before they send their lawyer goon squads at them. They will also only accept crazy high cash offers for it before laughing at people for trying and squatting back down on their pile of fun mmo corpses.

>>166993615
>villains was better
Yeah
>>
>>167024243
The /vg/ Secret World guild was alright, it can work in non-waifu/crazy shitpost games
>>
Good night... Looking forward to playing games with you.
>>
I miss mob grinding, quest grinding sucks
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>>167034349
they're the same thing
>>
>>167034683
No they aren't
>>
>>167034727
they are
>hey hero, pls kill 20 wolves for me
>hey hero, pls kill 20 dire wolves for me
>hey hero, pls kill 20 super dire wolves for me
>etc...
>>
>>167034349

I somewhat agree.

Based on my rather limited experience, quest grinding is more repetitive then mob grinding in some ways because you're doing the same quest over and over. But if the developers design the quests and quest givers in the world in a good way, they'll typically follow a kind of pattern or a circle that makes it easy to do them all in one swoop if you're grinding repeatable quests.

Mob grinding on the other hand is just the same mob over and over. While quests give more XP then mobs do you spend at least some amount of time in quest grinding running around and not doing killing related things. Guess it depends on the ratio of XP gain from quests and mobs over time spent.
>>
>>167035259
Quest grinding
>hey hero, pls kill 20 wolves for me
>hey hero, pls get 15 green plants for me
>hey hero, pls touch 5 rocks
>hey hero, go here
>hey hero, pls kill 20 dire wolves for me
>hey hero, pls get 15 red plants for me
>hey hero, pls touch 5 trees
>hey hero, go here
>hey hero, pls kill 20 super dire wolves for me
>hey hero, pls get 15 purple plants for me
>hey hero, pls touch 5 relics
>etc...

Mob grinding
>hey me I like this spot, kill 100 wolves here
>hey me I like this spot, kill 100 dire wolves here
>hey me I like this spot, kill 100 super dire wolves here
>hey me I like this spot, kill 100 super ultra dire wolves here
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>>167035874
>implying you have to do every single sidequest
>implying there are no repeatable kill X mobs quests in modern MMOs
>>
>>167034349
I liked mob grinding cause I could clearly see how I was improving at it
>>
>>167035874
>after killing 100 super ultra dire wolves the Dire Wolf God spawns and you need to a team to take it down and it drops good loot
>>
Are there any MMOs where you control a group of units? I think Kingdom under Fire 2 does that but that game is never coming out
>>
conan exiles releases in 3 hours
any info on client/server side stored values?
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>>166922323
no, i always roll the assassin/dual wield types, then find out they're shit in most games because of nerfs. i think aion was probably the only time i felt OP as assassin, and like wow during cata and other expansions at certain points.
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>>167037935
is it free?
NEET here
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>>167037935
Really don't think it'll be any good.

Looks like just another "survival" sandbox game.
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>>167038887
mob ai looks pretty trash so far as well, the real game is vs other players
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>>167039240
> the real game is vs other players

when is it not?
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>>167037935
looks pretty boring

titties though
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>>167036015
You all dumb motherfuckers keep forgetting that questing is literally nothing but adding an extra amount of tedium
Grinding is fun
Questing can be fun
Quest grinding will never and has never been fun
>okay you grinded 100 rabbit ass
>now walk 500 miles to deliver said rabbit asses for me
>okay now you can go back if you want i guess but theres really high diminishing returns
like fuck off my MMOmans legs weren't built for that

they were built to kick ass, not act in the audition for the literal 500 miles video
>b-bbut muh immershuns and lore
HELLO ADVENTURER I CRAVE FOR THE RABBIT ASS BUT I ALSO HAVE A NECROPHILIA FETISH HAHA GO FETCH
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>>167039849
i haven't played a game that actually had me walk to the npcs in a long time
they either have teleports or just remote quest completion
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>>167040087
what fucking MMOs have you been playing
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>>167040237
all of them?
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>>167037970
You could play on one of the WoW private servers and be god like 50% of the population
>>
>>166655264
Newfag here, what is that in the op image?
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Man i wanna play an mmorpg, not for erp or anything, i just wanna kill shit and level up but the combat on all these games is ass, and tera has ok combat but the erp shit disturbs me and i dont like the visuals at all.
Any suggestions?
I just wanna see numbers grow and kill shit
>>
Anyone here play RPGMO?
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>>167042021
Wildstar, Tera and Blade & Soul have the best combat in my opinion, if one doesn't appeal look at the others. B&S is almost as outlandishly T&A as Tera is though. I only say almost because there do exist some things that are kind of modest.
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>>167041949
ashes of creation
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Why developers keep thinking that making WoW clones is the way when they all die in 2 fucking months?
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>>167045416
Because you keep buying the $120 founder's pack for Jackoff title
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I lost 10 times in a row 3 days ago, quit, today I return to Krosmaga, and now I'm on an 8 win streak. Such is life.
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>>167045416
because a lot of companies see WoW and think gee that's making lods, what if we made that but better? or that for a specific, much more sad niche?

and then they try, and end up making that but worse, whether by their own ineptitude or their publisher cutting the lifeline
>>
JUST 14 TO GO LADS
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>>167051036
14 what?
>>
so, wakfu?
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>>167053485
yes
>>
What a dead thread
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>>167039849
>like fuck off my MMOmans legs weren't built for that
That's why there are mounts in MMOs, and fast travel. Also most repeatable grindan quests allow multiple turn ins so you can grind until you get sick of it, then come back with 1000 rabbit asses and turn in x10 at once.
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>>167042021
vinDEDctus
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>>167056651
aye
>>
FIVE (5) TO GO LADS
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who to pick for hero warz?
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how's conan exiles? does that count as an mmo? it has benis and tiddies
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>>167058839
The uninstall button.
Shit's going down "temporarily".
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PSO2 EP4 was a mistake.
>>
ZERO
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>>167034349
Every game still lets you mob grind.
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>>167059313
It was. Story, star gems making costumes either too expensive to buy, or too cheap to sell, daily mat farming limited by stamina, etc.
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>>167063789
Also, the whole layered costumes and crafting PAs ideas being underwhelming
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5n8PMV6ejY
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>>167063718
But less effective, and that's why people quest grind.

>>167034349
Yeah, miss that too sometimes. Played Lineage 2 a lot, back in the day.

Grindan while socialising. You can turn off your brain and chat with random people or clan chat or whatever.
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New thread: 167064056
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>>167064114
Why are you so incompetent?
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New thread: >>167064056

>>167064132
I didn't copy over any (embeds), I'm good.
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