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Third strike is Jive speed up and with parries.
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>>164929554
turdstrike has limbs instead of stubs tho 2bfair
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>>164929625
the limbs in third strike are only good to build up meter
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>your favorite unga bunga button
What's her name?
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>>164929474
KUNZITE
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>>164929708
Balrogs st.hp after the patch. I nut everytime it Crush Counters
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Play BB, SFV, or GG w/me famalam
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What buy?
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Hey /fgg/, I asked this in the last thread, but I got no response so I'll try again. I'm trying to play Melty Blood for the first time, and I don't know how to set up the controls. This is my first time playing a fighting game on a PC, and I don't know what "Button 1", "Axis Y", etc. is supposed to correspond to on a keyboard. Btw, my keyboard is a laptop keyboard with no numpad.
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>>164929668
EH! EH EH EH YAY EH EH EH YA YA EH. *China Vox blares in the background*.
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>>164929905
Just play anime fighting games xD
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Street fighter 5 made Juri shit.
She's a terrible character
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>make dumb ass mistakes and hang yourself
>you opponent denies the runback

Now I'm only left with sodium
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>>164929905
It corresponds to those buttons ingame
>>164929979
kys
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pantyhose
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>>164929980

She's a perfect secondary character.

If you dont have a pocket shoto, use her.
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>>164929980
I thought she was mediocre in this like she was in IV
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>>164929708
it's not nearly as good as in sf4 but i love socking mofuggas in the face with HP (4 HP in jive)
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>>164930238
she just takes work. solid mid tier character tho
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>>164930017
What I mean is, how do I know what "button 1" is on my keyboard?
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>>164929905
Start on Up and press the key you want to correspond to that. It should move to the next one on input. As for which keys to make what command I have no idea since I find fighting games brutal to play on keyboard.

A is weak, B is Medium, C is heavy, D is guard/parry in Melty if that's what you're asking.
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What in the world are these Coop Cup casters talking about.
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S U M O S L A M
S U M O H E A D B U T T
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>>164930294
every time i get CC'd with this button i reel back
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how do I macro in fightcade? Or atleast map one function to multiple buttons?
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>>164930469
sucks that it's a knockdown CC, really hard to get anything off it midscreen
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Dizzy buffs when
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ITS BARELY ALIVE
STREET FIGHTER FIVE
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Why am I unable to jump out of or backdash out of a Gief spd after his vtrigger. It sucks me in, I hold up and i get grabbed. What is going on? Is this a season 2 thing?
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>>164930545
3S crossplay between all platforms when
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TEN NINE EIGHT SEVEN SIX
UPDATE THE GAME AND GET A ROOTKIT
FIVE FOUR THREE TWO ONE
UNINSTALL THE GAME BECAUSE ITS DONE
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I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIGHT BISON
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>>164929554
I just think that everything people find hype about 3S is a bunch of BS that very few characters in SFV have. Which kind of just proves Daigo's point. People want their character to have broken dumb shit.

If you can get the balance right with broken shit, the game would be a success. Woshige trying to make everything neutered isn't going well with a lot of the community.

Now that doesn't mean that bitch Chun Li shouldn't get nerfed. Nobody wants her kind of bullshit. I'm talking about shit like Ryu's denjin setup that can be an instant kill. Urien's unblockables, and Makoto's stun combo that is BS. All of these characters have broken shit that makes people love about their character.

Now you have people like Xian complaining about Urien's BS, instead of asking for Capcom to make Fang's shit more powerful.
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how to do sol badguy advanced combo 7? Specifically the two jumping dust part. The second one can't seem to come out, watched the preview and I don't know what im doing wrong.

I imagine to get it out after every 10th try but don't know what's going on kek
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>>164929708
my favorite button is whatever I CC the enemy akuma with after he ex dp's and I grow a full erection between when it starts and when it ends because it takes so long

its like being in a slowmotion orgasm, you know he's about to be so god damn fucked
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>>164930821
Then you look at how you have v-trigger and full bar so you can go ham, but you get too excited and mess up.
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>>164930810
manage*
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>>164930553
i think he is grabbing your prejump frames. if he keeps going for throws just throw out a 3 or 4 frame attack and interrupt

or stay away completely
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is SFV still a piece of shit game?
thinking about buying it to play with my new pc
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>>164930739
Jump in on him. Don't press buttons after Psycho Axe.

Knock him down

Beware of gimmicks
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>>164930349
>A is weak, B is Medium, C is heavy, D is guard/parry in Melty if that's what you're asking.

That's not what I mean, I know that at least. What I mean is, what does "Button 1", "Button 2", "Button 3", "Axis X (+)", "Axis Y (-)", etc. all mean? Where do these buttons all correspond to on a keyboard? I did what you said, selected "Up", and tried to press W to set that key as "Up", but nothing changed in the drop-down menu.
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>>164930930
Well apparently there's a glitch now where your Season 2 character will revert to Season 1 balance, so lmao.
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>playing fighting games off and on since 09
>was never good
>had that brief period of wins which was solely based on Sagat's overpowered bullshit from vanilla SFIV
>game after game
>character after character
>always shit
>always resolve to take these games seriously and make them my main hobby
>always fail after countless hours of practice
>finally had enough of this shit and snap SFV disc in half
>enjoying video games again
>still enjoying FG streams
>posted in old thread after it died
>fuck that shit bro typed too much to not at least get some hate
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>>164930904
i hate to admit it...
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>>164930793
see instead of nerfing characters i just want to have the tools to be on even footing with them, i don't care that people want broken stuff thats near impossible to deal with just as long as i do to.
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=818237752

PS4 faggots will never know the joys of playing this game
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>>164931101
there are other games that let you do that you know, where everyone has bullshit to abuse
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>>164931204
Okay

>>164931045
Lmao. When does it occur
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>>164931204
>another embarassing oversexualized fighting game for people to fap over instead of play

yeah i'm really missing out

on a side note what if they made an all male-only fighting game, i wonder how that would go over
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>>164930793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyQJ7XNQT68&feature=youtu.be&t=153
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>>164930997
Open the start menu and type game controllers.

click on setup usb gamepad and double click your controller. Now press a button to find out which is which.

Xinput was a mistake
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>>164931308
I don't know but it happened to PR Rog on stream, might be random.
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>>164931207
SFV has the best competition and therefore the most players. What's the point of playing a game that is dead?
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>>164931412
can only see it happening if they kept the old season 1 files for shit like USF4 where you could select different version of characters
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>>164931412
That is hilarious

>mfw I will literally never leave Bronze
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>>164931356
what is even the point of this post
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>>164931439
because you enjoy playing them? look at fightcade for proof
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does PC GG xrd revelator not have the massive online lobby I see jiyuna use?
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>>164931494
wanna play? i'm not great but i might be able to help you learn somethin

im in US north coast
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>>164931204

>all female cast

One of those
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>>164931473
They probably do keep the old balance files just in case they need to revert something if it breaks but there's probably an issue of the game reading the wrong files for some reason. Either way it's fucking stupid.
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>>164931583
Woah now, we can't be having fun and be good at games now. Make sure you riseup# and buy the season 2 pass to keep up with the hype d00d
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>>164931647
hol up
good hackers use it for shit like playing Season 1 mika in ranked?
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will anything happen to my cfn account if i keep alt f4ing whenever i vs a laura? i just cant be bothered playing that and it doesnt take me much time to get back into queue
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>>164931647
Wouldn't some trials completely break if they completely removed all of the S1 stuff?
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>>164931768
oh right, so that's why they kept the files

For trials since they are lazy to put new ones
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>>164931734
I mean, possibly, but if it's like SF4 there's a chance that you might crash the game by hitting with attacks that don't check out.

>>164931768
You know there is also that but I always forget about trials because lmao. It would be pretty funny if Capcom's lazy incompetence in not making new trials caused bugs like that.
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>>164931583
Some people just really enjoy the competition.
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>>164931758
stop being a fucking pussy

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s717/sh/8013f353-0714-48a2-9b28-7667399fd179/735241d8225a1b2e4092d208d2c30a74
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>>164931732
max hates SFV
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>>164931061
>>finally had enough of this shit and snap SFV disc in half
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>>164931889
Everyone hates SFV
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>>164931610
I don't mind playing but only the lord can help me and that's after I'm dead child.

Also I generally hate ranked so I don't play ot enough.
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>>164931061
you should play SFV, it's A LOT easier than SF4 ever was no joke
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>>164931926
i wish I could refund my sfv but I got it for free.
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>>164931852


t. laura main
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>>164931758
Pussy.
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>>164931942
You don't a video game you hate
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>>164931758
Maybe you could check her frame data and learn how to fight against her. Guaranteed that you're letting her get away with lots of unsafe/minus stuff.
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>>164932012
fuck no i don't play that dumb bitch. but instead of quitting out against her like a shitter i learned how to fight her, now i get immense satisfaction after i smash every dumbass who picks top tier
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>>164931207
don't get me wrong im not saying thats what i want, i was only commenting on what >>164930793 said. honestly i prefer the game to be balanced and not have bullshit. for instance my main is karin a lot of people were pissed at her nerfs but i was ok with them i just have to learn to utilize her weapons in a new way. i love how the game changes and as the game progresses you can't just get complacent.

i was only saying that in a hypothetical world where broken shit was what people wanted this is how i would want it done.
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>>164931980
its been snapped
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>>164932056

i already know how to fight her it doesnt remove the fact u have to make guesses still

talk to me when u get diamond kid
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>>164932165
>u have to make guesses still

Like against every character in one way or another.

>talk to me when u get diamond kid

Post a video of you losing to Laura
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>>164932165
i refuse to believe a diamond player is a big enough bitch to actually alt f4 against a certain character. if its true, you are pathetic and i assume you play urien cammy or ken and complain about lauras still
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>>164931204
>background of character select is literally the wrestling stage from ttt2.
>LoL champs are characters.
>SF4 loading screen
Well, it is chinese.
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>>164932038
うぁtぢぢょうじゅstかllめふぁっごt?
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>>164932106
That's basically what Daigo said. It's not his opinion that matters, it's that people prefer broken games or rather games that make your character feel strong. That's the history of competitive fighting games.

For example, he thinks personally that Super SF2 is the more balanced and polished game, but the playerbase loved ST despite it having more bugs. It was the faster game with more BS.

Vampire Hunter was popular because every character had so much BS. 3S has a lot of BS and people love that game more compared to the patched version that came right after. It's not a coincidence that people find Urien in SFV fun.

If Capcom can find a way to just buff characters, but at the same time achieve a great balance, it would be more popular than the current SFV.
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what the fuck is the 3s tournament

why cant they stick on 1 screen
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>>164932364
playoffs = 1v1 only, anchor of each team
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>>164932364
べかうせてぇれいsぃけ10おrそてあmspぁいんgあってぇさめちめ
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>>164932425
Just finished translated this and you're disgusting.
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Late night PSN XrdR anyone? U.S. west
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>>164931991
sell it to a nigger/spic
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is there a single Ibuki that knows how to do anything besides crossup attempt into lp mp hp command grab over and over and over

and over and over and over
then they throw ex kunais to try and catch you walking forward

then they do lp mp hp command grab over and over and over and over

i don't even lose to it, in fact i win against every ibuki i fight but im still fucking mad when i win. what kind of character is that
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>>164932582
Sure, I'll play. It's been quite some time
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>>164932350
honestly i think the bigger issue isn't that people want their characters to feel strong its that losing hurts, and the skill levels of most players especially in sf is low. a lot of people aren't willing to learn or don't have what it takes so they rely on gimmicks its no coincidence that everyone gravitates towards shotos because its well known they are good for beginners but still top tier.

if the community was more high level we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now, i think what needs to happen isn't nerfs its encouraging playing better and being open minded and actively trying to learn how to play fighting games because honestly like 90% of the people that play are bronze. thats a really telling statistic i think.
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I wish sfv copied the 3S aesthetic (I think that's the right word). I really like the "feel" of the game. Never played it seriously though.
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>>164932415
i dont know what this means
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>>164932634
more fun then zangiefs that crouch jab all day
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>>164932779

shut the fuck up lmao
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>>164932784
it's a team tournament 5v5, but they have reached the playoff stage where it's 1v1
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>>164932634
She's a mixup character in a game where jab shuts down half her shit and the other half is the predictable shit you're seeing.

At least be happy her buffs weren't enough to save her from the bottom quarter of the cast.
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>>164932765
probably why they removed invincibilities and such. not as much hand holding

i dunno i like season 2 quite a bit, my gameplay has been escalating greatly now that i don't get cheesed out as much by absolutely random shit from people that have 2000 points less than i do
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>>164932634
This is pretty much how i feel about SF5 in general, every character plays like this and i just feel annoyed even when i win.
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What can I do in SFV when my opponent is being aggressive and all I can do is block?
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>>164932850
so if its 1v1 why cant they stay on the same screen
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>>164932949
Block
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>>164932587
Was that an offer?
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>>164932949
You're losing the neutral. Bully or be bullied.
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>>164932970
because the game is over, so they go to the next one
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>>164932972
But I'm already blocking. Do I just stand there and take it?
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>>164932891
nah just ibukis in my opinion. and nash except that fucker has been absolutely abandoned without remorse, I have been playing a shitload since the patch and i haven't seen a SINGLE one

>tfw season 1 nash gets a lp mp scythe into ca and you can practically feel the smug grin of the nash player, as if they pulled of the sickest fucking combo ever concocted
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>>164933037
You wait for your turn
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Dear god how does GG even work
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>>164932949
You are just not taking your turn when your opponent ends his blockstring. You need to know when is it your turn to jab, dash/backdash, etc.
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>>164933004
I'm offering you the unique opportunity to sell something to a black man or a wetback if you can get them to turn off the leaf blower long enough to explain what SFV is.
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>>164932949
Block and wait for your turn
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>>164933101

airdash and mash
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>>164933037
Your opponent is going to do blockstrings to keep the pressure on. He can't do this safely for long and if they keep attacking then there will be gaps in their strings. You have to find the gap in the string and use it to either reset to neutral or attack back.
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>>164932949
SFV is a game about being aggressive as fuck, if your opponent is going all out on you then you've fucked up already.
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>>164933101
follow these videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNKMCOU9_Po&list=PLj34EySs1IeZ8GpjKW8R2T6dzI6B3GSuH&index=1
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>>164932739
Lol nvm I can't find my converter
GG no re fgg
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>>164933101
>ten
>teen
>teeen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq01SLa6tFg
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>>164929474
mooooooommy
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>>164932949
post a vid or post cfn and what match you were having trouble with for replay viewing. at some point your opponent gets pushed back by their blocked normals and they are far away enough that they have to advance on you again. find what they do that is unsafe and punish it. or use invincibles/armored ex moves to get through shit if you are having trouble interrupting
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>>164932949
Anti air, im sure that is your problem
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>>164933130
Yes

>>164933197
Thx. I started messing with Jam again and my mind was frazzled.

>>164933206
You say gg, but it was bg

>>164933216
>MOTYAY
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is 3s the melee of street fighter?
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>>164933116
So then you wanna buy it?
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>tired of sfv, played it too much.
>order guilty gear. Get my ass beat for a few weeks.
>load up sfv on a whim
>go up 1000 lp within the day

Rise up
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>>164933542
its certainly a lot more interesting and 'wild'
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>>164933542
Yes
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>>164933168
>You have to find the gap in the string and use it to either reset to neutral or attack back.
How does one know what this gap is? Is there some sort of universal tell or are they all different for each character?

>>164933280
>far away enough that they have to advance on you again
So is this the usual right time to start a counterattack? I'm fairly new so I don't know the unsafe moves of every character in SFV.
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>>164933542
No since 3s was never alive in the west, people played CvS2/MvC2 over it
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>>164933551
>them
>SO ITS YOU?!

Turn off the blower, Jorge. The fumes are scrambling your brain.
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>>164933631
FRAME DATA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gtklnzge00

just watch some more beginner videos
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>>164933631
generally speaking, light moves are extremely safe, medium are pretty safe or neutral on block, and heavy attacks are neutral or slightly negative on block. most special moves are negative on block, so if a character ends a few attacks with a fireball or something, thats your time to start advancing a bit. i have nothing to do atm so if you'd like me to show you in a lounge i can, if our connection is good
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>>164933215
He at least has some logic going
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>>164933717
I think you might be the one on the fumes.
Calm down and take a moment before you sperg out.
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>>164933802
well I don't think japanese had the concept of number characters
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damn 3s seems pretty fun
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>>164933721
Already watched this.

So do pros have every single character's frame data memorized and know the exact moment when to strike while blocking?

>>164933730
My connection is terrible atm, hence why I'm not practicing in casual and asking for advice here.

I'm also just watching random youtube vids of pro players to get the idea of how pros play.
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>>164933921
low level 3s is extremely fun
intermediate level 3s is extremely irritating (if you don't play top tier)
high level 3s doesn't exist unless you're over 35 years old
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>>164933865
Well I think you might be on the fumes.

You should calm down and take a moment before you sperg out harder.
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Is top 8 in Coop Cup already?
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>>164933936
Pros general know or understand most characters in the game, particularly how their main character matches up against the rest of the cast.

For example, they go up against character A well and knowing that character A has certain moves that beat out his main's normal moves, so he knows he can't use those moves a majority of the time unless it's safe to do so. Knowledge about the different matchups is the primary factor.
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>>164933721
i've been playing fgs for a long ass time but this video was a splendid refresher
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>>164933936
You don't actually need to remember frame data. What matters is knowing your and their options in different situations, and frame data is just what dictates it. It's enough to know "when I block this move, I can punish with this combo", or "when I block this move, I can put out a jab to interrupt their pressure", instead of remembering a move is -4 or -5 or whatever.
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>>164933936
>So do pros have every single character's frame data memorized and know the exact moment when to strike while blocking?
No because for most moves it's obvious if they are safe or unsafe, so it's really just about learning the ambiguous ones. Also, part of the higher level mindgame comes from the opponent knowing when the blockstring is unsafe then doing something different instead. For exemple, say my blockstring is cr.LK, st.MP, cr.MK, where cr.MK is unsafe. If I know that my opponent knows that cr.MK is unsafe and that he's waiting for it, I might just do cr.LK, st.MP, walk forward and throw.
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>>164933983
isnt this tournament intermediate?
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>>164934204
nah its high level it's japanese OGs and a few gods
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>>164933936
this is good info>>164934118

but its not just limited to pros, after you commit and play long enough, you'll remember and learn which moves are safe and unsafe. you don't need to know the plus or minus of every single normal and special in the game, just basically which moves are unsafe or negative on block enough that you can punish them with your own moves. every single character has at minimum a 4 frame normal that can be comboed into a special, so thats a good start. moves enemies use that are atleast -4 on block can usually be punished (if you're close enough) so just research common ones for characters you keep running against in matches online
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>>164934204
>isnt this tournament intermediate?

this tournament is pretty much all the best 3s players on the planet
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This is Zhi on the mic right?
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>>164934415
But our guy Bafael isn't there
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>>164934464
bafael is one of the best bros on the planet, not so sure about 3s consider he's like 15
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>when people 1 and done after a loss
>while playing top tier

ebin
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3s is the smash 64 of street fighter
sf4 is melee
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Get rid of crush counters
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>>164934720
Learn to block instead of mashing jab/throw/dp.
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>>164934720
no
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CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
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I'm liking KI but I am just wondering why does everyone have a boner for hisako? She is fucking creepy
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>>164934705
>fucking around with pocket characters in Casual matches
>go against a guy with 2000 more points than me playing his level 45 Urien
>beat him with my level 9 Alex
>ends battle immediately after first match

I love it more than winning honestly
>>
>>164934193
>>164934194
>>164934307
kk thank you. I understand now.
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>>164934825
Everyone busy watching the superior SF.
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>>164934825
Good job, now post Guilty gear and Killer Instinct viewers.
>>
Every time someone talks about KI I get mad because of the shit I went through just to be able to play then the fucking it gave my fight stick's drivers.
Fuck you m$
Fuck you PC KI posters, making me jealous
>>
>>164934825
>try to make le big esports game
>make it the most boring game imaginable

really makes you think
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>>164934825
Portal 2??? Why???
>>
>>164934840
The creepyness is part of her charm, since there are so many generic "perfect" girls in plenty of games, Hisako is unique
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>>164934936
>>164934898
I took that pic after two guys with 1000 and 500 viewers respectively stopped streaming and didn't host someone else playing their game. I've followed a few small games before and hosting people when you're finished streaming is just what you do, to help people find others in the scene. Do fgc people think they're too good for that, is it too much of an independent hobby?
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>>164934936
lol

>>164935050
Jiyuna host other people all the time, I think Aris does it too? Depends on the streamer I guess.
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>>164934936
Killer Instinct is at 10, but GG is at almost 1,000.
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>>164935050
most fgc game viewers know who all the streamers are, so there isn't really a reason to pass your viewers on to someone else. if floe or justin stop streaming, i'll just go find pr rog or infexious' stream
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>>164935170
Why not host for the 20-30% of people who don't know. I just started playing fighting games after getting sfv in the winter sale and i've just stopped watching any sf on twitch instead of being lead to another streamer. It's just good for the scene to do it, and takes literally zero effort.
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>>164935146
>Xrd and Shadowverse both higher than SFV
LMAOOOOOOO
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>>164935242
i dont fucking know man. just search someone up, why do you need a streamer to tell you who is online
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so what was the main complaint of 3s
>>
>>164935242
Depends on the streamer I guess, sometimes they just don't really bother.
>>
>>164935259
What's Shadowverse?
>>
>>164935345
half the cast being poopoo
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>>164935242
It's not part of the FGC culture so I guess they just don't think about it.
>>
Which is worse:
V-Trigger or Crush counters?
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>>164935315
Because i don't know who anyone is. And it's more of an observation that certain pros give zero fucks about the scene.
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>>164935375
thats the same for every game
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>>164935423
Pros always give zero fucks about the scene, they're in it for the money.
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>>164935447
The low tier in other games will have a bunch of 4-6 matchups and a few 3-7. The low tiers in 3S have a bunch of 3-7 matchups and a few 2-8
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>>164935423
>i don't know who anyone in the fgc is
>most pros in the fgc don't give a fuck about the scene

???????

>>164935345
only 4 characters were worth a shit
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>>164935345
no zoning thanks to parry, AA = kek
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>>164935392
Both are good mechanics
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>>164935371
Fudo's new game
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>>164935371
A card game that's more popular than SFV and has a lot of top FGC players playing it, so people meme that it's going to kill SFV. Fuudo was playing it the other day on BeasTV
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>tfw to intelligent to play sfv

Back to Guilty Gear I go...
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>>164935259
And when that one guy with 800 viewers stops streaming Xrd what happens?
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>>164935392
V-reversals, they are useless right now. I think V-reversals should beat throw.
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>>164935392
some of the vtriggers could be changed, but on the whole i think they are fine. and i like crush counters, i don't understand why people bitch about them so much
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>>164935545
why is crush counter good?

Vtrigger is nothing new as a concept
>>
>>164935607
>>164935558
>Card game

I wanna try to get into one I think. I miss Yugioh's rng bullshit

>>164935675
The same thing that makes Fatal counters good
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>>164935653
hmm that'd be cool, i think v reversals should basically shoot both characters apart and reset neutral completely
>>
>>164935650
>Actually being this defensive
Everyone knows it's high because one popular stream is on dumbass. Do you think people making fun of SFV because 3S currently has more views are serious?
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>tfw too low iq for GG
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Is this going to be a mistake?
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>>164935754
There's more Lolis than there is RNG.
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>>164935754
>I miss Yugioh's rng bullshit
Play Shadowverse and pick Shadowcraft. It's free on Steam and really generous.
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>>164935772
Do me a favor and don't ever talk to me again. Fucking goober.
>>
>>164935784
How are you supposed to tell the difference?
>>
>>164935970
i think that's the point of the image
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Why the hell does this general keep mentioning Shawdowverse? Its just a cheap flavor of the month Hearthstone ripoff.

Oh yeah, and not a fighting game.
>>
>>164935919
>that card effect
Is that basically special summoning monsters?

Is there an OTK meta yet?

How often will I watch my opponent play Solitaire?
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>>164936121
It's more of a fighting game than SFV
>>
>>164936121
>Capcucks are getting scared that the superior game is gaining popularity
>>
>>164936121
It's better than Hearthstone. Putting a card game on pc just necessarily looks similar to hearthstone because you can't really have instants without it playign really janky.
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>>164936154
>How often will I watch my opponent play Solitaire?
That actually used to be a deck in the meta before the recent expansion.
Essentially runecraft would just try and reduce the cost of two cards, one is a 7/7 and another is a spell that skips the opponents turn then try to OTK them on turn 8 or 9.
>>
>>164936154
One of the deck types is setting up a card called Dimension Shift which skips the opponents turn. So that's pretty much solitaire. The balance is pretty good in general though.
>>
>>164935970
You're not, it's supposed to be a 50/50
>>
3s sucks lmao
>>
this isnt the alex trailer....
>>
>>164935784
can we see this in motion
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>>164935760
>i think v reversals should basically shoot both characters apart and reset neutral completely

I thought that was the idea behind it. It would make the attacker ease a bit on the offensive because of the grey health and give room for the defender to breathe while for the cost of a vtrigger.
Maybe make it so the player on the offensive gets a slight advantage if he gives away his offensive to read a v-reversal.
>>
tfw u guess right against urien
tfw u guess right again
tfw u guess right again
tfw u guess right again
tfw u guess right again
tfw u guess wrong and lose
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>>164936223
>Putting a card game on pc just necessarily looks similar to hearthstone because you can't really have instants without it playign really janky.
Janky becuase of having a dialogue box that 'Do you want to respond to this play/effect' every time?
>>
>>164935784
If you faultless defense the first hit it will push most characters out of range of the low. The first hit of each has different frame properties as well so you can jab out of the high.
>>
>>164935784
this character looks cool af
id chose him if i played goobers
>>
>>164936740
They fucked it up bro. Thats a little girl.
>>
>>164936740
>him
lol
>>
>>164936529
t. LTG
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>>164936657
except its an instant


so u can play it whenever the fuck you want

eternal dialogue box
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>>164930997
You need to select your keyboard in the top left where there is "-None-"
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>>164936740
it's a women in a mecha
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>>164936658
5K only has one hit.
But it's a bait image anyway because it's balanced with how the character works, don't bother replying to shitposters
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>>164936750
>>164936751
how is that a girl
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>momo wearing a momo shirt

uh bruh dont do that
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>>164936840
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>>164936840
Same way D.Va isn't a pink bunny mech.
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>>164936840
In the Guilty Gear lore, Koreans became a race that when they go into marriage, the man puts the woman inside her to live inside.
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>>164936927
I always thought she was unsheathing a katana but shes just moving a lever thats really fucking long, goddamn that looks dumb wtf
>>
>>164936927
>draw a huge guy with an old ass manly beard
>LMAO its a grill guise

wew lad

i kinda like it
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>>164936927
>>164936928
>>164936939
That's... really stupid. Why not just make it a normal guy?
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>>164934936
b-but ki and gg
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
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>>164937029
I mean this is the same series that had Bridget. >>164937047
Guilty Gear does not take its lore very seriously.
>>
>>164937047
Where is the fun in making it a normal guy
>>
is gouken a girl?
>>
>>164937047
Then how do I masturbate.

You calling me gay or something?

I'll fuck you up faggot, I ain't a homo like you bitch tits.
>>
>>164936757

ltg plays urien
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>>164935970
the overhead is two hits
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>>164937113
you fapping to a robot?
>>
>>164937091
Bridget is just some gay shit, this character actually looks interesting.
>>
>>164937185
Bridget is fun as fuck to play even if he is some gay shit.
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>>164937047
I assume they went with the "Throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks" mindset since it's worked well for them in the past, it just didn't work this time.

>>164937091
Yeah but Bridget is one of the most popular character in the series, popularized a subculture in the west and has a 4chan style named after him, while no one gives a fuck about Kum.
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Rikuo for MvC Infinite!

#FISHBOYS
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Come at me, faggots.

You scared I'll beat your ass and steal your girl?
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are the background animations for the stages 60 fps?
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>>164929708
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>>164937557
Assuming you're talking about SFV, no, they're 30 fps
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>>164937557
Yes, but only in games that aren't shit.
>>
>>164936251
>>164936254
Just did the tutorial. Still in storymodo so I guess I'll pick Shadowcraft
>>
>>164937557
Not in SFV
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>>164937591
no, third strike
>>
>>164934705

>implying you weren't teleporting fullscreen into memes
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sfv >>>>>>> 3s

let's be honest 2bh
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>>164937891
sfv = 3s
terrible games
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>>164937891
sfv still need to improve
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>>164937860
>mfw people tell me i have good internet for a canadian
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>>164936206
>>164936178

Oh so its shitposter meme, carry on.
>>
>>164937959
Okay real talk, I'm new to the FG scene

Is hating SFV a meme or does everyone actually hate it? I know it had a shitty launch but I've heard it's gotten better.
>>
Guile is cheap as fuck S2
>>
>>164937891
SFV > 3S > SFIV
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>>164938026
>Is hating SFV a meme
No

>does everyone actually hate it?
No

Different people have different opinion
>>
So now that online kens have been replaced by online akumas, how do you punish their retarded shit?
>>
>>164938026
nothing has changed between launch and season 2

the game is still the same, stubby normals and no neutral
>>
>>164938026

>Is hating SFV a meme or does everyone actually hate it?

Little column A, little column B.

It mostly other fighting game fans smelling blood in the water since they have always resented Capcom games being the premier game in the competitive scene.
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>>164932634
this is what sf5 reduced her to, blame peter "combofiend" rosas
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>>164938026
SFV has like a list of a hundred problems and they haven't really fixed anything since launch.

Instead of actually fixing anything, we just got this golden tweet.
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>>164938096

Same way you punish any shoto, except now if you fuck up you are in for even more of a world of hurt.
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>>164938125
The game sold 5 millions less than vanilla SF4 did, that has nothing to do with other games' fanbases.
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3s would be so much better without the whiff normals to build meter shit
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>>164937891
3S > USF4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SFV
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>>164938026
The real vitriolic hate is memes for the most part. A lot of people feel pretty lukewarm towards it though.
>>
>>164938026
They haven't addressed 90% of the problems they've had since launch and the game is just incredibly boring to a lot of people.

>>164938273
It's honestly the only thing about it I can't stand
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>>164938273
Is that One from Dragon Dragoo- excuse me, Drakengaurd 3?


Why does Ken always invite the most unga gameplay?
>>
>>164938274
3s = SF4 >>>>>>>>> SFV

3s and sf4 are two different games, but SFV is always trash since it's a worse 3s
>>
how the hell are these nips confirming into super off one hit?
>>
>>164938274
Don't nostalgia glasses so hard

Fucking USFIV was kind of cancerous with fucking Elena, Poison and Rolento all being dumb in their own unique ways

not to mention the only legit 9-1 matchup in the game what with gouken/hugo
>>
>>164938349
They have been playing the game longer than most of 4chan has been alive
>>
>>164938349

in ken and chuns case their supers are very fast on startup so you can very late cancel (or even link in some cases) off mediums and still have it combo
>>
how these niggas hitconfirming into super like this
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>>164938349
buffering
>>
>>164938273

possibly the most stupid mechanic in any game ever
>>
>>164938349
By having proper blood flow into their brain because their arteries aren't clogged by burgers and having working veins in their eyes because they don't have diabetes.
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>>164938356
>Crying about Elena, Poison or Rolento
This is some /v/ tier shit right here
>>
HOLY

FUCKING

YUN
>>
HOLY FUCK
>>
>>164938248

>The game sold 5 millions less than vanilla SF4 did.

Vanilla sold only 3.4 million. Ultra sold only 1 million.
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I've lost my shit so many times already
>>
>referencing youtube moment 37
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What's everyone watching?
>>
>/fgg/ Shadowverse & Complaining General
>>
for anyone who missed it

https://clips.twitch

.tv/gamenewton/MagnificentBarracudaTinyFace
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>>164938447
>character defines the new meta of the game with her retarded footsies and healing meta game
>character is an upgraded guile in a game where guile is good to begin with
>character based around annoying you to death but with actual legit tools unlike fuerte
>>
>>164938583
gamenewton_us on twitch

>>164938591
Fgg is all about memes, and Shadowverse seems rife with them
>>
>>164938626
>>>/v/
>>
>>164938595
nuts
>>
does shadowverse have better sniffs than sfv
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A year into SFV and I still can't do st.MP cr.MK xx SBK
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I wish I could have heard Zhi react to that lmao
>>
>>164938408
i'll have to watch it closer cause it looks like they're canceling damn near instant on hit
>>
>>164938595
>3 DP's in a row
>WOW SO SICK

I know it got parried and all but it still looks dumb as fuck like some online Ken
>>
>>164938692
It's a f2p cardgame that has a hodgepodge of artists contributing to it, you tell me.
>>
>>164938657
Cheers.
>>
third strike is fucking gay lmao
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>>164938692
You have no idea
>>
Dude 3S is so hype! As a 3S fan since online edition released back in the OG days I'm glad it's finally getting the respect it deserves.
>>
>>164938771
if he didnt parry he lost since there is chip
>>
>>164938595

Why is the SF franchise as a whole so great?
>>
>>164938771
you don't know thudstrike, it promotes mind games thanks to parry

He wanted to chip him
>>
>>164938703

do you actually play chun li?
>>
>>164938703
i know that feel. i've only recently landed it in training for the first time
>>
>>164938816
>>164938838
Thats why chip is a dumb kusoge mechanic
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>I think 3rd strike is the best of the series
>>
>>164938868
what game doesn't have chip beside sfv again
>>
>>164938868
desu i do think no chip kill is a smart comeback mechanic
>>
>>164938890
>>>/int/
>>
>>164938909
smash
>>
I remember an old ass SRK thread where a guy was sperging out over throwing in a hadouken before cancelling into super is less damage.
>>
>>164938909
AH3
>>
Fighting games are rehashed dogshit that get a new release each fucking year and you have to buy the new smelly tird for 40+ bucks to stay relevant

Play shadowverse instead lol
>>
TECH BONUS
2000 pts
>>
>>164938934
Well he didn't specify fighting game so i guess thats a correct answer
>>
>>164938909
A ton of anime games don't, but anime is different from sf and I think it makes more sense there.
>>
>>164938937
It is you retard
>>
>>164938909
tekken
>>
>>164938856
Yes why?
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>>164938968
not really since you can't keep blocking in smash like in SFV
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>crush counter combo is cc button > dash up target combo
>>
They should switch to ST and we can see turd strike "gods" drown in a real game with real neutral.
>>
>>164938909

sfv has chip, it just cant KO
>>
>>164939029
Dudley cause I like the way he played in third strike
Guile cause I'm fucking lame as well
>>
>>164939029
ryu because i havent had to learn a new character in 20 years
>>
Vega is the most illegible trash character in any video game ever.
>>
>>164939012

its really not that hard, im terrible at execution and got it at one day


charge as soon as you st mp, and input the cr mk early like in the last frames of ur st mp and then cancel from the cr mk immediately
>>
>>164939034
different games require diffferent kinds of decision making and planning

ST is great too, but today we suck 3s dick
>>
>>164938996
gg has chip that can KO though
>>
>>164939034
>ST
>neutral
lol
>>
>>164939029
Akuma

I'm a mechanic and I like to have as many tools in my toolbox as I can
>>
>>164939090
I didn't say "all anime games". Also GG has a mechanic that completely negates chip for meter.
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>>164939090
>gg
>anime
>>
>>164938868
Chip isn't so bad when there's a mechanic in place to avoid the chip like parry/barrier/FD since it actually raises the skill ceiling and makes for some hype moments like the video linked.

Seriously could you imagine how fucking stupid SFV would be if you could just chip people to death with any special? Almost the entire cast wouldn't be able to do shit once they were down to a sliver.
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>>164939034
>real neutral
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>>164939072
Show us on the diagram where Vega EEEEEEEYOOOOOOOO'd you
>>
>>164939034
Spamming wall dive crossups till your opponent is dead is not "neutral"
>>
>>164939195
>2017
>not politely asking your opponent to not play Claw
>>
>>164939238
I can't I don't know if it was on the left or right
>>
>>164939238
>the EEEEYOUUUU is on different sides in both pictures
>>
>>164939254
>>164939195
>>164939159
You guys reek of zero fundies
>>
>>164939268
"Okay bro"
>picks O.Sagat
>>
was that chubby yang player KO? the guy that won evo 3s a couple times?
>>
>>164939083
>Just press the buttons in the correct timing!
No shit Sherlock
>>
>>164939195
vega is banned, dumbass
>>
>>164939347
>thinks O.Sagat is broken
lmaoing at your fundieless life
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>>164939291
>>164939296
>Vega gets away with eeeyoooo yet again
>>
>>164939308
*wall dives intensifies*
>>
>>164939406
*tiger shots u repeatedly*
>>
ST is broken unplayable trash, I saw it a webm once
t. /fgg/
>>
Daily reminder that unless you include VF5 as part of your training diet you will NEVER have real fundamentals.
>>
>>164939523
put your trip back on james chen
>>
so is vega's wall-dive punishable if you block it as ryu in sfv?
>>
>>164939443
https://youtu.be/52e3LNOCEwg
>>
Is there such thing as a "frame trap combo"?
>>
>>164938806
damn
>>
>>164939523
>Literally trying to defend a game with 9-1 and 10-0 matchups, were the most dominant strategy is to simply spam a single move in an endless loop

End yourself
>>
3rd strike 09'ers are the worst.
>>
Didn't know ZUN played 3S
>>
This dude looks like he owns a businesses
>>
>>164939629
No one is defending Divekick man
>>
>back off and whiff normals until you get unga power super
>go in and unga
>back off and whiff buttons after it's done
High level yun in 3S is incredible
>>
>>164939568
The cute camera girl was the best thing about that video.
>>
>>164939696
This applies to Ken and Chun too.
>>
w2c tominaga outfit?
>>
>>164939710
>grill
>>
>>164939663
The man can do anything on Beer.
>>
Can muscle memory get good enough that you eventually hit a 1f link everytime without thinking about it?
>>
>>164939629
>Being this upset by a game you've never played and formed your entire opinion on from 2 webms
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>literally both players punching the air until they can OHKO the other
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why isn't there any SFV "god" like in 3s? Is it because the game doesn't have a high execution ceiling?
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>>164939629
>only character match up balance matters
you first
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>>164939858
Because the game has been out for less than a year?
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>>164939858

because the game has been out for less than a year?
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>>164939696
>build meter for super
>user super
>repeat
Yes this is how 3s works anon
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>>164939835
only if you can plink it
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Makoto announcement after stream.
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>>164939858
The skillcap has been lowered so there's more variance.
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>>164939876
*tips waldive* m'lady
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>>164939813
Help I'm
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>>164939901
>>164939904
uh???
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makoto is practically a TOD character in 3s
this game is terrible lmao
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Why is MOV so /fa/?
>>
Havent watched any street fighter in years.

Is daigo still the best
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>>164939901
>>164939904
there are gods in xrd
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>>164939976
The TOD is very hard to land
the makoto player right hand just happens to be a god

why do you think the game isnt' dominated by makotos?
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WHERE ARE THE MAKOTO WAIFUFAG POSTERS

POST YOUR BEST MAKOTOS RIGHT NOW
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>>164939858
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>>164940098
ROGER
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>>164939029
Akuma because he's in tekken
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>>164940114
But he fell off after EVO
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>>164940098
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>>164940098
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>>164940025
Xrd has been out for about 3 years plus it has an arcade version
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>>164940098
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>>164940098
YOU CALLED

>Makoto will never be in SFV
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>>164939858

If Knuckledu keeps up America might have the first god of the game.
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>>164940098
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>>164940064
the only hard part about the tod is plinking hk with mp and she can do it whenever she lands a command grab on her side of the screen. with 1 bar, she gets a dizzy into death on akuma/remy and on the other top tiers, she gets a dizzy into 90% combo lol.

this game is utter trash and the only reason why it's interesting to watch is because there's no money on the line.

everyone would be playing chun, yun, ken, and makoto otherwise.
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>>164939987
Asians can't help it. They live in a style mecca
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>>164939858
Because most tourneys are double elim best of 3 sets. Just not enough time to show who's the better player a lot of the time.
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>>164939029
Rikuo
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>>164940149
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>>164940192
But it had gods well within one year.
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>>164940241
We'll see about that after Taito Station gets its 1 (one) SFV cab in the corner.
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>>164940098
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>>164940125
>>164940183
>>164940228
>>164940242
thanks b0is

might need you again if tominaga keeps POUNDING like he just did so stay on standby
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>>164940298
Nothing will help the japs win when there's a decent prize pool in a tournament.

America is notorious for not giving a shit until the prize money becomes significant.

Just look at DotA: Dominated by Europe and China all throughout its life and also dominated DotA 2 all the way up to around 2014. Then suddenly the prize pool jumps to 8 figures and America gets its shit together and utterly crushes Europe and China.

What chance does Japan have against the country that nuked them?
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>>164940416
>Keep nuking them
>They build up a resistance
>Panic!
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Has anyone else noticed that fans of characters named Makoto are the most annoying?
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OMG this ryu
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i wish i was a neet in japan spending all my time at the arcades and drinking alone afterwards
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>>164940639
You spelled Q, Necro, and Alex wrong.
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>>164940639
Nah must be your imagination.
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>>164940098
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>>164940639
This is true for the SF Makoto, BB Makoto, Free Makoto, School Days Makoto and Minami-ke Makoto, but Persona Makoto and Idolmaster Makoto have pretty tame fans.
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>>164940705
These dudes are typically either employed, educated, or trained in a trade tho
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>>164940768
This, based Kuroda is an associate professor of Ryu working under Umehara Daigo PHD
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apologize
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>3s is literally just spamming command grabs into 100 PERCENT COMBOS

lmao nice "fundamental" game you got there
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>>164940705
>I wish I was a salaryman in Japan leaving work at 9pm to play in arcades and drink alone afterwards
fixed
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>>164940278
probably because only about 25 people play it so everyone is a god LMAO
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>>164930173

No, the issue with her is her mechanics. She's got worse mechanics and moves than in SF4 and the only thing she has redeeming herself are decent normals. She can't combo off of shit unless she v-modes which should never be a requirement for a character not to be utter shit. And when she v-modes, she's just average at best. Below average outside of v-mode.
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>>164940859
I don't think I've ever seen 3s and fundamentals mentioned in the same post.
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>chun mirror
time for real 3s
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>>164940639

That's because are usually tomboys. They have the same autistic fans.
>>
i joined nukis battle lounge and he played me on new years eve rate
>>
ME CHUN
ME LOW FORWARD
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>this mirror
ayy lmao
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That was fucking awful
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>>164940859
>Forgetting about wiffing normals for super then spamming crouching legs buffer to super
>>
>whiffing buffered low forward for 30 seconds straight
>one finally hits and the guy wins
FUNDAMENTALS
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>>164941105
That sounds like SF, alright.
>>
merk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUKFmi7Vb1w
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ONUKI
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In SFV in training mode the same move will do different damage sometimes. For exemple Chun-li's cr.HP does 100 damage. But when the opponent is at mid health it does 95 damage. Bring it lower and it does 93 damage. Why is that?
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anyone else starting to wonder if street fighter was ever good? like sfv made me reminisce about 3s and sf4 but this shit is hard to watch. i think i might finally be turning into a goober.
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>tfw want to watch co-op cup but Max is streaming Donkey Kong Country
Maybe next year
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>>164940149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXEK5FQpOvA&feature=youtu.be&t=60
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>>164941181
It's called the GUTS system. You take less damage the less health you have. I don't remember the specifics, but over 50% you take 100% damage, from 35% to 50% you take 95% and at the very end, last 10%, 75% (Numbers could be wrong, but you get the idea).

In Guilty Gear the GUTS system is off the rail imo.
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>>164941181
damage scales as the opponent's health goes down
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>>164941185
What IS a good fighting game?
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>>164941246
I think it's only in xturd where only the last 10% of the health bar matters
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>>164941246
>>164941274
Was this always in Street Fighter? What about other fighting games? I knew Guilty Gear had this but people always talked like it was unique to Guilty Gear.
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>>164936927
I have only one question. Why the hell her gimmick is not jump out of the mecha guy and fight herself? This could make some unique and interesting mechanic but instead we got some kinda generic martial arts old guy with boring fireballs. We already have superior kung fu master so it's kinda pointless.
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why do 3s players always whiff jabs in neutral
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>>164941291
BlazBlue Centralfiction
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>>164941246
There is no guts system in Street fighter. its just a universal health scaling depending on your health percentage.

Guts in guilty gear is scaling per character.
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>>164941304
it's always been in sf
>>
>SFV "Alpha" build
>Ryu's CA cinematic was much shorter
>people praised this change

>SFV final release build
>they made Ryu's CA cinematic longer
>people aren't pissed off anyway, most didn't even notice the reverted change
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>>164941369
are you talking about cr mps? thats to built meter
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>>164937246
>comparing a character who was added 7 months ago to a character who's been in the series since 2002
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>>164941301
Nah, it's in SF too.

>>164941304
I don't know about other fighters.

>>164941404
How's that different from what I said? You take less damage depending your remaining health. On top of that, characters have different health values.
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>>164941362
GG has so many meaty fireball setplay characters now. It's so fucking uninspired and boring.
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>>164941362
Because she is in hiding.
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>>164941447
oh it might be c.mp, then it makes sense. looked like crouching jabs to me.
dont play 3s much
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>>164941439
multiple CA's in SFV when? I want my Ken super DP
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>>164941459
In Guilty Gear, the scaling changes depending on the character. In Street Fighter, the damage always scales the same.
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>>164941514
for shoto cr mp is fastest normal to build the most meter so you'll see it a lot
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>>164931602
it will be patched in later
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>>164941459
Did you even read my post?
I said there is no such thing as a guts system in SF. It's unique per character in GG. It's the same percentage for everyone in SF.
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>>164941519
SFV needs fucking utility supers. Why the fuck are they ALL cutscenes into damage?
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>>164939858
there are only "gods" in games with weak competition meaning a few autists play for 100000 hours more than everyone else

sfv is the most competitive game out there and people play it for 100 hours a week as their job. no few people can tower over everyone when the most legendary fighting game players of all time treat it as their life.
>>
RX THE GOD
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>>164941536
>>164941598

I didn't know it depended on the character in GG, so we were arguing semantics.
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>>164941362
His fireball is pretty unique so I wouldn't call that boring. A character coming out of his shell can be interesting but in practice it wouldn't be much different than a stance change or an install.
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>Rose will never be in SFV
:'(
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>>164941682
She will. Her story is not finished and in her official SFV profile it says that she has a new disciple (Maybe Ed?).
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>>164941606
v-triggers replaced utility supers
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>Italian or Spaniard
>Laggy as fuck

Every time
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>>164941606
any utility super from a previous game will be a vtrigger in SFV
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>>164941732
>street figher
>story
lmao
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>>164941626
>50 FM has been deposited in your account
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who are the gods of USFIV?
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>>164941682
Thank God, the last thing I want is Capcom ruining my other favorite character after raping everything about Vega
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If Capcom wanted the offensive style of 3S for SFV they failed miserably.
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>>164941924
What makes you think they wanted that?
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>>164941810
it was the same with sf4 dumb cunt
esports ====== the best players grind 24/7
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>>164941924
Too bad they succeeded in transferring the lack of neutral and zero need for fundamentals from 3S
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>>164940098
>tfw you like Mokoto but suck as her
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>>164941852
brick
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>>164941939
It was more of an hypothesis, as they tried to stay away from IV's "defensive" nature.

>>164941957
The neutral in V is a disgrace, can't disagree there.
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Laura is tghe dumbest fucking character ever made in a fighting game

Nothing but frustration fighting this dumb whore
>>
So watching co-op cup has made me realise something...

Street fighter has always been shit, right?
>>
Why is playing fighting games way more entertaining then watching? But watching sports is way more entertaining then playing sports?
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>>164942157
aside from super turbo and alpha 2 yes
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>>164942134
Where's she catching you? Fighting against Laura becomes much easier if you know what to challenge and when to use v-reversal.
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>>164942157
>The most popular FPS are the shittiest and most casual ones
>The most popular RTS are the shittiest and most casual ones
>The most popular RPGs are the shittiest and most casual ones
>"Surely it must be different for fighting games!"
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>>164942186
Because sport and videogames will never be the same thing no matter how much autists scream about "muh e-sports"
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>>164942202
>kusogo turdbo
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seriously how can I do jumping dust into jumping dust for sol's advanced combo 7? Any GG players here
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>>164942186
Because you're a fat degenerate fagot.
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>>164942290
>Any GG players here
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>>164942264
Oh no I absolutely agree, sports need to have an actual physical skillset to be considered a sport. (inb4 muh reflexes)
It's a game, just like chess. I don't want to demean videogame players. But it's not a sport.
But regardless that was not the point I was trying to make. When I watch fighting game tourniments I just say to myself "I could just watch some Fightpass right now."
The only exception to this I find is Salty Bet

>>164942339
I dont understand your logic.
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>>164942287
it literally laid the foundation for every 2d fighter to follow and is still one of the best examples of a competitive fighter despite its major flaws
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She's going to be in S2 right?
with a buldge
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>>164942290
It's just timing, there's no trick to it except learning the timing. Sol's dustloops are pretty hard to do.
>>
3s is way more dash and mash unga bunga than jive could ever hope to be
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>>164942381
I haven't roleplayed as icycalm in like 3 years, i would have been able to say something that the one person who recognised would find funny back then.
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>>164942290
time it better
you gotta do one right as you jump and one right before you land
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>>164942397
>>>/discord/

Go suck off pisss some more faggot
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>>164942438
fak

I am getting by with just doing double tap for the following jumping dust but I don't wanna be a doubling tapping scrub
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>>164942439
It's good in 3s because of parry though. If you give those tools to characters without parry, it becomes oppressive.
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>>164942480
i got kicked from that circlejerk for calling out anakron like the retard he is tho
no need to name call cuz im right
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>>164942439
3s has proper normals though
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>>164942495
jive has projectiles and you have to commit to your jumps to stop the unga

parry nullifies both of them, that's why 3s is pure unga from start to finish
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>>164942571
>gorilla normals and Unga
THIS GOOD UNGA BUNGA
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>>164942397
>it literally laid the foundation for every 2d fighter to follow
The vanilla SF2 did that. Not Super Surbo.
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>>164942580
parries can also nullify normals, which is where the mind games come from. 3S is very free form and plays kind of like a 2D VF where you always have an option

You don't really have any understanding of how fighting games work
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>>164941304
It's in most fighting games, but GG takes it to another level.
Some fighting games like kof and uniel don't have it though.
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Anyone else find it funny how /fgg/ pretends to ?know jack shit about 3s whenever coop cup is on? I've been playing 3s since 2008 and I've never seen /fgg/ in GGPO, Fightcade, or 3soe.
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>>164942693
>I've been playing 3s since 2008
damn, look at this OG
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>>164942693
those are just jivers who are really mad that sfv was a failure and is already dying
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>>164942490
Tons of people double tap, even top players, there's nothing scrubby about it, scrubs don't even know what it is.
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>>164942693
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>>164942652
ya you always have the ability to random guess parry

you can also random guess DP or CA or any other yolo shit in any other game

face facts, 3s was so bad it made daigo quit playing fighting games completely
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>>164942791
>>164942479
thanks
>>
ok, that was pretty entertaining.
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>>164942438
>Sol's dustloops are pretty hard to do.
heheheh....
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>>164942801
>daigo said
lmao kill yourself streamboar
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>>164942801
why aren't you factoring in os parries when you approach?
>>
everyone knows 3S is kusoge but it's still fun

just because it isn't a serious competitive game doesn't mean you can't enjoy it
>>
>>164942409

No, but I think technically Roxy could be
she won't be, but could be
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>>164942975
true dat

it's a shit game like ST, people should just stop pretending it's good and there will be no arguments
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>>164942975
SFV sucks at being both, yet people are still sucking Ono's cock because they don't want to disappear like the fucking dinosaurs.
>>
when will sfv and sfv haters make their own thread
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>>164942975
It's fun because there's nothing on the line. The character pool shrinks to 5 characters the moment a decent prize purse gets added.
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>>164942975
>3S is kusoge because it isn't joyless esports propaganda
lul
>>
>>164943085
>let's split a dead general
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>>164943138
4chan and fgg would be better off dead
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>>164943026
SFV is better than 3S though?
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>>164943138
The BlazBlue general and KOF general are both alive
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>>164943109
>b-but sf v is e-sports
truly pathetic
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>>164943172
LMAO

SFV isn't better than anything, what is the redeeming quality of SFV?
>>
>>164943085
People who hate sfv still play sfv though.
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>>164943198
its fun and lots of people play it
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>>164943187
More pathetic than complaining about a game you don't like every time you get the chance?

Probably not.
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>>164943198
>what is the redeeming quality of SFV?
the fact that it's better than 3s
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>>164943234
when did I complain about a game I don't like?
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>>164943198
it has thicc waifus
>>
i feel asleep cuz i couldnt keep my eyes open

did momo play yet
>>
how do i get my fgcfu to like me
>>
>>164943308
yes he stunk
>>
Just got SFV. Can I cheat to get some of the locked content? Even if it's just a temporary training mode tour. Has anyone ever gotten banned?
>>
>>164943308
got bodied by some ramen chef playing makoto
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>>164943341
do you have the bbc gene?
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>>164943019
so which SF isn't shit? the only one I haven't heard shit on is Alpha 2,
and I know that can't be real because that's the first SF to feature Rolento and V-ism/GeneiJin, which everyone shits on.
>>
>>164943361
google SFV mods
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>>164943404
they're all shit but you can still enjoy them

If you want a well designed fighting game you play GG or Virtua Fighter
>>
Jesus christ what the fuck did they do to ken
He's way too honest now they took everything from him
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>>164943558
Just play Karin she's unga and top 6
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How can I combo standing moves into SBK with Chun? Like cr.LK, cr.LP, st.LK, SBK
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what the fuck is unga
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>>164941362
>>164941463

>every new character aside from Sin has some stupid meterless projectile shit to help with, or outright trivialize, pressure
>Ramlethal
>Elphelt
>Leo
>Jack-O
>Raven
>Kum

>try to practice Jam in this warzone
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>>164943646
a shitty moba meme that 1 faggot in this thread keeps saying
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>>164943646
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>>164943667

how new are you
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>>164943646
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>>164943667
>moba
It's a fgc meme originally you moron
>>
>nuki can't win shit in sfv
>but he can win the biggest tournament of the year in a game he doesnt even play
really makes u think
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>>164943667
>moba
lmao new
>>
>>164943727
>but he can win the biggest tournament of the year in a game he doesnt even play
he's in a team of 5 and didn't even play in the final you moron
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>>164943702
>>164943689
>>164943758
Oh yea? Just like how "salty" is from the FGC 'community'?
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>>164943727
>5v5
just like mobas, shit player gets carried by the team
>>
>These losers on commentary
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>>164943404
>the only one I haven't heard shit on is Alpha 2,
well too bad because daigo himself said alpha 2 is a joke game for kids
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>>164943657
Just 236SP into grab.
>>
AT EASE LOSER
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>we won't get another stream like this until Coop tournament 2018
>back to SFV streams after this
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>>164943361
I know that You can use cheat engine to replace the character at select screen offline to try all the characters but that's training mode only?
>>
>>164942339
>le bald autistic greek of wire fraud
>>
>>164943781
>FGC 'community'
>fighting game community community
how new are you?
>>
>>164943854

What's my combo after grab again?
>>
w2c those orange pants
>>
>>164943781
Who said it was? Salty is east coast slang and a large amount of east coast players say it and then it went through the rest of the community.

The way Unga is used is unique to the FGC though so I don't know what you're on about.
>>
>>164943870
Oh neat, so what are the character IDs? I'm guessing Ryu is 0 and Chun 1?
>>
>>164943759
>>164943784
nuki beat loads of people, practically OCVd one of the team

3s is just ez
>>
>>164943958
>FT1
>>
>>164943893
>>164943915
The fgc community is just pathetic... Both salty and unga come from LoL, you've copied it and actually believe that you made it up!
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>>164944048
don't be a fag it came from hearthstone
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>>164943558
He's still very strong, I think.

In fact, I actually feel the opposite. They didn't nerf him enough. He can still play braindead thanks to the ability to confirm his Chin Buster target combo from s.jab, his EX Air Divekick is still very annoying when it comes to frame advantage (and I know it's supposed to be -2 now) and his damage output is still quite high.

The problem is that Ken players happen to be very retarded, so they do stuff like wake-up EX DP when it's never worth it (especially in a game like SFV when you get CC into 60% damage combo if the opponent has enough resources).
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>>164944078
dont be such a noob

its from need for speed
>>
>>164943898
If you have no meter - j.S jc j.S j.HS dp
If you have meter - grab RC 22S (character specific buttons) - 46PK - aircombo
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>>164944048
>>164944078
>>164944163
Christ almighty its from Donkey Kong.
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>>164944048
But, I already said salty wasn't from the FGC. I said it was east coast slang. Its been used as slang mostly by the east coast as early as the 1920's or 30's.

I also said the way unga is USED is unique to the fgc.

The reality is no one here gives a fuck about ASSFAGGOTS anyways.
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>>164943937
No it was shit like "RY" I had a list but they change it for season 2, search the zetaboards street fighter mod forum
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>>164944285
No you idiot, its a quote from the movie A Deer Hunter
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>>164944393
Thanks anon
>>
SF5 eu anyone?
>>
SF5 NZ anyone?
>>
IaMP fr anyone?
>>
Unironically SF5 East Coast anyone. I'd make a lobby.
>>
thank god this 3s shillery is done, we can finally get back to playing a good game, like 5
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>>164944509
rank?
>>
SFV is built too much around negativity when it comes to fighting game design philosophy.

If some tools are stronger than intended (like Ryu's j.lk, for example) the nerf hammer is indeed accepted but when you use it for every stance when a move isn't that strong it makes the whole experience much more boring and uninteresting.

Better see buffs and strong characters untouched rather than nerf hammers all over the place. Even some low tier characters like Alex got the nerf hammer for some reason.
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>>164944626
U-Ultra Bronze but I only go the game last week
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>>164944582
>Playing
>Not alt f4 when your srk misses
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>>164944665
Well im bronze as well, but in Perth so unsure how the lag will be. We can try it out

cfn tag?
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>>164944738
MrBoner
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>>164944757
Nice name.
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Do I also get to play a game with someone or do the people that shittalk SFV not have any other games?
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>>164944789
thanks, I'm the real Mr Bones but everyone takes my handle
>>164944738
invite me
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I just hope SFVI has a different, more competent team.

I'm a simple man with hopes and dreams.
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>>164944881
Well you've got 5 years to wait
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>tfw only want to play umvc3 or tekken 7 in pc and neither are released yet

the fuck do i play until those
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>>164944832
See me in TTT2 PS3
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>>164944881
There isn't a single competent team in Japan so good fucking luck.
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why is playing vs super plats or diamonds easier than golds and silvers?
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>>164944925
Because you skipped fundies you unga bunga spastic.
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>>164944832
The people that spend most their time shittalking any game most likely don't play one.
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What's the point of playing a high execution character if they aren't top tier.
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>>164944921
I can't see you in games I don't own.

>>164944925
Because this game focuses too hard on hard reads so a RPS mindset (playing randomly) will actually be harder to counter that someone you can actually read.
This is why games balance mixups and stuff with stuff you can react to.
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>>164944881
>sfvi
LOL, they'll keep updating SFV till 2020 and if it didn't sell much by then they'll make it f2p. You'll be an old man with old man reactions when sfvi comes out.
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>>164945030
Kill yourself
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>>164945007
fun
high execution characters shouldnt automatically be top tier
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>>164945030
See me in T7 when it comes out then
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>>164945081
That game won't be free and I won't waste money on trash like that sorry.
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>>164945104
See me in Tekken Revolution 2 if it comes out then
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>>164945104
But you already wasted your money on SFV
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if someone jumps over you right in front of you how are you supposed to react and anti-air. how do you beat that?
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>>164945275

move forward while they jump
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>>164945145
Why do you want to see me in Tekken? I can't stand that game.

>>164945217
But I didn't, I got a refund during the beta period because they were already nerfing stuff when they said they wouldn't.
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>>164945275

You can dash away or towards him to land behind him, you can neutral jump yourself, you can block the other direction to avoid getting cross-up'd.
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What does CFN mean?
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>>164945393

Capcom Fighting/Fighter Network
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ggs

jittery netcode is bad in this game
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>>164945453
yea and combine that with smelly NZ internet

GG
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>>164945417
T-Thanks
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tfw getting the "nbn" tomorrow aka fast internet

diamond here we come
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>>164945393
cringeworthy faggot nigger
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>>164945621
Did you forget to take your meds anon?
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>nash vs birdie mu

I have never had this little fun in my life. Nash can't do fucking anything against Birdie.
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>>164945797
funny how in S1 it was the opposite
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>>164945797

isnt it the other way around
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>>164945836
>>164945846

If so, please do explain. I couldn't do dick against him.
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>>164945325
I'm trying to learn Tekken and honestly can't play any non SF4 or SFV game for shit so that's what I went for
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how about that sfv eu?
>>
Ranked Match 532/953
Casual Match 815/1432

rate
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>>164946041
play broski
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>>164946093
/10
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MORTAL KOMBAT X IS FUCKING SHIT

FUCK KUNG LAO TELEPORT GRAB SPAM REEEEEEEE

FUCK YOUR TEABAGS
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Can someone explain to me why you'd main someone like zangief? So many of his situations are easily solvable relative to other characters. Limits his skill ceiling. It makes him very easy to pick up and be good with, relative to other chars at least, there is an upside.
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any sound pack for SFV that swaps the SEs with the ones from SF IV?
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>been playing for a month on pc and already level 48

#riseup
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>>164946234

Because people are individuals and they have unique requirements for what they find fun in a character.
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>>164945859
you backdash, throw a slow boom and watch birdie as he cant do shit other than block. not even neutral jump
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how do we make fighting games fun like dota 2?
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>>164946234
Because he's a wall with great anti-airs and braindead normals?
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>>164946321
It's called Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator
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>>164946302

That's literally one thing. So what you're saying is that I should do nothing but sit back and throw slow booms and hope he doesn't EX the shit out of me on the slow startup.
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>>164946321
Where the fun comes from when playing dota 2?
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>>164943840
He said that when he was 16. So he had been playing ST, and Vampire Hunter during those days. He said that looking back at it, he can see why people consider it a good game.
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>>164946391
extremely large hero pool, really varied playstyles, farming and buying items.
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>>164946447
Then you can try umvc3 except for the farming and buying items part
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>>164946357
Welcome to Nash S2, where your best option is to beat them clean in the neutral or push them in the corner so you can drop them into Sonic Boom loops ala Guile
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>>164946529
mvc3 isn't really varied playstyles though. it's zoning (morridoom) and everything else. it's the same thing with guilty gear. knockdown into forcing the enemy into guessing 3 coin flips in a row.
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>>164946321
Bring back voice chat and IMS.
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>>164946357
yes, thats literally the one thing you have to do, just let him hang himself
and since sfv 'grapplers' dont have shit for defense you can bully him up close too if you decide to go in with oyur lightning speed dash that he'll never expect

the matchup is in nash'S favor 2bh
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>>164946607
Oh we're doing /v/ poster satire let me try:
dota 2 doesn't really have varied playstyles, it's all cc and rng garbage and every team comp is the same
>>
The longer loading times on consoles are actually better for gamers since it gives me time to calm down bewteen matches.
This and many other reasons is why consols remain the #1 place for gamers while pcs are for spreadsheets and nerds.
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>>164946447
Smash 4 is the best fighting game of the decade.
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>>164946579

He can't Boom loop though. The start-up got changed drastically, even on light or even ex there's well enough time to even go for a throw, or just punch you out of it. You can barely incorporate booms into combos anymore.

>>164946674

That's the problem though. If he spots me doing a boom from anywhere that's not full screen, he'll just do an EX headbutt and eat that shit then go ham on me. I don't know what Birdie you're playing because he beats almost every single one of Nash's normals on range and in frames.
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SF5 Eu anyone?
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>>164946892
That's a platformer not a fighting game, even tho it has fighting elements (like dark souls, overwatch and for honor).
>>
>>164946825
>Upgrade GPU drivers
>first match SFV
>Screen turns black, match is still running

PC Masterrace r-r-right guys!?
>>
>>164946903
what league are you?
>>
>>164946960
Nah your retarded.
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>>164946963
more like pc master at petitions race :D
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>>164946791
but that's not true. there are tons of rat compositions, reactionary compositions (silencer, naga, etc.), death ball compositions, 5 range aura strat, tank lineup, 4p1 ultra late game, early rosh lineups, anti rosh lineups, 4 core lineups, etc.

the problem with fighting games is that every character is the same flavor with a twist.

guilty gear is the easiest example. there's no difference between raven, kum, milia, ky, zato, etc. they're all trying to get a meaty fireball into pressure.

fighting games need a designer like icefrog.
>>
What are urien's bad matchups?
>>
>>164946963
>tfw i've never run into any trouble with sfv on pc
I thought sfv running badly on pc was a shitty meme at first, but there's so many people complainging about
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>>164946909
Maybe post CFN or Steam ID so people can add you.
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>>164947039
>>164946963
PCs are for the tech literate. Back to consoles for you children.
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>>164946963
Cool story bro
>>
>>164947171
How much more money do you need to run Bloodborne?
>>
>>164947095
Urien
>>
>>164947171
Maybe 10 years ago but these days every idiot should be able to build a pc and maintain it. Consoles are for those mouthbreathing seastars that refuse to go out of their comfort zone.
>>
>>164947072
They all do the same thing in the end and all the characters are just reskin with attacks from other champions that's why there is no varied playstyle, the day you can use 4 long range no cc champions and win at the highest level will be the day you can call mobas gameplay varied
>>
>>164946993

Gold.

I fail to see how that is relevant however. If it is relevant, do elaborate if you wouldn't mind.
>>
>>164947229
None since PS4s use off the shelf PC hardware, which means it'll be trivial to emulate in a year or so. Good job spending $400 on a dedicated gaming machine that only plays a small subset of games though.
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>>164947247
That's debatable, I've seen people saying it's 10-0 for Urien but I've also seen arguments for 8-2 in urien's favour and even 5-5.
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>in training mode, perfect vtrigger combos
>in match, always get the wrong trigger and place it on my head instead of behind them
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What's it like fucking this beautiful woman?
>>
>>164947272
the means aren't the same, the goal is.

problem with fighters is that the means and the goal are often the same. it's also why barely any people play your genre. you know your genre is fucked when sfv is the most popular game.
>>
>>164947284
I have a PC and a PS4 though and a Wii U
>>
You guys complained about SFIV for its entire lifespan and touted SFV as the savior of the franchise. Now that SFV is out all you do is talk shit about it and complain. Will you guys ever be happy?
>>
i wanna fuck gllty tbqhFAM
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>>164947358
>sfv is the most popular game.
??
>>
>>164946302
>>164946579

You two are fully aware that if Birdie throws a can, he can just forward jump towards the guy and basically have an advantage both in air and on the ground, right? You're both giving really fucking bad advice.

>he cant do other shit than block
Play the game in Season 2 and don't comment on things you haven't actually played.
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>>164947358
They're literally the same that's why mobas are not fun to me, that and the forced 50% winrate matchmaking. Fighting games are still growing despite namco, arcsys and capcom being terrible developers, one day Riot will release a fighting game and everything will change mark my words.
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>>164947138
CFN: robert_mate
Unironically
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>>164947407
Ye when KOFX- I mean Tekken 7 comes out
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>>164947520
could you explain why they're the same? it's not anything subtle like kum vs. raven. the playstyles are outright different and being abel to draft heroes adds another layer of mindgames.

i actually agree with you there regarding riot fighter though. riot would definitely shake up the fgc. they could easily do something like 5 players vs 5 players matchmaking with items and talents.
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Damn Juri is pretty fun in S2, the changes to her are really anime
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>>164947717
Juri's charm consisted of her pink attacks and her glowing eye, and now it's all grey and shit.
It looks awful.
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>>164947817
Also her foot fetish stuff which is now replaced with the Capcom-Sasquatch™ tumors.
>>
>>164947817
Weird I thought her charm was having an install that let you do anime blockstrings and combo out of an unreactable high-low mixup.
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>>164947664
Because you mistake counterpicks for variety when it just makes the game even more linear and dumb.
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Good morning fgg
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>>164948114
Tron won't be in MvCI
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>>164947897
That's because you're not a casual, people with anime avatars are usually casuals who only care about sniffs and arcade mode, which is fine really.
>>
i don't play 3s but why is makotos super jungle that tominaga was doing supposed to be difficult?
>>
Reminder that 3S literally saved the fighting game genre.
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>>164948171
>this capdrone is STILL defending the lack of a mode that every jannitor can code you together in an afternoon
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>>164948261
I don't like this meme
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>>164948261
Yep it made capcom fuck off from the genre which which gave us a glorious golden age.
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>>164948171
But I have an anime avatar on Steam and I love sniffs of Juri and Chun-li, I just like playing Juri a lot too
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What's the most boring fighting game to watch, /fgg/?
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>>164948732
smash desu
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>>164948786

melee can be exciting sometimes if its like ice climbers or whatever, but brawl and smash 4 are so fucking boring i dont know how anyone can watch them
>>
>>164948732
Mortal Kombat
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>>164948837
I watched some smash 4 and it looked fun
>>
>>164948732
Street Fighter V no contest.
>>
>>164948732
why would you watch games instead of playing them
>>
>>164948837
back to veddit tripshit
>>
>>164948732
BlazBlue bores me to death because every hit abares into a 10 seconds long combo
>>
>>164948732
SFV or Koihime Enbu

At least Koihime is fun to play though.
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>>164948938
Tournaments
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>>164948938
Post of the month.
Thank you.
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what does abare mean related to anime fgs?
>>
>>164949198
Basically it means flipping the coin
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>>164948732
On average I'd say SF in general, SF is awful to watch unless it's two very high level players with some rare exceptions like that Crackfiend vs Marn no respect Dudley mirror.
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>>164949198
Hitting a button in a disadvantageous situation.
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>>164947892
it always was sasquatch feet
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>>164949198
mashing while under pressure
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>>164949198
sf5
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>>164949296
SFV seems way worse about that everyone has giant feet and hands and fucked proportions. It looks fine with some characters like Zangief but it's pretty jarring on slimmer characters.

Not to mention super goofy stuff like Guile's arms in his CA
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>>164949198
mashing
When you hear it in guilty gear, it's mostly referring to mashing P
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>>164948732
melee
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>>164949549
>>164949549
>>164949549
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>>164949198
Actual non-meme definition: Converting a random hit into a combo. It's not specific to anime, but the ability to abare is more important in anime since random hits are more likely to be able to lead into combos in the first place.
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>>164949493
Is this your first street fighter my 16er friend? Nice to see that people are rising up!
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>>164949531
If we're counting Smash as a fighting game I'm changing mine from SFV to Melee
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