/mmog/ - MMO General

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Recommend me an mmo where I can be a priest who heals others, and then whale my way to acceptance.

>>165524519
Has they introduced anything worth doing in this game or are we still stuck?

The last time I played I was forever trying to make money but that's never enough. Making a few billions a week is pretty good for my level but when the OP cashshop merc is a TRILLION, I just gave up.

>>165531291
Perfect world
Wakfu
Tera if you want to play as a little girl
Any F2p mmo
Seriously i think they all offer a way to do that

>finaly getting good with Eniripsa
i need some better cards but i think i'm getting the hang of it.

RevPasta

>What is Revelation Online?
Fuck off. It's shit.

>Current News
None, it's dead.

>Official Links
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>FAQ - INFORMATIVE! READ BEFORE POSTING!
http://pastebin.com

>Resources
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>Can I play now?
Never

>/revog/ Guilds
There is none

>Steam Group
Steam is a meme

So what do you guys thinking about Aether revolt?

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>>165531790
>Tera
Is that game still alive? Or at least, not on the verge of closing?
I had fun with it when it came out, but got bored since I was always alone, so I quit one level away from the cap (is it still 60?).
Why is it so hard to meet people in games where you're always surrounded by them?

I just want a good MMO again. I grew up with SWG, Then CoH/CoV, LoTRO before it was shit, and others.
I just wanna tank or heal or dps or whatever. I've tried EVE but god damn it's the most boring fucking MMO on the planet and I gave it 3 months.

F2P or not I don't care, I just want quality again. I loved Vindictus but the end game is just grinding out gear and it's way worse than any other game, it also relies on fuckin' P2W health pots now and no skill to beat bosses.

It's 2017, how fucking hard is this for these retard developers to make a good MMO?

>>165532065
It's 65. Elin whales will keep it afloat for a long time so it probably won't be closing.

Anyone else playing the new Ragnarok Online server, Rise of Midgard? It feels really vanilla. I'm having a good time.

>>165532065
its "alive" I guess. just really shit with new classes making everything more trivial than it already was
becasue theres no need to work together for an extended period of time for anything anymore.
anything that needs a group just does it with dungeon finder and never sees each other again

>>165532347
>It's 2017, how fucking hard is this for these retard developers to make a good MMO?

Not as hard as it is to find a quantity of people who want a good MMO. Most of the bad design decisions come from trying to find a way to make them profitable, since they're a constant expense.

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>>165532609
>theres no need to work together for an extended period of time for anything anymore.
>anything that needs a group just does it with dungeon finder and never sees each other again
o-oh, ok then.

>Revelation Online

we still playing?

>>165532347
>It's 2017, how fucking hard is this for these retard developers to make a good MMO?
>current year
good mmos arent profitable, they probbaly never will be due to the "gotta have it now" mentality.
>>165532784
Anon there will never be a good mmo. Accept it and get off this dying genre
BDO while it was in CB was the best thing we'd get and even that got ruined by casuals

So I'm in that popular state of mind where I can't get into MMOs anymore.

I'm trying to find something I can get into, though. What MMOs out there might be good? Been trying to figure out Archeage but Im looking into Vanilla Wow or FF14

>>165533905
BDO is still fun. The beta was better, but I don't think the game would have been a whole lot different from what it is now. It's biggest flaw is the entire game being centered around gear grind/upgrades and there being little purpose for fighting over territory. Really should have built something more similar to Eve Online particularly in the PvP and how everything is crafted by players.

>>165534084
The Elysium server might be fun if you want to play WoW again. They just launched a fresh PvP server. Last I played FF was the best WoW clone and better than the official WoW server. Honestly don't know why you would want to play such boring games though.

>>165532347
>It's 2017, how fucking hard is this for these retard developers to make a good MMO?

You forget, none of the MMO developers would even know how to make a good *single player* game in the first damn place.

Take for example: Haven and Hearth.

You have all sorts of mismatched nightmare combinations from all the fuck over.
- Infinite stat/attribute gain, yet permanent death with a dismal 30% recovery on "reincarnation" AND an effective lock during combat @ 1000 skill/stat value.
- Infinite item quality growth due to the above, yet many quality levels are hard-capped by some kind of resource or tool at some phase of the resource cycle
- Possible to be a 6 hour """adventure""" (walking) simulator from map edge to map edge, yet you're able to teleport that distance instantly with the proper structures/magic
- Reasonably easy terraforming, but no actual utility such as forming new cliffs or filling rivers/lakes, etc.
- Fishing that's boring as shit yet completely necessary to improve certain stats during the early phase of the characters' life, because the food/stats system is interconnected and the initial foraged foods drop to 1/2 effectiveness.
- Permits offline character growth due to the XP/LP system, yet constantly ceiling-bumps the player in-game when they exceed their XP/LP-per-hour growth rate.
- All sorts of resources spanning the full skill tree are needed, but the linkages of the tree are hidden and there's no record of what you have/not discovered yet or any physical lock-out warning you that "X is needed to enable this"
- Completely fucking secret and esoteric bullshit that would never be discovered by the player in a single life, or if the developers had not told you: THE FUCKING COMBAT SYSTEM

Just like every other RPG that tries to be an MMO, if the base gameplay is shit, the MMO will be shit.
> Start an Ultima Online private server
> Find out UO was shit all along

>>165534436
FF did feel comfy as fuck and it still looks comfy. The PvP isn't amazing but it might just fill my niche (Let's face it I won't have good open world PvP ever again unless I'm playing vanilla wow)

Albion Online looks like it might be fun.

Honestly though in the back of my mind I'm going 'This is why you quit MMOs for Dark souls'

>>165534594
Haven and Hearth has always been shit largely due to the grind, but it was a lot of fun and a novelty before sandbox survival games became popular. Really the devs making most of these sandbox games are terrible at actual design. I think the problem may be that a lot of devs are very limited in their experience playing different kinds of games and don't fully grasp what actually makes the experience fun.

I honestly think the EVE devs, mostly by chance or luck, got so many more aspects of the MMO right than anyone, but because it's a spaceships and spreadsheets game it's dull as can be 99% of the time. Would be a lot more fun if a lot of the overarching designs were implemented in your typical fantasy setting and some of the more convoluted aspects were, for lack of a better term, streamlined.

>>165534645
Albion sounded fun to me, but I've heard nothing but bad things about it lately.

>>165534594
I stopped playing Haven and Hearth because Russians were basically the psychos from borderlands and they traveled in packs.

>>165534436
LOTRO is the best vanilla WoW clone

XIV is the best current WoW clone

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>>165534594
its a shame, because back in world 3, haven was a fucking amazing political survival game
>two gigantic factions hold half of the lands to their own
>smaller factions that have alliances to said giant factions start popping up
>all that drama, gameplay, gigantic battles, fights, stories of betrayal and victory
>"oh well this isn't a good thing lets fucking re-vamp and re-work everything 600 times"
>"that includes going from a cool not too bad performing 2D to a horrid laggy 3D piece of shit"

>>165535624
The game was still a massive grind, but you're right. Those were good times.

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>>165532613
>Most of the bad design decisions come from trying to find a way to make them profitable
The saddest truth.

>>165535705
it was at least your own time based grind, not some unholy "put curios in and wait a day for your sick LP gain" grind
there was a reason to keep playing for double digit hours, unlike these days where you log on for an hour, do your dailies (farm and replant, smelt some ore and put your coal burner on) and go back to sleep like every other fucking MMO

Fuck games with a world chat. 90% of it isn't even English in a fucking English server.
It's either BR or Indo.

>>165536694
English in my games, but one is b2p and the other gave South America their own servers.

>>165536694
>world chat is english
>all the people spouting dank maymays or trying to pretend they're mature with le sex jokes
>faggots circlejerking openly

TERA was the last time I read global chat channels, never again

Imagine my keks when I realized they were sequestered off the default tab on reinstalling

There was no fixing that cancer

>>165537894
Vindictus on the east server probably had the worst global chat I've was forced to look at because people also used megaphones for trading.

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>Get to level whatever in Wakfu
>Fat dog on a hoverchair wants some enemy scraps
>EZ
>Wait, he wants more
>PZ
>Now some crafted stuff
>Have to go harvest and shit because I'm broke
>Lose the will to go on

I love crafting and stuff usually too, why does everything take so much fucking material in this game

>75 of two different types of wood to make a crate

>>165538734
>that one wood that is fucking nowhere
fucking apu

>>165538734
Doesn't take long if you have a Havebag.

>>165539214
That's why you should join a guild with a Havenworld. Chances are they have all types of flora and fauna.

>>165532613

This right here is the problem with MMO genre.

They cost a shitload of money, so to offset the cost they most try for broad market appeal.

The only way to do this is to pander to shitters/casuals.

Pandering to casuals always ends up being a short term gain that fucks the game over in the long run since players get bored due to lack of challenge.

>put 1b from my main to my alt
>forgot to put it in the bank
>die
>lost 200m
Well, that fucking sucks.

How do I get more money in Atlantica online? I forgot how I made that much since I last played in 2012.

>>165532347
Try Dragon Nest. Gameplay is the same or even better. Though the downsides are a lot more horrible and worse than the couple upsides it has.

Upsides are the gameplay and it's insane group pvp though, and you can pvp without paying2win.

>>165541786
Go craft some Autocraft action III or IV.

That shit sells better than weed. I haven't played in a long time though, so I dunno how the economy is like now but I had over 10b thanks to selling that.

>>165542408
>those ingredients to craft
Jesus christ. No thanks, or at least not now, plus I still need to level the thing to make III+

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>>165533795
Well there will be a 3rd CBT on the 19 so I plan to make a new general then and hope it stays alive. Also the level cap is 69 now.
>>165532009

>>165542910
I remember just spamming crafting books for it when I got lazy and it still gives profit.

Other than crafting, TBS is a good way of making money as well, but I can't remember shit about it. Probably some around lvl 110 or so.

>>165543161
By the time open beta arrives, it'll probably be so dead they'll just close the servers soon after.

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>>165543364
Maybe but I'm still play it.

>>165543542
Fuck off SEAmonkey.

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>>165543695
How did you get I was from SEA anon?

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>>165543854

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>>165543901
Stealing all ya shit.

i just want an mmo experience with guild bros just like in my chinese cartoons

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>>165544440
Tfw no good enough MMO to get databased into.

I wish I was a cute little girl.

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>>165547547
Why, I'd rather be irresistible /ss/ and get dem onee-chans all day.

>>165547547
I wish I was a bear for a day.

>>165547735
dumb weeb poster

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>>165547735

>meeting a mill deck when you have a bad curve as non sram

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>>165548881
I bet you play humies only.

>>165550962
Human are da best.

>bought heroes for 7 days
wew

Have fun.

>brother persuades me to play retail WoW with him
>do everything there is to do in 1,5 months, spend another 0,5 months doing daily chores, unsub
I think I'm finally free of this genre, unless something like DAoC or RO comes along.

>>165552573
Oh, I also would have liked to experience UO, but I was much too late.

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>>165551631
That's a big hand

Whats the best way to level in amakna? cracklers at 30?

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I'd fuck this.

>>165558969
>tfw she makes everything rng during it

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>>165559290
>1% to cum right away
>cum right away as you put it in

>>165558969
>random chance of dick entering arse or vagoo
>1d6 cum amount
>flip a coin: if it's heads, you are ready to go again. If it's tails, you can't get it up for a year.
>Pick a card. If it's worse than hers, you cum prematurely

>>165560301
>1% chance to turn into a cat
>she'll tease you hard and you'll be unequipped to do anything

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>male Fairy
>still has tits

Who is responsible for this?!

>tfw no cute eniripsa bf to heal you and spoil

life is suffering

>>165562282
I'd heal you and feed you my white potions, but only if you're cute.

>>165551631
What MMO is this?

>>165561320
europoors no doubt

so disappointed you can't make a fairy yet

>>165551631

Man, that's an ugly hand.

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>>165532347
>it also relies on fuckin' P2W health pots now and no skill to beat bosses.
you mean the pots that you can buy from the AP shop?

>>165566376
He's 65 and obese after all.

>>165531085
>Not incinerated by an inscrutable intelligence or anti-regenerated
2/10

>Rev up a game of Krosmaga
>Lose to chafer king coinflips

That nerf can't come soon enough, fuck that broken piece of shit.

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>>165532009
>tfw lost all interest after 1st cbt and the massive jewery and incompetence they've shown ever since
I really loved the aesthetics though. I just wish female vanguard could use the lewd body type.

>>165570063

Chafer king is bleh, the biggest sinner is the celestial gobball, thank god is kill next update.

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Mabinogi has a new pet. Come on guys lets play it, anyone from Tarlach?

>>165574430
I'd love to play mabinogi but the only playerbase left are small groups and level 99999^9999 who reincarnated infinite+1 times and just want to rush everything. Not to mention the casualization.

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New class in Elsword. opinions?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAAwSFddcPo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjo9XJmuQtA

If I want something alive, with a dungeon finder, that is not wow, ffxiv, teso, swtor or rift, what do I play?

I'm pretty sure I know the answer.
Nothing, it doesn't exist.
FUCK I NEED A NEW MMO WHERE ARE THE NEW MMOS

>>165575304
Tera.

>>165575364

Forgot that one.
I don't want it, it runs like shit.

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>>165575304
Look one post above you, it's what you need

>>165575505
upgrade your toaster

>>165575304
Revelation Online soon

Some faggots will try to shitpost saying it's shit but honestly it looks really good

>>165575505
Blade & Soul.

>>165574937
not an mmo

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>>165574937
More from that new class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvEtdCJaeH0

>>165576326
Yes a mmo.

>>165575304
A singleplayer game.

>>165576424
>cod is an mmo
>diablo is an mmo
>fable 2 is an mmo

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>>165532347
But DUDE don't you want to play Raid Simulator 2017?!?!?!

>>165576664
But muh cities
But muh few open fighting areas that actually exist in the game

>>165576698
that's exactly what he says he wants to play though.

>>165575304

Play Wakfu anon.

>>165576798
Then why isn't he just playing WoW or FF14 or something like that?

>>165576778
Fable 2 has muh cities, that's why the example is there. Protip: it's not an mmo. Unless the main part of the game happens in an open area (in the sense that arbitrary people can drop in and out of the area as part of game flow), it's not an MMO.

>>165577113
That seems to be precisely what he's asking for, but he seems to be tired of these specific games despite the fact he's asking for a clone thereof.

>>165577258
But it has persistent open areas in the form of cities. and open world mmos still tend to have some instanced dungeons.

I think categorically it should still count as a mmo, it has all the elements of a mmo game, your only complaint is that the element of a persistent world is less dominant even though it still exists

>>165577480
>open world mmos still tend to have some instanced dungeons
That's why modern MMOs are shit.

>>165574937
>elsword

>>165577480
>But it has persistent open areas in the form of cities.
Did you even read my post before replying?
> still tend to have some instanced dungeons.
Yes, some. They're the exception, not the rule.
>I think categorically it should still count as a mmo
I think cod, fable 2 and diablo are MMOs.

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>>165577805
Elsword is fun as fuck and it has some of the coolest characters

>>165578051
>all these edgelord icons
Yeah, coolest characters indeed.

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>>165577763
>ywn again form a group of five retards to save private sharpbeak from the trolls of jin'thalor, only to come across a group of dindus after the scepter whom you pretend to mutually respect until you backstab them when they are vunerable.

why even live fampai

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>>165578021
Doesn't the trade element of Elsword makes it a mmo though? i mean, the trade part of the game is played with a massive amount of players selling and buying gear at once


>>165578150
It's not "Edgelord", it's just cool.
It has some of the most creative and unique classes i've seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GklIMIu0VsI

I don't really like instances, but they do allow for more interesting gameplay.

>>165578331
>the trade part of the game is played with a massive amount of players selling and buying gear at once
So, Diablo-clones and TF2 are MMOs now?

>>165578415
Do they do that?

I mean, it is massively multiplayer.

>>165578331
>>165578596
An mmo is defined by having a shit ton of players playing within the same instance.

>>165578675
That's what happens in elsword's cities, however the combat happens in instanced areas

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>>165578390
>instances
Again, if the special feature of a genre is playing with hundred of players nearly you and thousands at the same time, limiting the numbers is pretty retarded. That would be like playing a 1 Vs 1 games in a class based FPS or something retarded like that (see: WoW arena).

I do like the idea of "lobby + instanced content", like Vindictus or Dragon Nest, they made good and fun games and I think that system could be polished to make better games, but these aren't MMORPGs.

None of you told me what he thinks about the new elsword class btw, we were just arguing whether it's a mmo or not :v

There isn't another thread to talk about Elsword, so i mean, i think it's okay to talk about it here. even if you don't think it's a mmo, you must admit it's at the very least closely related to mmos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR7C6qKlhpU

>>165579374
>There isn't another thread to talk about Elsword
Try to make one on /v/ or something. We only discuss french card games that aren't even close to being a MMO here.

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I miss you.

>>165579068
How do you make an open world boss with meaningful mechanics though?

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>>165579989
Like RO MvPs, obviously.

>>165579852
>tfw I was stupid enough to buy a Digital Deluxe Edition launch pack

what mmo can i play a proper necromancer in
gw2 necro is pretty shit

>>165580624
Rift.

>>165580725
rift necro was pretty acceptable as necromancers go. my main was a priest, though.
i really didn't enjoy nightmare tide and haven't looked into the newest expac at all yet.
also fuck earrings

>>165579852
Did it finally die?

>>165580624
I got to experience Guild Wars necromancers before the minion cap and soul reaping nerfs. Nothing will ever live up to that.

>>165581254
It died about a year ago when they stopped developing it.

>>165581393
it died when it left cb

does runescape have ERP? asking for a friend

>>165581490
osrs doesn't

>>165578331
does diablo 3's? does tf2's? does crystal chronicle's? (of course not).

>>165581476
Nah, it was still pretty alive then. Also, at least it was still a functional game at that time.

>>165578848
Yes, that's the point. The 'playing' part for elsword is not in cities but in combat. The reverse could be true for a specific MMO, but that is not the case in elsword. Otherwise you are implying that every single game is an MMO because you can use steam chat.

>>165578051
>elsword

>>165581605
why not?

>>165579989
Early wakfu or RO are good examples.

Anon playan Project Gorgon, have you found second spoon?

>>165582046
why would it have erp

>>165582015
>Implying Elsword's classes are not creative as fuck

Elsword has some of the most creative and unique characters. just look at Eve, Chung, Luciel and Add

>>165582680
>most creative
>literally copied exactly from dfo

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>>165582863
There is only one class in elsword which originated from DFO and it was not plagiarism, it was a collaboration between DFO and KOG

>>165583127
>not a single positive reaction to me pushing my game, huh
>better keep at it like the total sperg I am

>>165583317
It's because it's genuinely a great and unique game with actual creative, non generic classes

>>165583585
maybe if you could actually use those fucking skills

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>tfw no bakara to drink with

>>165583843

Can't wait to get her to lvl 4. She is literally broken at that state.

>>165583820
Dude, most attacks don't come from special actives but from normals.

Every class has like what, at the very least 4 aerial moves and at least 4 ground moves, which then split into even more moves with the combo continuation system?

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>tfw no Baraka to drink with

>>165582225
why wouldnt it?

>>165584127
>liking bara

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>tfw no Elesis to be bored with

>>165584271
Bara is hot.

>>165582680
so what, the game is still garbage

>elsword

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Are there any mmos that let you play as a skele

>>165585164
WoW's death knights

>>165585280
nice shitty meme.

>>165585280
not even close

>>165584763
No it's not garbage.
I played many mmos in my life, and i think Elsword is one of the best best.

It's one of the funnest mmos out there and the pvp netcode is actually peer-to-peer which makes it less laggy than most.

There is also a very comfy and easy to use auto-party finder, the artstyle is pretty, the characters are creative, unique and fun as fuck to use.... really, it's just a very good game on most fronts.

Literally the only flaws are that paying users get huge adventages and the usual mmo grind

>>165585280
have you even fucking played the game?

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>>165585434
>Playing wow

>>165585432
good for you, everyone else disagrees. continue shilling and spamming that image of elswords classes
>elsword

>>165585701
dont try to dodge how fucking retarded anon is for thinking wow's DK = skeleton

>>165585432
Peer to peer IS what makes games laggy as compared to games that don't you fucking mong. Don't post about shit you don't have a clue about.

>>165585968
That is wrong. peer to peer makes it less laggy, not more laggy. comparing pvp in elsword compared to other mmos, there is less lag for me, even though you will always meet some laggy people here and there, it's unavoidable

>>165585729
>Everyone else disagrees
Wrong. Elsword is actually one of the most popular dungeon-based mmos right now

>>165531085
Project Gorgon, I presume?

>>165586106
>Elsword is actually one of the most popular dungeon-based mmos right now

Prove it.

>>165535931
I can't stand all the newer mmos where most shit dies in 3 seconds or less.

>>165586106
>one of the most popular dungeon-based mmos right now
>not even an mmo
kek'd

>>165585164
There are a few spells that make you a skeleton in EQ I believe.

But as to playing a skelly outright...

>>165585164
rift lets you turn into a skele with a consumable, but it's cosmetic
gw2 give necromancers death shroud which may or may not involve them turning into a skeelton, and also has lich form as an ultimate, but most of the time you're just whatever shit gw2 race you rolled
wakfu has srams who dress like skeletons but aren't actually skeletons
wow has like a zillion toys that turn you into a skeleton

>>165586337
Google trends keep breaking for me, but when it did not break for me it showed Elsword is more populat than Dungeon Fighter Online, Dragon Nest and Vindictus right now

Try for urself maybe it will for you
https://www.google.co.uk/trends/

>>165586451
That's Tera, likely a fight between a 60+ and someone under level 15. It's pretty common to hang outside newbie towns and kill anyone who leaves the town.

>>165586848
*maybe it will work for you

>>165586627
I said dungeon-based mmos, you know what genre i was talking about

>>165586885
>It's pretty common to hang outside newbie towns and kill anyone who leaves the town
And then these guys ask why open PvP games are dead.

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>>165587046
>>165586337
There.

Here is a chart proving Elsword is more popular than Dragon Nest, Vindictus and DFO. Notice how Elsword is better at keeping it's playerbase alive - know why? because it's a better game

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>TFW you lose a GvG against "trolls from 4chan"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe8Sz4m-74o

>>165585164
NOGGENFOGGER MOTHERFUCKER

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>>165555035
Wonder why they removed my post for. Also I'm a big guy and l got a warning. Guess someone is upset I posted about lady bugs. Well to keep this post on topic anyone going to be playing RevOnline on the 19?

>>165587136
He deserved it to be honest. He was stupid enough to ride into it even though he saw it coming from miles ago. Also, he could've just switched the channel. All the player killers are on channel 1 and every area has multiple channels.

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>>165567970

>>165587243
I remember you. You're that tripfag jew guy that got told to fuck off from the Elsword general and then the DFO general because even the players themselves were telling you the game was garbage and you refused to listen.

Fuck off.

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>>165587543
>He deserved it to be honest

>>165586337
>>165586627
C'mon guys, it's obvious he's not gonna stop shitposting so just ignore it.

>>165587758
Yes, he did. As I said, he should've switched the channel in town. By the way, I forgot to mention that he rolled on a PvP server. You should expect PvP on the PvP server.

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>>165587136
Stuff like that only happens on ch 1 I wonder if someone from TFT made low level just walking around ch1 and got pked could we all just gank them and if they bring their guild we could dec on them. But I guess most people are too lazy for that now.

What's with this fucking guy trying to push his Elseword garbage here? Literally the Kingdom Hearts of MMO's. GTFO with that trash.

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>>165587871

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>>165587243
Yup I knew it, this is you. The archive has posts of you getting told to fuck off not just from the Elsword general, but from the DFO general.

The fact that you're still doing this 2 years later and STILL using google trends like it proves anything is pretty sad.

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>>165587753
wew

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>>165587758
The weak should fear the strong.
>>165588008
>he thinks Kingdom hearts is bad
How to spot someone with shit taste.

Oh, so you're just acting stupid. No more (You)s from me.

>>165588165
>Hey i like game, do you like the said game too?

>FUCK YOU :O :O :O HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT GAME :^O

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>>165587543
>He deserved it to be honest
>>165587871
>he rolled on a PvP server. You should expect PvP on the PvP server
I do agree with you. Again, most people don't like to be one-shotted by high level players nor ganked by six dozens of 3rd worlders, that's why open PvP games always die.

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>>165588275
>this is considered talking about the game
Every time you post that god damn picture it looks like you're being payed off to do it rather than look for a discussion. Either you haven't noticed this or you're autistic and don't know how to start conversations.

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>>165588449
I'm not being paid i just want to extend the life of the mmo i play :3

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>>165588393
Away with ye ya dirty elin poster.
>>165588449
Stop getting so triggered that that anon wants other to play a game with them. That is what /mmog/ is for.

>>165588591
>:3
Faker.

>>165588690
If you think i'm the problem, and not the person who made an internet research to cherrypick things i have posted literally 6 years ago to try and make me look bad, you are being really unfair

>>165588393
He didn't have to be one-shotted. Two clicks would've been enough to avoid it.

>>165588872
No, it's the sheer fact that I can recognize your posts from 2 years ago. Fuck off you retard.

>>165588874
Thing is you don't start at lumber town anymore right? I have not did the main quest line in forever.

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>>165588634
Rude, is one of the few pics I have from TERA. I did played with an Elin tho.

>>165588874
I mean in general, not that specific situation. I don't mind if some people want to play a gankfest, but is a shame that devs keep ruining their games balance by pandering to that minority.

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>>165589079
Hey man, if you recognize me, it doesn't mean you have to act like you are my enemy or something

Let's just be friendos

>>165588872
>search crazyaga in archives
>get told to fuck off in every thead

you must REALLY get off on being unlikeable

>>165589142
No, you don't. You teleport to the Bulwark Camp outside of Lumbertown now.

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>>165589079
This is you anon. Why is this you?

Oh boy, we sure are actively bashing a guy at this hour.

>>165589223
Sure, just stop shilling the same fucking picture of Elswords characters and actually have a conversation instead of looking like you're their official promoter and actually listen when people point out the flaws in Elsword.

>>165589252
Every person is likeable for some and unlikeable for others. that's natural.

Some people like me for my intelligence, kindness and niceness, and some people dislike me because i tend to praise myself sometimes and they think i'm narcissistic or smthing

>>165589419
There were very few legitimate points against Elsword

Example for a non-legitimate criticism: when a person here claimed peer to peer makes pvp more laggy, that is just a false statement. the fact Elsword is peer to peer helps reducing lag, although as i said you can never avoid encountering laggy people in an online game

Example for a legitimate criticism: paying users get massive adventages

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>>165589407
>we
Nah it's just 1 or 2 cunts. I don't get why honstly. A anon just wants to talk about Elsword and they enjoy the game and want others to play it with them. I find it too people are getting triggered over this. I also think they should fuck off from /mmog/ if they can't stop gettin triggered by a game that's in the OP and someone talking about it.
>>165589419
>shilling
You should fuck off to /v/. We talk about games that we want to play with others here. Your kind if not welcome here.

I wonder if there is an mmo out there somewhere that is not a grindfest, not a pay 2 win, not unbalanced and above all, not a faggoty animu garbage theme.

>>165589947
>not a grindfest
I don't think MMOs are for you.

>>165589947
What's about Black Desert? it has a huge range of activities so it can feel like it's not a grindfest (i'm not sure about the balance in that game though)

>>165590075
it's a grindfest
classes also aren't balanced

>>165589947
wildstar
it's pretty ded though

>>165589947
I think you should make a MMO then anon. We can make one together!

Anyone going to play the new Darkfall servers?

MMOs would be even more boring if they weren't grindfests in some way though.

>>165590990
The grind should be more horizontal and group oriented. MMOs should have lots of secrets and too to make exploring and just dicking around more fun.

>>165591217
Companies don't care about that anymore. They just want that fast and easy money.

>>165591217
>lots of secrets
Not gonna work when everything is just gonna go down the wiki.

>>165591360
Yeah, it's too bad. Been hoping the MMO genre would get revived the same way RPGs have, but I think the barrier to entry is too high. Maybe if a couple of the kickstarter MMOs do well things will change.

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>>165587357

>>165590075
BDO has faggoty animu garbage theme, is extremely unbalanced, is a grindfest, AND has genders locked to classes.

>>165590425
Wildstar has class imbalance, and is a grindfest.

To be 100% clear, I consider any game a grindfest if questlines alone are not sufficient to level your character

>>165593787
>To be 100% clear, I consider any game a grindfest if questlines alone are not sufficient to level your character

Uh, in WoW, ArcheAge and Tera you can hit cap with quests, and AA and Tera are damn grindfests.

Dofus or Wakfu?

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>>165578051
>Cool characters
But I only see F Gunner

>>165594530

Wakfu is the better looking one. Dofus is constantly getting updates, but you have to pay for it. Both are fine, though, combat in Wakfu is more fun.

Remember to pick Remington.

>>165593787
Quest grind is complete trash. Please kill yourself because you're a part of the reason this genre has gone to shit.

>>165595201
So you hate both grinding and questing? What else is left then, just instantly giving everyone max lvl?

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>>165587543
Thank you. I caught so much shit for killing lowbies from people with zero spatial awareness even though I never bothered anyone that just walked around. Except BRs.

>>165595362
Grind is fine. Quest grind is not.

>>165593787
>I consider any game a grindfest if questlines alone are not sufficient to level your character
>Wildstar is a grindfest
I still don't understand how people manage that.

>Game has gender locked classes
Dropped
>Game has anime faggotry
Dropped
>Game has open unrestricted PvP
Dropped
>Game has a cash shop with -ANYTHING- but cosmetics in it (including boosters)
Dropped
>Game has channels
Dropped
>Game has a launcher/downloader that does not have a pause/resume function
Dropped. This one in particular fucks a lot of games.
>Game has class imbalance or tries to lock classes to one role
Dropped
>Game is extremely graphically intensive but has no real substance to it
Dropped

I could go on. I'm extremely picky.

>>165595448
You're welcome. It's not like there's no way to avoid PvP in Tera. Some people have to learn the hard way.

>>165595815
So you don't play video games altogether? Sucks to be you.

>>165595815
Play single player games. No game will ever cater to your needlessly picky needs.

>>165595815

Why should ANYONE care about you or your shitty picks? GTFO idiot, no one cares about you.

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>>165595815
Sounds like you should just make your own game then mate. Or pay someone to make a mmo for you.

>>165595815
>Launcher/Downloader stops downloading because internet goes out for 2 seconds
>Trying to resume gives a corruption/error and you have to start all over again

Also, define "Anime faggotry"

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>>165595815
>doesn't like games with "anime faggotry"
>comes to a site full of "anime faggotry"
Seems you are extremely retarded too.

>>165596442
Anything I don't like.

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>this thread

Five minutes for new quest and coin on Krosmaga. Wish me luck anons!

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>>165596565
No one cares anymore mate. But we try to talk about MMOs but some people get triggered.

>>165596991
you mind putting your trip back on?

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>>165596565

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>>165597025
I don't have a trip anon.

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We did it again Reddit, got my gold pack quest done. Some people say it's impossible, but when you got it baby, nothing is hard.

>>165600691
Nice.
I can't even win one game.

>judith card is bugged and comes back to the user's hand even with dofus destroyed
lol

>>165601170
>cra/sacrier/iop

>>165593787
>To be 100% clear, I consider any game a grindfest if questlines alone are not sufficient to level your character
but you can hit 50 through quests in ws super easily

>>165601512
I don't have a Sacrier deck or an Iop deck.
And Cra vs Cra is a crapshoot for me and depends on who draws their spell cards first.

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>>165600691

And I got the fucking Dragon Pig. orz I wanted a waifu.

Well... is a solid card. 4AP 5/5/3 shame is so BORING. Some people will say is good because of the broken golden pig but I fucking hate that card. Oh well.

>>165601170

I have around 140 games played. So far I can say, yeah, this game is way more complicated than HS. You need not only to know how your units work, but master shenanigans and field strategy. Knowing which lanes to attack, put pressure or downright ignore (or fake a ignore) is big.

Who do you main?

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>>165531085
How dedicated are you to your God(dess)?

>>165602253
Right now Cra.
But I want to save up enough fragments to make either a Sram or Sacrier deck.

>steal joris with marline
>win off of it

Man, fucking celestial gobballs giving infinite defense, UPDATE PATCH FUCKING WHEN

>>165605162
Celestial Gobbal + Excarnus is stupidly broken.

how is vindictus?

>>165606017
ded

>>165606329
i assumed as much but what isnt dead these days i just want something to play

>>165606017
It's okay.
I always come back to it.

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>tfw cant enjoy any mmo anymore

dont know wtf to do really.

>>165606017
not an mmo

>>165608525
yes it is.

>>165605331
half the cards are stupidly broken. Only the rare/expensive half of course.

>>165608641
t. inbred

>>165608641
>>165607259
Is there anyone on the EU guild alive?

>>165609354
Seriously doubt it, it was dead two years ago.

>>165607572
Play some Katamari Damacy

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>>165602412

>Sacrier
>Sram

Muh nigga

I'm so bored. Give me a game where i can just grind on the same area, no quests bullshit...

>>165610571
Wakfu.

>>165610571
Wakfu

>>165610623
>>165610654
>Heroes promotion on
Guess i'm gonna play Wakfu.

>>165609559
from what i can see 5 people logged in today so some still play i think

>>165532560
teach me how to do this

I never got to play Ragnarok Online

>>165615865
Also interested. Tried Rangarok a few times over the years, but being a loner I never got into it.

>>165610571
Tera online.

>>165618029
I'm not a pedo.

>>165618940
They have elves for faggots like you.

>>165620340
get help

>>165620575
Unless you live in Germany, you can't get help for being a pedo. They're the only country that treats it as a mental illness while other countries like the US or Canada treat it as a crime and would rather just lock you up.

>>165620575
The only person that needs help is you, faggot.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/12111751

>>165621760
If you're going to pay for heroes get a masq, they're fun and useful.

Currently playing iop/masq

>>165622061
>masq
>useful
Not really. They drop off at level 170+

>>165622186
>

>>165622298

>>165610571
Project Gorgon.
It's mostly just grinding. It has quests, but they're few and far between and don't give experience or anything, they just make NPCs like you more so you can sell them more shit/buy their shit/get them to teach you shit/get them to introduce you to their friend who will introduce you to a dog who will turn you into a werewolf.
All leveling is done by old fashion grinding.

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Why aren't you guys playing TOS?

>>165610571
OG wakfu didn't have quests. Hell, money didn't drop from anything either, it was entirely player-crafted from harvesting metals in the mine. Then they ruined everything.

>>165623225
I am. It's a comfy time waster while waiting for a good MMO, but I'm not really sure why I'm playing it over a single player game.

>>165623225
Because it's garbage.

>>165623225
I was just playing, now I'm playing DFO

>>165621760
>'
the fuck did you do
play cra though

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>>165623225
>people actually play this

>>165623225
It's boring.

>>165623575
Strawpoll hates apostrophes.

I really wish Wakfu had more NPCs. The world feels dead and lifeless.

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>>165626243
All of those are pretty shit except for Osa and Sadida.
Sram is pretty fun. They can make clones and teleport. And they have traps now too.
Masqs can be built as a DPS or as an off-healer. They're fun if you like AoE skills.
Sacrier can tank, not as good as a Feca but good enough. Plus damage. If you like fighting with low health then this could be a class for you, they're a berserker class.
Never played an Enu but they can turn into some kind of werewolf thing. A crapton of MP.
Osa is a jack of all trades. You can build it as a DPS or a support/healer.
Sadida is the same except either a tank or support/healer.

The most useful ones are Osa, Sadida and maybe a Sacrier.
The most fun are Sram, Masq and Sac.

>>165625987
It's because they tried to shoehorn WoW-style mechanics into a game which inherently didn't even remotely worked that way. Because of the way previous mechanics worked, players wouldn't just stay at astrub temple 24/7, they'd instead be in towns. Not just in the main towns but also the trade bridges. Not to mention there would always be people traveling between these areas. This way shit didn't feel empty.

>>165626949
They they finally make sacs useful? For years they've been useless sacs of shit, significantly worse tanks than all other options, significantly worse damage dealers than all other options (with crap mobility because they need to swap - which put allies outside the area they need to be, or enemies in the middle of your safe formation, fucking your shit up), worse movement support than alternatives... they didn't fit any niche and the sum of their parts was that they were shit except at solo leveling.

>>165627338
Only for their pull. They're still shit overall but they can lock pretty well.
If a team doesn't have a Feca then the next best choice is a Sac.

wakfu sucks

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anyone wanna play with me

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>>165627615

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What is the next "big" mmo people are going to play /mmog/?

i just wish and ride the waves when the floodgates are opened,
doing somthing for the first time with all the other retards learning what you can and cannot do!
i want to be a noob!

>>165620575
>>165618940
I want normalfags to leave.

>>165630541
I want pedos to leave.

>>165630804
2D doesn't equal 3D, you normalfags parrot the same moronic shit over and over.

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being a healer in a raid is so stressful.

It's like being the tank in a MOBA.
Everything is your fault.

>>165632047
It's only stressful if you have stupid teammates or can't communicate properly.

>>165632047
Yea it's your fault this dick is still hard, a good healslut would be sucking it by now

>>165533795
Ya im waiting for cbt3

>>165575304
Revelation online soon anon

>>165632047
>tank In a MOBA
What the fuck are you playing, LoL? That game is shit and you're shit for even playing it.

>>165633704
I've never played LoL.

I should stop playing Krosmaga.
Matchmaking is shit. I always get matched with rank 50+ people.

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>>165634202
>I should stop playing Krosmaga

No kidding.

>>165634454
And done uninstalling it.
Maybe I'll come back if they fix matchmaking. It's stupid how a rank 5 is matched up against a rank 80 with Krosmics and level 3 infinites.

Are there any MMORPGs out there that even try to stick to the WoW model anymore?

I dislike this stupid trend of buying a base game and everything past that is a new dungeon released every year, and they expect us to be content with that plus a ton of cash shop crap because we aren't paying a sub.
And then there's FFXIV that needs a sub AND gives you almost nothing.

As a general rule nowadays I'm going to try to avoid free to play.

>>165635330
what's the wow model? buy to play plus sub plus cash shop plus buy again every couple of years?

What server on Atlantica?

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>>165635330
XIV was weird because in 2.0 it updated frequently with dungeons and stuff, but in 3.0 they decided not to give a shit at all. 4.0 has a bigger budget so it may be better but who knows. I'd wait and see first.

Wildstar has the WoW model too, but the content drought is real, with the skeleton crew they have. Though they're trying, I guess.

LOTRO is WoW-like and updates even less frequently.

No game besides XIV really does the subscription model like WoW because they can't get away with it anymore. But Final Fantasy is a big pedigree, and the relaunch showed it was willing to try, at least for awhile. Who else can get away with it? Too much F2P competition to make a large continuous investment with no sub, but no sub because they can't release a product from the onset that would be able to compete with WoW either.

>>165635658
Does not matter unless someone is going to play with you.

>>165635840
Was 3.0 really that bad? Was close to endgame on 2.0, but my friends quit and the /vg/ guilds are just erp faggots.

>>165635840
>Wildstar has the WoW model too, but the content drought is real, with the skeleton crew they have
ws is free to play now
it has a sub which includes a couple of useful things(a lot more than it did when f2p first launched) but nothing you can't go without

>>165635540
There was a time (right after I stopped playing WoW) that no sub fee seemed like a good thing.
I really wish F2P hadn't exploded like it had. I always used to complain that subscriptions were shitty but then once I broke free I realized the world beyond was a barren, soulless wasteland where the only safe havens were semen coated shells of games that hooks you in on one gimmick and keeps you in stasis, feeding you just enough life to keep you from venturing too far until you eventually forget what it's like to run free again.
Wildstar was supposed to be our next bastion, the next promised land once WoW dries up. I think everyone who was to inherit it was too fearful of leaving their homes in WoW, so much so that their eyes turned from the future to the comforting past and present. And so Wildstar wilted, and now the future rests with floundering projects like GW2, korean shitfests like BDO, and mired cumtraps like Tera.

>>165636154
The so-called /vg/ guilds are just like 15 people on one server who shitpost constantly. But then, that's kinda the problem with FFXIV. It looks really nice but there's no tiptoeing outside the boundaries, the game is a literal padded room.

>>165636930
also wildstar was buggy as shit on launch, failed to QC their first two or three content patches like, at all, didn't advertise, and had three separate poorly-executed launches
i do like sub-to-play when accompanied by the sub token system in eve/ws/rs/wow, but it required a decent population of casuals to really work

>>165637574
Yeah, w* was a bit ambitious with the sub token system at launch too.
It also looks like they never plan on releasing any expansion packs. What that tells me, personally, is that the game never plans on improving.

>>165638438
They released RMT, which is a new raid. Bugs aside it's pretty good. They're adding rift's planar attunement system and wow's mythic+ dungeon scaling in the near future, although opinions are divided on how well the two will work

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>>165638847
>wow's mythic+ dungeon scaling
>in Wildstar

my body is fucking ready