Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

>>166134035
Well just because of that

Sudden Death edition

>What's new?
Lunar Festival next week with some new goodies and a FREE COCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oD8DrPANfw [Embed]

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Where do I find you AFK Abathur faggots?
/join /vg/

>Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20475280/weekly-sale-jan-17-24-2017-1-17-2017
>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20477656/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-jan-13-2017-punisher-arena-1-12-2017
>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20477655/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-january-17-1-17-2017

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE [Embed]

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

At least put the /vg/ channel

>>166134035
>those links are useless anyway edition
worst thread ever

Predictions
Misfits > Fnatic > Dig > Experts > Tricked > Synergy(Russians) > Diamondskin > Genius(French)

Misfits and Fnatic, Experts and Tricked and bottom 3 are all very close.

Let's go on an adventure!

17k+ first day of HGC
looks alright

If by some miracle both cores are destroyed in the exact same clock cycle, what happens? Can there be a draw?

>>166134438
>HGC
Is that the ultimate event for the esport scene where the best team is determined or some random tournament?

>>166134343
its a league so i find it really hard to say anything
a big thing thing with the league is how teams will do over time and adapt and prepare for matches and so forth

pretty sure there will be some unexpected team doing well when it matters in the final standings

>>166134035
>>166134118
you worthless retards
>Died because support refused to save them:
>>165988330

>>166134718
the game chooses one of the two at random

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>>166134718
It used to be one team lost.

Think they changed it to draws.
Pic related was a loss.

>>166134736
its new and only started today but its supposed to be
all the regions have league play throughout the week and then after a few weeks there are clash tournaments where the NA teams go against the EU ones and same for the asian regions they have a clash
there is a whole open qualifier thing going where the top teams becomes like challengers and get to face the religation teams of the league to see who stays/gets in or goes

>>166135162
>not blurring punisher portrait

dude wtf

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>>166135284
>punisher

>that one guy posting about the hgc
>tfw he has a friend now because im here
h-hi..

>>166135556
There's three of us.

Shame we get NA shitter matches now, can't wait for Fnatic vs Misfits and Tricked vs Experts

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found this picture on my harddrive

You just know Breez is a whore for his team.

Little slut gets off to being thrown around and slapped and having the shit fucked out of him like the little cocksleeve he is by his entire team.

>>166135996
Man, you're gay. Wanna meet up somewhere and let me fuck you in the ass ;)

>>166135726
im thinking the na ones can be fun in a wet and wild way

for fnatic seeing them do so well at blizzcon its always interesting to see how they will do now. many times a team will just start slacking and think they are great but i think such people wouldnt have been able to pull out that blizzcon performance so i actually have high hopes

dont know those other teams and all the namechanges is a bit weird
>superstars
>team 8
their previous names were way better

misfits played well so them vs fnatic is looking like a top dog match

>>166136212
fuck off homo, I'm only gay for attractive people

>>166136287
My dick is attractive to faggots, so come hop over on it, no homo though

>>166136249
Misfits were the ones Fnatic practiced against before Blizzcon. Pretty sure before Blizzcon Misfits were the better team and right now they should be #1 of Europe again.

NA the only ones worth a damn are Naventic, Tempo Storm and perhaps GFE. The rest are just dumpster tier.

Shame we can't see those #3-#8 embarass themselves against the #3-#8 from other regions.

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how hard is it to go from diamond 1 to master? is it the same as going from diamond 2 to diamond 1 or do you have to win more?

>>166136519
>and perhaps GFE.
They are shit since roflcopter quit the team

>>166135162
>censoring names
oh good now you won't get hacked by us 4chan hackers. good save anon you really screwed us

>gillyweed420

>>166136585

Large factor is luck. You could get lucky and climb easy or it could be hell.

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>>166136641
outplayed

>>166136619
Yeah, right now they aren't good but they might become good sometime.

>>166136585
Eh, I've only done it twice and Diamond II through (low) Masters felt pretty much the same. The biggest jump I found was after clearing Diamond III and all the bronzers who lucked out in placements.

Just keeping playing and winning, friendo.

>>166136585
It's fairly easy, the same as D2->D1

>>166136756
You missed a couple on the minimap. How do expect to protect anyone's identity with such sloppy work?

>>166136756
dude censor those stuns man, its a fking blue board

>>166136519
interesting

if it works like that its gonna sad i think it will show the power of the regions better if all are thrown together and you can easily see which region is worse
would just be funny

>>166136619
did he leave after heroes of the dorm? because that was more against amateur teams. they did break into the pro scene after which is really good desu but then things became a lot different and the dominant GFE from the dorm days we havent seen since i think

>>166135556
First time watching "esports" but I'm hoping I can learn some shit by watching. I feel pathetic watching this crap but oh well.

>>166137030
get out normie

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>snacks plays hots
i remember this guy making comics like this for diablo with the crusader
it was fun

>>166137129
Whatever fag. I think football and "real" sports are even stupider because at least esport fans play the games they watch.

>>166136925
We'll still see top 2 NA get shit on by the top 2 of every other region.

Should keep their egos in check

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>>166137030
>tfw this is my 10th year watching esports

>>166137351
tfw there used to be wc3 pro matches on tv when I was a teen

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reminder that the vikings are dead because blizzard hates olaf and broke his health regen talent

>>166137295
was so sad at the chinese gold tourney where na got rekt in 8 mins and eu at least could make a game out of it

dont think we will see that repeat, we will see way better na teams when that happens

>>166137564
Thing is Dig isn't even good right now, rip Alex but they still didn't completely get destroyed at CGC

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why is medivh so fun ?

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What should I buy?
Do they sell queues that exclude bad players?

>>166135181
I see, as much as I hate esports, let's hope it gets some decent views so this game doesn't completely die.

>>166137738
Buy the Blizzcon horse, it's gonna be removed in three days

>>166137713
>releasing heroes nobody can play

Mixed feelings, desu.

>Teams plan is to tilt Zuna and Kenma

great plan there, NA, i'm sure that's gonna really well against the koreans

also:
>NVT>TS
>NT>T8

I haven't played this in a very long time and fuck DotA and LoL, have they improved the game immensely?

>>166137713
>tfw you play on low and never saw how cool that arcane thing can look

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>>166137903
sounds like a rework is necessary
surely, nothing will go wrong

>>166138127
Uh, kind of.

Not really, though.

>>166138127
>have they improved the game immensely?
Not really, but it's slowly getting more and more polished over time. It's still better than dota and lol unless you have time to play 40 hours a week

>>166138127
depends on how long ago
its polished a lot but will still have the different play flavor they want it to be

>>166138350
Tier 13 is pretty situational but I agree with the rest.

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Sarlac when?

make starcraft heroes of the storm great again!

BigE's style is too safe to be effective with tychus here

>>166138909
This, buff Abathur

I don't understand why Tempo is always considered underdogs when they've been consistently winning in NA for months.

>>166139318
I don't think people consider them underdogs anymore

>>166139318
They like that image because it means people get hype when they're winning and they can always pull the "lol we wuz andadogz n' shiieet" if they lose.

>>166137713
>wants to try medivh on a quick meme
>queue takes forever
>every time I'm matched against a medivh

Why they does that ? It's almost impossible to try medivh in quick meme on good comps..

>>166139723
>Why they does that ?
The meme vs meme rule blizzard added to the game, meme heroes like vikings, murky, abathur and medievh get matched vs team with the same meme heroes so both teams have a handicap in their teams.

>>166137738
wait for the loot tab

>>166139071
at this point he needs a rework.

>>166139858
But Abathur is extremely good in every aspect?
That's like saying you should rework Muradin.
Like, what the hell do you want?

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>>166139723
>take it to Unranked Draft, hoping for a team comp
>hover Medivh, Azmodan, Abathur or something along those lines
>get told to go back to Quick Match

Friendly reminder to have a smurf account to practice this stuff on in Ranked. :3!

>>166139837
>30k Blizzcon mount out of nowhere
>10k (?)Rooster mount
>15k Valeera

Hm. Almost seems like we won't have to wait until Blizzcon.

>>166139723
they try to make sure that unique heroes like abathur and medivh are always mirrored in quick match so you don't get screwed by having a brand new player on your team and being at a big disadvantage. People complained about matchmaking until they implemented this

>picking Tracer INTO Varian
>no shields on your side
???

>picking Tracer into Varian
What the fuck?

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>>166140001
>But Abathur is extremely good in every aspect?

@166140219
Get your head out of your ass and your ass out of bronze first, then I'll allow you to reply to me.

>picking Tracer into Varian
you guess it right
its NA
haHAA

>>166140339
>abathur is good
>he just has a very low wr at every mmr
>and is extremely niche

Okay, you got me.

>>166140195
Brilliant.

>>166140219
Abathur can currently outdps Tassadar, he's in a good spot.

Let's take a look at Uther first, shall we?

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>that naventic comp

>insight Kharazim
meme picks all around

>>166140672
Is NA anon they know how bad they are and they are just trying to give us a good time with their meme comp/talents.

>>166140503
This desu. can't think of a hero that needs a rework more than Uther

>>166140672
???
When is insight not the best option unless youre going for dps monk?

>>166140804
It never is. It has the highest winrate in bronze, literally.
DPS if you wanna bigdick, heal if you wanna support, never go dumbass Insight.

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>be top 3 team in NA
>try to fight level 10 vs level 8

>>166140932
But I get so much mana

>>166140932
>heal if you wanna support, never go dumbass Insight.

t. bronzie

>"competitive" heroes of the storm

I just

can't

>>166141013
And you never run out of mana anyway you fucking slut, just don't go full idiot with your abilities.

>dreadnaught lets gilly give the breakdown on the replay
>cant barely keep his laughter in once shes done cuz it was so shit

>>166141084
>na hots

I just

can't

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>>166141065
>>166141132
>NA
>"competitive"

>>166141132
Yeah, actually. Can't believe people are watching this.

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>>166141065
>lemme just do nothing XD
>trust me, I'm GM I know what I'm doing XD

>>166141360
>hotslogs
>relevant at all for professional level play
choose one

tempo storm is playing good as a unit arent they?
they better after they got rekt so much recently

training to not be an angry douche is hard but I'll do it!

>>166141475
their teamplay is so good that they drafted shit against Naventic and still won

>>166141447
>Data, although it may be sampled from a small size (6k games here)

OR

>/a/nonymous hacker from the internet forum called 4chan

Nice try :P

>Murky is bad
how bronze

How's NA doing so far? Didn't watch the matches.

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>Good placements, go to Diamond 3.
>Feeling good and confident
>First non-placement match has 7 GM in it, including Domovarion on my team.

That was humbling. G-guess I'll just cry in Diamond.

>>166141475
Impressive even,
Gust to separate two heroes, followed up by Zera VP to buy 5 seconds to completely take the rest of the team apart.

Not that it was necessary, niggers had a massive level advantage and a boss at their core, lol.

>>166141769
>domovarion
who
>na

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>watching NA HGC
>the players are mostly asian

>>166141571
I believe in you, anon.

>>166141769
Is Domo n2 or n1?

>>166141695
it's more like

>Data, sampled from actual retards at every level of play across every region in the world

OR

>Professional players who get paid to understand the game who would win 100 out of 100 times against anyone sampled on hotslogs.

NVT should just copy all the highest winrate talents from hotslogs they'd probably win more games right?

>>166141961

He was #2 in my game.

>>166141769
t. Domovarian aka literally who

>>166141975
>Professional players
One snowflake picking it against a terrible fucking team, one that actually loses with a superior draft, is not the norm.

Unless you wanna tell me you're the pro doing that, go drop that profile then onii-senpai, wanna have a laugh here. If not, I won and no reply will change that ;)

>>166142093
>He was #2 in my game.
Fucking Chu manage to hold his n1 title.

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looking at League LCS right know; why is our production value so far behind?
Blizz needs to do more

>>166141065
>picking insight
nice wood

>>166142297
Because there is no money to be made from hots because it's a dead game. I'm honestly suprised they are still doing tournaments, I guess it's to save face

>>166142193

>Zarya, Varian, Medivh, Malf, Li ming
>superior draft
opinion discarded

>>166142363
Fuck off, I'm arguing with him right now.

You'll make it look like I'm resorting to samefagging.

>>166142297
>blizz needs to do more

Why, though? They already have the bulk of what they're going to get, considering the current state of the game.

>>166142436
it's because they know the game is decent and it barely costs them anything to run these leagues

>>166142297
Is this actually a question?

Throwing money at making the tournaments shinier isn't going to get more people to play the game.

>na facechecks

>>166143532
>na facechekks
>na team wipes
>na dps races

>NA hots

>lose the whole game
>get 2 kills in late game
>win

nice game blizzard

>>166144385
It's like almost every other moba ever!
Amazing!

My only complaint is that i've had enough of these commercial breaks. We've all seen these heroes trailers, no need to keep shoving them in our faces

>>166144385
>lose the whole game but only slightly so when the enemy team fucks up big time you can come back and win

>>166144385
>feed early game
>barely scratch by every fight
>finally lose one and lose the game
Woooooow, dying makes you lose, why did no one write this in the manual?

>>166144434
Not DotA. You need far more than 2 kills late-game if you're behind all game. HotS is by far the most extreme in this regard.

>>166144618
Barely behind all game. Nvt got a good number of picks early on and only fell behind a bit during the mid phase.

>>166144618
You only lose from one teamfight if you were either not that far in the lead or if you fuck up really really bad. Both options it's deserved

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Why is this allowed?

>dont play lol because suck at cs
>play ragnaros
>its lol all over again
>take forever to finish quest
>feel ashamed

>>166144618
buyback pls go

>na shotcalling
>5 people clumped up in a sancti
>they know theres a guldan next to them
>they do nothing

>>166146545
I'm more impressed by the lack of ragnaros respec tin both europe and na.

>na shotcalling
>"lets give them this camp literally for free"

>>166146670
Teams that aren't Dignitas in EU banned him.

>Remember when Lunara was in the meta?

????

>>166146228
>cs quest talents

Baby steps. We'll get there eventually.

>>166146228
>take forever to finish quest
Geez I wonder why

lmao

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>Come back, people still letting Rag get picked.

>>166146948
Maybe somebody said that about Nazeebo's farm talent.

wtf where they thinking with that last push?

>>166147128
>Globe talents and Vile Infection on maps where you can't really lane

Can get a bit sketch.

>>166146936
She actually was for a short while. I think it was a little before the Tychus rework. She was one of the best tank killers in the game, and really good on any push map.

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>>166146936
Wasn't she, though? I could've sworn seeing her quite a bit some time ago.

>>166147326
Yeah, that might've been it.

>>166146030
>rawr :3

>>166146228
>throw W into wave
>go in with E
>Q right after
>instant 4 stacks for Q quest

???

>3 tank
What is this, Overwatch?

Welp... I'm beginning to see why it's Sgt Hammer free week and zero people are playing her. What a lackluster hero.

>>166136756
delete this I feel unsafe

>Rag wasn't banned or picked.

What?

>>166148251
>take structures for free until platinum where (some) people have a minimap
>lackluster

Eh.

>>166148251
delete this

3 years later and people still fall for the throw pit

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

>>166148543
>beats bad players
I am you could just git gud and this applies to any hero.

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>leoric in this comp

>>166149709
It's for the Entomb, Expulsion Zone meme.

tomster is fucking bad lol

>>166149957
that's a meme? what does it do, get you stuck and permastunned?

>>166149957
they just did it lol

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>>166150187
>That great Medic play.

literally le dying doesnt matter man

>>166150236
It pushes them against the walls of entomb over and over again keeping them in place. Same with Butcher's Lamb to the Slaughter.

chu8 my hotdoges up next
chuW are we hype?!? finally time for the dankest memes haHAA

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>>166150393
>pushes them against the walls

>>166150358
He's pretty much the reason they won. Every fight that went his team's favor was because of Entomb.

When Entomb didn't hit they didn't win.

>>166150516
>no chu8

dead team

>>166150579
chu8 chu8 chu8
alive team VoHiYo
warm up those hotdoges boys

>>166150520
>Stuck in a narrow corridor with Zarya and a giant skeleton man while they push you against the wall

>>166150263
>play rexxar
>provide no peel
>do no damage

l m a o
m
a
o

I've never watched a HotS stream in my life. I didn't realize they were so LOL XD MEMES!!!!

>>166151164
Welcome to streamers in general. Hate that shit.

>>166151164
most of the casters and analysts (with the exception of dreadnaught and grubby) have no clue what they're talking about so they have to find some way to seem relevant

>>166151164
Mute the stream and turn on your favorite music, it's a much better viewing experience

>Legolegens: 250,000
>Hots of storm: 15,000

good grief

>>166151164
Literally mute the stream unless they have one of the few good casters, lmao.

>viewbotting streamer decides to keep streaming to make more money instead of going pro

shocked desu

>>166151591
>not enjoying a small comfy community

>Glau Medivh.

When you think he loses the Master's Touch stacks?

>>166151604
why would chu need to viewbot

>>166151884
>why would somebody who streams hots need to viewbot

hm

>>166151961
>4k average watcher daily

hm

>>166152046
>less than a tenth of what some real moba streamers get

good for him though i guess

>>166151961
why would a living moba legend need to viewbot

>>166151884
I don't know the guy so I have no idea. Maybe he just desperately wanted to be a streamer. Just because he did it doesn't necessarily mean he needed to do it.

Blizzard viewbots these HGC streams, riot viewbots their LCS streams. They definitely don't need to but they do it anyway.

>Glau fucking up again.

My boy.

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>glaurong on med

>>166152531
>lose every single promo match because someone on team thinks they're the one person who can make a shit hero good
>stuck in plat 2 forever

>'both teams playing well enough to win"

wat

>>166153795
>Sylvanas says fuck the portal I'm good here.

Is this Hero League?

I remember I heard that mathematically insight is better because you get to spend your healing ability.

I mean, healing on basics is healing but it isn't like insight doesn't contribute to more healing.

I haven't done it myself though.

>>166155170
I honestly hate Transcendance. Insight just -FEELS- so much better to me. The only good argument against Insight that I've heard is that because it's a quest talent, you aren't getting value from it for a while. However, this has never been a problem for me. So I'm not sure.

>>166155170
Insight gives you way more versatility and better aoe healing.

>>166152526
chu was the face of hon esports and a big deal in LoL too

he simply doesnt need to viewbot

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Trade Prince Gallywix fucking when?

>>166155326
>>166155305
So what explains the pick rates even in higher leagues? People just remembering it being worse?

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>>166155367
>hon esports
never heard of it
>a big deal in LoL too
false

>>166155367
then why does he beg for donations so much?

>rager whispers you post game
>(insert insult here) grow the fuck up (insert insult here)
>try to reply
>You have been ignored
?

>>166156259
>>166155367

Is HoN still alive?
I've been curious but you never hear about it anymore.

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QM, enemy have 3 stealth heroes. Our Malfurion pick innervate at lvl 1.

>>166156420
They can't handle the reply so they block or report you for abusive chat before you can reply

>>166156635
About as dead as hots

>>166156420
Yeah, happens every single time. They're all like that.

>have sylvanas
>take the long way around to the core instead of disabling a keep
NA "pros" everyone

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>wonder how come people can be as stupid to say shit like `aa zuljin is garbo, go le ability power`
>reminded that hotsg also claims insight is better

my bad senpaitachi, i forgot who im talking to

>>166155835
Transcendence is the safer pick because it gives you a boost in healing from lvl 1, insight doesn't get really good till you complete the quest.

Honestly I think Transcendence is his weakest level 1 talent.

>>166156829
So actually playable. interesting. I was expecting it to be as dead as Guardians of Middle Earth

>>166157231
He's joking, HoN is a ghost town. Think Battleborn, but probably worse.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU WIN PROMOTIOM MATCHES IF THEY KEEP GIVING YOU MAXIMUM FEEDER IDIOTS ON YOUR TEAM

>>166155835
Likely that, mixed with no confidence in their ability to finish the quest fast enough, or peer pressure, as a lot of people do tend to just rush in to fight over absolutely nothing, and people recognize this and feel they need Transcendence to keep up with repeated skirmishes, even though it's the wrong thing to do.

Also too, people plan on constantly attacking something in a fight, and think this translates to constant sustained heals, but in practice that's not really the case. Another thing people overlook about Insight is the mana returns, this allows you to be in a position where you rarely ever have to hearth, so you're out in the field MUCH more, sometimes permanently if you're good enough about putting it to use.

>>166157540
>he fell for the HL meme

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>insight has the lowest winrate in all the leagues except silver

really activates the almonds

>>166156641
Who is this cock sock?

>glau is "good" in NA

>>166157961
Rebecca from Resident Evil 0

>>166157941
Who the fuck even thinks this is good?!

Nobody ever picks that shit in HL at GM/Masters, I only see it when I get some bronzie or platfag in UD. And here's some goldfags arguing this garbage talent is good.

Don't make your entire early game shit if you're a healer. Don't pick the talent that makes you lose so bad you can't come back.

>>166157540
be good enough and carry feeder

>north american professional heroes of the storm

>ragnaros is going to be nerfed because of the meme esports

feels bad

>first red shittter team doesn't give the camp up when it's a comeback mechanic for blue shitter team
>then blue shitter team pushes mid keep-wall with fort still up when diablo is about to come back and they're 14vs16
Every retard could shotcall better than those fucks

>ragnaros spam his stun when noone is in range
>diablo pull them to him
>sutn is on cd

kek fucking na

Why is Ragnaros so imbalanced? I don't watch shitsports.

>>166157941
>>166158190
Your right I should be picking Iron Fist since it has the highest pick rate and win rate.

Thank you for pointing me in that direction.

>>166158957
>amazing waveclear
>amazing d
>really strong teamfight
>insane burst on his r
Gee I wonder

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>Medivh Winrates

>>166158957
Probably still just too good at everything.

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>>166158957
>Insane Burst.
>Insane Sustain.
>At lvl 13 gets a talent that makes it impossible to kill him.
>2 ultimates.
>Can just completely make objectives useless with his trait.
>Bullies almost everyone out of lane.

The Firelord doesn't fuck around.

>>166159470
>A hero that requires your team to know how to play with you has a shit win rate.

What did you expect?

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>Its a lose 5 games in a row Episode

So what are they hitting next on Rag? Overall damage?

>>166159895
They're deleting him from the game and replacing him with a murky skin.

>>166159895
Get rid of that fucking lvl 13 talent that gives him 50% damage protection whenever you stun him. He already has insane sustain why does he need that?

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>>166159948
What the fuck.

>>166159895
Reduce Q damage
Reduce all the damage from MC skills
Increase the number of minions from 30 to 50

>>166159895
put a big ass cooldown on his wave clear ability

you should have to think when you use that shit, not just spam it off cooldown to get as many bullshit clears as possible in 1 match

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>>166159979

>>166160115
t. bronze

>>166158957
Everything everyone already said and
>TWO
>ULTIMATES

He is op
But "pro" teams refuse to ban him

>>166160157
t. no argument just ad hominem

>>166160218
And the team with him usually wins. Imagine that. In fact I don't remember seeing Rag lose at all today.

>Tfw Zul'jin, Greymane, Gul'dan and Ragnaros are the only Assassins you like

So Rag is getting nerfed, now I have to fucking hope nobody bitches about Gul'dan or else I'm all out of consistently viable fucking Assassins. Stupid assholes.

>>166160239
Lava wave isn't the reason he's strong. The hammer is far better.

Changing the wave does exactly nothing to him except maybe make shitters pick the better ult.

>>166160335
Gul'dan is getting picked more than Kael. Blizzard really likes Kael. Expect to see a Gul'dan nerf and a Kael buff soon.

>>166160335
Gul'dan is OP too in case you didn't know

>>166160335
>tfw you don't care anymore because a rogue wow is coming

I'm a qm shitter and she's perfect for me.

>>166160465
>>166160525
Oh okay yeah, it figures. They really love to shit all over anyone I actually like. These devs are the absolute worst.

>>166160671
>only likes op heroes
>why is blizzard shitting on the heroes I like
Hmm...

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>>166160837
>Zul'jin and Greymane.
>OP.

>>166160889
They are in Bronze, which is the only league that Blizz cares about

>>166160889
If they weren't you wouldn't like them

>>166160837
Gul'dan was a favorite the second he was released, Ragnaros I didn't care for until I bought him out of increased boredom with the game, turned out to find him incredibly fun, mostly because of his trait.

And my two absolute favorites in the game are Gazlowe and Rexxar, so don't give me that shit.

>>166160371
I didn't say it was the reason he's strong, I just said increase the cooldown so people put thought into using it

>>166161070
>rexxar
>not op
Have a 70%+ winrate with him on 3.4k mmr

>>166160335
could be worse, your favorite heroes could be Hammer and Gazlowe

:^(

>>166160157
Can be said for every "rag is OP! ;_;" post.

>>166161327
Yeah, he's OP. That's why he works in absolutely every single comp on every single map. It's not like he requires certain conditions to work at as optimal a level as most other Warriors, and why he's a definite go-to in coordinated games, or "E-sports".

>their favourite heroes aren't Tyrael, Anub and Arthas

>>166161562
No, only for those who think Lava Wave is what's OP about him.

He's obviously slightly too strong.

>>166161589
>Nigger
>Useless beetle
>Useless and ugly

>>166161836
>tyrael is black
>anub is useless
>arthas is useless

>>166161886
good job man you got it

>>166161886
>Tyrael happened to have a dark skin color when he rescinded his immoratality
>Anub'arak has difficulty fitting in during quick match and pub games
>Arthas's roots are fine but his lack of mobility for how close he needs to be to the enemy team is not

>>166162119
>Tyrael
That's just some shitty fanfiction, he's an angel. Angels don't have skin and if he had skin it would be pale white.
>Anub
>qm
He fits in pub games, just a niché pick but a very strong one and real good alltogether.
>Arthas
He's amazingly strong. Even against non dive comps he's really good.

>>166162119
>Tyrael happened to have a dark skin color when he rescinded his immoratality in the poorly written sequel that everybody agrees was just terrible and thus everyone ignores it and gives absolutely no fucks about it. Except...

... HE'S A NIGGER! A NIGGER A NIGGER A NIGGER! A NIGGGEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR! IT'S A NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNIIGGGEEEEEERRRR!

>>166158190
>He cant punch 300 times by just spending a few minutes punching minions and towers while sustaining himself with his heals and infinite mana
Kharazim is made to punch, healing is his second job

>>166162351
I dont recall Tyrael being a devil though, so why would he be white?

>>166162119
>Tyrael happened to have a dark skin color when he rescinded his immoratality
Bait.
>open up D3
>find tyrone
>he's black
>sounds black
>has black facial features/structure
Makes you wonder.

>>166160972
Sort of surprised they haven't found a way of buffing Heroes like Abathur, Medivh and the like down in the depths of Bronze and Silver.

30% wr is a rough go

I hate how this game is literally just pub heroes

>>166162661
Medivh would really be hard to balance for that.

>>166162661
I remember at Blizzcon in some interview with I think it was a streamer, one of the devs said they don't want to touch Medivh because doing ANYTHING to him would ruin him in one way or another. He's amazing when you have a team that can coordinated, he's terrible if you don't have that and are actually bad at him. To change anything would tip him too far one direction and they just don't want to do that.

>>166162661
Blizzard response to medivh was "he's not for shitters".

>>166163120
that's what they said about fucking Kerrigan too though

>>166162724
what do you mean?

>>166163120
aka they don't know what to do with Medivh and since he's not causing problems he doesn't get changed

>>166163569
All I ever see are heroes that are fotm and go with anything. Li ming, Rag, Varian, Diablo, Thrall, etc. It feels like I only ever see 12-14 different heroes.

Hey any qts here

>>166164282
It's sort of like this in every game, although I'm sure it's worsened by our rather limited roster.

>>166163120
>>166163180
Yeah, fair enough, and the data might be off. Still, is it okay to just have heroes sitting down at 30-35% until Diamond-Masters? Not much point in worrying about this, I suppose.

>>166164282
Yeah, pretty much. It's always been like that, except the number of heroes has risen because they've added more heroes.

They refuse to do anything to any hero that is undertuned. Like I've heard a lot of complaints for a while now, about how shitty Zagara feels compared to her old self, and s even a slight numbers buff would help, but nope, they do absolutely nothing. It's puzzling why they don't simply do just small incremental buffs if they're so afraid to do big drastic things.

>>166162119
>Tyrael
>Anub'arak
>Arthas

I fucking hate streamers so much.

>>166166524
Same

Is there e-sports going on?

I keep seeing people with portraits that say "WATCHED AN E-SPORTS GAME IN 201-WHATEVER" but I don't really get how that works if the HotS client doesn't have spectating.

>>166166524
Then don't watch them you assfucker.

I don't like gay people, so I don't go suck their dicks.
See? Everyone's happy.

>>166166678
Why would I be happy you don't suck my dick

>>166166678
I'm not watching their streams retard, this is the 3rd game I lost this week because those fags are too busy reading chat and throw the game.

>>166166678
Yea but what if a gay faggot is sucking dick right next to me?

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Name a more handsome hero that Kinky.
You can't

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ayyy win 3 games

>>166167426
>sabotage yourself with Murky picks
>complain about loss rates
You're only doing this to yourself.

>>166167426
>losing with murky
how?

>>166167426
>not just afking bots games on slug

hm

>>166167646
tracer+aba one game
was a fairly close game first murky match doe

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>>166167269
Best ass in the game.

>>166167646
>Playing againts tychus or tracer.

>>166167646
>He plays against any Assassins made after the game's release

Murky melts to everything now, how the fuck would he not lose as Murky? The only works against horrible players.

Does /hotsg/ have a low frustration tolerance?

>>166168246
>he plays octograb
found the pleb

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>>166141360
whats the reasoning behind insight being bad?
i dont play kharazim alot, so asking you guys that are arguing here.
wouldnt the cdr and mana be good for sustained healing? how much more/less would one be able to heal by autoattacking with transcendence and healing through increased cdr/mana with insight?

>>166169634
Hotslog. That is why. It's the only reason they have. But going by there numbers just go Iron Fist every time. It's got the highest pick rate and the highest win rate.

>>166168376
If we did, then we wouldn't be here.

>>166168396
I wasn't even talking about Octograb, just in general he can't stand anything anymore, it's crazy.

>>166169634
I have seen several pro players saying it takes too much time to complete and the value that you can get from it is out weighted by the value you get from IF and the healing one.

>>166169634
There is no legit reason, some people just can't pull it off, and those who can pull it off well. It's not a talent that's for everyone, Transcendence is the safer more "Pick this and don't think about it" option of the two, whereas Insight requires you to change up how you play him a little bit.

>>166169887
MOBA pro players always stick to last year's memes and pub builds until proven otherwise because sticking to the old meta is always a safe bet.

They're not better informed than any of us are.

Okay, who fucking wrecks Varian? I'm so fucking sick of that parrying faggot in EVERY GAME.

>>166169996
not really

I'm fucking uninstalling this shit. Holy fuck the hero pool is fucking shit right now

>>166170285
>now
How so? It's only getting larger and overall better.

>>166169806
Not really, some people are just lonely and boring or both.

>>166169834
Well you do have a bubble. Your job isn't to stay and deal consistent damage in team fights anyways, even though you're good at that. It's about being a cunt.

>>166169957
Yeah I really like insight. I just make sure to stack it up every chance I get by constantly AAing.

>>166170340
EVERY. FUCKING. GAME.
Rag, Varian, Li-Ming, Zarya, Thrall, Diablo, Malf, ETC, the same stupid fucking shit EVERY GAME. Oh, this is the part of the game where Rag does his stupid shit! Oh, this is the part of the game where Varian never FUCKS OFF and gets spam healed by Malf! Oh, this is the part - Like every game is the exact god damn same stupid shit.

>>166169996
"Pro" players just stick to what's absolutely most safe, and you're right, they're generally not better informed than any of us are when it comes to talents and just general tidbits here and there. Especially so for HotS, "Pro" players only excel in playing in groups, being coordinated with one another, without that, they're just normal good players and not "Pros".

So while they may very well state that the value you get from IF and Transcendence outweighs that of Insight, they're speaking clearly from a point of view of one who is used to playing organized games. In a normal game between just normal people and not "Pro teams", you cannot expect the rules to stay the exact same, you're even given more wiggle room as to what is acceptable and what isn't. Insight is perfectly fine.

>>166170064

idk i see a lot of heroes of picked. even stupid shit that i dont even want to see like nova and zagara

>>166170064
He's a necessary evil. There's a lot of annoying shit that Varian flat out takes care of.

>>166171741
So, what takes out Varian? You can't just have a counter hero that has no counter

>>166172020
But that's where you're wrong, kiddo.

literally why play kerrigan? she is so bad

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>mfw people speaking bean try to get salty

is zul`jin good?

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Stressful game, Thisigia.

Also shame on you for 5-stacking QM. Pussies.

>>166173529
>playing without a bunch of friends

how do they do it

>>166173749
Well it's easy for me, I hate people, so I don't have any friends, and I like it like that.

>>166172760
Yes and no, he's countered by... everything that counters everyone else. Stuns and burst. Except he has the disadvantage of also being completely stopped by Blinds.

He puts out some of the best damage in the game, but he's too easy to deal with. So he's GOOD, but not great.

Who has the worst alternate skin colors?

I'd vote Tychus.

>Playing against a group of people that saw Jimmy gets cooldown reduce of Hyperion for Samuro clones dying.
>Every fight Jimmy drops two Hyperions because of instead of just fixing it they decided to tell everyone about it and leave it in the game for another week.

Fuck you Blizzard.

>>166175620
literally Tyrae

Imperius or Malthael when btw?l

I get mvp in 80% of my games.

How does this transition into improving my life?

>>166175620
LiLi and Chen
LiLi's basic skin is terrible enough, with "12-year-old-draws-anime" hairstyle and single color "pink highlighter" outfit, but her tints give her even worse choice between "road worker green" and "pimp's nighwear gold"
And Chen's tint just push his red or green slider a bit, which with him being mostly black just changes the color of his jacket buttons. And also removes the fire pattern from his keg.

When/what maps would you take odin over the laser drill on tychus /vg/?

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>>166177907
ODEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
GIB AGES NAO

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>>166178024

>playing some nova in QM
>enemy team can always see me through stealth
>my team can never see the enemy nova through stealth
>team doesn't do lanes past level 10
>nazeebo probably didn't even have 50 stacks

>>166178545
>Play QM
>Never win with a Nova on your team
>People for some reason think it's a fantastic idea to go off and be alone post-10 when the enemy team has a Nova.

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JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL

>playing nova
>end up with 65k siege and 25k hero damage
>constantly using orbital on 3-4 waves worth of minions before they reach a keep/fort
This is why I usually play specialists or someone with good aoe

>>166178829
dank crop m80

>>166178829
>Have consistently done well on Kharazim, carried a lot of games
>Figure what the hell, I like his Master enough
>Buy Master, stat using it
>Suddenly I'm getting the most retarded absolutely unsavable fucking players on my team, people who are so adamant that trying to do boss as they're all up and missing from the map, for example
>Haven't won a game since I bought the Master

Fucking Blizzard.

>>166177907

I take laser drill on maps where it's easy to tuck it behind something, or placed on an objective. On a big open map like Warhead I take Odin.

p.s. I'm bad

>>166177907
Pick drill if they have any competent dive/engage at all.
That shit punishes Illidan hard, for example.
It's really good on static objectives, i.e. Braxis, Dragonshire, where your opponent either goes in and eats the damage, or potentially completely forfeits the objective.

If you have confidence in your frontline, and you need bigdick damage right now?
Odin. Hits like a brick.

>>166156259
>never heard of it

that's because you're a casual newfag