/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

If they do move the good evergreen cards out of standard I'll stop playing.

>>165008169

That fat fuck needs to be raped, like he raped Hearthstone.

>>165008464
Define "good"
Every card has it's different uses and can be good or bad given the circumstances and the current meta.

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>>165008169
Threadly reminder that if you think Azure Drake should be rotated, I would politely disagree with you.

>>165008751
Shit like Drake thalmos rag auctioneer sylvanas etc.

cant wait for you renocucks to get BTFO when he rotates out

>>165008795
it doesnt matter what you think
it matters what ben brode thinks

>Powerful cards should be in expansions, not classic/basic set. So it's risky to buff cards from classic/basic set, because nobody will be playing new cards.

Reminder that by putting in the team to pick smart cards to rotate, you're also putting your faith in a team that designed spirit claws and Small Time Buccaneer

>>165008751
Stop with the happy-go-lucky attitude, senpai, there is a time and place to be positive, but this is neither.
The decision to fuck with standard cards is scummy because they specifically said they wouldn't do that.

>>165008751
>Every card has it's different uses and can be good or bad

No it can't.

>given the circumstances and the current meta

There's only one meta in Curvestone: play overpowered minions on curve. Whichever player misses a turn first, loses.

>>165009107
You are oversimplifying things.

>>165009063
Well, it's not like it's something we didn't think they'd do. We all knew Blizzard would sour on the classic set at some point, no matter what lies they told us. It was just a matter of waiting.

>>165009107
Timmys and Johnnys are more populous than Spikes.

Classic being evergreen was the first mistake

Now they are paying for it, everyone told them how stupid it was but hey, that's Team 5 for you

>>165009002
>>Powerful cards should be in expansions, not classic/basic set.

How about you fucking kill your worthless self Ben. Classic set should be the MOST powerful set precisely because it's the one people have most access to.

No, actually scratch that. Basic set should be the most powerful. Every card in Basic should be Fireball's power level. Then comes classic, and any flavor of the month expansions come dead last.

>>165004371
Whenever I watch my friend for the watch a friend quest, I get reminded how true this is.
And every time the RNG doesn't work completely in his favor, he starts spamming me messaged complaining about it.

>blizzcucks are mad they are balancing the old cards
fuck off retards

>>165009252
I agree. I kinda think basic should rotate out too.

>>165009228
>Well, it's not like it's something we didn't think they'd do. We all knew Blizzard would sour on the classic set at some point, no matter what lies they told us. It was just a matter of waiting.

That doesn't excuse them.
>Stop with the happy-go-lucky attitude, senpai, there is a time and place to be positive, but this is neither.
>Stop
STOP.

>>165009228
>Timmys and Johnnys are more populous than Spikes.

Sure, that's why when I play HS I don't see 98% Pirate Shaman and Pirate Warrior. I see tons of fun theme decks, and you know, people just having fun. That's the meta right now, fun decks with fun gimmicks. Not Turn One Buccaneer Patches at all.

>>165008751
Thalnos, Drake and Sylvanas.

Rag doesn't even see play right now and Auctioneer is the sole reason Rogue is playable at all.

>>165009381

One good way to do it is make a basic 2.0 with a stronger powerlevel so new players don't feel so behind having to play yetis against fully golded decks

>>165009361
they arent balancing anything you retard
and how are peeople that complaing about blizzard blizzcucks?

>>165009381

Let's just rotate every set out of Standard and shut down the whole format, it's not like it's fucking worth playing.

>tell your players the Classic set is forever
>realize a big part of meta decks are still Classic cards
>"powerful cards should be in expansions"
Mmhh really makes me think

>>165009381
The problem they made with the class identities is not just the same old cards, but the fact that individual characters represent the classes. Magic's color wheel represents whole swaths of creation, but in Hearthstone you always think "Well, I'm Rexxar."

>>165009285
>fireball
in light of usage statistics we found fireball to be underpriced, it now costs 5 mana bringing it more in line with other spells

>>165009470
>Rag doesn't even see play
yes he fucking does

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What did he mean by any of this shit?

Lets rotate out Ben and everyone else working on the game

Reminder that Kibler called out the non rotating classic set as a mistake the instant Standard was announced.

The game has too few cards, too few expansions, and too much of a pussy footing balance team to sustain a healthy standard environment.

They either need to go full rotation or no rotation. Going halfway with it is only causing problems.

Its really fucking sad when a gametype called wild (which was created so that blizzard doesnt have to balance their game) has more archetype variety than standard.

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Which should I pick?

Im leaning towards N'zoth since I have 4 good deathrattles, but heartharena says icehowl is better by 30 points

>>165009285
What the fuck are you guys talking about?
Brode is right.

>>165009808
Moroes is the obvious choice.

>>165009756
how about they stop catering the game to fucking streamers and people that play in tournaments?

hearthstone is bad because the people working on it are shit at designing the game and are trying to pretend its a real competitive game

fuck the streamers and fuck the developers they are the ones making the game worse

>>165009457
You are forgetting that the average player is Rank 20, anon, and I presume you are not. The average player is absolutely terrible at the game, just like any other video game. Go to your quest log and see what top percentage you are in. Now remember that all those people below you are so numerous. Just think for one moment and stop living in this echo chamber. The average player plays once a week and feels good getting the monthly card back. Don't be stupid.

>>165009808
>2 legos
reee

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Daily Reminder next big Hearthstone expansion will be Diablo or Starcraft or Overwatch or a mix of all related and you will all eat that shit up like Ben Brode's unprocessed placenta.

>>165009970
>Go to your quest log and see what top percentage you are in. Now remember that all those people below you are so numerous
its because blizzard counts inactive accounts

hearthstone has at least 50 million accounts

>>165010008
It happens if you use real money to enter the arena.

>>165009808
try and trade all of them in for an assassinate?

you already have plenty of lategame stuff that can actually kill your opponent, n'zoth is to unreliable for arena in a deck with that little deathrattles and moroes often ends up doing nothing

>>165009903
>how about they stop catering the game to fucking streamers and people that play in tournaments?
they arnt. They are catering to reddit.

see: Patron nerfs. something that the majority of "professional" players criticized.

>>165009756
Maybe if they actually put more thought into their filler cards and didn't brute force garbage like beast druid and dragon "curvestone" priest this wouldn't be a problem.

But hey, why put effort in when drones will pay 30 dollars for 50 cards with great ideas like a 3/2 vanilla taunt.

>>165009756
Although I agree with the spirit of your message, if you use your head and think about it, of course a format that has more cards would have more archetypes to play. That's just simple mathematics.

>>165010114
i did it yesterday and my deck was so shit i enden up 1-3
also everyone I played against got at least one lego

>>165010008
meh, lately I've found legendaries to be fairly mediocre as a pick in arena

to much chance for those highly specific legendaries that are worse than a common in arena

>>165009669

Thats some really cool. In MTG white can be goody two shoes kingdom or nazi-like machines in search of perfection but in HS everything always just feels so samey

>>165010145
>they arnt. They are catering to reddit.
no they arent, stop using reddit. as a boogeyman its a fucking scapegoat

they nerfed patron because blizzcon finals were coming up and they didnt want it dominating them

every decision done to hearthstone is purely financial, a way to screw players because they know they can get away with it

now they arent getting enough new players so want to screw old ones

>>165009002
>Powerful cards should be in expansions, not classic/basic set. So it's risky to buff cards from classic/basic set, because nobody will be playing new cards.
Honestly this wouldn't be this much of a problem if they fucking printed good cards in expansion. It would still be a problem and I would hate it to happen, but continue reading.
What fucking card did they print that can replace Drake? What fucking card draw did they print for Rogue after claiming that rogue class identity lies in card draw? What actually dangerous late game minion did they print that can replace Ragnaros?
It's not that those cards are great (they are), it's that they didn't print anything else great.

And that's the reason why aggro is so rampart. They printing insane 1 drops, good 2 drops, okay 3 drops and almost nothing good that could replace classic cards.

They want to remove good cards while not adding anything to replace them. What will stay? The OP shit from expansion. What is the OP shit from expansions? Fucking aggro and nothing but aggro. This is why this is a freaking awful idea on top of me not wanting to lose part of my collection that they said would be always standard. Even the loading screen tooltip says that classic and basic are always in standard.

>>165009727
He doesn't. Aggro doesn't run him. Renos stopped running him because he's a dead draw against aggro and doesn't help at all. Maybe Dragon priest and Midrange Shaman run him. Other decks that run him are barely competitive.

Rag is one of those legos that goes in and out of the meta regularly. The moment people start flooding the board, Rag stops seeing play in most decks. He's basically a anti-control/midrange tech lego.

>>165010363
ITT: anon writes a book

>>165010338
>every decision done to hearthstone is purely financial
This. The long time taken to nerf undertaker even though it was by Blizzard's own admission the most oppressive deck ever was purely to get as much money out of the player base.

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>>165010008
A draft I had a few months ago

>people think anything blizzard does is a good idea

NOTHING they have ever done has made the game better
EVERYTIME they do something the game gets worse
They are INCAPABLE of doing anything right because they are incompetent

The ONLY thing that was both a GOOD idea that also made them MONEY was the Welcome Bundle, that was the only addition that was fair to players and gave the game money, with no actual work going into it

>>165009756
While Kibler is right in regard to how healthy it's for the meta, he's absolutely wrong in how healthy it's for my wallet. I'm not a rich streamer faggot who can drop $200 on every expansion since I can't have a core collection on which I will build up further.

>>165010546
>jungle moonkin in arena
jesus how bad were your other picks

and only three 3-drops? damn

>>165010068
Nah it'll be "Hearthstone: Revenge of Kel'Thuzad!" And we'll get some incredible reprints like "Belcher of Sludge" 3 mana 3/5, summon a 1/2 sludgeling with taunt.

but the kicker will be a promo card at the next Hearthstone even, a Tracer promo card.

Then that will open the floodgates the some HotS tier cross franchise degeneracy

>>165010338
of course they are catering to reddit. It isnt a bogeyman. Its the simple truth. It isnt a simple coincidence that most communication from blizzard is done through reddit and how Brode follows most of his statements with "so I was looking at some reddit posts"

>they nerfed patron because blizzcon finals were coming up and they didnt want it dominating them
no, they nerfed patron because it was dominate on ladder for going on months and the fact that there was a very vocal hate campaign against it. Firebat, Thijis, Kibler, Savj, Reynad, and Lifecoach all were against the patron nerfs and pointed to blizzard nerfing to appease the casual player.

>>165010069
I'm sure I read they only counted players that connected during the month and maybe did some games, I don't remember.

>>165010837
If they are catering to reddit, why is reddit all up in arms with pitchforks criticizing Blizzshit constantly for a long time right now?

>>165010669
>I'm not a rich streamer faggot who can drop $200 on every expansion
That's how it is for literally every other card game

>>165010837
>of course they are catering to reddit.
No they arent because reddit/ is complaining about it to

fucking retard
>muh reddit.

keep falling for the meme and pretending this isnt about blizzard making more money from a game they know is dying

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is /hsg/ still just ~10 people using different devices pretending to be different posters?

>>165010689
Jungle moonkin can be pretty damn good in arena, I had a deck with 3 swipes + moonkin and it went 12-0

>>165010970
>That's how it is for literally every other card game
not every digital one, hearthstone is closer to a physical card game in prices than any video game CCG

but blizzdrones will excuse this because they like being fucked in the asshole because
>MUH NOSTALGIA
>DIABLO WOW STARCRAFT XD

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>>165011020
That would be a lot of work.

Are Blizzard actually retarded?


>8 months of Shamanstone
>Only hope is Standard since Shaman's classic cards mostly suck and it relies heavily on expansions
>Hahahahaha, we're nerfing/rotating out all good classic cards, so every class relies entirely on expansion cards

>>165010997
not him but wow you are dumb, no reading comprehension

>>165009851
>t. Brode

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>>165011020
I don't even play Hearthstone anymore. I only shitpost
>tfw you can quit Hearthstone but you can't quit /hsg/

>>165011020
>using different devices
You can just reset your IP dude.

>>165011020

People don't care enough for this game to do this

>>165010970
No, only physical TRADING card game.
Other DIGITAL card games are infinitely more generous than HS.
In fucking Weebshit you get 35 free packs just for starting to play the game. And you can easily reroll it as many times as you want until you get the best possible cards you want from those packs.

Why do you faggots always your the "it's that way in other card games" to excuse this bullshit, especially when it's not applicable?
You can resell your physical cards easily and the smarter and better player actually make money on it.
Every other digital card game isn't even close to the physical card game bullshit.

I picked up Hearthstone because it wasn't like physical card games.

>>165011318
That's what Brode would say

>>165010837
>no, they nerfed patron because it was dominate on ladder
No it wasn't. Patron in fact had a <50% winrate on ladder.

>>165010997
so you blindly say that im wrong while offering nothing in return. -Literally- not an argument

You have shown that you are unable to argue and that you are too retarded to understand whats going on

This is why nobody takes you seriously you complete child

>>165010964
reddit is always up in arms, and they always get their way

see: purify shitstorm and priest buffs, post naxx miracle nerfs, patron nerfs,

>>165011020
Well, thanks for believing that I'm not a lazy bastard.

>>165011127
yeh but in a deck with what looks like only wrath and starfire that can be a massive liability

things like hellfire hitting for 5 can just break your board right open

>>165011470
only when you consider all ranks in total. Naxx era miracle had a terrible winrate below rank 5ish and nobody is going to argue that it was balanced

http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/1057-warsong-commander-nerf-incoming

competitive environment isnt even listed and again, the hate campaign on reddit was far stronger than anything that professional players were saying.

>>165011470
except it dominated in tournaments, and blizzcon was around the corner

Man, if the next expansion doesn't solve at least some of HS problems Team 5 HQs will end up being stormed by reddit and burned down

This whole clown fiesta is amazing to watch

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>>165011321
>watch Hearthstone every day
>read about Hearthstone every day
>shitpost about Hearthstone every day
>bought 50 Hearthstone packs for Christmas
>haven't played Hearthstone in weeks
it's an abyssal kind of suffering.

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How much longer until Reno rotates out?

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>>165011965

>>165011965

I love so many games and play a lot of them

HS is not one of them, but there is just something special about following the shitpost that goes around it

>>165011321
>>165011965
>>165012279
>>165012309
Get out.

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>why yes I DO in fact play aggro. Im not some kind of uncultured savage who cannot appreciate the one TRUE way of playing Hearthstone. The SMorc that is.

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>>165012416

>>165012491
Is that a woman?

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>>165012228
>that glorious feeling when cucking some fat nerds winrate with a single card
I always imagine them slamming their keyboard while fighting back tears when their only gameplan is stopped right in its tracks. Its posts like yours that make me enjoy playing this game.

>>165012228
Pretty sure the left image is from some Menatplay gay porn.

>>165012672
I am seriously worried for the future if people are crying over a card game.

>>165012710
aggro players aren't picky, man. they just go with the flow.

it's the cuntrol players who have to sit around and contemplate their every action like they are some kind of ancient greek philosopher.

so what if someone likes cock? it's 2017 man.

>>165012631
gender is a social construct

>>165012980
I never said anything was wrong with it.
In fact they have good taste. Men at play has great porn.

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>Nerfing the only good classics so people buy more packs

>>165013483

>Wanting to play with the same cards forever

>>165013483
>I still want to lose to Leeroy Cold Blood Cold Blood in 2023

>>165013686
>only way to change up the meta is by killing good cards because team shit is too incompetent to make better cards
Sounds about right.

>>165013878
you have to be delusional to think this game will exist with sizable # of users after 2 years. it will be similar to d3 now. new player population is already nonexistent that is why they are moving towards a final monetization plan that extracts max profit from remaining players.

>>165013878
>2023
This game will be dead in 2 years.

>>165013894

Thats exactly why classic being evergreen is so fucking stupid, or do you play with the same cards forever, or we get powercreeped in the ass

why are there 10 mana cards if this game is intended to end on turn 5

>>165010970
>That's how it is for literally every other card game

That is not true at all. Hearthstone is the MOST EXPENSIVE digital card game of all BY FAR.

For comparison, I already have a full collection in Magic Duels and I have not paid a cent for it.

>>165014178

Man, HS having the Blizzard name attached is so bullshit

This game fucks the player in the ass constantly but because people still buy packs in mass executives just look at the numbers and say everything is just fine

>>165014097
>rotation hits
>I have literally 10 tgt cards
>somehow have to gather 10000 Gold to have enough cards to play
imagine being f2p if classic rotates out

>>165013483

I like how "balance the cards against each other" isn't even an option in Brode's diseased mind.

>>165014430
Imagine being a new player come Christmas 2017. You would have to buy 5 different types of packs (classic, whispers, gadgetzan, 2017 expansion #1 and #2) and 2 adventures to build a decent deck. Can he just buy classic packs? Nope, because Master Brode declared classic cards can't be "too good."

>>165014097
No. if they weren't this incompetent they wouldn't need to power creep anything since they still have rotations.

But that doesn't mean anything because Ben said they WANT power creep in order for people to buy new sets. He said he wants classic and basic to be objectively worse than expansions.

My suggestion is to basically make expansions slightly better than classic instead of nerfing and making classic worse than it is. It creates the same effect (stronger expansions compared to classic) but it doesn't fuck with people's existing collection.

Rotating classic is a bad idea for the player. A slightly staler meta is preferred over a game that would be probably as stale (it's team fucking 5 you're talking about) but would cost 2 times as much because now you don't have a core set and need to rebuy all your cards constantly.

>>165014430

I am f2p and I have all the important old gods and meme street cards plus expansions

If anything, most people don't have most of the important classic cards since there are so many auto-include leggos

>>165014603
But at least he knows that his classic set will be always there and he can build a core out of it. Unlike without it where he absolutely can't play f2p at all.

>>165014603
You're right, he should just be able to buy only classic packs and then play the same 3 decks for 5 years because the meta would never change

>>165014729
>But at least he knows that his classic set will be always there and he can build a core out of it.

No he can't. That's the point. You can't build a deck out of cards in Classic if the cards in Classic aren't strong enough to be actually used.

>>165014867
The only time the meta has been stale the last 2 years is when blizzard prints cancerous broken cards in expansions, not because of the classic set where they already nerfed anything that moved

>>165014867

The game being impossible to afford is a much more severe problem than "stale meta", especially when getting rid of Classic doesn't even solve the latter problem. The strongest cards in the game are already expansion cards. The reason meta is always stale is because Hearthstone is such a simplistic game that any "new" meta gets solved within 1-2 weeks (especially these days, when people are awakening to the realization that control decks will never be a thing again).

>>165014718
How long have you been playing? How many actually competitive decks do you have?
How many cards would you have if Blizzard also kept rotating out classic?

A non-rotating set allows you to start from somewhere and slowly catch up. Without it there is absolutely no way to catch up to anyone since expansions are too often and the moment you get the good cards from them, the expansion rotates out.

>>165014878
And without classic you don't have cards. Adventures rotate out long before most f2p player get all the cards they want. Only those that already have a big collection pre-standard can actually keep up with this bullshit. Removing even more cards from people's collection won' help at all.

At best they can get cards only for the top decks and play just them. No actual deck building and playing off meta because you can't justify crafting a card that won't make you competitive.

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>Complaining about cards in the classic set
>Released two overpowered 1 mana cards that are auto-include into every weapon class for the next 2 years

What did he mean by this

>>165015138

I have been playing for about 1 year and 8 months

I have all cards for miracle rogue, all cards for aggro shaman/warrior with the exception of patches, which I do have dust for it. I mostly play Reno Priest/Dragon priest, having all the leggos for it and I also play wild nzoth priest, again with all the leggos generally used in it

And even if they rotated it out classic I still would have most cards. I generally buy 60~70 packs each release which nets me all the commons, almost 2 of each rare and around 3 leggos with a good amount of dust to craft other stuff that I want

The problem for me was never new expansion releases, but trying to catch up with classic. Trying to balance getting new expansions while trying to fill classic which has a lot of cards, and a lot of auto-includes was awful. There is so many leggos that you need for a different array of decks

>>165015892

Ben Brode is demonstrating once again that he has no idea how his game works or what's happening in it or what its actual flaws and problems are.

>>165015892
Working as intended. :)

Overpowered cards are fine as long as people have to pay for them. :)

>>165010970
You could literally pay like 30 dollars and make THE best deck in pokemon when Night March was a thing. Not sure about now since night march just rotated though. MTG and Yugioh you could probably get by a FNM( because lets be real here, when your first couple years will be spent at a hobby store, not at tourneys) some pretty basic cards. Shit you could probably get some pretty good stuff for free because people are always happy to help someone new in their store because they love new blood.

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>>165015892
>What did he mean by this

>>165015892
>people have been complaining shaman has been too strong for close to a year
>we should nerf the classic set where shaman sucks so everyone has to rely completely on expansions where shaman is great

>got to draft deathwing
>die to mind Control
fugg

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>be ben brode
>release 4 good rogue cards in 4 expansions
>wonder why rogue decks are almost all classic cards
>nerf classic rogue cards

>>165017652
nerfing all the classic rogue cards will open up design space for us to add new powerful rogue cards

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Well, I didn't want to have fun anyway.

>>165018225

Deleting everyone's collections will add more design space for us to make everyone buy all their cards again.

>>165018553
I guarantee you there would be threads of reddit defending such a thing.

>>165017652
>>release 4 good rogue cards in 4 expansions
Oil
Pillager
...
...

>>165018891
Poisoned Blade.

>the Hearthstone dev team suddenly realise standard was a bad idea and they should have been focusing on each expansion being viable as a whole rather than stupidly rotating which classes were good

Why does team 5 even try to make deck arch types? Literally none of them work without 100% percent broken shit.
>jade anything is fucking garbage
>grimy goons buffing is just a fucking joke
>kazakus is just an auto include in reno decks cause he's op as shit
>dragon priest is just op shit played on curve
Why don't they just release cards and stop trying to force us to play their game if they're still going to print shit like small time buccaneer and patches?

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>>165019646

They're backpedaling so hard

I knew it would happen, but I wouldn't imagine it would happen so soon, can't wait for the shitshow that will ensue

>>165019987

B-beast druid is g-gonna happen right

>>165018891
Shadow Strike is okay.

>>165020223
Why did they even fucking make that card? Fucking trash

>>165020223

They're going to continue forcing beast druid and taunt warrior until they become the new Pirate Aggro. Expect Druid to get a one mana beast that freesummons a random beast as a battlecry.

>>165020879
what about taunt warrior
a 3/1 for 1 taunt with battlecry: gain health equal to your armor?

>>165019987
hotform was doing pretty well with jade rogue in legend

>>165020223
They don't release enough cards each expansion, honestly.

>Click Play game
>the wheel spins for 2 minutes
>instead of just putting me back to the menu it closes the entire fucking game

WHY the fuck

>>165021883
The HS Client is doing it for your own good

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Why do you continue forcing yourselves to play this shit game? Team 5 are some of the most incompetent, proud, and arrogant devs around. You know for a fact things are never getting better.

>>165022903
Why do you even care? It's not gonna stop you from playing pedoverse or whatever else you like to play.

>>165021668

This is one of the things that pisses me the most, they try to push archetypes while releasing like 9 cards for each class on each expansion

Can't wait for Stealth Rogue be the new meme

>>165022903
do people pushing shadowverse really have cognitive dissonance when it comes to card games

>>165023545
>Can't wait for Stealth Rogue be the new meme

If it ever does well, it will be nerfed to ground because "come to think of it, stealth is basically charge, just slower".

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>>165023224
I actually lurked and posted in these threads, back when they had more than 2 posts an hour. The current state of the game and threads is just sad.

>>165018891
undercity huckster and coin are all right

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There needs to be more worgen representation in art. I'm tired of humans, orcs, gnomes, and goblins.

>tfw renounced darkness into Druid fighting a warlock
>naturalized his drake making him at 10 cards
>he draws a card
>it's fucking Reno

Holy shit, is there any other better feeling, guys?

>>165023545
>we got 1(one) shaman murloc card
it's even worse when they split it between classes

>>165023638
Stealth is toxic design and those retards, the devs, will realise this once they push stealth rogue onto our throats.
And nerf perfectly fine rogue stealth cards printed before

>>165024097

They have absolutely no idea how to handle tribal cards

Look at murlocs, aside from classic there are barely any, but they still try to print one class murloc every now and them

So far the last few days, every single rogue I've played has relied on going all-in with vancleef on turns 3/4 and I literally can't answer it.

can't wait for based ben brode to remove this class from the game

>time for some rp
>have to waste 2 deck slots on freezing potion
Do they even have to print garbage cards that are filler? can't they just exist in the plane of noncollectable token cards

>>165024557
You have no Idea how risky turn 3/4 van cleef is

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>Well, lets just drop doomguard on an empty board while I have a full hand and I'm at 7 life, what could go wrong

>>165024746
yeah just save premium removal against rogue and lose to buccaneer turn 1, going in with rogue is easier than ever

>>165024557
Just use your early removal, dog.

>>165024775
Warlocks are masochist.

>>165024612
That's not even much of a filler card. It has a certain place and could fit into discount freeze mage decks easily.

>>165024848
Let me remind you he used to have stealth.
Now you can hex him on curve.

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>>165024968

I can't even

>>165024746
not at all, not against any decks anyone plays except reno mage maybe

>>165025859
>not against any decks anyone plays
then tech your deck against it you netdecking retarded faggot

>>165024557
Yeah, if you're a druid there is literally nothing you can do unless you run a mulch

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Why are murlocs a paladin thing, anyway? It sort of makes sense with Shaman since they fit the tribal sort of thing and there were plenty in WoW.

>>165025939
honestly rogue has become shaman with their 7 hex targets there's no point trying you just hope they don't draw it

>>165025998

Because Team 5 has no idea what to do with their, simple as that

>>165026169
what are those targets? I don't see anything that couldn't be done with your normal removals.

>>165025939
i'm not complaining about edwin retard. learn to read

>>165026369

their game*

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>>165026427
Didn't check which post you replied to, we cool, senpai?

Holy shit, Devolve turns 1 cost minions into higher minions? It happened twice to me. Had an imp turn into an Alex and another imp into Rhonin.

>mfw I curbstomped a shaman way early into a game because he gave me value

I need some help. I want to be able to see the remaining cards in my deck to the right, like Krip uses. I downloaded the heartharena mod, but it's not showing my deck to the right when in a match. Did i download the wrong mod or is there a setting i'm not seeing?

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How do you fuck up and make a concept as interesting as Dragons be so boring

>>165029057
hearthbabbies hate interesting mechanics

why is the community of this game so fucking soft

why is it that every single time the developers say anything stupid and the community rightfully gets angry you get all these "OMG GUYS PLZ B CONSIDERATE THEIR REAL PPL TOO!!!"
jesus fuck they're grown ass men

>>165029057
H-Hear!

>>165025998
>Why are murlocs a paladin thing, anyway?
A lot of the time the theme of the game doesn't match the actual mechanics. Anyfin is a strong enough card to keep the deck viable until it rotates out.

>>165029661

Not only that, they're grown ass men who get paid luxurious wages to do this one incredibly easy job that they constantly fuck up in and show no enthusiasm for.

Fuck, Brode is probably a millionaire from his bonuses already.

>>165028919
one bump before i go to bed, can anyone help me?

>>165028919
>>165030614
>I want to be able to see the remaining cards in my deck to the right, like Krip uses.
So you want an application that tracks what cards you have in your deck, like some sort of deck tracker if you will? I wonder if we have something like that in the OP.

>>165030614
>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/
It's in the op, you fool.

>>165030856
thanks dude, im a fucking moron

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epic

>>165030762
>>165030856
>>165031138
thanks guys sorry

>>165031376

eh, coding is hard

>>165031376
Blizzard is a small indie company with limited resources

>>165025998
Because T5 is a bunch of talentless hacks who assigns classes themes solely on a "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks"


Anyfin actually became a viable deck and they went on total damage control and just went back on loe stuff to be safe in msog so now the theme of the holy and noble warriors that protect the weak and needy is LE WACKY MURLOCS LOL THIS MURLOC BELIEVES HES A PALLY HOW ZANY IS THAT XD

>>165029661
>OMG GUYS PLZ B CONSIDERATE THEIR REAL PPL TOO!!!
that's how leddit works
stop posting this shit

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Based Ben Brode. Slaying whiny manchildren

>>165032523
The nerf point is pretty much 100% true though. Which cards have survived Blizzard's nerfs? I can think of Sylvie and Auctioneer and Auctioneer is pretty much off limits for 7,5 classes.

>>165032523
>we do intentionally make bad cards

Just casually admitting that he's terrible at his job. No big deal.

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I'm not sure Ben Brode actually deserves all the shit he gets.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not defending any of Team5's shitty design choices, rather I'm just wondering if Brode actually makes any meaningful decisions of if he's just a mouthpiece for the rest of the dev team.

>>165032928

To be safe, they all should be fired.

>>165032918
If they made 300 cards for an expansion, I could understand having some filler but they only make half of that. Slap "Give a random X +y/+y" on 10 random cards and call it a day. Pure laziness.

>>165032840

The Warsong is the big one that really marks them as the worst sort of people to run the game. EVERYONE agreed that it was nerfed too hard. A fucking community that never agrees on a single thing agreed on that. And people suggested possible nerfs before Blizzard released theirs, and every one of the suggestions was better than what Blizzard went with. It was insane how badly they handled it. Purify level insane.

Warsong Commander is to this day completely unused in anything. It will forever stay that way. There is no possible deck or meta or situation where it's worth using.

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>itt: armchair game developers who can code and market perfect everlasting game content

>>165012525
Arisa a shit. REMOV ELF.

>>165032918
In BBrode's mind having bad cards is a super good thing because it accentuates the good cards or some shit (and totally not because it dilutes the card pool and forces people to buy more packs to get the actual good cards)

>>165032928
His role is a bit akin to Ghostcrawler's back in wow, he's the face of the balance team and takes the shit so the rest of the team can work in peace

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>>165033190

>>165033190

Everybody in this thread would run the game better than these useless assholes. All they're good at is making up excuses for their laziness.

Fuck, they could just copy Magic cards and they'd have a way better game than they have now without having to do any actual work.

>>165033175
It wasn't nerfed too hard it was straight up removed. Like they made it into a strictly worse raid leader which is a bad card already.

They could have just entirely removed the text and it would have been the same. The worst part is their retarded no buffs ever policy.

>>165033364
>In BBrode's mind having bad cards is a super good thing because it accentuates the good cards or some shit (and totally not because it dilutes the card pool and forces people to buy more packs to get the actual good cards)

He's reusing the same excuses MaRo uses for Magic. They're extra dumb coming from his mouth because he's running a fully digital game where they can edit what cards do and can just tweak everything until perfect balance is achieved.

>>165033391
if it were up to the shitters in this thread and leddit then cards would get nerfed every day because some cucktrol kids died to 8 damage from hand. T5 is superior

>>165033675
Its Dariaverse: Heroes of Batscraft now

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>2x the attack
>2x the health
>2x the effect
>5x the cost
What did Blizzard mean by this?

>>165033706

Cards should be nerfed, not necessarily daily but WAY more often than Blizzard does. And they should also be buffed regularly, for every nerf there should be a buff elsewhere.

They should do monthly balance patches that come into effect at the same time ladder resets. They have tools that show which cards are used the most and least in winning decks; make use of them. Nerf the 10 strongest cards and buff the 10 weakest cards, every month. That's your non-stale meta.

Or was that talk about meta just an excuse to extort more money?

>>165034043

They meant one mana minions are broken.

>>165034043
I've tried so hard to make this card work but it just doesn't do anything questing and Edwin don't do better already

That being said i managed to get one concealed after having an auctioneer survive and it was completely hilarious
But any game this card wins you is a game you wouldve won anyway and probably in an easier manner with questings

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>>165034146
>They meant one mana minions are broken.
Well that's just adding insult to injury from the set that gave us both Small-Time and Patches.

>>165034060
I've said many times that every time a new expansion/adventure launches, blizzard should rotate specific cards that are either underperforming, or are being over represented. This would keep the meta far fresher than their annual clusterfuck, and would let them collect data to properly adjust problem cards while they're rotated out.

>>165034043
do you think that should cost 2 mana?

>>165034146
This

>>165034248
Patches isn't really broken except in shaymen where you can use it with a flame tongue for a no cost wolfrider

>>165034248
I'd actually argue that patches wouldn't be half the problem he is now if there was no small time.

Yeah patches is strong, but he's a legendary. Small time is every bit as strong as patches on top of being a powerful activator for patches when otherwise there are very few decent pirates that could activate patches on turn 1.

>>165034597
On top of that Patches' cost is irrelevant since if you're paying for him you're fucked so it makes no sense to add him to a 1 mana minions are broken.

For some reason T5 really likes snowballing 1 mana minions that break the rules of the game. 1 mana 1/3 with positive upsides are 4 stats for 1 mana which is beyond retarded, not even shaman's overloaded cards or "Can't attack" minions have such a crazy stat spread.

>>165034392

No, but Mana Wyrm should.

>>165034392
The math checks out.

Why the fuck are all these buff paladin cards epics?
I really don't want to waste so much dust on a meme deck, but can't seem to open them either

>>165034967
Buy more packs, goyim.

>>165034967
small time recruits isn't worth it trust me
marshalls sadly are so yeah you have to shell out sadly

>>165034043
2 X 2 X 2 = 8
So it really should be 8 mana

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>>165034043
>2x the attack
>2x the health
>costs infinitely more
What did Blizzard mean by this?

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aww

>>165036583
Initiating respond; [Hello Fellow Humans]

>>165036583
>Brode can't sleep because he ate too much ice cream
>Meanwhile there are people who can't sleep because their shelter was repossessed by a crooked financial system.
#justblizzthings

>>165036583
The best thing is that Ben replied on a thread /r/hearthstone mods seemed too "toxic" and deleted. Go see for yourself. Ben's profile links to these messages but the thread can't be found from the new submissions.

>>165029057
By putting enough useful dragons in the game that you can fill a deck with cards whose drawback is supposed to be 'its crap if you don't have other cards like this'

>>165029057
Dragon decks are boring as shit in general. Even murlocs are more interesting

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>>165029057

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>>165037252
fuck this card srsly

>>165036857
Pizza men must have thick skin.

I can't bring myself to rank up anymore. I'm rank 8 and I lost all my will to go further, even if my aim is only rank 5 as usual. The simple tought of hitting that "play" button disgusts me.

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What are your thoughts on Red Mana Wyrm in Miracle rogue? I replaced one SI Agent for it and I have to admit, it's pretty fun to use.

(I'm a mid rank shit lord that just started with bonus stars yesterday so I'm still stuck climbing).

>>165038898

I just don't like it as much as QA or VC because its health doesn't increase.

>>165034043
It means mana wyrm, like most 1 mana 1/3s is pretty broken.

>>165038898
strictly a win harder card, it won't win you any game you wouldn't have won with the usual suspects

>>165039643
retard

>>165039643
I don't think that's true at all
the wyrm can burst down anyone from a very high health while a pillager would only get in for 5

>>165039643
use it like an edwin/adventurer and just conceal it and smash with it on the next turn

>>165039719
no u
>>165039719
>>165040424
edwin and questings do the same and only cost 3 mana
a concealed questing that gets to have a big turn and swing one and isn't replied to is a won game and it's easier to drop and can be dropped earlier than the rmw
plus it's another high cost card in your deck that is a dead draw early on

Does HS just make anyone else mad? I just want to kill some time but always finish playing in a bad mood

>aggro is too easy to draw perfectly with and can beat anything turn 3-6 and there is like 5 variants all over ladder
>reno warlock beats all other control because it has the best cards and a combo finisher
>jade druid cannot lose against non-combo

what the fuck is the point of even playing if you aren't playing these decks, you wont get anywhere

>>165040678
questing grows much slower and is much easier to remove when dropped even concealed
the 6 health and the insane growth of the red wyrm is a huge plus

i'm not convinced it's better than questing but having played both I don't think it's much worse either

>>165041231
an early concealed questing can't be removed by anything except maybe hellfire and a questing dropped post turn 5 can easily be grown to 5-6 HP as well

5 mana is just too awkward to get a good turn in, shit even concealing it is turn 6

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>want to break from aggro/midranged/reno and try control
>remember jade druid

Even if they make weaker one drops and more quality 4-8 mana cost minions, do we actually want to deal with the disaster that is jade druid right now?

>>165041391
in my experience getting a good adventurer is generally more difficult than the many wyrm since it requires a higher investment to be useful and it's harder to get it to stick
also unlike the wyrm getting it to stick on the board doesn't win you the game on the spot

>>165041519
Jade druid will be even stronger when the rotation happens. Control meta will never happen, accept it.

>>165041519
reno-less control also loses to reno because kazakus is so balanced

>>165041613
Kazakus sucks dick without reno AND brann. Do not kid yourself.

>>165041669
every reno deck runs all three so what's your point?
point is renolock, mage and priest counter other control decks much harder than jade druid does

>>165041721
>this post

Holy shit, you do not know what you're talking about. Playing a 8/8, 9/9 into a 10/10 as early as turn 8 will absolutely murder any control deck. Reno and brann carry kazakus so incredibly hard and without them solia and lmao kruul will not be able to carry them. Priest will always fuck control with or without raza.

Also, no one runs Krull, and Solia is seeing much less play, so no they are not seeing that much play.

fire brode problem solved

>>165041823
what the hell are you going on about?
nobody runs solia or kruul but nobody but you brought them up
I assume you're trying to predict the next expansion meta with this post but nobody but you is talking about anything but the meta we're living in now

if you try to fatigue jade druid you will lose but many control decks can put on the pressure and beat them earlier

going by vicioussyndicate data the only two non-reno control decks in the meta are control warrior which loses about as hard to reno mage as jade druid (jade druid is slightly worse though) and anyfin paladin which loses considerably harder to reno mage than jade druid

but the more relevant point is there are many more reno decks in the meta than there are jade druids and they're the reason other control is unplayable in this meta, not the barely viable druid

Reno mage and reno priest cant beat jade druid
This is known matchup fact

>>165043109
reno priest has a better win rate against jade druid than control warrior has against reno priest
it's not as extreme with reno mage it's similar

Help me.

>>165043405
And?
Jade druid is still heavily favored against stalling control
Warlock has mountain giant which probably saves it

Every single fucking rogue I play against has both pillagers in hand on turn 4 and 5 and every fucking time I play rogue I NEVER draw it before turn 8 at the very least

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I'd play it.

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Hearthstone is still alive and well

Shaku is amazing

>>165044787
>Hearthstone is still alive and well
>alive
barely
>well
HAHAHAHAHA

This game will legit never be a good game as long as the degenerate amount of burst damage that is posible doesn't get down

As soon as you drop under 20 you can already start worrying about armoring or healing because you're already in risk of getting OTKd

>>165044813
I agree.

>>165044949

Even 28 health isn't safe against a lock

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There isn't a single fucking card I want to rotate out more than this. I'm so fucking tired of this stupid ass card. I'm so tired of coined golem, or golem into coined wolves.

Fucking shaman is the biggest sack of bullshit in the game.

>>165045084

>coined golem

that's a shit play 90% of the time

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>haven't logged in a week because I just don't like playing anymore
>pirates, jade, shaman, priest, not a single deck interests me or is enjoyable to play against
>ALMOST lost the Diablo cardback but I got it 20 minutes before the brawl ended
>before I would never have forgotten about brawl or doing quests
>my mind just doesn't care about it anymore at all
>also I stopped browsing /hsg/
>return today
>"hey guys were going to nerf into the ground the classic set!"

It is strange, I should be mad and concerned after hearing something like this, but I don't feel nothing.
Just the word "whatever" pops on my head.

Did I broke up with Hearthstone? I got over it?
I wanted to get Legend before the game died, but now I can't even be bothered to hoard gold.

>>165044397
heh, one of the few good user created cards I've seen
>>165045084
use removal dood

>>165045084
dies to buccaneer

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>>165045084
Shaman is the only class in the game.
There is literally 0 reasons to play other classes.

>tfw Shamanstone will last 2 standard rotations

>>165045210

It sounds like you're treating it like a normal game rather than an obsession.

>>165045210
Play Dragon Priest. It's fun.

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Don't you get it guys? They removed the "heroes of warcraft" subtitle. Why? So hearthstone won't be a little brother to warcraft. They have proven again and again they wanna move away from WC lore and make whacky expansions that have nothing to do with WC. So, what else is tied to wc in this game? Well, the heroes, but you could easily change them with alternate heroes. Thats why we had alternate heroes. Too ease you in on the thought that warrior class isn't a big bad orc, maybe warrior is also a shitty other blizzard character, maybe overwatch?
But there is still one problem: the classic set. Every powerfull card in there is a major character of WC or WoW. So what can you do? You nerf them or rotate them, so they don't see much play and they get overshadowed by all the crazy new cards and people finally forget this game once came out of world of warcraft.
Just to prove my theory, they had a diabolo brawl last week. They even made new cards for the brawl (cards they probably already have sitting around).
Remember this post when you log in your "tracer"(tm) deck and start dropping "diabolo 3"(tm) cards.

>>165045494
Alright.

>>165045494

I guess that explains the pigs on motorbikes.

>>165045210
didn't even bother with the brawl cardback lmao

>>165045084
Rememinder, they didnt nerf Golem or Trogg because
>These cards will rotate out soon

So instead they killed Rockbiter, a basic card that everyone has access to and will be around forever

>>165045494
They removed it because it didnt help the game anymore

Anyone that cares about Warcraft already plays hearthstone, the name at this point will just stop people that think warcraft is for nerds from playing

now all the jock types can say, yeah I play hearthstone

>>165045721
The part that really makes me hate them for this is that they fucking nerfed tuskar totemic too, so they fucking established precedent for nerfing shaman's problem cards, but no let's nerf a basic card and in the process make alakir pretty much unplayable too.

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>this card exists
>its EPIC
Post terrible card nobody saw ingame

>>165046325
I play with it in my Control Shaman, but I could very easily not play it. It's mostly for stories.

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>>165046325
>A brewmaster that needs to be combed
What in fuck's name were they thinking?

just got pyroblasted by a 1mana weapon feelsbadman

>>165046741
Don't even talk about this card. Let it disappear into the annals of disappointment.

>>165046325
Epics are supposed to be shit. Look at stuff like Kidnapper.

nothing quite like a good game of competitive rock paper scissors

>>165046741

If this was a 2 mana 3/3 or 2/4 it would be playable as fuck with a unique interaction

You play it on its own as a fat 2 drop, or you tempo it out with backstab or prep-spells, but then you have to return a minion to your hand as the draw back

But then, if you setup before hand, returning a minion is a good thing because of its battlecry, so you still lose tempo but gain board controll but the tempo is somewhat regained by a fat 2 drop

2/3 is just boring stats that make it virtually never worth playing over brewmaster

>>165045593

The quillboar are warcraft and have been since forever

>>165045494

>Warrior class isnt a big bad orc

Honestly Reinhardt being an alt hero for warrior would be based as fuck. Bring on the overwatch cards mang

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>>165047851
Go to /owg/, mang.

>>165047887

Im browing 2 generals at once, shitposting at light speed

We could replace armour up with BARRIER UP

Maybe cards from different games would push team 5 to actually come in with some new animations for the cards rather than reusing the same poison spit/fire wave effects they've used forever

The only problem is: how do you do alt-games as expansions? Do you mix them in with warcraft cards? Whats the theme?

Would be cool to see completely fantasy scenarios (Similar to MSoG) but using characters from outside warcraft too that match the setting

Imagine if they just slipped in overwatch heroes dressed up as warcraft gadgetzan gangsters to match the MSoG motif in this expansion

Or starcraft or diablo characters

>>165048119
Man, they're not even doing Warcraft justice in Hearthstone and you want them to poison the rest of the IPs.

>turn 1 8/8 edwin

nice fucking game blizzard

>>165047851

Overwatch OC time?

>Mei
>5 mana 2/8
>Characters hit by this minion are frozen.
>The first time this minion takes fatal damage, set health to 4.

>>165048346
Frozen enemies take double damage
And taunt because she's that fucking annoying

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FINALLY jesus christ, paladin and priest only left, anyone got some quick decks for them?

>>165048608
fun decks?
decks to climb?
farming golden portrait decks?
be more specific Anon

>>165048608
For Priest, Dragon, Reno, or even C'thun are all damned good this season. It might take a little while by virtue of the games being long, but your winrate should be fairly high.


For Paladin, go into Wild if you want to be quick about it. Plenty of cancer there for them, like our dear mysterious friend. Outside of that, I think his best deck is Dragons, myself.

>>165048724
Farming golden portrait ofc

>>165048346

>Tracer
>7 mana 8/5
>at the end of the turn restore this minion to full health.

>>165048843
Then just play some dragon priest with mindblasts and damage spells teched in.

>>165045190
Absolutely not. It can contest troggs, clerics, welps and small time bucs before they get out of hand.

>>165044397
Everyone would play it.

>>165049873

and then you have 1 mana for turn 2.

>>165048972
literally unplayable

>>165050045
And a 3/4 on board ready to attack.

>>165041519
Jade Druid is objectively shit, and if you blame It for the "disappearance" of control (even tough control is the 22% of the meta) you're fucking delusional.

What is killing non-Reno control are, you know, actually viable decks,like Reno decks in general, Miracle Rogue and Dragon Priest, all boasting good popularity and good matchups vs CW (Let's be real, That's the only non-Reno control deck that has a reason to exists).

I'm so sick of you cucktrol shitters blaming the state of the game to a 47% win rate deck played the 6% if the times.
Decks are allowed to have good matchups, even vs cucktrol, and considering that beating cucktrol is literally the only thing that Jade Druid is good at it's definitely not a problem

>>165049959
What if it was 3/3? It would have strong stats for a 2-mana minion, but that would be it.

>>165050256
Lets talk about the real issue with this meta that is that midrange is dead.

Handbuff was supposed to be the midrange deck but it's too slow to contest aggro and doesn't have enough value to beat Reno.

>>165050049

>Goons Deck

>12/9 minion that auto heals.

I'd give her charge but that's fucking broken.

>>165050325
Dragon Priest and Mid-jade shaman do exist tough.

The problem with this meta is that it's just too polarized.

On one hand you have Pirate decks that are just too efficient at dealing damage and feel awful to lose against, on the other hand you have insanely greedy Ronald mcDonald Reno decks that spout bullshit every single turn and feel awful to lose against.

Aggro needs to slow the fuck down and control needs to stop healing for 29 on turn 6.

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Dirty Rat a shit

>>165048608

Do paladin in Wild, make secret paladin or mid paladin.
Dragon priest in standard.

>>165050045
Better than falling behind immediately and losing from turn one out. And it's not like shaman has no one drops to follow up with. Trogg, buccaneer, spirit claws, maybe even Lightning bolt.

>>165036857
I hate having to use that trash site to find updates on the game from the devs. literally every post is either some fag streamer clip or circlejerking their intelligence over cherry picked comments being mean to brode.

>>165050950

What makes Secret Pally so good in Wild? Is it just Avenge?

>>165051207
Avenge, Muster for Battle and Shielded Minibot.

>>165051207
it has a playable two drop LMAO

>>165048346

>D.Va
>6 mana 4/7 taunt
>On your opponentsturn, all of your characters are immune except D.Va.

>>165051207
>>165051238
Also incidental cards like Shredder and Boom strengthen the curve.

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>>165052120
I keep getting fucked by Daria and Bats though. I thought Ramp was supposed to be good

>>165051207
it's not that great, pirates beat secret pally unless he has a perfect curve into belcher

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>>165036583
if he cant sleep then he CANT WAKE UP

>>165031376
At least it's a deathrattle card and the probably forgot that Death's Bite is a thing because lets pretend wild doesn't exist.
Earthbound Elemental triggers the"Spell damage" secret and it is completely unrelated to spell damage.

>>165051207
Lets see

I'll never tell
Shields up, red alert!
Reporting for reporting for reporting for duty
*mechanical sounds*
Tummy feels funny
Who am I? None of our business
Hehehe hahaha
Put your faith in the light
Literally fucking anything
I feast on the essence of your soul

Have you ever been on the receiving end of this?

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post MSG cards that you literally never saw being played (Arena or Constructed)

>>165032523
>Maybe you're intentionally exaggerating, but you can count 'em and it's not "almost all".

Okay, lets count them. Auctioneer. And... eh, auctioneer?

I literally don't know why people keep trading with thauurizzan it's much better to ignore it

Post your face when you queue up for a nice game of hearthstone and the first thing you hear is

>who goes thar?
>I am in charge now

Is there any way to play rogue without being a buyfag? I tried a face deck made of mostly basic cards and it only works half the time if the opponent doesn't have way better cards that do a shit ton of damage for no reason

>>165052876
>Let his combo become even easier to pull off by starting the turn with a 5/5 down
Looking forward to him getting tossed to the shitbin

>>165034597
0 mana 1/1 with charge that is an activator for other pirates will always be a problem. At least remove the fucking charge. Dealing with 2 minion on turn one is already a pain in the ass on it's own and basically no class except the clown class, aka Mage can deal with it. And even mage requires the RNG to be in its side to actually do it. One having 2 health makes it just worse.

>>165052978

Rogue can easy do it with weapon and backstab. Honestly not that oppressive. The problem is the whole package of 4 damage charge/spells and 5 damage weapons that come after.

>>165052978
Actually the thing is that dealing with a flame imp is already pretty oppressive but if said flame imp brings a weapon and a 1/1 with him then it gets ridiculous

>>165052721
commonly played after nerfs:
leeroy, flare, soulfire, execute, eaglehorn, uth
sometimes played after nerfs:
yogg, rockbiter, bgh, hunters mark

>>165052978
>Killing pirate minions with weapons
Great, help the warrior lower your even health quicker

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What did Team 5 mean with this?

why do you people keep riding Brode's wild ride?

don't you guys have any self respect at all?

>>165053485
Why is the Buccaneer in your pic missing his lantern

>>165053485

That beast tag tho

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>>165053485
hearthstone players have no clue about the potential this card holds. Dont be too quick to dismiss it because there are a lot of comboes you can do with it. For example you can houndmaster the board turn 4 giving you a strong midgame presence or you can also choose to use defender of argus buff and taunt 2 minions at the same time. The potential and true spirit of this card has yet to be unlocked.

t. Definately not Ben Brode

>>165052673
I think you already posted all of them.

>>165053514
i'm staying for the drama at this point