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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General. Let's talk about Sonic games as well as the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more

/sthg/ #655 - Goodbye Freedom Fighters? Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
The Sonic Movie Characters May Have Redesigns “But Nothing Extreme”
http://www.tssznews.com/2016/12/26/the-sonic-movie-characters-may-have-redesigns-but-nothing-extreme/

Collectors Edition of Sonic Mania for Nintendo Switch
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/819965709153234944

TOMY 2017 Catalogue Reveals More Boom and Classic Merchandise
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/12/tomy-2017-catalogue-reveals-more-boom-and-classic-merchandise/

Archie Comics March 2017 Covers and Solicitations
http://bumbleking.com/sonic-comics-for-march-and-free-comic-book-day/

Archie Sonic Ending?
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/01/16/sonic-subcriptions-disappear-from-archie-web-store/

>Recent and Upcoming Releases<
The Sonic the Hedgehog level pack for LEGO Dimensions has released! You can purchase it online or at physical retailers near you. NOTE: You will need the LEGO Dimensions starter pack to play.

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2

Last Thread: >>165804203
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RIP
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PANIC
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>Next arc is based around the Freedom Fighters as individuals
>Comic cancelled

Really makes you think
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This is the worst day of my life
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>>165868167
Cause Yoto is kill.
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>>165868179
>Pic
Is that a challenge?
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Honestly, Nicole should be the only one kept when everyone none-game canon gets dumped. She's the only good FF.
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>/v/ is a fucking mess right now thanks to Switch news
>even things like Bomberman's return, Puyo Puyo Tetris, and Dragon Quest are being shitposted to hell and back
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>>165868428
He is?
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>>165868568
Him and at least half of our drawfags aren't around as much as they used to.
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>>165868538
She's the worst FF. Even moreso now in the modern era when people sort of know how AIs actually work.
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>>165868634
>She's the worst FF.
I want you to shut the fuck up.
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>>165868617
To be fair, that's because the last few threads have been rampant with shitposters from /trash/
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Good fucking riddance. Maybe the brand can be salvaged from waifu shitposting and relationship drama and focus on what's really important: the games.
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>>165868683
If only Swatty was more vigilant.
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>>165868553
Yet I got banned for "inciting flamewar"
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>>165868670
Seconded.
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>>165868713
(you) can go back to >>>/co/
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As a guy who was more into AoStH and not really into the comics that much. I feel somewhat saddened by this, but I have to say, I manage to deal with no AoStH. The memories won't go away, we can still draw and talk about the characters and they won't get ruined by stagnation over time.

After a few months we'll find new hobbies and series to follow. Things end, it's sad, but we can move forward to enjoy new things.

Not to mention, it means Ian can really spill the dirt on everything without SEGA or Archie holding his tongue. Not to mention that it's very possible we'll get a new comic, and maybe even get to see the SatAM characters return, other franchises have embraced their sillier past.
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Gotta say, I'm happy I didn't get very invested in the reboot like I did in the pre-reboot. Even if the comic survives, the past year has had constant problems and worry over the comic's state and well-being, I don't think I could go through all that anymore.
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>>165868553
When is /v/ not a mess?
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>>165868713
This won't stop people from daydreaming about Amy, or Rouge, or Cream.
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>>165868670
>>165868752
See? You can't even muster up a simple defense because she has no personality.
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>>165868713
This. And put the focus back where it belongs: on Sonic and Eggman, with no shitty friends to upstage the main character
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>>165868670
Not him, but post-reboot her and Sally were worst and second-worst when it came to have an actual established character. Nicole was basically "Sally's imaginary friend" and that's about it, and anything even slightly interesting about her was either ignored completely or barely touched on. Ian probably intended to develop both over time, but it resulted in both being pretty bland and irrelevant.
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Guess he's back. Remember to report him and his samefagging.
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>>165868903
Make that CLASSIC Sonic and CLASSIC Eggman. Like it's supposed to be.
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165868903
Remember folks. Report this guy.
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>>165868850
Better than daydreaming and bitching about however-the-fuck-I-don't-care many waifus that the comic has/had. I'm not even a classicfag; largely-hated characters like Shadow and Silver and whatnot can be good characters if written properly. Sonic isn't like Metal Gear where you can cut out most of the interactive stuff and still tell a story; there needs to be a game behind the plot to make it truly compelling.
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>People are actually sad about the shitty comics ending
>People actually care about Sonic's devient art looking friends

God, damn, no wonder the series was in hell for a good 10 years, appealing to fuckers like you was the wrong choice. I'm glad Sega's finally wising up. We only really need Sonic,Eggman,his robots and Tails. Knuckles is overrated and Amy is annoying, I'll accept Metal Sonic back so long as he sticks to the CD design and doesn't fucking talk.
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>>165868634
Nah, she's still pretty good.
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>>165868634
I really didn't like what that arc did with her character. I thought Nicole had a really interesting and unique thing going on, starting out as a purely soulless machine, and gradually developing a personality through interactions with others. It said a lot about how formative good friendships can be, and also about, for lack of a better term, "discrimination", against machines like Nicole. "It can't think it's just a computer", "it can't feel it's just a computer", "it can't be your friend it's just a computer", "it can't be a hero it's just a computer", etc. Suddenly saying that she is actually based on an organic being's brain just fucking ruins all that.

You're still objectively wrong about her being bad though.
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Fun fact: The only outsider should be Sticks.

I dare anyone to attempt to prove me wrong.
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>>165869195
Sonic Battle basically did Nicole's primary character arc better than the comic ever did, in only a single game.
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>>165869237
Fun fact: Princess Sally should still be a thing.
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>>165868853
>Not liking cute AI girl slowly gaining sentience and learning about friendship
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>>165869237
Fun fact: This series should only feature Eggman.

I dare anyone to attempt to prove me wrong.
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>>165869286
No fair bringing Battle in, it's one of the best pieces of storytelling in Sonic, if not the best.
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>>165869385
Fun fact: this series should feature absolutely no one. It should be only about beatifull landscapes.
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>>165869317
Sally is fucking shit.
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>>165869354
>slowly

That's the issue. Her story arc moves along so fast that we don't even see her before she's just another character. We don't know why she wants to gain sentience, we don't see her being pure AI, she's just a dumb cat sleeping in a digital box.

Someone brought up Emerl, that's a great comparison. We see the events that turn him from a stone-cold machine into bro of the century. Same with the Metal Sonic/Shard story.
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>>165869638
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Skelly with another post.
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>>165869607
>Sonic walking/running simulator
I'd be fine with that, if only for one game. The levels would have to be absolutely fantastic to do it though.
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Who do I need to Allah Akbar? Sega or Archie?
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>>165869638
The only good Sally is Post-Reboot Sally. All the others suck ass.
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>>165869385
>game with only Eggman
>Eggman sitting in a dark room, lonely, quietly singing E.G.G.M.A.N. to himself
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>>165869073
Fuck you, SONIC only.
Any other characters are not allowed.
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>>165869385
>>165869828
I'd play the shit out of an Eggman simulator.
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>>165869127
I know this is bait but people who even think like you ironically belong in graves
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>>165869851
Sonic is bloat, just use who he was modeled after. Although I heard he's busy starring in Odyssey
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>>165869773
Archie
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>>165869714
>>165869721
Man, this situation is completely fucked.
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If they're avoiding talking about it, then it's definetly kill.

A sad day.

Fuck Riverdale.
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>>165870020
YOUR NEW FAVORITE SHOW
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>>165869970
This isn't good enough for Sonic the series, they should just use [/spoiler]Alex Kidd[/spoiler]
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>>165870020
FUCK EVERYONE

I'm so mad that I'm going to go have sex with my gf now
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-LmJ12d0I
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>>165870020
How do we get Riverdale cancelled?
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Dunno if it was said in the past, but Universe 95 got pushed back to the end of February. Solicits had it set for the 8th, but now it's the 22nd
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>>165870410

That was not said in the past, is there a source for this?
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>>165870137
Hopefully you won't feel so mad anymore
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>>165870394

Absolutely nothing.
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>>165870394
It'll probably do that itself.
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>>165870020
Can someone tell me what is 'Riverdale' and it's replacing the sonic comics?
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>>165870137
>Sonic comics are fucking dead
>Have to branch out to find something else to read
>Decide to finally get caught up on Tails gets Trolled
>Hasn't updated in a year
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IT'S NOT ARCHIE. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RIVERDALE. IT WAS SEGA.

Sincerely, someone who fucking nows.
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Even if the comic is kill I don't think this is the end of Sonic comics. I can totally see them returning under another publisher, but we will probably lose the FF.
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>>165870464
I saw it in a non-Sonic /co/ thread early this morning.

Here's a site with it.

https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/DEC161283

Same date as 292's (which hasn't changed).
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>>165870516

Riverdale is Archie's answer to all those live action comic book shows that are popping up.

Except, instead of super heroes and whatnot, it's fucking Archie.
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>>165870516
New CW Darker & Edgier Archie show.

One of the early character bios for Moose said he has a soft spot for milfs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AMiwKhm3uI
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>>165870542
Was it because of the lawsuits, or because Boom wasn't a smash hit?
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>>165870752
That's the worst part. They haven't given a reason. They've remained completely silent.
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>>165870542
I can't fault Sega for making good on their promise. All the problems this comic has faced stem from either Archie' s greed or incompetence. If it does turn out Sega pulled the license I hope they let someone pick up. Now would be the time for anyone interested anyway.
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>>165870542
>IT WAS SEGA
As a result of Archie's incompetence.
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>>165870542
Sega's never gonna own up to it though. So I'm putting all my hate into Riverdale.
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I see beautiful days

And I feel beautiful ways

Of loving you

Everything's true blue
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>>165870542
And on what grounds do you know?
I mean it was probably Sega but still.
What do you know that we don;t?
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>>165870542
Tell Sega to let IDW continue the book.
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>>165870542
you can claim you know all you want but the majority of the staff is in the dark

so unless you rank above the artists....

>inb4 they're just saying they dont know
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>>165869286
That's because he gained sentience by eating emerald shards and punching people.
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SEGA pulling the license is the only theory that makes sense to me.
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>>165870825
>If it does turn out Sega pulled the license I hope they let someone pick up
So do I, but keep in mind that things could always be worse.

>>>/co/89205199
>>>/co/89207116
>>>/co/89207412
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>>165870847
>>165870825
It's a fine enough theory that SEGA made the decisions based on Archie's past mistakes, but it doesn't change the fact that the decision was not made internally at Archie. Archie has already paid out of pocket for more issues that will now never see print which is a 100% net loss for them.

If people used their fucking brains for a second they could put it together that it wasn't Archie's decision to cancel the books.
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>>165870542
this makes the most sense.
>"if you get us into any more legal trouble we will pull the license"
>proceed to get into legal trouble

also universe and mainline disappeared at the same time.
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>>165871118
>assuming the artists don't know
>not assuming they're just not talking about it because of professional obligations
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>>165868428
>>165868617
I'm here. I just lurk. I've just been drawing other non-sonic stuff lately.
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>>165871327
They shouldn't say anything in that case. I don't really take Skelly for a liar.
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>>165871327
Skelly was already shown to not know.
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>>165871204
>it wasn't Archie's decision to cancel the books.
But they put themselves into a position that would lead to it happening.
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>>165871319
What other legal trouble? The fucking reprints? They should of stopped reprinting old shit as soon as the reboot happened.

Archie is so dense.
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>>165871462
Probably coupling the Kickstarter thing with Fulop
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>>165869714
>>165869721
I wonder if legalanon can dig up something from his side.
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So which of the Egg Bosses deserve to have their story arcs wrapped up before the end?
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>>165871445
>>165871456

Skelly is not exactly at the top of the food chain
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>>165871542
What was the kickstarter thing about?
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>>165870516
Riverdale is a vaguely Archie-themed TV show coming to CW. It's a big deal for Archie since this is their biggest name project in years, and the company's titular comics are mostly culturally irrelevant now. Sonic makes them most of their money, but they've said they'd rather cancel all their licensed books than let an Archie book go (This is why Megaman and Boom were cancelled.)

Some people think Archie may be doubling down on Riverdale and cancelling Sonic, so we want it to fail and tank the company.
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>>165871603
All of them.
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>>165869127
This. Cut out Amy though, she's annoying
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>>165871683
Put your trip back on, Boco.
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>>165871319
Mainline, Universe, AND Mega Drive, their most succesful venture in a decade. Now, WHY would Archie CHOOSE to not release the finale to such a successful mini-series. A surefire money maker.

THINK, people.
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>>165871000
>Dat Bunnie
>Dat Antoine
Nice.
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>>165871683
Fuck you.
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>>165868784
>Being both the AoStH and Comics fan
>We'll never see Breezie's master plan and the 6S Squad taking action
It hurts so fucking much.
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>>165871640
Archie wanted to get "A-listers" to write their... Archie characters, probably took the thing for granted.

Controversy arose because it's a company using crowdfunding and they had to pull the plug but the comics were seemingly already all paid for so it's way safe to assume they came away from it with a big loss, and more shady, possible legal work tossed in their way.

Sure enough had every last site that cared go "is this even legal, and barring that, ethical" but sure enough counts as trouble.
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>>165871683
Tails too. Sonic doesn't need some fucking stupid-ass sidekick.
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>>165871827
Her entire purpose is annoying fangirl. Sonic is about fun simple adventure she doesn't belong
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>>165871413
That's hot.
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>>165871000
It hurts
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>>165871773
The sales for the second issue of Mega Drive were way down to about Universe levels.
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>>165871642
>Sonic makes them most of their money
really? let's hope they go bankrupt from this
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>>165871603
All of them, I love them all
>>165871413
Different anon here, just wanted to say I love your art style
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>>165871642
Why such a lust for Archie? Sure it's the name of the company but how much does that actually matter when it doesn't fucking work.
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>>165871921
Irrelevant. Still a money maker.
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If IDW picked it up they could do what they did for Transformers- they hired Simon Furman and let him continue the Marvel comics stories, and OC guys like Jhiaxus are still around.

Plus we could get Transformers and Sonic crossover would would be ace.
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>>165871846
Wow... thats a new layer of stupid for them.
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>>165871327
I'm pretty sure the artist's have an idea but aren't completely confident. They all seem to be on ice about it. They're obviously aware of things shifting (subs being pulled, production ceasing on the FCBD issue) but their "I'm unable to speak about it"-esque statements would be worded differently if they actually knew the answer.

Besides. These businesses are structured to leave all lower-level employees in the dark until the very last moments. Deals like this are convoluted and take time, and they gain nothing by alerting the staff until they are 100% sure.

Commission your favorite sonic artists and give them words of encouragement, because they only thing they know is that they aren't getting a paycheck until this is sorted out.
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>>165872119
Transformers without Sally would be trash
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It seems like just yesterday when everything was going fine
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>>165872084
Because it's the company's legacy. I don't blame them for being protective of him, but they need to realize that for the better part of 30 years people have thought of them as the Sonic company.
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>>165872185
Sally is owned by Sega, therefore an IDW Sonic comic could use her.

We could get an official Sally x Optimus teamup.
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>>165872185
If it's like Transformers then any character created for the brand would belong to them. So IDW doesn't have Circut Breaker or Death's Head but they've got Jhiaxus and presumably Scrounge.
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>>165871603
Maw and the Sisters
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>>165872159
You assume too much
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Archie's OC graveyard is getting pretty crowded

Who knows. Maybe Thunderbolt will be the next Armageddon
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>>165872638
I assume nothing and speak from knowledge.
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>>165872317
IDW wouldn't use Sally, she didn't even appear in Sonic Generations, the only good 3D Sonic game.
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>>165872806
Sonic Colors was a 3D game.
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Oh, I almost forgot to post this too.

>>165872837
For a few sections, yes.
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Come on guys it doesn't help anything to be all doom and gloom. Let's play a game!

So Archie Sonic comics are canceled, and you, yes, YOU!, get to decide what publisher gets the license to continue the series. But each publisher has different pros and cons, so choose carefully!

>IDW
>MLP crossovers guaranteed
>How many of these crossovers there are and their quality are uncertain
>If crossovers get to a certain point /sthg/ gets moved to /mlp/

>Marvel
>Several male characters are suddenly and inexplicably replaced by copycat female characters
>Sonic was actually working for Eggman all along
>Bendis
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>>165872791
I can tell you with 100% certainty you are wrong about this situation so no. You don't.
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>>165873057
IDW. The shitstorm would be glorious. Plus, I like them both, so whatever.
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>>165873057
>it doesn't help anything
It helps shitposters.
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>>165873057
>Bendis
I can't hit IDW FAST ENOUGH
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Everyone should spam Toby's two drawings on Ken's Twitter exclaiming their excitement at the possibility of him working with Toby on such a product.
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>>165873067
Then you must have some connections that I don't.

I just hope that wherever you're getting your information from gets to me.
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>>165873041
>SEGA wants to kill this cutie-patootie

I knew not buying a dreamcast would come back to haunt me
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>>165872806
Sonic Generations is the worst modern Sonic game.
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Why can't DC get Sonic?
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>>165873057
>Bendis

>So, do you know that guy, Eggman?
>Eggman?
>The scientist?
>Yes, Eggman, the scientist.
>What's his deal?
>His deal--
>(pffft)
>His deal is--
>(pffffttttt)
>Will you let me talk?
>Let the man talk.
>OK, you talk the talk.
>Thank you.
>Passive-aggressive muc--
>Eggman's a--
>A lunatic.
>Yes, sounds about right.
>He's this--
>This obese evil mastermind that prances around in a giant floating egg-saucer.
>Wow.
>Really?
>Really.
>And he-- he roboticizes anything that is not made of metal in his way.
>That's kind of messed up.
>It is.
>But when you rock that look - and listen, I have nothing against the bald style--
>He's inclusive like that.
>He is.
>--even if I have nothing against the bald style, who let him out of the 90s?
>That's a good question.
>Really good question.

3 characters of your choice, doesn't even matter who says what.
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>>165873372
No, Lost World is.
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Feels bad to be the only one who doesn't like GENESIS, Megadrive and all this "back to the roots" bullshit. IMO the expansive setting and cast is what made the Sonic comic interesting, they took a concept and ran with it, developing it for years.

Explain to me the appeal of reading a comic about Sonic jumping on things. And making snappy remarks. Oh and Green Hill zone. Because apparently that was the greatest level of all time.
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>>165873414
LW was great :^)

The Deadly Six was kind of a lost potential, though.
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>>165871867
That too. Sonic and Eggman+robots is ideal
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>>165873738
>The Deadly Six was kind of a lost potential, though.
They'll probably be expanded upon in future games.
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>>165873057
>>165873395

IDW
>comics are competent and continue pretty much like now, except for the occasional weird crossover
>Ian will almost definitely be hired
>Sega restrictions prevent a James Roberts situation where every book becomes about Gay Dancing Hedgehogs

Marvel
>Book is either terrible or mediocre
>first issue is hyped to hell and back, with tons of variants
>sales are bad and is cancelled after 6 issues, with Marvel calling it a "stealth Mini"
>relaunched with a different name almost immediately
>would probably get a cartooney webcomic artist to draw it, and everyone would talk in modern twitterspeak

DC
>would probably end up like their Hannah Barbera books- a huge reimagining of the franchise that is either forgettable and stupid or an introspective masterpiece.
>house style artists would make everybody look weird and overly detailed as fuck
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>>165871413
That's cute. I miss seeing your fun and energetic drawings.

They made me feel hot and bothered
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>>165873702
I like mega drive but not GENESIS or Genesis of a Hero
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>>165873852
Shut up. Eggman should be axed too.
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>>165873326
If you needed to know you would have the "connections" needed to simply ask.
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>>165874012
>Sonic
>Bad sales

I appreciate the effort but Sonic has basically been carrying Archie for the past 19 years. Anyone and I do mean anyone would make a fucking mint with that license.
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>>165873738
I actually liked Zazz and Zik, but the other four were just:

>hurr I'm fat
>hurr I'm a girl
>hurr I'm emo
>hurr I'm evil
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>>165873913
Yeah, Sega does that all the time.
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>>165873913
You sure? If SEGA didn't bring back the non-Eggman villains like Erazor, what made the Zetis any special?
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>>165874178
>Zazz

Was that the one who couldn't wait to pound Sonic's blue butt?

LW was so trash, but the music was so good. And Run was even worse but had even better music. I'm so conflicted
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>>165874012
>their hannah barbera books
I mean, it's still a look on modern life in a caveman setting but like, wow.
Also why is Vietnam a thing that has to happen in every American adaptation.
I'd be up for a realistic Eggman like this mind you.
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>>165873852
>+robots
Superfluous nonsense like that is why the comic is getting canceled.
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>>165873913
I've said this before But I want the deadly six to be a tertiary threat to sonic.

Sonic wants freedom
Eggman wants to rule the world
Deadly 6 just want to watch the world burn.

So that in a way the oppose both Sonic and Eggman and add in another threat that can do things like steal chaos emerald and destroy eggman's robots.

Beyond that I think I want them to be written a bit less obvious. I get that they're all effectively stereotypes but I'd like just a bit more personality than "I'm fat, I'm depressed, I'm old, I'm vapid"
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>>165874012
They'd all still have to work under Sega's mandates.
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https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/DEC161283
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>>165874164
Anon, Marvel can barely keep their movie characters afloat.

>>165874304
I would love a plot-heavy mature Sonic mini to death.
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>>165874178
I liked Zazz, too, he was basically the only character I had most memories with in that game. However, I thought Zavok was cool for a threatening one-shot villain.
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>>165873057
IDW
>comic gets to stay the way it is
>crossovers will cause a magnificent autism singularity

marvel
>comic suffers a quick but painful death at the hands of blue haired dykes, turbocucks and people that would have been lobotomized a few decades ago

it's not a difficult decision
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>>165873702
>>165874063
Mega Drive was good because it was a brand new story, just with classic characters. The other two were retellings of shit we already experienced in the actual games. Why bother reading them when I can just play the games again right now? Meanwhile, Mega Drive has been good enough that people legitimately want a new classic-style game based on it.
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>>165874012
>would probably get a cartooney webcomic artist to draw it, and everyone would talk in modern twitterspeak

Say hello to Ian's replacement!
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>>165874023
Good to hear. It'd be a lie if I said that wasn't my intention at times.

Here's a NSFW thing I did a few days ago. http://imgur.com/a/IKrBa
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>>165874445
Zavok wasn't really bad, and he looked kinda cool, but he was too generic of a villain for me, compared to Eggman.
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>>165874517
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>165874413
You know, if the comic's cancelled, they wouldn't have pushed it back.

Their may be hope, after all.
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>>165873057
We would see a return of Dark Ages Sally if Marvel got a hold of her
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>>165871413
>>165874023
That's pretty good, and I'm pretty new. Do you guys have a booru or some other form of collecting this stuff?
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>>165874413
>It's Sonic's super team, the "Freedom Fighters." They've been Sonic's closest friends in the comics for years!
>Now it's their time to shine!
Fucking RIP
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>>165874640
Not even that, Marvel would make her the main character and everyone's perfect strong independent girl who don't need no hedgehog. She'd be Tiara all over again.
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>>165874492
I wouldn't mind the crossovers as long as they didn't impact the main comic so much.
Like ANOTHER TIME, ANOTHER PLACE kind of thing. Or "I guess none of us will remember this stuff"

>Marvel
Oh god no. Please. I'd rather watch this comic die on a good note.

>DC
Just as bad

>Lazerbot
Pros:
>The greatest storytelling the world has ever seen
>Reflective commentaries on it's own work
>Art that gradually improves
>Real character interaction

Cons:
Would update never

The dream situation is that Archie isn't actually dying.
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>>165874704
Oh FUCK, they read our threads back in summer where we all went on about the freedom fighters needing more development

We fucking killed it
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>>165874686
Check the link pastebin in OP. Should be a booru link in there, not sure how updated it is.

>>165874517
What the actual fuck am I looking at here?
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>>165874640
>Dark Ages
not with that outfit you won't
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>>165874517
YAMEROOOOOOOOO
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>>165874517
>>165874586
Could be worse.
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>>165874826
It's been updated recently, but the latest stuff hasn't been tagged yet.
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>>165874501
Plus: Mega Drive doesn't take space away from the main plot
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>>165874517
Just end it all.
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You guys are getting worked up over nothing, it's just a mistake. Archie makes those sometimes, like Riverdale. Sonic went through the dark fucking ages, they're not dropping it now right when the franchise is about to be resurrected.
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>>165874581
Yeah, compared to Eggman, he was generic. Zazz was even more popular than him, too. I blame his unintentionally innuendo lines
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>post yfw shouen jump makes a sonic manga
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>>165874942
Even if it was a four-part arc in the main comic I'd be accepting of it since, again, it'd at least be brand new. Genesis and Genesis of a Hero were just boring rehashes.
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>>165874559
Not sure if hot or deadly, Yoto...
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>>165875371
Why not both?
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>>165874517
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>>165868634
>hello fellow freedom fighters
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>>165875178
>Sonic went through the dark fucking ages, they're not dropping it now
This thing is they probably don't have a choice.
If Sega is sick of their shit and ended it, then it's ended.
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Visually do you think Sonic's in game model will be a decent jump or will it be another slight iteration on the pre-existing model?
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>>165875371
Hot and Deadly is my fetish. I'm pretty open about that What's sex appeal without the threat of death?(or at least a lotta pain)
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>>165874785
>DC
>Just as bad

lol wut. Why do Marvelfags always lump in DC with their awful company?
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So, what's the next step here. Waiting for Archie to say something officially? Should people continue to call or email seeing if what has been said has changed? Cry?
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Someone actually took the time to draw lewd between Sonic and Mark

This is buggin' me
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>>165875431
>Hello Sally, let us engage in activities stipulated by the online manual from exhentai
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>>165875620
Death threats.
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>>165875462
What do you mean decent jump? I don't imagine them doing any kind of big change to it.
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>>165874826
Marvel had a series on Hellcat, and in one issue they got some online artist to do the art.

This one issue is seen floating around a lot like it defines the whole comic, but it's just the one issue. As someone who has read the first 10 issues or so I can say that it is not usually this bad, but never much better. As far as the art goes. Dialogue here is pretty consistent with the majority of the series.
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>>165875265
All the mangas are terrible except for the Sonic 1 manga
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>>165874785
DC ain't as bad as marvel. Only pro that could come from marvel is maybe gurihiru on art.
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>>165875620
>Waiting for Archie to say something officially?
That's all we can do.

Well, that and pray Sega actually takes the license elsewhere instead of just shutting it all down.
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>>165875620
Archie bonfire at 18:00PM CEST

Remember to rinse the Jugheads before throwing them on the fire as to minimize the risk of noxious fumes
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>>165875714
Not like pic related but like a boost in polycount and a higher res overall texture.
Seeing the Mario cast with their fancy new models and textures makes me want to see Sonic.
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What a rollercoaster of a day.
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I guess you could all say that the comic KICKED THE CAN
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>>165875864
whao whoa whoa, we need a confirmation before we start burning jugheads.
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>>165875871
>Hairs

Only good things can come from that
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>>165875871
Maybe, but I just can't see a huge polycount doing much good or higher textures being of any use in the case of Sonic.

I'm going with slight alterations. I'm hoping they do a good job on the mouth in particular. There's also something that bothers me about the model in the Project 2017 trailer, but I'm not sure what it is.
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Unleashed had the best Sonic model.
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>>165876212
No, it just had the best lighting system and environmental awareness to make it look the best. Generations' was slightly more sleek and accurate.
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>>165876108
Gonna get a lot of shit for this but as the one person here who played Boom and the one person who liked it for how weird it was, I really liked how Sonic's model was in the game, just because it was really animated at times.
Sonic himself is not really good for visual upgrades model wise like Mario where they can keep making his clothing and mustache look better Sonic kinda just looks the same.
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>Penders
>That other lawsuit
>Riverdale
>Pending cancellation

What's with Sonic and being a magnet for drama?
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>>165874517
>>165874884
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>>165876071
Cute!
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>>165876417
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>>165872263
I still love that grumpy little Blaze
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>>165876417
>Sonic himself is not really good for visual upgrades model wise like Mario where they can keep making his clothing and mustache look better Sonic kinda just looks the same
This is the problem with cartoony characters. Weird proportions and all may look fine in 2D or low poly, but just look wrong one way or another when made "realistic". Even making everything else look "realistic" will make the characters look out of place.
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>>165876597
It felt like I was playing a weird experimental PS2 game, I mean if a good dev like Retro or something worked on it we would have gotten something great.
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>>165875949
I HEARD YAS
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>>165847208
God fucking damnit!
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https://twitter.com/jnwiedle/status/821466098235219968
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>>165875265
That... would actually be kinda interesting. Shit, likely... very likely, but interesting
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Which publisher should pic up Sonic if Archie ends it?
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>>165877030
IDW is really the only one I trust fully.
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What if Sonic moves to Marvel and its a sequel to the Archie series instead of a reboot?
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>>165876969
The big question is, what creative team?
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If it's any consolation, the previously listed Sonic Universe Saga GN is still available on amazon to preorder
https://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Universe-Sagas-Pirate-Plunder/dp/1682559912/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1484696461&sr=8-3&keywords=Sonic+Universe+saga

and in my recent research so is newly-listed-to-me SU Saga #2
https://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Universe-Sagas-Shadow-Fall/dp/1682559467/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484696461&sr=8-1&keywords=Sonic+Universe+saga
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>>165875620
Playing the waiting game mostly.

Wait to see if Archie addresses it in some form. If they are brought back, with talk of the comic ending spreading like wildfire the last 4 days, they will need to say something if everything is fine.

See if any of the staff address it at some point. Not likely, but still give it a shot.

Subscribers should keep an eye out for emails with more info. Mega Man subscribers got them for their ""haitus""

Look for Archie's April solicitations and see if Sonic is apart of them. Them being there could be a good sign, but them not being there would not be one.
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>>165876565
Sonic can look so vicious yet so cute when exposing his sharp teeth like that.
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>>165876565
I've wondered about this because it seems to affect anything Sonic.

I think its something about how Sonic was created to be the COOLEST GUY AROUND. better than Nintendo and all that. Which of course hasn't been the case for a long time now.

So I think there's a lot of people still working on Sonic that have huge egos and nothing to show for it. It's why shit hits the fan everytime.
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>>165875871
It just looks weird that his belly is furred, but his muzzle and arms are not. Also, have you seen how Crash looks in the remake?
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>>165877818
Nah. It was a licensed comic that ended up sticking around longer than anyone expected. As a result it was handled poorly for a majority of its lifetime since it was originally just supposed to be a quick cash grab. On the game side people just love to see people fail so they take any chance they can get to masturbate over a game being made poorly or not doing well. Combined with the pessimistic culture of gamers today, and you got a recipe for drama.
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A cute Amy I doodled during break at work today.
I'm honestly not in the mindset or mood to draw or finish this tonight, but I thought I'd post it anyway. Maybe I'll get back to it
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>>165877481
> speedster going after your ass

you are always fucked no matter what.
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>>165878525
>>165877834
Nice
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>>165878134
The thing is Crash is another case of a character that can be upgraded easier than Sonic because of his fur shaders, that and the fact that he's been gone for so long that it makes the upgrade a bigger leap.
All Sonic can do is just drop a few more polygons on his model.
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>>165875871
See this sorta bugs me because it makes it look like sonic is all hair. Even though those are canonically quills so they should seem a little sharper instead of soft and hair like.


That said this is a problem with a lot of the modern games how they make his quills flow like hair at times.
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>>165874115
Have fun acting important in the internet, unless your information comes from Sega themselves. I know as much as Archie's creative team knows.
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>>165872806
>IDW wouldn't use Sally, she didn't even appear in Sonic Generations, the only good 3D Sonic game.

IIRC, that's because of some weird legal crap between Sega of America and Sega of Japan. Apparently, SoA owns the comic and cartoon characters (the Pendering notwithstanding), but since they don't do a damn thing with the Sonic games beyond localization, they can't put them in the games. SoJ makes the Sonic games, but they don't own the comic and cartoon characters (with the exception of Sticks the Badger, hence why she was able to get a Sonic Channel profile, and a playable appearance in both Sonic Runners and Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games), so they can't put them in the games either.
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>>165879389
Wendy or TB as Bowser with Eggman as Peach in this pic when?
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>>165878525
That's cute, man. Hope you eventually finish it.
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https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/NOV161172
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>>165880205
this doesnt help my confusion at all
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How hard is it to get a commission from Hesse or Skelly?
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>>165880205

Was that just posted up?
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Is this the autism thread?
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>>165880205
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
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>>165880517
Nope, the Undertale General is a bit further down the catalog.
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>>165879529
This kind of thing isn't uncommon actually. Like Capcom of America holds the rights to Street Fighter and I believe Final Fight as well.
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>>165878525
I don't know why my phone flipped the image to the side however.
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>>165880205
Seems like delays to give time for Archie to try and get their shit together if they can manage.
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>>165880389
I don't know if they open online. Hesse draws sketches at conventions.
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>>165880796
He's antagonizing you. Throw him into a glass of water. That'll teach him.
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>>165881472
>head of the project stepped down right after the demo released
That kinda sucks.
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>>165879471
lol,well either you or whoever you're getting your info from isn't very high on the need-to-know ladder
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>>165881561
I'd say that's true. That's been made apparent to me from a few different situations, and I've grown to not expect much more from Archie.
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>>165869195
>Suddenly saying that she is actually based on an organic being's brain just fucking ruins all that.

But that's wrong. She was the program that Ellidy made to help map out the neural pathways.
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>>165869195
She should've stayed a soulless machine, perhaps being the straight man of the group (When Antoine wasn't that and even then he could be fairly comedic)
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>>165869195

But she's not based on an organic being's brain, just her traits and predispositions.

Part of the basic question of a lot of AI literature is where does the code end and the entity begin. Nicole's origin in the new lore makes that an open question, thus bringing her more in line with modern themes in AI literature.
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>>165869195
Is it me or does sally and nicole look stoned out of their minds?
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>I will never get to tell Sally that she is my girlfriend...

Fuck my life.
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>>165882001
Not trying to neg you or anything. Just sayin, I know what's goin on and there should be people you can ask.
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>>165882120
I think it'd be cool if she tried to act organic, but it was a lot more obvious she didn't know a lot. Like she understands eating, but she doesn't really get why people enjoy cooking. Or she gets the idea of sex, but she doesn't understand affection. She's purely logic based and has 0 understanding of emotion. If she looked at stars all she'd see is the facts about stars and can't understand "beautiful" or why stars are "beautiful"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNedFHhOh7U
I'll admit, Aleena jumping up and down was cute.
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Well, if idk about you faggots but if the Sonic Comic is going to be cancelled I'm going to send it off with a smile. Don't cry because it's over, be happy that it happened at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9Gc6rreQSY
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>Comic is being cancelled.
>We didn't even get to the Sonic Black arc yet.
What a damn shame.
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>Archie Sonic goes off the subscription page
>At the same time FCBD gets replaced with shitty Riverdale tie-in
>Days later listings show Newest SU release being pushed back to February while new STH gets pushed back to March

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?!
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What the fuck is this Riverdale people are talking about?
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>>165884457
YOUR NEW FAVORITE TV OBSESSION!
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>>165884457
Their new TV show
>>165884335
I was gonna say it was cancelled, but I guess...not? When was the listing changed?
This makes the hiatus look normal
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>>165884547
NO.

NONE OF THAT.

SHAME ON YOU.
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>>165884457
An edgy version of Archie, anon.
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>>165884591
https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/NOV161172
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>>165884457
The hip new Archie TV show, coming soon to The CW.
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>>165884335
>Newest SU release being pushed back to February while new STH gets pushed back to March
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>>165884756
This is oddly a good thing, because this could mean that the comic is still alive, but delayed. I'll take delays over cancellation
>>165884704
I saw that, but WHEN was it changed
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>>165884457
The new way-past-cool Archie tv show, that you'll love!
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>>165884867
I don't know. People are saying it was changed either today or yesterday.
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>>165884961
So basically not even Archie knows if the comic's gone or not?
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>>165885097
Archie business higher up do, Archie "lower" employees (writers, artists) do not
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Why on earth haven't they just answered if it is or isn't cancelled yet?
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>>165885097

Legal anon here. That's in line with what I'm thinking.

They're probably up for renewal with Sega and this whole Fulop mess has been happening.

The judge will rule on the motions to dismiss within the next month. They're probably negotiating with Archie and whatever the judge rules will determine what Archie's cut will look like or if there will be a comic at all.

This is the first substantive ruling that'll come from the court, so they're probably waiting to see what the judge thinks of the arguments and assess their chances from there.

Essnetially, Licensing is either going to take a big stick to Archie, a little stick to Archie, no stick to Archie, or just kill the comic outright.
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>>165885313
Because it seems like nobody knows at this point. We'll probably know within the month at best
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Hey, comic anon, how's the timeline going?
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>>165884867
>this could mean that the comic is still alive, but delayed. I'll take delays over cancellation
That's true, let the waiting game begin; hopefully this gives the threads more hope instead of succumbing to all the negative waves.
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>>165885573
Holy fuck, I just had the wildest flashback to the beginnings of the general with that anon making a timeline of the games.
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Did Eggman win?
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>>165874517
What webcomic is this?
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>>165885924
>Webcomic

Anon, I've got bad news....
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>>165886041
Ah, crap.
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>>165885690
Was it the anon who made this or am I mistaken?
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>>165886280
Welcome to Marvel anon
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>>165886409
I-it's just an edit, right?
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>>165886409

Fuck...That's Six panels of Same.

They actually PULLED A PENDERS
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>>165886409
CTRL+C CTRL+V CTRL+C CTRL+V CTRL+C CTRL+V CTRL+C CTRL+V CTRL+C CTRL+V
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>>165886409
As soon as I looked at that image this shit instantly came to my mind >>165886674
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>>165886674

And now for the Loss edit!
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>>165875751
How did you last 10 issues? I lasted like 6 before I just couldn't take it anymore. Kate Leth getting her hands on Sonic is my personal nightmare, right next to Penders regaining writing duties
>>165886674
Someone show this man Bendis' shit. Bendis repeats panels all the fucking time. In fact, anyone got the "Bobby, you're gay" page on hand, I dont'.
>>165886673
Nope.
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>>165886409
For fuck sake. Remember when comics were fun?? We don't, have some sjw shit.
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>>165886893
There's still some fun comics, they're just mostly at DC. Any fun comic Marvel puts out (Like anything by Ewing) will inevitably just be sucked into the million events they do (We're in the middle of one right now, another one is starting soon during the current event, and then there's another hero vs hero event on the horizon)
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>>165886674
>six
Anon come on now, you can clearly see the eyes have changed. That is a clear indication of months worth of artistic effort, only 5 panels of same. They surely aren't bad because of this right? CTRL+C CTRL+V
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>>165886893
That's Marvels new shtick.
Making a new character is too hard so just gender swap a current one and give it to some tumblr upstart who'll work for cheap.

This could be Sonic one day.
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>>165887220
Don't forget the events anon. And the editors. If you thought Kaminski was bad you ain't see shit. Hell, our old friend Gabrie has/had a job at Marvel
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>>165887101
>>165887220

I will never understand why people read anything in comic that doesn't have a fuck-long history and a strong writer that can stand on their own.
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>>165886409
Truly.
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>>165887401

Kaminski works on Teen Titans now.
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>>165887516
Okay, this is the edit, right?
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>>165887456
Because someone like Bendis will come along and assfuck that continuity hard. Sonic is a very, VERY lucky comic in that it can have a consistent direction for so long. Most comics you're lucky to have the same writer for a year or two
>>165887565
Honestly I'm not surprised. That entire franchise is cursed
>>165887583
Oh anon, you're so naive
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>>165887516
This better be a meme.
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>>165887583
Anon, I....
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>>165887583
I-Im sorry anon, but...
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>>165887627
>>165887675
It's a reprint that was edited by Marvel?
[spoilers]And people wonder why I like the movies[/spoilers]
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>>165887583
Nope.

>>165887669
Well, it became a meme, if that's what you're asking.
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>>165887812
Nope, the original comic
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>>165887946
But I thought SJW's liked gay people.
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>>165887812
Just highlight and ctrl/s to spoiler bro
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>>165887516
Disney saw value in this company?
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>>165886386
Ok one thing about that chart bothers me. It's doesn't have a explanation about Eggman being in lost world if he was trapped in the void at the ending of generations.
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>>165888018
thanks bro
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>>165888064
He finally found that door.
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>>165888046
Disney saw value in the IPs for movies and merchandise. They couldn't give two shits about the actual comics, they exist only so they can retain the trademarks.
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>>165888046
For the movies, not the comics
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>>165888013
They're not particularly thrilled with any Middle Eastern country.

>>165888046
They saw value in the movies. If the first Iron Man movie had flopped hard enough to prevent Marvel Studios from making any more movies, Marvel would still be its own company or even, dare I say, dead.
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>>165888163
Sure i go with that
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>>165886386
I think. There were like a thousand different versions.
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>>165888064
They finally found that door over there.
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>>165887516
>>165887946
This shit can't be real
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>>165888418
This one I remember particularly because this one took our input.
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>>165888474
The 2nd post is an edit, the first isn't
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>>165886875
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>>165889310
Wow I sure fucked that filename up
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>>165889310
>Your gay
>Nuh-uh
>*Waves arms for 3 panels* You are now!
>Fuck

Mind rape/altering, this is why mutants need to be expunged.
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These last several hours has shown everybody that Sonic should never be given to Marvel.
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>>165889479
So how bad is DC?
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>>165889479

>>165889310 happens in the comics, but you get to choose the characters. Who do you choose?
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>>165889559
They fucking relaunch their titles too much, but other than that they are all right.
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>>165889559
Have you ever wanted the entire franchise to be exactly like the Shadow game, except taken completely seriously? No? Well too bad.
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>>165889443
Hilarious how easy it is to read it that way. It was the first thing I thought of before I even knew what the source was.
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>>165889667
But they got a lot less edgy with Rebirth. It's pretty good.
>>165889643
Make Sally gay. Let the chaos begin
>>165889775
Honestly this edit is so much better than what we got
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>>165889643
"Amy... you're gay."
"No I'm not. I love Sonic."
"You love the idea of Sonic. But you wish he was a girl."
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>>165889838
>Implying making Tails gay for Sonic isn't believable.
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>>165889658
The last thing Sonic needs is yet another reboot.

What companies are there left aside from IDW?
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>>165889643
>Tails you're gay
>Alright
>No you lov-, wait what?
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>>165889940
Titan Comics? They make a lot of vidya comics.
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>>165889940
Boom, Image, Dark Horse. The only one of those brands Sonic really fits is Boom who is also kinda shitty apparently.
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I have faith in Archie. The sonic series will continue, it'll just be delayed out the ass for a while. We had like a 3 month window between titles last year, this'll just be like that.

I have faith the book will continue.
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>>165889868
>Amy goes after Blaze now.
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>>165890047

They're not shitty to their customers. Just to the creatives.

IDW is the best fit. I wouldn't want Flynn to suffer for us.
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>>165890102
If there was a guarantee that someone else would pick it up I wouldn't mind Archie getting dropped. They have proved they are willing to fuck over other series for the sake of Archie.
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Which is the better twitter account, Sonic the Hedgehog or Wendy's?
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>>165890165
But he's suffering Archie for us.
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>>165890102
I have faith that IDW will pick up the comic where it left off, same team and number and all.

Also, that the same will happen for Mega Man.

>>165890231
Sonic is the only reason I got a Twitter.
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Post cute Amy arts
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>>165889643
Coincidentally relevant pic related.
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>>165890289
Somehow, I doubt Sega will let them keep the FFs though.
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>>165889443
>>165889775
Never been a Marvel fan myself so I'm not too up to date on this, but I once saw a theory that Jean really did make him gay, knowingly or subconsciously, through a deep psychological desire to have a gay friend.
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>>165890289
>Also, that the same will happen for Mega Man.

Not a chance, there are no heroes left in man.
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I want marvel to do an entire story about how Trump is Galactus and earth's heroes all have to team up and stop him. It's stupid shit, but it's shit stupid enough to get idiots to buy it and arrogant retards to read it so at the end of the day Marvel still gets paid and Trump gets to rant on Tweeter.

If Sega wants to make money they'll approach Marvel about picking up the series, I don't really care about the quality of the comic, I just came here to laugh at you
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>>165890439
They're called dreams for a reason, anon.

>>165890378
IDW helps convince Sega to keep them because yet another reboot will be bad?
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>>165890397
It's just Bendis being hack trying to gain popularity through Outrage!™
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>>165890378
I honestly don't think they care as long as game characters have the spotlight. When they redesigned the cast it wasn't because Sega said they were gonna axe them its because they understood it was a possibility so they wanted to appease them. I think sometimes we exaggerate how harsh sega is on the comics since we don't work with them. I mean these guys did let Ian do a story where Eggman went insane then proceeded to shit on Sonic and the FF for a good chunk of it.
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>>165890441
But Sega doesn't care about money, they deeply and truly care about the quality of their art.
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>After over 24 years in a near-continuous run, it appears there are some very strong signals that Archie’s Sonic the Comic is set to be cancelled in the near future. Following phone calls from multiple parties, including members of our own SSMB to Archie’s subscription office, we have learned that they are not taking any more subscriptions pending more information.


>The rep contacted stated that there was a high likelihood that Sonic the Hedgehog issue #290 would be the last issue release for the main comic (which would correspond to Sonic Universe #94 likely being the last issue for the sister publication).

>While the news we have received is yet to be confirmed via any statement through Archie itself, it is surely troubling news to the many fans who still subscribe to the comic.

>Update: Since the time of publishing, more people have been in contact with Archie. The same rep from earlier is now saying that the subscriptions are just temporarily offline. Whether this is the case or not is yet to be seen, but we will update when new information is available.
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>>165890323
K
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>>165889643
I'm still trying to decide which characters specifically, but I do want it to be a lesbian pairing. If Amy's involved, maybe make her bisexual so that she can still pursue Sonic on the side?
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>>165890378

You again.

We get it, you hate the FF and want to see them gone.

This isn't the time.
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How does /sthg/ feel about Julie-Su? How much better is she than Sally or Amy or Rouge?
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>>165890142
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>>165890839
>maybe make her bisexual
>Amy goes after Sonic & Blaze/Sally

Why not?
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>>165890890
Where did I say I hate the Freedom Fighters?
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>>165890953
Like everything else Penders introduced, she could theoretically have potential under a decent writer but was ultimately a big heap of nothing and whogivesashit under Penders.
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>>165890839
That works. I don't mind a bi Amy
>>165890102
It's really weird that this happened in January AGAIN
>>165890953
She's a shit. But tragic in how she could've been amazing

>>165890973
>People bitched about no more love triangles with Sally
>Sonic/Sally/Amy turns into Sally/Amy/Nicole three way
Not sure how to feel about this
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>>165890809
Archie is just so retarded with PR.

Fuck Riverdale
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The main thing I'm gonna miss the most is Shadow not being edgy but being more Super Vegeta like, I never would of imagined he of all people would be jealous of Sonic being Sonic, I think he actually flashed a genuine smile before,too.
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>>165890953
She's horrifyingly shitty.
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>>165891141
Back then he was bascially Sonic with a massive superiority complex.
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>>165891038
This. Sadly, Ian was unable to redeem her before the reboot, as he had with so many of Penders' other donut steels.

>>165891085
>That works. I don't mind a bi Amy

A pansexual Rouge would also work, in my opinion.
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>>165887565
Someone else edits the new Teen Titans series. Paul works on some Superman family books.
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What would you do if SoA took the rights off archie so SoJ could buy them meaning we could get the FF in a legit game for oh lets say Join the Revolution time?
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>>165891630
Tbh I could see Pan Sonic too. Just seems like the kind of guy who gives 0 fucks about his sexuality or being judged for it

And Julie Su was unsalvageable
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>>165891982
Well, for one thing, that would be impossible, because Archie doesn't own the rights to the FF.
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>>165891630
>pansexual
So bisexual.
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>>165891982
Scourge was only one who got jp fan art. He's dead, so what would they want with the FFs?
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>>165890797
>>165890441

SEGA cares actually a LOT about money, but here's the thing about licensed comics: No matter how successful they are they're never a good source of revenue for the licensor. Be it Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon or Sega, etc. Licensed comics are more lucrative as a source of advertising and increasing brand saturation than they are as revenue stream.
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>>165892082
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Okay.

Post something that is sure to trigger somebody on /sthg/.
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>>165892047
>Tbh I could see Pan Sonic too. Just seems like the kind of guy who gives 0 fucks about his sexuality or being judged for it

I actually see Sonic as being asexual. He doesn't really seem like the type to be interested in romance or sexuality. At all. It would just tie him down, keep him from his twin loves of action and adventure.

>And Julie Su was unsalvageable

Perhaps. Perhaps not. We'll never know now.

>>165892082
From what I understand, bisexual people are attracted to both men and women, but differently from each other (for example, Harley Quinn of DC Comics is attracted to men and women, but she desires the Joker, a man, above Poison Ivy, a woman), while pansexual people are attracted to all gender identities equally.
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>>165892568
>Sonic was never good, only the music
>Game Grumps lets plays are the only reason Sonic is still popular
>Penders did nothing wrong
>Shadow is emo/edgy
>Tails is worthless/needs to be independent
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>>165892779
>while pansexual people are attracted to all gender identities equally.
So bisexual.
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>>165892779
>I actually see Sonic as being asexual. He doesn't really seem like the type to be interested in romance or sexuality. At all. It would just tie him down, keep him from his twin loves of action and adventure.
Fair enough, I totally get where you're coming from
>Perhaps. Perhaps not. We'll never know now.
She'd need an overhaul at minimum, and that includes breaking her up with Knuckles.
>>165892834
>>Shadow is emo/edgy
To be fair he literally likes nothing. That is kind of misanthropic
>>165892904
Bi does not include Trans, Pan does. That's the only difference
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>>165892834
>>165892568
Sonic is/isn't the Embodiment of Chaos.
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>>165892939
Trans isn't a gender.
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>>165892568
>>165893019
If Blaze is the embodiment of the sun doesn't that make her kind of like Superman?
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>>165892568
[your waifu] is a terrible character.
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>>165892939
>Bi does not include Trans, Pan does.

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of transitioning genders?
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>>165892939
>Shadow
>Misanthropic

He sacrificed himself to save the world to keep his promise to a dead human friend.
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>>165892568
People who sexualize Tikal are disgusting.
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>>165893159
>I-it's not like I LIKE life anything.
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>>165893159
He did it only for that promise. He dislikes all of humanity. I'm not even making it up, and I think it's dumb that he apparently likes nothing considering he does seem to give a shit about Rouge and Omega
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>>165893089
That's not how her fire powers work.

She's the Iblis Trigger.
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>>165893019
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>>165893118
>waifu is 8 years old
>comic is about to die and she never got to be a relevant character in any arc
Just end my suffering.
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>>165893313
Then you know what must be done.
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>>165891982
The only Archie character that should ever be in the games is Snively
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>>165893089
No. Superman is like a living solar battery with no upper limit to the charge he can hold. He is not, himself, an embodiment of the sun, he just draws power from it.
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>>165892834
Add
>Talking shit about someone's waifu or husbando
>Shipping in general but especially when it is characters that someone doesn't approve of.

>>165893176
>When there is(was) constant Tikal posting with Dark Ages-tier of bad art.
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>>165893463
ITS NO USE!
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>>165893630
>When there is(was) constant Tikal posting with Dark Ages-tier of bad art.
The worst part. I just want more cute fan art.
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>>165893079
This
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>>165893568
Why? Eggman already has the superior Orbot and Cubot.
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>>165894098
You're funny
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>>165894151
It's the truth.
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>>165893771
> I just want more cute fan art.
She is very cute when not drawn like shit.
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>>165894334
Too bad you couldn't find an example to post.
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>>165894098
>>165894293
I prefer Snively too desu
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>Sonic comics mite b ending
>VGCW definitely ending
Life is disappointing.
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>>165894560
WHAT COLOR
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>>165894560
That freaky little gnome has no business being in a Sonic game.
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>>165894680
He's too handsome for a Sonic game
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>>165893449
>waifu is 8 years old
the term is either daughterfu or pedophilia
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>>165894680
fits better than the Freedom Fighters
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Honestly, the only comic character that deserved to be in the games was Scourge.
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>>165874012
DC getting Sonic would be the best outcome if Archie dies.
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>>165895256
>Scourge

kek
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>>165895256
I would rather have Razor and his sister
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>>165873057
>IDW Sonic crossover with MLP

I would go full cans.wav if that happened.

I couldn't deal with that much autism.
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>>165895359
>Sonic goes to DC on its 25th anniversary of the comics
>25 backwards
>52
>Sonic rebooted at 252
>52
It fits the Hypercrisis
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>>165895256
Scourge didn't even deserve to be in the damn comic
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>>165895532
>cans.wav

Oh man that takes me back.
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>>165895532
>>165895636
>forgetting that crossover already exists
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>>165895837
What do you mean?
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>>165895813
Rouge in non-slutty casual wear is nice and we need more of it.
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>>165890953
Why do comic OCs have such terrible designs half the time?
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>>165896216
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>>165896184
>He doesn't know
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>>165896216
Golf
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>>165896184
>He doesnt know
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>>165896293
>>165896335
I bet you both are just meming.
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>>165896184
You poor innocent child
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>>165896293
>>165896335
>>165896402
I forget, who won?
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>>165896257
Because pre-reboot nobody gave a shit about adhering to standards
Post-reboot, while not perfect design wise, is a hell of a lot better
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>>165896257
Because most of them were done by people who don't give a shit about Sonic and by extension don't give a shit about making something that looks good and fits the established aesthetic.
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>>165896274
I kinda wish this is what Rouge actually wore in the games.
Cute little secret agent spy.
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>>165896479
Lets not talk about it
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>>165896518
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>>165873041
What's this guy's Tumblr/Deviantart name?
I like their art, it'd be greatly appreciated if someone gave me their name so I can look them up.
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>>165873041
Thanks anon!
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>>165895837
>>165896335
>>165896293
WHAT IS IT

TELL ME
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>>165897102
It isnt worth it
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>>165896959
"sketch-meister" on Tumblr. I only use it to do the 30 minute challenges, but there's some old stuff there too. I don't have much taste for social media.

>>165896998
Always!
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>>165895837
That feel when it's your fetish but you can't admit it
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>>165897306
I already saw a webm Chris Chan jizzing out of a fleshwound, I'm ready for anything
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>>165896518
>>165896714
Thunderbolt is so precious
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>>165897385
shit tier fetish
almost literally
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>>165897102
There's a guy who made a set of popular flash animations based on Sonic characters vs MLP characters. It was also found out that he secretly had a Sonic webcomic on the side that pretty much just consisted of Sonic characters farting and shitting.
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>>165897423
Please don't bring that up.
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>>165897570
And he's a pedo

>>165897754
>>165897423
and that wasnt chris
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>>165892568
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>>165897991
Good thing this year is the year of Sonic!
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>>165897385
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>>165897991
Boom's existence confuses me, because Sonic was and still is going through an identity crisis and there was no clear direction for the franchise, and Sega makes that worse by making a spinoff series.
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>>165897991
Holy fuck why did you have to remind me. Fuck SoA.
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>>165893256
Who said he doesn't like anything. I don't think Shadow hates humans like he does before, but he could still be a bit aloof towards them. If he still does hates humans, that doesn't mean he hates everything since he is very protective of Rouge and Omega.
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>>165898285
reminder that if the comic is being canned due to SoJ cutting the fat, the blame is on SoA and Boom
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>>165898449
>Who said he doesn't like anything.
Sonic Channel profile. He likely tolerates Omega and Rouge according to the official canon, but I call bullshit since he very clearly cares about Rouge and Omega
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>>165898531
Could be mistranslated or whoever had wrote that have not played/looked into much games
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>>165893089
Superman draws power from the sun. Blaze IS the sun. Blaze is like the source of Superman's power. If Superman fought Blaze, Blaze could depower him with the snap of her fingers.
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>>165897804
Is it really pedophilia if it's consensual?
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>>165898794
>Could be mistranslated or whoever had wrote that have not played/looked into much games
Perhaps, but I doubt it
>>165898798
I highly doubt that. She's more akin to Johnny Blaze than the fucking SUN
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>>165898798
Blaze can't block out the sun, you fucking retard.
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>>165898531
I wouldn't find it hard to believe if you asked Shadow straight up what he likes, he wouldn't tell you shit or that he likes anything. I don't think he actually feels this way, but it's just what he'd say.
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>>165893256
>>165898531
Did it ever occur to you that, maybe, "likes" refers to interests and hobbies?
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>>165898869
Should I just screencap his Channel profile?
>>165898932
Perhaps. The category for his likes on the profile is "Favorite thing"
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>>165897991
>Cocktails served
kek
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>>165898860
>She's more akin to Johnny Blaze than the fucking SUN

You meant Johnny Storm (the Human Torch), not Johnny Blaze (Ghost Rider), right? Or are you saying her powers are derived from Iblis, or whatever?
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>>165898794
The profiles are written like how the characters would be when they first appear. So, Shadow's profile matches up mostly with his appearance at the start of SA2. Similary, Silver's profile mentions his dislike of Iblis.

>Shadow: Real name : Shiyadou za Hejjihoggu
>English name : Shadow the Hedgehog
>Nickname : Shiyadou
>Classification : Hedgehog
>Gender : Male
>Height : 100 cm
>Weight : 35 kg
>Favorite things : None
>Loathed things: Mankind in general
>Special skills: Chaos Control * Chaos Blast * >Chaos Spear

>This black hedgehog and Sonic are as alike as two melons. Dr. Eggman's grandfather, Professor Gerald, the genius scientist of the era, produced Shadow as the ultimate life-form. Using the Chaos Emeralds gives Shadow the ability to warp space-time (Chaos Control). He holds true to his aims, not avoiding a path because of danger.
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>>165899016
Yeah, I meant Johnny Storm.
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>>165899020
>This black hedgehog and Sonic are as alike as two melons
Nani?
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>>165899020
Is that why Eggman's real name is listed as unknown? If Sonic Channel started up around SA1 or SA2, it makes sense, since Eggman's real name in Japan wasn't revealed until SA2.
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>>165899145
You know, like two peas in a pod?
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>>165899194
It was like 2003-2004?
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>>165900336
T-Thanks Hiroshimoot.

Ate my image and spit out something different.
Now there's a cute Bunnie and Sally image somewhere else on 4chan randomly.
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>>165900336
What exactly does this have to do with blue hedgehogs?
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>>165890953
I like that when Knuckles was busy with other things, he trusted her enough to lead the Chaotix.
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>>165900608
Sad that neither of them really did much. Even in the Chaotix arc, Remy did most of the heavy lifting iirc
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>>165896257
I still don't get why it was so fucking hard to just get a different design for the quills/dreads? Like how did anyone think that having tufts of different-colored and textured hair just spouting from the forehead was good design. It haunts me to this day.
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>>165901071
That would imply Penders cared about SegaSonic design standards, or that he could design characters in general. I've seen countless redesigns of his characters, and even the worst ones are miles better than his ideas.

Penders just cannot create. He's a shit writer, artist, inker, colorist, letterer, and then some.
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>>165899337
>tfw TLSC releases and somehow makes money
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>>165900752
I did like some stories that they did, like pic related. When I was 13 reading this it really affected me because a friend of mine died 6 years earlier and it hadn't really connected to me that he was gone for good until reading this issue. It was like a bit of therapy. Not really a fan of Charmy but I hate they made him have a child-like behavior, when there was this story
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>>165901071
Because they weren't designing Sonic characters, they were designing humans and then making them mobians. This is why almost every echidna looks the same. Ken just designed humans, then replaced the majority of them with Knuckles.
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>>165900491

Nah, the way this bug works is if two people post an image at the exact same time on 4chan, one will override the other. Notice the thumbnail dimensions don't match the full image, yet match the image you were going to post.

The other poster won't have even noticed, nothing changed on his post.
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Assuming Archie is putting out solicitations soon, I'm gonna guess they'll just re-post the ones from last month is Sonic's slot due to the delays. Similar to what happened during the hiatus.
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>>165901071
My guess is that most people can't think anything creative when it comes to giving echidna's different hairstlye without making their unrecognizable when compared to Knuckles. Besides how do we know that dreads aren't echidna's natural quillstyle anyway. Look at Tikal and her father's tribe
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>>165901071
>>165901143
Penders probably doesn't know what an irl echidna is, he probably thought the comic, and by that I mean him, invented them.
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>>165901260
I can see your reasons for liking the issue, but sadly I can't agree with the idea that it's good. Don't mean to shit on something that helped you through a hard time, but it just felt like a really shitty PSA. I'll give it this, it wasn't nearly as shitty as the arcs following it. I feel like once the Echidna Nazis thing happened the book started spiraling out of control horribly
>>165901403
Wouldn't be surprised. He seriously thinks Eggman post-reboot is Robo-Robotnik
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>>165901386
>My guess is that most people can't think anything creative when it comes to giving echidna's different hairstlye without making their species unrecognizable when compared to Knuckles. Besides how do we know that dreads aren't echidna's natural quillstyle anyway? Look at Tikal and her father's tribe
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>>165901260
To be fair, the child behavior was mandated later. At the time Knuckles' Chaotix was released, the NA manual changed up their personalities completely. One of the changes being that Vector and Charmy were "jamming", "cool", and "charming" teenagers (at least Charmy was, at the age of 16). When Heroes came around and retconned (for America, at least) Charmy into a hyperactive 6-year old, it was hard to adapt so suddenly. I don't like how Ian did it, but I sympathize since it was something that had to be done, and quick.
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>>165901485
Don't get me wrong, in the grand scheme of things it was pretty shitty. As a kid though I greatly enjoyed them. I feel like it's on tier with things like Plan 9, yeah it's a bad movie but it's fun to watch.

What I would pay though to see a literal interpretation of the Knuckles comic in animated or live action form. Echidna Nazis, fucked up family tree, thousand year old grandpas having fights and all.
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>>165901386
I'm fine with them all having dreads, its just the way Penders gave them all identical dreads but put completely different hair on top of that. I don't think he understood that the dreads/spines were meant to be equated to hair at all and instead thought that that's just what Hedghog/Echidna skulls were supposed to look like.

Like yeah, Echidnas do seem to be pretty homogenous if SA1 is any indication, but I'm just saying his method of making them distinct was shitty.
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>>165901609
Should be noted that the Japanese manual didn't even have an age for Charmy.
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>>165901827
Honestly I'd take a rewrite first, because I have some ideas for reworking certain characters, like Julie Su and Locke and the Brotherhood. I'd keep a lot of things the same, but I think if you tweaked it just a bit you could create something actually worthwhile
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>>165901609
I blame Iizuka personally.
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>>165901485
Honestly? That just makes me angry that some asshole told Penders about Sonic Chronicles, since he would NEVER have found out about it on his own because he seems only vaguely aware that Sonic is primarily a video game character.
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>>165901951
Go for it, I'd love to see it. Maybe we could even photoshop some panels or have our resident drawfags do some.
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>>165901883
Yeah, I agree. Fucking Penders. Though I like how Shade has a different quillstyle, but we can still identify her as an echidna.
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>>165902165
Though one thing I do find interesting is if this guy is any indication, Sega design guidelines okay different colored eyebrows for older characters, and I kind of like that instead of having a moustache/beard just added on to the muzzle, Pachacamac's beard covers it completely. I thought that's what they were doing with Uncle Chuck's Nu252 design, but apparently they just made it bushier.

...The flesh-colored parts of Sonic characters is meant to be skin right? Not differently colored fur? That still just feels weird to me.
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>>165902092
Eh, I doubt I have the chops and patience to actually do it, it's just some ideas I have
>>165902087
He also seems to think that the comics are the most important part of the franchise and that games can't tell stories. Also that his version of Sonic is accurate despite being the single most dickish version of Sonic out there. Every single version of Sonic out there seems to be motivated by some sense of justice and has endless compassion, except for Penders. Wanna know what HE thinks Sonic is?

>When you stop and think how Sega looks at the character, he’s all ego and attitude. He thinks about number one. He can accept Tails because Tails is the subordinate junior assistant to his main act. He’d consider Sally nothing more than a fun to be with every now and then (if that) and a drag the rest of the time. His attitude towards Sally, and females in general, in probably much like that MTV-character in the movie She’s All That. The way he ditches the girl is so Sonic-like. (“You think all I want to do is spend my life with you? That’s cool and all, but I gotta go fight Robotnik! Later, babe!”)

>I know I’m going to get into a lot of disagreement with people over this, but I’ve yet to hear anyone ever say “Y’know, he can be such an arrogant jerk, but he’s really quite lovable under all that!” They usually stop the comment after the word “jerk”.

>If Sonic ever dated anyone else, it’s not because he fancies himself a ladies man. He’d more likely think any girl would simply want the privilege of spending time with him. And if she ever did try to tie him down, he’d be gone in a flash.
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>>165895551
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>>165902351
I've always assumed Sonic's face, arms, and chest where just beige colored fur.

Thought the same of Rouge as well. The idea of her being hairless is weird.
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>>165902425
Don't let that creativity just waste away bro, I'd hate to see that. Write it down and see if you can flesh it out.
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>>165902503
Yeah I can accept that.
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>>165902351
If 06's concept renders are anything to go by, the body's have fur while the arms (probably hands, too) and muzzle don't.
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>>165902607
I guess. Maybe someone here could actually do something with it
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>>165902459
>DC picks up the Sonic comics
>With Morrison as the writer
Chaos Control is about to get a lot weirder.
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>>165902705
Think about what CHAOS truly is. Now think about trying to control it.
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>>165902873
>Shadow's resurrection takes place 52 years after his birth
FUCK
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Fun Fact: Yardley had never done art for an off panel
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Post Sonic Memes to ease the pain.
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>>165903867
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Who /Bluelantern/ here?
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>>165903867
my heart is the color of grey
fuck everything
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>>165903952
but Charmy is correct.

>>165904003
Sorry, but I lost hope a long time ago.
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>>165903867
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>>165903867

>>165903952
It's not blasphemy if it's correct.
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>>165904224
>Sorry, but I lost hope a long time ago.
I did too until it was announced that some issues were delayed. I know it sounds insane, but the fact that they were delayed and not delisted means that there is a chance of them coming out, and I will GLADLY wait a month or two if it means the comic staying alive
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Guess who started drawing Sonic again...
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>>165904428
I don't care.
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>>165904367
It likely got delayed so they can reuse SU96 and StH 293 in solicits for April. Even during the hiatus, they never missed a solicit.

Hopefully this is just trying to give them more time to work things out, likely with SEGA.
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>>165904756
Honestly, if that's the case, then I'm okay with that. The fact they bothered to change the date at all means there's still a chance. Time is what we need, and I'll gladly wait
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>>165904003
Nah.
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>>165903867
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>>165904428
...Dammit, I like this (the eyes not being together bugged me though). Why someone who draw something this decent would make a cringeworthy comic exist?
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>>165904428
Oh god

>>165905308
But anon, that never happened.
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>>165898805
Yes
How is this even a question?
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>>165901883
Well considering how many of the Dark Legion's "cybernetics" were just metal bits on the left side of their dreads...
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>>165904524
The filename fucking killed me
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>>165902425
>He thinks about number one. He can accept Tails because Tails is the subordinate junior assistant to his main act.

Yeah they're not like brothers or best friends of anything along that line. Tails is just acceptable as a non-threat.
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Death match between the Tails's from each continuity. Who wins?
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>>165907263
Yeah sure a mechs great and all, but tails adventure tails has an arsenal, and you know bombs.
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>>165907404
Archie Tails and Game Tails have that though.

In fact it's not really fair since Archie Tails is just a more seasoned Game Tails
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>>165875949
HOW'S ABOUT KICK THE TURTLE
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>>165902503
Though I guess the problem with that is that would mean that Shadow has a whopping four distinct fur colors.
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>>165906310
I know. He literally gave them robotic hair.
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Goodnight, /sthg/. Everything will be okay.
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HERE I COME
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>>165909035
goodnight anon
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I've been gone for 12 hours

What the fuck happened? Has an actual cancellation been announced?
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>>165909532
There are posts from earlier showing the comic release dates have been push back to later ( >>165880205 and >> 165884335); main comic to March and universe to February. A delay in the comics release is better than the whole thing getting canceled.
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>>165909763
>>165884335
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>>165909532
Archie hasn't announced anything. They are still officially silent on the matter giving out no public response, just information to people who have called.

We have conflicting information as another person who called Archie received different information than the others, simply saying that the books are temporarily off the site compared to the first callers who were told they can't say anything or take subscriptions until they have more info and that Archie will provide more information later on.

Archie quietly pushed back the release dates of a few comics coming up to late February and early March. What exactly this means? No one knows.

As it stands, it is not officially cancelled yet.
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This reminds me, I know it probably won't say anything, but did anyone who emailed Archie in regards to the situation ever receive a reply?
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Don't panic, but Comixology changed the release dates of SU95 and Sonic 291 to December 27th, 2017...

https://www.comixology.com/Sonic-Universe-95/digital-comic/472851

https://www.comixology.com/Sonic-the-Hedgehog-291/digital-comic/457217
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>>165910679

Weeeeeird.

That's gotta be a placeholder date, right?
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>>165910870
Likely, it's the last Wednesday of the year. Kinda like how the Mania release date on Amazon is the last day of May.

Something else that is interesting is that the comixology pull site hasn't updated any dates, at all. Not even the date here >>165880205. they were one of my go tos during the hiatus to see the delays.

I used to check Google Play too during the hiatus for release date updates, but SU95 and Sonic 291 aren't on there, but I don't when Google Play usually puts up those pages before release.

Shit is fucking weird.
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If Archie would end StH... Would another company be able to buy the rights to produce the comics?
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>>165912103
It's all up to SEGA. They can give the license to another publisher.
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If I call Archie and tell them I will commit suicide if they don't tell me the fate of the Sonic comic, you think I could wring the answer out of them?

>>165912103
Maybe but it would be garbage since SEGA would mandate that it be Pontac and Graff style.
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>>165912208
Please don't traumatize Archie's phone people.

Even then, they might just say things to make you feel better rather than give you the answer.
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>>165886409
The world of comics outside of Sonic is very very awful! Please don't die.
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>>165912526

Can someone with a twitter account who isn't blocked by Ken Penders please say this in response to his tweet he just posted:

"Because you copyrighted the works, Ken. Because that's the only way you fight against someone copyrighting works that aren't theirs ken, is launch a lawsuit. Because you sued Sega and Sega was angry at Archie ken. You complicate matters when it suits you, but you oversimplify when it makes you look better."
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>>165912272
That sounds pretty nice actually. I'd call but I don't live in the US so it would cost me an arm and a leg and I need those to fast
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>>165912759
What's he said this time?
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>>165912759
I'm still laughing from Toby being drunk and trolling Ken, but his ego will not let him understand anything rational so there really isn't a point in telling that prick anything.
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>>165912759

Also, if Ryan Bloom is in the building: There was no oversight. Archie had a fucking contract. One that would stand up in court. No court says copies of contracts aren't evidence of contract. Ken Penders is sticking to his legal bullshit that would have been shot down if they made it trial.
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>>165912915

In response to someone pointing out that no one benefited from the lawsuit and the current creatives and fans suffered:

"You're totally ignoring Archie's actions. Did you know they could have resolved the whole matter for less than what they paid their lawyers? The record will show I did everything reasonable to resolve this yet they were the ones who filed a lawsuit."

In the U.S., there's only one way to fight someone illegally claiming copyright ownership of your work at the U.S. copyright office. That's file a lawsuit. The U.S. copyright office does not do any investigations, and only relies on court orders to fix errors.
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>>165913005

Adding on, someone needs to fucking shove that contract in his face. He claimed it wasn't produced, but I'm almost 100% sure that Archie produced it with one of their pleadings. It sucks that you need to use PACER to get it, though.
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>>165912970
>toby drunk trolling ken

Wait what, this sounds amazing.
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>>165913551
Last night (in the thread before this one) Toby was messaging Ken as well as sending him pics btfo of Ken's LSC bullshit.
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>>165913449

FUCK YEAH Plainsite has a couple pre-requested.

I don't have the exhibit, but here's the memo of law.

https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/download.html?id=239104079&z=56d6eab5
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>>165913551
Found some of it, enjoy.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TobyTheMediocre/status/821199347337613313
https://mobile.twitter.com/TobyYatesBarre2/status/821211391747096576
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>>165913817
>tobys comments getting more likes than penders'

fucking pottery
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>>165913793

And here's the judge's order

https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/download.html?id=239104106&z=e169890c

Copies of contracts are contracts. The question was based on he said she said and the only person who was saying was Penders and his lawyer. The jury would have found for Archie easily.
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Guys I'm suffering an autism overload over here

What's worse is I think I like it
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>>165913793
>>165914029

Penders seems to think that because he won on summary judgment off a technicality, that it defeated Archie's argument that they had a contract and therefore Archie never had a contract with him.

He would have lost at trial.

This man is unbelievable.
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>>165914375
Legally, the presumption is that the artist owns whatever he comes up with. The exception is when they're hired and have a contract giving that right away. Sort of how SEGA gave Archie the license to use their intellectual property in the first place without ramification.

Never heard about copies being invalid, I mean when you sign a contract you make copies for the sole purpose of not losing them. What kind of world would this be if you could just destroy a contract and be freed from all obligations?
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>>165914562

I know the law, anon. I'm legalanon.

The presumption also is that contracts are valid unless proven otherwise.

I get why the court ruled the way it did, but it was such a god damn margin call that most courts would have ruled the other way. Hell, no way this gets through SJ in my current jurisdiction. The only reason why it didn't in New York is because the court was loathe to extend broad presumption to contracts not under the U.C.C. or with notary endorsement. But like, in most jurisdictions, the former is becoming normalized and the latter barely matters anymore....

Penders got fucking lucky.
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However, Ken Penders does have one trump card which makes him untouchable. Can you guess what that is?
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>>165914739
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>>165914739
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/view.php?pk_id=0000011455

They seem pretty confused as to why it ended up in NY in the first place. Now that's something I want to ask Kenneth, he lives on the other side of the nation.
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>>165915124

Yeah, there's a bunch of other signatures to compare that against. That's his fucking signature. Part of his claim is that they forged it because they're a printing company and could do that, but he offered no evidence.

>>165915140

Archie is in New York's Southern District, and Penders is in New York's Souther District I believe.
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>>165915140
>Now that's something I want to ask Kenneth, he lives on the other side of the nation.
>>165915317
>Penders is in New York's Souther District I believe.

I remember not along ago that anons here said Penders lived in South California (particularly L.A.).
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>>165915521
That's what the transcript said, a resident of California. He wasn't even working at Archie at the time, what the hell was he doing in NY? Did he know somebody?
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>>165915521
>>165915317

Ah, I was wrong. He lives in LA

I thought he resided there because his wife entered appearance in the SD of New York on his behalf.

Still, there's significant enough contacts in that Archie is in the SD for the case to be filed there.
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Bumping the thread before going to bed, it will probably reach the bump limit before I get back online.

Also quick note, /co/ has been having threads all about Penders and the comic, probably on their third one, anyways see you later /sthg/.
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>>165912208
Lisa sounded a bit depressed/stressed. Not majorly, just slightly down.
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>>165917496
Working customer support typically does that, let alone being literally the only person manning the phones during a wave of angry customers.
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>>165915317
What kind of validity do copied contracts have? I don't think you can verify a copied signature's authenticity like you can with one made by hand. Over here you usually sign copies by hand too so they're all exactly the same.
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>>165917247
Goodnight anon, see you when you wake up.
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>>165889612
It's real.
They're straw liberals so the author can pretend he's being neutral while tearing into stand-ins for Fox News analysts.
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>>165907016
>Kayla-na
Looks like she got even shittier.
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>>165896257
People don't get paid enough to analyze the internal design logic.

Just look at Tempo from Mega Man. Her armor is templated after the look of "other humanoid robots"(Bass and the reploids). Problem is those are LITERALLY supposed to be enhanced copies of Rock and X, but Tempo preceeds them both. She has intentional parallels with Blues, but her thematic shielding from emotion is...dead eyes, which doesn't read well in anything but closeups. She's supposed to be strange, as a civil bot like Rock redesigned as a Robot Master, but she has none of the overt design elements that define the Masters.

Even good artists and writers can fail to recognize nuance.
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>>165920562
Lalinde was closely working with Dr. Light, though, so it's probable that there was some bleed through in designs as they shared notes.
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Morning /sthg/.

Hoping today is a bit slower.
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>>165920760
i think last night was everyone just terror posting about the comic cancellation. At this rate even the news it was cancelled would put an end to our suffering but as it stands we'll probably see panicking and shitposting about panicking until they announce a result either way.
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>>165920624
Yeah, but her armor looks like Bass's. Who is supposed to be an ENHANCED Mega Man. If there was just some light similarity it'd be fine, but between that and the lack of an actual visual identity it's a bad design. If they wanted to illustrate the uncertainty between the two iterations of herself they easily could have made her design "imperfect" after the initial arc, since she was nearly crushed to death.
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>>165920852
With the comics indefinitely on hold (on hiatus until at least december), we're going to be worried for quite some time, unless someone says SOMETHING
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>>165921034
When they first announced her, I was expecting something with a heatman face or a gutsman sort of look
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>>165920760
Morning anon. Hoping the same.
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>>165908583
Don't really see how that's a problem.
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>>165921120
I was expecting a weird design with a civvie form. Instead we just got purple-green Bass without shoulderpads.

Really, a lot of the original stuff for Mega Man seemed a bit tone deaf.
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Any Torrents I could use to insta download all comics off of Tails Kicks Ass? Surely there must be one!
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>>165914015
There's some more you can find on his actual page. He was pretty brutal that night.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TobyTheMediocre
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Am I the only one kinda hoping it gets cancelled? Not because I hate the comics or anything, but I'm curious to see how another team would handle the series if it got picked up again. I admit that right now is kind of a bad time though.
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>>165921793

Isn't readcomiconline working for you? Thing came back in business a couple weeks ago.
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So if the comic dies I promise to start Sonic The Continuation and make my own sonic comics with blackjack and hookers.

You'll all support me on patreon, right? I mean like you do Stanley?
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Ok which is the most autistic?
Ken Penders
Chris-Chan
Pal-Comix
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>>165921902
>referencing Medieval Spawn

my fucking sides.
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>>165922276
No, Dremcastx1. NO!
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>>165922276
>continuation
Just make porn of the comic characters.
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>>165922360
I don't know who or what Pal-Comix is, but I've always thought that Chris-Chan is secretly Penders' bastard child.
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>>165922514
is it even possible to make a living being a not shit version of palcomix but just for sonic?
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>>165922528
>I don't know who or what Pal-Comix is
Notorious #34 paysite. It's a bunch of south americans drawing shitty porn of everything and selling it, including the owner BBMBF who charges way too much for the kind of "quality" he delivers. Like $500 for a 10 page comic.

He believes he is above everything and that his porn counts as parody. He only gets away with it because
>south ameruca
He owns other paysites like Mobius Unleashed, a Sonic only site.
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>>165922559
If palcomix can do it so can you.
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I demand a meme where it shows Ken Penders Smiling in front of the computer while it shows the cover of this comics >>364459304

Or anything else meme worthy
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>>165922773
pretty sure palcomix makes its money from doing shit like cream and tails stories which are all pedobait and I'm not doing that.

Plus how the fuck DOES palcomix make money and if it is profitable why the fuck aren't artists like skinbark rolling in it?
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>>165922980
>not drawing Cream and Tails
Just give up.
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Antoine and Sonic should fuck
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>>165922980
Do Sonamy and anti Sally art, that'll make you an easy living.
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>>165923173
>They should fuck -more-

FTFY
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>>165923173
But they do. On a regular basis.
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>>165923072
but drawing cream will get me jailed. Plus I'm not a pedophile.

>>165923215
People will pay for Sonamy? Isn't that like THE most common ship?
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>>165921902
I need to remember to check this out when I come back home tonight.
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>>165922980
Because C&D are a thing and not everyone is a moneygrubbing whore like BBMBBF or CoolRed.
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>>165925415
>horny teens

The FFs are pure, not horny!
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>>165922362
The best part about that was, Ken tried to use Medieval Spawn in his defense earlier that day. Toby turned it on him masterfully.
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>>165922980
Remember that Palcomix farms its art using Brazilian sweatshop children for pennies. There's your profit.
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>>165922980
Because SkinBark draws his own work and is likely balancing his art and life, hence why he has to update in bursts.
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>>165922514
This. Sprinkle in some game characters and you'll be golden.
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>"Until Sega's January broadcast was more 1/24 (Tuesday) 20:55 Nico Nico live & FRESH! in the delivery!

https://twitter.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/821696172561547264

also

http://www.tssznews.com/2017/01/14/a-sonic-boom-storyboard-artist-may-have-confirmed-season-3/
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>>165925630
>bunch of unsupervised adolescents with their own private ship traveling the planet
They at it all the time, man
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>>165926037
I'm sure they're too busy saving the world to have time to fuck, anon.

Besides, most of them aren't even legal.
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>>165926235
anything goes when you're flying over international waters, anon
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>>165926235
it's legal when they are both minors, anon
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>>165926501
Aren't the SatAM FFs of age, & Sonic is 15? So the only minors would be Amy, Cream & Tails, which is just wrong.
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>>165926235
I'm sure Antoine and Bunnie would make time
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Oh boy, it's time to discuss the age of Sonic characters AGAIN.
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>>165926961
Antoine & Bunnie are probably the only ones who have fucked to be honest, & that's to be expected with them being married.

Anyways, in Japan, they're releasing Sonic bath balls
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>>165927251
Okay, that's a cute Shadow.

He's like a grumpy gnome.
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>>165927251
i wonder how much it will cost to import one
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>>165925415
wtf you're right

no wonder my highschool years sucked, I was too busy playing games to notice
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>>165928834
This.
Kids get a lot of sex for being on the high school football team. Just imagine if they overthrew a dictator.
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>>165928834
Couple that with how the characters seem much more mature than their given age.
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>>165926691
Sonic: 15
Tails: 8
Sally: 16 (unofficially)
Nicole: is a computer
Rotor: 17 (unofficially)
Bunnie: 18 (unofficially)
Antoine: 19 (unofficially)

Keep in mind that the FFs' ages are subject to change at any time, and that these are purely for measuring how old each character is relatively, rather than an exact match.
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>>165928834
Preboot is likely, especially Sally since she was a SLUUUT, but it's very unlikely now.

That being said this is a pretty dumb discussion we're having, since no characters can be canonically stated to have sex, outside of parents.
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>ages
Here we go
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>>165929212
>Sonic sits with Amy
>Shadow sits with Rouge
>Tails sits alone
HEDGEHOGGE'D!
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I like the covers from the dark ages of Archie Sonic. they looked rad and larger than life.
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>>165929569
>I like the covers from the dark ages of Archie Sonic. they looked rad and larger than life.
I agree
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>>165929569
Well, y'know, before the comic became famous for being of good quality post-160, the sole reason people kept reading it was that it the world and cast were both swole as fuck
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>>165929569

They also had no consistency or quality control.

I like the ones from the reboot when they had money to burn.
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>>165929569
Yeah.
I'm actually disappointed by how bland and meh the reboot covers are.

But i guess I should appreciate the fact that they exist at all...
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>>165929894
>>165929569
>that fucking Snively
>>
YOU
WILL
DUAL
ME
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>>165930257
[soiler]faker[/spoiler]
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>>165930257
>People actually like this shitty character

Now Silver and Mecha I can get behind. Cool boss fights, didn't overstay their welcome, latter even went Super.

Metal? One race where he's not even the primary threat and then ded. What a joke.
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>>165930369
He's great in the OVA
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Give me a definite answer to a question you have no way of knowing the answer to
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>>165930581
No
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>>165929569
They were certainly interesting and at least more dynamic than the current covers most of the time, but at the cost of the comic inside them usually being trash.
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When's the next comic preview coming out already?
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>>165930617
But you love to!
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>>165930369
because Metal has the best design
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>>165930369
>Preferring these DOWNGRADES
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>>165930637
I should probably add that it was because Spaz drew most of them. Or at least most of the good ones. The latter half of the Dark Ages had some really shit covers
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>>165927251>
>they actually made a product that we use by to rubbing our naked bodies against Sonic characters
L-lewd!
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>>165930369
What about Heroes?
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>>165930793
I want Knuckles to rub my Enchilada dry clean.
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>>165927251
That bottom sequence of pictures is fucking kawaii
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>>165930675
Fine. The answer is Sally
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>>165928834
I'm ten years late!
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>>165930673

It should be any time between today and next Tuesday.

But since #291 has been delayed, it won't be for at least a month.
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>>165930581
But this is pretty amazing if Sega makes a comic with no freedom fighters Blaze will get more exposure!
>>165931546
I don't think I ever will reproduce if the population doesn't drop for some reason
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>>165931795
>I don't think I ever will reproduce if the population doesn't drop for some reason

From what I hear, it's starting to plateau.
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>>165931852
Too late, there are already too many. We need to go full Japan.
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>>165931852
Maybe because I haven't mated, so I don't want to screw that up
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>>165931920
Just make better choices yourself rather than influence others
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https://en.shindanmaker.com/671644
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>>165932783
Heh
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>>165932783
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>>165932783
>Anonymous, the Soul of Cringe, gets lots of beautiful fanart drawn for them.

???
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>>165932783
Damn music is the best part but puns are the final form of humor
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https://en.shindanmaker.com/661387
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>>165930336
>soiler

Not sure why I laughing at that word
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>>165931546
>not becoming a wizard.

Do you not want to wield those Ixis magics?
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>>165934134
Lust I can understand, but Sloth?
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How would sonic react to speedruns?

Do you think he'd want to see if he can out do them himself?
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>>165935759
We're incredibly horny but too lazy to do something about it. Also Sage
>>
>>165935759
I blame Sage. She's a bad influence on our Bump.
>>
>>165935759
kek
>>
>>165935840
He'd only watch the super fast ones. No 4 hour JRPG runs.
>>
It's my birthday, anon. Can my present be another year of comics?
>>
>>165936465
Happy Birthday!
No.
>>
>>165936465

sure

it just won't be Sonic comics
>>
>>165891141
I'm gonna miss that too
>>
>>165873405

shit that accurate.
>>
>>165874012
IDW means we'll get TMNT and Transformers crossovers.

IDW also means DC crossovers like Green Lantern/Star Trek and Batman/TMNT, so expect The Flash/Sonic the Hedgehog.
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>>165937560
>Transformers crossover
>Eggman bots/mechs vs. Transformers

Yes please I'll take 500.
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>>165937560
>Sonic/Star Trek crossover
>>
Hey the Archie subscription page updated. Still no Sonic, but it has new covers!

Seriously, though, what the fuck is going on and or taking so long?
>>
>>165936465
Happy birthday!
Why not read the old ones if you haven't already, it's not like theres a shortage of issues.
>>
I would trade Sally for a permanent Blaze
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Posting this before I leave for work
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>>165938612
Strangely, it hurts a lot less than when the preboot ended
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>>165938726
Well no shit.
We're comoaring the loss of 20 years with the loss of 3.
>>
>>165938612
THE WORLD'S MOST WAY PAST COOL COMIC!!!
>>
>>165938612
10/10
>>
Honestly it looks more like a hiatus at this point than outright cancellation
>>
>>165939331
There was a hiatus last time I checked this thread, is it just done or what
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>>165938726
Well, the pre-reboot lasted a long time, got cut off with a large amount of major unresolved plots, removed a lot of characters that were prominent in the run, and no one fully expected it.

While it will suck to lose new characters if Archie Sonic dies, no one was around long enough to really have that much development nor are there very many unresolved plots. The big loss would be the SatAM characters.
>>
>>165938612
Why would Sonic throw away his shoes and go there barefoot?
>>
>>165939331
That's probably all it is and everyone is just overreacting.

The comic probably will get canceled eventually due to poor sales, but not befire 300
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>>165939331
Archie needs to say something at some point.

I really want to know why this is happening this time.

Someone on /co/ suggested SEGA not allowing the license until the motions to dismiss in the Fulop trial are decided.
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>>165940185
>Archie needs to say something at some point.
"This point"?
Anon, it hasn't even been a week.
>I really want to know why this is happening this time.
We don't wven know WHAT is hapoening.
>Someone on /co/ suggested SEGA not allowing the license until the motions to dismiss in the Fulop trial are decided.
It's all rumors. Everybody needs to calm down.
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I gave up trying to make this look good
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>>165940926
I was going to ask if anybody could make this cover with text on the paper that says "Archie cancels comic series" or something, but this is pretty good too!
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>>165940926
It's so wierd to think that the golden age was only a few issues away from this issue, whose cover has essentially become the laughing stock of the comic.
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>>165941184
I'd say it took a good two years after that before the golden age really started. Took Ian a year and a half or so to clear out most of the garbage.
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>>165941578
I'll agree to that, but the worst of the dark age was already over by the time the "Alone" issue hit shelves. The 250s were bad, but not nighmarishly bad like the earlier 200s.
Shit like Evil Sonic fucking all the mobian girls, the marriage plot, among other concurrent plot lines were bd, but in a humerous way. They were more just stupid than anything and that made them at least funny to laugh at.
The shit before that was just abysmal.
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>>165940913

>Someone on /co/ suggested SEGA not allowing the license until the motions to dismiss in the Fulop trial are decided.

That's my bet and I'm sticking to it.
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>>165941184
To be fair, we had already been climbing out of the dark age for a little bit even before Ian took over.
I'm not saying Penders would have done nearly as well as Ian would have, but his last issues were not quite as bad as some of his worst stuff.
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>>165941903
Didn't he only fuck Bunnie, & that is more meme than fact?
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>>165942061
>Didn't he only fuck Bunnie, & that is more meme than fact?
It's mostly just a meme, but we will never know what really happened.
More than anything it's just funny to think about
>>
>>165942061
Basically.
He also tried to get with amy but i'm sure sonic would have found out if that had happened.
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>>165942061
It's a meme, even for Bunnie, but the implication was there.
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>>165942217
True. You know, I was never the biggest preboot fan (even after Ian took over, the comics did have some shit in it every now & then, although it was far less than Penders), but the comics before 252 had some real cool moments, that I'd like to see the current comics do again, should they continue.

>>165942317
Yeah, it's kinda fucked up Scourge tried to get with a 12 year old
>>
>>165942584
>Yeah, it's kinda fucked up Scourge tried to get with a 12 year old

I think Amy was (biologically-speaking, thanks to magic) a few years older than that pre-reboot.

Still wrong, though.
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>>165942743
Wasn't Amy like a 6 year old in a 15 year old body, or some shit preboot?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bx-JzPetRE

Post your favorite Sonic mashups
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>>165942867
10 yr old that got aged up 5 yrs.
She also wasted a magical mcguffin that could have saved the day in the process.
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>>165942867
They explain in one issue that her mental state eventually matched that of her new physical body

Evil Sonic was 17 going on 18 at the time so it's no big deal
>>
NEW THREAD: >>165942951

>>165942947
>>165942960
God, the shit they did with Amy preboot was so stupid.
>>
Didn't some anons want >>165938612 as the next OP?
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>>165943032
Already done.
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>>165940185
What are the chances they dismiss the lawsuit?
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>>165943962
Depends on what exactly the issue is. Fulop does theoretically have a case in that Archie kept reprinting back issues featuring "his" characters which reset the statue of limitations, but to do that he needs to prove ownership to begin with so it's ultimately the same shit as the Penders lawsuit.
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