/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #462

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>>165469326
With Chloe, that immediacy and intensity of her expression obviously also is correlative of her directness and jumpiness, in mood and otherwise.

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BFFs, Pirates, Partners in Time & Crime & In Love, Fellow Dorks, GFs, Wives.
OTP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhvZxmgLfNA

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Max is #1

I'm sorry for the grammar mistake

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>>165469875
Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!)(thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't or butterfly,bluejay just spiritualdoe
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's storm summoner just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget

I just figured out that Max said "kek" because it means "lol" in Orcish (World of Warcraft), not because 4chan meme .

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>friendly reminder that turning off your game is the confirmed canon ending

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/bigfoot-photographed-in-northern-ireland

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>>165465915

>>165470992
how was living in a cave?
(maybe she subtly meant 4chan meme who knows)

>>165471624
How was living in cave?

What?

>>165471874
that means, are you new here?

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>>165471368

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>>165472087

Chloe did some things wrong.

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>>165470903
not sayin' he is a bad guy or anything but is really there a something extra-ordinary,interesting about Warren? if so I'd like to hear it.

>>165472484
Eventually she had realized her faults and Max helped her to 'heal'

Everyone makes mistakes.Not a villain type ''wrong'' things of course.Only disney type of characters are flawless which's far away from being realistic.

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>>165472498

>>165472549
Well, the topic of conversation was expression. Is there something interesting about Warren in the eyes, his facial expressions or body language?

I think there is. As the other anon mentioned, particularly after the Nathan confrontation there's a lot to talk about there. They did a good job on him as well, his physicality is distinct, it says more about him and opens way to interpretation. Again, I wouldn't say he carries nearly the same meaning and depth, in expression or otherwise, as some of the other characters, but there's also more to him.

For example, and for something you'll certainly be inclined to agree, some of his expressions look outright psychotic. Like the smile in the photo he has in his locker. Or the way he slowly turns his head and blinks two or three times when Max stands next to him, wanting to tell him what's on her mind. That is well done. It partly shows the awkward obsessiveness that is part of his characterization. But there's other, more "positive" things there as well. His helpfulness and awkward kindness shines through in his expression as well, at times.

>>165472549
>something extra-ordinary,interesting about Warren
His motto is ''sensitive means won't be having sex with you''

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STOP PLAYING THIS GARBAGE AND MAKE SEASON 2
REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>165473150
see? you can't tell any.
if anything I wouldn't call confrontation with Nathan as good(let's ignore the fact that how badly directed that scene wasafter being tough! yeah he was standing there like a half coward half innocent kid.after hours,he got drunk by half beer because he beated up someone in his life and worried about his scholarship.again,i am not calling him bad.i'm saying after his bravery! attempt he also got scared in the deep.

not denying his positive sides.his awkward obsessiveness with coward+innocence helpful look is obvious from his expressions,behaviour.but really there's anything deep about it still.

i liked that pic btw.send more

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>>165474281
>he doesn't know about the deleted tweet

>>165473150
I agree. I'm the "other anon".

There's shame after going ape on Nate.

Also, his blinking and head turns do look psychotic. He almost reminds me of a submissive insect, or self-retreating slug, to dehumanize him.

His voice waverings show that obsessiveness, too.

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>>165474281
What did they mean by this

>>165474631
There's also cowardness.

>>165473150
>>165474631
What about Kate's expressions? I'd like to hear that too.

>>165474595
What tweet?

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>>165474407
I just told you examples right there. Again, we are on the topic of expression, I had no desire to go into anything else with him.

I think they've also captured the kind of rigid posture of young awkward outsiders like him well. No real awareness in the way of holding themselves, unhealthy even, fine-motorically underdeveloped. He hardly moves his neck or makes casually confident movements.

He has the weirdest headbutt move-in, kicks lamely at the gun and then staggers over to Nathan to beat into him, almost mechanically. That looks so weird, a mix of awkwardness, lack of grace, but also something psychotic.

The height of that might be his penguin walk in the impossible ending.

>>165474631
Yes, when Max stands next to him about to actually open up to him, it is deeply satisfying to him. That blinking - and I'm not sure whether it's actually a glitch - is so drawn out and overdone. Creeped me out instantly. Like he wanted to replicate trustful intimacy, but not only does he lack the naturalness of the motion, the dominating emotion here is also more of the orgasm of the intimacy, not the trustful feeling, for him.

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>>165474675
>mfw she thinks we'll see Max and Chloe again
Someone has to tell her to truth.

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>>165474774
Later!

I''ve just realized it's Friday the 13th. I ought to snack and watch some horror flicks now.

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>>165475004
Whenever I see this scene this comes up to my mind.

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>>165474407
>send more

>>165475094
>that pic

Oh great, another Bayfag...

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>>165474857
>he doesn't know about ''he doesn't know about the deleted tweet'' bait

>>165475004
Indeed, he's opportunistic, and the car park scene's body expression are perfectly done.

You've hit the nail on the head with the fight. I felt it was unsettling, I just couldn't put my finger on.

His "Agh" as he kicks the gun is so disconnected from his body's lack of enthusiasm.

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>>165475582
>''I want to see Max and Chloe again''
She doesn't seem like a bayfag.Or actually chose that ending and thinking storm will be back if they make a sequel.

Actually it would happen if they make a sequel.But problem is they'd already stated that we are not gonna see them again.Haha:(

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>>165474281
What are they trying to hide from us?

>>165475803
It was also brillant that his trying to hug Max and then,Max's eye roll moment/wtf is he doing expression when she noticed that what he was doing.

>>165475803
>His "Agh" as he kicks the gun is so disconnected from his body's lack of enthusiasm.
I was thinking about exactly that when I typed that.

It's like he sees his opportunity to be grossly violent, now, probably more so as a feeling than conscious will, but he hides that violent enthusiasm from himself (and later is ashamed because of it; how much of that shame is another way of hiding things from himself and others would be another question) and Max and Chloe, and uses the "Agh" involuntarily to make it seem as if he's in distress of a fight, when really, or at least partly, he's also certainly ready and willing to go the fuck to town, has probably fantasized about something along those lines for quite some time.

>>165476157
something about Vampyr? or just commercial

>>165476281
>was willing to got the fuck to town
>then he was willing to not kick'd off the school

>>165476281
I see it as a build-up. He's almost swaying as he prepares, like he feels the violence will be an orgasmic release, and the "agh", is "No, you're not with that gun, bitch, I'm just getting started" as it builds to the beating.

Have you ever watched Cannibal Holocaust? There's something so "Warren" about it. The strange music, the acting, the actual violence seems like his holy grail.

Also, what movie you watching for 13th?

>Michel too busy playing Overwatch and trying to get out of bronze
>Some writers come in and make sure season 2 isn't shit

Win win.

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>>165476157

>>165477006
He will use his imagination to get out of bronze.

>>165476982
That scene is really annoyed me was also disturbing.Not even mention Nathan's zero attempt on fighting with him

>>165477006
>Shortly before it's finished Michel hits silver
>He decides to check out what's been done so far
>Only the endings have to be finished
>"I have an idea."

>>165476982
I could see that. The anticipation of the violent ecstasis, and the gun gets in the way of it, and so he breaks his breath-holding preparedness when the gun comes out and threathens the release. Like pre-cum, perhaps. Similar in their awkwardness and situational unfittingness as well, lol.

I did see CH, but cannot remember too much of it. Not even the general feeling. Maybe I should watch it tonight. I was just going to tune into my regular streams for classic horror stuff. I associate the creepiness of Warren's violence more with outsiders I've actually known in my life. Particular one that snapped and beat down a Chad with ease. That awkwardness turning into effective brutality is so weird a sight.

But while that certainly is an interesting side of him, and I definitely do see it in his expression, let's not forget that it is also a complex, being the bullied outsider, wanting to be confident, also wanting to impress Max, and so on. It's a syndrome of things, and we know he is mostly benign and also kind. That weird, creepy, almost psychotic edge is something he could absolutely still grow out of, being 16 and all.

>>165477786
Of course.

I found him mildly likable in game, save the interest in Max. I've shouted out, "Fuck off, Warren" a few times when he was on screen, kek. I did feel that same warm safeness as I did with Chloe, that came with just being around a dedicated ally, in a game of threats and intimidating people, though.

I'd say watch CH. It's pretty extreme, with rape and real animal deaths, but I think it's good.

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>>165477506
>Stop, it's DILEMMA TIME!
No Michel, no!

>>165478524
Yeah, it wasn't really warm, but I also never felt threatened by him, at any point in the game. Not as a romantical threat to Pricefield, not as a sexual one to Max, not as a physical threat to people around him, not psychologically threating as a crazed lunatic.

But there's that psychotic edge there, something more to him and his expressions in body and dialogue than just awkwardness and immaturity. Don't think he'd ever develop that side more, and more likely grow out of it or be able to hide it away completely, but... you never know. Serial killers and psycho killers do come from somewhere, ha.

Will watch CH. Kind of have the suspicion I'll grow bored with it a quarter into it.

Or perhaps, I'll "laugh my ass off"... he he...

>>165478082
nose ruins it

>>165479745
Yeah, these violent films that throw it at you can get repetitive pretty quickly.

CH isn't just repetitive gore, though.

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>>165479745
>mfw I never get the ''Kiss'' option

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Daily reminder that you will never have something like Chloe and Max have.

>>165474281
>>165474675
>>165476157
>>165477036
What character does Michel mains?

>>165482801
Symmetra.

"You lack imagination."

>Friday 13
It's time. I'm finally gonna chose bay ending. This time only.

How come nobody in this stupid game cares about the fact that Max teleports around them right in front of your eyes?

How come Max can just pop into another timeline all of the sudden and there be no other Max that only knew that timeline?

Why are there so many fallacies in this game that doesn't make any sense?

And why do they keep saying hella and wowser?

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>>165483739
Because /lisg/ is extremely biased and don't care about anything other than" MUH Max and Chloe, kiss kiss love, everyone else is shit, if you don't choose bae you're retarded get the fuck out, muh lesbians Tumblr"

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>>165483739
>>165484423

>>165484737
Prove me wrong bitch, the only diversity are the avatarfags that think they are a rabbit

>>165484423
Nice bait, and tumblr maymay.

Bay is logically retarded, like you.

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>>165484737
>>165484896
please don't support the shit-stirring.

>>165484896
>it is logically retarded to choose saving thousands of people and an entire city where your home and friends are over killing some annoying cunt and saving everyone else because muh love or something
You might be the retarded one here

>>165484896
>He thinks I don't see the Tumblr filename
Even tripfags like scat story writer left this shitty place

>>165485290

Scat is my friend, and I know he still comes here anonymously.

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This is /lisg/ in one picture. No Kate, no Victoria, no Warren, no Daniel, no Juliet, no Lisa etc... It's all about Max and Chloe, and if you don't agree with bae ending then you get kicked out for being stupid and not following their culture

Which of the characters do you most look like?

>>165485703
Because Max and Cloe's friendship carried the game

>>165485703
This is the sad truth, but it is what it is and nobody can change(for better or worse) lisg except for dontnod

>some annoying cunt
>muh love

OK, back to your containment, /pol/

>>165486010
Max.

>>165485703
There is literally lengthy posts talking about nuances in expression of Warren of all characters in this very thread, fresh as it is.

You beep should stop trying to stir shit up and actually talk about things to do with the game, as /lisg/ has always done.

Have nothing interesting to say? Thought so.

>>165486010
Nathan.

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>>165486034
Oh you're right, you totally didn't need anyone to blow up the principal door lock, Kate also is so insignificant that Chloe gets jealous because Max simply answered a short call

>>165486462
main characters>side characters

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>people still answer to obvious shit stirring

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>>165486717
>Life is strange doesn't like bullies
>Lisg bullies anyone that chose bay ending
> /v/ is always biased toward one thing
>/Lisg/ biased over the bae ending
Really makes you think
>>165486924
Not ignoring and reporting. It's okay you'll be able to post here again in 8 months once you reach 18 of age

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K8 H8s B8.

Name one (1) lisg thread that doesn't have any Tumblr fanart written all over it. Go ahead, I'll wait right here.

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>>165470623
It's ok. Everbody makes mistakes.

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>>165487660
>People make mistakes
>Others die because of that
>The people who made the mistakes have character development
The circle of life is beautiful ;)

Anyone got that webm of Max showing off her moves on the dancefloor?

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It IS Friday the 13th. Good thing Chloe's carrying a little piece of Irish Luck.
Kate can also carry Alice and that's like four rabbit's feet (Plus the rest of the rabbit!)

>>165441997
The storm grows in power each time Max changes the past. She comments on how time becomes more unstable as she jumps into more and more photographs.

What changes did she make after taking the photo in the Bay ending?

>>165439458
>''She is carrying condoms in her wallet''

She carries condoms once Max has returned, meaning after Rachel went missing. I'm guessing she's bi or enjoys the occasional dick once in awhile, even if she's only romantically compatible with women.

>>165457642
>But you rekt yourself
So true. I spent so much time paying attention to the characters that I neglected to stare at their feet. Dear me. I'm not a true fan of the game.

>She's not a walking stereotype, as I agree is one of the highest achievements of dontnod with this game: authentic, alive, interesting, human characters.

I never disagreed with that. She's one of the more human tomboys in modern fictional media.

>implying you agree that unbroken nail polish is at least also-fitting.

...Um, I mean she has to put it on at some point, but not maintain it the way.

>Also note that worn-in nail polish was always neat at some point.

Thank you for that bit of wisdom. I'm forever in your debt.

>Let's just stop, and let me ask you instead where you live - what wonderful place indeed, where people that do not put much effort into their appearance look like Chloe Elizabeth Price.

She's a fictional character. Aside from people played by Steve Buscemi, most leading and supporting characters are good looking. Please come back to 4chan when you're 18 and have removed your head from your ass.

>Congrats: consider yourself fortunate that in your short time here, you've made a little bit of /lisg/ history.

My life is fulfilled. I could die right now.

>>165465401
I could see her doing that with nail polish.

>>165465394
Her entire face is that way. There's a childlike vulnerability present when she dares Max to kiss her. She wants something, but is to bashful to ask for it directly.

>More bait
>No other characters are allowed
Oh please. People post tons of characters here.
Yeah the focus is obviously on Max and Chloe, but nobody complains if you want to talk about side characters. The only thing people dislike are crackshipping characters that dislike each other together.

>I'm guessing she's bi or enjoys the occasional dick once in awhile
Fuck off.

>>165469875
Max would be balled up and crying from enduring that level of attention.

>>165470565

My Misfit Skull shirt came in the mail today. I'm excited.

>>165474407
He was jolted by the adrenaline rush and release of pent up emotions. Realizing he had it in him brought up some bad memories. Warren didn't know he was capable of such physicality. It's a natural reaction.

>>165481617
Only Pricefield would make such an uncomfortable position look comfy.

>>165482742
An obsessive male fan base that mostly derides lesbians as sexual deviants? What. A. Shame.

>>165491860
That's the most logical explanation for the condoms in her jacket. Chloe doesn't come off as the type to take sexuality too seriously. She does whatever makes sense to her at the time.

>>165492645
Im' waiting for mine too! I hope redbubble shirts don't come in shitty quality.

>>165492645
/lisg/ doesn't deride lesbians as sexual deviants.

>>165492839
It's not the most logical explanation. They could just as logically be leftovers, or "emergency" condoms. She outright says Rachel saved her from boys and that she finds the boys there gross. The game suggestion pretty clearly is that she had been over boys since her phases she's hit before Rachel, i. e. 2-3 years back, and that she obviously wouldn't have pursued anyone in that half year.

And for someone that you think doesn't take sexuality seriously, she seems to be pretty sensitive to the sexual extension of her romantical feelings for Max, blushing furiously and averting her gaze, visibly and audibly overwhelmed with the physicality of her love for her.

I will agree and say that I can also still see her being able to appreciate heterosexuality, and that while her romantical interests lie exclusively with women (or Max, specifically), it's also possible that there's a distinction between the sexuality of the two for her, and that's why she's more sexually shy and sensitive when it comes to Max.

>>165493825
Guy talks about Chloe not taking sexuality seriously and taking dick casually once in a while, and then says others are deriding lesbians as sexual deviants.

Classy gent.

>>165493775
I see you dumping pictures you saved from /lisg/ all the time for the last two months or so.

I like that.

I for one accept you as a new tripfriend.

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>>165496947

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>>165497231

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>>165497181
but i've been only been here for two weeks

>>165498215
Butterfly: Hey, nigga, how you doing.
Chloe: What the fuck? Why is it here?
Butterfly: Well, I guess you were having a happy time. Think again, faggot. I'll be seing you again at the end of a bad decision. Bye, nigga.

>>165498215
Oh, then it was someone else reposting all those olde images, and I apologize to that loyal poster.

But you're also still welcome.

>>165498537
wtf i hate butterflies now

>>165498694
Because of my post?

>>165498694
Butterflies don't actually feel that good when they land on your hand. They have these horribly spindly legs with barbs.

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>>165498537
Fuck that butterfly
>>165498694
thanks m8

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>>165498920
I was merely a-memin'.

But we all know the Butterfly is a motherfucker that ruined everything.

>>165498975
I was always pretty spooked by them when one was in our house. Moths are worse, but butterflies are also weird. Such a little wormy insect with such huge wings.

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>>165499314
Not too fond of moths either. Butterflies look pretty though.

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>>165498920
And your post was funny.

Chloe's facial expression fits your exchange so well. At first she'd smile a little when it lands on her hand gracefully, and then it turns out that dirty ass flapper is hella rude. Her sad disbelief is so funny with your post in mind.

>>165500034
They do.

Looks can be deceiving.

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Which of them would break the fart barrier first?

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Goodnight /lisg/.

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>>165500854
Why the trip tho

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>>165500854
Night.

Don't let the bed bugs bite.

>>165500724
Butterfly: P.S Nice wall boobs, thank God I'm not a fly or I'd have to be on that well-endowed wall.

>>165495253
It's only one person. Everyone else got the (entirely obvious) hints Chloe was laying down.
She had a phase where she was with guys and it didn't give her the love she as looking for. It ended when she met Rachel and hasn't continued.
Lesbians can use condoms too. and I remember someone saying there's a chance to check her wallet later in the game again and they're not there.

>>165501765
Chloe: Won't be needing these cock-suckers anymore- I'm riding the Max train all the way to dykecentral.

>>165502028
They were probably in there for a while and she forgot. Remember, the most valuable thing she carries around are the keys to her truck. Her wallet carries her ID and if she ever buys stuff with cash it's probably just in her pocket.

>>165494380
Emergency condoms? As in Max has a medical emergency and grows a dick?

There's a difference between physical attraction and romantic interest. Chloe may still find some men attractive and want to fuck them, but is in love with Max. By not take sexuality seriously, I meant she doesn't spend hours reading about the history of lesbians and the political implications of sleeping with both men and women. She's a free spirit; Chloe fucks who Chloe fucks. Her connection to Max made her nervous. Other hookups, perhaps even Rachel, were less serious and more a byproduct of boredom than a deep rooted attraction.

>>165501765
How do lesbians use condoms? If they disappear later, then she's definitely only into women or preparing for a committed relationship with Max.

>>165493285
I'm wearing mine now. I forewent the typical first wash. It's comfy. The print is a little blown up, but no more distorted than in the game.

>>165503118
Use them on dildos or they can can be cut and use as dental dams.
Not that it matters. Chloe is clearly past any phases involving men and she says so. The only time she comments on a guy in the game is Jefferson, and it's to fluster Max.

>>165495253
Up until I saw the condoms, I subscribed to the lesbian theory. Her hooking up with whomever she feels like fits her Bohemian personality. Keep in mind she borrowed money from a drug dealer to runaway to Los Angeles with no connections or even a high school degree.

>>165503635
That's true, but Chloe doesn't strike me as the type to stop in the heat of the moment and go arts and crafts on a condom.

And yeah, I agree with the bit about her flirting with Jefferson to test Max and fluster her a bit.

>>165503728
Your "vision" of Chloe is no better than a Tumblr headcanon that says she's really a man.
It ignores the evidence in the game and contradicts how Chloe speaks and acts.
You are wrong.

>>165500853
Victoria

>>165504302
"Everybody lies."

--Chloe Price

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Chloe's a girl and she's totally fine with that.
She slept with guys in the past, thinking it would make her more mature or give her love she was missing, but it didn't. She met Rachel who actually made her feel loved and it was after meeting Rachel that she realized she's into girls (Her past actions do not matter or determine what she labels herself as). Hence hwy she described her time with guys as "a phase" and said how "Rachel saved her from Blackwell boys".
Even though Chloe liked Rachel and as a future together, she knew deep down it wasn't going to work and that the one she really loved was Max. After Max came back, Chloe is given the love and happy future she deserves.
She's with Max, that's all she's ever really wanted, and she will NOT go behind Max's back with anyone. Chloe is extremely loyal and honest and her biggest problem was people not returning that loyalty and honesty (Not a problem with Max).

Got that? Good. Back to cuteposting we go.

>>165502867
She had them before Max was back. Emergency as in she's had them for quite some time, just in case.

That Chloe is that sexually easy-going is your view. I don't share it. The game shows that physical intimacy is something important to her, something sensitive (what I've said about her behaviour with regards to Max, that it made her sick that Rachel posed for Frank, calling her more outgoing phases stupid, calling boys gross and the idea of sex with Frank specifically gross). I think her phases were that of a confused 16 year old looking for affection and not finding it, and they do not necessarily include outright sexual promiscuity.

I do not think she's had hookups after meeting Rachel (again, she outright says Rachel saved her from boys; she literally says she did not entertain boys anymore, what more do you want?) and she was crushing on her for years, not having acted upon it precisely because she is not as sexually and romantically aggressive as people too often casually make her out to be.

But again, I admit that there could be a distinction between sexual attraction that is an extension of romantical feelings (infatuation with Rachel; love for Max) and a purely sexual attraction. I do not claim my view is the only one, but your idea of her regularly having fucked people even up until the game week, and boys specifically, is not only not the "most logical", it is canonically disproven and heavily unreasonable.

>>165503118
They do disappear, but your idea that that would be the sign that she's prepared for a committed relationship, and not the thousands of hints and her entire characterization of wanting trust and loyalty and tenderness and not to be abandoned, but to stick to people and for them to stick to her, her jealousy and possessiveness and caring and love, and, and, and... - that's just sad.

>>165504874
Oops. Meant to say "She saw a future together" (In reference to her and Rachel)

But they both knew it wasn't going to work how they wanted it too. Chloe and Rachel both had different types of love for each other. And even if it was never directly said, they both knew it.

>We will last forever.
>I will always be with you.
>I will always love you.
>game portrays a great soulmate-tier love story, but some classy gent thinks the condoms disappearing is what solidifies their committal to one another, not the literal time-transcending, universe-defying bond that the entire narrative pivots on

Well, today has been fun.

>Chloe tomboy discussion
>Warren's nuanced expression discussion
>Chloe's condom discussion

Some LiS history.

Warren's expression anon, do tell me your verdict of CH.

>>165507037
Let's not forget the nail polish discussion. That was top tier.

>>165507547
That fitted in with the tomboy discussion.

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How many of you came to lisg just because pricefield made it to PewDiePie's today's video?

Discussions topics as asinine as Nathan's Jacket, but with none of the relevancy.
Fantastic.

>>165508228
Not asinine. It offers interesting insight into characters.

>>165507037
To be honest, I did lose the motivation to see it through about 20 minutes in, and mostly skipped through from there. I liked the latter part of the story and the attempts at anthropological and societal commentary on the barbarity/savagery of humans and how it manifests in their communities, and the ways in which it does. I stayed tuned-in for some of those scenes longer, the more graphic scenes there included.

It really is not a repetitive, senseless gore fest, and even the gore itself has more aesthetic appeal than many slasher flicks. It's even strangely calming to look at with how drawn-out it is, and with how the perspective mostly shows either the people watching the footage/scenes play out interestedly, or often that amateur video footage view through bushes and stuff, from a distance. I guess it's easy to fall into a voyeuristic comfort with that.

Obviously I didn't get much of the "feeling" of the film, but I can'T help but to kind of associate it with Warren now, lol.

>>165507547
That one is not done yet. Well, it isn't should I feel petty enough again tomorrow to shoot another reply.

>>165508353
Insight which is already given in the game. These are just attempts to erase the good qualities of characters because they don't fit a personal ideal for how you wanted that character to be.
People saying Chloe is some sultry, primal, badass that will bed anyone just for fun. When a big part of her character is showing she is the exact opposite of that: A girl that didn't think she would ever feel loved and that hid away her true nature under a guise of not-caring so she wouldn't get hurt anymore than she already was.

Max and Chloe are adorkable!

>>165508727
That said, I also hadn't watched an outright sexually violent movie in a while before this, and I genuinely do have a problems watching those scenes, now. Not strictly to do with LiS - it's been a growing aversion of degeneracy and sexual degeneracy specifically over the last years.

>>165509381
While I disagree with a lot of the new anon's views on the game, it's always good to be sparking discussion if it happens on a reasonable basis. Those views of his I consider entirely, undebatably unagreeable for me I just don't reply to. But he does also make reasonable points I can reply to.

Is Chloe feminine enough to be wearing nail polish? That's an at least somewhat interesting question, even if most know their answer already and have never even thought to question her wearing nail polish.

Why does Chloe have the condoms? The devs put them there for a reason. Sure, realistically, there's a lot of reasons she could have them, and the game is meant to build the characters realistically. The game confirms she is not sleeping with boys, and hasn't for a while. It also heavily suggests she hasn't been hooking up with anyone, for that matter; otherwise she wouldn't freak about Rachel having been with Frank. But still, it's worth talking about, and this anon at least brings a willingness to talk about things at length.

I also think he misinterprets Chloe, but at least he makes a meaningful distinction there, saying it is a strictly sexually free-going attitude she has in his mind, which he separates from the romantical. I don't think they can be separated either, and I also do not see her that way. But it's not entirely unreasonable.

His condom remark does seem horribly blind to the entire narrative, but it also shouldn't be blown up to mean things he probably didn't mean with it. At least I hope he doesn't actually see more romantical committal in the absence of condoms than in things such as a character screaming in tears that they will always love someone.

>>165507649
Such an important topic shouldn't be reduced to a mere talking point in a larger discussion. In fact, the next few threads should be dedicated exclusively to this topic. Surely there is a wealth of undiscovered insight to be found in a "Chipped nail polish vs Well maintained nail polish" thread.

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>>165512794
The rise of the legend continues.

Have some chipped nail polish Chloe cosplay.

>>165512490
To Chloe, sex and romance are the same.
She's looking for romance and love which is precisely why unemotional hookups did absolutely nothing for her and why she dropped them when she found someone she had genuine feelings for.
As well as why she is pissed when she learns Rachel was sleeping with at least two other people. It's a betrayal of her trust (Rachel telling her she didn't have sex with Frank) and of what she (perhaps foolishly) thought was a relationship she and Rachel had.
That last point of what Chloe and Rachel were, and what they weren't is up for a big debate. Though the last time I remember seeing it, /lisg/ was pretty common with their consensus of it being one-sided romantic feelings and Rachel not wanting to hurt Chloe by shooting her down.

>>165513152
Okay, I thought I was being so snarky and cool. But that chipped polish actually adds a lot of personality to the cosplay (and to some extent even the character).

So team CP all the way! (I'll need to think of a better name at some point.)

>>165514328
Note that the argument was never about neatly-done vs. chipped-and-faded nail polish!

We actually agree that the latter would be more fitting, for Chloe.

The original statement I was arguing against was the other anon's idea that nail polish altogether is at odds with her character, does not fit her presentation in the game (at which point he didn't know she literally wears it in the game), her personality or aesthetic. All of which I disagree with.

I do agree that it doesn't seem realistic that she would re-do her polish every day, and in the game it stays neat throughout the entire week, including the pool visit and all. But we all know we are getting into even more ridiculous territory with that, arguing they should have chipped away at her nail polish, lol. They actually are pretty detailed with their character designs (Nathan's wound, dirt on their clothes, facial expressions changing depending on choices, and more), but that's unreasonable to expect, of course.

>>165513923
I mostly agree, and have talked at lengths about all those things multiple times in here. Maybe I'll go more in-depth about it tomorrow, again.

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>>165516468

>>165516854
Chloe sitting in her cleaned room, getting frustrated with the online classes she's doing, and then thinking "Do it for Max" before she sighs, takes a sip of her coffee, and gets back to work.

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>>165517024
That's actually exactly what's happening there.

Maybe she'd also take a short break to send Max a dorky message, or even a selfie.

>>165517241
I'm sure a little message and pic would motive Max to do her work as well.
Then once Max gets out of classes they can go out on a date or just hang out at Two Whales.

Joyce and David must be proud of Chloe and how she's turned things around.
William would be proud as well (And is watching over her)

Thanks for saving and helping her, Max.

>>165465401

why is chloe in panties in front of warren?

>>165475885
does this have to be posted in every thread?

>>165470546
NEEDS to be posted every thread!
Glad that when I'm not able to do so, someone does.

>>165505007
I too doubt that Chloe hooked up with anyone while involved with Rachel. It does bring up the question of why she carried the condoms.

Chloe has abandonment issues. She has a hard time trusting. That hurts her chances of finding a relationship. She still has sexual urges, especially being a teenager. It's natural to assume she separated the two, as most teenagers do.

What she has with Max, and to a lesser extent with Rachel, is genuine and pure. That's not to say she had more carnal relationships with others. Once she got with Rachel, it's fair to say she became a lesbian.

That's what I thought until I found the condoms. It's either poor writing or she's not as defined sexually.

I never doubted her loyalty to Rachel or Max. Please do not put words in mouth. Chloe refers to the Blackwell bros as boy toys, men she kept around for fun, a.k.a. casual sex, hence the condoms.

>your idea that that would be the sign that she's prepared for a committed relationship

Again with the depositing of words in my mouth. I'm not discounting the other signs. The condoms disappearing is another part of that. Fucking hell. Just because I said she doesn't seem like the type to spend hours on nail polish doesn't mean I'm retarded, asswipe.

>>165517648
Two Whales was destroyed by the one whale that landed on top of it.

>>165522074
No no no and no.
You're once again putting your own thoughts and beliefs onto the characters, who have their own.
Chloe did not separate sex and romance like you claim and it's already been shown she sees them as mutually exclusive to each other. Why she stopped having sex with guys she didn't care about, why she was pissed at Rachel and Frank, and why she was so cautious around Max.

>>165522204
Rebuilt and made better.
I guess it's called "Three Whales" now. Joyce and David own it. Chloe and Max still have a special booth in the corner (Well the special part is hidden under the table cloth)

>>165522405
Chloe was cautious around Max because she was hurt by Rachel, hurt by Joyce shacking up with Madsen and hurt by losing her father.

She fooled around with guys. That's obvious. Stop pretending she's a pure kissless virgin because it ruins your own sexual fantasies.

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>>165522530
The special part is in Nathan's pants. He was rebuilt and made better.

>Pic related

Just kidding. He died.

>>165486010
I dress like Chloe and am male like Warren.

That makes me the Bean King.

>>165522549
I'm not. She said she slept with boys and that it was a phase before she met Rachel. It's over and not happening again.
You (or others) are looking way too much into it and saying "She has condoms, they means she still slept with people and didn't care because sex is just sex and there was no love involved" and acting like Chloe is someone incredibly sexual.
She was cautious with Max because she didn't want to get hurt if Max left again, but also because she knew Max promised not to leave again and it was clear Chloe had more experience with that stuff in general. As much as Chloe talked herself up, she was scared that she would do something to hurt Max.
That's why she admits she slept with guys with no problem, but she treads like she's on thin ice when it comes to even flirting with Max. Because she actually cares and wants things between them to be done right and not rushed.

That's not a sexual fantasy, that's being able to understand characters and not look so much into insignificant things like finding condoms in her wallet.

>>165522697
I was thinking that all the tables in Three Whales have cloths, but under the one on Max and Chloe's table is a bunch of pictures.
Photos of them when they were younger, more recent photos, postcards and stuff from places they've traveled. But when the cloth is on it, it looks like any other table.
The restaurant itself is decorated by some Blackwell students and there's a contest a few times a year to make something that gets displayed inside.

>>165523383
I drew the conclusion about her laisse faire attitude towards the act of sex in the context of hook-ups from when she referred to her male sexual partners as "boy toys". The continued presence of condoms strengthened the theory.

There was a tomboy-ish character from the L Word. I forget her name and may be forgetting some of her actions. She hooked up with a lot of women, but once she was committed to one she never cheated on her.

That's how I envision Chloe. She fools around, but when she decides to commit she's loyal to the relationship unequivocally.

She will also act differently around Max, someone she has a strong platonic and romantic bond with, than the rest of the characters. Chloe put on a flirty air around Jefferson, acted casual with Justin and was aggressive with Frank. She's more complex than you're giving her credit.

>>165524083
My mistake. I thought you meant what they did beneath the clothe that no one else could see.
What song plays when Chloe proposes to Max? I pick this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1YGuOt8T9Q

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>>165524316
kek. No, they don't defile the diner. Well I didn't specify what I meant with that first post, so that's my fault.
It was my feeling that she proposes when they finally get to go to Paris. So whatever music is playing in the park. Probably just some ambient noise from a street performer. Which just so happens to sound like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRQPc-PK1gM

>>165518795
The real question is why is he letting her paint his nails?

>>165525935
that's not the real question at all.

1. he's more focused on his fast paced game he doesn't have the luxury to tell her not to

2. sometimes guy just let girls do that to them, girls have fun they put it on and then they get rid of it for you.

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Live action series when.

>>165526019
Chloe paints his nails then kicks his ass at whatever game they're playing.
Then after Warren leaves, Chloe and Max get it on delivery. They both wanted pizza so they called a place to bring it to the dorm

>>165524635
Chloe looks to waifsh in that picture, unless Max got a matching sleeve and blue hair. That's a bit SWF, creepy.

>ending credits

How original...What about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEyxUoNmtnA

Either way they'll play this at the bachelorette party: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyVSKydUxKk

>>165527575
Legendary Studios bought the rights to a television series.

>>165528372
It's the artist in general. (Kristos74/Noelzzz) it looks like they use figures or faces for references, or they drawn in an anime-ish style, so they don't look identical to the characters.

>>165527770
Video games, friends over, then late night pizza and snuggles.
Sounds nice.

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Sleep tight, /lisg/.
<3

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Somebody's doing the raping

Kate + Max/Chloe = No
Gtfo with that shit

>>165533504
No, you. Look it up.

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>>165533504

Would Max visit Kate when the time comes for Alice to go to the big strawberry field in the sky?

>>165533504
The only Kate + Max/Chloe ship is called friendship

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>>165533504
Eat shit cunt

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>>165537439
Did someone say Marshfield?

>>165537439
>>165537524
CUTE
They're such good friends

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>>165533504
Nice false-flag, Marshfield fan

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>>165537729
Yeah, friends...

>>165538158
>false-flag
>Marshfield fan
Yeah, nah. Kate can go find her own lover. Max and Chloe have zero interest in her.

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>>165537729
>They seem to be very good friends

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>>165537439

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>>165539529
Kek

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>>165501049
Does it Bother you Anon?
>>165539529
Hot

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In case this hasn't been posted yet.

>>165540583
Shit, i forgot the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zQtYmFCb0

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>>165540335
Kind of, never saw reason to use a trip personally.

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>>165540778
Well, each to their own.

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>>165540583
>having a threesome while wearing sunglasses

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>>165541270

>>165541270
>>165541738
Would Chloe like Alice?

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>>165542231
She would definitely like her but i think she's more of a dog person.

>>165524204
The L Word character was Shane.

That's an interesting analogy. Thanks for the new headcannon.

>>165485256
>>165485290
>>165487086
>>165491637
When will this cancer over?

>>165545580
unfortunately never.
you can't cure cancer

Aren't you tired of LiS? Why are you still posting in this thread? And why is Warren a cute?

Not been here in ages.
How is everyone? Card games still happening?

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>>165491637
>The storm grows in power each time Max changes the past. She comments on how time becomes more unstable as she jumps into more and more photographs.What changes did she make after taking the photo in the Bay ending?
So that's what you got from the game.
The storm doesn't grow in power in each time Max changes the past.Storm's triggered by Max's action in bathroom.While game's message's don't ruin the past, Max'd already made changes by ripping contest photo to not attend SF gallery.That's why whole plot doesn't make sense.

>>165492839 >>165502867 >>165522074 >>165522549 >>165524204
>tfw they are still talking over this issue
Nobody's saying or denying she had boy toy phases fooled around with boys.You said yourself that Chloe was having tough past and made some stupid things to anger her mom and her step dad after she did hurt Max's absence and shit.That's why we are saying they are left overs.

Canon explanation in game,which Chloe said herself was she stopped fooling around with guys after Rachel came into her life and glad that she saved her.From what we've experienced Chloe's genuiely an outspoken character who doesn't hide anything from you.For 6 months she was dedicated to find but to your headcanon while she was looking for Rachel she was fucking with people.Is this really reasonable to you? (to your headcanon also she wanted to fuck with Jefferson so...)

Also you are not seeing them in her pocket after Episode 4 (where she said sorry to Max after their fight in the same day,said she will take her from the blackwell)

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>>165546578
>''let's examine Warryn's expressions''
>''I kinda see myself in him''
>''Warryn a cute''
what happened to you guys?

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>>165546701
Welcome back tart, and yes they are. But in private now, leave your discord ID if you want in.

>>165546578
>And why is Warren a cute?
How old are you?

>>165547467
Hey Kate!
Why is it now private?
>leave your discord ID
Just downloading and making an account now :)

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>>165547467
count me in 232213804564348928

>>165547439
There is obviously only one shit-stirrer here lately. (I'm not talking about the ones who were talking about his unnecessary expression)

where's Katemarshfan69? he was the only likeable tripfag in here

>>165548778
>Why is it now private?
We've all moved to the discord and there was a lack of enthusiasm when we post them in the threads.

>>165549305
Aah fairplay.
Okay my ID is tartRAD and the number is #0266
No idea what I'm doing haha.

I'll add you in in a second, kind of busy right now.

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>>165548802
>>165547467
Wrong number[\spoiler]
My ID is Artios #9665

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>>165549909
Sorry, we're not taking in any new members. Do join us if we post a link to our games in thread however!

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>>165552234
Alright.

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>>165474183
Oh looks like someone already posted it but its so small.

Here's a HI-RES version for you guys,
H-How'd I do /lisg/?

>251 replies and 120 images already
>33 posters

Man, I feel like /lisg/ is dying slowly...

>>165553405
Most of us are in here for the long run till a second season/game comes around and this general explodes again.

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>>165470705
again just stop

>>165553976
Tradition goes a long way...

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>>165553094
I'm not too sure about what is going on with her legs, but other than that I like it. The perspective with her hand is nice, and I mean, it looks good.

I especially like the sentiment of the drawing. That "I will rip apart space-time for Chloe" determination, and how it is reflected by her almost intimidating expression, the violence of her power disintegrating her sleeve, and the "shades of Chloe-blue" chaos of the background.

Good work.

I also like that tummy.

>>165491637
>I neglected to stare at their feet.
You made the argument that nail polish doesn't fit the presentation of character, not knowing her character literally wears nail polish in the game. I'm not saying you rekt your game experience by not noticing. You rekt your argument.

>I never disagreed with that.
I never said you disagreed with it. I've said right there that we agree on that. Humans can wear nail polish even if it does not fit into your image of what they should be like, as "tomboys", "punks", or whatever else you think she is that should prevent her from wearing nail polish.

>I mean she has to put it on at some point
Yes, that is exactly what I had meant as well. Who's to say she didn't apply it on Sunday or Monday? Point is, at some point she'd apply it, so she would definitely be wearing neatly-done nail polish at some point, for some time, and it would be entirely fitting.

>Thank you for that bit of wisdom.
I'm not claiming there's wisdom in that fact, but the sheer simplicity of it seemingly was lost on you: you stated she wouldn't wear a neat coat of polish, but you do think a chipped and faded polish would be fitting. One cannot exist without the other.

>She's a fictional character.
A fictional character we were arguing about whether spending ten to twenty minutes every other week applying nail polish would be a thing she'd reasonably do. I say she absolutely would, she canonically does, and it is entirely fitting with her personality and aesthetic. You do not think so, because in your mind she's a penultimate tomboy that is not meant to wear nail polish, that she would not put effort into her appearance and nail polish would exceed the effort she'd put in. I think that's proper rubbish. Look at her.

>>165522074
>I too doubt that Chloe hooked up with anyone while involved with Rachel.
You seem to regularly forget in the course of an argument what the argument was about and what your original statement was.

Nobody denied she's had "boytoy phases", and while it is entirely speculative what that exactly entailed (I obviously do not think she's a virgin, but the idea that she had fucked around freely at 16/17 is fucking weird and unrealistic even regardless of her character; it having been mostly make-out sessions is just as, if not more within the realm of what toying around with boys at that age entails), you took the condoms to say she was still hooking up with boys casually, occasionally. When in the game it is outright said that she is long over boys, calls her phases stupid and boys gross. When that is completely outrageous a notion considering she was infatuated with Rachel and felt betrayed and sickened by her even just posing for someone else. But she took dick occasionally still, being the free spirit that she is? Are you listening to yourself?

>It's natural to assume she separated the two, as most teenagers do.
Most teenagers masturbate and do not casually fuck around.
And no, that separation is not something I see with her. We see that the physical is an important, sensitive aspect of her romantical feelings for Max. We see that she didn't like the physicality of Rachel's involvement with Frank. We see that she considers her more sexually outgoing phases stupid. I think the interpretation that she was more sexually outgoing because she was desperately looking for affection and dedication is way more in-line with her characterization than the idea that she was viewing it as something separate and fun. It was precisely about the connection between the two, and she gave up on it when she realized it is not there. Why would she call her more outgoing past a "phase", "stupid", and consider herself "saved", if it was merely for the fun of it, for her?

>>165522074
>The condoms disappearing is another part of that.
Now, I really don't think you are retarded. But again I seemingly have to remind you of what you said, and the simple implications of it: You said "IF they disappear later, THEN she's definitely" - that is a conditional sentence, the reverse conclusion being that you are tying the "definitivity" of her being prepared to commit to a relationship to the absence of condoms... when the entire narrative is all about their committal to one another, when her characterization majorly revolves around overcoming abandonment, i. e. striving, yearning for commitment, when she says over and over again that they are together forever, that she will never leave Max, that she will forever love her, that they will last forever, when they have each other's backs, protect, care for and fight for each other throughout it all, when she copes with the death of Rachel thanks to her love for Max in the course of a day, when her grief and anger over the death is washed away by concern for Max, when she takes Max's hand in the end and reassures her that they will always be together, unconditionally accepting the tremendous choice she's made and leaving with her smiling despite it all, when the entire narrative is a testament to the significance and literal time-transcending, dimension-spanning, universe-defying, all-obstacle-overcoming nature of their bond. But of course, all of that is not definite sign of her committal - it takes the condoms to disappear before we can definitely say she does not want to surf dicks...

I am blowing the sentiment of your sentence out of proportion, as I had admitted in another post. I see that you are not that utterly blind to the characters and their story - in some respects more so on the contrary. But you make it easy for me to want to blow it out with some of the other stuff you say.

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>>165553094
Good work, QTori!
I got the same impression as >>165554298, it's capturing Max in a very 'badass' pose where she's showing off her power and pushing herseld. The hoodie tearing away, shirt rising up, the nosebleed, and the necklace defying gravity- definitely signs of a lot of energy.

SuperMax giving it her all to undo something terrible. Which is honestly, for some time, how I thought the game was going to end. Max on the cliff, with Chloe, nearly killing herself to do a focused rewind on the storm.

>>165503728
I don't care much about your reading of her as a bohemian whatever; you complained about other people deriding characters as sexual deviants (which is completely, diametrically untrue with regards to this general, and really, the fandom at large) while simultaneously presenting your idea of a character casually hopping on dicks and sex being detached enjoyment for them. (A character heavily implied to be near-exclusively into girls, both sexually and all the more otherwise.)

>>165522549
Chloe was cautious because she is genuinely romantically (and sexually, as an extension of that) sensitive. She was also scared to ruin the love they share as friends, thus carefully flirting and testing the waters whether that love could be more than friendship for Max, as well as trying to not get too emotionally attached and invested into Max as that (which she magnificently fails at during the first moments of reuniting already), because she's scared of hurting should Max not return the feelings, or leave. A fear that she overcomes through Max showing her that she is there for her unconditionally, eternally, just like they heal and help each other overcome fears and other obstacles from within and without throughout the whole game, growing respectively, mutually, and growing closer to one another.

Your idea that people here want to see her as a virgin for their sexual fantasies comes completely out of nowhere. I don't think anyone's anywhere ever argued she's a virgin, despite the canonical lack of direct evidence that she isn't which would allow one to do so if one desperately wanted to have that headcanon.

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Pricefield is best field!

>>165557430
http://arhivach.org/storage/4/e1/4e1ca3c1640784239d41600e892efd4e.webm

>>165558165
Nice!

I want to hug Max

>>165560265
We know, Chloe.

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Max is a bad person haha :)

>>165561737
Trolling aside, anyone that truly thinks that is an idiot.
How can your standards be so high that someone 'using a superpower to help others' still means someone is bad?

>>165562032
Michel only said that Max isn't the great person she thought she was.

>>165562335
Which she never claimed to be. If anything, Max's biggest flaw was that she kept understating and underestimating herself.

>>165562785
Indeed.

>>165562032
With getting older and coming to know more of the world, my standard as far as "good people" has only gone down. For example, people actually, genuinely opposed to hurting other people are already good in my mind. Studies and reality have shown over and over that a majority of people can and will hurt other people without much real apprehension.

Max, having used a godly power to help others instead of using it for the evils that I suspect the vast majority of humans would use it for, is a literal saint on my book.

>>165562335
Which is also bullshit considering she beats herself up over her choices and second-guesses herself, the growing-out and overcoming of which is part of her character development to actually be more confident in herself and the choices she's made, get involved in the world, stand up and fight for what she cares about and feels is right, accepting and embracing herself for who she is and how awesome she is.

Self-love is nothing bad - it is on the contrary essential to attaining any happiness for yourself and those around you in life - and the idea that it would be is equally as tragically, cruelly, inhumanely blind as the one that saving another life life was selfish of Max, or that she was wrong for having followed her heart and is at fault and to blame. Metaphorically understood, as you should in a narrative, the destruction of Arcadia is not an actual decisions between many and few lives, it is only symbol of whether Max can accept and embrace herself and all that entails and stick by her heart, convictions and choices even in the face of great calamity.
(And in another narrative sense, just one more obstacle overcome serving as measure of how much more their bond is; how much more human bonds are than human tragedy and the chaotic whim of the cosmos.)

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http://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/bigfoot-photographed-in-northern-ireland

This has to be bullshit news, right? Paranormal news station making shit up - the name is not coincidence but intention. Right?

>>165564187
Holy shit. LOL
I had to find another source to make sure you weren't pulling my leg.
Max DID say she wanted to take Chloe on one of the 'Bigfoot Tours' of Arcadia Bay. Guess she also convinced her to do one on their trip to Ireland.

>>165564187
What the fuck?

When did Max get dogs?

>>165564187
It says she's 49 in the video.

>Max traveled from the year 2044 to warn us about Bigfoot.

>>165565226
She liked Pompidou and Chloe wanted a dog.
Guess they got one. But as >>165565476 said, she's messing with time again so it's probably not their first dog.
I saw what this "Maxine Caulfield" looked like. Unfortunately not as cute as our Max.

>>165563630
The tornado being representation of her fears, and posing the question whether she can overcome this biggest, final hurdle that is herself: can she overcome her insecurities, fears, her self-blame and stick to her convictions and choices, her heart - or does she cower before it, letting it dictate what she does, ducking down and eating shit with tears in her eyes, regretting herself, sacrificing herself, identity, sacrificing love, humanity.

And as said before, a tornado is such a pathetic thing to imagine could pose any threat to the love in and between them. Their love transcends time, has created and destroyed entire universes... but when faced with a tornado, the impossibility of being torn apart that had existed at the start of the story already so powerfully that Max literally defied the entire universe for it - that impossibly powerful bond now should turn into a willingness to give up on itself, and letting it die brutally, alone, desperate on a bathroom floor?

I get when people talk about the lives in Arcadia, the love they also must have had. But it is not Max's fault, and not only can those people also fight for their love as they always will have to in this world where tornadoes and other tragedies come and go, where humanity manifests itself precisely in that clash, but this is a story, and to sacrifice Chloe in the end is, as somebody else has put it, "the most self-deluding intellectual-cowardice" - worse even, it is inhumane, cruel blindness to that significance of the meaning of the main characters' bond and the trials and tribulations struggled and overcome through it, the growth in it, the optimism and humanity in it.

If Max was not meant to save Chloe then she would not have gotten any power.
But she did, so you have to accept that she saved Chloe and cannot ask her to give that up.

>>165567141
>it is inhumane, cruel blindness to that significance
Well, it is at least if people actually only see it as the shallow, meaningless, narratively-irrelevant "few vs. many" dilemma and are making that kind of choice, morally or otherwise.

I can get why some people would want to see the message to be that we can overcome the loss of a loved one that was so dear to us, that the bond transcends even death, that they live on in a sense, we carrying them with us and finding happiness after them...

But that's just, powerfully, not the story here. It never shows that overcoming of Chloe's death apart from one strange smirk. Let alone imply anywhere that their separation is good for anything or anyone - themselves certainly not (it literally kills Chloe to break that bond, and it'd kill Max too), nor others. Even the freaking storm comes in the universe we see where they are separated. It only shows that they are better together, showing the brilliantly mutual and complementary beneficial energy of their bond, establishes their love and its strength, its power to hold through and get them through all the shit, to overcome adversities and adversaries from within and without.

And to ultimately prevail, even in the midst of it. Not only despite it all, but with all of it also as symbolic homage to its overwhelming significance and strength. A literal timeless love. A universe-creating and universe-destroying love. A storm of love, if you will. That is the scope the game sets for the significance of its characters' bond, so how could its intention possibly be to break that bond?

>>165568495
I agree. Though the idea obviously is that she asks herself, in the end, we are quite sure of her answer... but not all players are.

>>165569104
What is that smirk even signifying?

Peace of passing, feeling like she's still there, memories?

>>165570692
"Oh god, I can't do this."
I give Max a few days at absolute most before she pulls out the butterfly photo and goes back to save Chloe.
Either the storm still comes, just later, or Max feels too much guilt/sadness.

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>>165570692
It's supposed to signify her acceptance of Chloe's death, and the notion that she'd hold Chloe dear in memory and spirit. A sentiment of moving on without forgetting, which I guess could also be a sentiment of "overcoming", for Max, in a way for Chloe, in some strange way maybe even for their relationship.

All of which is completely contradictory the narrative I saw and the characters and their bond I've come to know. It's impossible, and for me the smirk in this impossible ending can only signify the madness of waking up in an impossible universe, and the oncoming madness of absolutely having to escape that universe - by ways of her powers should she still have it, or by ways of suicide, should she not. She cannot exist in it, they cannot live without the other, and so she rips apart time and space and makes it so, or dies trying.

Pic related: Max seconds after that strange smirk, probably.

>>165570864
>Either the storm still comes

Are you fucking retard?
The tornado doesn't come in the Bay ending, the intention behind this choice is to save the town but you have to sacrifice Chloe.

>>165572203
Rude.
There's still a potential that the storm comes at a later date. Obviously not what the game intended, but what it logically shows is that it's possible.
That it may really have no been from Max or that since Max made other changes before saving Chloe (For that second time in the bathroom) that it's still coming.

Not that I care. Max saved Chloe, the storm happened, crimes were exposed and things were rebuilt, related or not things worked out fine.

Max smells...

>>165574793
Good.

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>>165574793
A little sour because she hasn't showered or brushed her teeth yet! (She's waiting for Chloe to be ready, so they can share the shower and save water, and time, among other things.)

>>165574793
like sex, beer and cigarettes.

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>>165564187
If you follow the Daily Mail link under the article you can see a photo of that woman.
I-I don't think that's our Max.

>>165576039
Like almond shampoo, cucumber hand lotion, the detergent Joyce uses, and a little like Chloe.

>>165576080
Good idea! Very eco-friendly.

>>165576951
Yeah, it would have been the icing on the cake though if it was a cute little brunette lass with freckles.

>>165574775
I love this one. Wish there were models for Ryan and Vanessa some it would be a 3D render.
People could make other nice scenes with Max's parents in them as well.

Max is a hella good person!

Chloe is a cereal good person!

Michel is a terrible person!

>>165580737
>>165582554
>>165583630
Correct!

>>165583623
Cute!

>>165583630
N- No, he isn't!