AWAY WITH ELANA
AWAY WITH SERAPH
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Banished: >>166304420
Storm Haven
Reminder to remove elf
Reminder that only literal shitters complained about Elana.
>>166323801
>The stats lie. Elana won 100% of the time. It was real in my mind
A card that is not even used anymore
>SHADOWverse
>he isn't playing SHADOWcraft
I REFUSE to play top tier decks
I'd rather bitch about them
Does Tia go into roach?
The final climb! Wish me luck /svg/!
>>166323786
What does Vampy's shirt say? I know the rest but not Vampy.
Anyone who plays Elana or seraph deserves to die a painful slow death
Haven shitters are literally the worst cancer in this game
Feetpussy wife
corruption cards when?
>>166323968
But I just did my 6 ranked wins daily with Shadow and went 6-0.
>>166323786
no discord?
>>166324004
>Anyone who plays Elana
Nobody plays Elana anymore
>>166323968
Is that Daria in the background?!
>>166323968
I always have.
Luna is cute. CUTE!
>>166323976
100% optional. Some prefer healing lion or other tech.
what would you guys change on this?
its a but janky, but it has done good by me.
>>166323983
go fys roach-fucker
>>166324004
ayyy lmao spotted the daria shitter
>>166324092
Playful Necromancer.
The image is pretty outdated.
>>166324196
x1s are disgusting don't do that.
>>166323968
whose hat is it behind the skeleton in the right corner?
>>166324032
The last one isn't the same character.
>>166323976
If you want to be a dick to other roach decks.
Other than that Will is the best choice, overall you still want Will unless you're facing mirror after mirror.
I feel like playing more elana now.
Should I go full elana or elanaseraph?
ayo look at this, above 60% percent when going second against most of the game classes
What. You don't want to reach masters in a month? Well then enjoy being stuck in AA0 forever loser
*levi fireball to the face sounds* Rowen dies
why is otohime bad now? i don't play a lot of sword so i'm genuinely curious.
>>166323976
She's good against aggro and ok against everything else because the deck so is broken you mostly win on turn 7 making her a dead draw usually.
>>166324210
Someone's gotta keep the best class in the game alive Anon. Forest will rise again.
>tfw no more ladder anxiety
who /me/ here
>>166324207
>Haven player is stuck up his own ass
whoa
>>166324419
>why is otohime bad now?
too much board clear in the game now
>>166324561
A card that is not even played anymore
>>166324659
Post it 100 more times, maybe it'll come true if you doIt wont
>>166324323
let's pretend that is amelia in her future
>>166324432
you only think forest is dead because you're playing garbage wolf bolt shit while everyone else plays otk roach
>>166324490
I wish I had no ladder anxiety.
Too bad I'm playing dragon.
Aggro Blood is below 50% in Master rank now
>>166324712
A deck considered tier 3 at best that is not even played anymore. Cygames please nerf it.
>>166324601
wouldn't baiting a board clear with 1 card be good? or is it a mix of that plus being too slow for the aggro matchups?
>>166324490
>ladder anxiety when playing Daria
>feels nothing when playing Aggro sword
>>166324343
This image always confused me, because I can't make up my mind if that is a face of genuine sorrow or a "she sees your dick" pity stare.
>>166324748
I just enjoy the forest is dead meme, it's still a top tier class. Also I'm not running wolf for bolt I'm running it forhomecoming.
>>166323873
>>166323959
>>166323950
here's golds that i got, i haven't decided on what deck im trying to play. just tell me what decks i can/should play with what i got or if i should just reroll
>>166324779
>daria players now use summon iceform
>bat dies
Like pottery.
>>166324196
>no levi
Its shit m8. Only reason not to have levi is unless you were doing the goblin/ dwarf/ pascale meme.
>>166324408
People will forever argue that going second is balanced because there's a couple of hyperaggro decks in the entire game that slightly prefer going first.
is this new dragon meta?
just ramping, trying to clear the board and not playing any followers?
>>166324016
Link full pic.
>>166324490
cant feel ranked anxiety if you dont play ranked
im already a3 and doing my dailies are hell, until they reset ranked i will never rank up ever again
>>166325069
Its the spiciest meme right now.
>>166324419
She's too slow. As a mid-range card she's fine, much like Cynthia, but since Daria bullied mid-range out of the meta she becomes not optimal, it also doesn't help that other classes have more ways to deal with her, but that would be bearable if the meta wasn't so Daria heavy.
>>166324807
>wouldn't baiting a board clear with 1 card be good?
It is. People who say that Otohime's fall from grace is because of clears clearly didn't play mid-Sword at all. Or just sucked at it, if that's even possible.
Mid-range Sword still shits on aggro in general, and she was never a key card on those match-ups, so nothing changed on that end.
>>166324880
Well you could start focusing on forest for now, since you got two selwyns, a will of the forest, and an AE
>>166324880
with what you have, you can play OTK forest. You have the selwyns for it, you have an ancient elf and a will of the forest, the rest can be yours if you triage viciously enough.
However personally if you have the time I'd suggest you reroll, you could do a bit better on legendaries and could definitely do better on golds, that's a really small haul
>>166323996
The anon that translated it said that it was something like "facefag".
>>166324779
aggro vampire has 50.6% in masters
vampire overall has 49.4% because cblood sucks
that's in masters only
>>166324841
It's because with Daria you expect yourself to win.
With sword you always expect the worse.
>>166324092
>>166324289
>>166324316
I think is actually Goetia mage, yeah i know that card exist.
>>166324880
Not too great here. You got some tech cards Forest uses and some easy animated vials though. You could build towards Roach for now, or reroll this and try for a better pool of golds.
This is kind of satisfying but I'm afraid to use it in ranked
Would you?
>>166325236
On paper she seemed like a great card.
Kill Elanas and banners, then she wasn't a great card.
She had pretty good voice lines too.
>>166324779
was only a matter of time
on top of the deck often fucking itself theres too much shit the enemy can do to fuck your shit up even harder
>>166325069
Everyone is desperately trying to make that AF OTK meme trash work right now. I have never come close to losing to it yet, and half the time they concede by turn 3-4.
>>166325410
>3D
>>166325078
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58068742
>>166325494
dude he is bullshitting you, check shadowlog
>>166325156
ah, i see. thanks for clearing things up, anon.
Anyone have a good discard dragon dick?
>>166325410
Meme aside, that is the most chunni looking bedroom.
>>166325410
chinks cosplaying is always gross
they never have the boobs or the curves to make it look good
>>166325410
it's either too blurry or heavily photoshopped
also who the fuck keeps flowers in their bedroom like some 19th century courtesan
>>166325672
>good
>>166325503
It only bad match up is aggro bat and daria if she has godhands. It beats control deck like dshift, seraph and control sword without a problem. You arent an unga aggro shitter or daria shitter are you?
>>166325672
no, because although i do have the list the deck itself certainly isn't "good" by any means
>>166325949
any aggro or even midrange shits on it
>>166325012
levi has triggered me to the point I don't want to play him myself.
>>166325875
>>166326005
I I see
Is the anon who posted this list last night in here? I want to discuss improvements to this list.
>>166326041
>midrange
Nope. Kills nep too.
>aggro
That's what i just said retard. Unga bunga bat detected.
>>166325069
Sahaqt stuff is the closest you'll come to a good dragon deck, if Dread Dragon healed for 4 on top of the damage it would still see play.
>"no one uses elana anymore"
>watch nippon streamer
>opponent hag drops elana
uh shadowbabs?
Why not make person that goes second choose from:
1) being able to evolve on 4th turn
2) having 3 evolve points
Why the fuck he gets both? Even aggro players prefer going second if they don't get a perfect draw.
>>166326195
nep is control
there are other aggro except bats
>>166326251
Cygames please nerf Elana
>>166325949
>It only bad match up is aggro bat
desu i've never played the matchup but shouldn't bats still lose because they get cucked hard by ancient elf
Wew.
Can anyone throw me a resign at 38961?
>>166326252
>Even aggro players prefer going second if they don't get a perfect draw
true that
>>166326252
How would the game handle the selection should the person going 2nd be afk?
Before or after mulligan?
Pick it AND which cards to mulligan?
It's not a shitty idea at all, in fact, it's pretty good. It's just they'd have to playtest and code and figure a way to deal with cancerous ropeburners.
>>166326375
>Dirtrune
I can respect this. Enjoy meming it up in masters.
Place your bets
>>166326375
well done, reddit
>>166326375
>1221 wins to masters
>>166326348
firstly he is speaking about discard dragon and secondly bats have dod for ancient elves
>>166326375
elliot gale... that reminds me of dorothy gale
why don't you play d. tempovich again
>>166326375
>1220 wins
I'm glad it's over and that's not even me.
>>166326375
Good job! I hope you like it here!
>>166326252
B-B-BUT AGGRO VAMPIRE AND NECRO ACTUALLY HAVE SLIGHTLY HIGHER WINRATE WHEN GOING FIRST WHICH PROVES THE SYSTEM IS BALANCED
>>166326252
It's bullshit that they get the extra card imo. Going second already gives you automatic card advantage with a 2-3 for 1. You don't need an extra card for no reason.
>>166326348
i feel like at least in the metagames he's referring to, the 8-9 one-drop variant of bats is prevalent which helps cuck forest out of a potent early elf
and a weak early elf is just a shittier temple defender
>>166326618
He's not playing Daria, what do you expected?
>>166326893
he was speaking about the altered fate one turn kill wildfang dragonewt deck, why did you bring bats
>>166326571
>>166326375
A thousand more victories until masters for me.
he played another one after and won
>>166326842
I think that extra draw makes sense if you're going against an aggro deck.
Any draw into your deck is draw that could be a on-curve 2-drop where you didn't have cards in hand.
It's when you get more evo points that activate effects and let you go 2-3 for 1 like you said that's silly. I think that one anon who suggested picking between first evo or x3 evo was onto something.
>>166326375
>literal 40% winrate
I admire you guys for being so persistent.
>>166327232
I'm honestly finding Execution better than Odin.I have 3 of each in my deck because of the rise of Seraph faggots.
>>166326252
Give the 1st a 3 evo slot already I lost so many games because of this
>>166327423
Oh wait, I forgot Execution doesn't kill it.
Fuck. Now I'm gonna remove them.
>>166327395
>>literal 40% winrate
what
>>166327153
I should've foreseen this!
>>166326375
Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my pascale... and my juno... even my golems. The matches I've lost... the hours I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make Daria give back our past.
>>166326375
why only 1 merlin and only 2 piercing rune?
also grats!
>>166327232
Thats why you run 3. Since nep deck cucks ramp dragon too.
>>166327232
Don't know why people get autistic about Elana when this shit will always be worse. Unless you are Rune there is one counter to this shit in the entire game, and it is a 3500 vial 8PP card that bricks your hand in aggro matchups.
>>166326375
Congrats Dirt anon
>>166327553
You need 50000 points to reach masters within 1221 victories means your winrate is 40%
Unless my math is fucked up.
Oglers are disgusting. Who decided that a 3/4 unit that can be spellboosted to 0 was okay?
Clarke is a overstatted shit. 2/3 and dodges nearly every removal is dumb.
Elana is retarded. There's literally nothing more unfun than fighting some fuck that heals literally every turn and gets rewarded for being an annoying fuck.
Seraph is disgusting. Why do we need a literal "I win the game" card that you can barely interact with?
At least give us more amulet banish cards and ways to deal with it /prevent it.
Daria belongs in a book of balance. 5/5 body that evolves to 7/7. Can be spellboosted to 0, spellboosts your hand by 5 and refills it.
>>166327753
t. batfucker?
>>166327232
>8+ turns
>opponent still at 20
You deserve it
>>166327590
But anon, my win rate drastically increased with this expansion. For all the shit Daria slings, the new toys and drastically different ladder were all worth it. At least as I see it.
>>166327630
It's likely you'll draw 1 of the 3 Fate's Hand before her, so when she goes and tutors the other two there's hardly any purpose in having another Merlin lurking around in the deck as a dead draw.
Piercing Rune is a card I would dearly love to max. I just haven't figured out how without costing myself games on the whole.
>>166327590
>I'm gonna make Daria give back our past
that's what urd does tho
>>166327693
or you can kill seraph faster than they drop/execute serpah
seraph is 48.9% in masters on shadowlog though (52.8% overall)
>>166327743
i don't even get how you counted it
>>166327753
daria honesly wouldn't even need to spellboost your cards and she would still be bullshit
>>166327693
If only cygames nerfed Elana already, haven would stop playing seraph decks
>>166326252
>giving the person going second this much agency
wont fix shit, will just make first even more cucked
Yes? Yes, your math is deeply, deeply fucked, beyond my ability to describe, so I'll just do my own back of the envelope calc.
50000/1221 means 40.95 points per win, which means .5905 losses per win
1/1.5905 implies a 62.87% winrate. The real winrate will obviously be substantially lower than this, given the amount of points you're fed for free as a result of playing higher ranked players, but if we model every loss as -100 and every win as +100 that's the winrate figure.
How do I make a deck with best girl
>>166328127
seraph decks already dont run elana
In 2 hours lewd vampy is coming.
>>166327753
>Crying about tier 3 decks
>>166328217
as opposed to what's going now, where they get both?
>>166326252
Going 1st used to have a major advantage back when 2nd just got the evo advantage. Then they added the extra card and it swung the other way. It's hard to unfuck without swinging it back to going 1st again, and I can see why they're still sitting on it.
>Forest quest
>Don't have Forest deck, lacking AE, Roach, Tia, all the good stuff
>Just based on spamming fairies and buffing them
>Go unranked
>Get the typical opener for OTK Combo.
>Opponent leaves turn 3 after May-return to hand shenanigans thinking I was probably a filthy netdecker wrecking noobs on unranked
>I didn't even had a win condition
Don't leave your games bois
>>166328397
No, no, no you don't understand. Elana is the real problem. Haven clearing my board every turn and instawinning on turn 9 are byproducts of the immense power of this amulet that has literally no counters and is used in every haven deck. Cygames should make it a 5 cost at least.
>>166327753
dude
just themis it
>>166328618
stop playing unga shit
>>166328618
Cygames just needs to give us more amulet destruction/banish.
Give us more cards that can banish/destroy amulets instead of "lol dude just run odin!!!"
What cards should I liquefy?
Only want to do it to absolute trash cards, like literally never
used and never will be, not kinda bad ones.
>>166328616
You know sometimes people leave in unranked because they want to test new decks and notice you're a shitter so no point in testing anything against people that can't fight back.Sometimes they take pity and concede before going lethal
>>166328345
Beg Cygames to make her a 7PP card instead of leaving her to rot.
>>166328746
>>166328771
>getting baited by elanafag
>>166328771
I wish dragon gets Disintegrate like spell where a lethal damage gets banished
>>166328771
>Cygames just needs to give us more amulet destruction/banish.
the thing is that doing so would completely kill seraph unless they make some kind of amulet protection shit
>>166326375
Well done anon!!
I've been trying to climb with dirt rune for the past month. Went from AA0 to AA2.
One day I will meme with you, my dear dirtbro.
>>166328345
Make a meme laelia deck.
>It's another "bounce endlessly between AA2 and AA3" day
>>166328746
>>166328771
>Replying seriously to the most heavy-handed, unsubtle sarcasm ever
>>166328993
I'm about 500 points away from AA1.
I'm ready for the pain of bouncing back and forth to begin.
>>166328616
>Opponent leaves turn 3 after May-return to hand shenanigans
>wasting bounces on fucking may in OTK elf
>>166328789
Flute and one LoTF are 100% safe legend vials.
>>166328896
Cygames please nerf this tier 3 deck I still have nightmares about it
Elana is pure stop complaining about it.
Daria is the problem screw overstatted mage monsters
>>166326375
Grats anon, I hope you enjoy the memes in masters. I certianly am. Also pretty sure I faced you on the ladder a couple times o.o. Name seems very familiar.
>>166328993
>>166329159
RANK LOST
>>166328962
Okay, but let's ask this.
Does Haven need Seraph? Would Sun Satan be enough for control variants? Could they make nihilism decks viable?
Screwing over Seraph does not have to screw over Haven.
>>166328962
>the thing is that doing so would completely kill seraph unless they make some kind of amulet protection shit
That's the point. We should be able to protect ourselves from a "I WIN SORRY BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME" button. Elana at least can be destroyed but destroying their Seraph only helps them and the only one that can banish amulets is Odin except for some cards in certain crafts like Rune or playing haven yourself.
>>166329281
Cygames please make haven go back to pre-DE when only Sun Satan was viable
>>166325410
Post source
>>166328962
You mean like Haven's banish giving them free wins over Shadow since the game came out?
Boohoo, if Haven keeps getting cards to pop amulets early there should be neutral counters to countdown amulets.
>>166328789
X= vial
O= meme
>>166329281
It doesn't strictly need Seraph, no. It's the fear factor of Seraph existing that forces opponents to hold onto their banish effects instead of using them on real threats, however, and I'm not so sure that's healthy.
>>166329159
>I'm ready for the pain of bouncing back and forth to begin.
eh, just have one good day where you're piloting a deck well suited for the meta and you can barrel into the middle of the rank and bounce back and forth within the rank without rank loss messages
I chunked out a couple thou with seraph haven and OTK roach to get into AA1 and AA2 respectively, when people were apparently in a position to be blindsided by the deck. Just waiting to anticipate the next fad before climbing to AA3.
>long date sword player
>got from beginner to AA0 playing sword
>RoB comes
>sword loses to daria so it's unplayable on ladder
>try aggro bat, can't get used to it
>try Daria, can't get used to it
>try aggro shadow, can't get used to it
>anxiety non stop whenever I click the ranked button because I know I'm playing a deck I don't feel like
Send help.
I still haven't gotten the Lily sleeves and the month is nearly ending.
I hate this new meta.
>>166329496
>not circling phoenix meme
>>166328789
Don't dust Dragonsong
Yeah it's bad but I'm having the time of my life in unranked right now. Spiciest meme deck
>>166329583
Phoenix is a legit deck nowdays.
>>166329496
XO Rogue's Creed, nice.
>>166329579
play aggro sword and face your way to the 12k rewards
>>166329496
>Vialing Arthas
Don't do that.
>>166329579
Maybe if you play with sword ?
sword have a better winrate than before because to survive in the meta you need to be smart.
>>166329480
Dragon gets cucked by shadow way harder but thankfully they are not whiny bitches about it.
>>166329839
Maybe because fucking nobody plays Dragon.
>>166329579
you have severe autism, and also brain damage from being dropped on the head as a child
>>166329839
Dragon not being cucked by shadow wouldn't change anything for them.
>>166329923
B rank?
>elf shitter plays a 6/7 AE but doesn't evolve it nor trade
Too bad for him I'm one of the few aggro shadow shitters that put Urn on their decks.
>>166329709
Tried this thing already. It bricks a lot and feels like a worse version of the above mentioned decks.
I just wish midrange wasn't dead. That deck was the best, not too late not too aggro. Right now you're supposed to either be total control or total aggro, I don't like it.
>>166329786
Daria is the problem not sword. AA is too filled with them right now.
post aggro sword decklist
>>166329175
i saw an elf who bounced khaiza for those sweet carrots, lol
Anyone wanna concede for me for private match quest?
83186
>>166329496
what the hell does meme mean
>>166327928
retard doesn't understand haven can heal and the guy isn't playing anything aggro since he's a control/ramp deck
>>166330016
Yes it would. The dragon shadow matchup is abysmal right now, it's like 3-7 or something like that if I remember correctly. It's so fucking bad
>>166323968
Really liking the new fanart for Luna.
>>166330184
Memes, the DNA of the soul.goddamn it I only remember the part where he says wind blows, rain falls, and the strong prey on the weak There's nothing to be ashamed of, it's just nature running its course.
>>166327423
>>166327483
retard
>mine Khawy
>always kill the weakest follower
>his Khawy
>always kill the strongest follower
I didn't leave HS for this shit.
>>166330335
Okay, yea, that's pretty shitty. That matchup wouldn't matter compared to if Dragon had better matchups in general or just Rune even since unlike Haven in DE, Shadow isn't prevalent in the ladder, Rune is.
HEAR THE DRAGON'S ROAR
>>166329496
>>166330184
please respond
the list is helpful but does meme mean really bad and never used?
>>166330636
you chose an image and solved a captcha to post this? really?
>>166330597
fuck off
>>166330636
(You)
>>166330662
maximum memes
>>166330693
Tier 3-4 decks out of meta.
>>166330716
kek
>>166330693
in theory, vial means really bad and never used, meme means bad but used in decks that showcase the unique effect
in practice, that list is garbage, saying to vial ice blade warfiend and not saying to vial kaguya, incandescent dragon / polyphonic / elf of the gemstones are also pretty awful
>3x ambushed unica
>balanced
>>166330827
but I've seen luxhorn sarrisa in seraph decks
so X is never used, O is only used in bad stuff
>>166330020
>recently played vs some elf as aggro shadow, had two dod in my hand
>he plays some elven healing shit, elf healer, evolves her, and is going to heal up the next turn, so he doesn't kill my mummy to keep his healing cancer up for longer, 3/6 is better than 3/4
>dod her, evolve the mummy he didn't kill and hit his face
>he plays four followers, ancient elf, evolves her, and, taught by the experience, kills my mummy
>dod his ancient elf and proceed to murder him
it was so satisfying at that point, lol
Discard meme needs a card that shuffles a card in your hand back into your deck.
>>166323786
>Turn 7
>Daria, Daria, Daria, Roach, Roach, Roach, Albert, Albert, Albert
This game has quickly gone to shit. All decks are aggro Decks now. The only way to counter cancer is with cancer or wards.
>>166331035
>>166331003
Forget to add kaguya but Sarissa is really rare to use in Haven decks.
>>166331204
t. Haven nu-male
Shadow/Satan hmm not such a bad idea.
>>166331204
Just play Dirt Rune or Sun Satan
tfw
>>166331267
>>166331003
man idk who to trust so i guess ill just vial golem and flute for now
I love that we have so many ESL posters in this general. It's socute
>>166330373
is it ghosts from phantom howl?
>mfw I always thought that daria only gives you back as many cards as you banished
>>166331421
Yes.
>>166331424
t. average daria player
>>166331405
You're making me hazukashi.
I need a concede, will concede back for you if you need it.
Match ID: 48746
>>166331528
they always have a full fucking hand anyway
im like oh, this time she's finally playing it out of an empty hand, should be okay
never mind, 5 cards boosted to shit every time
reeeee
>>166331460
why is one of them so reluctant to hug while the rest queued up for hugging
>>166331345
Nah, I'm just fucking sick and tired of losing clenched games cause 10 face damage albert, 14face damage roach or Levi+ piercing rune + daria wombo combos out of one turn.
Doesn't matter how smart you play, or how much board dominance you have. They can just coast on their fuck you I win cards. They are only required to do chip damage for the first 6 turns then bank on luck to have the right card by turn 7.
>>166331574
T-thanks anon.
>>166331382
i've had someone use azazel + limil on me before in a mirror match, still won though
>>166331703
Because that one is soul conversion bait.
>>166331382
who won?
>>166331762
If you're losing to those obviously you didn't have board dominance
Fear the stronk Shadow Unica
>>166331886
I don't know, my friend sent me this. I think his opponent because he was really pissed off.
> he let the Fervid Soldier live
lol
>use elf child may effect on my 4/3 evolved temple guardian
>doh
>evolves it
>runs it in to temple guardian
>still doesn't die
jesus fucking christ, I thought quickblading the guardian was dumb
>queue up as dirt because of inspirational post
>get matched with haven
>first draw is a petrification
>keep it in hand for seraph
>opponent was pure elana
Why would you not play Seraph?
His 2 elanas got destroyed by double Bahamut.
>>166331971
Tip:
They don't have to attack the enemy monsters before attacking your leader in order to win the game.
>>166331204
So play wards. This is like playing an RPG with a party optimized for damage with no white mage and then being upset when you die.
>>166331762
>They are only required to do chip damage for the first 6 turns
this is why more classes need healing desu
i am aware that the sahaquel+lucifer package is neutral but that's a shitton of vials, plus it's very awkward to have all control decks rely on the same neutralcraft finishers
New possible player here, I'm reading the pastebin and all but be honest with me here
How grindy is this game?
Can I git gud if I never pay anything?
How much mobile data this uses?
It all resumes into, I could never got into Rage of Bahamut, hated the gridning system and how jewish it was and the insane amount of data it used, considering this is by the same studio, how similar it is? Considering Bahamut died in the west and this is more and more popular I'm willing to give it a chance. Just to have more than one app I play with, BE being the only thing I'm into right now in my phone
>>166331762
>BAAWWW WHY CAN'T I JUST PLAY SERAPH AND WIN IN PEACE
Havenfag tears sustain me
>>166332285
Healing is cancer
I want to play fun close games, not spend 30 turns dealing with some cunt's wards and heals
>>166332285
>this is why more classes need healing desu
healing is cancer
>>166332236
And whose fault is it for ignoring them so they can hit you?
>>166332302
>grind
If you roll you can have 2 tier 1 decks right now they give tons of packs and fun for you.
>>166332379
>I want to play fun close games
you might want to pick a different game genre then
>>166331364
>>166332254
>play wards
>lmao piercing rune, DoD, endless followers with storm that can still chip you out
Also one single ward won't do shit about daria vomiting followers all over the board
>>166332145
I always feel bamboozled by this too. I've even lost a game or two for not using Petrify on other big threats because there was no way I was going to get cheesed by Seraph.
>>166332302
Very.
Yes.
No idea.
>>166332285
>healing
You can fuck right off and never come back. Real players use wards.
>>166332029
Unica strong!
>>166332379
yeah well fuck what you want fuccboi
different archetypes make the game play out differently. having only aggroshitters and dariashitters finish by turn 9 is bullshit
>>166332564
wards are not supposed to be your guaranteed win anyway
rune is bs though and i hope is nerfed soon
>>166332302
It's only grindy to climb ranks and that's if you don't whore out and use a meta deck.
It's f2p friendly, although it is falling off a little bit in that regard due to the fact that time has elapsed and players who are older got packs tossed at them longer, however they'll throw packs at you too so it is still f2p friendly.
I don't know about mobile data, I'm a steamfag myself.
>>166332375
>Havenfag tears sustain me
I'm not heaven though and my only heaven deck is a storm heaven one. Don't have 3 elana's and don't have 3 seraphs. And just now, I lost to a 1 face damage remaining opponent, cause he used some weird card that brought me down from 20hp to 1 then hit me once to win.
I'm just losing interest in this game cause you HAVE to build a net deck to do good. And I hear Heartstone is worse in this regard? Game isn't old enough to have this much power creep.
>>166332657
No one wants to have 40 turn games, that shit is cancer
I want to play a game, have fun and move on to the next. Not fight a crusade of a hundred years then repeat that again if I want to rank up.
>>166332621
very experienced unica
>>166332742
>you HAVE to build a net deck to do good
what did you expect from any competitive ccg?
>>166332302
>How much mobile data this uses?
I played two matches today on the go and I was watching to see how much, not very much at all, less than 4mb according to the meter on my phone
>>166332742
>Losing to Satan
You should probably get out of D rank before you start trying to talk about balance
>>166332302
It's not grindy at all, you can make a couple of great decks very quickly with all the free packs and gold they give. Unless you mean grindy in the sense of reaching Master rank or top 100, then it is very grindy.
You can get about one pack a day if you do all your daily quests, if not more, depending on the quests you are given.
The Arena is pretty fun and you can almost go on a infinite cycle if you get 3+ wins consistently.
As for mobile data, I have a 100mb daily cap and I've never used up all of it by playing.
I usually play around 6-8 matches on my phone.
>sword secretly with the best winrates again
Ok guys why 100% of the thread is swordbbs?
Be worse at this game than I am. I fucking dare you.
>>166332789
and I don't want to play every single game that's a crunch to get your OTK/aggro flooding bullshit so again, fuck what you want fuccboi, deal with the playstyles of the people you play against
>>166332886
I'm in B 0 rank.
>Tfw you want to ambush sword but only have aggro cards
>>166332742
>you HAVE to build a net deck to do good.
Not really.
>>166332742
>And just now, I lost to a 1 face damage remaining opponent, cause he used some weird card that brought me down from 20hp to 1 then hit me once to win
>lost to a meme deck
>went to 4chan to complain he needs a netdeck to win
lol
>>166332742
>He doesn't know about Satan Deck
The moment that shit comes in, you're capable of losing to anything in that deck. Unless you can kill them right then and there or clear their field and stay above 8 health, 10 if they have evo. As someone who used Satan once upon a time, I can tell you it is possible for control decks to squeeze out a win if they were smart about holding their strong cards.
>>166332981
>losing to dragoncuck
I will never
>>166332928
Who are you quoting
>>166332981
What deck?
>>166332742
Can you stop spilling shit from your keyboard?
Get out of D rank already and learn to git gud.
In this game there are real win conditions for control decks don't just grind the enemy until you lose to card draw.
>>166333001
Then don't talk as if you know anything about the game.
>>166333181
Dirt Rune. Some net deck. The games would always grind forever, and I never drew my one Satan. I would have put two in but I don't have two and I hate crafting legendaries.
We need a bingo for new players.
>satan bullshit
>spell 19 damage
>vampiric fortress
>mordecai is OP
>elana is OP
>ramp dragon is OP
>d-shift is unfair
What more?
>https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/vod/imagine/20170117/
>The popular trading card game "Shadowverse"
>trading
>card
>game
>People playing Daria on Unranked
Is there any point or satisfaction to carbon copy a netdeck and not even win brownie points? It's an autopilot deck, there's nothing fun about it.
I'd understand if they were going for the ranked laddering, but not even that.
What goes inside a mind of a Dariafag of Unranked?
>>166332302
i have a shitton of data so i don't really notice, but I am told it's relatively low-burden on that front. I might be confusing it with a different game though
between login bonus and daily quests you should be able to afford a new deck every 2 weeks or so. Either branching out into a different class from the ones you started with coming off your initial reroll, or moving into a more expensive archetype under the same class.
>>166332531
>>166332579
>>166332687
>>166332860
>>166332912
Thanks, I think I'll give it a chance, so I assume you don't actually level up in bullshit ways the cards like in Bahamut?
Gonna check the data mysefl then, can I play both on my phone and steam with the same account?
And last and obvious question
Can I git gud by using only qt girls cards in my deck?
>>166333343
>Aggro requires no thinking
>>166333343
Daria is good
How do Master ranks work, are higher numbers better or lower numbers?
>>166333343
> What more?
shut the fuck up stupid ESL
>>166333343
>Pascale buff
>20/20 Rune Blade Summoner
>Flame and Glass
>>166333323
Net decking dirt is a horrible, horrible mistake. Not because dirt is bad - far from it - but because it's so malleable. You're supposed to take the very small core of essential key cards and expand on it so that it works as well as it can in the widest variety of match-ups. Focusing on one or two like most players did back in DE isn't any good; the RoB format has about 12 viable decks you need to check.
>>166333323
It's still inconsistent imo, but when it works it's amazing
>>166333190
>In this game there are real win conditions for control decks don't just grind the enemy until you lose to card draw.
Tell that to Dirt Rune.;-;
anyone got an aggro sword deck list?
>>166333001
You need to change your mindset and gain humility and learn the game honestly.
Is Bloody Mary currently good or can I grab those free vials?
>>166332742
>being this much of a special snowflake
kys
>>166333136
But that's what I dislike about the game. I'm just playing the game naturally, getting packs from daily rupies, making decks with what I get and without any strong "I Win" cards. Playing I win cards doesn't equal to skill, it just means that I lack those cards.
I have no options now that I'm at a high enough rank where I face nothing but premade net decks, all running very specific cards, all the time. Why does Satan card exist where I had the enemy near death, then he takes me to 1 from 20 and wins in one turn? Where is my Satan or Alberts, or Darias or Roaches? I didn't get out skilled or out played, I got out powered cause I don't have I Win cards.
And when you point this out, /svg/ runs to defend their waifu.
>>166333582
>Tell that to Dirt Rune. ;-;
No fucking way, Rune don't deserve another good deck.
>d-shift kill control
>daria kill mid range
>dirt rune would kill aggro if they have a wincon
>>166333503
This is for new players, not people stuck in C rank.
>>166333476
>Can I git gud by using only qt girls cards in my deck?
daria's kinda cute, and you only need 3 of her to be unstoppable
>>166333509
Higher is better and also tells you they grinded alot
>>166333442
doing dailies/testing the deck
yesterday i did my dailies with a full otk roach there because i am not very confident with it to play it ranked
>>166333476
>Can I git gud by using only qt girls cards in my deck?
a typical 4chan onanist
>>166333627
still a good cblood card imo
>>166333696
Not trying to be a dick, but if shit like that bothers you, then CCG's are not for you. Play something else.
>>166333343
>going first is autolose no matter the deck.
>>166333696
Should have rerolled my dude, everyone has access to the same cards
>>166333759
Thanks anon.
>>166333017
You will just get frustrated really fast after you notice you lose most matches against every class and regret spending vials.
>>166333427
>Arisa who is a super hot elf
Literally can't stop being lewd even towards professional tv reporters, remove elf!
>>166333696
You craft those "I win" cards then you doofus.
Every build and craft has access to them. It's how they're able to win.
>>166333747
ogler is cute too, you will learn to love its tentacles and loving gaze!
>>166333850
>There's a couple of decks in the entire game that prefer going first, this means the current system is balanced
>>166333696
>I have no options now that I'm at a high enough rank where I face nothing but premade net decks, all running very specific cards, all the time. Why does Satan card exist where I had the enemy near death, then he takes me to 1 from 20 and wins in one turn? Where is my Satan or Alberts, or Darias or Roaches? I didn't get out skilled or out played, I got out powered cause I don't have I Win cards.
This is bait right?
>everyone can re roll in this game
>they give more than 50 packs for newplayers.
>one of the best decks uses only 5-3 golds
If you are not trying to bait us, show your gold and legendary collection.
Well, this was fun
>>166334028
I think c-clarke is cute too
>>166333696
Why don't you just craft cards with fucking vials?
Also, Satan was made to be a win condition, and it is not even that good.
I've been playing on an alt for 5 days and I am already swimming in legendaries without spending any money on it. I made Aggro Sword and a Seraph deck with what I pulled and I am having 0 trouble climbing.
All you need to do is reroll properly and you'll never have any problems with lacking cards.
>>166332512
>>166332603
>real players lose to dance of death!
print a cheap neutral equivalent to frontguard general and then we can talk about heals being cancer
otherwise get out my face with that bullshit
>>166330032
>I just wish midrange wasn't dead
Thank themis.
>>166334089
Mord and Urd is the best pairing.
>>166333476
The only thing you can level up are the crafts, which has no effect on gameplay, but it does give rewards.
You can link your phone account to steam and vice-versa. Make sure to reroll using your phone or an emulator to optimize your collection before linking, if you are into that.
And yes, lots of cute girls have strong effects and are used on a lot of decks, usually assuming the position of gold or legendary cards.
>>166334185
>Themis is why midrange is dead
>Before RoB midrange is fine and Themis exists
>After RoB midrange is dead and Themis exists
Can i have a concede, thanks.
72340
>>166333730
>>d-shift kill control
>>daria kill mid range
Why is Rune so cancerous? Can we remove that Craft already?
>>166333850
They should make the difference between going first and second more unclear so no shitter would complain like in HS.
>>166333840
>Not trying to be a dick
You're not being one, and I'm not going to get my feelings hurt cause someone said mean things over the internet. I've been reading everyone's posts and they all seem to sum up as:
>You can do the same too IE, build a net deck with OP cards
And
>Stop bitching cause people have better cards 'n you don't
Nothing I can do but grind to make equally OP decks just like everyone.
>>166333696
Liquefy cards that you don't need, animates cards even. Then create cards you need. It's simple like that. I didn't reroll when I started playing and got my ass kicked at the beginning but I never bitched about it in this general. I just kept on playing, opening packs and creating the cards I needed for my decks.
>>166333696
>Why does Satan card exist where I had the enemy near death, then he takes me to 1 from 20 and wins in one turn?
that was a pretty cool win and if you weren't so salty you would see it
i bet you would be mad at something like this >>166325406 too
card games don't work like you just toss random cards into a deck and hope they will work together, they should have a great synergy with each other, if you lack some cards you craft them
>>166334121
dod was specifically made because too overbearing wards are bad for the game
>>166334071
>>166334539
I was talking about in the sense of the post a new player would make.
Experienced players know that there's an advantage to be had and it does need to be tweaked, but they understand that it only makes it insurmountable against Rune but that's hardly the fault of evo points and more so of Rune abusing the mechanic with their cards. Thus are not as vocal about it opposed to a new player.
>>166334257
Then why do I see "evolved" version of cards?
How time consuming it's rerolling?
Heck If this is free player friendly I'll just start and work from there if I actyally like the game
Here goes nothing, sorry for asking so many questions
>>166334573
But you don't need to grind, is the thing
>>166334730
"evolved" verison of cards is a mechanic that's accessible to everyone invariably.
>>166334515
fedoras need their faggot mage class to play this is why we have these shit things in all gamesbtw i like mages class in role play
>>166334573
>>You can do the same too IE, build a net deck with OP cards
You don't know what netdecking is and you don't know what "OP" means.
>Nothing I can do but grind to make equally OP decks just like everyone.
Everyone has been telling you to reroll and craft what you need for your decks. That requires 0 (zero) grinding with shitty cards.
>I've been reading everyone's posts
No you haven't. If you have, you should look to improve your reading comprehension.
Should I create 2 cerberus, 2 seraphs or 2 fortes? They are all I need to complete their decks
>>166334573
Just reroll then my friend.
If you are not having fun or advancing at the pace you want because you lack the cards you need, rerolling will do you better than just smashing your face against a wall of Daria, Roaches and Seraphs.
Otherwise if you don't want to give up on your account, just put some crystals in it and buy packs through daily deals.
>>166334089
how did you give ward to one of the mordekaizers?
>20 cards left in the deck
>use the otk 2 newt combo with 9 cards, drawing back 6 cards in the process
>sorry, rowen, but your next fate is in the last 14 cards
It sucks when it fails, but nothing like remove that smug on that haven/forest users.
>>166334185
More like thanks piercing rune and Levi.
this shit is miles better than hearthshit in terms of gameplay and concept
the meta seems super rigid though, I guess bullshit amounts of rng make everything more/less competitively viable
HS is gay though and a pretty gross money grab when you compare it to this
>>166334943
Dirt Rune-based mage class would've been fine with me.
With spellboost being the odd mechanic out.
>>166334573
Is possible to have all the goods cards of this game if you play for 5 months and have a average lucky
>>166334391
Not him but it's important to recognize how much options coverage tribunal and lion spirit give haven
Even if midrange weren't cucked out of the meta by daria, seraph would still be pressing down on the middle of the meta forcing people into consistent fast aggro or decks that can support odin
>>166334956
Better create 2 Darias and win.
>>166334956
Cerberus. Aggro Shadow is actually decent and Cerberus will always be a good card in different kind of decks in case you want to play them. Seraph is limited to Seraph decks and Dragon sucks.
>>166335169
implying aggro necro isn't like 55% currently on shadowlog
>>166334730
>Then why do I see "evolved" version of cards?
Evolving is a mechanic in this game. After turn 4 (for the player who goes second) or 5 (for the player who goes first), players can evolve the followers they have in play. An evolved follower has buffed stats (normally) and a different artwork.
>>166334730
>Then why do I see "evolved" version of cards?
Evolution is a game mechanic , it happens inside the matches, not outside, so you dont have to grind anything for it.
>How time consuming it's rerolling?
Very, I dont reccomend it unless you really want some good starting cards or have a clear idea of what decks you want to start using, besides I didnt reroll even once and had shitty legos at first, after just 2 months I have nine decks to play with and tons of legos, just playing cassually
>sorry for asking so many questions
Dont be, asking questions is how you learn things that you dont know
Also, dont forget to post your legos and golds here so we can tell you what is usefull and what is notbut not before bullying you
>>166335061
I find Mage Dragon better than all rune decks there's a actual setup to win not just vomiting spells and removing shit.
>>166334956
GLORY BE
>>166335251
Still lower than Daria, mate.
Also Daria has advantage over aggro shadow in matchup between the two of them.
>>166334956
Craft Cerb because she's cute.
>>166335404
actually higher
aggro vampy player looking for a HAVENCRAFT DICK pls share
>>166334994
Ghostly Rider.
>>166335053
Well HS, does have mechanics and design I can actually appreciate, it's just drowned by incompetence and greed. The meta being rigid isn't a deal-breaker if they release an expac to mix things up every 3 months, and the current meta changes up as options to counter things are utilized.
>>166335251
>rely heavily on getting that curve
>requiring on your opponent to not be bricking with 2 removals on turn 2 & 3
>lose to any form of Haven deck
>still lose to tempo forest
Nah, aggro shadow is overestimated.
>>166335053
>the meta seems super rigid though, I guess bullshit amounts of rng make everything more/less competitively viable
Is actually more possible to tech and make decks against the meta here than in HS.
>>166335108
I can agree with that I just don't think saying Themis is the only card responsible for it is silly. Even with all the options classes like Haven got you'd still see midrange decks if Daria wasn't so brained and busted that it's such a large chunk of the ladder.
>>166335169
I already completed my Daria deck friend
>>166335198
>>166335408
>>166335356
wew guess I'll create cerberus, I hope one day dragon will be viable again
>>166335441
lol wut
>>166334730
Don't worry about making so many questions, we all started without knowing stuff.
Evolving is a in-match mechanism, accessible to everyone. What it does is buff one of your creatures and sometimes give them extra effects. The whole selling point of the game is being able to swing the matches by evolving your cards.
Rerolling can be a bit time consuming but if you use a emulator, such as Nox, you can record the actions necessary (all you have to do is skip the tutorial and do a couple quick matches, takes about 3-4 min). Then you open the packs and see what you got. If it's good then you keep it otherwise you erase that profile and start over again.
Here's a video, don't mind the date, the process should be the same as of now. Also don't aim for a perfect roll, just try to get playable legendaries and gold cards so you can start out.
Do post your rerolls if you want help with what is good and what is not, but always take whatever is said with a grain of salt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKMoJPP3psw
>>166335450
New Storm,Elana,Elana seraph, Sun Serapha, Pure Seraph?
>>166324092
She's everywhere. No one is safe.
>>166335684
Not him, but what's the new Storm Haven list?
Mine is outdated and hard to do dailies with.
>>166335341
I will agree with you on that thought.
I'm actually hoping they accidentally get stronger support.
>>166334730
>How time consuming it's rerolling?
Not too much, unless you are looking for something very specific. I'd say to not reroll before starting playing though. Create an account and play the game for a bit and see if it's worth investing the time you'd spend rerolling. You can get a decent roll in about half an hour if you are lucky. If you are looking for specific cards/classes or a big (8+) amount of legendaries, it can take you way more than an hour depending on how specific the thing you want is.
I created an alt a few days ago and I got a roll with 10 legendaries (9 of them were at least decent) in around an hour and a half.
>>166335458
HS mechanics are the most basic garbage
it took them like 3 expacs and 4 """"""""""adventures"""""""""""" to start making effects that would fish for certain cards in your deck
things like joust are literally slightly weighted dice rolls at best
>>166335053
>the meta seems super rigid though
That's probably because you're higher level in shadowverse than you are in hearthstone, much like most of the thread. The rank 5 and up ladder is hearthstone is comparable rigid to the A rank and above ladder here, except if hearthstone culture if you only rank to 5 every month you're seen as a decent and relatively hardcore player, as opposed to shadowverse culture which goes lol a rank shitter
Shadowverse has roughly 11% usage for 6 of the crafts and then rune eats the remaining 34%, whereas hearthstone has roughly 20% usage for the patches trinity, roughly 10% usage for druid/mage/warlock, and then priest gnaws the meat off the leftovers before throwing paladin/hunter the bones to suck for marrow. Not really that big of a difference if you're a mid tier main
>>166335837
Shadowverse is not doing any better with the new mechanics though. While Enhance is well distributed among classes, Clash is only available for 4-5 cards.
>>166334080
>If you are not trying to bait us, show your gold and legendary collection.
Trying but it says file size too big. I'll try and break it down to two images.
>>166335837
I was talking about stuff like choosing effects and Grim Patron. Along with that follower who pings the board for 1 with every spell played, and the fact that multiple decks were able to use him differently and effectively. Warrior cards rewarding damaged followers.
You're not wrong that they're missing things, but they do have some neat mechanics that would shine if not for paywalls, RNG and shitty balance.
>>166335781https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.7.640Ho.640Ho.640Ho.640Hy.640Hy.640Hy.67pxY.67pxY.67pxY.6BgX6.6BgX6.60COQ.60COQ.60COa.60COa.645AS.645AS.67st2.67st2.67st2.63_os.642Ey.642Ey.642Ey.640IQ.640IQ.640IQ.61PnY.61PnY.60E5y.60E5y.60E5y.659nE.659nE.6477S.67uqM.67uqM.67uqM.645Pw.645Pw
This one seems goodactually is from gamepressin the last tourny a lot of people were using storm haven actually we need more people thinking and refining this deck to be useful Haven still have godly removal to counter Daria.
>>166336065
Clash has only been out for one expansion and there are cards like Dark Elf or the sword leader that are pseudo-clash. Meanwhile HS has had enrage since beta and they still only have 9 enrage cards.
61279
Can someone concede please?
What do I melt
>>166336065
Enhance is easier to fit in cards than Clash is.
>mfw the only way to win is playing aggro
fug
obvious left but feels bad
>>166336339
thy
>>166336438
>Mfwcucks like you.
>>166333730
Isn't PtP already a wincon for Dirt Rune? Sure it's slow, but when you hit 30 Shadows it can be spell death.
>tfw ladder anxiety even though I gain a lot of points each session
I'd be Master already if not for this bullshit.
>>166336547
PtP fell off pretty hard thanks to Bahamut.
You can try to use it, but you shouldn't be using altered fate or putting in cards because it helps with PtP and only PtP
>>166336547
Bahamut makes PtP a meme.
>>166335596
proof
it's from shadowlog
all ranks, in masters aggro shadow is 54.8% and dorothy is about the same
actually by the new data it's 54.9% in masters vs 52.9% on dorothy and about the same 53.6% dorothy vs 53.9% aggro necro all ranks
you use some bs low games reported deck for your "proof", not the main tempo rune entry
>>166336483
>not always picking castle
>>166336086
>>166336270
What whale dude.
You can make:
>roach otk
Pretty hard to pilot but good if you git gud
>d-shift
Don't recommend it in low ranks
>aggro bat
Easy to pilot and win
You have more useful things but these decks are in your range.
Good lucky have fun
>>166336065
those effects are harder to anticipate and play around though, can be teched in and mostly have defined results
I haven't played hs in a year or so but for a while there was a really strong archetype that was based around le DUDE SPAM RANDOM SPELLS IN RANDOM DIRECTIONS LMAO leggo. only being able to have one of each leggo in a deck makes shit depend on card drawing RNG too, decks using alextrasza being a prime example. if that shit's on the bottom of your deck you will lose to casuals playing budget aggro decks 9 times out of ten
>>166336216
they might have some stuff other online ccgs don't have but on the whole it's watered down coin flipping bullshit to appeal to the casual player, and they haven't innovated anything over traditional TCGs at all
>>166336789
That's tempo rune.
Aggro rune (the correct deck) is 57% winrate.
>>166336483
There is nothing wrong with having a dragon who is cosplaying as a maid.
>>166336789
Seeing this stats aggro shadow is more reliable since going first and second don't make such difference.
>>166336819
>roach otk hard to pilot
please stop this
>>166336979
It is if you're unfamiliar with the game
>>166336483
I swear they have some kind of algorithm that increases the chance of the castle being paired up with the legendary.
>>166336931
of course not, I'm complaining about having to put a boy in my deck, which is not cute at all
>10(ten)wins streak
No witch can handle this sword
>>166336483
pick right
believe in the memes
>>166336086
>>166336270
You can vial a lot of that for more useful cards.
Skullfane, Pluto, Jeanne and Mithrill Golem are instant 4k vials, since they are completely useless or not played at all.
Imperial Dragoon is the win condition of Discard Dragon, which is a trash deck, though it might get better on the next expansion. You can vial him if you really need the vials.
Fafnir is meh now thanks to Bahamut, so you can also vial him if you need to.
Demonic Simulacrum, Gemstaff Commander, First Curse, Castle in the Sky, Phantom Dragon, Elf of the Gemstones, Wyrm Spire, Medusa, Kaguya, Archangel Reina, Furiae, Orb Dragon and Incandescent Dragon are all Golds you should be 100% fine with vialing as well, as they are around the same trash tier as Skullfane and the other Legendaries I mentioned above.
There, you should have a shit ton of vials with this. Make whatever deck you want.
>>166337139
keep up the good work
>>166337139
>tfw you will never be Daria and seduce Albert so you can make ubermensch children with him
>>166336979
Even if is not algebraic geometry is way harder than 90% of CCGs decks.
>>166336931
it's not a dragon, it's some newt
>>166337139
Post dick.
>>166337076
>He doesn't think mama boys are cute
I like him. Just not sexually.
>>166336819
>Good lucky have fun
I'm going to quit playing after today. My whole point was that I didn't want to make net necks but my own decks with the cards that I liked the most.
Don't get why people got so mad over me not wanting to make OP cards and specific net decks. I've spent money on the game, got to B 0 and had fun but this is where I get off.
Maybe next expansion more deck types other than aggro with certain killer cards will be "good". Don't want to dust any of my cards, that ruins the value of the $ I put into the game.
>>166337139
>photoshoping fake sword wins
>tfw just lost to cooncraft 5 times in a row
>>166337371
>Just not sexually
you think
>>166336970
It's funny since last time I pilot it, that deck is rather bad when going second.
>you play a 1-drop
>your opponent plays a 2/2 that contests with it, allowing him to kill the 1-drop before going for the 2-drop
>Select Leader
Is this a one time thing? Or do I change it to whatever later?
>>166337409
>Deck types other than aggro will be "good"
>Literally two decks in the meta are aggro
thatsbait.gif
>>166337458
I-it's not gay if balls don't touch.
Can someone answer me this before i get banned, is envybae a guy or a girl?
>>166337434
sword?
>>166337434
>cooncraft
coon? raccoon? forest?
>>166337471
aggro shadow benefits from evolves a lot though
>>166337509
dude, get lost already, i dunno why they spoonfeed you so much but here you are going full retard
>>166336340
If you have that many golds, you probably don't need the vials.
>>166337509
whatever later.
try them all out before you commit to anything.
also we should have FAQ, what do you guys think?
>>166337581
Born male
anon-kun, you should play some real card games with your friends!
Swordbros
Do you run odin in control sword deck?
>>166337409
>Maybe next expansion more deck types other than aggro with certain killer cards will be "good"
Good lucky trying to get that. all card games are like that everyone is try hard after some time.
>aggro meta
If they nerf aggro d-shift and seraph will come back and no one want this shit back. now all the controldecks are playable thanks to aggrobat and daria removing d-shift from the ladder.
>>166337670
Thanks. Also where do I get "Priest of the Cudgel"? I can't craft any.
>>166337409
You're the kind of guy that wants to be a hipster, create your own shit, and want your shit to be good as well. You can't have both man, unless you're really good at deckbuilding and you understand this game.
You either have a meta deck that has a good winrate, or a homemade deck that has a lower winrate. Meme decks don't perform, you have to accept it.
>>166337670
Thanks, and yes you should it would help a lot
>>166337720
>Needless 2 never
>Authour still M.I.A
>Animated Moustache arc never
>>166337748
no
t. totally not hag
>>166337471
>that deck is rather bad when going second.
Go ahead and call me an AA0 shitter, but I play aggro shadow almost exclusively and I disagree.
Having an extra evolve and an earlier one lets you push to get them down to 11 health earlier, lets you evo Cerb to get rid of whatever they evolved and you have a third evolve for the extra damage when you Phantom Howl.
Against any deck but aggro blood I prefer going second.
>>166337815
story mode card, like floral fencer and demonic storm
>>166337720
This cost money, the only thing that irl is my Raccon deck and munchkin with normies.
Why is playing Shadow so suffering?
>>166337815
That's from story mode. Just play as Havencraft, you'll get it eventually.
>>166337835
>lazy
fug, I didn't think this out.
>>166336251
This shit gets its shit pushed in by real aggro decks.
>>166337690
it's called "forcibly assigned male at birth", you bigot
>>166337948
It's not nearly as bad as it was in DE with Havens everywhere.
>>166337748
No my man, there are no Seraphs out there trust me.
>>166337987
I'm sorry, I forgot it was 2017
>>166337748
If you're crazy enough to play csword in ladder anything goes.
>>166337748
why would you run odin? he's a 4/3 for 8, that's horrendously understatted.
>>166337948
Yeah such fabulous winrate is really wonderful
>>166337409
Memedecks have a good winrate in this game they just don't perform well in longrun and in tourney.
D-daria never bricks! Y-you're just a shitter!
>>166338078
it's a term from the past years though, i am sure something new will be invented in 2017 too
>>166337948
It's not as bad as it used to be. It's really weird now though.
I'll get like 7-3 wins in AA2 ranked with my aggro shadow on one day, then the next i'm like 6-7 or something, then the day after that it's 7-3 again.
>>166338017
I understood this pun.
>>166338130
nobody says that daria never bricks
basically every deck can brick for fuck's sake
it doesn't always bricks, but it doesn't never brick either
is that such a fucking difficult concept to grasp you retards, christ
>>166338130
yeah 2% of the time is quite a long mathematical ways away from never
>>166338231
What is your aggro list?
>>166338130
What the fuck are you doing
>>166337670
>>166337835
There is already a FAQ in the OP.
>>166337316
Simple Banner, secret is always having Albert in hand
Go full banner in the beginning and sweep the opponent with Albert late game
>>166337409
>Don't get why people got so mad over me
Because you are being insanely ignorant and complaining about shit that you have no right to complain about:
>I can't win with my meme decks
Meme decks aren't supposed to have a high winrate, otherwise they wouldn't be called meme decks.
>I don't can't pull good cards but I refuse to vial my trash cards to make them
This is your choice, you have no right to complain about it.
>OP cards
Levi is an OP card. None of the cards you mentioned as OP in this thread are actually OP.
>specific net decks
You don't know what netdecking is. Playing a known and effective build is not netdecking, stop using that term.
>Maybe next expansion more deck types other than aggro
Literally the only Tier 1 aggro deck is Bats and it's already falling out of Tier 1. Roach is a mirangey combo deck and Daria is a tempo deck that is hard to classify as aggro/midrange/control because they have specific turn spikes based on what they drew and can do well throughout the entirety of the match.
Need a concede 71996
>>166338130
>dorothyshift
Good job, you're playing "just brick my shit up" the deck and complaining about bricking.
>>166338130
>Daria with Fiery embrace and dshift
You must have double the brick chance of normal Daria.
>>166337843
>>166338045
That's a yes, i guess
>>166338108
I play memes on ladder, so...
>>166338118
Seraphs
>>166338349
I looked over it quick.
It doesn't cover the stuff I just answered about story mode. I did speedread it, so maybe I missed it.
>>166336340
http://imgur.com/a/RDYQH
This should be all of them, maybe keep some of the circled ones for meme value or whatever floats your boat.The image is so big I couldnt get it on 4chan sorry.
>>166338415
>>166338420
Is possible to have more than 100% of bricking?
>>166338397
Thanks to whoever helped me
These players don't read the fucking cards
>been floating ~400 points to aa0 trials
>haven't been able to budge once
what deck should I play to finally break through?
>>166328962
It's not that it would kill Seraph. It would kill a lot of alternate playstyles. Rip Earth Rune for example. Bahamut is already bullshit.
>>166338683
Dirt rune obviously.
>>166338293
It's just the standard that you usually see posted here, but I took out my two of my 1-cost followers just because they're ineffectual going 2nd and they're low topdeck value along with a demonic strike and DoD because they're not easy to unload from hand.
Added in goblinmage x3 and another soul conversion.
>>166338580
Holy sentinel, shadowed assasin and deathmist dragon are actually good cards.
>>166338580
>petal fencer
she's not very cute but she's loads of fun desu, I run her in my roach deck because I'm missing some cards and she's won me a few games
solid meme
>>166337254
>Albert
a funny way to spell "ogler":3
>>166336086
>Where is my Satan or Alberts, or Darias or Roaches?
>posts a screenshot with 3 roaches
i don't even
>>166338729
I've been playing ptp dirt rune for a while now..
>rune is 1/3 of the ladder
>keeps growing in popularity every week
So there's no way it won't get nerfed at this point, right? At least if people were abandoning rune, you could argue that the meta is still stabilizing. But when we've had almost a month to figure out other decks that work and people just move back to rune, there's just no argument you could make for why this is okay.
>>166338801
And his next screenshot had 2x Daria
top kek
>>166338709
>Rip Earth Rune for example
What?
What amulets does dirtrune have worth destroying besides juno's which is already on very tenuous footing? Are you that damn worried about not having essences for neet/calamitous?
>>166338893
dude
just revelationthemis it
>>166338893
Rune is a combination of Dshift and Daria.
It's okay for Rune to have 2 viable builds when every other class if lucky to have 1.
>>166338893
They catch 2,000 dollar whales.
I honestly have no idea because of that.
>>166338893
Just themis bro
Which deck is likely to to do better:
Daria with only 2 Darias and 1 Levi
Aggro blood with only 2 Yurius and 1 Vania, and the deck has NO fortress
>>166338786
>>166338798
I marked what I know for sure isn't in any of the top decks right now. Although I will admit my knowledge is limited to rune memes so I don't really know much about the rest.
>>166338893
>3 months laterWe have data to prove that all decks and classes are played at equal amount. No nerfing is necessary. While we are at it, we introduce another Rune variant. Every time you spellboost you deal damage to the opponent's leader!t. Cygames
>>166339056
fortress is outdated
>>166339056
I play a budget aggro blood withno bats except veightand it isn't half bad desu
with daria the lack of levi is probably gonna hurt you real bad, I think
>>166339085
Nah they will just make dirt rune viable and all the aggro decks will commit suicide.
>>166339023
whales don't whale for piercing rune and levi though
>>166339056
what prevents you from crafting third yurius, it's a bronze card, literally 50 vials apiece. you don't need fortresses
also the answer is aggro blood of course
I bricked against a neutral meme deck
>>166338580
Thanks
>>166337643
I have a severe lack of decent legendaries
>>166339056
Aggro blood imo.
Ambling>Wolf>Veight is still an option and incredibly strong.
>>166339056
Aggro blood one.
It will also be cheaper to complete.
>>166339226
Dirt rune is already viable. It isn't T1 like all the other rune decks so it doesn't seem good, but I can assure you if it was a dragon deck, it'd be popular as fuck.
>>166325065
As a seraph player, the only time I want to go first is vs another seraph player. Going first is horrible in this game. It's even worse than in Hearthstone.
>>166339219
>no bats except veight
veight is not a bat!
>>166338893
There is literally nothing wrong with rune being 33% of the ladder
When 70% of ladder plays the same 3 or 4 garbage netdecks, I really really really cannot be bothered to care about the exact distribution of which of those netdecks is the most popular, let the bandwagoners all flock to rune, maybe if this trend keeps up I'll actually feel a sense of pleasant novelty when playing against bats/forest/etc instead of "not this shit again"
>>166339260
that doesn't look like a huge brick to me desu, you have evo turn floral fencer for tempo swing or amelia if they swarm the board, and aurelia should also help keep you stable if necessary
bad hand but not a total brick, you have a 3pp at least
>>166339243
I just think they whale for the deck, in its entirety.
which means the deck and its power would still have to be an object of desire.
>>166339243
I don't want to craft, I just like doing my best with what I pull. I only just realized now though that I was so close to building aggro blood, because I don't have any fortresses.
>>166339219
>>166339329
>>166339378
That's what I thought. I was struggling a lot with Daria lately, and I think it might be because of my deck not being finetuned. Thanks, I'll try aggro blood instead today.
>>166339447
Also, what would you recommend to fill in those last 3 2PP slots? I'm thinking Unica.
>>166339260
You don't have a T2 play and that's a brick. Seriously?
You're really abusing this word a lot /svg/, it will have as much meaning as "troll" soon.
>>166339381
It won't get to 70% because people would rather play a lower winrate deck than end up in mirror matches all the fucking time. Or they just stop playing because it's not fucking fun anymore.
First night in masters and I've already completely memed on two Dshifts in a row.
>>166339589
not sure what decklist you're running but I assume you have blood wolves and razory claws already
consider dark summoner? it's not bad, helps you vengeance up when you need it and has solid stats
>>166339260
Let me show you a real brick
Palate Fencer or Princess Vanguard for ungasword?
>>166333343
JO is t1 deck
>>166339801
Jesus christ how horrifying.
>>166339801
>Avant Blader
I WONDER WHY
>streamer with 1k in twitch
We did it guys
>>166339740
Was stuck between these two, both are the same number away from completion for me, just lacking the Yurius and Vania.
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/aa0-rank-budget-aggro-bloodcraft-34-wins-out-50-matches
More standard list
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/aggro-bloodcraft-tuberculosis-chef-blood
Memier list with no mere duck, gobu, and le carrot man
>>166340164
its good for cycling cards
Sword card draw is terrible, you need to draw some cards eventually
Can someone post an aggro shadow deck? I try using a lich deck but that shit doesn't work unless its daria.
>>166340367
What's the easiest deck to make the enemy leader squeal with?
Face dragon?
>have two queen vampires
>buy blood precon
>almost immediately pull a third
FUCK, THIS IS WHY I NEVER CRAFT ANYTHING, CYGAMES WHY
>>166340473
Daria
>>166340590
Oh boy.
>>166340473
What do you mean by make them squeal? Face dragon isn't very good right now so it might make them squeal with happiness, if that's what you want.
>>166340367
I'm in AA0 doing alright with this one.
I'm considering swapping Bone Chimeras for Skeleton Knights.
There's also that one with Wind God that's been posted quite a bit.
>>166340306
yea, but you have conscription or even goblinmage since goblinmage could pull a maid leader or a unica or some shit. I know those aren't really appealing choices but it's something that doesn't dilute maid pulls and something that isn't pricey in pp. Running multiple avants doesn't seem worth it to me.
>>166340664
What the fuck are you talking about.
Only evolved Daria does 7+ damage in that deck.
Face Dragon has Forte from turn 5.
>>166340721
7+ damage to face.
>>166340590
wait, I thought lewd stuff wasn't allowed on imgur
does that not apply to private images or something
>>166340590
>Captionfags
>>166340473
Make them squeal with any deck you want anon.
You simply have to use our lord and savior, Hamsa.
>>166340772
Reaper.
It doesn't happen every game where he hits the board, but it's if you want to win and occasionally hear squeal
>>166340590
I didn't request this, but thank you anyway. I want Vania to boss me around and tell me how and when to finish.
>>166340367
my img upload is broken
3 goblin 3 skull beast 2 skeleton fighter 1 soul conversion
3 lyrial 3 mummy 3 conjurer 3 reaper
3 rabbit necromancer 3 skeleton knight 1 voices of resentment
3 demonic strike 3 phantom howl
3 dance of death 3 cerberus
H-Here I go with my first pulls
Wish me luck
>>166340918
>Vania
Dubcucks are the worst
>>166341004
nice autism my man, it's even more powerful than mine, I'm impressed
>>166340975
Ganbatte, anon.
>>166340890
> It doesn't happen every game
no thanks
nothing gets me harder than hearing vampy squeal and I want it to happen every match
it's super easy with forte because it doesn't require buffs, setup or anything else
>>166341004
The name is more fitting than just Vampy. And I also like serving someone that has a name so similar to Vanity.
asking for the third time
can i get an aggro sword deck list
>>166340615
>pulled my 3rd skullfane today
whew, almost dodged a bullet, I was about to craft it too.I wasn't
>>166341004
Why don't you start barking at everyone saying Daria instead of Dorothy?
>61 mentions of Daria
>6 mentions of Dorothy
>in this thread alone
Eat shit, you weebhole.
>>166341332
I'll pound your weebhole, fuckboy
>>166340772
Ramp Dragon? Forte, Genesis Dragon and Bahamut rarely, plus Fafnir if you run him.
>>166340734
>Bone Chimeras for Skeleton Knights
As someone who wanted to make Chimera work for the double spookiness I say, yea Skeleton Knight is miles better.
He stands on his own and he still enables reaper. That's all you really need to pick him over Chimera.
>>166341124
>And I also like serving someone that has a name so similar to Vanity.
what
>>166341183
>>166341183
Sometimes i switch cyclone blade for monika
need a concede, please
ID 54388
What's a good deck to beat all the elite AI quickly?
>>166341617
any unga deck
>>166341617
aggrobat
>>166340734
>>166341481
Problem with Chimera is that you are paying 3PP to play a follower with 1 attack.
Other than being reaper fodder, he is just bad except for situations where you need an additional body to take down an aggressive board.
>>166341617
banner desu
>>166341004
Vania is her official name since Rage of Bahamut, though.
>>166341614
ty*hugs*
>>166341562
Why Veteran Lancer instead of Fervid soldier?
>>166341562
that doesn't look very aggro nor good in general
>>166341757
You need at least one ward to protect yourself in case of roach
>>166341183
>>166341729
thank you!
ahhhh *cums*
lol
Young Queen vampire?
>>166341718
>リトルクイーン・ヴァンビ
>>166341757
>>166341878
It's also good against other aggro decks that go slower than you, so they want to trade you out.
t. shadow player
Someone post *that* picture of Unica
>>166341183
here mine
>>166342114
No. Don't lewd my daugtheru.
Cerb in a nep deck is actually not bad at all.
>>166341973
Why would you pretend to be me and then cum on someone?
>>166342231
Delete this.
>>166342231
> still no ゆ、ユニコ、がんばりますっ!
FIX IT DUBKEK CUNT
Does someone have good SV wallpapers?
Preferably with lots of lolis in them.
>>166342476
Some anon in these threads was making them about a month ago. There are 4 in total.
>>166342476
>>166342476
>>166342114
>>166342231
delete these immediately
>>166342584
>1024x615
>wallpaper
for a phone, maybe
>>166341481
why wouldn't you pick angel of the word or even gobu over skeleton knight though
>>166342231
If you got banned for posting this, I'm sorry for requesting you to post it in the first place. Moderation has strangely become simultaneously strict and inconsistent. When this image was originally posted, it didn't get deleted.
Again, sorry.
>>166341124
uncle vanya :3 i knew he was a vampire
also vampy is a good girl, she is not vain
>>166342231
>[Deleted]
>The image was never in our databases.
Goddamnit.
>>166342821
I hope he gets banned FOR LIFE
>>166342546
>>166342584
>>166342592
Thanks for these.
>>166342181
>>166341521
Why Amelia over something faster like 3-drop fencer?
>>166342615
wtf if you mean a pic where she is about to dance it's completely sfw, she is dressed like on a beach there
these boards have rules after all, stop complaining of the stuff which don't violate them
>>166342821
was the post deleted by a janny? if it was i would complain to the admins
>>166342821
I just deleted it after waiting a bit. I didn't want to risk anything.
You did nothing wrong anon.
19571
Can I have a non concede win please?
>>166342860
Let's see if posting links is still ok.
https://my.mixtape.moe/uctsbd.png
Seriously, some years ago, moderation said it was ok to post links on blue boards. What the fuck is going on lately?
>>166343139
gook moot happened
I don't know why you're so surprised. It is a chocolate mimic.
>>166343139
DELET
>>166323968
Me on the right
>>166343005
That's good to hear.
>>166343057
Thank you very much!
Any conjuring force deck list?
>>166324092
>>166342668
I do run gobu, and I like skeleton knight for reaper shenanigans and the fact he's a sticky follower.
a 1/1 doesn't seem like a big deal until it trades into something or carries a puppers buff.
>>166326375
Is this actually a good Dirt rune list? I want to try it...
>>166342413
here
also now featuring breadhttps://my.mixtape.moe/qsbctp.png
>dimension shift is top t-
>>166343532
perfect
thank you
>>166343609
Said no one ever since RoB
>>166343532
please delete this
Almost got out meme'd.
>>166343609
Nothing brings me more happiness than the hopes that this deck stays in the rearview mirror.
Good night bloodkins.
>>166343891
sleep tite
>>166343675
the last tier list I saw had it there
Do you miss d-shift?
>run out of bahamuts and odins to deal with the flood of 13/13s, never draw any of my calls of cocytus at all
>then he drops commander laura and soul dealer
what a terrible way to go
Neither of us evolved until the very end of the game because cblood vs cblood matchup.
>tfw not a single Cerberus
Man, I really dont want to have to reroll but its looking like I'll have to
>>166344013
Hell no
>>166344093
You could buy her.
>>166344093
>tfw been playing for months and still not a single Cerb
Shadow is the only class I don't have at level 100.
>>166343532
I just want to let you know I fixed your image by moving the が to the beginning of the sentence, also by correcting the ま because it looks like ほ
>>166344013
I faced 4 d-shifts earlier today while playing seraph so no, not at all.
>>166344093
Buy her. Alt art is better and she's animated.
>>166344005
that tier list was garbage then.
>>166344013
lol no
>crimson sorcery costs 1
>thorn burst costs 2
you literally can't defend this
>>166344060
You should always be humbled when you lose to a memelord running Soul Dealer.
>>166344340
Agree, Thorn Burst should be 1pp then people would actually take Rose Queen.
Who is the cutest leader and when is it Luna?
>>166344060
Need a concede senpai
37265
>tfw all your waifu cards are useless
>>166344573
Because she is best girl fellow shadowbro.
>>166344573
Luna is cute.
CUTE!
>>166344573
>when
Right about now.
>>166344013
i still play it
>>166344573
>when is it Luna?
Never, because Arisa will always be the cutest.
>>166344573
>when
I meant why, when would be "always". I swear I reread that like 10 times before posting.
>>166344636
Thanks Akeshi
>>166344134
fuck offf kike
>>166344573
>mfw I changed to Shadow and immediately bought Skelebro
>>166344340
>>166344507
I'd be more than down for this change, might finally motivate people to make a Forest deck that isn't just PtP and/or Roach combos.Y'know, like White Wolf was supposed to do, except it didn't because it's not good enough
Who is the purest cardfu?It's not urd, she is a slut who destroys people
What card are you supposed to use Sahaquiel on? I tried it with Gabriel and it turns out she doesn't activate fanfare effects.
>>166344697
shoo, get out pesky knife-ears
this thread belongs to Luna now.
>>166344819
Mordecai is the second cutest leader, right behind Luna.
>>166344879
I use saha with gilgamesh and lucifer
>>166344879
Lucifer, end of turn effects work. Sahaquiel + Lucifer is a 4/4 that destroys a target and restores 4 health, for 7.
If you're a memer, Sahaquiel + Gilgamesh is a 4/4 + 5 storm damage for 7.
>>166344879
Lucifer and Bahamut mostly
is this good enough for control?
>>166344886
Don't like elf?
Kill yourself.
>>166344340
cygames had no idea what they were doing when they first designed Forest
They have (had) a lot of retardedly broken bullshit cards like Harvest Festival and Homecoming, and a lot of useless cards like...80% of the craft.
I'm seeing a lot of seraph hate in this thread, but may I remind you that Dshift still exists. It wins on tin 8 instead of 9 and can't be prevented with Odin etc.
>>166344917
>>166344941
>>166344959
It seems really risky to run a card as expensive as Sahaquiel in the hope that it'll be in your hand at the same time as another expensive card.
>>166345036
You will autolose to seraph without odin.
Budget control swords aren't that good.
>>166345079
>It wins on tin 8 instead of 9
they can dshift on turn 7 with perfect draws afaik
>>166345047
geez cool it tree-hunger
Arisa is fine, she does pales in comparison to Luna however.
>>166345092
Sahaquiel dragon is a thing. A little bit brick city but it's strong.
>>166345036
>Vials in the Sky
Remove that trash.
I'M COMING
I'M COMING
I'M COMING
I'M COMING
I'M COMING
FOR YOUUUUUU
FOR YOUUUUUU
>>166345167
someone figured out that if you got the perfect (as in you picked out the cards and the order they came in) setup, it's online by turn 6.
>>166344696
Dont you get outaggro'd?
>>166344867
If by 'pure' you mean 'pure sex', which is what you should mean
>>166345215
This, the ramping makes it viable since if you fail to draw Saha you can just play her targets instead and avoid bricking too badly. Obviously it's a bit top-heavy curve-wise, but every Ramp Dragon deck is, so it's not that bad.
At least, it seems to work well enough the few times I've been matched against it. Haven't played the deck myself though, so I could be wrong.
>>166345272
I always try to figure out some other way to get lethal, even if it comes off as BM.
Dragging is hard.
>>166345173
>Pales
Then why she always become the cover girl for promotion material?
50019 concede please
>>166345173
Ok. Ghost believer.
Luna is fine, only because she let's me play the real best shadow girl, cerby.
>>166345338
well i only play it in unranked so if i see im up against an unga deck i just concede
>>166345272
>dubcuck
kys
>>166345272
Given how much they're coming, I wish ghost-chan was sexier
>>166345036
You need two tsubakis
Remove monika, charlotte, memes in the sky and healing angel
Add one more aurelia
Only 2 cyclone blades are needed
Consider adding duck and removing alexander (Duck + cyclone blade are ten times better than him, so, just use what you think it suits you better)
at last, put two odins if you dont want to get seraph'd
>>166345459
Because Nippon and normies need a way to avoid being outed as a lolicon.
i wish i couldtutorall the ESL posters
>>166345475
thanks
>>166345036
You want one less Cyclone and Swing.
I'm not too surea bout Charlotte and Fencer, either, but I've never tried them in Control.
Honestly, you have 2 4 drops. That's fucking awful for going second, stick some Floral Fencers in there, they're still good for establishing board presence on first evo turns. Consider Unica, too.
Like someone said, Castle is putrid trash.
>>166345630
It's hopeless, i'm a shitty student.
best you can hope for is me saying daijabou and neko
>>166345630
Why is that?
>>166345759
because they'recute
>>166345747
i think you may be confusing esl with eop my dude
>>166345759
Teaching is fun! Satisfying! Helps you yourself learn!
>>166345830
shoot yourself
can someone convince me to like cerb
like her effects and everything is fine, great even, but I just can't stand her voice and her lines, ditto for her spells
she's the most obnoxious card to me but I really really want to play shadow and run her
>t7 Bahamut
Dragon can do some scary things sometimes. Too bad I had lethal roach in my hand.
I feel bad bullying dragonfriends.
Where do I go to discuss Eternal? I don't have a reddit account
>>166346072
>dub
Why are 1.4k people watching that korean guy?
>>166346072
dumb dub cuck
Can I safely vial Soul Dealer?
>tfw turn 4 Feena on curve due to Dragon Emissary
>>166346072
She used to be a center head who couldn't control both puppet heads to the point that they would rather wrestle authority from her.
An encounter with a special someone made her grow a spine and put those two in their place. That's how we have cerberus of today.
>>166346072
You get to have pupper puppets.
>>166345036
This is a list I want to try when I hit Master. I'd want to add 2x Odin maybe but I don't want to get rid of anything in this list.
>>166346514
Who broke this poor girl's legs?
>>166345061
the problem with most forest cards is that the combo mechanic basically adds 2pp to the cost of everything which makes them too slow to be useful. if fairies always cost 0 but were harder to get it would be a lot more fun.
>>166346072
you can cheat on her with her hand puppets
>tournament literally impossible to watch due to turbo autistic caster
>>166346514
that's kinda moe and is kinda convincing, actually...
>>166346660
>having a monogamous wife
>current_year
>>166346828
I was just thinking the same. What a shame.
Is this worth keeping?
>playing dirt rune
>having fun fighting over the board
>suddenly 3 straight games against dshit and seraph
>they just jack off spamming their broken removal and waiting for their "I win" button
>0 gameplay, they happened to not brick so I autolose
By far the shittiest part of this game are those two blatantly broken decks. What kind of jackass game designer thinks that level of solitaire is ok?
>>166346987
He's not even worthy of memes. Instant vial.
>>166346987
Skullfane is gutter trash tier.
>>166346828
>>166346968
sound off my peoples
listen to music or podcasts.
>>166346514
is the (You) of GBF also the (You) of RoB?
Or are you cucking yourself, kinda like how Tamamo from Fate tells your f/go persona that she loves (You) but she loves the fate/extra (You) more
>>166347025
>Dirt Rune losing against Seraph
Whatever you say that makes you happy.
>>166346987
Eidolon of Memes, memes harder than him so he's trash now
>>166346828
Speaking of, /svg/ tourney when?
>>166347240
There wasn't enough interest before.
not to mention the salt when people bring daria.
Is there any use for Imperial Dragoon? It seems to be a Discard Dragon card, but it's very expensive and most Discard Dragon relies on Wildfang + Altered Fate anyway. Can I safely liquefy it?
>>166347025
>Dirt Rune
>Losing to Seraph
Did you not draw your Petrification's or something?
>>166347025
>What is Petrification?
>>166347171
>just draw banish bro XD
>>166347334
>Did you not draw your Petrification's or something?
Yes.
>>166347330
I think it's like your finisher/lategame, don't liquefy it unless you really need the vials. It'd probably fit well in some other dragon archetypes too, imo.
>>166347447
It's a 9pp 5/5 follower if you ignore the fact that it discards your hand, doesn't sound too useful in non-discard decks desu.
Can I get a concede please
11227
>>166347357
which is why dirt runs petrifies AND odins
>>166345630
People who enjoy teaching are cute.
>>166347330
Don't liquefy. Discard dragon will be tier 0 next expansion
>>166347312
>There wasn't enough interest before.
Every time I've seen them come up, they filled up. The problem was usually management or people changing their minds and withdrawing.
85405 concede pls
>>166347507
Thanks mang
>>166347447
>I think it's like your finisher/lategame
for discard dragon, which is shit tier
>>166347561
tier 0 because it won't exist
>>166347561
Every time I look at Rowen's face all I see is suffering
>>166347330
>most Discard Dragon relies on Wildfang + Altered Fate
That's a completely different deck. There is Wildfang Combo Dragon and there is Discard Dragon. They don't play the same or use the same cards. They are both terrible decks, though.
Pure Discard is bound to receive more support in the future, so keep that in mind when vialing Dragoon.
>>166347593
Thank you anon
>>166347501
Some Ramp lists use one to combo out with Bahamut.
>>166347561
I can't take Rowen seriously at all. A little girl with dead parents is more believable than a guy named Rowen Dragspear who's secretly a dragon and says "What a drag!"
How do we fix Havencraft?
>>166348048
delete it from the game
>>166348041
>says "What a drag!"
Does he really? I don't remember or can't recall when he does.
>>166348048
You usually start with identifying any problems.
>there are none
Great job anon!
>>166348041
>Doesn't say 'What a Dragspear!"
79216
trade concede pls
Is Control Sword good right now?
>>166348048
More followers that subtract from amulets
>>166348314
thank you very much!
>>166340975
>>166341107
http://imgur.com/a/djB6E
Did I do good?Took a while to upload stuff my Internet is being an asshole today
>>166348156
He's asking about Haven, not Rune.
>>166348524
Just post your leggos and gold seperately, bronze and silver doesn't matter.
Oh my
>>166348421
Ehh... kind of
>>166348524
You're well on your way to a full Daria deck.
Find Levi, cram damage and draw spells, followers whose pp gets reduced on spellboost except for flame destroyer.
Put it all into the blender, and you got your deck.
>>166348524
2x Daria is great for Tempo Rune
1x Seraph is good for Seraph Haven
>>166348637
What's the optimal build?
I see a list with 3x Bahamut 3x Odin, seems a little over the top.
Please give an input.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12176948
>>166347501
a 9pp 5/5 follower that deals a bunch of damage to everything
>>166347628
yeah, but if they brought up discard dragon they probably care about it even if it's shit
>>166348897
honestly fine with either, both sides have reasonable explanations
Dariabricks
>>166348610
I don't know shit yet, bear with me
>>166348743
>>166348736
So that was a nice start I assume, I'll keep playing story modes for now, I'll just make a random deck with whatever I have to start getting the hang of the rules and stuff
What should I do next though? get gold and buy one of the preset decks?
Do I get more tickets later?
focus in missions I can do?
>>166349178
Nice meme
>>166349178
Nicememe
>>166349330
"Too slow!"
>>166349372
>>166349276
>>166349330;^)
>>166348843
>3x Bahamut 3x Odin
lol
Some Nip Runefag just passed on lethal so he could jerk himself off with Daria the next turn.
Denied that shit before he played a single card.
>>166349223
Well the prebuilts cost REAL LIFE money.
but usually after story mode with all the crafts you want to try out take 2 (after looking up information on how to draft/play take 2)
It's cost efficient and a good way to build up your collection due to the gold efficiency, given you go on an average of 2.7 out of 5 wins.
How do we kill Erika?
why don't they just print a neutral 2/3 that extends an amulet countdown by 1
cockblock haven slightly, extend dire bond, extend juno's, etc etc
>>166349629
By introducing a deck that chokes out midrange and not give it to sword. After that, we introduce a deck that chokes out aggro, and don't give it to sword.
>>166349538
Oh yeah there's both gold and crystal currency, my bad didn't notice at first
>>166349538
Building on this, you should watch someone stream themselves playing Arena so you won't get completely crushed by more experienced players.
Use the Take 2 guide posted in the OP.
>>166349493
I had a similar thing happen to me in Take Two. But I think my guy was just retarded and didn't realize he had the win.
Flame&Glass viable when?
>When you have a Howl on hand and get Cerb on turn 5
Dumb Daria player didn't even know his fate was sealed two turns ago.
>>166348048
Still doing fine with a half-storm Haruda. I'd go full storm but then it gets fucked by all the follower removal nowadays.
>>166349685
Let's introduce a spell Yurius too so Rune can kill themselves.
>>166329205
>Also pretty sure I faced you on the ladder a couple times o.o
Fuck god, look at this. Its been a couple of times already unironically from multiple persons and avatarfags. Then I am wrong when I talk about the unrealistic massive number of underages and circlekerks parrots fucking up anything likeable, especially /jp/ and /a/ content. It's no wonder /a/ is on its official dead for the 990th time, but no dogs are involved this time. Just shut it down hiro
>>166349783
Smell their butt for long enough and they'll be made viable
>>166349858
>half storm
With the valhallan and lion?
>>166349783
>he doesn't play 2glass1flame in every deck
>>166349983
>>166349983
>>166349983
new thread
>>166349783
d shift
>>166349629
lmao
m
a
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>>166349685
>extend Dire Bond
you have my attention
>>166350048
Post list bro
>>166350364
jap meta control sword
basically this:
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/jcg-open-vol48-1st-place-deck-control-swordcraft
>>166350470
Nice
>>166350534
I switched out the 3 Novice Troopers for 2 Blitz Lancers because they're better for board clearing and 1 White Paladin for extra wards since I've been matching against a lot of aggro decks lately.
>>166350470
qt maid that can heal face in sword when?in before anti-sword autists swoop down on this post
>>166350470
What's the verdict on Floral Fencer? I thought she was no longer a 3 of when you run stuff like Monika and Amelia.
I'm trying to make something like >>166350470
but i've dusted everything I'm willing to and am using stuff from my pre-bahamut control deck to fill out the gaps, can I get any advice in the meantime while I work towards some odins? Is otomeme not as strong as she used to be? I've only played this in unranked because i'm scared until I test things to an extreme to play ranked.
Also, Cyclone blade the turn after bahamut is played while your opponent scrambles to fill the board is fucking amazing.