/poeg/ - Path of Exile general

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>>166510014

>>166509849
>And still less quick than they would be on an input method that isn't bound to some maximum value.
Furthermore aim speed is not bound to the stick it's bound to what it's set at in game. Fucking hell you're dumber than a bag of rocks. Things like speed, acceleration and smoothing can all be configured in game or in antimicro.

>At no point does he do any "quick" aiming there.
Yes that's exactly what it is and fucking amazing at that. Show me the steam controller doing better. You can't. Things garbage brah.

>If you were following the original conversation you'd see the discussion was about MS making a $189 controller with paddles and a built in mapper.
don't care as any controller works for your arguments.

>Name a game that doesn't work with the steam controller even with an input mapper.
xbox controller works OOTB with nearly every controller supported PC game steam controller nearly EVERY SINGLE GAME will require configuring with steam's elder SHIT TIER big picture mode interface and require steam running to do so.

Why one earth would you buy a controller that doesn't even work with games, is shit to use, requires steam and offers literally not one single tangible advantage over the competition?

Fuck you're the dumbest shit eater alive

>poe is a console game now

>discussion obvious has shifted to which controller is better

i tried talking about bringing controller support to poe way before all this but you wouldn't listen. you could have prevent it. why didn't you?

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>>166415968
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is there a point where Lightning warp actually feels like teleport in d2? I'm playing both games in alternance (or like right now, at the same time) and didn't give warp enough chance I think. If not... what else?

>>166510631
I dont get it, back in 2013 I was playing PoE with my roommate. He had a setup in the livingroom with his big tv+pc+consoles and was playing PoE with a controller. I'm pretty sure its easily doable.

>>166510213
>Furthermore aim speed is not bound to the stick it's bound to what it's set at in game
Correct, and increasing the sensitivity necessarily means either having less precision at the low end, or using acceleration, both of which are undesirable for aiming.
>Yes that's exactly what it is and fucking amazing at that. Show me the steam controller doing better. You can't. Things garbage brah.
Yeah let me just buy a fucking game and practice it however much that guy practiced it so I can argue against an anonymous person on an Indonesian basket weaving image board.
>don't care as any controller works for your arguments.
No, because random controllers don't have paddles nor gyros for extra inputs.
>xbox controller works OOTB with nearly every controller supported PC game steam controller
So you're dodging the question by refusing to actually name one.
>will require configuring with steam's elder SHIT TIER big picture mode interface
No it doesn't, you can configure them through the normal client.
Not to mention you can literally just use one of the default presets if you just want it to be mapped the same way an xbox or nogames controller would be.

>>166510762
No, it has an innate base delay that can't be reduced to zero because GGG didn't want it to be spammable like Teleport. It's still reasonable fast on a 4L and the best movement skill for a caster but not as fast as a max FCR Enigma/Sorc D2 character.

>>166510980
alright, and the 4L would be?
LW + Less duration + Faster casting + ?

>>166511097
rapid decay.

>>166510969
>Correct, and increasing the sensitivity necessarily means either having less precision at the low end, or using acceleration, both of which are undesirable for aiming.
That's true of all input devices. More speed = less sensitivity. This is universally true.
>Yeah let me just buy a fucking game and practice it however much that guy practiced it so I can argue against an anonymous person on an Indonesian basket weaving image board.
The point is there's nothing impressive about steam controller and no proof anywhere because it's shitty controller. Quit dodging the point faggot.
>No, because random controllers don't have paddles nor gyros for extra inputs.
ds4 has gyro aim, so does wiimote. Nothing new. Key combinations remove the need for awkwardly placed paddles, dumpass.
>So you're dodging the question by refusing to actually name one.
Steam controller is only officially supported by a small handful of games. xbox controller support is baked into windows you fucking moron.
>No it doesn't, you can configure them through the normal client.
no you can't and you still have to have steam running either way. SHIT.
>Not to mention you can literally just use one of the default presets
they're all dogshit. I own a steam controller you retard. The thing is literally a piece of trash. Nobody uses one for anything but making one youtube video to shill it then never again.

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What's the tl:dr of the autism I'm witnessing

>>166511210
>>166511258
oh! thanks

>poeurl.com/1kU
Okay /poeg/ tell me how I make this character not have fucking shit life pool. Do I have to drop Heretic's and third curse if I ever get the damn corruption?

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This shits on a steam controller in every way:

>bigger trackpad that you can use with your thumb or finger
>fully bindable qwerty keyboard
>arrow keys for dpad movement
>comfy, ergonomic
>fits neatly in your lap
>works out of the box in every game
>doesn't require steam to use but works equally well with steam
>as accurate as a steam controller or analog stick
>used by actual competitive gamers, not very well but used nonetheless
>costs less too

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>>166511216
>That's true of all input devices. More speed = less sensitivity. This is universally true.
Yes, but on an input device which has a ridiculous upper limit to movement speed (like a mouse or a touchpad) it's much less of an issue.
>The point is there's nothing impressive about steam controller and no proof anywhere because it's shitty controller. Quit dodging the point faggot.
Not an argument
>Key combinations remove the need for awkwardly placed paddles, dumpass.
No they don't, because on a typical PS/Xbox controller there's only 6 buttons that you can press while still having both thumbs on the sticks (and only 4 of those at the same time unless your controller lets you hit both triggers on one side at the same time).
>Steam controller is only officially supported by a small handful of games. xbox controller support is baked into windows you fucking moron.
You're still refusing to name an actual game on which the steam controller DOES NOT WORK. It has a built in input mapper and can emulate either a kbm or controller. Developers CAN include a default steam controller profile, or you can just find whatever the most popular public profile for that game is and use that.
>no you can't
Pic related
>they're all dogshit. I own a steam controller you retard. The thing is literally a piece of trash. Nobody uses one for anything but making one youtube video to shill it then never again.
Still not an argument

>>166511652
>works out of the box in every game
never tried to play Dark Souls 1 on PC?

Did they up the drop rate for exalted orbs? I'm on Breach and I got an exalted orb just now, but I also got one yesterday and the day before. A few times before that too. Am I just ridiculously lucky and about to get a mirror drop soon or did something happen?

>>166510897
it can be done using 3rd party tools

poe itself (the pc client) doesnt officially support it tho

>>166511895
no
gamblers fallacy

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>>166511795
>>166511216
>>166510969
>>166510345

>>166511636
Not much you can do if you have a quiver with no life and 2 rings with no life, that's just the restriction of your build although a little more life on tree wouldn't hurt, assuming your jewels aren't maxed out already

> Do I have to drop Heretic's
Blasphemy sounds out of place on a bow character since you ideally want to kill shit before it enters the small Blasphemy radius and bow users can curse from much farther

Interesting use of CoF/Rahkaldor, in most other builds I'd drop the chest for a Horror crafted/regular 100+ life tri res 6L but maybe the ignite duration and chance is too valuable here

wasted all my currency on fusings, still no 6L
now what

>>166511795
>Yes, but on an input device which has a ridiculous upper limit to movement speed (like a mouse or a touchpad) it's much less of an issue.
No, there's no issue here whatsoever other than you being a shit eating retard who likes to read things they post to themselves. There's no technical validity to anything you're posting in any way. You're fucking retarded. Nothing else.

>Not an argument
Yes it is, faggot. The fact that THERE'S LITERALLY NO PROOF ANYWHERE OF ANYONE USING IT IN ANYTHING BEYOND "LETS PLAY" VIDEOS IS PROOF. THE LACK OF EXISTENCE IS PROOF. THIS IS LOGIC 101 YOU MOUTH BREATHING RETARD.

>You're still refusing to name an actual game on which the steam controller DOES NOT WORK
None do except the small handful of steam controller supported games. Name a game, it doesn't work. Path of Exile? Doesn't work. You have to run steam.
>Pic related
Oh boy! Now I still have to run steam just to use my controller. Your only point is the biggest drawback as well, retard.
>Still not an argument
Still is and always will be, shit eater.

Things trash. They're for making yt shill videos and not actual video games. THIS >>166511652 LITERALLY SHITS ON STEAM CONTROLLER.

>>166512272
>Blasphemy sounds out of place on a bow character since you ideally want to kill shit before it enters the small Blasphemy radius and bow users can curse from much farther
Oh you're BV, never mind, I'm retarded, still don't see the point of Heretic's though

The term "Conversion" is too exclusive; I petition we should change all instances of the elemental conversion into "transelement", as it's more inclusive.

>>166511923
I see, well thank you.

>>166512403

gather currency. buy more fuses

alternatively, just buy a fucking skin with your desired colors

>>166512272
I'm using blasphemy because of BV, just using the bow+quiver for conversion and prolif, plus %phys added as fire is absurdly good on new BV. I'd be dying even more as it is without temp chains, and I need flammability to hit ignite cap, plus if I can ever corrupt into +1 curse rashkaldor's Heretics lets me fit in Elemental Weakness or Enfeeble.

will bleed double dipping get nerfed as well if poison double dipping gets nerfed?

>>166512549
3.0.0 will remove double dipping from the game.

>>166512549
Unlikely, bleeding doesn't stack, needs a moving target to deal actual damage and sources of high single phys hits are pretty limited in game

>>166512410
>There's no technical validity to anything you're posting in any way
I could say the same thing to you either. If I say "there's no hard upper limit to how fast you can aim with a mouse or touchpad because there isn't a hard max like on a thumbstick" the burden is on you to disprove it.
>THE LACK OF EXISTENCE IS PROOF
Lack of evidence proving god exists is proof god doesn't exist.
Lack of evidence proving god doesn't exist is proof god exists.
>Now I still have to run steam just to use my controller
Oh no you have to run the biggest game distribution platform that you probably had installed anyway. Besides, I'd rather be forced to run steam than Windows 10.
On top of that, to get the full potential out of the Xbox controller, you'd have to run a third party input mapper like the one you yourself existed. Either way, you have to run something third party.
> THIS >>166511652 LITERALLY SHITS ON STEAM CONTROLLER.
And a keyboard/mouse shits on any controller for FPS. What's your point? Why are you bringing irrelevant shit into the debate?

Anyone play grim downz?

playing a totemer shaman. is there a mythic relic im missing or something better than Squall?

>>166512718
how

>>166512831
>I could say the same thing to you either. If I say "there's no hard upper limit to how fast you can aim with a mouse or touchpad because there isn't a hard max like on a thumbstick" the burden is on you to disprove it.
There's no burden of proof on me shit eating retard. You made the claim about upper speed limits being problematic. PROVE IT. YOU CAN'T. NOW STFU IDIOT.

>Lack of evidence proving god exists is proof god doesn't exist.
Inferred evidence is evidence. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY ZERO INFERRED EVIDENCE OF STEAM CONTROLLER BEING ANYTHING BUT A STEAMING PILE OF SHIT ANYWHERE YOU SHIT EATING RETARD.

>Oh no you have to run the biggest game distribution platform that you probably had installed anyway.
Yes, installed, run no. Now kys retard.

>On top of that, to get the full potential out of the Xbox controller, you'd have to run a third party input mapper like the one you yourself existed
Not in a controller supported game, which is basically every single console port on PC.

>And a keyboard/mouse shits on any controller for FPS. What's your point? Why are you bringing irrelevant shit into the debate?
How can anyone be this dense and obtuse? You don't get to reason from steam controller is better than xbox controller to mouse is better than either. You have utterly failed to establish anything other than the verifiable fact that you're a fucking moron.

>>166512531
You're already using a secondary 4L BV setup for more ignites or something? sounds like you could easily fit a 3rd curse with CoH BV rather than jump through hoops to reserve another 35% mana but I can't be bothered to work out the pros and cons

requirements for posting in poeg: win a HC or race demi

>>166513264
It's the spicy triple BV secret the cabal let out of the bag last night. Stack really fast with a 4L BV-FC-Echo-Increased Duration then you just need 1 cast of each of two 5L BVs in the sme 6L and you get double the damage. It's a hilarious bug but I'm taking advantage of it while it lasts.

>>166510743
I will never not love you

>>166513437
I remember this being fixed in some recent patch or was it just my imagination

>>166513426
requirements: none because we're all anonymous and I don't give a flying fuck about your "*achievements*" in a videogame

>>166512718
t. someone completely unrelated to the development of poe

>>166512718

never in a million years will they remove double dipping

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>>166513536
post you're demi

here's one of mine

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OFFICIAL POEG LEAGUE RANKINGS (from most hardcore to most casual):

SSF TEMP HC
SSF HC
TEMP HC
PERM HC
SSF TEMP SC
SS SC
TEMP SC
PERM SC
XBOX ANYTHING

>>166513512
they fixed another 'bug' which was the massive double dipping because bv's 'more spell damage per blade' used to be 'more damage per blade'

>>166513694
I don't do events, I play the leagues then take a break

>>166513776
better get to winning a demi then

>>166513953
it doesnt interest me anon

>>166513130
>You made the claim about upper speed limits being problematic. PROVE IT.
I already made the argument that having a hard upper limit means you have to make a tradeoff between precision, speed, and not having too much accel, and that even though it is universal, something with no hard upper limit means you can use a much lower sensitivity for better precision while still having just as good if not better fast movement. Now, you can either:
1. Refute this argument by finding a flaw in it.
2. Accept the argument and its conclusion.
3. Defer the argument if you believe there might be evidence out there that exists but you do not have immediate access to or knowledge of.
This is arguing 101 here.

>Inferred evidence is evidence
You have to make an argument as to why your inference is correct. I could argue, for example, that due to the steam controller not being out as long, and not being included with every xbox/PS console, it simply isn't as popular. Or I could say that people don't feel the need to make e-peen videos over it.
Or you could just type "steam controller gameplay" into youtube.
Here's an overall positive one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-gSYD4aAwE
>You don't get to reason from steam controller is better than xbox controller to mouse is better than either
You're the one that brought kbm into the discussion, retard.

>>166514034
you literal sh*tbird

git gud or git out

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i play exclusively softcore and there is NOTHING you can do to stop me from posting

>>166514104
theres no git gud to something that doesnt interest me

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check out my sick demi guys

can i be part of this cool thread now

>>166514228
Yes, since it's a legit demi that's proof of your skill as a player, rather than a consolation rank #69 demi like catshitter's

>>166514351
>consolation rank #69 demi like catshitter's
bet you don't have a demi and you're just jealous

not top 5 demi = vaal it then vendor it for alchemy shards because that's all it's worth to me

if i have the warbands prophecy, can the warbands i kill drop magic items with the special mods on them or nah?

>>166514073
>I already made the argument that having a hard upper limit means you have to make a tradeoff between precision, speed, and not having too much accel, and that even though it is universal, something with no hard upper limit means you can use a much lower sensitivity for better precision while still having just as good if not better fast movement
No you're argument is that the steam controller's trackpad is better than an analog stick for these reasons, AN ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED ASSERTION. ERGO YOU GOT NOTHING. QUIT POSTING YOU FUCKING RETARD.

>You have to make an argument as to why your inference is correct
I already did. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO INFER ABOUT STEAM CONTROLLER. THE COMPLETE AND UTTER LACK OF EVIDENCE ON ANY LEVEL -- IS IN FACT EVIDENCE OF IT NOT BEING ANY GOOD.

>Here's an overall positive one
>Overshit

There's nothing impressive in that video. That's a game literally designed to be played on consoles. And, like all Steam Controller SHITHEAD SHILL VIDEOS, they keep saying positive things WHILE PLAYING LIKE ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT.

>You're the one that brought kbm into the discussion, retard.
No, I didn't. A mouse is a billion tiers above either one of these abominations. The steam controller isn't "the next best thing" by virtue of using a laptops UTTER SHIT trackpad. It's just as bad as an analog stick only WORSE IN EVERY WAY BECAUSE YOU'RE FORCED TO RUN STEAM AND USE THE HIDEOUSLY UNCOMFORTABLE AND POORLY SUPPORTED STEAM CONTROLLER.

Kys you shit eating retard.

>get race rewards
>have to create a character everytime, load up reward, then commit sudoku on the beach so I can transfer the item to sc

You CANNOT post in this thread if you haven't gotten 40 challenges this league. Chayula encounter will be the make-or-break determination on whether or not you'll be allowed to visit future threads.

>>166514635
Sorry but I'm not a NEET that can just run 10000 tiers of map because he doesn't have anything else to do

40 challenges is a joke if you buy boss kills or play softcore, good thing 2.6 will have SSF so the real test of endurance/skill (first to 100 SSFHC) will have clear winners

>not just buying the chayula stones
>or chauyla challegne completion
lol

>>166514563
>AN ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED
It's not unsupported, I'm giving an argument. Now the burden is on you to explain why the argument is wrong. Otherwise we have nothing to discuss if you aren't even going to follow basic debate procedure.
>WORSE IN EVERY WAY BECAUSE YOU'RE FORCED TO RUN STEAM
Oh fucking no you have to run steam.
Meanwhile the xbone controller requires you to run win10 to get everything out of it.

>2017
>not having Win10 yet
desu it came with my pc 2 years ago

*goes back to guzzling Microsoft and NSA cum*

like anyone important really gives a fuck whats on some neets pc

you Amerifat and your cyberfear of windows. woo evilll microsoft!

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>>166514807
there's only like two people in poeg that are better than me kek

>>166514824
>It's not unsupported, I'm giving an argument
No, you are not giving an argument you shit gobbling moron. You're making statements as facts and not backing them up with anything but instead, saying the exact same unsupported assertion again and again. In fact you're doing it again right now, claiming to have supported your argument while again neglecting the "supported" part where you point to making the same empty assertions as your argument.

>Now the burden is on you to explain why the argument is wrong. Otherwise we have nothing to discuss if you aren't even going to follow basic debate procedure.
I just did. You have no argument. You have the technical aptitude of a cotton mill worker.

>Oh fucking no you have to run steam.
Yes, that sucks ass.
>Meanwhile the xbone controller requires you to run win10 to get everything out of it.
I'd rather all my games just ran on any OS but it doesn't work that way. Everyone is playing games on Windows, especially steam users where 1% don't.

Steam controller is like taking two good ideas but instead of using the good idea, you take the worst possible idea instead and merge them. Accurate as a mouse and comfy as a pad? How about the least accurate device possible, a trackpad and the most uncomfortable, backward shaped, horrible button layout pad that requires an abomination of software to run? BRILLIANT!

There's literally no reason to run steam controller over the alternatives. All alternatives are at least as good + have at least one other pro that shits all over steam controller's mountain of cons.

and you quoted me, why?

just dropped a void battery AMA

did you pick it back up

uh when i say "dropped" i mean the item dropped for me

so did you?

yeah i picked it up

it's quite fascinating how intelligent people and complete retards cohabit in this thread

guys I'm playing D2 right now and... is there the equivalent of poe.trade ?

d2jsp

d2jsp

kys catshitter

>>166516160
it looks like complete ass.I'll give it a try I guess.

>zero trade offers for 2 hours just standing around/buying things/running a t16
>3 offers back to back near instantaneously a few seconds after opening shaper

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

why would you even need to trade anything if you can run shaper? I would lose all motivation to play. I'm at the guardians myself and its getting boring

nys catshitter

>>166515428
Let's walk through this one more time.
>1. By your own admission, it is universal across control schemes that turning up sensitivity reduces precision or necessitates some kind of accel.
>2. Mice and touchpads have no practical hard upper limitation in the hardware as to how fast you can move, whereas sticks have a limited range of motion. The only limitation is how fast you are physically capable of moving your hand/fingers/thumbs.
>3. From #1 and #2, it follows that on an input method with no hard limit for fast movement, faster movement can be achieved with much less sacrifice of precision.
#1 and #2 are assumptions. If you disagree with an assumption, state why.
#3 is my argument. If you believe there is a logical flaw in the argument, state why.
If you can't follow a reasonable debate format then I'm not going to bother.

>Yes, that sucks ass.
Support this with evidence
>I'd rather all my games just ran on any OS but it doesn't work that way. Everyone is playing games on Windows, especially steam users where 1% don't.
I specifically said "Windows 10" which is required for all features by Microsoft's own admission.
>Accurate as a mouse
Nobody said that, just that it is more accurate than a stick by virtue of having one of the major advantages of a mouse.
>that requires an abomination of software to run
And Windows 10 isn't an abomination?

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>tfw you find a way to triple dip

What would triple dipping even be? There's no way to deal damage based on damage dealt based on damage dealt.

no you didnt catshitter
you werent the first to think of BV+poison

>>166516324
>want to start new character
>need to sell shit to make room + get some funds to buy stuff for him later on
>slash prices on everything, cheapest available on most, well rolled ES gear dirt cheap
>literally ZERO whispers in 5 hours

what the fuck is this shit

am I RNG seeded to not receive trade offers

What sort of activities would Kira enjoy on a date?

>idiots dont understand what double dipping is and think they've found triple dipping

>>166516625
>#3 is my argument. If you believe there is a logical flaw in the argument, state why.
BECAUSE YOU MADE THE GLARINGLY OBVIOUS MIND JARRINGLY BONE HEADED ONLY A STUPID FUCKING RETARD COULD POSSIBLY MAKE MISTAKE OF EQUATING TRACKPAD=MOUSE OR PERHAPS YOU INTENTIONALLY SAID TOUCHPAD INSTEAD OF TRACKPAD SO YOU CAN CONTINUE THIS RETARD TIER "DISCUSSION" OUT FOR ANOTHER 200 REPLIES WHERE YOU KEEP FAILING TO COMPREHEND THAT TRACKPAD =/= MOUSE THEREFOR YOUR LOGIC IS RETARDED.

IF YOU WISH TO LUMP MOUSE AND TRACKPAD TOGETHER THEN YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY LITERALLY NOBODY IS EVEN ANYWHERE CLOSE TO COMPETITIVE WITH A MOUSE IN GAMING.

>Support this with evidence
The evidence that I don't want to run steam but have to just to use my controller? Are you literally the most retarded human being on planet earth or just trying your hardest to be?

>I specifically said "Windows 10" which is required for all features by Microsoft's own admission.
use x360 controller instead of xbone, it's cheaper and then your dumb argument dies. You'd also have to point to whatever you're talking about. Almost any console port will work perfectly with any xbox controller from win xp -> win 10

>Nobody said that, just that it is more accurate than a stick by virtue of having one of the major advantages of a mouse.
This is called an assertion. You have to back this up. You can't and never will because it's flat out wrong.

>And Windows 10 isn't an abomination?
Fuck are you going on about windows 10 for? It's not required for anything hardly. I can run most windows games on windows 95 still you butthurt autist. Quit trying to shift goalposts.

kys catshitter

nys catshitter

>>166515560
enjoy your one ex

Any of you play path of diablo or median XL?
Not sure which one to play. Gonna play hc with friends

>>166516795
Consider the case of skill duration for Wither CwC Firestorm, skill duration:

1. increases the duration of Wither, allowing for a higher stack of chaos damage taken debuffs
2. increases the duration of Firestorm, allowing for a higher ceiling of fire damage over time thus higher resulting ceiling of poison over time
3. increases the duration of poison thus its damage potential again

Boom, a single modifer increasing your damage at 3 different stages aka triple dipping

Pictured above: a retard who doesn't know what double dipping actually is

hys catshitter

so basalt + 4 end charges + outmatch and outlast + fort is ~60% phys damage reduction that does get crushed like armor and doesn't get halved by acrobatics

is my math right?

sys catshitter

>>166518108
wrong, flat pdr like basalt or end charges are not additive with reduced/increased physical damage taken, you're forgetting the existence of similar modifiers like abyssus or shock

>>166517705
play eastern sun

also median XL is NOT made with HC in mind. for example, there is a rare Reaper mob that will 1 shot your char no matter what (they have a sound cue at least, but still if you lower your guard and are unlucky you can die just like that. its not even a slow attack, once you are close enough (think once u can see it onscreen) it flickers to you and you DEAD NIGGA. YOU DEAD

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1824790
very interesting must read

>>166518448
What makes eastern sun fun? Convince me and I'll play it

I'm playing minesweeper

is there a poe.trade equivalent?

>>166518524
LOL I love how they implicitly shit on casuals dying in lab by saying the playtest characters are able to complete the gauntlets with no particular gear or any movement skill

>>166517098
>EQUATING TRACKPAD=MOUSE
But I'm not equating trackpads and mice.
However, they do share one advantage, which is that the hardware itself has no upper limit to speed of motion.
>Equating touchpad and trackpad
Touchpad and trackpad are interchangeable terms.
>The evidence that I don't want to run steam
That is a preference, just like "the controller is uncomfortable for me". You can use that to say why *you* don't like it, but you can't turn that into a universal truth.
>This is called an assertion. You have to back this up.
That's exactly the argument I've been making. You're the one that seems to be unable to refute it.
I provided two assumptions and a conclusion. The burden is on you to either take issue with an assumption or take issue with the logic used to turn the assumptions into a conclusion.

>>166518950
why are kids so bad at games these days

even tetris is harder than poe

>>166517889
not triple dipping
simply an efficient stat

a triple dip would be a stat that scales an ignite that gets triggered by an ignite that gets triggered by a primary effect

say fire damage

the damage would scale the initial hit
then the first ignite twice since its based off the first hit which is scaled by fire damage
then it gets scaled again by fire damage by itself

then triple dip would be scaled off the double dipped first ignite and scaled again by the fire damage

but no skill like this exists

try playing tetris with 250ms latency

>>166518712
desu I dont know that much. its closer to median XL than vanilla, but Id say it goes less full retard on the deviation in the design (normal to see median XL endgame chars aoe spamming whole screen)

Probably helped that I felt less overwhelmed with new shit (but it does have a lot, just not as much as median) and the wiki and crafting pages helped me (though you'll need to check the page in waybackmachine for the latter).

Either way, get Diablo 2 SE modmanager. it eases mod install a lot and comes with image glide+Plugy+Support for old patches and modwise: Eastern Sun, Median XL Ultimative XV and Snej and has support for far more mods

>>166519120
>But I'm not equating trackpads and mice.
But you are, your entire point is to equate some "advantage" they share and then go on to say if they both have this advantage they're automatically both better than stick. They're not because it's not an advantage and it's untrue and wrong.
>However, they do share one advantage, which is that the hardware itself has no upper limit to speed of motion.
This is absolutely false. They have a speed at which they'll malfunction for starters, where they'll no longer perfectly control and it varies heavily from mouse to mouse and I have no idea on trackpad, it's probably incredibly low, lower than a stick and awful nor would anyone care because trackpads are dogshit for gaming.
>That is a preference, just like "the controller is uncomfortable for me"
No, it's not a preference you shit eating mongoloid because you can't choose to not run it unless you you know, don't mind being incapable of configuring the overwhelming vast majority of your windows games.
>I provided two assumptions and a conclusion
No, you provided one retarded assertion that of which has no factual basis whatsoever. You have zero technical knowledge and I have no idea where you're even getting this drivel from.

has anyone ever done a iron will build? I was thinking about trying a scorching ray chieftain, anyone whos done it that can tell me if its retarded or not?

>In my opinion, Blizzard has always believed that if you do right by your players and your game, the money follows. That formula has proven right for them for twenty-five years. Why change it?
-Jay Wilson

>tfw jay wilson is the smart one now

>>166519887
>has anyone ever done a iron will build?
no, you're the first person in the history of poeg to have though about doing that
>I was thinking about trying a scorching ray chieftain, anyone whos done it that can tell me if its retarded or not?
does it make sense to go life instead of ES?
is IW a sensible support considering all the other supports you could choose from?

do some thinking of your own, and don't trust people who spoonfeed you a "yes" or "no"

>>166519679
>But you are, your entire point is to equate some "advantage" they share and then go on to say if they both have this advantage they're automatically both better than stick
No, that's one small part of my argument.
I am saying that they both HAVE a particular property, and that having that property allows an input method to get a higher relative amount of precision and speed.
>They have a speed at which they'll malfunction for starters
Which is why I specifically at one point said "practical limit". I checked my mouse and the specs say 5.45m/s as the max tracking speed. This is much faster than you'd be able to physically move it.
>it's probably incredibly low
And I'm sure you have something to back this up with, right?
>No, it's not a preference
It is your preference that you dislike steam. Most people don't sperg out over having to run Steam since Microsoft has already fisted them in the ass with no lube.

>>166520306
>I am saying that they both HAVE a particular property, and that having that property allows an input method to get a higher relative amount of precision and speed.
No, they don't both have this property because they don't compare as now you're going to have to start getting into tracking characteristics where trackpad suddenly becomes worse than you could possibly imagine..

>Which is why I specifically at one point said "practical limit". I checked my mouse and the specs say 5.45m/s as the max tracking speed. This is much faster than you'd be able to physically move it.
No, it isn't. I can easily move my mouse that fast. You can test with enotus mouse test. Quit posting retard.

>And I'm sure you have something to back this up with, right?
No because I'm not the one making such a retarded false equivocation to begin with. You claim both trackpad and mouse are faster yet you matter of factually don't have the data to back that up and even if you did, it still proves nothing as the tracking characteristics of the trackpad render this value as an advantage only on paper, not in game.

>It is your preference that you dislike steam. Most people don't sperg out over having to run Steam since Microsoft has already fisted them in the ass with no lube.
Not it's not my preference that I dislike steam. This is called shifting goalposts. I said having to run steam is a disadvantage because I don't have to run steam on any of the other controllers, particularly the xbox controllers where the overwhelming vast majority of games are supported OOTB. The ones that aren't I'd much rather use a proper tool to configure it like antimicro which uses no resources and not forced to load an entire library for games like steam.

90% sure this is just a schizo arguing with himself

I'd rather have a full blown argument with myself than a steam controller shill

It's funny to see the playerbase being so brainwashed by the life vs ES balance argument that they'd reject a 10k life build but will happily embrace a 8k ES build

>go to eat
>take a shower
>cuddle with pets
>come back to poeg after 4 hours and these autists are still at it

how do these people even live like this?

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>life build has to choose between regen and VP
>ES doesn't
Life's advantage is secondary layers of reduction, if it were just a pure 10k life vs pure 8k ES I'd still take the ES.

I wouldn't change a single thing about poeg
except catshitter who needs to khs

keep catshitter
he's someone to look down on

>>166521421

>es doesnt

you do. you just happen to have "recharge" as well

life has flasks (which become increasingly inefficient as your health pool grows)

>>166521813
>you do. you just happen to have "recharge" as well
I was referring to recharge. But actual ES regen that isn't converted from health (like shav's ring) still works through VP.

>never heard of antimicro
>try it out on my $5 chink ps3 controller knockoff
>set right stick on spring mode
>skills on dpad
>potions on macro triggers

not bad. ty gamepad autists

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how can i find a level 7 haku to craft flat on this?

breach scrubcore btw

>>166521274

life vs es is just a reddit ruse to distract you from the real battle, which is vaal pact vs everything fuckin else

if vp was restricted to life only nobody would give a shit about es balance

>>166522186
>He doesn't have a lvl 7 haku

>>166522313
If VP were life only then tons of ES builds would become plain shit.
The real issue is that PoE has a retarded leech over time system.

>>166522186
There's trade channels for master sharing, just google it

redpill me on HC poeg

>>166522586
unlimited leech is the reason builds so ridiculously aoe clear speed focused

as long as your hp is just barely large enough and you aren't literally one shotting yourself on reflect your damage becomes your defense

it's a big part of the reason oneshots are the only rips really

vaal pact removes life regen, a stat almost no one makes big use of anyway because of pots, and instead makes leech this insanely efficient stat

>>166522186
mastercraft flat is garbage. you won't break 350 with it.

>>166522926
>the reason builds so ridiculously aoe clear speed focused
No, I think the reason everyone focuses on farm speed is because PoE is a game where farm speed is important.
That's like asking "why is everyone using guns in an FPS" or "why is everyone driving fast in a racing game".
There are certainly builds you can do that do not involve any leech at all that still have good clear speed. The issue is that non-VP leech is so garbage.

>>166522586

thats my point

leech is badly designed because of how easy it is to hit leech cap

every other stat either gets MORE beneficial as you acquire more (mana regen) or hits diminishing returns (increased damage, life), or stays the same (flat damage, fuck off howaa)

leech just stops working, points you spend on it do nothing after a threshold

VP fixes that but VP has limited build access due to shitty positioning, especially the builds that NEED leech (melee)

lets look at the keystones:

MI : near minion nodes
PB : near bow nodes
RT : near pure str low accuracy shit
CI : near int and es
etc
VP : right between bows and castershit, NOWHERE near leech nodes like EVERY other keystone. they even moved mom from the autistic spot near the duelist it used to occupy but then fucked up VP around the same time

>>166517659
thanks i will

>>166522870
the only acceptable way to play an arpg if you're not a casual

>>166523134
whatever it will work for now, im not trying to get mirror tier, but i think its def worth an exalt once i can afford it

this dude offered to craft for me from global 820 but how do i know HE WONT SCAM ME?????????

>>166522870
Something players do because they hate themselves or they want to compensate for a lack of skill. Catshitter is your average HC player and he buys a bunch of challenges. Way more fun to just do SC and never have to puss out of content because you risk ripping. Case in point: post about HoGM and watch hardcucks get triggered because they would never dare do GM on HC.

a lot of people do hall of the grandmasters in HC...

>>166523380
Even if you hit max roll it will only be 354 ES. There's a nearly identical one for sale for 40c and a way better one for 50c.

>Catshitter is your average HC player
This statement doesn't seem to be founded on any kind of logical basis

>>166523527
>Way more fun to just do SC and never have to puss out of content because you risk ripping

this shows you dont actually play endgame SC either

at high levels, its much better to reroll very dangerous shit than to waste 10 maps worth of xp on a stupid death

>>166523807
>at high levels, its much better to reroll very dangerous shit than to waste 10 maps worth of xp on a stupid death
Not when I'm more or less done leveling a character.
No reason to level past 92 or 93 when the build can already do shaper.

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>>>>>>>>>>a lot of people do hall of the grandmasters in HC...

>>166520294
well I meant a iron will SR build

Ive been tinkering with the build planner and am obviously gonna do some research but I'm still fairly new to the game was basically asking if it was even viable in the first place before I put in this time and effort

I dont know items well enough to know if you can stack enough strength to be at least competitive with CI options, a lot of people here have been around for years and know these things so thats what I wondered

> a lot of people do hall of the grandmasters in HC...
This is your brain on catshittery

>>166523910

>perma-empty-xp-bar-at-92-literal-shitter trying to give advice and sharing """"opinions""""""

>>166524162
Okay then, why would you level if your build can already do all content and you're not going to be on the ladder anyway?

nobody cares what you can do on your hero editor character

>>166524134
>>166524005
it's funny how you call me shit when you're a lot worse than i am

hey catshitter
how many challenges did you buy this league

literally can't even follow a chain of logic lmfao
catposter is RETARDED

>>166524098
yes, IW is a very viable support for SR especially considering the skill itself has innate coverage you don't need to expand through supports such as pierce/gmp for projectiles or aoe for aoe spells and is damage over time channeling so you can't use spell echo and faster casting is arguably not needed, i.e. the opportunity cost is lower

a pure self-cast SR build would be linked to
Controlled Destruction
Elemental Focus
Rapid Decay

at the very least imo
this leaves you with two sockets to customize your build, IW can be one of them

>>166524098
IR kinda sucks but it will be able to get you into yellow tier maps maybe. On paper its much harder to scale strength and have respectable spell damage because there's nothing worth getting for spells on the strength side of the tree.

It used to work when RF was better for selfcast spells, and when block was easier to get, but both of those things have been neutered into the ground

>>166524162
bullshit, you're much more free to do any content, and when you happen to gain half a level, you can just farm easy t15 maps a few times to fill it. It's just slower.

>>166523724
ok? i made this one myself and if i spend 2c for enchant i can sell it for profit? i dont understand what you are trying to dissuade me from doing

>>166524871
what is the freedom in "doing" content you didn't earn the progress to? what you call freedom I call self-lobotomization

what's so great about doing all the content when you only can because it's easier

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What?
Why?

What the fuck was that?

Why did only one of them drop Shaped?
Why not all of them?
What the fuck, GGG?
They're literally only supposed to drop Shaped once I shape them, right?

>>166524706

iw is fine, i have no problem at reds (sucks vs guardians but i'm nowhere near optimized yet)

key is to go cwc so you dont have to squeeze cast speed in when its really hard to pick up with typical IW pathing

you need good jewels though

>>166523527
this is correct

>softcore
>laid back chill players who define the meta, constantly come up with new/unique builds, do all the game has to offer

>hardcore
>generally ugly and beta, nothing to do with their lives so they spend 14+ hours a day playing or talking about PoE, meta slaves that only run broken builds, never take risk, dried lake warriors, miss out of 99% of endgame, run nothing but shaped strand over and over and over. completely and utterly fail at basic mechanics of endgame fights when they actually do try them and get destroyed (see - guy who was first to HC 100 SSF dying to a literal basic Hydra attack that even first time softcore players are able to dodge)

the face of softcore is a good-looking well adjusted guy like Mathil while the face of hardcore is a sperg like Zizaran. That should tell you enough

will console diablo 3 seasons be the paragon of competitive cheat free game design

>>166525212
what do you mean by IW is fine? How long does it take you to clear a T15?

you're scorching ray or something else? I honestly cant see it working that well given other options that exist

>>166525285
and yet, no one cares about the "first to" achievements on shitcore, can you name the first standardbabb who killed shaper or the first player who killed atziri in softcore? I can't

1326 lvl cap league when?

>>166525518
Maybe SC players don't care about ego circlejerks.

why doesn't someone just make a pc like console that is cheat proof like console for competitive gaming but not slow like a console and support for different controllers?

gaming is too much money to still have all this autism surrounding it

ggg should make their own console imho

>>166525480

sr cwc firestorm, sr deletes most packs in 1-2 passes and buffs up the firestorm single target greatly

its obviously worse than the poison cwc variants but its functional

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I can't wait to play PoE in VR™ on my Microsoft Xbox Scorpio™ and headset

>>166526024
so wait, your doing sr cwc firestrom and using iron will? the fuck? Why would you waste a gem slot on IR when you are already starved for gem slots?

Don't tell me youre using the gloves?

>>166525057
>you didn't earn the progress to?
What do you even mean by that? You still get a limited number of tries per map, it's not like you can just drown a boss in your corpses.

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>>166525727
You brought up baits, cliches and subjective opinions about what is worth "doing" or how the game should be played, I bring a fact, which is that the perception of the playerbase of achievements in hardcore is understandably more positive overall since them being deathless gives them a legitimate status, any attempts of downplaying them ("hardcore players run easy content, play easy builds, never deviate from the meta, etc.") is just denial of that simple fact.

And if we're going to play the real life card, it's pretty laughable you think softcore isn't populated with pathetic no-lifers or shaped Strands autists as well, very much like hardcore. Question: if you're going to be the kind of egotic person who feels good about amassing wealth and flipping the market, being part of the 1%, do you play softcore or hardcore? Answer: softcore, because that's where the bulk of the playerbase is, that's where you can feel good about scamming noobs, making retardedly expensive builds to showcase your gear on reddit, etc.

In the end the only difference between sc or hc is your approach to the game, there are hardcore players with a family, a full-time job and responsibilities who play hc because that's their preferred way of playing the game, which shall I remind you, is how the game was initially advertised as, a HARDCORE niche arpg where death is punished by more than a slap on your xp bar.

>>166526548
You can die 6 times every map you run and all you lose is one fucking map and 30% exp. You die in HC once you lose everything. Are you pretending to be retarded or am I missing something here

>>166526819
Don't try and rationalize the mental gymnastics of the shitcrow.

because its stupid you fucking retard

I want them release a separate game that's only hc ssf. I don't wish to be slowly forced to be associated with these xbox casuals anymore. A league isn't enough, they can still pretend to be like us.

>>166526819
Well, since you didn't earn any of your progress either, because you're not playing SSF, your argument is basically invalid.

I like the autism guys keep it up

im going to kill you

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>>166525727
even tards are competitive

that's why they have the special olympics

>>166526548
EVERYTHING you do in softcore unless you're a SSF autist who has never died (in which case you're the exception to the rule and the mode you play in is irrelevant) is tainted by the fact that you participate in an economy with items that were for the vast majority not materialized by characters who were deathless or lost everything on their character upon death.

The bar is lowered. It's not about your limited attempt of portals per map, even though there are certainly softcore builds that would be fine with going class cannon and losing a portal or two for bosses. Even the lab is different in softcore than in hardcore despite them sharing the same single-attempt rule only, in softcore you'd be more inclined to go for max key runs while in hardcore you have to actually pause to give though to whether you want to try a 15-charge triple-essence Izaro because the consequence is not 5 minutes of your time lost, but all your gear and potentially 50+ hours.

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Is there facebook connect for this forum or can i log with my instagram account?

New player here, want to get to know the community before we begin playing this shieeet in a couple months when it releases on XB1 but every message is by "Anonymous" lol

>>166527591
>in a couple months when it releases on XB1
It releases in early July

>>166526281

yeah

not using rapid decay since its ass with firestorm and you have zero dex in that build and you don't need to scale SR THAT much, its basically free fpen for your firestorm on st

and there's nothing wrong with the gloves

>>166525518
all you've done is highlight another major problem with hardcore. first is always hit by a RMTer being fed by his guild

and literally NO ONE cares about it at all once someone hits 100. HC leagues last less than a week, and new ones don't come for 6 months

talk about total cucks

>>166519431
Thanks for the info. I'll get the modmanager then. I just hope the droprates aren't shit because we are basically playing ssf as party on hc. Friends want to stick to median xl because it will be easier for their tard brains to get and we will see how it goes and try out some other stuff later.
I suggested hc poe multiple times but it's always no dude I wanna play d2!!

>not dying is somehow a skill when half of deaths occur to GGG's shit servers or client crashes
lol

>>166527863
I'm not saying hardcore is without faults, just that there is more legitimacy or at least benefit of the doubt being given to hardcore player accomplishing anything rather than the exact same being done by a softcore player, this is not really up for debate and not a matter of which mode is worth playing more than the other.

There are autists, no-lifers, cheaters, bad players, casuals on both modes, so the only difference is again, in the approach of the game, if you're fine with being a casual and having a positive number of deaths, play sc, if not play hc. If you don't care about how others perceive you or your own perception of yourself, why are you being defensive of your league choice?

>>166528191

this is more or less of a meme

if you have shit internet or just bad latency to poe gateways, you should not be playing hc. or at all

and non-steam client is fairly stable. turn off dx11 more for even more stability (at some performance cost)

there will be still some deaths to technical shit but 90% of them will be to your own stupidity or oneshots

>>166528191
Not the point. There is this one mode where death is permanent and gear loss is permanent. If you want to compare yourself to others or to yourself, naturally you will want to play in that mode regardless of how bullshit or out of your control balance or performance may be.

>>166528462
fuck off
I've had times where the SERVER started lagspiking. My FPS was fine, my connection was fine, yet the ping graph was all over the place.

>>166528532
HC players can compare themselves to other HC players.
SC players can compare themselves to other SC players.
Neither is an unfair comparison. I don't see the issue here.

>>166528601
>I've had times where the SERVER started lagspiking.

i never said this wouldnt happen ever

but its ridiculous and naive to believe that is a factor that will make you die all the time

i play hc exclusively and i can only think of a single death recently (this league) that was caused due to factors completely outside my control, and it was a crash during a breach in the first day of the league

>>166528601
>SC players can compare themselves to other SC players.
Sure, only with a lowered bar of comparison, that's the entire point.

>>166528462
I bet all those Singapore players are to blame for having their undersea cable cut, and dying because of it, huh?

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gonna start making a list now
post gamertags for xbone guild

>>166526737
i like you

>>166529017

i think that if shitty gateway uplink can be isolated to a single 3rd world country, the problem isnt the gateway itself

>>166525727
stupidest thing i read all day and i teach high school english in america

>tfw you've been using geoffris baptism for 30 levels and you switch to marohi

http://www.strawpoll.me/12191944

>making strawpolls about yourself
dumb attention whore

>>166528191

Bullshit. I have 3rd world Australian internet and not one of my deaths has been due to lag, not since lockstep was implemented.
My deaths are from horseshit, over-tuned ele damage.

New player here, I'm at the end of Act 2 on Merciless, playing a necromancer.

I have two questions:
Which two curses should I be applying for my minions? Right now it's Enfeeble and Vulnerability, but I'm wondering if swapping one out for Poacher's Mark or Temporal Chains might be better.
Is it viable to play a necromancer in endgame without spectres? I don't really like dealing with them.

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>playing diablo 2 for more than 8 years
>always having fun and coming back for more
>poe comes out, flawed but a pretty fucking great game
>still play diablo 2, mods and shit
>the more expansions and leagues makes poe more and more fun for me
>tired of this league, come back to good old lord of destruction
>sudden urge to open strongboxes have and beyond monsters
>sudden urge to have poe uniques in diablo
>itemization just feel so limited all of the sudden
>holy shit, the game is finally getting old

anyone having this feel?

if it were 2008 right now i'd not play 2017 poe over diablo 2

so how exactly does "% chance to status ailment" work

if I'm using a skill that can't ignite by itself (say scorching ray), but then have that from items/skill tree, can the damage from the skill then cause that? or is it only on attacks

>>166529548
Why didn't you use Hrimnor's Dirge?

>>166530769
Enfeeble/Temp Chains, nothing else is really useful for a summoner, Poacher's Mark is... random? why would you even mention that

>Is it viable to play a necromancer in endgame without spectres? I don't really like dealing with them.
You want damage dealers, zombies can't be scaled for end game AoE clear, they're more meat shields than anything, so your options are

SRS
Spectres
Animate Weapon
Flame golems but you're probably too poor for that

>>166531336
>so how exactly does "% chance to status ailment" work
% chance rolled per hit, SR never hits thus can never proc any on-hit effects

Anyone played/still plays RO pre-Renewal?

Any decent servers still around?

>>166531364
This is my first character of the league and I didn't have shit

can i have a glass of water

>>166533132
*ziiiip*

okay here you go sir that will be 5 c plus tip

what if poe on xbone is better than on pc

>>166533242
What if the universe actually exists in a false vacuum and it all collapses tomorrow, causing the entirety of mankind to die?

what if xbone poe is more popular than on pc

what if im your dad

what if PoE keeps getting better year after year and catshitter never recovers from the anal devastation of being proven wrong again and again

what if xbone poe is rmt paradise

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i've never been proven false i didnt speak any equations fuck off shitcrow

imagine poe with no bots so it's only players controlling the flow of rmt currency

humans are robots too, just made out of proteins instead of metal alloys

humans can certainly function as bots but less efficient, more expensive, prone to screwing off instead of slaving for my gold

>haven't played in a couple of days
>pop a chayula breach
>empty as usual
>except chayula actually shows up
>lolwut
>first time getting more than 3 splinters from this stupid breach

Should I play less then?

"Chayula" sounds like a tranny name

a puerto-rican tranny with an afro

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>>166532221
>>166534301
>>166530790

kill thyself

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>>166535353
what do i win

So I ran uderground sea and bazaar because I was excited to do some t11s but now those are all I'm getting from t10s
Did I fuck up

>>166535930
buy at least $35 worth of mtx or tabs to "reset" your map rng seed

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this was all from before i returned to BSC
so anything below 60 ilevel is vendor trash right?

It's all vendor trash period

would ED do decent damage in a CwC setup with minimal chaos dmg nodes but lots of inc damage over time?

>>166536361
that prismatic is worth at least 2 ex

>prismatic rings
>worth anything

>>166536662
youd be better off self casting

you are wasting too much damage by puting it on a wcw

>level 45
>finished everything in cruel already

Where do I go to level? too high for normal lake, too low for cruel lake, everything else seems slow as all fuck.

Go to Merciless you fucking retard
Or a level 45 area

Im just gonna grind maps until 50 or so.

>>166536780
yeah I figured as much

honestly I just want to find a good cwc pair with SR that isn't boring old firestorm

Great game shit general, if we want to possibly help this game strive we need to work together and be nicer to one another. Maybe we can learn from reddit :)

gb2 reddit

RETARD

What build would simulate the feeling of putting a knife blade vertically in your mouth, biting it and slowly pulling it out?

>thinking about a possible new character
>spend the next 2 hours redecorating the hideout while thinking
0 progress but at least it looks nice. But now I need to do more Catarina's missions

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>guy buys a 150c skin of the loyal from me
>messages me 5 minutes later asking if I'll buy it back since it's "not an ugprade"
What's the correct reaction here? my social anxiety kicked in so I didn't answer anything and ignored him

>>166540430
'no sorry'
theres literally NOTHING he can do

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>>166540430
tell him to pay you extra to take it back

>>166537221
A good setup can be RF and CwC Flame Surge. Obviously you take inquisitor or chieftain to sustain the RF, but it's a pretty comfy build.

Need your advice guys. Currently CI, using a decent 5L. Thinking about acquiring a Shav and going LL but a 6L is too expansive, so I wonder if its worth it to get a 5L just for LL.... then I'll still need to make it a 6L eventually.

>>166540430
you HAVE to take it back

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Sup dudes is pic related a good XP/hr for my level or just average?

>>166540918
It's just okay

>>166540918
pretty garbage if you're under 200 mil desu

>>166540430
"no lmao" is the correct response

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Also my play time and age
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It's an abstract kind of autism.

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>It's an abstract kind of autism.
Nothing abstract about this fucking retard

>giving out so many (You)s for free
do you want to crash the market you idiots

>>166541575
don't ever talk to me and my son again

>>166541704
>hurrr i still play the no reply meme

Fuck off retard.

It's nice
I got 14 (You)votes out of those 2 posts

thanks for the (You), sucker

>>166518448

Fukken aye. I don't know why everyone sucks Medians dick when Eastern Sun is so fucking great.

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really bad

I was getting this at 86

>>166542427
If you're getting more than 1 million exp per hour at that level, you're already better than the rest of this general.

what build

>>166542576
Reply to me like a competent human being and I'll tell you what build.

>>166542692
Fine here's your (You)

build

now

>>166542692
>>166542726
>>166542427
>I replied properly
>He still didn't post the build
I've been scammed of my (You)s
When is this garbage trade system getting fixed?

>>166543370
>properly

You said "fine" like you're being forced to do it, you're not getting shit from me with that attitude.

Well maybe I don't need (You)r shitty build anyway

how many (You)s can i buy an auracuck for?

I could run a shitty auracuck for 20 (You)s

>>166541259
none of it matters if we dont know what level you are

for everyones sake, it would be better if you guys finally learned to play the game instead of shitposting like dumb headless chickens all the time

How much armor do you have to stack in order for it to be worth a shit

don't stack armour

How long until next league? I'm 29/36 and burnt out. Need a break

>>166536662
ED/Contagion/Blight CWC is effective against pretty much everything in the game. A little bit slower than a 500 ex Vall Spark build, but it's solid and safe as hell.

tfw 2nd dying sun in row from shaper
not bad

post your hc ssf builds

I know solo self found is coming but should i wait for that or can i play now without needing to trade/group with anyone?

no one forces you to trade or party lmao

you can play now but its a dead league, not so fun when nobody is playing

well, unless youre an autist that doesnt like to chat

>last reply 1 hour ago

Really

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are they doing a demi race before the new challenge league?

what the FUCK is going on with poelab? Had to figure shit out myself today

Newish player playing a melee CI build. I never really worried about money or upgrading my gear since I was clearing so fast and didnt have any issues with dying at all outside of a few random things, but I sorta hit a wall at the endgame and it was clear on my failed shaper attempt I needed a 6 link and more ES. I kinda wanna "finish" the character properly with killing Shaper and Uber Atziri before I start my next but uh, what the fuck do I even do to make money? Up until now I've just leveled and progressed and any money made was off random drops. Progression is done since I've already done all guardians and I don't care about leveling anymore since it's just autism grindy at this point, so I'm free to specifically try to make money now but I'm sorta at a loss to how to go about that.

high tier maps don't seem profitable at all, sometimes I would get lucky and get a couple high map drops but a lot of the time I'd just get absolutely nothing even always going for good rolls. guardians dont seem good either, frags sell for way lower than the maps themselves

I've heard uber lab is good but honestly I hate lab and running it 100+ times hoping for a decent meta enchant over and over sounds mind numbingly boring

do I really just do mid tier maps and hope for lucky drops like I was essentially already doing while leveling? are there no better ways?

>>166553620
>Newish player
>killing shaper
what. you should focus on understanding things properly first. killing shaper is optional

>>166553768
What is wrong with killing shaper? I don't know shit and already killed it a few times

>>166553825
I guess you're good then. I don't know any rl friend who even killed the guardians, and since I missed the Atlas release I haven't myself either.

Online it might seem like the majority does it but its far from that, most dont even get to T11+ maps. If you<re new and there already you're pretty alright anon.

>>166527780
> sr cwc firestorm, conc, elemental focus, controlled destruction
>lets take one of those more multipliers out in favor of IW which gives MAYBE 80% INCREASED

uhhhhhh, poetards?

>>166540719
>cwc great for slowly cast spells
>Lets use the spell with the fastest base cast time!

this fucking stupid shit again?

>>166553916
Shaper is not hard at all if you play the right build you can literally just facetank everything and hold rightclick and he dies in a few seconds before you even have to do any mechanics

>>166555208
yes but a new player should go right away for the coockiecutter build X found on a forum/guide
I mean, the fun is to make your build...

>I mean, the fun is to make your build...
Maybe if you don't visit here and get called a shitter every second

>>166555647
shouldn't*, my bad

>>166556082
I'm talking about new players anon. Getting in the game by copying the "best meta build" atm is not the way to go.

>Getting in the game by copying the "best meta build" atm is not the way to go.
Says you

>>166556297
forgot that I'm surrounded by millennials who need instant gratification and dont want to figure anything out by themselves.

>>166556082
shitter

Ur right. It's better for a new player to make their own shitty build and struggle until they finally quit instead of actually doing content and learning and eventually making their own build

>>166556137
>Getting in the game by copying the "best meta build" atm is not the way to go.
That's the way the game is meant to be played, the best meta builds with no weaknesses is what the content is balanced around. Playing anything less than the most broken, cheapest geared shit is just gimping yourself by a massive degree.

>>166556553
>to make their own shitty build and struggle until they finally quit
you're confirming what I'm saying about your generation

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>>166513694
okay.

I get that you're a neet with no other hobbies so you can devote your life to making your shitty poe builds. Other people have lives though

>>166556685
>gimping yourself by a massive degree
are we in competition or something?
A new player should first and foremost focus on exploration and learning the game. He doesn't need to do ALL the content available in the first league he plays.

>shitter trying to make excuses for himself

>>166556762
you got this backwards

>>166556859
I'm talking about the new player experience, not us

>Be new player
>Try making build or coming here for help
>get called a shitter and bullied endlessly
real nice group of guys you got here :)

>>166556816
>are we in competition or something?
You still have to be able to compete with the enemies in in pve, forget other players.

What's the point of playing if you make a bad character that can't experience the actually interesting parts of the game?
What's the point of "exploring" when the acts are just a shitty extended tutorial? The plot is just a bunch of random bullshit about bogans fighting romans, the pope snorting magic crystals and going crazy, ancient civilizations memeing themselves to death and some vague excuse for fighting every namedrop character from the "lore" happening in act 4.

>>166556816
Maybe if it were a single player game, but it isn't. kys

>>166557327
>What's the point of "exploring" when the acts are just a shitty extended tutorial?
You realize that most players spend the majority of their time doing acts and only a minority ever get to yellow maps, right?

Once again I'm not talking about us here. (Even if I do love to make alt and prefer doing the acts to endless mapping)

>>166557397
PoE is pretty much single player + trade

>>166557574
It's not though. You can't play offline by yourself endlessly mapping, gathering items, making new characters, modding etc.
Why limit yourself in a limited league by making your own shitty build when you can look at hundreds of viable ones and do one that looks fun

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>>166556728
nice one

we're truly part of the elite

>>166557693
>Implying your #23 touches my #2
Fuck off, peasant.

>>166557657
>You can't play offline by yourself endlessly mapping, gathering items, making new characters, modding etc.
its like you're not in 2017 where single player games requires an online connection.

But my point is that most play alone except to trade.

>>166557736
i have better ones....

>It's a Chayula's Breach drops 1 splinters episode
I'm so tired of this shit. Come the fuck on Chayula, show yourself so I can finish this shitty achievement and get some actual splinters.

>>166557914
>Implying you won't just fail the DPS check and buy the challenge anyways

>>166557953
>dps checks are still a barrier in the double-dipping meta

>>166557953
>buy the challenge anyways
only people without honor do that.

Still need Chayula to show up in a breach regardless

>>166558024
Ofc when my shitty homebrew build can't kill anything. I'm still having lots of fun though!

How the fuck I am supposed to buy things from poetrade when I got muted?

>>166558123
>he still can't comprehend that we're talking about new players who wont make it that far anyways
It's like I'm talking to handicapped people

>>166558268
Maybe you should stop acting like a teenager in global chat?