/wfg/ - Warframe General

nyx is best waiframe

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>>166035649
Seconding

Pistol Riven Mod from daily, bets on what it is?

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>>165982265
>The Nova premium skin will never come to PS4

>nullifiers needing a sweet spot
Can people really be this bad?

>>166035768
>criticises tom for not having a DPS based list
>makes his own list
>doesnt have dps numbers
>wants the person looking at the list to do all the dps research
>is less than 20% as comprehensive as topgun
>superior
2/10 shitpost

>>166035883
All they needed to do was finally release the miter aug, but they decided to do this shit instead. Still mad, now the miter will be forever useless.

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>NEVER EVER

>Have to scan fragments to gain access to Phobos
>Been exploring every level fully but not a single fragment in 10+ missions

Shit game.

>>166035473
>>166035428
>>166035392
the most I would pay for any other riven is like, 50p normally, but I'll be damned if I ever find a fucking zarr riven as good as this. The Zarr is the best fucking gun.

plus I got 4k plat from the 75% off coupon I had, so it's not like I worked hard for the plat.

but yeah, I did jew myself pretty hard.
>>166035772
cestra with -recoil, +reload, +slash, and -damage to grineer.

>>166036092

Git gud

>>166036048
good
it was trash before the hobbit edit, never improved

>>166035985
it's actually based on damage and performance though. Numbers aren't shown because there's too much clutter, and you can easily calculate the numbers yourself on wfbuilder, and there's a certain degree of variability in builds such as punchthrough or the Tigris builds.

>>166036287
>Numbers aren't shown because there's too much clutter
bullshit. youre lazy and just want to draw attention away from the topgun list

>>166036092
Animal Instinct

>>166035772
Single Magnus

>>166036048
The right side of her body looks like something out of KLK

>>166035883
>not wanting a Tonkor/shotgun buff

The weak point will be hidden in level geometry half the time anyway

>>166036384
feel free to test them yourself. Each of the rifles in the pic has >20k DPS using good builds. Shotguns blow past it. The comparison of V.Hek vs. Hek is similarly based on DPS numbers, you can check for yourself.

>>166036525

I don't see the problem here.

Unless you're complaining that it doesn't look enough like Satsuki, in which case that's fair.

>>166036525
It is reminiscent of burning. The dark side look like the light was burnt up and is flaking off.

>>166036525
I enjoyed my first watch of KLK and then just recently rewatched the first couple of episodes again and realized how shit it was.

>>166036626
>20k dps
nigga i hope you joking

i bet i get the braton mk1 to 20k dps

>>166036626
>AOE is good
>the only shotgun with percentage health scaling AOE is bad
:^)

I have a problem with the purge precept, do I make a ticket, or do I just wait?
The game is stuck where ordis tires to murder me.
No timer, no opening door, nothing but ordis killing me over and over again while tormenting me with futuristic tai chi music.

>>166036626
reasons to use topgun:
-suggestions for good weapons, including primary, melee, archwang, melee
-suggestions for fun weapons

reasons for using tqs weapon list:
-suggestions for good weapons, but only primary
-a suggestion to go to WFbuilder if you want dps numbers

>superior

>>166036753
he doesnt actually know DPS numbers, its just a buzzword for him just like "objetively"

>>166036747

It doesn't come into it's own as a show until episode 7, imo. I wanted to drop it before I watched that far, but after that I started appreciating the way the subverted and poked fun at a lot of the tropes in those first episodes.

It also has the best "recap" episode of any anime I've ever seen

>>166035278

Dash Polarity for Corrosive Projection is a pretty good idea, because you can run Energy Siphon solo if you like.

I can definitely see the logic behind Rage/QT but what I found with enough power strength was that the energy income on it wasn't enough to be worth it especially now that Zenurik is a thing. I went with extra duration and strength instead: http://warframe-builder.com/Warframes/Builder/Chroma/t_30_3244022430_2-7-10-6-4-5-12-5-10-13-0-3-19-3-10-34-8-5-49-2-10-411-6-10-479-1-10-615-9-5_13-7-479-7-49-8-19-7-6-11-12-8-411-8-2-6-34-14-615-9_0/en/1-0-34

What I try to do is cast Vex Armour or Elemental Ward, wait ~30 seconds, and then cast the other so that I always have the energy to refresh and if anything does go wrong I have coverage from at least one survivability skill. Up to you how much you want to invest in Chroma though, and what works for me may not work for you.

>memeing strike doesn't work with Landslide anymore
Fuck.

>>166036805
Try going left?

its the best part of the quest anyway, fuck you DE for this Lost bullshit

>>166036805
Thanks for the spoiler

>>166036973
F
doesnt work with redeemer anymore either

>>166036753
nope. MAYBE if you use absolutely garbage builds like VA and Bane mods, but even then I highly doubt it.

>>166036848
weapon guides should be based on performance, of which DPS/TTK is a huge factor in.

>>166037029
like, I can move, but the shit door won't open
no timer REEEEEE

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>>166036159
>>166036478
It's much worse.

>>166033183
Ack and Brunt needs to have Final Harbinger next to it's name, there's no point to using it without it.

>>166037149
>weapon guides should be based on performance
funny, i thought you didnt use DPS and TTKs on your list
i repeat, 2/10

>>166035629

Endo replaced Fusion Cores a while ago, and you can melt mods down for Endo as well. The long and the short of it is that it takes less Endo to max things out than the old equivalent in fusion cores, but the credit cost went up.

>>166036753

Easily. I have a Riven that pushes it past that.

>>166036805

Sounds like support time, yeah.

>>166037181
At least Seer has some hidden fanbase and dump stats.

>>166037245
But I do. Are you even literate? Rifles are almost entirely based on DPS numbers because they're very simple weapons. Shotguns are more difficult to calculate because of damage fall-off and spread, but still based on DPS. In fact, the only weapons NOT based solely on calculated DPS are Tigris P and the launchers, which have several factors that cause warframe builder to be a poor indication of damage.

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have any of you farmed for the John Prodman autograph yet?

>>166037149
then dont say 20k dps for fucks sake. my soma build was around 40k i think

also, add the highest DPS you can get with the weapon next to it. if you dont know it, why is the weapon on the list? or is it a FEELING?

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>>166037728
The best part is that Prodman himself is super weak when compared to the other enemies in the index.

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>>166037226
ill put it on the fun part, but ack and brunt is crit capable without the stance

>>166037689
>Shotguns are more difficult
go to warframe builder friend, you can even use snipping tool to copy paste them onto the list

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>>166037728
>tfw when people only have one poster

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>>166037747
The guide specifically says AT LEAST 20k dps for rifles. "Highest DPS possible" isn't included because the highest calculatable DPS uses mods like VA and Bane mods, which are worthless. Weapons guides are ultimately based on performance, of which DPS forms a significant but not entire portion.

Anyway, repostan the superior top gun list.

>inb4 people say it's too short
It's an example of what a weapons list SHOULD be. Based on DPS/TTK/performance, with explanations of more complex weapon builds/mechanics. I don't have the time or will to actually make a comprehensive list.

A weapons chart should NOT be a random assortment of weapons thrown together with no criteria or explanation.

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>MR5 Volt
>literally never jumps, just walks everywhere
>took nearly 11 minutes to do a basic fucking mobile defense because he'd grab the data thing and walk around

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When are we expecting ansnnouncement for the next Prime access and Unvaulting?

>>166037946
shotguns have spread and fall-off, which are not taken into account in wfbuilder and significantly inflate its damage numbers. But to be fair to wfbuilder, I don't think the gottfaust calculator takes that into account either

>>166038180
>no criteria or explanation
>not reading the thing you are criticizing
wew lad, your going for gold
come back when you do

The aids chair just called my cripple kid a demon when I went in with the kid
>(The demon is awake? How?)
How do I eject this piece of shit out of my ship

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you think this will be enough for a bug ticket?

>>166038304
about a month.

>Aiding Grineer on the blueprint invasion
>Last mission about to extract
>Suddenly Zanzuka
>As soon as it spawn, a Grineer Heavy Gunner just ground pounds and puts the mutt down

Are the Jews even trying?

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>>166038420
>it's a "muh vague, generalized disclaimer allows me to completely ignore the fundamentals of making any sort of objective guide" episode

>>166038180
>no time to test
>time to post the same thing over and over on 4chan under continuous criticism without adding good suggestions

Bugger off

>>166038494
If i read your ticket id ask for a recording just to laugh at the situation

>>166038446
I agree with the aids chair. Remove demon taters.

>>166038724
I've made multiple suggestions to the topgun guide. FFS the entire fucking picture is a suggestion on HOW to make a weapons guide

>>166038660
Can you get me that md5 image hash
Please and thx

whats the fastest way to kill 60 seekers?

>>166037946
Thanks for powering through with your superior list.

Final Harbinger legitimately makes the SilvaAegis usable, it's way way way better than eleventh. It's like comparing Crimson Dervish to the pointed bird stance or whatever.

probably with a gun

>>166038842
Seek bears

>>166038842
Seek them out.

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>>166038829
you're kidding right?
literally two clicks do it yourself

>>166038842
There's a certain level range where seekers start spawning in Grineer missions, might be the lvl 15-17 survival on Mars off the top of my head.

Google Site:reddit com/r/Warframe seekers, if that doesn't work inaros quest.

Don't know if the wiki has any useful suggestions

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>>166038446
>not making the chair fear you

Cuck.

>>166039036
>expecting filterfags to have an ounce of intelligence

is anyone planning on going to tennocon and trolling TQ's new weapon list? I feel like he's making it pretty easy to get a twofer by trashing rivens somehow at the same time

>>166038660
>>166038180
yes, it is
there is one mention of an acutal DPS number here

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>>166038180

>my numbers and opinions are relevant
>nobody else's opinions or numbers are relevant
>i'm always right about everything, because i am the professor

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>>166035548

>>166039391
That's the thing. The topgun chart isn't based on numbers AT ALL

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>>166039440

Is this good?
http://warframe-builder.com/Warframes/Builder/Chroma/t_30_2400242220_2-2-10-3-8-5-6-3-5-12-4-10-19-1-10-49-5-10-411-6-10-479-7-10-615-9-5-726-0-5_726-8-19-7-2-12-6-11-12-8-49-8-411-8-479-7-3-18-615-9_0/en/1-0-34/

I know I should really forma the aura slot but I mostly play solo and with this damage multiplier I could probably kill level 130 heavies with a mk-1 furis

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Shitters, please. The tonkor is the best weapon in the game.
>b-but I killed a lvl 1 lancer with my lanka!!!!!
Your opinion literally does not matter

>>166039581
Shoulda waited for 6666

>>166039643
>posting an oldass screenshot with your image
>lame bait
>expecting shitters to post here, the haven of the #1 clan in warframe
hmm it really thermal drills my vault

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where do I find a large mass of Seekers to crush into a katamari for the king of the cosmos

>>166039749
[DLC intensifies]

>>166039580

A: It doesn't claim to be. Just a list of weapons that are good enough to be viable for high-level stuff. Not that it means much any way, thanks to enemy level scaling eventually the only thing that will kill is a Covert Lethality dagger on a target open for finishers, and
B: You're still a moron who refuses to listen to what other people say.

Go on, squid-man. Dump your ink of doctored images and try to derail the thread before the predators can hone in on your arguments. It's your only trick, because the stuff you say has no merit at all.

>>166039580
it's almost as if it even SAYS that on the chart you illiterate queer

>>166039749
How has the tonkor changed since then? it didn't
How have arcane boilers changed since then? they didn't
The same numbers back then are done now. Ok I'm basically lying about this, the numbers would be even higher now because of bladed rounds.

You can go back to redd*t any time and post your """"good weapon"""" list all day long for that redd*t gold. Because you sure as hell won't be getting a 4chan pass at this pace.

>>166039818
[buh nah, buh nah ne nah nah nuh neh nuh nah neh nah nah naaaaaah]

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>>166039639

You can't really go wrong with stacking power strength on a Chroma.

I'd suggest not going for the Energy Conversion though, and using that slot for something that will work all the time. I use it more for Channeled builds or on Nekros, YMMV.

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>>166039935
>>166040040
>Just a list of weapons that are good enough to be viable for high-level stuff

It's like you retards have no clue what I'm actually fucking criticizing, and why that shitty disclaimer is meaningless:

THE WEAPONS CHART NEEDS TO HAVE SOME SORT OF CRITERIA. THE TERMS "GOOD" AND "VIABLE" ARE MEANINGLESS IF YOU DON'T DEFINE THEM. YOU CANNOT JUST THROW WEAPONS TOGETHER AND CALL THEM "GOOD" WITHOUT SAYING WHY.

>>166040080
Actually, DE finally nerfed AOE getting the headshot bonus while hitting anywhere. This is different from the "doesn't count as headshots for challenge" nerf but it affected Tonkor and a lot of other weapons.

Now you actually have to hit heads/weak points

>>166040237
A weapon is good because it deals more damage than the other weapons in its class.

>>166040339
That changed the point...how? You can still get headshots with tonkor and boilers still have a head to headshot onto along with every other enemy in the game except for the sentients.

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>>166040383
except the topgun list doesn't utilize damage at all in its comparisons. Straight from the creator's mouth

>>166040237

It's almost as though everyone else is capable of understanding "Good" and "Viable" means that with the right mods and enough Forma those are the ones that can be taken far into post-DEAC.

>buh buh there's no dps!
>or TTK!

Doesn't need to be. Anything with ~20K DPS is fine.

>>166040383
Some might have more utility though, which pairs well with a weapon that has tons of power.

>>166040080
>addresses one thing
>baits with another
holy shit Overkill really want to sell me that new safe.

>>166040237
>new player: man I need a sniper for this Sortie. Oh look a list of good snipers.
>I want a new primary, I tried the Tonkor and it was cool so what else can I use
>I want something fun

Perhaps we need a comprehensive tier list for weapons, digested also for Riven disposition and ideal rolls

Or there's a beginner friendly list here

>>166040602
>invalidates the damage numbers because of """"outdated screenshot""""
>get btfo by facts
>claim bait

k

>>166040703
I'm not buying Michael Myers Overkill.

>>166040487

It's not a list of weapons stratified by tiers.

It's a list of weapons that are worth taking into DEAC.

This is stated directly on the image and has been said over and over by TG.

That the list doesn't do what you want it to and suggests people use weapons you think don't fit the meta because >muh dps has literally no bearing on the matter.

>>166040487
Maybe he actually plays the game. All suggested weapons have viable damage/dps for their class of weapons anyway.

its not a dps chart it's a top gun chart :^)

never fry a ball, eat Rice Crispies and Life cereal. Shit looks like I am eating maggots on life boats...

What terrible disappointments can we expect during the next lie stream?

>focus rework
>Helminath Charger done properly
>fucking john prodman jokes because hahaha it's a meme that is in the game!

Nothing to do right now.

>>166040851

>lie stream

Best typo ever? Most accurate typo ever? Both?

>>166040526
"Good" and "viable" are meaningless if you don't attach criteria to them. And you even fucking said that anything with ~20k DPS is fine, while the topgun chart COMPLETELY IGNORES DPS. Why you're defending that piece of shit is beyond me, when you clearly realize how flawed it is.

>>166040621
>oh man I need a weapon to build towards, wow I like bows and snipers, I think they look cool I think I'll use them instead of Tonkor since they all seem equal according to the chart.
>oh man I want a sweet pair of dual pistols, hm...should I make telos akboltos or Akstilleto prime? The chart says they're both good, better make the Akboltos!

>>166040851
Fuck you I like John.

>>166040937
How new are you

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HOW THE FUCK DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER

>>166040818
>All suggested weapons have viable damage/dps for their class of weapons anyway
wrong. Braton/Burston do not. Neither does Teloks Akboltos or Akmagnus. And shit like Javlok/Opticor used to be on there.

>>166040804
see >>166040237
you are not understanding my point AT ALL

>>166041003

Less than a month. I had no idea it was a thing, hadn't seen it before.

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>>166041016
be kind of dumb if people couldn't easily contact you, considering you are a mercenary

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>>166041183
>been in every OP since beta
>never seen it before

Lying isn't nice anon

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>>166040973
>I'll take "Forced Memes" for 500 Alex

>>166041223
>defending lotus giving out your number to grineer,infested, and corpus

>>166040957
are you being retarded on purpose? good and viable mean just that, good enough to do most content with enough investment. IT EVEN SAYS THE WEAPONS LISTED AREN'T FLAVOR OF THE MONTH TRYHARD GUNS YOU ILLITERATE SAVAGE

>>166040957

>make
>telos akboltos

TQ, everybody.

All of the weapons on that chart are the best in their respective classes. It's not like he's listed the basic Sicarus as NUMBER ONE GUN OF ALL TIME or some shit.

And you're forgetting that for MR grind people are going to need to run through everything at least once any way. It at least gives them an idea of what to aim for as they progress.

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>vampire mode nightmare node as chroma
They do not know what they have done.

What do I buy with all my jew platinum?
None of the current deluxe skins interest me any more because I appreciate the default look of the frames too much, I already have the saturated color pallette.

>>166041286

I mentally edit most typos as I read them, especially stuff I just scroll past like OPs.

>>166041538

>What do I buy with all my jew platinum?

Rivens. Or gift noobs. Or Arcanes.

>tfw put lens into melee weapon
might as well just go kill myself

>>166041710
It's such a hassle to shop for rivens, everyone tries to charge literal thousands for their trash because they don't understand the system.

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updated the SUPERIOR WEAPONS CHART, included dual pistols AkSomati and AkStilletos along with a comparison. Reminder that semiautos like Teloks Akboltos and AkMagnus suck.

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>>166041468
>mfw I do nightmare missions only to get rid of specters
I-I'm sorry Clem, you'll be free I promise

>>166041742
youre supposed to do that
with just melee and and frame lense'd you get full and a shitload of focus with stealth finishers

>>166041742

Use it for stealth exterminates, or take it on Sorties and let it leech affinity.

>>166041410
>>166041450
but WHY is the gun good? why is it viable? what makes it better than anything else in its class?

Nothing is defined. No criteria is laid out. That's literally my entire fucking point. How can you fucking retards be this fucking illiterate?

>>166041986
Normal people can judge if a gun is useful for high level content without needing to go through rigid criteria like an autist, TQ.

>>166041986
Its good because he used it once in mercury and it killed things fast you retarded mongoloid

>>166041879
>Aksomati's
>no marecock

list disregard, as someone who loved the askomati's deeply before the akstiletto primes came.

>>166042132
but how do you know if a gun is useful for high levels? If it...deals damage? If it...kills things fast?

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>>166039223
I want to fug my warframe on that chair.

>>166042209
it's only dual pistols

>>166042248
Between sustained DPS, burst DPS, punchthrough, spread, aoe, and ammo efficiency, there's too many factors to boil it down to a mathematical formula.

Thinking everything CAN be boiled down to mathematics is a common trait of autism, by the way.

>>166042336
Do you really want to get 3 tentacles injected into your ass while you're doing that? Its not worth it man

>>166042336
Helminth'll be fugging you both while that happens.

>>166041986
didn't you make a shitty image version of your godforsaken frame tiers that has exactly as much actual information written out on it? or i guess less since you have an icon for "niche" which is an even more meaningless term than "viable" without context.
>but muh guide says
shut the fuck up the weapon image is better than your shit image and no one likes your pastebin or your goalpost shifting garbage.

>>166042420
>>166042424
>implying thats not exactly what he wants

>>166042419
Agreed, but damage is often the single most important characteristic.

In any case, you are working under the assumption that there DOES need to be criteria. My criticism of the topgun list is that it has ZERO criteria.

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>>166042424
>>166042420
anons please I can only get so erect

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>>166041879

>Reminder that semiautos like Teloks Akboltos and AkMagnus suck.
>It's a TQ doesn't understand how to mod or what Status is episode

>>166042436
The context is in the fucking pastebin, goddamn you are retarded. You already realize this, why even fucking act so stupid?

>>166042667
>My criticism of the topgun list is that it has ZERO criteria
Which is fine, because on top of the fact that criteria is implicit, you wouldn't even be able to list all the possible criteria.

>it's a TQ doesn't know when he's not wanted or welcome episode
Oh boy, what a shocker, did not see that coming.

>>166042739
>going to warframebuilder for dps numbers

Come on anon. Gotts thing is still in the OP and you can easily configure it for new weapons/mods

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>>166042739
It's literally fucking stated in the image. Semiautos have significantly inflated DPS because of their fire rate. WFBuilder assumes you are firing them at maximum fire rate - that is, 10 bullets/s - which is impossible without a macro. At best you can fire 3-4 shots/s. So basically cut the damage of everything in your picture by 70%.

Status can be good, but on a slow-firing weapon like semi-autos, with further dilution by IPS - you're fucking retarded if you think those weapons hold a candle to AkSomati/Stilletos.

>>166041986

>but WHY is the gun good? why is it viable? what makes it better than anything else in its class?

Gee, shit. I dunno. Maybe they're good because of their stats? Maybe the other things in their class don't have stats that good which is why they aren't on the list? Maybe you don't know anything and are ranting in a desperate attempt to look like you know something, anything about the game in the hopes that anonymous people on the internet will give you the validation you so clearly desire and can't get anywhere else?

>energy reduction intercetion

aasdaskds

fuck you DE

>>166043051
>which is impossible without a macro
What about binding fire to your scroll wheel?

>>166043075
>nova
nova.

Can TQ even be bothered to TRY to use more varied images, or does he want to be identified by his vibrant autism at a glance?

>>166043052
>stats
wow, it's almost like you should make a weapons chart based on stats

>>166042884
wfbuilder is much easier and faster to use and in most cases provide a fine substitute

>>166043075
>having trouble with interception
just fucking cap every point and go recapture a point after the enemies take it
it's not that fucking hard

>>166043051
>3-4 shots per second
do you have some kind of fucking palsy or something?

>>166043156
>banshee
banshee.

i still hate walking around

>>166043051

>i-it's impossible! not without a macro!

Or just binding fire to mouse wheel scroll. How dumb are you?

>>166042884

Meh. I don't think DPS numbers are the be-all and end-all of things but someone saying the AkMagnus and Telos Boltors are "shit" clearly doesn't know what they're talking about.

There are perhaps better options but that doesn't make them "shit" unless, like TQ, you've convinced yourself that you have to use the absolute best weapon in each slot at all times to prove your giant throbbing e-peen is superior to everyone else's.

>>166043375
He certainly has some kind of mental disability

>>166043372
who said anything about trouble
its the principle of having not to afk this shitty daily routine

>>166043051
>he doesn't play cs

>>166042784
>your image is shit and doesn't explain anything better than his IMAGE, and Your shitty guide is no excuse
>that's because i have a guide you moron
JUST

>>166043169
The word you're looking for is avatarfagging

>>166043149
very awkward to use, fucks over your other weapons, and I actually doubt you can hit the fire rate cap even with wheel bind.

AND EVEN THEN IT'S MUCH WORSE THAN THE FULL-AUTO SECONDARIES. Look at that DPS for akboltos - 20k. Aksomatis has 40k.

>>166043439
Telos AkBoltos were the first weapons I ever potato'd. I have a special spot in my heart for them, but fuck off, they're not good

If you absolutely want to include mediocre weapons in a weapons chart, fine. But you NEED to add some sort of note saying that "these weapons are mediocre and there are much better options." You even fucking stated it yourself in your post.

>>166039818

Literally

L
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E
R
A
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L
Y

Read the wiki.

>For those hunting down Seekers (either for Mod farming or the Sands of Inaros Quest), Exterminate missions such as Adaro, Sedna or Pallas, Ceres tend to spawn a lot of them

That said, solo a capture or mobile defense in those areas and just sit in the mission after it's done to farm them.

>>166043750
Yeah, that's the word.
Thanks anon, it was on the tip of my tongue

>>166043051
>which is impossible without a macro
So use a fucking macro then
You wouldn't manually cast EV
You wouldn't manually cast RJ
You wouldn't manually cast old desecrate
You wouldn't manually cast any spam ability
Why would you manually shoot a semi-auto unless going for precise headshots?

>>166043750
that word. it does not mean what you think it means.

>>166043641
The frames tier list picture is a just a summary. Goddamn you are retarded. It's simply a way to visualize the true meat of the tier list - the pastebin, which goes into detail about why frames are ranked the way they are and includes detailed builds.

>moas and bursas are literally just an ass and legs

Who WOULDNT want to fuck one of these
http://pastebin.com/KTDYdwMt

>>166043962
because few people bother with macros in this game, especially macros to make shitty weapons okay when there exist objectively superior options. I don't assume everyone has the knowledge to make macros. AND EVEN IF YOU DO MAKE A FIRE RATE MACRO, THEY ARE STILL WORSE THAN THE AKSOMATIS/AKSTILLETOS.

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>>166044058
I can't even fap to this it's too hilarious.

>3 day resource drop chance booster

ALL I WANT IS A FUCKING RIVEN

>2-3 fucking rivens since season started
>rest endo potatos and boosters
>common
>common
>common

>>166043857

>but fuck off, they're not good

You could not be more wrong. You could try. You would fail.

>mediocre

Mediocre is another thing entirely. Telos AkB and AkMagnus are great. They've been power crept past but that doesn't make them suddenly shit, they're still perfectly viable for post-DEAC runs and even come with some nifty benefits like the Teloses being quiet so if you fire from far enough away you won't alert enemies and don't need Hushed Invisibility or a silencer mod for stealth.

But no, muh numbers, muh DPS, muh nothing matters but taking everything out of context and basing everything purely on what can theoretically done while paying absolutely no heed to the many other factors that impact on weapon choice or usage.

>>166043372
He has so much trouble with interception he can't even spell it right.

>>166044019
>the frame list image is just a useless way to get people to read my pastebin
okay, that's fine as long as you're willing to admit that it has even less merit than the weapon graphic, I don't care what you call it.

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>>166044327
>Telos AkB and AkMagnus are great

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>>166044248
>madurai lens
>unairu lens
>madurai lens
>2000 endo
>greater madurai lens
>2000 endo
>2000 endo
>riven for burst laser

>>166044445

>uh oh, anon posted a build with dps listed showing they're fine for high-level content
>better post smug_animu_girl.gif and make fun of him

I love how you spout shit and then when you get proven wrong you have literally nothing to come back with than "no, u!"

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>>166044760
Here anon, save this image and use it next time.

>>166044760
Look, it's obvious we have different definitions of "good." I take good as relative - if there are significantly better weapons out there, it's not good. Whereas you think of "good" more as "usable." If you can make it work, then it's good, even if there are better options.

But maybe
JUST MAYBE
don't you think that this should be explained in a WEAPONS CHART FOR NEW PLAYERS
"Teloks Akboltos are 'good' but AkSomati and AkStilletos significantly outperform them."
So that perhaps people aren't mislead into thinking they are top-tier?

What this pink Infested AIDS nipple on my Warframe's neck?

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>>166044545

>>166044958
It's the party pimple, wait for it to grow hairs and go to make a Kubrow. There will be a button to "drain" it.

>>166041359
rebecca is so cute
i'd totally get on my knees and beg her for excalibur prime

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>>166044958
It's literally a dog.

>>166045015
>Have to make a Kubrow
>150k credits plus tip

Well fuck.

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daily reminder someone did this

>>166045364
reminder that no one cares anon.

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WHY WON'T THIS STUPID PIECE OF SHIT JUST GET DAMAGE ON IT SO I CAN SELL IT TO SOME ONE FOR QUICK MONEY FOR FUCKS SAKE

>>166042419
To be fair, a game crafted with code does actually boil down to mathematics and numbers.

Burn m

>>166045364
this makes me want to buy kuva for platinum. 10*10^27 kuva for 1p would be fair

>>166045364
>no matter how passionate you are about something there will always be stupid frogposters who laugh at how much effort your success toke,

>>166044940

New players are going to be limited by their MR.

Saying "get an AkStiletto prime" is literally pointless because it's MR5.

Meanwhile they can build the AkMagnus at MASTERY RANK ZERO and get a weapon they can start on, even with base mods, that will get them through DEAC *and* Sorties.

But that would require context and an understanding of the multiple systems in play. Both of which are entirely beyond you.

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>>166045364
>330k Kuva

>>166044545
I got a forma earlier. Every single reward was more useful than a forma.

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ever since i started playing warframe i cant spank it to the porn anymore.
theyre my friends and i cant jerk off to my friends

>>166045523
C Y C L E F O R 3 5 0 0
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>>166045671
THEN PERHAPS YOU WILL HAVE THE PLEASURE OF BEATING IT TO -THE- KELA DE THAYM

>>166045620
>implying a new player will potato it, dump multiple forma into it, and get multiple high-ranked mods for it, to the level he can so sorties with them

>>166045671
what about the bursa and heavy gunner porn? they're not your friends.

fuck warframe and fuck white people

>>166045612
>rolling the same riven 100 times for a shit weapon
>success

also frog posters are the only true posters on 4chan, anime weebs and meme kiddos pail in comparison

>>166045818
what did he mean by this

>>166045740
i like the loud and obnoxious bosses too so no ty

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>>166045850
>pail
literally dumb frogposter

>>166045771

>implying a new player can easily complete the missions required to get the relics to farm AkStilP, then build it

AkMagnus are a much easier target and stay relevant throughout the game.

Stay pleb, TQ. I'm done debating this shit with you because you clearly have no fucking idea about modding or using weapons, never mind what newbies should be aiming for.

>>166045671
it makes the porn so much better for me, whenever I play certain frames for a while I just start getting terrible ideas and have to go beat the meat or draw up the idea. Having weird fetishes helps a lot, try that.

>>166045771
>implying someone would keep a gun all the way through sedna and never potato or forma it, and will never get rare mods in that entire timespan

>>166044182
>THEY ARE STILL WORSE THAN THE AKSOMATIS
8.7 accuracy vs 26.7
:thinking:

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>>166045850
>frogposting
>not "meme kiddos"
I'm sorry but it's really all the same kinds of terrible.

>>166045996
>making excuses for mediocre weapons
>making excuses for a shitty weapons list that's not based on anything and doesn't explain any of the things you give it credit for

>>166046092
I did that though. I stuck with my Volt and my shitty Paris all the way through the later starcharts, rushed everything so I could get Mesa. She was the first frame I ever potato'd. T.Akboltos were the first weapon I ever potato'd, and I specifically wanted them because I wanted dual pistols for Mesa. I wish someone had told me back then they were shit and that Aksomatis are much better

H T3 Survival 40min

>>166046208
>less than half the damage ASSUMING you have max fire rate
>a quarter of the damage if you don't
really gets those neurons synapsin

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>>166045364

you don't understand

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>mfw ohma with crit-build+condition overload

>>166046605
>127 rolls in and not even +damage +multishot +element/reload/punchthrough/whatever -flight speed

I feel really lucky sometimes.

>>166046338
did you rush the starchart after specters of the rail, when progression suddenly required new players do a stupid dance and run i. circles to get past every planet, and complete several quests along the way? I'd believe you either way, but I'm pretty sure only someone as ignorant and stubborn as you could bother clearing the whole starchart as it stands while finding nothing they actually enjoy along the way.

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>>166047004

On the upside it's a fuckton of multishot, unfortunately what little sanity I thought I still had turned out to be an illusion

>>166043857
>very awkward to use
True

>fucks over your other weapons
You can have fire bound to both Left Click and the Scroll Wheel

>and I actually doubt you can hit the fire rate cap even with wheel bind
Would be interesting if someone could prove that one way or the other.
I'm not really sure how to go about doing so myself.

>>166047106
no, it was pre-SOTR

>>166047709
record gameplay, play it back very slowly. Count # bullets fired/time

wow, i haven't been here for months and you guys are still arguing about tiers. that's some dedication.

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How should I build Nekros Prime if I want to primarily use 3 and 4

we've been to the moon, so when are we going to the sun

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>>166048165
http://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

Nekros requires very specific and unique mod setups

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>>166048165
I don't know, I'm just here to shitpost

>>166047979
>Count # bullets fired/time
Well I'm not sure if there's a possibility of different mice recognizing scroll inputs at different speeds or if the game could possibly drop fire inputs if they come too quickly.
I'm just not sure about how reliable the hardware or game can be.

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>>166048320
you know TQ I would've listned to your post if you didn't shove your shitty guide down my throat

Thanks for trying to help I guess

>tfw no melee frame
All attempts at this are either some special weapon like Hysteria or mediocre buffs like Warcry.

>>166048510
>doesn't know about chroma

>>166048510
also atlas

>>166048165

CP Aura, Equilibrium, Stretch, (Primed) Continuity, Energy Conversion, Health Conversion, Despoil, Shield of Shadows, Cunning Drift/Power Drift.

EC is great on Nekros for this since it won't decrease Shadow duration or make Despoil cost more HP.

>>166048910

Also Constitution, Stream or Intensify depending on what you think it needs, fuck.

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It actually fucking happened lads.

I got into med school. Received the email 30mins ago

HOPES AND DREAMS COME TRUE

>tfw spent 3 years trying to get into med school
>tfw struggling with the 4-7% acceptances rates of schools
>tfw this was the last cycle I would've been eligible
>tfw I actually, finally got in

HOPES AND DREAMS COME TRUE

YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU BELIEVE IN LADS

/blog

Anyway, giving away 8 sets from the store, deluxe skins, deluxe bundles, hunhow, potatos, syandas, etc. anything just don't ask for dumb shit like a frame or a weapon. Leave your:

1) IGN
2) What you want
3) 2-3 sentences about a frame you think needs a rework and what you would change

After ~30mins I'll choose my favorite and send out the gifts.

HOPES AND DREAMS COME TRUE

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>>166035548
Nullifier planet Soon™

>>166049430
Maverick124
Hunhow's Gift

Atlas could use a rework, they should make his 1 be more like a channeled melee weapon but make it fists, give it a stance and combos and stuff. Make it so you can put up more than one wall at a time without the augment and make an augment to have 4 rumblers instead of just a giant one.

>>166048320
>no overextended
>ON NEKROS OF ALL FRAMES

JUST_FUCK_OFF_ALREADY

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>>166049430
Hope you fail out you nigger faggot which it looks like you will since you can't read, communicate to another person, or have basic problem solving skills no wonder it took you 3 YEARS

Why even play the game with no Rhino daddy to worship?

>>166049430
OmniXVII
Hunhow Gift
Rework Atlas rumblers to deal damage based on melee mods and no longer die to nullifiers. bulwark now provides a damage reduction aura.
<3

>>166048320
>equilibrium
Did you not get the memo anon? Check your mail from over a year ago. Nekros is gone.

>>166049430
Ash Koga Bundle,

Larry_Foulke if it's true.

Should I go Zarr/Spira or DexSybaris/Klustar?

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>>166049430
Congrats dweeb

I don't need anything. Just wish you luck on your future shit.

>>166049430
1. Higgus
2. 5 sets of arcane energize
3. Nyx because chaos is too good and needs a nerf

>>166049670
it's a hybrid build, not pure desecrate

>>166050219
what? EQ is core on SotD nekros

>>166049430
>SpaceSilure
>harkonar set
>i just like zephyr, flying is fun, felling free and shit. I'll mix her 1 and 2, make her 2 fly like titania, and make her tonado attrack people like vauban's vortex, and not throw them away

>>166050369
Yeah. Over a year ago. Its time to wake up from the coma grandpa

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>>166050265

>>166049670

Overextended hurts his Shield of Shadows though.

In the past when he was just a lootbot or if anon was just looking for a lootbot build then sure, but for a hybrid build as it stands right now OE is a bit of a no-no.

>>166050257

Why not Zarr/Kulstar?

Of those specific combos I would go Dexbaris/Kulstar, Dexbaris gives you accuracy without flight time and arcs.

>>166050550
EQ is better on Nekros now than it's ever been. What the actual fuck are you smoking?

>>166049430
Don't fucking play warframe or you'll get ejected in no time
I spent 5 years in medschool, that's right 5 years, and got kicked due to being indoctrinated by warframe.
To this day this is my greatest regret, not buying founder's pack because I thought the game would such and I needed to focus on my studies.
Fucking medfag shit, robbed me of my founder's pack.
Prepare your anus anon.

Also IGN:Wiawyr
I want: off this ride
Loki needs a rework because his invisibility is way too short; I can't even properly fall asleep while using him anymore.

>>166049430
Sonicberry, Color Pack: Alpha

I'd give Ember's Fire Blast heat damage to your weapon for standing within its area of effect. Heat procs from weapon damage occur independently of your weapon's status.

>>166050694
Elaborate. Do you spam shadows instead of desecrate like a raging retard for no reason?

>>166049430
1) Crimgoure
2) That new Frost bundle would be pretty sweet but I'll take whatever you feel like offering
3) Titania- I feel like she's so close to being good if they just fixed the randomness of her Tributes by making certain enemies give certain buffs and maybe made the useless ones kinda not-useless. Her 1 is pretty decent and her 3 COULD be decent if it was more consistent CC. Her ult is fun as heck but maybe make the flies not die so easily or respawn as you stay in the ult or something.

Also congrats anon, you done good

>>166048510
Saryn is a melee tank

>>166050769
what the actual fuck is wrong with you

>>166050769
>>166050265
>>166050927
>shits up this general over more than a year
>thinking he has a chance know how retarded he is

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>>166051024
>tfw you achieve your dreams
>tfw you have transcended the emotion known as anger and will never be angry again

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Give me a baseball bat DE

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HUSH WORM. LET THE SHITPOSTERS DO THEIR WORK.

>>166049430
ScoutMctartan
Nyx Nemisis skin
Oberon, because who needs a rework more. Give the guy more armor buffs, keep his blind but give his ping pongs balls of rads a debuff effect on them that either weakens or slows the enemy.
Make his fuzzy carpet the iron carpet and buff the hell outta frames defense while within the carpet, maybe have it buff objectives as well. Make renewal work like a variation of Blessing that works over time rather than instantly while also giving straight up damage res like shatter shield.
Smite should be replaced by a literal smiting magistar looking exalt that you can raise in the air and blind people while also smashing enemies for AOE damage.

>>166049430
Now this is some old U14 tier copy pasta, such nostalgia

no frame can make holding the lex prime look cool

>>166050906
check the guide, it's literally explained for you. Why would you ever spam SotD or Desecrate?

So for the xbox, how quickly can i get the five achievements for the 75 platinum?

>>166051234

>tfw you know he'll be raging and shitting up the very next thread

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>>166049430
I don't know whats more pathetic
pretending to be successful or being a (you) farmer

>>166049430
ign RMME hunhow gift, I want oberon to be good so I can use his sexy skin , I dont know what to change

>>166052171
Im on xbone and I never saw any achievements say anything about plat fuck are you on about

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>>166049430
It's finished lads. Everyone who replied correctly got their gift!

BELIEVE IN YOUR HOPES AND DREAMS

>>166052136
Then why would you NEED equilibrium in the build if you're not spaming anything? You'd get more out of rage
Fucking retarded

>>166052732
because you get infinite health/energy from the Desecrate/Despoil/EQ loop

And you have to recast SotD pretty frequently. You don't spam it buy you need to recast ~30s or so, on a negative efficiency build that's very costly without EQ

>>166049430
>>166052727
can you buy me Mesa? thanks
ign:BPNPC

>>166052625
There is a xbox reward program for free to play games, if you get 5 achievements by feburary 28, you get 75 platinum free

https://rewards.xbox.com/freedom-rewards/

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>>166052727
Based, thanks man

I wish you the best in Med School <3

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>>166049430
1) Konx
2) Ash Koga bundle(For max edgy)
3) Limbo he's utter shit atm(Unless you're slow enough to let hostage be in danger) Since all that matters on this game is either CC or damage,A Good CC skill based on his Void mechanic Or a stand

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>>166052727
ily future med student, i'll do my best to pay it forward

>>166052727
thx, and good luck in your studies

>Gambit released on PS4 today
>Spent four hours grinding the new game type on Eris for only two Chassis of Nidus
Taking a break right now but when do we start to get those infected nipple piercings for our frames? Can I place them on Sayrns breast?

[/Lotus/Language/Weapons/CorpusSpearGunName]
-"[PH] CORPUS SPEAR GUN"
+"FERROX"

hyped for something with a better firing style than "flight speed no puncthrough no splash" javlok.

>Watch out, the alarnms have triggered a Bursa
>A juggernaut is near. They're lured out by the death of the infested
>the grineer have... uhhhh...

>>166051000
What? I'm completely normal, are you having some educational or warframe-y problems so you discredit internet advice?

>>166054220
Maniacs.

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>kuva fortress gives good affinity
>when you're in a squad
>nobody plays on kuva fortress
>everyone just plays on mind numbing akkad
suffering

>>166049430
1) JokeTriple
2. Ash Koga or Excalibur Proto-Armor
3. I think Hydroid needs a rework and a prime to come with it. His puddle should just be something like Oberon's ult in the sense that it lifts enemies up and puts them into a bubble. Instead of slamming them though, the bubble just drowns them like his puddle. This would make it less glitchy and the enemies would be able to be grabbed by his tendrils. The augment mod could be changed so that enemies in the AoE would just get heal over time that works like his puddle.

>>166054220
mwhuahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHA

>nothing worse than dogposting
really makes you think

>>166049430
>>166050769
This means we might finally be free of TQ?

>>166054631
school doesn't start until the fall

>>166054351
Too bad Kuva tileset fucking sucks.

>>166054839
The kuva fortress is actually a great tile, looks great too, but that fucking minimap is fucking shit

>>166054839
>he can't navigate
git gud

>>166054963
It's true though. The minimap needs an update badly.

>>166049430
>1) IGN
>2) What you want
>3) 2-3 sentences about a frame you think needs a rework and what you would change
1. kill
2. you are
3. selve _________________________________________

>>166054631
Jesus christ. Imagine the poor patients and other doctors and nurses who will have to put up with him.

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Are there actually any 'better' mods beyond gold/riven/whatever mods? Like, the 'normal level' mods but better? Because I'm doing pretty garbage damage to stuff with almost all setups I have, and I don't see how the normal mods could help with that.

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>>166055273
>Actually these meds have a higher dps against this cold than these meds

>>166055363
Rarity doesn't necessarily coincide with usefulness. Equilibrium is a common mod but one might say its very useful.

Generally, look at the wiki and see what you need for your guns/frames/whatever and look into acquiring them.

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>>166049430
>IGN
PS4 - Citamorf
>What you want
Warframe and Weapon Slots!
>2-3 sentences about a frame you think needs a rework and what you would change
Oberon, he needs to be a off-healing tank that can do damage again, all he does now is toss toenail clippings at things and just makes them confused/slow down or whatever. No one gives a fuck about confusing/slowing down enemies in the majority of Warframes, what gives a fuck is killing SHIT FASTER BEFORE IT KILLS YOU.

I'm not the Lord of the Forest just to get dicked by fucking deers and frolic in flowers while my wife gets fucking pile-drived by fucking Ember and eaten out by Equinox, Oberon might as well be called Cuckeron by now

>>166055273
he's gonna be like House except without the wit or charisma or intelligence.

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>>166055119
>>166055551
He's done guys

>>166049430
1) HelmetPotato
2) Ash Koga Bundle
3) Apart from CL cheese Ash is fucking complete garbage after his "rework". I'd bring back some of the elements of the old Bladestorm and rework it so that it's a channeled ability and like Mirage's HoM. Ash's clones seek out enemies and grab items for him, while he can move around and shoot as usual.

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>>166048165
>Cunning Drift + Stretch
maximum range without compromising POW STR. This is as much range Despoil can get without overextended.

Everything else in the build is there to support Shadows of the Dead and make you as tanky as possible without sacking range.

Kuva Heavy Gunners are rigged to not drop anything.

>>166052727
>>166049430

Guess I missed this. Good luck to you and don't ruin it by playing too much video games. This general will be a lot slower and more boring without you here.

>TQ got into med school

I want proofs

>>166056184
its a 3% chance to drop a mod and a 0.5% chance for it to be the new stance, happy hunting friend

>>166056184
3% chance to even drop ANY mod

0.5% chance to drop the mod you want, along with crimson dervish and sure footed at the same chance.

>on-off player with not much stuff in the game
>left game for a long time
>heard about new starmap and way to get prime parts
>its worse than void keys with 3x more restrictions
is there a fucking point to coming back anymore?

>>166056440

How about you make a decision on your own you dumb cunt?

>>166056328
>>166056343
So you proved his point?

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>>166056440
>I'll delibrately say the wrong thing so /wfg/ can spoonfeed me
Ask again but nicer and I'll tell you how to do it.

>>166056628
cats are fucking ugly and i wish they didn't exist

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>>166056667
The back of your mother doesn't exist after I blew it out you fat dork son of a bitch.

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>>166056667
I WANT Satan to LEAVE.

What did you name your first kubrow fellow Tenno?

>>166056191
Hi TQ

>>166056319

That'll be hilarious.

>The symptoms, patient's account, and blood test all show that it's meningitis
>well unless they can post a shot of their full in-game warframe collection, mods ordered by rank, and endo count i refuse to believe it. now prepare the patient for an appendectomy
>but an appendectomy will do literally nothing to help this patie-
>NINE. THOUSAND. ENDO :^)

>>166056785
nice job proving my point with that picture

>>166056807
vsarg's already been purged, so there you go.

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What do you do when you feel the passion fading away?

What can you do to keep the flame lit?

>All these people who unironically replied to TQ asking for gibs
Disgusting, all of you.
You gave free (You)s to the guy who singlehandedly shits up an entire general all so you could have some petty items in game?

>>166056941
I named him Ugly because he was ugly

>>166056941
Short Bulky Huras kubrow. Named him Axel. After Axel Almer from SRW OG.

>>166056191
>won't get to argue with Tierqueer anymore

I'm starting to get sad

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>>166056941
Vauban Prime, though before that his name was "Jesus Christ" because I thought it would be funny when someone revived him it would say "Jesus Christ has been revived!"

>>166057081
/wfg/ is populated by shameless whores with 0 dignity.