/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

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>>165735068
Custom Rulers / Cutsom Nations when? I think it'd be an easily-sellable DLC if there was a tool to create nations or leaders in-game.

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simple 2d map and tactical symbols will always be superior to 3dpigdisgusting

>>165735230
>barfight

So, Collectivism is a bad idea -- or so I've been told.

Would Fanatic Individualist/Xenophobe be appropriate for playing as Emperor Space-Bastard the IV?

How about Individualist/Materialist/Xenophobe?

Do I need to go whole-hog with Individualist to avoid factions, or would the Happiness bonus of Direct Democracy be enough to keep my Pops productive?

The plan is to rapidly expand using conquered primitives, then exploit the Horizon Signal, purge the primitives, and re-colonize the now empty planets with my upgraded Pops.

Do other xeno empires hate you as much if you demand 'Abandon Planet' instead of 'Cede Planet' as a war goal?

>>165735303
I always take militarist/xenophobe/materalist and don't have a problem with factions. The "symbol of purity" is a wonderful building that doesn't require power for it's +10% happy. With materialist you can also do the +5%/+10% happy democracy government.

Never got the abandon planet war goal but vassalling an enemy empire causes threat to go into the hundreds making diplomacy impossible.

>>165735068
>>165735096
I can remove some characters from the endless legend resources and still have it line up next thread.
- were more character intensive than _, but - were more appealing for some.

>>165736893
I can also remove the
>Last thread:
>Last thread: >>165342693
That was a bit stupid from me to not doublecheck it.

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>>165737074
>>165736893
>everyone uses the same default shit font

>>165737191
Honestly looks disgusting lad

>>165737191
It only makes sense to base it on the standard font.

>>165735725
>I always take militarist/xenophobe/materalist and don't have a problem with factions
That's because NOBODY has a problem with factions. They're underpowered to the point of bugged.

Might be a late reply, but whatever:

>>165708228
>if i leave leftover picks after race creation, do i get them back plus the 4 from research?
I don't remember exactly if you kept leftover picks. I do remember that they gave you extra score points.
>Dictatorship to imperium, morale boost?
Exactly, once you upgrade, you lose the -20% morale without barracks, and barracks gets you a +20% bonus. It's fairly easy to get a ~+70% morale bonus with imperium once you have all the morale buildings
>Democracy and filthy xenos
The most you can do is resettle them. Then again, i always played with dictatorship, so i might be wrong.
>Tax rate
It reduces production, up to the % you have set the taxes. By late game, if you're doing it right, you can set them to 0% and still make tens of thousands of BC.
Usually, once you research galactic currency exchange you can forget about taxes because you'll be swimming in cash

>>165719576
>i just ignore toxic altogether, they have absolutely nothing going for them
Same here, the only thing they are good for is being a target for a stellar converter + planet construction on the resulting asteroid field

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Why can't I build a holy site here (Civ6)? The game won't let me build it there. Do I need to clear the rainforest first? What am I doing wrong?

>>165739137
I'm willing to bet that its' because you don't have passage to that area within your borders. If you buy the 1/2 tile for 75 gold right next to it, it should allow constructiion.

>>165739137
>What am I doing wrong?
Playing Civ Vi thats what

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>>165737887
I'll agree with you that factions don't even register as a problem if you're taking some measures to improve happiness on your worlds. However, if you're just making sweeping conquests and colonising en masse then chucking them in a sector before they're ready then yeah factions can bite you in the ass, mostly when you're at war with someone.

I've certainly witnessed big AI empires having serious problems with them, especially if they've just come off second best in a war or are already currently fighting one. They'll often lose multiple worlds to independents in swathes if their navy strength has taken a beating.

>>165739137
You have mining so you can place the holy site on forests, since you can clear forests.

You don't have bronze working, so you can't clear rainforests since you can't clear them yet.

That's what I'm guessing.

>>165739410
Holy sheet, you are right. Gotta get the bronze first. Thanks.

>>165739331
that's a big cock piece

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>Military Republic, military academies and combat centres on every world
>Service Guarantees Citizenship
>Immigration agreements early on with fellow Democratic Crusaders bro-Empires
>Reptillian Drax, Mammalian Jos-Werni, Arthropoid-Yibrak. Life is good in our Empire, many flock to our newly colonized worlds.
>Vote is still Primary Species. You don't serve, you don't vote.
>War were declared.
>Muster 20 regiments from 4 worlds and 6 different species
>World after world feels the stomp of our boot. A dozen worlds, a dozen different battlefields.
>The strong Drax in particular make good a account of themselves
>The fleets and armies return to the Capital for their Triumph
>The vote to open up a Free Vote passes unanimously
>20 good years later we have our first Drax president.


Will you serve?
Also, goddamn does it feel good to have Honourbound Warriors for your vassals.

>>165741990
Told you wraith rush is OP.

>>165742030
Why is nobody casting Fireball on the dumbfucks?

>>165742030
You did?

I am fond of pigs

>>165742176
Last thread, or the one before that. Someone posted a pic with different builds, and I mentioned wraiths were incorporeal etc.

>>165742081
Because you don't send them against other wizards, you send them to conquer neutrals.

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>>165742952
>Last thread, or the one before that. Someone posted a pic with different builds, and I mentioned wraiths were incorporeal etc.
Ah.
Yeah I know Wraiths are good that that's why Wraiths were listed in the picture. I've done it before.

>>165740359
>Letting xeno scum migrate into you're empire
top cuck

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Gives real meaning to the term snowniggers

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New purge types below and something else to the right it seems.

I start replaying stellaris again after 1.4 and dlc's but im currently at 2400 and didnt get any of those event like awakened empires or unbidden or othershits. Is my game bugged or i need to complate quest or what?

>>165744539
cool

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>>165735230
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck i really have to learn hoiw to play that game .. So awesome <3

>>165744275
what's this ÒvÓ

>>165748457
city state named after an african city placed in snow

>>165744539
>livestock slavery
That's grim.

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>>165749397
wonder what the food bonus for that is..and the diplo malus.

>>165749397
>That's grim.
It depends on the context. Instead of growing food in a hydroponic farm, you grow plantoid population for food.
In the end it all comes to growing plants for food

>>165749928
>It depends on the context
Ultimately, it's still eating a sentient species.

Now I want to create a patriarchy that enslave and eat vegans and feminists, while using tumblrtards as battle thralls.

>>165750165
sapient

>>165749909
>>165749928
I didn't take it to mean anything with food at all because livestock is already animal slavery.

I took it to relate to your pops. Maybe a qt slave of your own species for the purpose of reproduction and continuing the livestock of the species.

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>>165750214
It obviously means eating the slaves. The edict is clearly related to the role of slavery in your society
Also there's tons of sci fi precedent for it.
Alien waifu slaves would definitely fall under domestic servitude.

>>165740359
>>Vote is still Primary Species. You don't serve, you don't vote.
You can manually change which species/planets can vote and which can't, or is this whole thing RP?

>>165749397
>grim

Shindoll taught me otherwise.

>>165751459
It looks like you'll be able to give citizenship to specific races with the next update

>>165751696
I can't find the developer diary about it, are they leaked pictures or something?

>>165744539

Here you can see the different kinds of citizenship >>165751772

>>165751696
>It looks like you'll be able to give citizenship to specific races with the next update
About time.
So fucking weird that wasn't in there at the start.

>>165744539
Cant wait for the mod to change livestock to sexual slavery

>>165752118
True
And the roadmap Wiz posted does look good although I'm still afraid he will turn Stellaris in EU IV in space

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>>165752242
pretty sure that is covered under "domestic servitude".

>>165744539
So any ETA for the next patch? They seem to be every other month.

>>165753735
Soon™

Which trait mods you guys use with stellaris?

>>165753735
def. not in January

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>>165755390
I just use the extended batch of Alpha Mod stuff

>>165756223
I've been using that too, but the extra resources just seem to be bloat. It's easier to just use power plants and mining networks than to screw around with the added resource buildings.

>>165756223
confused dick.jpeg

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>>165757131
One of the main complaints about Stellaris is the oversimplification of resources, and the lack of impact special resources have. Alphamod is at least attempting to fix it.
You could just install the standalone Expanded Traits and Ethics mod.

>its one corvette stops your troop transports from warping out

Fucknig hate these fucking ships.

>start a war
>move fleet
>energy per month goes to -300

Welp I am fucked.

>>165755390
Traits Redux and Extended Traits, plus the government-specific traits from Ethics & government Rebuilt.

Mostly because they more of an extension of vanilla traits and because the AI is not smart enough to make good decisions regarding pops ad their traits.

>https://www.gog.com/promo/20170116_weekly_sale
>galactic civilizations 2 is 5€ instead of 20€
TAKE MY MONEY

What about the other games, by the way? Sorcerer King, Ashes of the Singularity, Star Control, Fallen Enchantress?

>>165760254
FE is shit, Sorcerer king is somehow even worse.

>>165760254
star control 3 isn't worth it; if you mean 2, just download the Ur'Quan Masters (freeware, superior in all ways)

>>165760428
>FE is shit
Well, fuck.

>>165761002
So what about Ashes of the Singularity or Offworld Trading Company?

Should i go with Alphamod or Stellaris Zero?

>>165760254
>>165760428
I liked Fallen Enchantress. Post apocalyptic fantasy world 4x with quests.

>>165763198
>Post apocalyptic fantasy world
That's new.

>>165762570
don't know about AotS
OTC is only worth it if you have friends to play it with (so; not)

>>165763441
>if you have friends to play it with
Hahahaha... ;_;

Fanatic Individualist/Materialist?

-or-

Individualist/Materialist/Xenophobe?

>>165760001
There are 3 main trait mods:

Extended Traits > Additional Traits > Traits Redux

I've also ordered them by number of ratting and subscribers.
Trait redux is not that popular compared to the first two.

So really dunno which one to pick.

>>165762746
pls

>>165764251
Fanatic individualist / militarist conquer the galaxy and ignore pops you just conquered.

>>165762746

Also another question do you know if Ethic&Government Rebuild is compatible with Stellar Policies (new policies and edicts) both are quite popular.

>>165764874
Yes it is

>>165764874
>>165765445
Sorry I was thinking of Stellaris+(Techs and Policies Module)
But it looks like they are quite similar

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>still no weeaboo strategy game
WHERE THE CATGIRLS AT?

>>165768230
sengoku rance you nerd

>>165763418
There's also Thea: The Awakening with a similar concept.

>>165769267
that's more of a rpg than a true 4x, you never even expand to make another town and it's got a railroaded plot .

>>165769854
Sounds boring, to be honest.

But still better than Amon's stuff.

>>165764251

Individualist/Materialist/Militarist

Good balance, individualist ethos for rulling easily after the occupation malus goes away and materialist for science directorate regime so you can pick your favorite techs at mid game. Militarist always helps ofc.

Other good regimes would be individualist, fanatic materialist Plutocratic Oligarchy (with industrious and thrifty traits) for sheer greed or fanatic xenophobe Despotic Empire for big borders.

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Thea is kicking my ass.

>>165772981
>Take Xenophobe so that you can purge/enslave the alien.
>Haven't purged or enslaved a single one because it's too much of a hassle.

Maybe Militarist IS the way to go...

>>165776225
Use Collectivist.
No diplomacy minus and you can enslave/purge everyone ontop of having less food consumption.

>>165776350
But then you deal with factions -- and I don't enslave or purge regardless, so it's pointless.

>>165776678
Cuck.

>>165776678
Then youre a beta and purging causes no factions, only for a short moment.

>>165776678

If you dont enslave then use individualist. Thats exactly what its used for.

Xenophobes work sonely on slavery, collectivism works on slavery in the beginning then it reduces ethics divergence and frees everyone (once you have the mind control laser and comissairs) and individualist allows you to rule with ethics divergence easily.

>>165777302

Purging is stupid from an effective gameplay point of view. You are discarding resources (pops).

>>165777585
Sometimes pops can be destructive. Removing that destructive resource can lead to a net increase in resources.

>>165777585
if your empire relies on war and you get some prancing hippies in your planets then you will have problem with wartime resources going down to shitter.

>>165777585
Sometimes getting rid of the troublesome elements, recently conquered xenos with incompatible ethics and without traits to make them worth the hassle for instance is more efficient than wasting time and influence waiting for them to convert to your PoV

>>165777585
>You are discarding resources (pops).
You're discarding faulty gears from your machine, that will end up being replaced by (hopefully) right gears
Also, fuck hippies that complain for everything

>>165777585
But I don't care about the gameplay ramifications of purges. Gameplay is not why I do it.

Besides, you could argue that purges are worth it on the basis that undesired pops actually consume a resource, which is population space. If a less efficient pop is consuming population space, then it might be worthwhile to pure said pop to free up more population space to a more productive pop.

>>165777585
>letting faggot aliens into your empire to cause you long term problems with divergent ethics and faction bullshit
>this is a good thing
P U R G E

>>165777585

>The immense /pol/ butthurt

Roleplay BS apart if you dont at least put them all to chains during the early/mid game you lose momentum. You simply cannot afford this when racing against the clock with insanity AI.

Who gives a fuck about politics regarding pixels? You are basically saying: "I will gimp myself because I want to look like a badass edgy tard". Maybe you guys play on normal or something.

I like to use Encourage Free Thought for the research boost.

If I'm not playing as Fanatic Individualist, can I get away with still using Deviants, or would Sedentary be a safer bet? I don't want to encourage pop unhappiness.

Also, if I'm going for a wide empire with lots of aliens in it, I shouldn't make my primary species Pop-bonus intensive, right? I should focus on Leader bonuses like Enduring and Quick Learners?

>>165780803

Usually you take resource traits for early/mid game effectiveness or research/leadership traits for middle/late game effectiveness.

Depends...

>>165780962
Huh, you're right -- I'd be weakening my early game, and my primary species would still be the most populous in the empire especially after Horizon Signal.

Thanks!

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What's the best spawn position you've ever had in a Civ game?

>>165782203
triple crab triple salt

>>165782203
>that comic
10/10

>>165782372
which Civ nigga?

>>165782545
civ 5 playing as venice

>>165782203
Civ 6 started next to the mandatory river and kilimanjaro completely surrounded by hills except for a single flat tile, which had horses, as tomyris. The yields were fucking nuts

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For those who played stellaris MP PVP or are just warlike insane, whats the best possible species for an early rush attack (even with total disregard for governance)?

>http://stellarisspeciesgen.com

>>165783395
I'm having turkey tonight.

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>>165783395

>>165782203
source?

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>>165783395
the metalhead AI is one of the most aggresive

for a rush , you want to just get corvette spam up and running pronto. So, minerals and fleet cap is your priority.

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What the fuck is going on here....

>>165786257
>Stellaris AI in a nutshell.

>>165781607
Fuck Horizon Signal.

It turned my awesome lion-dudes into lame-looking horsefaggots.

>>165786528
I imagine just a bunch of dumb robots sitting on a bicycle trying to power a generator in some frozen wasteland.

i am fond of pigs

>>165782203
Anyone next to kilimanjaro with truffles. 3 food 3 prod 3 gold tile hnng

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This is not a good idea.

>>165781607
So, seriously, do you guys suggest a focus on Pop or Leader enhancement traits?

>>165791838
Do whatever you want. Game is pretty easy to be quite honest.

>>165791928
I appreciate that, but I'm still curious.

>>165792184

I always pick industrious and thrifty. Talented seems good too. Fuck the rest.

>>165793287
I've got them already, so maybe I'm making the right choice.

I'm playing:

>Ethos -- Individualist, Materialist, Militarist.
>Government -- Plutocratic Oligarchy (to get my economy started, then I switch to Direct Democracy).
>Traits -- Industrious, Thrift, Repugnant, & Sedentary.

I had been thinking of using:

>Traits -- Enduring, Quick Learners, Talented, Repugnant, & Sedentary.

But only if Leader enhancements were a better choice than Pop enhancements.

>>165772981
Does the "alien overlord" malus expire?

>>165791438
Important question, does suika get bonuses to wine tiles?

>Be a race of machines
>only ever colonize two systems but they both have 6 planets each
>all of them are planet sized hive cities
>massive ships that can rival entire fleets on their own
>guarantee way too many independences
>2-3 wars every couple of years from rebelling worlds of my protectorates and vassals
>get pissed at all of these squabbling organics and just conqueror all the local trouble makers and turn it all into one big vassal state after I mad sure to turn most of the populace into my ethos

Your nation seems 10/10, would guarantee independence.

>>165794521
yes

>>165793659

Thats a good species. You can also take collectivist instead of individualist.

>>165782203
I'm not sure it is so much position as start. I was Soshone and I got like, 7 ruins, with I think at least 2 tech. Good shit senpai.

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So, how is this remotely a thing? This is just immortal, not even deity. I only had 200+ faith in religious victory playthroughs, and that's in industrial era or so, with tons of cities and all.

Here AI is whipping up 200 faith per turn. At turn 100. It's not like he owns those 16 cities either, he has seven. That's some 28 faith per city every turn. I don't get how it's achievable within this timeframe. I don't get how I can possibly hope to defend when he inevitably starts the apostle spam.

Someone better than me at this game, please enlighten me.

>>165798619
>please enlighten me
Don't worry, Hojo will soon

>>165798619
You can build districts and buildings that increase faith points per turn.

Is needing to use nukes to secure a victory considered bad?

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>>165795358
Yes.

>>165797136
Thanks.

I admit, I'm thinking of ditching Militarist and going for Fanatic Individualist/Materialist so that my Pops let me get away with murder.

The extra Energy income wouldn't hurt me either.

Horizon Signal turns all of your prime species Fanatic Militarist, anyway, so waging war after that triggers is easy.

I want some silly mega sized ships in stellaris, what mods are good for that?

>>165799959
Holy shit, F.Individualist lets you get away with fucking everything.

>>165798619
>Districts that usually gain +1/2 bonus for every adjacent district instead receive +1 bonus per adjacent district.

Holy sites get +2 faith per citizen working there. Shrine is +2, Temple is +4. If he has any religious buildings from the religion that can be more. Relics give +8. His civ likes religion and culture iirc, so it's also possible he's running cards that help.

Open up trade with him and see how many relics he has. If you have vision on his cities use the religion lens to see how much faith his holy sites are generating. Could also take his cities over to inspect the buildings.

>>165801012
New ship classes and more

Anybody find Horizon Signal on the high seas?
Or is it just included by default with 1.4?

I'm looking for a game that is turn-based, but has the same kind of base building as an RTS. Any ideas?

Where would an actually GOOD Civ V tier list be? Most of the ones seem to have some kinda off choices or don't actually explain why a certain Civ is in said tier.

Whoa, Mammalian 1 has the best name-list in the game. I love that their planets all have a built-in sense of history that lends itself to emergent storytelling.

>>165791438
>Cirno
THE STRONGEST

Stellaris noob here
How do I into politic in this game? Like forcing empires go to war with someone I don't like or have some kind of secret army(like privateer from endless legend) and attack some of their system?

>>165805943
Heroes of Might and Magic kinda fits that? A lot of that game rounds down to getting resources to upgrade your bases to get better units.

Fuck I need to go play HoMM 5 again now.

>>165811284
Isn't the fifth one the shittiest one? I think I tried it when it came it, the AI was absolutely brutal.

>>165811585
The shittiest one is the latest one.

>>165811284
>not HOMM3

>>165811785
The sixth one? I remember trying to play it. It was as trash as Unreal Tournament 3.

>>165811585
Nah the 4th is the worst, it had some good stuff but it was completely fucking busted, undead were literally unbeatable past a certain point due to being able to rez vampires out of enemies, said vampires had life drain which could rez dead vampires. You eventually ended up with a retarded amount of immortal vampires and just shit on everything.

Fuck necromancy got a massive nerf in 5 and was still OP before they nerfed it AGAIN. Shit was nuts

>>165809203
>How do I into politic in this game?
>stellaris
ignore it

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>>165811859
Hope you like your heroes with Learning and Eagle Eye specialty.
Also the combat is too cheesy because Speed both denotes the order of turns, the movement distance AND the casting tied to creature turns. Basically who goes first can wipe out 60% of an enemy army. Unless you fight someone like Tazar in late game.
Homm5 campaign is kinda shit wit the exception of TotE necro campaign, but still can't compete with Sandro "a thousand archliches" the Great.
>>165811935
The 7th one.
>>165812148
>Fuck necromancy got a massive nerf in 5 and was still OP before they nerfed it AGAIN. Shit was nuts
The best part of necromancy skill is it doesn't require a necro town to operate and scales with the number of necromancers. Necropolis sure loves high level heroes with Mentoring.

>>165813582
There's no seventh one, the last one is the sixth one. With Uplay.
Fuck Uplay.

>>165813714
http://store.steampowered.com/app/321960/

>>165813779
>evaluations : variable
So it's shit, got it.
I'll keep playing the third and the fourth one.

>>165814004
>the fourth one

>>165814117
I like being able to have 8 heroes in a party.

primarily living nation where necromancy is used as a source of labor and army WHEN

>>165814541
>heroes of annihilated empire
>the workers are necromancers

>>165814541
As far as the story is concerned that is actually the story of the necromancer in HoMM4.

IV, V, or VI?

Series newfag here

>>165814717
Never heard of it before now. Any good?

>>165814873
4 if you're an oldfag stuck in your ways
6 if you're from the future and the requisite expansions are out to fix everything wrong with it
5 otherwise

>>165815271
It's Cossacks 2, but in a fantasy universe.

>>165815458
Never played any cossacks either

>>165814873
III

>>165815547
Simply put, it's that kind of game where you need between 50 and 80 workers to have a decent economy, military units are not very expensive but you need 100 of them, and siege units will kill 30 units in one hit.

>>165806183
Guys?
Also, how the hell can you effectively wage war when you're stuck in a forest/jungle/hill area and can only move like 1 tile a turn? building a road works to get you to one spot slowly and prioritizing the wheel and road production that much can leave tiles unworked.

>>165816575
show some screenshots of your battle situation

>>165811935
The sixth one at least has a qt necromancer

>>165816892
Closed out and might abandon that game because fuckit. I went with random leader (only rerolled if I got an extremely underpowered one or one I already beat the game with) and got Nobunaga. The only civ that was close-ish and did not have a crap ton of bad terrain was the celts, and I couldn't really go after them since the Huns had 6 cities up, the largest army, and were constantly threatening to kill me (they were my 3rd closet neighbor, Siam was second). Ethiopia asked me to go to war with Atilla so I took the 'give me 10 turns' option. We wore him down but that was it.

As for why I might just abandon it, besides what I said, Alexander is on the other side of the continent so he's doing his thing and I can't reasonably get to him because Atilla is in the way, and he's been hostile all game because I owned land he coveted (literally my starting city on the corner of the continent way the fuck away from him).

>>165817508
What difficulty, anon?

>>165744539
I really like that paradox is actually paying attention to what people want to do

And by do I mean enslave/purge everyone and everything

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>>165744539
Looks like we're beginning to enter the 'it's decent now' phase of paradox games. It took almost exactly a year.

>>165744539
Oh great, now we're going to get some serious /gsg/ + /pol/ shitposting now

>>165753735
Its not just a patch, some of this is part of a free update and other parts are for the expansion thats releasing at the same time

Considering Heinlein + Leviathans took 3 months you can expect this to come out either in or after March

>>165806183

http://www.carlsguides.com/strategy/civilization5/

Not 100% complete but I found it useful when getting into Civ V.

As for tier list, I'm not sure of one. What helped me the most in Civ V, was think of what victory condition I wanted to attain and aim for that.

Stop being dead.

>>165825161
But I'm sleeping.

>Want to make a diverse cast of empires
>The arthropoids have all the best portraits
>Can't think of any good names anyway
Help me out, dead general.

>>165827491
>want to try and make a new race
>keep going racist science spiders

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>>165827491

How much and what has changed since patch 1.2?
Is the game more fun?

>>165829607
A lot has changed and it's better now, but if you wait for another month or so patch 1.5 and the new DLC will be available and it looks like that will improve it even more

>>165829707
Are there any almost-essential or just good mods?

>>165830002
I really like alpha mod and most of its submods
If you like more variety in your fleet you should add new ship classes & more, some shipsets you like and maybe some of the stellaris+ modules, like the expanded politics and techs pack

>>165827491
>arthropoids
disgusting xeno
the best is the butterfly

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>>165830095
I'll look into it
Thanks, man

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>>165830303
Kamen Riders will always be my main.
That and Jew Lobsters.

pg10

So if you've built up a Federation of bro-Empires and come across another Federation of ethically identical and chummy empires, is there any way to peaceably integrate or invite them over to your Federation?

>>165735225
For what game?

It would work for Civilization, but Stellaris needs to fix the gameplay before anything else.

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>>165835438
Civilization, it's already pretty much the only draw of Stellaris.
Also we need the fucking modding tools before I kill Sid with a flaming Todd.

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>>165835725
Stellaris still lacks the option of renaming your Rulers, which sucks, especially if you consider that it's quite normal for leaders to change their official name once they take the throne (even if it's just adding numbers and choosing which of their 6 first names to use).

It's literally the only character where I care about changing to a custom name, but it's the only one where I'm not allowed to do so. I don't know why, but this really bothers me.

>>165827491
Glorblaxians.

>>165837649
I feel you m8
Especially in a monarchy when your first ruler was named after some roman and his heir is called wei

>>165839687
"And here we see our glorious leader, the currently reigning Imperator Supremus, the great Gaius Stellarius Magnus III, together with his son, Prince Wei"

So, I was here yesterday asking a ton of questions about improving my build in Stellaris, and militarist was suggested, and that worked out okay -- until I realized that Horizon Signal turns Militarist pops into Fanatic Pacifists.

Now my empire's in open revolt because I'd been playing the game as a conqueror.

So I guess I'm going back to Fanatic Individualist/Materialist because at least then my Pops don't care about my policy choices.

will 1.5 save stellaris

>>165843254
It's looking like it might.

Varying levels of being a bastard should allow greater diplomatic options, and the aspects that they've cribbed from Civ V will allow for even greater customization.

>>165821220
It's still far from decent since the combat is still shit, all the empires are still bland and the same and the ai is still to retarded to develop planets.

>>165843729
>beginning to enter

>>165844606
Okay, but they still need to fix many of the main mechanics for it to even resemble a strategy game. Those mechanics should have been okay at release. Although the next patch looks promising it has no solid base to build upon. At the very least combat and diplomacy should work properly before paradox introduces new mechanics. Without a solid base game I'm afraid this patch/dlc isn't going to solve anything.

>tfw no espionage in stellaris

>>165820004
Emporer.
I only beat King a few times because I suck and am too passive with military. Another game I tried recently I was the Huns and Poland got too huge and I didn't take the chance to take the out because I declared myself their friend and thought that combined with warmonger penalties would make everybody attack me at once.

>>165846520
Espionage in stellaris would be interesting considering the whole penalty for more population and planet penalties. This means they could change it so the player could decide where to spread their technology, making some worlds "low tech" and their main shipyards and research planets "high tech". Limiting the exposure for spies. A low tech planet might be limited to colony level techs, limited to "makeshift powerplant" and "basic farm" but not count at all towards research penalties, and spies wouldn't be able to steal techs from that planet. A planet set to be "current" level tech would have all the bonuses from research and access to all the buildings, but spies who gain access to that system would be able to pick and chose any tech used. A planet set to R&D would have "cutting edge" level tech and a spy would have access to any known tech.

>>165851938
>tfw ywn instigate a rebellion on a planet near your border, before supporting the civil war and swooping in to save those poor rebels, making you look good in the eyes of the rest of the galaxy's polities (in the process taking the planet for yourself)

Stellaris question.

I'm looking at Theocratic Republic (Individualist/Spiritualist) and I'm wondering if it's a better choice than Direct Democracy (Individualist/Materialist).

With Direct Democracy (F-Individualist/Materialist) you don't have to worry about ethic diversion, because your pops are so happy they don't care.

You could do F-Individualist/Spiritualist and get that same effect, plus ethics diversion reduction and a food bonus that would stack with your point in Spiritualism -- but is that worth the loss of the experience gain, the Materialist building, and the bonus to science?

Spiritualist does get you access to psionic technology, but I'm not sure if it's worth it.

Your thoughts?

>>165828940

That faction with industrious and thrifty and plutocratic oligarchy for maximum greed. Still good at war and everything.

>>165853515
Would F-Spiritualist/Individualist/Theocratic Republic be a good choice? Would the help with ethics diversion have as much a positive effect on your pops as F-Individualist?

I understand that starting as a Plutocratic Oligarchy to get your economy up and running is a good strategy, and this way you get to do that, because you aren't F-Individualist.

>>165851938

I would be content with knowing the techs used in the opponents navy after the borders are closed, along with the real number of their ships. Nothing else matters much anyway. That way it would be easier to upgrade ships to a direct counter.

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>>165854251

Nvm, fanatic materialist instead of individualist. The building cost reduction would stack with plutocratic oligarchy bonus.

>>165843254
nah

What is the best way to get rid of the planet cap in Stellaris? I am fed up with this shitty Sector AI and limiting my Empires expansion whilst I am forced to build up and develop whole planets.

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MISSILES

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I'm not an expert, but that welcome screen worked fine before I installed the expanded UI mod.

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>tfw Amplitude dev stream in 2 days showcasing next ES2 update
Here's to another step towards 4xg content other than stellaris.

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You're fucking telling me I went through the trouble of installing all of that shit just to be able to cater to FUCKING CASUALS WHO NEEDS FUCKING CHECKPOINTS EVERY THREE MINUTES?
Back in my fucking days, you had to beat Metal Sonic AND Robotnik WITHOUT ANY FUCKING RING, and you had to FIGURE OUT HOW BY FUCKING YOURSELF. No floating arrow, no "egawd if he hits me here I take damage" bullshit.

>>165856941
>I am fed up with this shitty Sector AI
I wish I knew what was up with that
>go over cap
>MAKE A SECTOR SEMPAI
>use only fully developed planets
>fuck with the options so they wont demolish what I built
Later...
>planet finishes terraforming
>colonize
>it's inside the sector so I can't touch it
>AI gets to 8 pop without a single building
>mess up with the options again
>it starts building
Later...
>check the planet
>13 pop
>1 fucking building
ech

I'd settle for a mod that just removes the penalties to being over cap. I'll manage everything, just playing in tiny maps ATM anyway so it's no skin off muh back.

>>165856941
Just pick one specific ethos/government combination and research increased planet cap anon :^)

what's a good way to produce happiness in stellaris late game? it went down a shitton after a couple wars (zenophiliacs all over the place) and never came back up. only 1+ in purple space-peen (bc frontier posts) so to keep enacting propaganda bullshit all over the place is no good and so far only constant wandering troupe shows have kept it up.

will elections solve that?

Is Stellaris worth buying?

Any tips for the first time? In terms of empire creation?

>>165856941
http://stellaris.smods.ru/archives/123

By using this mod, but it has an option "no sectors" and gives you the possibility to manage 9999 planets on your own OR let the new autobuild do it for you, but you still have complete freedom.

When you choose edict it costs some ethic divergence, but it can be removed use 7zip to open archive of the mod and right click edit on the edict text file about autobuilding, go to

country_edict = {
name = "no_sector"
modifier = {
country_core_sector_system_cap = 900
pop_ethic_shift = 0.1

and change pop_ethic_shift = 0.1 to pop_ethic_shift = 0
Make sure you just use edit function from within 7zip else u'll fuck compression up.

In MOO2 can i exchange my techs with the AI for food techs i cannot research, but need for my fleshling slaves?

What are the best traits for a first time player?

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>>165858435
what game

>>165862464
I'm not sure but it looks like AI War

>>165861261

>Buying , It depends on your economic situation
lots of good stuff gets added on DLC and not in the main update ( like the Leviathans content )

I recommend trying it first , get to late game then experiment with a few mods and JUST then make the final decision

>>165861261
>buying
nope

>>165861454

900 core and no ethics divergence? Where is the fun in that?

>>165863180
What do you mean? It dosen't remove the ethics divergence from game, the mod itself adds 15% or more ethic divergence empire wide just because it was written to do so.

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>>165862464
AI War.

A really strange game.

>>165861261
you just missed a sale so i'd say no, get it ext time because you can just dump pirated dlc in the folder ad it works fine no activator needed.
Unless you have friends that want to multi, it's a pretty fun game for that.

>>165863316

Thought "pop_ethic_shift=0" was a removal

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>>165859389
That is why you should have went with the best goddess.

>>165861261

>worth buying

Ofc not, its 2017!

Still better than all other garbage posted here (Im talking from stellaris perspective ofc)

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>>165865093
This is so advanced shitposting I'm not even sure what it's trying to say now.

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I'll have to seriously give that game a try.

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>>165864917
Noire is even worse.
ASIC is the best nation to play as.
>10 000 dogoos
>5 000 eggplants knights
Lastation better roll for anal circumference. Planeptune is next.

>>165863393
Stellaris is on sale right now for 33% off.

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>>165861261
If you can wait ...wait.
Its neato but it should get a pretty huge update "soon".

is civ6 good yet? to make it clear, I enjoyed it and I am quite fond of pigs, but it got stale fast due to various reasons, like shitty balance and dumb diplomacy

>>165866540
Its fun
I loved the battles and the design system

>>165867730
What would be the mechanical difference between utopian and good living conditions.

>>165871564
I assume an extra happiness bonus and an empire wide energy malus

A bit of a dumb question, but is there any game where you can build units but you don't actually give them orders?
I'm thinking of a game like Majesty where you just build stuff, or Caesar 3 where you just send armies on the world map, but with an emphasis on training, logistic, and town developement.

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>>165791438
>play with dumb 2hu civs
>i'm not doing that well, but at least i'm ahead of everyone close to me
>see that one undiscovered civ is just stealing all the wonders and is getting miles ahead of everyone else
>don't think that much about it, probably just a particularly OP mod
>finally discover who it is
>it's THE STRONGEST
This situation requires more booze. Also I need to step up my research and military.

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>>165873189
>plays with neps
>do poorly because I'm hilariously shit at civ games
>even in easy mode, even fucking Neptune is right behind me constantly

I'm stuck in Horizon Signal.

Is there a guide out there anywhere?

I've researched and built the Loop Institute and the Spiral-Feed Power Hub.

What's next?

>>165853515
My counter question would be why would you want the ethics divergence reduction from spiritualist? You already correctly stated that this doesn't really matter thanks to individualism, so essentially all that's left is the food bonus. Imho not really worth it.

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>>165874097
Kind of have to agree with this anon...spiritualist tries the exact opposite of individualism in terms of ethics. I don´t see any reason to take that combo

>>165861454
There any way to make the mod just remove the cap and leave everything else alone?

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>>165873486
Is that the Neptune mod where all her cities are puppets unless she transforms? Because then I have no idea how it's even physically possible for her to keep up, the AI has no clue how to play that.

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Using the fast forward option was a mistake
this will take ages to complete

Whats a good comp for max happiness?

In Stellaris, everytime I try to make a mod to change some defines (core sector cap) it causes the game to crash once it hits 100%.
Has anyone else encountered this issue before?

>>165874097
>>165875105
It allows me to start the game as a Plutocratic Oligarchy, then transition to Theocratic Republic/Transcendent Republic once I've got my economy running. I can't do that if I'm Fanatic Individualist, and regular Individualist isn't enough to keep your people happy when you screw around with your policies.

It's a kind of compromise between the two playstyles, and it's serving me well in my current game -- it's also fun to roleplay.

>>165876773

Yes , if two mods load the same line and you edit only one of them it will cause a conflict and crash
I had to check all of my mods to see if they had conflicts or not

>>165877123
That's such a pain. I guess that's what I get for making the mods myself. Thanks for the info.

>>165874097
>>165875105
It allows me to start the game as a Plutocratic Oligarchy, then transition to Theocratic Republic/Transcendent Republic once I've got my economy running.

I can't do that if I'm Fanatic Individualist, and regular Individualist isn't enough to keep your people happy when you screw around with your policies.

It's a kind of compromise between the two playstyles, and it's serving me well in my current game.

It's also fun to roleplay.

>>165876773
There's a single line you have to change to remove the penalty to having more planets than the core sector cap. Wish I could remember what it was.

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>>165873189
King Cirno?

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>>165879173
Queen, actually.
She has Crayons as a unique luxury resource.

>>165876773
Okay I found out what my issue was:
I was using notepad to do the .lua change. Notepad just fucks it up somehow and it doesn't work. I used textpad instead and it worked like a charm.
Notepad, not even once.

>>165866540
>There are three human genders
>the third is strictly for pleasure

Traps?

>>165880543
homosexuals.

>>165880595
Gays aren't a gender anon.

>>165880543
futa

>>165880942
True, they're more of a mental illness.

>>165875661
Well the mod has autobuild disabled by default you activate parts of it as needed so yes, just edit what I told you - it's very easy takes ya' 30 seconds.

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>>165867730
>Living standards.
Finally!

Now I can accomplish my lifelong dream of creating a dystopian galactic regime where aliens with a specific set of physical characteristics are exalted over all others while their fellow aliens with inconsequentially different appearance must fight in the streets to survive!

>>165735230
Is this game worth 80 jewbucks

>>165877102
I thought the original comparison was Fan Indiv + Spiritualist vs. Fan Indiv + Mat.

But ok, then my follow up question would be: If you're going full anti ethics divergence with fanatic spiritualist instead, why even have individualist in there? The effect will be completely wasted on your main species, and even any xenos you conquer later will only gain 30% reduction with regular individualist, which is ok, but not groundbreaking.

That being said, in the case of stellaris, roleplay always trumps everything as far as I'm concerned. If you like the flavour of it, go for it.

>>165839687
>>165840427
kek
>taking a xeno for a son
disgusting

>>165879412
who could declare war on that?

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>>165886215
Indeed, who would be cruel enough to just fly around and start bullying fairies...

>>165859943
>a mod that just removes the penalties to being over cap
You don't even need a mod for that. It's in some config setting. I think they were talking about it in the previous thread.

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>playing Stellaris
>can't roll/reroll names for ship classes
>start naming them all after metal albums
>mfw it works surprisingly well

What happens when I play commonwealth of man and meet humans from sol, are they treated as xenos? Is there a way to fix this if that's the case?

>>165888462
You're literally manually renaming each ship one by one?

Enjoy having you work destroyed when they all get blown up to hell by some FE. Better to make a Name List mod for it.

>>165890650
Ship classes, senpai.

>>165890074
I found out how to fix it - same species portrait, same namelist same order of traits result in same race, using a mod tho to remove all preset races and made my own custom humans.

>>165890961
Ah, my bad then.

I always do the boring thing and name them after mythological creatures and heroes. Maybe I'll try your idea or something similar next time.

What kind of Empire are you running?

>>165891119
Nothing really special, just a typical militant theocracy. Been mostly peaceful because I had plenty of room to expand to in my neck of the galaxy but that's about to change real soon.

>>165888462
I went with civ5 leaders for ship classes my first game and lotr ainur in my second game

Is nuking people bad?

>>165892817

only if you can't fool the world into believing that you are doing the right thing

>>165892817
Killing people is always bad, Anon.

The question is whether it's necessary or not.

anyone still play alpha centauri?

>>165893471
>>165893702
What if I just wait until they can't do anything about it? Having 3 of your cities totally irradiated and destroyed as well as having old enemies nearby liberated surely makes fighting back harder, right?

>>165894109
Actually their luxury goods will be split among fewer people, so they'll be better off for having you nuke them.

>>165894581
But they get less production, their workers and military units die, and usually they let go of one of their cities after getting a few fat men.

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>everyone hates alice

>>165886215
Not even even cute fairies can stop me from warmongering. It is the Oni way.

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I'm looking to pick up Endless Legend again after eons of not playing it. But now there are all these new and exciting expansions!

I probably don't want to buy them all but I was thinking about picking up one. Any recommendations on which one adds the best race and the most fun changes, 4chan?

>>165895262
>Imperial Empire
Gotta love Civ Names By Policy.

>>165895262
>oni united states

>>165895262
Seems Japan defeated the US

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>>165895929
There's nothing more imperial than the Grand Imperal Empire. It was much weirder when they were the Imperial Kingdom.

Guys, what would be a good tier list for Civ V?

>>165883586
It also helps a lot with diplomacy.

Individualists aren't seen as threatening as the potential-slavers, potential-purgers.

The Individualist ethos gives a nice buffer before the F-Spiritualist turns them to my Ethos, and the happiness bonus granted by Theocratic Republic is also very nice.

The empire runs very smoothly; this game is going very well.

>>165898708
I find it hard to believe that your people would still believe in magic spirits even after developing an interstellar empire.

>>165899295
When psi tech, weird space whales and the unbidden exist in their universe, and with the planned ascension stuff, they are fully correct in their spiritual beliefs desu

>>165899295
I've presented my reasoning, and it's working out well for me so far -- better than it did when I was playing as a Direct Democracy with F-Individualist and Materialist.

The Individualist here gets my a buffer-zone when I conquer, and the Theocratic Republic gets me a happiness bonus as well as the Galactic Stock Exchange building.

F-Spiritualist brings xenos to my Empire's way of thinking -- which makes them happy -- and opens the way for psionic technology.

It works better than you'd think.

I've tried playing Divine Mandates, and I end up with repatriation factions and neighbors who hate me because they're worried I'll purge someone.

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>>165895831
All of them are well worth the cash so here's a rundown of each:

>Shifters
Less of adding a mechanic and more drastically improving on an existing one aka winter. Pearls and shrine of auriga are great additions, but unfortunately the Allayi suffer a lot when trying to keep up (you know a faction has it rough when they're preferred victory type is fucking quest of all things, and don't think you can rush it either you need hyperium for that shit).

>Shadows
Espionage mechanic is great and adds plenty of creative ways to win wars, especially for factions with high dust income to purchase spies (upkeep is reduced while infiltrated by a fairly hefty amount). Forgotten are fun as fuck with their research mechanic but its slightly painful to play against AI since they tend to research shitty techs.

>Tempest
Basically turns the formerly barren oceans into a terrain type all its own, controlled with neutral camps rather than cities. Fortresses offer a multitude of bonuses but while they're easy to gain they're not so easy to keep if youre at war. Morgawr are super fucking cheeky and its great. You're not the best expander in the world but you've got plenty of tools to keep everyone else fighting themselves and not you.

Guardians is pretty good too, and Echoes of Auriga is a must buy for that sweet ass soundtrack.

All in all they both provide plenty of stuff to the point where you really can't compare them as they're all pretty good quality. Just get what you think you'd like I guess.

>>165900706
>both
By both I mean all, I'm retarded.

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>>165900484
>>165899295
There's also the Horizon Signal and the whole Russell's teapot event line that prove "magical spirits". And drive materialists insane when they try to rationalize them.

Atheists are deluding themselves in Stellaris.

>>165901445
As someone who built his species so that they'd benefit the most from Horizon Signal, the Worm is actually the subject of their religion.

Like I said, the roleplaying is fun.

All are One in the Worm.

>>165902148
What happens if humans use the horizon signal, they become an other humanoid type?

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>>165902148
>Playing these guys
>Dimensional Horror opens a hole in the fabric of reality
>"Are you winning, son?"

>>165902285
That's what I'd picture a race which would worship some extra dimensional reality warping entity to look like. Humans shouldn't worship such a thing.

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>>165902234
Humans turn into these guys.
>>165902521
>Shouldn't
If it was ever out of your control, it was always out of your control.

>more people on steam are playing civ5 over civ6
>more people stream civ5 over civ6
>the biggest civ streamers prefer 5 over 6
lol

>>165904560
It's not so strange.

Civ6 is over a requirement threshold so not as many are able to play and stream civ6.

As for the biggest civ streamers, a lot of them are part of a sub community started in civ5 that uses specific mod that has a different meta from the base game. Also a custom map script which means they play on the same type of map all the time. The group almost immediately got a new mod to change the way civ6 was played to add increased tech cost from #cities, since that's what they were used to play with.

>>165902285
What do arthropoids look like when they finish the event?

Be straight with me, guys -- is Divine Mandate a better choice than Theocratic Republic?

If so, why?

I know we've had this discussion before, but the roleplaying wouldn't be functionally different and I'm interested in playing the best species I can.

>>165906004
I don't think your species avatar change from that event.

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>>165906609
It does. Mammalians turn into this thing.

>>165906598
republic

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>>165906712
Molluscoids turn into this handsome devil.

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>>165906847
And Reptilians turn into this spiky-headed loverboy.

>>165906712
shut
>>165906847
the
>>165907091
fuck
>>165902684
up

>>165907256
Do you want to talk about your anger issues?

>>165906787
Thanks. I just realized that the Ethos change caused by Horizon Signal would be really, really bad if it was from Collectivist to Individualist.

>>165907595
not really but thanks for asking :)

hello. I was told that I could get some tips about Aurora 4x at this thread.
is it better to focus on infrastructure and economy or should I always go 50/50 on military/development from the start?
also carriers. are they worth the money? should I use minicarriers with just one bay and engine or bigger ones with more capacity, weapons, and stuff?

>>165909285
Hello!

>>165876424
empires are too stable, fast forwaring does nothing.
I once ran a game like 500 years into the future by leaving the game overnight and everything was still the same

>>165909424
Did you check it wasn't actually 5 months because you got an event that pauses the game?

Has Stellaris changed much since release? I played it back then a bit and thought it was a good start but needed more polishing/content adding.

Also is vassalizing the AI still as stupidly overpowered as it used to be? Seemed like you could snowball ridiculously fast into a massive death ball of AI followers using this strategy and wasn't much you could do to counter it besides create your own death ball.

>>165909802
>Has Stellaris changed much since release?
not really, improved sector AI, improved warscore, added some new quest chains, added new portraits, added some boss type enemies roaming around the galaxy but the guts of the game hasn't really been touch, that being diplomacy and combat. So effectively they changed it into a shinier piece of shit.

>>165901445
Russell's teapot was clearly a joke though

>>165909463
>look at the date
>its 500 years later

>>165909424
>fast forwaring does nothing.
this

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>>165909967
exactly how I would describe it, polishing a turd. Hopefully the Ascension stuff helps a bit, like to see some expanded trade and diplomacy rules too.