/mhg/ - Monster Hunter General

Sorry is this the Animal Crossing general?

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>>165894736
>Isabelle Butt.png

>>165894830
>Isabelle Butt.jpg

>being cucked by OP

>yfw wolfs maw v
>have to kill 2 G Hyper Savage Jho in the arena, on site items only

>>165894918
>No armor

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With the Switch's paid online, do you think small monsters will finally sync to other players and not despawn in seconds?

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PW 7243

>>165895056
>Sync to other players
Hell no.
Less traffic going between players, the better. Regardless how good servers are.

>Not despawn in seconds
Maybe.

>>165895026
wait arena is too easy, forlorn arena

>fight my first astalos
>fun fight monster looks great
>can't wait to see what it's gear is like
>switch axe is element phial
FUCK. YOU.

4u room
turns
41 3005 5409 0058

What's a good early HR bow armor?

>>165895371
Get fucked reload sword boy

So I'm trying to complete out of the frying pan and wrath of rath (playing aerial DBs) but I'm getting absolutely ass blasted by the monsters. I'm fighting in low rank armor:

Rathalos Cap
Rathalos Mail
Ceanataur Braces
Rathalos Faulds
Bnahabra Boots

for Razor Sharp, Weakness Exploit & Attack Up (S) and it has worked nicely for me so far (HR6) but I'm getting hit for so much now in the advanced quests. I ideally wanted to be able to build a silver sol mix as my next general set but I don't think I'll be able to defeat the enemies nevermind farming them. Do I just need to get good or should I try to building an intermediate high rank set (I don't really want to use the resources when I'm building another set right after)? Did you guys have trouble with Deviljho and Gold/Silver Raths? Any tips?

>>165895371
astalos weapons are pretty shit compared to other thunder options

>>165896025
just use adept db's and cheese through the fight if you want hayabusa

>>165896025
Yeah I had a good fucking fight with Gold/Silver
But you push through it and come out better
Keep going until you can see the attack coming before it starts lad

>>165896038
I believe that was the point.

>>165896206
I've never used adept because it seems so weird for the B button to not be a jump button but the land & aerial dodges look so cool haha. I'll try it out I've always wanted to learn both aerial and adept but I was having so much fun with aerial.
>>165896394
alright thanks man

>>165896728
You said you had some trouble with Jho so I suggested adept, adept you can literally just relax while fighting jho

>>165896829
Yeah I'm playing it right now and I can definitely see the potential I am just so bad with it since I'm used to being in the air.

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Gen Turns, anything goes.

>>165897562
Damn it stop listening to him, adept will make you a complete shitter

>>165898854
Haha is adept DBs or adept style in general looked down upon? I'm looking at some youtube vids now and the difference between them and myself is insane. I'm constantly chugging pots and maneuvering mid air so I don't get hit and these guys are just going through gold rathian's tail like it's nothing

>>165899128
Adept evades are automatically Evasion +3 and Evade Dist up essentially, but without needing the armor skills AND they power you up after.

Aerial is also looked down on, but most people shit on adept because "muh ez mode git gud and don't use"

>>165899128
There are some retards that apparently can't adjust between different playstyles so they think playing adept will make you bad forever, just ignore them.

>>165899289
Different anon here, why is aerial looked down on.

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>>165899361
>much more forgiving iframes will make them better at timing their dodges

wow interesting!

>>165899709
In 4 mounting and IG were added, and frenchie shitters would do nothing but spam the IG hop into mountspam.
Plus mounting-spam in general is looked down on as "ez mode" because mounting leads to toppling leads to free damage on the monster.

And people who play aerial have to spam their jumps to get maximum output for their style, and spam is also inherently looked down on.

>>165899948
Mount spamming is "easy mode" but it's shit for times
You should really only use it for metal raths and fatalis

>>165899948
What about guild and striker in general? For DBs the only really good hunter art is Wolf's Maw so I thought it would be natural to focus on adept or aerial but I guess you could use the others as well/the general ones.

is gens online still active at like 4 star bracets and shit?
did village which had a bit too much gathering quests so i burned out fairly fast after finishing it and doing some hub quests
thinking of picking the game up again but if there aint anyone to hunt it wont bother

>>165900231
I mean nobody's gonna complain in game if you're using adept or aerial, so long as your actual play is good.
For DBs, yea, adept is probably best, and with Wolf's Maw, since you attack while evading.
Just don't play like a frenchie shitter and you'll be fine. (as in have coherent armor with actual active skills, bring healing and heal early and often, don't cart more than once or twice, don't just spam aerial moves (unless you are using aerial style), etc)

>>165899842
Hello retard that can't adjust between different playstyles, glad you could make it.

Pellet shot was nerfed in 4U? It feels like I'm shooting out bits of paper compared to 3U.

>>165900505
Alright cool. Also last question, is there an option to perform the special attack function without directly pressing it on the touch screen? In aerial style there is no demon dance in demon mode so X+A performs the sliding attack which is what I want to do in adept mode but the X+A does demon dance now

>>165898518
How come you didn't join the other room instead? You don't like naked bro?

>>165901220
X+A will do a forward spin in adept if you have the archdemon gague filled. Otherwise it'll do Demon Dance in demon mode and normal mode.

>>165899128
Probably more that Adept is largely safe due to its generous window and invulnerability to the entire attack, most monsters don't chain attacks quickly to punish abuse of it like Zinogre.

Adept guarding is a bit different for Lance/GL/CB, the window for it is especially a lot more strict

>>165899709
Aerial is a bit cheesey, it's not overly great or fast.

In a typical /mhg/ room you won't be called out for either.

>>165901220
in the options you can set start/select button as kick/special attack

>>165901283
>demon dance in normal mode
>damage on dodge
who the fuck approved this?

>>165901283
>>165901360
cool, ty guys

>>165901452
.it's a weaker version with fewer hits and less motion value when in normal.
And you can't Demon Dance at all in archdemon.
Also, the damage on dodging has an incredibly small hitbox, like you have to dodge through the monster's main body to hit reliably.

>>165901625
mini demon dance has the benefit of being able to cancel at any time

>>165900745
lol, good way to put it

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Another Mashima Hiro designed gear

Female only?

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>>165903731

>>165903792
Only the sword. Armor is from MH4.

Why always a longsword huh?

>>165904124
Japan will never stop stroking its own cock

>>165904124
Superior nippon memes.

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>>165904124

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>first time hunting Nargacuga in Gen
>Adept Bow

This has to be some sort of joke, it can't be this easy. Who allowed this to happen?

>>165905396
>doing a thing in gen
>adept

wow y so ez

gigginox more like giggisux lol

>>165907507
gigginox
more like


Fuckin' dumbinox

>>165905396
adept bow literally took every disadvantage to using bow and turned it into a massive advantage so yeah no shit

>>165907507
Spotted the dicked cadet

Shit, it's been awhile since i've been on the general, left before XX was announced, at least.

So, anything going on in the community? And are people still mainly playing Gen or have they moved to something else? I've been playing 4U on and off and haven't touched Gen in a while.

>>165908135
I took a break for months, came back to play 4u and MHO again.
I'm getting my shit wrecked my event monkey dick trying to get ready to solo the urgent apex one then going to try and beat the multiplayers equivalent of the masters quest again.
Solo life is hard.
What have you been doing in 4u?

>>165908415
Beating up Elder dragons that i had barely fought before in G-rank.

To be honest, there's still a few Elder dragons i haven't faced yet in 4U, despite having the game for so long. Just built the Kaiser X set because why not.

>>165905396
Nargacuga gets shafted by the soft lock anyway

Since I've only got Hellblade, Dreadking and crowns to complete on my card I've lost interest in Generations. For the time being anyway. And without you know who puting up daily rooms to carry me through those two cancer shits on 4U maps I'm just going to leave it alone until XX.

For now I'm playing through 4U again and getting my arse handed to me by shit like HR black fatty. Adept really killed what little skill I had. 4U is like a whole new game now.

>>165908776
Fatalis is a shitmon, deserves to get the jumpstick up his ass.

>>165908776
Oops. Meant to reply to >>165908415

Still getting used to using overchan.

>>165908776
Sometimes i wish i skipped over Gen and waited for the next game. XX is on its way, but now i'm not even that excited for it.

Gen tried some interesting stuff but imo a lot of it fell flat. Fun enough for me to get my money's worth but i didn't play it half as much as the previous games. Never even finished upgrading a deviant set.
Maybe i'm still on the fence about the direction the franchise is taking, i dunno.

Is Grongigas actually that good or is it just a meme? I thought 3U was Slime City + Kelbi Bow.

>>165908538
rip, good luck some of them are cunts to fight when your learning them. But thats the fun of monster hunter isnt it.
>>165908776
Yeah i refused to used adept for that fact, all i used was guild and mainly striker or what ever its called, got up to hr6 solo lance and thats when i quit.

>>165909172
>290 true raw
>can reach purple with s+1
>more slime than brach hammer with awaken

>>165909172
Poison overall is actually pretty strong as well. Slime is definitely overpowered in high rank.

>>165900240
Not at all. I managed to find a group farming HR3 nakarkos, but any other time I wanted to farm something (narga, tigrex, whatever), there were no rooms whatsoever.

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>>165910767

It's a shame that we don't know if Gravios will return in MHXX or not, because I really want to see what happens when you use a Lv2 Water Pierce LBG on it.

>>165909172
You do realize Groingigas has slime... right?

>>165896025
the only thing I found troubling about the Jho in out of the Frying Pan is that is has nearly twice as much hp as Tigrex and Narga.

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>>165912517
I had more trouble with narga and tigrex on my ass than jhojho. Learnt that the solution to that is just to run around a praying that they are on the opposite side when the fence goes up. Going aerial with pickle is retarded. Look at the thing. It's hitboxes literally scream that they'll swat you out of the sky. Jho did feel like he took a long time due to bouncing green when enraged + that HP and low rank armor but playing consistent will easily get you around 15 minutes for him. Striker lance was what I used (Charge is utter trash against jho. Striker had better pokes than the other styles.) Having jho enraged is pretty important as it nets you dragon breaths and simply strafing right will allow you to run towards him for free dps. Use poison meats if you feel like it. 1 sleep 1 para 3 poison(nets you 2 poisons and poison is one of jho's weaknesses) should net you considerable damage if you sleep bomb him. A thunder weapon is what I went with because they're all weak to it. Lagia lance for me. Pretty much everything oneshot me if it got a clean hit in.

>>165913008
after you kill jho, go to one of the fence buttons as soon as jho's body disappears and narga and tigrex's shadow appears hit the button, it will split narga and trigrex, bring smoke bombs as well and you can cruise through the quest easy, narga will be on the sloped side

i love monster hunter

i love it so much help

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>>165908776
Aerial/Striker/Guild greatsword made me way too aggressive. It's so easy to just go batshit insane due to how fast the attacks can came out and the reliability of absolute dodges. Went back to 4U and holy shit the FPS. It felt way easier than gen though but that's probably because I had some insane sets up against shitmons like g rank rathian/bombs over gog and they flinched like motherfuckers. Apex whooped my ass though and I could feel I was being way more passive than I used to be because I knew I didn't have absolute evades and the "feeling of opportunities" was way too rusty. How ironic.

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>>165913138
The funny thing is. I brought palicos when I did it (casually doing village quests). The little shits instantly died to every attack and ended up drawing narga's dick on me resulting in my only cart. Got two talons though so I now have talon + charms at low rank. Also smoke bombs with lance is painful.

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Where does CB and IG fit on this

>>165913954
If it was 4U IG would be asked by everyone to do the monte thing. CB is I don't know. As a greatsword user I don't even acknowledge their existence for some reason. I guess it would be when a monster is locked down, KO please.

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>>165913954
why do DB's love SnS?

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>>165908135
Played Gen since launch while taking a couple of weeks to recharge here and there. Tried to crown farm to complete my awards because I wanted to do it all in at least one game, but Poogie frowns upon me and I can't take any more of this shit game. Fucked for 4U awards because I lost my o3ds shortly after the game launched and by the time I got my n3ds last march all that were left was faguettes, cheaters, and general shitters. Was surprised there were still some decent randoms to do Gog because I was about to give up and solo him.

>are people still playing gen
Peak hours for me were around midnight to 3pm so that was a contribution to my departure. Also the second I post any elder dragon that isn't Kushala people bail instantly, so you can expect the quality of players online is populated with. But I quit near the beginning of this month after doing the DLC so maybe some of the kiddies who were gifted Gen for Christmas got gud.

>>165909103
> still on the fence about the direction the franchise is taking
You aren't alone on that one. Hunter arts take all the challenge out of it and ever since launch if I even tried to ready a quest using guild style and no arts I was insta-kicked or people left. I went back to 4U and did a solo Black Diablos to see if I still got my groove, and luckily I still do.

Honestly I think xXx is gonna be my last monhun. If it doesn't release here then methinks I'll just retire now. I miss FU and having friends that still gave a shit about the series after P3rd.

>>165899709
It's like Adept in the fact that jumps usually allow you to cheese attacks by being above the monster. Monsters usually don't have high reaching attacks and the most commonly used aerial styles usually have an easily spammed and effective jump attack. When they do have high hitting boxes and strange movement then aerial goes to shit like with glavenus but ignoring that, a combination of invincibility and power is given making it a very easily played style. Don't get me wrong though, there are skilled ways to play it. Sniping head KOs with aerial charge blade is one. However anyone can just ignore the head or the very concept of weakspots and just spam whatever they want and still do pretty good damage along with free mounts. Personally I really don't care about the style unless it's full on easy mode and someone is ranting about how good they are.

what's better against dreadqueen/king, meme set with savage jho DB or CE+2, WE, Thunder +2, Ele Crit with Kirin DB?

Is 4U's charm table just as fucked as 3U's or did they fix it?

>>165915746
fixed

Hunter arts and styles really feel like some sort of incomplete fuck up. I've only used greatsword and lance and I know bow but here is my one word summary on it. Unbalanced. There is amazingly power house easy mode shit like striker lance and aerial greatsword which is boring as hell to play and complete garbage to play styles like adept greatsword, aerial bow, and adept lance. Sure there are inbetweens like guild lance but why run guild lance when striker lance has a solid three poke combo and 70 mv? Why run guild bow (backhop is bad that stamina cost tho) when adept bow exists? They feel like you're gimping yourself on purpose while playing the same "weapon style" by cutting off your own options which is not fun. You argue for more hunter arts options if you choose those styles? Pretty sure I run only absolute readiness and if I can, absolute evade. Maybe a good hunter art instead like enraged guard but those barely exist. Those that do exist usually have some powerful function that overshadows every other opton. Look at greatsword, they're all trash to use normally. Look at bow, only good one is rain, the rest are why. The only reason I use the others is for fun and when I do, it's not fun. Maybe there are plenty of good hunter arts like maybe sns. I don't know. All I know is absolute readiness is pretty much #1 on my hunter art choices or one of the other good ones and given that 2/4 styles only have one slot, I'm sad as I have no real choice and arts now feel like some sort of tacked on shit. I have no topic on gunner because lol inventory managment and lol bowguns never ever. Ultimately I feel like 14 x 4 styles is more like 14 overpowered choices, the rest are meh situational with minor differences. My thoughts are incoherent and are easily refuted. Feel free to do so.

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>successfully denied of carves by a vespoid and spiketail

>>165915746
You now have a random table that is choosen when you boot up either the game or file. Resetting will choose another table. Tables have predetermined charms I believe. I believe this because cheating in cq's in 4U and checking what charms I get from a list of 100 or so each time resulted in me seeing some of the same charms being repeated during one save and a different set charms being repeated during another while seeing none of the charms in the first save I remember.

>>165915746
3U's table system was bugged in that it just set you on one at new game start, whereas the intentional behavior is to load you onto a random table each time you start playing. Which correctly happens with the rest.

No idea why save editors haven't figured out how to put one onto a new table, though.

>>165916212
it wasn't bugged, that was the intentional design and p3rd had it as well

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NENYcdp5IE

キターーーーー(°∀°)ーーーーーーー!!!

>>165916547
goddamn zenith styles look fun

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>>165916489
That's fucking stupid then. I know the odds of running into a cursed table are actually quite low, but still.

But really though, I think anyone would take an alternative without as much bullshit RNG.

>>165916489
That's not true.

>>165916717
even though 3U had bugged as fuck tables, at least you had an option to charm snipe, although that also requires RNG because you needed felyne explorer

>>165916812
>RNG
>Fish+Drink

>>165916931
you aren't always guaranteed explorer though

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>>165916987

>>165916987
wait nvm i'm a fucking retard

>>165915843
Well I'll put an addendum to your post and say for lbg you would generally go adept with mass combiner or full house III, and for hbg adept with gunpowder infusion. Also guild lance and heat gauge turned my dick from outie to innie.

Is it a fair statement to say that internal shots effectively benefit LBG more than HBG?

>>165917293
yes, you don't even to get ammo with Element LBG, the internal are enough

>>165905396
>low rank
>''its easy i must be good xD''

nerf adept ffs. tighter frames, no tremor or roar evades aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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>>165917293
>yfw 50 clip Dazzling S with siege capability in XX

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What's the internal ammo set for LBG? I wanna Nifl up against C. Uragaan.

>>165918140
element, load up, true shot up, bonus shot

>>165917293
What >>165917407 said as hbg mainly have lv.2 shots and you don't get many of those usually. If you're any kind of serious when it comes to gunning with lbg you are gonna be using status shots with combines or you might as well be dead weight to the rest of the group.

>>165918019
Arm Cannon X is fun. Demon S and Armor S are also surprisingly very effective in group play too.

>>165918206
May I ask why Load up? blademasterfag here

>>165918297
You got my post wrong, I'm to blame, I said you don't need to bring ammo because Lv2 Element Pierce is enough for a whole hunt, if it drags on you have to rely on Lv1 if available and worst case scenario on base element shots but honestly it very rarely happens.
>>165918571
2 shots before reloading is not enough.

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>>165918591
Ah, I see.

>>165918571
Do you have barrage earring? If not get on that shit because it's REALLY useful for set mixing and you can even use it... for... gunlance.... Jesus I'm mad at the dev team, I just want to wyvern fire when I want, fuck.

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>>165919026
>>165918591
Yeah yeah, I do. Also, should I use Parasol or Astalos Shocker against Grimclaw Tigrex? or none?

Thank you btw

>>165919365
parasol

>>165919365
Silverwind LBG, CE2, RO, CB, Pierce Up
https://www65.atwiki.jp/mhxtawiki/pages/199.html

How long till we get a real Axe weapon?
Cant even meme with SA anymore, because its cucked by sword mode.

Why can't I redo quests in MHO? I am level 35 on page 9 and it still has not given me an option to yet? I know when I played months ago you could but now it looks like they have taken it out?

>>165918019
I hope 5 keeps internal ammo. It's one of the few good things Gen did.

>>165924510
the VERY few

>>165920275
charge axe, since sword mode is no longer viable

>>165924510
blunt weapon too. and it needs to be buffed to make it the definitive attack skill for shit sharpness weps

>>165920275
There were axes in other weapon classes.
Gyp sns, for example.

>>165924510
>>165924576
>>165924667
Internal ammo (by far the biggest improvement)
Blunt weapon
Hold button to carve
Lavasioth revamp
Meownster Hunters minigame
Prowler Mode, though they better fucking let you aim your boomerang up and down in future titles

>>165925797
Remove Lavasioth
Meownster Hunters change every game, well not it but what it's used to acquire.

>>165925797
But prowler is shite, no?
It's like a normal hunter weapon, but with all fun cut off. Single and not so fun way to play with it

>>165925920
Lavasioth is a good monster in 4th gen, unlike its Unite incarnation and Plesioth.
Meownster Hunters are at their most useful in this game, getting you pale and dash extracts in large quantities, are less obnoxious to use than in 4U, and aren't a simple coin toss like in Unite.

>>165926004
Prowler is shite in the execution, but having playable cats is good: it's more options. Like Blunt, they need fixes, but they're a fine concept.

>>165926413
Rewards are great but the system is going to change, it always does.
Add to that the fishing fix in XX, literally the only good thing they've shown so far.

Why everyone is so retarded in Gen?
I don't remember elder in Pokke being so stupid, for example.
And they did change some npcs names, didn't they?

>>165926584
>felcote

>thunderlord never gets tired since he is always charged up
>still has a pin move

>>165926584
I think the intent was to characterize her as a crochety hillbilly who has no grasp of publicity stunts, since the framing device of Gen is each village is trying to get more visitors, and thus bigger fame and/or business. Village elders have always had a pretty neutral, down-to-business personality, so they gave them each a gimmick to differentiate them. The execution ranges from good (Yukumo chief) to inoffensive (Kokoto chief) to bad (Pokke chief).

Not in Gen itself I don't think, but 4th gen renamed a lot of NPCs to put them in line with current naming conventions. I'm surprised that Treshi and Trenya were left intact.

Does anyone like kirin? Fucking frolicking faggot.

>>165927087
*prances past you*

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>>165927087
I hate hunting Kirin, but only because they're so small and they jump all over the place. Makes them real annoying to actually land damage on.

>>165914621
This. Best hours for playing Gen is 12am onward. But finding a consistent hunting group with armor skills, competence, and is not foreign is the hard part.

>>165925797
>lavashit
>no sns oils

>>165927653
They're a pain in the ass, SnS was nice because it had no upkeep, like Lance and Hammer. Now you have to squint to see if your sword is glowing.
Turn them into a permanent "honing" and they're good.

>>165927904
Or at least give a depleting meter under the sharpness so SnS users can see when it's going to wear off.
I mean, oils are practically part of core SnS gameplay, so might as well add a little UI for it like how Gunlances got a heat meter.

>>165927425
more please

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>>165927425
>>165928034
As you wish.

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>>165928014
make them permanent, you can change them mid-hunt, uses the new animation, works with Reload Speed skill

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>>165928124
>>165928226
>>165928336
>>165928449
>>165928552
>>165928650
cheers

>>165926584
I heard smth about it being translation shit. With translation making everyone brain-dead and memeing game up.

>>165926584
They revised the names for a lot of things that they felt needed a better translation or were artifacts from poor translation in previous titles that they never really looked after.

As for the npc speeches, yeah, they're mostly retarded. It was cute when the sweethearts spoke like dorks in previous games, but when EVERYONE is a walking meme the schtick wears out very quickly.

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Someone posting a tasty slut?

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>>165931381
DELETE THIS

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I prefer my men armored.

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>>165933006

>>165904562
>TFW i always read it as "Monster Hunter Orange"

>>165933006
Me too.
If i have to see my male hunter's ass for 8 hours, it has to be well armored.

>>165933306
Is Silverwind armored enough for you?

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>>165933642
Nargacuga you say?

>>165933098
Can't blame you, much better

>>165933642
I saw the youtube video with all armors in Gen, and i love the new Narga one. I wasn't a fan of the fishnet style, and fucking Chacha got me a mantle from a hunt in 3U.

Is there eva+3 in Gen?

>>165934376
Its called Adept

>>165934780
That's not what I'm asking.

>>165934780
More like evade+20.

new blood question.

i know the gathering hall monsters are stronger than the village ones in general. is there anything more specific we know? as in what exactly their health/damage/etc. is multiplied by?

>>165935325
Kiranico lists the given multipliers per quest, they vary a lot.

>>165935325
there are no multipliers. monster health/damage/etc is manually specified for each quest.

very generally speaking, gathering hall monsters have about 50% more health.
hypers have about 70% more.

you might be thinking that seems low for a 4 player hunt, that's because with the exception of tri, online quests are generally tuned for two players.

>>165935325
google whatever MH you're playing followed by "kiranico" and it'll give you all of the details.

so MHGen kiranico or MH4U kiranico or MH3U kiranico etc.

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>"hey guys, check this out, i can turn invisible!"
>"why are you hitting me? seriously check this out guys!"
>"OW FUCK stop dude i'm trying to show you something"
>"trips"

>>165939850
Hes way to cute to hunt if you really think about it...

>>165939850
kek

>>165939949
so are you

>>165939949
>Hes way to cute
???

>>165939971
Not sure how to handle that honestly....

>>165939949
i'm just amazed how much harder he is in 4th gen compared to gen 2

even HC was a breeze.

>>165940062
......are....you.....sure...you...don't?....?

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>>165939949
>>165939971

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>>165939949

>>165940153
jesus christ was this guy a chipmunk in a past life?

>>165940141
I mean i can try.. just for you

and i was just thinking "it's unusually cancerous over here"

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>>165940468

>>165895371
I don't get how they've gone so long without even attempting to balance switch axe phials

So many nice looking axes cursed without power phials

>>165941886
So many nice axe forms that don't get fucking used too
Why can you even reload these things?

>>165914621
>These are both me

I wanted to like arts/styles, but it's hard for them to feel balanced and not gimmicky. It seems like they're here to stay, at least at this point. The changes should be more subtle, and aerial/adept need serious tweaks.

I'm probably gonna skip XX, and just stick with playing 4U occasionally, unless XX fixes a lot of these problems(not likely). If the next mainline game is good, hopefully i'll be ready for it.

>Ichinose directs FU: flagship is a ninja monster with glowing eyes
>Ichinose directs p3rd: town is not-japan
>Ichinose directs X: particle effects though the roof, anime-esque special moves, most important village is not-japan
Why is Ichinose such an fucking otaku?

Discord when?

>>165944807
2015

>>165944807
normalfag

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I found a los/ian sword in Diablo 3

>>165946073
ok

>>165946073
>los/ian
You should have just used "rath" then
You will carry this error to the grave

>>165947596
Cut him some slack, you can clearly see he's retarded : he plays Diablo 3.

>>165947715
diablo 3 is a decent game nowadays though

>>165950050
So is Deus Ex 2

>>165950050
Still trash tho. Maybe im just salty about the endless powercreep tho

Is the best way to get worn weapons sakura charm farming? Any tales of how long it took you guys?

>>165953381
Yes, and not that long since with a group that knows what to do each quest should only take 5 min or less.

>>165953381
make a hub faggot

>>165954205
I would if I had the reqs done
>>165953525
Good to know, thanks

>>165954419
Give me 5, and I'll make on cunt boy
lemme get off first

>>165954576
Oh I'm not even HR4 yet just going through village atm, I was just curious because of the ice DBs

>>165956634
You want to hunt together with my hr3 alt?
I got full rath and a shitty lance, that's about it.
Why did I import my character?

>>165956945
Not home atm posting from phone, thanks though

Hi, I have a 3ds and I want to start playing monster hunter. Where do I begin?

>>165959124
4u or 3u, X and XX are shit

quenchPICKLE

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>>165959428
>X and XX are shit
XX hasn't even come out yet.

>>165960237
When the only thing that looks good in everything they've shown is the ability to move the bait while fishing you know the game is fucked.

>>165960237
>deviants and arts are the worst thing X has to offer
>XX focuses on them instead of literally anything else

>>165960237
you make it sound like they are adding something...?

What's a goood set for a prowler? I want to finish those quests.

>>165960237
I wonder if the melee cat will be good.

>>165960704
It's 95% gathering, doesn't matter.

>>165960504
That's not true, you can also destroy traps by walking up to them and pressing a

>>165960920
It only bothered faggots until now.

I've come to the conclusion that the 5 kings of destruction cannot be solod without timing out. It just can't be done.

Nice quest Capcom!

X is the entry into the series that's shit, but adds in a lot of quality of life features.

Like Dark Souls 2

So I'm thinking of getting into MH got a couple questions

>Whats the best version to get? I have a hacked 3DS so pretty much any of them are available to me.

>I remember reading a while ago that one of the MonHun games have armor inspired from JoJo is that Japan only?

>>165961398
>lots
>carve while holding a
>that's it

>>165959935
wh-what about the charm tables is bugged?

>>165961398
They are also a good entry point and are not good for getting good.

>>165961646
You're locked into one forever

>>165961297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OORIXWUjHc git gud
>>165961513
Fuck off
>>165961646
You're locked into a single table per save, use Athena's fish finder to find out what table you're on before you fuck yourself.

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>>165962498
>"switch" "axe" isn't something that can't be reloaded so you have to use sword when the monster is vulnerable

>>165961297
Why even say this though?

>>165963506
Switch Axe should work like CB but with the phial burst triggering on morph attacks AND sword attacks, with Morph being stronger, Axe attacks charging the phial and removing Power Phial

>>165961513
See >>165959935 and then see your reply from >>165962498

>>165963741
>Morph being stronger

Nice

>>165963741
HIRE THIS MAN

>>165963741
It worked just fine in previous titles

>>165965398
It was shit and you had no reason to use Axe, in X it's OP because of some art synergy they didn't think through.
It's boring, uninteresting and has no variety.

>>165965486
You had to use the axe now and then at least

Why is gen so incredibly shit and unfun?

>>165899709

Aerial makes people obnoxious trip machines and its a magnet for bad players (Kiritos).

>>165899361

But thats true you retard. Even before adept was a thing, in 4U using Evasion +3 and Dist in conjunction were frowned upon because people get used to the fuckhuge dodge frames and forget how to play the game normally.

The worst part is that its advertised as the style for pros.

>>165965756
>Lack of an endgame besides hunting the same hypers and deviants over and over
>No subspecies that are enjoyable to fight
>literally every weapon's best choice is Hellblade GlaiveAnus
>critmeme set
>bow of shitters and memes

>>165965756
I hope the next game, whenever it comes out, is much better. Gen was definitely a low point and i don't see XX making enough of a difference.

>>165966153
>when blanche outplayed me with e+1 on 140 tigrex

>>165966320
That nigga ain't even gud, has this general been deserted by the handful of skilled players we had in 4u?

>>165887376
/jerma985/v/115601663?t=02h43m32s

>>165962498
If it takes an autismoid like canta 30 minutes to solo what hope it there for us relatively normal people?

Have any Japanese posted solo runs of it yet? I don't know the moonrunes to search for it.

>>165967424
Oh fuck i missed the second stream?
In the first he stopped after the Great Jaggi.

>>165966587
The last good player to be seen here was 2 years ago. He took his GS and left for unknown reasons though sometimes you could find him in insect catching rooms doing challenge quests. All that's left now with Generations is us shitters I'm afraid. Sorry.

>>165895056
>https://www.quora.com/Why-do-female-spotted-hyenas-have-enlarged-clitorides-that-resemble-a-males-penis
>http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/05/animals-myths-hyenas-lions-science/

>>165968058
Well the image does say pseudo penis too

>>165966587
what makes him bad?

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>>165904124
Because longswording things is fun, that's why.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21HLoKBUOdk

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>>165963506
>Why even say this though?

Just ignore it. It's part of a recent shitposting trend where someone claims that doing something is impossible. It just can't be done.

Earliest example I know of was about how Savage Deviljho can't be soloed with LBG with no evasion skills/arts/Adept.

Somehow /mhg/ keeps falling for it, though fortunately this time video evidence was posted right away.

>>165968452
He only ever uses meme sets.

>>165971085
What? He was using a fashion relic set back then.
I expected some info on something he might have done wrong to avoid it but you're full of shit...

>>165970915
Lighten up guy. Name dropping and cringe spamming is shitposting. Claiming something is impossible when it very much is for your average hunter is just a bit of fun.

>>165966153
>you're wrong because of my anecdotal evidence
Kill yourself you fucking troglodyte

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>>165967684
For some reason he streamed super early today, I could only tune in for a sec but he had full jaggi armor. I'm so proud of him

Seeing him encounter Lagiacrus was fucking hilarious

>>165966195
Do you think 4U is good? Just out of curiosity.

>>165971263
Honestly I think people only say he's bad because he's a mute and won't defend himself ever. Easy target for bullying.

How do you guys farm heavy armor spheres? Hyper ludroths or kirin subquest?

>>165973738
Village Elder Dragons but only because they are easy for me to hunt and I have fun doing it. I don't think it's the best way to do it though.

Which Kirin quest has a sub for them? I might try my new SA on it.

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>>165939949

>>165974517
went to forbidden lands and saw a post claiming the hr6 White Brute grants them via subquest.
All you have to do is take a flag that slowly burns your hp from the box in the starting area to the top of area 8 of the artic ridge.
The chances drop from 8% do 5% but it only takes 2-3m in to do.

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>>165961398
For some reason it took away a lot of item set slots, and you can't go to other villages without disconnecting if you're online.

>>165973738
Nakarkos runs. Easy to find and they always come in 2s.

>>165975080

>>165975382
Pacing. Also please consider checking >>165959935

What's the chances of them fixing the bowgun first person scope back to how it was in past games, and letting the monsters again get staggered/statused/killed while in midair, in XX?
Are there any videos of someone using bowguns in the demo?

>>165975382
Game is easy

>>165972591
It was okay, except for the ledges, mounting, and Apex.

At least 4U had expeditions.

>>165976049
>Apex
AGAIN?!

I liked apex
apex 140s were cancer, however

>>165975796
What's wrong with the scope now?

>>165976358
Apex was the single best thing MH has ever done, but newfags didn't think learning how to handle it was necessary and jumped straight to 140 diablos, probably the most "fuck you" fight in the whole series.
Apex is fantastic because when you truly master it the difference between you and someone who hasn't learned how to fight them is even bigger than killing it in 5 minutes.
I do agree Apex Diablos is cancerous and deserve hame, and you can do it since the Element stone works.
>>165976601
It's not the barrel but the hunter's eyes.

>>165974871
Do you need to cycle for this quest? I can't find it.

>>165976926
Why would anyone do 140 Apex Diablos? There's an easier alternative for every skin it gives except the Dear Lutemis, which honestly is inferior to the Elite Blade.

>>165976926
I like the idea of Apex, making monsters stronger and you have to find different ways to attack, but making the player bounce if you don't wait for wystones to recharge was annoying, it just makes the fight a chore.

They should've found another way to make Apex tough.

>>165978110
You don't get it.
Even with Drive you shouldn't hit the bouncing spots.
Ever.

>>165976926
>Apex was the single best thing MH has ever done, but newfags didn't think learning how to handle it was necessary and jumped straight to 140 diablos
What exactly makes you think people base their opinion of Apex off of Diablos and not something like Rajang which was much more popular?
>Apex is fantastic because when you truly master it the difference between you and someone who hasn't learned how to fight them is even bigger than killing it in 5 minutes.
Getting decent AI while your wystone is up isn't really a display of skill.

>>165978324
It's rarely an issue, and you've got two stones, ideally Force and Brace, you have 100% uptime.

>>165896038

Even Astalos LBG? What would you recommend? I got one pretty early from farming with several low HR peeps.

Can you kill an Apex Monster without ever removing the Apex status first?

>>165978110
The bouncing spots are shitzones, stop hitting them even in drive

>>165977225
yeah, its not always up

>>165972453
Found the point where he finds Lagi, dang that was great.

"WHAT'S HE DOING HERE? HE SHOULDN'T BE HERE"

>>165980162
XD

Are HG Eatplugs worth the damage lost that you get from building Hearing +15? I'm so sick of Gold/Silver Raths roaring or any monster in general slowing me down (playing aerial DBs) but I don't know if I could even build a good set with earlpugs that also has stuff like razor sharp or weakness exploit

>>165980394
dreadking + charm

>>165980394
Best thing to do is to make a set of armor just for Raths since they both Windpress and Scream. So just make a set with Windproof Hi and HG Earplugs, and maybe anti-poison.
Or you can mount spam and/or flashbomb spam.
Or hunt with a HH user who has a HH with those songs.
But overall, most monsters don't windpress or scream much, so it shouldn't be much of an issue.

>>165979216
Elegant Parasol is not just a better Thunder LBG, it's probably the most powerful elemental LBG in the game.

>>165980796
every single thread without context.
stop.

>>165980796
>wyvern

b-but

>>165979360
Eventually, yes, but probably not solo. Apex gives a special 80% damage reduction to the monster while it's in the state.

>>165979216
For Thunder LBG, like >>165980850 said, Elegant Parasol is top of the line.
210 Raw, +10 Def, no Deviation, Med Recoil, Above Average Reload, Normal 1-3, Pierce 1-3, Pellet 1-3 (with Pellet 1 rapid).
P.Thunder 2 on internal rapid, with added internal SuperArmor and Tri-Blast shots.

The internal SuperArmor shots make allies immune to knock-down and flinch from other hunters for a time, so if you can get your allies to stand still to shoot them with it (it fires in a short cone in front of you, so 1 shot for all 3) you can rapid Pellet and not worry about knocking them around for a bit.
The P.Thunder 2 on rapid is massive against anything weak to Thunder (essentially 2/3 the monsters in Gen)

>>165980796
''hey guys wanna see my new wyvern??''
''that's a dog, capcom''
''haha no its not!! its my new wyvern''

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>>165980902

>>165980523
>>165980567
Wow I didn't even know about the dreadking set that's perfect. I could get Razor sharp with a max sharpness charm and slotting a wep too. Cool thanks

>>165981379
DK Cap
EX Rath Mail
Rest DK armor
with a Sharpness 5 000 you can get RZ in there and only lose HG to just earplugs

What's your favorite armor skill /mhg/, not necessarily the best armor skill but one you just really like. Mine has to be partbreaker, some major QoL on that.

>>165983865
Bubbly Dance + Crisis
Not that efficient, but man do I like both Mizutsune armor and this combo.
Free Evasion +1 and Atk Up L until you get hit? Sign me on.

>>165983865
Quick Sheathe

>>165984074
>build stonefist armor mostly for memes and cuz it looks slutty on female
>can't stop using it because of Bubble + Crisis
It's such a fun set. It's even not awful DPS if you can maintain bubble.

>>165984358
so when you dodge bubble activates and give you evade + what? then crisis gives you AuL?

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>>165983865

A D R E N A L I N E + 2

It is such addicting and rewarding fun. Once you realize that no attack buff means anything compared to Adrenaline, which is why JP players ban it from time attack, you will start to become truly free.

Except it's much harder to pull off in multiplayer and you risk looking like an idiot in front of everyone

>>165984537
You have to dodge 3 times to activate bubbles but yes.

>>165984678
how long does the bubble effect last for?

>>165984537
Bubbly Dance gives you Bubbleblight after you dodge 3 times without being hit. Bubbleblight stays until you get hit and gives you Evasion +1.
(Mizutsune also apples Bubbleblight, and if you get hit twice by him, or once when you already have your own on, then you get Severe Bubbleblight which makes you unable to attack or use items, you slip and slide around, and every evade is a superman)

Crisis just gives you Atk Up L whenever you have a status ailment (elemental blights, dragonblight, paralysis, poison, sleep, blast, and bubbleblight all count; evenb if you can't make use of the atk up during some of them)

>>165984760
A while. Several minutes, at least. Usually it runs out by getting hit before that. But you can just roll again to reactivate.

>trying to do dual savage jho
>keep having them both enclosed in the one split side of the arena
err, should I like use a flashbomb before I do the button or something?

>>165983865
Speed Eating +2 is a fun one.

The series should have more situational attack-boosting skills like Adrenaline, Challenger, Resuscitate, Resentment, Hot/Coldblooded, etc while maybe nerfing AuX in some capacity (availability?) to encourage their use. More subjective things that could be seen as sidegrades like Evade Extend would be neat as well. Interesting QoL skills like Hero Shield are pretty cool as well.

>>165984074
>>165984358
Definitely a fun combination. I think it would see more use if it weren't for Adept and if Gen being short on gem slots, on top of the CritBoost meta.

Is [Repeat Offender and Crit Boost] worth more than [Elemental, Blight Res and a 5gem skill like Sharpener/Vault]?

For Dual Blades in Gens. Assuming these skills go with Hayabusa and Crit Element already.

>>165983865
Awaken. I wish it came back in Gen.

>>165985328
Awaken was really annoying though because those weapons had to be weaker than normal weapons to be balanced for it, yet your armor skills then suffered to have to awaken them.

But I do kinda remember there being a combo skill that did awaken and elem atk up at the same time or something? THAT would be a good one to bring back.

>>165985306
Yes. Repeat Offender + Super Crit is like a 12% DPS boost.

>>165985472
Arcana, but it was hard to get and generally not worth it.

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Help me with the new statuses mhg. Marms for your trouble.

So if like

Waterblight : nullberry : rolling around a bunch
Mud : cleanser : mash attack buttons
Stun : nothing : circle joystick
Quake: nothing : think about what you've done

Then

Confusion : bitterbug : ???
Bubbles : ??? : ??? (and what changes when double bubbled?)
Blue goo : ??? : rolling in water
Boned: cleanser : ???

>>165985328
Awaken is good in concept but bad in practice

If it was more common, less expensive, or buffed to be actually worth the skill investment on anything but the one or two weapons that get blast out of it, I wouldn't mind seeing it back

>>165985541
>Confusion
Flip 3DS around.
>Bubbles
Get hit by a Lance poke.
>Blue goo
Lament gesture
>Boned
Get kicked from hub

>>165985328
Name 3 non relic weapons worth getting awaken for.

>>165984583
>which is why JP players ban it from time attack
If it's banned why is heroics allowed?

>>165985541
Confusion reverses your movement controls.
Bubbleblight is removed by taking damage, and normal gives you Evasion +1 (so is actually good) but get hit twice with it and you get Severe, which makes you unable to attack or use items, you slip slide around, and every evade will be superman.
The blue one is "Mucus", only Nakarkos so far. If you evade, you become "Ossified" (the bones), if you don't it just falls off after a short time.
Ossified is also Nakarkos only for now, and just works the same as mud or snow covered.

>>165985472
>>165985753
>>165985945
OKAY YOU FUCKS HE SAID FAVORITE NOT WHAT THE BEST WAS JESUS CHRIST
Grongigas x 3

>>165983865
Evade extend
I don't care if I'm a shitter look how fucking far my lance can hop

>>165985945
Stygian Luxuria
Grongigas Hammer
Nero's Calamity
Tremblor's Granboros
Aidion Crown
Rising Tempest
Awaken was worth it in 3U

>>165986382
I said 3 god dammit.

anyone want to hunt?

>>165986660
Is your HR unlocked?

>>165986660
Hunt what?

>>165986775
yes_________

>>165986908
anything

>>165984890
bring smoke bomb and combines, don't get too close to the second savage otherwise he will notice you

>>165985539
Thanks, couldn't decide between Escadora R or Toka considering they're both about equally as badass. Going with Toka.

>>165986024
Can you do any action to mitigate double bubble? Does doing panic dives help get it off any quicker, or should I be running around, mashing attack buttons, what? Same question for confusion, if the situation is just well-what-now, how do I get the status off me as quickly as possible?

>>165985995
It isn't. Adrenaline and heroics are banned not because they're too good, but because those are different categories. Like the difference between an any% and 100% speedrun.

>>165987143
you should at least get escadora r arm and leg piece

>>165987227
Confusion is removed by consuming a bitterbug or taking damage.
Severe Bubbleblight I'm not sure, I usually just wait it out or never get it, but probably Cleanser or taking damage like normal bubbleblight.

>>165986382
Bushido was also decent weapon to awaken for

>>165987325
I watch TAs everyday and I've never seen a single adrenaline run, only heroics and normal. I guess they think it's pussy shit.

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>Najarala still won't drop Chilling Beak
Gore Gizami mix is worth it, right?

>>165987559
pretty sure both adrenaline and heroics are banned because the boost they give is way too big

>>165987559
You don't see them because very few people like to do them. Very little competition and incentive.

>>165987430
No worries, I have both sets crafted.

>>165987559
Both adrenaline (30%) and heroics (35%) are banned from formal TA. Transcendent HR999 Japanese players will record and post the hardest tier possible, so you're absolutely right you never get to see it. Adrenaline is a stepping stone on the way to heroics that is still usable by the quote unquote average skilled player non-german white people, if we're gonna be honest