/palg/ - Paladins General

First for literally everyones father

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second for best boy

third for kikes

fourth for ignore autism

fifth for report autism

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Opinion on Pip after the buff?

>>166572083
xth for incoming shitposting

>>166572338
Fernando is my amigo.

>>166572606
is the gun in game yet
it looks neat

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>>166572690
He is everyone's special amigo.

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>>166572606
Still C U T E!
The falloff is more forgiving now, making duels a bit easier, and will do more damage against grouped targets. Other than that, business as usual.

>>166572843
Yes, and for the low low price of 200 shekels anon! Pay up!

>>166572843
It is, 200 crystals tho.
It looks nice + special chickens, but discombobulator is still the best.

Just bought the new Rooster weapon for Pip with my hard earned jewbear crystals. Feels good man.

Can't play yet, does the PvE have easy and hard modes like Smite?

Sixth for don't panic and cry when people bring up Overwatch.

>>166573047
No, enjoy getting rekt by aimbots

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Apparently winning one game in ranked gives you Grandmaster border now.
How do they even make those bugs, holy shit.

>>166573085
Darn. Thought that was a good compromise given how how hard the Smite one was if you try to do it without a real group.

Replace pip with a cute anime girl.

>>166573085
>getting rekt in PvE
Pip ult + Bomb king ult = insta win.

>>166573170
Finally a reason to play ranked.

>>166573242
>cute anime girl with multiple cocks
i like it

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>>166573307
>implying the average retard in queue knows to do this
Skye Cassie Viktor Tyra 3 games in a row

>>166573370
But we already have Ying for futa gangbangs.

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>>166572495

You can't be serious.
>Both edgelords
>Both have skull-like mask, trenchcoat, and wear black
>Both use massive handguns

This was done on purpose, if you couldn't tell. They're designed to attract the Reaper players. He's Reaper, except he plays like a Reaper/Mccree hybrid.

Another reason I'm trying to figure this out is that it either implies Paladins ripped off quite a bit from Overwatch, or it's the other way around which is even more insane as Blizzard would've ripped off a lot of things from a comparatively small company like HiRez knowing they could get away with it via their money juggernaut, which is disgusting and I would stop playing Overwatch and throw money at Paladins.

Oh yes, I actually have money, and I'm not spending it until I figure this out. See my conundrum, anons? I'd love to support Paladins, but this issue is important to anyone with a brain. Some of you, I know, this will not apply to. Happily disregard and continue staring at the wall.

Ignore.

>>166573307
I got matched with a guy who played Ruckus and didn't buy a single item.

reminder to ignore shitposters and report them

>>166573716
I sure hope he was yelling at you for buying the wrong thing the entire time.

>>166573170
So that's where all those Grandmaster Skyes came from. Good to know.

>>166573819
I wish. He was yelling at me because I couldn't heal him properly when he jumped right on the point.

>>166573815
>>166573639
Reminder that I'm not a shitposter and you're both sperging faggots that the rest of us are laughing at.

Anyway I think I've learned that Paladins was, in beta, a more unique game, but changed to be more like Overwatch over time. Is this accurate?

How many of you still playing Paladins liked the old version better? Do you fault them for making the game more like OW?

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>>166574050
>the rest of us are laughing at.
haha wat

>>166573924
Feels bad man. I fucking hate healing every Ruckus, cause they always jump straight on the point, get gangbanged and then spam VHS all the time.

don't reply to shitposters they don't want to debate they want to get free (You)s

>>166573479
mcree I'll give you, but remind me again where reaper can fly, shoot out long range aoe shots and block attacks coming from a direction?

>>166574102
Pal, ignore the bait.
Unless you are the samefag just trying to discuss with yourself.

So, anyone have a good Torvald deck? and has anyone tried using him in ranked?

>>166574050

If you listen to HiRez's story (which may or may not be true, but there's no evidence to the contrary as far as we know), Paladins, in the early stages was very similar to how Overwatch ended up being (that is, directly taking after TF2's KotH and CP arena-style modes), but when Overwatch was announced, the Paladins dev team decided to shift away from the TF2-style into the weird large-scale map-types of the closed beta. Eventually, due to feedback and general analysis of Overwatch's popularity, they decided to say "fuck it", and went back to the original plan of being similar to TF2 game modes, Overwatch be damned.

Again, how much of this narrative is true can be debated, but I see no overt reason why it isn't plausible.

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Reposting tits and hips.

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>torvald's finger gun taunt

i love it

>>166574238
Those are unique, but they have enough of the design where it's obvious they're making a Reaper, at least visually. That's why the 13 year old Hot Topic credit card holders pick him, anyway.

>>166574246
All you faggots keep saying this, but all you're doing is showing you don't understand what bait is and are just terrified to have a real conversation.

Come out of the closet, faggots, and just talk. It's not going to hurt you.

>>166574442
It's what i liked the most from the stream.

>>166574442
But do you love it enough to buy 127 colossal chest

I am usually a healslut or tank main, but no way I am playing either of these after the patch. I ain't healing or protecting any faggots that have never played frontline but now are shitting themselves trying to insta-lock Torvald.

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>first game of Torvald (fish market)
>initial tank slapfight
>Makoa hooks me
>can't even get through my shield
>my beam is burning him down too fast
>he's low and attempts to shield
>I just eat his shield up
>he dies

>later
>overtime with enemy Makoa and Drogoz on cart
>firehose both of them off the cart and off the stage
>Makoa sinks like a stone and Drogoz is desperately trying to glide back
>feel light tapping on back of shield
>whip around and blast Evie into a corner with last bit of ult
>silence her escape attempt and finsh her off
>Drogoz is finally about to touch down again
>taser him dead before he even lands
>play of the game

>>166574625

Just play Grohk


If you have a tank to heal, great

If not, just use your 2700 HP, totem, and laser pointer to be the frontliner your time always wanted

>>166574442
it's nice
but what the fuck is his default taunt
someone explain

>>166574442
>taunt
it's an emote.

>>166574628
Sha Lin carried.
Jk, good job.

>>166574832
he is a old man that get excited too easily

>>166574620
wait, can we not get emotes from radiant chest anymore?

>>166574456
like I'll give you paladin's cribs from the same notes that overwatch does, but to say it's a copy is a bit too far imo.

>>166574832
I bet it's scrapped Ying or Pip emote.
Looks cute on him, though.

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>>166574456
>>166574456
where is Reaper cursed arm?
where is Reaper ghost revolver?
where are Reaper horns?
where is Reaper gem at the middle of his chest?

>>166574960

Emotes and poses. Enjoy paying 75 crystals for them now.

>>166574135
Same. Ruckus players seem to often forget they're not always as powerful as his ult. Some tanks can run onto the point and not care what the situation is, he isn't one of them.

>>166574960
You still can, but why would you want to leave it all up to random chance when you could just buy all the colossal chest and guarantee you get it? You could open 500 radiant chest and never get the emote you want my friend, wouldn't that just be terrible

>>166574367
Interesting, but aren't the game modes really similar anyway? I mean the only difference in Siege is that it's a combination of capture point and payload right?

The game modes are fine, but the characters are just too much. I downloaded Paladins, after playing Smite for years and Overwatch since release, expecting something unique. The characters being like 80% complete and total ripoffs or recombinations of Overwatch characters was very, very disappointing. I expected more from HiRez, desu, after playing Smite for so long.

I enjoy Paladins, but it's so much an Overwatch clone that things like the mounts and little card system seem like tacked-on gimmicks so they can say "look, our game is different!" when it's obviously not.

A lot you insist that the game is deeper and different mechanics-wise, but I'm having trouble investing any time into it when it plays almost exactly like an Overwatch budget knock-off.

>>166574941
I'll give credit where credit is due: that was probably the only Sha Lin I've ever seen carry his own weight.

>>166575673
if you really played Smite you could see how many Paladins abilities come from it

>>166575843
*should

>>166574960
>>166575449

>All emotes and poses are now in the Colossal Chest as well as the Radiant Chest.

I don't know why, maybe making you spend more crystals to get actual items

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Is the menu music super quiet after the patch for anyone else?

>>166576158
Yes, they lowered it by a considerable amount this patch

>>166575167
These are literally tiny details. Do you guys have any concept of creating an original character? Have you been poisoned so hard by the anime generation that even the most superficial differences qualify for making an original character?

I'm an artist and a writer, have been paid for both, and this shit is blatant copying that borders on theft of intellectual property. You can't take an original character, give him a new mask and slightly change his weapon, then say he's your original character. People have been sued for doing far less than what Paladins has done.

Rest assured, Blizzard could sue them. They've just chosen not to because any suit would get insanely complicated and make for bad PR. They'd only do it if they thought Paladins was a legitimate threat to their income.

But depending on the situation and facts I haven't been able to find yet, HiRez could also sue Blizzard on the same grounds. Blizzard obviously has a gozillion more dollars than little HiRez, but if they had the intellectual property rights and could prove it, it wouldn't matter in the end.

>>166575843
The bigger thing is how Paladins and Overwatch aren't likely ripping each other off, it's more that the similar ideas are kind of obvious or things that are done all the time. Big guy with a hook. Edgelord assassin. Sniper who also has an SMG. Guy with a bow. People focus on these things like they're actually the interesting parts instead of realizing each game builds on them in different directions.

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>>166576231
>an entire arm
>tiny detail

loak at this Reaper ripoff i found

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Unpopular opinion: I don't mind Code Green chest cost, since the other cool skins cost 125 crystals or more.
However, I still think that it's shitty that instead of getting a skin you can get a fucking spray.

>>166575843
I know that, and I'm fine with that. I kind of expected it and yes besides Grover I think Cassie plays a lot like Rama. It was the Overwatch knock-offs that disappointed me and ruined the game experience.

Hell, I started playing as Pip and was enjoying the game until I saw Reinhardt's shield, Dvas mech, Torbjorns, turrets, Roadhogs hook, Pharah as a flying lizard, and Mei's ice block was the straw that broke the camels back. I wanted to play a different hero shooter with HiRezs great charm and designs, not Overwatch .5

It was then that the horror dawned on me that I'd randomly picked the one of maybe three original characters out of a roster of 21.

I also think that Smite has a great F2P system going for it and have spent lots of money on it. I can't see doing that in Paladins unless the deeper gameplay is just amazing and makes up for how similar to Overwatch it is.

>>166576479
>still think that it's shitty that instead of getting a skin you can get a fucking spray.

So you do mind

>>166575673
>it plays almost exactly like an Overwatch budget knock-off
It doesn't, it has some key differences which are why I play it rather than Overwatch:
>higher time to kill, which means fewer instant deaths and longer fights. It feels more like the ttk of a MOBA rather than an FPS and I enjoy that more.
>ultimates aren't broken and don't regularly wipe the enemy team/revive your whole team/do any of that kind of bullshit. They're also dodgeable because most champions have an ability for escaping.
>the overall balance is better and there is less bullshit. For example, Roadhog's hook combo can kill most heroes in one hit whereas Makoa's hook does less damage and is more for dragging an enemy into the middle of your team. There are also no broken must-pick champions like Reinhardt or Ana.
Seriously, I have to type this shit out to everyone who claims they're the same game, there should really be a copypasta or something.

>>166576562
Damn, you got me.
Time to shake my fist at the picture of JewBear. How dare he steal my shekels.

>>166576368
I know that, but play each game for 5 minutes and it's obvious that they aren't just using the same tropes that came from... wherever they came from. The characters are far, far, FAR too similar. Even extrapolating from TF2 classes, yes Mei and Evie are variants of the Pyro which can do damage over time, but suddenly two completely different companies make them both ice women with area ults that operate in the exact same way?

That level of coincidence doesn't exist, and that's not a trope. That's a deliberate copy, as are many of the other things you mentioned. The details are too similar.

Side note: at least there's a conversation now instead of people screaming bait and ignore. Thanks.

>>166576557
Really reaching with most of those "ripoff" accusations, bait-kun. At least say what they're actually ripping off and not just wank to overwatch more

>>166576479
how about getting 3 almost identical torsos before you get a head?

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>>166576832
>Mei and Evie are variants of the Pyro which can do damage over time
You played Paladins for half an hour didn't you

>>166576557
>Hell, I started playing as Pip and was enjoying the game until I saw Reinhardt's shield, Dvas mech, Torbjorns, turrets, Roadhogs hook, Pharah as a flying lizard, and Mei's ice block was the straw that broke the camels back. I wanted to play a different hero shooter with HiRezs great charm and designs, not Overwatch

You must have a hard time playing any game in existence since a lot of games share similar ability concepts, even those you mentioned.

But seriously
>turrets

This is how I know you're just trolling.

>>166576579
Thank you for this post and after playing Overwatch since release, I know that you're right. The ultimates and insta-kills have been a source of constant frustration in OW since the beginning. Every 13 year old grabs a Reaper, does terrible, but can still jump in and ult to get a 4 or 5 kill streak and clutch the game. It's like it was designed so that no matter how good you are, a player with way lower skill can fuck you.

The meta is also tiring as hell, same 6-7 characters almost every game that if you don't pick, you lose. Ranked is anal surgery.

I will remember this. If it makes you feel better, it's my first time to pal general and I've only been playing paladins for like 8 hours lol. It also helps a lot for me to think of Paladins as a better-balanced Overwatch so I can accept the mirrored kits and abilities and still enjoy the game.

>>166576832
>Mei and Evie are variants of the Pyro
Pyro doesn't have a rocket launcher.

oof, you should put on your big boy bait pants now m8, the bait quality is getting lower and lower now.

>>166576231
Neither of them can sue the other. You can copyright a character's name, a character's design, but not gameplay mechanics. For example, Capcom once lost a lawsuit suing a Street Fighter clone that even ripped off some of the characters, but gave them new themes.

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Wow i can't believe they did this, such a blatant Reaper ripoff

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Reminder that Shield Makoa is best Makoa.

>>166577010
Half an hour? The guy thinks Evie is like the Pyro. That would require either never playing Evie or never playing TF2.

>>166577010
Hey I stayed up all night, boy I've got like 6 hours now. But that's the closest comparison in TF2 I can figure.

>>166577094
I meant to say Torbjorns turrets.

and no I don't have a hard time playing a lot of games since I've never in my life seen two games that were so blatantly similar down to having literally the exact same characters with different skins and a subtle ability tweak, i.e. Widowmaker and Kinessa.

I'm 30 years old and I've never, ever in my life seen such blatant copying. It's never happened like in these two games, and I wouldn't be in here spending time talking about it if I didn't know this was true, I would instead be playing Paladins and having fun.

But I downloaded Palawatch and want to know what the fuck is going on. Sorry I missed the boat, I'm sure these conversations were all the rage a few months ago or late 2015.

>inb4 30 year old jokes
30 is the new 20, kids.

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>>166577314
They went too far

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I'm sick of playing support while Torvald shitters are everywhere. Because now every other frontliner will become Flanknando or my teammates will completly ignore the point and go chase the enemy Evie.

I just want to play Ying without being left to be gangraped and killed by the enemies, while Torvald is running to safety, and the rest of my team is nowhere to be seen.

Is it worth it becoming a Kinessa/Skye main? I just want to jerk off in a corner while I'm having fun.

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>>166577654
hey guys whats going on

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>>166577654
>>166577314
>tfw we've all ripped off Overwatch and Blizzard will sue us all

>>166577258
Interesting.

>>166577242
Um, I guess the ice staff is like a rocket launcher, but Evie took the ice cube shield and the ultimate straight from Mei so that's why I grouped them. There are plenty of other characters with pyro-like weapons that apply a DOT, like Fernando's flamethrower.

The recombinations would be a lot easier to swallow than the straight 1-for-1 rip offs like the other half of the characters.

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>>166577618
Are you autistic or are you just that big of a fanboy? Why do you care so much?

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>>166577876
We can't allow this

>>166577789
>Is it worth it becoming a Kinessa/Skye main? I just want to jerk off in a corner while I'm having fun.
Why not pick Sha Lin instead? He deals more damage and has a longer ultimate, more time to jerk off!

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>>166577984
They can't keep getting away with it!

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>>166577936
Except there is footage of Evie and her Ice Block before Mei even got announced, ya ninny.
And no, the ults aren't the same either. Evie's is instant effect where you stand that cripples enemies (can't use movement ability, but can do other things just fine) and moves forward slightly.

>overbaby is crying about what a big rip off barik is because he places turrets like otrbjorn does
>isnt seeing the fact that torbjorn's turret is literally tf2 engineer's sentry gun

how delusional must one person be

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>>166578267
I can't wait for the trial of century, Blizzard vs the world.

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>>166578323
Not to mention trying to place Blizzard of all things on a pedestal of originality

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>>166577654
Yeah skull mask meme whoa you got me.

Wait no you didn't at all since there's a lot more to Reaper and Androxus' character besides the mask. Yes Androxus has some differences, such as getting Reapers gun that instead fires like McCrees. but he's still incredibly similar in design and playstyle - edgelord trenchcoat assassin with a skull mask.

Denying the obvious similarities = mental illness. Does anybody honestly think it was just a coincidence?

Did they hire the same millennial douchebag from DeviantArt that said "I have this great idea for a dark, edgy assassin guy that dual-wields massive handguns, and his mask is like a SKULL! Pretty fucking rad huh?!"

HiRez - You're hired! Mind-blowing stuff there!

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>>166577789

Skye is pretty much unplayable-tier at the moment. Unless you are getting a lot of support from good teammates or are against clinically blind opponents, she's too fragile to accomplish much of anything.

I wish it weren't the case, but them's the brakes.

>>166578423
THE MURKIEST SCAM

>>166578187
I do not know how to properly use his ultimate.

>>166577952
If it's not obvious why someone wouldn't want to play a knock-off game, I've already answered that in about 10 other exhaustive, well-written posts.

>>166578423
>>166578267
>>166577984
>>166577876
>>166577654
>>166577314
>>166576472

Mental illness is serious. Please do your part to raise awareness:
http://www.nami.org/

>>166578423
That first one is actually a Skyrim ripoff. Bethesda gonna sue Disney now.

>>166578303
>Except there is footage of Evie and her Ice Block before Mei even got announced
This also happened with Ruckus IIRC. Clearly Hi-Rez has mastered corporate espionage.

At least it keeps the thread alive.

>>166578323
it's just a troll, everyone should just learn to ignore him.

He might say "no I'm just curious". But the rest of the garbage he spouts will be the same old recycled "it's a ripoff". Even when you give him examples of why it's not, he will move the goalpost and say "w-well, some of the skills are the same", ignoring the fact that those skills are available in a lot of other games.

And of course, he will ignore the examples of stuff that ahs been shown in Paladins first before Overwatch, like Evie, Ruckus, etc.

If he's not trolling, I'd say he also believes that Blizzard invented telephones, the internet, steam engine, bicycles, wheelbarrows, the printing press, condoms and television.

>>166578532
Shouldn't Skye be played as a character that kills low HP enemies that ran away or to bully Kinessa?

>>166578724
Mental Retardation is serious. Please do your part to raise awareness: /owg/

>>166578808
Blizzard invented condoms to help clean up when they fuck you in the ass with their balance.

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>>166578303
I actually saw that video on Youtube, and that's crazy. Does that mean that Blizz in fact ripped off HiRez where Mei is concerned? She's one of those examples that is definitely not a coincidence but clear evidence of off-ripping.

Is it a joint rip-off, a rip-off festival? A celebration of ripping it off? Are HiRez and Blizzard colluding to produce two of the exact same games, share all the money from both, and make intelligent, redpilled anons like me go insane?

Is it a social experiment to see if they can literally release the same game at the same time, twice, and get double the money from different pay models?

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>>166578731
Yep. Ruckus was in the game long before the gamur gurl cancer in OW was announced.
Not to mention their almost polar-opposite playstyles.

Isn't Sombra a Skye rip-off?

>>166578983
why are you so converned with rip-offs? its jot about who did it first, ots about who did it better

>>166578983

IT'S A FUCKING ICE-BLOCK

it's not an uncommon video game concept

holy fuck, I want people to stop this fucking song-and-dance about who is ripping off who already; I thought this shit had died down a month after launch

>>166579258
Yes, and she even has the good old coat of Blizzard Balancing so she's somehow even worse than Skye

>>166578323
Yeah there were turrets in TF2, and they looked similar. What does that have to do with both games having fucking Dwarves that look insanely alike doing the turret-building?

That's not an argument, and you should feel bad.

>>166578453
If you haven't been paying attention, no one is placing them on a pedestal of anything. We're just trying to figure out who ripped off who, knowing full well the standard tropes in team shooters such as CAN BUILD A SENTRY GUN.

This post displays anons severe lack of reading comprehension.

>>166578808
This guy is the leader of the neckbeard basement brigade. He points to a lot of shitty retorts and bad, over-generalized examples given showing why the obvious ripoff/borderline identical characters are actually NOT then spergs out when we don't all accept his clearly superior logic.

Hint - if you actually had good examples, I would've happily accepted them and gone off enjoying the game, since that's all I really want to do here. Unfortunately, I have a brain, your examples were shit, no one's moving any goalposts, and I'm still looking for examples of Paladins stuff being shown first since the only one I've found with a source is Evie.

Really anon we were actually getting somewhere before your virginal faggotry had another flare up.

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A break from the shiller y'all keep feeding attention

>>166579553
You comparing everything to Overwatch for barely any reason besides blind fanboyism is certainly putting them on a pedestal, shitposter kun.

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>>166578902

Skye only has 1800 HP and a weapon that suffers from obscene falloff and spread bloom. On top of that she has no real mobility (the 25% boost from Vanish is almost unnoticeable, and the speed boosts from cards are really iffy/short), and her invisibility is revealed by proximity, which, combined with the game's generous hitboxes means that you either die from someone spamming downrange trying to find you, or you die because someone walked close enough to see you.

Skye is so neutered at this point that I'd pretty much be willing to say that Kinessa has the upper hand in the matchup now.

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>>166579343
>only FPS game ever where a female character turns into an invulnerable ice-block to regen health
>wait here's another FPS exactly like it where a female character turns into an invulnerable ice-block to regen health that's happened to come out at almost the exact same time

>i-it's not an uncommon video game concept!

Can you name one other game that's in a genre even close where this has happened? Ever? This is some max-level cognitive dissonance and denial.

INAPPROPRIATE CAPS

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>>166579663
Pip is cute! C U T E !

>>166579851
But not a real support.

>>166572083
THREADLY REMINDER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlTJ9GrJkCU

>>166579709
>t. no idea what the fuck is going on nor has read any posts that he's referencing

>>166579973
>trying to pretend you're someone else
Pathetic

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>>166579838

WoW has the most iconic Ice Block in vidya, and the "become invincible but disabled" mechanic is found all around, like a Divine spells that does exactly that (as well as restore Endurance/Health) in Pillars of Eternity, for a more recent example. Both Overwatch and Paladins are genre-blending in the extreme, being inspired by both ASSFAGGOTS and Arena Shooters, so they take to borrowing game mechanics from other genres better than most.

To imply that just because they're shooters means that they are conceptually disassociated with the rest of video games is laughable.

That's like claiming that the idea of fire-type attacks dealing additional damage over time is one that is restricted by game genre, which is patently untrue.

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>>166579892
He supports everyone with morale by being CUTE!
But yeah, he's the least support-like support in terms of heals. Playing him like the others won't go over too well. His CC is really good, though.

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Pip's new grenade splash damage just feels so good! No more hits that may as well not have hit.

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CATCHAMP WHEN

>>166579892
>crow control that lasts fucking forever
>not support

>>166580367
Maeve'll probably come between OB44-48.

>>166580280

more kindling: Grim Dawn, a Diablo-clone, has the Blade Barrier skill for the nightblade class, which, surprise surprise, stuns them while they become immune to damage, gain reflection, and heal themselves

Grim Dawn had this ability during it's early-access development in 2013, could HiRez and Blizzard both have STOLEN from Crate Entertainment???

>>166580392
how come bk isnt support
his grumpy bomb can be tossed every 4 seconds with cards
if thats not permenant crowd control then i dont know what is

>>166580434
if they stick to their usual schedule, Maeve should be in OB44. But, if they really want to release 15 champs this year as they planned, maybe on OB43?

>>166580143
It's been only me the entire time. Can't you tell by how awesome, thorough, and correct every post I make is?

I haven't seen anyone else around here as awesome as myself probably ever.

>tfw Torvald could be so much better if his handicopter emote was an actual escape ability
Hi-rez why.

>>166572606
Retarded, why buff a character with stupidly large aoe already.

>>166580726
You should realise, that a lot of characters aren't straight role. Torvald is a tank/support, Ruckus is tank/damage. The main quality of being in the support group itself is healing, which BK doesn't provide.

>>166577389
Holy hell how? Does the shield siphoning count as damage blocked?

>>166578532
>getting support from good teammates

This is the problem I have. I say I am going to ult, then they all run the opposite direction instead of attacking the enemy.

>>166580280
>Didn't play WoW, and don't remember 'regenerative ice block' being some iconic thing
Even if it was, it's not the 'invincible but disabled' mechanic that's the problem, morons. None of what you said justifies having such a similar character use the exact same ability in the exact same way. That's obvious rip-off, like beyond obvious, and anyone over the age of 5 would acknowledge that obviousness.
>Fire attacks deal additional damage over time
Yes because that being the world's most obvious damage mechanic that's been in use since the stone age is totally the same comparison as two characters in two different games having the exact same uniquely weird ability down to almost having the exact same animations for it.

>Muh $5 words like 'conceptually disassociated' and 'laughable' when your post is actually quite dumb
kek

Post rating: 0/10

>>166580679
Again, it's not the mechanic, but the way it's executed. It would've been impossible for both companies to spontaneously come up with that exact idea, same ice block and same ultimate, at the same time. It doesn't happen, stop pretending it does. Someone ripped someone off.

When can we stop restating the obvious and get on with the conversation???

>>166581557
It's not impossible for things like that to just happen. On March 12, 1951, two different comic strips named "Dennis the Menace" were published without the authors knowing about each other. It was a complete coincidence.

>>166581557
To expand on my own glorious awesomeness, this would be like another FPS game coming out near the same timeframe as Half-Life 1 featuring a weapon called 'Snorks' that are little monsters you throw out that attack people before exploding that both companies arrived at totally independently.

I know you fuckers don't leave the basement much, but this sort of thing doesn't happen in that big, scary thing we call 'the outside world.'

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>>166581778
Well fuck that's a good example. But I don't buy it in this scenario - one of these companies is a cunt.

I will discover who the cunt truly is.

As of right now, Blizzard has definitely taken the lead in highest probability of being a cunt. I actually am happy about that because I think Paladins is a better balanced game and Overwatch gets old as fuck. Also I like HiRez and they are the obvious underdog in this situation.

I miss Kelly. I miss staring at her tits. Bart is a lucky man.

>>166581916
>To expand on my own glorious awesomeness
Yep, there it is

>>166581557
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_films

It does happen, and for a full myriad of reasons. You're obsession of one game ripping off the other when these concepts have been floating around the fucking collective consciousness of games and games development for years and years prior to either of these two games fails any descriptor other than "laughable"

Invest in the rope market.

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>>166574628

>330 objective time

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>>166581353
It does, 2 Torvalds can get a lot of shielding done by just sucking each other off. As for Makoa, it's more about the deck itself. Barrier Reef 4 + Chronos 3 = new shield up every 3 seconds if it gets destroyed, which was easily arranged here by guarding Grohk, his totem and Torvald here.
Now, depending on enemy lineup and which items they buy at the start, you wanna switch between two options: one with Ancient Reslove 4 + Tidal Grace 2 if enemy team is low-shield damage, or Carapace 4 + Ancient Reslove 2 for heavy hitters, like Drogoz here who got wrecker.

>>166582243
Oh yes the concept of a hot ice chick in a hero shooter that can freeze herself in an iceberg was just floating all around the fucking collective consciousness.

Please, nigger.

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torvald is fun

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>>166582429
>2 Torvalds can get a lot of shielding done by just sucking each other off.

s-someone draw this

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WHERE IS MY MUSCLEGIRL FRONTLINER AND QT CAT LOLI FLANK JEWBEAR?

>>166582746
Maeve is coming soon™ but she won't be a loli

I though a hero with auto lock attack would be boring but Torvald is unironically pretty fun desu

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How asshurt will waifufags be when Maeve is revealed to be furfag tier?

>>166581557
tell you what m8
You win.
Paladins is a big fat Overwatch rip off.
Hi-Rez has plagerized almost every aspect of the game.
Guess what The English invented football (soccer to burgers) and we generaly suck at it.
It doesn't matter who did it first.
It matters who did it best.

Did MM get even worse after patch? I've played a few games with people in grandmaster league today

>>166583154
There's apparently a glitch that awards grandmaster after one match iirc, so almost all of those are not genuine

>>166583154
No. Comp is broken right now and you can get grandmaster border by just winning one match.

>>166583092
At least it will be a girl and not Pip.

>>166583249
>Get grandmaster by winning one match
Time to get that sweet Grandmaster Ying and Evie borders.

>>166583110
I cannot argue with this man.

I have enough dirt to write a fucking thesis on this... it's too bad I'm like 8 months too late. Maybe I'll save it for when Paladins is officially released...

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>>166583092

I will be so asshurt, you have no idea

I just want there to be a GOOD dickstab character, since the devs have decided that Skye being in a good place means she lives in a dumpster

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Drogoz is a cute lizard

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>>166585193
>lizard

>>166582601
>after fucking a bunch of elves, people, foxes and trees the time has come for Torvald to fuck himself
Has science gone too far?

torvald is fucking broken and should be nerfed immediately

>>166582746
What about a musclegirl qt cat loli frontliner with flank capabilities?

>>166586728
Add in some healing and i'll main.

>>166581778
Its just like Calculus!

>>166578489
Yes, because having 3 dashes is extremely similar to having a slow, disarming, long range teleport.

You've never played androxus if you think he plays similar to reaper, and his abilities are too different from mc

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Friendly reminder that 'they' know what you fap to.

>>166582463
Oh my god, he used the "ice girl who can freeze herself into an ice block" argument...

When Evie has been able to do this long before Overwatch even existed. Of ALL the "ripoff" things you chose, you chose one that has been the same ever since paladins began development, long before Overwatch was revealed. Good job.

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>>166578489
>assassin
>in a FPS
WOW i am truly blown away with your arguments i will never question your intelect again

>>166572083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7AyGEqyQ6s
>that blatant Mei ripoff
lets make your voice heard!

>>166582214
Do you legitimately have autisM?

https://youtu.be/qwigEp0MW5M?t=189
>Zarya shield
these assholes have no shame!

>>166589170
So Alyssa knows that I jerk off to her?

>>166572083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVaCTioU9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Usl3H_OFIA
Tracer ripoffs

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>>166589170
Alyssa if you're reading this tell drybear to fix drogoz, he sucks now that he can't go fast anymore

>>166591248
She gets off on it, the slut!

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>>166591248
If you're vocal enough about it, probably.

Pixie too.

makoa soundsa re bugged and loud as FUCK

>>166592667
YOU CHALLENGE MAKOA??????????????

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>last 5 matches were me and other team Torvald playing "who throws off the other one from a cliff more times"

>be Torvald
>murder every other frontliner while draining their shields
>disarming + silencing enemies who mob me
>use knockback laser to send people to the other side of the map
>shield random allies and save them from death

Is Sean Connerelf the best frontline?

>>166593375
Its broken that's what it is, it needs a nerf when it can just toy around with a freaking makoa.

>>166589170
So they know i want a loli champ?

>>166592359
Yeah, I jerk it to Pixie too. I want her to know this since it'll make me harder when I do it.

>>166593487
>Makoafag feeling challenged

Feels like the announcer got a new voice or they modified it somehow.

So how is Torvald? Is 42 even out yet?. (Im at work)

>>166593886
>work
Don't forget to buy gems.

>>166594042
>paying for a free game

>>166594042
>gems
I will not play your shitty moba Drybear

>>166593886
Nope. Theyve pushed it back until next week

>>166593886
Torvald is the sex.

>>166593487
Give my condolences to your turtle wife.

>>166593326
>make every single Nando shields without thinking regret it
>make every Makoa who hooks me without thinking regret it
>damage can't chip you down from range
>flanks get fucked by rune blast and beam lock mechanics
>can enable alt-comps

I got play of the game just running around the cart with their Nando and Tyra chasing me because the beam can bend.

>>166593375
He is, and I'm especially thankful he's basically "anti-meta" in a nutshell.

>>166594435
Thanks. Why so many unhelpful memers in here?

>>166594896
You are being memed on right now.

I really want to play evie but her voice lines and look really make me not want to play her.

Is her default card set good? Or do I need to have cards to even have !!FUN!!. ?

>>166595069
Her default cards are absolute crap.
You need Teleport 4, Flicker 4, Wormhole 2 and whatever else to make her work.

>>166595069
You're supposed to spam her laugh to annoy your teammates.

>>166590021
>>166590463
>>166591250
keep going

>>166578532
>>166579796
I don't get why people complain about her. She isn't always viable but I wouldn't call her unplayable.

Her range is very small and invisibility isn't too great, but she still works great at picking out backline that's focusing on your teammates or damaged players.
Once she gets in the range when her invisibility stops working, her DPS is insane, you can burst down most DDs before they even react. Actually with her DPS you can easily kill damaged enemy tanks that fall back without support.

>>166595191
Is there anyone whose default cards aren't garbage?

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original idees go

mage champ support
>holds open spellbook in left hand with glowing runes on the pages
>magic effect in his right hand
>secondary attack is cycle through different spells, plays a short animation of flipping a spellbook each time you cycle
>each spell has a different rune and color on the page
>first spell is multiple ice bolts with low damage and with spread similar to shotgun
>second spell is wide horizontal arc of low damage energy projectiles
>third spell is fast firing lightning fire projectiles that are affected by gravity and fire very fast
>all 3 spells are the same in the fact that they shoot low damage projectiles but in different forms, either all at once or in a constant stream
>F skill is short range teleport comparable to ruckus' range with low cooldown (3 or 4 seconds)
>Q is shoot a slow moving giant green orb that can reach out and heal teammates within a short range (like 1 meter)
>if it hits a teammate that teammate heals himself and whoever is around him for 5 seconds within 1/2 meter range
>if it hits the ground it fucking vanishes
>ultimate is to summon a giant ghost skull that floats up and shoots at everyone with eye lasers and shit
pic related is what the book should look like
original idea not stolen from Ziggurat $100%

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>its been like this for 3 minutes now
HELP

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Anyone else think its ridiculous how the new pip gun costs 200 crystals & its just a recolor? That's 4 weeks worth of gems.

>>166595558
After looking at them all... nope. Some are less bad than others, but you'll always want to change things around.

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Dont mind me, just posting the best Evie color scheme

>>166595558

I'm using basic Ruckus but it's not one of my mains

>>166596017

It's chinese new year and the gimmick is that it changes Pip's ult to transform people into roosters

>>166595545

A character that is forced to take a vulture playstyle (you can't kill any frontliner before they kill you if you're both at full health, even with 3x poison bolts) is just as much of a detriment to the team as a kinessa that stays a mile out from the point.

The spy in TF2 had full invisibility and a 1-hit kill, as well as a primary weapon that was effective at a sizeable range. The spy in TF2 was also never viable at any point in time.

>>166595443
nah i am tired of shitposting

>>166596053
Disgusting.

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>>166596389
no u

christ the pve mode is shit, they just doubled the health and damage and called it a day.
the only tactic I know of is pip ult +bomb king ult.
maybe skye could work with the poision bolts plus her ult?

Post some good Torvald loadouts/builds

>>166579838
Evie doesn't regen health in her ice block as a default function of it, btw. You have to specifically build her for that.

>>166596053
>annoying teen covered in dorito dust
wow what a fuckin overwatch ripoff

>>166596461
Black Ice >*

So Deft Hands is the new Aggression I see

>>166595651
I have a vague idea for a frontliner that I thought would be cool.
>Huge skeleton knight frontliner
>m1 is swing a giant sword, m2 is block using his shield, preventing 75% of the damage but he moves very slowly and there's no cooldown on it
>one of his abilities could be to throw a bone like a boomerang which you guide with your crosshairs
>when he ults a wall of bones grow out of the ground in a radius around him preventing enemies from running away and he becomes CC immune
I mostly just thought that would be a neat ultimate for a new champion to have.

>>166595763
RIP

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>>166596931

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>theres no card to increase the duration of runic blast
you just KNOW thats gonna be talent

Is there a point in saving Radiant Chests?

>>166590070
No, I don't. Do any of you morons have any, I repeat ANY, reading comprehension at all?

>>166590021
>>166589332
One of them ripped off the other, I never said Evie ripped off Mei. You're all just powerfully, powerfully fucking retarded on every level to realize this.

>>166591250
These are completely different games. Goddamn is this really the best this general has in terms of argument?

I'm fucking tired. You've won with your ignorant fucking teenage moron "I'll-repeat-the-same-bullshit-lie-over-and-over" strategy. You're literally the dumbest fuckers I've ever seen and this general is a dumpster fire.

Just stop posting. I don't know if the servers can handle any more stupidity in a single day.

>>166597568
Of course. It's even in the datamine.

>>166595651
What gaem?

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>>166596053
nah

>>166582463
Almost every chick in games is hot.

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>>166596578
thoughts?

>>166597603
you keep saying you will go away and you keep posting

>>166595443
continuing the shitposting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIxcqHA76wE
Mercy ultimate ripoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnxegI_lYA8
Hanzo ultimate ripoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8f-9LHMtk8
McCree ultimate ripoff

>>166586594
Torvald is fucking broken and should be buffed immediately.

>>166586594
>t. got stomped by torvald

>>166598201
>t. got rekt as torvald

>>166591603
The mechanic, if reimplemented, should be obvious and not a glitch like it was before. The fact that it was a glitch that was thus undocumented for regular players was the real problem, imo.

Holy shit I left to eat and play FIVE HOURS ago and this sperglord's still jerking off about quake arena clones?

>>166593880
Makoa and the default voice sound so similar. Maybe the tweak of one affected the other? That would be super dumb though.

>>166595069
You can buy different voice lines and looks.

>>166598454
That's dedication, if I ever saw some. Not even playing the games he both has and determining for himself what he feels is better, just shitposting.

>>166586594
>>166598201
I need a pic of Torvald drinking from a teacup labelled "Frontline Tears"
The cup should be in his left hand, pinky out.

>>166597849
ziggurat
find it on steam
dont mean to advertise it but its very fun and underrated

>>166598381
It's time for Hi-Rez to accept that champions can span two different roles and that shoehorning them into a certain role can often ruin them. How to fix Drogoz:
-Nerf/remove the card that allows Drogoz to spam fire spit.
-Make it so he can't turn as sharply when he's ulting so that it can actually be feasibly dodged by tanks
-Somehow bring back an option to have his old momentum whether that's through new cards or the talent system they're rolling out

>>166598454
Can't he just jerk off to Alyssa and Pixie like a normal person?

>>166572606
No no no this is all wrong, why do devs of these games keep changing the projectile physics?
I was a demon with hanzo in overwatch before they 'buffed' his arrow speed, now i can't do shit with him and half the fun with him was predicting my opponents movement habits.
I haven't played pip yet since the change but god I hope he's not too different.

>>166599306
the radius is just bigger spergy

>>166599481
g-good wait why is it bigger? it was already hueg

>>166599548
because shitters

>>166599481

It's not bigger, the damage fall off is better. Direct hits do the same damage.

Same happened to BK.

>>166599481
>>166599548
>>166599601

>BK
bomb radius similar to Pip's
DAMAGE FALLOFF (minimum at the outer edge) increased from 15% to 30%

>PIP
bomb radius untouched
DAMAGE FALLOFF increased from 15% to 35%

>>166598189
WTF Hi-Rez this is literally Torbjorn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPS4Qn0oU1I

>>166596243
>you can't kill any frontliner before they kill you if you're both at full health
I don't think any flanker can 1v1 a frontliner. It's not a flanker's job anyway.

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>Literally my first game as Torvald.
found a my new main

>>166600240

>only 100k shielding

>>166597598
When all they give you is gold? No.

>>166600240
>that enemy kinessa
It seem her trigger is, indeed, cold

>>166595651
vampire knight
melee frontliner with high sustain
m1= single target slice ok dps, great innate lifesteal
m2= aoe melee sweep high innate lifesteal dps equals ~35% of melee slice( so that against one or two opponents slice is better)
f= summoning chanels for several seconds (at least 3) before teleporting to any area within line of sight draining a fair amount of health form all enemies near the area (the destination point is visible to enemies and allies)
q= creatures of the night places a large wall of bats at a target locationany shots fired through the wall are reduced in damage, any enemys that pass through take damage over time healling you
ult= mist form for a few seconds become a large cloud of mist that obscures enemy vision, you become immune to damage and gain free flight any enemies in the mist have their health drained.

patch that removes kinessa when

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>>166600670
///////// Psionic based support champion.

>basic attack

Mindblast, shoots a transluscent ball of psychokinetic energy that can damage targets, it can also heal friendly shields making this her most important skill (it also means that you can't shoot through shields).

>right mouse button

Telekinesis, a blast of psychic energy directed at the targeted point, it will knock back heros, deployables and physical projectiles (Bomb king's bombs, Drogoz spit etc.)

>Q skill

Psychic shield, grants a shield to a single targeted ally protecting him from up to 2000 incoming damage and making him immune to status effects, if there is no target the shield will be aplied on the player. (hi-rez stole this one from me!)

>F skill

Replacement; lets you change place with the target, can target both enemy heros and deployables, can't target friends (to avoid griefing).

>ultimate

Mind control, takes control of the targeted enemy for 4 seconds, the controlled enemy can attack his own team members and be attacked by them, can be used to waste his ultimate and cooldowns.

>>166600670
>meelee
I hope they don't fall for this meme, I hate pure meelee characters in shooters.

>>166600949
it ws sort of a thought experiment on how to mak a non-obnoxious melee
in that he'll win most melee fights till you get the higher tiers of cauterize and his q makes him resistant to poke,
but,
he's slow and his only gap closer is heavily telegraphed and so can't be used to chase, only engage so most people will be able to get away from him

>2.4k gold every week through quests

t-thanks hi-rez

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>>166599898
Damage falloff decreased. Worst possible scenario damage got increased.
Oh, and here's a comparison between BK old and new radius.

>>166601782
NOW BUY THOSE FUCKIN RECOLORS

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What is the best green item for a tank with no healer? Life Rip, Kill to Heal or Veteran.

>>166601960
I will next year when these quests have earned me enough gold for one

>>166602136
Veteran

>>166600670
>start of game
>2 vampire knights get on the point
>they start slicing eachother and leeching each other's health
>eternally fighting over the point while everyone else is doing something else because no one wants to get close to them
i can see this happening

>>166600824
>F skill
>friendly makoa ults
>fernando tries to run away
>evie tries to blink away
>gets teleported back and gets slapped by giant turtle dick
love this idea

>>166602136
depending on who you are

if youre makoa and theres plenty of squishies on the enemy team then get kill to heal so you can just grab one and kill them for a health bonus

if youre fernando/ruckus and theres a lot of big meaty targets on the enemy team get life rip

they fixed veteran so now it heals you for the actual amount that it was supposed to
imo veteran needs a buff now

>>166600490
w-was a short g-game.
no b-bully

Is it just me or does Pip really make an amazing pair with Torvald?

Torvald doesn't require heals as frequently as others and the healing potion restores most of his health, Pip can dish out a lot of long range damage compared to others healers, Pip's slow makes enemies more vulnerable to Torvald's short ranged ray, Pip is generally annoying to kill because of his mobility but this is countered by most CCs like Makoa's hook or Sha lin's stun arrow, Torvald can save him in these moments of vulnerability giving the chance to jump away and resume fighting.

Is this the birth of a new meta?

>>166602556
aaaaaa im an idiot

>Aggression removed
>shitters just start buying Deft Hands now
I guess they won't learn until Hi-Rez removes everything but Wrecker and Cauterize

>>166602807
deft hands can be good. might not be muh meta but it comes in handy

>>166602807
>no enemy tank or healer
>picking anything but deft

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>>166595651
A gorilla support.
M1: Throws crap. Enemies hit are revealed and their screens are smudged.
M2: Gorilla leap. Can be used as an escape skill or to jump into the fray. Enemies landed on are mauled and dazed.
Q: Bananas. The gorilla grabs a handful of bananas out of a pack on its back and throws one every time you hit M1. Eaten bananas leave behind peels, which when stepped on, cause enemies to slide in whatever direction they were travelling.
F: Climb. For a short while the gorilla can climb on vertical surfaces, from which it can throw bananas, crap, or leap.
Ult: The gorilla goes bananas, grabbing the closest enemy by the legs and waving them around like a mace. Each hit landed on a foe does damage to both the grabbed enemy and the hit enemy. This lasts until the ult runs out, or the grabbed enemy dies.

>>166603085
I'll pick a blue, yellow, or green :)

>>166603204
But that's just ripping off Overwatch!

>>166603085
>not picking bulldozer to counter bomb king and kinessa

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Now this is art!
Transporter is for some reason leaving behind these red squares.

>>166603623
>not picking illuminate to counter the enemy sha lin

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>>166603085
>no enemy tank or healer
what kind of games are you playing dawg

>>166603896
>m-muh comp
lol tryhard can't win without his crutch heros

>>166602702
Pip is p. fuging underrated as a healer in general. He just requires the team to bunch together for the burst heal.

Either i'm playing against literal retards, or Torvald sucks because of range and lack of mobility.

>>166604024
>tanks and supports
>crutch heroes
what did he mean by this?

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what the fuck was this game

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>>166603456
>tfw Overwatch has a monopoly on gorilla characters

Payload is so much more fun than Siege now that they give extra money.

>>166604415

How

>>166603085
>playing shalin
>no tank or healer
????

>>166604415
Best Knight.

>>166595651
Humanoid spider themed bard support
LMB: Projects sound waves onto enemies from his lute for 450 damage every 0.75 seconds, holds 6 strings. Reload by replacing the strings.
RMB: Plays a healing melody that instantly heals 1000 hp of a teammate and gives minor heal over time after that (higher than grover)
F: Buries himself underground like spiders in WC3 where he is immune to all damage for 2 seconds. Can move underground at 50% movement speed, cannot be seen.
Q: Plays a song that buffs one of his teammates for incresed movement speed for 4 seconds. If no teammate is hit, increases his own movement speed and does 15% more damage for 2 seconds.
ULT: Uses his spiders to web him strings that he hits so strong it immobilizes all enemies within the player's radius for 3 seconds, removes all active cooldowns.

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We need a puppet master. He could take control of an enemy player & manipulate them with his strings.

>>166605269
another interesting idea: heroes should be both fun for playing and playing against them

your idea a shit

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>tfw unflankable
>spam clones and dps until they have to pussy out
>slap them with a shatter when they try to run

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>>166595651
ayy lmao alien who grooves to sick beats and provides buffs for his team. he could be like a clone of lucio

>>166605532
Well there's only one champion that fits that so his idea fits right in

>>166605269
I agree, they need to pander to my mind control fetish.

>>166604025
With the card that reduces cooldown the heals are very good specially with a 2 tank comp.

>>166605552
>shatter AI is fucked up and your clones remain stationary instead of chasing

>>166567862
>>166565470
You're probably not even in the thread anymore but I'll reply anyways.
First of all, when two games draw inspiration from the EXACT same sources, yes, there are going to be similarities. Both games have taken tons of inspiration from the likes of TF2, MOBAs, and more.
And if you're going to say "No Overwatch did that, Paladins just copied OW!", then you're wrong, because both games have been in development for years and a game company as small as Hi-Rez cannot "rush out" a game as good as Paladins in the space of a few months just because OW seemed to be where it's at.
Second of all, it's undeniably an original game. Even if all the things you call ripoffs were, then the game is still original in that it adds a fuckton more content and playstyle.
Third of all, none of the shit in this game is even a ripoff. Fernando, Drogoz, Kinessa, Viktor and Ruckus I would understand would seem like ripoffs. But everything else OW fanboys call ripoffs reek of finding problems where there just aren't. If the aforementioned classes were never in the game, I doubt anybody would think the rest were ripoffs. Nevertheless, they aren't ripoffs.
Forth of all, Blizzard is more than guilty of "borrowing" character designs. Skye, Evie, and Ruckus were in the game before Sombra, Mei, and D.Va were ever announced for OW; notice the dates of all these videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkKr5CXX3XA&feature=youtu.be&t=329 Evie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QffHrYBdUs0 Ruckus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXWq0Q2WRv0 Skye
Not just from Paladins, either. They even stole from Gigantic, which is a CURRENT GEN GAME.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QG6KS3e-54 Notice at the end, the character HK-206(Which Bastion was ripped off from).
And the entirety of TF2

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>>166605552
Killing that one Skye every time she tries to flank you is the best.

>>166606306
was this really worth your time?

>>166606306
You can't make a blizzdrone stop drinking the OW kool-aid, just don't reply to them

>>166606306
shhh no more arguing just memes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V91bBUtPTA

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>can't spam vgs anymore at the end of a match

>>166607384
Only sometimes vgs stops working.

>>166605532
If its for a short time/long cooldown it isn't any worse than BK's constant stuns.

>>166607270
i fuccin love that voice
gives me tf2 soldier vibes

>>166607507
Too bad they couldn't get the Toy Story voice actor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXvR6yxUVSw

>>166579917
Same guy also almost 100% predicted the Hanzo cinematic to a T, because of how terrible Blizzard's writing is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGjzzmHD9nk

>>166607270
>skin don't change particles or the ultimate
Sasuga low-rez

>try to kill deathball setups
>Torvald is literally a deathball enabler
Can't Hirez make up their mind?

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New meta?

>>166603623
>bulldozer to counter bomb king
wat

>>166604415
whats PVE like? is it just normal game but against bots?

>>166609810
Yeah, pretty much. You get a lot of credits from the start and bots are at their hardest.

How can I make credits efficiently as a flanker?

I'm pretty sure to do my job properly I'm pretty much required to be away from the objective.

is there a semi-accurate tier list for this game yet?

i know a few months ago drogoz, cassie, and androx were pretty much S-tier.

>>166611127
>I'm pretty sure to do my job properly I'm pretty much required to be away from the objective.

What was your first clue?

>>166611127
Not necessarily, pick easy targets: squishies that are far from their teammates or frontliners if they are alone in the point

>>166611227
Tiers are for queers.

>playing the test map
>enemy drogoz ulted me 7 times regardless of how much health i had or if there was someone closer
>kinessa was so shit she complained about the enemy tyra

this will never end, will it?

>>166611423
I don't get it.

>>166611504
What I usually do is go behind enemy lines, and when I'm not doing that I try to get people off the horse close to their spawn to make them waste time.
I'd say that puts me away from the objective.

>>166611508
but your tears over tiers taste good you fucking queer

>>166609570
Stickies count as deployables IIRC.

>>166609810
Yes, but the bots have specializations. Like the Bariks spam turrets.