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Previous Chapter: >>166590694

>[Rerun: Prison Tower's Howling Demon of Vengeance]
http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/ezqrc6/
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20170125.php#nav

>News
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaUHCxrWXRo
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php
- New ver - emulators, rooted androids, jailbroken iPhones&androids with developer options on are prevented from launching game
- Upcoming animation update for remaining F/SN Servants
- Half AP main story missions until February 8th
- FGO PS4 VR in development: http://news.fate-go.jp/2017/rswcrc/

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/cJ9J0t45

>Grand Time Temple Solomon and General Profiles Translation
http://pastebin.com/yP9nRYZM

>Fate/Grand Order Material Book III
https://www.mediafire.com/?e97zcwaov6noys2

>FL Spreadsheet (last reset: Dec.7)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org

>Materials, experience and event AP simulators
http://fgosimulator.webcrow.jp/

>Alternate servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html
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Sita when?
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Emulators are back. ANRC Xposed module just added basic x86 support. Use Nox. I know some would love to spread the word and tell DW so I don't want to make a full tutorial. If you care enough you should be able to get it working.
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>>166621984
>Chapter
other than that you did a decent job for your first time
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Bedi-chan is the cutest member of the round table!
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I haven't played in a while. Logging on now because i'm switching phones too and it looks like I went back in time. What the fuck? Is Edmond Dantes even a good pick up?
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>>166622110
Welcome back!
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>Extella discussion
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>>166622075
bullshit
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>>166622093
The 2 previous ones had it on so I thought it was an event joke or something

Have this old lewd pic as compensation
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>>166622093
That was apparently added a few threads ago
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>>166622216
they were just redditor faggots
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Im getting 4k back from tax return. I can splurge an extra 500 on top of the 450 so far to try and get Dantes. The rest is for extra car payments.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12193112

Which one is less shit?
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LIZ THREAD
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>>166622281
>the rest is for more gachas
ftfy
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>>166622281
The fuck is a tax return.
You're refunding?
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>>166622281
Sell your car for quartz
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fgo fightan gemu
y/n
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>>166622360
I'm still waiting for a non-shit F/SN fightan gemu
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>>166622353
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unreleased Noble Phantasm voice
https://youtu.be/WAhcZEwWutI
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>>166622441
Im a neet I dont pay taxes so I dont know
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Best boy.
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>>166622353
It's a fiscal thing
You refund the government
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>>166622075
What if I care enough but am too stupid?
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>>166622469
>Bedi
>Riceman
>Lancelot
I guess it come with interlude,just like Karna
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>>166622318
>all these tasteless fags who didn't choose Extella
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>>166622549
This
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>>166622281
The hell do you do? Im only getting 1k, I thought it was the more you make the less you get back. Looking at how you whale, you should be making a shit ton per month.
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>>166622469
>Ozzy
Is that Messeket and Sphinx line?
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>>166622469
Interesting. So Ozymandias had The Sphinx of Abu el-Hol as a NP but DW scrapped it. Then they tried Mesektet but later decided on Ramesseum Tentyris. Glad we got this one.
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>>166622353
Anon, are you twelve?
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Guan Yu 5* when lads?
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>>166622469
Do you think in the OVA we'll get to hear Koyasu go go full mudamuda when he's slamming his pyramid into Rhongomyniad?
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>>166622710
>The hell do you do?

Nice try FBI
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>>166622353
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>>166622353
You need to be over 18 to post on this board
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>>166622757
No how could I post here otherwise?
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>>166622549
Then do your best, research and learn through trial and error. It's really not that hard.
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>>166622890
He may be from a country where it isn't common. Mine rarely return you money.
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http://pastebin.com/wh7B7pd3

Weekly reminder it exists. Don't forget to lend your energy to the fanficfag.
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>>166622985
I don't want it to exist though
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>>166622898
Fuck.
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>>166622360
Y E S
E
S

Music by Daisuke Ishwatari
Co-Written by Narita, Toshimichi Mori and Nasu
30 Playables
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>166622075
any advantage if I'm already using RemixOS?
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>>166623203
Are you sure you want to add Mori as a writter ?
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>>166623161
Sorry. People in the past have tweeted screenshots from here to DW out of pure malice so I can't make a guide for dummies just so they can tighten the security again. If you're stuck on something hard I wouldn't mind helping a bit, but not about very basic obvious things.

>>166623275
If you're dualbooting there won't be no need to switch to another OS anymore whenever you want to play. If you're using a VM it'll require less resources and will run better. You can have root enabled and all its advantages.
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>Double Bomberman on Castle Babylon node
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>>166623203
>Mori in the team
>everyone and their moms are playable except -whoever is the equivalent of Jubei in nasuverse-
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>>166623446
Does it mean cheatapk is back
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>>166623051
Why tho
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>>166623638
No because the APK isn't being modified this time. However you can memory edit easily again.
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new berserker when?
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>>166623682
Poorly written autism
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>>166623776
What's poor about it?
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>>166623446
I want to use emulator for better resolution scaling but I'm afraid they will patch out again, guess I'll wait and see
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>>166623496
Im still mad.
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>>166623746
Ebin of Remnant
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>>166623830
The writing
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>>166623945
What's writing about the poor?
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>>166623746
>tfw all the 5* berserker I like have shit art
Soon I hope. My autism don't let me level up nurse because of this. Same for raita skeleton
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>>166623994
Shouldn't that be who's writing about the poor
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>>166623712
>>166623638
why the fuck do you niggers have to try your best to cheat in a fucking mobage? Maybe DW wouldn't have such a boner for banning rooted devices and emulators and dev options if you shitbags didn't use every opportunity to cheat.
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>>166623203
>>166623496
>Mori
Go back to your cancer general Blazbabs, the writing in that franchise is fucking God awful even if you compare it to the worst Type-Moon shit
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>>166624075
Sorry, I meant to say poor's what about the wring?
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>>166622281
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>>166624143
Who hurted you? Besides the whole franchise and their fucking stingers
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>>166623638
>cheating in mobage
>some reddit/nip will report it to DW
>wanting another huge ban on emulators
Haven't you retards learned anything from your previous mistakes?
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>>166623203
>Ishiwatari in charge of the OST

Where to I sign to make this real?
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>>166624143
rude
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>>166624029
kintoki and vlad are fine
I can't get over dragon dog shitty arm and small head
raikou you must to like raita to begin with
and don't make me get started on nightingale
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>>166622419
I'm still waiting for a non-shit Fate game.
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>>166623434
>>166623496
Narita and Nasu are there to hem him in when his bad idea engine flares up.
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>>166624115
Fuck off shill. With the shit rates and terrible worst-in-industry gameplay you can't blame people for wanting to cheat. They don't even give us autobattle.
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>>166624143
He's perfect for the gag ending
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>>166624623
>>166624307
The only thing Mori is good for is BTFOing all the Ninefags by making her a catfucker and making unwaifuable dogshit
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>>166624115
>>166624347
Cheatapk made the game so fast and boring that It made me quit for a while.
If it comes back it could be the door to set me free from this kusoge
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>>166624623
>Every single Spectacles of Eros ending
How does he do it
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>>166624502
Real Fate MMO fucking when?
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>>166624759
Never because it'll flop. Good that Nasu realized that in time.
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Titan Goddess Corroded Dark Eli is Numbah One
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>>166624168
>endless teases and needlessly overcomplicated backstory for every character
>big chunk of the Servants are returning characters which isn't the worst but is fucking lazy
>big chunk of the Masters are returning, which is the worst
>setting is equally uninspired
And the worst of all
>egregious overuse of commas
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>>166624759
>MMO
>Fate
good thing you're not nasu
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>>166624115
I think people cheat because they see the game as a chore rather than something they truly enjoy. It's not something that happens only here, there is a cheatapk for pretty much every mobage. Happens on PC and consoles games as well.

I'm just glad I can finally play again without having to restart my crappy PC to switch to Android. Now I can login every couple of hours to refresh my login time instead of +7hs later.
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Fate MMORPG when?
You choose a class, one of the many servants in the class etc.
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Can anybody lend me some money?
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>>166624990
sure give me your account
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>>166624990
What for?
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>>166624723
A love potion type event is cliche but funny surprised we didn't get something like it for valentines
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>>166624990
Sure, I've got some quarters in my front pocket just reach out and grab them
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>>166624990
What do you have to offer in exchange for, fuckboi?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA9tZXR9mWA

Is she /OurGal/?
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>>166625028
A love potion event in GO would either be Guda drinks it when all the Servants want his cock anyway, or an NPC drinks it and cucks you, which is probably why we didn't get it.
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>>166622075
This might be easier if it wasn't in chink
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>>166625028
It's not that cliche in games
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Nightingale btfo
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>>166625126
Why is playing as Tamamo so difficult in extella

It's just frustrating when she jumps after every second basic attack
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>>166625216
Wot

She's one of the easiest to play chars on the roster, if anyone's a pain in the ass at first it's Li Shuwho with his tiny range.
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>>166625028
Gudao/Gudako doesn't have the right character for it. It works in BB thanks to how much of a blushing virgin Ragna is
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Is Old Street the best place to farm gears? This shit is killing me
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>>166622071
>>166622328
>>166622491
>>166622773
>>166623258
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS?
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>>166625262
I don't know why, but after every single attack she jumps in the air, it's fucking annoying
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>>166625098
>Guda drinks it when all the Servants want his cock anyway
Wanting to is different from trying to while mashu try's to stop them so she can be first sounds fine to me
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>>166625331
Chicago
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>you will never hear hysteriamoe in the game ever again
why even live
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>>166625331
Atlas or Chicago
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>>166625373
Are you hitting jump by accident?

Does this happen with any of the other chars or just Tamamo?

She has a pretty straight forward combo, something must be fucked if she's randomly jumping
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>>166625274
Their Japanese so they fit it to me
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>>166625370
newfag
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>>166625274
Gudas character changes depending on what the scene requires them to be like, because they don't actually have one.
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>>166625274
>It works in BB thanks to how much of a blushing virgin Ragna is
Any other games where you think it works
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>>166625098
Guda already drank Fergus's """energy drink"""
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>>166625510
Just her. Switching over to Karna lets me play normally, though I hate his moves

I finished of Cu's entire sidestep without this happening to him either
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I'm still curious who the fuck this is meant to be.
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>>166625518
Not really, only realized just now that every thread looks the same.
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>get to spawn dragons 2 times
>drop gold chests
>both are rider skills
REEEEEEEEEEEEE GIVE ME MY FUCKING SCALES
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>>166625407
>>166625507
thanks, I'll give it a go.
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>>166625023
Someone's coming in some hours, I don't have the means to feed that person.
>>166625043
I'll repay you, eventually. I'll also gib you my humble gratitude and some prayers.
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>>166625640
Mumei
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>>166625640
It's probably Okita in a coat desu
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>>166625639
That's weird as shit. Luckily you can use Karna for the whole Tamamo section.

He gets alot better once he's leveled up a bit so he should become bearable in no time. His third combo with enough levels shoots his eye beams which are always fun.
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>>166625640
Kinda looks like Okita if the colors weren't all wrong.
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>>166625640
Reminds me of okita is her whole group besides her confirmed for male?
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>>166625726
>>166625776
Fucking racist not all asians look the same
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>>166625717
> I don't have the means to feed that person

Then... Tell them not to come?

How much do you need.
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Am I missing something? The next mission looks like it unlocks at 9:00 JP time, but it's already 15:00. These aren't on local times all of a sudden are they
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>>166625726
>>166625776
>>166625794
Okita died when he was 4 y.o. what the hell are you on?
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>>166625794
Her Shinsengumi is like 300 people so I imagine some of them are girls. Hijikata is definitely a boy.
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>>166625640
It Musashi when she is drifting through various world
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>>166625634
That's not a love potion although I think Medb mead NP might be
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>>166625639
>>166625728
Alright nevermind I think my controller's fucked. I just used my NP against a plant when I didn't even have my finger on R2 and was going to use a heavy attack
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>>166625794
>>166625726
>>166625886

But there's literally a shield on her arm, none of the nips have shields
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>>166625819
They were always local time.
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>>166625859
>Fate
Don't think too hard about it
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>>166625926
Oh, how weird. I guess I never paid enough attention to the time quest events to realize it
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>>166625579
OVA made Gudao the biggest Mashufag you'll ever find.
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>>166625898
Welp, time to buy a new controller senpai

Given how pissed off the servants get at plants existences, they're probably glad you diced one with an np though desu.
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>>166625819
12:00 JST, 7 hours and 15 min left.
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>>166625924
That's not a shield
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>>166625893
It make you super horny so maybe you fucked Fergus right there
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>>166625924
That's not a shield, her coat is flapping up in the wind behind her.
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>>166625924
That's her coat flowing in the wind.
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>>166625994
Also the dumbest Mashufag you'll ever find
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>>166625924
Pretty sure thats a kimono's sleeve
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>>166625994
OVA isn't cannon
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>>166626049
>>166626068
>>166626086

> This shape
> A coat
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>>166626098
Anon there's this thing called comforting, she's got half a building collapsed on her might as well make her feel a bit of happiness before she dies
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>>166626098
Why did they translate Matthew as Mash?
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>>166625640
Its Kojiro(True)
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>>166626159
This is like SEMIRAMIS CONFIRMED with Leos shield all over again
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>>166626098
Remind me why Galahad is such a douchebag that he only agreed to fuse with Mashu when the shit went south?
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>>166626176
> Are you okay
> When she has a building on her

That's not comforting, that's rude as fuck. I'd call him a smartass if I didn't know he was retarded.
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>>166625640
It's pic related
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>>166626231
He didn't agree with the inhumane shit they were doing
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>>166626182
It's not Matthew or Mash, it's Mashu. Her name is spelt ma-shu. Matthew is wrong since she asks you not to call her that and Mash is wrong since it's idiot fansubbers and redditors.
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>can't load any images
thanks hirojew
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>>166626285
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>>166626159
She seems to have a gun too.
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>>166626330
>Matthew is wrong since she asks you not to call her that
Matthew (masheu) is her full name be everyone calls her Mashu (mashu) because she likes it more.
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>>166626341
It's probably the sheathe
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>>166626098
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>>166626330
Yes and waver is a load
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>>166626098
>half of her body gets crushed
>dumb malemaster asks if she's okay
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>>166626341
What if it's just a scabbard?
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>>166626341
> Gun
> Shield
> Sword
> All the main weapons of war, possibly bow too

Personification of heroes throughout history with no recorded name (True)?
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>>166626394
>half of her body gets crushed
>dumb femalemaster is spread all over the concrete on the other side of the room
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>>166625717
Why do you have to feed her? Are you picking up on some 3DPD?
>tfw anon just summoned Saber and can't handle the food
Kek
How much do you need
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>>166626432
She wanted to escape gacha hell
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GOD FUCKING DAMN WHY DO I NEED SO MUCH QP FOR LEVEL 10? IS USING A LIMITED RESOURCE THAT THEY GIVE OUT ON THEIR TERMS NOT FUCKING ENOUGH?
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>>166626445
Really like colorful Nakahara Saber
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>>166626406
I don't see anything except a sword
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>>166626512
dw is bad civilisation
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>>166626385
wtf I hate Mashu now.
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>>166626537
Are those strips of red cloth? Does she have Emiyas shroud on her arm?

Is this HF Shirou (Female) (True)?
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>>166626098
That happened in the game as well, mashu talks to be Bedivere in camelot one night about the guy who took her hand as she was buried under rubble, and stayed with her until the end.

>>166626231
Because it would overwrite mashus soul and erase her, you say he's a retard for not doing it, but the entire reason the canned the evil death experiments is because the hero they summoneed was too moral to destroy the host by materializing within her. Instead he just went to sleep in her all this time. He saw the designer baby death experiments as evil, he protected mashu. The hero would not approve of their goals.

In the same conversation in camelot mashu says Galahad materialized partially only after it accepted guda as a worthy master as well, seeing him hold mashus hand as she was dying.
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>>166626537
Do you seriously not see a shield?

Like

It's a really explicit shield shape on her arm-
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>>166626559
It's Megumeme Mashu. She deserved the hate.
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>>166626330
>>166626285
It's the same as Atilla and Altera

Both names exist, but she tells you to call her the nickname instead.
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>>166626159
>>166626628
It actually like this,not fused together.
Red is her arm+sleeve,blue is her coat flapping
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>>166626628
I see a bag
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>>166626628
It's her coat billowing
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>>166626660
That's some shitty ass flapping.

We're never gonna know who this bitch is, are we?
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>tfw you've never read a single word of the story or even watched the OVA
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>>166626668
Oh god, it's JK Saber!
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>>166626628
That is her coat bottom being blown up from the wind unless you think her whole arm is a shield which she's uses to hold her sword with
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>>166626725
The thread is enough.
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>>166626725
Keep it that way and never watch it
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>>166626660
Why is her ass holding a sword?
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Forgive me but what does a good Quick team look like?

I get Arts teams (np spam, basically) and I get Buster teams (BBB chain, or buff Buster NP, basically). What about Quick teams? A shitton of stargen? huge crit damage? NP spam?
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>>166626660
Thank you can't believe some people can't see that and I thought my eyes were bad
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>>166626668
>I see a bag
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>>166626445
Would you sell yourself to Satan for sandwiches?
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>>166626725
I guarantee you there is at least one person in here right now who has never read, played, or watched a single piece of published Fate media including FGO, and speaks only based on what they've seen in Fate threads and maybe the wiki.
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>>166626793
Crit damage (and NP spam with Jack and Okita)
More often you add a crit buster like Jeanne alter.
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>>166626535
Same, nakahara is talented
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>>166626793
It looks like shit. Pure Quick teams are called meme teams for a reason. They already generate enough stars so making your Quick cards (which are also the weakest card in terms of damage output) crit doesn't really benefit you.

When someone runs a Quick team you can see they have no idea how to play the game. What you actually want is a Buster or Arts crit team instead.
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>>166626725
Why play then?
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>>166626852
Yeah, we call him melvin
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>>166626852
Is it (You) ?
That's dedication to shitpost.
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>>166626890
anyone have any idea how to build Ozzy and Gil Bride team
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>>166626890
is Dantes a meme?
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Nice joke, Hiroyama.
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>>166626947
Burn them for rare prisms
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>>166626905
Because I like Fate and have never played a mobage prior so I had no clue what kind of hell I was walking into.
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>>166626947
you can't. Ozzy is support oriented with a buster NP and gil is an arts crit support.
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>>166626951
Maybe you should post the image with a joke itself.
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>>166626951
>Nasu Kino
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>>166626725
Just watch the caster Cu scenes, they're the only good thing about the OVA anyways
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>>166626860
>>166626890
Buster/Arts crit teams I get, but aren't using crit stars pretty rng dependent in general? Aren't you hoping/wishing for a good attack card lineup to maximize the crit stars and associated buffs?

Unless crit stars impact most standard nps and I'm such a casual shit I never noticed?
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They should have used Berserker Herk's other NP in this game instead of Nine Lives.
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>>166626793
It looks like this.
Perma crit and NP.
But it's not that good, BusterCrit is better
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>>166627067
Yeah 12 guts buff
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>>166627005
Solomon's demon pet took over his body after he reincarnated after a previous grail war, destroying history you must solve the singularities, in the end our friend Dr. Roman turned out to be the reincarnated Solomon and took back his powers and sacrificed himself leading to Goetia's demise and time being saved.

The end,
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>>166627067
he should have gotten 9 guts that stack for his NP
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>>166626832
I would. Satan is cute
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>>166627110
No, I'm talking about Spinning Assault Blue Lancer.
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>>166627076
>it's not that good
you can clear every fight in the game with 1-3 stars who gives a single fuck
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>>166626660
So red kimono, black coat, black hair, katana, scabbard, and those dumb shoes I can't remember the name of.

I still don't know who the fuck it is unless it was drawn before they finalized Okita's design.
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>>166627171
Oh yeah he should of got that
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>>166627147
I really have no idea why you can't stack guts. It makes BC absolutely pointless and chance-based if you're running with Bond CE.
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Cu Lily when?
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>>166627076
I mean I guess? Shishou is the only one that actually has a crit damage buff. The other 2 generate stars fairly well. This just seems like stacking good stargen servants next to each other and having at it.
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>>166627178
>who gives a single fuck
Not me. The anon sounded like a gameplayfag so I just told him.
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>>166627171
That's his hidden EX Np right
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>>166626660
Emperor Sutoku
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Which one should I get anons?
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>>166627243
Okita has a crit damage buff you dunce
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Why is Arash so angry? What the fuck is his problem?
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>>166627186
>unless it was drawn before they finalized Okita's design.
Could just be her in a different outfit or alter Okita
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>>166627352
He's forced to kill himself thousands of times a day
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Has a katana? Must be Okita
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>>166627351
my bad you're right. it's on the evasion

obviously i don't have okita heh
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>>166627352
>Make a muslim character
>He kills himself blowing up other stuff
What did Nasu mean by this?
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>>166627243
All those three generate stars well.
Okita also has crit damage up for 3 turns.
Also with jack bond CE+Okita bond CE you have +50% crit damage up on the field for everyone. At this point it's kinda strong
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>>166626947
If you're determined to use both Caster Gil and Ozymandias then you need to accept Gil won't be supporting Ozymandias at all but your third party member which should be a stargen servant like Kotaro or Jack to take advantage of Gil's stargen skill. Gil is a waste of a slot in my opinion.

>>166627057
Most crit damage dealers have star absorb skills to allow them to get as many stars as they can so even if you don't generate that many stars the previous turn they will still receive them and do something good with them. A solid crit team generates a decent amount of stars per turn but yes card counting and choosing when to use less optimal cards to generate a bit more of stars for the next turn plays a big role.
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>>166627361
> Alter Okita

We have that covered already.
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>>166625640
majin saber
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>>166627186
>I still don't know who the fuck it is unless it was drawn before they finalized Okita's design.
Okita had a design years before she was in GO, I don't think they were making route end CGs before they even thought up the game.
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>>166627349
All of them
And scan them too
>>166627436
Arash isn't muslim, but Hassan actually instakilled you when they died in the Nero festival so you're still right
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>>166627461
Okay no Gil
So what 3* or 2* should i use
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>>166627076
>Those CE synergy
Quick dreamteam pls gib
jack and okita rate up when? ;_;
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>>166627515
He's not, I guess I should stop listening to fgog
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>my last two nights have dreamt of Saber

Goddamnit this franchise is pulling me back in. Help me and my godawful taste.
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>>166627479
>a year has passed
>still no majin saber
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>>166627645
There's no fixing being a cuck
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>>166627689
>Over a year has passed
>Still no Honnouji rerun
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>>166627639
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>>166627709
I don't even like Seiba anymore.

Who's even popular these days outside of the obvious ones (Saber, Gilgamesh)?
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>>166627743
What did he see?
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>>166627816
Wasn't DUDE in Extella due to popularity?

Scathach must be up there too
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>>166627837
me
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>>166627816
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE
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>>166627616
Well, he's from Persia and that region right now is muslim, I think
But Arash was from before muslims were a thing, I think he's from Zoroastrism
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>>166627436
He is Persian.
That aside,Esfandiyar,Arsalan and Rostam fucking when.
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>>166627816
DUDE
Scat
Jeanne
Saberface in general
F/SN original are kinda popular too beside Medea, Berserker and Hassan
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Speaking of Arash, what other black servants do we have in the game besides him? There's obviously Ozzy and Nitocris, but i'm sure i'm forgetting some.
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>>166622075
Nice to be playing the way god intended again
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>>166628048
Emiya.
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>>166628048
gigga nigga
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>>166628048
>Arash
>Ozzy
>Nitocris
>black
WE
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>>166628048

You
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>>166627837
Excalibur out of the rock
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So considering we've seen Helena's original design, have we seen any other discarded designs for servants in fate?

I think there was a Perseus one in HA that got retconned in Prototype but I feel like there should be more.
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>>166628150
Oh right Altera too, she's another black servant.
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>>166628150
Mashu
Proto servants
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>>166628150
That Perseus design wasn't retconned, we are getting two Perseus's.

The loli Medusa from Ataraxia mats got retconned though.
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>>166628150
>other discarded designs
Maybe you should just check the fucking mats for early sketches or something? And no, HA Perseus isn't retconned, he's a separate character because they're from different worlds.
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>>166627845
He was in poll with other shittier unpopular Zero servant,(Lancelot,Hassan,Deermud and Gilles) of course he got choosen
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>>166628184
>Black person
>End of human civilization
wew
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>>166628048
>black
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>>166628184
SO YOU BE SAYIN'

*Eats civilization*

YOU BE SAYIN' THAT

*Beats up the gods*

THAT WE WAS

*Shanks Ares and takes his sword*

WE WAS SUM

*Gets btfo by Seiba*

AYYYY LMAO'S N SHIETTTTTTTT

*Rides Body Hakuno into a good end*
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>>166628197
>loli Medusa from Ataraxia mats
How's that a retcon if we have a CE with this dress?
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>>166628319
The CE says she never wore it.
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Be honest with me here, /fgog/ is actually 90% black isn't it?
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>>166628385
Pure aryan here
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>>166627983
>Zartosht gave Esfandiyār a chain and armor from Heaven. The armor made him invincible and the chain had the power to bind anyone, even a demon or evil magician, making them unable to escape. Zartosht also gave a Divine blessing to the prince and declared that anyone who would spill the blood of Esfandiyār (killed him) shall suffer a cursed life of bad omens until the day he dies and even after death would be condemned to hell.
>Esfandiyār sets out in haste passing through a difficult and dangerous path with 7 different battles which would be known later as 7 labors of Esfandiyār

Is he mini Herc?
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>>166628385
Pure aryan reporting in
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>>166628378
And that was kinda obvious from her HA flashback. So if anything, the design from the mats was a "what if" situation all along.
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>>166628385
I'm a beady eyed Anglo
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>>166628385
Pure barbare reporting.
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>>166628385
I'm half blakc with a white cock.
Feels bad man
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>>166628410
> Invincible

Negates attacks of C-Rank and below

> Chain with the power to bind

Binds oni's and casters, useless against anyone else

> Bad omens

Lowers luck stat of people who beat him

> 7 labors

Gets nothing from them

Enjoy your literal who
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>>166628460
>And that was kinda obvious from her HA flashback.
The one where she's already an adult? The design from the mats says it's a design for Medusa as a child, not a what if Medusa as a child because Nasu had already decided a decade ago that loli Medusa was a scythe chain battle loli.
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>>166628463
>>166628451
>>166628409
>>166628385
>65 unique posters
>only 4 white people here

wew /fgog/ is even less white than I thought. Blackest general on /vg/
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>>166628518
>Lowers luck stat of people who beat him
What happens if Cu kills him?

Can you even go lower than E rank in luck?
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He finally came to me.
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>>166628385
Egyptian here to verify.
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>>166628570
I told you he would
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>>166628562
E-
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>>166628536
There is literally nothing wrong with being black.
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>>166628518
>bind ANYONE,even demons and magician
>lol only works on demon and magician
Do you have reading problem?
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>>166622071
>yfw you can't roll Sita if you own Rama and vice versa

How would you feel?
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>>166628597
HOL UP
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>>166628562
Dantes doesn't have a luck stat
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>>166628618
No but Nasu would never ever approve a chain that binds absolutely anyone when even Gil's only works on divinity. He'd find that mention and make it work exclusively on that.

Same way he un-wanks anything without relation to Gilgamesh, the round table or Greece.
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>>166628705
Isn't Enkidu still a pretty good chain when used vs not divine enemies? I mean, it's not like it breaks like crackers
And Nasu wanks Karna too
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Cute.
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>>166628705
Easy,make the chain have Luck check when used.
A Luck can escape easier,the lower the Luck the harder its bind.
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>>166628849
He's a Karna fanboy, compare Arjuna to Karna who realistically should be Karna-level and who instead is a shitter.

And nah the majority of it's power comes from latching onto divine's, if you're not divine at all it's a mild escapable hindrance.
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>>166628535
And it's true as far as appearance go. Naturally she wears a similar dress as Stheno and Euryale because Takeuchi couldn't be bothered with a design for
>scythe chain battle loli
That doesn't mean she wasn't one, she still was protecting Stheno and Euryale.
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>>166626852
>read slightly more than the prologue of F/SN
>watched 17 eps of Zero, 2 of ufo's SN, and the rest of the fight scenes of each
>watched all of the UBW movie though
>played maybe 3/4 of Nero's route in Extra, and skimmed a summary of CCC
>read a lets play of arc's route in Tsukhime and a quarter of Ciel's
>watched all of carnival phantasm before most of the above
>my only reading of GO comes from these threads, medb's interlude, and the my room lines pastebins
>All I know about Extella is from here and a few screencaps too
>read far more crossover Fate fanfic and doujins than I probably should have
>played ten minutes of Unlimited Codes
>picked up most of my knowledge from tvtropes, 4chan threads, and the TM wiki
>most of my opinions are regurgitated from others or derived wholly from reading summaries

Why the fuck do I even care about this franchise? Why do I have such strong feelings about characters in it or other such things? Why do I enjoy learning about it, but not consuming the actual materials?

Jesus Christ I need to stop doing this sorta shit with so many things. I'm a chronic wikifag and I can't help it.
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>>166628634
A little sad, but hopeful an event will reunite them permanently.
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>>166627816
Merlin.
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>>166628952
>Naturally she wears a similar dress as Stheno and Euryale
She explicitly doesn't though, that's the point. The CE is Ana lamenting that she never got to wore a dress like that. Loli Medusas old design was her in a dress like that. Therefore, her old design was retconned.
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>>166628048
Nasu said Altera was black. So her.
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>>166629007
Depends how much you shitpost about things you haven't actually read, based on vague guesses. That might be important info.
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>>166629007
> Stopping tons of series in the middle and not continuinning

That would annoy me like fuck.

Finish Zero, finish UBW, read the night route from the vn then come back and wait for HF with us
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>>166629007
You're literally me
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>>166629152
That's fucking terrible advice

Just read the VN then get out
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Who
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>>166629082
He said she was from sahara, so she's Egyptian.
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>>166629043
Appearance is the same. Dress is the same. They're not combined but it doesn't matter, design was not retconned if it's canon.
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>>166629082
She's not even human.
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>>166629192
The madman keeps doing it.
>>
>>166629192
Is that Gudako's udon servant
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>>166629152
Don't do this
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>>166629152
I've honestly got F/SN downloaded - both anime and VN - along with Zero, and I've been meaning to get stuck into them for ages.

I think I'm gonna start on this tonight. Just try to force myself to actually see this shit through and not be a tertiary anymore.
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>>166629246
The dress existing is canon, her wearing it is not. So it's not a design for her character.

This is not rocket science. She had an old design, a new design has replaced it.
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>>166629192
Carroll?
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>>166628936
Arjuna is fault of Higashide shitting his pants everytime he has to design a servant because he fears that Nasu will reject them because they are too strong, even after what he did with Achilles
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>>166629082
Tan isn't black.
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>>166629249
>black aren't people

That's really racist and I hate that I share a general with someone so bigoted
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>>166628048
>egyptians
>black
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Reminder that this man invented the common usage of the word 'Eureka'

Can the Absolute Mathman be stopped?
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>>166629293
Good lad.
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>>166629192
Looks like loli Takano wearing the older one's military like attire.
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>>166629352
>be thinker who dedicated their entire life to maths and agriculture
>made like 2 inventions in his whole life to harm people out of over 100 discoveries
>most famous for running around naked

>is an evil humanity hating pedophile sadist mastermind
thanks nasu
>>
>>166628184
>>166628256
Unironically Nasu says she's black skinned because she's from Sahara.
>>
I have yet to finish the tsukihime VN

I dropped it sometime in Akiha's route. I did Arc/Ciel/Hisui and hearing this fucking music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXB8sY3nu1g just broke me and I will never pick up the VN again.

All these school themes that use the exact same music, that go over the same stuff BUT it has just enough little details that change that I can't skip it.

I'm glad that FSN makes the differences between routes very apparent very early on, because I can't stand Tsukihime anymore
>>
>>166629470
Tbf

He didn't start evil in Extella. He only ended up hating humanity when he realized how exceedingly logical Velber was by comparison and how much better ayyyy lmao's are.
>>
>>166629495
Dark skinned, not black.
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>>166629192
Tanya servant confirmed.
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>>166629335
There were Nubian pharaohs, anon.
To generalize Egyptians as just black would still be completely wrong though since it was a super fucking mixed society.
/his/ talks about this crap all the time.
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>>166629306
"Black skinned" isn't "tan." Nasu concept of Attila is black skin + white hair.
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>>166629295
>it's not a design for her character
Are armored Saber and casual dress Saber two different Sabers?
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>>166629470
He perfectly captured his exposure fetish
>>
>>166629495
>>166629556
Nasu literally said she's tan, not black.
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>>166629573
>comparing clothes a character actually wears to those a character doesn't
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>>166629540
The kanji used means exactly the same. If he had meant tan, it was another one.
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>>166629304
It's been happening in FGO regardless, some servants even got their np reduced in FGO mats like Astolfo, I believe his np is down to 3
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>>166629573
Edgy Saber in a santa suit is considered a different character from edgy saber not in a santa suit so why not by this point
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>>166628385
>>166628536
According to /int/, there is no white people to be honest.
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>>166629601
>Nasu literally said she's tan,
Stop making shit up. He said she was black that's why he had to fumble about "but Attila the Hun isn't black" so he made her from Africa and called it a day. If it was just about a tan, he wouldn't need that excuse.

HE USED KUROI to describe her skin. This is dark, but most importantly referred to black.
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>>166629518
Go back for Akiha lad, she's got the best route.

Don't bother with Kohaku though since she's a useless cunt who deserves death but never gets it.
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>>166629518
>that OST
Fucking nostalgia rush, it's been almost a decade since I read Turkeyhandle

The meido routes are the only reason to play it though so you are cutting yourself off of half the worthwhile content though
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>>166629628
How's that any different from a ton of promotional images with Saber in yukata, wedding dress, etc? She doesn't wear them in F/sn, does she?
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>>166629518
Kohaku route was the wildest route
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>>166629192
The Tinderbox?
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>>166629518
>I dropped it sometime in Akiha's route.
Fuck off.
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>>166629710
> Sephyr the WHITE titan
> Black

Can'tFoolMe.png
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>>166629518
This desu, Tsukihime is dated as fuck and anyone who claims to enjoys it does so for the purpose of being a contrarian. The remake can't come fast enough so it can be more than unreadable garbage.
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>>166629747
>>166629734
HF > UBW > Hisui > Akiha = Arcueid > Ciel >>>> Fate > Kohaku
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>>166629758
Nothing in F/SN outright says "Saber never wears a Yukata and never will"

And she does wear a wedding dress.
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>>166629710
Also being from the Sahara doesn't really mean shit considering she wasn't born to human parents. She's an alien. If she's dark due to being in the Sahara then the sun must've tanned her.
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>>166629702
So going by popular board opinion we're all black, neet, manlet, fat, hungry skeletons who are cucks?
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>>166629785
But if the remake comes out it'll be garbage like everything Nasu writes and still unreadable since we're all stealth-EOPs
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>>166629798
HF>>Kohaku>Hisui>>Arcuied>UBW>Fate>>Ciek>>>Akiha
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>>166629601
IIRC, he described her as 「色黒」. You can translate that as dark skin, if you want to be literal, but this is how nips call black people. Her 'tan' design might be as 'canon' as Arturia's lack of muscles on her back when we're informed she has them to make her more appealing to waifufags.
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>>166629734
>>166629747
I might pick it back up again some time, though I don't even have it installed anymore. I absolutely loved Hisui's route so maybe Kohaku's can make me come back
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>>166629830
Add to that, nobody lives in Sahara besides sand nigger.
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>>166629734
>>166629798
Don't listen to these allegedly racist liars
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>>166629886
>google it
>bunch of tan people rather than blacks
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> Fate fags are WE WUZ types

Our timeline deserves to be pruned
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>>166629679
Well, that's because most servants don't have enough personal skills and/or they have only the vanilla ones, so the writers and DW have to work around it
Doesn't Dr P. have two skills that are basically what Item Creation EX does?
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>>166629785
>tfw don't like Tsukihime much
>tfw love all of the unused concepts and materials of the Tsukiverse like the DAA, everything about that Tsukihime 2 teaser that will never happen, Alcatraz and Arcueids talk, Aylesbury ritual, Zelretch vs. Brunestud, etc.
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>>166627845
>>166627898
Good to hear.

Who the hell is Scathach?
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>>166629905
Turkeyhandle is fairly short, it can't be that much of a grind to get back onto a girls route. You've done more then half of it already too. Just do Kohakus then move on to Kagetsu Tohya.
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> Be Alien
> Be known as Sephyr the WHITE titan
> Get btfo
> Live in the Sahara for a bit in a smaller form, found by some Asians to do some Atilla the Hun shit
> People think you're a natural black
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>>166621984
I want to hug young Dantes and tell him everything is gonna be okay.
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>>166629806
>denying the girl the opportunity to wear the dress she always wanted even in the old as fuck mats entry
Shame on you.
>she does wear a wedding dress
Are you referring to her marriage to Guinevere? Cause she's the husband in that one.
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>Altera is a nigger

Well, that explains why she's the worst fate girl.
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>>166629917
>allegedly
GAS THE TYPES

INTERPLANETARY WAR NOW
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>>166629973
Cu's teacher
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>>166629905
Kohakus route is definitely the finale, where they touch on important things and close it
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>>166630004
Nice try nerodrone. Septem never forget.
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>>166630004
You take that back faggot
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>>166629917
>allegedly
GAS THE TYPES

INTERPLANETARY WAR NOW
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>>166629973
Cu's teacher
She has big tits and is in a skintight bodysuit
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>>166630027
>Wars between Types
Jupiter would win so fast.
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>>166629973
A walking power level discussion
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>>166629973
>Who the hell is Scathach?
Another character sakurai can't help but wank
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>>166630070
>Implying
Spider or bust, Jupiter's a shitter who got cut in half by Ado Edem
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>WE WUZ LIST
Darius III
All Egyptians Pharaohs, even Iskandar, Ptolemy, and Cleopatra
Solomon
Attila the Hun (also the Velber)
Emiya Shirou
Archimedes surely with that hair
Arash
Angry Manjew
Lancelot
Shirou Amakusa
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>>166630032
>teacher of the greatest jobber to ever live in Fate history
Cu, your teacher clearly sucks.

Was this one of those "student surpassed the master" situations so common in stories, meaning that Cu is actually not the biggest loser in Fate history?
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colony drop now
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>>166629905
Kohakus route is definitely the finale, where they touch on important things and close it

>>166630027
Holy grail war now
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>>166630109
Stop falseflagging and fuck off retard, a real we wuz would have said Shakespeare and Mozart.
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>>166630109
>that hair
Maybe Archie's a Jew.
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>>166630109
Fuck I forgot based Arjuna
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>>166630104
To be fair, Ado Edem could probably kill every Type. He took down another one but I forgot which.
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>>166630140
Even the most OP Cu is unable to kill her, so nope.
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>>166630002
I didn't deny it, Nasu did.
>Are you referring to her marriage to Guinevere?
No, Casters rape dungeon.
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>>166627816
Off the top of my head:
Iskander
Jeanne + Alter
Scathach
Enkidu
EMIYA
Tamamo
And pretty much all the Seibafaces are the 'top tier' in popularity.

After them you have the popular (but not Gil/Enkidu tier) fujobait like Arjuna/Dantes/Karna/Ozymandias, the usual waifubait like Mary/Kiyohime/Raikou/Shuten, and regularly popular characters such as Gintoki and Nobu.

>>166630140
Cu surpassed her but she's immortal so she spent the next millenia or so training and is now way ahead of him again.

She's likely the strongest Celtic hero.
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>>166630217
You mean the new slash emperor Nero
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Am I the only one who thinks Nameless is the most fun to play in Extella?

His moveset really feels like they got Archer down just right and his Caladbolg, while not the best thing to use half the time, feels really satisfying.
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>>166630217
I think it was Saturn
But why we have no info on Type Mars?
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>>166630070
> Not ORT

Solo's.

>>166630217
He'd lose instantly against the GOAT ORT
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>>166630284
>Caladbolg, while not the best thing to use half the time
Excuse me nigga that move clean house how is it not the best?

Also yes nameless is the best
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>>166629518
I suddenly got really depressed when I heard this. It reminded me I was reading Tsukihime when my cat died.
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>>166630238
Does she still job all the time like her student?
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>>166630284
Cu's third combo is more satisfying at high levels.

But Archer's pretty fun.

Has a nice mix of his lore stuff and some wank stuff, it's a good mix-up.
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>>166630217
I think it was Saturn

He killed Jupiter
Venus died some other way and was being used as a city
Pluto was destroyed by some witches before it even hit the atmosphere
Though ORT was noted as being the strongest and Nasu hinted at Edem maybe not being able to kill him

Unfortunately Notes' setting will be lost to time and Nasu will never give it the full story he wanted to
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>1 event revival for 2 weeks

Meanwhile in a typical week for a game that isn't dead:
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>>166629960
Well I'm talking about the mats not the game play. So basically Astolfo's lance is not an np anymore according to fgo mats. We see it used in game play but it is like Iskandar's Sword of Kupriotes, its a weapon now not an np

Iskandar's Lightning conqueror was not mentioned in the mats, So we can tell that skill is meant to be for gameplay purposes
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>>166630431
Yes.
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>>166630228
>Nasu did
He didn't (that's why this mats entry exists), but retarded fans looking for retcons everywhere did.
>Casters rape dungeon
It's not explicitly a wedding dress. And naturally I meant the one on which a figure was based on.
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>>166630431
No, she gets wanked by everyone instead and only ever loses because 'she didn't want to win'
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>>166630493
>>166630525
>replying to bait
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>>166630476
If it's all within a week, it's a bit much. Truly grindfest for unemployed.

Not that no content like us is good.
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>>166630476
Think of all the love and care that is put into one FGO update though
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Guys I think I may have met Nasu in person last month without realising it.
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>>166630460
Notes is nothing but a doujin he doesn't care about.
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>>166630624
Giant mushroom in the street ?
Or is she a saberface ?
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>>166630624
What if I'm Nasu and nobody knows it?
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>>166630484
>Astolfo's lance is not an np anymore
It's not a NP in Apocrypha either.
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>>166630564
It's a far, far less time consuming game than F/GO.
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>>166630070
>not Sol Invictus
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>>166630497
The mat entry is over a decade old and now we have new material saying that what it depicted never happened ever.
It's been retconned, deal with it.
>It's not explicitly a wedding dress.
It's outright called a wedding dress.
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>>166630476
Is that Yasuda art? The tits aren't looking quite as anti-gravity as usual.
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>>166630624
Guys I think I might be Nasu in the flesh and I didn't know it.
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>>166630625
A real shame.
The will of planets within our solar system coming together and contributing their greatest creations for the sake of Earths dying wish and disrupting a civil war between native inhabitants who are no longer even human after so much genetic engineering is a fun premise.
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>>166630618
>love and care
>two reruns no one asked for back to back
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Will she ahegao him so hard that he'll be able to see Sita again, lads?
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>>166630809
Agreed.
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>>166630809
Seems kinda impossible now anyways.

Killing humanity ends timelines and no planet or type would want their timeline to end, I think they all just need to put up with humans being things now that the Extella retcons have hit in.
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http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/154787104005/fateextella-the-umbral-star-localization-blog
here's a link to XSEED's official Tumblr page on Extella. I feel like it shows fairly well the amount of thought and creativity that goes into a successful localization, which those simply fixated on "accuracy" would never realize.A translation is always and inevitably a somewhat different work then the original. Real translators accept and work with that fact.

It's important to remember that, especially for the general casual audience (which I imagine Extella is mostly aimed at), there's far more important aspects of translation then mere textbook accuracy.
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>>166630736
It's a danmachi parody, but not real Yasuda.
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>>166630956
Not this copypasta again-

We were having a comfy thread, fuck off.
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>>166630947
Just let it exist within the Tsukiverse then.
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>>166630484
Lightning conqueror isn't in the mats?
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>>166630956
Waiter, my pasta is stale
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>>166630675
Was in a bar in Shinjuku with a friend on a Friday night, and a bunch of salarymen and their boss were getting wasted there too. I ended up talking to them a bunch after one of them recognised my English accent and started asking me about back home.

Ended up mentioning I do freelance translation work on the side sometimes, got the linkedin of one of the guys and gave them mine in case they ever were looking for that sorta thing (desu though I could tell they were just being polite), and shot the breeze with 'em all night.

I just checked the profile today out of curiosity and the dude straight up fucking works for TM. I think the boss with them that night might have been either Nasu or Takeuchi.
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>>166630710
>what it depicted never happened ever
Medusa was always the one protecting Stheno and Euryale. I have a feeling that killing warriors coming to Shapeless Island while wearing a dress would a be a bit troublesome. So in this mats entry she wears a dress like her sisters instead of her battle gear.
>wedding dress
>no veil
Nice try. And I already mentioned that I meant this one.
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>>166631052
> Nasu and Takeuchi
> Getting wasted

They're chuuni neets, their boss was probably just a department head, not the big two
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>>166631052
It was probably Takeuchi. He mentioned his favourite bar is in Shinjuku on twitter a while ago.
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>>166631052
>Nasu isn't a neet but a salary boss.
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>>166631059
You are completely missing the point. The old mat entry was "this is what Medusa looked like and what she wore as a child". This has now been retconned since Ana is what she looked like and they go out of their way to say she never wore that dress. This is very, very simple.
>wedding dress
>no veil
Now you're just being autistic.
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>>166631026
That could work, I'm not done the game yet because I'm the anon with a broken controller

But aren't universes that didn't have an exceptionally strong human going out "eventually"? Notes could very well survive in one of them if it ever did get a resurrection.

Granted I doubt it will ever happen, I consider CCC getting a localization more likely than a Notes story coming back
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>>166629192
What is Gudako making the book do?
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>>166631127
No, he was tweeting about liking some bar in Shinjuku. He never said it was his favourite.
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>>166631052
Wew lad, if you play your cards right you could meet this guy and maybe Nasu again.
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>>166631026
That works. But wouldn't Tsukifags get mad their waifu Arc died?

>>166630947
For the best, now they are counting humans to kick out ayyliens who came to the wrong neighborhood.
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>>166630993
I see. No wonder I thought it looked really good for Yasuda.
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>>166631178
It seems she sacrified Jack and now Nursery.
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>>166631052
Try go out drinking with him again and get him to hook you up with Nasu

Then get a meeting with Nasu and tell him what the western fans think of him and Typemoon
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>>166631284
When did she kill Jack?
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>>166631162
>Notes could very well survive in one of them if it ever did get a resurrection.
I mean with Ado Edem around I imagine both races of liners can survive. There are really no humans left in Notes other than Gun God.

Now that I think about it? Some Types are capable of human speech. Maybe they should try negotiating. TM was always super sketchy and clearly in it for his own ambitions.
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>>166631178
Making a new friend
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>>166630947
It's not just Extella. You know the concept of the anthropic principle is very old. Nasu incorporated it beyond lel Zelretch meme who is forgotten. As for how did humans got to be the observers? Look at Chaldea replica of Earth, and before that, look at Solomon's replica of the universe.

Humans warping everything on their view was always a latent thing. Nasu explored how it works recently and gave it an origin.
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>>166631036
Yes it wasn't there, all the skills there were his skills in fate zero. Divinity, Charisma, Military, Riding, MR. It was possibly added for a third skill for gameplay.
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>>166631221
>now they are counting humans to kick out ayyliens who came to the wrong neighborhood.
I just hate how it's never actual living humans taking care of their own problems. It's always heroes who have been dead for centuries coming back to save the day. It really takes out the glory in how awesome humanity supposedly is when current humanity can never do anything themselves.
>>
Jeanne Alter thread.
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>>166631368
Then Tamamo's Fox Wedding was excluded from Mats II too?
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>>166631307
From my bad reading, nursery ask to come back with Jack after seeing it. Guda answers that Jack come earlier.
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>>166631492
>Jack and NR were fed to it
>Jeanne is the only loli left
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>>166631492
Brutal
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>>166631374
Vast majority of humanity are powerless fucks whose only strength is numbers, and rely on that one exceptional fellow to see them through.
Just like real life.
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>>166631456
For Tamamo, Fox wedding is included in the mats.
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>Dantes and Scathach's interludes take place after Time Temple

Wait, I don't understand, how does this happen when the only Servant in Chaldea is Mashu? Canonically you never had Servants walking around in Chaldea, only their Saint Graph info.
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>>166629192
Why have the GO comics become Riyos fanfic story anyway
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>>166631541
>3 boxes in the room before book got box'd

Guess who the tow other 2 boxes are from
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>>166631610
>only Servant in Chaldea is Mashu? Canonically you never had Servants walking around in Chaldea, only their Saint Graph info.
That's completely wrong
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>>166631610
Pay attention to what Da Vinci says.
Mashu stays, and so do a ragtag of Servants who just can't leave you alone (the ones you rolled).
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>>166631374
>It's always heroes who have been dead for centuries coming back to save the day.

But they are the best for the job, anon. That's why they were recognized by the human order.

Plus, some were alive. Roman might have been Solomon, but he was another person with a new life. Merlin is alive. Mashu did a lot for a living person and was recognized as a hero with her deployed NP now working to protect the human order as her desire was "I want to see the future of humanity", inspired by Roman's lessons and nurtured by the adventures she lived.

Arturia too might be alive.
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>>166631374
The people commanding these ancient heroes are usually living modern people though. See: Fate Grand Order.
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>>166631594
Maybe it has something to do with the writers, as Nasu works half the time on F/GO while Butcher only did Accel Zero
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>>166631610
I don't know shit about saint graph info but all the Servants who like you stay in Chaldea after you murder Goetia.
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>>166631612
Because TM editors greenlit it.
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>>166631610
?
When does it even say in the story is after time temple.
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>>166631698
TM has editors? Since when?
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>>166630004
Altera is objectively the best girl. She is the perfect Daughteru and nothing can change that.
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>>166631612
Takeuchi likes it
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>>166631658
They already mention you can't summon Servants into Chaldea because of the whole human history incineration thing. Why else would Roman be concerned for Da Vinci getting killed?

>>166631662
>reddit translation
Not reliable proof.
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So Liz can canonically shoot giant love hearts that do damage to enemy servants by winking

A true hero kills with their eyes indeed.
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>>166631610
Some servants did stay, most of them left. So basically who ever can still pop up and say they never left and the rest can still pop up because their saint graph data.
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>>166631610
Canonically you didn't have Servants before either, but that never stopped the interludes from taking place in Chaldea.
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>>166631492
Who will save servants from Gudako menace?
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>>166631612
It's not like there's anything left to explain
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>>166631732
I want to protect her smile
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>>166631792
Well, the event reruns are worth-complaining unless DW force Riyo to not badmouth it.
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>Liz starts appearing in the lancer slot more and more
You can spot who's playing Extella here
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>>166631741
>They already mention you can't summon Servants into Chaldea because of the whole human history incineration thing. Why else would Roman be concerned for Da Vinci getting killed?
Reddit translation
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>>166631840
But I'm playing Extella and I still think Liz is a shit
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>>166631571
Okay but nothing gets the masses moving up off of their average asses like the threat of ayylmao's coming to bring about an apocalypse. Last minute technological breakthroughs and cooperation always prevail. Tis the rule of Sci-fi. I don't hate the idea of heroic spirits overcoming the likes of demons like Tiamat or Goetia but Ayylmaos I feel humanity can handle on their own because that's no longer really magical beings anymore that need to be fought off soley with magic and myth.
>inb4 TM has always featured fending off aliens with magic since Zelretch
Yes, yes I know but hey at least he was alive and got the job done. No heroic spirits needed there.
>>166631665
You're still relying on the strength and abilities of heroic spirits. They're the ones doing pretty much all the REAL work at the end of the day.
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>>166631732
When will she be part of the loli troop?
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>>166631843
>Riyo and autistic Gudako crossover
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I wish Scathach would have disappeared instead of Roman. At least that would cease her whining.
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>>166631843
Is that from the artist who draws the mentally challenged gudako comics?
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>>166631840
Nice.
I will finally be able to make some room in my friendlist and delete all the faggots with low taste.
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>SUMMONING SERVANTS ISN'T CANON discussion yet again
>it's mentioned four or five times in story, yet people gotta act like they know shit and say
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>>166631879
Match made in heaven
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>>166631862
Heroic spirits are the tools of modern humanity, like nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers.
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>>166631840
More like you can spot who has shit taste
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>>166631909
EOP waifufags keep insisting summoning Servants is canon, it's pathetic, yeah.
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Is the Cu animation update here yet?
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>>166631923
>aircraft carriers.
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>>166631741
>They already mention you can't summon Servants into Chaldea because of the whole human history incineration thing. Why else would Roman be concerned for Da Vinci getting killed?

The fuck you get this from? Kintoki even reishifts from chowder in he's interlude and he's canonically summoned in chowder.
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>>166631917
I'm disappointed these stopped being posted and translated
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>>166630238
>Cu surpassed her
Not anymore he didn't. Her materials say that she doesn't even really think he can kill her, just that it's something she'd like to happen, and that it took Cu plus all her other students at once to even try to beat her, which they didn't.
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>>166631909
I hate autopost

Geronimo mentions summoning servants to fight karna
Roman mentions at the end of camelot that your contracts updated, and be diverse wad added to your servants
Holmes mentions chaldea is a dorm where a bunch of servants all hang out now
Jekyll mentions it briefly in london, in fate zero event there's an entire plot line around hoe it works

But nope, the story itself isn't canon I guess. Every tm thread is "why are we having this dis cussing again?"
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>>166631881
>Mashu finally dead
>she come back shortly after

JUST
When will this annoying piece of shit stain go away forever?
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>>166631670
Well at this point it's a concept idea, It may get added to his profile, but right now there is nothing about it, Not even in extella was it mentioned.
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>>166631741
>Why else would Roman be concerned for Da Vinci getting killed?
Gee I don't know, maybe he likes her and doesn't feel like summoning another her that would not have the memories of the times they spent together?
Not to mention the gacha rates seem to apply to the actual world, when he says Chaldea has only ever managed to roll 4 Servants. Guessing all the other tries were shitty CEs.
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>>166631862
Did you fucking forget this? The Heroic Spirits would have been useless if there weren't three living people leading the way. A Master, (you), Mashu who became a new hero, and Roman, who was formerly Solomon, but he became a living human without powers and was the leader of everybody and got the job done. Even Lev said so. Sure the Heroic Spirits followed their lead, but it was their battle. So the three are the ones confronting Goetia in the end.
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>>166632015
Why does autocorrext keep changing Bedivere to "diverse"? It doesn't even fix typos half the time, but with this it jumps right in.
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>>166632063
Just stop phone posting.
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>>166631909
Maybe someone is butthurt because event are canon
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>>166632041
>3 Servants.
But to be fair, they were all limited SSR and two are so exclusive nobody else rolled them.

Maybe Mauricebilly burned the shitters.
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>>166632015

>Geronimo mentions summoning servants to fight karna
Summoned from Saint Graph info, not Chaldea

>Roman mentions at the end of camelot that your contracts updated, and be diverse wad added to your servants
Saint Graph info. Also, Reddit ""translation"".

>Holmes mentions chaldea is a dorm where a bunch of servants all hang out now
He was being metaphorical.

>Jekyll mentions it briefly in london, in fate zero event there's an entire plot line around hoe it works
Fate Zero isn't canon.
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>>166632063
Blame the SJWs
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>>166632103
Can't sleep anyway at the moment with roommate snoring.
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>>166632162
At least your roommate isn't loudly fucking.
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>>166632185
Maybe you should try joining him instead of shitposting here?
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>>166632210
I'm speaking from prior experience, it's not happening right now

I'm also not gay
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>>166632015
>Roman mentions at the end of camelot that your contracts updated, and be diverse wad added to your servants

Not your contracts, Roman said that a new hero was added to the throne of hero and mashu was glad that beddy was recognized as a heroic spirit.
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Is there a character more unlikable than Scat?
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>>166632185
Had a roommate who owned a sex doll once. Doll's hair was made up like Saber's. Wasn't shy about it, that man.
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>>166630238
If it's the strongest celtic hero, that should go to Fionn, but idk how strong Scat really is in this universe.
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>>166632245
Cursed arm hassan is pretty hard to like
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>>166632250
Kek
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>>166632273
But he's my bro.
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>>166632273
I don't particularly like him but that's a weird choice
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>>166632273
What a shit taste
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>>166632245
Me
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Friendly reminder that everything I don't like isn't canon.
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>>166632119
I see it now.
He wished for great wealth to make up for what he whaled to get Solomon.
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>>166632273
This is the worst taste in the thread
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>>166632319
Am I canon?
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>>166632334
You're Medb's master in my canon.
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>>166632245
Astolfo. He's only started to become tolerated but just wait til we get all the loud secondary trapfags from the Apocrypha anime. God help us all.
>>166632273
How do people develop taste this bad?
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>>166632143
*farts*
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>>166632245
Deermud
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>>166632334
No, but I don't like Heaven's Feel as much as the other routes, so it's non-canon crap.
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>>166632319
Friendly reminder that the materials are only canon until somebody at Type-Moon changes their mind.
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>>166632253
She's definitely the strongest human celtic hero so far. Balor, Lugh or Nuada should be stronger overall but Scathach also has a higher saint graph than her current one.
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>>166632360
>secondaries
>when they will actually experience the character instead of prematurely judging him
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>>166632245
Nero
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Liz was a mistake
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>>166632273
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>>166632404
>Wanting "fans" who decide that Astolfo is transgender and ignore any canon that states otherwise
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>>166632360
Scat made a threw a bitchfit after the planet was saved because she didn't die. And was super cunt and selfish about her own personal problems, hating history was restored. If I were Guda, I would wish a Grail for her to fucking die and get the fuck out existence.
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The number of people not logging in for days is slowly growing
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>>166632404
Trapfag ate everything including shit as long they have dick and look girly
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http://poal.me/syvmvz

http://poal.me/syvmvz

http://poal.me/syvmvz

Lets do it
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>>166632468
She's just lonely because Cu isn't giving her a good dicking.
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>>166632371
Diarmuid has too little personality,screentime, really anything to hate or even dislike the guy.
He has like no presence whatsoever.
>>166632404
>when they will actually experience the character instead of prematurely judging him
And most of 4chan will probably think the exact same thing the majority of us have been thinking for 2 years now,
"Why is he so obnoxious and what does he even contribute?"
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>>166632487
>I only befriend new-whales and obsessive nips that are almost always playing or a couple of hours behind

Kinda worried about them.
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>>166632456
>that bad feels when SJWcucks and LGBTabcdefgh are going to spam threads saying that astolfo is /theirguy/ and is a trans
Wew
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>>166632506
Fixed your poll.
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>>166632557
It'll be that one fucker from dinglerumpus again.
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>>166632468
>And was super cunt and selfish about her own personal problems
Sound like Andersen
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>>166632529
>Why is he so obnoxious
Is he your first genki character?
>what does he even contribute
He's the main reason Shlomo's Adam didn't wreck the Black team and Mordred.
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> Sieg once again getting all this hate from people who've probably only ever read summaries of Apoc and don't know shit about his personality

Whew lads.
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>>166632468
Her personality is of a huge entitled and self-centered cunt. They mostly have her personalityless because she's really a huge bitch. She's supposed to resemble an adult Misaya to the extreme and Misaya is a cunt too.
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>>166632630
Can't wait for the first and only male 5* saber to btfo fgog
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>>166632468
Are you serious? Did she actually do that? After all the death, pain, and LITERAL sacrifice Guda and company had to go through with very little help from her mind you.
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>>166632245
Liz
Crooked clown
The pre-pubescent sneks
Kiyohime
Diarmuid
Astolfo
Onishits
Round Table (except Bedivere, she's cool)
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>>166632456
Just like persona 4 "fans" with kanji and Naoto. Also dangan fans with that one trap.

People read into it what they want, and convienently ignore if there was anything else to the story or character arc. Such as Naoto realizing that she only wanted to be seen as an adult and dressed as a guy since she was childish and didn't think she'd be taken seriously. Dangan trap was made fun of for being a girl all his life, decided "okay then, people shit on me for this all the time, I'll just be a girl like they say, maybe then I'd be happy", he wasn't happy, he was living a lie, realized he just wanted to be seen as a guy all along. Then he sought help to be more of a man the natural way from a gangster, started working out. Ironically turned out to be more manly than the gangster at the very end.
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>>166632617
Andersen didn't trap you in a dream to throw a bitchfit.

She was also an useless piece of shit jobber in the Order who contributed nothing to the story or to save people. Andersen was more useful than she ever was with his help in London.
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>>166632630
Sieg's personality is fine, a little bland but still likeable. It's what the story does with him that makes people hate him.
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>>166632692
She helped a lot in America. Gave advice and shit.
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>>166632630
>Seig
>""personality""

Confirmed never read Apoc.
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You can say whatever the fuck about Astolfo, but D'Eon is canonically gender fluid, you shitlords.
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>>166632704
> Liz
> Worse than Scat

She's not the most likeable girl around but at least she has a well-rounded personality and doesn't just whine about wanting to die all the time

Also

> Round Table

Awakening the Gawain fags, I see.
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>>166632764
D'Eon's also an irrelevant faggot
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>>166632692
I don't know what you mean, she was part of almost every team during the final battle. Saber pillar exempted, of course.
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>>166632713
I give it a 50/50 chance between them latching on to Astolfo as an icon for trans people in anime, or hating him for being transphobic somehow.
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>>166632621
>He's the main reason Shlomo's Adam didn't wreck the Black team and Mordred.
Why,isn't that a good thing if he can kill Sieg once and for all?
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>>166632713
Nah, those are just yaoifags who dislike the canon Kanji x Naoto ship.

>>166632742
He's actually far less annoying than Shirou.
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>>166632692
Yes, I was close burning her because of that interlude. Forget the Cu flirting and cuck meme, she's a piece of shit without tact or timing.
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>>166632791
And you are a fucking bigot, set yourself on fire.
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>>166632746

He has a solid personality. From starting off with the existential crisis that is being born as nothing but fuel for the on-going war, to standing up for his fellow homunculus.

He's the entire reason the fat fuck ends up actually being kind of passably likeable by the end.
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>>166632630
This so much. This is how you know the majority of /fgog/ are redditors, instead of reading things and making their opinions by themselves they just repeat what they read on the thread like sheeps. Absolutely disgusting.
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>>166632849
Sorry I'm not a mentally unstable tranny who'll regret his decision in 10 years and want to kill myself
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pill me up on Count of Monte Cristo

what's the main gist?
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>>166632495
I enjoyed traps before, and I can tell you this is wrong. They're a finicky anal bunch who hates anything that deviates from the only correct way to view things, and almost every thread deviates into RP bullshit or IRL bullshit.

I hate those fans so much. I don't know when it switched over from niche shit talking about Jun or bridget, to drama whores taking over every thread thinking this shit should be real. Soon as you're talking 3d you're shit.
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>Apoc anime isn't even out yet
>shilling has already started
wew lads
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>>166632621
>Is he your first genki character?
Of course not but there are plenty who aren't anywhere as obnoxious.
And by contribution I mean as a character. What does he bring to the story that's actually interesting? That being said most of the characters in Apocrypha were lackluster, even Karna was inferior to his CCC counterpart. I guess Amakusa, Mordred, and Vlad were cool. Horsecock and cripple also had their moments.
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>>166632746
Hey now, Sieg concept is actually good. But the execution and random power ups and asspulls were far too many to be likable.
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>people defending Sieg

This general is so fucking shit. I bet you retards rate Apocrypha. How fucking stupid can you be?
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>>166632834
Kanji X Naoto is shit.
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>there are people who will defend Sieg

Sieg is just Shirou executed extremely poorly.
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>>166632834
I'll give you that, but he's also less interesting. Shirou develops and you see more of him, he grows and changes according to which route you're on. Sieg only develops a tiny bit from "I want to live" to "I want the other homunculi to live too" and that's basically it. He's less aggravating than Shirou can be, but much less interesting.

>>166632904
Things go well for some dick in France, his dick friends screw him over and he goes to superjail, he meets a priest and gets superpowered will in jail, escapes, finds a shitload of money, and proceeds to enact elaborate revenge on his shitty friends.
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>>166632972
Apocrypha is literally the best Fate that Nasu has ever written.
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>>166633008
French Sweeny Todd?
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>>166633001
Apoc is just Higashide attempting to rewrite Fate route, again.
>Sieg is Shirou
>Jeanne is Saber
>Astolfo is Rin
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>>166632904
He's the most famous revenge story? Edmond Dantes, a guy whose future (including his wife and freedom) was stolen by three people he knew to advanced their careers, falsely sent to a hellish prison to rot. He escaped and plots revenge decades later, finding a treasure and gaining political connections. He planned to destroy the three men's lives utterly after becoming a member of their circle. The only one who recognized him was the one who was going to be his wife, Mercedes, who married one of those men (she waited for years and was given a false letter he died in prison so she would marry her cousin).
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>>166632945
Karna was inferior because it was Higashide trying to emulate Nasu. CCC Karna is better because it's actually Nasu.
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>>166633015
Shit bait.
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Will we ever get a normal 7 servants deathmatch style HGW again?
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>>166632972
T. Someone whose never read Apocrypha and relied on summaries to get by

>>166633001
I found him far more bearable than Shirou to be honest. I mean he doesn't have as much development but he's pretty likeable at times.
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>>166632893
>btfoing someone this hard
He wont recover
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Is Nasu a modern day Shakespeare?
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>>166633121
You wish I didn't.
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>>166633137
Is Nasu a modern day Andersen?
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>>166633137
Better, Shakes is a hack.
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>>166633137
>Nasu
>black
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>>166632904
Three buds want to get their hands on some money, so they decide to frame a poor nigga.
This nigga has a beautiful wife that one of the bros want, so they frame the crime on him, send him to the worst prison in france with one of thems mad lawyer skills and steal the babe.
In prison he meets this dude who, SIKE, not only knows the way out but has the location of even more treasure. Hopeman breaks out, gets treasure and plots revenge.
He exposes the lawyer as a crock, MC ride presents him to the gullotine.
Ruins the banker bro's fortunes with signal fires, he commits suicide.
All that's left is the army captain that stole his wife, but surprise, they have a son now! So he goes and tries to get the kid killed in a duel, pussies out, then stabs the bro with a rapier.
Of course, killing the lady's husband puts him in her bad books, so he gets all depressed and thinks "was it worth it." Then he's nice to his wife's son for some reason.

6/10, better than Dickens.
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>>166633089
> Inferior

I think he had a ton of fun moments though. His rivalry with Siegfried, his acceptance of how things ended, how he straight up called Semi on her bullshit. I just wish they kept in him laser-eyeing down the jets because that'd have been fucking hilarious.
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>>166633137
Even among chinese cartoon writers, he's bottom tier.
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>>166633103
But what about the
>m-muh Fate was never about the grail war
bullshit that retards keep repeating all the time?
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>>166633056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHYOnP5WymI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZzxmBDE4sI&t=32s

This explains the plot of Monte Cristo (IN SPACE)!
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>>166633137
Not even an actual writer.
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>>166633103
No.
Strange fake of all things is the closest thing we currently have to a normal HGW.
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>>166633103
Fragments?
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>>166633103
Nope, the best you're ever going to get is eight. TN knows that Ruler prints money.
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So we've gone past world ending disasters now, what's next for Fate?

Lovecraftian monstrosities attempting to devour reality?
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>>166633137

Nasu's a literal hack.

> Relies on characters whose development has already been completed in other works
> Writes them blandly as fuck to fit his setting and purple prose's battle scenes that literally work on rock paper scissor logic with more fancy terms to make it seem 'awesome' and 'intense'
> His oc's are all either the same character, or atrocious
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>There are people who fell for the Earl of Oxford's lies
Shakespeare was a true (asshole) writer .
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>>166633208
There no normal Grail War since Manjew start shitting himself in Grail
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>>166633267
It's just going to be world ending disasters, again.
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>>166633267
Servant marriages and cute Lovecraftian monstrosities that devour your dick.
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>>166600862

So humans are the chief observers of the universe? What about ayylmaos?
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>>166633267
I wish. Lovecraftian shit can't work in fate though because it relies on mankind out-doing everything while lovecraftian works rely on the logic that mankind is nothing before the true madness of the universe.

That's the difference between a hero story and an existential horror.
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>>166633208
>muh grail war
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>>166633137
Nasu's a literary genius. You'd be surprised that the main reason even the japs stayed for fate (they came for saber ofc) was because of Nasu's writing style and worldbuilding.
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>>166633256
Something something Beast shit.
And all the Master die in 3 seconds except Manaka and Elsa.
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>>166633208
I see people bitching about a normal grail war lately usually at the same time rotkfag is on. I think what people say in response to " I just want a normal grail war without any twists or surprises or anything, just fights without plot armor or anything ever in the way" is

>war
>normal

This isn't one on one death matches of honor, of course there are twists. Of course there has to be a main character.
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>>166633286
>oh in this timeline manjew didn't do it
Problem solved.
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>>166633056
Less psychos and cannibalism and more political intrigue.
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>>166633103
Kek fuck no.

You wouldn't want it either. Most grail wars are just average servants fighting average battles while meh magus sit there and watch.
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A regular grail war would be boring as fuck

It'd be an even more bland Extra. All the best stuff in Fate is when something goes wrong
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>>166633176
Higashide couldn't write around him being able to laser eye the jets so he came up with a bullshit excuse and cut it.

And inferior isn't by any means bad. CCC Karna is fantastic, Apoc Karna isn't as good but still very good.
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>>166633331
Kawahara Reki's a literary genius. You'd be surprised that the main reason even the japs stayed for Sao (they came for Asuna ofc) was because of Reki's writing style and worldbuilding.
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>>166633364
Then you'd be talking about apoc time line, where shit still fucked up. Grail wars are meant to fuck up, it's like that line at the end of fsn.
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>>166633208
>>166633103
When someone writes Chaldea backstory and covers how Solomon BTFO the other Servants while Olga's dad gave him the dick.
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>>166633363
You can have twists and a main character without the war devolving into a team up against a new threat that's trying to take over the world.

People want a Grail War where 7 masters and Servants try their best to kill each other and that actually ends with one master left alive who then makes their wish.
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>>166633313
>What about ayylmaos?
HA.
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>>166633442
>who then makes their wish.
You missed the point of fate
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>>166633438
Apoc timeline and Grand Order timeline. Really Solomon is the only fucking Servant who got a wish on this shit.
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>>166633438
>on in this timeline manjew didn't do it and amakusa didnt do it something else happened in the third war
The answer to any possible issue with a setting in Typemoon is "different timeline"
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>>166633345
Beast is non-factor in the story.
> all the Master die in 3 seconds
Right that's how deathmatch is supposed to go.
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>>166633320
You can combine them like Lumley did, which then later inspired Haganeya.
Fate+Lovecraft is basically Demonbane.
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>>166633492
The point of Fate has been done to death and everyones sick of it.
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>>166633478
>ayylmaos build a supercomputer that observes humanity

>Not the chief observers
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>>166633492
And you missed the fact that nobody cares about "the point of fate". People picked the VN up because of the premise so it's absolutely clear that people wanted to read about it.
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>>166633558
>ayylmaos build a supercomputer that observes humanity
>Humans decide "I want that" and kill the ayylmaos
wew
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>>166633492
Wishes like "I want my Servant to have a real, physical, dickable body" or "I want to reach the Archives, Swirl of the Root etc" are canonically foolproof. The only reason that it hasn't happened is because most HGWs had no winners and the ones who did win had shitty wishes.
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>>166633558
>ayylmaos die out
>literally no one cares
>humans die out
>universe can't take it and implodes
>humans are somehow not the chief observers
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>>166633558
Entire universes collapse when humanity fails.
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>>166633558
supercomputer decides to cave in human's choices.

and anyway, ayylmaos didn't build a replica of the fucking universe as solomon did. that was what seemed to give humans the edge. goetia was going to perform some weird shit to warp the real universe to his view when he became the new earth.
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Where did this whole "the universe dies if humanity does" thing come from? They're always talking about the solar system, never the universe.
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>>166633737
>They're always talking about the solar system, never the universe.
No they weren't.
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If Kaleidoscope also is time travel magic, then what does Aoko's Magic do?
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>>166633807
>Kaleidoscope also is time travel magic
It isn't.
t. Rin
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>nips can't into ayylmaos
Why are you people surprised that Nasu is terrible at portraying them in a way that doesn't involve jobbing?
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>>166633635
So what's the DAA's masterplan? Crashing this universe with no survivors?

What about Gaia's masterplan in Notes? Still the same? If so, why are planets so stupid to oblige?
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>>166633807
Kaleidoscope is universe travel, not time travel.
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>>166633807
Aoko's fifth seems to be using history kind of like Goetia's incineration ritual but on a vastly lesser scale.

Also the magics seem to have been powercrept. Are they going to be a thing after 2017 with Science getting more and more ridiculous?
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>>166633851
Universes dying when humanity does wasn't a concept back when DAA's and Notes were relevant.

We aren't exactly talking about a setting with the construction of Tolkeins here, Nasu is making this shit up on the spot.
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>>166633851
Tsukiverse is most likely different with far less horrendous destinies awaiting helpless ayylmaos who don't even know humans fucking exist.
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>>166633807
It's not just about time travel, it's also about making the universe shoulder the weight of a past with no future, or something along these lines
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>>166633851
DAA's as an existence reject humanity, quantum locking their universe by imploding humanity is basically the NUMBAH 1 outcome for them.
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>>166632764
People actually made bets about D'Éon being a man or a woman during his life and had to wait for the autopsy to get some truth.

The entire point of D'Éon as a legend is the mystery of (historically) his gender. So, in FGO, he's not genderfluid as much as he's both he and she at the same time. Kinda like a Schrödinger's cat of gender, and can comepletely become either man or woman depending on the situation (and maybe what the Master wants).
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>>166633847
>>166633856
It's based on time, not actual dimension travel, but modifying one event which creates a parallel dimension. That's pretty much the gist according to Mahoyo.
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>>166633851
The worlds are different because the human order is weak there, so the atrophic principle may not be a thing.
DAA aren't allowed to even get as powerful in Fate Setting. On the other hand Heroic Spirits cannot manifest as Servants in Tsukihime. So you get the gist Nasu wants to stop the powerlevel fags for asking retard questions every time he gets a FAQ.

Gaia in Fate seems to be a Camelotfag.
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>>166633175
I don't think we read the same book.
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>>166633851
> If so, why are planets so stupid to oblige?

If Humanity has no threats, the universe gets quantum locked, but if it dies, the universe also gets quantum locked.

Essentially the planets are ensuring survival via conflict. By becoming mankind's enemy, by creating a threat, they keep the timeline continuing onwards.

They're basically a silent guardian.

A watchful protector.

A Dark Knight.
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>>166634045
>So you get the gist Nasu wants to stop the powerlevel fags for asking retard questions every time he gets a FAQ.
Nasu outright banned powerlevel questions like a decade ago.
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>>166633794
But they are. The explanation in the beginning of Altera's route specifies that it's the solar system.
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>>166633610
>The only reason that it hasn't happened is because most HGWs had no winners and the ones who did win had shitty wishes.

Mauribilly told his Servant to get a new human life. He was attached to Solomon and didn't want to lose him. He also asked for money to finance Chaldea because he didn't give a shit about the Root.
>>
Since the game is as dead as it currently is, join the /fgog/ discord if you want to.

https://discordapp.com/invite/7wBdgEA
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>>166634072
>>166633960
>quantum locking

what did they mean by this?
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>>166634045
>Meanwhile Strange fake
We all know it was because Nasu didn't tell Narita shit but the justification is probably going to be something along the lines of,
"It's a world where both outcomes are plausible, eithe humanity fails entirely or Gaia prevails"
I feel that would be the best thing.
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>>166634072
Notes is basically the best possible outcome for all timelines.
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>>166632904
Guy is a sailor well on his way to be a captain at very young age.
Pisses off several people because envy, jealousy of his waifu and such. They engineer a plot to get him arrested as a cruel joke, but the letter ends up with the one prosecutor with an interest in burying anything related to Napoleon.
Gets imprisoned in Chateau D'If, hell on Earth, denied any appeal. Meanwhile his dad starves to death, his waifu is forced to marry her jelly cousin, and the prosecutor gets all rich and famous.
In prison, someone digs into his cell and he meets a priest that teaches him much with the location of pirate treasure. He escapes, finds treasure, reinvents himself as the Count of Monte Cristo, and goes on crazy revenge adventures.
And I do mean crazy, the guy verbally terrorizes the cousin once and he commits suicide, scares the fuck out of Morrell, one of his few friends, with a tirade about revenge, drives both the banker and the prosecutor insane (even though it wasn't his intention to go so far with the prosecutor's misery). In the end he decides that justice is best left to God to do, but not before revisiting the Chateau, acquiring the book that the priest wrote and upon rediscovering what a hellhole it was, decided that all those motherfuckers deserved it.
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>>166634078
He was still getting can "xxxx kill yyyyy" or stupid bullshit during the Type Moon Anniversary.
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>>166634132
>there aren't even humans left other than Godo
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>>166634106
>He also asked for money to finance Chaldea because he didn't give a shit about the Root.

He did, just not want to use the Grail for it
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>>166633851
Nasu wrote Notes ages ago and it was always a fucking doujin, anon. Stop being obtuse. I mean, sure he could implement the TYPES but they might be more interest to tell the Velber to FUCK OFF than fuck with humans.
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>>166634118
Timeline stops when there's no more threats or if humanity dies. Think of it like a 'game over' in a video game. It's finished, it's done, go do something else.
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>>166634116
God no. Fuck off.
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>>166634193
Liners count. Probably.
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>>166634124
Gil saw the past in Strange Fake when his C only works for the future. The Spooky Hassan who was so hyped was demoted to Shitter Status because Nasu introduced King Hassan.

There's no real indication there are DAA in Strange Fake, only some powerful vampires.
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>>166634214
>but they might be more interest to tell the Velber to FUCK OFF than fuck with humans.
I was actually hoping this would happen. It's definitely on my list of "unfufilled TM dreams", I always wondered if TYPES attacked foreign presence within their solar system. Kind of like attack dogs.
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>>166634216
I thought the universe would burn out without an observer. Or did I get that wrong?
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>>166634193
Liners at least have "humanity". That's enough for observing the universe, no?
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>>166634280
>The Spooky Hassan who was so hyped
Not really
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>>166634301
Archimedes explains it better than I do but essentially all the parallel worlds are connected by the principle that if humanity has zero threats/dies, it no longer has a purpose and should be locked as to not take up excess energy. This is done by the multiverse at will or something. We never see it happen so much as get told it happens.

That's why people say the timeline is 'pruned' in regards to the side-routes.
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>>166634072
>If Humanity has no threats, the universe gets quantum locked, but if it dies, the universe also gets quantum locked.
Exactly, Beasts are made for humanity to defeat and level up. But there's a scarier notion for the poor ayylmaos. Roman says that humanity's ultimate fulfilled existence is fucking off leaving no records (basically what he did). If all humans learn this trick, maybe the universe is gonna collapse behind the last transcending human.

It's like the proof that, even if painful, humans can let go of the world. It's the world that relies on them.
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>>166634401
Basically when they say "parallel world" they mean "story".
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>be an advanced ayylamo apart of some form of a galactic council
>Humans finally arrive over hundreds of years later than most races did
>their not anywhere as advanced or informed of the universe as all the other ayylamos
>discover your fate and universe literally relies on these inferior noobies for no particular reason
>somehow all the races that have existed in the universe for thousands of years weren't observing already until these hacks were conceived within the universe
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>>166634428
>yfw Nasu's endgame is to have all of humanity move into YHWH's plane Enoch-style
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>>166634297
We know Sefar also crushed ayyliens on Earth (and most common were on the Solar system). The Velber didn't just fuck with Earth. They picked a fight on their neighborhood.
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>>166634428
Each world is essentially an egg with humanity as it's inhabitant. If something goes wrong in the egg and humanity can't continue to grow or perishes, then humanity will never burst forth and thus the egg has lost it's function.

The end goal of each world is for humanity to leave it behind like an egg and to ascend to... Something.
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>>166634457
Literally Halo. Bravo Nasu.
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>>166634280
>Spooky Hassan who was so hyped
Because some expected him to be the first since he's obscure af. His kit is still interesting even if we don't know anything about his Zabaniya. He's definitely better than midget Hassan or new Hassans from Camelot.
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>>166634457
10/10 writing. Sasuga Nasu-sama.
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>>166634116
>unironically linking reddit's discord and thought it was /fgog/'s
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Maybe by reaching the root, the Magician (Solomon's God) created the universe?

That's why it revolves around humans. Because the universe was created by a human and he set the humans as observers.

Mahoyo was relevant after all.
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I'm confused about something now though.

Archimedes kept switching worlds because they're about to be quantum locked because no more threats, but he wanted to help velber kill humanity

But if he's aware humanity's death would Also lead to a quantum lock, then why's he so persistent on it?

He obviously acknowledges escaping quantum locks is important, so why's he pushing for it so hard?

Unless by absorbing civilization Sephyr can take on the role of humanity or something-
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>>166634457
We're the jews of the universe. The chosen ones.
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>>166634457
>universe literally relies on these inferior noobies
When has this been actually a thing?
Aliens don't even care about earth. Velber is just a small thing for them that isn't even that important and has attacked many other places aside from Earth.
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>>166634606
Because he got corrupted and that's what it wants him to do, kinda like been brainwashed or "reprogrammed" by a cult. You think it's the only option and you must do it but the reasoning behind it maybe nonexistent or makes no sense for others.
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>>166634598
Linking Mahoyo and Fate together, there's also the issue of the guy who attained the first Magic. He no longer exists but his trace still remains. Solomon?
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>>166634457
It probably has to do how Solomon's Grand Time Temple was outside time and outside real universe as nothing else has been before. That's why Goetia could also bend the universe and its laws by becoming the observer there. You know, that's where the atrophic principle began. Goetia was able to raze it without ending the universe because it shifted to HIS observation.

Remember Goetia's original function was to be the observer who helped humans to maintain the status quo and evolve. He kind of went off rails a little.
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>>166634457
Stay tuned for sequel, Fate/Andromeda!
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>>166634701
I can't wait to read Mahoyo, thankfully the Italian translation is like 91% done.
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>>166634668
Because the universe is literally deleted if humanity perishes. Hence aliens are very much relying on mans survival.
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>>166634701
Solomon was the origin of all miracles (magic), and creator of magecraft divorced from gods. But he chose to be a scientist in his second life. 2deep.

I think the thing about magic disappearing might be the same deal as magecraft getting weaker, which is related how Solomon fucking got a medic degree and decided to fuck off.
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>>166634723
>not Fate/Yes Mans Sky
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>This thread we find out that the Nasuverse actually works as a multiverse that's connected.
Bravo Nasu.
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>>166634674
Complex motives indeed.
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>>166634779
How can anyone love a being as evil as this
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>>166634774
While I haven't played Extella, I remember early spoilers explaining this in more detail. Wasn't it just a mechanism within the Mooncell where that timeline is destroyed?
There are many of those things floating around the universe, so that means Earth is not the only one with that mechanism, other Mooncells should also be able to create timelines.
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>>166634779
I hate her coming out in 10-roll instead of hopeman
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>>166634779
I wish she was in Extella.

Or that she gets an interlude that gives her 2nd skill crit damage
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>>166634606
Archimedes is being controlled by the Velber.
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>>166634857
No. It's nothing to do with the mooncell. It's a law of the multiverse in Nasuverse that humanity is the Deciding factor in Everything.
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>>166634857
Oh boy, if only that were true.
>All advanced ayylmao's in the galaxy with mooncells have the potential to purge the fucking universe
>all adavnced members of the Milky way wrestling for universal dominance in order to ensure the other aliens don't purge it first.
It would be far more interesting, i'll give you that.
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>>166634857
No, it affects everything. It's actually in FGO too, but never goes in deep, basically read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle

Goetia managed to skirt around it because he was originally set up as an observing system to help humans (same as Solomon).
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>>166634903
>protagonists of type moon are always humans and their choices always affect the outcome of the story
>except in fgo because it's roman's choice that does
really fires up the neurons
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I'd marry Nasu if they're a girl because he'd drive me crazy every night.
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>>166635051
Repeat it again, with one kind of pronoun this time please.
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>>166634903
>>166634931
>>166634951
Let me put it on simpler terms, anons. Think the Universe as a VN and humanity as the MC. If they make a wrong choice or take a wrong turn, we hit a dead end and the story is over. So we go back to our saved data and make another choice.
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>>166635132
We also know that timelines can get pruned if they stray too much from the given path, right?
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>>166635047
Roman was human at the time, Nasu rused us on the true protagonist desu, we were playing a side character
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>>166635132
So this confirms that there's one god above everything in the nasuverse
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>>166635189
> Given path

Not... Really?

There is no given path. The universe only gets pruned if there's no threats or if humanity dies. Which is why parallel world's exist in the first place. Different stories all playing out in all different ways.

>>166635213
Humanity is god yeah. Chances are some human in a previous multiverse reached the root and rewrote everything to be the way it is now. Possibly reincarnated themselves as Manaka (Would explain alot)
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Are there any meme teams I can build with this lineup?

1/2
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Is Rin the most loyal heroine in the series?
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>>166635291
Fuck off to /a/
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>>166635253
I'm pretty sure Solomon was said to be his agent/embodiment. He had no will on his own because in life, it was God who controlled his body.

If you actually think about it, Goetia could potentially warp the universe and do his genesis plan because he possessed Solomon, god's agent, body.
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>>166633494
because he is fucking Solomon. If manjew try to fuck shit up, Solomon will slap the living shit out of him
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>>166635253
>>166634598
>>166634701
One of the unwritten laws in nasu's writing is if it's implied or theorized, there's a 95% chance it's true.

It's a shame Mahoyo didn't sell/appeal much. We could have had translations and more lore by now.
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>>166635289
2/2
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>>166635253
>> Given path

>Not... Really?

that's what Waver says in the Zero even though.
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>>166635289
Saber Alter/EMIYA, Kuro or Sluts/Kerry, Gil or Atalanta, should work well.
Illya/Jeanne Lily/Euryale/Kuro make a nice cute team.
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>>166635190
I still think Nasu should have combined Roman and Guda into one character. But that might have caused troubles in writing like happened with Shirou at times (where Nasu had to sacrifice some of his "this guy is empty" narrative to make him care about sex).
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Guys I think I've worked it out.

In the previous Multi-verse, Percieval (Stated to love Arthur the most in GoA), didn't die in the grail quest. He reached it and reaching the Root through it, re-wrote the multiverse so it must always be in strife due to secretly having sadistic tendencies.

Happy with his new multiverse, he watched how it played out, ensuring the new Percieval would die in every possibility of this new multiverse to avoid being pushed out of supreme power, letting Galahad find the grail instead who he knew wouldn't do shit.

Deciding he misses life, Percieval incarnates as Manaka, explaining her strange love for Arthur beyond all else and her ridiculous power level, playing around with the world at large.

Code has been cracked. The universe is at the whims of Camelot Wank. Truly Ebin.
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>>166635349
Manjew wasn't in the Grail, though, 2004 war was the only one waged in FGO timeline.

But he could probably fix that with magic. He wouldn't slap anyone. He's a pacifist.
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>>166635360
>>166635289
Holy shit dude level your Servants
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>>166635432
Objective.


thanks for the laughs, faggot
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>>166635289
>every damn newfag has more 5* servants than I do
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>>166635253
Why does it get pruned if there's no threats? Because humanity needs threats to evolve?

>rewrote
How does this work exactly?
We know that goetia could rewrote everything so he would have been the new One above All?
Void also can rewrite the world.
So who was there first and which one made the rules of the humanity, the root or the frist god? Or maybe they are the same entity
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>>166635190
While at first I agreed with you, now I see Guda, Mashu and Chaldea really what Solomon, as Roman, as his own person, would have wanted to leave behind to protect his precious human order while Goetia, made by him on God's will, was super powerful, he also fucked up everything.

Goetia failed to understand the great King's wishes if he was allowed to have any, while (you), Mashu and others actually realized Roman's will and followed his instructions. While part 1 is definitely about Roman's choices, part 2 may be about Guda, Mashu and the rest living up his trust and protect his cherished human order.
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>>166635605
Those are going to be some safe, 23 turn QP battles.
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>>166635605
Needs Cat's bond CE
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>>166635462
I can't spare the mats and had to prioritise.

>>166635519
It's not that impressive when you realise this is all I've managed despite actually whaling.
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>>166635635
>Void also can rewrite the world.
Void CLAIMS she can, but we haven't actually see this ever happening. She couldn't even take out the pillar demons (admitted too she couldn't do SHIT against the Beast of Gaia while Goetia could BTFO the fucking planet) and got her body charred and comatose with all Shiki's world and loved ones BTFO by fucking Goetia.
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>>166635635
>So who was there first and which one made the rules of the humanity, the root or the frist god? Or maybe they are the same entity

We don't know for sure. All we know is that the Akasha observes everything, so if you want to recreate reality, you must somehow interact with the Root itself.
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>>166624560
Nasu doesn't give a shit

Mori sucks his cock. Mori will add all his little sisters fetish
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>>166635635
Yeah, if humanity doesn't evolve it can't transcend the universe and thus may as well not exist. It needs strife. The Liners of Notes show how powerful we can become when pushed, most likely we're meant to be well beyond even them though.

> Rewrote
That's just my fag theory don't over-think it. We don't know Why humanity is so important, but considering people have apparently reached the root before it's somewhat likely it was a human who wrote these rules into existence.
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>>166635686
Cat bond's CE needs her to be on the field.
What he needs is Nightingale instead of Shirou
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>>166635686
Just add Riceman
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>>166635291
>Rin literally risks her life to save Shinji who tried to rape her the previous day
You know she wanted it. She just wanted Lancer more, so she played hard to get until he rejected her
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>>166635635
Did you miss the point that Roman said that the highest state of fulfilled existence is leave no records behind? There's a reason why Nasu laughed at the idea of Shiki ever harming Kami-sama.

It doesn't matter what is first. What even tells you that the current records were the original ones?
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>>166635743
Good, we need a loli who calls us onii-san.
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>>166635745
>That's just my fag theory don't over-think it
No, Goetia rewriting the laws of the universe is on the chapter and in his profile description. That's probably why he was allowed to incinerate humans while the universe didn't erase itself - yet.

We don't really know in depth-what Nasu meant with it, but it's probably related to his original purpose: he was an observatory system meant to help humans evolve.
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>>166631301
I think I'm gonna go to the bar on Friday night and see if they're there again.

If they are I'll definitely try to see if any of them are Nasu or Takeuchi. If I'm right I'll report back on Saturday with anything I learned.
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>>166635832
>risks her life to save someone she allegedly doesn't like
>has to have her life threatened to stop her from murdering someone whose allegedly super important to her
Rin just a shit
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>>166635718
Wait... Shiki was in Babylon?!

t. hasn't finished Camelot
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>>166635924
I meant some guy rewriting history to have humans be so insanely important is my fag theory

What goetia did is obvious
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>>166635834
>the highest state of fulfilled existence is leave no records behind
really don't get this desu

Is this some kind of Buddhist thing?
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>>166635718
She can but she doesn't care enough to do so. She knew the outcome anyway
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>>166635519
If you're a newfag, buy an account. Better than whaling and getting shit.
If you've been playing a while and still got no SSRs, I can only press F to pay respects. Reroll. Really, some accounts seem luckier than others.
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>>166635981
Every life has an impact. From the lightest speck of sand being moved by the brushing of our feet, or the smallest breath of air taking up oxygen.

To leave nothing behind as though we didn't exist while also existing is to be beyond the laws of existence itself.

To be an existence beyond existence, how could that not be the highest state of evolution?
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>>166635635
My theory is that "God" in the Nasuverse is the collective consciousness of mankind after we reach the Root and ascend beyond it.

It exists outside of time and space and is gently guiding us towards our destiny across the multiverse.
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>>166636026
Like Kojiro(Fake)?
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>>166636026
The fuck would be the purpose of that, though?
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>>166635745
I think Solomon casually creating a mini universe outside time and his own universe when he was a soulless robot who didn't trying 100% shows how freakish humans can ever hope to be. Without Solomon's body, Goetia wouldn't be able to pull the shit he did either. And despite of this and his immeasurable magical power collected, he admits a fully alive Solomon could defeat him.

Yet, those powerlevels eclipse to the mundane joys of eating cake on some self insert's bed or check out your favorite net idol's blog update.
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>>166636058
But REGEND was an actual swordsman, just not Sasaki Kojiro.
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>>166636014
Not him but I had like 7 SSRs after 400 days, all of them are Caster, but not Merlin or Waver

I have been wondering if I'm lucky or not
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>>166636014
newfag here,what the fuck is whaling
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>tfw GO completely falls apart if you don't give a shit about Roman
At least he's dead so 2.0 might be better
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>>166636098
We don't have the capacity to think of the purpose as we don't know what it's like to not exist or even what "existence" is, yet.
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>>166636002
>T. Shikifag in denial

She said in her event she can't do shit against the Beasts of Gaia. Second, there's absolutely nothing on neutral text that claim she can actually do that. It's all hyperbole from her claims. While Goetia has lore text and actual actions saying this. Third, she was charred and on life support while every person she loved and her world was destroyed.
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>>166636119
Jesus, what's it like doing Camelot onwards with mostly silvers?
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>>166636058
Nah Kojiro existed and his farm proves it

>>166636098
Because something that decides it's own existence is immortal and indestructible. It's everywhere and nowhere, everything and nothing, it can do anything because it decides it can do anything through it's own will.

You never wanted to be a god, fag?
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>>166636058
Not really, since he actually did exist as a real man and also has an impact on the 5th War. He lived, breathed, fought, died, and was observed by those around him.

Think more like someone who manages to live their life while never impacting on reality at all. A person who never touches, consumes, or interacts with other matter - and who leaves no trace when they are 'gone'.

A being beyond reality who exists only in a conceptual state, that nobody is ever aware of. Both real and yet never observed.

How was my shit attempt at a Nasu impression?
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>>166636204
Needs more 「」
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>>166635605
Imagine grailed Enkidu with this during Childhood's end
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>>166636231
Sakura>Kohaku>>Fujino

Fujino is barely a character really.
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>>166636231
anyone but Kohaku, she's retarded.
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>>166636153
>At least he's dead so 2.0 might be better
2.0 is about protecting his legacy. Dead or not, it's about him too.
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>>166636231
Flustered Saber.
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>>166636253
He would transcend beyond the concept of death.
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>>166636257
She doesn’t really cope with her feelings much and after certain routes, they seemingly just vanish like “poof”. All those years of psychological issues and the horrors of my youth just don’t matter anymore! Yes, the visual novel might have limited the recovery a bit because, were it to happen, it would have had to in the epilogue of a route which is traditionally short. But let me tell you that, realistically, Kohaku would probably be less focused on her revenge and more focused on just getting through the day. Even if Shiki’s intervention “saved” her, her trauma would not just up and vanish like that.
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>>166636174
Euryale saved my ass
I'm glad I already got her 10/10/10 back then
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>>166636267
Thanks to Nasu making him literally jesus protecting his legacy and protecting characters I actually give a shit about are the same thing, so I'm just going to ignore the legacy part.
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>>166636168
Ha ok you're just some shikihater or whatever. I couldn't care less about her, I'm just telling you facts of what she can do.
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>>166635978
She appears in Grand Time Temple.
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>>166636115
sort of, he was a bored farmer
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>>166636302
Tsukihime is shit, who'd have thought.
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>>166636204
Didn't the guy in Mahoyo end up strong enough for fisticuffs with phantasmal beasts just because he ultra-NEETed for most of his life and got gradually more mundane the longer he interacted with Aoko?

So would that make this GOD the Saitama of shut-ins?
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>>166636174
Well, Euryale alone can kick Gawain and Mordred's asses, and Leonidas can fight off Tristan. Not sure about Lancelot and Simba though since I can't imagine any non-gold Berserker surviving even the mobs. Hell, a bunch of knights can easily kick Raikou's ass.
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>>166636314
>no argument
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who here desperately scraping together interlude quartz for dantes
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>>166636302
>and after certain routes, they seemingly just vanish like “poof”
That's because Kohakus route is clearly written to be read last. It's like the whole Matou shit in F/SN, they can't give it an actual ending in Fate or UBW because that would spoil that it even exists.
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>>166636294
>No invasion
>No invicibility
Won't survive an NP, unless another one got that backed up
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>>166636302
I think that's more her being like 'fuck, my stupidly retarded revenge plot didn't work. Guess I'll just slowly poison Akiha then".
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>>166636389
Sakura kind of takes a “burn everything down” approach and it is just a mess. At some point people snap, certainly, but usually this breakdown doesn’t mean turning against the few people who actually care about you. Initially, I could see her turning on Rin because there was a whole bunch of misunderstandings and baggage there. Not Shirou, though. Then, like Kohaku before her, Sakura gets “saved” by the cooperative efforts of Rin, Shirou, and Rider. I’ll give Sakura this, though. The Visual Novel makes a point that only you can save yourself.
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Did I ever tell you the tale of Darth (You) the wise?

It's an old story of the Nasuverse court, not something Higashide would tell you.

They said that Darth (You) could transcend life, death and all else if given enough strife and motivation.

They said he could even save other route's from dying and make Notes relevant again....

Unfortunately, a quantum lock killed them in their sleep.

Wondering if you can learn such power?

Not from a heroic spirit.
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>>166636312
So you're going to ignore
>human order
>age of men
>(you)

Roman loved (you) the most among everyone. Everyone else were just fakers who didn't believe in (you). Except Mashu. One of his wishes and will is for (you) to become a great master who can embody Chaldea. Literally (you) cannot escape his will unless you prefer to drop the game.

Da Vinci granted you that cause title on his behalf.
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>>166636392
You said Childhoods end not Goetia.
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>>166636451
>Literally (you) cannot escape his will unless you prefer to drop the game.
that kinda sucks
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>>166636431
I'm just talking about why their issues just disappear narratively.

Kohakus internal struggle isn't really dealt with outside routes directly relating to it because you aren't supposed to know the extent of it until you get into those routes in the first place. It's a "just ignore it" part of storytelling.

Like how in G-Senjou the entire story falls to fucking pieces if you apply the revelations in the last route to the earlier ones, because it hinges on you not knowing.
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>>166636470
My bad
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>>166636530
Why does he look so lewd in this picture

those eyes are just asking you to fuck him
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>>166636496
> Kinda sucks

Why?

You can't escape the will of Olga either considering you wouldn't be in Chaldea if not for her, does that annoy you too?

You can't escape the will of Flauros since he set you up to go after the singularities with his 'btw we're doing mean shit' speech
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>>166636304
So as a silverfag, who are the best silvers of each class (barring Caster)?
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>>166636253
>Imagine grailed Enkidu with this during Childhood's end

And double Merlin
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>>166636451
>So you're going to ignore
>human order
>age of men
>(you)

Yes. In the next story my motivation to beat the bad guy will be because it will presumably end bad for Mashu and Mashu specifically since the only other support character around will be Da Vinci who I also don't care about.
>Literally (you) cannot escape his will unless you prefer to drop the game.
I can literally just ignore it.
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>>166636602
>replying to blatant shitposters
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>>166636615
Ignore your life.
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>>166636572
There is nothing in this world more lewd than Roman
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>>166636663
I only ignore my social life.
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>>166636382
Maybe you should read her profile and watch the materials it could help you.
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>>166636615
This isn't a Bioware game, anon.
You can't just pick world devastating endings for the sake of it unfortunely because that would be fucking amusing. Imagine siding with Goetia?.
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>>166636602
of course? predeterminism is an insult to human nature.
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>>166636673
>tfw he died before we got to fuck him
nasu is cruel
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>>166636696
Saving the world with a different core motivation isn't the same as not saving the world.

>Bioware ending
>Get to pick defeating Goetia with the blue, green or red spell
Even Nasus not that bad
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>>166636739
Roman is property of Da Vinci-chan only.
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>>166636729
>predeterminism is an insult to human nature
Say that to my face fucker not online see what happens

Me and my calvinist boys will fuck you up
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>>166636729
The reason humans get anything done is because alot of them do individual things adding up into coincidences that allow a conclusion to be wrought through their combined actions

Roman gave you his legacy thus you will protect it. That's the order of things.

It's math. It's logic. It's what we function on.

Being annoyed by it is just...

Naive.

1 + 1 = 2, nothing more... Nothing less.
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>>166636764
>Get to pick defeating Goetia with the blue, green or red spell
To be fair the skittles ending was not what they intended.
There couldn't be a green ending with Goetia anyways.
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>>166636875
>To be fair the skittles ending was not what they intended.
Sorry, you get to beat him with a coloured spell OR just walk into the void around his temple and kill yourself.
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Merlin is cute.
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>Had an archaeology lecture in the morning all about Uruk and the Epic of Gilgamesh
>Modern Japanese history seminar chiefly concerning Oda Nobunaga and the Shimabara Rebellion under Amakusa Shiro at noon
>And now I'm off to a French Revolution tutorial where the early lives of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette will be key points of discussion

Sometimes it feels really fucking weird being a Fate fan and History student
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>>166636790
You are all too Wrong
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>>166636914
>be history student
>Atlantic slave trade, history of various pacific nations, industrialisation of europe, british colonialism in india and SEA
>nothing even remotely related to Fate
Guess it's just different countries
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>>166636914
This time you better remember that Amaterasu and Tamamo aren't connected in real life
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>>166636572
He just wants to share his food with you anon. Remember he's only 11. So don't lewd him.
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>>166636896
>just walk into the void around his temple and kill yourself.
>Romans planned sacrifice falls apart
>You transcended everyone and everything by making the worst and most daring, unpredictable choice by killing yourself
>You defy both Roman and Goetias wishes
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>>166636849
>Roman gave you his legacy thus you will protect it.
i have a harem to mana transfer with and adventures to go on, ain't got no time for no management bullshit
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>>166636926
Wrong again. He's Olga's father's property.
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>>166636978
I've done modules on those as well, actually. My college is pretty cool about letting you mix and match what you study early on so you can specialise into what interests you as you go on.

>>166636981
I'm legit glad that didn't get brought up by my tutor tbqh
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Does anyone know what Nasu's favorite manga are?
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>>166637105
Kenji
Berserk
Saint Seiya
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>>166637105
I don't think he's ever commented on that sorta thing.

He's a massive soulsborne fanboy though.
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>>166636691
It says nothing about what you imply.
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>>166636978
I find it ironic that a syllabus taking pride in the West is more common outside it. Sure there's also some 'wah wah whitey fucked us' but there's nothing like the craziness of modern French books making Napoleon a villain for slavery, of all the fucking reasons.

t. Asian
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>>166636556
It's the same for Sakura. Two routes of knowing nothing and doing nothing, she gets to continue enduring rape and ill-treatment by her asshole family, now without the one person that gave her the strength to go on. Wondering how long she can take it before she snaps there.
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>>166636739
(You) spent a year and five months together with him. Plenty of time to get him drunk.
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>>166636982
11 year olds were literally made for lewd
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>>166636608
For Saber, your only option is really Fergus. I was relying on a NP5 Cu and Lu team for a while as well.
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>>166637105
He doesn't really let his tastes influence his work, the lack of cool knight shit in favor of his bi-shonen round table after Three Dark Souls games has kinda proven that
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>>166637152
So you didnt watch the epilogue?
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>>166637213
fatty is cool too
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>>166637216
What about the hill of swords from Berserk?
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>>166637196
Basically. The reason UBW ends with "Sakura and Shinji live happily ever after" is because Nasu couldn't say what would actually happen to them knowing their actual characters because the reader isn't supposed to know that yet.

It's an intersection of narration and story where you need to stop thinking for a bit.
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>Goetia will fuck Solomon in a doujin before we get GudaxTiamat doujin

Feels bad
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>>166637180
It's natural though. The trend in Western historiography for the better part of a century was great man theories and grand narratives that glorified our past, and now we've transitioned into a period when critiquing such depictions is commonplace because they oversimplified the shit out of everything and ignored a vast possible body of research material.

Gender and racial theory are the new hot topics because they were ignored until the 1970s in most historical fields since up to then even keftists just focused on Marxist interpretations of history.

Plus Napoleon genuinely was a cunt.
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>>166637078
it really is true being the best always skips a generation
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>>166637274
I wish for threesome with Guda like that Redmen oyakodon.
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>>166637256
I always forget about him, since I had half the Rounds and Nero by the time he deigned to finally show up. The Saber class is kind of starved for economy options.

In contrast, I'm swimming in bronze Lancers, Casters, and Assassins.
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>>166637274
I'd rather have GilxTiamat
>you fucked over my city, so now I'm going to fuck you
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>>166637240
I did.
>Second, there's absolutely nothing on neutral text that claim she can actually do that. It's all hyperbole from her claims.
Re-read.

I could claim I could blow up the whole Solar System, but claim is not deed, not on neutral text. And she admitted she cannot do anything against Beasts of Gaia in KnK that alone makes her claims void, pun intended.

Not because she didn't want to, her line was relief because she couldn't actually defeat beasts of gaia, but the spooky ghosts were alaya beasts.
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>>166637078
> marisbilly summoned fucking solomon, won the hgw and made solomon into a real boy, possibly introducing him to the wonders of gay sex
> olgamarie died in the prologue
What a fucking disgrace.
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>>166637180
>>166637298
My country (New Zealand) gets weird with that since we are a first world SJW as fuck nation so everything has a gender studies component and the indigenous peoples were always right, but we are a colonial nation so there's also shit about how colonialism and forcing western values on other places was the right idea because lets face it those natives weren't going to harness electricity anytime soon. It's sort of a good thing because you get both sides but it also means you can get wildly different interpretations of the same material with professors, and if you fuck up with which one is marking you your grades will suffer depending on how you interpret.
/blog though
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Is anyone baking?
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>>166637342
Surprisingly, GoetiaxGuda has some following.
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>>166637440
happy invasion day, mate
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>>166637180
Germany here
Our history courses are mostly trying to be objective as possible but there's a strict anti-single-men policy here
Like, they keep drilling into your head that history is the result of various factors and that one man did not change the course of history and the likes to prevent people from blindly following leaders.

That's how my old history teacher in HS explained it to me back then. He was American and found that rule retarded so he just centered 6 months around Bismarck.
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>>166637396
>her father doesn't even have a design
>he gets a doujin anyway
Marisbilly when?
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>>166637389
So she said she can and this is false to you then another time she said she cannot and this is right?
Make up your mind, your logic is wrong.
By the way that's not how it works, she would have to rewrite the univers to do so but there's no point in such behavior since she knows the outcome of the story and that the protagonist wins in it.
Even if he loses it wouldnt matter to her though
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Is this canon?
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>>166637496
Yaoi is okay, but not my preference though.
>>
Best place for talons?
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>>166637514
Man, I'm so glad we got the Maori instead of those fucking Abbos.
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>>166637621
Events
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>>166637440
Huh, weird. Here in Ireland you can argue any viewpoint you want so long as you back it up with sources that aren't obviously shit, which tbf does technically preclude a lot of the more controversial stances you can take on historical issues since they're based on flawed research.

The only time I've ever heard of a history student getting in trouble for the stance they took on a topic was some edgy idiot who thought it'd be fun to try and justify the holocaust in a end-of-term paper and got dragged up in front of the dean to talk about it and made to write a new one.
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>>166637604
One claim she did to impress/spook mikiya. Another she said in mids of a battle.
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>>166637575
>her father doesn't even have a design
>he gets a doujin anyway
Faceless oldmen is a thing
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>>166637532
That politically-motivated BS is especially hilarious with regards to early 20th century German guys. I mean the Zimmermann telegram or Kaiser Willi spending half the year on his yacht and pulling a Trump in a British interview alone...
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>>166637532
That's pretty common practice in most Western colleges and academia these days, "Great Men" narratives are pretty much considered an outdated joke. I'd wager your teacher either got educated in the 60s when it was still somewhat common ir really fucking hated his professors if he was thought any later.
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>>166637610
Most things with Gudako involve becoming Goetia's mother.
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>>166637727
or*
taught*

Fuck I should really be in bed.
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>>166637206
But I want it to be consensual and sweet
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>>166637021
Don't you think that won't make him proud? He fucked over 1000 women.
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>>166637216
>He doesn't really let his tastes influence his work,
Except he really does
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>>166637684
Now that's just your personal canon.
Pointless
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>>166637647
It's somewhat the same here but it's more like they are far more strict on the quality and quantity of your sources if you aren't saying something you agree with. For example, I've written shit that I know the marker will agree with and slipped in shitty sources and on at least one occasion cited the exact same passage as two different ones because it appeared in multiple texts because I know they won't be taking a serious look, while on others I've had experience with faculty who will go through each reference individually and be super pedantic if they don't like how you are using them to argue.

No one will be outright failed for having the "wrong" opinion though.
>justify the holocaust in a end-of-term paper
I'm really disappointed no one tried that when I was studying, it would have been hilarious.
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>>166637647
There was a Brazilian architecture student who got into a serious shitstorm for submitting a modernized "prison complex" plan for his final (there were ovens).
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>>166637216
>He doesn't really let his tastes influence his work
>outright says CCC is so sexualised because he was playing Bayonetta when he made it
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>>166637859
It doesn't take an objective mention in the materials to figure out that something said when she's boasting isn't the same thing as something said in a life or death battle.
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>>166637871
Ah, fair enough then. Personally I veer more towards mainstream opinions on historical issues myself and mostly avoid ones related to race and class since they don't interest me, so I've never really had my sources vetted in-depth like that probably.

iirc his premise was something like "Germany made Jews their enemy and thus had legitimate cause for concern by the time The Final Solution was ordered" mixed with some standard /pol/ grade denial of the extent of it. Not to sure though, only heard it secondhand from a tutor when I asked them about the stupidest thing a student of theirs had ever done in the course.
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>>166637605
It's clearly a sword m8
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>>166637929
>based roman on a maaya sakamoto song
>rewrote all of camelot because he heard another maaya song

let's guess what other maaya song he's going to use for the new major characters in pt 2
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>>166637985
>life or death battle
>meaning anything to 「 」
We're just running in circle because of your own headcanon here, apparently you don't have full knowledge of the character we're discussing
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>>166638107
>clearly a sword
>is in fact not clearly a sword being invisible and all
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>>166636926
Out of curiosity I checked that tag in twitter and I first came across with a preview of a doujin Merlin is giving himself a handjob with Roman's hand after he trapped him in a dream. It's great they actually use their fucking powers.

It sucks some h doujins forget the girls aren't weak shitters and could do weird kinky stuff.
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>>166637298
>Plus Napoleon genuinely was a cunt.
Napoleon was extremely kind with his defeated enemies.
He conquered Vienna three times and Berlin once, yet he never deposed the Austrian Emperor or the Prussian King.

Meanwhile, the Prussians wanted to execute him after defeating France in 1814 and it's only thank to Anglo-Russian "kindness" that he was merely imprisoned on some island instead.
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>>166637856
examples?
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>>166636174
This https://youtu.be/cNgn1Vo3I0M
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>>166637727
In France it come back a bit since 80's but with a bit more criticism. We saw them as actor and product of their time.
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>>166638124
What Maaya song he listened for Camelot?
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>>166638220
replica
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>>166638049
I always wondered what would happen if you loaded yourself up with /pol/ sources and went on a crusade in a paper.
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>>166638228
http://www.lyrical-nonsense.com/lyrics/maaya-sakamoto/replica/
Lion King?

>yfw his best characters are based on maaya's songs
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>>166638297
No, Bedi
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>>166638339
Bedi seems to be the one the singer is singing to. The one who stretches the hand at them.
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>>166638124
To be fair, Roman prototype is in DDD. Will it ever be relevant again?
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>>166629734
All of Kohaku’s revenge comes down to pitting the right people against each other at the right time and using the past against the Tohno’s all while not implicating herself
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>>166638157
>saber not a sword

u wot m8
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>>166638532
Sabers can be drills

Are drills swords?
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>>166636254
>Fujino is barely a character really.

Fujino is a character who does the right thing most of the time, but teeters very, very close to the edge of becoming a bad person. Even if her murderous rampage was, frankly, reasonable, she is still shown to suffer consequences for it. She also, unlike Sakura, suffers consequences for simply having power. What makes Fujino good is that she is actually written as a realistically broken person. Especially, as a broken person who has survived and is trying to figure out where that leaves them. Fujino is empty and ambiguous.
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>>166638532
It's only fair considering how many archers don't use bows
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>>166638107
>saber can kill berserker with invisible air

is this canon?
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>>166638127
I'm not even that guy, just chiming in to make a point.
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>>166638643
>F/SN
>canon
lmao
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>>166638643
Strike Air: Hammer of the Wind King
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>>166638756
Not A rank
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>>166638832
Says who, Invisible Air is C-Rank but using it as Strike Air was never ranked.
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>>166638691
Please restrain yourself next time because that point, which indeed makes sense for most situations, doesn't here.
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>>166638756
B-rank and the anime made it look like a budget excaliblast for some reason.
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>>166638567
Drills are just fat swords with more folds
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