Fighting Games General /fgg/

>there are people here who are so jaded that they think overwatch is a bad game
lmao

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Blazblue has nice tummies

>>165604802
wrong thread for this bait, mate

Who is the most underrated Goober girl?

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j.mp

anyone want to play something on fightcade?

dont mind what

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ignore /v/ crossposters with lazy bait
ignore /r/kappa crossposters stirring shit with twitter posts

play fighting games

>>165604802
>tfw spent hundreds of hour in this shit game trying to justify my purchase

>Carl wins 6-1

Is there anything more boring and broken? I hope BB isn't at evo. I don't want to watch an all Carl top 8

Rev2 will have Zappa, Robo-Ky, and Anji by the time it releases on console.

anyone want to play some TTT2 on ps3 with a fucking Tekken noob?

I'm trying to learn more about Tekken but I feel like arcade mode is too easy.

>>165604947
can't, sfv requires you to connect to a server to play 1v1 online, which is P2P

Anyone else feel weird when they play console ports on PC?

PC fucking spoiled me because I look at these console games with almost no content and all the nickel and diming they do to maximize their profits while also charging $60. Someone really should do a PC exclusive fighting game.

>>165605076
eu?

>>165604975
ST has actual 9-1 matchups

>>165605084
Play a different fighting game then

>>165605090
Thems fighting herds

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>>165604741
It is, but I'm the guy who created it originally.
>>165604046
I'm not fat.

>>165604802
I just feel so-so about it. Its really well polished yet very unsatisfying.

>>165604975
BBCF is kinda boring to watch at high level, If carl is not your taste then you will see plenty of izanamis, izayois, jins, nines, or rachels.

>>165605150
US, Central

i have a confession to make

i am BLACKHAWKxDOWN

We need to shut Honzo and Zidane the fuck down for shitting on God's Gift

>>165605262
ah shit, I'm sorry then

Can Balrog even fight characters with fireballs

Ryu, Ken and Guile feel impossible

His v-skill has like 1 frame of projectile invin its garbage

>>165605090
KI is pretty much a pseudo-PC game at this point.

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>>165604910

>>165605260
What's good to watch at high level play? GG?

>>165604975
I vastly prefer that over CPE Valk desu, fucking Valk had been around for so goddamn long. In comparison there are like 5-7 top-tier characters in CF and plenty of high-tiers anyway so I don't mind.

>>165605319
too obvious, you need to work your bait game more anon

What fighting game character has the best ass?

>>165605210
how sad do you have to be to go and take screenshots of your pasta and take credit for them

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>>165604825

>>165605474
I'm seriously asking

Im just trying out Balrog

What video options does /fgg/ use in fightcade. I think scanlines are a must.

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continuing from last thread

post things you actually like about the current state of the FGC, before this place turns into a vortex of cynicism and negativity and swallows us all

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>>165605509

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>when you about to lose but they -15

>>165605514
Well he did ask, so I felt obliged to give an honest response.

I have created many pastas and will admit to any of those if people ask me.

>>165605420
Nothing currently since you will see alot of the same characters in top 8s. Older versions of GG and BB arre fun to watch since they were so crazy. Just watch EVO and SBO top 8 to get yourself really hype.

>>165605606
default, last time i tried messing with the settings nothing would load

>>165605641
There's nothing good about it right now

>>165605641
BB and GG are surprisingly popular on PC.

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Who /violent/ here?

>>165605410
>>165604910
What the fuck is this

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>>165605673
That's not even the best arse in that game, m8y

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>HONGODICKZO @honzogonzo 2h2 hours ago
>I feel like the guilty gear scene is insecure and feels like they have to lash out at the popular kids game to get attention

>HONGODICKZO @honzogonzo 2h2 hours ago
>kof14 sucks, play sfv

>HONGODICKZO @honzogonzo 2h2 hours ago
>tired of having your socal weekly devolve into two people playing casuals? play sfv

>HONGODICKZO @honzogonzo 2h2 hours ago
>oh look, my move went backwards when I tried to punish a roll, you know what game doesnt do that? sfv

>HONGODICKZO @honzogonzo 2h2 hours ago
>oh sweet, another kyo, iori, beni team. You know what game actually has character diversity? sfv

>HONGODICKZO @honzogonzo 2h2 hours ago
>kof world tour: romance streaming in a peruvian basement
>cpt: ono in a sold out stadium with champagne and bitches #playsfv

>https://twitter.com/honzogonzo/status/817983150005436418

Ok we got baiken

But where's jubei?

>>165605860
j.mp

>>165605879
oh shit i'm sorry

>>165605879
jesus christ how savage

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>>165605875
it is desu

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>Capcom are incompetent
>Arc Sys are jews
>Western fighting games suck

waht do /fgg/?

>>165605531
Yeah his v skill is fucking good, especially against ryu and ken who you can punish on reaction. Fireball characters are like his best match ups.

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>>165605641
There was a Smash tournament at the game store I frequent and I convinced some of the guys there to play Virtua Fighter with me because it has ringouts.

>>165605319
He shits on all of those characters, no idea what the fuck you're doing with v-skill but it's not hard to get through fireballs with it. There's always tap aswell.

>>165606179
play melee

>>165606179
masturbate to fighting game girls

Who should I play if my favorite thing ever is to press cr.mk?

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>>165606179

play the king of iron fist tournament seven

>>165606179
I quit fighting games and I only enjoy them through art

>>165605641
idk, not really feeling it lately

I want to crawl into a Tekken shaped hole but Namco wont let me

i want to see maximum weeb rage when USF2 or ARMS gets into EVO over BB or GG

what triggered this goober holocaust?

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I hate fighting games

Why cant I stop playing them

I just get angry and want to murder my opponent irl because of the dumb shit hes doing

I just want to be happy playing a single player game

>>165606157
I see nothing wrong with the but on the right. Do you like fat girls or something?
>>165606179
Play the game you find most fun, regardless of cost. A game isn't good just because you like its business practices.
Imagine that someone released tomorrow a fighting game that's a decade ahead of anything else on the market, and decided to charge for it A MILLION DOLLARS -- what would that fact tell us about the quality of the game? Of course no one would buy it, but it would still be awesome, it would still be a decade ahead of anything else, and all fans of the genre would still be frothing at the thought of having a go at it at the first available opportunity, and if the following day the publisher slashed the price to $9.99 none of these facts would be affected, except perhaps the number of copies sold per day. This is of course another extreme example, but one that illustrates my point all the more clearly, that point being that all games start out at some arbitrary price, a price set by the publishers -- not according to the quality of each game or to how much money and effort was required to make it, but according to how much they think they can get away with given current market conditions -- and a price which then follows a generally downward trend before eventually hitting rock bottom.

It is at that point that the issue of "value for money" disappears to be replaced by that of "value for time", even for the feebleminded (for the intelligent person it had always been thus), for when all games cost nothing the only question left to ask is whether any of them are worth anything. This is the timeless, the eternal question -- it is the only question worth answering, and it is that which every review that wants to remain relevant after it has fallen off the frontpage must ask -- and answer. And why shouldn't all reviews be written with this goal in mind? Well I say, if only gamers and game reviewers weren't so foolish, they doubtless would be.

>>165606303
bound/screw is the worst thing to happen to tekken since walls

>>165606303
No thanks tekken is casual button mashing garbage

>>165605843
what could e.ryu and violent ken possibly add to sf2 though?
i wonder if they'll even have new specials

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What if Arcsys announced that Rev2 would get an arcade release and console/PC release "eventually" as a full priced game?
Would /fgg/ be ok with it then?

New too fighting games can anybody explain why mkx is a bad game?

>>165606556
Yes, I'm sure people would be overjoyed.

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>>165606556
I won't be okay until Persona 5 Arena comes out, and only if Persona 3 characters are in it like my favorite girl, AIgis. She's the best!

>>165606645
its not

only bad thing about it is the constant updates

>>165606402
Rev is getting a paid DLC update like AE or Ultra for SF4.
This is apparently "jewish"

>>165606521
How is Tekken casual at all? You need to be able to grasp the concept of a Z axis just to hope to play it.

Nice channel to see cool old fg's

https://www.youtube.com/user/ImbuedGold/videos

>>165606413
just play souls all day

>>165606556
What it arcsys made a good game? I think that would be good

>>165606645
You ask this question every day.

how is 3s so good

i like it almost as much as melee now

ultra sf2 looks atrocious
eryu and vken are half assed BR romhack-tier characters
graphics are eye rape
the switch doesnt even have an ethernet port so every match will be played against wifi shitters with 200 ping

yet there are porbably 100 or so dumbasses who will buy a switch for this game

just lmao

>>165606823
What's a "good game" for you anon?

>>165606645
Block button in 2d is silly and eliminates crossups.
Overpatching means you have to relearn frame data over and over.

>>165606556
Fuck no
At least this time, it's not a full priced new version

>>165606419
If a game keeps on nickel and deeming you there's a point you just have to say no.

>>165606917
block button is needed in a game like mortal kombat, we saw what an MK character was like in a game with back to block (injustice)

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>>165606908
Good for them, I hope they're happy with it

>>165606908
Nintendo makes ethernet adapters. I bought one for Monster Hunter.
>>165607026
Never played Injustice, what was the issue with it having back to block?

>>165606432
Tagging was awful, bound was bad, screw is fine

>>165606957
So ASW is listening to complaints and it's not enough? They should release their games for free?

>>165606756
psychorarity and yogaflame24 (for his SF4 uploads) my favorite FG channels

>>165607103
scorpion was s++ tier when he was released with all of his teleports

>>165607026
>block button is needed in a game like mortal kombat
No, look at games like marvel and vampire, way faster than MK and they dont use a block button, mk babies are just shit, sonicfox is a clearcut example of that the "god" of mk but gets his shit pushed in the the most casual dumbed down SF game to date so badly he quit.

>>165606432
>pre T6
>launcher -> 1 to 3 fillers -> ender
>post T6
>launcher -> 1 to 3 fillers -> bound -> ender
Woooooooooooooow, truly ruined the game completely.

>>165606908
apparently several of the hdr sprites are plagiarized
but yeah its not a game capcom should have brought back

>>165607104
Why is bound worse than screw? Isn't it exactly the same thing, but instead of bouncing on the ground they fly weird?

>>165606916
A fighting game that has footsies

>>165607134
Yes. Every game should be free, tournament travel should be free, and I should get a free blowjob AND complimentary anal sex from a Baiken cosplayer just for showing up at a GG tournament, where last place gets 2000 dollars minimum.

If you did these things, I would think about playing Guilty Gear.

>>165607298
Nice non answer, but whatever makes you happy.

>>165607276
plagiarized from what?

>>165605879
lmaoo capcukitis

>>165605879
When is Honzo going to get over the "ill just say retarded things and pretend like im joking" phase he's been in for the last I don't know, 10 years?

>>165607613
when people stop fucking falling for it

>>165606413
The only time I get mad in FGs is when I continue doing dumb shit that I know I shouldn't be doing

But that's only temporary cause with time I'll correct those mistakes

In a game like LoL, however, there is very little you can do when bot starts turbo feeding and your jungler is afk farming

There is little you can do when you ping your teammate 5 times straight to retreat but he doesn't and is then promptly killed

There is little you can do when your team decides they want to farm while the enemy is grouped up and pushing down mid

I'll take the frustrations of fighting games any day over MOBA and MOBA-inspired garbage

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>>165607448
thawk and akuma have traced character select faces from sf2t gba as normal sprites

>>165607613
literally nothing he said is wrong

>>165607753
This is why you never hire Canadians.

>>165607684
>people not falling for sarcasm/irony
>in a post obama world
We got trump memeing people and people get triggered.

>>165606432
>the one thing that discourages kbd for 99% of the match
>worst thing to happen

i like the way you think.

>>165607104
screw is literally bound but everyone can do retarded wall carry combos.

>>165607407
It's a non-answer if you only play kusoge without footsies.

https://youtu.be/FQQCan5oo90

Educate yourself

>>165607276
>>165607448
>>165607753
Uh aren't those both by the same artist?
I thought they were both UDON work.

>>165607857
don't reply to me

>>165606917
MK has crossups bro.

>>165606556
Capcom have the right idea with SFV they're just too stupid to pull it off.
Release a Game then build shit on top off it.
Charge for new characters, stages and whatever else.
Balance tweaks, graphical updates and convenience shit should be free.
Don't neglect story mode or the casuals will go ape shit and that's embarrassing for you.

>>165607986
triggered
sniffs

>>165605879
Why are capcucks so insecure?

Would you play an MVC style Blizzard fighter that drew from all of their franchises?

>>165607912
If you go by the Juicebox definition then yes, ASW games have footsies because counterpoking and whiff punishing is a large part of them.
It's not the end all be all like in games such as Samurai Shodown, but it's still there.

>>165607730
Why do you solo queue?
Like nigga why do people torture themselves through that instead of getting some friends to help make wining easier?

>>165608169
Blizzard doesn't know how to balance a game or make anything of a certain genre that isn't significantly worse than whatever is already on the market so no.

>>165608169
yes, it's guaranteed to have mad dosh for little to no effort. Pat of why I like Overwatch, but I hate working with teams.

>>165607263
nice opinion you have there

>>165608169
i dont want them to draw from all their franchises because the only blizzard franchise with neat characters is overwatch

>>165604694
Nice OP.

>>165608169
People here call ASW or Capcom jews but no other game company even came close to what Blizzard tried to do with the real money auction house of D3.

>>165608217
Because then you realize that your friends get way too mad way too fast
ARTS are the one of the main ways to ruin friendships

Is there any spammy shit I can use to at least get to bronze? I'm getting fucked so hard in Rookie

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>>165608037
its just not feasible long term.
awhile from now someone is going to buy sfv and have 4 seasons of shit to buy with no way to possibly earn even half of it in-game.

>>165608374
So is Mario Party but only retard would let that shit get to them.

>>165608146
No idea. Their game is the most popular, so it's not like people saying they don't like them will hurt this anyway.

fightcade or sleep?

>>165608217
1 because I wasn't able to find a good and reliable dup partner and 2 because of what >>165608374 said

>>165608614
Eternal sleep

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Is Justin gay furry?

i hope baiken's iad tatami is easier to do in xrd.

>>165608323
I still like Jim Raynor

>>165608676
i tried that but i had to keep getting up to use the toilet

>>165608767
catheter os

>>165608702
Haha no silly, hes a child molester

>>165608410
What character? Just faceroll with Ken.

>>165608037
It's not just embarassing, it's detrimental to sales, which is how we get pot money. Little Jimmy mashing through arcade is why SFIV was so valuable in esports.

>been going to locals for 2 years and I don't even know half the people's names

>>165609174
So? U don't have to make friends with everyone

>>165609174
Your souls are laid bare with your fists

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>>165609174
>when everyone at locals uses their "fighting game" names

honestly if every character in SFV was just replaced with Juri the game would be fine

>>165608037
>Don't neglect story mode or the casuals will go ape shit and that's embarrassing for you.

The casuals rate it as shit though.

Is it worth upgrading to Win10 to try Killer Instinct?

Hisako is cute and the game seems neat

>more people watching 2 old 2 furious than normal nlbc sfv garbage

hmmmmmm

>>165608702
he was wanting to go to a furry con with sonicfox

>>165609174
Is this bad? I can barely remember my own family's names'.

I get by with "hey you" just fine, as I remember who money match guy is and who guy that will play KoF with me sometimes are by their faces.

>>165609289
I don't want everyone in the world to know my first and last name, blood type, and address.

>>165609174
>everyone still calls me by the embarrassing and impossible to pronounce handle i first used

>>165608435
once it gets to that point they will have deals for new players like buy SFV + all the character DLC for a slightly reduced price

the stand alone game wont be 60 dollars (it's not 60 even now) by that point

>Sign
>Revelator
>Rev 2
What did they mean by this?

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>>165609289
>on night out with them and introduce yourself to the cop by your FG name.

>>165609174
>facebook
>not knowing their names

so glad sfv is blow the fuck out by pros

now even casuals on neofag hate the game lmaoo

>>165609525
Next will be R 3.

>>165609307
And they rate it as shit BECAUSE of that. You don't think they care about the removal of FADCs, do you?

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>he actually goes to neofag

>>165609491
Then why do a initial $60 dollar (at launch) buy in then?

Might as well do it Smite style.

why do you guys keep posting about gay furries

who is a gay furry here

>>165609307
Because it was shit.

>>165609321
>lying on the internet

>>165609575
Your shitposting is starting to get repetitive Dank, find some fresh memes.

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What if Arms was Marns

>>165609681
Yea we should all be edgy teens like you who go to /v/ instead

>>165609525
Revelator's story was a sequel of Sign, Rev 2 is just going to add some extra stuff but the real 3rd game of Xrd is probably going to come out later.

Also Rev 2 adds no new game system changes.

>>165609748
All fg's story modes are shit. Only when comapred within the genre are they okay,

>>165609709
(you)

>>165609686
to reap the money from the dedicated fanbase

>>165609818
what

>>165609758
>implying

>>165609805
this happened recently

cry all you want capcuk but sfv is dying fast

ST is going to overtake it this year. game is more honest anyway

>>165609686
To get money from the True Fans™

>>165609204
oh boy, another faggot joins the game, instead of bringing back the old roster first.

>>165609709
Every trip/name fag

>>165609868
Xrd -Sign- and Xrd Revelator are literally two of the best story modes in video game history

>buy SFV yesterday
>have to wait several minutes between ranked matches
Are no rookies playing? That would be a shame because I'm going to be stuck here forever if I remain winless.

hitstop destroyed SFV

>>165610017
player count has been dropping for months

you bought it at the wrong time

>>165609970
shut up capcuck

>>165609686
Dunno what smite does.
Maybe release at $30 but don't let the price drop, I guess that means no physical though.

>>165610072
oh fuck off already seriously

>>165610017
That's the normal wait time for everybody.
Why someone prefers this over lobbies is beyond me.

>>165610136
Smite makes you pay 30 bucks I think to get every god in the game currently and in the future.

>>165610017
MM is just bad, it has nothing to do with the playercount. I get matches faster in MKX, KI and even Xrd

>>165610216
because its still pre release

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>it's a dank thread

Got my popcorn ready. Love this guy.

i hate sfv

SNIFFOKEN

>>165610301
t. dank

>>165610127
I have never played sf, you queer.

Open ports. I get matches almost instantly.

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http://steamcharts.com/app/520440
>320 on a saturday night
what will it take to make this game live

>>165610216
Everyone thought they'd limit it at some point but they just made it to every single one in the future. Also any god bought with the ingame currency you get a refund back. It is 30 but they did deals of 25/~15 in the past.

There's many models that you can do that doesn't fuck consumers down the line and suit FG's.

>>165610072
>>165610140
>trip pretending like one trip is worse than another trip

I wonder how skullgirls did financially?

>>165610447
>playing video games on a Saturday night
ummmm lol???????? sorry we aren't pathetic nerd virgins like you capcucks who stay home saturday nights

>>165610447
Rev 2 will save Guilty Gear and save the FGC

>>165610568
and yet here you are

>>165610559
better than sfv

>>165610447
That's plenty for finding a match. What's the issue here?

trip test

>>165610140
stay mad that your game is dying :)

>>165610568
You still have time to hang around on a childrens forum on a saturday night

>>165610620
>what is phone posting

>>165610274
The game released long ago.

>>165610710
honestly i feel like being on your phone on 4chan when out with people is more pathetic than shitposting at home in your underwear

sfv people jump in all day and they dont pay for it

even sf4 didnt have this much jumping

>>165610447
Just wait till Baiken is released. Most of the playerbase are Baiken mains. Baiken will literally save Xrd.

>all this fighting yet no one's fighting in games

>>165610587
Will the "no baiken no buy" people finally buy Xrd?

That was a major point of contention in Sign. Frankly, if Arcsys can't get more players, they should just make the game easier. No sane person wants to waste hours just to get good at a game with 300 people at peak hours. You go to where the competition is, like DotA 2.

>>165610832
They pay with their time though.

>>165610842
Baiken will literally save fighting games as a whole

>>165610852
this place is just /r/kappa most of the time, nobody wants to play games they want to repost what people say on twitter and farm upvotes

>>165610929
>Frankly, if Arcsys can't get more players, they should just make the game easier.
Fuck off capcuck, the game is fine as it is. Look what they did to SF with SFV, it's fucking shit.

>>165610852
Life is a game

>>165610975
and braincells

imagine if everyone stop pretending they liked sfv and actually played games they really enjoyed this scene would be better

Is there any chance that USF2 wont be better than SFV?

>>165611193
has it occurred to you that people like SFV?

>>165610929
making the game for the lowest common denominator (ala SFV) is very bad.

Dota 2 requires thousands of hours as well to git gud, don't know why you used that example

>>165611103
Then GG players need to stop posting stuff like http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/forums/topic/6540-why-does-the-fgc-like-stupid-shit-and-what-can-we-do-about-it-my-take-on-scene-growth/&page=8

It's worth learning the intricacies of Melee even today solely due to the fact that Melee has a large population. The same cannot be said about anime fighters.

>>165610447
>tfw 22 people in Melty
>tfw they're probably all incredible at it
At least I have one irl friend who's into Melty and UNIEL, but I'd like to have a larger pool of newbies to play it with.

>>165611194
It's only on the Switch

>>165611286
Because DotA 2 has a massive population, which means it's worth learning the ins and outs of the game. Let's say I spend hours mastering Guilty Gear. Then what? I'm the king of the group of 5 people who play regularly online. What if instead, I took those hours and added a few more days mastering DotA 2? Then I have populations in the millions to compete against. It's just simply more fun because there are more people to play against. That's what it means to play PVP.

>>165610852
name 1 deeper game than /fgg/

>>165611286
>Dota 2 requires thousands of hours as well to git gud, don't know why you used that example


What? It literally requires you to just get a hold of mechanics and not play like a retard which is pretty hard for the playerbase since many people play for years but still have low as fuck MMR's on top of still playing like their first time.

>>165611307
What does that have to do with casualizing the game? Part of the reason why SFV is underwhelming is because it caters to eventscrubs and Max viewers who don't even play the game.

>>165610929
Seems to me like they've been trying to do that with the new characters and this way veterans can still enjoy the game without it being dumbed down.

A lot of the new characters are easy to pick up. With Leo you can mostly just mash buttons and be effective and Jack-O requires no execution for basic stuff and is barely a fighting game character.

>>165611392
Just join the melty discord lol

>>165608931
I was using Ryu, they're pretty much the same right?

>>165611307
>thread started in 2013
>last post in 2013
do you just keep shit like this bookmarked to spam elsewhere

>>165611498
Because you either have the population to support complex mechanics, or you don't. Guilty Gear doesn't have a large attach rate, whereas Melee does.

This is a huge factor that people take into consideration when they decide whether or not they should invest a large amount of time to play a specific video game.

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Arms for EVO

>>165611482
>It literally requires you to just get a hold of mechanics and not play like a retard
that doesn't get you to 6k mmr, aka git gud cutoff

>>165611652
Xrd does not have a population problem, step out of your fgg bubble. Even if it did have a population problem, who cares? I'd rather have my game as it is with less players than a casualized husk of a game made for esports kids.

Why is floe such a greedy fat fuck?

>>165611268
if the pros hate it
the casuals hate it
and even the hardcore agree with the pros on why it sucks and the player base is dropping

what makes you think otherwise?

I remember when everyone shitted on SF4. Good times.

>>165611821
>Xrd does not have a population problem
Funny how you had to slip that "even if it does" remark at the end. Do you have proof that it doesn't? Melee managed to grow into a massive community despite being one of the hardest games to learn. Why aren't Guilty Gear players able to do the same?

>>165611857
jewish

>>165611652
Making the game casualized will not bring in people. CSGO wasn't casualized and it became popular.

2 diapers can pick up GG and still have fun with each other, just like 10 silvers can have fun in csgo

>>165611821
>Xrd does not have a population problem
#shitgooberssay
recently went to a local that had 60 people for SFV and 4 for gg lmao

>>165611857
He's not he just understands how to run a Twitch stream well. He's not strongarming people into donating or whatever

You could certainly make the argument that he's lazy and he's definitely a fat fuck but I wouldn't say he's greedy.

>>165611965
This.

>>165612021
he means because floe gets away with restreaming other peoples content and doing nothing

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damn

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>dank and some smashautist shitting up the thread with their autistic hatred for fighting games
where are the nice posters like broski, brick and the rashidposters

>>165611950
DELETE DELETE DELETE FUCKING HELL DELETE THIS

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Is he right?

>>165611965
CSGO was dead in the water until Valve released hats for it. Not a good example.

>>165612086
He gets permission to

>>165611947
>Why aren't Guilty Gear players able to do the same?
Because it's not called Street Fighter and doesn't have decades of arcade/Nintendo nostalgia to make people interested.

You act like Melee was able to draw interest by being a good game. If Melee was the exact same game with the exact same characters and the exact same balance and mechanics but it wasn't a Nintendo game and didn't have Nintendo characters in it, no one would give a shit.

>>165612127
The irony is that everything on there is good except GG

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>banderas is literally in Arms

Guess he realized he didn't want to be in a dead game anymore

>>165612117
Put your trip back on

>>165612264
Guilty Gear came out in 1998. That's plenty of time for growth. It's pretty clear something went horribly wrong between then and now.

>>165612141
Yet the game remained the same not-casualized game. With Valve showing support for the game, it started to gain popularity and the skill ceiling didn't stop that from happening. (It had ~40k players before hats, hardly dead for CS at that time)

>>165612127
i'm tired of seeing "play gg or kof" like those are anywhere near the same league

I need Juri so much but I don't even play sfv...

>>165612127
no, but it's easier to say a game sucks when you don't know shit about it than it is to articulate why you don't like a game.

Why isn't Vega (Balrog) banned?

>>165612335
>That's plenty of time for growth.
Sure, if you're missing the entire point of what I said that's all it takes is time.

>>165612417
Street Fighter and Nintendo had to do something to build their brand name. Why couldn't Guilty Gear do the same? Both did something that Guilty Gear didn't in order to grow the brand. I'm just curious what Guilty Gear didn't do.

>>165612335
holy lol you retard

>>165612518
Let me ask you the flip question, what did Street Fighter do to build its name? What was the thing that SF did differently from everyone else that made them stand out somehow?

>>165612518
Appeal to casuals
Not have an anime art style

>>165612417

Hey hitbox shill

is your website the best place to get one if you're in the eu

>>165611912
no one shat on 4 as hard as people are shitting on V

>>165612518
>Both did something that Guilty Gear didn't in order to grow the brand.
They got lucky

>>165612524
Care to elaborate? It takes time to grow your name. DotA managed to do it from 2001 to 2017. Street Fighter managed to do it from 1987 to 2017. Same goes for Nintendo characters.

Why can't Guilty Gear do it?

>>165612632
Combos

>>165612632
SF has mass appeal

>>165612518
>I'm just curious what Guilty Gear didn't do.

Invent fighting games and spawn and arcade legend?

Be Nintendo?

>>165612725
-m

>>165612653
No idea, there might be someone in the EU who makes their own or something. I don't know what the options are over there.

>>165612673
lmao

>>165612725
But how.

>>165612632
Be the first game released

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what are the chances that Thicc Fighter V eventually gets ported to switch?

>>165611307
>tataki
lmao no one likes this guy

>>165612787
because sf games are good

>>165612345
CSGO is basically on the same tier as TF2 attentionwise (slightly higher). Also Valve doesn't even develop it anymore they got some other company to do it. that's how much Valve gives no shit about it.

>>165612725
A game doesn't enjoy mass appeal "just because". They did something to earn that mass appeal.

>>165612518
Nintendo got their name by rebuilding the video game industry after Atari and pals destroyed it.
Street Fighter got it's brand name because it reinvented the genre from boring martial arts games into cartoony flashy visual experience.

>>165612860
False my man, CSGO started out as a game for consoles with a pc port

Then about a year after Valve took control and released hats for it, while maintaining the game.

Do we like James Chen and David Phillip Graham?

>>165612787
relatively simple gameplay but still competitive
character designs influenced by stereotypes that are instantly recognizable all over the world
iconic sound

idk they pretty much killed it with SF2 and just built from there

>>165612990
no, both are annoying SJWs

>>165612791
Sony would rather the game not exist than be on another console. The only reason it's on PC is because PC isn't in direct competition with consoles.

>>165612990
>we

>>165612990
>we

>>165612923
Wasn't it because it was the first fighting game to have 1v1? Previous ones were beat em ups/co ups

>>165612990
I don't

>>165612923
You could call Guilty Gear Nintendo and Capcom Atari.

Why wasn't Guilty Gear able to grow despite the failure that was SF3/SF5?

>>165613032
kys drumpfkin

>>165612882
>They did something to earn that mass appeal.
No they didn't. That's the point. They took one formula from other games and made it more competitive. That's it. They just happened to be the first or seen as the first in the genre of competitive head to head fighting games and started a boom.

That's not something anyone else can replicate, you're not going to create a new genre of video game like that anymore, and you're not going to make a game within an existing genre that will ever hit it as big. Street Fighter's continued success was not earned, it was given to it by being the first big one. To this day it's basically the only fighting game people even know outside of maybe Mortal Kombat. It doesn't matter how good or bad or well made or content full or whatever else any other game is, it will still never be Street Fighter.

>>165613120
Overdesigned characters

>>165611947
I said "even if it does" for arguments sake, just for arguments sake.

>Why aren't Guilty Gear players able to do the same?
It has a niche appeal and remember that melee isn't even a fighting game. CSGO is not necessarily an "easy" game to play but it's still incredibly popular. SF will always be the biggest game no matter what because it's more simple to get into, is a classic series, has esports and just overall has a broader appeal which is partially due to it's aesthetics which are not too anime to scare away most people. Most people get into fighters via some form of SF so before they can get to GG, BB or some other more difficult game they need to be hooked on SF usually.

>>165611985
I have never had issues finding games for GG. I play literally all day when I have the time on weekends.

>>165612335
So unless something is popular it's not worth anything? Not everything has to appeal to a million people.

>>165612518
SF created what we know as fighting games. That doesn't make it any better than anything else. SF has lived off of its history and iconic characters people grew up with. Do you think SF4 sold well because people liked the mechanics? Did people dislike SF3 because of the mechanics? No, they disliked 3S because it has weird new characters and bought SF4 because it brought back classic characters. Nintendo is fucking Nintendo.

You get the award for dumbest trip posting spree of the year so far.

>>165613186
>That's not something anyone else can replicate
Funny, since Mortal Kombat, Injustice, and Tekken had no problem replicating it.

>>165613094
Nope, there was shit like Karate Champ and boxing games.

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>>165612791
Rashid is a lucky man (cartoon character)

just had my first rage quiter in SFV

I guess this means I'm getting better

>>165613120
Because SF2 basically established the community. People love street fighter games. Street fighter 4 was the rise of FGC eSports and huge evo numbers.

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even though baiken only had a small amount of players, shes an important part to guilty gear gameplay. she's the character that directly combats "unga" and changes how characters do pressure thanks to her meterless alpha counter options.

anyone who is used to doing the same strings 24/7 is going to have a bad time against baiken.

>>165613284
Mortal Kombat is only known because of violence
Injustice is based off brand name already
Tekken is 3D fighters and Korea.

>>165613397
or you play a bitch character like laura

>>165613412
It's not even same strings, it literally just guessing when to jump cancel when you think she is going to unga-uard cancel you.

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>these trips

Is this what reddit is like

>>165613397
you're probably just extremely laggy

>>165613284
You're an idiot that doesn't read posts but just in case you read this, his point was that those games were at the right place at the right time. MK applies perfectly to your model of success because they went out of their way to offer a gory and violent experience in a genre that was new, violent but had none of that and at a time where it was controversial. It was a concentrated effort.

Tekken doesn't, it's the same story as SF except for 3D fighting games.

Maybe there's something GG could do to grow their brand, but do you have any ideas yourself?

put jubei in bb

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>>165613689
ok

>>165613636
You know I can attach your assumption of my reasoning to your post as well right?

Guilty Gear was the first to offer flashy free form combos. Not even Alpha had the kind of shit that Guilty Gear had. Despite all of that, it failed to gain traction.

Explain.

>>165612668
Because Dota was free and had countless people from the developing world inflating it's numbers (most who when Dota 2 came out contribute jack shit to the game profit). Valve hopped on the MOBA train later on and used the already developed community to develop an esports scene while not doing much else asides from the International which is just a big ad for the game since Valve makes way way way more from the International then they spend on the International despite the high quality they put into it..

On top of that Valve doesn't micromanage the scene or straight up dictate it but indirectly adding to that it does put QC standards on the teams indirectly through the internationals existence.

>>165613284
Injustice didn't replicate shit. You can end that discussion right now because it isn't anywhere as big as any other mainstream fighting game.

Mortal Kombat was famous for starting the fucking legal troubles with video games and how violent it was. It is one of the reasons that video games today have age ratings on them. Again, similarly starting a genre, but more starting a wave of controversy. You are also not getting that anymore because the only controversy to be had in video games now is female representation and diversity, and most people actually don't care about it.

Tekken was basically the first major arcade fighting game put on a home console. Up until Tekken, console ports of fighting games were shit that didn't represent the arcade experience, they were low quality, didn't play the same, didn't sound the same, they were trash. Tekken was the first time that a home port of an arcade game was kinda close to the same experience, and it was on a brand new console from a company that never made consoles before and became one of the flagship titles in the now booming console wars, similar to how Halo blew the fuck up because it was an Xbox game which helped the push for that being in the public eye. You're also not going to get this anymore because of the level of technology things are at and now that arcades don't get much attention/ports and new console manufacturers aren't happening any time soon.

>>165613606
this, fuck trips

>>165613284
>MK
The more realistic visuals and gore, a lot of eastern characters but with a western art style that is reminiscent of kung fu movies. Don't forget le fatality xd

>>165613284
>Injustice
A game where your favorite capeshits can beat each other up, enough said

>>165613284
>Tekken
Really pushed the visuals of fighting games. Tekken 3 was MASSIVELY popular because of it's visuals and the fact that it was 3D. Playstation and N64 were now the standard and so 3D games were now also becoming the standard. Tekken also looks much more realistic, as well as having a very simple control scheme for casuals.

>>165613793
DotA wasn't free. It required Warcraft 3. I'd go so far as to argue that DotA had a harder road than Guilty Gear, since it was looked down on by the competitive RTS players at the time.

Jesus christ now this is both unga and bunga.

https://twitter.com/jav1ts/status/820424416425373701

>>165613120
I learned everything I needed to know about the Guilty Gear community through Jiyuna and Biscuits. If those are 2 of the biggest figures in the game I want nothing to do with it.

>>165613907
Dota was free, nobody in the third world bought wc3

They used garena, iccup, etc.

>>165613770
So you're saying GG didn't put any effort into growing their brand, yet now you say they did, but it still didn't work. Hence the point everyone's trying to make and you're trying to ignore: it's about being at the right place at the right time.

>>165613910
Whats the difference between unga and bunga?

>>165614023
lurk moar

>>165613961
Garena and iCCup didn't exist out of nowhere. DotA support came because of DotA, not because a bunch of devs thought it would be fun to build an arbitrary platform for a specific game.

>>165613996

Well you have to have the right game for that place and time, and then take advantage of the opportunity when it's there.

>>165613910
all this guy does is post impractical shit all day and everyone retweets him

>>165614051
It came because those people played it in LAN cafes, which you probably never went into.

>>165614051
I'd also like to add that there's a difference between WC3 support and DotA support. Garena and iCCup both had specific DotA support with bot-hosted lobbies.

huh, so this is what it's like being back on /v/

>>165613907
You didn't need legit wc3 to play dota.
And even then it was dirt cheap for a long time.
Dota became popular because WC3 was very popular and on casual level it's way less demanding than playing ladder or even random team games.

>>165614089
Sure, but did that opportunity ever arrive for GG? Did they ever manage to snatch a big audience in the first place and build from there?

>>165613907
Lmao wc3 players didn't care about custom games. Dota did not have a harder road at all, it was the first game of its kind to be played by people actually. Wow 5v5 with warcraft heroes!


Actually it shows how being the first is very good. Where is the starcraft competitor? Why are they not popular? Nobody plays Command & Conquer

>>165614160
Why would I go to a LAN cafe? I don't live in a metropolis and I own my own gaming PC. LAN cafes don't make sense in the United States.

csgo didnt get popular until i was 15 bucks either

>>165613910
>https://twitter.com/jav1ts/status/820424416425373701

how can anyone defend this shit

its so easy too

>>165614329

csgo didn't get popular until it got good

when it launched it was a fucking disaster

dank makes hbr and nights seem intelligent

>>165613907
More people had access to the internet speeds required to play dota than people willing to go out and find locals for Guilty Gear. It's funny how you try your hardest to come off as "intelligent" as possible when really you are just autistic.

>>165614295
C&C was the first, not Starcraft.

>>165614295
>footmen frenzy
>hero arena
>tag
DotA had to compete with so many other, much more popular maps and it definitely wasn't the first since people were making modded versions of Blizzard's Hero Arena.

And DotA definitely had the harder road. They got the same treatment that Smash gets today in the FGC. It was known as a custom game that people played if they couldn't play RTS.

>>165614379
i know, i played it at launch

Why Kum is so unpopular?

>>165614382
All trips are equally bad, fuck you if you disagree.

are we being raided by kappa?

>>165614389
>More people had access to the internet speeds required to play dota than people willing to go out and find locals for Guilty Gear.
Yeah, that's bullshit. Before bot hosting, it was routine to play 300~400ms matches because you were playing a game with 9 other people and if even one of those people had dial up, the entire game was fucked.

>It's funny how you try your hardest to come off as "intelligent"
Your projections, not mine.

why is everyone talking about dota

>>165614479
has trouble getting in and his bnb loop is awkward for awhile

imo hes fun but not wacky enough for gg yet

imagine being a mentally ill mobababy arguing with other /v/ kids in the fighting games general

LMAO

>>165614479
fucked up special inputs and awkward to use glowy ball

>>165614593
Do you even play fighting games? If you did then you would actually be able to understand how backwards your argument is.

>>165614295
Starcraft was very far from being the first RTS game lol. WC2 preceded Starcraft and Starcraft got lambasted for being WC2 using space tilesets. I'm also fairly certain that Dune and C&C/RA preceded Starcraft.

>>165614479
Because nobody wants to play a street fighter character if they have a choice.

>>165614654
>why is everyone talking about dota

the hot new meme is to complain how fighting games aren't like mobas

i've noticed it for the past few days

must be this void >>165614593
>>165614750

doing it who finally picked up a trip

>>165614790
thats why no one plays akuma in tekken right

>>165614453
What are you even talking about. Dota never got any hard road at all. It became the most popular custom game and spawned competitions across the world, due to the fact of being the first team game.

Hero arena isn't a team game and none of those other custom games were the same as dota. Pretty much being the first solidified its place. Just like Street Fighter.

>>165614479
Many people don't actually know there is a waifu inside.

>>165614931
It didn't magically become the most popular custom map. There were plenty of even more custom maps before it. The difference was that DotA had dedicated maintainers who regularly added content and balance changes. This resulted in a dedicated DotA community. There was nothing special about DotA at the time.

So why couldn't Guilty Gear players do the same thing? The game itself was updated pretty frequently but the population stagnated for some reason.