World of Warships Admiralty /wowsg/

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>>165198097

https://github.com/wows-stats/wows-stats
Start here.

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>>165197786
xth for nuke shell

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3rd for Roon is best Tier 9.

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These are subject to change:

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>>165198427

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>>165198515
Why is the post timer so high here?

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>>165198605

>>165198427
>Worcester as a Tier VIII
>Wichita as a Tier IX

Exactly how high was the person who draw this thing up?

>>165198605
>some monstrosity
lel

>>165198427
>>165198515
>>165198605
>>165198682
why were these made for ants? Ants dont know what botes is.

>>165198176
divisions MM like the "heaviest" ship in division, there, fixed
of course slavs can't make it so cause of confusing new players ((((((

>>165196512
Lexington as a BC would have worse armor, less HP and fewer guns than Amagi. Even with fantasy upgrades, it would belong at tier 7.

I just love how the Royal Navy told the USN about their plans for Hood, a battlecruiser with almost battleship-level armor, with the recommendation that the Americans should build similar ships...and the USN response was to take their existing battlecruiser design and REDUCE the already inadequate armor. Even better was the idiotic "logic" involved in this decision: that building true fast battleships would render all the slow battleships (like the Standard Types) obsolete, and they didn't want that to happen. As if by refusing to build their own fast battleships, the USN could've somehow prevented other nations from building them. Especially since Hood already existed.

Any Burger here, who can give me some numbers on people playing during primetime?
Due to being stuck there, cause of no account transfer to the EU Server, I'm only seeing 5000 to 8000 players during the time I usually play.
How is it looking there when it is not during the middle of the night ?

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>>165198682
>>165198691
It's cobbled together from notes from the developers themselves during the alpha/beta. There used to be a wiki had everything cited.

Keep in mind that plans change: this IJN chart is the best example of that. Not everything is in concrete, but it gives us a good idea of where the developers intend to go.

>>165198958
14-15k during primetime aka now

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>>165198959

>>165198958
Currently 15.8k online for me.

>>165199059
HA

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>>165199059
>>165199106
That just means the developers have been silent on the issue. I don't have charts for the Commonwealth, Poland, or "Pan-Asia".

>>165198958
15k or so, but been rising lately and I've seen up to 18k some days.

>>165198907
Neither of those are as dumb as pretending that Wichita is equal to Baltimore despite worse armor, worse AA and less HP. Or thinking that Worcester (ie Neptune with more armor, a lower citadel and able to set fires) is Tier VIII.

>>165199203
Fantasque class DDs when

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>>165199230
Thanks for the Info.

>>165199059
wtf RM had plenty of botes for a fairly complete CA, BB, DD tree

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>French line BB anon is late again

>>165199976
Stop gloating

t. V4L1UM

>>165199976
He got sunk by RN BB anon.

>>165195393
More Credits and More Signals and Camo

>>165197686
>Forego an irrelevant upgrade
>Free preferential MM
Never gonna happen.

>>165198682
>No Agincourt
I'm disappoint

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Well, after like 1 month of playing and reaching tier IV this game became of of my favorites!
I have a question, is aslain's mod safe? I sqw some videos with a damage counter in game and I heard that it comes with that mod.

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>>165200247

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Hotel: Literally, the QTest.

>>165200281
duede settings lamo

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>>165200425
>tfw no qt Hotel gf

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>>165200425

>>165200281
The game has an official damage counter. There's a box you can check on the menu to enable it, along with detailed damage ribbons (so you can see how many bounces/shatters/penetrations you're getting)

>>165200281
See >>165200467
You can enable the damage Counter and the detailed Ribbons in the Settings. You can also change your crosshair there.

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>>165198907
>>165199321
As I've already stated, these were built on comments by the developers themselves. What I've posted are people condensing the old wiki which had everything annotated and updated as time went on.

You can find the NA thread here: http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/1697-what-we-know-about-ships-updated-30112016/

There's also an EU mirror thread.

I can't stress this enough. I posted a condensed version of a summary of second-hand information that is quite ancient. The only purpose it has is to show us what the developers were thinking at the time.

For example: I don't think they have plans to bring monitors into the game anymore.

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>be honorable unnerfed minekaze clone #17834672
>cap C on shard
>honorable hatsurahu decides to help
>meet enemy ognevi and funbucket there
>torp both of them, smoke a shit.
>enemy CV sends TBs to keep us spotted
>set on fire, dodged torps, a engine out by a nearby graf spee
>2 BBs gonna push us off cap
>hatsuharu ran away like a good dd would
>i torped the baBBy then died
>flood nets me the 3rd kill
NIPPON

BANZAI

>tfw no slutty museum gf

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>>165201359
She looks really good for her age gotta say.

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>>165201359
>>165201506
She's cuter when she doesn't dress like a whore.

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>>165201506
She may look clean. But with her age and given the amount of seamen that has flooded her insides and covered each and every corner of her, she must have quite a few STDs to share.

Remember, you can't fight the Axis if you get VD!

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>>165201637
Rude. Prostitutes are cute.

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>>165201637
Japs can fuck off. Iowa will show herself off if she wants to.

Well, I'm just done for the day. Had another team that turned tail and fled as soon as we were engaged despite having numerical superiority. My winrate for today is 33%. I've managed to climb into green for the past month and today is just tomato fucking red.

>>165202164

I feel you anon. Hope you have better luck on your next attempt and never stop improving.

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>tfw your divmate is having a bad day and quits early

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>>165202164
today i started real bad, a friend DD torped near me and i had to dodge it, making me go broadside to a brismarck and putting me on LOS of 2 CAs. i died with 8k damage done

i didnt stopped. thats for losers and normies.

you are not a normie, are you anon.?

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>>165201359
>>165201506
>>165201637
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>>165202151

Just end your lives, weebs. No one would bat an eye.

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>Get a 3840X2160 monitor
>Adjust my settings
Can't read shit.

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>>165202825

>Just barely sub 1k WTS
>Mix of t5-t8s
>Avg 1.3k exp
>Probably will get Gaff- but few, if any, other free botes by the time the event ends
T-this is fine.

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>>165202164
Tomorrow's another day. Keep your chin up and go at it again later.


>>165202825
Says the so-called normalfag on 4chan. Top kek.

>>165199959
This represents what tehy KNEW they could model in 2014.

Latest info on Italian botes is that blueprints for pretty much everything are available.

Holy shit Graf Spee is terrible.

>guns can't hit anything
>when they do it overpens
>or bounces off a fucking nurnberg belt while he hits you back with HE for 4k every 6 seconds

>>165202992
>1600 WTS
>too lazy and jaded to play
>will get the Graf and probably Leander
>really want Fuso and Farragut tho
sigh

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>>165202825
Protip: when you say "I don't care", it actually meant you care. If you really don't care, you should just ignore them and not say anything at all.

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>>165202909
>falling for the resolution above 1080p meme

>>165203365
>Not upgrading to Ultra 4k
Enjoy the stone age, grandpa.

>>165203241
The only non prem t7+ I have is Akatsuki 'cause I started on the JP dd line hard when new before the line split, and realizing torp dds blow currently. Literally every unlockable ship in the convoy would jump that line forward- probably like half would be the first in line even.

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Fact: Weebs are statistically likelier to be unicums.

>>165203883
>Coffee and bacon pleases teh kitsune :3

>>165203883
Fact: Weebs are pseudo bronies and Raptor will never be unicum.

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>tfw when the idiot teams are on the other side

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god these teams are infuriating

>>165204724
nice name change :^)

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>All this anti anime cropping up again
I know it's always been here but seems worse now than before. Maybe all the players coming in.

Reminds me of that forum post that complained about ARP events since the main site had anime on it and he was mad he couldn't browse it at work since people will see it. Hilarious.

Just fucking deal with it. I have as power stopping you from posting real ships as you do stopping me from posting Graf.

>>165205409
or maybe it's people getting sick of having normal discussion about ships and game interrupted by pedo bullshit

>>165205848
I love how pedo is always the go to insult from people who hate anime.

>>165205848
poi~

>>165206070
Right, wouldn't want to get in the way of the usual circlejerking would we?

>>165206070
>pictures of child-like cartoon girls
>not pedo
>liking said animated shows
>over 13 years of age
sure man, whatever helps you pretend you're normal

>>165201637
>not wanting your shipfu to be a brainless bimbo

kys

>>165206225
meant for >>165205848

>>165205409
>Reminds me of that forum post that complained about ARP events since the main site had anime on it and he was mad he couldn't browse it at work since people will see it. Hilarious.
People get fucking weird about anime. I get shit for watching it from people I grew up with and watched it with me when I was a kid. Hell, one guy was trying to get me to watch Fullmetal Alchemist just a few months ago.

This game started it actually; I wanted to see what Arpeggio of Blue Steel is all about and got back into it.

>>165204072
nothign wrong with being into horses

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>>165206359

Waste of air right there.

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>New thread
>French BB anon still nowhere to be seen

????????????????

>>165206225
let's recap the thread sofar
>talking about proposed full techtrees
>posting results and complaining about shit teams
>talking about upgrades and MM
>several pictures discussing shit that belongs on /e/
hmmm, I really don't know man

>>165202909
Welcome to the master race
>>165203365
lol1080peasants

>>165206683
He went to French Navy Museum
snorkeling at Mers El Kebir

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>>165206490
>Not being strictly into Foals.
You are not a true degenerate!

>>165206716
And there's no raptor/cancer shitposting.

I'd rather deal with this shit instead.

What I don't get is why anyone still bothers complaining about anime.
Like it or not, it's not going away no matter how much people complain.

>>165206779
It's so small, chain, I can't read anything.

>>165206897
>needing to read
fuckin nerd

>>165198327
Nuke shells for Iowa, Missouri and Montana when?

>>165198959
>aviation battleship Ise.
Is there hope?

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>French BB line still not announced

>>165207142
If they fix the Tone shit, who knows.

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>>165207226

>>165198427
>BB 65 2

???

>>165206897
reading is for peasants

>>165207142
They really don't know how to make it work, but they haven't given up hope. Tone is still buried in the code for example.

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How long do you think they'll keep Honorable Service around? I want to get Shinonome but I'm taking break to finish Santa Convoy. I imagine they'll rotate missions every quarter or so with a new ship.

>>165207226
>Ships, that can only drive backwards
>take more damage from your team than from your enemy
>Most useless and boring consumable in game (White flag)

Can't understand why people would want to play something this horrible.

>>165207453
we'll probably get a decent amount of warning, I don't think it'll be gone any time soon.
plus it doesn't take that long to finish if all you want is the bote at the end.

>>165207565
ebin memes

>>165206859

Considering weebs didn't get enough attention in their childhood, I'm just hoping one of them just snaps and ends his life reading what people think about his """""hobby"""""".


Which is just spamming everything else in the world that doesn't include their cartoons.

>>165207453
Wait, it's not permanent?

Fuck.

>>165207373
>Launch 2 plane bomber sqaudron
>It auto targets nearest ship with auto drop
>Return

Wow that was hard

>>165207453
it's probably gonna be new ARP missions, so, quarterly rotation or so

>>165207959
You mean having them in place of the ARP mission?
Seeing as the weebbotes are gone now.

>>165207732
Is that a hint of projection I read just now?

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>>165206306
i'm not really a "consumer" of anime, i lurk for some Lols and because i play the game, but this is 4chan not being completely normal is normal here.

AFT or DE for burger cruisers?

>>165208292
Tbh I want them to put in one of the Tillman designs, just as this game's version of the TOG, for no more reason than it'd be the easiest source of free fire damage farming imaginable.

>>165208292
different spectrum mate, see, this is a blue board and we're slightly autistic, /e/ is an orange board which is dangerously autistic

http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/01000000011000001000010000001001

How's this build for a Close in pushing Permanent North Carolina Captain? My Captain's at 18 already so I know I'll hit 19 come 6.0 but I'm torn between this and one that features intertia fuse.

Also, are stealth builds for the NC worth it? Currently I go AA heavy/Survivability so I use the Targeting Acquisition Mod but I saw with the CE + the Stealth mod you can get the NC down to 11.7 km Detectability and that's less than the Cleveland two tiers below.

>>165208390
I did DE. Shots from 10km out for USN DDs just break and do fucking nothing for me.

>>165207453
my understanding was the campaign is permanent, unless they decide to change them for some reason

>>165208540
From what they've said the beginner campaign is permanent, but the higher tier one may be changed at some point in the future, although it sounded like it's not going to be any time soon.

>>165208534
>Targeting Acquisition Mod
CE is infinitely better since it's much higher chance that you'll have someone in front of you to spot and if you're worried about DDs, well... get a map awareness sense IRL and don't charge into smoke, you're not a German BB

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>>165208504
i also want them in, but i do under stand how hard they would be to balance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_battleship
SO MANY BIG GUNS

>>165208534

It's definitely worth it. That stealth is great for averting the usual constant HE spam or one click deletion you're going to have to face in the Tier X games you're going to be dragged into.

Whether you decide to snipe from long range, push in close, or do both, the stealth is a huge help and basically functions as easily allowing you to disengage or ignore poor odds.

Plus, constant ambushing never gets old.

>>165208662
They probably need to get more ships ready but that would be a nice way to get early to mid tier premiums. It seems like the missions are very popular and people like them. I haven't seen much hate for them. At least not on NA.

They of course will leave high tier premiums for sale only.

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>>165207308
http://forum.worldofwarships.asia/index.php?/topic/11569-the-bb-65-design-studies/

They're alternatives to the design they ultimately picked for the Montana-class, like how Izumo is really just a Yamato alternative.

>>165208708

I mostly did it for Torpedos and to it's credit I VERY rarely get torped in my NC. It's maneuverable enough to dodge them, even good sized torp walls and that extra warning was nice. How is the a CE build? Like is it easy to "phase" in an out? My hesitation is mostly from that I always feel there's a DD between me and my target somewhere, even in close, and so there's really no way to ever take advantage of the stealth bonus.

>>165208830
by having this in UK line
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Incomparable

>>165208942

cont'

Also, what does the +20% spotting range, on the Targeting Mod actually do? It's not for torpedos, they have their own mention below that, and it's not assured acquisition which is above that.

>>165208526
Blue just means SFW
and orange is means can be NSFW
4chan was originally used for posting pictures and discussing manga and anime (from wikipedia) so don't be suprised when you see stuff about manga and anime.
trust me i'll never understand the cartoon fetish thing, but to each their own, this is their house

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>tfw fully upgraded Clemson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLm37SghNp8

>>165208942
I run stealth memes on every BB I play (all of the US and IJN ones, and my Tirpitz) and I wouldn't give it up for anything in the world. You'd be surprised at how much flexibility it gives you, especially in regards to disengaging from fights going badly or that you don't want to be a part of and being able to set up in the best possible position. Even on something like a Yamato you really don't have to be far back at all and you end up being unspotted a surprising amount of the time, especially if you're playing around terrain, having some DD just sit around and spot you forever is more something that happens when you're sitting back in completely open water.

Also for your other question, it does what it says on the box, all ships have their own spotting range, usually depending on the height of the ship which is why BBs can see across the map and DDs are a lot more limited, it's shown by the cone of vision on your minimap, and it's why spotted ships don't render when they're too far away from you.

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>>165209253
this unfortunately breaks the "nothing bigger than 18-inch rule" so i don't know if or how this will be put in, unless wargaming goes back on what they said (wouldn't be a big fucking surprise there) or they neuter/change it like the high tier German BBs

>KANTAI faggots featured on today's Jingles vid

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>>165208534
I don't really run stealth BBs, but your comments have made me think. This is the build I'm considering:

http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/00100000101000001000100001000001

>>165209668
>Also for your other question, it does what it says on the box, all ships have their own spotting range, usually depending on the height of the ship which is why BBs can see across the map and DDs are a lot more limited, it's shown by the cone of vision on your minimap, and it's why spotted ships don't render when they're too far away from you.

But... so those are the ships that show up on the minimap but with dotted lines around them and not actually on screen? The ones that are usually (at least in my NC) about 30-35 km away? All that +20% does is show them? You can't even shoot those they're like 10-12 km out of range.

>>165209312
>so don't be suprised when you see stuff about manga and anime.
I'm sick of this reasoning, in the beginning, fine, post it, but we have so many boards now, why fucking shove that shit down everyone's throat? It's literally how boards like /mlp/ and /vp/ and indeed /vg/ were created, to have a place to discuss their shit without impeding discussion on their "parent" boards, everyone (or mostly everyone) understands this except weebs who continue to post their infantile shit and disrupt regular discussion everywhere under the guise of "lmao, 4chan was created as an anime imageboard". Sure, and back then moot was in charge and we didn't have captcha or 4chan gold™ etc. Things change so get on with the times. If you like lolis dressed as ships, there's a board for that and it's called /e/.

>>165209819
The fact that they're running Flint/Atlanta/Atlanta is the more cancerous thing here

>>165209717
>nothing bigger than 18-inch rule
watch as t10 soviet BB is 20 inch mandingo

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>>165209923

You are free to go to /b/ or /r9k/ or /soc/.
That seems to be more of your liking.
Hello go to /v/ if you want to be a normalfag and talk about videogames.

>>165209923
what do you think you're going to achieve with this?
do you actually think any of them are going to leave or stop posting? in all likelihood they're just going to post more because they know it flares up people's autism to see cartoons on their videogames board

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>>165209923
So?

>>165209871

I'm not doing fire prevention. Even though I spend alot of time up front I just don't find it useful. On an NC, nose in and/or angled 90% of the time I find my front deck and forward superstructure are what get lite the most, so combining the superstructure into 1 doesn't really effect the way I play. And quite frankly the nerf to DE is a bigger help then the decrease fire chance. I'd rather have JoAT, which gives a flat cooldown bonus, especially since they are nerfing prem consumables. As it stands now, my Repair party coolsdown in 68 secs and DCP in 61 secs. That's why I don't mind fires as much, I can pretty much bang it on 1 and baring a potential torp strike, be very fine since it's a short 61 secs till I have it again, or basically 2 salvos.

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>>165210107
>/v/
>discussing video games
I haven't stepped foot in there in about 7 years and I'm 95% sure that nothing has fucking changed.

>>165210198

cont'

Also I don't find, on the NC at least, to need BFT much. I added it last when I got my 16th point and I didn't notice a drastic increase in damage to enemy planes. The NC with AFT already can chew threw enemy planes stock, the added benefit from BFT just seems a bit lost, and now that it's 3 points it seems not worth it to me. 90% of CV captains will actively avoid sending planes over a T8+ USN BB *anyway* so it really just doesn't have a place.

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>>165210324

That's the point. Normalfags don't want to talk about games and only want to talk about normalfag shit.

>>165210198
>>165210361
So no fire prevention, but what about Jack of All Trades and Adrenaline Rush instead?

I have BFT since I figured you're going to be close with the enemy to ambush them, might as well start shooting those secondaries. Superintendent or Vigilance might be better.

>>165209909
+50% to range of assured acquisition of enemy ships.
+20% to spotting range.
+20% to the acquisition range of torpedoes.

No, it also increases proxyspotting range (when neither smoke or even islands keep you concealed, it's somewhere around 2km usually IIRC) and torp spotting distance

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>>165210012
honestly wouldn't be suprised.
"but Tovarish, ship must derp fascist and capitalist pigs for glorious motherland xaxaxaxaxaxaxax"

>>165210107
but I want to talk about this videogame and battleships.
>>165210128
absolutely nothing, I'm just saying how I feel since we're kinda slow anyways.

If I really wanted a Warspite would I have a good chance to get her with crates or am I just better off buying her outright?

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>When you bully the enemy CV

>>165210582
Once you spend the same amount of money on crates and don't get her, you just pissed the money away. Just buy her.

>>165209909
Yes, those are the ones.
It's also why some DDs can technically be within the concealment range of an enemy BB but still can't spot them because they don't have the spotting range.
But nobody gets it for that, for obvious reasons.
The torpedo spotting range and the assured detection range (in smoke or whatever, changes it from 2km to 3km) is the point of it.

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>>165210548

>but I want to talk about this videogame and battleships.
No you don't. You want to complain about anime and anything that triggers you. If you wanted to talk about this game and BBs you would just talk about them and not care about the image. You lie to yourself and everyone here baBBy.

>>165210582
Just buy her. You have to spend what she's worth in crates to have a chance at her.

>>165210548
>but I want to talk about this videogame and battleships.
then why are you spending all of your time whining about anime instead?
other people seem happy to just talk about botes and ignore the stuff they're not into

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>>165210548
>but I want to talk about this videogame and battleships.
Then talk about it. Posting KanColle or some anime reaction image doesn't stop that. Most people post a shipgirl that is in the game or that they're playing. They don't stop and talk about the anime or the web browser game, well sometimes but not very often and mostly goes for a reply if that.

>>165210696
>>165210818
>>165210868
Well considering I'm actually doing both, seeing as I'm talking to you and the NC dude I feel fine with my multitasking skills.

>>165210453

I love JoAT, I know most don't, but as I said it gets my DCP down to 61 sec reload and Repair Party down to 68 secs. As far adrenaline rush, assume you're down at the max where you don't get dead from being breathed on, it knocks reload down to like 12-13 secs. While that sounds nice, it's too temperamental, and, for me at least, base my tactics around the 30 sec reload. Couple that with the stealth build which requires 20 secs to get stealthed, I just don't find it worthwhile, especially choosing it over EM or JoAT. I tried playing without EM for a few matche recently, to see if I could live without it, and I just can't.

Maybe if you hide in the back at max range you can but I try to keep myself in that 12-14 km sweet spot from my target which means I move alot which means I need EM.

>>165210454

Kay so that's going in the bin after 6.0 drops and I can respec into a CE build. Although I do wana see how the torp boats react to 6.0 since RDF is not getting dropped.

>>165210868
I wish I had somewhere to ;_;

>>165209954
Flint/Atlanta/Atlanta isn't cancer. It's hilarious. Bet you don't like triple Kamikaze divs or triple Poi divs, either, faggot.

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>>165210940

Then just fucking talk about the game. No one cares what you play really. Enjoy the game and have fun, but don't bitch about anime on 4chan.

>>165210678

Yeah I like it for the torp aquisition and I don't want Vigilance at 3 points since that involves giving up either Superintendent (which is insane) or BoS, which has saved my but more times than I can count.

What is your boating music.

>USN DD's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQAmvKMGUko

>>165211104
It's hilarious for 3 people and maximum cancer for everyone else.
There's nothing that gives me greater joy than seeing some chucklefucks looking for free wins in that ending up on Ocean and getting radar'd to death.

>>165210453
Is JoAT better than HA, I mean one is 10% on DC which is 6-8 seconds with premium off the base, but other is 3/4 seconds (so just a fucking 3 second difference, it probably won't save you) but also knocks off several seconds off healpot/hydro... which again probably won't save you but gives more utility

>>165211234

I mean, my basic attitude is if I can't dodge a torp with 2.5-3 km of warning, then I couldn't dodge it with 5 km of warning since it was probably a wall of hate from which no one can return.

>>165211279
That wasn't the image I wanted, but okay.

>>165211234
I don't run either of them and I really don't find torpedoes to be a problem, and that's not from sitting at the back of the map either, I like to be on the front lines too.

>>165211158
hey, I can complain all I want,4chan is American imageboard and here in America we can say what we want

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>>165211279

>IJN CVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7v9U5sDCPs

>>165209306
I think it increases the maximum render distance of a bote for your ship. No point really.

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>>165210012
They'll have the 457mm guns, watch and see.

http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/01000000001000001000000000001001
this is what I've got for general BBs and I'm stumped right now: SI sounds really good but I'd also like BFT, last 2 points probably HA.

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>>165211279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG8UuZ0NZGY

>>165207142

Gut says that whenever the patch that 'fixes' CV's come, it will drop with these boats as well.

>>165207835
That's boring and they'd be shot down easily if they all just go in one at a time.

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>>165212127

[_] No doubt
[x] Doubt

>>165198682

>KGV and Admiral Class at T7

YES PLEASE.

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full health
useless
autistic
downs syndrome
hiding
batteship

>>165207835

Is there anyone/ship that would work against? I mean that would be the easiest set of bombs to avoid.

>>165211715
This is what I intend on running on my Montana if it helps:

http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/01000000101000000000100110001000

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>>165212402

>Dead before the 10 minute mark

>>165212481
>dead in B8
>running away
lel

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:thinking:

>>165212559
>>165212402
REEE

>>165212471
see, I don't think manual secondaries on non-german ships are that good, I'd rather have BoS and exchange extra point and vigilance for concealment meme

>>165212402
>>165212559
>dead with only 69k
>whines about the shitters he was tasked with carrying

smdh

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#battleship
#was full health 1 minute ago
#hiding behind spawn

>>165212402
>>165212559
>died with shit for damage
>while running away, so probably horribly out of position
>probably just wanted to get carried for free wins by abru but too shit even for that

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>>165212668
Can't be helped. I love my Montana meme guns.

There might be better builds, but I love getting into brawls too much to consider them.

>>165212876
my avg dmg is only 39k :/

>>165212668

Not him but the Monty is a very different bird from other USN BB's when it comes to Secondaries. They aren't the same 5/38 guns on the NC and Iowa, they are the Mk41 58 guns and they are awesome. While in 99% of cases I would say it was a bad idea but if you play the Monty aggressively with the secondary build she'll give the Bismark a run for her money.

>>165212950
That reminds me, DE is T3 now. Hmmm, I might take that instead of vigilance.

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>>165212950
>a very different bird

>bote being referred to as a bird

poi

>>165212915
is your average tier played like 4 or something?

>>165212906
>>165212950
Jesus... well I've got Texas and hopefully Mo soon....ish so I can train a new captain and try secondaries as well, I'll see, I just feel like I'm fucking myself out of some survivability if I take secondaries over defense and sneak

>>165213145
my average tier is 5 :/

i have 45% solo wr too

>>165213127
poi is shit

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>tfw you cuck a nazi out of top spot
I hope he was doing one of those "be top of your team" campaign missions

>>165213191
abrach pls she's OK you just need to learn how to channel your inner poi.

>>165213242
how do you know it didn't show him on top on his screen?

>>165213071

If it's for a secondary build, I wouldn't. They are nerfing it down to 2% and it just won't make enough of a difference from 9% to 11% on the Monty's secondaries. IMO JoAT's will be the important T3 BB skill for USN, since they are nerfing prem consumables and the addition of Inertia Fuses means a alot more HE is going to be slung around, and even with the decrease fire chance, on some boats (namely jap CA's) it won't be that big of enough decrease to not still get set on fire every 3 second when brawling.

>>165213307
they didn't win the war

>>165212906

Just need to save up 1 million more credits until I can sell my Iowa and buy the Montana

>>165210582
>If I really wanted
I suppose you should just buy her outright. Personally, I would take my chances with the ¤1 containers though.

>>165213291
I'll channel your inner poi in a moment

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Can I ask some real question here. The only 'naval' experience I have is playing Battlefleet Gothic but thats >/tg/

Is HE really that effective against large ships? It doesn't seem like it would be all that effective to me.

And how does Top stay safe during the whole battle? Being in a tower doesn't seem like the best place to be once shells start flying.

>>165213151

AA is funny at T8 vs. T10. I would never not take AA upgrades on a T8 BB since you can actually do something about sky cancer against 6-8-9ish CV's, but T10 CV's are more or less immortal. I did a full AA build on my Monty once and was barely able to shoot a full torp squad down from the Midway, much less the other one plus 3 bombers that shat on me. So, as a result, I wouldn't waste points on AA on a Monty, because her AA stock is good enough to destroy T8 and T9 planes, and no amount of upgrades help against T10's.

>>165213674
>It doesn't seem like it would be effective at SHREDDING the superstructure and all the equipment and personnel on and in there that tell the ship where to go and what to shoot at

hmmmmmmmmm

>>165213775
>full AA build on my Monty once and was barely able to shoot a full torp squad down from the Midway

keep lying

>>165213674
Being a pyro is basically the only thing cruisers can do against a battlebote.

>>165213775
>I did a full AA build on my Monty once and was barely able to shoot a full torp squad down from the Midway, much less the other one plus 3 bombers that shat on me.
Hahahahahahahaha

no

>>165213674

It's totally different that BG (which I fucking love btw). Imagine the ships have no real critical points, yes main bats/torps can be destroyed, but this functionally never happens now that they've buffed the shit out their health (I actually can't remember the last time this happened to me). It's really all about citadels, which is the mid section of the ship right at the waterline(ish). No command or control areas or anything like that. It would make going nose in suicidal... you know like it was in reality.

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>>165211279
saw the image, then the song
i am confuse

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>>165213874
Well I'm asking because I legitimately don't know. I don't see how a bunch of 5' rounds impacting the superstructure would sink the ship.

>>165213961
Well I mean more for real sake. I understand why HE is effective from a gameplay standpoint.

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>average damage: 51k
>average tier 5
>can't win without /wowsg/
>45% solo win rate

my life is shit, please hold me

>>165213151
In my experience, secondaries on USN ships are kinda useless. Montana makes them work and so does Colorado (kinda), but NC and Iowa aren't so hot considering their tiers. However, with the exception of manly secondaries, they also overlap with the already lethal AA both ships get.

Krauts and Yamato are really where 2ndary builds shine.

>>165214359
git gud skrub

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>tfw thinking about killing myself if i can't increase my average damage to 52k tomorrow

>>165214217
Cmon anon put those critical thinking skills to use. How's a ship going to function if everyone above the waterline is kill?

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>>165214359
At least you'll play with Wowsg. I'm to afraid to play with people because I'm shit.

>>165214626
Wouldn't there still be plenty of men below the deck?

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>>165214627
this is why lurk, desu
and i have a 52% win rate (used to be 53%, but then i decided to do the stock grind on the Baltimore (absolute disgust))

What is best T7 and why is it the Myoko? 8k damage with a full salvo of HE, plus 2 fires is wonderful.

>>165214627
don't worry, that never stopped anyone else, none of the /wowsg/s I've met really care that much if you're a shitter, the only important thing is not being an insufferable faggot
when people complain about 'elitist unicums' not wanting to div with them, it's not because they have a low win rate or low average damage or something, it's just because they're unpleasant to play with and spend their time whining about not getting carried enough
might as well give it a shot, most of the people here are alright, you might even make some friends and get better at the game

>>165215075
most elitist unicums hate playing with /wowsg/ though

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>>165210664
>>165210734
>>165213531

now that I have her, Captain skills?

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>>165214627
We could always play
I'm not fantastic not gonna lie

>>165214758
So they can do what? Not see where the ship is going?

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AHHHHH MAKE IT STOP

Guess the boat.

>>165215340
O-Okay. I'm doing tier V-VI right now. We could be shitters together.

>>165215446
NC?

>>165215506

Correct? Really? How'd you know?

>>165215446
AA shooot downs had to american

>>165211279
>BBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP_-YIhgF3w

>Cleveland and HE CAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB6tJD5-z3o

>DDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx2FDyvt0gI

>North Carolina, Iowa and Montana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg9aQvjMS60

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when the enemy can't handle the commerce raiding

>>165215478
What's your IGN? We can play some games tomorrow
I've been grinding all day and I need a drink

>>165215137
having people they like playing with isn't the same as hating /wowsg/
do you just expect them to refuse to div with their friends on the off chance that someone else wants to play with them?

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>>165215681
Assuming youre not just shitposting

>massive number of plons shot down
>secondary gun memery
>only 53 direct hits

>>165215912
Randgris

>>165215782
I hope WG adds some kind of PvE mode where you raid commerce

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>SMS Scharnhorst
>SMS Gneisenau
Neat. Does anyone know if Deutschland had something else on her turrets?

>>165215938
>>only 53 direct hits

They really need to buff the NC's accuracy. She still is the worst preforming T8 BB.

>>165215176

BoS, EM, SI or Vigil, AFT, then CE.

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>>165215681
>>165215446
>hiding your name
Get fucked kiddo.

Stats-kun, run a check on North Carolinas with 110+ plane kills in the last 24 hours.

>>165216036
Nyet

>>165215915
excuses excuses FUCKING EXCUSES. hotel is always pretending to be afk until abrach or chain is on.

/wowsg/ is a community.. dont be greedy

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>>165216036
I think US BBs just need a buff to their secondaries to make them on par with IJN and Germany. I'm really worried what British and Russian BBs will do to the US tree.

>>165216237

Quite frankly I think all the T8's need a buff, especially the CA's. They should just allow them to mount all the mods like a T9-10 since they can see a T9 and 10. Like all the T8 CA's should get the healpot like the T9's do. The NO needs this badly, the NC needs that Accuracy mod, the Mogami needs the range mod for her 155's, and many many others would be more competitive at T8 if they could have the T9-10 stuff.

>>165216421
T6 should get T8 mods because they can meet T8 :3

>>165216421
Found the shitter.

CAs have been getting buffs for more than one year and you're demanding T8 cruisers that sees T6 ships to equip T9/T10 upgrades. Get the fuck out.

>>165216414
>I'm really worried what British and Russian BBs will do to the US tree.

Gut says the Brits are gona have INSANE alpha strike on their AP (since historically they used oversized bursting charges). And Russian BB's are gona probably be tanky as shit. Like neigh invulnerable.

When this happens they should just give the USN a little more accuracy, especially the NC. Yeah that accuracy buff a few months ago helped alot, but she needs a bit more tightening up on her spreed. The Amagi is just hands and feet better. More guns, better accuracy at all ranges (way better), not noticeably worse armor, and a bit faster. I'm fine with all that if they just gave the USN better accuracy. Even with the big hang time, I can live with that. My problem isn't missing completely due to bad leading, but having all my shots straddle the enemy on ever salvo.

>>165216586
>>165216479

What is the Atago? Or even the Kutz? Or the Edinburgh? All have T9 features on a T8, 2 out of the 3 have heal pots. They don't DESTROY the game at T6.

>>165215446
>be me
>play iowa
>CVs avoiding me like the plague
I wish I can meet retarded CVs like this.

SUMMONING

AYYBRACH

I'm halfway to Nagato. I'll probably have her tomorrow or the day after. What should I know going in?

>>165216707
>And Russian BB's are gona probably be tanky as shit. Like neigh invulnerable.
I imagine only 2 things coming from Russian BBs. Either they're glass cannons like their cruisers or they have a ton of HP but weak guns. Though it probably won't be either and they'll be the best line and have some stupid weakness like AA or secondaries that don't matter.

I'm just curious what they'll look like. Tier X Russian ships are already large so a Tier X Russian BB will be a floating fortress.

>>165216586
>>165216479

You go play a match in the NO against an enemy team with 2 Yamato's, 2 Zao's and a few Gearings to make life fun. You mean to tell me that you'd react the same to that, as you would being in say an Aoba against a team that has 3 NO's?

>>165216972
t. omato

>>165216332
>caring about some average shitter
is that the only 'unicum' you can think of?

>>165216964
don't judge her on her stock hull
keep her angled
don't snipe from the blueline

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>>165216332
>hotel still doesn't like me
>friends with Abrach and Chain

>>165216964
Free exp the stock hull.

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>>165217072
>don't snipe from the blueline
Nothing to worry there. I'm not that kind of player.

Should I reroll?

>>165216965

I'm not as worried. I usually only play 'real' ships so I'm only interested in the few IRN Ships early tree, especially the imperatritsa mariya (family reasons). As far as fighting them is concerned, I suspect they will be no more annoying than the Jap boats, same way that yeah the Moskva is a pain, but I'd rather fight a team of 3 Moskva's than 3 Zao's.

>>165211601
It's just a Iowa copy, granted a more Balans))))) Iowa XAXAXAXAXA

>>165217447
are you wanting to play on a different server?

What's your "peaceful" battle music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z9BmvPYTFY

>Fletcher spamming HE from smoke for the entire game
I fucking hate this shit. It does no damage, but lights me constant on fire which does the real damage, all I can do is run away which he just keeps spamming or I charge him and risk getting torp'd or lit on fire more. There's no fucking winning against this shit.

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Moral of the story, I should stop trying to play BBs I guess.

>>165218801
https://soundcloud.com/daveh90/lazerhawk-fight-to-the-top-cover

>>165217269
Who are you?
Despite what the shitposting here says, I really don't hate anyone. It's just that I'm already playing something like 20 games a day on average lately, and as much as I like botes I can only play so much. If I miss your invite it's not because I don't like you.

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>rush BB in DD
>his secondaries kill your torpedo tubes

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>>165219337

>>165218986
BB is the hardest class to get high WTR.

>>165219337
More like
>Rush DD in BB
>He scores 3 normal pen, instantly killing you.

>>165213402
>Selling Iowa

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>>165215075
>asks if anyone is running my tier
>*crickets.wav
>someone else asks if there is anyone wanting to run the same tier
>people perk up

>>165219740
Who are you?

>>165213953
I would assume he was speaking about some time before the across the board AA buff a few months back.

The one that made Texas' strongest aura go from 3.2-ish planes killed per second up to 6.2. If the 'one plane per second max per aura' wasn't a thing that is.

Otherwise if he was meaning since that point.

>I did a full AA build on my Monty once and was barely able to shoot a full torp squad down from the Midway, much less the other one plus 3 bombers that shat on me.
Hahahahahahahaha

no

>>165219834
The same person who's been asking in /vg/ chat for a division for the past two hours.

>>165219740
You can't worry about it too much, the chat servers are so fucking shitty that they may only see the new message and nothing else

>>165219740
my chat clears literally every time I come out of a game
so I can't see people saying anything most of the time

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>fault line five times in a row.

>>165219712
Well I appeared 2km from him and his guns were turned away so I was able to avoid that.

>>165220047
I liked Fault Line
Especially C alley fight

>>165218249
No, I just hate my WR and WTR.

What are some maps that work only with a certain game type and are shit with anything else?

>>165220614
Most map are shit in base defense mode

>>165219834
WHO WHO
WHO WHO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLIerfXuZ4

>>165220047
You should have played in the CBT.

Fault Line for Days. Hell, it was home to Tier X games as well. Yamatos trying to snipe each other from spawn, Shimakazes torping down the straits.

Good times.

>>165220761
Bastion and Epicenter fucking suck.

>>165220614

Trident is great with epicenter, shit with everything else.

>>165220821
epicenter is good on the lower tier maps
it's fucking terrible on tears though, because of the combination of it being a bad map for it and regular high tier cancer

>>165220832
I agree

>>165216707
Make the NC and Iowa more accurate.

And for the love of God fix Iowa's raised citadel, it is not supposed to be that high.

And maybe give back the maneuverability the USN BBs once had, like in the CBT.

This is all I ask for.

>>165219994
>>165219740

Do you know how to invite to a div when the chat is fucked?

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Good Night /wowsg/.

>>165220918
Add their names manually via contacts, then invite to division.

>do horribly
>best in team

really makes me sink

>>165220918
I don't like 'randomly' inviting people. I just ask every other game if anyone is running X tier.

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balanced btw

>>165221289
>only 195 secondary hits

good line ride dude :^)

>>165221289
>Using paint
You realize there's a folder that all scrennshots get saved right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2piJQYJdYCQ
>dem secondaries
>reminder that they removed two turrets in the 80s

>>165220501
don't do it anon
nobody takes reroll's stats seriously anyway

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>>165221289
>all that white space
That's silly. You're silly.

>>165221415
>failing for mako's shitty b8

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>>165221504
>>165221415
fixed 4u my babes

>>165221579
So [BOTES] is the official /wowsg/ clan?

I'll have to make it a point to sink you people.

>>165221651
Good luck I guess anon.
There's a reason they keep playing in statpadding divisions all the time.

>>165221768
Thank you. I shall endeavor heartily.

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They attract each other.

why are there 4 /vg/ channels?

>>165220908

Actually I can live with all that other shit. Leave the citadel high, keep the rudder slow, it just means I have to be smarter about my movements. But the abysmal accuracy is just crippling. I got the Monty awhile ago and recently played all the way up to the Yamato and I can see why so many Jap BB players hate the Izumo; it's the NC. I mean that's what it is. Basically if you play it like a slightly faster/heavier armored NC it's hardly noticeable the difference. It's because you come from the Nagato, a great boat with sniper accuracy, to the Amagi which is somehow even better, and then all of a sudden you get USN style gunnery. That's why everyone hates it. It can't shoot straight, made all the more painful as it follows up the Amagi.

I don't want the NC to have BETTER accuracy than the Amagi, but at least equal. Look at the Colorado. It was HORRIBLE, mostly because of it's accuracy, but now its more or less identical to the Nagato. Really, the T7 BB's might be the most balanced of all the tiers. I really don't feel gimped in a Colorado, or over powered in a Nagato, and other than the horrid dispersion at long range, the Gne preforms great. All they need to do is give the T8 USN BB the same treatment. It's already more or less the same as the Amagi (slightly inferior in most ways but not in ways that matter greatly), except the gun accuracy, which I feel is exactly what's holding it back.

>end of a match in a half dead Shiratsuyu vs a full health Graf Spee
>launch four sets of torpedoes wide from in smoke
>he dodges right through them and spots me due to the hydro I had no clue it had
>panic and run while firing back in a direction with zero island cover
>deal 35k and kill him while only taking 3-4k in return
Even a battleship would have ended me. I ended up just going broadside in a straight line 7km away and he kept missing due to the shit dispersion. Guess anti-DD isn't its forte.

>>165222213
Relics from a meme era.

Use the one made by antibullyranger. It may seem empty, but the list is bugged. There are people in there.

Reminder that HP_Lovesauce is a cancerous faggot.

WHY IS BASTION ON HOTSPOT

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO SUCH A GREAT MAP

WHY

Why are CVs making a comeback? Why can't they just stay dead like the fucking useless class they are.

>>165222635
A shitter isn't representative of what the ship is capable of.

>if specced right, the Graf Spee has the choice of 2x4 6km torps that go at 70kn or 7.2 @ 65
>70kn at tier 6

HOWLING

This is going to be fun

>>165222346
But you realize Iowa's citadel has been fucked up, thanks WG, for some time now? Bastards will never fix this issue most likely, I don't get much hopes for them doing anything in terms of buffs for any USN bote.

WoWS's premium time is the same as WoT's, right?

>>165223214
Premium time spans across all their games, yeah.

Having a year of premium almost makes me want to try out Tanks and see if it'd be any fun.

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That feeling when your entire team backseats you and calls you a retard for every little thing you do but win the game for them anyway.

>>165223783
Tell them they should be great full that you carried their salty asses

>>165223783
o7

>>165223145

Yes I know. But I can live with that. If I had to choose between a serious accuracy boost, and them give her the historical Citadel size, I'll choose the accuracy boost.

>>165223389
Don't play tanks

>>165224161
w-why not?

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>there are more than 146k players on SEA
I can't believe it.