/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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Why does no one appreciate the shotel / moonlight curved sword?

Will Phil oneshot Kalameet?

I want to make a character for mid level invasions, primarily Irithyll.
What kind of build would I need?

>>165956698

Dragonslayer axe build

>>165956563
>shotel
in ds3 it's an inferior carthus shotel which is an inferior corvian scythe
>moonlight curved sword
virtually one of the worst weapons in ds3 because it's reminiscent of crystal ring shield, worst shield in ds1

>>165956563

They're both only 'alright' curved swords that have objectively better options in every way. Shotel is outdamaged and outranged by Carthus Shotel rendering it obsolete. Crescent Moon Sword needs a 40/40 DEX/INT build optimally and its AR even for a split damage weapon is subpar with the WA beam being goof for jackshit.

>>165956452
I always wonder what they look like under the armors.

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Xth for /ourguy/

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>>165956698

Are whips the worst weapons in DaS3?

Everytime I play DS3 feels like the first time I played DS1/DS2.

What the fuck is wrong with me that I can't internalize how to git gud at an area as simple as the high wall?

>>165956971

As a class on average I would say yes. Individually I'd say Soldering Iron and Great Wooden Hammer are still far worse.

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>>165956936

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>>165956936
pontiff a sex

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>>165957106
>implying you can defeat my Stand, Shifty Stunts for Scant Shekels
>implying i haven't just retreated to a safe dimension across the multiverse
You're in for a surprise in DLC2, faggot.

>>165956698
Since invading is built for you to invade upwards, I wouldn't go passed sl40-45. I can't say I have a build in mind for you to try but I felt the need to remind you not to overlevel.

>>165956452
Damn I love the design of the Ruin Sentinels, I like so many designs from Dark Souls 2, how these can coexist in the same game with Shrek, Belltower Gnomes and the Covetous Demon is beyond my comprehension.

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>>165956936
Praise be our pontifex supreme!
>>165957352
>not Dark Side of the Moon

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UNDEAD UNDEAAAAAD

>invited to a hacker group because the host was lagging so much I back stabbed them as they were running around

kek

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>>165957485
>tfw zombie dino dragonriders got scrapped
>>165957898
>tfw no more conquistador/gladiator garden gnomes speaking in shitty rhymes
I really wish covenants weren't as rushed in 3.
McDonalds could've probably said a couple of interesting things, DaS3 really doesn't have enough talking covenant leaders.

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>>165958319
>trapfags STILL this mad

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>>165957250

>>165957352
>Shifty Stunts for Scant Shekels
is this an actual song or is it just a funny way to say dirty deeds done dirt cheep?

>>165958743
i wonder if he really doesn't have a face

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pcfc?

>>165958319
>wasn't even a hornet riposte
jesus fuck

>>165958850
The mask IS his face
Sexy face that is

>>165958854
if scholar then yes

>>165958786
You mean Malicious Machinations Made More Affordable?
Or Filthy Feats Furnished for Less?
Atrocious Acts at Agreeable Rates?
Bilious Bastardy Brought Budget-Friendly?
Sinister Shenanigans Sold for Small Sums?
Evil Escapades Executed Economically?
Nefarious Notions Negotiated at Negligible Prices?
Rancid Revolutions Realized Really Inexpensively?

>Phil oneshot Kalameet

>>165959243
Sure, tier 45 SL, let's go!

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>>165958319
Holy shit

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>checking whether I can safely change my name in DaS3 using CE
>find a post on the actual thread for the table asking much the same
>Some retard comes in with "NO YOU GET SOFTBAN UNFORTUNATELY."
why are people like this allowed to live

>>165959449
*killed on first try

>class starts 2 levels past an attunement slot and 2 levels behind one

Using mercenary with great magic weapon and sharp twinblades, is great soul arrow worth the two attunement points? I'd assume it's at least useful if you're a support phantom, but I doubt it packs much a punch without scaling.

>>165959704
no, it's not gonna be useful if you're dex with support sorcery

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>>165959676
>looking for answer
>get answer
>retard

>>165959704
>great soul arrow
No, get Hidden Body, Spook, or Chameleon.

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Is he the most overrated npc of the souls games ?

>>165959823
>>165960027
I guess I'll just throw on chameleon, now I won't need resin or branches. Why use spook? Don't rings for that exist?

And I can't cast hidden weapon and a buff at the same time, can I?

>>165959849
>implying changing your character/save name has EVER been a softban trigger

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>>165960247
He's good but it was over the moment normies got their grubby hands on him. I know a few normies who play souls and they're all incredible shitters at it yet they act like they're skilled super-fans. Can't even get through the game without summons yet walks around with a "le praise the sun!!!" shirt, etc.

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>tfw getting genuinely spooked by listening Greatwood theme
holy shit ds3 ost is awesome

>>165960247
No, he's the most powerful. He's a living meme, and will never as long as those memes live on through every player.

How do i get into invasions /dsg/ ? Im level 67 right now.

I wanted to get into low level invading around settlement but im not sure how i would accomplish finishing the game at SL20.

>>165960680
"will never die" is what I meant. Meh I screwed it up.

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>>165960635
>Abyss Watchers theme

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>>165959497
Please use the correct one.

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>>165960905
>Pontiff's theme

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>>165960375
Then why are you asking dumbass

>>165960819
You get good.
It's not as hard as it sounds, SL20 is enough to have the stats for some weapons + alright VIG for that level. With decent mid/late-game armour you won't actually take as much damage as you'd expect. Just gotta remember to sippy if you take a bad hit because you don't have the health pool to tank more than one or two hard slaps from most later-game bosses.

>>165960293
>Why use spook? Don't rings for that exist?
Because spook does the same thing as if you had 2 different rings equipped at the same time, slumbering dragoncrest and cat ring. If you use spook when you need fall damage reduction you can put more important rings on instead.
>And I can't cast hidden weapon and a buff at the same time, can I?
Hidden body is what you should use. In dks 3, it makes you almost completely invisible even with phantom colors. If you wear untrue dark ring for host colors and cast it, you can walk right up to people and they won't see you a lot of the time

>DSP says he'll become the dark lord by extinguishing the flame
>Sets himself on fire again

BUGGED CYCLE MECHANICS

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>>165961172

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>>165961043
You got me there. I just like to be cautious.

>>165961240

>still watching dsp

hes so irrelevant people don't even want to invade him

let it go

>>165960878
>Miyazaki was leading the development of Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 simultaneously, and I think that when doing so, some of his ideas for Bloodborne leaked into Dark Souls 3.

No, he was working on Bloodborne and Dark Souls 2 DLC simultaneously. By the time Dark Souls 3 started development, he was no longer actively participating as a designer but was just directing/overseeing as company president.

>Look at the combat for Dark Souls 3. It's pretty fast paced, with attacks coming out fairly quickly compared to previous souls games, perhaps barring Demon's Souls. Rolls also are swift and doesn't have too many recovery frames. Healing is kind of fast as well.

>The biggest thing that stuck out to me was, as you pointed out, the enemies. They're incredibly fast, even being able to start up attacks and hitting you during your own attack animation depending on your weapon.

>The main problem with this is that Bloodborne was (for the most part) balanced around the rally mechanic and healing the damage you took in order to maintain an extremely fast paced, fluid combat system. Dark Souls 3 lacks this mechanic, yet retains some of the speed of Bloodborne.


Dark Souls 3 runs on the same game engine (physics and graphics) as Bloodborne. That's where the similarities come from. Bloodborne was designed for Bloodborne Dark souls 3 took that and modified it to fit dark souls game mechanics.

>>165961172
I love that ring, Its hilarious when an Invader uses it with the hidden body spell and just run right up to you thinking you dont notice them, makes for an easy kill.

>>165961347
>invade on 360
lel

>>165961240
/ourguy/ is truly a legend

>>165961172
Still a shame hidden weapon is so dissapointing. You lose it when you switch weapon too, seems to defeat the whole purpose. Would be funny to poke with an invisible toothpick only to suddenly throw out a greathammer swing.

>>165961121
What SL is advisable for farron keep invasions?

>>165961259
>>165961412
does it at least throw off mobs?

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>>165960993
>phase two kicks in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX0cvtjKt9E
Couldn't have picked a better theme for the trailer.

>>165961347
iirc he's offline

>>165961567
I'd say 20-25 but if you want to guarantee a very high amount of activity, 20. And since people start finding a lot of shards at that point in the game I'd like to think you could take your weapon up to +4 (+2 for special stuff) but for safest stay at +3 (+1 for special stuff).

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>>165961259
Why cant i stop laughing.

>>165960247
I wouldn't say overrated, really. I mean, it's subjective but I think Solaire was a pretty well realized character and had a good and proper story arc that has a good and a bad end. Solaire, Eileen and Hawkwood are probably my favorite Soulsborne npcs in terms of how their character story arcs are executed.

As far as overrated things go, Pontiff is vastly overrated meme character that boils down to essentially "Fume Knight but fast". I like Pontiff tho' because he's the closest to being a Souls Hitler but he's overrated as hell in this general.

>>165957898
Originally that guy was supposed to be Lucatiel's comical sidekick.

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>>165960993
>1st phase music

>>165961347

He's more relevant than Oro's 200 twitch watchers

>>165961471

I want to see him DeS now.

>>165957835
>griffith poster

kek

>>165958946
If i pull that off will he die?

>>165960819
>finishing the game at SL20
you don't have to finish the game, you just have to kill gundy for the prisoner's chain and get the red eye orb. you don't even need to kill greatwood or reach the crucifixion woods.

>>165961373
People who say that DS3 takes the most after BB have probably not played DeS. DS3 is DeS 2.0 while BB is DaS 2.0.

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>>165960993
>Champ Gundyr's theme

>>165961830
???
I get settlement invasions as a 26, you can probably at least go to 36 in the keep.

>>165962132
You might not have to "finish the game" but getting really really far will allow you to have access to a lot of things and very importantly a ton of estus and if you also take the time have them at +10. I mean just to get the prisoners chain you have to get passed dancer, ocieros, and gunder which are kinda into the game a bit. And if you're crazy like me, you get passed ds armor and into the archives for that avelyn/exploding bolts.

>>165962072
It would be extremely painful

>DarksydePhil: yes, i woudln't be against another demons souls run. i really liked that game

DEMON'S SOULS REDEMPTION WHEN?

>>165962294
Well you gotta remember when invading, it only looks for players below your level by a couple and the rest of the invasion range is upwards. I'm not doubting you get invasions at settlement at sl26 but you'll get even more if you're willing to factor in invasion ranges.

>>165962447
You're a big sorcerer

>>165962620
I'm getting them at the front gate of all places though. Even as a deprived, if you kill the lizaird and all the mooks in your way, you should be sl 13 by the time you enter highwall (tested this but I think I used the soul starting item). By the time someone kills vordt they should have at least tacked on another 10 levels. 26 can invade down to 23.

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Invading bosses is so much fun, and the best part is it punishes summonbads while almost completely ignoring solo players. To all you fags who go around with 3 phantoms and throw out seeds, pic related. You had this shit coming to you.

How good is the dragon form in DS3?

I've never once seen anyone use it, summoner or invader.

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>>165961909
>As far as overrated things go, Pontiff is vastly overrated meme
He only has that kind of following on /v/ and /vg/. Pretty much noone's memeing him outside of this cesspool of degenerates.
>character
Souls characters are pretty shit in general. Can you name something remarkable about Orny aside from him being a knight and killing a couple of dragons? Or Arty, excluding that part where he's just a phony raped by demon cock? Or Sif, who was designed precisely to be a cheap not-Hachiko tearjerker? The best kind of characters are those that talk during the fight, like Micolash or Oceiros.
At least Sulyvahn did more than just thing, kind of.
>essentially "Fume Knight but fast"
That's not half bad, although I would add that his second phase is more like a Darklurker. And he also was not a bad boss.
And the clone mechanic is pretty good, but they really should've made it invulnerable and faster.
Ponty wishes he had Reimu's winrate tho.

>>165963285
Bad. You suffer the flat penalty of having no armor this time around and gain a lightning weakness.

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>>165963285
It's bad, because you take extremely high amounts of damage. You become very, very squishy, no matter how much Vigor you have pumped. The stones are all bad except the basic roar, which is good at breaking shields, which people normally don't know and thus don't expect.

>>165963449
Now I want to kill nameless king using the dragon form.

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Is STR viable/fun? I fancy doing another character for PvE/PvP but the only 2 BIG WEPON things on the chart that aren't listed as shit are yhorms and the greatclub.

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>>165961259
>that short pause before casting
Still a good chuckle.

>>165963535
Are you seriously asking if STR is viable?

Of course it's viable.

>>165963535

STR is viable due to needing less stats compared to a basic quality build meaning you have more room to pump VIG/END/VIT depending on what you need. Yhorm's Great Club and Great Club are the only ultras I'd consider good but you have other good options for STR as well like Gundyr's Halberd and the Millwood Battle Axe.

>>165963236
It's great and should've been a part of the game originally. Unfortunately it won't be around for long (I mean, we can hope it'll get added to MM as a mechanic, but DaS3 is Summon Souls 3: Host-Handhold Edition so I doubt it) since that FROM community correspondant (or whoever the fuck they are) posted in a plebbit thread about it saying they were gathering info on it.

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>>165962642
For you

>>165962598
>you will see DSP complete a DeS solo run before you see ENB complete even a streamed run of DeS or Old Memers on cam
JDIMSA

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whats the trick to beating dancer at sl 16?

just play super lame and make it a 30 minute fight, right?

>>165961259
That is the funniest thing I have seen in a while.

>>165963802

DSP is still better at PvE than peeve

>>165963535
Yhorms and Greatclub are the best by far, but almost any of them work for PvE. For PvP, the two aforementioned weapons, Mace, Warpick, Spiked Mace, Millwood Axe, and Gundyr's Halberd are all pretty good.
Because of the Heavy Infusion, almost anything works, really. I've been memed on by a 66/16 Heavy Uchigatana

>>165963773
MASAKA ?

>>165963802
ENB is annoying to me. He tries to talk too much about life and he comes off like he's always trying to be philosophical frequently. How old is he anyways? He doesn't seem like he's old enough to be giving life advice like some 1000 year old grand wizard.

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>beware stabbing in the back
>barrel slightly moves

>>165963830
>obtain dark hand
>smash that ass

>>165963941
>66 STR
jesus. is that common for str or was that a meme build?

>>165963830
You need to end phase one quickly, so the grab doesn't kill you when you're admiring her ass.

Then it's simply avoiding the dance, as you shove your dark hand up her slutty ass.

>>165964241
>>165964394
ok, that sounds like a better idea than the deep axe way i tried before

>>165964380
66STR lets you get 99STR when 2H. Before the poise changes, that was the most common STR build. 60 STR doesn't lose much damage over 66STR and those 6 extra levels of VIT can help poise through things.

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>Holy Knight
>uses a assassin ambush
I wish it was maldron who did it and we fight this guy using another gimmick.

>>165963830
Dark hand, of if you (somehow) don't have any dark, fire works well too.

>>165964380
If you've got 66 str and 13 for a spiked mace (largest dex req of any pure-str weapon) that's 79 sl of investment. you're spending less than 40/40, and 66 twohanded is 99, max str.

>>165964039
34-35.
As far as his stream content goes well as long as he's having fun I guess but I think his polished yt shit is great. Imagine if he did a From the Dark for DeS like he was planning?

As far as his current content goes though he's a chill fella but it's more like watching a friend of your stream random shit and you're hanging on for the atmosphere more than the game. Would watch him cook southern foods tho'

Out of the old pillars only Lobos is really committed to Soulsborne pve which is a bit sad.

>>165947065

Did just that and got flagged anyways. Maybe changing starter class did it.

>>165963830
dark hand or bleed

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>Second half of Deacons OST

>>165964380

It's the best build for STR. STR is the only stat that can be hardcapped so easily.

>>165964806
>>165947065
>need to copy character to another slot to lower sl
how does the game know I didn't just replace it with a character of the same name?

>>165964556
The deep axe is fine for vordt, but it's way too slow against dancer.

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Why can't Miyazaki spell?

>>165964865
i tried a +2 uchi but the deep axe unupgraded seemed better

dark hand seems like an idea thou

>>165965007
Trust me, it knows

>>165964806
Of course changing the starting class would. You shouldn't do that ever

On 120 builds for PvP, what END do you guys bother stopping at? 40 feels pretty excessive.

>>165965405

10 END with Dancer's Blades, stamina is a crutch.

>>165965405
>40 feels pretty excessive
so does 40 dex and 40 strength on a single build, which is why so many people hate 120

>players say they want replay value
>new starting class comes out with dlc 3, "the fool"
>22/6/15/8/8/8/8/8/7
>nearly all of your builds can be remade with it, but at least one stat point more efficient

do you rike it /dsg/?

>>165965405
with favor +2 the 37th level gives you 4 points while the 38th gives 2, so 37 is my comfy cap. 26 is the first level that gives 3 instead of 2 (ring or not), I feel low on supplies without it. Even on my pure caster I need around 26 end to cast bountiful light without going negative.

>>165965405
Stamina is never excessive. Having only 30 is decent though, if you don't plan to use shields or heavy weapons.

>>165965405

40 is good, less chance to get guard crushed.

What is Miyazaki's obsession with mobs praying outside boss fogs?

>>165965664
>ng+ rings all moved back a cycle

I love DaS1 but boy howdy is the inventory fucking shite in that game.

Also is there any way to blank your achievements without erasing actual progress in the game?

>>165965798
meant to reply to >>165965694

>>165965664
>why so many people hate 120

I only see that here, and it's a pattern, I remember in Bloodborne /bbg/ also vouched for a lower SL meta. In fact outside of /dsg/ I see many people going 140-150 which is mind boggling. The only people that I see going below 120-125 are invaders, because meta level invasions are pure cancer. I think 125 is alright, all my characters are that level, I like the feel of having completed builds that still need to sacrifice something if you want extra vitality, faith for denial, etc.

>>165965928
In Bloodborne, people called for a 98 meta because it dodged everyone from reddit with their 150 builds. It really only held for public invasions and fight clubs, while co-op is any level at all, thanks to level bypass from passwords.

>>165965928
I have a 120 character that I leveled up just so I could replace my priestess ring with a untrue ring. Technically I made it worse, added 0.1 units of weight. though I can throw the priestess back on if I feel like using vow of silence for funsies.

>>165966071
How does the co-op password system actually scale your character?

>>165965928
lower level duelfaggot pvp metas are absolutely retarded because there's always lower build diversity and one or two super-viable setups that make everything completely irrelevant
sl100 is shit in ds1 just as bl98 is shit in bb or sl80 is shit in ds3 when it comes to duelling, people here are just neckbeard contrarians being contrarians just for the heck of it

>>165965694
you can have 7 vit and faith with sorc, and 7 vit and int with cleric though

>>165966194
It barely scales them at all. It tones down the damage a lot but still stronger than they should be, their endurance is almost untouched and their health is dropped a bit. They can still wield any weapons they could wield before being downscaled, they still get the huge bonus to resistances that you get just from leveling and they can still use spells that require 50+ INT even if they're downscaled to SL 20.

>>165965026
>DS3 chalice dungeons
>a maze full of Jailers and Jumping Ghrus
>boss is dual Berserk doggos

>>165966418
So, basically passworded sunbro is an unstoppable juggernaut that makes the game ez?

Well... I suppose I will make a new character when my friend decides get the game.

>>165966353
The "98 meta" in Bloodborne is a bit of a hoax, it was originally made for dodging reddit 150s, but is more or less irrelevant outside of public invasion. Since most people on the PvP front just do fight clubs, it's not particularly followed, but most people in fight clubs stick to 98 (though plenty of people have admitted to going far higher).
>>165966558
If I remember correctly, it also dodges what NG the summoner is at. I got summoned at NG for an NG+2

>>165966558
If you're passwording down from a high SL, yes. If you want your friend to have a fair experience then you're better just making one alonside them. What >>165966418 talks about, especially the resistance, is the reason you occasionally see bitching about dumbasses bringing 800+SL characters to FC's, since they'll still have yuge resists.

I really want rolls and sipping to be nerfed

>>165966749
>it was originally made for dodging reddit 150s
I enjoyed hosting with my BL140 full hybrids and raping 98 fucktards in Hamlet and Nightmares all day long.

>>165966749
NG cycles don't matter for inline passworded or not.

>>165966802
Anyone with half a brain does, anon, so you're no alone. Same with summoning. Someone should dried finger in a pvp hotspot and record a video of how long they can roll in circles around the invaders while spamming summons, send it to FROM. That'd do fuck all, who am I kidding.

>>165966549
>boss is dual Berserk doggos
>with pus of man

>>165966802
the only things that needs to be nerfed are phantom summoning and seeds
give phantom summoning a relatively slow, like 10 second long animation which you can be stunned out of
seeds should be limited to lone hosts
that's all

>>165966914
I don't know why I'm making a 98 for FCs, maybe to see if it's worth all the shouting. I don't even invade publicly, it's usually been chaos in my past experiences.
So tell me, am I wasting my time for a 98 and should throw in a few more points somewhere?

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>Karla's hat clips with the Murakumo

My pyromancer is ruined.

>>165967131
>with Dancer

>>165967238
>So tell me, am I wasting my time for a 98 and should throw in a few more points somewhere?
of course you are, especially if you're gonna be using this character for something else
98 is already past ng invasion levels but pretty mediocre for chalices as there's a high chance you will be summoned into lower chalices instead of tier 5
you can invade other 98 up to BL117 and host for them up to like BL140 or even 145
98 is a retarded thing forced by kobra which should've died alongside him

>still no ds3 2nd dlc news
Where's that anon who promised to pull out source that dlc 2 will have a bigger budget? Did his boypussy fuck off for good?
>>165967398
>Karla's hat is incompatible with Alva's murakumo
Truly a tragedy.

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HOW TO KILL DIS NIGGA

>>165967526

Now I need to find a new hat. Also I thought the irony was a little funny.

>>165967576
summon Glencour

>>165967576
You're gonna love the optional lmao2cat. For real though, you need to be pretty reserved with when you go in for what you think might be openings, and remember that her back legs can actually do full damage to you during certain attacks.

>>165967576
Hit him till he dies while avoiding being hit yourself. The only annoying move is a swipe that is delayed to catch you. Once you learn to not panic roll it, the boss is a pushover.

>>165967398
>Murakumo
your pyro was already ruined

>>165967210
>the only things that needs to be nerfed are phantom summoning and seeds
bloodrolls are OP even in duels no question anon, shit needs to be straight up removed

>>165959676
I've changed my name multiple (20-30+) times. It's the easiest way to make fast cosplays/invasion builds ect.

Download that super save + tool from nexus that lets you inject a char from every class with 500k souls and all items into a save slot, make your build and then change the name into whatever you want.

Now, am i softbanned? How can you actually tell? I can still see signs, get invaded and invade no troubles - though signs are fewer, but that makes sense given the age of the game.

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The Hunter's Dream made me realize how fucking cozy the Majula Mansion could've been if the player could set their base in there and storage would be handled by an armory/store room and you could use the giant book to attune spells and so on. Using the bonfire was fine I guess but I really loved how the Dream made you feel like a true professional preparing for hunts, storing and maintaining your gear.

>>165967467
Well, guess who's leveling up. At least I haven't even started yet. This one guy is only for FC, any others I make are strictly co-op, so they're going to 120 or so

>>165967953
>bloodrolls are OP even in duels no question anon, shit needs to be straight up removed

Bloodring builds are not more OP than the typical quality curved sword build.

I'm super biased though because I love my scumbag dagger thief and the win rate with it is stupidly high, beating even said curved sword shitters. I don't want the fun to end.

>>165967981
There's almost no actual way I think. The only way that occurs to me is grab a friend/player who you know has absolutely no chance of being been softbanned, then try to PW summon each other. If you can't see the signs, then chances are one of you is on a cheater servers. This is null if PW summons bridge the servers.

>>165966353
There's way more build diversity at 100 because there are actual builds. At 120 there's "guy with melee weapon" and "guy with melee weapon with 6 different magic buffs". Strength builds are pointless because even if you go 60 strength, softcapped vig, softcapped endurance and high vit you still have points left over and nowhere to put them.
>just put them into faith so you can use Tears + a weapon buff!
Like everybody else does? Is that what you consider build variety? Go onto any youtube video of dks 3 and see what people complain about.
>WAAAH EVERYBODY HITS TOO HARD
Considering everybody is unembered in the arena and you have almost 60 points put into weapon scaling alone, no fucking shit.

>WAAAH EVERYBODY USES CURVED SWORDS
If they tried to used a 40/40 quality at 100 they'd have to lower some stats for that extra damage. Less end for rolls, less vig for making mistakes, no faith for defensive spells, no vit for heavy armor which means they can't use weapons with hyper armor.

>WAAAH CASTERS AREN'T GOOD WITHOUT 120
Casters have naturally higher damage, longer range and are unpredictable because you can't see what spells they're using and what spell they currently have prepared. They at least need some sort of downside. I mean fuck, there was a guy in the threads yesterday who was shitting on people on a lvl 100 caster

>>165968173
>Bloodring builds are not more OP than the typical quality curved sword build.
Bloodring builds literally are just quality builds with the blood ring

>dagger
it doesn't affect quickstep iframes anon, that's probably why you've been under the impression it doesn't make too much a difference

>>165967865
>>165967758
>>165967714
i manged to kill it with a mace since my greatlance broke mid fight
>2cat
pls

>>165967953

This weapon is awesome. Is it just because of the stat investment?

>>165967953
>Murakumo
Honestly, would it make a good weapon for element infusion? Curved greatswords have okay-ish hyperarmor and quick attacks so I would think it could make a good rush alternative.

Maybe it just sucks because you shouldn't be trading with a spell build? I would assume the damage would be worth the trade since it's like a decent trade machine.

>>165968446
>greatlance broke
DaS2's weapon durability was ass

>>165968224
I guess a fair point is that if you cant tell, does it really matter?

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I be an edge lord and use DARK pyromancies! What can I do to improve this build idea?

>>165968657

It has A/A scaling with Int/Fai at Chaos+10, so it's not bad scaling.

>some people win because they lag
>they think they're good

FUCKING KYS ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>165968338
>there are actual builds
as well as on 120
it just allows more of them instead of a boring 1 stat shit
if you want 1 stat shit, nobody forces you to level to 120, stay at 100, just don't cry when you get your ass handed to you by the rest of community

>>165968865
The question is if it's worth infusing. I mean, there's literally no other reason to choose it over exile greatsword but when you're infusing a weapon with elements you're cutting base damage from the total plus making your output split.

>>165968338

>There's way more build diversity at 100 because there are actual builds. At 120 there's "guy with melee weapon" and "guy with melee weapon with 6 different magic buffs". Strength builds are pointless because even if you go 60 strength, softcapped vig, softcapped endurance and high vit you still have points left over and nowhere to put them.

At 120 assuming a Warrior start you can get 60 STR, 15 DEX, 39 Vigor and 40 Endurance with just enough points to get up to 21 Vitality which still isn't a lot. You by no means have an excess of points and considering how Vigor is useless past 39/44 there's no reason to take out from Vitality and gouge that.

>If they tried to used a 40/40 quality at 100 they'd have to lower some stats for that extra damage. Less end for rolls, less vig for making mistakes, no faith for defensive spells, no vit for heavy armor which means they can't use weapons with hyper armor.

Most quality weapons are fast already excluding greatswords and halberds which have enough reach/speed to shit on ultras without HA as is.

You can also reach SL 100 with 39 Vigor, 38 Endurance and 27/40 STR/DEX to reach the softcap while 2handing which is optimal with most weapons anyway so quality doesn't really suffer at all from lowering it to 100.

>mean fuck, there was a guy in the threads yesterday who was shitting on people on a lvl 100 caster

No offense to that guy but I saw the players he was fighting and they were awful objectively speaking, which to be fair most people still playing this game are.

>>165968757
Drop the VIT and put those in END or ATT

>>165969191

Well assuming you're running base stats to use it, which are already pretty high for pyro, you'll have 341 AR. If you go Chaos with 40/40 (which isn't hard to do if you're going to SL120) then it has 557.

I'm not as knowledgable about split damage, but I'd think the difference is big enough.

>>165969112
>1 stat shit
AKA builds AKA specs AKA specialization. 40/40 cancer can totally be pulled off at 100, you just have to actually take risks and be responsible with your points. It's the "have your cake and eat it too" scenario all over again. At 120, you specialize in too much shit. You can be a strength build who also has high dex, while also having high faith while also having high int, all while having softcapped vigor. You can wear heavy armor, while casting spells, with 1400 hp unembered while also having enough stamina to R1 spam an ultra weapon and still roll away after 3 swings. It's like playing a fighting game where Ryu is the only character on the roster, but every once in a blue moon you see a Ken instead.

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What's an area in the 3 main souls games that just makes you feel comfy/cozy? I found that the area you first meet Seigward and kill the fire demon to be quite cozy and I enjoy it a lot. Was wondering if anyone else has areas that make them feel this way.

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Is it even possible to get beat the Dancer at SL1 before fighting Vordt?

>>165969723
Anything is possible if you're gut enough

>>165969640
>AKA builds
as well as 2 stat builds
ever heard about dualclassing, fucktard? multiclassing?
just because you gobble on kobra's cock multi-stat builds don't magically become non-builds

>>165969693
Jesus christ

>>165969723
Of course it is, you just have to play really well for the entirety of the fight though.

>>165969723
The dancer has no unavoidable attacks.

>>165969723
cheese it using sword master glitch?

>>165969902
That was patched.

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>>165969452
You're probably doing 200-350 per hit on top of high stamina consumption but lower weight and hyper armor. I think it might be good but 20/18 plus the fact that it's heavy is hefty investment. I would make a build at a later date to make a final verdict.

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How is this build?

>>165969703
M A J U L A
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>>165969848
why is this allowed?

>>165969703
Corvian Settlement

>>165969640
You can't fit that in a single build. And just like anon said, 27/40 at 100 is just as strong as 120 quality, it still isn't making sacrifices and will still beat quality and be good at poise stacking only losing on some str weapons.

Quality isn't a problem, weapon strength is

>>165970207
Time is convoluted in Lordran, that's why.

>SL meta

I'm not going to speak for all casters, but my all-caster actually benefits from lower SL. My health and damage get scaled down pretty proportionally, but my regen is the same either way. If everyone had half health and did half damage, the 15 faith regen miracle would effectively feel like the 35 faith miracle. Considering I've got gentle prayer and bountiful light, I'm pretty well off in that regard. for a clearer example, look at how well poison works while twinking vs while in ta 120 arena.

On top of that, a 35/35 (60 points) crystal chime has as much spellbuff as a 50 faith yorshka's chime (60 points total if you've got 10 int) and more than any int stave (though it's short and doesn't have a stave weaponart). At low levels where you're proportionally going to have a lot of both stats anyway (10/20 isn't as big a split as 10/60 for example), the split scaling helps you hit like a fucking truck.

If I had my way I'd make the meta 110 though, and kill the refined infusion or something. Either way, stuff like ye-ole sl80 meme is far worse than 120, and I'd probably still take 120 over 100. 120 is good for stuff like 26/40 + 25 fai, helps the knight class, and motivates vig leveling.

>>165968338
>a guy
I'm right here

not even 100 yet, lol

>>165969264
>No offense to that guy but I saw the players he was fighting and they were awful objectively speaking, which to be fair most people still playing this game are.
No, you didn't, because I posted only one clip of me accidentally trying to cast black flame from my chime against someone who goofed up and accidentally pressed l2 with parting flame and literally nothing else. One anecdotal instance of spaghetti isn't really conclusive data. I had plenty of actually difficult duels with washingpolers, but I can't post them since they're long as fuck due to the fact that i'm relying on regen and darts. but a lot of other people were bad enough to beat purely with black flame if you're curious

>>165970147

I guess you have a point there, it'd be better for a quality build that wears heavier armour for more poise.

I just like the move set. I was also using an LGK and a Thrall Axe, but it wasn't quite as interesting.

>>165970202
I can empathize with that!

>>165970276
I can also see why for this one too.

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Why is everyone in this town such an asshole?

>>165956867
I was always under the impression that they were just magically animated suits of armor.

>>165970321

>No, you didn't

Then I am talking about about someone in this video that was not yours in that case, because most of the people shown here are awful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49rBGZMViWU

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Guys, anyone around level 70 ~ 80 has an extra Symbol of Avarice to give? I really need one.

PC, after pontiff's door to the right
pass: dsg

>>165970450
because an even bigger asshole is killing everyone in town

>>165970450
because 3 fat fuccs eat all the food

>>165970158
>great AR for SL20
>passable fashion
Would summon.

>>165969703
The Abyss has a strange sense of comfort to it once the 4kings are defeated. At least if you don't have Kaathe there.

For a more normal kind of cozy the bedrooms in Anor Londo are really nice.

>>165969802
>>165969854
any tips for her second phase?

>>165970667
Mugen shows AR for +10 weapons only.

>>165970667
>>165970762
The AR would be lower to compensate for the whole weapon upgrade thing, but from what I can tell, it's actually higher using the Refined path over the Normal one in the picture from that post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzdhTGaWzec

Five songs from each game you would want to hear in a live orchestra.

>>165970286
>27/40 at 100 is just as strong as 120 quality, it still isn't making sacrifices and will still beat quality and be good at poise stacking only losing on some str weapons.
Except 27/40 twohanding already has dramatically lower AR than a 40/40 twohanding the same weapon, and changing 40 vig/40 end to 39vig/38end is already more varied than "softcap this, softcap this, softcap this and softcap this, I now have A WHOLE 4 POINTS to put wherever I want".

>>165970158

Hunter's ring instead of Chloranthy. 4 more points into Vig/End. Weapon should probably be Raw?

>>165970158
>LK sword (?)
why not raw ass at that level? At lower upgrades it'll do more damage than others.

>low level knight
not a good idea
knight is better for when you can afford to put points on all/most stats and just want to save on luck. If you need the 9/9 anyway for GFS or something and want an attunement slot, knight comes out better than warrior if you at least prefer +4 vit to +4 luck.

Favor is probably better than chloranthy.

Go for 27 vig and at least like 20 end or something.

What if gibbing was a thing in Dark Souls? As in it only happens when on death you receive so much damage that your health reaches a negative threshold

>>165970321
>kill refined
this is one of the bigger problems, as I see it. refined shouldn't exist. quality was already strong enough

>>165970913

39 Vigor is a softcap for vigor though. All the actual meta players stop at that or 44.

>Vordt instant no start up rush

WHY

>>165970492
It ain't me, I've been shitposting about crystal chime and parting flame. That video is a week old or so.

>>165971083
I feel like you faggots just throw out words and phrases like "no start up", "animation cancel" and "FPS" just to try and give your shitty play some credibility.

Vordt's charges have a lot of start up and an obvious tell. Git fucking gud.

>that buffed up lothric knight after the tree gargoyles.

fucking fuck he makes me really impatient.

>>165969703
I always did like that first bonfire in the Forest of Fallen Giants, it reminded me of an actual spot I once camped at. Place was cozy as fuck.

>>165970913
Nott really, at best you lose around 30 ar on ultras, which will still kill in the same hits and the few points of HP and stamina lost hardly amount to much faster deaths.
There's hardly any build at SL 100 that can fight this quality and those who do, also compete with it at SL 120

>>165971083
>complaining about vordt dashes when "OCELOOOTEEEE" the infinite accelerator exists

ocerius's atoms should split apart if he runs into so much as air molecules with that kind of change in velocity, luckily his attack's hitboxes are small

>>165971083
>instant no start up
>despite spending almost 10 full seconds roaring to tell you that he's in second phase and is now capable of doing the charge, which he always does immediately after the roar
>which he also always does exact 3 times before stopping
LITERALLY UNPREDICTABLE
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO COUNTER THIS

>>165971368
>tree gargoyles
wat?

>>165971642
>he
I am not talking about when she first slams her hammer and roars.

>>165971614
Yeah he is pretty bullshit too.

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>>165970921
While I can't get the numbers now (this is still just on paper) from what I can tell, Raw will do less damage. Once again, I don't know, as scaling changes over time, so Raw might be better.

>>165970939
LKGS. I don't plan on using Astora's Straight Sword due to personal preference.

When I was checking the build, Knight was the best class I could use. But after changing to the Hunter's Ring, the Warrior class was more optimal.

How important is absorption anyway?

>>165971807
three (3) i meant

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any interesting world info come from this?

I had no problems with dancer, pontiff, or even aldrich but holy fucki am getting beanpoled from these lothric princes

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>>165962072
>>165962447
>>165962642
>>165963802
Idk why I still laugh this hard at baneposting

>>165972258
other than lost izlath being next to smouldering lake

If I use a Pale Tongue after I've already helped Sirris kill her grandfather, will I still fail her questline and not be able to get her armour once I kill the Twin Princes?

Hey nigs, I'm just starting DS2 and these stats are kind of weird. Are there any basic rules I should know that might not be obvious after having played DS1? Like what is Adaptability, for example? Are there any useless stats in this one like RES in DS1? What would you raise first as a Cleric?

>>165972258
Firelink Shrine(s) don't match
Space is convoulted as well

>>165971304
animation cancels exist, orphan of kos is extremely blatant with them

>>165972651

My first 25 level ups in any new DaSII playthrough always go into Adaptability.

>>165972651
adp adds iframes to ur roll

If Nameless King is the Gwyn's first born, who was Solaire then? Just a random dude?

>>165972651
Put adap at 20 and you're good to go.
Also can't remember if attunement boosts cast speed in 1, but it does in 2.

>>165973368
>iframes
What are iframes? I always see this talked about. I'm sure this is a retarded question but will somebody humor me?

>>165973516
i-frames in rolls determine whether or not you'll get the shit slapped out of you if the enemy hits you during the roll.

In DS2 you start with these really low, and the higher you pump agility the faster your animations and the better your iframes. Taking adapt to 20 is pretty much the standard.

>>165973461
Solaire is just a really strong guy with unwavering faith but unfortunately also quite naive.

It's a shame he became such a stupid meme character because judged separate from that he's pretty cool for such a simple character.

>>165973461

Was just some scrub that wanted senpai to notice him.

So we can all agree that DS3 wasn't as bad as DS2, but is still really bad compared to DS1?

>Inb4 "nostalgiafag"
Behold the list of things that DS1 did objectively better than DS3
>Weapon variety (As in, how different they are to play)
>Build variety
>Level+area design
>Enemy design (Every enemy felt unique, that can't be said about DS3)
>PvP (Yes, I unironically beleive Backstab Souls is more fun than R1 Souls)
>Boss Design

>>165973358
>>165973471
>>165973825
So adaptability to 20-25 should be the FIRST thing I do? Like before endurance, faith, str/dex, this is the most important? I was given similar advice in DS1 regarding endurance.

>SL 92
>STR build
>still have 22 end and manage every time
Should I just level to sl 120 anyway? I mean I've been invading and dueling people at that range anyway or maybe I should just stick to it?

>>165972651
Everyone already explained ADP.

There aren't really any shit stats to invest in, everything is useful in one form or another.

Keep in mind that elemental damage is a derived stat from FAI and INT, so how you level them will impact how strong your casting is. Weapons also have elemental scaling, so spell-blading is super good in this game. It's semi-confusing, but consistent.

You'll want at least some physical damage and HP to survive the early game, the first area can be pretty brutal with its mobs. FAI doesn't really get good until at least mid-game since Lightning Spear has been over-nerfed and never really recovered.

If you can afford it, get a Heide Knight Sword early on, it will serve you well on a Cleric build.

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>>165968351

>Bloodring builds literally are just quality builds with the blood ring

Yes but it only works well with hit and run weapons, like katanas. Ones that often end in trading like curved swords are shit with the bloodring

>it doesn't affect quickstep iframes anon, that's probably why you've been under the impression it doesn't make too much a difference

I'm using it on a Corvian Greatknife, which doesn't have quickstep. Bloodring makes me able to roll into spam without being hit and interrupt it with a quick running attack and giving them a taste of my own R1 spam. The damage adds up pretty quickly if they don't roll away fast, and even if they do my rolling attacks and R1s harass them to death.

It's pretty fun to go against curved sword shitters, they can take a lot of my HP if they catch me with a hit (doesn't help that the stun of the dagger is short enough that if I trade they can often get another hit in before i can roll) but I can actually interrupt their spam and punish them severely if they want to keep mashing, they have to be more cautious and be always ready to roll away.

Don't get me wrong, my build is a pretty shitter build as well, but it's almost unused and pretty fun to play as. I got a lot of hatemail with it too.

Sorry I didn't respond earlier, I had some things to do so probably you won't see it.

>>165973881
To become a meme is the ultimate honor tbqhwy.

How do you get so much depth out of a fucking Souls character, though? These games have basically no story.

>>165973939
DaS only had the connected world going for it. What I really miss is DaS2's weapon and armor variety.

In DS3, what level would my luck need to be at to reliably get covenant items to drop while wearing a Symbol of Avarice and a Covetous Gold Serpent Ring?

>>165973979
Yeah, but honestly I can see why people hate it even through it doesn't bother me too much. Moreover I think 99 agility is more than enough.

>>165974067
I deleted my message because I had forgotten to erase my name and now I see another mistake in it, and I can't be arsed to delete and repost it again.

I meant "with a quick rolling attack", not "running attack". The rolling attack is awesome and the running attack sucks.

>>165973979
It honestly depends on how good your timing is/how good you are at parrying, but yeah I'd take it to 20 pretty quick.

My advice is to NOT pull the levers in Heide's Tower of Flame. There's a way to drop the boss in the drink right away that you can find on youtube, and he's mostly shit on by circle strafing his back anyway so you don't need the space. Easy 10k.

>>165960247

Yes, Maldrom is a thousand times better without having a single line of dialogue

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>make a new character
>get to farrons fun house
>lose all interest in the game

Why does every dark souls have a area thats just a chore to get through?

>>165958945
bosses don't have different animations for hornet ring

What dex do I wanna cap at on a STR char? 13, 15?

What's the best thing to parry with in DS3?

>>165974462
You mean 2/3 of dark souls 2
The PvP makes it worth it though :/ I guess

>>165974462
I really hope we might get some QoL stuff shoved in with the last DLC. A rusted iron ring equivalent would be fucking gr8 and would make farron a pretty neat area with all the islands and poison and stuff.

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So who the fuck is talking when you return to the first bonfire in AoA? it isn't the corvian dude, he's inside his shithole.

>>165974462
Once you learn the area you can get it over with very easily, and it does have a portion that I actually like, the broken bridge. I love fighting that demon and trying to break its legs.

>>165960905
this theme is fucking great

my favorite

>>165974535
The absolute minimum required by your weapon of choice.

>>165974535

15 allows you to use Gundyr's Halberd so if you want to use it stop there. Otherwise leave it at base for what you want.

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How long does it take for the Invalid Data message to go away?

>>165974741
I enjoy breaking his legs and walking away, it's hilarious.

>>165974462
Farron keep takes about 3 minutes to get through once you have a proper route, and you only really need to kill maybe 10 enemies at most.

>>165967576

Do not target him, the fight is a lot easier when you manually aim where to strike instead of just focusing on his center which fucks you up when you try to evade his attacks

>>165974741
>Once you learn the area you can get it over with very easily
The main reason why gimmicks need some refreshing factor that doesn't trivialize gameplay in every encounter. It's like the Ancient Wyvern's ohko plunge which shouldn't even be a thing but they should at the very least make the boss incapacitated by removing 1/4 of it's hp. I wish FROM didn't half ass their gimmicks, they're not bad ideas but they sure as hell kill replayability just by fucking up the reward/risk ratio.

>>165974535
18 for BK weapons even though the BKH is a fucking dex weapon that requires 28 strength now.

>>165974535
With 10 you can use fume then slap on hunters ring for gundy's or milk for spiked mace, much easier than respeccing. Or just use minimal dex if you only want one weapon.

>tfw you collect every bit of equipment in the game
>go back to using a longsword+knight set anyway

>>165974701
it is. the audio balance is just shit

Whats a good weapon to start using in catacombs?

>>165975251

It required like thirty fucking two str in DS1

>>165975819
Pummeling weapons are good on skeletons

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>Host of Embers has started critical battle. Returning to your world.

>>165974701
It's Ariandel's VA

>>165975737
He means the guy by the fireplace in the settlement

>>165975837
In 1 it had insane base damage and mediocre scaling, mostly focused on strength. In 3 it has okay base damage, okay scaling but requires a ton of strength but dex scaling is a C when it was an E in 1. This shit just doesn't make sense.

>>165974985
Took me a few weeks

>>165976119
>hes not boss invading
jokes on you

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>playing some Co-Op with a friend
>We're fighting Oceiros
>All he does is spam Deep Soul

>Phase 2
>He keeps spamming Deep Soul
>I tell him he should stop casting, but he does anyway
>He dies and rages

What a surprise

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>>165970450

What the FUCK was his problem?

>>165977130
Nana disappeared. I'd be upset without my 66STR waifu.

>>165977130
There's a non-hostile Hollow Manservant with a cage on his back in the area. Jump in for a magical journey.

>>165976887
>bringing a mage to oceiros
y tho
Deep soul is basically all he can do, either that or waste fp on 100 damage soul arrows

>>165976887
>>165977562
>get sick of oceiros' shit
>get him stuck in the corner, attempting to charge me through the tree
>slash him slowly to death

I don't even feel bad for the crazy mother fucker.

>>165977398
>non-hostile
He's hostile as soon as he sees your boypussy quivering.

>>165970834
DeS
-Tower Knight
-Demon's Souls
-The Old One
-Maiden Astraea
-The One Who Craves Souls

DS1
-Bell Gargoyle
-Ornstien and Smough
-Great Grey Wold Sif
-Chaos Witch Quelaag
-Dark Knight Artorias

DS2
-Darklurker
-Nashandra
-Sir Alonne
-Burnt Ivory King
-Sihn the Slumbering Dragon

BB
-Cleric Beast
-The One Reborn
-Ebrietas Daughter of the Cosmos
-The Hunter
-Gerhman the First Hunter

DS3
-Oceiros the Consumed King
-Abyss Watchers
-Aldritch Devourer of Gods
-Lorian and Lothric
-Pontiff Sulyvahn

>>165977879
Get in the cage behind him

>>165967576
Manual aim, pure physical damage only. Summon the NPC to help.

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>tfw close to finishing the game with only needing to do the iron king DLC and to fight the endgame bosses as well as vendrick
gonna be satisfying as fuck watching the credits

>>165968670
>durability mechanic actually works in making people consider strategy instead of just being yet another thing you dump souls on halfway through the game and then forget about

>that must mean it's broken

>>165978459
>Swing weapon
>It happens to hit a corpse
>It instantly breaks
Nice "mechanic"

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>>165978034
Gladly.

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>>165978365
>saving fume knight for last
Good choice anon. Brace yourself.

>>165978459
Why should it be a thing though? Swords in real life didn't break if you hit a dude with them once or twice.

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>>165978807

>>165978365
kek just dropped half way the ivory DLC and didn't even bothered killing vendrick. Guess it's because it was vanilla I played, but I can't find the strenght to play SoTFS.

>>165978541
>it instantly breaks

you didn't play DS2, did you?

The only time a weapon breaks in DS2 is if you spam it by attacking with the hilt (halberds or scythes), drench yourself in acid, or have a 30 minute fight against someone way above your level.

Those are all situations where the weapon breaking would make sense and be an incentive to strategize your attack and weapon choices.

What rings are considered good? I don't really want to plan around having a ring like with the various stat rings, but I'm not sure if taking 10% more damage is outweighed by the 15 extra stats or not. Same with the Bloodring.

>>165978915
>That tiny bit of damage that nonsensically appears some of the times you dodge the sword attack.

Heatwave

What's a decent weapon I can infuse early on for a Pyro build that's only going to have 15 St and 9 Dex for the entire game?

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Hey /dsg/ Im sure some seasoned invaders can tell me how i deal with the ratio of wins:losses in invading

Ive earned about 11 tongues in around 3 hours in the pontiff area at lvl 68 with a +7 great club, If i dont invade into a gank squad its a host at the bonfire summoning 2 phantoms as soon as i zone in which is basically the same fucking thing, not to mention the lag, i cant rollcatch anyone in DaS3 for shit and i know im doing it properly because i can rollcatch the NPC invaders, it seems like even if im ontop of someone my great club will go through them and then they roll like nothing happened and then they will stick an estoc in me from 10 foot away, i just dunno how ill get 19 more tongues senpai...

Is it true that in DS2 blunt weapons were OP because no AI enemies had armour against it? Is that still a thing in SOTFS? What about DS3?

>>165978851
Because swords break if you blindly attack a dude 50-60 times

Weapons in DS2 have ~1/4th the per-hit durability of weapons in DS1, but restore it every time you rest at a bonfire.

The only time durability was an issue was in the release version of SOTFS before it was patched, when the game would wear weapons down 2x as fast because the durability mechanic had been broken from the 30 to 60 fps change, and it was patched immediately afterward.

>>165979051
FaP, life, chloranthy, hornet because caestusouls 3. Don't use prisoner's chain ever unless you're staying under SL 30

did i install pvp watchdog wrong? it seems to always be stuck on 0 nodes, even when i'm not hollow.

>>165979110
The R1s of the Great Club aren't very good at roll catching, it's the R2s that do the trick. Also you're invading at Pontiff, if you see a tough gank, waiting for more invaders to show up is an option.

>>165979212

I figured three of those would be great, but Life Ring? Really? I guess the 10% for having 1500~ or more HP is a lot, but I figured something like the Steelplate ring would be better.

>>165979212
>Don't use prisoner's chain ever unless you're staying under SL 30
They're still good up until sl 50

>>165979110
As much as I hate to parrot peeve peeverson, you have to pick your battles and wait for backup in the form of other invaders. Pontiff Garden should be busy enough that you should have to wait too long for backup

>>165979031
>weapon breaking would make sense and be an incentive to strategize your attack and weapon choices

>carry duplicate weapon
>hardswap when it breaks
cool mechanic

>>165979380
Steel plate ring and the clutch rings are nerfed in pvp and in PvE they hardly matter because it's all % based.

>>165979519

Awesome, good to know.

Last question - if I don't want to just power my way to SL100, what are hotspots to invade at and at what upgrade level? I don't want to overupgrade. Just what you'll most likely have at certain points?

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Man, I sure love using monster vac on ganksquads

>>165978807
You can't do Alonne before Fume IIRC

>>165979696

What?

>>165979683
Stay under sl 80 and you're all good. After +6 upgrade at sl 50, try upgrading whenever activity is dead for 2-3 days just so you get the feel of your community range. You might live in a region where you fight people at a sweetspot weapon level but once you upgrade past it, it's probably gonna be dead for awhile.

>>165979156
Strike, thrust, and slash do the same damage against ~70% of the AI enemies in DS2. The other 30% resist either slash or thrust or both, but no one resists strike. It's not OP, but it is highly consistent against everything.

Another reason strike is good is because enemies that are big, powerful, and highly resistant to the other two (slash, thrust) tend to be very weak to strike.

For reference:
http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/weakness

>>165967576
If you're weapons not fast enough you can't hit him from behind and avoid his sweep.

>>165979897
It's +6 so you get upgrades more easily because you can farm large titanites and shards from lothric/silver knights. Chunks are a pain in the ass to get so if you feel like you're not getting enough level activity and you're not dealing enough damage, just level the weapon up slowly.

>>165979897

Thanks anon. I played a fair amount at release, but quit for a long time and only recently came back. Was looking to actually do shit instead of just PvE until endgame.

>>165979456
So you hate durability entirely, not DS2 durability?

>>165968670
>DaS2's weapon durability was ass

Because DS2 and DS3 are the same, and hard swapping a multiple copy is how you get around DS1, DS2, AND DS3 durability. So are you just shitposting now or do you have a point?

DS1 is the only game where you have to repair by spending souls, and all that means is that the only time a weapon breaks in DS1 is if you completely ignore durability for 2/3rds of the game.

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>>165980057

i really don't wanna screw this up so
after getting the three crowns do i kill vendrick then get his crown THEN go to his memory?

what's a good upgrade from wolnir's holy sword? are there any good popular meme weapons I should be using on my first playthrough? I can always respec away from faith. The claymore doesn't feel great like it did in ds1, maybe zweihander?

I just finished the game at sl80, DLC is downloading and I feel underpowered if the ds2 DLC is a good reference point on difficulty

>>165979841
It's an option in the CE table, all alive ennemies in the area will teleport to the one you choose. I do that on the host usually, it's funny to see him stuck with a billion monsters taking his life away.

Invading at low level in these games is pure cancer.

Am I the only one who doesn't fucking cheat my way through the game?