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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General. Let's talk about Sonic games as well as the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more

/sthg/ #656 - Archie No More? Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
The Sonic Movie Characters May Have Redesigns “But Nothing Extreme”
http://www.tssznews.com/2016/12/26/the-sonic-movie-characters-may-have-redesigns-but-nothing-extreme/

Collectors Edition of Sonic Mania for Nintendo Switch
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/819965709153234944

TOMY 2017 Catalogue Reveals More Boom and Classic Merchandise
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/12/tomy-2017-catalogue-reveals-more-boom-and-classic-merchandise/

Archie Comics March 2017 Covers and Solicitations
http://bumbleking.com/sonic-comics-for-march-and-free-comic-book-day/

Archie Sonic Ending?
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/01/16/sonic-subcriptions-disappear-from-archie-web-store/

>Recent and Upcoming Releases<
The Sonic the Hedgehog level pack for LEGO Dimensions has released! You can purchase it online or at physical retailers near you. NOTE: You will need the LEGO Dimensions starter pack to play.

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2

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>>165942951
>blobs
at least post an image from an artist that isn't a gay
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>>165943106
You can't see his toes from that perspective anon
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3rd for fool me once (reboot the comic, killing off all existing plotlines and 2 decades of worldbuilding), shame on me.
Fool me twice (end the comic entirely), shame on you.
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>>165943223
Pretty much.
The first time I accepted that it was largely Penders' fault and Archie had their hands tied.

But now I'm just angry.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZdiu84GS48

This will play at Archie's furneral

Who else here going to not watch Riverdale on the CW channel?
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>>165943664
I haven't watched CW since Smackdown was on it.

I don't even think I have the channel anymore.
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>>165943664
I don't think I've seen a single thing on CW since they dropped SmackDown.
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>>165943664
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>>165943223
At least they can't fool you three times.
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How in the hell did Archie think they could sell pre-reboot shit without getting in trouble from former employees? Did they learn nothing from Penders? Now the comic's gone and I hope their new show tanks. Jughead is already suppose to be bisexual in it
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>>165943664
So you been meaning to tell me that there was an instance where Knuckles predessors foretold of the instance where Sonic will become Hyper/Super form to do battle in space for the Master Emerald?

Or was there an event BEFORE the main Sonic titles that this event already happened in the past and that Knuckles predessors recorded it in tribute to the Super/Hyper being that helped their island get floating again?
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>>165944425
It was foretold.
Sonic is the chosen one.

This is/was true in the comics as well (RTAA arc)
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>>165944110
>Jughead is already suppose to be bisexual in it

I thought he actively hated the idea of romance in the comics.

>>165944425
It's probably a prophecy. And since Gerald Robotnik is known to have studied the ancient Echidnas (to the point of designing the Cannon's Core to resemble the shrine of the Master Emerald in order to better harness the power of the Chaos Emeralds), I like to think that he designed Shadow based on (a misinterpretation of) that prophecy.
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>>165944780
They don't give a shit, anything to make money and that's what this show is all about, CW shows all suck but every "Actor" on there are all hot so they use any excuse to have them get naked, well kinda naked and do stuff.
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So if Riverdale fails, is Archie done?
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>green hill zone is pretty much a exact recreation of green hill zone from the original sonic
pre order canceled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ-IzQe-OUI
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>>165946921
It's the most generic dull uninteresting level in the whole game. Every sequel (Emerald, Angel FUCKING Island) did what GHZ did a million times better.
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>>165946921
But we know it's not because we've seen new areas in other gameplay videos.
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>>165946921
>Projared
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For all the game's faults I have to admit, the idea of Shadow Android and Omega taking over the Eggman empire is cool as fuck.

I'd have loved to see Archie work it in somehow as an alternate universe/timeline
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>>165946921
>While I'm not THE biggest Sonic the Hedgehog fan
Everyone always prefaces their opinions about Mania with this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnwXmFwVSVM&t=0s
>the kid who drew sanic will never get his royalties
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>>165946921
Except the first act of Mania encompasses all of GHZ from 1, faggot. Kill yourself.
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>>165946921
Did anyone save that level map rip a /v/irgin was compiling together? It was S3K sized.
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>>165947457
Nvm found a version in the archive. It's missing a few sections though, so idk if its been updated since.
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>>165946921
>that subliminal focus on the things he doesn't like
>blatant false information
I hate Projared so much.
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Atleast, if the comic is not cancelled, all this fan outcry will show Archie and Sega that series has clout.
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>>165947793
https://twitter.com/truongasm/status/821815753707962368
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gameplay of Sonic Mania on the switch portable mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtTtqzJ1k_Y
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>>165947773

How do you play that and not realize they made changes?
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>>165948815
You be a casual fan who doesn't have that shit memorized.
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>>165948815
it'scool to like Sonic again so people pretend to know what they are talking about
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>>165948745
>you can play it while you shit
all i need
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>>165947348
New character for Project Sonic, conformed?
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>>165948745

>1:15
>Spends a full minute stareing at an obviously breakable wall and not doing anything

Holy fuck. How are people this bad at sonic?
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>>165947773
Well, I was iffy on the remixed stages thing, but looking at that I'm pretty fine with it now, assuming the rest of the old levels get similar treatment.
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>>165948965

But like...the short loops at the end on the one root that hasn't been changed much...and the fact that it's two zones instead of the first one...like...

>>165948970

There has been an explosion of this.

>The boys. Those guys.
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>>165949090

It's almost like they've never actually played a classic sonic game before for more than 5 seconds, and only talk shit about it because it's popular.
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>>165947773
good to view, good post
ill know go through it with a thine tooth comb
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>>165949202
>root
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>>165949202
>The boys. Those guys.

Where are my boys Sega

i sure miss my boys.
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>>165948970
>it's cool to dislike Sonic again so people pretend to know what they are talking about
fixed
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>>165947296
The idea of Shadow Android in general was the best way to bring the character back and mess with some new territory without retreading old shit or ruining the character's death.

Instead... he's the real Shadow but lol all of his backstory is gone so he's just a generic hedgehog who is grumpy and hangs out with a robot. The only thing worse that's ever been done with regards to the character was when the comics would try to introduce "Maria Replacements".
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>>165949576
He actually was an android in Heroes but the actual one in Shadow.
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>>165948386
100/10
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>>165949576
Funny enough, the most obvious "Maria replacement" in the comics actually predated Adventure 2 and only became a Maria replacement years later.
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>>165949801
Who?
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>>165949979
hope kintobor
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>>165949801
Hope? I don't even mind the existence of such a character though it's hard not to roll my eyes anytime i read the word "Kintobor" so much as just... I feel it's extremely lazy to cling to the idea of needing a Maria Replacement in his life in the first place.

It's about as bad and lazy as the pointless creation of Girlfriend characters like Saffron.
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>>165950110
Well keep in mind Shadow never really had a proper character development in the comics. In the games he had Adventure 2, Heroes, Shadow, then 06, but in the comics it was just Adventure 2, then he was rescued by ayy lmaos, and that was it. There was no Heroes, Shadow or 06 adaption in the pre-reboot comics, the Black Arms was just a throwaway reference to explain why the Xorda weren't genebombing the planet to shreds, and pretty much all of Shadow's character development in the comics happened after 06 was released.

Plus Hope was kinda part of Team Dark as a whole and not just Shadow's Maria surrogate, so that helped.
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>>165950110
the thing about hope was not only was she somewhat useful but they actually explored the concept of a hero being attached by a villain by family ties
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>>165950405
Ah, see, I wasn't keeping up around that time so I wasn't sure what all actually saw adaptation. That makes a little more sense.
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>>165949801
And was basically only called a Maria replacement because she was a young blonde girl who interacted with Shadow, the similarities between them end at the superficial level
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molly was an actual maria replacement
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>>165950096
Oh yeah, Hope.
Shame she got pendered.
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>reminder that if the comics didnt reboot Snivley would be stuck in a capsule unknown to anyone else as a sign of Eggman's ruthlessness.
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>>165949576
>but lol all of his backstory is gone
But that's not true at all. Shadow's backstory in Shadow was the same as in Adventure 2, but with the Black Arms.
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Anon please remember to jack off every day to me.
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>>165951292
>as a sign of Robo-Robotnik's ruthlessness
FTFY
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>>165951331
I'm referring to Sonic '06, which referenced none of it because kinda-but-not-really-reboot.

A shame none of that "humanity will eventually turn against you" stuff never really saw any satisfying conclusion, though. And fuck the inhibitor rings bullshit.

>>165951439
that image isn't even very good, could you not?
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>>165951546
Fuck off Penders. Also Snively is still there, in the Skull Egg
What if the Bunnie issue of Universe has him get out?
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>>165951546
dont remind me of that convoluted backstory
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>>165951564
What was wrong with the Inhibitor Rings? Also, couldn't Amy turn invisible in that game.
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>>165951564
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>>165951564
It was a satisfying conclusion when you consider it followed Adventure 2 and his own game. Adventure 2 had him initially decide to destroy the planet out of revenge before remembering Maria's true wish for him to give them a chance. ShTH had him initially side with Black Doom to bring order to the humans until he realized the true plan was to effectively destroy humanity. Then in 06 he's shown that humanity will try to destroy him anyway, but Shadow chooses to fight for what he believes in instead of giving in to hate or fear as he had in the past.

Granted 06's story really isn't that good, but you can tell they tried the hardest with Shadow's part.
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>>165951786
Inhibitor Rings kinda felt like just. The dumbest goddamn deus ex machina. The idea that Shadow is always held back from being some invincible super-not-super character who can at a moment be OBLITERATING EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT YOUR FRIEND is just dumb. Bad. Don't do it.

Invisible Amy was another extremely weird thing they pulled out of their ass that didn't really accomplish anything. I feel like if it were explained even at all it could have been something okay, but that would start to creep dangerously close to "everyone has a superpower" fanfictiony territory.

>>165952119
I feel like I remember reading some pretty interesting unused dialogue involving Shadow and Mephiles, but upon trying to google it again I'm coming up short, so I might just be crazy.
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>>165952678
*at a moment's notice

i also forgot to mention that there appeared to be basically zero consequences to removing the inhibitor rings, rendering the whole concept pointless.
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>>165949801
Yeah, but Sonic Adventure 2 was in development for a few years, so it's really not saying much comparing Maria existence it to a comic character who was probably churned out in a few months.

Maria and Hope are entirely coincidental.
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>>165952678
blame sonic x
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>>165953180
can we really say sonic X is 100% to blame for the repeated mishandling of the character? because i'm still not over him being a demon.
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>>165953336

Shadow has only been handled well by Ian Flynn and co.
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>>165953336
Alien. He's part alien.
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>>165952678
>>165952892
>>165953180

sonic x? wasn't it one of those things that were mentioned in the notes for SA2 or something similar.

not that they should've used it
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>>165953336
do you mean alien? cause im sure he;s not a demon
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>>165951292
Thank goodness for that

Am I right guys?
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>>165952892
Actually, there is a consequence. If Shadow exerts himself too much or fights for too long, he'll become unconscious.
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>>165953424
>>165953523
yeah yeah, I'll give you that they're literally aliens but my point was that tinkering with his lineage wasn't all that necessary at all.

>>165953603
still kind of a bullshit ace up their sleeve to just have around. like just. don't write characters like this.

"become the bestest most powerfulest thing ever but they get tired after" is weak.
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>>165952678
The Inhibitor Rings are not just to lock away his power, it's to keep it from sapping his strength and eventually just straight up killing him. It's more of a Kaioken than a Super Saiyan type thing. He gets lots of power out of it but it leaves him pooped.
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>>165953448
shadows ring in sa2 was the only thing he left behind before he "died"
in the x adaption his rings shoot off before he uses chaos control
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>>165951439
I'm gonna jerk off every day, sure, but I'm doing it for me.
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>>165953843
I think having tiredness as a drawback for using their powers can be effective, as long as it actually has consequences and factors into other things. Bunnie for example is super strong and fairly fast, but since her cybernetics run off her life energy, she gets worn out quickly. Which also means that if someone like the Iron Queen were to manipulate her bionics long enough, it could kill her.
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>>165953893
See, I had always just taken that as what was left of him. It never even occurred to me that they were ever supposed to be anything more than his bracelets.
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>>165953893
no i mean the stuff that they made up but didnt end up in the final cut.

like Maria having NIDS
Shadow was made to fight diseases
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>>165953180
>>165952678
>>165951786
>tfw Amy has had inhibitor rings to hold back her immense power all along.
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god i cant stand how in x when ever shadow is shown from the front he has this extra spine showing from the side of his head
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>>165954192
No, those are just bracelets.
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>>165953180
Sonic X helped ruin the franchise. Sega, for some retarded reason, started taking ques from the show and putting it in the games.
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>>165954192
I love it, that's my new personal canon.
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>>165954192
>Project 2017
>Eggman fucks up Sonic, Classic Sonic, Tails & Knuckles shit
>Brags about how no one can stop him from ruling the world
>Amy shows up & takes off her rings
>Destroys Eggman's shit with one hammer swing

It would be ridiculous, but make it happen, SEGA!
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>>165954192
you have no idea how much i want some super amy, but please not like this you memer

>>165954242
i know, right? could they not have just drawn the fifth one?
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>>165954340
To be fair, they also started taking things from western canon.
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shadow attempts to murder a little girl and beats up everyone in his path
>all he gets is a "hey not cool bro" and leaves
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>>165954192
lmao she's not even top 10
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>>165954605
chilli dogs
robotnik is eggmans real name
thats about it so far,
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>>165954192
>yfw they're weights just like Goku/Rock Lee.
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>>165954607
shadow beats knuckles in sonic X.
it might be fanwanky but I like to think knuckles to use the master emerald power to neutralise shadows abilities and thus beat him.
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>>165954793
This is canon in Sonic Battle.
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>>165954607
>Didn't even tell anyone his reasoning until halfway kicking their asses.
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>>165954641
>not even top 10

Says you
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>>165954854
sonic x is part of the 'knuckles is useless' era though

the moment they robbed him of any understanding of chaos emeralds was the beginning of the end for him.

>>165954902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DwuoQFxJ68
i can still hear it
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>>165954984
shitty animation from shitty artist doesn't make me wrong
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Reminder:
Sonic and Shadow are the spitting image of each other, and have the same abilities.
Shadow wears Inhibitor Rings to hold back his immense power, without them he'll burn out
Sonic doesn't wear limiters of any sort, and suffers no reprecussions when he uses the full extent of his immense power, such as when he beat Ultimate Emerl in 30 seconds or less.
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165955026
Oh, you're a shitposter. Man, to think I was about to waste a (You) on this post.
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>>165955026
I really think Chauvels should just stop. She's never going to get good, and is wasting her time trying and spending money on trying
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>>165954998
It also gave us the "Knuckles is dumb" shtick Sega ran with.

Sonic X was the worst thing to every happen to the franchise.
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>>165954998
Thanks for reminding me why I had it on mute every time I played.
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>>165944780
If Shadow haven't had Black Doom's DNA, would his fur be gold like Super Sonic?

I still think Shadow being an alien is stupid. If he's an alien, what does that make of Biolizard? They both shared the same color scheme.
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>>165954641
She beat Knuckles with a single push.
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>>165955248
Knuckles did the same back with better results.
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>>165955145
To be fair, Chauvels' drawings do border on uncanny most of the time. They're not Penders-bad, but they're not anything special, either. She does have creative ideas, though.
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>>165955248
Leave him be, anon. Don't waste your (You)'s on him
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>>165955234
I think Shadow would be, either one of these colors:
>Blue
>Dark Blue, almost Black
>Dark Red, almost Black
>Black with a red tint
>Black with a blue tint
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>>165955313
Not good enough to really make her worthwhile. Perhaps she should find a career more suited to her talents, like retail
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>>165955234
>Gerald wanting to put that DNA in Maria to cure her.
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165955305
In a completely different universe (the comics).Do 2017 shitposters even try, anymore?
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>>165955120
Fuck off Sparky.
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>>165951678
>Also Snively is still there, in the Skull Egg
>What if the Bunnie issue of Universe has him get out?

Seems like it would be kind of pointless, seeing as he's already working for GUN now (probably as Eggman's mole, but whatever).
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>>165955234
I still stand by my ultimate fanon of Shadow being a homunculus created in the image of the prophetic murals on Angel Island.

There's not really a better explanation for his appearance out there or the fact that Gerald built a Master Emerald altar in the core of the ARK to draw out the power of the Emeralds as Super Emeralds. Keep in mind that he did this like 50 years before Sonic ever stumbled on Angel Island..
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>>165955474
Well, you're not trying. So I guess your answer is no.
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>>165955431
*if you know what I mean
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>>165955517
gerald studied angel island/mystic ruins

the biolizard was based off chaos mural. It failed so he then changed it to the supersonic mural.

so if that failed he would've made one off kyodai Death Egg robot.
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165955593
>no u!

Kek
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>>165955894
I'm not wrong. The only one shitposting is you. Just look at yourself, autismo.
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>>165956103
>I'm not the shitposter, you are!

Hilarious.

Anyways, is Printbro kill? He hasn't been here in weeks
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>>165956240
What's hilarious is your paranoia induced delusion. Take a break and go on a walk. Get some fresh air and stop flipping out about anyone that doesn't sugarcoat their posts.
>in weeks
He popped in the last time someone asked a few days ago.
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>>165956475
>stop flipping out

You call those posts flipping out? Please, this whole thing has been pretty damn tame compared to what usually happens here.
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>>165955026
>>165955145
Jeez guys. It ain't that bad.
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>>165957040
There's honestly nothing wrong with her work.
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>>165957040
No but her DBZ porn is.
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>>165957040
It really is
>>165957140
Chauvels pls. The anatomy is always, always off and she cannot animate for SHIT
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Guy from another general here.
How you living? Looking forward to Mania.
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>>165957370
>Chauvels pls

You don't have to be her to know her work is enjoyable. She's not my favorite artist, but I enjoy her work.

Calm down.
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>>165957521
Just waiting on word from Archie. Funny how the games are looking good while the comics are getting in trouble.
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>>165957521
Honestly my favorite part of Mania is that they're sticking to the Pinkish Knuckles from Chaotix.

Just like I'm extremely glad they're not using the hideous design for Sonic's sprite from Sonic 3.
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>>165957749
Yeah, I was glad to see the Sonic 1 and 2 sprite back for Mania
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>>165957521
yes, whitehead knows his stuff
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>>165957253
>>165957370
I mean I like their stuff. It ain't perfect or nothing but shit man. There's a LOT worse out there.
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>>165957521
It's been a hectic few days. We're facing a possible cancellation of the Sonic comic books (it's possible it is just a hiatus) and it's freaked a lot out.

Mania looks cool, but it's been awhile since new news outside of the Switch announcement.
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>>165957521
>Looking forward to Mania.

Same. Granted I would've loved to see Amy as a playable in the game, but I'm still hyped for it.
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>>165957896
Nah. DBZ porn in general tends to be shit simply because people imitate Toriyama's non-sexy anatomy. There's maybe 2 good DBZ porns. That on top of Chauvel's personal issues make it pretty fucking awful.
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>>165958108
Link to these works?
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Knuckles jobbing to Shadow made me drop Sonic X I never read the comics back then but even then I felt that was bullshit, of course I was already on the verge of doing so because of the Chaotix being reduced to this joke
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>>165958193
The only one I can remember is the doujin with DB Mai. Should be easy to find.
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>>165958108
>because people imitate Toriyama's non-sexy anatomy.
Actually, they botch up Toriyama's style. There's porn out there that mimics his style AND look good, too. You have to sift through a lot of shit, though. He can draw some damn good females.
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>>165958108
What are her issues anyways
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I don't particularly feel like shitting on an artist as long as they're not full of themselves. At least chauvels took some constructive criticism and stopped giving everyone bodybuilder shoulders. Granted I don't particularly think they're anything special either but in the grand scheme of things they're really inoffensive and it takes a special breed of aspergers to shitpost about it.
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>>165943168
Their feet are blobs though.
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Let's talk about fanartists we like, instead
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>>165958048
Please take this as an entirely untrustworthy anonymous comment, but the same source I had on the comics getting cancelled was in contact with the Mania team and there's a few things that might come of it:

>Possible shift to a Mania comic if SEGA is interested in the pitch
>More characters in Mania (like the Chaotix) is something they want to do but it's all a matter of whether or not SEGA gives the go-ahead.

This "Someone" is making / has made their move now and those two things are best possible scenarios that could come out of it. The future of Sonic print media is in SEGA's hands.

>>165958516
Does Tyson Hesse still count as a fanartist? If not, I enjoy Joeadok.
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>>165958516
Sallyhot and Tamers12345 are the only good sonic artists
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>>165958108
>Toriyama's non-sexy anatomy
U wot?
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>>165958108
Porn in generall rarely imitates the artstyle of what it's porn to normally though, not including when it's using edited official art like with Overwatch SFMs.
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>>165958313
>heads that adhere too closely to shapes, makes them look like literal blockheads
>bruce timm shoulder syndrome
>limbs lack detail and don't bend properly, too thick on Sonic characters
>gross torso
>man-torso and man-jaw on most females
It's why I can't dig her lewds. I'm not a gay. Not yet at least. She's better than she used to be but her drawings don't feel organic.
>>165958624
I meant what >>165958289 said. Toriyama drew some good girls but everyone that tries to imitate him and draw the girls look like shit.
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>>165958607
Thing is, it doesn't look like they're getting cancelled anymore, if anything it looks like things are changing in real time, so that info could be outdated by now
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>>165958607
I'd prefer if they continue Mega Drive as the start of a new comic that eventually shifts to the Adventure era in a couple years, if there even is a new comic. The problem with comic adaptions of games is there's no point reading them when you can just play the games. Mega Drive is good because it's brand new. Do more like that, do less like Genesis of a Hero.

And I doubt new characters will be in since the game is being released in a couple months. Last time they rushed in a brand new character last minute we got Advance 2 Cream. It'd be nice to get classic Amy playable but I'm not going to hold my breath, at least not until Mania 2.
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>>165958836
Did I miss something? Did we get any indication that they were coming back, or is this just denial? Or do you think Mega Man wasn't cancelled either?
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>>165959036
For starters, the release dates of the issues were changed. And not to something like TBD or TBA, but concrete dates. At worst they were delayed, and it's been confirmed that the Comixology dates of the 27th of December were placeholders (Someone got in contact with them).

Nothing concrete yet, but that along with the Archie rep saying that the subs being gone was temporary AND updating the sub page makes things look at least a bit better than they were before
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>>165959036
Archie changed their tone on a phone call late yesterday saying subscriptions being gone is temporary thing. A complete 180 from the caller being told the titles might be cancelled, whether this is truthful or damage control is unknown.

Archie also pushed back the release dates of the next issues of StH and SU to late February/early March. Some are taking this as a positive sign.

A weird thing is that they haven't updated future issues release dates (as it stands StH 292 is slated to come out before 291). Maybe this will change with April solicits next week.

Comixology confirmed the dates they have right now are placeholders and Archie hasn't informed them of when they are releasing.

Things look more optimistic, but we aren't anywhere out of the woods yet.
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>>165959230
>AND updating the sub page makes things look at least a bit better than they were before
Where? The subs page looks the same.
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>>165959798
They only updated the covers, but it's interesting they'd do that.
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>>165959882
To their own comics, but Sonic's taken down pages have stayed the same.

The ones saying "unavailable" has Champions cover and Spark of Life cover. They haven't changed.
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>FE Echoes is 3DS Exclusive

Not even an FE fan but that's just fucking stupid and even after that big ass Switch event.
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How does licensing work with digital issues?

I would think if SEGA pulled the license that they'd have to take them down too, no?
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>>165958608
Who and who?
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>>165960441
Anon, without the second screen how will waifufags touch their waifus. They have to appeal to them, those fuckers saved that piece of shit franchise
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Hey, /sthg/, what did they mean by this?
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>>165960541
What if Sticks is the new character in Sonic '17?
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>>165961253
She isn't new.
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>>165961253
Honestly that'd probably be the most likely result. She'd also be purely comedic relief and not do anything, because nobody outside of Sonic is allowed to do anything relevant
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>>165961038
>he doesnt know who Tamers12345 is
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>>165961353
She's new to the main series. And she appeared in those Sonic Channel comics.
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>>165961447
I'm pretty sure that the wording was "completely new", but I was unable to find the part of the video where that was said. Maybe she will show up and something else that is completely new will appear too.

However, searching for the source of that quote I found the part where Iizuka mentions the ratio of old to new levels in Mania and he also mentions that a completely new item would be in Mania. Everyone (myself included) pretty much forgot about that.

So, any guesses?
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>>165961253
They should give her a pair of gloves at least. Sheesh.
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>>165963000
>Iizuka mentions the ratio of old to new levels in Mania

go on?

>>165963148
no. nothing wrong with some variety.
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>>165958607
A Mania comic would be interesting.
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>>165963364
It'd probably have to be a stealth mini though, since I doubt it could be an ongoing for long
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Iizuka considered the Chaotix new characters when they appeared in Heroes. Saying there will be a new character means absolutely nothing. It could be a helper-of-the-day like Chip or Yacker, it could be a reimagined classic character, it could be Sticks since she'd be new to the main continuity, it could be yet another Sonic variant like Classic and the Werehog, it could be anything.
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>>165961253
ill be disappointed. I wasnt impressed with her boom debut. I dont mind her but at least she properly wont be playable if its her
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>>165963000
https://twitter.com/PushDustIn/status/792004664317194240

It's from a Japanese quote.
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>>165963454
hang on what if it's some sort of future sonic?

Sonic as a grizzled old bastard
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>>165963454
I'm hoping that having Aaron there means the communication will be clearer and what is said reflects what's actually going to happen, and that if a rumor that's not actually true and is based on something that was said by them starts spreading they're going to clarify what they meant to express.
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>>165963454
>it could be a reimagined classic character
Y'know what? It just might be.
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>>165963604
Not surprising I wasn't able to find the source. Well, at least I remembered one thing right.
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what if the new character is Mighty
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I think it's time to take another break from /sthg/.

See you and behave yourself, /sthg/!
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>>165964680
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>>165964360
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>>165964680
Enjoy your break.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uipt68Tghl8
Like, wow
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>>165963454
>>165964360
>>165964021

I've got my fingers crossed for Fang/Nack. Even if he's not playable, I'd like to see him return as a minor villain, and maybe even stick around.

Mighty wouldn't be a bad choice either, but I'd prefer Fang.
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>>165965235
What shit art.

And Dreamcast and Modern Sonic are the same Sonic.
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>>165960441
That alone made me decide to hack my 3ds to pirate it.
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>>165958607
Are you the same rumor guy who posted the comics getting canned around the holidays or are you a different one?
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>>165965761
Yeah I was around pushing that rumor I think it was Christmas day but i'm working with old information and if >>165959657 is right then Archie may have negotiated a way out of whatever led SEGA call on them to halt production.
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>>165958607
>please take as an entirely untrustworthy anonymous comment, but-

Why would you even post this faggot?
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>>165966226
That's what I'm thinking. Seems this is unfolding in real time
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Do the comic's low direct sales matter at all? We don't have sales numbers for any other market.
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Fill out this chart and join the official /sthg/ Kool Kidz Klub!
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>>165966690
They are a small piece of the pie.
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>>165966791
Blank version?
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>>165966791
Template.
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>>165966226
Perhaps they are still negotiating or waiting to see the Fulop case unfold or get thrown out.
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abt is still taking commissions if anyone cares
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>>165967208
Honey offering clothes to Cream who looks weirded out by it.
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>>165967773
Cool idea, now tell that to ABT and pay up
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>no one understands me!

>>165967773
I think he means paid commissions on DA
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>>165967208
Sally doesn't participate in Christmas joy, she only celebrates Bitchmas!
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>>165968000
>I'm not a bitter person
>Which is why I've tried to demean and downplay the current creative team and accuse Ian of stealing my ideas
>As well as claim that I'm more important than anyone else who's ever worked on the comic
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Honestly I think it all comes down to Riverdale.

If Riverdale does okayish or well, then Archie can go up to Sega and be all "hello SEGA, we are the respectable multimedia company Archie Comics Incorporated. We've made mistakes in the past, but as you can clearly see they are behind us!"

If it flops, then Sega sees a bunch of incompetent ninnies digging themselves into a deeper hole, and Sega would want none of that.

So yeah. Watch Riverdale if you want to rescue Sonic, I guess?
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>>165968721
All that would tell them is that they can bank on Riverdale and don't need anything else
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>>165968721
Fuck Riverdale. Archie can burn to the ground, nothing will ever change what a horrible retarded company they are.
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I drew Amy.
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>>165968952
i like it
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>>165968721
Fuck off Archie PR shill faggot.

Archie just needs to stop fucking reprinting pre reboot stuff and focus on creating a new library and keeping their contracts in check.

Will probably just depend on how much Sega cares about the comics as a form of advertising.
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>>165968952
Amy/10
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>>165968721
I'm fucking sick and tired of them holding the comic hostage every time they screw up, which is very often. What the fuck is this? Now besides paying we have to keep up with demands or else? If that's the premise then fuck it, they're gonna keep fucking up every time at the end of each year.
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there are acrchie sonic characters that have been around for 20 years, a good run desu
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>>165968952
it is
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>>165968000
I know he blocked me because he despised my alternate universe transgender, robot pirate octopus take on his charac-- I mean, my very original IP that he feels threatened by.
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>>165927251
It's funny how Shadow is like the fifth ranger when it comes to the "main four" cast. Wasn't it supposed to be Cream, though? Not counting Eggman or Metal Sonic since they're the main villain and evil minion respectively.
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>>165968815
Yeah, no. Archie has had successful TV shows in the past. They didn't ditch Sonic.

Look, they've spend decades building up Sonic, it's a reliable source of TPB sales.

SEGA technically owns all of it, all that Archie has is exclusive printing rights. If Archie were to walk away from the relationship it would mean Sega would just go to some other company and print the comics, and then Archie would've spent all that time developing the property only to get scooped by a rival.

They need Riverdale to do well to keep some money in the bank and to look like a respectable competent publisher that can do business with a company like Sega.

If the success of Sabrina didn't make them walk away from Sonic, then Riverdale doing okayish sure as hell wouldn't do it.
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>>165968952
Sweet angel baby <3
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>>165968721
Reading posts on SSMB, apparently there was a rumor SEGA of Japan ordered them to stop production.

I know there was something awhile back about Japan not being happy about Boom and ending that branch after season 2. Maybe that could tie in to that?

God, I hate that there's so many downer rumors, where are the good ones?
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>>165968005
Is the Bitchmas tradition an opposite of the Christmas tradition, like being a bitch to others?
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So the Sonic comic is getting cancelled and yet My Little Pony of all things got a brand new comic series announced today. The world is cruel.
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>>165969445
Sally celebrates it every day of the year!
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>>165969479
Well it isn't cancelled yet. We don't know what is happening with it.
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>>165969105
Be as sick of the situation as you like, it's the way the dice fell. Between the Penders fiasco, Fullop pulling his shit, and other dumb shit Archie is in a financially poor situation, and needs Riverdale to at least break even both to keep some money in the bank and to look competent enough for Sega to do business with. If the Archie series ends it's HIGHLY unlikely that Sega will bother starting up a new series with IDW or anyone (although they might sell trades of the old stuff). Is the situation shitty? Yeah. Does Archie have complete idiots in charge? Yeah. That's just how it is. The hard work of a skilled writing and art staff is riding on the boneheaded idea by management to make a grimdark Archie show.
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>>165969186
Yeah, they were pushing Cream as the 5th character for a while, but it really didn't pan out.

>>165968952
10/10 Best Girl.
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>>165966791
Rate my contrarian tastes
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>>165969730
>skilled art staff

there's like 3 good artists on Sonic whose fairly decent work is routlinely dragged down by shitters who have been in the business longer

spaziante is a fucking hack
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>>165969909
We don't need a fifth anyway. Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Amy are perfection!
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>>165969364
>Rumor

In the case of this fandom, with no supporting evidence, "a rumor" means "speculation someone pulled out of their ass".

Honestly I would've believed it a year ago, but in 2017 they would want to have a comic series to go with the new game, and there's not enough time to start from stretch with another company.

SEGA just ordering Archie to make things more in line with the games. SEGA canceling the comic the same year as a new game with nothing to replace it just isn't very plausible.
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>>165970060
Sonic
Sonic's Sidekick
Sonic's Rival
Sonic's Love-Interest
And...
Sonic's Shadow-Archetype
It's perfect
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>>165970060
replace Knuckles with someone like Mighty tbdesu

as much as I love Knux he kind of has obligations to be hanging out on Angel Island most of the time.

i like to theorize that Angel Island proper was actually largely destroyed after the second drop in Sonic Adventure (when Chaos pulled it out of the sky to take the six Emeralds there. and then that's why his living on Holy Summit in Battle becomes a thing.
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>tfw realizing that even if the comic continues, I'll likely never feel like it is completely safe from dying ever again
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>>165969970
>big arms

My nigga
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Eggman is the main reason to watch Boom. Sticks is a distant second.

The "core Sonic" characters are as amusing as a root canal.
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>>165970457
Core 4 is an autistic thing, they just don;t like change.
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>>165970069
>and there's not enough time to start from stretch with another company.
Theoretically, if Sega really did own everything from the Archie comic, they could have the new company hire the existing staff and continue the comic from where it left off. If they do it seamlessly enough that from the perspective of the creative staff it'd just be a change in editorial. If Sega or the other company doesn't want to continue the Archie continuity, then they can spinoff Mega Drive as the basis for the new monthly comic. This gives them three months of reprints to work with while the creative staff does up new issues, and Mega Drive would work for Sega since it's not tied to Archie continuity and works for nostalgia pandering. Then since Adventure's 20th anniversary is in a couple years, Mega Drive could transition to the Adventure era after 20 or so issues.
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>>165970639
Sega likely has next to no interest in keeping the Freedom Fighters given the opportunity to phase them out.
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>>165970824
If Sega wanted to actually phase them out then it would've happened with the reboot. Remember Sega puts their stamp of approval on everything the comic does these days. They're obviously fine with cartoon characters and OCs as long as the game characters get the focus, which is easier with Universe.
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>>165970358
Knuckles' obligations are a large part of what makes him "Sonic's Rival". Sonic is a free spirit, so... his Rival has obligations and responsibilities that hold him back, and his love interest chases after him to find romance and marriage while he just wants adventure.
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Imagine if SEGA and Archie work this out the and the comics get to continue and it is set up to end when the main book hits #300 and Universe hits #100.
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>>165970937
They almost certainly did want to phase them out with the reboot, Ian undoubtedly fought for them to stay.
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>>165970946
What I mean is,

Because of who Sonic is, his Sidekick, Rival, Love Interest, and so on have to be a certain way in order for their relation to Sonic to make sense with his character.
Sonic is a free spirit who loves adventure, he's like the wind, so his Rival, the guy who counters Sonic, has to be the opposite. Which means responsibilites, obligations, destiny and purpose, things that can hold Knuckles back and keep him aligned to the concept of "order". And because of Sonic's free-spirited adventurous nature, his love interest can't be a girlfriend he's officially dating and clearly in love with or tries to pursue, the girl has to be the one to chase after him because Sonic just doesn't care about romance and comittment.
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>>165970946
He's a good Sonic's Rival, especially when he isn't a jobber and is actually seen as being of a similar power level, he just doesn't work as any kind of long-term "travels around with the gang" character.
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>tfw 3 of my favorite cartoons ended up being cancelled earlier than they should have been cancelled years ago
At least I still have the sonic comics...r-right?
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>>165971230
Yes but again, Sega approves everything in the comics. If they didn't want the Freedom Fighters then they would've said no, period, and there wouldn't be anything Ian or the others could do about it. If they didn't want Egg Bosses or underwater fish people or any other OCs or any other redesigned cartoon characters then they would've said no. Chances are what Sega really wanted was to make sure the Freedom Fighters didn't step on the game characters' focus.
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>>165966791
Behold my tastes in music, AND DESPAIR!
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>>165969970
I forgot Sky Road was even a level in Lost World
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>>165969909
Yeah, and I could see why. It could be that she's like a tag-a-long kid and a lot of people don't find that appealing about her. Shadow being a fifth character of the group makes sense since he looks like the type who is not part of the group, but will still join in if necessary.
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>>165970639
the rights to the OC might belong to Archie
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>>165971715
Everything belongs to Sega.
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>>165971432
What are those cartoons you're talking about?
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>>165971516
>Yeah, and I could see why. It could be that she's like a tag-a-long kid and a lot of people don't find that appealing about her.

That, and pretty much everything about her was seen as WAY too cutesy by American (and, to a lesser extent, European) fans, while the Japanese adored her.

>>165971715
IIRC, all OCs created for the TV shows and comics (Penders' bullcrap notwithstanding) legally belong to Sega of America.
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>>165971407
>he just doesn't work as any kind of long-term "travels around with the gang" character.
And yet, that's also what his role as "Sonic's Rival" entails for him. A regularly appearing main character that's meant to be the protagonist's rival.

Usually that kind of role means that The Rival either does
>A) Doing that things in the background during the Hero's Adventure with the purpose of fighting the Hero and proving themself superior, usually while working with/for/manipulated by the Villain or something
>B) Doing things on their own in the background during the Hero's Adventure with the purpose of helping and assisting the Hero fight the Villain and save the day and stuff.

Or at least, that's what I've seen characters like that do.
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>>165958607
>joeadok
uh-oh, someone brought up adok! better get down before someone gets triggered.
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The problem with Cream&Cheese as the 5th member of the 'Core 4' is that she has to direct link to Sonic. Like, Cream&Cheese is Amy's Sidekick. Meaning, she's The Love-Interest's Sidekick, similar to Rouge being The Rival's Rival/Love-Interest. Characters like Cream&Cheese, and Rouge, exist outside the 'Core' because they aren't directly connected to Sonic. They are connected to characters that ARE directly linked to Sonic, without having a clear connection to Sonic himself.
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>>165972268

Deena is top tier
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>>165961167
tonight
>you
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>>165972217
what

what happened? i haven't kept up with them lately.
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>>165972241
Cream was not introduced as Amy's Sidekick. She was introduced as her own character, they just chose to delegate her to that role later and not much else (which is unfortunate).
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>>165972268
thats cute and all but, would a fish need a swimsuit?
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>>165972735
Cream&Cheese was created for Heroes as Team Rose' Flight member, but was introduced early in Advance 2 and X so that people knew who she was before Heroes' release.
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>>165972735
Cream was literally created for the primary purpose of being Amy's sidekick in Heroes, she just had early bird cameos in X and Advance 2 before Heroes came out. This is why she's so broken in Advance 2 because she was added later in the dev cycle.
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>>165972867
so they won't be naked?
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>>165972910
>>165972939
Ah, I was under the impression she was made for Sonic X, rather than Heroes. I'll take y'all's word for it though.
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>>165972613
anytime some post joeadok art, somebody claims who ever posted it is joe himself trying to get people to notice him
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>>165965512
Weren't they considering n having them be different characters while makng generations?
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>>165973045
Wow, that's dumb as shit. I've posted joeadok art before. I mean, he does really good work? I don't know anyone else who can make some of the dumbest Archie and Cartoon originals actually look kind of okay.
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>>165972968
they have normal clothes for that
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>>165966791
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>>165971432
Isn't htat like half of sonic cartoons?
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>>165973197
drawloverlala?
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>>165973372
i like her too but i don't remember her drawing any archie characters recently
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>>165973089
Drummond said he got an offer for it but turned it down because he would've needed to quit his agency and reprising his role in a single anniversary game with no other guaranteed work wouldn't have been financially justifiable.

That said, I don't see how Japan would've given a shit one way or the other about American VAs. Both Eggmen had the same VA and both Tails had the same VA (except in Japan only) so if they were intent on including a third Sonic then RCS probably would've just voiced him instead. It was probably just an idea they were kicking around but didn't include.
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>>165972939
Doesn't she cameo in Sonic Adventure 1?
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>>165973632
Only in DX, which was released less than a year before Heroes.
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>>165973632
>Doesn't she cameo in Sonic Adventure 1?

In Adventure DX, yes. In the original Dreamcast version, no.
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>>165971835
Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and Green Lantern:The Animated Series

I just hope the comics don't go the same route, at least not without a proper end.
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>>165972910
>>165972939
Actually, she and Emerl were created for Sonic X. That's why Ian couldn't use them in the comics, despite Advance 2 and Battle already being out.
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>>165960441
Well, for what it is worth, the new one will be on the switch.
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>>165972268
Fuck, this is great but the light rays and the shine take the cake. The latter is actually mildly distracting.
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>>165974227
Ok, I'm pretty sure your comment on Emerl is bullshit, even though X's adaptation of Battle was clearly created by someone who read a one sentence summary of the game on the back of the box and knew fuck all about the character or story.
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>>165974227
Proof?
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>>165974227
They weren't created for Sonic X, they were just considered Sonic X characters, but their reason for existing was Sonic Heroes and Sonic Battle.
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when watching sonic X i wondered why they adapted sonic battle. Then i realised it came out at the time and they adapted Sa1/Sa2 because of the gamecube rereleases.
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>>165974790
is adapting the games a good form of advertisement? i mean they kinda spoil the story
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>>165975076
If it's a good game then spoiling the story is irrelevant
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>>165975076
it helps the games get into the zeitgiest
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>>165975076
Only if the adaption is good.
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>>165972867
Princess gotta be fashionable
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>>165972268
Deena/10
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>Boom Shadow has a castle in his own image in Fire & Ice
Is that why he called Sonic a disgrace to hedgehog-kind? Also where the hell would his castle be in a small island that Sonic lives?
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>>165976454
wait WHAT? you're serious?
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>>165976454
what?
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>>165972867
She likes fashion. She worked as a model.
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>>165973045
Suuuuuure, joeadok.
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>>165976591
point has been proven
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>>165976454
im looking for this at what point in the game is this? gothic garden?
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>>165976454
Where?
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>>165969186
I guess being popular has its perks. I'm so glad that he is.
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>>165976783
yes its the castle stage.
There's a flag with his symbol on it
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>>165976591
What the fuck is up with those legs?
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>>165977003
I'm amazed Shadow is so popular when he hasn't had a major game appearance since 06.
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>>165977067
All those chili dogs went right to his thighs
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>>165977209
How do you think he runs so fast? Chili-dog fueled legs.
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well i found the symbol on a flag
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>>165977060
it finally happened.
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They need to add a pig character.
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>>165977447
>Hamlin
How about never again?
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king shadow is cannon
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So people on SSMB are talking about the idea of SEGA pulling the license too, & say that people need to tweet, facebook, etc. SEGA to let them know they don't want the comics to die.
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>>165977447
>what was his deal?
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>>165947348
He hated being known as the Sanic guy and disavowed anything to do with it. Even deleted his YouTube.

Sanic's free for grabs.
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>>165977705
He's a petty bitch who fucks over the heroes out of spite and jealousy, nothing more, nothing less
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>>165977523
>>165977705
Alright lemme rephrase: Add a farm mammal for obvious and shameless lewding.
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>>165977171
I guess he went out with the swerving towards a lighter/streamlined approach.

he only returns because of his popularity. although I expected him to get a bigger part in the Boom games is if it was more successful.

the middle ground seems to be to have him appear but no too much
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>>165977904
Do we have goats? From what little of StC I read I know there's sheep
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>>165977904
the only time i saw a pig be somewhat sexy was in zootopia and that was like for 6 seconds
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>>165978001
>"Shoot it in my maaaaouth!"
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>>165977653
I wonder if you could email SEGA to see what they have to say. Probably won't say anything, but hey, it could be worth a shot.
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>>165978142
Look up Cyancapsule, Emelle.
You are welcome
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>>165954192
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>>165978587
Which comic is this?
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>>165978142
What about that one Pig mom from SING?
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>>165978658
New 52 Wonder Woman.
It's not that great.
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>>165978701
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>>165976783
i was expecting a castle shaped like his head or something
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>>165978749
Azz run or Finch run?
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>>165978816
Azz
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>>165978957
Okay, I'll give it a shot
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I don't remember anything from the Sonic 4s and I never played 3D Blast.
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>>165957253
>DBZ porn
>ever good
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there's a level in sonic boom fire and Ice called Ragna Rock
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>>165978701
Eh, 6/10.
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What? the comics are ending??
Well, seems about time I ask this:
It's been a while since I've stopped reading the comics... and now I'm lost. Last issue I've read was... sometime after the reboot, the part where they got Rotor back on their team, I think? Parallel to that story, there was the Universe comic, an arc starring Team Dark against some kind of alien? dark Shadow? something like that.

Can you point me which issues (arc) they are? Also, -oh shit, I remember there was the building to the second Megaman crossover... I've stopped reading them too goddammit
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>>165979463
>Parallel to that story, there was the Universe comic, an arc starring Team Dark against some kind of alien? dark Shadow? something like that.
Oh you're thinking of Shadow Fall. Yea that's pretty good. SU 59-62 is what you're looking for
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>>165979463
That would be issue #253 and Universe #59. You're about 3 issues behind on the main comic though, Universe #59 was the same month as main #256.

And the second crossover was complete garbage and self-retcons itself so skip it completely.
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>>165951292
I often had the idea of him being rescued by G.U.N., making amends with Hope and joining their ranks as a R&D scientist. Basically what happened post-reboot, only with more added emotion
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>>165951292
>reminder Snively was on the Wily Egg, which actually exists in Blaze's world in the new continuity, now.
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>>165979839
That sounds sweet. Until you realize that this arc ended with Eggman finding out where Hope was, and likely sending someone to splatter the walls with her
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>>165979887
Except the Genesis Wave made it so that the crossover still happened but aligned with the post-reboot universe which means Snively was never in the Wily Egg.
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>>165979463
There's nothing official right now that they are ending, but something is definitely going on and cancellation is a very possible scenario. There's also the possibility of it just being delayed or on hiatus.

Until Archie speaks officially, we are mostly in the dark.
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>>165979961
Not with Team Dark and the whole of G.U.N. protecting her.

Shame they couldn't stop the Super Genesis Wave though
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>>165980131
I like to believe that somewhere out there, all the characters that didn't survive the wave exist in some way, shape or form. Be it by spirit or off-screen. Being wiped out of existence because of fat, petty prick with no one remembering you sounds like the cruelest fate imaginable.
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>>165979341
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>>165980017
Actually, since the Sol Zone was protected by the Jeweled Scepter, it's highly possible that Snively Robotnik still rests in the Egg o' War. After all, Metal Sonic v3.3, now known as Captain Metal, exists in the Sol Zone despite Eggman only making the one Metal Sonic in his own time.
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>>165980532
Thanks, doc.
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>>165980475
They can't exist elsewhere, because they never existed in the first place. This isn't your run-of-the-mill Infinite Crisis or Flashpoint. They literally never existed. They're gone. Forever.
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>>165980475
hey anon for all we know a version of hope is safely in somewhere in Soleana
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>>165980703
And soon the whole book will be.
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>>165980703
Except in fanon. We'll always have fanon.
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>>165979575
>>165979820

Nice! thanks for pointing out, I can make my way with the wiki then.

..heh, I remember I wasn't understanding the Shadow plot... and, honestly, the reboot thing threw me off...thing is I was on a bittersweet mood.. but now I feel fresh.
And, oh yeah, Rotor or Sally, I dont remember who was last to be back... I think they were going to finally confront Eggman...

>>165980039
Oh, so no official "we are ending"? is that so? Can I ask for a summary about what is going on this time??
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>>165980703
And that's why I hate the way they chose to do a "soft" reboot.
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>>165980703
Oh.

I'd almost want to say that they should DC: Rebirth it, but that would involve Penders getting paid royalties, and approving of the stories they would make.

>>165980810
This is true.

>>165980757
We can only dream.
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>>165980703
the sonic comics cover so many comics ages and tropes in a span of 20+ what dc and marvel have in 70+
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>>165980703
Was Amy's cousin Rob retconned too?
I assume his wife and kid definitely are because Penders
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>>165976527
>>165976528
>>165976783
>>165976965
see
>>165977060
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>>165980929
>And, oh yeah, Rotor or Sally, I dont remember who was last to be back... I think they were going to finally confront Eggman...
I'm thinking Sally too. Give it another shot and keep going anon
>>165981068
Rob O is gone. Let's put it this way, any character that wasn't
>From the games
>From SaTAM
>From AoSTH
>Created by Ian
Is gone.
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>>165981115
>>165977406
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>>165981068
He was replaced before the reboot even happened.
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>>165981068
was there ever a point to Rob being Amy cousin?
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>>165980757
Nah, there is no hope just like there is no Hope.
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>>165981257
Outside of getting Amy out of the book, not really. He was pretty much Amy's equivalent of Rotor's family, an excuse to put a character on a bus for a while
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>>165981257
Was there ever a point in Rob?
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>>165981407
Robin Hood analogue because Penders was an Anglophile (And yet when M25YL rolled around he showed how little he knows about royalty)
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>>165981194
That's a shame. I actually liked some of the pre reboot characters like Finitevus.
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>>165981645
Same. Fuck Penders, he's a greedy cunt
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>>165981598
is it sad i know what an Anglophile is because of phineas and ferb?
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>>165980929
>Can I ask for a summary about what is going on this time?

Archie cancelled the FCBD Sonic comic in favor of Riverdale. Soon after, a user on SSMB noticed that Archie took down the Sonic subscription page.

Once the work week resumed on Tuesday after the holiday, a user made a call to Archie's order support and they were told that they were no longer taking subscriptions for the Sonic books right now until they have more information. When asked if this meant the books might be cancelled, they received a yes and that 290 would be the last book to hit shelves.

After that there were two other calls, one mostly saying that they do not have information .
The third call was completely different, saying that the subscriptions being off the site is temporary.

Since then, Archie pushed back the release date of the comic that was supposed to come last week by about a month along with a Universe comic for a few weeks.

Archie hasn't made any official statements on the books. Skelly is the only one from the comic staff that has talked about the situation. The rest have been silent on the matter. She was mostly saying that she doesn't know what is happening and that it is weird that they would stop all of this out of the blue when there would be 4 issues worth of unused material should it be cancelled now.

There's nothing left but rumors and speculation.
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>>165981598
Okay yes, but was there an actual point in the narrative where Robert O'Hedge was actually important in the story relative to Sonic and friends?
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>accurate representation of Penders writing process.
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>>165981816
>that was supposed to come last week
*next week
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>>165981848
Well he helped save them from Armand when he was evil iirc, he helped Knuckles find Albion, and one more thing I forget.
>>165981936
That implies too much effort. He likely picks a random Star Trek episode from his collection and "takes inspiration from it" for his new story
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>>165981848
As was the case with most preboot characters, no, he was fucking useless.
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>>165981848
He was important whenever there was a story that happened in Mercia but was generally unimportant outside of that. He stuck to his own side of the world almost all the time.
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Reminder that Penders still think Eggman is Roborotnik despite the comic saying otherwise. Someone called him out on it and he said look at issues 19, 75, and 76
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>>165982120
I mean robo robotnik
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>>165982120
>look at issues 19, 75, and 76
This only makes me even more worried for when he'll actually try to incorporate the Super Genesis Wave in TLSC.
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>>165982120
>Look at the pre-reboot for evidence for this thing about the reboot which rendered all of it non canon
Penders logic is something else man. Does he think he invented Eggman's SA design?
>>165982107
>He stuck to his own side of the world almost all the time.
You could say that for the majority of the cast. It's crazy how isolated things got at times. I don't think Knuckles and Sonic even talked for a solid few YEARS pre-reboot
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who are the WORST freedom fighters?
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>>165982539
Forty Fathom Freedom Fighters. I mean LOOK AT THEM
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>>165982647
Bivalve is a national treasure.
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>>165982761
He's the only saving grace
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>>165982647
if they had post reboot designs they would be husbando/waifu bait
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Why don't we fuck over Ken's Twitter just for the hell of It?
Too many people replying to him either suck his dick or try to reason with him in frustration.
We should tear him a new asshole.
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>>165982647
Don't you dare talk shit on my nigga Bivalve Clam
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>>165982985
Too much effort
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>>165982985
Toby already did that by himself the other night.
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>>165983090
Imagine being overrun though.
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>>165982985

>blocked
>blocked
>blocked
>blocked
>Ken Penders' tweets are protected. Only firends can view blah blah blah
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Barby koala? more like Barby Cougar
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>>165983136
It would lead to the same results (getting blocked). Not worth it.
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>>165982985
settle down A-rod
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>>165981816
Ah, I see.
Well, it's not like I understand that much of the world behind the comics, but given your summary, it certainly fits the conclusion:
>There's nothing left but rumors and speculation.
Sounds like an "off" scenario. Only time will do the proper process and give the final answer.


Amazing, splendid. Thank you very much anon, great work.
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What's going on here?
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will ever see her again?
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>>165972268
My Hdick
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>>165983090
Explain.
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>>165983586
scourge fighting stc sonic
eggman nega with a super weapon
anti robotnik helping underground sonic
satam sonic beating x (archie) eggman
x (archie) fighting metal (archie?)
aosth sonic and robotnik injured
captin whisker chasing blaze
eggman(archie?) chasing sonic (archie?)
zonic about to stop nega
some ben bates commison that would have been a story if it wasnt for mandates i image
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>>165983975
A couple of nights ago, Toby got drunk & did this

https://twitter.com/TobyTheMediocre/with_replies
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>>165983471
There are many eyes watching Archie and anything related to book, so we'll see eventually.
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>>165983724
We will if the comic isn't cancelled. Albion is Mordred's domain and it was already mentioned soon after the reboot started that the Albion Freedom Fighters were the main thorn in his side, led by Bow. Obviously Rob and his wife and kid are gone, I think so is the deer friar, but the rest are Ian's.
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>>165984409
I wouldn't be surprised if they're at least mentioned in SU95 considering the topic of the issue
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>>165984409
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>>165955120
>30 seconds

it was a nearly instant fight that happened in a frozen time state IIRC, but that in the game it was represented as 30 seconds.
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>>165984778
i never liked 30 seconds of final egg blaster just like i never liked 5 minutes on namek
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>>165982816
>if they had post reboot designs they would be husbando/waifu bait

Is there a drawfag who's up for this challenge?
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>>165969479
They do a better job of advertising their comic
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>>165969479
>>165986103
Justice will be done, sooner or later. Just wait until they sink all their money into a live action Equestria Girls TV show.
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>>165969479
If nothing else, perhaps IDW can beg Sega to let them have the Sonic comic rights so that they both can make pony-level cash off of it.
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How do you respond to someone who believes that Sega's mandates are just something Ian came up with to shift all blame away from himself?
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>>165982539
Original FFs
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>>165987156
Ask him why Ian would even mention or take the mandates under account if he had no intention of using them, as seen with the Freedom Fighters.
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>>165987156
Incredulity that Sega, even now, would somehow not put restrictions on their licensed material even after becoming aware of it. Mandates are a thing in anything remotely licensed. I haven't read the Transformers or TMNT comics, but don't those have mandates, or at least the ones based off of something

The idea that a company in this day and age wouldn't exert their influence over something that has their license involved is absurd
>>165987354
I take back my answer of the Forty Fathom FFs, because these guys are much worse. No purpose, they actively undermine the main characters via retcon, and they're not even meme worthy
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>>165987156
You don't. Someone that stupid isn't worth talking to.
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>>165987354
god there ugly
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>>165969479
I wonder how many comics MLP has by now.
I remember reading them some years ago and enjoying it.
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>>165987354
>these are supposed to be Sonic characters
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>>165987354
the only good thing about that arc was the way spaz drew hope in sonic adventure style on one of the cover
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>>165987576
>>165987576
The worst part is that they make the snake the traitor because "He's a snake lol". I'm convinced Sonic made up this story on the spot
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>>165987354
When that snake betrayed his team
>I'm a snake. It's totally in my nature.

Yeah, these guys are even worse. The other preboot Not-Knothole FFs are bland and boring, but they at least have good thing in each team.
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>>165987605
humans really shouldn't have their styles changed to mesh with sonic-types imo

but then again i was never all that bothered by the hyperrealistic humans in Sonic 06, though i'll concede that Unleashed definitely handled things better
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>>165987550
Are we talking just the main book, or are we also including the spin-offs (similar to how Sonic has had the Knuckles comic and Sonic Universe), one-shots (analogous to the Super Specials), and short event-arcs?
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>>165987605
Ew, why do they clash so much? Hope is not a good artist, is she?
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>>165987605
I see shit like this and wonder how anyone could possibly miss this shit.

Glad I'm a gamefag, it's not great but it's better than this.
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>>165988995
>I see shit like this and wonder how anyone could possibly miss this shit.

That's Dark Ages shit. No one misses it.
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>>165989150
It's kind of surprising how a solid third-solid half of the pre-reboot is just shit nobody misses at all
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>>165988995
It's better to be a gamefag while looking at the other stuff on the side then retreat when the other stuff takes a nosedive.
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>>165989472
It's why post 160 is called the renaissance m8.
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Maria should come back as a villain in a game.
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>>165989787
I know, but it's kind of amazing how the comic lasted that long
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>>165989878
Maria should come back and bully Shadow!
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>>165989903
Well it almost did go under during that incredibly boring 25yl arc. It was propped up on ads and Shadow hype after that. If it had still been shit by the time Sonic Unleashed came out I think it would've been shit canned then.
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>>165990347
I forgot how much Shadow was shilled towards the end of the Dark Ages. Yeah, if Ian hadn't come on it would've been dead by Unleashed, given that Shadow's popularity would've likely plummeted after Shadow and 06. Though part of me does wonder how Penders/Gabrie would incorporate Silver and Blaze
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>>165989878
what, as a fucking GUN revived Zombie?
she goes crazy and bite the commanders face off and in the end shadow has to put a bullet in the back of her head. Shadow the Hedgehog 2 coming soon,
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>>165990459
>Though part of me does wonder how Penders/Gabrie would incorporate Silver and Blaze
Also forgot that Pellerito was on the book at the time. Wonder if he would've okayed Penders' original ideas going forward or if he'd push more game elements in there, like Blaze and Silver, but also say, giving more emphasis to Rouge
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>>165972268
It and the commissions he posted look great.

mine is almost done
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How many of you knew that this off panel is a reference to an old fan comic Ian wrote
http://www.sonicverseteam.net/comics/archives_svt/bumbleking/3b01/index.html?00
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>>165990329
That would be nice.
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>>165990806
I am.
It was fun having Jon pop into the thread after I storytimed it
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Are you still mad Tails and Knuckles didn't get Super forms in Heroes?
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>>165991516
Yes, Fuck Iizuka, and his JoJo teeth.
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>>165991516
I'm more mad at Iizuka saying their super forms aren't canon.
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>>165990806
i remember when the off panels were sort of previews to new artist we would be getting
ben bates
jamal peppers
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>>165991516
Yeah, luckily if Taxman gets their way they'll have them in Sonic Mania, possibly even with proper sprites thi
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>>165991723

This.

"Only male hedgehogs" is fucking dumb and makes no sense.
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>>165991516
yes
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>>165991516
IDIOTS.

GO BACK AND PLAY SONIC 3 AND KNUCKLES.

TAILS AND KNUCKLES' "SUPER FORMS" THERE WAS EXACTLY THE SAME AS IN HEROES.
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>>165991827
No it wasn't.
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>>165991827
>Getting a glorified yellow shield
Vs.
>Completely changing the tone of fur, and in Tails' case, getting his Flicky Army of Death.

Are you retarded?
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>>165991827
Pretty sure both forms were more than just grabbing the gold shield from 3D Blast.
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>>165990602
>Penders writing Silver and Blaze

They would have been tied into the enchilada lore for sure. They'd be interesting enough to bring people in, but then the story would be mostly about echilladas.

Shadow was sort of like that in the dark ages IIRC.
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>>165992019
i wasn't ever so big on the flicky army of death and don't feel like it's REALLY necessary to properly represent super tails, but it makes sense as a Hyper-level bonus mechanic (which Tails' Super form basically is)
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To be honest, the Super Emeralds were just bonuses, not part of the actual game. So technically, Knuckles is the only one who should have a Super form.
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>>165992157
Silver would definitely be tied to Mobius 25 Years Later. The only question is how. Actually that assumes Penders would give a shit about knowing anything about Silver.

Blaze would probably get a father similar to Sally's who bosses her around and calls all the shots. Or worst case scenario her father is actually reasonable and she's portrayed as a spoiled brat and somehow this is a message that Sally's father is a good father because he's controllng or some shit
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>>165990459
>Though part of me does wonder how Penders/Gabrie would incorporate Silver and Blaze
They wouldn't have. Penders didn't even use Shadow or Metal Sonic until Pellerito told him to. Neither of them would be used at all outside of "See how the adventure continues in Sonic Rush!" backstories.
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>>165992371
Super Emeralds are in Sonic Adventure AND Sonic Adventure 2.

the concept is canon, whether Hyper-level states are or not.
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>>165991780
does that mean that only female cats can go burning in the sol world?
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>>165992428
You say that, but that would've likely been Shadow's fate had he not taken off in popularity, and Blaze and Silver took off in popularity after their games, their appearences were a matter of "When" not "if"
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>>165992486
I prefer to think that Sol Emeralds bring out varied elemental states based on whatever a character is aligned with, not specifically setting everyone on fire.

Like, I'd sooner expect some Wind-element Sonic than a Burning Sonic.
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>>165992521
Shadow took off in popularity years before Penders bothered writing him in, and he only did so because Pellerito told him to, and even then Shadow did absolutely nothing of value while Locke and gold recolor Gamma infodumped for the 4684th time.
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>>165992634
True, but I never said they'd do anything of value, just that they'd show up. And Pellerito was on by this point, and the Shadow push was one of the first things he did. I don't think he'd be above doing the same for other characters
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>>165992586

Burning Sonic sounds fucking radical though.

BURNING!
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>>165992586
That wouldn't fit too well with the whole "solar" theme but would be fucking cool
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>>165992586
So what would the other characters be like, then?
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>>165992719
>>165992743
Cyclone Sonic?
Jetstream Sonic?
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>>165991991
>>165992019
>Completely changing the tone of fur
THAT NEVER HAPPENED. Tails and Knuckles fur DID NOT CHANGE. No, Tails didn't turn anymore gold than he already is, and Knuckles was never pink. IT WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A GLOW. AN AURA. JUST. LIKE. HEROES.
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>>165992687
The question was what Penders/Gabrie would do. Gabrie didn't give a shit.
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>>165992828
I asked that question, without realizing that well, by that point Pellerito was on board anyways. By for sheer hypothetical fuckery, Blaze and Silver would never show up. In fact, I'd wager that Shadow would show up maybe twice. Penders' plans for the comic seemed to indicate things getting more and more stale. At least Bollers' plans, while butt fucking retarded, at least were going somewhere. Granted, the idea of evil Antoine is fucking dumb and the way they did it was even more retarded but still
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>>165992782
I'd be inclined to say Knuckles is either Lightning (based on Thunder Arrow) or Earth (from shit he does in Sonic Heroes or Battle).

Rouge, by the same token, could be Darkness/Shadows going by Black Wave.

Didn't really give a lot of thought to anyone else, this is from an old autistic idea I had a long time ago. This same idea involved a much different take on Blaze's world, being one of magic and monsters and shit rather than more or less being the same as Sonic's world. Featuring Magister Eggman (Nega) as an evil wizard antagonist.
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>>165992812
Okay, Iizuka.
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>>165992812
One of them was a shield that enveloped spherically around the user, unlike the aura that is seen in Super Tails and Super/Hyper Knuckles, which seems to do a Star Wars-like wipe effect across their body fur.

You are not standing on very sound logic here, sir.
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>>165992812
Sparky I filtered your ass for a reason
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burning blaze makes me think of burning rangers
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>>165990806
The fancomic came to mind more than the off panel since I've read it more recently than the off panel. On second thought it has been so long I barely recall seeing this off panel.
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>>165993208
It always felt like a missed opportunity to me to not have Blaze's fuzzy cuffs be flames instead in her Burning state.
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>>165992405
I think Penders would have definetly expanded the princess angle of Blaze more, rather than focusing on her game storyline. Reminder, when Blaze first appeared in the comic the chaos emeralds had not been unified yet. No room for a Sol emerald hunt when theres billions of them.

I think he would have latched onto her 06 story more than her Rush story, if possible. Try to explain her connection to Silver 'between timelines' or whatever.

It would have been fucking awful.
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>>165993208
I want Burning Blaze to be able to shoot fire out of her fingertips. Like Katia Managan, or more loosely, Johnny Joestar.
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>>165993281
the first few off panels of the ian era arnt that great
not bad but not terribly memorable.
>god this art's bad
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>>165993165
In Sonic 3:K, Super Sonic was gold and had a white pulse. Super Tails and Knuckles stayed the same but had the white pulse.
Post-Sonic Adventure, Super Sonic is gold with a gold flaming aura. So naturally, Tails and Knuckles would just have gold auras around them instead of glowing white. What was seen in Heroes, the golden shield-like aura things, are the Modern translation of the super transformations in Sonic 3 and Knuckles.

HOW THE HECK HAVE NONE OF YOU REALIZED THIS YET?!?!?
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>>165993334
>I think Penders would have definetly expanded the princess angle of Blaze more, rather than focusing on her game storyline.
So basically what I outlined here? >>165992405

Oh god Penders handling an 06 pseudo-adaptation. I don't think a worse idea fucking exists
>>165993505
The first few years of Ian were really weird. The off panels were still the same editor wank that they were in the Dark Ages for a bit, they rotated in and out artists like crazy, and it really felt like a mess
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>>165993431
Blaze could probably that anyways, desu.

>>165993105
This now makes me curious what would happen if other characters like Amy, Rouge, Big etc. used the Chaos Emeralds.
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>>165993614
i prefer the idea of only Sonic and Shadow turning gold, with everyone else being more along the lines of >>165954441
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>>165993614
"No-ting"

t. Iizuka.
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>there was a Sonic Battle thread in /v/
>missed it due to FE Direct
damn it

i want to talk about something cool coming up for that old game
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>>165993594
I was agreeing with what you outlined.

Penders on 06 would have killed the comic.
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>>165994115
>I was agreeing with what you outlined.
Oh, sorry. I'm a bit dense
>Penders on 06
How could he make Elise WORSE?
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>>165994053
You can discuss it here.
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>>165994075

>>165994184
is it wrong that i think Elise is kind of pretty? wish she wasn't a trainwreck of a character, though.
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>>165992782
Stygian Shadow - dark
Cyclone Sonic - air
Tesla Tails - electric
Gnashing Knuckles - earth
Ambient Amy - light
Psychic Silver - psychic
Vocal Vector - sound
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>>165994317
>is it wrong that i think Elise is kind of pretty? wish she wasn't a trainwreck of a character, though.
She has a great design, but the artstyle for her is wrong
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>>165994184
>How could he make Elise WORSE?
By retconning M25YL and having her replace Sally. Yes, including human/hedgehog hybrid children.
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>>165991738
>Off Panel/Short Circuits artists (up to worlds collide) (all written by flynn)
>Shadow Saga
Steven Butler
>30YL
Chad Thomas (artist for Megaman)
>main series 205-208 (2nd third of the Iron Dominion Saga)
Lindsay Cibos
>Echoes of the Past, Journey to the East, and main series 209-212 (last 3rd of Iron dominion saga)
Jamal Peppers (who actually started doing backups back in 202)
>213-216 and Tails Adventure
Ben Bates (debut)
>217-220 and Treasure Team Tango
Steven Butler
>221-224 and Silver Saga
James Fry
>225-228 and Scourge: Lockdown
Jamal Peppers
>Megaman 1 Arc
Chad Thomas
>Megaman Powered Up arc
Ben Bates
>229-244(final issue of Genesis to 1st half of Endangered Species) and Babylon Rising to the SU issues in Worlds Collide
Jon Gray
>Megaman 2 arc
Spaz
>Spiritus Ex Machina and 17-20
Ryan Jampole
>21-23, Megaman Worlds Collide issues, and 28
James Kamiski
>245-248 (2nd half of endangered species to first sth issue of Worlds Collide)
Lamar Wells (debut: primarily serves as cover artist)
>249-252 (most of the sth issues in Worlds Collide as well as 252)
Vincent Lovallo
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>>165994053
>there was a Sonic Battle thread in /v/
It gets constantly reposted with the same OP, so you'll probably see it again.
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>>165993550
You're trying to connect two completely different things here. Going back to my previous point, Aura does not equal Super. Saying something like that is saying something like "All of the shields are super forms in of themselves." The shields are aura type things as well, why wouldn't they count as super forms?
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>>165994432
This. Besides, she isn't the only one who looks horrible in 06 style. *cough*Eggman*cough*[\spoiler] The fanarts of her in SegaSonic artstyle makes her look better. All she needs is a good characterization.
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>>165994075
>>165994206
>>165994317
>>165994429

Look carefully at S3K Super Tails and Super Knuckles. The only change they have is the white pulse. Their fur is NOT a different color. Tails is still yellow/orange/gold/whatever, and Knuckles is still red. Super Sonic had the same effect, but his base sprite was changed. Sonic was the only one that changed completey when he goes super.

In Sonic Heroes, it's the same thing. Sonic gets a completely different base model, while Tails and Knuckles stay the same. But all three of them get Golden auras around them.

The Genesis Era has a white pulse effect, The Modern/Dreamcast Era has a golden aura effect. Super Knuckles in the classics will almost appear to be turning pink because of the white pulse, Super Knuckles in the modern games will just have a gold aura around him.

Understand?!
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>>165994374
some of those go too far into the realm of silliness, I think. i don't know if i feel like the alliteration is super vital

also you forgot Marine Marine - Water

>>165994432
I like joeadok's more Unleashed-looking Elise a lot. especially his goofy 「Iblis」 stand version...
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>>165994184
If he wanted to use her in the comic he would have to address her Sonic love. Otherwise people would just assume its there and creepy.

'Bestiality is OK because the animal can talk' speech would kill the comic.
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>>165994817
>I like joeadok's more Unleashed-looking Elise a lot. especially his goofy 「Iblis」 stand version...
I think it'd be interesting that when she got overly emotional or at least lost her composure, she got some sort of aura, or at least started to act more agressively, indicating that Iblis was leaking. I hate the idea that Iblis is released the moment you cry. You could be SO much more creative with the idea
>>165994858
Penders would fucking play it straight then claim he was "progressive".
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What is the top 5 worst and best moments of this general?
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>>165994858
And yet it's one of those things that I don't think would have been viewed as some weird taboo in-universe. The problem was 06 being notoriously bad on top of the decision to use super realistic looking humans instead of cartoonier ones. For as shitty as it was, Shadow the Hedgehog the Game had some awesome pre-rendered cutscenes and Maria feels to me like a good ideal look for humans in the setting that doesn't leave them so wildly detached from how Eggman looks.

>>165994935
Dude, the idea of her having access to some of that power with fluctuating emotional state at risk of further weakening the seal could have been really neat. Sonic 06 had a lot of "coulda been cool" concepts. Really, almost every Sonic game does.
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Just ship Elise with Sonic Man and everything's good.
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Recently hacked my 3DS, playing through Sonic Boom Fire & Ice. It's pretty alright.

Any Sonic games on 3DS y'all could recommend? I already got 3D Sonic 1 and 2.
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>>165995194
>Dude, the idea of her having access to some of that power with fluctuating emotional state at risk of further weakening the seal could have been really neat. Sonic 06 had a lot of "coulda been cool" concepts.
Elise frustrates me because the idea behind her is great and FILLED with potential for really creative ideas. I didn't even consider giving her powers, but that works too. You don't even have to change Elise dramatically to make her character work. 06's story in general frustrates me because it's a ton of wasted fucking potential. Silver's story is wasted potential, as is Sonic's. The only one that isn't is Shadow's, and even then, Mephiles is a crappy villain who relies on everyone else acting like retards for his plans to work.
>>165995265
If the comic made that canon I'd buy Ian a fucking beer
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>>165995265
I ship Elise with Sonic as an admirer who sometimes lets Sonic spend a night with a roof over his head between wandering and travels but understands that he's not the type to ever be tied down by romantic interests. Both of them have a mutual respect for one another and have grown from their brief fling.

Too bad that shit got erased.
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Tbh, I don't get why people act like Elise/Sonic was ever a thing in 06. Sonic never showed any sign of liking Elise as more than a friend. It seemed more one-sided to me, like Amyls crush on Sonic.
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>>165995672
Amy's*
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>>165995194
>in universe
There was human/mobain racism in archie. I suppose it varied by region. Dragon kingdom didn't care much.
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>>165995672
The one single thing that caused everyone to freak out was Elise kissing Sonic in the final story. If it wasn't for that there would be nothing.
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>>165995672
Oh, even though I quite fancy the idea of Sonic and Elise having an extremely brief attempt at a relationship because I'm a filthy shipper who wouldn't mind him indulging Amy similarly, I don't delude myself into thinking the "revival kiss" to be anything but straight up magic, not some Power Of Love bullshit.

>>165995782
yeah but that's dumb.

>>165995838
basically that coupled with the game being shit elevated it to more or less meme status. i have to wonder sometimes if Sonic 06 were a MUCH better game if that development would be seen with the same disgust people have for it now.
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>>165995024
Best
>/sthg/ makes a birthday card for Ian
>/sthg/ gets a shoutout from official Sonic social media accounts
>any time official Sonic people drop by
>storytime when honey debuts
>the threads during the party where Mania and Project 2017 are announced

Honorable mention
>almost all milestone threads

Worst
>the threads a couple months ago that got shitposted so hard it got deleted and a moderator watched the thread actively deleting and banning
>Spark of Life part 4 storytime
>the time the thread died before bump limit
>the thread right before the first comic hiatus ended
>anons shitting on Evan after she showed up randomly the night before


Honorable Mention
>the shitposting that has occured especially over the past 6 months in general
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>>165995838
I have no clue what SEGA was thinking when they did that scene. I mean, they had to have known that people wouldn't react positively to that.

Honestly, if they remove that shit, made Elise's character more interesting aspects, she would've been a fine one-off.
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>>165995672
When does Sonic himself EVER actually show romantic interest with his 'love-interests' in the game canon? Amy is Sonic's designated love interest, yet whether Sonic returns the feelings is just "???".

SonElise was being shipped pretty hard in '06, yet the entire time Sonic was just being his normal self and acting like nothing more than a friend to Elise.

Or maybe, it's like

Sonic did have romantic interest in Elise, and he does have romantic feelings for Amy, but because of his free-spirited adventure-focused nature, those feelings aren't anything more than his own personal feelings and he has no intention of doing anything with those feelings.
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>>165995960
>>the thread right before the first comic hiatus ended
What happened there again?

>>165995960
>>storytime when honey debuts
>>the threads during the party where Mania and Project 2017 are announced
Those threads were fucking magical
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>>165994519
>Post Worlds Collide Off Panel/Short Circuits Artists (and Writers)
>Pirate Plunder Panic and Shadow Fall
Jennifer Hernandez (debut) (written by Aleah Baker)
>Ra Moon arc
Lamar Wells (written by Flynn)
>StH 253-256 (Countdown to Chaos)
Evan Stanley (written by Tyler Capps)
>megaman 33-36
Dan Schoning (guy who did the first act of worlds unite) (written by Flynn)
>StH 257-260 (Damage Control, The Chase, and 1st issue of Waves of Change)
Jennifer Hernandez (written by Jon Gray)
>Dawn of X arc
Rory Smith (written by Flynn)
>The Great Chaos Caper and 261-264 (mostly Waves of Change)
Adam Bryce Thomas (debut) (GCC and 263-264 written by Flynn, 261-262 written by Aleah Baker)
>Legends of the Blue Bomber (Megaman 3 Robot Masters Arc)
Carl Sciacchitano (written by Eric Esquivel)
>Total Eclipse and 265-268 (mostly Control/Ambush)
Diana Skelly (Debut) (written by Aleah Baker)
>Boom 1-4
Ryan Jampole (written by Aleah Baker)
>The Ultimate Betrayal (megaman 3 final bosses arc)
Steven Gordon (written by T Rex)
>Spark of Life
Agnes Garboska (written by Eric Esquivel)
>269-272 (most of Champions and the Sth world's unite lead-in issue)
Lamar Wells (written by Jon Gray)
>Boom 5-8 (Eggtoberfest, Everbody's Sonic Racing, and 1st boom issue of Worlds Unite)
Lamar Wells (written by Bill Freiberger)
>MM 49, SU 75 (World's Unite Lead-in issues), almost all of Worlds Unite, boom 11 and sth 276
Jon Gray (written by Bill Freiberger)
>post Worlds Unite Megaman
Jon Gray (written by himself)
>Silver Age
Jon Gray (written by Evan Stanley)
>Sth 277-283 and one of the two sets for Eggman's Dozen
Lamar Wells (written by Eric Esquivel)
>The other Eggman's Dozen set
ABT (written by Aleah Baker)
>Shattered
Lamar Wells (written by Aleah Baker)
>Panic in the Sky
Evan Stanley (written by Aleah Baker)
>Case of the Pirate Princess
Jennifer Hernandez (written by Aleah Baker)
>Genesis of a Hero
Ryan Jampole (written by Eric Esquivel)
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>>165995960
I still remember when Sparky first started posting that "I have psychokinesis" nonsense. Kills me everytime I think about it.
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>>165996081
>What happened there again?
After we died from lack of posting (the hiatus slowed this place to a crawl), the next thread was plagued with arguing/shitposting saying /sthg/ should end because of how slow we have become. It was insufferable with a storytime that was right around the corner.
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>>165996179
>Dan Schoning
Who was the worst artist of WU? Schoening or Huang?
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>>165996234
nonsense here*
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you guys talking about Elise makes me think that Madonna could've worked.

like April O'Neil type relationship
or that agent from dial M for monkey
or even Topaz from sonic X (I know about the comics)

It might've actually been a good idea to give kids a human woman to lust over
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>>165995960
I'd put the Sage creation thread as an honorable mention for worst, and the 1st birthday for best, because all the birthday pics plus the shoutout from Ian. Shit was magical
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>>165996258
Depends on wether you prefer being on model (like Huang) or being dynamic or at the very least not stiff (like Dan)
plus two of dan's issues he only did the layouts for while Yardley did the final pencils, so there was less dan than huang
I'd go with huang personally
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>>165996345
Sage's creation was quite a normal thread from what I remember being there.
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>>165996336
i love the madonna idea, and her being like ANY of those three examples could have been awesome. though i'm not super into how they handled her in archie.
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>>165995672
Sonic's supposedly shy of girls. That weird 'picturesque' scene where he holds Elise's hand and runs. Amy doesn't react when Elise kisses Sonic.

The only thing against the ship is the end where Sonic doesn't hesitate to blow the flame out.
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This is why I say Sonic is the Embodiment of Chaos in the games. Tails and Knuckles, and presumably others, only get the golden aura. Sonic? His entire body turns gold and is bursting with the pure, ultimate power of chaos.

>>165996234
I knew someone would bring me up... Actually, I feel the need to remind everyone that on that day, there was a Tarot Card anon reading everyone's fortunes. No one had a problem with him and seemed to act like he had legit mystical powers like Amy.
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>>165995960
>>Spark of Life part 4 storytime
What happened that time?

>the time the thread died before bump limit
I recall that being from usually image dumping, now the threads have been reaching the bump limit before the image limit.

>the threads a couple months ago that got shitposted so hard it got deleted and a moderator watched the thread actively deleting and banning
Damn has it really been a couple months since that?
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>>165996491
Sonic didn't blow the flame out. Elise did, after Sonic told her to "Just smile".
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>>165995960
>Spark of Life part 4 storytime
I still don't understand how we got into that situation. All we had to do was not spam images, but everyone felt rebellious that day.

I thought we were going to get shutdown from that event since a massive amount of posts and a new threat got deleted. (With the possibility of a few bans.)
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>>165996474
I honestly like current Madonna. Mainly because she's kinda hot.

>>165996491
I don't think it was ever said that Sonic's shy of girls. He just saw Elise as a friend.

Also, remember the thread where /pol/ invaded on election night? Shit times.
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>>165996515
>I knew someone would bring me up... Actually, I feel the need to remind everyone that on that day, there was a Tarot Card anon reading everyone's fortunes. No one had a problem with him and seemed to act like he had legit mystical powers like Amy.
You do know Tarot card readings are a thing right? He was just doing it for shits and giggles.
>>165996415
I remember it being filled with catastrophic shitposting and a mutual agreement that Sage is the last OC we make.
>>165996373
I prefer Dan solely because he drew fucking backgrounds and knew of the existence of CLOUDS
>>165996549
>What happened that time?
We were almost at image limit and the storytimer politely asked the thread not to post images so the issue could be dumped. One anon got so butthurt he dumped an entire folder of images and shat the thread up
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>>165996515
Tarta card reading, while I still think is bullshit, is at least more related than claiming static elictricity is electrokinesis.

And put your fucking Rio trip back on.
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>>165996549
>What happened that time?
Storytime was done with very little images left. Anons started saying to not post images, since we would run out. As you can guess bad things happened and people started shitposting and arguing and posting images during it.

Janitors deleted new threads when they were made and eventually mass deleted a large chunk of the thread that consisted of /sthg/'s hunger games to give us enough images to get through the storytime.

>Damn has it really been a couple months since that?
It might be only a month, I don't really remember. It happened right after 289's storytime, I think.
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>>165995960
I almost forgot the 500 post long argument about House of Cards. Jesus christ how could I forget that? I forget, was it that that lead to the first Ellidy edit?
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>>165996778
Yeah, it happened in the final few weeks of 2016.

It all started because some faggot reported the thread because someone was going to storytime an old Sonic comic issue.
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>>165996875
That thread was beyond bad before the storytime was attempted. If the thread got reported, it was probably for what was going on before it.
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>>165996692
>filled with catastrophic shitposting and a mutual agreement that she is the last OC we make
So...normal?
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>>165996932
It was bad, but the thread was reported for the storytime, because in the next thread, he reported it because "we should save the storytimes for new issues."
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>>165996735
I feel static electricity build up in my hands whenever I practice electrokinesis. And when I focus on trying to make an electro ball, I can feel the pressure and electricity between my hands. Honesty, it kind of hurts when I do it too long, it's painful when it's building up in my fingers.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean when you say
>claiming static elictricity is electrokinesis.
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>>165996938
Maybe my memory is fucking up, but it was an especially bad thread

Oh, another bad thread, the guy that REEE'd about how posting redesigns was "Shilling indie patreons"
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>>165997038
Are you 100% serious when you say this stuff?
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>>165997001
he admitted to reporting the previous one because*
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>>165996692
yep (when I said I'd go with Huang, I meant as the worse of the two, seriously, look at this shit, it's so fucking stiff)
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>>165997038
>>165996515
holy shit does this dweeb come here often he is a fuckin riot
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>>165997145
I'm not sure what was worse: the stiffness, the lack of backgrounds, or how every character was off, but not super off, but off just enough that you knew something was wrong
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>>165997104
He says this shit here, SSMB & SEGA Forums so yes, he's deadass serious about this stuff.
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>>165997104
Yes. I'm usually serious. If I'm ever not serious, I'm usually just telling bad jokes or something.

To keep it Sonic-related, in Tails' Adventure, Tails' spin dash has an electromagetic effect. Couple that with Sonic Heroes giving Flight an association with thunder/lightning/electricity, and I think it's safe to say that Tails has minor-electrokinesis. I've theorized for quite some time that so far he's only capable of 'generating' it, and needs technology to actually direct and manipulate it. Otherwise he can only really charge things up with it, such as Sonic & Knuckles, or his Energy Ball Arm Cannon from Battle, or the Electric Plug from Riders.
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>>165997203
He's a regular on the Sega forums and Sonic Stadium. I don't know how he found this place and why he chose to stay here.

Al I can say is he is autism incarnate.
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>>165997343
Or the machines are doing it themselves. Not everything needs a stupidly convoluted explanation. Half the things there can be explained by "Sega put it in because they thought it'd be cool"
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>>165997350
I chose to stay because of storytimes of the comics, which I don't regularly have access to. But my other motivation for sticking around is just that I like seeing what other people think of things, and their reactions to certain things and stuff like that.
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>>165997350
Oh, and I am not the 'Embodiment of Autism'. I'm not autistic at all in any way, shape, or form.
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>>165997589
>Like Sonic.
>Not being autistic in any way.
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pink sally? pink sally.
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>>165993431
So, something like Kyo from King of Fighters? Drawfags pls
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>>165997975
Can she use Chidori?
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>>165997975
byeah
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>>165997726
Liking something doesn't automatically make you autistic.

What is with 4chan Anons and "Autism"? It's always "Autism this" and "Autism that", "you are autistic", "This is Autistic", etc etc, why?!
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>>165995672
It's like Goku with Chi-chi, Sonic would've known nothing about human affairs like "marriage" and "reproduction" until it was too late if the 06 series kept going and didn't erase itself from existence. thank fucking lord
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>>165998202
dude the guy pretends to have lightning powers. they're autistic, which is okay, but there's no point in lying to yourself here.
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>>165998296
I don't "pretend to have lightning powers". I do indeed have some limited amount of electrokinesis, that I developed through practice and stuff. I believe that anyone can develop supernatural powers. I am not autistic just because I have spiritual beliefs and paranormal/mystical interests. Dude, I'm not saying I can shoot lightning bolts from my fingers or anything.
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>>165998546
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>>165998546
Yes, we know. You're training to be fucking Static Shock.
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>>165998763
Don't compare Sparky the Autistic Hedgehog to Static.
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>>165998546
Dude, what the fuck? Now I see why nearly everyone made fun of you in Sega Forums. The whole "embodiment of chaos" theory crap was one thing, but the fact that you actually believe you have superpower is just shocking.
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>>165998929
I'm not an Autistic Hedgehog. I'm a Kitsune. I don't have Autism.


No, I am not actually a Kitsune. My CHARACTER, Sparky, has a kitsune inside his soul, and I draw him as a two-tailed fox when I draw him as a Sonic character. But I IRL am no kitsune nor do I believe I am. Just wanted to set that straight before anyone gets the wrong idea.
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>>165999102
>OC fox character with multiple tails
basically a cardinal sin my dude
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>>165999102
>has a kitsune inside his soul
So he's like Naruto?
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>>165999003
My believing that I "have superpowers" is tied to my spiritual beliefs and my knowledge of quantam physics and such all saying that Everything is Energy, and reality is affected by consciousness.

>>165999189
Originally I had him with 4 tails because he's nearly twice as old as Tails (my character is 14), then I decided to just give him 1 tail because Tails' tails are what makes him unique, then eventually I just decided to give my character a kitsune spirit inside his soul as apart of his normal character outside of Sonic and so I retroactively changed his Sonic design to have 2 tails.
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>>165999243
All my friends have said that, but I didn't watch Naruto at the time I came up with that. I started watching Naruto, the first series at least, several months ago to try to see if I could get any ideas for how the Kitsune thing could work or whatever, but it was originally not inspired by Naruto at all. It was inspired by Tails.
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>>165999363
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>>165998057
the artist just added more sparks to her holo ring things
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>>165999997
Not this time, my friend
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>>165999997
why are you adding fuel to a fire?
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>>165999102
Sparky pls
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>>165999997
At least you tried anon.
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>>165946921
Not watching this because people said it was Projared, but doesn't he hate Sonic?

Also I'm not buying any classicuck games, so Mania was always a pirate for me.
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What's your favorite Sonic ship? They can be plausible to crack.
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>>166000147
What got deleted?

>>166000170
Sonic/Amy.
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>>166000037
>>166000074
>>166000147
What was deleted? Did an anon say something or post an image to start shit?
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>>166000170
Rouge x ____M.E.____
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>>166000169
it's cool to like Sonic Mania so jared said it's good
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>>166000169
is there a non somecallmejohnny video game related e-celebrity who DOESNT hate sonic?
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>>166000252
Some faggot failed to get
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>>166000313
Like "normal" e-celebs, or guys like Darkspinessonic?
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>>166000408
no not a sonic fan but someone who just dosent vocalize constant hatred like egoraptor
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>>166000170
im a sucker for yuri
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12144654
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>>166000592
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>>166000313
Clement.
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>>166000723
But anon, that's extra forbidden love!
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>>166000723
Rewatching Sonic X, I forgot how fuckin gay Topaz got for Rouge
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>>166000723
anon you art talking my language
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>>166000828
but she settled for a jap butler
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>>166000818
nothing forbidden about it, they're both consenting adults, anon.

topaz and her gay carmen sandiego the bat

>>166000828
i feel like i remember them trying really hard to force topaz and chris' fucking butler but that's dumb as shit. topaz is the only good human in sonic x, delete everything else.
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>>166000723
i liked them together, not even shipping.
a nice sistermance.

don't know what the female equivilent is
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>>166000930
I know. That always felt like a last second decision to shut down any accusations or whatever of her being gay

It reminds me of Batwoman for some reason
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>>166000828
rewatching sonic x I realized how fucking hot Topaz is
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>>166000170
Sonic/Fiona(in her black leather outfit) or Sonic/Rouge, also BoomSonic/Sticks.
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>>166000170
I'm kind of a sucker for bi ships for few characters at times
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i thought batwoman was lesbian since like 2012?
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>>166000170
>Sonally
>Sonallycole
>Buntoine
>Tails/Honey
>Tails/Hope
>Shadouge
>Rouge/Topaz
>Knuckles/Relic
>Lien-Da/Finitevus
>Lien-Da/Snively
>Shard/Nicole
>Shard/Silver
>Fiona/Nic
>Fiona/Sally hatelust
>Blazamy
>KnuxAmy
>Omega/Nuclear Stockpile
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>>166000313
Was this supposed to be the prototype of the House of Cards cover. If it was, Yardley! should've had gone with this cover instead.
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>>166000169
>classicuck
What?
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>>166001190
She was, but way back in the 60s or earlier she was created because there was a book called Seduction of the Innocent that came out that claimed Batman and Robin were gay lovers so in response DC created Batwoman and Batgirl to show that "BATMAN IS STRAIGHT WE SWEAR"
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>>166000170
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>>166001190
Different Batwomans.

>>166000474
Anybody obsessed with fame enough to become a popular e-celeb isn't going to go against common conception. Likewise, anybody willing to like something that isn't popular probably doesn't have the suck up factor required to get e-famous.
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>>166000313
This is really, so want more Sonic vs. Tails Also Sonic's expression is nearly the same as Shadow's.
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>>166002313
This is really cute*
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>>166000313
So far, I just see the Brainscratch crowd and most others LPer's associated with them like Clement and FTCR that genuinely enjoy Sonic games new and old, while also balancing criticism.
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>>165999363
Goddamnit Sparky, all the potential energy training to do to become Zeus and you spend your time shitposting about The Embodiment of Chaos.
Climb up a pylon and become Raiden or something man.
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>>166000592

>>166001028
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>>166000313
I know Jon Jafari likes Sonic, throughout the playthrough with Arin on 06 he still defended the Adventures and seems to recognise Sonic back in the day was great. I'm sure he liked Colours and Gens too.
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>>166003073
Imagine if Arin had left Game Grumps and not Jon.
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>>166003158
it would be worse because even when arin is wrong as shit, which is often, he's still a shitload more charismatic and easy to listen to than jon is

it ain't like his ass doesn't say stupid ass shit about video games on a regular basis too
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>>166003073
Jon likes Classic Sonic, Adventure 1/2, and Colors-Lost World
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>>166001259
>Fiona/Nic
What happened to Nic anyways, I heard a little rumor a while back saying that Nack killed her.
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>>166004060
pretty sure knack killed his old gang during Ian"s clean up session in Darkest storm
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>>166003536
Outside of Heroes & half of Unleashed, those are pretty much all of the good main Sonic games, not including the handheld ones.
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>>166004626
I was rereading issue 163 and Nack hints that he poisons his gang, fucking brutal.
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When is Sega gonna wise up and put Fang back in the games?
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>>165990329
H-hey!
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>>165995960
>Best
>no mention of first anniversary thread
Someone post the collage pls
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>>166007730
>putting somebody who isn't sonic in a game

I can already hear game journalists whining
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>>166009673
I can't hear them over your whining.
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>>166007730

Probably never.
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Are Ken Panders and Egoraptor the two most hated people on the planet by Sonic fans?
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>>165980475
if it helps anon after the pendering they all clocked off and went home, and now they're all looking for jobs elsewhere. Scourge has to wear bodypaint and acts as sonic's stunt double in some scenes. The Anti FF were all FF members siblings or cousins. etc.

They still all go to conventions to meet and greet the fans though, like old sci fi actors from cancelled shows
.
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>>165996247
I hope no one ever takes that (frequent) shitposting seriously. I love you fuckers and I would hate to see you go.
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>>166010209
Do fans hate or love Chris-Chan?
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Reading through the comics again.
Just finished the dark age.
Not as bad as some of you are making it out to be. More cringey than anything else, but for the most part pretty harmless. I'm about 15 issues into the golden age now and I can honestly say I now really understand why people are upset about the reboot. This is much better already.
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>>166010545
15 years of worldbuilding, regardless of how bad, was bound to net positive results eventually with the right creative lead.
Reboot era doesn't have that advantage since it had to start from scratch.
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>>165996345
>plus the shoutout from Ian
I still want Bump drawn by him.

>>165996415
It was a great thread until the shitposters arrived/got triggered.
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>>166010545
It's not all bad. It's just mostly bad.
I can appreciate the risks it attempted to take, but it really took them a LONG time to get their act together.
Now we have the opposite problem: they play it so safe that nothing is bad but not that interesting either.
All in all it's a deeply flawed comic with a pretty meh overall run that had a small period of higher tier grace between 260ish and 245ish but outside of that it's just been fun to read for the fans.
If it does get canceled, i'll miss it, but i wont be that surprised
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>>166010972
Essentially my thoughts too.
The worst part about losing the comic is that we have had ot so long that it's tough to let go of, but it's not like we are losing something that amazing really.
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>>166011667
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Hey!
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>>166011981
>tfw reboot era has slowly transformed me from a furry to a scalie
Not sure if iv'e sunken lower or not
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>>166012112
It's all equally degenerate, anon
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SONIC MANIA IS GETTING A RETAIL RELEASE NIGGAS

http://www.play-asia.com/sonic-mania/13/70av9n
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>>165952678
>Inhibitor Rings kinda felt like just. The dumbest goddamn deus ex machina. The idea that Shadow is always held back from being some invincible super-not-super character who can at a moment be OBLITERATING EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT YOUR FRIEND is just dumb. Bad. Don't do it.
Shadow is a shitty tryhard character who's only there to keep the edgy teens onboard.
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>>166012112

Ironic because we don't really have reptile waifu material post-reboot.
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>>166012763
>what is Razor, Ecmcco, Coral
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>>166012763
Are we reading the same comic?
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https://www.sonicstadium.org/2017/01/archie-sonic-comics-very-likely-cancelled/

>Update: Since the time of publishing, more people have been in contact with Archie. The same rep from earlier is now saying that the subscriptions are just temporarily offline.

Looks like it emwas just a false flag, everyone. Relax. Comic is fine.
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>>166011667
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>>165995960
You forgot the night where somone storytimed that godawful Kayla-Na comic and people started dumping Canned Furry and 2B1F in protest, but I still can't decide if that was terrible or amazing.
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>>166010272
Same. The people I feel bad for are any newcomers that peep in and think we're all like that, all the time.
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>>165996831
Yes
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>>166000170
Sonic x Bunnie
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>>165991780
Super forms were a mistake.
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>>166012941

None of them are reptiles. They are scalie under the broad term, but reptiles come to mind when you think of the word first.
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>>166013978
I feel bad for us residents too. We don't deserve that shit.
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>>166011667
And now I want to commission some racy Mobians from him, thanks loser.
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>>166013685
Saucy!
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>>165992457
No, they're not.
The emeralds were constantly changing shape and size in the Adventure titles, most of the time for no reason.
The emeralds were large in-game before you picked them up in WindyValley, Casinopolos, etc. Does that mean they were Super Emeralds until you picked them up?
In the final flashback, they were "large" until they started floating around the Master Emerald, which doesn't make any sense, if they were Super, they should have still been when floating around the emerald.
And let's not even mention how ducked up the Master Emerald's size and shape was in SA2.
This Super Emeralds in the Adventure games meme is bullshit and it really needs to die, same way the concept of the Super Emeralds did.
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>>166010209

Why should we hate eoraptor?
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>>165946921
We've been over this a million times.
The start is a virtual copy yes, then the zone transitions into entirely new material.
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>>165984119
That was commissioned by the Illustrious Q, who was trying to become a Sonic writer before the reboot and before he became a full time MLP newsletter dude.
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>>166015135
Not him but cause he's bad at video games and blames that on the games?
Though he probably just meant cause Arin shits on Sonic games.
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Any comic news yet?

End my misery.
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>>166012763
>>166014625

We Have Dulcy and Bunker
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>>166010242
>They still all go to conventions to meet and greet the fans though, like old sci fi actors from cancelled shows.
Mobius Galaxy Quest when.
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I wish I had never sold my GameCube Sonic games. I miss Mega Collection and Adventure
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>>165953336
>>165953523
Shadow is no alien. Shadow is...
>A genuine demon?
>A straight up freak?
The devil!
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>>166020935
got the ps2 version somewhere, also the mega drive collection for ps3. the ps3 one doesn't give you the option to combine games. at least int introduced me to the shining force series.
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>>166004060
>>166004626
>>166006672
Even if Nack hadn't poisoned his gang, Nic would still have been erased by the Pendering. She was one of Penders' donut steels, and she was related to a game character on top of that (and would thus be in violation of Sega's mandate against such things).
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>>166021491

Nic wouldn't violate the sibling mandate as Fang is not an active game character. Otherwise, Wally couldn't be Wendy's brother.
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>>166021575
>Nic wouldn't violate the sibling mandate as Fang is not an active game character. Otherwise, Wally couldn't be Wendy's brother.

Ah. Forgot about that. Then, yeah, it's all on Penders.
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>>165994817
> 「Iblis」 Stand
Fund it.
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>>166017101
neat
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>>166022212
im meh myself, dont even have that kind of phone
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>>166022373
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IM SONIC
SONIC THE KIDNAPPER
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>>166003507
>he's still a shitload more charismatic and easy to listen to than jon is
I wonder if anyone who says this watched a single new episode where Arin is being 10 times the annoying narcissistic asshole people make Jon out to be simply because "muh screemin"
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>>166022212
You mean doctor robotiks mean bean machine?
Get it because that's what it was a localisation of
yeah
I'm not a joke person
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>>166012643
This. Shadow's only good when he's played like a parody of himself, like in Boom
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https://twitter.com/CyBrid101/status/822099738522746880

Probably lying, but just in case.
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>>166024245
shadows annoying in Boom, just turns up to be an ass for no reason but after getting so much focus in the previous years he might as well stay in the background.
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>>166024890
I don't get it.
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>>166024645
archiscucks on suicide watch
my uncle that works for sega of Antarctica thinks this is bullshit
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>>166024245
but he was cool in SA2
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>>166024997
Nah, he was edgy as fuck
>MUH-RIA
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>>166024971
That sounds like a cool place for your uncle to work.
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>>165950096
>>165949801

Thank God she got pendered
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>>166024936
Now that I look at it, I don't really get it either.
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>>166024645

Um...isn't this what we'd figured in the first place?
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>>166024771
Honestly I prefer that version to the one with the clusterfuck of a backstory that sounds like a 6 year old wrote it. Boom Shadow is straightforward. He dislikes Sonic because he just does
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>>166025340
Yeah. It's like saying "I hard that if Sega doesn't make more Sonic games there won't be Sonic games"
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>>166025141
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>>166024890
I want to steal a chili dog from Sonic and throw it on the ground.
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>>166025364
His backstory wasn't even a clusterfuck in the the first place, his shitty game made it was.
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>>166000169
>but doesn't he hate Sonic?
I have never seen him spout any unreasonable ire towards the series. He even thinks the Sonic/Shadow sections and Chao garden in SA2 are good. I don't know where everyone is getting that this guy hates Sonic. It seems to be just some automatic assumption that Sonic fans make of e-celebs in general.
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>>166025664
Sonic would murder you
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>>165979293
anon won't include sonic and the black knights cringy buttrock soundtrack. 10/10
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>>166026729
Sonic doesn't murder!
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>>166027126
SA2 is way more buttrock than Black Knight.
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>>166000169
he just said SA2 wasn't as good as he remembered, the shooting and hunting stages being nowhere near as fun. which is common amongst the fanbase itself.
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>>166000169
Nah. He's just not an idiot so he knows which parts of SA2 are trash and which ones are good.
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>>166028095
for me the Choa garden makes up for that
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>>166011667
I cannot allow the comic to end before ABT gets to draw a whole issue with Madonna
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>>166028095
The shooting stages were plenty fun. Treasure Hunt stages are just 'ok'. People who act like that shit is somehow impossible or torturous are basically grandpas yelling at kids to get off their lawn, though.
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>>166027256
As far as you know.
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>>166028095
I agree completely that the shooting stages were bland and unnecessary, but the only people who say the emerald hunting stages were anything below "meh" are simply terrible at playing them.
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heads up im making the next thread
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>>166028921
Sonic is too cute to be a murderer.
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>>166029224
The hunting stages suffer many of the same problems as the shooting stages. They're slow, tedious, and overall a slog to get through, assuming you're not an autist who's memorized the layout and potential treasure locations of every stage.
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>>166029224
Nah.
>camera and movement issues
>enclosed areas
>shit treasure detector
They were actually good in SA1. SA2 made them shit.
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>>166028346
there not as fun but there still somewhat enjoyable. there 'suckiness' is overplayed.

>>166028901
for me the shooting stages where the less enjoyable. I tend to always use the clues in the hunting stages. I'm also convinced that's the way your supposed to play like. It's like an actual treasure hunt. It also still takes skill to know where the clue leads.

>>166029224
like I said to above. I would say is was quantity. 5 levels of shooting is fine but since it 9 it was too much.
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>>166029549
actually i agree with this to a point. death chamber is annoying and mad space is just awful.

i feel like SA2's treasure detector would be better suited to Sonic Adventure 1's significantly shittier treasure hunt stages, as you can basically knock all of them out in way under 2 minutes almost effortlessly. the SA1 'all objectives detected at once' radar would be perfectly fine in Sonic Adventure 2's larger, more spread out stages.
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>>166029473
Isn't memorizing the key sections of each stage what you're supposed to do if you want to get the best times?
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>>166029224
Knuckles stages were legitimately good

Fuck Rouge stages though
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Will we ever get a game as epic as SA2 again bois?
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>>166030058
Doesn't make them fun, especially the first time you play through the game. Going for rank and the additional missions are extra content for those who liked the game enough to want more. No one is going to want to do the extra shit if they don't find the first run through fun in the first place.
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>>166027256
He will bite you and give you the rabies.
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>>166030536
Sonic isn't diseased!
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>>166029804
Being larger doesn't make SA2's hunting stages better. In fact, it makes them worse.
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So what's that scoop with the comic? We done or not?
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>>166030741
We don't know.
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>>166030342
Perhaps that's because they weren't optional like in SA1, they were required to continue and usually took twice if not three times as long, which broke the pacing they attempted to set at the beginning of the game. It's like the Werehog but without the medal collection.
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>>166030741
No one knows yet.
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Eggman is the embodiment of an egg.
The clues add up.
In Sonic 2, it literally says EGG on his airship.
In Sonic Adventure, Sonic calls Eggman an Eggman.
In the comics, both British and American, he likes eggs.
His body is shaped like an egg.
From what I can conclude, Egmman is the physical manifestation of the embodiment, the spiritual successor, the actual live version of an egg.
If you don't believe me, listen very closely to what Shadow tells Sonic in SA2.
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>>166030741
It's the waiting game again. Grab a drink and get comfy.
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What would happen if The Quickster got the seven Chaos Emeralds?
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Guys, are the comics worth reading now?
Even if it's cancelled?

Did they end up at some cliffhanger or something?
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>>166031212
If they look interesting to you, then they're worth reading.

They're not cancelled yet.
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>>166031212
I'd say they're worth it
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>>166031212
>Guys, are the comics worth reading now?
They have been for many years.
>Even if it's cancelled?
There's still a lot to read.

>Did they end up at some cliffhanger or something?
If they are cancelled, they would end abruptly in the middle of a flashback arc.
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>>166031063
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>>166031208
he would have the chaos emeralds
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>>166031208
Because he's not Sonic, he would just get a golden aura around him and nothing else.
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>>166030701
it only makes them worse because of the worse radar, fix the radar and they're fine
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Huh, apparently a /co/ thread over a week ago that posts about comic release day changes said 291 was getting delayed. Only a week delay then, but wonder how no one caught that.
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>>166032183
>Only a week delay then
2 week delay. I can't calendar math.
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>>166031836

Is this the real autist or an imposter?
Because he still posts anonymously.
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>>166029290
Your time to shine, pal
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>>166031836
>>166032289
SAY SOMETHING! YOU FAKE HEDGEHOG!
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>>166032124
No, it still makes them worse. In the wide open stages, it just adds empty space between treasure locations, arbitrarily making travel time longer. In the labyrinthine stages, it just makes them a greater pain to navigate through. I have a feeling you're the weirdo I've previously discussed this with who thinks any extra area to explore is a good thing, even if there's nothing worthwhile about exploring it.
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>>166032289
I used the tripcode thing to emphase that it was ME facepalming to that.

I am not autistic.
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>>166032479
Attention whoring isn't something you should do.
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>>166031063
You could be on to something, anon...
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>>166032467
no i definitely wouldn't argue that the "True Useless" dead zones in the treasure hunt stages are a good thing. you probably have me confused with someone else.
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>>166031063
so
you're saying he's a chicken?
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>>166032479
No one cares what you think.
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>>166032479
No, you're the imposter.
Why would you facepalm at that? Just look at the facts man. He's literally the embodiment of an egg. Just listen to Shadow
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>>166032479
>I am not autistic.

You are the definition of autism.
But your delusions are vaguely amusing.
Carry on then.
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>>166032673
HE'S A CHICKEN, I TELL YOU! A GIANT CHICKEN!
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>>166032976
What did Shadow say, then?
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Make new thread
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"Man, I hope that people outside of this general don't think that shitposting is all we do"
>Replies to every single shitpost with an equally blatant shitpost all the time
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>>166033845
MIGRATE

sorry bois i was just ordering pizza
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>>165953336
>>165953523
>>166021227
I always thought he was a demon alien hedgehog clone. Like no joke. Part of him was those aliens from his game, but not just any aliens, aliens that vaguely fit humanity's preconceived notions of what demons are like. Like maybe they came into contact with humanity in ancient times like some ancient alien shit. That would explain the ancient flying temples.

But demonic alien DNA or whatever that was put into an artificially created hedgehog. Rate my lore.
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>>166033365
He said wow a giant talking egg.
OK, not outright, but it's hinted.
That counts right
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