Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

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Magatha WHEN

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dva WHEN

>playing with 4 other friends
>every game is a stomp against us

epic matchmaking blizz!!!

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how ded

>>165988330
>Sudden

>>165988928
Maybe you guys just suck at the game.

>>165988928
>be a shit player
>blame blizz

I bet you're a gold 3 player

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

>>165989034
>>165989081

we do

would be nice if we went aginst other shitters?

>>165988928
It's shit playing with irl friends who are turbo-normies. A smurf is the only solution.

>>165988928
QM? And you're 4-stacking?

1) Go fuck yourself
2) You or your friends probably aren't that great. I won't be a cunt about it, but I will say if it bothers you, try to identify your shortcomings and correct them best you can in the future, don't repeat mistakes. Biggest mistake people make it being too ballsy in the wrong situations.

Over-confidence is a slow and insidious killer.

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>Tassadar shield leech component works on core damage done

>>165989219
it would be nice if we didnt get stomped every game, thats all

>>165989287

Recently 5-stacked Quick Match with friends who hadn't played the game before and we won the first twenty or so games in a row, although I did use a smurf.

>>165989287
>5-stack
>getting stomped

uh did you all meme pick or like literally how

>>165989287
Do you think the problem is in your guys' inability to properly manage objective vs. soaking? Maybe you guys look to fight too much over things that don't matter/nothing at all? There's gotta be something that keeps happening that messes with you guys.

>>165989476
>>165989438
we were going normal comp, werent meme picking


again, would be nice if we got other shitters

>>165989287
maybe stop being shit???

>>165989573
No, that's the thing. If there isn't another 5-stack of similar MMR queuing it'll pit you against people with a higher MMR.

>be gold, friends are silver-gold
>people you queue into will be gold-plat, occasional low diamond

Get in voice if you want to win. And/or git gudder.

>>165989573
Well we can't give you any more advice. Just have to improve is all. Yeah it sucks, but, only got one option.

>>165989585
WOW NICE ADVICE ANON

>>165989242
As in it can make the core heal itself?

>>165990291
Yep.

>>165990291

Yes. I'd link some grubby shit but 4chin won't let me.

>>165991303
>>165991413
How often do they find and/or fix bug in PTR?

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>hype over Valeera and the new stuff
>they aren't even out yet
>lose interest in the game
>rinse and repeat with next hero

>tfw 65% winrate with zul'jin AP build
>tfw 25% winrate with AA build

makes ya think

>>165991519
Same, but that'll stop once we start getting SC and OW heroes, I don't care about SC at all., and OW is cool just not as big to me as WC or Diablo at all. And god knows we aren't getting Diablo heroes anytime soon, and if we are, they won't be D2 characters. Only characters I give a shit about from D3 are the Nephalem and we already have all of them.

>>165991498

Depends on the bug

Really game breaking ones get fixed, some wait a week to get fixed in balance patch

>>165991787
>tfw turbo blizzdrone who owns/plays all the games

Can never not be hyped about any hero

>>165992592
I'm not hyped about D.Va.

Her self-destruct ult is going to be shittier than Diablo's flamethrower. Can't imagine what the other one would be.

Zarya at least had an interesting but pointless alternate ult. Tracer straight-up just only has a shitty pulse bomb regardless of choice. I fear every Overwatch hero is going to have equally shit design.

>>165992779
This.
But sadly they're a necessary evil.

>>165992968
>necessary evil
What?

>>165992779
But Zarya's alternate ult is far superior???

>>165993068
Gotta get the OW crowd in here.
I suspect they're gonna release the loot system with an OW hero just to jew to the max.

>>165992779
expulsion zone is amazing.

>>165993190
How does that explain "necessary evil"?

99% of the OW people who came over for the Genji Nexus challenge hated the shit out of the game because they are mostly League players who think HotS is too casual even for them.

They don't like HotS.
We don't like them because they're all fucking shitters.

>>165993337
It is because the game needs more players, if it wasn't obvious.

And that's not true, the event netted a lot more than 1% of the people who came for the challenge. Probably as much as blizzard had hoped.

>>165993078
>>165993232
Other than like, walling off Blackbeard, I don't really see how it's superior in a situation where you are firing a Zarya ult when you want the enemy team to be cluttered up in one spot so your team can actually kill them instead of scattering them away in a futile attempt to stall, especially when plenty of heroes can probably jump a wall or something. Sort of like how Leoric is in a bad place because march isn't the greatest in a teamfight and tomb does shit-all for zoning against 90% of the heroes.

I said interesting because it sounded like a nice idea but in practice, you're going to get no utility out of it because it's too short to stall for objectives, and the maps are too open to try to do something tricky like walling in enemies while you wail on them unless the enemy let themselves get cornered like idiots in the first place.

>>165993626
you split them, and force the back half of the team out of the fight. it's also got a 40 second cooldown opposed to a 100 second cooldown. You can also block gates with it so they can't retreat.

Does Zul'Jin have the least skilled playerbase in the game?

>>165995931
I think that goes to Illidan and Abathur, maybe Butcher instead of Abathur. I've seen more good Abathurs than Butchers. And that's saying something.

I wouldn't even base that on Zul'jin's playerbase, but moreso Zul'jin himself. He's such a non-threat and easy to deal with.

>>165995931
>can't die
>only needs to right click
probably.

>>165995931
Zul'jin kind of requires good positioning and you need to actually be able to aim to his skill shot.

He's not hard to play, but to get the most of out of him you have to be decent.

>>165996753
every hero in the game requires right clicking on the ground and aiming your abilities

>>165996959
What are you aiming with Li Li for example?

>>165997126
Her Q, with her positioning relative to that of her teammates.

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>>165997126
bolt

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>Stitches
>7k
>Chen
>7k
>The lost memes
>10k

>>165997126
snake dragon

>>165997341
>Zeratul 10k
>Leoric 10k
>Kharazim 10k
>Abathur 10k

Hm. Wonder how long until Abby gets a rework to make him less of a super niche pick.

>>165997445
>tfw bought Zeratul
I still can't get over those 10k gold

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>>165997341
>The Lost Memes
kek

>>165997445
Considering Blizzard he'll probably stop being a hat and start being a body. That will be sad.

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>>165997550
>Azmo
>2k
When this happen?!

>>165997835
Recently.

Rexxar to 4k, too.

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>>165988902
Sombra WHEN?

>>165998013
gross

nova nerfs when?

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>>165998079

>>165998247
WHEN????

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>Mura 4k

>>165998473
>tfw bought the Maruader Muradin skin
am i dumb?

Ok I got 10k I can buy any hero I own raynor stiches what hero do I buy to win games?

WHO THE FUCK COUNTERS NOVA????

IM TIRED OF THIS BITCH STOMPING EVERY SINGLE GAME

>>165996959
Yeah but his skill shot is different than anyone's in the game because of the arc it takes and I see Zul'jin's just whiff it like crazy.

>>165998595
Not being shit counters Nova.

>>165998641
every hero in the game has abilities different than other heroes'

>>165998363
After they nerf the half of the cast above her

>>165998584
medivh.

>>165998724
IM SHIT

WHO COUNTERS HER??

EVERY GAME SHE GOES 20 KILLS PLUS

WHO

COUNTERS

HER?????

>>165998595
Charge Taunt Parry the Snipe

>>165998584
ragnaros and artanis

Beware of blizzard balance. You won't be OP forever

>>165998595
Abathur. Or tass, greymane, rexxar.

>>165998774
use your hands, eyes and brain to launch hurty things in the direction of nova to counter her

>>165998774
If you play starcraft youll notice shes and all invis heroes arent truly invisible. If you have a non target spell to knock her out of invis at a bad time then shes ded. Raynor can work use his shot thing when you see her and just right click her down. I played alot of starcraft so im used to seeing the blur but you should get used to it.

>>165999116
Aren't there a few cases where there isn't the shimmer?

>>165998774
I'll pretend this is just shitposting

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>>165998641
here's a guide for you

>>165999181
nope, there is always the shimmer.

>>165999181
I wont say there might not be but if there is its not often ive killed a good few cheeky novas and zeratuls cause they were behind my teams line and got caught. Also nova is preety squishy so she doesnt take much to kill.

>>165999181
yeah, like the first second of samuro's thing and the whole of tassadar's

i think nova doesn't have any of it though

>>165999303
the lvl 20 talent makes her unrevealable

>>165999238
what a shitty fucking guide nigga you didnt even mention aiming to the side if theyre close smdh

>>165999303
tass's isn't a stealth technically. Samuro he shimmers always, but you can't break it for the first second.

>>165999414
if they're at melee range then you shouldn't be using your w

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>>165999350
Yeah, but nobody takes it.

>>165998774
Uh, tanky stuff.

>Tassadar
>Abathur
>Chen, Butcher, Illidan
>Like, any of the tanks

Just look for the shimmer and knock her out of stealth. Try a custom game against a Nova bot, perhaps?

>>165999448
admit your damm mistakes instead of makin some dumb generalizing statement to justify them

>>165999602
nigga it's a chasing tool for when people are out of your auto reach that's why it even has a slow built in

>>165999687
so ur tellin me i shouldnt use that sicc slow & damage for anythin other than that even though its perfectly doable

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>>165998595
>>165998774

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Jaina a cute CUTE!

>>165999957
why dont u CHILL out

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>>166000009
COLD

>>165999957
I HATE RESORTING TO VIOLENCE

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>>166000125
I'm sorry, what? Thrall and me? Ugh, who keeps spreading that filthy rumor? Besides, everyone knows I prefer blue over green.

guldan buffs when?

>>165999238
How do I properly use Taz'dingo?

>>166001576
What the fuck would you buff on him aside from Rain? He's perfectly fine. He's great, anon, just gitter da gudder

>multiple faggots' faces when i ask what zarya build to use and they say the grenade build

jesus christ i can't believe i fell for it. it's fucking dogshit and the energy build is OP as fuck.

>>166001658
pick it when you reach level 10 and press r

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Dehaka is so crazy OP

>amazing waveclear
>best stun in da game
>global
>tanky
>can burrow

How is not first pick every game?

>>166002090
Wew thanks now I'm in Masters.

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>>166002078

here is said reaction, sorry i made you wait for it.

>>165998774
Tassadar

Every character with reveal talents
Every character with spell shield/armor

>>166002132
Because I can only play Dehaka or Artanis at one time.

why even bother picking assassins in qm like guldan? youre gonna get matched with 3-4 others

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>tfw i buyed medivh

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>>166002705
same

>>166001658
>>166002149
Don't walk into a situation expecting to use it is the best advice anyone's given me on it. Use it in a scenario where you were taken by surprise and are about to die for sure, pop it and attempt to take someone down with you, or if they all just run and shit, you run yourself, because you just escaped death. Of course the possibility of baiting someone into a 1v1 is possible, most people aren't stupid because they've been exposed to Taz enough to know you don't do that, unless they have a counter to your Taz (Ice Block, a Blind, etc.)

So yes, don't go into any situation thinking "okay so ill go in here and when i get low its clobberin' time", use it with your life in mind first and foremost.

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>>166002823
I should not find Chromie as attractive as I do

>>165999443
They changed it a while back. If you're in unrevealable stealth, you have true, shimmerless invisibility.

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>hero almost to lv 9
>Won/lose a game somehow you still need a ridicouls tiny xp to get you free gold.
EVERY FUCKING TIME.

>>166003676
Gnomes are for sexing

>first two games of the day
>4-stack
>5-stack

absolutely epic

Murky is more useful than Gazlowe.

And that's sad.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s1GDrb5W9Y
>That final poke line
Her voice is pretty sexy

>>165997686
What? They reworked Tassadar and instead of making him a proper High Templar solidified his standing as Sentry.

>Favorite Warrior is Rexxar
>Favorite Assassin is Zul'jin
>Favorite Specialist is Gazlowe

I have such shit taste, and this game loves to punish me for it.

>>166007087
what's your favourite food

>>166007115
French toast.

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>>166007087
>all that horde trash

>>166008309
>Nep poster

>>166008309
>Varian
>Greymane
>Uther
>Medivh
Old Alliance, best Alliance.

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>>166008710
>Varian
>Old Alliance

>>166008793
He's the son of the OG king, we're not gonna get anything closer until they release Lothar. Which they'll never do after the flop Warcraft movie was.

>>166009254
Then Arthas might as well be old alliance because Uther was his teacher

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>>166008710
>sassy an powerful as all heck
>Banged a half draenei half orc
>Came back from the dead just to tell the other races to get their shit together
How can one man be so based?

>>166009993
>sassy
So that explains Khadgar

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>>166010080
Khadgar when?

>>166010138
I bet he's our Arcane Mage rep.

>>165989287
guy who solo queues and constantly gets demolished by stacks here

kill yourself

>>166005951
>stealth is my middle name. Valeera Stealth Sanguinar. Thank the sun I didn't become a merchant or something

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>mfw watching Rich's stream
my god that medivh is insane

just started playing this game recently and jewed up 10k gold coins, should I get zuljin or xeratul? Purely for longevities sake because im not giving these jews money for each hero.

Blizzard ones on Reddit are on butthurt alert because someone on Reddit dare say Tass doesn't play like a Templar should.

>>166014946
>zuljin or zeratul
Both are pretty niche and difficult to get shit done with if the enemy knows how to handle you.
Things like Valla, Raynor, Tychus, Ragnaros, Artanis and others have a much bigger presence at higher ranks due to not exploding the moment they show their face.
Zul'jin only does damage with his aa build and even then he's an incredible glass canon.
Zeratul is scary during the laning phase at low mmr because absolutely no one has gank awareness but during teamfights if you don't land your prison right then you're dead weight, assuming the enemy team just doesn't let you eat the backline and walk away.

i'm having a problem that my login button is grayed out. after some reserch ive noticed that most people that had this issue was in a patch a year ago, so no luck with google. anyone knows how to fix this?

>>166015134
>no mana drain
>psi storm isn't a high cost spammable ability that does amazing damage
>can't fuse with people to become a different kind of cho'gall

Tbqf famalam his auto attack being shit is perfectly in form with High Templaring.

>>166015134
>someone on Reddit dare say Tass doesn't play like a Templar should.
Not being able to attack at all?

>>166005951
>oversized orc daggers

>>166002132
>Dehaka
>amazing wave clear
Where? It's clearly not coming from Shit Swarm.

>>166015165
How well received in higher ranks are Varian, Artanis or Illidan?

Is it ever worth getting Zul'jins lv1 Q talent if you think you won't be able to complete the quest? Q talents on general?

>>166015687
BIG
GREEN
ORC
DAGGERS

>>166015719
Varian is fine since he has a semi versatile talent tree, cc for days and both taunt and smash are amazing ults.
Artanis is pretty meta, that swap and passive really fuck with the enemy team.
Illidan is niche, great at picking off people but during teamfights he has to engage very carefully.

>>166015848

Q talents don't math out over the course of the game compared to W and straight AA and survability talents. Q talents seem to be the weaker options in most circumstances. Except for the movement speed talent which is an aggressive gap close that should be considered if shuffle isn't needed and you don't have issues channeling regen.

>>166016476
Illidan should go for the support during team fights

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>>166015848
>>166016580
The only one with a useful quest talent in the game is Tychus

>>166015848

Give the. The Axe is not a Q talent. Its a seasoned marksman effect on all basic attacks.

>>166015676
>>166015307
>Psistorm is a piss puddle
>Shields and barriers
>Support instead of mage

And now his auto attacks are a joke

I can see why people are unhappy....just like with xul

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>>165988330
>stop playing League of Legends
>check out HotS and shit
>have a fuck ton of fun and find that I love most heroes
this is the beginning

>>166017515
What's with the sudden influx of Lolbabs?

>>166017547
In my case, it's just annoyance. Game balance is kinda annoying because Riot wishes to have super depressing champions in the game. Poppy, Lee, Syndra, Jayce, etc.

It's not a fun game at all for me, and the champions I love are a bit problematic in a way. Illaoi has issues if the enemy knows about her, and Gangplank blows dick until mid to late game.

>>166016580
I see your point, just feels like when you get all assassins and no frontline in QM it feels safer to skirmish with your Q rather than sustained AAs.

>>166018019

I have much more success with the twin blade AP build in those cases. Q build is definately the "im bad at the other two builds" build for sure though.

>>166018091
I guess that makes sense, Q isn't really something to build as such, it's main point is to enable AAs.

>want to own all heroes
>new heroes every 3 weeks
>cant keep up because i dont have that much time to play (3 or 4 games per night)

will blizz ever stop releasing new heroes and dedicate to balance the already existing ones?

>>166018884

Doubtful. New heroes is the only sustainable lifeblood and cashflow this game has.

>>165999957
this is the only skin i would pay real money for

>>166017515

Welcome newfriend

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>>166018884
>new hero goys
>you probably don't have £15k and wouldn't want to miss out on OP on release
>so why not pay £7.49

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>>166018884
>will blizz ever stop releasing new heroes
Fuck no. Keep them coming.

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>>166019107
You wouldn't pay real money for Kaiju Diablo? What's wrong with you

>>166019176

It works. People are impatient and that's the capitalist way. At least Blizzard doesn't release crazy OP heroes and conveniently wait months to nerf them like other games do.

>>166019347
>At least Blizzard doesn't release crazy OP heroes and conveniently wait months to nerf them like other games do.
>Kael'thas and Li-Ming laughing.jpg

>>166019391

Well, to be fair Kael'thas was released like 2 years ago and Li Ming like a year ago now. This past year of release has been pretty great since then.

>>166019347
>>166019545
Forgetting Samuro already?

>>166019391
They genuinely believed Li-Ming is hard to play because everything she has is a skillshot. She probably was balanced in their bronze playtests.

who had the biggest winrate in history? Xul?

>>166020462

I think release Xul and release Samuro are close.

They are balanced now though.

>>165988902
>>165998013
never
thank god

>>165998013
they have to make her work in overwatch first

>>166015698
Pick Primal Aggresion at lvl1

>>166008309
>Zul "spit on da horde" Jin
>Gazlord
>Horde

>>166021273
It's great to hear Zul'Jin talk down to both Gul'dan and Thrall

>>166020462
Thrall in beta with battle momentum and Zarya in October for 24h, probably

>playing abathur in QM
>tfw your team has no hero worth making a copy of

>>166021926
>enemy aba keeps cloning Zeratul
>team won't disengage or protect backline when he does

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>>166002705
>unlocked him yesterday, few QM to get him to 5
>team mates have no fucking idea what portal does and die every game
>*chat fills with pinoy gibberish*
>mediv noob!

>tfw your team is so shit you start burrowing into enemies and feeding as abathur

>>166022953
>feeding on purpose
go play lol where there is a surrender button

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>>166010191
Probably, wow writers have severe homolust for him. But wouldn't the WC3 human mage be rhonin or antonio banderas?

>no fire magic user yet either

>>166023236
>>no fire magic user yet either
what is Kael'thas

Gui Montag soon though

>>166023236

>no fire magic user

Lol

>>166023236
Wasn't Antonidas a frost mage, just like Jaina?

>>166023353
>>166023450
yeah i guess KT counts im retarded. I guess I was thinking more of the crit fire of like a destro lock or burn over time

>>166023505
yeah he was the human mage which has 2 skills jaina eventually got. But he also had brilliance aura and mass teleport. Those will probably go on whoever becomes the arcane mage which is probably gonna be khadgar

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Marksmanship Hunter when?

HO HO

>>166023823
>hunter hero
>trait is to do 20% less damage than everyone else on his team

>>166023823

>Hemet Nesingwary

>>166023823

Tyrande :^)

>>166024039
>has only 2 active skills

>>166023823
>Q aimed shot
>W you have a pet, awesome!
>E feign death
>R more powerful aimed shot
>D your auto attacks deal more damage the longer you spend not moving or using abilities
The vanilla experience

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>>166024561

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>trying to look up videos for new heroes to pick and see how people good at the game actually play them and go through talent trees
>every single time its fucking MFPallyTime
>he admits before hand he's shit with most heroes
>does a retarded build
>dies alot
>then blames it on him recording footage & commentating at the same time

Can you guys recommend someone that's not retarded?

>>166024561
>>166024669
>You start with a limited amount of ammo
>You get 1 ammo from creep and merc kills
>Hero kills give a little more
>Ammo is also given from using shrines
>Attacking and using abilities costs 1 ammo each
The TRUE vanilla experience

>>166024561
>literally better than rexxar, including the meme talent feign

>post on rebbit about making transition from lel to hots
>okay neat what's his
>league is too team reliant
>I'm coming to hots because I've been bronze for nearly four years

God. Damn it.

>>166024924
Hey, they tweaked him on the ptr. Has anybody gotten the chance to test him?

>>166024875
You got it all wrong
>you have 50 ammo when you spawn
>have to B back to get your ammo refreshed

>>166025205

Every team game is team reliant. At least hots doesn't waste and hour of your time if you are losing and comebacks are always possible at any point of the game.

They are very different games at their core, so if you enjoy playing it your team shouldn't bother you much. You will never fix randos in any gane, so just focus on bettering your own play and you will do fine.

>>166025205
My thoughts exactly when I read the thread.
He'll probably get around Plat3 here.

>>166024803
McIntyre

>>166024803
Chu8

>>166024803
Uh, bother. I haven't really been keeping up with who is good on the youtube recently.

>Chu8
>McIntyre
>Dreadnaught
>Sreyz
>Grubby

Questionable stuff here and there, take everything with a grain of salt, etc.

So, whats the deal with Ragnaros? I know hes supposed to be good, but in the wood league where I play I hardly see any good Ragnaros and rarely see people using his trait, which I thought was one of his strong points. Its just his base kit thats considered OP or what? Would still pick Thrall over him anytime.

I just got back playing(stopped before Alarak and the new maps were released), were there signifcant changes to Hammer or Leoric?

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>>166026080
Some buffs to Leo, I thought. Still a niche/counterpick, though.

Hammer is still hammer. Take structures for free down where people don't have minimaps. Also pretty funny if you get a Morales and then tank to peel for you.

>>166025694
Yeah, Bronze in League is pretty rough. Bronze in Hots is actual hard feeding with an unstable internet connection.

>>166024803

Leyzar is alright but is a saltlord Romanian cunt.

Pallytime has a problem with thinking only one build per hero is good and he will never ever admit or take suboptimal talents because he pretty much plays solo Queue QM only. He has a ton of good info and a mountain of bad info and habits that I think rub off into people who watch him religiously.

Grubby is actually good but people here hate him. He knows a lot about drafting, hero niches, and hus tier list is usually spot on or at the very least fair.

Mewn is a shitter, horsepants is good but not fun to watch, and the rest of the TGN fags are goldies that are all bad.

>>166026324
>Pallytime only plays QM
>solo

Did he get flamed out of ranked by chance?

>>166026324
Grubby understand the game in a very deep level but he is actually bad at playing the game (even he admit it).

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>>166023823
hopefully never

>>166026391

He can't adapt to situations at all. He picks a build whether it's shit against the enemy comp or not, and rolls with it. That's a bad way to play at his level, so he loses a fuck ton.

He also can't draft and relied on Mewn to carry him into diamond last season. Then he lost almost all of his placements in the new HL system and pretty much doesn't play it much anymore.

I need to git gud with a couple more tanks. Right now I main Anub when I have to tank, but I'm thinking of practicing more with ETC and maybe one other hero so I have more options. Who else is good for tanking right now? I play Mura sometimes, but he's a little boring.

>>166026080
>rarely see people using his trait
See, thats the issue with bad Rags. They literally forget his trait exists. I had to remind a Rag on my team that he actually had it once, and advised him to use it. He still is good, and puts out tons of ranged poke, and Sulfuras Smash is still going to net you kills if you land it, but the nerf to Heroic Mode did hurt him a lot. The biggest thing he lost was his duration time. Going from 50% to 25% dmg I think was fine, and stops him from instagibbing people with just hammer and meteors. Meteors especially were fucking silly to use because they slowed, could hit the same person multiple times, and did like 400 damage each meteor. The loss to his health is what hurt it most. He looks big and bad, but Molten Core is made from wet paper. You take ANY damage during it and you will only be in there for a few seconds. Heroic Mode was the only thing that really let you put out a lot more damage just because you had more time to spam your abilities. Now he lost health, damage, and his time to use abilities. I'd want it to be buffed back to 50% increased hp, but keep the dmg boost at just 25%.

>>166026427

His knowledge is good and that's something. His mechanical skills are also pretty good as well coming from competive WC3. I'd say he's a bad team player, but I wouldn't go as far as to call him completely bad at everything and you shouldn't listen to his advice and learn from his play especially if you're newer to the game.

>>166026668
Oh, funny. His videos were the first I ever watched of hots, probably because they were, like, the literal only videos besides hero previews/spotlights. Back in preseason, anyways.

>>166026427
Yeah, just need to take whatever useful stuff you can wherever you can. Some mechanical players who stream may not speak english, Grubby may be helpful in terms of talents, picks, counterpicks and drafting in general (or perhaps not), but may not be the best when it comes to map awareness, decisions, etc.

Anyways, everything with a grain of salt.

>>166026836

>spat happens mid
>1 teammate dies
>enemy team backs goes back to lane
>molten core activates on middle fort
>doesn't hit anyone and doesnt absorb damage

Every time

>>166026941
>I'd say he's a bad team player
You're totally right, he throw many games because of this.

>>166026985
His drafting skills are really good.

>>166026815
Try out Dehaka or Zarya, anon.

I hope there's an easter egg or teaser on Valeera's screen this release

Would be coo

>>166026985

You can still get info out if his videos even though he's bronze at heart, especially if you are new to the game. He's likeable at least and when he has a good time he's fun to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sULZ2SQUbuw
I like this new spotlight

>Garrotte both poisons and silences
Now that shit just ain't fair

>>166031092
I like her spotlight if you know what I mean

by the way the animation on blade flurry looks dumb, she should do a little spin on herself instead

>>166031281

Mages beware >:3

>>166031092
>Informing people on her lore, giving straight forward strengths and weaknesses, being very thorough with her abilities, and even giving tips on how to counter her
That was actually really good. I feel like I learned a lot just from watching that. Also
>That dance scene
She shows a lot more leg than Tyrande. If her only her ass were as good.

>>166031793
>Informing people on her lore, giving straight forward strengths and weaknesses, being very thorough with her abilities, and even giving tips on how to counter her
Then been doing that for every spotlight video.

>>166031876
Probably. I dont remember the others right now.

>>166031092
Neat.

>>166031409
Yeah, I was thinking the same. Seems a tad out of place with her rather...exact kit.

>>166031092
Rushing the back line is not a good idea

>>166032238
I'd rush her backline if you know what I mean

what's correlation between this game leagues and dota mmr
how seriously quickplay/unranked mmr considered in terms of skill evaluating, does it mean anything or is it complete joke and will be laughed at if you try to brag about it

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>people are so shit at positioning, SO SHIT, that they actually convinced themselves the fucking twin fart talents on zuljin are worth taking, and AA ones are (((shit)))

>>166031092
The guy narrating the spotlights has excellent pronunciation. This shitty community doesn't deserve him.

>>166033258
Elaborate

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Support is suffering.

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>pallytime must have seen people talk shit about himnot playing ranked
>queues for ranked
>instalock murky on his team

God PTR ques suck.

Blizzard employee here. Next hero is some shitty generic edgy diablo guy with a hidden face.

>>166031092

>"ill see you in the shadows" at the end

Omg is it maeiv???

>>166034491

Diablo is already in the game

Blizzard's communal trap slut here.
Next hero is D2 druid

Blizzard janitor here, next hero is definately not Maeiv

Your uncle from Nintendo here, next hero is Luigi.

>>166033708
Everyone know the twin axe spec is useless but people on 4chan love being contrarians.

hotsg, is it worth buying Valeera for 15k and buying the bundle later on?
is it a good discount?

>>166035164

You are wrong.

>>166035287

The bundle goes away after the next hero is announced in three weeks, so no. Never buy new heroes for 15k, never ever. She will be 10k soon, don't waste gold.

>>166035416
Do you even understand what he is asking?

>>166033708
No, most people have said that the Ability Power build is fucking trash because the ult is trash.

I mean Taz'Dingo is trash as well, but at least it gets an obvious benefit. Guillotine unless you throw it while your dying does fucking nothing.

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>>166035304

Maeiv here, I'm next

>>166035287
The bundle goes down in price. I think it goes from 22 bucks to like 14 if you own the hero.

>>166035458

Saying gillotine is useless unless you are dying is the dumbest fucking meme ever.

It's like people used it once in game and couldnt hit it so they wrote it off. It's a fine ability that needs better scaling and has a skill curve, nut is not much worse than Taz'killme. It's the safer ult and synergizes with twin axe build just fine. Low pick rate does not mean bad, and the winrate of the entire build is comparable to the aa build, only that Tazdingo has a 91% pickrate for no fucking reason because people who play this game are fucking trash.

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Who to pick to win in this fucking game

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>>166035746

>>166035910
Pretending that useless build is good is the dumbest fucking meme ever.

>>166018884
they reworked almost every warrior since release, some multiple times, to try to make them relevant. it's not that they aren't working it's that what they are working isn't that well thought out to begin with. maybe adding armor helps long term, maybe it doesn't. they probably have enough money/people to keep re-inventing the wheel every year so let them put out a thousand characters and spend the next century on reworks.

they also don't really seem to care about finer balance all that much. if they are "happy" with how something feels and it isn't 100% in pro games they don't care. most of the roster can rot so long as characters "feel" right to them, while most patch changes are only going after talent pick rates and refinement with no nerf/buff intent.

>>166035910
It does fucking zero damage unless you are dead. It has nothing to do with difficulty of skill, it has to do with damage and you see that above your fucking health bar.

It's fucking terrible.

>>166036021

Someone you aren't shit with obviously

>>166031092
>Dat dance
I was not even interested in her before, now I need to fap to valeera

>>166035416
>don't waste gold
How does it feel to be internet poor?

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>>166035910
>twin axe build
again with this meme lmfao

is an ambush focused build on Valeera just a meme or can it be legit

>>166037148
I think Rich was using ambush build with cold blood and vigor.

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>>166034985
WeW

Cow King when?

>>166037148
We won't know till her bugs are fixed and she's off PTR. PTR tells you jack shit about how good a character is, it can just show you if a character is shit by their numbers.

Like Zarya, everyone screamed she was shit for a week, Blizzard said nah. She came out and was complete dog shit and they hurried to buff her because nobody was buying her.

how do you play the lost memes correctly?

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So why is leddit so salty about another warcraft character?

>>166037897
because they are delusional cucks

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>>166037340
playing other hero instead.

>>166037340
pick them sometimes on Garden of Terror

if you're playing QM; don't pick them.

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stealth team when?

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>>166037897
I prefer Warcraft Heroes myself, but there are probably more than a few people that want to see more Starcraft and Diablo. The recent releases look pretty funny, honestly.

>Warcraft (pic related)
>Warcraft (Valeera)
>Warcraft (Zul'jin
>Warcraft (Ragnaros)
>Warcraft (Varian
>Warcraft (Samuro)
>Overwatch (Zarya)
>Starcraft (Alarak)
>Diablo (Auriel
>Warcraft (Gul'dan
>Warcraft (Medivh)
>Warcraft (Chromie)

>>166038781
>Zeratul
>Nova
>Valeera
>Abathur
>Erik

Pretty spooky.

>>166038781
This is the niggest nig you can pick.

>>166039000
I want more Diablo heroes because like, 80% of the diablo characters we have aren't legitimate 'characters' from the games, they're just the character classes from diablo 2 and 3.

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Is sylvanas still good?

>>166040892
Yeah, she's excellent.

>>166040690
True, but haven't most of the Diablo class heroes been pretty okay?

>tfw only played diablo long enough to get boosted for mount
>keeping urge to go back and play because burnt out on all other bizzerd games

>>166035865
hmmm about 35% discount... It might be worth since I have nothing better to do with the gold

>>166040690
More Diablo characters would be great.
I've entertained the idea of a Followers "hero", that consists of Kormac, Lyndon, and Eirena from D3. The obvious problem holding it back, is that it'd encroach on what makes Lost Vikings unique, so it probably won't happen for a long time, if ever.

I'd just be happy with a couple more pre-Diablo 3 characters. We've gone too long without Baal and Mephisto, and Andariel or Duriel would be cool too.
I'd shit myself if any of the townspeople got in, like Griswold or something.

>want to do quests this morning against begginer ai
>no one playing, game pits me with ai on my team
>same team happened just now

dead

>>166041718
lol, I think I had this the other day

>queue for Vs. AI with human teammates
>several minutes later get into a game
>finally
>AI teammates
>...

When game so dead there aren't normies playing bots games.

Is it wrong that I want Rehgar to pound my boypucci with his sweaty orc dick.?
And then switch into wolf form and do the same?

>>166042275
No that's completely normal

Where the FUCK is Maiev????

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>>166042275
sound good.

>>166042417
Blizzard here. Have patience.

Who the fuck first picks Tracer in ranked? And then who picks Tass support but doesn't take leaching plasma?

>>166043993
Blizzard here.

Don't listen to his lies.

>Morales + another potent healer

How do you even counter that without having a specific pick like Varian?

>>166042492
SOURCE

>>166044092
Who the fuck plays ranked?

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>>166042275

>>166044092
People have been impatiently picking rexxar/tass lately in anticipation of their rework.

And they are all playing badly.

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does anyone have the pic of illidan pressing his face into tyrande's ass and smiling, I need it for a shitty photoshop

>>166044092
>get into draft
>two players named "Tracer"

>>166044292
Funny, this has happened recently in League with Warwick.

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>>166044343

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>olaf no longer gains a boost to his health regen from viking hoard
i get it, blizzard, you hate the vikings, but how the fuck do you even make a bug like this appear to begin with?

>>166041573
Are you forgetting about the Golden Rooster?

>>166044657
Some of the bugs are hilarious.

>AI Auriel will not resurrect a Murky or already revived from his Egg.

So would two Murky's be running around?

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>>166044596
u da man, have the shitty photoshop as thanks

>>166045062
is that a jewish demon hunter?

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>>166045062
Do more

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>Play Tassadar on PTR.

Is this really how they think High Templar's play in Starcraft?

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>>166044789
i mean viking hoard behaves oddly with training mode's "complete quests" thing but even then olaf plain and simple doesn't gain any healing out of it
>Gathering a Regeneration Globe with a Viking permanently increases all their Health Regeneration by 0 per second.
th-thanks
vikings rework soon? :^(

>>166045302
More shitty photoshops? If you got requests I can fufill em

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>>166045062

>>166045374
They will never rework the Vikings. They aren't popular enough and they are still strong on certain maps.

Yes I hate that they are glorified minions as well.

>>166041625
Instead of being a pack of followers, maybe it could be that they swap out tag team style?

>>166044659
I actually forgot about it...
But I've got 17k, getting 8k before the end of the even sounds reasonable

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>>166043993
>>166044116
Thank you blizz

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>>166045495
Can you do this as Medivh or Auriel

I'm sure we will get a hero who can control minions soon enough. Who would the hero be?

>>166042417
Blizzard here. What's a Maiev?

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>>166046091
Sylvanas

>>166046091
Probably Stukov or Mengsk.

>>166044659
>10k rooster
>30k steed
>10-15k valeera

Ahh, this is making me nervous.

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>>166046091

>>166044160

Stuns. Dive. Burst. Cc. Silence. Root. Focus targets.

>>166044160
Why wouldn't you just go Auriel and Rehgar.

>>166046360
since they shied away from having rag be a core replacement early on, it sounds doubtful they will try others. Rag vs the overmind would have been dank as hell tho

>>165991519

>Melee Assassin
>Doesn't do damage.

WEW WHO LET THIS THROUGH BLIZZARD'S MARKETING DEPOT

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>>166045374

>>166045601
>love Vikings ever since they were released
>have passable enough micro skills to play them effectively
>get their Master skin, the first Master skin I ever got
>they get reworked, the "Viking Hoard is now their trait" patch
>make a genuine effort to learn the new mechanics
>their new playstyle just doesn't click

Not a great feeling. I'd love another rework, but that won't happen for a goddamn long time.

>>166046835
She can absolutely delete squishes and she's going to be really strong in stun/gank comps.

>>166046835
>zeratul without an escape

i wonder how low her win rate will be

and she'll still be complained about because she'll occasionally 1-shot a li-ming who holds still for three seconds

>>166046774
They didn't like rag as a core replacement because you never controlled ragnaros himself but some kind of proxy unit, the concept could work for other characters.
I don't know anything about the overmind but I feel like it would be very cool and thematic if we had c'thun or some other old god replacing the core, whispering to the heroes and corrupting the battlefield from the base.

>>166047095
Their new playstyle is stick them in a lane and just farm xp.

Before you'd be able to do a lot more with them. and they were a credible threat in lane. They actually dumbed them down a lot. Before it was knowing when to split them, now it's about knowing when to bring them together.

>>166047129
She's a stealth hero. She's going to get her legs chopped off like Samuro. Though Samuro at least has the fact he can split push like crazy and is really good at mercing to fall back on.

All Valeera has is her CC and damage.

>>166047227
That's pretty much what the Overmind was. He was the being that controlled the Zerg.

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>>166047227
>c'thun vs the overmind
>battle of the tentacle rape

alternatively, this would actually be a cool idea for a map

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>>166047095
>tfw i began playing a couple of days before they got reworked
>tfw i never got to try them in their full glory
it hurts, anon
it hurts so much