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Who is ready for disappointment?
http://steamcommunity.com/games/281990/announcements/detail/641035011376782852

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H-help !

>>165343019
which browser game is this?

>>165342925
They are trying to make it more similar to Civ/Beyond Earth when they should be going the Grand Strategy with more complex diplomacy and empire administration.

It'd probably still be fun, just not what I expected.

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>>165342925
>http://steamcommunity.com/games/281990/announcements/detail/641035011376782852
>The Synthetic Path focuses on the replacement of biology with machinery. The first level allows you to turn your population partly synthetic through the use of cybernetics, while the second level replaces your biological pops with robots, turning your empire entirely synthetic.
I'm guessing organic turned synth leaders still die of "old"?

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Reposting because the two lonely souls playing EL might not read the old thread
I've won three games in EL so far. Wildwalkers Domination on normal, cultist Elimination win on Hard and vaulters science win on serious. Now for the last two difficulties i wanna go for a diplomacy win with the drakken and an economic win with the broken Lords. Which one should I play on impossible, which one on endless? Also how much should I expand for either win? With the vaulters i didn't hold more than 20% of the regions but only fought one war and almost won diplomacy win bc of my alliances as my army was too weak to risk bad relationships.

>There are two ‘sequels’ that are partly underway. Aurora 2, written in C#, and Newtonian Aurora, which is in VB6. Aurora 2 has nicer graphics but in the end Aurora was never about graphics – it’s about gameplay. It’s really an old style wargame with many RPG elements that you happen to play on a PC. The computer makes playing easier but you could replicate a lot of the game with pen, paper, some dice and a calculator. The action is taking place in your head, not on the screen. So I guess Aurora 2 is on hold because I would rather add new features than spend time making the game look prettier.

>Newtonian Aurora is an attempt to create a version of Aurora based on real Newtonian physics, rather than the wet-Navy physics used in Aurora (explained away with the some techno-babble). Its a lot more advanced in terms of development than Aurora 2, a lot more complex than Aurora and has some very cool features. That is also on hold for the moment, mainly due to a lack of free time since I started my current job, but I am more likely to go back to that than Aurora 2.

Wow okay uh fuck off

>>165343741
No they confirmed that synths are immortal

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>>165344232
Play Forgotten on Endless and add 1 Necrophage and 4 non-Necrophage races.

Watch Necrophages destroy everybody else and then just crush their capital with the use of 2x 3 moral decreases and 1x 100% fortification reduction.

Yeah boyo!

>>165345314
what the fuck does this faggot think he's doing that's absolutely not at all how you pet a cat this triggers me so much

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Reposting from old bread:
If i want go full autist and have literally the best yelds/pops/turf in Master of magiv, what's the best wizard/race build?
I can't decide between Dwarves and Dark Elves for the title of "holy shit why can't o hold all this EVERYTHING".
Also, i'd want Myrran and Warlord, but i ALSO need the spellbooks in life and nature to get the town enchanents. Is it more reliable to get talents in wizard creation and spellbooks in the overworld or vice-versa?

>>165346042
Well, if you want to REALLY abuse some mechanics...
There's a white city enchant that removes unhappiness. Cast it and increase tax to max
Either that or a zombie-trolls.
You can also try a master-summoner build.

>>165343696
Well we are going to get species policies and eatable pops ~ so its a start.

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>>165343696
>Grand Strategy with more complex diplomacy and empire administration.

>>165348912
But can we convert Albanians into energy credits?

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>>165349119
I can do that too. See?

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>>165349119
What exactly did you mean by this

>>165346042
>the best yelds/pops/turf in Master of magiv
>best yield/pop
dark elf
>best yield/turf
dwarf


Assuming you're not a nature wizard who can reshape the land you may have city locations that are very limited in population.
While a 25 pop dark elf city beats all other cities in yields, and a 25 pop high elf city beats all other arcanian cities in yields, both of them lack some infrastructure that puts them behind beastmen/draconians and highmen/nomad/orc/halflings at certain pop levels.


>what's the best wizard/race build?
5 Sorcery, 2 Life, 2 Chaos, Artificer, Runemaster as High Men

>>165345207
Neat. Guess it'll have a downside like -1000 diplomacy to spiritual empires or something.

>>165348180
So Dwarves would be extremely good rather than Dark Elves, giving the existance of this enchantement?
I was looking for tips in wizard creation: for example, what are the minimum life/nature picks required to cast all the town enchants?
Also, which are easier to find im the map, talents or spell picks?

>>165343019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1m4lP5Nil8

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>>165349797
>what are the minimum life/nature picks required to cast all the town enchants?

Well with 5 life spellbooks you'll be able to research 3/10 very rare spells, and there are 3 very rare town enchantments in the life school.

you need 10 spell books to guarantee that you get all 3 of them, and thus all 10 of them.


>So Dwarves would be extremely good rather than Dark Elves, giving the existance of this enchantement?
Dwarves may pay more taxes innately, but dark elves have access to banks and merchant guilds.

Also you get a buttload of money as high elves with the stream of life.

>Also, which are easier to find im the map, talents or spell picks?
Spellbooks are more common in any given node.
But Sorcery nodes can only yield Sorcery Spellbooks, not any other type of spellbook.
While you can learn Archmage from all types of encounter zones.

>>165344232
Drakken are a bit weaker than BL, so I'd say do them on impossible. As to expansion - with drakken you only need a few regions, BL on the other hand are extremely expansionist by design.

>>165345730
Anon my cat loved when I did that and absolutely hated when anyone tried to touch him with open palm.

Stars in Shadow coming out EA on the 19th anyone played it ? Is it any good ?

>>165351229
It's very simplistic, but it's good fun. Not sure if it's worh 25$, but is a decent game non the less. Still has better trade system than stellaris.

>>165350564
Thank you anon.
EL is such a great game, I like it better than civ or stellaris, shame that It's not more popular.

>>165351229
I tested it a while back, and it was an unpolished Master of Orion 2.

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>>165351229
It's okay, but I'm really surprised that they're releasing this early. Kind of simple and I do have some objections with the overall balance/mechanics of the game, but I've had fun with it. Enslaving all the weird shit in the galaxy and committing space genocide is kind of fun.

As the other Anon said it's kind of overpriced. I honestly wouldn't get it right now unless you're really craving for exactly this kind of game, and even then it's just kind of fun, not really great.

If there's interest, I can post about it on the 19th to see if the full release is a significant update.

Also Gremak Master Race.

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>>165351594
It would get popular if it was marketed more like how they market Civilization.

The problem may be that a lot of people like the historical part of Civ and that its more casualized compared to EL which is deeper and the combat actually need you to plan it out if you have special abilities on your units.

DONT AUTO COMBAT against units with Stun, Beam attack etc...
The auto combat computer will do the same retarded move all the time.

I only Auto Combat when I have an overwhelming force.

Another tip, build military reguarly.

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>>165352421
Heard there would be an update on the 19th.
But yes it seemed neat but not great yet.

Kind of suprised by the early release myself.
Would be appreciated if you could give a run down on the 19th

>>165353212
Oh, Event Horizon.

>>165342925
I'm psyched!

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https://www.games2gether.com/endless-space-2/blog/493-endless-day-stream-celebration

>>165345185
Once in a while I consider making something like Aurora, because it's relatively easy to do this kind of development in C#. But I like realism, which means having realistic orbital mechanics, which means it's too much of a pain in the ass for the player to do navigation, which means the AI will end up doing it which isn't as fun.

>>165356272
Realistic orbital mechanics are pretty simple if you've taken physics
Just pretend relativistic effects don't exist, which is reasonable for most orbits that do not involve stellar remnants.

>>165345185
Aurora 2 isnt the same as C# Aurora which is in the works right now by the dev

>>165349179
Soon. We will convert them to food first.

>>165357306
>Aurora 2 isn't the same as C# Aurora
>Aurora 2, written in C#,
?

>>165343741

>Ix'Idar star collective

God I hate those fucking worms! Its like a fast growing tumor.

>>165357773
>Aurora 2
a sequel written in C#
inactive since 2012 (?)

>C# Aurora
rewrite of VB6 Aurora into C#
the current, active project

>>165357863
Fucking worms boxed me in last game.

>>165358378
Ah makes sense

>>165358731

Last game I started in insanity I had them spawn right next to me and they were advanced AI (2 planets ahead). Managed to make a defensive pact with some other faction nearby to put the cancer to an halt.

I was in Ironmode and tried a rush. By around 20 years after start I attacked with 2.2k and two fortresses (level1). Faggots had 3k and superior armaments. I lost.

Its impossible on insanity to rush an advanced AI. Too much power. The best approach is to box them, make an alliance diplomatically and expand passive afterwards to gain momentum.

>>165358731

Also that hive mind tumor is KoS. They turn against you sooner or later and spread like cockroaches.

>>165359436

Now that I think of it, maybe if I had upgraded the spaceport and placed the fortresses next to it I could stand a chance.

>>165353212
I was hesitant to buy it at first, because of the fantasy setting and I personally like sci-fi and history better but it's at least not your typical orcs and elves, sure it's similar but still unconventional. I kinda fucked up my production with the vaulters that's why my military was pretty weak. Might have to do with the higher difficulty.

>tfw no one to play moo2 online with

>>165360758
Just play MoO3.

>>165342925
>accompanying the 1.5 'Banks' update
J E W S

>>165360824
>Moo3
There is no Moo3.

There's Moo1, Moo2 and then the remake.

>>165356376
Yeah the mechanics themselves are simple. The problem is that it becomes too hard for the player to do strategic thinking when the time it takes to get from Earth to Mars varies wildly depending on the alignment of the planets.

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>>165349797
>>165346042
Let me know if you have any more ponderings and how your game is going if you've started.


I made a chart a while back where I could put in pop numbers, cryxs near the city and so on to see which race yielded the most power.

Dark Elves are superior at pop 9-25 and pop 9 cities aren't hard to aim for, even if you cram a lot of them in there.
You don't have to go soley with one race as well. Some races may have weaknesses you can't easily cover up with magic.
Like in my current game I'm playing as halflings and their strength is high figure units, which make them very weak against spells that affect effery figure in the unit like Flame Strike.

It can also be good to have different races even if you don't plan to use their units.
There's a trade bonus in the game that goes up to 75%.
A city can get 3% trade bonus per pop, and it can fill that trade from various sources.
The +10% gold you get from settling on a coast, is a trade bonus. You don't actually get +10% bonus immediately, the city has to grow up to pop 4 to make use out of it.
Rivers give +20% trade bonus.
Then you can get a trade bonus from roads.
If you have two cities that are connected to eachother by roads, they give eachother a trade bonus based on the race and the pop.
I think it's +2% trade bonus per pop if it's another race, and +1% trade bonus per pop if it's the same race.
So a large road network on a huge continent and you can probably bring the trade bonus up to 75%, but on smaller continents it may be a problem.
Nomads get +50% trade bonus so they don't have to rely on roads.

When settling cities I tend to prioritize power generation though so generally dark elves are fine.
Rule of thumb:
pop 7-25 = dark elves
pop 1-6 and coastal = draconians
pop 1-6 and not coastal = beastman

Beastmen don't have access to the merchant guild while, draconians do, and it requires the city to be on the coast.

>>165361194
I actually liked MoO3 but then again im an Aurora player so i dont mind excel spreadsheets.

>>165361194
Just what did MoO3 did that made it so fucking awful? I heard nothing but hate for 3 and nothing but love for 2. How did they manage to fuck something up that bad?

>>165361492
>pop 7-25 = dark elves
I meant 8-25
then 1-7

>>165361515
>I actually liked MoO3 but then again im an Aurora player so i dont mind excel spreadsheets.
It wasnt even a good spreadsheet simulator. KILL YOURSELF.
>>165361525
I can't find the article, but basically the head artist they hired for the 3rd game was butt buddies with an executive. He threw out all the old school art designs, and then proceeded to tell the designers how to do their jobs too DESPITE NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT GAME DESIGN, all with backing by the execs.

Also, I can't remember which part of this is accurate, but either Quicksilver Software, Inc. never had anyone from the original 2 games working on 3, or the artist pissed them off so bad they left. Either way, it released with none of the previous people who worked on the other two games having contributed to the 3rd much at all.

>>165361492
Different anon here.

If you don't mind me asking, what's your opinion on Nomads? I've been thinking of getting into MoM and they seem like a good starting race.

>>165362418
I think they're very good.
I think it's the favourite race of one of my friends who got me into MoM.

Nomads, Orcs, High Men and High Elves are among the "Advanced Arcanian Races", so they have most infrastructure.

They have Rangers which is basically a unit of aragorns. They have pathfinding, a decent ranged attack and a decent melee attack, and they have 2 movement.
Most units have 1 movement, cav have 2 and some fast fliers have 3 basically.
Rangers are only 4 figure so I generally prefer Slingers and Longbowmen to them when it comes to ranged attackers.

Their Griffins is a top tier unit. First Strike and Armor Piercing like Elven Lords and Paladins, and they fly so they can initiate more and get more use out of the first strike.

The only thing I think they're really missing out on is magicians, but I don't always use them.

>>165352421
This looks pretty simple. What's good about it?

>>165361515
I liked MoO 3 as well, but shit is flung at it for good reasons.
It's awfully unpolished in its final (official) form and despite trying to make empire management comfy some of the mechanics like spying and ship design are an annoying chore.

>>165342925
>make sure to give us more of your money for something that should have been in our empty as fuck game from the beginning

>>165365772
Oh man, you should check out Paradox's other games. There's this whole subgenre of strategy roleplaying games called "grand strategy", all made by Paradox Interactive, all with 10+ DLC that add sprites, music, or gameplay changes that modders had already done.

>>165366125
I still can't over how they made Sabaton DLCs for EU4 and HoI4

>>165366280
Sabaton has the best music. It really makes me feel like I'm Renaissance Hitler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9V-tGUou-M

>>165366975
Don't get me wrong, I love their music but I don't exactly listen to metal while playing grand strategy games.

Outside of some Iron Savior or Mechina while playing Stellaris, that is.

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>>165366280
Wasnt the dlc for HoI4 just 4 songs of which 1 is actually new/made for the game?

>>165366280
>Sabaton
What?

>>165367534
retarded heavy metal shit for historical strategy games

>>165367497
5 songs and nope.

>>165367534
http://store.steampowered.com/app/415680/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/461800/

>>165367656
>heavy metal
>for historical strategy games
Huh.

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>>165363623
There's ship design and turn based combat, some population mechanics that are okay. Oh, and combat is just stupidly brutal, where wars can depopulate a galaxy fast.
Personally I like that terraforming and the like is fairly late in the game, and population density is very important, so there's a very tangible benefit towards "acquiring" and distributing species across you empire, either as members or as slaves.
Trade is hugely improved by having good diplomatic relations with other empires, since you always want to expand your maximum number of active trade lanes, which means that aggressive empires lose out on profits (though it's unfortunately still really easy to make a fuckton of cash even if you're isolated). While easy, I enough of an easily pleased retard to enjoy planning out and building fully optimised planets with high pop density and no wasted/lacking labour force.

But it definitely is simple, and I get the impression that it isn't ever trying to be terribly complex. It just kind of works.
There's not a whole lot of micro involved, apart from fleets I guess. You can play it fairly quickly.

I like SiS, I've had fun with it, but it's not something I'd unconditionally recommend.

>>165365772
Paradox is horrible when it comes to DLC. CK2 has more than 60 DLCs by this point.
The game came out five years ago and they just announced another DLC. Making a badish base game and then adding DLC for at least half a decade seems to be their business model.

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>>165367790
It was honestly a disgusting shock when I heard retarded metal screaming and chanting when I went to war in MEIOU & Taxes
Like seriously what the fuck

Could someone please upload https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=220412890 this mod somewhere? It's literally the ONLY mod that doesn't work with the Steam Workshop downloader, and it's by far the most important one for me. Would be greatly appreciated

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New blog!

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-56-ascension-perks.994061/

>>165367851
Paradox deserves to go under.

>>165367790
>>165367914
Man, I'm a Sabaton fan and their music isn't exactly the kind of thing I'd listen to while playing a fucking grand strategy game

The Lion From the North sure goes well with watching two giant guys shoot at each other while a bunch of numbers go down. In fucking Bosnia.

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>>165367851
>Paradox is horrible when it comes to DLC. CK2 has more than 60 DLCs by this point
I´m still wondering who has the shittier DLC policy: Paradox or Overkill or that Train Simulator game with like 4k€ worth of dlc

>>165367851
>Oh, and combat is just stupidly brutal, where wars can depopulate a galaxy fast.
As in planet cleansing that people have to re-populate later? Have you had a game where peace was declared and both sides had to recolonize and rearm?

Sounds bolo-esque if so.
>so there's a very tangible benefit towards "acquiring" and distributing species across you empire, either as members or as slaves.
No bio-engineering your own people?

>>165368814
Does AoW3 even HAVE dlc? I thought there was just that one expansion.

Honestly I liked Shadow Magic better. The new system where explored tombs give stupid bonuses to city irritates my autism because I feel like I have to settle next to them.

>>165368814
Most of the Paradox DLC is cosmetic stuff and I'd rather pay 10 bucks for an expansion that add a bunch of new mechanics than 7 bucks for a single heist, a gun that's either OP, a reskin or dogshit and a melee weapon that I'll never use.

Thanks fuck for the DLC unlocker

> militaristic Civ starts near me
> they attack me so I can't build shit and have to deal with them but I can't actually kill them
> militaristic Civ starts on another continent
> they take it over and have enough resources so I can't possibly outpace them in science or culture
How am I supposed to deal with these assholes without kamikaze level military investment? My last games were all ruined by Alexander, China, Caesar, or Napoleon. Even when I can defend myself just fine and not lose cities, weaker civs fall to these guys and make them more powerful and annoying.

>>165369305
>that add a bunch of new mechanics
In the new EU4 expansion, all features are in the free patch...except Splendor, which you need to not get shit on by the AI since the AI gets Splendor anyway.

>>165368990
>Does AoW3 even HAVE dlc?
Deluxe Edition DLC
Adds a Scenario and the OST

How will becoming completely synthetic work with the EVIL ROBUTTS REBELLION 'crises' at the end game.

>>165369641
maybe we will be able to join the rebellion.

>>165369641

You become the rebellion

>>165370169
Normies vs Robot Autists

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>>165368851
>As in planet cleansing that people have to re-populate later?
As the Gremak in particular, my standard strategy for mid-to-late game wars against enemy empires is to orbital bombard the planet until all inhabitants are dead or the survivors rebel and secede from the enemy empire. As far as I can remember, the first option is more common.
I might make a exception if there's valuable species there that I don't want to drive to extinction (like the one race in the game that can naturally survive without oxygen).

You can do this in the early game too, it's just less efficient. It's one of the reasons I consider getting a planetary defence grid to be such a high priority, because even if it's not a mach for an actual fleet it is a hindrance to smaller groups of enemy light ships.

>Have you had a game where peace was declared and both sides had to recolonize and rearm?
That's often the case, although the AI generally wants to conquer rather than exterminate. Which is understandable, seeing as bombing destroys all infrastructure, making a potentially valuable planet worth much less. Also if the AI wants to fight you, do not expect any peace to last.
All the grey system names in pic related denote empty systems that I have depopulated and not bothered repopulate.

>No bio-engineering your own people?
Not that I can remember.

>>165351229
>19th?
its still unfinisfed and totally not balanced
also somewhat briken
ai also cant handle basic mechanics
wonder if i can still refund if i dont bought it on steam

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>>165369641
Your empire is renamed "Cybrex" and start construction of a ring world. Now you know the rest of the story.

>>165370623
Yes please, buildable rings when.

>>165370432
looks comfy except that god awful font (fleet name)
what the hell

>>165361525
Oh boy where to start. As >>165362364 says the art director was in bed with the execs and shit on basically everything sensible to the point that the original designer from MoO1 was forced out of the project. The original guy actually wanted some really cool stuff in there like governmental corruption, religions forming and spreading along with a more traditional approach to the game with it more like MoO2 than the abomination that followed. The retarded art director on the other hand wanted absolutely insane needless complexity which at one point resulted in a build with over ONE HUNDRED GUI SCREENS to keep track of everything.

The high level of complexity was supposed to be offset by high amounts of automation which would let you focus on the big important things like expansion combat etc. Except the automation is coded like absolute shit which means you not only have to micro everything, you have to repeat said micro every turn as the automation tries its hardest to undo your work. The game also released during the massive piracy scare times with DRM so draconian you literally couldn't install the game if you had a CDRW drive.

The game had some cool concepts like the gasbag aliens who live in the upper atmospheres of gas giants which makes those planets not actual useless trash for everyone till late game and the Ithkul who are a bioweapon that literally eat other races and are justifiably hated and feared.
It also had some awful shit like the orion senate which you have a 50/50 chance of starting in unless you actually spend points in race creation to choose, it gives you instant coms with every other faction in it but this includes the resident super faction and this is a game with a "hate the human" AI so you get bombared with sabotage spies from turn 1 if you start in it. Including super race super spies

>>165368814
Eh the train simulator DLC policy is actually fine. It's an autistic game for top tier autists and you're only supposed to be buying the DLC that has the train/lines your particular brand of autism really likes. They're just catering to a lot of different flavors of autism.

>>165370432
>you have over a dozen systems
>the AI has one
how have you not won.

also, that's a small map

>>165372840
>how have you not won
I had, I was just waiting around to get all the end-game tech I hadn't seen before.

>also, that's a small map
Yeah, I generated a really small one.

>>165370718
They should make it take an obscene amount of minerals to the point where you actually have to build a handful of mineral silos.

Has anyone here played Star Ruler 2? I've been goofing around with it off an on for about a dozen hours, but have been unimpressed.
>rush colonize as quick as you can to upgrade a single planet
>fleet strength is completely dependent on how huge your capital ship and therefore 'support capacity' for the accompanying fleet is, nothing else matters at all
>you can build ring worlds, but no fucking clue how you get enough ore in one system to do that, and by the time you can make them why would you even bother

>>165373206
>Has anyone here played Star Ruler 2? I've been goofing around with it off an on for about a dozen hours, but have been unimpressed.
>>rush colonize as quick as you can to upgrade a single planet
>>fleet strength is completely dependent on how huge your capital ship and therefore 'support capacity' for the accompanying fleet is, nothing else matters at all
>>you can build ring worlds, but no fucking clue how you get enough ore in one system to do that, and by the time you can make them why would you even bother

Well thats because that game is total shit.

>>165373206
>>165374145
Isn't Star Ruler 2 that one game where you can make a ship bigger than the galaxy?

>>165374347
Not really, it was Star Ruler 1.
Star Ruler 2 is shitty facebook tier game with completely retarded mechanics such a FTL storage, flagships, diplomacy cards etc.

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What state is ES2 in?

>>165375830
Well it is Early Acess and will stay that way for a while..

>>165368814
Age of Wonders has railroads?

>>165368814

Train sim is literally "Here, buy your favorite train" because train enthusiautists typically want specific routes, locations and vehicles, which they'll pay for their favorites and run them as long as they wish to.

In Paradox's case; We're talking about sectional features; You don't pay and you're missing a large swathe of features.

>>165376552
AoW 3 has what would be the industrial revolution, so places with mines have railroads for the minecarts

I haven't played for a long time, so i might be wrong

>>165376552
Nah, atleast I dont know if there are yet
maybe the Tech class has it as a later empire improvement, but I doubt that
I was fighting in a quarry killing some of those annoying roaming "barbarians"

>>165376684
Alright I got it, no need to tell me twice
Its just the price for all those DLC in total is really overwhelming

>try playing distant worlds universe
>its more confusing than dwarf fortress was
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I WILL FIGURE THIS OUT

>>165369423
Guysssssss

>>165377492
>more confusing that DF
Bitch please it took me hours to even figure out what all the shitty ascii icons actually meant

>>165377671
that was the easiest part

>>165377492
Just set everything to default automation, go trough the tutorial, and then start gradually disabling automation.

>>165377659
Presuming you are on high difficulty - you are supposed to either take over your own continent, or at least dominate it. If you aren't on high difficulty, just git good at simcity.

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What determines where you can build seaside resorts? I sent builders to unused oceanside tiles without hills and never got the option.

Anybody here played Pandora and can recommend or not?

I heard it is basically fan copy of SMAC, but with absurdly agressive AI that gets too many buffs to their productions, but maybe something changed?

>>165380773
I never played it but a couple weeks ago someone asked basically this question and some other guy wrote a huge wall of text recommending it

>>165377952
> take over your own continent
Even if you're going for a science victory? And training that many extra soldiers ends up taking up a lot of production.

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Which mods am I missing? What's something worth installing and maybe some of the mods I took are not compatible?

>>165381117

Did he mentioned the AI?

>>165381239
In civ 5 you can get away with 4 cities cheese if you are right civ, in civ 6, you more or less have to expand, expand, expand.

>>165381693
I think so but I forget what he said about it desu

>>165380773
if you like smac play endless legend

>>165382163

I cant have fun with Endless Legend anymore.

I cant explain it, but when I first got the game, it was wonderful experience and for the first time I played difficulty levels beyond normal.

Then first paid expansion came and it all began to fall down. I got Guardians after second one came out and while it was nice, I felt that something was off. But with each next expansion, it felt worse and worse.

After I got that shapeshifting guys one, I had to force myself to play.

No idea what happened.

Is there any good turn based space game?

>>165384873
GalCiv2 is the golden standard as far as I'm concerned.

Can someone download this mod for me please?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=829724308

>>165381380
I have no idea what half of those do but they have names that interest me. Could you do a quick rundown on some of them?

>>165385705
Galciv 3 is fun now.

>>165385601
Elf a shit.
Human Paladins are superior.

>>165387296
No. It's a shadow of GalCiv2. It's not shit, and I do prefer hexes, but it pales by comparison. Tech trees alone make all the difference in the world.

And I'm not some grumpy oldfag- I bought GalCiv3 way before release, and tried it again when they released mercs xpac. It's still behind 2.

>>165386615
I could just tell you the ones that are really worth it:

Tiny .. etc make the ui much better for everything.

Additional map modes is like a full spy / intelligence dlc - it just adds many more map mdoes alongside the few existing ones like the diplomatic map etc.

Improved population - makes it so that if 50% of your pops have a different ethic it will be added to your government, it also adds birth control, makes the salves better and other nice things such as making some of the purged pops escape to neighbor empires instead of just being deleted from the game.

More genetic engineering - if you edit your whole primary species pops an event will start that allow to use the edited ones as primary species so if you add enduring trait you can actually use it for leaders now.

Planetary computer - allows you to build synthetics AI planet from the event.
Ringworld restore - allows you to restore ringoworld systems with a lot for effort also adds tier V - VI mineral / energy buildings, but makes them hard to research.

Researcher trait "Fix" - makes scientists to gain new traits as they progress just like ones on the ship.

Stellaris expansion - FTL makes warp and hyper-lane get some repeatable improvements.

Ticking warscore - if you want them to cede a planet, you invade it and every month you'll get something like +0.5 + 1 warscore per planet, works for cleanse, vassalize etc

>>165387569
I want to get all the dlc. But i dont want to pay for any of them

>>165385705
Thank you!

Why is 3 objectively inferior? And what if any mods should I get for 2?

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>>165385705
Tauron, Horus and I have been fighting eachother in a threeway war around this area.

My halflings vs Taurons gnolls/lizardmen vs Horus dark elves

My beastman city in myrror is producing minotaurs with adamantium weapons every 2 turns now, while my Great Wyrm with Iron Skin and Pathfinding is racing towards the new town that Tauron resummoned himself in.

Ariel is currently banished, Merlin is irrelevant on his polluted peninsula

>>165388247
>Why is 3 objectively inferior?
I probably could go point by point comparing how every system in each game compares to the other. How some systems in 3 are an improvement, if a minor one, i.e. economy screen, hexes, etc. How most are non the less inferior under cooked versions lacking polish and depth of 2. But to sum it all up - GalCiv2 was a labour of love by it's devs, while GC3 was a job. Even after GC3 was released GC2 got a major patch just because.

>And what if any mods should I get for 2?
I'm sure there are some good mods, but non come to mind.

>>165388931
oh and 3 major expansions worth of refining didn't go amiss too.

>>165388635
What game invented territory boundaries? Alpha Centauri (1999)?

I don't think Civilization 2 (1996) had them but Civilization 3 (2001) did.

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>>165389159
Civ2 doesn't have them in the modern sense anyway.

There's zone of control, and both you and the AI can demand that the other leave your territory.
No hard impassable borders though.

I think call to power may have had some visualization of borders, but not sure how they worked.

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Great Wyrms are fun

How long does vanilla purge takes in stellaris? How many years?

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Why can't I destroy this unbidden portal?

I destroyed all 300k of their fleets (and lost half of mine doing it)

I've beaten them once in another game

there are some entries in the situation log but there are no research projects attached to them

>>165391619
They changed it so now you have to destroy all the unbidden outposts first.

>>165391845

ok thanks i found a dimensional anchor

>>165375830
I understand that fan service is important to you people, but is it really necessary for alien bug robots to have breasts?

>>165392698
how would we know females from the males?

Made a stellaris game with the fanatic materialist and militarist ethos only. Conquered a neighbour.

Theres not a rats ass chance in hell I could make them drift to my ethos, even with reeducation campaigns and information quarantine. You are pretty much forced to pick either individualist ethos or just put them to the chain, forcing the player to pick either xenophobe/collectivist or individualist. Certain ethos combinations are plain impossible.

>>165381805
How much of a war pig must you be? I was Babylon and couldn't get away with for cities. Is it better to try and gang up on the big jerks like Alex or Caesar or to instead pummel the weaker guys?

>>165394471
It all depends on too many things to give you generic advice.

>>165394845
Let's say Persia, Polynesia, and England all want me dead to varying, descending degrees. Persia gets the strongest, then England, then Polynesia. England shares a decent border with me, Polynesia and Persia get pinched into narrow spots because good geography for defense. I ended up letting Persia rape Polynesia while I pillaged Polynesia. Was that a bad move?

>>165396353
You never want someone dominating your continent, You should have used this opportunity to gang up on Persia to cut them down to size, even if both wars went nowhere it's better than having your strongest neighbour grow stronger, even if you get a city or two out of the deal. There are exceptions to this, dictated by geography or diplomacy, but that's the gist of it.

>>165393592
You can easily do that with re-education campaign, some edicts that give -ethic divergence and building or space module for mind control. I think you have to check the pops and see if you got their ethic divergence at around -20 -30% if you do that, the pops will eventually get brainwashed.

It works, just not that early, you can even gene edit them for less ethics divergence.

>>165393592
militarist gets the virtual combat arena for +5% happy and -5% diverge.

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Rate my Faction guys

What's the reasonable amount of fallen empires for a noob? 2 - 4 or 6 ( now willing to go for more, they're a terror )

Going to play on a 2000 stars map with 80 empires.

>>165401805
That's a lot of stars and empires. Not worried about performance hit by mid game?

>>165401787
>Not making them cockroaches

>>165401787
pig disgusting.

>>165401949
Cockroaches are for the ottoman empire

>>165401949
There arent any cockroaches, and turks arent the majority of muslims.

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>>165402182
>There arent any cockroaches

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>>165402182

>>165402367
>>165402943
Those are dorbeetles

So I ask again, I bet some of your are veterans by now with Stellaris.

One guy suggested that 2k stars with 80 pops might cause issues but I think my computer can safely handle it, but I'm willing to go with the most balanced / fun option for a noob.

So maybe just 1000 stars with 40 empires?

What's the amount of fallen empires that I should allow tho?

>>165403373
>2k stars
How do you even do that and do you not intend to ever leave your desk again?

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Are you fucking serious Paradox

I just want a goddamn mod

>>165403646
http://stellaris.smods.ru/

This is where I go all my mods, many developers upload there as well directly.

>>165403807
Thanks a plenty m8

>>165403373
Some enjoy long slug campaigns. As far as I'm concerned those people are insane. If you are new, you will have to decide for yourself what you like and not. I'd advise starting at default presets, and then adjusting them after first game to fit your fancy.

Also 2k stars isn't laggy because it's a resource hog. It's laggy because optimisation is crap.

>>165401787

Pick some other weapon. Missiles kinda suck.

>>165392698
They aren't robots though.

>>165404053
Ok then what about
1000 stars, 42 empires 2 fallen ( or 4 )
or 500 stars max empires that 500 allow and 2 fallen or maybe just 1?

>>165393592
Chance to convert is ethics divergence per year, divided by 10.

So if a pop has a -10% ethics divergence, it has a 1% chance per year.

I think for a materialist militarist you need to do the whole liberate->vassalize->integrate scam.

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REEEEEEEEEEE fucking xenos 'helped' me kill the ancient mining boss, and they get the hexagon first and I'm left with all these worthless squares.

>>165404996

You only missed on Gamma lasers and the tier 1 armor

>>165403646
they also dot allow that steam tracking proggy to scan them either, onne of the only companies to do so, because they hate people to see how dead their games get so quickly

>want to do an Aurora blind run AAR for shits and giggles
>refuses to run under wine for incomprehensible reasons
Fuck me

>>165404996
>falling for the federation meme

>>165342693
What the hell is that monstrosity of a game with the aquatic towns?

>>165405238
I doubt anyone will know but does anyone know how to get it to run under wine? I've gone and done all the things it says in the reddit guide, but I'm still getting the ERR 429 and ERR 91 spam.

>>165415150
Why wouldn't you just set up double boot. Wine is such a waste of effort in this day and age.

>>165416420
Because I don't want to keep swapping between Windows and Linux by shutting down over and over, since my Windows drive would be nothing but games.
Also because if I install windows it'd probably be Win10 for muh Directx 12, but Win 10 keeps trying to grab every drive it can find as its own when it updates, which it does automatically.

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>got a defensive pact with a pretty bro-tier empire
>super high opinion, and they want to protect my smile
>Kinda cute too be honest.

>THEY PROCEED TO COLONIZE A FUCKING HOLY WORLD
>I'M OBLIGATED TO DEFEND THEM IN THE WAR WITH THE FE THAT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW EXISTED PASSED HIS EMPIRE
>40K DEATH STACKS ROLLING THROUGH MY SYSTEMS, GOING FULL SCORCHED EARTH TERROR BOMBING
>EMPIRE WIDE GALACTIC GENOCIDE

OH SWEET JESUS HAVE MERCY

http://stellaris.smods.ru/archives/1451
^ for stinky pirates

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=827831523
^ steam

Guys these map mods feels like a nice spying / intelligence expansion, I really recommend it.

>>165378276
Beautiful(?) appeal or better.

What should I craft right now I'm at year 2236 with 30 corvettes and room for 20 more ships and when I finish upgrading some space ports I might have more.

Should I go for destroyers now or go something like 40 corvettes then build cruisers or what's a good balance plan ?

Mid - late game I would probably have to go Battleships > destroyers > cruisers and that's about it right? But I'm confused for now on what's the best.

Does anyone know a good civ-like game for Android other than Polytopia?

>>165420038
MyCiv Alpha.

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>>165342925

>The Flesh Is Weak

>The limits and constraints imposed on us by our feeble organic bodies are simply unacceptable. to reach our full potential, we must turn to cybernetic implants

>>165422278

That and the imperial one are the ones to take. Although Im more concerned with the traditions themselves and how the hell both ethos and government will play (since those will seem to change).

>>165419885

Go destroyers armed with small weapons and defense that directly counters your opponent. Later if you research disruptors and lasers, attach tracking computers and good sensors so you can use them with large size weapons for long range alpha.

They are great ships to use all around mid game. IF you killed a void cloud go straight to destroyers and arm them with said weapon (sons of bitches cannot find them anywhere these days!)

>>165424306

I meant go straight to cruisers (if you have the cloud conduits).

>>165404539

I dont think it works because the government change ethos but not the pops (not sure though).

>>165404539

Fuck, that explains it. I had 20% so it was actually a 2% chance. No wonder it didnt worked within 10 years!

Its exactly as I said: either xenophobe or collectivist or individualist are fucking mandatory for any kind of expansion. Otherwise the player spend decades and decades of riots with planets producing with an huge penalty.

>>165425109
You have to have it around 30 - 40% I've done it on a play-trough recently in 10 - 30 years most of conquered pops already shared my government ethos.

>>165425109

>* -20%

>>165425197

30 years is just too damn much for me. Its pure stagnation. I think I will rape myself from now on by playing a fanatic xenophobe militarist despotic empire for good influence and shit large borders while all the inanity AI turns on me (gonna see how far I can go into diplomacy lol, if possible at all). If not Il just revert to more "balanced" builds.

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>extreme adaptability, rapid breeders
>pacifist for happiness and the ability to make agreements that don't suck my influence, which I need for colonization and outposts.
>religious for growth time, and ethics divergence limiting to insure that these benefits remain constant.
>open up as many migration treaties from my peace won friends in order to spread to other empires as well.
>because of how effective my primary species is at colonization, the AI favor them for all following colonization efforts.
>If I ever need to war, I can just do liberation wars and target the planets they seeded with my kind for maximum integration, without the worry of needing to suppress them later.
>Peaceful Bureaucracy/Irenic Protectorate for core sector cap increase

I am a galactic cancer. Holy fuck. Rapid, en masse colonization rocks.

>>165427279
Beautiful

>>165425437
As xenophobe just enslave and purge.

The whole "blah blah prime" thing is getting a bit tiresome. Any way to get the game to use the names in the list you pick during species gen for new colonies? I seem to recall that being a thing in 1.0.

I am fond of vodka

>>165431986
I am fond of beer

>>165361492
Thanks man, you rock.
Started my first game at normal, doing kinda good with Dark Elves, but i take ages to clear my surroundings without warlocks.
Any tips for the starting lair-clearing party?

>>165432775
As dark elves I just use stacks of spearmen.
Their range attack is better than swordsmen and halberdiers due to their extra two figures.

Depends on what you try to clear though, they can't take care of sky drakes because of the magic immunity and their speed, great wyrms will just slaughter them due to merging.

For great wyrms you may be able to use a stack of nightmares.

I think you can use a nightblade to scout non death-sorcery-life nodes to see the exact contents of the node.

I'd try to get another myrran race for something like sky drakes.
Minotaurs, Hammerhands/Golems, Doom Drakes.

Each source of adamantium can at best boost two cities.

Draconian Bowmen with adamantium weapons can possibly clear a bit in safety. Maybe even great wyrms.

What were your picks? Myrran+Life?


Also you don't have to clear everything around you, just keep garrisons so you can defend against raiders.

>>165417602
You are the Xenos Anon! Purge your self for the Emporer!

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>>165434683
>Emporer

Can anyone post the NSC compatibility patch for the Sins of the prophets in the mega deposityory tyvm.

>>165342925
I generally play as Euphorics but the mind over matter tree sounds cool.

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Tauron and Ariel are currently banished.
There's one high men city left, and I have two high men settlers.

Will settle them near adamantium or mithril/silver, but I probably won't get to use paladins, will probably be able to finish Horus off with Minotaurs and the Great Wyrm.

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>>165429024
You can manually rename planets and systems in Stellaris, what are you on about?
>>165431986
Vodka is for plebs and college girls, learn to drink.

>>165440059
>You can manually rename planets and systems in Stellaris, what are you on about?
Instead of manually having to do it I assume he wants the game to pick names from his list instead.

I remember playing as modified united earth my planets names were automatically something else, none of that prime stuff.

>>165440059
>hating vodka
cyka

I'm more of a whiskey drinker nowadays. Nothing beats some good bourbon.

>>165429024
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Stellaris+planet+name+mod

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bah, at a tax rate of 2 halflings get 1 rebel at pop 25.

Guess I can fix it if I get infernal/divine power from an encounter zone.

I wonder how much better would Stellaris late-game run if there werent any 3d shit but 2d sprites instead

>>165440956
God if only.

If only you could boot civ6 with no 3d as well.
I can't even start the game on my current computer because the graphics card is too old.

>>165441156
>If only you could boot civ6 with no 3d as well.
I mean... If your PC is so old in can't handle menu, than yeah, you are fucked. If it can there is an option to jump over to strategic mode only, which is basically what you are asking for.

>>165441274
It's not even the menu, the game refuses to boot because the graphics card is too old for the game.

Iv'e been playing Ark on this computer so it's a little weird that a game like civ6 stops me.

>>165440467
Literally nothing helpful

>>165441430
Sounds like DX and/or Civ itself being picky to avoid customer complaints. You might be able to find a work around, but I wouldn't bet on it. Unfortunate indeed

>>165429024
If you click enough times "Prime" stops showing up and you get names from the list.
At least in the current version anyway.

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1. Ashdar Colonials
2. Ashdar Imperials
3-4. Phidi
5-6. Gremak
7. Orthin
8. Yoral
9-0. Humans

>have unregulated migration
>colonize a new spanking 20block planet with only one hazard
>everyone fucking goes there
>get warning of starvation and and pop getting killed

Welp

>>165446867
That happens everytime.
Keep them happy and get something that reduces migration speed as your negative trait.

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>>165446513
Time to become the biggest, wealthiest Jew in the entire Galaxy.

Why wont the fucking sectors build shit? They have ample of energy and minerals in storage and still the planets dont even have any construction queued for them.

>>165447824
Because AI control them and AI is shit at controlling sector. Blame Paradox.

>>165448328
>make sectors important part of the game
>make them work like ass


Nani?

>>165447026
>literal gefilte fish

>>165447026
Keep this furshit filth in /trash
/

Hey is one of the Stellaris waifufags around?
If so can you give me the quick and dirty of importing custom portraits ?

>>165449151

>>>/loverslab/

>>165449151
>quick and dirty
LEWD

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These guys make the perfect race for production planets.
>high production output
>no food consumption
They don't seem to have that great adaptability, so they're most good for Hive Worlds, but they're still great industrial workers.

>>165448657
גוים

>>165448780
no

>>165446867
>>165446937
On some level it's good that new colonies get enough pop for the colony administration building upgrade, but it's annoying that there's no way to limit migration or that migrants aren't smart enough to know if there'll be enough food or jobs once they reach their destination.

Makes me modify the Confederacy of Man to have enduring +30 years instead of nomadic. Rationalizing that the colonists got gene tweaked for longevity.

>>165451205
Most annoying part is that buildings can only be built one after another.

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>>165451575
Tauron resummoned in Lizardmarch, muh wyrm is circled in yellow

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>>165447824
Don't put planets into sectors until you've filled them up. The AI can't make good building choices anyway.

>>165458637
I think MoM would have been improved by pre-existing non-magical neutral empires. That and territory boundaries. But those concepts hadn't been invented yet.

>>165453950
WHy are you quoting me?

>>165456465
Is there a mod that improves sector AI?

Every time I look at my sector planets I get angry enough to stop playing.

>>165459717
No Sector Mod.
Best AI ever.

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>>165458930
>and territory boundaries
I don't think that would fit MoM very well.
The land is generally untamed and more lotr high fantasy where Erebor and the Iron Hills can be aligned together, but they don't really control the land around them.
Territory boundaries would conflict with some interpretations.

>>165459134
Because I thought you'd like to know about Taurons latest shenanigans.
No but I replied to you by mistake, I make new posts by clicking "No. ####" and then removing the reply text.

>>165459987
>invent a new kind of power plant
>go to each of my 30 planets clicking on the upgrade button
>the alternative is to have a badly-made AI do it

This is what Swedes call a strategy game.

>>165464624
>you do it yourself or someone will do shit job with it
Isn't that universal rule? Seems like realistic design if you ask me.

>>165427279

Pacifists are never cancer. Hive minds with rapid breeder trait along with fanatical purifiers and matelheads are a real cancer and should be KoS at all costs.

>>165464624
Like that guy said >>165465437

Its either full manual control or shit AI.
I will take full manual over AI no matter how tedious it is.

>>165459987
>You can remove the penalty for having more than 5 planets directly controlled by going to steam/steamapps/common/stellaris/common/static_modifiers, then alter the file called "00_static_modifiers". Just find the line "inefficient_planet_management" (it is near the bottom), and remove both "influence_gain_mult = -0.1" and "tile_resource_energy_mult = -0.1".
I wonder if I can still get achievements if I do this.

>>165427279
Is that Fanatic Pacifist, Spiritualist, or the opposite?

>>165464624
There is a mod for autoupgrading buildings.

>>165465437
Except it's all trivial. The player isn't making interesting decisions if he does it himself, and the only reason you'd want to do it yourself is to prevent the AI from putting robots and slaves on the science labs.

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Playing with a low planet density and few hospitable planets means that there's a lot of empty, worthless space in this galaxy. So I keep growing faster than I can expand.

Though that's mostly because I forgot that outposts were a thing.

>>165467748
why do you care about achievements?

>>165468159
My life is empty and I need external validation.

>>165468089
>The player isn't making interesting decisions if he does it himself,
You have a limited set of resources you can build plenty of different things with.

>>165468301
Then get a sub gf.

>>165467748
That is another way of doing that.

>>165468301
I'll give you a friendly punch on the shoulder if you don't edit the files and instead manage your empire as is

>>165468608
>Then get a sub gf.

I'm not him, but if you know where I could find one...

>>165468306
Not really. You put the mining buildings on the red squares, the power plants on the yellow squares, the farms on the green squares, etc.

The only choices that aren't completely trivial are how to exploit adjacency effects, which resources to suppress for specialization, and what you want for the empty squares. However, this doesn't actually take any time to do.

The devs wanted to use up the player's time (since that's what leads to the dedication necessary to buy DLC), so they filled the game with busywork. It's so unfun that they had an AI do it, and made the AI so bad that you'll need to periodically spend influence to take back the planet and micromanage it yourself (a task that takes so many clicks in so many menus that is also uses up a lot of player time).

>>165469589
christ anon

>>165469763
Man, I'm lonely.

>>165469589
fetlife

>>165469909
Fetlife is a clusterfuck of fat people and desperation.

>>165470027
Not unlike the time sink strategy game section of 4chan.

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I am glad that I have a mod that lets me build sensor stations, because it lets me know which way I really shouldn't go exploring yet.
Some of the fallen empires introduced by the Fallen Empires Expanded mod are outright nasty and are near-instant gameovers if you meet them too early.

>>165469761
>Not really.
Yes really.
I said you have a limited set of resources, and you didn't argue that.
You may have hundreds of different places you can use your minerals, while you only have a limited amount of minerals to use, so you have to make the decision on where to use those minerals, which is more urgent.


>You put the mining buildings on the red squares, the power plants on the yellow squares, the farms on the green squares, etc.
Also even that is wrong.

>>165470826
>I am glad that I have a mod that lets me build sensor stations, because it lets me know which way I really shouldn't go exploring yet.
How do sensor stations work? Sound intredasting

>>165470719
We all do squats here between turns.

>>165471493
I play the game on slow speed and run on a treadmill.

>>165471348
The Sensor Stations come with the New Ship Classes & More mod. They count as Military Stations, but they are able to equip one special sensor array - a sensor array that gives them 200 sensor range.

In that screenshot there the sensor station was built in Huph, so you can see just how much is uncovered from that alone.

Creating a Species for Horizon Signal:

Completing the Horizon Signal event chain changes your dominant species, granting the following traits:

1) Tomb World Preference.
2) Intelligence.
3) Natural Physicists.
4) Repugnant.

To get the most out of your points at species creation, you want to avoid taking any traits that deal with habitability (Adaptive, Very Adaptive, or Nonadaptive).

You also want to avoid taking Intelligent or Natural Physicists, because you'll get them later.

You do want to take Repugnant, because it'll function as a free point, and its penalty isn't very crippling.

If you're playing Collectivist, I'd suggest also taking Decadent, and if you're playing Individualist you should take Deviant. If you're playing neither, Sedentary is a good choice.

In my current game I started with Industrious, Thrifty, Deviant, and Repulsive to maximize my resource collection and it's been working wonderfully.

My species is currently Industrious, Intelligent, Natural Physicists, Thrifty, Deviant, & Repugnant and they can settle damn near anywhere.

>>165469589
Fetlife, thematic night clubs, general life.
Many chicks dig this whole sub thing.
Search and you will find.

>>165471772
Completely missed the screenshot.

Cool.

Wish there were more levels of sensors.

Like long range sensors like those, but they're not fully accurate instead, like only shows 10% of the things in range.
Then with more techs they get accurate.

>tfw getting beat in galciv3 by the AI when i used to stomp the ai in galciv2
I JUST DONT GET IT.

>>165472862
GalCiv 3 is terrible and it requires constant min max to defeat AI. Dont be suprised.

>>165471876
Could you have genemodded your species before the horizon signal, or would your main species before you genemodded just have been altered then?
60% from base tier 2, +10% from tech, +10% from strategic, +10% from hospital
So 90% habitability on tier 1 worlds.
Only worth taking adaptive if you were going for 100% happiness.

Do you only use your species and no others then btw?
Thinking I'd skip industrious and deviant to get conformist and communal and instead use a prole species for minerals.

>>165472958
>the ai is harder
>this is bad
???

im only playing it on genius level. one up from smartest without cheating.

>>165408049
???

>>165408049
Bottom left is alpha centauri.

Bottom middle looks like... call to power maybe? Not sure.

>>165408049
>>165473704
Civ Call to Power ? Looks like it.

>>165473151
Its not about harder, its about needing to min max every turn so the AI wont get miles ahead of you.

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This is why I snipe Taurons Fortress as soon as he resummons himself with my Great Wyrm instead of fighting him head on with halfling hordes.

>>165408049
I'm pretty sure it's call to power 2.
The terrain and cities look exactly like 1, but the UI is different.

>>165473068
Sure, that'd work if you were going collectivist.

I'm playing a Direct Democracy, and my playthrough's going very well.

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>>165474021
>>165408049
Yep. Call to Power 2.

>>165473846
The AI is still ass at judging military strength, so while I am getting my shit kicked in its not nearly as bad is it could be.
>Yor declare war on me
>I take 3 of their planets that I know of
>they have 6 more, but I have literally no idea where they are
>have to explore more just to find some
>it turns out they were across the huge galaxy, the only reason they settled near me was because I never bothered getting extreme planet colonization and they just took those planets because they could
Their ships were more advanced than mine, granted, but it took them forever to get to me because the Yor apparently decided to forgo better hyperdrives in place of weapons. A winning strategy until my battleships that can move 12 hexes to their 3 snipe their troop transports.

Still kind of pissed that they wont peace out. I even offered one of their planets back.

I'm hemorrhaging fleets too quick and if their main battle group makes it all the way into my territory im fucked.

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So, I decided to whip up an 'antagonist' species to set loose on the Galaxy and oppose my 'protagonist' empire the next time I play.

What do you guys think?

>>165470826
So what the fuck is a "Junta" ?

>>165475148
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship

*obligatory joke about US education*

>>165475315
*insinuations about your wifes fidelity*

Why did my energy income jump from +80 to -36?
All I did was set up 2 new colonies inside a sector.
I didnt go over my limit and i have no factions rioting, I also dont have happiness going down somewhere.

>>165471876
and if the event doesn't show up ?

>>165475148
One of the US' main exports.

>>165475654
Build a science ship, assign a scientist, and have it travel back and forth from a black hole to the nearest world.

The event will trigger eventually.

>>165475541
>*threat of a shoe getting thrown*

>>165475964
Doesnt that event turn you pacifist/individualist tho?

>>165476671
Oh, yes! Sorry, it does.

If you're anything but Militarist, it turns you Individualist/Fanatic Militarist. If you're Militarist, it turns you Pacifist.

Choose your ethos with that in mind.

>>165476939
what a fucking retarded event

>>165477271
The benefits are worth it.

>>165475964
didn't know it worked that way
stupid but better than the others

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If I use the ai command in the Stellaris console, does it just leave the AI empires sitting there doing nothing while I do whatever I want? I'm not sure what it means by toggling the AI on and off. I wouldn't mind 'freezing' the empires for a bit so I can experiment with mine a bit.

The hell is wrong with you corvettes in stellaris? They do move to engage the enemy, but instead idle in the middle of the engagement zone doing nothing.

>>165474845
Nothing, guys?

>>165475148

Instead of having the most senior officer in charge you would have either all the chiefs of staff presiding or all generals/admirals (with one of them as the elected head between them).

>>165484378
Thought it was fine.

Maybe they can't enslave much if they're nonadaptive.
Will their xenophobia trigger by alien slaves?

>>165396884
Alright, tried a new game as Inca (I mean, they're considered at least okay, right?) and had 4 city states and China on my continent. I could tell China was going to attack (marching an army towards me meant it was me or the city state, and she did take over the city state by her so it might have been that), so I beat her to the punch so I could do better. Since I did not want to deal with the warmongering from China, I warmongered China out of existence. When I took over the former city state, I liberated it, but that did not do enough to cut the war mongerer penalty and literally every civ except 1 would declare war on me, almost all at once. Granted, because they are doing naval attacks and they mostly suck at those, they can't take shit, but between the wars and being embargoed I can't spread culture or trade for shit. Is completely eliminating other Civs bad if you are not going for a domination victory?

Also, Sweden got nukes in that game and threatened me with them, saying that their words were now backed by nukes. They also had a Hostile status with me. Would they actually be likely to nuke me, or not really? Would being on a different continent make me probably safe from an atomic attack (I know carriers exist, but I'm not sure the AI would go to the trouble to try it, especially since they seem to suck at using navies in general).

>>165487289
>I mean, they're considered at least okay, right?
They're top tier.

>>165487673
Is hill movement really that good? I know it beats some of the shittier UA in the game, but that only gets you so much. Granted, they are kind of geography dependent and I didn't have that many hills on my continent (shit ton of forest, though).

>>165487869
Hill movement is great, no maintenance for roads in hills is great, half maintenance for roads over all is great.

The most important thing in the game is science, you get science from pops, you get pops from food, and the incans have more food than others through terrace farms.

>>165488832
Fair enough.
Back to my earlier question though, if there is a warlike civ next to me and I don't kill it, it keeps trying to kill me. If I do kill it, I am Satan to the rest of the world and get fucked diplomatically and by other Civ's armies (or at least they try to fuck me over, anyway). Do I just have to take everything but their capital and surround them so they can't keep expanding and causing more shit?

>>165489985
The only way around it is to wipe out the warmonger before anyone else meets him.
But yes, gutting him, tasking his capital, and leaving him as a remnant is also an option. Just let him keep a shit tier city off somewhere remote if possible.

>>165479091
Duno, just do a test game and see

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live you bastard

>>165496442
Oh ho ho ho.
Someone is getting probed tonight.

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>>165496646
dat Aggresive observation
get ready to be uplifted

>>165497171
Roll for anal circumference.

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>>165497502

>>165501452
>you can fist a baby
I'm going to slam my head against the wall until I forget I saw this.

>>165501782
Yeah but with that -90 modifier its going to rip for sure.

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>>165501782
Welcome to FATAL.

>>165476939
I'm playing a Fanatic Spiritualist/Collectivist/Divine Mandate.

Is the -50 Ethics Divergence enough to get my pops to the ethos I want, or should I adjust them to have Communal?

>>165503268
What the fuck.

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>>165503512
Maybe listening to the official theme song will make it clearer.
https://youtu.be/8TLlbVW-VA0

So I've been playing a few Civ VI games with my bro, and I want to cheese the next game. I learned that playing as russia and spamming settlements is a great strategy, but especially knowing which civics and techs to rush, and the early game build order is difficult.

I usually go
>scout
>slinger
>settler
>stonehenge

Then I break structure and do whatever feels right.

Anybody know any cheap multiplayer tricks?