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Chester edition

*tip fedora* >>165751586

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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1st for cute
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>>165795221
xth for no 2nd dlc announcement
xth for it's going to be shit anywawy
xth for it's going to be more ds1 fanservice garbage
xth for it's going to give us another chillbite ring
xth for it's going to have 2 bosses, a reskinned ds2 boss and a slightly worse version of a random bloodborne boss with 3 healthbars
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Reminder that if you twink, gank or go to FCs you are a bad player and a cheater too. Only those who solo finger or invade post SL 70 are allowed in this thread
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>>165795630
says who
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>>165793559
Invasions are more or less a terrible ratio of win/lose only if you don't play it smart or tryhard. You can forget about 'fun' builds and go for builds that can kill in a couple of hits or are suited for obscuring ring. You have a better chance on lower levels because summons are much more rare than meta levels where they are almost readily available.
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>>165795071

Or just don't join PCFCBF's on /dsg/... cheating is really such a small, tiny segment of the overall PC population that you almost never run into them, especially if you avoid meta level aldrich invasions.

>>165795223

That's because at meta level (SL120-140) people have already beat the game so most of them are just going to be pro gank squads or pro lone hosts abusing the host advantages to the absolute maximum allowed. Good luck out-attritioning a lone host with tears, 15 estus, constantly running/rolling away with a SS and parry tool just turning-and-burning and parry one-shotting forever while easily maintaining his 1800-some-odd life, or summoner classes in a similar situation. Hope you enjoy using literally only one-shot builds because super high damage output is the only thing that's really viable and the host/phantoms have access to just as much broken one-shot shit if they want. Better be invading only at aldrich because good fucking luck beating a 1v3 at meta level unless people are just gonna walk into your sellsword DMB spin2win.

I mean granted I've done my fair share of SL130 aldrich invasions but it's mostly a shitshow. At low-mid levels you can get away with a lot more sorts of builds
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> Get DS3 for Christmas
> Always heard great things about the multiplayer
> Try some invading
> Always ends up a 1v3
> Get accused of mob camping when I try to retreat
I don't see the appeal.
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It sure would be nice if characters like the Emerald Herald or the DaS3 Firekeeper had some emotions to display in their dialogue
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>>165795624
For Honor is less than a month away, and destroying scrub ganks will never go out of style. Griefing co-opers never gets old.
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What is up with the undead pilgrims? Why are they turning into flying monsters later on in the game?
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>>165795879
>get accused

wat

you can do whatever you want in an invasion short of using CE, anon. the whole point of invasions are no rules. do whatever it takes that isn't literal cheating (even glitching is fine) to win, leave muh honor at the door.
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>>165795879
when on a 1v3 situation its better to retreat and wait, it's likely that another red will join in a while
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>>165796009
>For Honor is less than a month away

What the fuck does this have to do with anything

Do you think that game plays anything like souls?

Did you play the TA? If you got into the game, after 5 minutes you'd realize it's just real time rock paper scissors. Literally. Not even as hyperbole.
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>>165795447

>no time travel mechanics like in Dark Souls II, where you meet loli firekeeper.

It's a shame.
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>>165796129
Because Miyazaki forgot to add the reason. Just like a ton of shit that people have been contemplating over for the past 6 years.
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Came back from a long uninstall of DS1 before Steam integration.

Did the community activity plummet, or did BSoft fuck up matchmaking when trying to remove GFWL?
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>>165795737
>>165795864
>cheating is really such a small, tiny segment of the overall PC population that you almost never run into them
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>>165796141
What's CE?

>>165796148
I tried that. I hid behind the giant in the cathedral and they all started messaging me calling me a mob camping noob.
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>>165796180
It's the closest thing we'll get in the foreseeable future to DaS3 PvP that is actually competitive and balanced. Should effectively replace souls dueling entirely, invasions are still cool though.
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How did you even die there?
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plz use way of blue ...
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>>165796324
>i dont understand how souls lore works
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>>165796129
L O N D O R
O
N
D
O
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>>165796398
That's when you take a screenshot and post it here so we can laugh at those morons.

>>165796372
Both actually!

>>165796324
I-it will totally be answered in the next DLC r-right?
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>>165796556
>random name drops
>i dont need any kind of clue to how the lore works
>inb4 spoonfeeding
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>>165796398
Message them back saying they are noobs who need to gank to take out one invader
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Final twink I guess?

Lorian sword +1, shield doesn't even matter

Any last minute changes, perhaps a different armour set to try?
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>>165795221
Why is every general filled with queerness of the gay kind?
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>>165796409
>It's the closest thing we'll get in the foreseeable future to DaS3 PvP that is actually competitive and balanced.

Hey, wait, actually, no it's not and it's not even fucking remotely close and kill yourself

Again, did you play the TA?

Have you literally ever played the game ever at all at any point in your life?

It's not Dark Souls 3. It's not even a little like Dark Souls 3. It's knights, and it's combat, and so you've automatically assumed it's Dark Souls. Get the fuck off it. Play the game. It plays absolutely nothing like Dark Souls, not even in a remote way. It's like saying "Gears of War will replace Dark Souls".
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>>165796720
>Both
....Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
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>>165796895
Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong general, the hetero general is two blocks down.
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>>165795864
At low SLs you easily win with no skill needed. You need to gimp yourself to make them interesting, they got so boring I started using gimmick shit like tailbone or pontiff's scythe to keep them interesting, yet, most people still can't beat simple R1 spam. Just because it's not DaS chaos weapons tier, doesn't make them so much harder. Twinking still remains a crutch for players who need such help to win and I'm willing to bet if chain vanished and early raw weapons got nerfed but hosts summoning abilities also got nerfed, most twinks would give up without advantages to abuse.

Meta invasions get interesting because, like I said, no one holds back because they know not to, you actually can win around 50% of them(around how much I can, better players do even more) if you practice and abuse memorizing the level, areas to hide while using regen, hit and run tactics and so on, you can trump them by preying on their overconfidence and it's the sole place you can actually justify tryharding to the max.
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FC is still on, but it could use some more people.
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>>165795879
> Always heard great things about the multiplayer

you fell for the memes
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>>165796324
He often wants you to fill in the blanks with your imagination though.
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>>165795879
1v3 is part of the fun.

>Get accused of mob camping when I try to retreat
Who cares?
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>>165796409
>>165796180
>>165796993

>comparing a shitty class perk system to a From game

For Honor is like dark souls if you were completely limited to the starting classes only with no upgrade options and you had to team up on people in order to beat them rock-paper-scissors style.

I'm hoping that all the "hardcore pvp" players go to For Honor once it's out so that the majority can resume playing dark souls 3 as intended
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Is DaS3 dead on PS4 or is literally everyone just over in Ashes Undead Matches?
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>>165797312
That's only because their opponents are usually noobies, not because invaders really have an advantage while twinking. Any time you win as an invader ever, you're relying on the fact that the host doesn't feel like running to the boss fog or just lightrolling around while resummoning or waiting for blues. I'm not arrogant enough to say I could kill any other ds3 player, but I'm beyond certain that I could avoid anyone at all if I wanted, even people far better at the game than me. If you can do much as a host, you win, even against a twink. If you really can't get any phantoms and the bridge to the boss is cut or something, then I guess it's a stalemate, but outside of that any invader victory was permitted by the host regardless of the invader being a twink or not.
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>>165798371
>owning a nogamestation4
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>>165796476
Should I use dried finger when I go through areas too whe using WoB?
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>>165798204
And how was dark souls 3 "intended" to be played, exactly?
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>>165796398
>behind the giant in the cathedral
that isn't even a hard mob for them to run past, what retards
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>>165798676
YES!!!
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>>165798371
Dark Souls 3 has been pretty fucking alive on on PC these last few weeks so I assume PS4 is alive and well. They have bloodborne too though I guess.
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so are meta level aldrich invasions actually fun and challening or simply straight-up cancer? been reading the thread and i can't tell, opinions seem mixed.
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>>165799049
I still get summoned for OoK in less than a minute after ringing
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>>165798543
>not because invaders get an advantage twinking
Twinking is a very big advantage and a non twink good player is very unlikely to win unless the twink themselves is bad. Running to the boss fog is very unlikely since on NG people still have plenty of enemies you can trap them with and you can always use the surge bait into r1 to trick them. At high SLs people ARE looking for fights. I never had hosts actually manage to escape into fogs unless the enemies were dead already or we fought near the door, both sogns you can use to BC if you find that likely
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>>165796764

>hornet ring
>no means of parrying
>only 1 slow-ass weapon, no fast back-up

Also, I'm not sure, but I think ripostes do shit damage if you don't meet the 1-handed requirements.
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>>165799362
>>hornet ring
>>no means of parrying
Well, as the other anon said, it's low level so breaking guard is easy, about the backup weapon, well not sure on that
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>connection error
Signs were pretty dry anyways. FC over.
Thanks for coming.
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>>165799212
>Running to the boss fog is very unlikely
nearly every single playthrough I run to the boss fog without killing enemies for anything but specific loot drops at this point

The reason why its unlikely is only because hosts are stupid, not because it's hard. I assure you I could strip off all my armor and roll away from you forever, even if you had 50+ stamina advantage.
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>>165796476
Hiding in the Water Storage bonfire room embered with WoB and dry finger and then watching the souls roll in when mad spirits, cops, goofags, and fingers start fighting each other.
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>>165799362
>ripostes do shit damage if you don't meet the 1-handed requirements.

Yes but fun fact if you 2 hand it before you riposte, it doesn't. Don't think there's enough time to weapon swap, 2 hand, then riposte though, at least I've never pulled it off. If you're using the weapon you're gonna riposte with and don't have to swap though you can definitely do it.

t. guy who invaded with a raw +4 great mace for a bit, only meeting the requirements while 2 handing it.
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>>165799740
>made me kill dancer a third time for nothing

Thanks for hosting.
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>>165799491

Just drop the shield for a blessed caestus dude. You're not going to use the shield anyway since you need to 2-hand your UGS to meet the requirements. Unzip the caestus when you want to parry.

Also yeah, I advise a fast back-up weapon. In that case a shield MIGHT be ok if the back-up weapon is best 1-handed.

t. someone with 350+ hours of pure invading in DaSIII
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>>165799963
as a twink you can't upgrade the weapon all the way, which means the blessed infusion won't give you 2 hp/s like something with built in regen

I agree that he'd be better off with a caestus and better weaponry, but he's already memeing as is and onehanding a UGS ever is a really obvious tell that you're going to parry
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>>165799156
I'm defending doing them. Other SLs are too boring. If you want regular non easy mode invasions but non bullshit ones, do SL 70 on castle, archives, DLC and ADP.
Better yet, you can just go to Anor Londo/duke's

Meta invasions are full of tryhard shit. As I said, I like it because there's no mercy, on both sides. Hosts will cheese as hard as they can, as will invaders and everyone will use what they think is broken at least, so it's not a place to try and make GH or whips work. I've had fun moments we got a ganker to be left alone and all three of us unzipped uchis and a plow and chased him to death then pointed down together and also times I ran away for a lot of time from 3 guys before backup came. If you don't take Souls pvp seriously to the point of getting mad, like complaining about 3v1s and want the challenge, knowing you're going to be at disadvantage almost every time unless you catch a gank spank in progress, go for it. Get used to swapping cat ring mid chases, when to unequip things for fast rolls and everything else. You won't win often at first, but it feels really good when you do, more than just twinking.

>>165799760
Most players like you won't be invaded. The host, with friends, will often take their time even if familiar with the game. The solo ones are more likely to be unembered or offline to play through the game faster
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>>165800441
Get etheral oak. The regen doesn't scale with upgrade level. It's also a great shield for SS
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>>165800540
>Most players like you won't be invaded.
Wasn't saying otherwise. Most people who actually understand how easy it is to flee from an invader are going to move through the game before an invader actually gets matched with them. That doesn't change the fact that it's completely doable though; anyone who loses to an invader has noone but themselves to blame unless the bridge to maria/doggo got cut before they could do anything.
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>>165795221
Chester wears a tophat.
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>not putting the Discord in the OP
shame on you
https://discord.gg/Zrr5y
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Well, the last boss of Dark Souls was disappointing...
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>>165801305
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>>165800745
You can catch people if you do so at the start of areas. Irithyll, farron, settlement, dlc, adp, archives, etc are all areas IbetI could catch people fleeing to the boss, specially simce the range limit for REO invading at the first bonfire is generous enough not to be any close to the fog
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>>165800740
>>165800441

True, but the regen is insignificant anyway when you have ~6 ~+8 estus sippies that heal 50% of your HP per gulp.

Again, the shield will highly likely be useless since you're 2-handing your UGS. At least you can use the caestus to switch to and spam L2 when you're getting R1 spammed by straight swords. Shield is only useful when you're up against a katana dash-attack or spear spammer and you switched to your fast back-up weapon, but you won't really find those in the first 2 areas of the game.

But that's just me.
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>>165799156

Don't invade above SL80.

Ever.
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>>165801418
Dark Souls 3 I meant to say, The last boss of Dark souls 3 was disappointing.
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>>165800740
I know, that's what >>165796764 was using and what I was referring to
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>>165799963
>webm
poor guy
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>>165801615
It's the same boss so I don't understand why you bothered to specify.
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Replaying Dark 1, do you guys set the FPS to 60 or keep it at native 30?

I can run Dark 2 and 3 on high with 60 fps, I have an rx 470. Curious for your thoughts
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>>165801443
I can run away forever even in the arena, I've been winning matches with a lightroll and great farron darts. Even if you're locked in a room together, it's easy to just dodge forever; worst case scenario is that you have to spend so much time dodging that you can't attack, but you don't need to attack to run to the boss fog.

>>165801465
Yeah, I should have remembered that. That's the precise reason why I went for 12 faith and flame arc on my twink instead of 12 str and the priestess ring for replenishment and/or blessed weapon.
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i heard that if your character has over a certain amount of intelligence, sages crystal staff is better than court sorcerers. Is this true?
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>>165801428
So FC faggots don't post shit like >>165796414 in here and can keep it in their circlejerk. The Discord benefits all of us. They get a circlejerk while we keep their shit out of our general
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>>165801990
60. 30 is unplayable.
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>>165802048
You can't dodge forever with mobs. I can assure you I'd kill a lone host if caught near the start of any of those areas if they only ran away from me.
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>>165802137
I don't think it has to do with int, I think it's just that the sage's staff has a better chant or something. Can't quite recall though, sorry.
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>>165802145
good point
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>>165802145
>FC
>circlejerks

Really gets my gears grinding.
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>>165801990
>>165802156
>30 is unplayable
>he apparently hasn't played any game made before 2015

30 is fine. 60 is smoother but when you do get framerate drops (and they are unavoidable) they will be a lot more dramatic usually, so it comes down to how much confidence you have in your hardware, you might want to drop the framerate cap for blighttown and sif.
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>>165802284
>pcfcbf
>can we ban x?
>fc webms
>nice fight we had there x
>who allowed this pyro/mage?
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>>165802145
'Member Ds1 FC?
'Member Ds2 FC?
'Member BB FC before they got their own board?
'Member how all of those happened before discord?

No you don't because your a faggot
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>>165802225
>You can't dodge forever with mobs.
but I can run past all of them to the fog every playthrough, an invader is just one more mob if I'm not actually fighting him
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>>165801964
part of why it's disappointing.

Think Nameless King was best boss of the vanilla.

Maybe I will buy the DLC next.
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>>165802452
Not if the area is so large like those and the invader unzips a katana/spear + crossbow or similar
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>>165802431
'Member DaS1 BF posting?
'Member DaS2 BF posting?
Of course you don't, if it happened it was nowhere near as common.
Also, just because a problem went without a solution in the past doesn't mean a solution is bad.
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How do I pssh nuthing personnel in DaS3?
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>>165802652
>Not knowing bfposting is 1 person shitposting that got banned from 4chan

Nice.
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>>165802705
>implying bfposting won't grow into new, stronger forms
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>>165802573
I've ran away from plenty of katana invaders, I made an effort to do so against bloodshades when sprinting from pontiff to aldrich. I'm not going to pretend they're the cream of the crop, but all I have to do is time rolls and I'm good. We've also been ignoring options like seed, etc.

>>165799740
>leaning away from the front of the board
>back lifts up
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Is the season pass worth 19 dollars?
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oh boy, i have no health man, pumped all my souls into faith and now everything one shots me
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Can you still WA with 1FP?
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>>165803290
That's only 5 more dollars than the current dlc. If you're willing to buy the current DLC and are willing to gamble that the up and coming dlc will be worth at least 5 bucks then yeah, go for it. The planed price for the second DLC is 25 USD I think.
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>>165803695
Fine, I'll buy it tomorrow.

I quite enjoyed using the rapier I got from a bro in DSG, might as well get one legit.
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>>165802137
>>165802267
At 57-60 INT, sage's crystal staff + L2 buff active does slightly more damage than a court sorcerer + L2 buff. The problem is the buff is so situational because it only helps when you know you won't be getting hit for the next few seconds and want to put out massive burst damage. Sage's L2 also costs more FP to cast.
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How do I invade in Dork Souls II, and what are the consequences
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Holy shit why are there no fun weapons in DaS3
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>>165805375
Red sign soapstone, no consequences.

Cracked red eye orb, adds 1 to your sin count. Over 10 sin and you can be auto-invaded by blue sentinels. They will lower your sin by 1 if you die to them. You cannot lower sin any other way.

Get cracked orbs by winning duels in the brotherhood of blood arena, or buying in NG+ for 10,000 souls each. Enter duels using tokens of spite, which you get from killing players you invade with Red Sign Soapstone or Cracked Red Eye Orb.

Having Sin also drops the scaling of Lost Sinner's Sword by 11 AR, though if you hit negative scaling it won't reduce damage further than base. Raw infusion makes it have 529 damage, so take the normal scaling you have, subtract 69. If it's still positive, then use it normally. If it's negative (2-4 sins, depending on how high your str/dex is) infuse raw.

So it usually goes:

Red sign > Kill host, get token of spite > Brotherhood of blood arena > Kill other player, get cracked eye orb > Invade, Kill host, get token of spite

etc. until you lose to a host or a brotherhood of blood member. Then you have to go back to using the red sign soapstone.
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>>165806517
Is the lost sinner's sword even good?
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>dueling in dark souls 2 PC
>it's literally one guy with invisible weapon and dark magic
>beats me 4 times
>every time he wins he drops the "very good" stone
FUCK YOU
I'm buying scholar fuck this
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>>165806825
Great damage and range but it's slow and clunky as fuck. Good luck hitting anyone with it.
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>>165807496
he's probably sad you don't show up anymore
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>>165807496
>ds2 vanilla
>now only poor eurofags with 2k hrs play it
wew I miss my builds
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>>165806825
It would be the undisputed best UGS in the game if it wasn't for its bad moveset.
>Lowest weight
>Lowest stamina cost
>highest damage
>low scaling and equip requirements (makes it great on twink builds when infused raw)
>High counter modifier
>basically a zweihander with Greatsword damage output and no other bad stats
>Dogshit moveset.

Powerstance is where it really shines, because its one weakness (moveset) gets overwritten by the powerstance moveset, making it the best powerstance UGS in the game.

Otherwise, it's still pretty good as a low-level riposte weapon since you can get 95% of its max possible damage without scaling, and other riposte hardswaps (giant warrior club) require 40+ str to use. LSS can be 2handed for riposte at 16 / 18 strength and dex.
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Can I still do this:
>Go offline
>Cheat engine in upgrades or items
>Go offline
>Have cheated items
>Don't get banned
Or did they patch that
Cheating in items for ease in PvP has been a thing since DS1 and I want to keep doing it in DS3
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>>165808185
Can't really say for sure, some people have reported being banned, while many others have done things of that nature and had no issues.

Either someone isn't telling the truth of everything they fucked with or the system isn't consistent and will catch people at random for the same thing.
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>>165807671
I have a question also
Somehow I can't find by looking it up, is scholar a seperate game from DS2? As in, you get it you have to make a whole new character and start over?
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>invaded by level 1 twink
>kill him by spamming soul arrow until he falls off a ledge
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>>165808603
>things that never happened
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>>165808185

Been doing it since the DLC dropped and haven't been banned.
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I want to do a theme playthrough of DS3, but don't have a friend on to twink my character, is there a way to cheat in ds3 for some gear that won't get me banned?
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>>165808384
Scholar is a separate game. It runs at 60fps and uses directx11, making it run much better on most hardware. They also made a lot of changes, most of which are improvements, by adding NG+ content, integrating the DLC with the main game (incl. enemy invaders with DLC weapons) and smoothed out some of the more jarring progression issues (no more jumping down to the gutter required to get a branch if you want to get to shaded woods early, you can buy them instead).

They added some mini bosses and statues in front of hard areas so that players are guided along the intended path easier, and made some areas (like the bell towers) more optional by moving keys back into the main path instead of making you go through there instead.

They added more bonfire ascetics and red phantom invasions, too.

So all in all, you get more freedom on where to go, but you end up more committed to your chosen paths once you start using your branches and lockstones.

There is an overall change to most item descriptions too, to make the lore better, and a completely new final boss.

I think most people like SOTFS better but there are a few changes that break it for some people, like moving the bastille key out of the gargoyles, so that the gargoyles are no longer required to beat in order to unlock the bastille doors.
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Nioh is going to have PvP:

http://gematsu.com/2017/01/nioh-add-free-pvp-mode-launch

This gen should become /dsg/ - Souls and Soulslike General.
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Will I get banned if I use a trainer or ce in offline mode to play through parts of the Dark Souls 3 with infinite hp?
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>>165809678
It already is. People just don't discuss LotF because who the fuck managed to play that shit all the way through
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>>165809792
>using cheats to play through the game
If you can't beat the bosses then you're just going to get reamed in PvP. There's absolutely no point.

Duping or inserting items, sure. Some of the shit is ridiculously tedious to farm, and while it's lazy, no one would judge you. Having to cheat the game itself is just embarrassing.
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>>165809792
Yes.
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>>165809882
>because who the fuck managed to play that shit all the way through

Fair enough.
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>>165809678
Nioh is only a "souls like" in terms of the setting and style. It has no customization, lore, or explorable RPG environments. It's a hack and slash game.

The only customization the game will have are visual distinguishers between players doing Co-op. So "pvp" is likely just a tacked on arena mode where you both control the same main character. Not like souls at all.

When will people fucking learn that "souls like" doesn't refer to every fantasy melee combat game...
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My cat just gave birth
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>>165810052
It has all that. You clearly have not played it.
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does anyone know whats the DSfix version for 1.0.2.0 version of the game?
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>>165810180
>https://psnprofiles.com/DesecratedFlame
>ctrl+f "nioh"
>hasn't played it

Well aren't you fucking retarded?
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>>165809792

You can do that online.
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>>165809437
>made some areas (like the bell towers) more optional
which is a terrible idea

bellkeeper was the only ds2 covenant that actually worked properly and they fucked it up
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>>165810180
>>165810740
>expecting Lucifer "You are shit at the game if you can't beat defiled Rom on first try but it took me months to even touch the Chalices" to know what he's talking about

Don't let him meme you
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>>165810740
>>165810902
Same Fag

Also:
Are you retarded?
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>>165810902
>expecting Lucifer "My waifu isn't shit and you're just a troll" Shitposter to even say when he's wrong

>>165811000
Guess again fag. I'm >>165810740
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>>165810052
>>165809678

Incomplete list of bullshit games people keep thinking are "souls likes"
>Lords of the Fallen (No gameplay customization)
>Nier (No gameplay customization)
>Eitr (No gameplay customization)
>Nioh (Minor, single-player-focused-only gameplay customization)
>For Honor (class-based customization only, no RPG mechanics, team oriented)
>Hyper light drifter (Different style, No customization, no PvP)
>Dragon's dogma (No multiplayer)
>God Hand (Different style, No Multiplayer, no RPG mechanics)
>Armored Core Verdict Day (Different style, Mostly guns with some melee, no RPG mechanics)
>Monster Hunter (No PvP, limited customization)

And none of them have invasions.

ACVD is the closest in terms of customization and balance to dark souls, Nioh (or dragon's dogma) is the closest in terms of gameplay.

The first company to figure out that you need heavy multiplayer focused customization, satisfying melee combat, AND basic RPG mechanics, you'll finally make a better game.
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>>165811000
>Lucifer "Everyone against me is the same person" Shitposter
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>>165810902
>he got the Dark Lord ending in DaS1 and the Great One ending in BB
>looking at guides for your first playthrough

Indeed, this is the attention whore you are all replying to
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>>165811102
You forgot to out Bloodborne on the list

:^)

seriously, :^)!!! just memeing
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Why is Sirris so weak when her Grandfather hits like a truck.
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>>165811556
she got her genes from the other side of the family
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>>165811153
>>165811110
>>165811102
You're just making yourself look even stupider to everyone in the know.
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>>165811556
he walked the path of the grape

she was a sour blueberry
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>>165811556
she fell for the healer meme
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>>165811594
Lucifer, at what point do you realize that you're the one retarded?
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>>165811594
go to nioh general instead, then.
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>>165811556
I will never get over how fucking weak she is.
>help her against Hodrick
>she manages to get parried and riposted at least twice in a row
>scramble to interrupt the riposte by staggering him after his parry, to buy Sirris time to back off and heal
>she casts DMB and goes right back in, getting parried and riposted to death

The one time she was helpful to me was one of my Homoprinces attempts where she actually casted a heal to keep me in the fight.
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>>165811750
I am not even talking about just that.
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>tfw start a new character and no other players your level so the online play is basically non existent
Seriously, no invasions, no coop, nothing.
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>>165811978
do you mean how we point out your shitposting? Or how you claim to be good when it took you MONTHS to even touch the chalices? Or how about when you think anyone that thinks your "waifu" doesn't look good you call them a troll? Is it because we laugh at your failing ego? Or how about how whenever someone comes up with something that goes against what you are spewing without any validation you claim they are a kid or a troll?

What exactly are you talking about?

inb4 something along the lines of "you're a troll"
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>>165811102
Most people claim they want souls-like games, but what they really mean is "I want a melee multiplayer game where I can use a bunch of different weapons and each weapon plays differently"

The stuff that makes souls mechanically different from all the other games out there isn't really necessary to appeal to most of the base needs of the consumer. That's why other companies stick to either pure RPGs or pure hack and slash.
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>>165808185
>>Go offline
>>Cheat engine in upgrades or items
>>Go offline
>>Have cheated items
>>Don't get banned

Sure, since you stay offline
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>>165812184
The fact that I played DaS1 on 360 or the fact the full game of Nioh isn't out yet, and alphas and betas don't give trophies. Etc.
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>>165812383
We aren't talking about DaS1 here. It is known Nioh isn't out yet.

What about literally everything else I said?

SPECIFICALLY
About you constantly saying "axe is best" without trying all the weapons, taking MONTHS to complete a SINGLE chalice, not completing DaS2 until months after SotFS and claiming the entire game was trash, stating game mechanics that are blatantly false without testing (can't mid roll through more than 1 wog), saying that anyone that doesn't like your fire waifu is a troll, and the list goes on.

I honestly want to defend you because you DO give solid advance, but the times you are called out on something that IS wrong you get on a high horse spouting how shit the other person is or that they are a troll. Even when someone DOES try to defend you, you say you didn't even want to attempt to change how people view you by saying your interest was ironic. (The person compiling a list about your dislike for DS2)

You wouldn't be viewed as such a shitter if you stepped back and knew when you were wrong and admitted to it.
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>>165812383
The reason people hate trips on 4chan is because you gain nothing from the profile accountability. All posts are deleted, there's no upvotes and shit, so all you're doing is exposing yourself to their hate while getting nothing of your own. Eventually you'll stay dumb shit and you won't have your anon to protect you.

You just happen to say more dumb shit than anyone else in this thread AND have a trip on.
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What is the most patrician covenant in DaS1?
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>>165812753
>We aren't talking about DaS1 here. It is known Nioh isn't out yet.

Moving the goal posts again, huh?

See:
>>165810740


Also, chalices are not part of the main game. They are an optional side area. Not doing optional stuff does not mean I didn't complete the game.
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>>165812864
To be fair stupid people can make themselves notorious on this site even without a trip, generals make this especially easy since you're posting (and sometimes playing) with largely the same people every day, eventually we'd know him regardless and most people would recognise his posting style at a glance, the trip just makes it easier to hide his retarded bullshit.
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>>165813091
>completely ignored the rest of what I said
I try Lucy, I really try to help you. Apparently you don't want your image to be in a more positive light.

First step is admitting that you fucked up.
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>>165813246
You don't even see the irony in your posts, do you? You are literally doing the same thing that you are bitching about me doing in the same breath.

>First step is admitting that you fucked up.
No U
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>>165813441
Few things
>Moving the goalpost
Never moved it, it was never set. Nioh is not out yet and that is true. I didn't say you haven't played it. This is one of the issues that I didn't mention but you now bring up. You add random information to an argument which holds no bearing until you can go "ahahah you're a shitter because I said 'x' 4 posts ago"

If you want to specify what I did that I need to admit that I fucked up I'll do it. If it was actually me since this is an ANONYMOUS image board
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>>165813441
You guys think that car crash where Lucy's parents died wasn't an accident?
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>>165813441
>standard deflection
>ignores everything the post says and tries to make the argument about a goal post

don't rely on them doing anything. do it yourself
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What are the best rings for full sorcerer without the dlc in DS3?
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>>165813937
bellowing dragoncrest + young dragon + sage ring + FaP
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>bored
>start some duels
>first match is a pyro
>decide not to immediately bloodlust myself
>throws gcfb
>"sit" gesture in lava repeatedly until i die

never laughed so hard in my life
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>>165812753
>>165813091
>>165813246
>>165813441
>>165813775

>even when someone offers a hand to help him out of a hole, he just smacks it away and says he can get out the other side
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>>165814650
Thanks
Do you take FaP because damage should be high enough that you don't need something like the FP reducing ring to kill shit?
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Why did Miyazaki-San include pregnant
dog enemies?
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god i hate katanafags

running R1 really needs to be changed to a fucking vertical slash instead of a fucking lunge
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>>165815304
Because he probably didn't add them at all but just nodded off on some intern's weird suggestion.
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>>165815327
If it isn't a washing pole it's not a problem
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>>165815327
Shields are cool. Parrying is cooler.

Katana lunge R1 to R1 leaves players wide open for counter attacks if you have a shield up.
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>>165815517
when i pull out a shield, they just pull out a deep katana to counter my counter

it's retarded as fuck
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>thread completely fucking dies immediately after burgers go to sleep

What the fuck? Wake up you fucking lardasses, I need (You)'s
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>>165814996
>can't handle the heat
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>>165815303
At 30 ATT, you shouldn't be running out of fp as long as you actually have a spell with good fp/damage ratio and not just spamming CSS. I highly recommend Great Deep Soul for casual trash cleaning. Low FP cost, low stamina cost, extremely fast cast speed and it tracks so well that players have to actually focus on dodging it instead of just strafing to the side. It's also a really good distraction for charging them with Flashsword while they're making sure they avoid the orb.

Plus FaP means both more health which mages desperately need, and stamina which is also important since some spells cost as much stamina as a greatsword R2.
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Just thought id share this for luci, its been know for awhile, check the image here >>165810902 for username

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/desecratedflame
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best fucking thing i've ever fucking done
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Is SOTFS dead on pc?
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YFW
>Patch notes
>"Invaders can now invade any Host of Embers, so long as the invadee has a higher soul level and weapon upgrade level than the invader."
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>>165817324
kind of
there are still spotty summons at expected places like fofg, but pvp is basically dead; invasions are either hackers or laggy brs, arena is the same dozen or so people but with different characters
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>>165817459
People would just max out their levels and stand around in PvP hotspots.
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>>165796129
Who said they turn into flying mosters? They just may be from the same region as Pilgrims, which are mostly from Londor and both seems to be trying to reach peak of Lothric.

It's Dark Souls tho, they left blank spots so you can use imagination and bulid your own theory/lore. There are many channels on YT with lore, so I suggest checking them out. Especially when you didn't play or don't understand previous 2 DS's lore.
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>>165816486
no
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Do people look down upon using all the pieces of the same armor set? I really can't into fashion stuff, everything looks weird or just bad when it's mixed up, save for some head slot stuff.
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>>165817324
If you are looking for PvP yeah. If for co-op you still find some people but it won't be that easy since the whole coop system in DS II with SM is really fucking weird.
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>>165818717
Most people don't care what you use.
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>>165818717
No, only fashion autists whos only idea of fashion is a few generic knight sets put together.
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i wish the excess decimals didn't exist for armor pices

is 28.958 really necessary

can we just stick to like 29?
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Is there a weapon in Dark Souls 2 that has the same attack as the scythe/gargoyle's halberd from Dark Souls 1?
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>>165819041
the only weapon that share sany movesets from das1 is the majestic greatsword. it uses abyss greatsword R2s if it's in the left hand

das2 uses motion capture for all of its animations
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>>165818717
Wear anything you like or google fashion souls 3.
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>go to cut seath's tail
>instant tail slap OHKO's me

I forgot how much fun this game was.
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>>165819459
If he can attack, you're doing it wrong.
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>>165818717
Given how shit the neck seams are in DaS3, even within whole sets (looking at you Faraam), I'm pretty sure nobody would blame anybody for sticking with a single set.
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When are you supposed to go raw over fire?
pvpcucks need not apply
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i will help everyone so badly if it kills them
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>>165819869
Never. Go fire then Chaos for PvE.
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>>165818717
Except in a few cases, I prefer it. Some mash ups people make look stupid.
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>>165819949
this tactic doesn't work on ng 7
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>>165819537
Well I must be doing something horribly wrong, then. I've been trying solo for about an hour because I can't get any co-op signs, even with DSCM open. I'm only SL62 too, that's well within range.
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>>165820070
the tripfag doesn't have much experience in these games. people posted his achievements earlier and he hasn't accomplished enough to give advice
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>>165820146
Well god dammit. Should I just level up some more and come back later, then? Or does someone want to come drop a sign and watch me get dumpstered trying to cut the tail?

I have no fucking idea what the trick is, which is appalling because I bought this game on release day back in 2011 for the PS3 and did it perfectly the first time, solo.
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>>165820039
I never said it did. I never go past NG on subsequent characters though. I first character tends to stop in NG+.

>>165820070
Wait for him to break the crystal, run behind him and land some attacks while he is still stunned.

If you don't get it in one, disengage, and run to the fog gate and wait for him to come to you. This causes his tail to be in the center of the room. Just look up and watch for his head to do the tell for the laser sweep. That should give you enough time to get behind him and land one or two hits before he can do his next attack.

>>165820146
>implying
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>>165820070
The only way I found to cut seath's tail is to backup your save before the first encounter then keep restoring it and making him destroy the crystal himself.
That's the only way (probably not) to get behind him without getting crushed.
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>>165815389
He's confirmed in an interview. Like how the original design for Gwynevere didn't have 432 GG tits but the designer added them to "emphasize what her role was as a goddess"
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Is there any way to make the Drakeblood Greatsword NOT hot trash?
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>>165818717
There's a limit to how creative you can get with DS3.

Everything clips with fucking everything anyway, even within sets.
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Why is sellsword twinblades better than falchion with less AR?
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>>165813030
Haha please clap
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>have listened to people bitch about Dark Sword for three years
>it's a normal straightsword with bad R2s
Why are Souls players such babies?
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>>165821735
Very high output for low effort input. It's not even close to the best weapon, but elitists find ways to look down on it because you don't have to twink and grind for hours to get it to a usable level.
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>>165821524
AR only accounts for a single weapon, or a single R1. An L1 swings both weapons which means 2 ticks of that AR are being dealt. That's why twinaxes hit so hard despite only having around 380 AR, because it's dealing 380+380 AR of pure standard damage.
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Which damage type is worth picking up as a side weapon solely for the resistance of certain enemies?
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>>165819869
Demon ruins
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>>165822905
Can't go wrong with lightning or fire. I want to say strike as well but I don't know if it's still anywhere near as great as it was in DaS2 assuming you're talking about DaS3.
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>>165822905
I mainly use fire for those fucking dogs and watch them burn away slowly. Fuck dogs
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Sorcery or faith/pyromancy/dark miracles for weapon buffs?
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>>165823597
none, resins are better than buffs in every way
the only buff thats remotely good is blessed weapon
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>it's a Guts cosplayer is shit at the game episode

Anyone else remember going through a Berserk phase? Me neither.
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>>165823786
So basically, like infusion? So should I stick with quality build and use resins?
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>>165823896
yep
shame how quality is universally better than specialization in ds3
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>>165823928
Oh well then I fucked really good, cause I put my points into faith instead of using them for vitality or endurance. Can reset in next playthrough;_;.
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>>165822905
Lightening and fire are both good.

Some enemies get "stunned" in a sense from fire, and lightening just does good damage on some enemy types.
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>>165823837
Imagine how much better these games would be if Miyazaki wasn't just riding Berzerk's dick for everything
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What's the best medium shield?
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>>165824835
Lothric Knight shield and Ethereal Oak shield are my favorites, but I have no idea if they're the best.
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>>165823597
bundles
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>>165824835
Guessing silver or black knight shield depending if you need the parry or not.
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>>165821195
I guess that's a no... shame, it's such a cool looking sword
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>>165809882
Was it bad? I have it on the list of games to try ever since I got the Dark Souls bug less than a year ago.
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>>165825209
It has a pretty good damage output with a buff like DMB on it. It seems to work okay for general PvE use as well.
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>>165824979
I like Ethereal Oak a lot, the Stability seems a bit low sadly and the Fire resist is terrible.
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>>165825347
I mostly like it for the regen and aesthetics. Never felt comfortable actually blocking anything with a shield in DaS3.
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>>165799049
There was a recent Steam sale and the russians had their holidays after New Year's.
As someone who plays BB the multiplayer in BB is kinda shit imo aside from organized Chalice co-op and you have to factor in the cost of PS+.
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>>165825420
I hide behind shields like a coward... though oddly never get enough STR to get a great shield, funny that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s571EFuxINE

Can someone tell me where the voice clips at 0:50 are from?
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>>165825828
Is this bait
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>>165825881
It is not.
I'm new as fuck to Dark Souls.
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>>165825959
DSP. Our Lord, saviour and most respected pillar of the community
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>>165809678
Nioh will have their own general and discussion about Nioh should go there.

From's next dark fantasy rpg i.p should be discussed here though unless it's an exclusive again because the shitflinging will reach new heights.
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>>165826032
Thanks.
Would you happen to know the video that his voice clips come from there?
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>>165825828
DarkSydePhil, also known as DSP. One of the shittiest and most insufferable whiny manbaby streamers that is shockingly bad at the thing he does for a living.

So, of course, he's the mascot for the series. He's currently re-running Dark Souls in 2017 after ragequitting and giving up on it in 2011.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXqLVwKtYE8
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>>165826113
Nah. He says lines like those in most of his videos though so it wouldn't be hard to find
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>>165826113
>>165826548
>>165826585

Not the vid you're looking for, but skip to the 1 minute mark for KEK.
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>>165826723

Fuck, forgot the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oA9IRIuX3o
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>can run dark souls II and III without a single issue
>dasI becomes a slideshow with constant freezes even when putting everything on low in dsfix

ok
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>>165826978
Get a better compooter nerd
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>>165826978
>>165827019

DaS1 has horrible optimization but I have a friend who had that problem and fixed it by fucking around with the configs.

So if you can run DS3 no problem then you absolutely can make DS1 run at least decently
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>>165826808
kekkles
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Where do i go from here? My zwei barely scales with stats anymore.
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>>165827290
More endurance and adaptability
>>
Why am I so fucking bad in DS 3?

In PvP I get fucking smacked by even NPC's. Even in PvE I can't kill most of enemies or most of bosses without co-op.-.-
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>>165827437
stop using faggot smiley faces and you'll probably improve
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>>165827437
Well,how many hours do you have? And what's your setup? I also recommend you finding your favorite and weapon class you're best at.
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>waste a branch on last shrine of amana bonfire
>it's just a locked fucking door
thanks from
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>>165827437

Protip: get a straight sword.
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>>165827510
93
What do you mean by setup?
I don't have any favorite class or weapon because no matter what I use some monster or guy kills me gorillions of times when using that weapon. Tried sorcerer and pyro but it's boring. Used so far quality build for main character.
>>165827572
I tried a lot of weapons and I don't like any.
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>>165827638
Show your build. I was absolutely terrible at das3 until I found my favorite weapon class; spears. I still am very bad even with the most meta and easy weps. But I can destroy with polearms. I recommend you just try sl120 and try a weapon class that matches your playstyle
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>>165827557
talk to the milfanito outside demon of songs boss fog if you havent already then get max hollowing and the door will open
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>>165827290
Endurance to swing more, Adaptability to roll harder.
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>>165827721
Every weapons for me feels like they have major downsides so I can't decide what to use.
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>>165827956
What are you using as your weapon?
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How do you think she would react if you just groped her out of nowhere?
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>>165828678
shes literally there to serve you
go nuts
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>>165828639
Used everything, Uchigatana, Dark Sword, profaned greatsword, Dragonslayer spear and nothing really fits me, I die with everything and struggle 99% of time against everything.
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>>165828983
>I die with everything and struggle 99% of time against everything
go back to angry birds
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L O N D O R
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>>165828983
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/136224

First of all, your build is unoptimized. What is your starting class? The basics of this game are just learning how to space and learning how to punish. The build I posted is minmaxed for quality along with the armor, this should give you a slight edge in fights pve and pve: but I reckon that that's the least of your problems.

What platform are you? If you're pc I can spar with you and teach you some basics.
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>>165829197
Warrior Can't respect until I start another walkthrough.

I'm on PC.
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>>165828983
Have you tried learning the game instead of switching weapons and complaining while getting carried by phantoms?
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>>165829364
"Learning game" how? And no I didn't.
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>>165829327
Oh, that's the perfect class. I recommend you start using this setup of rings and items. If you want, I can co op with you until you reach rosaria for respeccs and then we can spar in arena if you want or red phantom summons.
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>>165826808
haha
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>>165829459
As I said, I need to complete the game and then respec there's no other way.

I use similar setup of rings.
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im new to souls. Is the game more balanced around pve or pvp?
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Starting a pyro in ds3. Never played a caster before. Any advice?
Which spells do I use? Will I need melee or is full -ranged build viable?
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>>165829404
By playing it the way it's supposed to be played instead of summoning help you absolute fucking retard.
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>>165829404
There is a lesson in every death.
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>>165829618
No there isn't.
>>165829614
Fuck off nigger.
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>>165829545
http://steamcommunity.com/id/N3opolitan/

Here's my steam if you decide that you're up for some sparring. I can give you pointers that are more accurate if I can see how you fight.
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>>165829562
neither
if it was balanced around pve straight swords and bleed wouldnt be as hilariously broken as they are
if it was balanced around pvp casters wouldnt need two rings to do damage and dark would be worth a shit
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First time playing that game. After the first boss there a bunch of eggs asking for warmth.
Plz tell me I can sit on them or something?
Or will I be able to come back later?
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>>165829721
Not really sure how this will help but whatever.
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>>165828678
She says multiple times that she exists purely to serve you, which apparently includes going so far as to literally end the world together. I doubt she'd mind if the Ashen One took out his/her sexual frustrations on her body, since she's used to literally being hacked to death to test how much damage a new weapon does.
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my system got fucked and i was wondering if can i just paste my save files into DaS3 save folder or is there something i should do first, by that i mean if i should be in offline mode or something?
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>>165829721
>every /dsg/ profile ever
>private
>anime or FotM game avatar
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>>165795221
I killed gwin and now im back in the cell? wtf? Why did it reset my game i still have so much shit to do
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>>165829567
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/136227

Here's an optimized pyro build, feel free to change it up. If you're gonna go all ranged, you're not gonna have a good time in pvp. If you're going all spell then at least do the pyro blackflame combo. Which is blackflame->combustion(using parting flame), because parting flame gives moves a mini combustion and you'll end up doing 800+ damage in a combo. Black serpent has great tracking and combos with vestiges and most other spells. Feel free to add a talisman for miracles if you want. Fire surge is great for poking enemies down.
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>>165830051
WTF now my game reset OMFG. Can I go back?
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>>165829932
I'll try to give you pointers when we pvp. But first, just choose a random weapon that seems cool to you or is the most fun.
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>>165830206
Welcom to New Game+
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>>165829693
>No there isn't.
Ok, maybe not *every* death, but quite a lot. In Dark Souls most deaths are the players fault, so the player can walk away with some kind of lesson from it to get a little better.

If you blame the game for "cheating" every time you die, you'll probably never learn and would be best playing something else.

>>165830206
Nope, start again, but harder.
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>>165829746
Answer me plz, I want to be friend with the crows !
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>>165830265
Propably Uchi, since I used this crap most of time.
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>tfw no bloodborne on PC
I'm on the verge of buying a ps4. What other games can I get? I need more than blooborne to justify it.

Also is demons souls on the ps4?
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>>165830206
Hahaha.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Enjoy your stay
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>>165830334
Is it a lot harder?
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>>165829746
You can trade items with them.
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>>165830390

It's not really harder because your character is also more powerful.
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>>165830390
Eh. It's just that the enemies get more health and you more souls from them. First iterations pretty inconsitent but every other from then is a static increase.
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>>165830474
I was trying to get every item in the game but I just made it tons harder on myself I guess
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>>165830365
Okay, the earliest pointers is the with any Kat, running r1 is your best attack. If you play in annoying playstyle which is a passive guy who runs left and right waiting for a chance to get a running r1 in then that is the most optimal way but is the most boring. A more fun playstyle is to aggressively use running r1,rolling r1 and mix it up with a hold (either l2r1 for the slash or l2r2 for the parry). Your r2s are crap, don't bother much with them.

Shields are the bane of all kats, so I recommend you have a human pine resin or a dark uchi for the turtles.
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>>165830491
>>165830370
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>>165830635
You need NG++ for every item anyway
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For a sorcerer, what kind of stats do I want for NG
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>>165830569
Oh and You lose all of your Embers.
You lose all of your Keys except for the Master Key.
You lose all of your Bonfire Items except for the Bottomless Box.You lose the Orange Charred Ring and the Covenant of Artorias ring.
Domhnall of Zena sells you Gwyn's armor, the Great Lord's Set.
You can offer the Soul of Gwyn, Lord of Cinder at the Altar of Sunlight as a rank +1 member of the Warrior of Sunlight covenant to receive the Sunlight Spear miracle.
Rite of Kindling is removed; however, kindled bonfires retain their status.
You cannot level up until you get to Firelink Shrine, so try not to lose the souls received from Gwyn, Lord of Cinder before you get there.
You can now be infected with Gravelord Black Phantoms, in NG+ or higher
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>>165830491
Adorable
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Does anyone have that clip of the bloodborne scream that appears in the middle of no where? There's a guy just walking around and suddenly there's a loud scream out of no where.
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I've played DkS3 extensively for a month after release, and just now came back to play the DLC.

I have no idea what's are the meta weapons right now and apparently poise is back during hyperarmor or something. Could someone bring me up to speed on what the fuck's up right now?

My main character is SL100 Black Knight Glaive user.
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>>165830657
That's what I do but not like this helps. Most use Greatswords which have hyperarmor. Didn't see much shields users but most can easily parry my attack.
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In my past 5 invasions in the woods I haven't seen a single host. All the worlds were normal with no enemies killed, with all bonfires unlit, with no host in them as far as I could find. BCd out every time, it wasn't the same host either.

In the very last one I found a single gold phantom. H ewas standing at the boss fog, with no host nearby. Like 2 minutes after killing the phantom, the host somehow died.

Is something going on?
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>>165830942
Your game is haunted.
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>>165830202
>that garbage
>optimized
>30VIG
>optimized
>actually wasting stats on witch locks
>optimized
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>>165829693
>fucking shitter gets to level 124 and still sucks
>calls me a nigger
git gud
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What level can I get my first consumable soul for duping?
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>>165828678
Even when you give her eyes and she gets some part of her personality back she still follows your every wish and only wants to serve you. She's probably the biggest waifu bait in series because she's loyal to you exclusively instead of some mission like it was with previous level up girls. Hell, her very last dialogue addresses to you as well.
If anything, she's going to be happy.
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>>165796310
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>>165830939
The thing is about greatswords,you can threaten their attacks with a hold because they don't know if it's gonna be a parry or an attack, it makes most players "stutter" in their attacks and is great for mixups. But greatswords are an amazing weapon class with their hyperarmor,damage, speed. Maybe try the chaosblade if you don't wanna be meta or washing pole if you don't care, but be warned that you will get more point downs. Your best bet is to outspace most weapons and run in for the attacks. Leo ring works great with a running r1 heavy player solely for those counter hits
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>use a raw halberd +2 at base stats required to use it 2h
>fight some dude in pvp
>91 damage per hit counter damage no leo ring

>decide to try out this astora sword I have, made it raw because I heard that's a good meme
>dont even have the faith required to wield it, lmao who cares
>make it +1 because I dont have titanite shards
>it hits for 125 per hit, not even a counter
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>>165831653
>a weapon designed to be used raw is better than a weapon designed for scaling
the revelation
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>>165831461
Tried Chaos Blade and usually people tend to roll more when I land attack, since it counts as hit and I lose hp.
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>>165831757
If you don't like any weapons and don't want to practice long enough to stop sucking dick, why do you even bother playing this game?
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>>165797114
Well with the PvP watchdog I can see the nodes as they connect, and I'm getting some PvP action again.

Not nearly as much as it was back then, but hey it's something.
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>>165831905
use dscm as well
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>>165831841
If I only knew which weapon to pick then maybe I would try practicing but I easily get demotivated, especially when some mob/player kick my ass so hard.
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>>165831727
>halberd is a heavier weapon with much higher stat investment required
>even upgraded it more
>slower with less reach

>the straight sword was DESIGNED to hit for more damage though so it's fine
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>>165831757
And you don't wanna be a metafag with the washingpole huh? Don't worry, I'll practice with you some when I wake.
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If I wanted to make a normal mode stomper where i 1 shot everything basically what class would i make?
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>>165832058
raw ass caps at 300 AR
halberd goes to like 450-500
the problem is?
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>>165832118
Washingpole is ultra faggotry like Estus and I don't really enjoy being cancer.
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>>165832016
do you like big swords? small swords? weeb shit? spears? What do you like aesthetically? There's no way you bought the game without liking the setting at all, right?
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>>165832058
>halberd has less reach then ss

Nigga what are you on?
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>>165832184
I guess Dragonslayer Spear, Dragonslayer Greataxe, Uchigatana since I used it in all DS's and couple of straight swords but I suck with them. I don't really enjoy using greatswords or ugs, halbers or any magic/pyromancy.
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>>165832260
have you ever actually used these weapons?
Whenever you swing your straight sword onehanded your character takes a huge step forward with each step, making the effective range much longer than the halberds stabs
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>>165832340
Well just use them. Spear is a great and fun weapon in both pvp and pve, try to take full advantage of the moveset and not be too predictable and you'll be fine.
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>spears in ds3 now are almost as fast as they were in DS1
WHAT THE FUUUCK
When they were buffed so much?
With gargoyle flame spear it's like i'm holding a demon spear or MBH all over again.
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>>165832540
Because from learned nothing from the things DaS2 did right and memezaki is a faggot who shat all over the poor game
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>>165832454
>not predictinble with spear
rather hard when it can only thrust forward anyway some faggot with halberd stomped me.
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>>165832605
Play unlocked and use movement keys to catch people
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>>165831727
Why do people do that? I get invaded all the time, sometimes by multiple sources (faithful, reds, mads) and sometimes I even manage to defeat them, it's part of the experience. I don't know what people expect when they start playing the THIRD game of the series, when the past games were just like this.
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>>165832595
>things DaS2 did right
Spears were broken as shit in DS2 as well
Overall balance in DS2 was garbage and i'm glad we're gone to a more polished version of DS1-like balance instead with DS3.
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>>165832935
Show me a single arena or boss fight where spears are overpowered in das2
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>>165833051
take silverblack spear
buff it with dark weapon
spam running attacks because wondrous DS2 netcode will allow you to get a hit in even if opponent is 10 meters away for 500 damage per hit
bitchslap them if they try to parry
it's no rocket science
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>>165833202
>dark weapon
>lag
yeah insert any weapon here faggot
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>>165832759
Yeah whatever like that even works. barely hit a guy twice time while he fucked me over with some shitty mace.
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>>165832903
people host in ds3 expecting easy frags
when instead of that they get someone who specifically minmaxed into oblivion to stomp them into dirt their poor ego can't handle this
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>>165833202
>netcode will allow you to get a hit in even if opponent is 10 meters away
at least they kept this feature for das3
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>>165833297
yes, it does
are you here to make shitty excuses for being bad or something?
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Crown of dusk or crown of the dark sun for sorcerer?
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>>165833395
nah
ds2 lag a special thing among the entire franchise
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>>165833416
Guess I am bad since it doesn't work for me.
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>>165833475
>5 miles apart from opponent
>same isp
>both check our internet speeds beforehand
>still lag our asses off
truly a magical feature
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>>165833475
got any different webms? i've seen this example a billion times
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>>165833514
Yes, you are, what the fuck is your problem? You come here and keep bitching how every weapon is shit and nothing works, what do you think?
>>165833581
>what is routing
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>>165833601
i have another
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>>165833601
i don't play that shitfest of a game lately so i don't make a lot of webms of it
but during my last playthrough virtually every second belltower match was like this
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>>165833475
>using jester's top
faggot got what he deserved
>>165833683
i invaded belltower about twenty times yesterday and had 0 laggy garbage
try not living in south africa
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>>165833674
DS2 is truly a special child among souls games.
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What determines how many souls you get for killing osmeone in DS3?

I just killed a gold phantom with friede scythes at SL and got 22k souls for it
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Can anyone on PC help with ornstein and smouth on NG+?
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>>165833674
>>165833683
but this can also happen in 3
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>>165833674
>those disgusting, piss poor scythe movesets in ds2
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>>165833776
I think it's dependant on SL.
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>>165833621
>try that get parried
sure it does work.
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>>165832540

Are they good for PvE yet, good enough to compete with straight swords? I haven't played with patched spears.
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>>165833884
I forgot to actually type the number, I'm at Sl25.

Can I really invade people who drop 22k souls already?
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>>165834158
If he was a summon he could have been passworded, which means his level doesn't technically matter, did he have a blue square next to his HP bar?
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>>165833674
how dare you portray best game like this
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>>165821263
What pants are those? Can't recognize for shit.
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>>165834158
Hang on the wiki says the following:
The amount of souls gained by the phantom post boss fight appears to be 25% of the boss's normal reward (Tested with lord of cinder)
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>>165834332
And for invading rather then co-oping:
For killing an invader, the host receives 15% of the souls required for the invader's most recent level-up (rounded down).
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>>165834331

Darkwraith.
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>>165834158
its based off of held souls
so if he summoned a twink or downscaled buttbuddy they couldve held hundreds of thousands, and you hot a percentage of what they had
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>>165834438
And to complete the triforce:
For killing the host of another world, invaders receive 4% of the souls required for the host's most recent level-up (rounded down)
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>>165834596
>Dark Souls Facebook memes

Christ, when I was crying in 5-2 I never thought I'd see the day when these games got this fucking mainstream.

Time to kill myself.
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>get ds3
>go in totally blind
>get undead bone shard
>think its area specific estus buff
>happyly continue playing
>notice that my estus feels crappy
>oh hey an old firekeeper
>only sells miracle stuff
>dissapointed and confused
>wonder how to upgrade my estus
>give up and continue
>get trough catacombs
>say fuck it and use a bone shard
>feel like an idiot
>go to /dsg/ to be laughted at and mocked
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iN ng+ WHY ARE THERE RANDOM KNIGHTS WITH A RED AURA On them?
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>>165834779
haha noob
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>>165834779
Did you not play DaS2.

Lucky fuck.
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>>165834780
DS2?
Why not?
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>>165834779
Can you actually use it? Didn't noticed that.
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Can you join a covenant using Cheat Engine in DS3?
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>>165834780
In ds1 you probably got infected by a ravelord servant.If you're unlucky it'll last forever.
Unless it's ds2 then they just appear.
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>invade a world
>host and two phantoms are trying to gank hodrick presumably because they thought it's a player
>watch them as hodrick oneshots one after the other ending with the host

l m a o
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Why is using cheat engine to dupe items retarded

or am I retarded
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>>165835173
its just (You)
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>>165833202
Dark souls 2 pvp looks so fucking bad it's impossible to go back to. Fucking floating around and large phantom hits being the norm. Jesus christ.
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>Loved Dark Souls 10/10 perfect game
>Thought Dark Souls 2 was okay, main director wasnt on it so it was to be expected
>Couldnt play DS3 on release due to obligations and life
>Completely drop out of any Blood Borne/DS3 discussions so I dont spoil myself
>Buy DS3 today on humble bundle on sale because I got hella sick and nothing else to do
>First hour
>Crystal Lizard launches untelegraphed attacks
>First Boss is a humanoid that punishes intuitive horizontal dodges on vertical attacks with by rotating on the spot and tracking you mid-swing killing the entire gravity of the situation
>First level is basically just MEMBER DARK SOULS? MEMBER CRATE SKELETONS? MEMBER BRIDGE DRAGON? YOU LOVE THIS DONT YOU ISNT THIS WHAT YOU WANT

d-does it get better
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>>165835290
It get better if you stop gagging on giant dicks
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>>165835290
it gets far, far worse
every level has at least 2 ds1 rehashes or direct references
>>
So wait, were some spells locked to a gender in DeS? Because in DaS the Rapport spell mentions gender, but nothing is gender-locked, so was it a feature they were carrying over and then scrapped or what?
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>>165835290
It's a faster game so get used to it. It has great boss fights and pretty fun areas.
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>>165835290
Also you should probably learn not to roll too early.
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>>165835051
Why would you?
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>>165835793
accidentally fucked up moundmakers, dont really feel like going into another ng+ just to start them
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>>165835673
so is it like monster hunter wher you get i frames and you can roll through a hit if you time it right
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How in the fuck
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>>165835890

Try wings.
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>>165835828
Did you miss the cage and made Sirris mad later?
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>>165835828
?
the only way to fuck up mound makers is if you both dont get it by getting in the cage and fuck up sirris' quest before killing hodrick
are you seriously that much of an idiot
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>>165835857
Yes. It's been like that in the whole series though. It's very hard to do that against beam-like attacks or explosions though.
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Some dude had 10 shots of crystal soul sphere with logans catalyst. I only have 2, wtf?
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>>165835085
how do i fix it?
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Hi guys, could anyone share the webm or youtube link of gundyr boosted into super speed by CE?
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>>165835993
>sphere

>>165836115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvk3LlYcLOs
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>>165835993
NG+ and so on maybe.
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>>165836073
what game are you talking about retard
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>>165835890
Das2 channeling Bloodborne?
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>>165836236
more like ds2 channeling king's field, judging by his visuals
kek
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Aww yeah, killed the last boss in DS3.

Is there something I should do before beginning journey 2?
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>>165836214
Thank you!
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how the FUCK do you get past the wolves in AoA? There's like fourty of them and one extra big fucker too
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>>165836318
>>165836236

I don't get it
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>>165836318
oh, snap!
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>>165836451
Killing them usually does the job.
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>>165836458
hes referencing the low graphics settings and resolution bc kings field was a psx game that looked like absolute ass
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>>165836451
take it slow, they will fuck you up if you try to rush them
they have the best wolf AI i've seen in games
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>>165836384
Do Archdragon Peak and the DLC if you haven't already
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>>165836384
kill all npcs
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>>165836073
Depends.
DS1 you find the summon sign of the servant and fight him to the death until he dies. Or you die in your world. Or you switch areas.
DS2. Hahahahahaha. They're in for good and won't stop harassing you.
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When's the next DLC coming out?
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>>165836703
Never, hopefully. I'm tired of the pay2win nature in the DLC weaponry.
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>>165836703
Yes.
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>>165836529
actually it's the same as the bony dogs but thanks
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>>165835952
>>165835936
i rushed all bosses and the second i killed aldrich i realized what i had done
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>>165836703
Soon™
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Can someone explain to me what the fuck a "season pass" is and if I should get one?
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>>165837090
You get all the dlc if you buy a pass.
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>>165837090
Two DLCs for the price of one and a half or something
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>>165836824
>pay2win
The dlc isn't pay 2 win at all, washing pole and BKS+SS are still the best builds in the game.
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>>165837154
>>165837184
Oh ok thanks. Does this imply that there will be another "season" of DLC after the next one gets released?
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>>165836562
Did that before Yhorm.
>>165836612
Well, that's dark, I already killed Yuria for her katana.
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>>165836885
Killing Aldrich makes Sirris place a sign before Greatwood fog gate. Did you make her upset is the relevant part.
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>>165836073
nigger you dont fix something thats supposed to be there, if its dark souls 2 thats just part of ng+
some bosses also have additional reds to fuck with you
have fun
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>>165837275
There's only supposed to be 2, last one was 15 USD, next is 25. The season pass is either 20 or 25.
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>>165837275
Probably not, only if they pull a scholar on us
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>>165837442
Scholar was the shit though. The DLC saved DaS2
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>>165837364
>next is 25

Hopefully that means a way bigger dlc. I also heard we will get at least one new map for the arena.
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>trying to fight the pursuer as a fucking sorcerer

This is bullshit
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I killed someone in anor londo after i killed the princess and now the "firekeeper is missing" wtf does that mean? Why cant i warp out of here?
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>>165837642
>kill firekeeper
GUYS WTF WHERE IS THE BONFIRE GONE1?!?!!?!
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>>165837507
There was one in the game files
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>>165837642
Go to another bonfire. You killed the Darkmoon Blade firekeeper.
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>>165837642
Why should they offer their services for a traitor.
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I just beat DS1, why were there zombies everywhere lol? This game makes no sense.
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>>165837821
I know, right? What a retarded game. Zombies are so overdone.
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>>165837761
Found the delusional.
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>>165837723
Does this mean i can never use that bonfire again?
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>>165837908
I think you can still warp to it, just not from it.
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>>165837821
ROFL, so poorly made, RIGHT?! xDDD


>>165837908
Yes. You dun goofed big time.
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ds2 - the heide knight spear says it does thrust/strike damage. when does the strike damage come into play, or is that some typo?
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>>165838106

The rolling attacks do strike damage IIRC.
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Do we have a DS3 buildlist with builds that are up-to-date from the latest DLC? Mugenmonkey is filled with stuff from launch
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>>165795221
Anyone willing to help with NG+ Gargoyles in DaSII SM 532k on PS4 im a little drunk so some patience is appreciated
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>>165835290
>its another "references and series tropes make the game bad" shitpost
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>>165838316
What build are you interested in?
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>>165838106
Does the spear have sweep attack?

If so, the shaft does strike damage.
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Finally, a more or less clear picture of the mural
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>>165838448
im looking to make like three builds, one at SL 80, one at 100 and one at 120. One is gonna be a boring quality 40/40 build, the other is gonna be some meme-bleed-luck build and for the third, i don't really know yet.

I just wanted to look at the current ring&weapon setups most people use for such builds
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>>165838512
Pretty neat. You got two snakes, four hollows/skeletons and two women(at least one). One of the women is holding a sword thing.
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>>165838721
there's also apparently a barely visible jap text below calling them stabber and crusher
stabber is probably Yuria as she wields a sword capable of stabbing through anything
crusher is probably the third sister so rejoice if we get fist weapon in second DLC
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why not post the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17Im7GLJlSc
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>>165838787
Oh yeah it looks like one of them is stabbing a snake while the other one is crushing a snake with her hand.
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>fist weapon with a moveset as good as Friede's Greatscythe
Pls deliver Miayzaki
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Can I reset achievement progress in Dark Souls 1 in steam because I got achievements from someone dropping me items and I want to earn them legit?
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>>165838861
>kikevidya
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>>165839009
His videos are pretty kino desu
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>>165838512
Anon, what am I looking at?
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>>165839009
y'all were watching the video anyway and and only repeat what he said
this is ridiculous
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>>165839065
Mural is Friede's boss room.
Most likely depicts her sisters killing primordial serpents.
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>>165838787
I thought Friede was the last sister, is there still one missing?
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>>165839009
>>>/v/
>>>/reddit/
crossbarding as /v/ermin for the purpose of shitposting results in a 2 week ban
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>>165839053
>kino

faggot
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>>165838951
>DLC2
>fist weapon which parties while offhanded but allows you to use the right hand weapon art with L1 button
>built in hp regen
>but is completely unremarkable when used as an actual weapon
You rike?
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>>165839145
>parties
Fuck
Parrys*
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>>165838951
>fistweapon
>on your feet
>you can now kick instead of punch
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>>165838713
Quality
>start warrior, life ring & fap ring fill rest with whatever
>whatever weapon it's fucking quality lmao
Bleed
>same setup as quality with exception that you need to sacrifice END/VIG to get the most damage
>30 luck, another 10 from 2 hollow weapons in hand
>warden twinblades, duo katana, anri's ss, carthus balanced sword, corvian scythe
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>>165839110
There's Elfriede, Yuria and Liliane.
Liliane's miracles are the edgiest shit in entire DS3, like the one that designed to make user kill himself.
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>>165839074
There's a difference between talking about something in the game, and giving ad revenue to a plagiarist.

>>165839108
>the Sable Church serves Kaathe
>they would kill him

>>165839110
Yuria you meet after Yoel dies
Liliane is mentioned in the description for Londor Braille Divine Tome
Friede is the boss of DLC1
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>>165839367
>Liliane's miracles are the edgiest shit in entire DS3
wat? Which ones do you mean
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>>165839295
>we will fight her
>she fights like some fighter character, using her fists and legs
>has a leg choke move
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>>165839110
You meet Yuria in Firelink, Friede in Painted World and Liliane is only visible in the ending cutscene for lord of hollows ending.
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Last night, I figure out something to cool to do for falling asleep.
I mentally travel from bonfire to bonfire, slowly walking while trying to remember as many details as possible of the scenery.
I started at the Undead Asylum and got to the Hellkite Dragon bonfire, before falling asleep.

Have you ever done this?
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>>165838318
Onegai Senpai they're raping my ass? I Need HELP
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>>165839295
tae-kwon-do movesets would actually be pretty neat.
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>>165839425
Liliane is the miracle user of Sable Church, in contrast to her sisters using sorcery and pyromancies. She recounts tales that portray the suffering and conflict of Hollows. Atonement is a londor miracle specifically designed to let the londor exiles kill themselves and end their journeys. There's also edgy dark buff and a miracle that ""blesses"" corpses, making them explode.
On edge-o-meter she far surpasses her sisters.
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>>165838318
I really hate people who thinks that when they drink, they're entitled to "patience", understanding and tolerance from others for their obnoxious/annoying behavior.
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>dying exploring the swamp area of 3-2 tower of latria

jesus christ this is a long fucking walk
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>>165839881
i never said I was "entitled" to shit, but im level 87 trying for the covetous gold serpent ring and i keep getting 3 hit. I was merely asking for assistance.
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>>165824834

HOW DARE YOU. THIS GAME NEEDS BERSERK REFERENCES, THEY ARE TASTEFUL AND SUBTLE
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>>165839389
>Sable Church serves Kaathe
In japanese dialogues Yuria tells that she's sorry she couldn't finish Kaathe's dying wish if you kill her.
Given that Sable Church is one big death cult, killing the person they worship ain't really something outstanding.
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>>165795221
>tfw can't kill Dancer
why
why?
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>>165840270
use dark hand
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>>165840270
>buy dark hand
>fist fuck her repeatedly

You're welcome, anon. Good luck.
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>>165840270
fisting
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Which spells to buy as pyro?
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>>165840252
>jap text
>when there's only english voice-over
whoa there vaati
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>>165840440
all of them
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This isn't bloodborne, stop dodging every five seconds you insufferable skeleton
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>>165840270
>>165840348
>>165840362
fuck if I knew to look for that. wew. I guess I'll boot up and see if Yuria's around. I remember finding Yoel dead a long time ago but I had never talked to him once he got there (big mistake I see) and never got any bonuses from him.
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>>165840715
In that case, you's fucked, you can't get the dark hand.
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>>165840624
>Friede uses the same style of dodging
>she also wields paired weapons
>she uses black flame pyromancies which were discovered by Carthus gravewardens
>she's connected to the Dark too
but what does this mean
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>>165840624
>This isn't bloodborne
>he says this while playing in reussed assets from BB: The area
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>>165838713
If you're going quality purely for conventional weaponry or if you're trying to be at a low level, use warrior.

If you're going for quality because you just want versatility in general, use mercenary. Get two attunement slots and 10/10 int/faith. With the crystal chime in your right and a priestess ring, you can cast magic shield and replenishment, then swap out the priestess ring for the sun princess ring. If you don't have a shield, you can get a righthanded chime instead to cast blessed weapon instead of magic shield (you'll have 10 int anyway though because the mercenary starts out with that much, and is the best class for this even if you don't use it). If you get the darkmoon ring, you can also attune tears of denial before a fight then unequip the ring since it has infinite duration, but it takes too long to do in the arena. You save two points of luck and one point of vitality compared to the warrior.

If you want to do that same thing but need more vitality for some reason, use the knight. You save 2 luck points.

For non quality, gargoyle flame spear and twin prince's greatsword scale fairly well if you use 26/40 (26*1.5=39 twohanded; 27 is 40.5 aka 40) with 20 to 25 int OR faith (for some reason splitting the difference gives less AR), which is around the same amount of investment as 40/40 for access to stuff like bountiful light and great heal or the upper level farron spells and pyromancies like warmth. I would suggest knight since you need a little poise for the GS and should be planning to use at least one attunement slot if not two. On top of that, you ccan't use luck at all with this. Hardswap weapons as needed, both weigh 9.5.

The best way to bleed in pvp is warrior with twin katanas. More of a pve thing though.

The best meme is allcaster; spells/stats may vary but use regen, darts, and black flame with sage +2, witch's, and bellowing rings.
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/136290
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Oh, shit, I should get the DLC before New Game+
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>>165826069
Ture enough but there are not going to be more Dark Souls games. The general will have to adapt or die. The best way to adapt is to become the souls-like general since souls-like is basically becoming a genre itself, similar o MonHon inspiring the hunter genre.
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>>165840715
Yeah, I thought that Yoel guy was creepy so stopped talking to him. After a while I came back and he was dead with no explanation. I see mentions of Yuria but never met her in game.
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>>165840624
>you will never be as edgy as carthus shotel skeletons

First Chester could throw multiple knives, now there's this guy doing it while jumping
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>>165841091
You can use the crow quills knives
:^)
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>>165841090
Yoel automatically dies if you go too far into Catacombs of Carthus
Get all his levels before then
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>>165840794
You're onto something, anon.
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>>165840440
Flame surge, black flame, and black serpent are probably the best pyromancies, in that order. You should also have a nuke like CBV of GCFO.
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>tfw there are people in this very thread who believe Manus is the Furtive Pygmy
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>>165841253
>there are people in this very thread who give money to Blizzard and play Overwatch
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>>165840715
>>165840791
darkwraiths drop it
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>>165841393
Then there is hope...
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>>165841393
Only in 1.
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>>165841328
>there are people in this very thread posting on the notorious hacker website.... 4chen
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>>165841393
Yeah, in the original, do they in DS3?
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>>165841393
No, they don't.
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Miyazaki has put you in charge of developing covenants for DS4

What are the covenants, and how are they different? What do you change from the way they worked before?
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>>165841527
>>165841624
>>165841645
Pretty sure they have for me
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>>165841752
I've checked two wikis. No mention of dark hand being dropable.
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>>165841740
No covenants. You get a REO, WSS and RSS from different NPCs or locations.
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>>165841859
one of those wikis didn't even have DLC weapons last I checked, and the other is fextralife
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Does your bloodstain disappear in Demon's Souls if you quit out of the game or warp back to the Nexus?

I've been searching the area I've died in for a while and can't find it.
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is the dark hand really better for dancer than bleed?

>>165841875
why no blue eye though?
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>>165833943

Try not R1 spamming and the crying afterwards you predictable piece of shit. Try using a shield, try using an offhand weapon, try using an offhand xbow, learn how to fucking outspace people, learn how to turtlepoke backstab, try not being a fucking shitter and gitting gud.

Spears are my favorite weapon class in the game and I unironically want to put your head on my LK long spear right now. I'll never get over how fucking arrogant shitters can be sometimes with their victim complex "uhhhh I don't suck it's the weapon d-don't blame me guys I'm real good it's the game's fault!" ffs kid...
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>>165841925
Yeah, I see now that these wikis are quite dated. There are no drop rates on wikia.

What's wrong with fextralife?
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>>165842023
>is the dark hand really better for dancer than bleed?

Yes, if you can get it.

It requires nothing but the dark hand.
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>>165842023
>is the dark hand really better for dancer than bleed?

Tested myself, and yes, it's much better. Usually more damage by the time you face her and way faster moveset with low stamina usage.
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>>165842006

I don't think so. The bloodstain will exist until you touch it.
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I'm torn--I've done pure Dex before, I've done pure Pyromancy before--and now I want to try Chaos/Pyro combo. The crux of the biscuit is: Do I go Dex for Chaos Blade or leave it 14/14 for Chaos Uchi? I've used Katanas in all the other games but never in DaS.

Opinions?
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>>165842006
Did you die from a fall? Sometimes these fuck with your stain and make it unreachable in DeS and 1.

>>165842023
Just make using the REO make you more likely to be targeted by it.
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>>165833382
>minmaxed
is poison really more efficient than 27 vig and 26 end with flame arc and raw astora? I've always thought it looks fun at least.

>tfw my settlement twink doubles as an antitwink in highwall since I'm on ng+ and left dancer alive
>tfw level 6 invaders can get put up against my level 26
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>>165842317
I should clarify--I've never MAINED Katana in any of the games, but have used them. I never touched in them in DaS,
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Mace description says:
>Iron hammer designed for use in battle. A common weapon for clerics.
>This bladeless strike weapon is effective against most foes, and can break the guard of a shield.

Are there any specifics anywhere on how much extra stamina damage it does on shields? Like is there some kind of modifier like 1.5x or something on stamina damage from strike damage type weapons? Best I can tell is that it seems like if I were to break the guard of someone with 3 hits I'd do it with only 2 with the mace.
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>>165841740
Sunbro covenant is the only co-op covenant.
Darkwraith works like always.
Darkmoon targets people who used a REO and won, indictments aren't necessary (but maybe prioritize).
[Some kind of area] Guardian covenant invades people in a particular area, number of invaders matches number of phantoms+host to avoid DS3 ganksquad imbalance.

These are all covenants, keep shit simple.
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>>165842325
No I died to those weird centipedes with human faces in the swamp on the tower of latria, I did die close to a wall so maybe its just clipped inside there or something
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>>165842317
chaos blade, and use 45 dex for cast speed
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>general still includes demon's souls in the title because of that one game not even 10% of the people posting here has played

get fucking real
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>>165842317
45 dex Chaos blade pyro is one of the most popular meta setups. Chaos blade is just incredibly strong and with 45 dex and an ascended pyro hand you can do very fast BFs. For PvE it's also great because of the huge damage those have and chaos blade destroys anything that bleeds
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>>165842507
Aye siwmae, a very astute and poignant answer.
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>>165842115
>what's wrong with kekstra
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>>165842356
>is poison really more efficient than 27 vig and 26 end with flame arc and raw astora
there's no reason to get your end so high for low level invasions
raw astora is overrated, i'd rather use dragonslayer axe with twice as much damage, dark hand which is fast as fuck or ghri spear which has godly roll catches and poison
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>>165842562
It also includes Bloodborne, even though it has it's own general and King's Field.

So kindly go fuck yourself.
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>>165842576
And you as well.
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>>165842562
>king's field

no, you get real
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>>165842673
Oh, I see...
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>>165841740
Bring back every covenant from DS1 besides the Princess Guard.
Bring back the Way of Blue and Mound Makers.
Darkmoons function as blue spirits.
Covenants give a LOT more rewards; like multiple different sets of srmors, a bunch of weapons, and multiple spells to fit every playstyle.
Add an "elite" covenant item that gives a transformation effect like Kos Parasite that gives a unique moveset when paired with any of that covenants weapons.
Spirits can now boss invade on any bosses that share their allegiance (chaos servants can invade the Old Demon King, for example)
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>>165842848
Exactly
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There should be a Dark Souls general, and then a Sony franchise ripoff general.
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>>165842931
Holy shit, why is this allowed?
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>>165842931
>Weakness; Taking hits
>>
>Tower of Latria
>Jailers splosion knocks me to the ground
>spamming roll to get away
>before I can even act their ball of freezeing you place hits me
>grabs me for kill

why is this allowed
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>>165840478
The Jap version has jap subs m8. Whether you consider those as more or less canon than the English ones is up to you.
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>>165842986
dark souls is already a ripoff tho
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>>165841740
In general: if a white/yellow phantom dies, you have a 10-minute cooldown before you can summon another

White summons: make them time out and/or reduced Estus, to force them to be more careful and be harder to maintain for ganks; timing out or BC-ing is the same as dying, host is put into summon cooldown

Red invaders: reds can no longer hurt each other if equipped with a special covenant ring (you can un-equip it for FCs)

Purples: let them earn a shackle by beating the area boss if summoned through red sign (can't hurt host and vice versa once inside room), let them chase hosts into boss room if invading (will take increased damage while in boss room, has time limit inside boss room before being automatically banished)

WoB and Blue Sentinels: increase level range, make them a single covenant that focuses on helping each other (add covenant ring that will toggle into "help others" mode, not wearing ring is default "help me" mode)

DMB: make it like it was in DaS1, focus on invading sinners; change the color to something that isn't blue

Sunbros: remove the invasion aspect of it, add a smaller covenant item that they get for defeating invaders (they work like a reverse Forked Pale Tongue, combine multiples to get a Sunlight Medal), so that there's a reward for doing more than just killing the area boss

Area covenants: don't make them self-defeating (e.g., you invade people in the same area where they're trying to join), put the covenant joining area in a separate optional area; maybe also bring back Rat covenant but don't make the defending area optional or at least make the rewards more worthwhile

Bring back CoC, Gravelording, maybe also add a dedicated arena covenant that functions like DaS2 Brotherhood of Blood and WoB
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>>165842931

We dumping fextra screencaps now? Literally took this one just now.
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>>165843079
Because admins are too busy spamming their site everywhere so search engines will show them as first result
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>>165843131
Prepare to die

Or something like that
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>>165843303
lmfao can confirm, she's blind
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>>165843238
Gravelording was kinda dull though. How would you fix it?
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>>165843432
Be able to affect NG games
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>>165829197
I come from /gsg/ and just want to say this community is helpful as FUCK when it comes to teaching new players the ropes.

Over by us it's all "git gud" or just complete derision. No one's actually helpful or even talks about games anymore. It's been a literal shitshow for months now.

Please accept me into your club /dsg/
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>>165843516
That doesn't solve the issue the gravelord is just sitting around waiting for invaders and hoping someone is having a bad day.
Having him invade with mob buffing/reviving spells, with weaker damage by himself, would be a good way to remake them
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Are there still any DaS PvP streamers that are worth watching?
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>>165843519
>Please accept me into your club /dsg/

You're already on it, m8.
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>>165843795
Make the effects worse?

Change the way to go to the gravelords world from a black sign to a black portal?

Idk man
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>>165843519
Get out.

That build needs improvements, never use sun princess AND life, ringswap them instead. Lloyd's, leo and others are far better. Vit investment is only ever good if you want to poise tank
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>>165843432
I would include a way to see the results of your havoc. Perhaps holding the eye of death to your eye to see the perspective of the victim as they search for your sign.
Also yes, affect ng.
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>>165843252
No one was autistic enough to pull that data. I think Bloodborne wikis had that pretty quickly because damage tables were in the official guide and DaS3 guide was a fucking joke.
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>yfw the second dlc add a hollow covenant, with pus of man transformation and spawning black phantoms in every world you invade
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>>165843432
Make it so you can play as one of the black phantoms while the host searches for your sign.
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>>165843519
any general that is an agglomerate of different generals will end up like that.
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>>165843238
Thinking again, could probably just bring back the Dragon covenant as the arena covenant. And make the dragon form not shit.

>>165843432
Don't tie the covenant joining status to beating a required boss. Also make it much easier to join and play in.

Allow Gravelording in all areas regardless of boss status of the Gravelord servant. Black phantom enemies can only spawn for players that haven't beaten area bosses, but can appear for un-Embered players.

Put in a level range so that servants can only summon black phantoms on players within their range, but make the upper limit higher so that there's a challenge.

When someone defeats a black phantom enemy, they get the option to invade the servant, instead of running around trying to find the black sign.

While Gravelording is active, servant can't summon friendly phantoms. Servant can still be regularly invaded.
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>>165842673
>>165842931
>>165843252
>>165843303
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>>165844112
Actually l would like to add to this.
Let's say the gravelord can observe the world of the victim from player perspective through an eye of death.
Then, by pressing square, the gravelotd can Nito shriek from the location of the player, let's say with a 10 second cool down, which immediately alerts all nearby mobs and draws gravelord phantoms from a great distance. This would create a major insentive to kill the gravelord instead of just killing his mobs and ignoring his sign, and would be lots of fun for the gravelord.
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>>165843519
>No one's actually helpful or even talks about games anymore.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

I've owned Dark Souls 3 for maybe two weeks now and every single question I've had has been answered and every time I asked for help with a boss, someone has showed up.

I don't know what problem you have, but it sure as fuck isn't the people on this general.
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>>165844901
He meant on /gsg/. Different general.
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>>165844468
>>165843795
Given that you curse up to three people at once in the original Gravelord, invading their world would require choosing a target to invade. Maybe more of something like:

All mobs near black phantoms gain speed and gradual HP regeneration buffs (it would make the black phantoms actually a threat instead of something you can just path around or try to cheese with arrows)

All mobs in general will gain attack and defense buffs, so that there's an incentive to kill a black phantom and invade the servant

Black phantoms and mobs near them will be automatically seeded, to make things interesting for reds and purples who also happen to invade a guy who's been cursed

Black phantoms can cast revive spells
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>>165844969
Jesus, I am fucking blind.
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>>165842461
Sometimes the blood stain isn't exactly where you died, try remembering the path you took and see if the bloodstain is on it. I remember looking for my bloodstain but the fucker was kilometers away from where I died.
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>>165844501
I'm starting to think that /dsg/ is behind most of these
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>>165845141
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What's the point of Yoel's free levels? Wouldn't it be better to just level your character normally without making him look like a decayed potato?
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>>165845141
Bought the DLC and got some Bandai Namco VIP points or whatever.

What are those, should I make a BN account for them?
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>>165845141
the pvp etiquette one was
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>>165845141
If they actually had good moderation then most of that shit would be quickly reverted and they'd be less of a joke. No sympathy for them for not making sure their content is of at least competent quality.

>t. guy who actually moderates a gaming wiki
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>>165845253
Lore reasons.
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>>165845253
Don't you understand ? It's free !

It also unlocks a new ending if you follow the quest
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>>165845102
FUCK YOU WHY DOES YOUR WRAITH OF THE GODS SHIT COMBO INTO YOUR STUN+GRAB BEFORE I CAN EVEN GET UP
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>>165845365
Most people seem to recommend that everyone gets them as if it's as mandatory as estus shards, even though it defintely would be out of character for a lot of heroes. Just wanted to make sure i'm not missing actually important stuff.
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>Go to Fextra Life
>Look up an item
>They only allow one video guide
>It's some faggot with an unbearable voice and a """cute""" asian girl

https://youtu.be/ouJV1KYCQ2w?t=5034

Why is this allowed? There are so many good Dark Souls III youtubers, why are they scraping the bottom of the barrel here. I'd rather listen to DSP explain something to me instead.
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>>165845253
You have at least three options for making your character not-potato, one of which is semi-permanent (at cost of ring slot) and a second of which is of negligible cost.

Getting Yoel's levels unlocks another NPC which in turn unlocks more rings/armor/weapons/spells.
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>>165845374
DING DING DING DING
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>tfw no one fixed this fucked up layout for months now
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>>165845489
Is this your first playtrough?

You'd be missing a lot of important stuff.
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>>165845492
Because it's the wiki creator gameplay
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>>165845563
Who would even care about this weapon
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>>165845563
I don't get why they went away from the old layout to this garbage that breaks on anything higher than 100% zoom
what is this, 1995?
>>165845692
>missing the point this hard
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>>165845692
It's fucked up for every weapon.
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What are some fun str weapons in SotFS? I've been using zweihander and it seems like every other UGS has the exact same moveset.
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>letting your opponent buff
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http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dark-souls-ms-sarah-strudwick/1120880935
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>>165845849
That's an issue in ds2. Greatsword, blacksword, and fugs are good.
Majestic greatsword in left hand is a lot of fun if quality.
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There a way to start NG+ on DS2 with a new character?
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>>165845849
crypt blacksword, iron king hammer, smelter weapons. For most fun, powerstqnce curved nil greatsword with one of the smelter UGS
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>>165846154
No, but if you use a Soul Vessel you can get a different build
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>>165845102
>>165845546

>yfw they fail to grab you after the electrocution
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>Dark Souls looks inside the minds of psychopaths and narcissists as well as the minds and emotional traits of the people that tend to be their victims, people who have oodles of empathy, tolerance and compassion but sadly have huge self-esteem issues themselves.

yeah, checks out
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>>165846154
cheat engine
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>>165845849
Blacksword or KUGS for that great axe moveset.
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>>165845754
Because someone uploaded these "high-res" images and they don't get scaled down. That's the only thing missing from the code, scaling images on default.
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>>165846313
like legit just start a on it with a new character or do you mean fucking with a current character on NG+ to level 1?
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>>165843519
>got ged
heh
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Red-eyed Lothric Knights are legitimately the scariest enemies in the game
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Any ideas on enhancing this build when leveling to 100 or 120? I'm sneaking up on people mostly but am considering leveling INT which I've never done before.

What are some good spells and how high should I consider leveling?
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>>165846439
with the latest cheat table you can adjust NG level, so you can do it on a fresh character
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>>165846634
Raise that Vigor by 20 points to start.
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Why are halberds in DS3 so... disappointing?

In DS1 they had a mix of stunlocking capability, moveset variety, seriously high damage, and just all around a cool moveset (if you hit)
In DS2 they were undisputably top tier weapons that would shit out a ton of damage on really wide attacks.

In DS3 they just kind of... exist. They don't really do more damage than straight swords, generally. They also don't really have a shitton of range, or have any combos, or any interesting moves. I'd say the 2hr2 spin attack on halberds is legit the worst move in the game.
Ontop of that, they have like no poise damage. You can't stun anything with it. They don't even have THAT over greatswords. You also have no HA when using a halberd, or close to none, unlike greatswords again.

The only one that is pretty good is Gundyrs and that's because the WA on it is legit busted.
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>>165846574
I dunno man, I've always had a harder time with the Carthus dicks, at least Lothric Knights move somewhat predictably.
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>>165846935
Sweet, that should make my offline achievement whore quest a lot easier.

I'm new to DS2 but I figure I can just pump my level up to something adequate.
I want to try hexing.
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>>165846574
You kidding me?

They're just humanoid knights.
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>>165845141
Someone here admitted to making the porcine shield one.
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>>165846281
They Always grab me
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>>165846967
the fuck you're talking about
halberds in ds3 are by far the best in series as far as pvp goes, they lack enormous lame miss animation of DS1 halberds and terrible movesets of DS2 halberds
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>>165846634
Hidden body gimmick is useless if you don't bank it on the first hit. But if you're planning on using sell swords and other weapons then switch it out with hornet/riposte weapon so if you end up being exposed or not able to kill the host within the first minute then retreat and equip long-term weapons.
Here's a basic template of what I'm using. Also avoid going beyond 80
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/125154
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>>165846634
get hornet and quills
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>>165845849
you need 25 dex, but the Red Iron Twinblade I swear by for every DS2 playthrough.

I think you pick it up in Shrine of Amana.
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>>165846967
>In DS2 they were undisputably top tier weapons
KEK
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>>165847251
Except you literally cannot tank through any hits using them and their range is worse than it previously was, so you can't outspace things as well anymore.
Plus if you're looking to stagger anyone you're gonna get shat on. Greatsword users with barely any poise can just poisetank through your shitty little attacks, win the the trade, and stagger you for a second hit.
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>>165847284
>>165847373
Will do. Thanks for the tip.
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>>165847458
>Except you literally cannot tank through any hits using them
stack poise retard
the best glaive in ds3 is a single-stat which gives a shitton of stats for heavy armor
>their range is worse than it previously was
no it's not
also get good at spacing
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>>165847421
>avelyn being that low
It's still a good mid-range quickshot weapon. Plus what's the difference between Old and Mirah gs? Aren't they the same, only one has almost impossible droprate?
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I accidently ended the first game now I am in NG+ and I never got all the stuff I needed from the first game. i never killed people that needed to be killed so now I have to do it on hard mode. I am trying to get all of the rare weapons in the game for the achievement but maybe I cant now... idk
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>>165847687
avelyn got absolutely fucked by nerf and never recovered
crossbows in general became garbage in ds2 with the exception of that one sanctum crossbow special attack which is a glorified dark orb
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>>165846967
Because they got nerfed.
Before the nerf HA began before you even started attacking, which was stupid. They had too much HA.
Even with that nerf, they're still good to use.
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Were all the Outrider knights Sully's concubines, or just the one?
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What is a good level to be to get through NG+ with ease? Also what sort of stats? (Sorcerer)
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>>165847912
>Sully fucked dudes in armor
What a faggot. He should've sacrificed himself to aldrich too.
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>>165847421

He probably means pre nerf halberds. Helixodon.
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>>165848173
just look at the outrider knights, dude. they were ladyboys all the way, and that's only if all of them were men.

it's not gay if it's an outrider.
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>>165848250
it's interesting to note that the only time where halberds in ds2 were worth shit is when they had access to ds1-like poke attacks
after the death of helixodon and severe nerf of syan they got shafted because generic halberd movesets in ds2 are awful
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>>165847912
Vordt was definitely one of his fucktoys, doubly so if it's a girl like some people believe.
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>>165846154
yeah, farm a quick 1 mil souls
rush through castle and get to shrine
do da memory
kill nashandra
jump off side in Majula, lose all the souls you collected and never spent
begin next journey as level 1 deprived
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>>165845754
Because in the DS3 wikidot, pages are treated as fill out forms based on a pre-formated template page.
This was to make editing easier as well as listing and filtering pages by their form variables.
Why are you zooming in though?
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>>165848743
>why do people zoom in
to make pages larger you retard
was that so hard to guess?
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>>165847912
>>165848410
I need porn of that, I NEED IT
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>>165849045
get out hirame poster
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I know you can dropswap yourself NG+ rings, and hero souls, but does the game detect anything if you give yourself weapons you shouldn't be able to have yet? Like if I drop myself a DSA right at the start will I get bun? I started my twink as a stupid class and want to redo some stuff anyway.
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>>165847912

Have you looked at the Irithyll portrait? They're all fuccbois
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What if Dark Souls added an auction house, and mailboxes? Next DLC maybe?
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>>165849773
Only known flags are slabs, but i wouldn't risk covenants rank up items either. But any weapons is fine as long as it's not impossible (like infusions on special weapons)
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One of the dumbest things about DS3 pvp is the fact that parrying gives you infinite HA.

Meaning that if you use something with decent stability (read: not a caestus) and you know you're about to take a hit from an ultra-weapon, just parry then roll out. You obviously can't parry ultras (usually) but this prevents you from getting staggered and eating a followup.
Plus, I think partial parries actually deal less damage.
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>>165849773
>cheaters don't exist on PC
they said
>it's so rare you're unlikely to ever meat one
they said
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>>165850063
Yeah I know the procedure with cov items, dropswap the farmed items instead and then turn them in. Thanks though.
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>did a shitton of DS3 playthroughs
>still getting hyped for the majority of bosses because of a combination of hype as fuck themes and interesting movesets
Seriously, replaying DS1 after 3 make me feel like vast majority of DS1 bosses don't deserve to even be called so.
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There should be ways to infuse weapons to make any kind of damage scale to any stat. Like physical damage to INT, or Dark to STR.
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>>165849485
______________________No__________________
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>>165851023
There really weren't that many good boss fights in DS1 outside of the DLC
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>>165851224
Most of the boss fights in DaS1 were good. The only one I didn't really enjoy was the centipede fight.
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>>165851370
>The only one I didn't really enjoy was the centipede fight.

Because of the camera right?
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>>165851370
Lucy's reasonable commentary of the week.
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>>165851470
and the lava. RIP my eyes.
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>>165851370
So you liked Bed of Chaos huh?
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>>165850393
I thought CE to avoid fetch quest/farming was accepted by the community, whereas hacked/impossible stats was not.
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>>165851663
Bed of Chaos was a really nice concept, although not the best fight.
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>>165851726
>cheating is fine
kys
>accepted by the community
double kys
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>>165851728
>literally reuse dragon god fight
>make it worse
wooow
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>>165851663
BoC isn't too bad once you realize it is just a puzzle boss.

>>165851726
Cheating to twink was never accepted.
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What are the best weapon(s) of each class for infusing with Hollow or work best with a Hollow 40/40/30+10 build? I feel like using ultras would be very tricky, since a proper Hollow build will have less stamina and vitality to work with in exchange for Bleed potential and increased damage.

So far I came up with:

Bandit's Knife
Rotten Ghru Dagger
Barbed Straight Sword
Anri's Straight Sword
Broad Sword
Flamberge
Greatsword UGS
Carthus CS
Warden Twinblades
Rotten Ghru CS
Uchigatana
Washing Pole
Crow Talons
Carthus Curved Greatsword
Exile Curved Greatsword
Spiked Club
Greataxe
Onikiri and Ubadachi
Corvian Greatscythe
Notched Whip
Rotten Ghru Spear

Is that about all of them?
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Thoughts? I'm not sure what to use as my 4th ring, Hornet for guardbreak ripostes on newbies was my original thought, but surely at this low a level a non-hornet one is probably going to kill anyway? So in that case I'm thinking maybe use either the str or dex ring and put the points into VIT (for more defence. I'm trying to find the most weight:defence effective armour for this vit as well) or VIG.
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>>165846634
I'm pretty sure you could make this build more efficiently with a mercenary, you save on faith and luck.

>>165846949
>50 vig
For 4 more attunement he could add on replenishment and cast via ringswap, that's up to 300 more hp in a fight, and still 150 if he doesn't take damage for half the duration. That's as much health as his next 9 points of vigor add unembered. I don't disagree that 30 vig is low, and regen might break the hidden body gimmick, but 50 vig is never worth it. Going to 50 from 40 with life +3 and favor +2, you only gain 100 hp unembered, and only 130 embered. That isn't even half an R1 from a lot of weapons, it most likely won't even change the number of hits it takes to kill you.

>>165846967
>thinks halberds aren't good
>thinks gundy's is the best, and that the weaponart is why
>thinks L2R2 spin isn't a good move

they're worse than greatswords but they have a perfectly fine matchup against lone SS or any other lighter weapon

gundy's weaponart is parriable
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>>165851790
With how rarely indictments are used and how much of a pain the crows in the painted world are, do you really expect people to get Darkmoon Blade the regular way?

If the PvP aspects start failing because of the heavily reduced playerbase, I'm not ashamed of using CE to save hours of my time. It's not like it gives me an unintended advantage.
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>>165852114
I never said halberds aren't good, you memeing fuck. I said they're disappointing.

The two things are not mutually exclusive and there is no reason you should interpret my post as if they are.
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>>165847421
I remember the list not having the sanctum mace in top tier for the longest time because lol self poison.
Halberds are good simply because of being high damage shield poking weapons. They counter everything that doesn't pierce shields, if you're gud that is.
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>>165851941
>tfw just went and checked the damage on some of these weapons

>exile cgs
>611 ar
>broadsword
>473 ar
>crow talons
>51 bleed aux
>flamberge
>51 bleed aux
>corvian greatscythe
>469 AR
>59 bleed aux

what in the actual fuck. why does not one run hollow builds?
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>>165850356
If its unparriable, why not just roll? If you have time to parry, you have time to just roll. Parrys having hyperarmor isn't the reason why ultras have problems. The reason why ultra weapons are bad is because you can just keep throwing knives at them until they die since they require opponents to walk into their bait swings.
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is it literally ever worth using the shield bash at all?
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>>165852149
If it's DaS1 then sure whatever, it's a dead game anyway. Anon was clearly not talking about it.
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>>165852114
>gundy's weaponart is parriable
I never got why people think this makes it worthless.

So mix it up. Play unpredictably. You don't have to literally run up and charge and do absolutely nothing else.
With Gundyr's Charge, you can even directly avoid parries by steering it.

It's probably the single best WA in the game due to how unparryable you can make it if you're not terrible at it.
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>>165852240
>I know, I'll call him a memer!
All of your reasons for being disappointed were listed as performance complaints
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>strong urge to wear full gold bling
>haven't tried profaned gs and got hard swords
Rate my fashion. Also post fashion
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>>165852453
I've only played 1. Is the situation different for 3? Why?
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>>165851941
People don't use slow weapons for bleed builds, because you want to burst the enemy not slowly build-up the meter. That's why duo katanas are one of the best for that if you can land the WA
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>>165852634
nigger what?

a strawberry-flavored flamberge is enough to bleed someone out in four R1s
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>>165847687
Avelyn's reload time is really high now, it's too easy to punish, and for outright quick shot damage, the DLC crossbows beat it.

Old Mirrah greatsword has higher dex scaling than Mirrah, but the base damage dropped so much that even at 99 dex I think it's still weaker. It seems like an oversight to me of From because of how low they made dex scaling. Loyce Greatsword is basically what the old mirrah greatsword was supposed to be.
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>>165852608
Because it's not a dead game and cheating yourself items other players have to actually play for is unfair towards them? What are you, retarded?
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>>165852727
>use onislayer
>stagger the guy even if he's mid swing
>spam l1
>he's dead
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>>165852727

If it's not one combo you can just i-frame the bleed.
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>>165852856
i just want a high-damage build, not fucking Ultimate Turbocheese deluxe 3000 r2.0
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>>165852364
because parry frames are shorter than roll frames and let you use a standard, comboing attack.

It's a viable strategy with a rapier to parry the first swing of an ultra, then stab into his followup and roll out. If you get the counter on it, it's an even trade.
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If I kill crystal sage, will I still be summoned as a watchdog? I'm having fun doing invasions here in my second playthru but I need some souls to upgrade some different weapons
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Apparent if go below the Gutter, They actualled modeled the rest of the fucking poles holding the "buildings" up, along with ground you can actually stand on

This is all well below where you'd die from a fall
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>>165853246 y
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>>165851941
>>165852320
It usually takes the same number of hits to bleed someone either way with tomato sauce, and you don't actually get more AR most the time when you dump onto luck compared to just dumping past the dexcap on refined.

Think of it like ordinary damage. You need to do 100 damage to kill some monster. You've got one weapon which does 25 damage per hit, and one weapon which does 33 damage per hit. 25*4=100, so the first takes 4 hits. 33*3=99, so you need another hit anyway in that case, meaning your damage is essentially pointless.

In bleeds case, you've got that issue plus the fact that you can roll through bleed procs if they aren't worked into a combo.

This is why most hollow builds just use stuff like twin katanas, since they've got a combo attack, double swing L1's, and no twohanded str bonus to worry about losing.

then you've got the poor AR per point. With bare minimum warrior stats, going 40/60 uses five less points of stat investment than going 40/40/40, and it doesn't require a hollow infused offhand, so you can get 2 hp/s regen on top of it. *According to mugen*, the hollow build's twohanded AR is only four points higher in spite of spending five more SL. I can't remember if that's accurate, but there's a youtube video floating around which has actual values.
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>have SL100 character, mostly faith based build
>kinda want that warmth
>go to pontiff for some duels
>absolutely destroy everyone with raw dragonslayer's axe
I knew people at 120 are horrible, but holy fuck I didn't expect shitters on lower sl to be that bad.
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I'm a little confused.
What's the difference between "defence" and "absorbtion"?
I assume defence is just a flat amount of damage that is taken away from each incoming attack and then absorbtion is a percentage of the attack taken away. If so, is absorbtion taken into account before or after the defence is considered?
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>>165853079
or you could roll away then get in the right position to roll bs him
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>equip large two-handed sword
>not strong enough to use it with one hand
>accidentally swing it anyway when sheathing bow
>character swings it normally as if he were able to wield it
>just does significantlly less damage

dark souls did it better with the slugglish animations
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>>165853495
I assume before since it scales with your stats
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i believe it is time to make a thread anew.
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>>165853495
I can't remember the order but there's a maximum fraction of the incoming damage which your defenses can remove. Get 100 lightning resistance and let someone hit you once with a physical weapon, then once with the same weapon + 95 lightning damage from resin. You'll still take more damage the second time in spite of having over 95 lightning resistance.
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>there is no porn of the Assassin Pilgrim that kills Anri
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>>165853591
Except that's not reliable in DS3 and has never been. If they angle themselves right, their hit will get you before it locks into a BS due to latency.

I mean shit, I play with ultra weapons frequently. I've never, ever been roll backstabbed. I assume everyone who claims roll backstabbing is a thing is just full of shit and has never actually fought and is just playing the game in their head.
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>>165853514
Isn't that just a debuff?
Why make it so easily dodgable, miyasucky?
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>>165853698
We're on page 1 and still have like 40 posts until the bump limit.
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>>165853657
Dark souls 2 was a bit of a compromise. They would let the weapon do its base damage, but it would have negative scaling, much higher stamina consumption, and the same (but slowed down) animation. That was pretty cool since it let you still use things like Dragon Tooth without meeting the requirements in situations where swing speed and stamina use didn't matter (like smashing crystal lizards)

Honestly it probably just made no sense to throw in more animations for when you can't use it, when they could spend that same amount of time making new weapons / adding new animations to make weapons unique.
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>>165853870
Because it's a debuff that doubles the damage you take and can't be gotten rid of once you get it.
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>>165853870

It does damage and gives you the calamiti status (double damage?). I don't think it's particularly hard to difficult to avoid it. Kalameet does have another attack that look like it so you can get confused by it. It's one of the most dangerous attacks in the game anyway.
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>>165853481
>uses five less points of stat investment
my mistake, I had one of the builds set to knight
it uses one more point; if you were to drop to 40/59 it'd be identical investment with the hollow giving you a mere 5 extra points of AR. It's only slightly better than dumping past the dex cap.
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>>165853657
I liked the approach in sequels, because that let's you check the moveset and think if you want to get the stats to wield it.
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>>165853481
I hate theorydueling here but

What if the opponent is a filthy regening poisefag? You just did an extra 24 damage. Could it have counteracted the sun ring and blessed caestus he has in his pocket and ensured a kill on the last hit?

33 is a 25% damage increase, and no hollow weapon does that much extra damage, but I do see your point.

>>165853481
>>165854106
it's 40/40/30+10 btw. you get 10 points of luck from having two weapons infused with hollow.
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>>165854102
>I don't think it's particularly hard to difficult to avoid it.

Wow, I meant to write it's not particularly hard or easy to avoid it.
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>>165853842
you can get hit and still have a backstab go through
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>Sen's Fortress
>Got up to the room with the mechanism, change the boulder's path, stay and watch for ca 5 minutes to see if it resets itself, it doesn't
>Have to backtrack from the beginning because exploration
>Go past the serpent leaning on the destructible wall, the wall's been destroyed, the FUCKING BOULDER HITS THE GUY
>Move on, get to the default boulder path AND GET FUCKING HIT BY A BOULDER TWICE BECAUSE THIS GAME IS FUCKING STUPID

It's not even fucking hard on its own, it's just the sheer amount of straight-up bullshit that's making it fucking unbearable.
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>>165854003
It's a temporary debuff, but Kalameet is usually aggressive enough to kill you before it wears off, especially if you don't know what the debuff does and continue fighting normally.
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>>165854226
No shit, if you HA through it.

What kind of sicknasty poise stat do you have, to be poising through ultras with a non-ultra weapon mate?
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>>165853481
additionally, thief 40/40/30+10 is actually 3 points more efficient than warrior 40/60
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>>165854247
I bet you assholes will come up with some bullshit excuse to explain this because WAAAH DAS1 IS SO GOOD
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>>165854461
>>165854247
>not killing the enemy in the room that resets the mechanism
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>>165854247
There's a really loud grinding sound when the launcher changes paths automatically. Sen's Funhouse is where yolofaggots get filtered.
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>>165854461
If you're not liking it, just give up.
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>>165854450
>thief 40/40/30+10 is actually 3 points more efficient than warrior 40/60
Don't be dumb
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>>165854682
It automatically self-resets. I've killed all the enemies on the way to the thing, circled around, and heard it grinding to reset to launch boulders in my direction, then gone back to the boulder pit and never seen an enemy there.
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>>165851726

It is. Only consolefags complain.
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>>165854682
Fuck off
>>165854696
Oh, you mean the one that sounds like a boulder HITTING A FUCKING WALL? Gee, I MUST HAVE MISSED IT

Also, fuck that "yolofaggots", this game pretty much expects me to stop every 5 steps and write down every little thing I see or hear. I am fucking careful and patient, the game is just fucking dumb
>>165854774
But I need to so I can pick up all references from DaS3 because coming up with new lore is hard
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>>165854178
I took the luck additions into account, just go on mugen, pick warrior, throw on 99 hollowing and two hollow weapons. you'll end up at sl 81, same as a 40/59 build.

>regen
And that is a fair point considering bleed bars deplete over time, and for actual damage and actual regen you're right, but for bleed its kinda just a general consensus that hollow doesn't make people appear to bleed faster unless you're using stuff like twin katanas. 2kat *according to mugenmonkey* actually do gain like 20 AR from hollow infusion compared to the equivalent refined investment of 40/59 (or 50/49 since twohanding isn't an issue). It's a lot more wishy washy with things like the washing pole, and you can roll through bleed fairhly reliably against it compared to combo weapons, so it isn't worth investing in bleed there just generally speaking.

>>165854450
>thief
Not if you're leveling vig and endurance as well, warrior saves you 4 points. They come out equal if you need 10 attunement though.

>>165854368
you don't need to poise through an attack to backstab through it, the backstab animation plays and you just take the damage
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>>165853514
Post THAT picture
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>>165854825
>tfw forgot to add end and vig

oops my mistake
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>>165854247
You even get more boulders with phantoms in your world. The game is fucked.
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>>165854921
What you're having trouble with? Can't reach the mechanism?
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>>165854921
>Oh, you mean the one that sounds like a boulder HITTING A FUCKING WALL?
No, the one that sounds like a very loud, long grind of metal against metal.

Can you stop shitposting just because you're butthurt about something you didn't pay attention to?
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>>165854921
Also, I SPENT 5 MINUTES WATCHING THE FUCKING MECHANISM TO SEE IF IT RESETS. IT DIDN'T.
>>165854997
I'm having trouble with the game being full of bullshit
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>>165854937
>warrior saves you 4 points
-as in luck build warrior saves you 4 points compared to luck build thief
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>>165854921
>sounds like a boulder HITTING A FUCKING WALL
no, it's a separate, grinding sound. you can see the mechanism reset but you can't be alone in the world. the reset doesn't trigger close to the room, you need someone else to trigger it
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>>165855039
>Also, I SPENT 5 MINUTES WATCHING THE FUCKING MECHANISM TO SEE IF IT RESETS. IT DIDN'T.
Consider this: Whoever is using the mechanism doesn't do it when you're down there.

Will you be a petulant child or do I literally have to spoil what is happening to you? Just keep playing
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>not enjoying Schrödingers Ball of Fun mechanism
>it may or may not reset as long as it isn't being observed
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>>165855009
Fuck off. The mechanism doesn't reset unless you stop watching it. It's not a gameplay mechanic, it's bullshit.
>>165855089
And this is what I call bullshit. There is no fucking explanation behind it, it's just POOF! DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD RESET, NOW WOULD YOU? WELL, NOW YOU'RE DEAD SO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DONE! LOL
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>>165855039
Man, it's been a while since the last time I played. Do this shit really resets if you go far enough? Can't remember such thing happening.
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>>165855176
>Fuck off. The mechanism doesn't reset unless you stop watching it. It's not a gameplay mechanic, it's bullshit.
see >>165855148

Also stop moving goalposts, just a second ago you were holding the position that you LITERALLY CAN'T TELL IF IT CHANGED OR NOT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS THE EXACT SAME!!!
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>>165855148
This is what I meant with my first post, OF COURSE there is a lore explanation behind this, it's just YOU HAVE NO MEANS OF KNOWING SOMEONE MIGHT MESS WITH THE MECHANISM
>>165855202
It does, but the best thing is, 5 seconds before dying to a reset boulder I watched it crush a serpent on an entirely different path. THIS GAME IS BULLSHIT and you are dumb to try and find excuses
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>>165854921
Clearly you aren't patient enough if you got hit by a boulder. You hear the grinding sound well in advance, it's the same sound it makes when you turn it yourself. Look both ways before crossing the street and git fucking gud.
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>>165855202

It rotates if you go through the fog gate.
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>>165849990
That would be my cue to leave and never look back
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>>165855156
it's not "poof you're dead". you get a loud sound (which you should recognize from changing the mechanism yourself) and quite a bit later, you get a boulder towards you
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Why don't you just kill the dude putting the boulders in the launcher in the first place?

PS how ripped would you be if your job was just loading boulders for 40 hours a week
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>>165855451
>>165855451
>>165855451
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>>165855320
>>165855361
Fuck off. "Stop every 5 minutes and spend 20 minutes to figure out if there might be another way for the game to fuck me over". Great design.

Also: I JUST SAW it hit a serpent.

Not to mention boulders deal damage TWICE.
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>>165855479
>Not to mention boulders deal damage TWICE.
that happens if you bounce on a wall and get hit again
>>165855457
text was for>>165855176
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>>165855320
> lore explanation
Ok, gonna spoil you then. If you get to the roof, there's literally giants standing there. One is feeding balls into the machine. He's the one reaching down and turning it back when you're not there.

Not quite so "esoterical lore", is it? If you had played 5 more minutes instead of going into a shitpost tantrum about how "nothing is explained" you'd have found it yourself.
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So i think some Invader is trying to troll me by waiting in the lower levels cause i used a seed and had a smoke while i wait for him to attack, been 20 mins now, alt+f4?
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