/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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First for best husbando

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>>165751646

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>Bloodborne counter-hits

how much end and vig for tank build in DS3?

>>165751739
what ng cycle was this?

>>165751773
You don't do tank builds in roll souls 3.

DLC 2 WHEN

>>165751773
just put 30, 30. or 40, 40

>>165751945
tanking is still a thing.

Is dex/faith build a thing?

>>165751739
that's his easiest attack to dodge. you deserve the oneshot

>>165751681
Cute posters must die

>>165752082
buffed sellsword twinblades are a thing.

>>165752082
If you acquire DMB then yes.

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>>165752116
No

>>165751949
When you stop being such a faggot.

>>165751681
>Seath will never crystallize your internal organs with his magic dragon semen
Why live?

DLC 2 when
I want to be free of the curse

>GFS WA has HA from start to end

Since when

I genuinely don't mean this as a shitpost, but how do you play bloodborne without getting nauseous?
I borrowed a friend's ps4 so I could play, but by the time I got to the first boss, the janky framerate was making my head spin. The whole first area felt worse than Blighttown on PS3.

Maybe I'm just not used to console framerates anymore, but man that was one of the worst experiences I've ever had.

>>165752516
maybe his ps is overheating or just fucked up?

>>165752501
GFS?
HA?
Please use words.

>>165751773
No such thing as tanks in Souls. The way armor is doesn't allow for it. Although warding in DeS could get a little silly.

>>165752426
When you stop being such a faggot.

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>>165751586
>havels ring in 1
>added a flat 30 equip load points
>havels ring in 3
>increases maximum equip load by 15%
>changing from flat increase to percentage means that if you want to stay under 30% the ring is almost completely useless
>not like the difference between fast-rolling and mid-rolling matters
>no incentive to risk getting hit harder without getting at least a few more i-frames or a faster rolls
>only noticable difference is the distance of the longer roll
>which 8 times out of 10 isn't even an advantage if you want to punish with a backstab or a rolling attack

You basically have to equip cloth armor with 0 resistances, a light weapon, and NOTHING else, to gain absolutely nothing of value. At least give us a Dark Wood Grain Ring in the second DLC to incentivize some diversity in playstyles instead of "Generic Knight #1781"

>>165752553
>I've never played dark souls 3

>>165752553

Gargoyle Flame Spear. Hyper Armor. What are you? A noob?

>>165751945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIJPGin21D8&t=614s

Tell that to this nerd.

>>165752194
Thank you, my dude.

>>165752216
>rank two needed

My goodness...

>>165752642
>DMB
LB does exactly the same damage(Before Defences) for the price of looking less cool while doing it

>>165752579
It was 50% in 1, you have no idea what you're talking about

>>165752606
I'm playing it right now, but I'm not an acronym spamming cunt. I use full words so everyone knows what I'm saying.
wtfbbqm8

>>165752626
Just not a faggot.

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Guys, what if Gael is the furtive pygmy?

>>165751945
>What are greatshields

As a sorcerer with 60 int, why do I do no fucking damage? I hit for 150's on spells on seath. Do I have shitty rings? (ds1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqP2obLLe0Q

What's the stupidest fucking build you've ever seen?

>>165752738

What a noob.

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>>165752757
here we see the difference in viability of the traditional tank, and the ds3 "tank"

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>>165751739
>Bloodborne counter-hits in cursed & defiled chalice dungeons

Upgraded my lightning spear to a +5 then it turned into a regular spear. WTF?

>>165752542
Could be. Is the first area usually fairly stable 30 normally? It was dipping like crazy for me.

I really want to like BB, but its just unplayable for me at the moment. Might have to wait until PS4s are dirt cheap so I can get my own.

Is it worth get ds3 on steam for the multiplayer aspect? I can just be a pirate but i want to get the full experience. Don't have to much money but what do you think /vg?

>>165752803
Seath is a giant magical crystal dragon. Did you think he'd be weak to magic?

>>165752803
60 is the minimum Int you need for good spells, anon. The soft cap is at 85.

>>165752859
What's the point of this webm? You clearly exposed your back to him

>>165752846
I'm just not autistic i guess.

>>165752803
>Seath
>Magical dragon surrounded by magical guards in the wizard section of the game
Try a different damage type m8

>>165752910
Did you accidentally use the downgrade menu?

>>165752910
DS1? If so then you're a victim of the awful upgrade system.

>>165751739
>see him winding up to the right for a clockwise swing
>dodge to the left
:^)

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Aside from name, this guy looks familiar

>>165753000

That's a frontstab if I ever saw one.

>>165753134
>use stomp in other direction than the guy
>get backstabbed
woooow

>>165753134
ever heard of latency kid?

>>165753134
Then you haven't ever saw one.

>>165753067
Does this mean i lose out on the achievement for collecting all rare weapons?

As a sorcerer, can I ask the internet how to do everything and then still tell my friends that I'm hardcore because I beat Dark Souls?

>>165752964
Games too expensive for what you get out of it. The game is fun, but $60 is a lot when there's much cheaper games with better multiplayer.

>>165753134
Watch the webm in slomo, it's not a frontstab.

>>165753026
What can be done to fix this?

>>165753327
DS3? Yes
DeS, DS1, or DS2? No

>>165752917
No idea, i haven't played it, but i doubt it would be this bad. Try asking /bbg/.

>>165753327
everyone already knows that dark souls is a easy game

>>165753280
The lightning spear isn't a rare weapon, it's just a lightning spear.

How much of a mentally challenged individual does one have to be to send hatemail after winning ?

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>>165753134
>>165753178
>>165753231
>>165753239
>>165753348
it's not a fronstab, but it is an exemplary sidestab.
Good luck doing that with any HA weapon.

>>165753659
You are literally blind.

>>165753368
Re-upgrade and pay more attention in the future i guess

>>165751893

NG+.

>>165753623

You salty bro?

>>165753623
Depends on what you did

>>165753623
You being a faggot doesn't change if you lose

How do you play a squishy caster?

So I've played a Dex sword&board character throughout all Dark Souls games I've played, including Demon's Souls and NEVER tried to play a caster.

Yesterday I made a sorcerer in DS3 for the first time and I'm slowly gravitating towards melee weapons again because of how slow casting appears to be.

What am I doing wrong? Should I also focus on melee?

Can anyone on PC help me kill seath?

>>165753747
I'm just wondering how sad his life is if he rages even while winning.

>>165753752
Just played regularly.
The guy spammed running R1s, throwing knives, dung piles, and obviously the famous point down, kek.

>>165753874
ds3 is the worst game for casters

>>165753730
Will it even let me upgrade it again? its just a +5 spear now

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>>165752741
This would be the coolest thing ever. Like Caine being that taxi driver in VTMB.

>>165753927
Nigga he isn't hard
if you are using a magic weapon just switch to crystal halberd or something

>>165754042
>implying that wasn't a malk pretending to be caine

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>>165753723
hmm is that so
thanks fromsoft

>>165754007
Fuck.

Any reason? I was also thinking of trying a hex character in DS2. Would that work better?

>>165754092
Ive tried for hours man, no luck

>>165753874
Casting is ass in III. You can get a Sage ring for faster casts, but you'll just start using things like MGS or Friede's because of how shit spells are..

>>165754124
quite a lot better
a hexer can do anything and does viable damage from the start without needing fucking rings

>>165754037
ascend weapons in the same window you downgraded in
>>165754112
literally behind you
>>165754160
what's your sl

>>165754124
hexes in ds2 are really good, and sorcery is probably at its best in ds1. casters in 3 need a bunch of rings, including a +2 ring, to do decent damage and cast quickly, and they don't get many of their good spells until far too late in the game unless you go with pyromancy.

>>165753874
your caster simply shouldn't be squishy
grab sage ring, grab flashsword, hidden body, great and great heavy soul arrows, that's your bread and butter for the entire game
if you use them all correctly you will be virtually invincible in pve

>>165754092
>Crystal halberd on a sorcerer

>>165754234
>they don't get many of their good spells until far too late in the game
you get all the best sorceries an hour into the game
after two hours you also would have MLGS

>>165753989
>being this salty

I bet your played regulary means being a passive faggot, staggered hits spam or parry fishing

>>165754290
>or something
literally any weapon that isn't split magic damage
he can upgrade the longsword if he has stats for it

>>165754112
Remember that you and your opponent do not always see each other exactly the same way on each others screens.

>>165754124
>trying a hex character in DS2
You will be fine if you don't fall asleep from casting dark orbs for the entirety of a game.

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>>165753134
>>165753659

>people still not understanding how front- and sidestabs work

>>165754124
Yes.

>Go to Heide
>Kill Dragonrider
>Get Licia to Majula
>Talk to Licia in Majula to get to hexerfag
>Buy all of his dark magic
>Go into the well ASAP to get a Dark stone
>Use a dark longsword with dark weapon and spam dark orbs

>>165754469
Why the fuck did they go from DaS2 backstabs back to this?

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Beside a Raw Astora Straight Sword, what are good weapons to use DMB with on a low Dex/Strenght character?

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am i a bad person for giving logan's big hat a sorcery-boosting bonus of crown of dusk
i just hate how that faggy crown looks

>>165754351
I guess you're right, I was mostly thinking of miracles and forgot how early you can do oceiros.

>>165754364
>I bet your played regulary means being a passive faggot
You lost your bet. Playing passively is the most boring way to play. I'm not the one who was sprinting around trying to attack only on my opponent's recovery frames.

>>165753623
Kek, I -member a guy that used to bully me in vanilla DS2 last year. He kept ganking me throughout the game and inviting me in groups with names such as "git gud scrub" everytime he killed me.

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>>165754469
>>165754543
why are backstabs even still in the game

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>>165754112

>>165754543
because ds2 backstab system was terrible, virtually the worst implementation of backstabs in series
and they never bothered to balance jester top

>>165754628
>inviting me to groups*

>>165754543
Because of the community's incessant bitching and insistence on ignoring the things DS2 did right. At the very least backstabbing is better in 3 than 1 but a lot of fights still devolve into the hornet ring crit fishing that made DS1 so stale.

>every katana/hexer/just general faggot i've ever met was in "good fight" group
>never got an invite myself or seen any actually good players in it
uhh

>>165754628
I really don't understand this kind of people, they're usually meta shitters reactive faggots

>I killed him !
>Better send him a group invite to tell him he's a noob lol

>>165754224
98

Did any of you guys have to port forward to get NAT3 on PS4? I've tried everything I can think of, and it still won't work. After spending 1600 hours in Dark Souls1 PvP, I'd love to play with Bloodborne's and Dark Souls 3's, but NAT3 makes me disconnect constantly.

How significant is the armor reduction for not wearing a piece in every slot?

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>>165754543
let me tell you about das2 backstabs

>>165754772
How can you be 98 on seath? Ng+?
also EU?

>>165752831
I dont think meme cosplays and joke builds really count as stupid builds. They werent intended to be viable just novel/funny. Serious poison builds and people who try to make daggers meta are pretty terrible though. Also dragonbros who use anything but hypermode greatbow from across the map.

>>165754769
I actually find it amusing.

>>165754857
Yeah but NA actually. Im just a shitter and cant beat this guy. If youre on steam wanna help?

>>165754587
Corvian greatknife might work, but there's literally nothing better for low str/dex than raw ass

>>165754987
I'd have about 500 ping to NA so that's a no. Hopefully someone else can help

>>165754587
If you're willing to use lightning weapon over dmb, dragonslayers axe works wonders aside from the shit range and higher than average startup frames

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>>165754706
>because ds2 backstab system was terrible, virtually the worst implementation of backstabs in series
Care to elaborate more on this my friend?
>and they never bothered to balance jester top
You forgot the biggest downside of jester top: you look like a literal clown wearing it.

>>165754124
All casting is good in DaS2. Hexes has the side benefit of (A) giving you decent proficiency in Miracles and Sorcery, and (B) putting you at the soft cap for Pyromancy so that you can specialize in that too.

The only real drawback is that you need to burn Ascetics for several of the rings, and for Sorcery you need to fight Freja three times.

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there seems to be a lot of arbitrary rules regarding DS3 pvp.

"passive fag!"
"homing soul scum!"
"hornet ring!"
"REEEEEEEEE!"

How should I be pvping?
or are these rules just a face-saving mechanism for faggots that thinks they're a god of pvp yet get rekt constantly.

>>165755427
I believe everything is fair game. aside from poor latency and obvious hacks/cheats.

>>165754987
Just use the free enchated falchion or infuse some other weapon, no way you don't have mats in ng+
Unless you are having trouble with the boss himself and not your damage, then you need to acquite proficiency

>>165755427

Everyone cries muh passivity yet everybody does it because that is how you're supposed to play Souls. Everything else is just butthurt from getting owned.

>>165755427
Hornet Ring is actually kinda gay because it adds too much damage doing the same thing. I don't mind people using it, though.

>>165755363
>Care to elaborate more on this my friend?
Backstab system in DS2 serves virtually no purpose. In DS1 entire metagame revolves around BS game, in DS3 it's a very usable parry punisher. In DS2 thanks to retarded back punch animation that never connected 70% of the time in virtually any situation i would just prefer to not have backstab enabled at all and just do simple R1s in the back, given the chance.

Is arena 2v2 and 3v3 really dead
I found only one match today

>>165755427
IMO complaints about the hornet ring are legitimate, that thing is broken and should not have returned.

>invade after pontiff
>find some naked headless invader
>invincible Havel cosplayer
>aggro'd pontiff, giants, and silver knights all in the courtyard bit trying to kill the Havel
>wat

I wish I got a screenshot

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>>165755782
>queue for brawl
>lmao everyone runs with the fastest weapons and kill steals

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>>165755427
listening community is the last thing you should ever do
play as you want and have fun
i love hornet and i love hornet animations

>>165755887
kills should go to a person who did the most damage to the target

>>165755887
>tfw I can't even find brawls

>>165756072
level?

>>165756014
>Do 51% damage to a player
>You get the kill if they die no matter what

That seems worse.

>>165756120
180, also tried on 150

Even on a lower one I can't find anything but duels
Do we know how arena matchmaking works or is it still a mystery ?

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>>165755427
Being passive is obnoxious, but I can't fault people for using the best obvious strategy. Never heard anyone complain about homing soul mass. Hornet ring is obnoxious because it's usually attached to someone who whiffs 90% of their parries, but manages to get one through luck and one shot you. I don't mind it on people who can consistently land parries, though.

Don't listen to what people say is cancer or not. Everything is cancer, just play what you find fun.

>>165756014
>>165756185
You should get points based on damage dealt, with a small bonus for claiming the kill so that matches don't turn into poison-fests.

>>165756216
>180, also tried on 150
AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

nobody goes past 120

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>>165755427
>"passive fag!"
If you have the faster weapon, take the initiative. Don't stand 2 paces beyond your enemies reach and spam low damage attacks in-between theirs.
>"homing soul scum!"
Don't stand 20 paces beyond your enemies reach and spam low or high damage attacks in-between theirs. Don't turn it into cat and mouse either.
>"hornet ring!"
These guys are fucking idiots, ignore them.

what level for NG aldritch invasions?

Is this exile greatsword a good weapon?

At this point i'm starting to believe that lorian ugs is the best UGS in the game.
It needs like 27STR alone to reach 700 split damage ar which roughly translates in similar damage output to most quality UGS

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Is there anyway i can make the controller vibrate when im summoned in DaS3? It used to be so easy to whack sign down and alt+tab and just tab back in when the controller vibrates in DaS2, now i have to keep guessing in DaS3 and im not very good at it, most of the time im being returned when i tab back in

>>165756279
>nobody goes past 120
120 is too limited in my opinion, 150 is fine.

>>165756736
it is, best thing is it applies fire on the first step of the WA, so even if you run low on FP you can get the bonus dmg

>>165756853
I don't think so, but that function was GOAT in DaS2. Made co-oping on single monitor so much easier.

>>165756853
>Is there anyway i can make the controller vibrate when im summoned in DaS3?

AFAIK no, I think that went out the window along with the "your summon sign has disappeared" message. I really miss that shit, it was nice to be able to browse the internet while I was waiting for a summon.

>>165756870
There were those who shared the same opinion

They play on 120 now

>>165757356
>There were those who shared the same opinion
>They play on 120 now
There is literally nothing wrong with SL150
In fact...

Meta is fucking cancer.

>>165756870
just go 200 and fight japs

>>165755427
Hornet Ring is perfectly fine and the ones that cry about it are shitters who can't take being BS punished for parry spamming, or parried for playing really predictable.

>>165757434
>Meta is fucking cancer.

Yes, but doesn't it only get more cancerous as you get to higher levels and everyone turns into a statblob?

>>165752579
Dark souls 2 and 3 have 70% fat rolling thresholds and 4 ring slots, so the actual comparison is:
>Dark Souls 1: 25% more weight (Havel's) at rolling threshold
>Dark Souls 2: 15.25% More Weight (Royal Soldier + Third Dragon) at rolling threshold
>Dark Souls 3: 14.9% more weight at rolling threshold

>>165757807
>Yes, but doesn't it only get more cancerous as you get to higher levels and everyone turns into a statblob
No. Having limits is gay.

>>165757849
Japanese meta is always 20-40 levels above Western meta and it is the epitome of no variety
>limits is gay
Different builds having different limitations is what causes build variety.

>>165757849
>not wanting to specialize
>everyone gets everything
boring as fuck

>>165757672
That's awfully simplistic, one may as well go the other way and say that the hornet ring is only for people who can't make use of their weapon's moveset. It's one thing to get parried and eat a lot of damage, entirely another to get parried and die because you made a single mistake, especially if it's against some caestus parry spammer who's been losing for 95% of the fight. Even if you don't get parried you often have to play around the hornet ring by using ultra weapons or kicking all the time, which sucks the fun straight out of the game.

>>165752606
I have hundreds of hours in DaS3, and I still have to think about what GFS means.

>>165757434
>There is literally nothing wrong with SL150

Absolutely everyone being buffed quality with great heals is wrong

WHAT THE FUCK GUYS I'M FUCKING ADDICTED HELP ME STOP

I GOT LOTS OF GAMES TO PLAY GOD DAMMIT I HAVEN'T STARTED EVEN HITMAN™

>>165758024
FUck off, I don't care about le epic builds. I jsut want crazy and fun pvp, and no, peopel use whatever the fuck they want in high level pvp, not the same shitty weapon.

>>165758038
Everyone gets to do whatever they fuck they want. It's a real challenge when you fight a guy with a shitload of attunements, or a huge weapon in each slot and a shitload of health.

>>165758104
I don't see how.

>>165756014
>>165756185
>>165755887
It should go to the person who did the most damage relative to took the least damage.

But kill stealing has been a staple of From Soft multiplayer games since 2006. Not going to change any time soon.

>>165758136
>high level pvp, not the same shitty weapon
There are a lot fewer weapons in high level pvp. Look at the weapons you see used in the western meta and compare that to the Japanese meta.
High level PvP is not the fun and crazy experience you think it is.

>>165758318
>It should go to the person who did the most damage relative to took the least damage.

Which would continue to reward the exact same hit-and-run tactics.

>>165758346
>High level PvP is not the fun and crazy experience you think it is.
It's the only PvP I do, and I think it is.
Americans are just retarded.

>>165758134
>playing anything other than FromSoft

You either love all their games and only play them, or you play each souls game once and move on to a new franchise. There is no middle ground.

>>165758049
>Even if you don't get parried you often have to play around the hornet ring by using ultra weapons or kicking all the time

I'm sorry but this shows that you're not a good player, ultra weapons are the weapons most susceptible to the hornet ring as they're extremely easy to backstab. When you see someone parry spamming just go around them and backstab them, it works every time with any weapon. Parries are extremely hard to land on good players and so they have to be amply rewarded. Check the tourneys, like one parry max on each, if parries and hornet ring were so good everyone would run a straight sword caestus build with pocket Yhorms or something like that yet we never saw that on a tourney despite having no rules against it.

Backstabs and parries enhance the usage of the weapon's moveset, by adding punishment for bad moves.

Plus some weapons do absolute shit damage on crits without hornet ring

Give me one good reason to level past sl80

>>165758463
Pure casters
Any decent Hybrid

>>165758134
You will still be playing from games even when you are hating them.

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>>165758423
>do high level PvP
>connect to japs all the time
>japs have no build variety
>americans are the problem

>>165758524
I'm pure dex.

>>165758556
Why do you need build variety anyway? At a high level you can wear and use whatever you want, it's great.
Feels like gods duking it out.

Plus as you level you scale with the NG+s of the game too, so things don't just 1 shot you constantly if you get hit.

>>165758346
Not him
I got to see a hell lot more of variety at high SL, it was past 250 iirc. People were using what they wanted to use, not a weapon their favorite youtuber told them to use.

Also
>everyone gets everything
It's not necessarly a bad thing. People say they love PvP because a real player is unpredictable, well high SL PvP is more than unpredictable, in a good way.

Meta is fucking cancer. I stopped playing at 120 because 4 out of 5 people that I invaded were cheaters. The people who invaded me were also cheaters. All I was seeing was CCS and weapons buffed with DMB.

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>>165758585
Then there's the possible spurt to 100 for more Vig/End(If you were STR its for Vit mostly)
No reason to go past that
Just do what you feel comfortable with dude

>>165758387
Except you could stack defense and trade damage with other players, since you always can trade blows instead of rolling, and if you try to hit-and-run you will always do less and take more by being lightweight.

It wouldn't discourage hit-and-run, but it would offer punishment options.

>>165758770
Hmm... I was thinking of respeccing and moving points from vigor to endurance, but if I get another 20 levels, I could just pump up endurance...

What level can I sunbro for the most endgame bosses before NG+?

I really enjoy fighting a hard boss, and then doing it in co-op for jolly co-operation and fun.

>>165755427
>or are these rules just a face-saving mechanism for faggots that thinks they're a god of pvp yet get rekt constantly.

Yes, a lot of that comes from the Soulbrandt streaming community. They'll cry if you use effective tactics against them because they never learnt how to counter shit. This mentality is very deep in the entire PvP community, we'll probably never get rid of it. So say thank you to Soulbrandt.

>>165758443
>I'm sorry but this shows that you're not a good player

I'm sorry but that's a copout and you're full of shit.

I can beat 95% of invaders, I just don't have fun with it since everyone who comes into my game has a parry tool (and almost certainly a hornet ring to go with it) so every fight plays out the same because I'm always playing around the same gear.

>Parries are extremely hard to land on good players and so they have to be amply rewarded.

They already are, that's why the hornet ring is superfluous.

>>165758920
80-120 has mostly equal traffic, Twin Princes/Champ/Nameless for best results

>>165758939
>Soulbrandt
What is this

Is there a reason why the post ds1 development team took one of the few DS1 covenants that actually worked 100% (forest hunter) and hid it behind a pair of optional areas that are locked behind a hidden door that needs a consumable item to open?

the ds2/3 team seems to just hate covenants in general and works to make them disappointing in lots of minor and major ways that could obviously be fixed, is this an order from namco, a natural part of japanese culture I'm not privy too or are they just idiots they do things at random without thinking?

>>165758773
>you could stack defense and trade damage with other players

And then someone else could run in and bait an attack and roll through it and hit you and run away before you can do anything.

>>165759243
>Soulbrandt

You may be referring to:

- (probably) the best NA DS2 PvPer, who hangs and fucks with japs
- an elite group of (former) DS players consisting of names such as Peeve, oroboro, yukasbannhim, etc

>>165759308
Or shoot you with a crossbow. I usually bring a crossbow along for invasions and if someone has a UGS and doesn't switch to another weapon they're 100% free

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>>165759468
>elite

>>165759165
>I can beat 95% of invaders,
>invaders

I thought we were talking about top tier duels. Invaders are all garbage, and they're forced to carry hornet ring builds so they can one shot phantoms, otherwise the phantoms chug and chug and chug and never go down.

In top tier duels parries are not reliable and generally not used, like I said in tourneys there's almost no parries at all.

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>>165759580
forgot to put the ''''quotations''''

my b, b

>>165759468
Thanks babe

>>165759179
>Champ

Who?

>>165758645
>you can wear and use whatever you want
>Why do you need build variety anyway?

Do you realize that you just contradicted yourself in the very next sentence you wrote?

Or do you just not understand what the phrase "build variety" means?

if u complain about ds1/3 backstabs being unfair you're a trash garbage person

ds 2 backstabs were so fucking shitty and bad for pve, and in pvp they actually were worse than attack normally because the shitty wind up was so easy to roll from that a real attack could hit at times where the backstab won't

if you care enough about online pvp to get annoyed when you get backstabbed from weird angles, but not enough to either learn/accept how sidestabbing works or to realize that you shouldn't take a game with such bad netcode seriously you are the textbook definition of a scrub, a shitter with some skill that tries to get people to adapt to his gay code of honor/balance instead of playing to win

backstabbing was never the issue in ds1, the terrible client side netcode they wont get rid of was

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>finally start up DaS3 again
>want to switch to another weapon but everything has either a terrible moveset or damage compared to my +10 refined darksword and my +10 refined astora greatsword

seriously does anything compare to these? all I have left to do is archdragon peak and the rest of lothric after dragonslayer armor

>>165759781
I agree with most of this, but I don't think Dark Souls 1 instant backstabbing was fine. A short animation like Dark Souls 3's is the best, instant was way too good I think.

Dark Souls 2 way of handling backstabs was the absolute worst, another problem it had was that some weapons did absolute pitiful crit damage, to the point where two r1s were indeed better. In fact I'd prefer to get rid of them altogether like in Bloodborne instead of having this stupid system back.

>>165759743
Champion Gundyr

>>165760021

Anri's sword is good. It's like Dark Sword but it has better moveset and more damage.

>>165760021

There's tons of good weapons like half of greatswords, spears, some hammers and rapiers.

>>165760021

Astora's UGS has trash damage my dude.

You're a fuccboi for using a Darksword though.

>>165760190
Is it buffable?

>>165760021
Choose your own difficulty. Pick a shitty weapon to make your game harder!

Thanks memehacksucky

>>165760329

Yes, Carthus rouge is the best buff for it.

>>165760190
I would have to change to a luck build though

I want to stay quality

Guys, if I respec my DaS1 character with CE without boosting any stats (i.e., well, respeccing), can I get banned? Also, I don't want to do any online stuff, should I even care?

>>165760249
Astora's 2hand r2s chain knock down npc invaders and other annoying humanoid enemies though, its what I use it for, and it appears to be the lightest weapon that can do that.

>>165760395
Sweet

>>165760562
just play offline if you are so worried.

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Greetings from Reddit!

>>165760562
DaS1 has no anticheat at all. Nothing you do can get you banned.

>>165760713
I guess, yeah. But how, oh how, will I cope with losing the ability to find 348 messages about no-existing illusory walls?

>>165760562

You can't even get banned in that game.

>>165760562
No, you won't get banned.

>>165760343
I dont want to gimp myself.

I just want weapons that more fun to use.

>>165760783
>>165760804
>>165760827
Oh, cool, thanks.

>>165760767
SO DEEP WOW

>>165759781
>>165760027
ds1 backstabs are the best from a pve perspective, the instant animation and the iframes make it a rewarding option to take down crowds with the risk/timing needed to get behind them in the first place

in practice it's a little too easy to circle strafe most enemies and gank them, but the core idea is a very solid mechanic. ds2 and 3 try to address the complaints of shitters that took the tacked on online way too seriously and thus they have to alter PVE mechanics for the worse because they're incompetent.

backstabbing someone in 2/3 only to take a big ass greatbow to the back and take a ton of damage is really lame and feels shitty.

>>165759629
>Invaders are all garbage, and they're forced to carry hornet ring builds so they can one shot phantoms

That's bullshit. The overwhelming majority of invaders are cheesy fucks and they'd use the hornet ring even if DS3's online functionality was a carbon copy of DS1, the only thing that would change would be that ringswapping is no longer necessary.

>In top tier duels parries are not reliable and generally not used

Then certainly those people wouldn't mind if the hornet ring was removed.

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>>165760767
so...like this asshole?
fuck this boss

>>165751646
I don't understand the love for this guy. Didn't he mutate and wreck everything with the Profaned Flame thing or am I misunderstanding?

>>165760767
That sounds terrible, if you're going to do a doppelganger then do a doppelganger and if you're going to do Birkin then do Birkin.

>>165760767
>TheCancerousDrake

wow i didnt know the resident nazi host was a redditor kek

>>165761317
Yeah


and he had no reason to

he's amazing

>>165761317
He's what /v/ loves most, a giant dick.

Question:

In Irithyll, there's a locked door near the Pontiff boss room (around the area where you find the Ring of the Sun's Firstborn).

I've googled but every result is about the other locked there, where there is a trapped Evangelist. What the hell is this door and where does it lead? It's probably a shortcut somewhere but I need to know.

>>165760767

>theCancerousDrake

Post with trip please so I can filter you.

>want to experiment with all the weapons in DS3
>getting slabs is a pain in the ass
>can only respec 5 times in each journey

it's like this game doesn't want you to have fun

>>165761716
>Start at central Irithyll
>Get past dual fire witches
>Go to balcony area where crystal lizard was (left just after dual witches if you haven't seen it yet)
>Hit the railings on the right of the balcony
>Secret stairs

And you'll be able to take it from there.

>>165761049
I have never been able to beat this fucker without a cloaking system

>>165760157
wat, he's endgame boss?

I killed him at 51 to get my katana.

>>165761895
No, no, that's the one that leads to the Evangelist. I'm talking about the other locked door. It's near the Church of Yorshka bonfire.

>>165761834
The slabs are generous in this game.

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>>165760767
That's a very common concept in other games where you fight a rival character numerous times over the course of the game, and he gets stronger as you do.

That's also how the Pursuer really should have worked in DaS2, make it actually pursue you instead of appearing three or four times outside of Lost Bastille and leaving it at that.

>the Pursuer will never block your way across the mechanical bridge at Huntsman's Copse, two-handing that halberd in his backpack
>the Pursuer will never stand on a central platform in the Gutter while sniping you with a greatbow, forcing you to dodge as you explore and find your way to him to take him on
>the Pursuer will never orbit around Drangleic Castle on his bird, plinking at you with a crossbow whenever you go to the outside areas, and then fighting you in the Twin Dragonrider room with a huge twinblade
>the Pursuer will never chase you throughout the Shaded Woods with a greathammer that can knock down the trees, where you can only tell where he is by the glow of his visor
>you will never down the Pursuer's Bird at Dragon Aerie, and then duel him one final time on the rope bridge

Is 4 kings an easy fight for a sorcerer?

>>165762110
Woops, looks like I misread your post. If it's the door that I'm thinking of then it's a shortcut to the staircase with the dogs and magicfags.

Are you talking about the door that's directly across from the staircase that initially leads you to the church of Yorshka?

>>165762131
why are ds2 fags so fucking edgy

>invade looking glass knight
>chase the host who just rolls around spamming magic for about a minute
>meanwhile SotFS summon with infinite health just soloes the boss
"sotfs only improved the base game" - retarded people

what's the theoretical meta at max level?

>>165762131
Some of this would have probably been too hard on the Souls engine, but simply having Pursuer appear through the game with a different weapon each time would have been great.

>>165762669
Longswords, since at a perfectly level playing field with every option open the moveset will be what counts.

Why can't i enchant my tin crystal catalyst?

>>165762438
Why are you using the word "edgy" without knowing what it means?

>>165762131
>>165762704
if nothing else it would make pursuer less of a total snore

so goddamn easy to parry and then you just whail on him as he stands there shocked that the devs let you parry his attacks for some reason

>>165762131
>he only fought the pursuer at lost bastille

Pursuer shows up in Drangleic Castle, Iron Keep, and Things Betwixt, also.

>>165751586
Anyone wanna help me with Vertebra Shackles on PC? I can give you whatever you want in return, as long as its droppable.

>>165762834
>Iron keep
Hold up, are you serious?

>>165762834
It's still the same shit boss where you just roll to his left or parry him
two of them in Drangleic is not much better

>>165762587
Benhart was available for the LGK in the vanilla game.

>>165762924
How many you need?

>>165762994
30.
Add 'Thermocrius' on steam if you're interested

>>165762983
And? Benhart's health is way lower than ashen knight's and he can actually die even without player enemies, while most sotfs summons can solo every boss they are available for.

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AYO HOL UP

Is 4 kings an easy fight for a sorcerer?

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>>165763068
>add me
>when you can just use password in game
>not farming shackles from pontiff duels or invasions
wow

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Whoever thought parryable bosses is a good idea needs to be sacked.

>>165763165
WE

>>165763178
Everything is easy if you use dark bead at point blank

>>165762924
Just farm them the fun way by invading at carthus and force spam people off of ledges or be a rope bridge troll.

>>165763291

It makes sense for human-like characters like Lady Maria or Gehrman, but big guys like Champ and Sulyvahn shouldn't be parriable indeed.

>invage looking glass with white ring
>backstab the host
i fucking love new players

>>165763230
>>165763068
>>165762994
Easier to communicate. I'm not getting many invasions.

>>165763291
>sellshit memeblades
>hollow

you better have pocket wardenblades

New Fromsoft game when? I'm sick and tired of Dark Souls as a series.

>>165763291
I actually love how Soul of Cinder can turn the tables on you.

>>165763178
4kings is easy as any build assuming your DPS is high enough that you can take them down before a lot all spawn in

if your damage is low or you just take a while fighting them for whatever reason it gets hard

>>165763125
>And?

And I'm fairly certain he didn't catch a buff and I can't find anything in Fextralife or Wikidot that says that he did. If you're privy to such information I'd like to see where you got it.

>>165760767
He stole my 35 phases boss idea!

>>165763416
I'm on NG+. People don't tend to be that bad.

>>165762927
If you go back into the smelter room after you beat it, he's there

>>165762927
Smelter demon room after you beat the boss.

The Iron Keep and Castle encounters are also stronger than the others.

>>165763609
Are you stupid or something? Benhart is fine, he's helpful but not overpowered. Every single summon added in SotFS is basically there to carry new players because they have around 5k health.

>>165762130
what do you mean?

Also how well does Washing Pole with resin compare to Chaos blade?

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>>165763719
Either you misread my post or you don't have anything to back up your claims and you're trying to move this conversation in a different direction Lucifer-style.

>>165759281
Bellbongers are the best covenant.

Played DaS2:SotFS for the first time and liked it unironically.

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Is there any particular reason why From Software hates blonde hair so much?

>>165763916
Who are you even talking about? Who catched a buff? Are you retarded?
Please answer in order instead of posting reddit tier pictures.

>>165763997
japs are jealous of superior nordic genes

>>165763540
What?

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>>165761317
He wants to reset the world just like a painted world would be reset. The first flame needs to die.
The world became shit, the flame needs to be linked every 100 years or so, it needs a global reset.
Sillyman is our guy.

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I'm so bored of my quality claymore build, I need something else but I have no clue what to do.

/dsg/ guide me please

>>165764178
SoC can parry you when he's in his curved sword form. It's pretty rare, though.

>>165764198
>this world sucks so let's destroy it
insert edgy red sonic picture here

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is this viable at all or is it just a meme set?

>>165764275
Pyro
Hollow
Just use different quality weapons, the world is yours
Sorcery
>hybrids
Or just copy the character and then level up the second one until 250 or something dumb

>>165763997
didn't even try/10

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>>165764364
WAIT I CAN JUST COPY MY CHARACTER FILE?

Wouldn't this get me banned?

>>165763178
Ignore equip load. apply full havels. buff your weapon with fire or your strongest buff spell. Hug each king like glue and swing away. Only back off when they rev up that AOE burst. Kings are now easy at any build or level.

>>165763920
Shut up and enter my NG+7 Primal Knight funhouse so I can get more rat tails.

>>165764051
>Who are you even talking about?

Benhart, admittedly because I had a brainfart and forgot that he wasn't the only summon at LGK. That said, I'd still like to see if you have anything to back up your claim as there's little to no data about this on the wikis.

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>>165764382

The default face already looks pretty good, it just needs facial tweaking and skin tone alterations. I'm more irritated by the filters that don't match what the character planner says

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>sacred oath costs 4 spell slots
is it worth it?

>>165764303
Ages after Ages of Dark are Ages of Gods or whatever it's called, but Gods aren't here anymore, why would we keep going ? The last trapGod has been eaten, and Gwynevere is nowhere to be found. Better to let the flame die

>>165764437
Nah I do all the time, just open CE, load your character, change the save number to 1 number or higher or whatever isn't being used and you're done, change name if you want.

Change class if you want for added fun and minmaxing to whatever you want. I wouldn't go further than this, but you can always spawn items and whatnot.
Make sure to make a backup of your savefile just in case.

>>165763997
Hair colors were perfectly fine in DaS2, you could go any color of the rainbow with no problems.

They just fucked up hard with DaS3 for some reason. That and your character will look nothing like they do in the builder, forcing you to Tongue at Cathedral to correct it.

>>165763997
No one at the studio can remember what blonde hair looks like because they're surrounded by 30 generation deep Japanese families.

>>165764356
It's good for fall damage and fucking with people but IIRC it turns your roll into a jump. You can also aggro NPCs by standing near them for too long.

>>165763631
If you cant pull off the cheapest tricks in the book then its no wonder you need help. Also grape covenant rewards suck.

I heard the bonus boss for the DLC will just be two copies of Champion Gundyr, only they both start red-eyed, use their barges and kicks more often, and are immune to parrying. In fact, attempting it always gives you a partial that always drains your stamina, then you get riposted.

>>165763673
>>165763687
Aw hell, never knew that.

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>>165764517
What claims? Can you fucking read? Benhart didn't get buffed, he was and is still fine. I'm talknig about ashen knight, which i even mentioned in the previous post. I don't know what data you need, just summon him for LGK and fuck off in a corner while he kills the boss alone, would that be enough proof for you?

>>165764364
>>165764437
I was about to ask the sa-

>>165764571
HOLY SHIT I CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE MY CLASS?

>>165764704
>HOLY SHIT I CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE MY CLASS?
Yeah, but I suggest you don't change the levels with CE but rather respecc with Rosaria after the class change.

>>165764664
I honestly don't even like this game. I wanted all trophies a while back, and I stand by that. Whenever I attempt to invade I just get invaded by some faggot with a greatshield.

>>165764906
Man, I need to change it. I started as a Warrior with 11 useless luck points.

>>165765047
Warrior is the best for quality build anyways you retard

>>165764526
Because different levels use different lights.

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>>165764437
Please use the correct one.

>>165764906
>>165765047

Oh, nevermind, got what you said. Yeah, that's the plan.

>>165763997

They don't. Looks fine in Bloodborne.

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>haven't played since DLC
>check latest patch notes
>"Updated multiplayer in the Painted World of Ariandel so that guests can also fight Sir Vilhelm"

THESE FUCKING CASUALS ARE RUINING MY SERIES REEEEEEEEEEE

>>165764942
Nobody is making you play a game you dont like. And absolutely nobody wants to hear you talk about sucking at a game you dont like for autism trophies.

>>165764702
>What claims?

Principally the same one you're defending in this very post, namely that Boyd can solo the LGK.

>Can you fucking read?

Can you? I'm not talking about Benhart anymore.

>Just play through to the end of Dark Souls 2 and post my evidence for me

That's unreasonable and to be frank I think that if I did that and Boyd died you'd just say it was a fluke. How much health did the LGK even have when you were summoned into the fight? IIRC LGK doesn't even try to summon until he's at half health.

>>165765264
>mfw I played through the DLC
>wondering why no one was summoning me and why I never saw any signs
>realize after I beat Friede that I had a password on for the whole thing

wew

>>165765269
Then stop giving me (you)'s, you retard.

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nigga cain't even handle my spells, only the descendants of african kangz can use my advanced black magic yo
dumb whitie think he can use black magic like he some justin bieber dumb cracka

>>165764548
In DS2? Yeah. Sacred Oath and Unleash Magic are the only good offensive buffs in the game.

It raises your AR by 50 and your physical defense by 70. That means you dish out 40 damage higher before modifiers. So on rapiers, that can mean up to 70-80 more damage (30% increase or more). You can also hard swap the southern ritual band to use it with only 1 slot.

Pure physical vs Pure physical: Sacred Oath
Pure physical vs buffed+infused: Great Magic Barrier
Buffed+infused vs pure physical: Sacred Oath (not as effective) or Denial
Buffed+Infused vs Buffed+infused: Great magic Barrier

>>165765104
How

>Pyromancers trying to outshoot my Great Soul Arrows

Best spell.

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>>165765518

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>>165765480
>Sorceries
Real men use miracles

>>165765362
He does a shitton of piercing damage that goes through LGK's shield because estoc, and he has a ton of health. He took more than a quarter of boss's health while i was chasing the host around and still had about 80-90% health left. I'm sure the whole fight would go the same way, unless he somehow catches every knockdown attack possible while not hitting anything.

>>165765579
Spellfags leave. This general is for real men.

>playing SotFS
>I'm at brightstone cove
>fuck these spiders
>someone told me they don't like fire, better try that
>it doesn't do shit

WHO LIED TO ME

>>165765608
But I want to buff my weapons and shit. Like a battlemage, you know?

>>165762131
>>you will never down the Pursuer's Bird at Dragon Aerie, and then duel him one final time on the rope bridge
Alright I'll admit that I really want a 1v1 fight against a boss thats just you and them on a thin bridge where defensive options are limited so rolling and blocking are things you have to do very carefully.

>>165765785
That isn't quality

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>>165765785
>he wants to do a hybrid build in DS3

Look at this poor faggot

>>165765626
Exapnding on that, since i was using LGK as an example for general softs summon retardness, Bradley or whatever the alva set guy is called solo watcher+defender and nashandra, both in the same go if he's lucky with the heals and completely devastates flexile sentry and Najka. Bashful Ray can solo skeleton kings if he gets there without falling off a cliff.

So Artorias fanwank DLC, right ?

DS3 was giant a fanservice game, and we only got his armor, you'd think they'd do more

>>165765741
Pretty sure they are afraid of fire, yes. Maybe you need to think a little broader.

>>165765838
But, anon, I never said I want quality.

>>165764906
>>165765047
>>165764704

>>165765875
Stop being smuggy and explain why you're being smug.

Did they do something with UGS's? I haven't played since right after they fixed GS poise but now I'm seeing a lot of UGS's in arena and webm's.

>>165766030
Fucked up the quotes, but you got my point.

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Want to play a 4 element caster using all magic schools

start as sorc, pyro, or cleric? want to keep physical stats at base, what gear should I be on the lookout for?

what spells should I prioritize?

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>>165765615
Damn cleric.

>>165765897
Direct sequel is not the same thing as a fanservice, retard. There's a very small amount of meaningless DS2-like fanservice in DS3.

>>165766001
I'm using the torch

>>165765671
I use the heysel pick so it's ok. It's basically a warpick with a built in crossbow.

>>165766263
Then you must not be playing softs, because spiders don't attack while you are carrying a torch.

>>165766227
A bad direct sequel is worse than new ideas with a few bits of bad fanservice.

>>165766030
Hybrids for the meta levels worked fine in 1 and 2, but don't in 3.

You either go quality (which is 80% of the playerbase) or full on faith or intelligence build.

Sorceries and Miracles do shit for damage if you don't invest in them properly.

>>165765626
>>165765879
I'm still not quite on board with this but I am finding stuff that says that Boyd's a badass so IDK, I never thought he was all that great but my experience could be the outlier.

so i have to kill vendrick if i want all the crowns?