/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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Is the Black K***ht Greatsword the best fucking UGS in the game or what

>>165359002
No, the vertical R1 attacks on ultra greatswords are dogshit.

The only reason people put up with that is because of the combo

REPOST

Hello people of /dsg/.
I just started DaS2 and I was wondering what build I should go?

I finished DeS and DaS on a melee build, DeS was sword & shield while DaS was a single sword.

I thought of spicing it up a bit and adding some magic.

What are some good Melee / Magic builds in DaS2

>>165359002
Best UGS is the Farron greatsword because you can actually hit people with it.

>>165359462
*gets parried*
whoops

>>165359549
>what is free aiming
>what are cross ups

>>165359369
Ds2 doesn't have builds, level everything you want because matchmaking is based on how many souls you've ever had, regardless of if you used them or not. A level 500 can invade a 100 if they've had a number of souls in the same window, and that window is very large.

>>165359549
Farron Greatsword is one of the hardest weapons to parry Anon. If you get parried with it you're bad.

Its problem is the lack of good hyper armor.

>>165359549
By that logic not a single straight or curved sword is good. Lots of shit can be parried against a competent player, but at least fgs is fast enough to hit and you can jump attack parry spam. No good player gets hit by a normal ugs.

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>>165359462
>being too fucking shit to hit people with ultra weapons
You think you're clever and a "fast paced player" when you say things like
>Greathammers are just too slow to hit anything with.

But in reality you just admit that you're reaaaallllly terrible at spacing and prediction.
Which is fine, everyone has their own playstyle, but don't pretend like only fast attacks can hit things in PvP. YOU can only hit things using fast attacks. That's you.

>>165359369
powerstance blue flame

>>165358939
Leaning forward after attack is one thing, but can you imagine people constantly crouching while circling around each other? That would look comical, smurfs' battle ring.

Not very related, but one of the worst things in souls combat is that your speed going backwards is the same as going forward, which makes backpedaling to make opponent whiff a viable tactic, even though it's completely retarded. And there is no way to fix it, people would just play unlocked like they do in DaS2.
>>165359116
What are you talking about? Vertical UGS attack is the better one. Better range, better speed, better recovery. It's like a super halberd. Of course no AOE, but why would that matter if people would just roll through your attack anyways? Or are you talking about PvE?

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Why is FUGS slower in Dark Souls 3?
Why doesn't it deflect attacks? It's the entire point of the weapon.
Why does VIT give far less returns in Dark Souls 3 than in 2 when armor and weapons are generally heavier and rings give less equip load?
Why does full havel's poise switch between getting staggered by the weakest tiny crab to tanking ultras just based on the frames of your swing?
Why is 40/40 Refined able to do everything better than other builds while requiring less stat points?
Why can you hit enemies beyond the range of your weapon model?
Why is estus so fast and nigh unpunishable?
Why are the covenant rewards so bad?
Why does investing 60 faith or 60 intelligence in a buff get you only 230 AR, when the game already has items that completely dispel your buffs?

Why did they go backwards in so many ways, like making buffs flat damage instead of based on the weapon's AR?
Why didn't this game learn from Dark Souls 2 and improve upon it?

>>165359772
It shits hyper armor at high poise.

>>165359940
Memehackzaki bro :^)

>>165359369
OK me again, did a bit of research and this is what I ended up with.
Just keep in mind I'm not trying to be super competitive or finish the game on NG+ or anything, just have fun.

Hexes - while it seems to fit, I just don't feel a good connection to it, seems a tad boring and everything requires souls.
Pyro - Almost everything is just pure spells, almost nothing to do with Melee / no synergy.
Sorc - Looks like the best fit, tons of weapon buffs and all the homing skills / Soulmass being great when you cast and switch to melee.
Miracles - Again, looks great, a bit more defensive than Sorc more like a Paladin build(?) where you can heal yourself and buff up and go apeshit in melee.

Did I hit the mark? anyone tried out a certain build and give me some insight?

Also I started off as a Cleric, should I start over if I want to play as a Sorcerer?

>>165359940

Because DS3 is shit

Ace work on Oceiros, thank you.

You're going through High Wall and this guy slaps your phantom's ass.
What do you do?

>>165359940
Superior a-team design

I hated Bloodborne (the DLC was neat but still) and I had a feeling that they would ruin DS3 with Bloodborne design aspects. Sure enough, they did.

>>165360131
Remember to punch the wall behind the chest in the middle Bad***

>>165360270
Man, never felt that filtered name was more apt than when I fucked up with the resin.

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>>165360192
Forgot picture

HURR GANK SQUAD BOSSES HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>165355361
Hollow or quality

what >>165355503 says holds true for pvp, but against bosses the extra bleed is noticeable

in pvp people will usually bleed in the same number of hits regardless of infusion, so you're better off with the AR from quality, but hitrounding isn't as big a deal against bosses and their larger healthbars means bleed has got a larger total to divide hp off of

but going back to pvp, you really do get more damage from quality. you can compare 40/60 refined builds to 40/40/30(+10) hollow builds, and refined will usually come out on top while letting you bless your offhand for hp regen. You can also compare 40/40 to 26/40/[as much luck as you can get] and you'll also tend to get more AR from refined

>>165359369
you can respec in 2 so it isn't as big an issue

also matchmaking is sm based instead of sl based

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>>165359940
>Why does full havel's poise switch between getting staggered by the weakest tiny crab to tanking ultras just based on the frames of your swing?

Because poise was actually improved. Making you able to poise attacks while not swinging a heavy weapon is bad design. Just imagine Havels with Curved Swords and the like. Poise was an unbalanced mess in Dark Souls 1, and really shitty in 2. I'd say its in its perfect state in 3, except I'd rather not have it at all and go back to pure hyper armor like in DeS.

>>165360385
>parries the charge
nothin personnel

>>165359883
No anon, I'm not speaking from the perspective of the ultra user. I just don't get hit by ultras, all you have to do is dodge around them until you out-stamina them then hit them when they try to back off for a recovery, which is easy enough to predict because they can only swing so many times. The only time l ever get hit by ultras is in a gank, and that's only because I was already staggered by another person.

>>165358801
has anyone seen this yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odt3HsASnV4

he even rolls.

>>165360605
I would slap your shit so hard in a duel for speaking such nonsense.

>>165359671
>>165359369
>DS2 doesn't have builds because of soul memory
Don't listen to this idiot.

Dark Souls 2 matchmaking is always within ~10% of your current soul level if all you do is level up. Every time you buy something or lose your souls, you fall behind players who only leveled up. You need to spend/lose >500,000 souls in a single play-though for it to make any noticeable difference.

Don't die and lose your souls, don't spend souls on items you aren't going to use, simple as that.

The window is not very large. The only way a Soul Level 500 character can invade a Soul Level 100 character is if the Soul Level 100 character lost >250x the number of souls they spent on leveling up, which is not even possible to do without being on NG+7 and having most weapons in the game completely upgraded.

And even then, he's asking about PvE, not PvP.

>>165359940
Why didn't DaS 2 learn from 1 and improve on it?
Why didn't DaS 1 learn from DeS and improve on it?

Because they don't care about what most players see as improvements and it's time you guys realised that most stuff you like is something they did accidentaly

>>165360605
>all you have to do is dodge around them until you out-stamina them then hit them when they try to back off for a recovery,
wow. All you need to do is to play against bad players and then you win. Amazing...

Are you on PC and have a character at ~Sl120?

>>165360498
>what is free aiming

>>165359940
Two options, I think.
Either FROM is fucking sick of this franchise and resented the fact that they had to make this game, which resulted in little effort and care,
or someone upstairs is incredibly adamant about doing things "their way".
>>165360204
>a-team
Do people still ignore the fact that the first Dark Souls was made by a very different group than the third one? Really?

>>165360729
>Being able to use weapons in both hands.
>Accidentally.
>Accidentally got rid off it in DaS3.

>>165359940
>Why didn't this game learn from Dark Souls 2 and improve upon it?

Because when Dark Souls 2 came out literally everyone shit on it, there were 0 people defending the game and its mechanics. From saw that and dropped it like a hot potato, returning to the mechanics of the most loved game in the franchise. It makes sense.

Also I prefer the Dark Souls 3 poise system, and I'd take the fast Estus any day over the Lifegem system, which was terrible and ruined the game's resource management and the feel of exploration.

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>>165360729
>>165360850

See image.

>>165359462
>>165359772
>hardest weapons to parry
you can parry the r1s on reaction

literally just stand still and wait for them to do something, it's the worst ugs

>>165359883
Prediction relies on the opponent being predicted first and the predictor second. It's necessary to use but exclusive reliance on it/winning with really weapons in general only indicates that your opponent was retarded. If you were narrowing options down as you went because you could understand flow and action progression that's one thing, but "I guessed he'd go left instead of taking a safer option," isn't really skill.

Please help.
I'm stupid.
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/134627

>>165361147
I don't know mate. People in /dsg/ fightclubs are unironically pretty decent mostly and I always win lots of fights with ultras.

I don't know what kind of people you're fighting but if it can compete in fightclubs it's viable, and no amount of your theorycrafting will change it.

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>got invaded in Horsefuck Valley
>Seed of Giant
>mfw

>>165361061
what is this bullshit? I like demon's souls, dark souls, bloodborne, and dark souls 3.

>>165360873
By this I mean how they thought dual wielding was no big deal. A lot of players liked it, but to from, it wasn't that important of a mechanic.
Also new engine is a significant factor.

>>165361061
That poster is right but here's the thing, we're not Fromsoft general, we're dark/demon's general, there's no issue discussing the company or anything else, but it's perfectly acceptable to be here and not like 1 or 2 games of the series

>>165360385
>twinking
Way to go showing you have absolutely no skill and need to pick on new players. Neat cosplay though. Also, champions charge is one of the most broken weapon arts in the game.

>>165360734
Nope. Ps4 and pure invader here, highest I've ever leveled was 75 for a pyro, 60 for everyone else, with weapons at +4/3. But the situation I'm talking about is in the duel arena against a variety of players, some bad some not. I'm not saying ultras LITERALLY can't hit, but they are straight up hard-countered by a regen shield/ring, and stamina management, and they're soft countered by just the latter.

Fyi, I love ultra weapons and have success with them, but that doesn't change how easy they are to out-maneuver.

>tfw still die a bunch to Abyss Watchers on every playthrough
Why am I so fucking bad at this game

>>165361340
It's hardly twinking in phantomsouls 3, anon.

>>165359116

Just learn to aim them, nerd

The only bad thing about vertical UGS is that they're shit for crowd control but then you just switch to 1H

>>165361215
Oops fucked that up.
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/134627
I don't know if this is a good idea or not.

>das2
>lost 10k souls

fUCK

>>165361340
>It takes no skill to beat the content I'm desperately struggling with at a level 1/3rd of mine!!!
ok faget

>>165361564
idk, every time i invade at high wall it's absolute noobs that spam r1
Kill them easily with unupgraded weapons and no rings, no idea how you see a challenge in full gear

>>165361905
That's nothing. Even for SM, unless you were doing twink.

>>165360385

I equip a dagger or a short sword and you can't do literally anything but spam charge

>>165360080

Hexes
>few enemies are weak to it
>few enemies are resistant to it
>decent melee buffs/infusions
>best spell damage output
>high versatility of offensive and defensive
>highest stat/soul memory investment (50-70)
>best at mid-early game, and ng+

Sorceries
>many enemies are weak to it
>many enemies are resistant to it
>decent melee buffs/infusions (can also do enchanted path)
>second best spell damage output
>primarily offensive
>moderate stat/soul memory investment (40-50)

>best at mid game

Faith
>many enemies are weak to it
>few enemies are resistant to it
>best melee buffs/infusions
>worst spell damage output
>primarily defensive
>low stat/soul memory investment (30-40)
>best at early game and late game

Pyromancy
>few enemies are weak to it
>many enemies are resistant to it
>decent melee buffs/infusions (but hardest to acquire)
>decent spell damage output
>high versatility of offensive and defensive
>lowest stat/soul memory investment (10-40)
>best at early and mid-early game

>>165361951
what?

>>165361046
>Dark Souls 2 came out literally everyone shit on it,
And yet it has a highest score on metacritic. So who is this everyone? Don't tell me "the fans", because FROM doesn't give a fuck about them.

>Earthseeker WA gives you no perserverance, despite being a faith weapon
>but the Quakestone Hammer does despite being literally a stone on a stick

>>165362426
yeah what the fuck?

more like dark souls 2 came out, it was one of the finest RPGs released recently, nothing could touch it, and then SOTFS came about and made it ten times better

>>165361236
>People in /dsg/ fightclubs are unironically pretty decent mostly and I always win lots of fights with ultras.
>I can win fights with ultrasound in rooms where people with meta weapons aren't summoned.
Banned: (you)

>>165362605
>>I can win fights with ultrasound in rooms where people with meta weapons aren't summoned.
...are you implying that people in the arena pose a bigger threat than people who will engage in passworded fightclubs?

l m a o

>>165362476
>bkgs and rhh perseverance have no stamina cost
>greathammer/hammers do
>onikiri WA has stagger and HA
>wolnirs holy sword WA doesn't even have HA
Quite a few things in this game just don't make sense.

>>165362605
>ultrasound
ultras*

>>165362703
>my password matched fightclubs are the only password matched fightclubs

Any compelling reason to do Smoldering Lake in DS3? Seems wholly optional.

>>165361319
>>165361310
>I like all the games

then that post is not about you.

It's about people who complain about how a game "changed" things and is now worse than its predecessor because of it, and pointing fun at how From Soft has been doing that for 15 years and they're just now noticing.

>>165362426
Every forum, stream chat, etc. Wherever you went, the game was hated. No idea why the Metracritic reviews were positive, I guess that's mostly from people who were new to the series. You can argue that people who complained were a vocal minority, but if that's the case then it was loud enough that it drowned literally everyone else.

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>>165362275
>forgetting to mention faith's strongest offensive area

>>165361236
>praises prediction based gameplay
>simultaneously implies theorycrafting is bad

>>165362791
two undead bone shards and an estus shard, along with a bunch of upgrade materials an other good shit?

>>165362791
It's a paradise for Pyromancers
Also, you have to go down there for Anri's and Yuria's questlines

>>165362791
Lots of pretty good loot.

>>165362703

When it comes to UGS, in the Arena, people will never engage. They'll just keep whiff punishing you all day. In fightclubs, people actually go in and fight. Not sure how you can ever win in Arena with a UGS.

>>165362791
good pyromancer stuff, and lots of large titanite shards, and a good number of estus upgrades. Also, good amount of souls from the boss. And a gesture and new armor set purchasable from the shrine handmaiden. Also a good offensive miracle. Staff for dark characters too.

>>165361904
You want to be a cunt throwing out fireballs or a cunt spamming weapon art on the whip?

>>165362786
So what's your point? I win in the arena using them, I win in invasions using them, I win against ganks using them, I win in fightclubs using them.

By what measure does a weapon have to be viable in your eyes that this does not meet?

I'm so tired of you
>if a weapon doesn't meet my personal requirements it's trash
faggots

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>>165362586
SOTFS is inferior to vanilla Dark Souls 2. All the changes are awful. Especially Heide, the extra petrified hollows, Iron Keep...

And yet they didn't fix any of the real problems the game had, like the elevator to Iron Keep, pile of rubble near Shrine of Winter, improving some of the awful animations, or dealing with some of the most broken hitbox enemies like the Gutter Dogs.

Are Pontiff's, SoC's and Friede's attacks designed to rollcatch panic rollers?

>>165361319
>but it's perfectly acceptable to be here and not like 1 or 2 games of the series

Agreed, but it's dumb as fuck to think that From Soft is stupid for not copying prior games and instead choosing to change things up, just because you liked one of the older games.

>>165363227
Yes, and they do a fine job at it too.

>>165363142
Literally just 1v1 me in the arena. I'll beat you with a greathammer or greataxe, your choice.
which platform are you on? If it's not PC, we can't duel, but then I would understand why you're saying these things so it's fine.

>>165362909
>implying you couldn't do that on a 10/10 build using firestorm, and not have to spend all the souls on leveling up fth/int

Soul appease is pretty badass in certain places though.

>>165363374
>SEE ME

I mean, what are you even going to do against someone only whiff punishing with a great axe?

>>165363158
>asks what the requirements for a non-trash weapon are
>immediately afterward says they're tired of people claiming that weapons which don't meet certain requirements are trash
why are you even responding to me

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>>165363412
>Soul appease is pretty badass in certain places though.

It is. For some reason it works on rats too.

>>165361904
It's not anon.
Dex cap for spell speed is 50, your vestiges will be very slow.
Steel protection is nerfed in PvP.
20 end could be improved on
Only one spell isn't making good use of that 40/40
You can drop 2 vit points and not be over the max weight
Spider shield is very bad, unless going for looks, pick etheral oak

>>165363205
>m'hollow

Some of the changes are questionable.
Some of them are good.

None of them are hands-down absolutely 'bad'. The worst is moving the bastille key to make lost bastille entirely explorable without going through the bell area. But even then, it makes sense -why- they did it (let players have more choice in where to go and make optional areas -actually- optional), I just disagree that it was worth losing the bell covenant activity for.

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>>165363205
>And yet they didn't fix any of the real problems the game had, like the elevator to Iron Keep, pile of rubble near Shrine of Winter, improving some of the awful animations, or dealing with some of the most broken hitbox enemies like the Gutter Dogs.

Or restore the pre-release lighting system. There's no excuse for this since SOTFS brought the game to PS4 and Xbone.

>>165363498
I'm offering to show you. Do you want to theorycraft or do you want to actually fight and be proven wrong or right?

>>165363573
I like the ratbosses in ds2, bosses inflicting status effects is always pretty neat and adds to the difficulty. Kinda sad rats in ds3 don't inflict poison anymore.

>>165363205
>they moved one of the archers in the first half of Iron Keep so you can fight the Alonne Knights without being constantly sniped in the back
>this is somehow a bad thing because it's 2017 and people are still not used to Alonne Knight aggro ranges, despite them being 100% consistent to the point where you can easily fight them one at a time if you don't just YOLO into the room

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>>165363205
>aldia keep dragon in sotfs doesn't attack you immediately, only when you kill 4 manually summoned red phantoms with broken animation cancels

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It's a shame Cornyx did so little in DaS3. Irina has her whole little questline with two seperate endings and the Morne incident, and Orbeck gives you gifts and warms to you over the course of the game, but Cornyx just sits there next to his really ill dog.

He has a good amount of unique dialogue (not only does he something when you give him a pyromancy tome, but what he says when you talk to him changes after every one), but it's a shame he never gets up and fucks off somewhere or tells you more about himself or anything like that.

It's also a shame that Irina has no unique dialogue for any divine tomes.

>>165362426
It has the highest metacritic score because all the dumb video game writers got on the dark souls bandwagon 6 months before dark souls 2 came out, and they had no sense of how to judge it qualitatively. These are the people who hated demon's souls because it was "unfair".

>>165363710

Well you don't need to fight me. Just post some Arena play. There's plenty of lame players there. Better yet, show me with a greathammer.

>>165363771
>Kinda sad rats in ds3 don't inflict poison anymore.
thank fucking god given how obnoxious ds3 rats are
>ng+7 fuckers
>enough HP to survive one swing of a greatsword sometimes
aaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>165360729

>Why didn't DaS 2 learn from 1 and improve on it?
>Why didn't DaS 1 learn from DeS and improve on it?
They both did, in many and vast ways

It's DaS3 that regresses

>>165363907
I'm not in the mood to record things when we could just fight and I show you.

Plenty of webms around of people winning arena fights with ultras, if that's what you want.

>>165363618
On my first playthrough, finding and defeating the Heide Knight in the Forest was a very memorable experience. In SOTFS they ignored their lore (the fact that they wander the lands after the destruction of their homeland) and put them all on Heide, and made them all aggro when you kill Dragonrider, which makes the area unfun. They also replaced the Heide Knight in the forest with like 15 copy pasted sleeping hollows

Heide also has a wyvern on it now, further lessening the impact of Guardian Dragon and the ones encountered in the Aerie. Talking about the Aerie, they made it completely skippable right from the start, one of the only areas in Dark Souls 2 which had 10/10 atmosphere.

The extra petrified hollows are really annoying and gate certain areas of content behind the shitty Fragrant Branch system which I never liked, but it wasn't that bad on vanilla Dark Souls 2.

>Finished everything from SotFS aside from the final bosses and 2cat
>Done about 4 playthroughs of DaS3, including one NG+7 run on my melee character


I haven't played it in years, thinking of heading back into Dark Souls 1.
I played Faith/Melee in SotFS and Melee in DaS 3 with my main character and Pyro with a side character.

Any suggestions of builds I should try in DaS, or perhaps fun builds in another game?

Half the reason I'm going back in is because I saw an LP that revealed an area I didn't know about so I began to think that I don't know the game half as well as I should

How does the Ethereal Oak's HP regen compare to a Blessed +10 shield?

>>165363868
>only noticed until recently the dead crows cornyx has next to him
Filthy swampfolk, those pyormancers.

>>165363907
I would actually take a greatclub over a UGS. He R2s let you form things that are somewhat closer to actual contingency plans via covering multiple options and recognizing game flow than "hurr I guessed he'd fuck up".

>>165362282
If he's wearing end-game gear at his level, he's earned the right to invade your ass with that gear.

>>165363771
Doing Rat Vanguard as your second boss when you're underprepared is one of the scariest experiences in the whole damn series
>basically no estus, just lifegem and pray
>constantly running away and trying to keep that Petrify meter low while more and more pile in
>jesus christ one hit from the boss did 90% poison buildup, no moss this early

>>165364284
Or he could just CE/mule it.

>>165364213
It's the same 2 HP /sec as Sun Princess, so it's better

Only downside is the stability

>>165362791
Chaos flame vestiges, estus shard and bone shard.

>>165363680
>like the elevator to iron keep

Because that's not a 'real' problem to From. Worst thing it does is maybe break your immersion slightly after you think about it for a few minutes. It doesn't actually change how you play the game though, and there were far more important things (to them) like fixing the gutter skip or watchdragon parma's effect or adding NG+ content or making pvp areas optional that they fixed instead.

Also, I think they were limited to tweaking the assets already in the game, rather than creating new ones, which fixing the elevator would have required.

>>165364213
its brokenly good, like most dlc weapons.

>>165364430
All PC players are shitfuckers (they only popularized the term "artificial difficulty" when DaS was ported to PC), so if he does CE it, you DESERVE to get raped by him.

If he muled it, then why don't you mule some defense?

>>165364501
>make elevator go down instead of up
wew too much work

>>165364000
That's because DS3 learned from bloodborne, not DS2. It didn't regress, it shifted to a new market.

>>165364501
making pvp areas even more optional is an absolutely retarded decision because luna was one of a few reasons to play ds2
now there's literally zero good loot there, not even a fucking key, and a broken npc phantom on top of it, zone is fucking ruined

>>165363374
>all the bads are on console, pc only has gooders

LOL

is the sword master worth summoning for the champion Gundyr fight or will he just get fucked once i breach the fog gate?

>>165364213
same overall healing, different ticks
it's still a godly shield, mind you, probably the best WA tool in the game if you aren't a turtlefag

>>165364736
the bleed from his katana is pretty useful, he can also draw aggro from Gundyr

>>165364618
Aside from making the gameplay faster, what would people say was lifted from Bloodborne?
Even at that, the speed of 3 is not too much faster than Demon's Souls, bosses excluded.

>>165364213
>>165364809
note that you'll always get the same amount whether or not it's upgraded, making it godly for twinking

>>165364884

I spent all of last night playing Demon's Souls, you are wrong.

>>165363907
Just fight him, if he posted webms you'd probably say they were just bad players.

>>165364707
>I can just talk shit and no one can prove me wrong because I play on less popular platform

Whats are cool idea for a monk build? I was thinking blessed caestus, but can't think of cool clothing.

>ugs with offhanded greatknife unironically better than farron gs
Fuck this gay earth

>>165365171
Master's set with baggiest pants you can find.

>>165364130
>I had a memorable experience, they changed it now, it sucks

Heide knights were added to give the level a purpose after you beat dragon rider but haven't beaten dragonslayer yet. They also added a mechanic to a level that was otherwise easy to just rush all the way through.

The wyvern was added to prevent new players from immediately rushing toward the dragonslayer right after the dragonrider, just like the skeletons/ghosts in DS to keep you out of the catacombs until later. I imagine they were struggling to figure out what boss to put there, since it had to be some flying boss (or else it would fall down once aggro'd).

The petrified hollows and more branches makes gameplay less restrictive on path but adds consequences to which paths you take.

I'm not saying SOTFS's decisions were all great, but none of them were objectively worse or without good reasons behind them.

>>165364884
>what would people say was lifted from Bloodborne?
Heal speed
>which they fucked up by not including heal parries
Speed of enemies
>which they fucked up by not making the player as agile, especially when it comes to heavy weapons
Focus of enemy and boss design on roll catching
Focus of evasion over blocking or armor
>which they fucked up by making the player's rolls too good, bloodborne's dodges were far weaker and more vulnerable
Louder and more repulsive enemy design
>which is out of place in this non-horror setting

>>165365171
Blessed caestus do really bad damage. You're better off with Refined.

>>165364826
i tried it. he got double penitrated within 2 min. he actually isnt so bad once you get his hitboxes down, so ill just go solo for now

>>165365402
parry

>>165364605
That still requires changing the in-game area and models, which nothing in SOTFS does. It was a purely mechanical set of changes.

And even then, people would be complaining how you went up a mountain only to go straight down an elevator and still end up outside.

What's a weapon you can get super early on that'll break the PvE in half, in DaS2 or DaS3?
Something like the Black Knight weapons in DaS1.

>>165365313
Nigga you wot? Quickstep was much faster and chained directly into itself compared to ds3 fast roll. Enemies are fasyer compared to other souls games but not to the level of bloodborne enemies, which is the only reason youmight think dashing was worse than ds3 roll.

>>165365518
>Windmill is on the edge of a cliff
>go down
>end up below and still outside
If I can figure how to fix it, then I'm sure chinks could too.

>>165365592
mace for ds2, anri's straightsword+carthus rouge. Basicly speedrunner weapons.

>>165365592
>2
Fire longsword kinda
Mash things with hammers
>3
Raw astora kinda
Anything with bleed as far as bosses go

>>165365592

2: Mace/Rapier/Craftsman Hammer
3: Raw ASS/Anri's

>>165365313
>heal parries
heal parries were needed because numbing mist was impossible to hit anyone with and every person carried 20 vials from the very start instead of gradually upgrading estus which only reached 15 at the very end of a game
>not making the player as agile
going from bb to ds3 i don't see a difference in terms of overall speed of movement and ds3 roll provides as much opportunities to evade something as quicksteps, even more so bloodring fastroll
>out of place
well i guess entirety of Izalith is out of place for soulsverse then
as well as abyssal abominations, entirety of blighttown and other places full of repulsive as fuck enemies

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>>165365086

>DaSIII PC
>more popular than on PS4

????

So which ending do you consider to be the most fitting one for DS3?

Im betting the lot of you bought into the "make londor great again" propaganda

>>165365592
In DS2: Grand Lance.

160 counter, found in a chest. Even at +6 and base stats you can pull off 1000+ damage R2s against bosses.

>fight some DMB curved sword faggot
>he rebuffs in the middle of the fight
>take the opportunity to use great heal
>points down on me
So why do people feel like they're entitled weapon buffs, but I'm not allowed to use my miracles?

>>165365313
>Aside from making the gameplay faster

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought it has always been preferable stamina-wise to evade instead of blocking or using heavy armor in every game in this series.
At the same time though, there was no reason to weaken armor to the level of pointlessness (outside of poise) it has in 3.
And I could again be wrong, but I didn't feel like there's a higher emphasis on repulsive enemies in 3 than the other 2 games.
There's horribly disfigured creatures beating you with corpses in the first 2 games, not to mention the people with fucked-up bloated heads in 1 in the Painted World, or those malformed fly-creatures in Blighttown.
I remember the Pus of Man and the some of the Corvians in 3, what else is outwardly repulsive?

>>165366116
I think the ending where you let the Flame fade in company of the Firekeeper is the best and most fitting ending.

>>165366069
Show me the number of players on any of the consoles. Oh wait right, you fucking can't.

>>165366194
Because duelists are tryhard shitters who have their own stupid pvp etiquette or some retarded shit.

>>165366116

Let the Fire fade. It's the comfiest ending and it's what this series should do, just let it go.

>>165363573
>dat blessed clay at 0.09

>>165366249
Blocking usually consumes less stamina than rolling in DS2.

There are some exceptions (magic shield, ivory warrior ring, etc.) but all of those execptions are nullified by baneful bird ring or great magic shield.

>>165359369
Just use the greatsword man, it all you'll ever need honestly

go 40/40 and rip through your enemies

>>165365621

you can't spam dodges in bloodborne, you will get rollcaught and fucking destroyed with that instability modifier - which DaS3 doesn't have on rolls

>>165366392
>>165366249
DS2 also punishes rolling twice in a row much more heavily.

>>165366383

Makes me wonder why From couldn't make buffs look like that in DaS2.

>>165366361
Yeah but even then, why do they feel it's ok to literally run off to buff then get mad when I use the space to my advantage?

>>165365045

I would. There is no way you can win. It's simply speed. It just relies on opponents mistakes.

>>165366249
>weaken armor to the level of pointlessness (outside of poise) it has in 3.
up to 25% damage reduction in pvp is not pointless in any shape or form
just not as broken as pre-nerf ds2 armor

God shitfucking asscock, I can't believe I'm stuck on Champion Gundyr, because it takes me so long to get back there.

I think I might need to take a break, three bosses within a span of few hours might be a bit too much.

>>165366590
Fight him and prove him wrong then

>>165366398
>40/40 on DS2 greatsword

what

Greatsword is pretty good (and super boring) but it is a pure strength weapon.

>>165366508
Framerate. The animations for soul collecting on my PC causes slight inconsistent fps drops when I kill a bunch of enemies at once. I can't imagine if that was constant. It's probably worse on PS3.

>>165366708
try parry

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>>165366353

Uhh, yeah, that's the point. How can you draw the conclusion that PC is more popular then?

What we do know is that the game has loads more sales on PS4, and that Souls is a primarily console based series. The PS4 community being much larger than the PC community right now is a reasonable deduction.

>>165366573
because autism, if you can even get a heal off in arena it means your opponent is retarded.

What is the optimal level range for Irithyll? ~50 with +6 weapons? Also for what is the proof of concord well kept rewarded for exactly? Killing faithfuls or sometihng else?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12092376

>>165366767
It has S in str and D in dex

And yes 40/40 for max dmg

And then he can also switch weapons if he gets bored once in a while.

And I find the greatsword to be a lot of fun, as some bosses, you'll have to pick your attacks very specificly, as its slow as fuck

If you want a boring build, go rapier, gold pine and then 2 hand r1 spam

>>165367139
Proof of Concord is gained from being summoned into a host's world and turning that 3v1 gank into a 4v1 gank (lmao such balance)

>>165367217
do i
>r1 smash everything
>pancake everything
hmmm

>>165366749

Don't care about proving him wrong. I'm trying out this Lorian cosplay build and I don't see how you can even hit someone kiting you with a weapon that outspeeds it. Shit feels impossible.

>>165367217
greathammers rule nigguh

>>165367364
I was asking about the doubled one which I could just dupe with tumblebuff.

>>165366896
So you're just gonna pull shit out of your ass and call it deduction? Alright.

>>165366896
Wrong. The only sales figure you have is physical sales numbers to go on. Released by third party retailers. Of fucking course PS4 would have higher physical sales.

And before you say something like "no it includes digital copies" no it doesn't because sony doesn't release those numbers.

>>165367289
>1.1 Str scaling
>.15 Dex Scaling

AR gain from 98 to 99 strength: .75

AR gain from 30 to 31 dex (max gain): 0.57
Ar gain from 10 to 11 dex: 0.34

The ONLY time where putting a stat into dex is worth it for greatsword is if your strength is 99.

Does fucking anyone play Scholar on PS4?

Why is the FUGS so perfect?

Why is great heal in the arena so good? You'd think you wouldn't get a chance to use it but damn

>trade with a guy so we're both at low HP
>faggot goes into passive-reactive pussy mode
>just let him backpedal away and use great heal

>fight a dude who plays super passively from the start
>just casually walk ontop of the pillar cause that's a place where he'd actually be forced to fight instead of spam rolling
>if he doesn't come up, just great heal and drop a "thank you" carving

This happens on like, every other match

>>165367882
Because it knows that UGS parries are dumb and that using the sword as a shield for counter attacks is ideal.

>>165366778
I can reliably parry him, until he goes apeshit.

Actually that isn't my problem, I'm too goddamn squishy, so failing a parry means I die, so I need a perfect streak of them. But the mother bitch of this whole thing is running back to him. And I'm making retarded mistakes, because I am too stubborn to take a break or cut my losses and come back later.

What level are you supposed to fight this guy anyway?

>>165364618
DaS3 is literally discount BB.

>>165368050
If you can time a fume deflection you could reasonably time an UGS parry too, I don't see why you think it's dumb

it's definitely more stylish tho

>>165368145
SL80-100
Do you have 27 Vig and Ring of FaP?

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>Bloodring Corvian Greatknife build

I'm using this since a few days and it's one of the most annoying but fun cancer builds I have ever played. I destroy double gold CCS and GFS shitters with ease with my absurd i frames and attack speed. People try to beat me with parry spam or R1 spam and the dagger is just too fast for either.

Playing a fast and agile asshole thief has never felt this fun in any Souls game.

It's a very risky playstyle because your HP gets demolished when hit but your rolls are beyond broken and the rolling attack comes out so fast that you can interrupt nearly any attack and hit them several times before they realize they should be rolling away from the flurry of hits.

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>>165368308
>you could reasonably time an UGS parry
It has like 40 startup frames.
You need your opponent to be a blind, retarded degenerate to pull it off.

>using chameleon in the arena turns you into a slimy tentacle
the fuck?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/134654

What should I add to hit 120? Vig is pretty obvious, but how muh more for this sort of thing? I'm willing to go beyond level 90 of course. I'll probably have a quick backup weapon and caestus. Force is for knocking fuckers off my pillar, but I'm tempted to replace fire surge with serpent since I've already got darts for passive dickery. With more faith (which I'll probably end up having) I could use the bigger regenerative miracle, but that costs two slots.

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I fucking hate Gaping Dragon
It's barely challenging at all but it's giant HP pool makes it so tedious to deal with
All of it's moves are super fucking easy to dodge but getting caught in its charge ONCE knocks you back into its mouth and instantly kills you

>>165367887
Healing in the pillar is pure cancer. I don't mind healing anywhere else, but if you see someone go up the pillar you have to swap to cat ring and pray the opponent doesn't spam r1 forcing you to roll off, and take that opportunity to heal. He can also heal while you equip the cat ring or after he jumps off.

>>165368449
>Bloodring

This thing is so good. DaS3 already has DWGR rolls, now imagine putting another DWGR on top of that.

>>165368479
Doesn't the fume bounceshield have quite a start up time too?

The timings don't seem that different and I've used both extensively and successfully. Maybe I'm just misremembering, I haven't played in a while.

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>>165367651
>>165366896

If I am to believe vgchartz and Steam's own numbers, DaSIII has about 400k to half a million more physical sales on PS4, than digital owners on Steam. PC's physical sales are extremely low, so if PS4's digital copies were included the difference would probably be even bigger.

And as said, combined with the fact that Souls has always had a much larger presence on console, the PS4 playerbase being significantly larger than the PC one is more likely than the opposite.

Please don't be mad PC friends.

>>165368704
What are you using to show dark souls 3 purchases on steam? Because valve doesn't show sales numbers on digital sales either.

>>165368436
I'm level 55, I have 12 vigor and don't even know where to get ring of FaP.

>>165368941
>12 vig
shit nigga
start pumping that up

Good melee weapon for a DaS Pyromancer?

>>165368963
Yeah, I just increased it by 2.

>>165369046

Balder Side Sword.

>>165368514
pic?

>>165368793

My apologies, it was steamspy.

>>165368941
One of the beasts that guards aldritcht faithful covenants drops that ring.

>>165369046
Iaito, if you don't mind weeabooing it up.

>>165369046
yeah
the starting axe

>>165369046
a club

any club

>>165368521
>getting caught in its charge ONCE knocks you back into its mouth and instantly kills you
Level up VIT lmao
You killed the Channeler, right?

>>165369046
Quelaag's Fury Sword

>>165368941
55 isn't too bad
12 vig is kinda bad though, 27 is the first big breakpoint you're expected to hit. Even my Sl26 has 27 vig, those first 27 levels give you a lot.

>comfy
>good looking
>good stats distribution
>available early in the game so you can upgrade it right away
Give me 1 (one) reason to use something other than Knight's set in any of the games

>>165369194
Aye.
~1.68 million sales worldwide of physical copies for PS4
~1.3 million estimated owners on steam

I'd think that there would be another digital retailer besides steam for countries that steam doesn't sell well to (such as ironically china) but I've got nothing for them.

I swear I've died more to Abyss Watchers than any other boss in the series
They're not even hard, I don't know why they give me so much trouble

>>165369427
You're too busy ejaculating to the music/atmosphere

>>165369415
I don't like the open helmet, so I just use the Elite Knight helm with the set.
Also the EK gauntlets since they look exactly the same but have better stats.

>>165366249
He probably liked WoWsouls 2

>>165369046
Literally anything that benefits from Dec at all

The only requirement for pyros aside from att slots is that they need 40 to 45 dex

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I miss the DS2 Long Sword moveset.

Is it worth playing Dark Souls 1? I had a save probably around 70% done but somehow it corrupted a few years back and I lost my progress. Now my DS fix and all that shit is all fucked up and I want to use a mouse and keyboard. Idk if it is worth doing. I do sort of want to beat it though before I consider buying the second game.

>>165369723
I only miss holding it at my side, Ds3 has a better moveset save for the pointless 2hr2s

>some dude charges me down and attacks me while I use at the start of a match
>beat him to death with my catalyst
Is this kind of thing normal in the arena? People really suck

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>>165369526
best fashion
>>165369832
yes

>>165369832
Yeah

Just remember:

res is the worst stat to level

pick the class with the fewest levels wasted on stats you don't want, with the exception of res since starting res doesn't add to starting sl

and look up which att levels actually give you att slots

>>165370108
>EK leggings

>you can start up a longsword r2 at the same time as a greatsword r1 and still roll out in time
From really dropped the ball with some of these recovery frames in DS3

>>165370163
>not liking the actually armored leggins

>>165369906

I wish they would bring back the DeS style of holding small weapons, it looks so much cooler than awkwardly pointing it up at all times.

What level am I supposed to be fighting Spooky McBlingBling?

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>>165368521
>first time playing
>go human before Gaping Dragon
>summon both Lautrec and Solaire
>beat its butt while both phantoms die, kill dragon
>"oh no they're both dead"
>go back to Firelink all depressed
>see Lautrec
>*whew*
>accidentally R2 pyromancy trainer, kill him
>restart game because I didn't know you can get sins forgiven

2nd run through feels extremely easy now that I understand combat. Also I killed the hellkite. Pic is me outside the bonfire. Don't have 'praise' yet so shrug had to suffice.

>>165363149
I bet you bow before each fight too huh?
There's nothing wrong with using the whip.

>>165363578
I'm not going to go for 50 dex while being a pyro, and I want to focus more on the whip and sword over actual pyromancies. Spells suck in PvP in DS3. Magic was perfect in 2 and now it's the same garbage as DS1 had where it required stupid fucking accurate precision and timing. I would do more, but the meta is 120 and that's kind of shit for using both a whip effectively and pyromancy.

I love the whip though. Flamberge just because it's the only sword I have at the moment really.

>>165370372
I like the studded look of the thighs on the regular Knight leggings.

>>165370527
>>165363578
Also I'm not going to get Ethereal Oak, I'm not paying 14 dollars for the worst DLC.
How much stamina should I go for? I don't see how to increase it and still be at level 130.
40/40 is nice for chaos fireballing everything in PvE by the way. Vit is because I don't know what armor I want to wear yet. Also I just use the shield to pull out the special whip move whenever instead of having to two hand it.

>>165370527
Did you even check his build? He should either focus on actually getting attunement slots and become a real pyro or focus more on the whip damage in which case vestiges are worthless.

>>165370115
Would hunter work well?

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>>165369941
>izalith catalyst damage
Why is it so high?

>>165370839
>>165370527
Sounds like you should just play DaS 2 or 1 since you aren't enjoying 3 at all

>>165370926
all starting classes except deprived are good
don't listen to that anon's meta shit and do whatever you want
i always pick stuff based purely on fashion and never had a problem in pve

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For a pirate build in Dark Souls II, should I use Espada Ropera, or Melu Scimitar?

Sanctom Crossbow for a firearm, or Forbidden Sun as a cannon?

>>165370992
I was actually using the ariandel flail

>>165370850
>in which case vestiges are worthless
Can swap it out for chaos fireball in pve, that's why I have it.

What build? He didn't link me a build.

>>165371096
I haven't played 3 much, I just don't like the magic in it. Where are you getting this from? I never said I'm not enjoying it. I will say it's not the typical Souls game at all though.

>>165371149
Forbidden Sun is always fun.

>>165370839
Endurance soft caps at 40 or so. I just keep it there. 40 end. + Chloranthy ring is nuts

>>165371283
So what would I take points from for that? Also that seems a bit unecessary. Should I just go to level 150? Do people play at 150? I heard the meta is 120, but 120 does seem kinda low.

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>>165370494
The first time I played Dark Souls, I got two characters stuck at and never past Gaping Dragon. I just couldn't beat it, so twice I thought 'I must have fucked up my stats and equipment, I better restart.' As it turns out I was just really shitty because I hadn't figured out stuff like roll weights and lock ons, and I'd been making the fight harder for myself by summoning both Solaire and Lautrec, who die super quickly and leave you to face a GD with an inflated health pool.

After that I got gud at the game and found almost the entire thing a fucking breeze. Now I'm doing my fourth or fifth playthrough and I'm having to relearn everything. It's my first time playing since DaS3 came out, and DaS1 is an entirely different beast: it feels so much slower, and reaction timing is so much more important.

>>165371275
>I'm not paying 14 dollars for the worst DLC

No souls game is worth it if you don't want to get the DLC.

>>165369415
Battle axe is a pretty good early game weapon in DS3
Can't remember if the battle axe is any good in ds2 bacause ds2 was my first souls game and I sucked with the warrior starting class. Switched it to knight because light is the most noob friendly

>>165371542
I do dislike the dlc for the unbalanced weapons it brought in. Going to need some patches for that shit fast. Its stupid how much better the etheral oak shield is compared to the ancient dragon greatshield.

>>165371420
Well, I'm just reading off of my first playthrough natural build. I've never played pyro, so I wouldn't know what to distribute

I would say go fight stuff, if you find yourself running out of stamina a lot, pour more points in

>>165371831
It's stupid how good gold tracer, ice rapier and saif were too.

>>165372078
Forget the saif, the rakuyo remains the most busted weapon FROM has ever put in one of these games.

>>165371542
What?
All it has shit weapons, a few spells, and another stupid fucking giant dog. I bet you stand under it to beat it just like all the pothers. maybe it vomits too.

>>165372062
Ah, I see. Well I feel okay on stamina, but I could use more.
Maybe go up to 150 then?

>>165372078
And isn't the drakeblood armor from sunken king objectively superior to faraam?

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>Dumb cunt in arena tries to pull mind games
>Starts sprinting and twitching around spastically
>Walk up to them and fucking kill them
Is there anything more satisfying?

I am a poorfag but want the 2nd and 3rd game. What is the absolute least i can spend on getting them both for steam? Yes steam because I want to fight for achievements instead of torrenting the games. Plus torrenting is pretty dead now since KAT and TPB are gone.

>>165372541
dumb faggot

>>165372541
you can buy sotfs keys on like g2a or some shit or wait for a sale
same for das3 probably
what's the point of your question? we don't hold /dsg/-specific sales here

>>165362791

I just got through that area an hour ago and picked it clean. Easily one of the shittiest areas in III, even worse than Farron Keep.

But the rewards are good, good enough to get me to return next playthrough

>>165372502
I think what they're trying to do is the DS2 strategy of giving so many inputs, the game fails to show you some of them on the other end.
Which means they can sometimes get attacks with nearly no animation off.

>>165372752
Well I can say for certain that some of the peopke here were VERY giving on christmas. I got like 4 major games from people and gave out 7.

>>165372878

That doesn't work in DaS3, right?

>>165372409
Many of the weapons are quite good, actually.
Spells aren't that great.
You can't stand under the wolf without getting fucked. And it doesn't vomit, I have no idea what would make you think it would.
The DLC isn't nearly as long as the Crown ones or TOH, but there's more to it than what you apparently think is in it.
At the same time, I don't agree with >>165371542, there's nothing in this one that's a must-have.

>>165373006
No, it doesnt, hence you walking up and killing them

>>165373104
It vomits ice.

>>165373104
>Many of the weapons are quite good, actually
You mean broken?

>I have no idea what would make you think it would.
The giant rat dog in 2.
Why can't you stand under it, what do you do for it then? Just roll like every other boss in the game?
>The DLC isn't nearly as long as the Crown ones or TOH, but there's more to it than what you apparently think is in it.
I just don't think what little it gives is worth 15 dollars.

>>165373154
Pls don't be serious, that would be so goddamn stupid if it did.

>>165373281
They're no more broken than in other dlcs

>>165373154
Forgive me, I remembered it as a breath attack.
Though maybe breath and vomit are interchangeable.

>>165373104
The end boss is one of the best in the series so far. Its in my top 10s

>>165373104
>And it doesn't vomit
Yes it does.

>>165373392
>The end boss is one of the best in the series so far. Its in my top 10s
Why is that?

>>165373414
>>165373364
Oh my god. That's lame. Fuck fromsoft and their giant furry fetish.

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I am really getting sick of IIIs fetish for giving every enemy a five-attack combo

>>165373506
BUT IT MAKES THE GAME HARDER
YOU NO RIKE IT?!

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>>165373506

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>>165373281
It does spit ice.

>>165373364
I assumed that the dude meant 'breath attack' and was just saying 'vomit' as it's a negative word which shows how fed up he is with all the big animals that spit things.

>>165373505
I honestly don't mind the giant animals, I just wish they did something other than fucking dogs and dog-like rats. The cats in Ivory King were... kind of a breath of fresh air but ultimately very similar.

Do most people just go through Farron unkindled or offline? Or is it the same case as BS and DM in which some people never get auto-summoned?

>>165373505
The different stages
The first stage was a bit unmemorable but a little fun

The second stage has obvious O&S influence

The 3rd stage is tough, but not unfair. Reminded me of Artorius with how aggressive she was

>>165373506
They had to do ti because that's the only thing that can stop players from just spamming roll mindlessly.

They kind of cornered themselves on game design in DS3. Nothing is challenging because rolling is so strong. The only things that are vaguely challenges are bosses with extremely little downtime between attacks and those with very high hit combos. So pontiff and nameless kind, basically.

Everything else you just look at the attack and roll straight into it. That's it.

>Go through as Pyromancer run in DaS
>Grab curved sword
>Go to grab the BTSR
>Black Knight Sword drops
FUCK

>>165373281
>what little it gives
>some of the fanciest weapons of all souls games
>one of the best bosses that has a content worth of 3 boss battles
>more enemy variety than any other single souls dlc
>some pretty big open areas with virtually no fog walls all the way to Friede perfect for invasions
>what little it gives

>>165371420
Go to SL 150 if you wish, PvP dies around 300
A lot of people play at 150 range, it gets harder/longer to find players past 230
You'll almost never find anyone for PvE though, may it be 120 or more, you'll find more people to PvE with at lower levels

>>165373506
You'd have thought pre-patch drakekeepers would have made them rethink this kind of thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIqMqzt0Af8
It gets obnoxious after a while.

>>165374038
BKS will get obsolete before you know it

I just beat the nameless king. My heart hasn't raced this much since I beat Gwyn in DaS1.

Good golly

>>165374150

is that a mace or a fucking giant rubberball attached to a pole?

>>165374150
>pre-patch
Those guys still pull that shit. If they were patched, it didn't do its job right.

>>165372541
If you're from Europe you can try instant-gaming, they sell keys at pretty low prices, or g2a like an anon said

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>dread pontiff sully every plauthrough
>beat him first try in under 90 seconds
This means i will die 7 times to aldrich

>>165373768
>I just wish they did something other than fucking dogs and dog-like rats.
Yeah, that's more of what I meant.

>>165374091
>one of the best bosses
What makes it so special?
That's all pretty meh to me.

>>165374131
Well I kind of want this build for pvp I guess. Idk how good it'll be though, so I don't want to make a huge gamble. That's why I'm asking about what should I do.

>>165374229
Oh man, I forgot I'll have to fight him for stuff. I fucking hate Nameless King.

>>165374468
Go for 150 then, PvP is almost as active as 120. More than 150 and you wait a few minutes between each invasions/duels

>faggot with a quickstep knife in full thorns
>whip out the earthseeker, turn my back to the wall, and just keep spamming WA
The desperation in his movements as he eratically tried to escape the gangbang of quakes

>>165374221
>bks
>obsolete
You are confusing it with drake sword, anon
you can go through entire ng with it easily

>>165374648
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/134680
Is that a better setup? I don't know about gauntlets yet, or if I'll keep the flamberge in the long run, but I got it at +10 and infused with refine atm and it's carried me through a lot. Even if it's kinda shitty. It just has that first pokemon caught feeling for me with this build.

>first time fighting Gwyn
>remember all the posts and parry his jump attack
>"boy this is gonna be easy"
>die instantly to a 3 hit combo
reminder to never get cheeky

>>165374909
It's simply not worth the stat investment, especially for a pyro who will just rape the second half of the game with kellogs as melee backup.

>>165372923
You lucky motherfucker

I didn't get anything in the beg threads, and I was asking for shit that was 5 dollars maximum

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>>165374221
>extremely high base damage
>30% damage buff against demons
>obsolete
Its like 40 ar less than a quality claymore.

>>165375361
>heavy as shit
>slower than other greatswords
if you can wait up to sen's, man-serpent GS is a much better choice and needs only 27STR to reach the damage of quality claymore in 2h, which is the same stat investment as base stats for BKG

>>165375160
>first time seeing black knight in DaS3
>remember their move sets and timings
>parry him twice in a row and kill him
>feelsgood
>see black knight with great axe
>get fucked in the arse
I got cheeky too friend

>>165375160
Fun fact, it's the exact same timing as against pontiff. Learn to do that one then you can learn to do the other

>>165375361
>30% damage buff against demons
Modifiers like this don't actually work in DaS1.

>>165375132
>dark flamberge
>less AR than a dark longsword
lel

>>165375543
too bad i won't be playing das3 any time soon

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>tfw killing all three Ruin Sentinels before your resin goes out

>>165375591
No need to be a dick anon.
Why would i use a dark longsword? That seems like it'd be much easier to parry or get fucked up with.

>>165375535
Yeah but you can't max a man serpent greatsword before quelagg

>>165375706
that mousepad would've been pretty fucking cool without the pedo part

>>165375132
It looks breddy gud
You should replace ring of steel protection with another ring, this one is useless for both PvE and PvP
You can also put another spell with 18 ATT. You could put black serpent
Flamberge is a good weapon, any weapon is a good weapon as long as you like to play with it any weapon gets good when you git gud, or more when you get used to it
With 40 DEX you can try dex weapons too

>>165375573
?
Lost Izalith is a breeze if you wield BKS

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>>165374717
>Quickstep fag
>Activate spinning WA

>>165374150
This should be the final boss.

>>165375871
>this one is useless for both PvE and PvP
Really? I think 10 for damage absorption is pretty decent.

>You could put black serpent
Everyone always dodges that, put I guess I could use it.

>With 40 DEX you can try dex weapons too
Yeah I was thinking about experimenting with some of them.

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Good times with torches

>>165375361
I now want a dark sign sticker for my laptop but I don't want to show my power level to my normie colleagues

>>165375871
>any weapon gets good when you git gud, or more when you get used to it
I want to see you wreck shit with wooden hammer.

>>165375985
Not him but pretty sure lost izalith is a breeze no matter what you do
i only ever died on the centipede demon

>>165374150
>that hitbox porn

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/134685

Any suggestions for the fourth ring? Should I replace any? Critiques on the stat investments?

>>165376249
>dying to centipede demon
haha loser

Patch when
News when
DLC when

I need some reason to play this game again. Why has there been total silence for so long?

>>165376451
>post about dying to any boss in the series
>obligatory "haha loser" reply
kill you're self

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOMB4Ngs90c
Wow, this seems kinda broken. Weird that i haven't seen people using it.

>>165376063
Armor doesn't matter anymore in DaS3, not as much as previous games. A heavy armor like Havel's will maybe save you from 1 hit, but with a light armor, like clothes, you can't take that 1 more hit. Can be useful sometimes, but isn't worth all the levels that needs to be put in VIT
You could change your fashion to get something a bit more light, so you can remove Havel's Ring and replace it with another one
I was thinking about the pyromancy rings, you'll get more damages with them

You could use another spell than black serpent if you don't want to use that one; carthus flame arc, so you can buff your weapon to get a bit more damages

>>165376554
kys ur self

>>165375573
Yeah they do. I just tried it against a couple of Batwing Demons in Anor Londo. My Claymore +15 with 531 AR did 449 on an R1, my Black Knight Sword with 517 AR does 522. Trying the same two weapons against a Silver Knight yields 409 for the Claymore and 393 for the Black Knight Sword. Maybe the effect isn't as powerful as it should be, but it is present.

>>165376451
>dying ever
>ever increasing vig/vit
Just dont get hit, bro.

>>165376234
Alright, let me git gud with it first, I never used it, I love UGS even though it's slow like great hammers, but I dislike great hammers somehow

>>165372502
>DID THIS NIGGA JUST WALK UP AND DOWN SMASH?

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>use tears of denial
>other guy uses a weapon buff
>throw duel charm at him
>he realizes what I'm doing
>stands still to throw a duel charm back at me while I throw one at him
>we're now both duel charmed
>his buff is stripped, mine is not
OUTPLAYED

>>165377159
>throws a knife
>rolls with thorn armor piece
wow man

>>165376562

What is it with pivots and Fromsoft? DeS and DaS also had pivot related glitches with spells.

>>165376707
>You could change your fashion to get something a bit more light, so you can remove Havel's Ring and replace it with another one
But I like some of the armors and they weigh a fair amount. I want to look cool too dammit.
Why did they have to make such a fucked up stat like vit?

>>165377576
So you babies will not be able to have 170 stamina and fast roll in full havel's without compromising your other stats.

>>165377576
U RIKE ?

I can't wear some armors with my pyro because it gets me over 70%

>>165377482
All three games use the same engine, it's no surprise that the same shit is broken. From is practically Japanese Bethesda with their inability to move on from that engine.

>>165377296
>not getting the point
we traded duel charms and he lost the trade

What's it looking like for the second DLC?

>>165377873

They fixed DaS pivot casting but somehow it's back.

>>165377696
>to have 170 stamina and fast roll in full havel's without compromising your other stats.
But Havel's is shit in this anyway.

>>165378052
Are you one of those poise deniers?

>>165378197
I don't know.
I don't know what a poise denier is anon.
Let me guess. I bet you think poise is still in the game.

>>165377948
That one Slavic dude who makes videos about cut content and shit claims he's found stuff in the game's files that translates to stuff like 'City of Hollows' and 'Hollow Priest.' If he's telling the truth then it sounds like we might be going to Londor but apparently he's a notorious bullshitter, and the names of stuff in the files are often nonsense/only vaguely related to their final form.

>>165378407
Have they given a timetable at least?