/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>tfw lose interest in creating a character once I hit Undead Settlement
Going through the game is so boring.

>>165307476
You're fucking kidding, right?
>less AR than Greatsword
>worse scaling than Greatsword, is completely inferior with Refined infusion
>same fucking moveset

Its only selling point is its strike damage, which matters worth jack shit except maybe in PVE. And that it looks sexy.

>>165308710
Why though? I can see why someone would hate going through that area again but it's not like it takes that long to rush through. Unless you dislike the areas after it as well.

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Why did Miyazaki just throw in the towel and decide that every piece of loot in III needs to have a thrall or slime fall on you when you pick it up?

I think more crystal lizards that ran into enemy hordes would've been better.

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I fucking hated DaS2 and Das3 so I have virtually no reason to be here, but I miss DeS and DaS so fucking much. I miss talking about them here and playing them with folks from here.
Feels bad, man.

When's DeS coming to PS4?

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>>165308920
never
But you can be like me and make DeS cosplays in DS1 and 2

>>165308856
Don't forget how literally every other chest in the second half of the game is a Mimic.

>>165308856
>normal blobs are annoying and tedious
>figure out fire kills them quickly so nbd
>get to smouldering lake
>fire blobs everywhere
thanks miyazaki

>>165308920
>When's DeS coming to PS4?

Ask Sony.

Miyazaki said that if they did remaster DeS, From would have literally no involvement, it would be purely up to Sony. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-director-talks-franchises-legacy-poss/1100-6441636/

Meanwhile, the Sony Team (SIE) says that they rae focusing on "ambitious projects" and PS4 hardware specific games (aka, PSVR). So don't get your hopes up. http://www.4gamer.net/games/000/G000000/20161208073/ (there's a translated Dualshockers version of this but I can't be fucked to dig it up, just use google translate.)

>>165309113
>thanks memehacksucky

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>>165309241
>focusing on "ambitious projects" and PS4 hardware specific games (aka, PSVR)

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>>165307970
I personally don't feel like DeS really aged that terribly. And I'm saying that without having played it first, or even second.
Looking at the mechanics of these games, things like PvE combat, equip load, blocking and rolling, buffs, spells, and the multiplayer aspect have stayed pretty much the same since they were introduced in DeS. The majority of characters that appear in the following games even have their roots in it.
Sure these things have been expanded, but the basics are all there.

Obviously the series has improved when it comes to varieties of weapons and different movesets, having more builds available, and bosses being less silly and all over the place. Multiplayer also has covenants in later games too, which helps make things a little more interesting.

Despite that though, I ended up enjoying it a good deal and I can't attribute it to nostalgia since I didn't play it till after 1 and 2 and I can't attribute it to console shit since I play most games on PC.
Just personal opinion, though, plenty of people would agree with you and say it's aged.

>>165308856
One day I'll gather the autism needed to count the percentage of "trapped" pieces of loot in this game.
I'd be willing to bet it's a higher percentage than in 1, but I'd want to know by how much.

you lads saw the leaks?

>>165309986

The only trapped loot I can remember in one are the items guarded by the rotting dragon in the valley of the drakes and the painted world.

>>165310091

For what?

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>>165310091
no

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>>165310179
>Large Divine Ember

>>165310179
There's a lot of pieces of loot in the Catacombs that could be considered "trapped", considering that moving to pick it up will spawn skeletons around it.

>always forget how vital poise is in DaS1
>everytime I get invaded I get stunlocked and die in one combo

I mean, I would definitely lose anyway, but fuck is that a major reminder

>>165309721
Half those mechanics were around before DeS anyway.

What makes the games age is subtleties like control responsiveness, movement acceleration, graphics, etc. that all contribute to a sense of "clunkines". These are all things that get better across all video games with time as they become more sophisticated. DeS and DaS are both dog-shit ancient in terms of that kind of subtlety (worse than most of From Soft's PS2 games even). But DS2/DS3/BB have significantly improved in those ways.

It's little things like how in DaS your character basically instantly turns whenever you change direction, instead of having a progressive movement and animation to the turn, or how everything (rolling, attacking, etc.) is either "on" or "off" with no middle ground, all stagger animations are the same, there's only 3 different roll animations, etc. DS2 added a lot of wind-up animations, making movement speed progressive instead of completely based on benchmarks, and more subtlety to make it feel less arcade-y and more like you were actually controlling/moving along with the character. BB excels at this, along with DS3 as a result of sharing its engine.

In a way, that makes DeS seem incredibly dated, but like an arcade game, it's sort of dated enough that you really feel that mid-2000s RPG clunkiness. DeS and DaS is about on-par with the original Kingdom Hearts in terms of how smoothly or awkwardly user input is translated into action, and that's what dates it.

Both DaS and DeS have dramatically reduced complexity in basic movement compared to most other From Soft games, and that's probably due to Miyazaki. The games he touches usually have the least complex player feedback, despite being better in most other ways.

>>165310091
If it's not for DeS and Dragon's Dogma on PS4 I don't care.

>>165310945
>DaS is about on-par with the original Kingdom Hearts
> But DS2 ... significantly improved in those ways
You're full of shit here but somehow most of the rest of your post makes sense.

Anyone feel like getting a Sun medalian? im outside Lothric, The Younger

PC
password:dsg

>>165311282
Sure, I've got a minute. Be right there

A fucking invader helped me kill Soul of Cinder. I love this new feature

>>165311245
it's because you didn't read context.

KH1 to KH2 clunkiness is shockingly similar to DS1 to DS2 clunkiness. It has to do with adding animations between attacks, creating legitimate combos, adding wind-up and cooldown animation transitions, giving characters momentum when moving, tightening hitboxes, and making a shitton of mechanics progressive (% based) instead of analog (on/off).

You could say the same about comparing MGS3 and MGS4, though that's like comparing DeS with BB in how much of a leap was made.

>>165311461
just post when you have it down so i can tell you if i dont see it

>>165310945
>there's only 3 different roll animations
DS1 has four and all the other games in the series only have two. Have you even played these games?

>>165311668
Sign's down. Eira is the character's name

So where do I go after Gravelord Nito?

>>165311581
By legitimate combos I mean slight variations in animations, windup/cooldown, and stamina consumption done when chaining one attack into another. DaS just has you repeat the same 2 attacks over and over, but DS2 changes up your animations, wind up, cooldown, and consumption even when repeating the moveset, so that certain weapons have

I'm not comparing KH to DS on quality, just clunkiness. And when it comes to clunkiness in 3rd person melee RPGs, they're fairly similar.

If it's any consolation, something like FFXV (which takes a lot of inspiration from KH's mechanics) is super clunky compared to BB. Games that do this best are shit like Bayonetta, where everything flows subtlety and never feels analog or like they forgot to refine or add animations.

But this is all also because smoothness and refinement of combat is the number one priority in hack and slash games, but in RPGs it's not at all, because game experience isn't a dependent on it.

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R8 this fashoin

>>165311959
Seath's Party Palace

>>165311880
I'm not counting the ninja flip.

The dodges in DS2/3/BB vary progressively instead of just swapping one animation out for another. They might look the same but the fact that speeds, distance, and wind up times vary a lot more makes them different mechanically, that's my point.

DS1: Animation 1 or 2 or 3
DS2+: Animations 1, 1.001, 1.002... 1.998, 1.999,2

>>165312060
I already killed him.

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How do I get across here? It doesn't seem like a jump will make it.

>>165312101
Chaos Tentacle Dungeon or Edgeville

>>165312036
Let down by dumb swamp magic

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>yfw they announce DLC2 tomorrow as a Switch timed exclusive

>>165312036
>helmet on that dress

>>165312181
Kek Edgeville? Where's that? I already did Demon Ruins and Izalith.

>>165312036
fuckable/10

>>165311959
>Seath
>Nito
>Four Kings (new londo)
>Bed of Chaos (Quelaag's Domain / Demon ruins)

Then go back to the lordvessel.

>>165311937
thanks, dude

>>165312135

You can

>>165312135
See that small sliver of platform on the left? You need to try to hit that.

Pretty sure the reward isn't worth it though.

>>165312265
Oh shit, done all of those. Thanks man.

I'm sure ready to be the fuck out of Tomb of the Giants.

>>165310945
I'm aware of those mechanics being around for years, I think I just confused the whole 'dated' aspect with 'having archaic ideas in the gameplay'. Obviously that's not the issue.

I'll be honest, and it's completely personal opinion, but arcade-style animations or lack of fluidity detract so little from games for me that I rarely even give them a second thought.
But that shit dates games like crazy, so I don't know why I didn't assume that was the issue to begin with.

>>165312135
It's a fucking hard jump and I think the item in the chest is a consummable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9X2MsmQe5M&feature=youtu.be

12:00

The chest is just souls and crimson water. Not worth killing yourself over and over again for, unless you have the spare effigy's and want to be a completionist.

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>>165312192
I'm not eager to give from $15 more for another 2 hour item expansion.

>>165312229
Down from Firelink. Make sure you have Artorias' purity ring or you'll get fucked by D A R K N E S S.
Do the DLC before killing Sif for delicious angst.

>>165312310
>>165312319
>>165312434
Alright, I won't bother with it then. Thanks!

>>165312419
Going back and playing the PS1 armored core games after being used to the later PS2 titles is mind-blowingly frustrating, especially since they don't have analog support.

Playing For Answer after Verdict Day, too, is like stepping 15 years back in time with how clunky it is.

I get the same feeling with DeS/DaS. They brought AC1 back to the PS store because it feels so arcade-y that it's almost a novelty in how clunky it is now.

What are some good weapons for a faith build in III? Dex or Str, doesn't matter. I just want something that does high damage and is viable.

>>165312135

Jump and hope you won't get a babyjump.

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>>165312685
Viable for what?

>>165312753

PvP and PvE, but I put a priority over PvE

>>165312090
>a fourth unique roll tier with its own animation and different frames/distance/speed doesn't count because DS1 is bad game because I don't like it
>differences in roll distance (the only thing that changes with equip load outside of the breakpoints) each count as their own unique animation because the later games are good and I like them
Fuck outta here, man. You're completely full of shit.

>>165312685

Saint's Bidet with Darkmoon Blade.

What is the most satisfying move to land?

I fucking jizz myself every time I hit with DS2 Fume UGS's 2H L2.

>>165312937
Sacred Flame

I never played armored core are they comparable to zone of the enders?

>>165312848
>sees a post about small mechanical differences between the two games
>immediately gets triggered and starts making wild implications about hating DS1 and how it's not even about mechanics

I didn't count ninja flip because it's a different animation, not a variation on the basic roll. I'm not saying "DS1 is bad because it has fewer variety in its rolls" because that would be dumb. I'm just saying that DS1 rolls were clunky and analog because they were just static animations, while later games smoothed it out and made it more progressive. Because technology gets better with time.

>>165312937
DS3 Black Knight Great Axe 2H R2 when you fling someone into the air

>>165312685
Wolnir's. It was already pretty good after it got Faith scaling, I'm pretty sure the other greatsword buffs have been kind to it as well.

>>165312937
Propaned charged R2, or BKGA charged R2 SCOOPS HAGEN DAS

>>165312685
Lightning Astora Greatsword

>>165312752
>le ds2 is so complicated meme

Don't jump with less than half stamina you absolute fucking kike.

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>>165313017
>I never played armored core are they comparable to zone of the enders?

HAHAHAHAH

HAHA

ha

No, but try /acg/

>>165312135
>64 lifegem
Now I remember why people didn't like DS2

>>165312658
I never played anything older than AC3, so I can't personally relate. I would assume all the older games are a bit of a novelty at this point, though, regardless of how they control.

I think in the end this is just something that by all rights should feel very archaic to me, but I have never minded for whatever reason. I have no doubts that the PS1 AC games would get me to feel differently, though.

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>>165312937
flattening shit with a DS2 greathammer 2HR2

>>165313264
They really don't heal all that much

It's the Radiant ones you want, but good fucking luck finding those

Either way, they heal so slowly that it basically doesn't matter

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>>165312937
DSGA WA

>>165313214

I don't know what causes it... I've heard people saying camera angle and stamina but it seems to be random.

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She is literally asking me to ravage her asshole without any lube or enema with those words

>>165308856
thralls are a decent enemy.

>>165308920
Funny, I think that DaS3 shits all over DeS in pretty much everything except level design. In fact, I'd call DaS3 DeS 2.0 while BB is DaS1 2.0 .

>>165309721
DeS aged like milk and the framerate is absolute garbo and unacceptable in [current year]
I mean, people say shit about Bloodborne framerates but slowdows don't outright fucking kill the game unlike DeS.

It has a unique atmosphere, good consistency in level design and some of the music tracks are pure orgasm, but it suffers from technical issues, grass spam, shit armor variety, dumb mechanics like item burden that doesn't even meaningfully contribute to the game the way Stalker's item burden contributed to the stamina management, it's just a hard limit after which you can't carry more stuff lol and gender specific clothing.

>>165312937
I really enjoy hitting with Morne's WA

>>165313392
IIRC lifegems healed for about 500, which is 1/4 of a lategame character's HP
Early game that's half your health bar there, easily

>>165312937

Black Knight Greatsword fully charged 2HR2

>>165313506
It's stamina.

It's fucking stamina.

Just kidding, it's FUCKING STAMINA

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Has anyone ever seen the steel case elite knight image without the "Dark Souls" text on it? I gave up looking for it around the time Dark Souls 2 came out and I never got back to looking for it.

>>165313513
Thought the same thing. Imagining her masturbating to cucking the world out of an Age of Fire makes me think she's a cutie.

Shame she picked the game with Yuria in it to compete.

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>>165313304
>>165312658

Zone of the Enders plays like a gun-only Kingdom Hearts, with flight.
>press X or O to do everything, game decides which attack to use for you
>camera keeps track of your opponent
>swap between special overpowered weapons
>near infinite healing as long as you keep up the combos
>On rails story with single main whiny protagonist

Armored Core plays like a gun-only Dark Souls, with flight
>super awkward (but entirely customizable) controls until you get it right, then you're fucking God taking down impossible enemies
>all the lore is in the item descriptions
>complex armor/weapon customization, gameplay depends entirely on your stats and equipment
>can be easy or hard depending on what you use

ZoE 1 or 2 is piss-easy compared to most AC games. They're both great mech games, but for totally different reasons. Do not go into AC expecting it to play like ZoE.

The closest AC game to ZoE is Armored Core For Answer. It's also the simplest and easiest in the series, you can pretty much just hop in and blow up everything without really thinking.

Armored Core 3 is probably the best in the series for beginners. Armored Core Last Raven is the best if you want to git gud, as it's probably the intentionally hardest From game ever made.

>>165313687

I'm not saying you're wrong but two or so years ago when I last played DaS2 no one knew what caused it.

>>165313381
Gyrm Great Hammer.

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>AotA: We weren't planing on releasing dlc because we believe a game should be released in full content but we did it anyway. It was originally part of the main game but everything's pretty through and detailed.
>Lost Crowns: This was part of the game but we had a lot of fun with it so it expands on some parts of the lore and a bit of the main story. You didn't get the chance to find out small bits of confusing lore in the game so here's the opportunity to get a bigger story.
>The Old Hunters: We have a bigger budget this time and decided to put the last piece of Bloodborne so I really hope you guys enjoy it this time! We also added new transformations that weren't in the main game plus clues to all the mad shags that got you guys mind boggling so this should clear up how hunters came to be.
>AoA: The dlc this time is strictly unrelated with the main story which is done btw. We're only using this for testing grounds of things we got the chance to do so I hope you enjoy the scraps.

>>165314012
>This was part of the game but we had a lot of fun with it so it expands on some parts of the lore and a bit of the main story
It was the main game anon

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>>165312937
EGS spin slash

DaS stopped working for so I'm planning to reinstall it so my question is, do I need to back up my saves or are there in the steam cloud? If the former, where do i find them and under what extension?

Does Sir Vilhelm use any spells? I'm making a sl 80~ build to boss invade Friede. For great justice.

>>165314414

Vow of Silence and Great Heal

>>165314392

DS1 has Steamcloud

And for some reason the next two games don't

Just From Software things

>>165314475
Okay, I'll reinstall it then. Thanks, anon.

What's the difference between magic weapons and enchanted weapons, in DS1?

When the fuck are they going to announce DLC 2
Just get it over with so From can move onto games they actually care about making

>>165314012
I think it's more likely that 3 was made on pressure/contract obligation from Bamco than FROM wanting money.
Say what you want about Miyazaki, I don't think he actually wants to make sequels. If he did, he probably would've tried to direct 2.

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I like this game, guys

>>165314603
>Say what you want about Miyazaki, I don't think he actually wants to make sequels
I'm almost 100% sure I read it from an interview of him specifically saying just that. DS3 is proof that he's burnt out or absolutely appalled on the idea of churning out sequels.

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>>165314728
I quite enjoy all of the souls games, and most of what Fromsoftware has put out over the years.

>>165313891
>>165313221

That might be more my style then, ZoE was kinda boring for me, thanks

>>165314580

Enchanted has higher scaling but lower base damage. Magic is the opposite.

>>165314728
Most of us do. We're just disappointed that it wasn't the sequel we were promised or expecting.

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>>165314917
#1 is still the best to me. I can't explain the feeling, I just get the feeling when I play it.

>>165314580
Enchanted is just a more intense version of Magic. It puts even more scaling on Int than Str/Dex and gives it even more magic damage. It's only better if you are a pure mage with absolutely no str/dex

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>>165314997
Was it your first? If so, then there's your explanation.

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>Post yfw the first time getting to Anor Londo DS1

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Sleepy as fuck.

Thanks for joining.

>>165315028

Doesn't enchanted give physical damage based on int?

>>165315119
I played demon's souls first but I don't have the same commitment to it. I don't feel like if I played #2 or #3 first I would like it irrationally in the same way.

>>165315131
Thanks host

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>>165312937
>Golf-swinging the greatsword to knock Maldron the Assassin off Brume Tower

>>165315150
In DS2, not DS1.

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>>165314414
>>165314465
Also add the fact that he occasionally uses dark hand attack. Good luck anon
>>165314997
Personally I feel like almost every inch of each area was touched on so in a way it feels expansive or maybe the interconnected world makes me feel like, instead of moving a person via controller, I am the character I play as and the controller is the brain choosing in where I go or what I choose to do with my limbs. That sounded too creepy as I was typing this. S-sorry.

>>165314739
I had the same feeling with 3 the whole way through, though maybe for different reasons.
If you think about how 3 pans out, the overwhelming majority of people, places, and groups from other games are either dead, never mentioned, or falling apart. The things that people loved got fucked from beginning to end.
I honestly think it was intended to get veterans to feel like there is absolutely nothing left to save. That the only choice that makes sense is to let the world die.
I don't know if I'm thinking too hard about this or if it's too meta, but I genuinely believe the game is telling you to let it be finished. The Corvian guy in the DLC even says something to that effect.

>>165315129
I would love to, but this is a SFW board.

>>165315472
>255 everywhere

Not even subtle, kill yourself.

>>165315356
>Personally I feel like almost every inch of each area was touched on so in a way it feels expansive

Except for maybe Blighttown, Abyss, Tomb of Giants, and Demon Ruins.

DS1 does have the most egregious rip-offs of real life locations though, in a good way. I feel like DS1 is where Miyazaki dumped all of his best area ideas from movies/books/anime.

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>>165315472
>all those 0s and 255s
I don't even have to try to make this to know that this is a ruse.

>>165315129
I wasn't impressed. Some dumb sun effects don't even look very good compared to other earlier areas

I just finished my first Souls game (Demon's Souls) and it feels so fucking great!

What game should i play next?
Dark Souls 1, 2 or Bloodborne? (I dont have Dark Souls 3)

>>165315356
One final question on Vilhelm: what talisman is he using?

>>165315682
Is the face creator like DaS1 then where going to any extreme will permanently fuck up the face mesh you're working with?

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I just finished Dark Souls 3 with a natural playthrough
Its pretty good

I was going to start a new game with a new build and do the Usurping ending

Any ideas for a build?

I was thinking straight swords, high int and faith focusing on dark magic/pyromancies/miracles

Any ideas for starting class, armor, weapons or leveling?
What would a "Lord of Hollows" be like?

>>165315775
Play DaS, then DaS2, then i would encourage you to play DaS3 before Bloodborne

>>165315806
Yes.

>>165315775
Play DS1 > DS2 > DS3 > BB

Don't play BB before DS3 or it will make you disappointed in DS3.

>>165312937
Profaned R2 because the flames make me feel like I'm playing Bloodborne where they have the blue shine and a ding to indicate a fully charged attack

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>>165315818
>focusing on dark magic/miracles
Ok go ahead

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>>165315775
Continue onto Dark Souls 1, then 2. Worry about Bloodborne later, as it's a different beast. If you tried fitting Bloodborne in the middle of anything else it'd mess with your flow.

>get invaded in Iron Keep
>Guy is blasting spells like no tomorrow
>I've never even seen some of these

I don't know if I just haven't seen some legit spells, or if he was one of those hackers

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>Dark Souls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoP5NGLsWR0
>Dark Souls II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkg-BZI-WRA
>Bloodborne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f3j4okhb8o

>Dark Souls III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPn0KFlbqX8
What did they mean by this?

>>165315976
Probably hacker. Someone post Thor webm

>>165315976
He could have been swapping for hexes, but there's some high (65 int) level spells that are almost never used in PvP and are nowhere in the main game.

What's the best upgrade path for a longbow?

>>165316271
The marketing department doesn't know how to sell their game without resorting to pop songs and memes

>>165315850
>>165315907
>>165315964

Thanks Anons :)

i played a little of Bloodborne already and i defeated the Cleric Beast and Father Gasgoigne with help but the Blood Starved Beast rekt me everytime, the game is too fast for me right now.

Magic is good in Dark Souls 2?

>can't beat aldrich
>grind my ass off so I can become a pyro and buy Chaos Vestiges
>some how fuck up and realize I must have sold my Demon King soul
>Decide maybe I can dump stuff into a new weapon to switch things up
>upgrade a katana
>Still don't have any chunks so it's not better than my broadsword
>can't find chunks for some reason

>>165316426
I meant the huge leap between BB and DS3

When's the best time to take a walk in Oolacile?
After Dusk

Anyone here interested in co-oping Sen's Fortress?

>>165316271
They meant nothing. Bandai US chooses the music and makes the ads, not From.

>>165316536
Yes, what SL?
steamID for DSCM?

>>165316576
Currently 43, steam ID aramblingvoice.

Not looking to rush it, planning on exploring for all items, looking for a friendly to join in jolly cooperation!

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What's the point of being embered in DaS3?
In DaS2 you can be invaded hollow or not, and being hollowed also took a % of your total HP so one wanted to avoid that. In DaS you got a lot of bonuses for stacking humanity and being hollowed prevented the player from kindling a bonfire.
In DaS3 there's literally no downside for dying, no actual need to use embers (unless you are a faggot who needs summons). I'm missing something here?

>>165316428
>i played a little of Bloodborne already and i defeated the Cleric Beast and Father Gasgoigne with help but the Blood Starved Beast rekt me everytime

I pretty much just completed my first run.
Blood Starved Beast isn't even necessary to beat at that point of the game but you can do him if you insist.

I beat BSB as my second boss and it was kind of a pain honestly. Work on the timing of your gun parries and use rally as your primary tool of getting back health to save vials for the second phase.

>>165316796
>What's the point of being embered in DaS3?
You mean what's the point of being unembered. When you're not embered, you're missing 30% free HP.

>>165316773
I have the perfect co-opfu for you. My sign will be at the entrance.

>>165316796
30% hp

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Top 5 hardest Boss fights in the entire series? We'll even include Bloodborne for fun.

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>>165315129
I didn't even think it looked that amazing, but knowing full well what it was and the visual difference between it and the places you had been through to get there made me smile.
On the other hand, opening the door to Gywnevere and hearing that absurdly dramatic music made me grin like an idiot. The best kind of cheese.

>Orbeck leaves and dies if you buy all of his spells

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK WHY DOES EVERYONE DIE

>>165316428
>>165316831
>Interrupting BSB

Making shit way harder on yourselves than you need to.

>>165316796
>no downside to dying
-30% health when not embered

>>165315682
Fuck off jojo faggot.

>>165316921
Phalanx

>>165316536
>>165316773

Fug I'll put my sign down for you guys if you'd still like

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>How should I infuse my uchigatana?
Doing a dex build, I just got the giants coal
Currently have a sharp gem on it.

>>165317106
Infusions depend almost entirely on your stats. If you're a DEX build, sharp is almost always best.

>>165316921
For me it's
>lmao2cat
>Raime
>Beast-Possessed Soul
>Fume Knight
>Orphan of Kos

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>>165316536
>>165316773
I'm 1 SL out of range

>>165316937
Don't buy all of his spells and he won't, nerd.

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>>165317047

>>165317175
Thanks, are there any better dex weapons before Aldrich?

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Is there anyway to mess with your leveling in ds3 like the the soul vessel in ds2?

>>165317312
Yes, google the NPC Rosaria

>>165317238
There are very few weapons better for pure DEX than quality, but nearly anything that isn't a pure STR weapon like a club will do well sharp. Dagger, Whip, Chaos Blade, and Sellsword Twinblades come to mind.

>>165317223
Easily one of the most fun bosses in the game.
Then again, bosses were the only thing in that game.

>>165316921
1. Manus
2. Nameless King
3. Allant
4. Sir Alonne
5. reserved for BB.

>>165317436
>1. Manus

>>165316867
>>165316873
>>165316940

>start the game unembered
>deal with the tutorial without issues, get embered
>die sometime later
>30% of a little is a little
>almost no difference
>keep playing

I guess it might be useful in NG+, early game 30% HP is next to nothing, everything hits you for double of that amount.

>>165317395
Quality?

Sen's Fortress bros.... was getting a weird double rolling rock glitch... I'll summon you guys at entrance if you wanna keep on?

>>165317406
Gaius and Phalanx scared the shit out of me

>>165316271

Wasn't there a trailer for DS2 with Jethro Tool?

DS2 wins yet again

>>165317530
You don't really need to human in DeS amd 2 unless you want to free a rong slot either, but people do., it's a free boost after every boss kill even

>>165317536
STR/DEX hybrid build.

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>>165317312
How did they improve the visuals so little (not at all) from DeS?

Oh, yeah, Tanimura.

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>>165317575
>don't remember this
>look up the trailer
>player character is fatrolling everywhere

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>>165317742

>>165316271

To be fair, Faux Fix's "True Colours" sounds nothing like Cyndi Lauper, and I thought it was a good fit.

A much better fit than I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I DIED anyway.

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>>165317560
The one that scared me the most was Dirge.
Having him chase you down with only his eyes visible above the sands was creepy as fuck.
I can see why Gaius would be terrifying though, seeing how he rises out of the ground with that massive sword and everything.

>>165317575

There was also a DaS2 trailer with Nitzer Ebb.

with dark souls 2 dlc do I get the scholar version or the 3 crown dlc's? video games these days are so fucked up and convoluted

>>165317886
Only 10 of these look good

>>165316796
>unless you are a faggot who needs summons
If you have at least 12 Faith you can just use Seek Guidance and summon without needing an Ember.

>>165317979
Scholar on PC/PS4/XBO comes with the DLCs but also scrambles the main game in a big way. Changes enemy placements and adds a few characters/invaders

>>165317979
Scholar

>>165318056
>Allows you to see summoning signs, but you cannot summon White Soapstone phantoms unless you are in Ember Form.
So just NPCs?

>>165317436
>Sir Alonne
>Harder than Fume Knight Raime
Seriously?

>>165318150
To be fair, Sir Alonne is a lot faster than Fume Knight, has a grab that boosts his attack power, and also has the same "stop everything and use a stupidly powerful attack on the guy who's slowly chugging Estus" mechanic. He just doesn't hit nearly as hard, but they sorta cancel out.

He's also at the end of a pretty long gauntlet of bullshit that there's little way to skip outside of summoning phantoms to tank for you. At least with Fume Knight, there's a bonfire right outside his boss room and you can walk along the inner perimeter to avoid the flaming armpit enemies.

>>165318150
I would have to agree with Raime being easier.
Raime may hit like a truck and leave few places to heal, but his attacks are slow and telegraphed pretty clearly. He also has a massive blind spot directly behind him that is easily taken advantage of.
I would say Alonne gives even fewer opportunities to heal while being much faster and a little harder to gauge.

>>165318092
>>165318138
scholar it is

>>165317940
The thing with Gaius and Phalanx is that you feel so small in front of them

>>165318498
I also agree, but Alonne has the fatal flaw of largely being trivialized by a decent shield. Factoring in the boss run as well, he's definitely the harder boss by though anyway.

Anyone know of a good pyro PvE build that uses greatswords and medium armor? I want to play through NG+ as the soul of cinder

>>165315818
Go for anri sword luck hollow build

Dark Souls 2 is better on PS3 or PS4?

>>165318847
It's unplayable on PS3.

And there's no 'actual' SotFS edition, if that interests you.

>>165318847
pc
4

Is there any point to bleed in DS2? Comparing Flamberge + AWS to Claymore + SS, It seems like I would lose more than 200 damage per hit just to focus on bleed... so I can't think of any situation where bleeding the opponent does more damage than just going for the same moveset with no bleed.

>>165317742
C u t e !
I still can't believe that despite how dogshit the character creator is, some people are capable of making characters that don't look atrocious

>>165318739
That's definitely true, even in a game about colossi they completely dwarf you. I think only Malus is comparable in size.
Admittedly, it's been a while.

>>165318839
That actually sounds really cool. Any hard numbers for that?

>>165318847

PS4 runs better but you can't play the OG version, it's Softs instead.

>>165318747
That's true, while Fume Knight certainly doesn't allow for the shield option at all. I admit I didn't think about that.

Any spots where I can have a decent chance of being summoned as a Blue Phantom in III?

>>165319571
You can be summoned anywhere in the world, at any time. Doesn't matter where you are.
The problem lies in your level and how summoning as a blue actually works.
I've heard low levels have slightly better luck getting summoned.
I don't know the specifics behind how the game chooses which blues to summon, but I do know that some people have no trouble getting summoned and other people will never get summoned, ever. I've heard people say it's tied to account age, but I have no idea if that's true or not.

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>>165316921
My personal list that kicks my ass is
Dancer
Ocerios
Pontiff Sully
Artorias
Dragonslayer Armor

I suspect my problems stems from a deep rooted lack of patience. O+S is a close 6th but I think my NG+7 run got some discipline in my system.

>>165316921
in no particular order
2cat
freide (i havent fought her enough to learn anything yet)
nameless king
pontiff
manus

>>165320041
Is 30-40 low level enough? Or are we talking 20 and below? I also assume most people will have +3 weapon around SL 30.

>>165319571
depends on the day. I had the best luck on weekends as I just played the game.

Hey guys I just got a PS4 but all I have so far is Skyrim. Thinking about getting Dark Souls 3 or No Man's Sky. What do you recommend?

outside iron golem some1 summon me pls (ps3)

>>165320447
>Dancer
Only took me two tries with my main, who has this strength barbarian thing going on that wields a heavy Millwood Battle Axe +7 when i first encountered her

>Ocerios
Havnt been to him yet, im in the garden now

>Pontiff Sullyvahn
I have so much regret because i just ganked him. I feel like i missed out on one of the best boss fights in the game

>Artorias
Kicked my ass. One of my proudest moments when i finally defeated him though

>Dragonslayer Armor
Same thing with Dancer. I jest kept rolling and got hits in when i could. Worked out fine for me

>>165320872
You'll be disappointed either way.

If you haven't played Dark Souls 1 or 2, get Bloodborne instead. Get Dark Souls 3 after playing 1, maybe 2 (SOTFS) also.

>>165320872
dark souls 2,3,fetusborne, and witcher3 is p good

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>>165320872
>No Man's Sky

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>>165321119
this

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>>165321119
>>165321216
>>165320982
replying to obvious bait

>>165320773
You will probably still be ok at 30-40. After that is where there's less likely to be WoB users.
Even with that, though, the game may still end up never summoning you for whatever reason. It's how things are working at this point, unfortunately.

What's the best build for Demon's Greataxe for DaS1?

>guy gonna jump and try to plunge attack
>he didn't jump remotely far enough out, won't even be close
>just get smashed into the ground and lose half my life, the weapon came nowhere near making contact with me, watched it all happen

What the fuck is wrong with plunges in this game? I mean he was literally 3-4 body lengths away, and I still get hit by it.

>>165320872
Don't get no mans sky unless you dont mind mining then selling the mining then selling. I suggest bloodborne or ds3

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>>165315129
I was the farthest out of my friends so I felt pretty cool

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>>165315129

>>165321554
I'm not sure, but they are indeed supremely fucked in 3, even moreso than the others.

Take a katana, jump off a 2 foot ledge, and plunge in into the ground 20 feet away from someone standing still and they'll still take the hit as long as you are locked on them.

>>165321554
>bandits knife
>jump off the fallen tower in arena
>dude is literally like 2-3 body lengths away
>plunge attack lands, and he was standing there watching because he thought there was no way it would come close

This has happened more times than I can count. Plunges are so fucking shit in this game, its hilarious.

Its like my bandits knife just turned into a fucking washing pole to reach this nigga.

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>>165315129
>Time for pillaging!

>invading in farron keep
>been chasing host for a while now, he is clearly fucked
>begins just running past every mob to the fog gate
>hes got low health and probably out of estus, he'll be dead for sure if he tries to open that door and go through that fog
>is invincible when opening the door so I can't backstab him
>okay fine i expected that, he'd be retarded if he tries to go through the fog wall th-
>rolls straight through the fog wall without doing any special animation
what the fuck game
explain this
at least he's most likely dead anyways, but still

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>tfw can't find host
>couldn't find him after webm related

What happens if I pump over 40 for str or dex in a quality build?

>>165322234
Abyss Watchers don't have a fog wall if you encounter them the first time. Same for Vordt, Wolnir, Dancer, Princes, and Lord of Cinder. I sure I missed some others though.

>>165322234
I don't think there's a fog wall for the host the first time they enter the Abyss Watchers fight under any circumstances.
Phantoms (allied or not) will still see it, but it flat out doesn't exist for the host.
I think this is the case at Greatwood, too.

>4v1 in lothric
>They've got exploding DLC arrows
>I'm level 10

yeah you sure showed me

>>165322440
>>165322453
Man that is shit. How do you even counter something like that? He literally just ran past every single mob, like from the second bonfire to the third candle, then back through the back area with the basilisks, right around through the big door where he fought me for a little bit before deciding to run off again past the darkwraiths who aggro'd on him and everyone else. I was also just shy of catching up to him because of the fucking swamp and enemies in my way.

>>165322579
'Points Down'

>>165318980
Bleed fucking sucks in DaS2. Even if you go for a full bleed build (Shadow Gauntlets, Crest of Blood, +10 bleed-infused), the bleed damage you deal just doesn't make up for the raw damage you lose. Bleed isn't even all that impressive either, it's just flat HP damage along with a temporary stamina debuff (which doesn't work in PVE).

>>165322579
I've stopped bothering to invade in there or undead settlement as it's chocked filled with scaled down phantoms with crazy gear and hosts that are clearly cheating as they have tons more health and more estus flasks than the game would allow at that point, plus other consumable items they shouldn't even have access to yet

>>165322598
If a host is just sprinting through the level, the only things you can really do are try to find a way to cut them off (easier in some places than others) or annoy them with something ranged and pray it causes them to get fucked by a mob or make some kind of mistake.
Just sprinting after them almost never allows for a hit, since rolling will slow them down far less than your attacking will slow you down.

>>165323119
>1
Unfortunately the path to the fog door was fairly straight and my only option was a greatbow which at the time I felt was far too slow to get positioned and ready in time to shoot him before he was completely untouchable, no matter what kind of damage I would do.

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If we don't get a flail in DLC2 i'm going to PERSONALLY egg hackazakis house

>>165323278
Even if they did add one in, it would be whip-tier bad

>>165323278
Wouldn't it just be a whip but slower and with strike damage? Would it also have longer reach than a mace?

>>165315129
>>>/gif/9914894

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>>165322984
story time
>invading in settlement, near hodrick
>see host with a single phantom, whip out binoculars
>see the scaled down sign and items appearing on the ground
>open up ce and make myself invisible
>run behind them and make myself visible again
>kill the phantom with a hornet greatax bs
>grab everything i can (a couple +2 rings, twinswords, and yurias robes)
>give myself a stack of dung pies, drop them around the host then bc out
>get 2 friend requests a few minutes later

>>165323634
i refuse to believe you weren't instantly softbanned for that

>>165323446
No, the physics are different. Mechanically yes but with more damage and maybe some HA
It better have.
I'm really disappointed none of the whips has a disarm

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>Pontiff on Xbone

Just looking at him drops frames on my console.

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>>165323712
you can do a bunch of dumb shit and not get banned

>>165323737
>Console
I've maxed my settings and added shaders on top

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>>165323878
>splooge on your enemies
>demoralize them with sticky white goodness

>>165323712
They ban you for relatively harmless shit like spawning in slabs, but can't do fuckall about something like invisibility or godmode

>>165323878
Kek. Got more? Post more

>>165323960
>tfw initially played on a toaster pc because hey das2 sotfs ran 60fps on it max settings so I should be able to at LEAST run this 30fps on minimum
>no
>pontiff was silky smooth 15fps whenever I looked at him
>entire dragonslayer armor fight was 10fps
dragonslayer armor was the hardest fight in the game for me at the time, it was fucking horrible
I legit thought pontiff was impossible after failing miserably on my first attempt, then I killed him on my second right after
>>165324103
client side health was a mistake

post yfw

>make it to blighttown first time ever
>fall halfway through it missing 10+ items

not even mad fuck that place and 30fps

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>>165324175
no
xsplit started not saving my recordings a while ago, so most of the shit i was going to convert is gone
have a recording someone else made of me being a fat bastard as recompense

>>165324357
Just use the shortcut from firelink shrine next time

>>165324454
pretty noobie to ds1ptd. just making my way downtown

>>165308920
>DeS not coming to PS4
>PS4 gets never ever'd by sony

Is this cruel irony

>>165324507
Well, for reference, you can go downstairs in firelink shrine, take the elevator and when you reach new londo go right into another tower where you'll find a door you can unlock if you chose the master key as your starting gift. That doot unlocks a passage through valley of the drakes into the upper levels of blighttown.

>>165324624
yah nowhere near that lv yet. im having a tough ass time with this game, way harder than ds2 or ds3.

downstairs at firelink u mean through the catacombs ? havent ventured that way

>>165324818
No, there's a set of stairs that go down right next to the bonfire and if you follow them you'll find a platform that'll take you to new londo ruins

>>165324938
huh, ill check it out. what lv should i be at ?

holy shit just got raped by this guy using some flaming fists attack, what weapon is that?

>>165324974
Well, you won't be venturing into new londo yet so I think 40-50 is fine for blighttown iirc

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>>165325079
demon fists

>>165325134
whats with the demon fists anyway
i posted my build using them a few days ago and both the responses i got were that it was bad
i stuck with it and got to archives where i found out its entire wa is parriable thanks to to mage cunt that drops the crystal staff
whats with all the posts about it recently

>>165325107
coolio. could you give me a reference i could follow? im at lv 36 right now but i feel really weak, using claymore+2

just feel underpowered as hell compared to ds2/ds3

the last boss i killed was the dragon in the depths. thanks yo

>>165325134
oh i skipped smouldering lake

Is there any boss in any of these games that somehow goes from easy in NG to a challenge in NG+?

>>165325329
That claymore can carry though the entire game easily so don't be afraid to upgrade it. If you're already at blighttown you can go back to firelink shrine through a set of elevators to the right of the bonfire. A lot of people at that SL farm souls at darkroot forest if you bought artorias' crest. Be mindful that you might be invaded if you're human as it's a PVP hotspot.

>>165325625
Lost Sinner I guess

>>165325329
your weapon should be +4/+5, farm the balder knights in parish for shards or buy them from andre
if you havent gotten the large ember in the depths go back up and get it
once you get to the swamp in blighttown you can farm the leeches for large shards to get your weapon even stronger, you need 9 shards to go from +5 to +10
the leeches drop green shards too so you can make your claymore elemental if you want

>>165325107
>40-50
>blighttown
Top casual
>>165325329
Weapons in ds1 go up to +15 and you should really make it a point to upgrade as much as you can whenever you can. I usually enter blighttown with a +6. Also, once you reach the bottom, you should go human after touching the bonfire. Get some free humanities and a f*n str weapon

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Post your favorite side Character

>>165325657
>>165325763
>>165325793
cool thanks for the replies guys. really enjoying DSIPTD, moreso than my first playthroughs of 2 and 3. fuck its tough tho

>>165325803
he died like a bitch tho

>>165325857
kys

>>165325657
and yeah i used claymore through ds2 til ultra greatsword, same as ds3 lol. beautiful swords

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>>165325803

Would putting dark damage on my partizan be a stupid idea? I'm only at cathedral atm.

>>165325903
at least siegward kills yhorm, a fucking lord of cinder

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>>165325803
I feel so fucking bad about killing him just for his armor that I'm never going to wear

I played through all the games but not a single DLC. Am I missing out?

>>165326074
Yes, some of the most memorable bossfights in the series are mostly all in the DLC for each game

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>>165325803

>>165326129
Fuck I have to dig up my old xbox now

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post high scores

i don't even know what happened that let me kill this guy, he was lagging like a motherfucker and using sorcery on top of that

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Does this at least look passable or should I head over to old rosy for a makeover?

>>165325842
Dark souls isn't hard, it's punishing. The game always gives you the tools you need to overcome something before you face it. Almost all of your deaths are because you fucked up, except for the rare engine issue (less rare if you use dsfix to completely uncap the framerare) and one particular forced death. In case you haven't already, download dsfix, dsmfix if you want to use a mouse, dscm and PvP watchdog. Links in the pastebin.
Lastly, Google "dark souls beginner tips" and get the fuck out of here until you beat the final boss. When you do, come back and ask whatever you want.

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>>165326149

>>165325931
>>165325931
No one uses dark damage?

>>165326606
Jesus christ what are you even attempting with these stats, just a buffed straightsword?

>darkmoon bow

You're already a sorcerer, why? What's the point? Simple infusion is also completely worthless. Trust me, I've tried to give my mage 2 simple rapiers and the regen was still such trash that I could only cast one flashsword every 15 seconds. You also need 5-10 more INT if you want spells to do any significant damage, especially at 120 where everybody is a fucking super saiyan with endless stamina.

>>165327136
I have a tryhard sorcerer already. I wanted a swag sorcerer with gold stuff.

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>>165326267

I don't think it's possible to get higher than this as an invader.

>>165326773
stop being an elitest fag, literally hang yourself

>>165325931
>>165327012
I am going to assume das2, and if so, put dark damage infusion on it if you're going with a dark build otherwise just use Dark Resin.

If das3 no idea.

>>165327359
what part of that is elitist, you mong?

>>165327359
>using literally meaningless words like "elitist"
fuck off, plebbitor

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>>165326267
>>165327254
Nice try faglords

>>165327382
Why would you assume das2? Das3 is the newest one and I do mean that one.

OK so if I wanted to invade over and over in DS2, the only reliable way to do that would be to join the brotherhood of blood covenant and farm red eye orbs by winning duels correct?

>>165327641
Because no one uses dark builds on das3

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>>165327568

That's not even possible... What do you think his SL was?

>>165327681
Yup.

Have fun with chinese on vpns all over the arena now.

>>165327683
That's what I was asking; if dark was viable in das3. Apparently not. I want to stick fire on my partizan but I wasted the one fire gem I currently have access to on a shitty halberd I'm never touching again. Those workers in the undead settlement drop them? How insanely rare are they? I'm only at cathedral so I can't get lightning on my weapon anytime soon.

>>165327697
He probably used CE to set his SL to 1,000 or something instead of just putting his stats at 99 across the board.

>Make new character for Demon's Greataxe
>Rush forest and join cat
>Rush to blighttown via drake valley
>Accidentally slip and press R1 and aggrod shiva as I died
>Go back to wellwhatisitman to absolve sins
>Don't know how to get down to swamp safely via that path so I take a detour through depths
>Finally make it to swamp after multiple deaths
>Realize Shiva isn't even fucking there
>Now I need to go back to the forest and talk to him again
>Then I need to go back to the fucking swamp because no lordvessel

fuck FUCK

FUCKKKKKKKKKKK

>>165327449
>>165327463
GET OFF MY PRIVATE FORUM GENERAL UNTIL YOU BEAT THE LAST BOSS ECKS DE

Anyone else think the Sandworm should've been an actual boss?

>>165327849
Going into the game blind results in a much better experience compared to getting your hand held through it all.

>>165327797
I mean if you go deep infusion as a crutch for now its probably not horrible, but if i had to wager, none scaling infusions are shit on spears.

Now that I reflect on it, I think maybe dark builds arent used in Das 3 because it requires too much that investment, which wasnt a problem in 2.

>>165327849
are you retarded? do you want him to get spoiled? the point is to experience the world on your own. how autistic are you?

>>165327849
Fuck off from my private property (this thread) or you will get shot. this is the final warning

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>>165327881
No, then I wouldn't be able to hide behind a rock and spam arrows like a pleb.

>>165327960
What should I be putting on here? Lightning?

>>165328015
>killing it yourself
>not just letting the giant avelyn kill it for you

>>165328036
Whatever your highest stat helps it i guess.

Or no infusion, you really dont need that much damage on your ng run.

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Thoughts on this build I'm close to completing?

>>165323878
IT'S TREASON THEN

>>165328625
>SL 120
>1k hp unembered
>25 fucking end
>LIGHTNING CLUTCH

I swear to god I've never seen a unique 120 build that was even remotely viable.

What just happened?

>first playthrough of Das3
>Road of Sacrifices swamp
>suddenly a phantom called "host of embers", looks like a regular player
>didn't see any invasion message (but was tabbed out checking the wiki so might have missed it)
>two blue sentinels show up
>we kill the giant crabs and Crystal Sage
>afterwards it says something like "dark spirit was sent back to its world"

So I did some research and apparently there is the untrue dark ring that lets you appear like a regular player when you invade and I'm in the way of the blue covenant so it makes sense blue phantoms showed up. But why was the invader apparently friendly? Or was he just playing it cool when the blue phantoms came hoping they didn't know about the ring either?

>>165328625
>>165328803
Forgot to add
>divine pillars of pleasebackstabme
>sacred fucking oath
The simple caestus really completes the picture.

>>165328875

There's a glitch that allows you to do invsions like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGZ7zPPbiOA

>>165328625
knight would save you 3 points
SO and DPoL suck unless you want them just to look cool. i'd recommend getting DMB (or LB if you're strictly lightning) or just remove those 3 att slots completely and get more hp
get faith to 60 or 40 and replace clutch with morne's
lastly, DSS is a dex weapon, not fai

>>165329049
Should I drops five levels from faith and an attunement slot for more dex or hp?

>>165329207
here's what i'd suggest. not fully optimized but true to the heart of the build. dmb is better btw.
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/134494
that or ditch dss completely, keep raw ass or dsa at base stats, buff with lightning at 60 faith and maybe add a lightning storm

>>165312090
what changes occur progressively to rolls in BB?

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So Anri summons me to help with Aldrich, but can I summon anyone to help when I need to fight him?

Haven't played in a while, what's the current tryhard meta?

Anyone else ever experienced this bug with Dark Souls 3 where sometimes pressing A to advance an NPC conversation will make your character attack?

>>165332215
sup, ribbit

>>165328875
>first playthrough of Das3
>but was tabbed out checking the wiki
KILL
YOURSELF
STOP RUINING THE GAME FOR YOURSELF