/palg/ - Paladins General

First for CPM means credits per minute

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>>166353305
>image from my screenshot gets used

nice

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>Playing Ruckus
>Hear drogoz ult
>see him approach at rapid speed
>He's about 2 feet away from me
>Jam F and sidestep
>Lizard faceplants the wall
werf

>>166353632
lies. his ult doesnt stop if he hits a wall. he lierally just has to turn his camera

>>166353632
>be barik
>hear drogoz ult
>hes heading straight at me
>pull off a crazy dodge, literally rocket around him 1 inch before he reaches me and get behind him
>he turns on a dime and punches me anyways

ive been robbed off of the most amazing feel ever

feels bad man

>>166353893
I didn't say this drogoz was good. That's why he missed.

Teleporting as Ying is an effective way to counter Drogoz Ult since it counts as a hit if he hits your illusion. Shame they never uses it on me though

>>166353501
Cums per minute

o/ =^.~=

>>166354659
Hey baby, wanna suck my dick?

Post your smuggest bomb.

I fucking love Bomb King

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>>166354753
>tfw 250 ping in every game
>So it's near damn impossible to play the big beautiful bomb king

>>166355086
who doesn't

>>166355180
He hurts my body and face a lot. But dangit, I love him too.

>>166355117
Anyone ever got that lag bug where he starts swinging his arms really fast but throw no bombs, and the only way to fix it is by dying?

>>166355517
Yes. I also had poppy bomb bug out so I couldnt use it the entire match even after death.

>>166355517
Yep. but that was patched in the last patch.

>>166355576
>>166355598
Maybe now i'll play BK more often.

>>166355576
I was so fucking mad when poppy stopped working on Fish Market.

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>>166355517
i also had this happen with drogoz, where my launcher was flailing wildly with bugged shooting sounds

>>166355713
Oh that was the best thing ever
>payload rolls out of mid through the tunnel
>throw a poppy
>triple kill

>>166355713
>>166355789
torvalds ult is gonna be amazing on fish market

>>166355713
but god damn its nearly useless now

>fish market
>bomb king
>enemy team caps
>theyre pushing near the edge of the map
>lay down a poppy and wait for someone to walk over it
>enemy cassie does
>pop her
>she just boops a little over the cart, nearly falls down to the docks
>she didnt buy any resilience

its kind of pathetic now

at least before it had a purpose, however gimmicky it was

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>>166356487
This is a must if you enjoy poppy-bombing.

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>>166356869
ohsweetjesus
That's going to be my go-to from now on.

>>166356869
i like being discreet about it and using it at the right time
people dont look at their feet in this game so you can just lay one down and pop it when you need to

>>166358879
i found people just shoot bombs that are stuck walls/floors. and they glow so theyre hard to miss - but whatever works for you

>People say drogoz isn't complete shit

He's a blimp with an enormous hitbox. Every DPS blows him the fuck out with ease.

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I'm trying to get into competitive so i can have serious matches. Should i just pick who the fuck i want in casual, not worry about winning or losing, and just get 12 characters to mastery 4?

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>>166359903
>guys! Im terrible at drogoz!

>>166360459
Losing often will mean that you'll be gradually matched with even worse people in casual but I don't think it will affect your competitive ranking.

How many more do you need and who do you have to choose from?

>>166360540
>f skill shoots you up lile a flare where you are more visible than on the ground behind a building, instead of actually letting you retreat or attack like everyone else's movement skill do

what are you trying to prove

>>166360540

Well, he's shit. Why strain yourself to git gud at a shit hero? Could just play someone good instead.

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>>166360901

>Think Drogoz is shit because he's an easy slow target
>Palg tells me how to be fast
>Play fighter jet Drogoz and carry games
>Paladins is so much fun!
>Drybear fixes fighter jet mode

>Drogoz is shit again and is only good for fire spit

He's not useless but the fun in playing Drogoz is gone for me. I'd rather play Pharah.

>>166359903
just because you can't go faster than androxus dosen't mean he's shit
he had a fine showing in the recent tournament and his winrate is fine across all levels of skill

>>166361202
I'm not really sure what I was expecting to get out of this.

You seem to have some space there to continue leveling your characters up without having to suffer through too many unwinnable games though. Start by instapicking a damage or flanker and then switch if you feel you might have a better chance of winning if you go with one of your underleveled supports or Fernando (or Torvald once he gets released).

>there are people in this thread that are shit at Drogoz

How can you be so bad? He's so easy to do well with.

>>166360459
Yes.

Update when?

>>166365070
probably friday

>>166363256
>do well
it feels like shit though
somehow I can shit out damage, probably because of firespit, but playing him feels impotent as fuck because no splashdamage, and flying feels like shit too because he's even slower in the air than on land

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Thread reminder that Torvald is everybody's father, even Grover's and Pip's father, and Paladins is just a big family reunion.
But because they all have daddy issues, they all try to kill him.

Except Grohk, he's just a random orc that was bored and joined the family reunion for food.

>>166365750
as with every champion find your playstyle and use cards to enhance that playstyle.
doesnt sound like drogoz is for you.
but good drogoz can team wipe, and saying drogoz is shit is actually just you admitting your shit at using him.

>>166365818
Plot twist: Grohk is actually a girl and is everybodies mother

>>166365818
Dumbest fanfic-tier horseshit. Shut up.

>>166366071
Isn't that what all fanfic is? horseshit.

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I love playing with Brazilians, they always gives me exciting matches!

>>166366369
I thought he was theorizing.

>>166355727
>The How To Basic Bug
Slap that Skye to death!

>>166366552
Cuck.

>>166355727
I like how he sees her butt and then just straight up spaghettis.

Was it Drybear's idea to make Evie this cancerous goblin who exists to tilt inexperienced players?

>>166355727
Throwing infinite bombs at that speed should be his Ultimate.

How would you introduce sex as a fun gameplay mechanic into this game, if you had to?

>>166361927
>Drogoz had a fine showing in the recent tournament
[needs citation]
Wasn't he picked only against some scrub teams like the asian or brazilian one? Because picking Drogoz against Perdo's or Stolzey's Androxus would be a certain death.

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>>166367125
>then they all explode simultaneously when the ult timer expires

>>166367203
Characters of the opposite sex can mate during the setup time.
Mating has a chance to make the female character pregnant.
The pregnant character's movement speed gradually decreases over the course of 5 minutes.
After 5 minutes the character is rendered immobile and has to survive for 1 minute while "giving birth".
This creates an extra player slot that will be filled by players that are currently in queue.

>>166354223
Whenever I play Ying and hear Drogoz ult I always put an illusion before the tank to block it.
And then they run away from it and get punched anyway.
Feels bad man.

>>166367404
Hey well done, I can dig it. Not personally big into pregnancy but you worked that into a gameplay mechanic super interestingly. Colour me impressed.

>be BUCK
>flanking the shit out of the enemy
>30 eliminations
>11 solo kills
>7 flank kills
>rest of team (Pip, Kinessa, BK, Barik) are unable to cap point
>15 deaths, half of which are because I suicide-dived to contest the point/payload
>actually manage to stop enemy payload literally an inch away from converting for the win because I'M HERE TO FUCK
>final round
>contest 2-3 times, rack up double kills
>team still loses

Just fuck my shit up familia.

>>166368082
>blaming your team
this pretty much always means it was actually your fault

Anyone else having huge fps drops after the patch? On the plus side I can now see Grover's foliage with the lowest graphics.

>>166368143
pretty much
>flank or damage blames their team: their fault

>frontline or support blames their team: pretty much out of their hands unless they're trying to flank themselves

>>166367235
he had a 50%+winrate and had like 20+ matches, he's fine.
stop acting like he's skye tier because he's no longer the undisputed best champion in the game.

>>166366071
Spotted another person with daddy issues.
It's okay friend, Torvald loves us all

>>166368815 (You)

>>166368143
>>166368509
t.frontcucks

If I'm creaming the enemy backline to the point were I'm getting focused in 3v1s and my team still manages to not cap the point then there's something wrong with them, not me.

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Discovered this by accident.
Also If you hurt yourself with stickies BK will make Barik sounds.

>>166370449
neat. but pretty useless

drogoz is the hardest class to play

drogoz takes skill

My favorite class is the Ying. How hard do I have to fight to get her in ranked?

>>166370572
>any additional movement tech whatsoever
>useless
this nigga

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>>166371036
You make a compelling argument

>>166370449
I don't get it.

>>166370449
Dammit, now I noticed that I missed the 1st stickys knockback.

>>166371356
You can jump a bit farther if you detonate stickys under your feet.

inb4 shitters asking for Torvald nerf because they never buy wrecker

Special phrases that you've found out

When you kill Cassie as Bomb King he says "Oh look, she rolls even after that"

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>>166370449
>lose half your clip and deny yourself off of regen just to get 1 meter farther

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>>166354223
It's part of the reason she's my favorite, it's so much fun to bait people.

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>>166375939
Good. Post more lizard getting btfo

ded

>>166376748
What are those character bars on the top?

>>166376853
spectator mode

>>166376989
gay, they seem useful.

DED

GAM

Shotguns are considered aoe damage for blast shields purposes?

>>166378637
Nnnnno?
Things that go 'bewm' on impact are splash.

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>>166378637
No. They're many pellets that each deal direct damage.

>>166373184

Grover has a couple lines about forest fires if he catches on fire.

>>166373184
if you burn Nando he will say: "hot, hot, hot... and spicy"

>>166370601
>>166370659
Drogoz is actually kinda hard to play against competent people on hitscan champions because they'll shoot you down if you stay airborne longer than needed

That's mainly the reason why I've stopped playing as barascalie. This and second DD constantly picking bomb king.

>>166379526
It doesn't help that he kinda floats down instead of drops. If he dropped as fast as he shot up, then I know I'd have less trouble with him getting sniped out of the air.

>>166373184
Buck to Cassie: "Guns are better than bows!"
Tyra to Mal: "I'll take your mask."

>>166379381
Mal says "You think fire can kill ME? and Skye says "I got HOTTER~"

What comp rating can be considered good?

>>166382245
5000+

>>166382245
4000

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OVERWATCH GETTING CAPTURE THE FLAG
https://streamable.com/mcld9

HOW CAN PALADINS EVEN COMPETE

>>166383260
fuck off

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>>166383260
>blizzard is yet again inventing a brand new gamemode never seen before!

>>166383260
Woah... so this is the power... of Blizzard...

Truly pioneers of the genre...

Blizzshits will defend them releasing ONE gamemode 8 months after release.

>>166383260
overwatch doesnt have siege mode
how can it even compare :^)

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>Be Ying main
>Got bored of being constantly raped on the objective because I'm all alone
>Never played Bomb King
>Try him out
>He's actually very fun and his ult can change games if your team helps you
>He needs actual skill to play well

wtf I became a Bomb King main
Why can't Junkrat be more like Bomb King?

Why is viktor so fucking easy to play

I had a game where i went 50-2 with 120k dmg next guy on my team did 35k

>>166384641
because there were no hitscans on the enemy team

>>166384774
No their team had 3 or 4 hitscans, their top damager was a viktor with 75k damage

Also it feels like playing a fast tf2 heavy with no spread can easily kill 2 or 3 guys aiming for the head with the ridiculous hitboxes

>>166384641
Because he's COD: the character.
Any retard that knows how to decently aim can wreck people with him.

>>166383260
I'm guessing it's just going to be tied to the event, so when that's over, so is the game mode. That's a shame since capture the flag is always my favorite mode in shooters.

>>166384641
>never played cawodooty
>just sorta ok as cawodooty man

lol;_;

>>166385172
Ive sunk about 5k hours in tf2 around 1000 on heavy alone so i guess thats why it seems very easy to destroy with him, its the same kind of aiming.

>>166383260
>Capture the flag
>While Tracer, D.va, Lucio, Sombra, Genji exist

Drogoz is very fun to play but i notice your overrall performance with him depends on the map, A LOT.

It can seem like you're doing ok getting kills and shit then when the game is over you notice another character on your team does almost double as damage as you, and in other maps you are missing a lot and doing mediocre then game ends and you top damage by far.

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Maeve is a qt brown loli catgirl.

>>166387119
Yeah, Drogoz sucks on a lot of maps.

>>166384641
He's one of those characters who wrecks at low levels but performs much worse as people learn how to deal with him. Literally any flanker fucks his shit up.

>>166387210
she better be.

The last few champs aside from Tyra was more of a wacky kind of champ. I want more badass or waifu champ. Those are the kind of champs that will attract people(maybe not the right kind), but still it's more meat for the grinder.

Anyone wants to play with me? I'm new to this game but i don't suck i can aim decently and always pull my own weight.

In game name : mermoco

>>166387210
>Tfw Paladins will never have a loli champ because Overwatch or TF2 doesn't have lolies

Is this despair?

>>166388204
I would but I'm old to this game and I can't aim for shit and always drag my team down with me

>>166389117
That's the dumbest reasoning I've heard.
Also, Evie was supposed to be a loli, but the model looked ugly and the change was reverted.

>>166389165
i don't care about that its just more fun to play with someone, also there are champion that dont require aiming such as Fernando

>>166390296
>>166389165
You're gonna love Torvald, his main attack is a very lenient lock-on, doesn't do much damage, sure, but still.

>>166389165
So what are you doing here grandpa?

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is 4400 comp rating any good?

guru says my elo is 1600 shits broken af

>>166390454
Best Gloriana.

>>166390454
gotta go fast

Now I want a female frontliner that is a girl riding a tank. Work on it HiRez! and she better have tons of Girls und Panzer references in her voice lines!

How do people use spitfire on drogoz?

I tend to never use skills or ultimate i just play it like a tf2 soldier :/

>>166392771
Use the spit ability and then shoot it to blow it up and knock people back. It's pretty overpowered if you have the right cards.

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>>166390748
>>166392678
didn't answer my question

>win 2 games in party

Fuck this quest

>>166394559
isn't that easy? just make a 5-man party and stomp people.

>>166394736
I don't have any friends

>>166394908
Here's easy mode: go to a pro player stream and get in the viewer games. Ezpz pubstomping.

>>166393508
4400 is good. Is that 1600 elo in ranked?

>>166394908
add me: mermoco

and we can play

Always buy cautherize first on drogoz, then max out nimble.

People fucking freak out and can't deal with the 1 v 1s

>>166395669
yeah i don't understand why it says that...

>>166396074
Does nimble affect flying speed?

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>>166395798
I'm from argentina and even here my ping is 100+

>>166396617
I've been curious, is there a server for SA countries other than BR?

>>166396683
No. You could just change the region to see for yourself.

HERE'S THE WINDUP!

>>166384379
Because no one wants to hug Junkrat

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Is there any reason to play comp if pros play casual?

>>166396617
Are you having problems with the server besides the high ping? Most of my games yesterday ended prematurely because of server problems, so I had to change to the NA server.

>>166397353
Clearly you play comp to avoid the pros.

>>166397617
Just the usual /"Player disconnected" "Unable to connect to Steam" "Connection interrupted" "NoConnectionResetV2A" "Lost connection to login and chat servers"/, though some may be because my own internet is shit

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>>166396492
I really don't know but i don't even use spitfire and i just rape stuff, nimble really makes you take much less damage.

>>166396074
>cauterize

why

his rockets are not a machine gun, and actually require you to aim
which means you can miss
which also means the debuff wont apply

cauterize is better left on high % hit chance champions like viktor or grohk

>>166398031
also to add on to this, movement speed is huge on this kind of shooters so it seems idiotic to me not to max it ASAP, lets you make much more plays since you can flank enemies more often and just lets you be more agressive rather than staying behind the tanks spamming spitfire.

>>166398161
Because that little message or something makes people freak out and you can cautherize entire groups of people from above.

>>166398309
personally i couldnt give any less shit if i get cauterized or not because it doesnt give them any advantage because i am never near healers in the first place and i only prioritize damage/speed items

>>166374718
its greatly useful to run from a flank or travel across the map

How do I use Fire Spit efficiently? It is hard to hit anyone with it, even with the speed increasing card.

>>166400758
shoot it

>>166400758
Wuh? You just aim above the person or group you want to hit and shoot. It's pretty brain dead and I'm struggling to see the difficulty.

>>166397843
Lol the servers have been shit for everyone
Been in several servers where the whole team claimed lag

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>enemy Buck
>an unstoppable juggernaut
>constantly leaping all over
>allies never bother to group up

>ally Buck
>leaps onto the point when the entire team is on there
>does nothing of use

>>166401512
>>166401850

So I have to blow it up while it is still in the air? The skill description wasn't really clear to me.

>>166402697
Yes. You have to shoot the bubble before it pops, hits the ground, or hits someone else.

>>166402849

Okay then. Thanks.

>>166403090
Also it's got a bit of a rubber-band effect, so it starts off slow and then speeds up.

>>166402263
>me as Buck
>can hit the enemy with the tiny net while leaping around
>but can't hit a stationary target point blank

>Sha Lin and Cassie on enemy team on that one snow map with the overlook you know the one you fucktard
>playing as Fernando so I can't really move that well
>we manage to pop three of them off cap first thing first
>Cassie and Sha Lin mow us down because Tyra, Viktor and Mal'Damba can't aim for shit
>Grover tries, bless his heart, but their Makoa hooks him into rapesville USA

>rinse repeat literally all fucking game while I try to horse ride to flank them but of course I can't fucking do shit against both ching chong and flavor of the month alone

It's like they're pigs and can't look up.

>>166403509
Heh i do better as grover when i play it like a flanker he can 1 v 1 pretty much anyone and run away if he cant win.

ded

not yet amigo

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I've not been following development for a little while.

Has the dev team said anything about Skye being an unplayable waste of a pick that relies more on your enemy team being a collection of lobotomites than any other stealth character in the history of online games?

Because as much as I love Skye, it's a shame knowing that any time I pick her I could be helping my team out much more by making any other pick.

>>166396492
Nope.

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>Teammate picks Skye
>Oh fucking wonderful
>They have a bunch of cosmetics, the taunt etc
>Maybe it won't be so bad
>Aggression
>Fails to hit even stationary targets
>15k damage at the end of the match
H O W are people this bad

>>166373184
Makoa on fire says "What is this element?" which always makes me feel bad for the poor turtle. But also confused, like, he doesn't know what fire is? He really must not have studied the land dwellers much before deciding to put an end to their wars.

>>166408831
Where the fuck you guys take those pictures from?
Please, kind sir, share a source.

>>166408989
>Skye
>Uses her ult a grand total of twice
>ask her why
>"Oh I'm looking to get a GOOD ult" (aka potg-baiting)

>she also had aggression

>>166385110
>Paladins
>Aim

lol
Just hold down mb1 and do infinite damage

I wish Grohk didn't look so silly, or that he would at least speak normally.

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>>166409423

My buddy who plays with me drew it since he knew I liked Grohk a lot.

He has a tumblr, check him out:
https://malofantastic.tumblr.com/

>>166373184
After killing Fernando Buck says 'Is that... perfume?' It always cracks me up.
And Mal'Damba goes 'Your smile always cheers me up'. Same, Snek Man, same.

>>166408831
they havent said much, I suspect that it's because they don't really have an idea as to what to do with her given their poor track record with stealth in smite

>>166409612
May your queques always be short and team comps good. Thank you so much.

>>166396074
>cauterize

I think you mean wrecker. It's more beneficial to the team.

>>166409878

At this point I just want time bomb to be removed, so that they don't have the excuse of balancing around it anymore. A character should not be allowed to be dogshit because "she has a strong ult"

>>166409602

>he doesn't know the pleasures of Grohk [VEW] or [VVGQ]

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>>166409602
>tfw we will never get this skin for Grohk in game

>>166410420
I would actually main Grohk if i had it, even if i hate his ult and Ghost Walk.

>>166410525

>hating ghost walk

But why? It's the ultimate cock-blocker and Gale is a phenomenal card that gives you hilarious in-fight sustain.

Can't argue much about his ult, though. It's only consistent use is to add another heal on top of your totem if your team is taking a pounding

>>166409970
yeah, it doesn't fit with her current playstyle and is a total bitch to balance for. it realy should be replaced with something else

>>166410774
It's just so slow without the card, i like being invulnerable for a few seconds, but i'd rather have a better escape like the other supports.

>>166410968

I suppose you could see it that way. I don't even think of ghost walk as an escape tool, except the occasional instance where it can safely get you out of line-of-sight.

I use it primarily as a stalling tactic. Drop totem > ghostwalk when you get low > drop your second (Gale'd) totem makes Grohk an absurdly sticky support versus people that can't burst him through totem's healing or disable him long enough to get him dead.

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>>166373184
How do you even trigger these?

In around 40 hours of playing I've had it happen once when I was playing Skye almost when I started, where she tells Cassie that Ruckus is available.

>>166411395
His totem's healing is super nice, but it always seems to get one shot unless i hide it behind corners.

Does having 1800 elo according to guru mean anything at all for social matches? Hell, does elo mean anything at all?

>>166411536

Really? Since the totem health buff I've actually been using it to soak damage due to how beefy it is now.

Victor and Soldier76 just make their games shitter, I reckon. They have the most braindead kits and have huge weaknesses due to said braindead kits but to make them competitively viable, developers just make them shit out damage.

They're not op, just very boring and matches without them are more fun.

>>166411618
They buffed it? I hope so, maybe i'll give Grohk another chance even if i hate his laugh.

>>166411563
No. It's an unofficial stat that has nothing to do with how Paladins does matchmaking. We have no idea how it's actually doing it, but it's possible they're using an adapted version of Smite's MM.

>>166411526
You just gotta kill right people and be lucky.
I'm more curious about some lines that are in game files but seem to be directed toward allies, Sha Lin has a lot of these, like complimenting Nando's armor or telling Ying that with friend like her he won't have any enemies soon. How do you trigger those?

>>166411714
At least Viktor does not have a fucking heal, that would be just broken.

>>166411773
see
>>166408831

His totem was bugged and only had 400 health instead of the listed 800. A little while back they fixed the bug and slapped on an additional 100 hp for good measure. A 900 hp totem is nothing to scoff at nowadays.

>>166403260
Are you me?

They got to fix that shit. Shooting someone for 200 damage point blank with the net debuff is fucking stupid when enemies halfway across the map hit me for 500 without.

>>166411907
Hope you like Viktor being able to heal for 400 every time he sprints thanks to the new Talents™ system

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>>166411785
>telling Ying that with friend like her he won't have any enemies soon
BACK THE FUCK OFF!?!?

>>166411775
I've tried asking but all I get is "no that's not how the matchmaking works." like... what's the big deal, explain.

>>166411991
It's just silly how i can hit Evie in the air with the net, but can't hit her with my normal hitscan shots.

>>166412215
It's only 250 not 400 and his jukes probably ain't good enough to escape the killing blow.
Talents kinda suck ass though.

>>166412278
Calm down, he literary friendzones himself. She's safe.

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>>166412287
Elo, on paper, is a decent system of quantifying ones skill level. Since we have no knowledge of how casual matchmaking works, people use that stat instead to see how well they're doing.
Ranked in Paladins does have its own rating, so elo for that isn't looked at... as much.

>>166412872
Yes, but, quite like the devs, that is just going "that isn't how it works" and it's infuriating to have them stonewalling about how the mechanics work.

>>166412287
forced 50%

>>166413784
>tfw 66% WR

>>166373184
Skye to sha lin " we make a perfect couple"

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>>166413535
I get how you feel, yes. But really, there's not much of anything that can be done until they actually decide to come around and reveal the system. Oh well.

>>166414287
STOP

LYING

>>166410420
Why is hirez's design team so shit at making skins?
especially bizarre since they got smite which shits out cosmetics

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>>166414387
>Skye being a complete slut
I mean, I don't know if he's telling the truth but I wouldn't be surprised.

>>166414287
I hear that alot though, I don't think it's sha lin specific

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>>166368143
>He has never experienced the Viktor/Tyra/Skye just standing a couple of feet away from the cart being useless

Pic unrelated

Drogoz's ultimate is the most frustrating thing in this game.

How do we make Grohk better?
Outside of his totem, his ghostwalk, and his range, he frankly sucks.

>>166415691
You were a Makoa who just popped his, weren't you.

>>166416194
Yes. It's not very fun to be removed from the game every 2 minutes.

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>>166415940

Have you considered that you may just be bad?

>>166416328
Well, I'm sorry they didn't let you waggle your 10k HP turtledick all over the team, but that's kinda what Drogoz does.

>>166416414
>hurr durr bad
Shock Pulse and Tempest suck. It has nothing to do with how good you are.

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>>166417138

>shock pulse is bad

wew lad

Grohk is a character with incredibly strong kit and a garbage ultimate

A support that deals comparable damage to dedicated damage dealers while still putting out very respectable amounts of healing for his frontliners while also providing hella slows and chip damage that can go around shields is nothing to scoff at.

The idea that you think he "frankly sucks" is laughable.

I make no claims to being an extraordinary player, yet I have a near 80% win rate on such a weak character.

git gud

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>>166416414
>11 hours
Gte on my level faggot.

>>166414287
Miss Daddy Issues says that to everyone that assists the kill.

>>166417679
Again.
>hurr bad
The question was how do we improve Grohk, not how do we gargle on his blue orc balls while accusing anyone who doesn't like Shock Pulse/Tempest of being bad.

>tfw we'll never surge with power ever again.

>>166418559

That's my problem with you, you sperm-guzzing cock mongler.

The only bad part of his kit is his ult. That's it. He's a good character that you seem incapable of recognizing since you're too busy attempting autofellatio.

>>166419089
>implying autofellatio isn't a worthy goal

Your points about Grohk are correct, but if you could suck your own dick that would be amazing.

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HI REZ

GIVE A PATCH DATE

NOW

>>166416414

>if i do good as a character that means that character is good

stop that.

>>166419089
Shock Pulse sucks. No need to spazz out just because you can't accept that.

Make Torvald viable GO

>>166421168
Replace the silence with a dash/teleport.

>>166421168
Increase his health to 5000
Increase his damage to 70 per tick and radious
Increase his silence to 4 seconds

>>166421168
Wrecker removed from the game, nothing else can save him

so id torvald the perfect counter to another torvald?

>>166422103
nah, they just suck eachother while doing shit all

>play kinessa, try to headshot people, miss most of my shots and be shit
>Try to aim for purely full charge bodyshots, get most elims and damage
I love playing characters meant for shitters.

>>166421168
Increase his range for starters. On both weapon and silence.

>>166422297
Hawt.

>>166421168
Haven't played him yet but looking at the streams it seems like his primary attack needs a longer range and more damage.

I wan't them to nerf the percentage of cauterise from 90% to 45% but bring back stacking with team mates. I hate how it doesn't do anything if two people have it on the same level.

>>166419936
It means the character is capable of being good, so you only have yourself to blame.
Go ahead and tell me Im wrong.

>>166424662
But not stacking means only one or two need buy it. Meaning another one or two can buy Wrecker.

>>166421320
congrats you just broke him you fucking scrub

>>166425254
you are wrong.

I can do good as many bad characters across all kinds of games. Just because I can beat people as Dan Hibiki, doesn't mean Dan is a good character.

>>166426023
>can do good as many bad characters
Bravo. You just proved yourself wrong.

>>166422720
How about his weapon gains range, but the lock-on has less auto-aim as distance increases? Adds some skill back to him too.

>>166416701
Not him but its literally a free kill, it doesn't fit with the capabilities of the others ults in the game.

>>166426497
You can dodge it, though, or shoot him before he gets to you.
I mean, it always mystifies me how people DON'T shoot the giant glowing lizard as he comes scuttling across the map to deck you in the face. Both when I play him and when I'm the target, I am utterly baffled at how people keep thinking Drogoz is bulletproof while that's active.

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Who else /25 - 30 fps on the lowest settings/ here?

>>166422720
>>166426316
Take out the lock-on entirely, make it more like Grokh's weapon, give it more damage and range.

>>166422103
Any damage with wrecker is a counter to him.

>>166426768
This. Auto-aim guns are super lame.

>>166426687
That's only doable if the Drogoz player is a literal retard and ults in front of his enemies and with low health, also none of the tanks aside Ruckuz have the damage to kill him in time reliably.

>>166427061
No, I mean while he's in-flight and en-route to your face. I know he goes pretty fast, but he can be shot.

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>>166353305
>mfw my garbage oc is used as OP pic

I guess if I died right this moment there would still exist a trace of me in the world.
Really makes me think.

Remove frogposters.

>>166421168
Just nerf Wrecker to how it was before. If some characters have too much shield then just nerf the shield health.

>>166416194
>>166426497

It's an extremely frustrating ultimate to deal with, especially if you play tank characters. It recharges super quickly, so you can guarantee that you'll be getting slammed for all of your health on a regular basis. It needs a damage cap. There should not be a fucking 1 hit kill skill in the game.

>>166427498
Reduce its damage and give it a strong knockback plus a stun, yay or nay?

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>>166427498
>tfw Morale Boost 3 Drogoz
>Front Liners always produce this kind of salt in the post match chat
Get fucked

>>166427708
Enjoy while it lasts, It will get nerfed eventually.

>>166427701
Yes, let's french kiss the enemy point blank while being in post-fisting cooldown and having not ended their life.

>>166427701

Make him impact the ground and produce a shockwave that stuns enemies in the center and knocks back enemies further out.

>>166427498
>>166427708
I'll admit, sometimes being able to reliably pull off that ult is how I can actually deal with some frontliners, as well as express my utter disdain for Kinessas, Ivans, and other people who happened to piss me off that match.

I have seen a Pip literally throw himself in front of it to save a Makoa though.

>>166427184
As Makoa there is only time to get one shot off after he comes around the corner. Not usually enough to kill him. But I don't think it's too bad, as still have a chance to dodge him, and your teammates should easily take him down either after he hits you or before. So he sacrifices his life for a somewhat risky move that might be wasted. Seems okay to me.

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>>166427914
You honestly believe that, don't you?

>>166427464
Congrats, you've ruined Makoa since they lowered his shield amount and people can take it out nigh instantly without wrecker, and can still buy caut to ruin the heals he needs.

>>166427970
Or just have him launch into the air and breathe fire over a medium sized area, maybe have it deny all or a significant amount of healing and alright damage

>>166427926
Well, they're stunned. But the rest of the enemy team will instantly kill you, yeah.

>>166427970
>turn him into a Reinhardt, but it's a circle instead of a cone
>it's instantly neutered by Resilience
Yeah nah.
>>166427996
The problem for me is usually positioning. If I try to go from the front, I rarely make it to the intended target unless they're busy with the rest of the team. If they're unoccupied, they have a nasty habit of being able to sidestep me every time without even using mobility skills.

>>166428207
There's too much fire as it is.

3 champions need to get nerfed to make this game tolerable

Evie's mobility
Cassie's mobiilty
Drogoz ultimate

Fix those and the cancer is gone.

>>166428271
>neutered by Resilience
like many other ults in the game?
honestly it's nice that you can buy cards to shut down certain ultimates

>>166428409
But he's a dragon, or at least wants to be one

>>166428410
Git gud, scrub.

>>166428436
Only ones I can think of really are Damba's, Pip's, and the stun from BK's blast (though if people survive it then you didn't get close enough). Maybe Cassie's marking? Evie's snowstorm only slows you down if you're in it.

On a different topic, Not!Nintendo Powerglove costume for Torvald when

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So I cannot get past a single loading screen today.
It just never connects in the map loading screen and I get booted out to the menu for no real reason. The bot I'm replaced with plays like shit and probably ends up costing the game.
It's happened already on three straight matches, where I have to wait like 15 minutes between each before even being able to queue up again.

Fucking sausage, LoRez.

>>166428904
I love the not power glove. It's so good.

>>166428998
Bad.

>>166428765
Grovers, Yings, and the important part of Grohks are countered by cauterize.
Skyes was also countered by resilience before the nerf.

>>166428410
Evie needs the mobility. Cassie's range is maybe a bit long but that's about it. Drogoz's ult isn't that bad. You can sometimes dodge it and he usually dies too after using it.

If I can't get my ELO much higher than 1800 should I just give up?

>>166429437

Evie in the right hands is too difficult to lock down and shits out damage. Cassie is fine if she can't just dodge roll constantly. Drogoz needs counterplay on his ultimate besides "le just shoot him"

>>166428410
Evie is the squishiest flank bar none, only Androxus comes somewhat close to her softness. Without her mobility she'd be as easy to kill as a Kinessa that never unscopes.

>>166430395
>Evie is the squishiest flank bar none

>Evie 1800 HP with a Blink, Soar, and Ice-Block

>Skye is 1800 HP with laughable invis

What did he mean by this?

>>166429428
I was only listing the ones countered by Resilience. Wasn't aware Skye's used to be stopped by that. You'd think Blast Shields would be the sole stopping point for that.

>>166430617

Must be an Evie main :^). I understand that she's squishy, but she's nigh uncatchable in the right hands.

>>166430617
>implying that's any sort of argument
If anything that just means that Skye needs a buff. Buck can self heal and leap tall buildings with a single bound, and Androxus can totally absorb all front damage (and heal from it with the right card), and then fly away.
It's not about how effective their abilities are, it's how they need those abilities to offset the fact that they die extremely easily unless they can bug out quick. And ice block isn't even a mobility skill. If anything it's a "feed the enemy team" skill because everyone can immediately snipe her once the block shatters.

>>166431318
>Evie is the squishiest flank bar none

This isn't true, is my argument. I don't give a shit about whatever it was you were talking about, but trying to pass off Evie as the squishiest flanker is laughable when Skye effectively doesn't exist because of how low her health is and how close she needs to be to be effective.

>>166426687
I once solo ulted Drogoz as Ruckus, just to kill him before he could one punch me.
Never regretted it.

>>166426768
Why the fuck he even has a lock-on with his range? Like, you could not miss while being so close even if you've tried.

>>166427971
>I have seen a Pip literally throw himself in front of it to save a Makoa though.
And people say that Pip is not a support.

>>166430314
Fuck elo and just enjoy a game you scrub.
Eventually you will git gud one day.

>>166411785
>Sha Lin has a lot of these, like complimenting Nando's armor
>not complimenting Fernando's big hot lance instead
You have failed me, Hi-rez.

Playing in a stack with friends that communicate almost feels like cheating.

>>166432460
It is

>>166432460
>cheating
only in casual mode.
casual mode needs a solo queing only mode to fix the pubstomp parties shitting up the game

>>166428975
I had the same problem, any idea why it happened?

>>166426702
>always in the top 3 fastest people to load the game
>PC is 6+ years old and hard drive is always full to bursting

Most games I'm an average paced loader

>>166433058
>>166432584
Lord knows I'm not trusting randoms when I play competitive. Not like anyone else can't do it either though.

>>166432115
Exactly. Just have fun and best case scenario you look it up and it turns out you got a good ELO.

the fuck is elo

>>166434909
It's a ranking of how good you are, or at least how much you win.

Someone make more Lewds

>>166433658
Honestly, I'm as clueless as you are.
I blame LoRez. It's like a tradition at this point.

What's strange is I've never seen it mentioned by anyone else here. There's the EAC shit, the lag shit, you know, the usual, but never this.

>>166426702
>tfw 150fps on medium settings with ~90 ping
I could probably go higher, but I don't want to risk it.

>>166434909
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

The elo ranking for players in casual is hidden from but paladins.guru gives an estimate.

All I want is one good game tonight. Not against a 5-man of pros, no idiots on my team who blame everyone else for their failures.

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>>166439870
>tfw being the 5 man and pressing B whilst spawn camping

>>166440194
>not spamming [VEL]

>>166440381
which one is that?
also, is there a list of all the chat taunts?

>>166440508
http://paladins.gamepedia.com/Voice_Guided_System

>>166440381
But enemies cant hear it.

>>166429437
>>166430395
Evie won't need the mobility if she is readjusted to be beefier than Andro. She also doesn't need the excessive mobility. Evie's mechanics are just a gimmick; taking that gimmick out won't really affect anything if you're actually good at Evie.

Drogoz's problem is the easy interaction between Spit and his LMB rather than his ult. Remove that interaction and he's still viable without hurting him a lot.

>>166440957
What is the point then?

>>166441027
evies would die without their mobility skills.

>pip who insists he's a healer
>doesn't buy items until final round
>spends game giving people advice like "get more kills" like it's brilliant
>i'm top of team, he has more deaths than kills
>spends several minutes in my next match spamming whispers at me about how i suck

If he played Kinessa, he'd literally have been the worst person possible.

>>166441095
Bucks die with or without their mobility skills, and Evie has two. Your point?

>>166441081
Team communication. Fernandos [B] can be heard by everyone though - at least the laughing one which I think is the default emote

>>166427498
>>166426497
It's counterable with teamwork~

>>166441182
My point is her mobility is the only thing keeping her alive.

>>166441246
When are they going to nerf teamwork?

>>166441182
Did you see how much health Buck has? Evie is made of glass.

>>166441310
Next patch. If more than one person attacks an enemy, they'll get healed instead.

>>166427498
>>166426497
I think it should stay a free kill. The thing that should be nerfed is how easy Drogoz turns while using the Ult.

>>166441301
>>166441354
A rework would fix that.

She has the same problem as Ryze. Both champs cannot be buffed or nerfed without drastic changes, so the only way is a complete overhaul.

>>166441490
>The thing that should be nerfed is how easy Drogoz turns while using the Ult.
This.
He's going full speed trying to punch you in the face. This game isn't exactly realistic but he shouldn't be able to turn like he does.

>>166427498
>It needs a damage cap. There should not be a fucking 1 hit kill skill in the game.
I think this would actually be fair, but cap it at something so high only a Makoa ult can save you. The only issue is possibly Torvald having so much HP with his shields maxed.

>>166441637
C'mon, it's one of the only really fun bits Drogoz has left. Can't we have just that one?

>>166441710
Doesn't it already ignore shields?

>>166441710
Adjust it at 6000 pure damage (i.e., not affected by damage reduction).

I don't understand why you people hate Dragon Punch? Just stop playing Tyra and get someone who can dodge him.

>>166441490
>>166441637
agreed. even bombkings weak ultimate has shitty turning

>>166441835
That seems good. I'd even go for 7500. Then it's still not a guaranteed kill, but it should be pretty deadly. I play both, and I know the pain of trading ults with Drogoz.

>>166441843
>I don't understand
Try reading reading the arguments being made against it? And maybe make counter-arguments that arent just HURRR STOP PLAY X CHARACTER

>>166441843
Yeah, as a Kinessa main, it's not even a threat. Never even makes it to my hiding spot in a tree on the wrong side of the map.

>>166411714
>Soldier76
>not op

Ha. Good one anon.

>>166441843
During the last adjustments to Drogoz's skills, his Spitfire combo is untouched while his flight capabilities were hit. The combo can generate a lot of ult charge due to the large AoE. By extension, his Punch is spammable if the player is consistent in pulling off those combos, and that's an issue for an ult that is a guarantee kill.

>>166411907
>heals
>not Soldier 76's aimbot ult
Viktor would be even easier to kill with a heal, that'd mean he'd either be unable to sprint, iron sight, or grenade. On the other hand, that nonsense ult would let viktor stand in a corner and just M1 to victory.

>>166442012
Plenty of characters can easily avoid it with their move skills.
It can be completely countered by simply killing Drogoz, something that many people in this thread keep saying is too easy to do.
Some characters have ults that are just as strong or stronger. Many of which are much harder to counter.
It will at best kill one person. If that one person dying results in a loss then 4/5ths of the team didn't deserve to win anyway.

>>166430357
Le dodge him. Or shoot him and die, so he's low enough health your team can finish him off. It's an ult, you shouldn't be able to 1v1 it, but you should be able to 2v1 it, and you generally can.