Control face edition
Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/ and made by CYGAMES same company of /gbfg/ /domg/.
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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>>164806095
Someone needs to stop forcing this meme
Top meme game
Grea and Mushussu MVP
https://a.pomf.cat/jmoniq.webm
>tfw ladder anxiety
YOU'LL NEVER TOUCH AMELIA!
>>164806250
It's just sword users trying to flip the script.
How do you play Daria? What do you mull for?
>>164806250
Don't worry, these plebbits have already killed it.
>>164806250
Wish me luck /svg/ !
>>164806278
Want to be my bff?
CYGAMES is not the same company of /domg/
Dominions is made by a pair of Swedish autists, one of whom is a schoolteacher.
>>164806278
>Ladder anxiety in a game you can't lose ranks
>>164806095
I helped to force the unga meme when it was used just by one autist and now it's mutated. I wish i never did it.
>>164806278
Nishiyama a best.
Need a concede pls.
61706
>when you're forced to drop Alexander for cyclone because he's too slow
Hold me, /svg/.
Forest needs dark elves NOW
Control Shadow makes me want to stop climbing ladder until the fad is over. It's just so tedious. I'm tired of matches taking so long now thanks to them.
>tfw Ramp Dragon shits on every control matchup and Daria
If only the matchup against bats didn't rely in hoping they get shit draws and you get all your early removal this deck would dominate the ladder.
>>164806364
same.
>>164806298
Daria.
>>164806327
Good luck, anon. Hope you don't get 1st versus a Masters player with a near-Constructed level deck.
14320
8/20
>tfw spent the whole day watching a shadowverse streamer on twitch
am I the biggest degenerate faggot here?
My X deck have a hard time against X deck.
X card is hard to deal because my deck is not refined and prepared.
When they drop X card and i don't have answers X deck is bad designed.
>>164806290
t. Bloodtard
>>164806473
Some one fucking post a good list then. Everyone too busy JOing and charging crystals to actually discuss other dragon decks.
>>164806472
just play aggro my man
>>164806374
Thanks!
>>164806516
We get it, you don't have the deck. Next.
>>164806250
of course its a reddit nigger
>>164806250
>>164806364
>>164806502
There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Aggro blood is the most cancerous deck and you know it.
>>164806564
Why would you want anyting besides JO?
27323
3/20
>>164806268
>Neptune
Post dick man, I love that card.
>>164806364
Retards like you that can't see two feet in front of their face are why the world is such shit
>>164806545
You are using X for all of that, so I that means every one of the omitted terms is the same:
My JO deck have a hard time against JO deck.
JO card is hard to deal because my deck is not refined and prepared.
When they drop JO card and i don't have answers JO deck is bad designed.
>>164806626
but now they are forcing "unga bunga"
>>164806250
Sword and Elf get t2ed.
feels bad can't roll over 80%unga
>>164806524
I did the same ;_;
>>164806424
I gaveup on Sword when this expansion hit. I used to love playing Control Sword in DE. Alexander is literally my favorite card in this game. But the new expansion added bullshit like Albert that kills any of the fun of playing the class. They also just keep adding a bunch of removal spells which is making Sword feel less and less unique and more and more like the other classes. I don't even know why you'd play them at this point over Forest or Shadow.
>>164806436
>>164806424
>That jubilant feel when dropping a perfect cyclone and dropping the entire enemy field
>That subtle realization soon after that it doesn't even matter in this clown meta because Daria just vomits her hand back onto the board, Elf OTKs you, and blood had you within 2-3 points of lethal anyway and has 1/3 of their deck that can finish the job from hand.
>trying to decide between making control sword or control blood
>blood gets a ton of cute girls
>sword gets an overpowered fuckboy that everyone hates
life is hard
Is Bahamut a good idea for a Seraph deck?
>>164806298
I keep insight and search for boostable followers since it is easier to get boosters. Daria can be kept but you shouldn't actively look for her since the chance is pretty damn low as well. I'm not sure how I feel about keeping Superman, but I will do so if I get him alongside Ogler/Daria because I'm a greedy fuck.
>>164806364
Why is no one blaming /fgg/ for this meme?
>>164806595
>>164806298
Emmy, Eye, Craig, Clarke, Insight. Sometimes magic missle depending on the matchup.
>>164806706
Cancerblood deserves it anyway
>tfw dropped seraph against a dragonfag who I knew for a fact had bahamut in hand
>next turn he drops bahamut and concedes
>>164806364
good job retard
>>164806626
Nah.
Sword is
>>164806772
Bahamut is always a good idea for a non-aggro deck.
Do you guys think AA and Masters Ranked should be a BO3 with side decks?
>>164806281
But she's trying to touch me right now?
Shadow is currently THE most balanced deck right now.
>>164806772
Very much so, if your opponent is able to pressure you away from the Seraph play, you can just drop him and suddenly the tables have turned.
Fully animated pack
>>164806764
Difference is, your cute girls would actually be viable in control Sword. Seiba, Tsubaki, Amelia, Floral, Olivia and Meido Leadah are all core.
>>164806874
I'd love to have siding on this game.
>>164806517
this is exactly what happened but thank you anyway
What's the different between Mid range and Control Sword and why is Mid Range ranked so high compare to Control?
>tfw there is no fanart of my husbando siegfried
>>164806673
Keep in mind it's a meme deck that I only play in unranked.
It's fun when it does work though.
>>164806569
I've been thinking of switching, but I find most aggro decks extremely boring. I like Daria a lot, but I don't want to craft triple Daria.
I might do it since she even works in Dshift (somehow; I still don't get it) so she's at least flexible.
>>164806095
>no previous thread
Vaniafags are the worst.
>>164777745
>>164806268
that forte bouncing up and down is too lewd
>>164806424
I still keep 1 alexander desu, even if you're running the meme duck there's always a chance you won't have enough damage to make use of cyclone.
>>164806874
Would take too long. I wouldn't know how the meta would be impacted by siding, so I won't offer an opinion there.
If it was done like Dueling Network, sure, I don't see why not.
>this is the best dragon deck according to gameai
>first match in their video is getting shit on by another lamp dragon that is smart enough to use a genesis dragon
maybe we shouldn't listen to japs
>>164806734
>>164806914
>sworders trying this hard to escape
Stop acting like you are a blood/shadow player in DE
>>164806786
Because Nerffie is the one that imported it because he's a shitcan that thought it would be hilarious to force a meme
>>164806983
Control is considered better now by all but the slowest, out of date websites because the Otohime into Sage Commander engine is too slow against a lot of the current t1 decks.
>>164806983
Midrange wins by playing stuff on curve. Control goes for maximum value instead of tempo and stalls for the lategame where they can put out big dudes and stuff.
>>164806778
>>164806802
Thanks. Also, do you try to control the board and play around aoe, or just go face and hope you're fast enough?
>>164806772
I would say it's a must to have at least 1 baha now. Seraph needs another wincon if seraph gets destroyed or if you don't draw her.
>>164806764
One is good and one isn't. Control Sword has always been shit.
>>164806983
Midrange's gameplan is Otomeme into Sage Commander, and using Alwida and storm to close the game.
Control's gameplan is running your opponent out of your resources, and warding up against aggro. Or switching into full aggro mode against Seraph, D.Shift, and PtP.
Midrange was the previous king of brain dead decks, because there were very few efficient ways of dealing with Otohime in the game. Now, it's been rendered shit, because there's too much removal, and going face with Albert yields better results.
Nep or forest without any forest legos?
>>164806545
My T3 deck have a hard time against a T1 deck.
X card is hard to deal because my deck is not refined and prepared.
When they drop X card and i don't have answers T1 deck is bad designed.
>>164806564
I posted mine last thread >>164804217
After playing quite a few games against every class I came to realize just how flexible the deck actually is, and that Sahaquiel would be the most broken leggo in the game if there were more Neutral minions like Lucifer. Even with just the one Lucifer and Gilgamesh it has been performing outstandingly well. Pulling fucking Unica has been helpful in a lot of games as well. Also, you never play Bahamut unless you have either Sahaquiel + Gilgamesh/Lucifer or a board clear to follow up.I learned that the hard way.
>>164807134
Go to sleep you dumb SEAnigger
>>164807132
Sahaquiel went from being "overlooked" to being overhyped at mach speed. Ramp dragon's best deck does not run the full gamut of neutrals to support her play.
Just get to Master 2 days ago.
Don't know if I should keep climbing with the Nep deck.
Can't tech in Odin against Haven is pure suffering.
>Opponent just played Nep when he had 3 life left and I had Matriarch out
I'm guessing he would have survived if Khawy died first, but it didn't
>>164807227
>>164807295
You guys get t2ed not uber shitted.
>>164807226
>forest without any leggos
Come again?
>>164806752
>When the opponent clears my board and thinks they're safe with only 11 HP
>>164807062
A deck like this actually has potential though, unlike fucking Mage Dragon. Hopefully next xpac gives some Megalorca support to the craft.
Anyone care to link me to a Hare/Eidolon/Seraph deck?
>>164807361
How is matriarch for you?
I cut it form my lists, not enough weenies or tokens to make it really worth it, I've felt.
>>164806874
I just think you should be able to pick a side deck at the versus screen when you see their character. It would take all of five extra seconds, yet make the game so much more balanced.
>>164807260
Looks too gimmicky. I think just classical Urd ramp/storm Dragon with the new cards (Fervor, Salamender, and Bahamut instead of Fafnir) should be enough. No need for this cute Saha shit.
>>164807394
>A deck like this actually has potential though, unlike fucking Mage Dragon.
in to the trash
>>164807382
I think you should learn English before you try posting here.
>>164807393
>opponent hides behind a million wards with 2 hp
>I topdeck cerberus
>>164807393
>Struggling to get shadows against Haven
>They Themis and give me 5 shadows after I dropped Cerberus
The worst thing about Daria and Nep aren't their cards. It's the fact they brought Seraph back out in full fucking force because it does so well against them.
Now they are so common you need to put Odin in every single deck and it's even worse than DE.
>>164807486
To each their own I guess. Just sharing what has been working for me.
>>164807393
If shadow sets up the puppets I know exactly what I'm in for t6.
>>164806364
You're a fucking idiot you know that?
I lost to JO dragon...
>>164807393
Get a trip already you fucking tumor, this is all your fault
>>164807226
There never was, and never will be a good Forest deck that doesn't run 3x Ancient Elf and 3x Rhinceroach.
I feel like this should be in the fucking OP, because of how many people ask this question each expansion.
>>164807452
I run two of them and never have any real complaints, though I wish its stats were maybe one point better.
She's great and often times she gets the job done enough that you can save a revelation.
>Opponent plays cards on his turn
Why is this allowed?
>>164807656
>I lost to JO dragon.
This is pretty common.
With what deck you lost?
>can take out a tiger and hawk by herself
>can kill off a 2 defense follower when paired with dark conjurer
Turned out Lyrial is not as bad as we think.
>It's a bouncing the same roach 3 times late game for 18 damage episode
>>164807670
how does the vampiric fortress does work?? i have 5 minions on the board and it no work.
>>164807062
This looks like a pretty neat daily deck.
>>164807656
As it should be.
Dshift list please. I can't find one that is up to date.
>tfw 2478 Nepdeck beats aggro blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDHvMhih7Qs
>>164807394
>unlike Mage Dragon
The sad part is you really believe that don't you?
This heathen Petrified 2 of my crystals. Needless to say, he was not ready for my 3rd fully charged JO crystal.
>>164806983
Ranked where? Pretty sure control is better right now.
Anyway, mid-range Sword will try to apply pressure and gain tempo from turn 1 until they finally get value off of Sage commander to seal the game or by using storm to finish their opponents off after chipping them due to early board pressure and tempo.
Unlike people that don't play Sword believe, mid-range fell off because Daria is everywhere, and the deck can not keep up with her, since she shits even more followers than Sword, and Otohime ins't fast enough on that match-up, it puts the deck into a not so very good spot right now. AoE ins't the main problem here.
Meanwhile control tries to survive the early turns and make valuable trades/plays, so that they can stabilize with wards and then finish the game off by attrition or Albert, since the value ins't located on tokens and they pack up more removal, they can retain some of the good match-ups from mid-range without getting completely fucked by Daria.
Do you have your Lilly sleeves yet?
Levi Piercing Rune is so fucking dumb.
This is starting to trigger me even more than baldy.
>>164807809
wtf i played liza and themsis wiped my board??!?!
>>164807779
Dimension Shift
>>164808034
Damage and destroy effects aren't the same.
>>164807810
It works surprisingly well, considering there's 3x Demonic Simulcarum in it.
When memes collide.
>>164807878
>2:13
Look how bad designed this is pure RNG REEE . all back again the next lego is a Yogg.
Can't contest the board REEE.
>>164806278
>ladder anxiety
>don't want to gain ranks
>but too lazy to sandbag
I just wish the memes would never end
do you get score even if you lose in ranked?
>>164808065
He was memeing friend, check the reply chain.
who got that dank daria list tho
>>164808008
Yes, but not really a fan of either of this month's sleeves.
Some one post ramp up and JO. I need it to convince a friend to become a JO bro.
>>164808013
It's literally better in every way than Baldy
>>164807878
did this guy mod his hit sound effect or something?
>>164808008
I will still get her, but won't be using her since I have bellringer and I hate elves.
>>164808081
>Deathly Tyrant
I keep forgetting that shit exists. Whenever I see Shadow shadows I always think it's a PtP deck.
Did they ever fix that bug where if the evolved minion dies piercing rune stays at 1 mana? Or was that shit actually intended?
>>164808349
I've never seen that happen
>>164808228
How did I do, dad?
>>164808349
The spell gets a discount AFTER you proc an evolution if it is in your hand.
>>164808349
Intended.
>>164808349
I hope it was intended shit card otherwise.
>>164808349
It's intended, read the card. It says the cost is changed when you evolve a follower, not when there's an evolved follower in play.
>>164808349
read the card
>>164808349
It's intended, once you change it to 1pp it stays that way
>>164808349
Reading is hard huh
>>164808317
>tfw see Luna gathering shadows and preparing for Tyrant and it was just PtP memes
how do I stop myself from playing 30+ games a day
>>164807132
this deck doesn't make any sense
best use for cavaliers is reducing pp for high cost cards
but you have 7pp saha for free high-cost card draw
stop netdecking and start using your head
>>164808401
Thanks bud.
>>164808546
charge your crystals more often
>>164808228
Only show the pure JO dragon to new bros
>>164808349
the text on the card says
"if an allied follower evolves, change the cost of this card to 1"
if it worked like you wanted it would have said
"if you control an evolved ally, change the cost of this card to 1"
>>164808451
It might actually be more balanced if it was like that, considering every other "Evolved allied follower" card requires the follower to still be in play.
>>164808546
Why stop if you are having fun? I marathon played the game til I hit masters, now I play a bit more sparingly but still hop on for dailies and to relieve some stress with meme decks.
Until the next Masters rewards anyway.
>>164807394
reminder that mage dragon has a higher winrate than discard
i haven't played the game in a while, can someone explain to me this wizard dragon meme to me?
>>164808770
Mage dragon has a 100% win rate if you're smart enough.
who is your favorite titcow?
Is Shadow Control essentially irrelevant due to Nep, or are there some advantages to making a control deck that doesn't have to worry about Nep drops.
>>164808008
6 wins away, taking a break for right now but this is easily the fastest I've ever done the monthly sleeves.
>>164808546
>tfw I barely play outside of doing dailies
>>164808013
Levi won't live to see the end of this set without getting nerfed
>>164808770
Mage dragon would be even higher if people learned how to properly charge their damn crystals and the deck didn't have 200 IQ minimum requirement.
>>164808838
Control shadow doesn't have to suffer through an odd curve just to get the best result out of nep. You can also include carrots to run the other guy out of resources.
Just make sure you have Odin to deal with their mordecai, though.
>>164808013
>turn 4 evolve Levi, piercing rune, piercing rune, save sorcery for face
:^)
>>164808013
>Try to run my Eidolon Seraph deck
>Damn near auto lose to Daria since 75% of the deck's damage is burn spells anyway.
>Rune gets evolve on turn 4
>Lose 2 followers and eat 5 face damage minimum
>Pulled 2 wolves, maybe I'll look into Wolfbolt
>It's a tier 4 deck
Welp, back to the only Forest deck that works for another 3 months I guess.
>>164808843
I do the same tried to climb but the meta is so strange...I want to mememaster
>>164808827
>>164808691
>Mushussu
>topdecking bahamut on turn 10 in arena
>>164807878
>Ward spamming stops aggro
Wow, say it isn't so
68079
pls help with 20 match achievement thanks!
>>164809023
not even the actual cows can compete with her
Reminder that Cygames thinks Elana is fine but Conjuring Force was not
>>164809000
>I want to mememaster
discard, PtP, angel crusher dragon
GO!
4 new players
>>164808979
Good to know, I really didn't want to burn the vials for 3 neps. I assume poor Beelzebub is the one getting cut for Odin?
5 Levi evos
>>164808827
>>164809024
I mean stuff like Heavenly Hound, Swift Infiltrator, and Dark Conjurer
Which one of these control sword lists is going to get me the furthest?
I have a lot piling up and im not sure what to craft.
>>164809129
>tfw no secret COC+Laura otk
Post ambush sword deck.
>>164809118
>All of these big titty midgets that are barely breaking 4 feet.
Granblue was a mistake.
>>164809163
>spice things up
>dragon
>rowen has the spiciest memes
whoever made this predicted the future
Anyone have a good Nepnep list?
>>164809163
>Sword
>Speed
>in this meta
>>164806250
I like it
>>164808838
Seperate Decks. Great cards like Cerberus and Howl are omitted from Nep to fit their curve goals, so Shadow Control is still the one with access to lategame sudden 10+ damage from an empty board
>>164808827
You already posted her, anon
>>164809094
68079
8/20
>>164808991
>not running barong eidolon
>>164806250
Much better than cuck or kys or whatever shitty fucking meme phrase who gets thrown out.
Why does blood need half their cards to be complete shit?
>>164808827
>>164809173
With Khawy around, that seems rather likely. Guess we have to see how big Nep and Seraph are in the following months.
>tfw power is going to go out do to ice storm
>tfw will miss quests and rewards and mycrystal charging materials
>>164809247
But I just showed you a card that doesn't work like that. Not every cards related to evolve are "If an allied follower is in play".
>>164809472
>much better
They're all shit.
>>164809489
Because blood is not supose to have good cards.
>>164809163
That chart is fucking terrible
>>164806268
How do you make a webm faster, is it possible to do inside the webm for bakas?
>>164809316
Granblue was a blessing my man
>>164809459
I run Guardian Fox on account of it being more flexible. The things getting shit on are the rabbits and I honestly kind of hate them.
>>164809489
She's decent when called from the combo spell. It's the other Blood legend that's absolute shit.
>>164809323
You can give this a try >>164807783
Tweaked it slightly off Rizer's list. General idea is to keep yourself alive until late game.
>>164809489
why is dragon forced to have so many shitty lose your cards for barely better than neutral spell effects?
>>164809121
>spells that range in utility and are often very cheap costing but great effects
>healing followers and cards that would see zero play because aggro is so strong
It makes sense that Elana is better than Conjuring Force. If you could get even more benefits for playing cards like Piercing Rune and Insight and Fate's Hand then it would be insane.
If Conjuring Force cost three like Elana did, then Daria would be completely unstoppable.
You cannot convince me D.Shift players are human. Every subhuman piece of shit that plays the deck does the lethal as delayed as possible just to force their opponent to sit throughout the entire thing. Every single one of them. They have all 3 D.Shifts in hand at 0, but still won't show that they have lethal, and will do every cute little time wasting move they can think of.
They just play the fucking deck to waste everyone's fucking time, that's it.
>>164809641
Speed it up in Windows Movie Maker before making it into a webm
>>164809682
>dragon
>bad cards
>>164809447
68079
10/20
>>164809395
>>164809538
Do you have lists for your control shadow? I'm just curious what others are running.
>>164809273
can control sword even win against anything that isn't bats
>>164809724
just alt tab andcharge crystalsand wait for the clang your turn sound
>>164809724
There are some people that like it.
They like freeze mage,otk warrior and more shit too.
>>164809784
This is the pre-Nep deck I was using.
Khawy and Flies is probably too much.
>>164809750
aight thanks anon
>>164809325
Aggro sword is bretty fast.
What if Dragon had this card?
>>164809724
i just met the shittiest Dshift player but he still won because i got literally only 2-3 drops though entire game
And before lethal he started spamming emotes
do you think she comes home all sweaty after all that riding guys? haha
gud night /svg/
>>164809273
Middle is best, drop avant for fangblade/odin/alexander
>>164809641
I didn't speed that one up, just used the in-game speed up replay function.
You can speed them up in WebM for Retards with "Change Rate" option.
>>164809969
>if you kill your enemies, they win
>>164810005
nice rack
>>164809489
I'll never understand why she loses two attack as well. Either do self damage or lose attack, but both is fucking stupid. Blood has so many cards that are cool, but will never see play (Beast Dominator, Erinyes, almost every bat related card)
It's fucking retarded that instead of making bad legendaries good they just attached them to new cards and give them to you with enhance.
>>164810005
You tell me.
>>164810005
where are the nipplets
>>164810174
it was actually a good idea.
>>164810196
that looks as riding at home though
>>164810303
I'd ride Forte at home.
>>164810251
Not for those who pulled a playset, forever waiting for them to be relevant.
>>164810174
No, adding new cards to revive old cards is a good way to do card game expensions.
What's retarded is changing already existing cards.
>>164809724
dshift was a mistake
>>164810174
I agree, but I think it was mostly done with Arena in mind.
It's a shame because I really like Beast Dominator, Erasmus, and Pluto. I wish they had at least made Pluto and Beast Dominator into hero portraits.
In general I'm disappointed in the lack of portraits. I don't get why they aren't pumping those out every month or two. I feel like it would be so much easy money and I'd love to buy say a Bloody Mary portrait or a Cudgel portrait.
>>164810353
>she will never dominate you
>>164810251
beast dominator wouldn't be a good card even if she was 3 mana.
>>164810196
>>164810303
>>164810329
can the dork even be rided? i bet shes stll pure
>>164809724
Honestly after dealing with this shit here, D-Shift doesn't faze me. This card was banned not because it was even good, but because the deck it was played in took too fucking long to play out and it was hell on tournament schedules. Brian Kibler during a GP left the table to visit the restroom, as his opponent was mid combo, came back, and the nigga STILL wasn't finished with his turn. All on stream.
>>164810174
tfw all the rest is "then summon" and erasmus is "instead summon"
it's also funny that two of these shit legendaries are alt leaders
>>164810468
>s.n
>not good
t unga bunga
>>164806095
UNGA BUNGA
VAMPY IS CUTE
>>164810515
>summoning him with the new card is 1 mana more than just putting him in your deck
what the fuck were they even thinking
>>164810503
maybe pure at heart while being reluctantly ridden...
How do I Neptits? I just unpacked my third one
>New patch censored Isabella again
>Too lazy to uncensor again
>>164810683
That's the point. The idea was that these weren't supposed to completely replace those cards, but offer other options. Basically they made cards better than the previous in almost every situation, but had the cost go up slightly for the rare situation where those cards may have had use.
It is to avoid being called powercreep even though that's exactly what it is.
help Arisa get lethal with this hand
>>164810796
>1pp left
>16 matches since the last sword player
It's dead, isn't it tim?
This was fucking beautiful.
Meme'd by Archelon
>>164810834
Thank goodness
>>164809897
Thanks. I like Balor in non-Nep because he can just do his thing instead of interfering with Khawy.
>>164810848
He's someone that I like to pick for T2 if I can help it.
He's won me so many matches.
>>164810848
very nice
68079
10/20
help pls
>>164810834
at least 20+ for me in AA2
I know what they need to get back in the game, another 4pp or 5pp drop! That will surely do the trick
>>164810832
the other guy is at 19hp and no wards
>>164811117
empty board on your side and no wards on his?
>>164811117
you should have bullied a chuck of his HP with roach the previous turn
What rank are you? What deck do you main? Are you craft loyal?
>>164809724
D-shift is hard
you actually need to think for one
>pull animated daria
>doesn't play rune
Do I become a dariashitter now
>>164811173
yeah
>>164811186
AA0, silver knot, used to play only blood, got mindbreak into adoring silver wolf's cock
>>164810834
>bought 2 prebuild decks just to craft Control or Mid sword
>>164810728
There's a lot of opinions on how to do it properly, but here's mine. It's pretty straightforward; play defensively and abuse your draw power to make sure you have Nep in hand by turn 8, and then roll faces when Nep heals you, kills at least one if not two enemy followers, and summons Mordecai. You also have a chance to draw a card and summon a Lich, and while that's nice, your main focus is Khawy+Mordecai, which is why you're only running 4 different follower costs, so Nep gets both of them 100% of the time.
>>164810770
It's not hard anon, I just saved the file somewhere else so I could easily paste it back in with every update.
>tfw playing a Cyclone Blade with LeonidasHe used Olivia last turn.
68079
11/20
almost there
>>164811117
Ya done fucked up, you have 1 more NG than you need and have 18 damage this turn. Should have chipped with it last turn mate.
>Seraph is running odin now
since when did this happen
>>164810789
but selwyns command and sadistic night are direct upgrades over their legendaries. They each get their legendary for cheaper with zero consequence and the cards base effect is also good.
>>164811376
Biggest weakness is bricking until turn 4-5 and dying way before you can gte Khawy or Nep out.
That happens way too often, not really feeling this deck at all.
Reminder that only mentally disabled kids play aggroblood
If I'm looking to play Dragoncraft, should I keep rerolling until I get at least 1(one) Forte?
>>164811449
>Not always running Odin for the mirror
>>164811449
Since forever?
Odin was always for the mirror.
>>164811463
Selwyn is a gold
>>164810508
>Four Horsemen was effectively banned because its combo does not resolve in a finite amount of time and because it's non-deterministic it can't be shortcutted
shit still amuses the fuck out of me.
>>164811463
Isn't Beast Dominator a 6pp card? You are spending 7pp to summon it. Dealing 6 damage is just slightly extra no big deal ;)
>>164811436
let's say I dod'd turn 8, roached and nature's
he's now at 15 hp and now I have the same hand except -1 NG, can I still win?
Help me JO Bros.
I really tempted to add Greas and Farnir.
What do???
>>164810834
>>164810906
>>164811023
>>164811359
>It's spring 2017
>new expansion announced
>"Skies of Fantasy" (Granblue themed)
>new cards for Sword get leaked
>It's Favaro and Kaisar from the Bahamut anime
>They work like Anne and Grea
>Favaro is 5pp summon Kaisar and return an enemy follower into the opponent's hand with rush
>Kaisar is a 4pp drop summon Favaro with taunt
>rest of Sword's cards for the set are support for that Sky amulet and stealth sword (ala discard dragon)
>post yfw as Swordcucks scrable to fit them in along with their x3 Albert, Floral Fencer, Monika, Feena, Teena, Amelia, Aurelia and Otohime
>>164811552
i think right now bahamut and genesis are more essential than forte
how did dragon became the laughing stock on this general?
>>164809163
Here's the actual pic.
>>164811783
because the only good dragon deck is expensive so everyone is playing jo dragon for those sick memes
>>164811783
not a strong deck before expansion
gets a JO crystal after expansion
>>164811376
does she get one follower per cost or something?
Anyone have a Nepless Control Shadow deck?
Is floral fencer just deleted from the game? I can't craft her and the decks that had her are gone
>>164811463
>>164811645
Beast Dominator is 5 pp, Selwyn is 6
>>164811436
He could've used the angelic snipe to the face for 19.
Is satan dragoncraft a good deck or a meme?
>>164811861
-3 nep
+3 lord of the flies
>>164811865
do the story
>>164810728
I was a fan of this deck for awhile >>164811376
But have since moved to a more midrange style deck with Nep/Mord tossed in. Yes, the Attendants fuck up your Nep, but the deck doesnt brick as hard as the 4 different follower cost decks do. The extra ability to control the board from Attendants and Necroassassins means you probably arnt desperate for a Khawy heal when T8 comes around and Nep is a finisher that can put up to 18/18 worth of stats on the board. The more I play it the more I believe that this is the proper way to play Nep decks, intentionally gimping your deck to build completely around an 8 drop that doesnt instantly win you the game just isnt worth it.
>>164811783
rowen is voiced by sugita
it's the worst craft
all of its playstyles are memes (including ramp, you can't fucking ramp in a game as fast paced as shadowverse)
>>164811117
0pp fairy x2 -> snipe -> roach ->bounce ->roach -> bounch ->roach
1+4+6+8 = 19
>>164811783
GOOOOOOOMI CARDO
>>164811935
It WAS a legit deck, but I think in the aggro-heavy meta we're in, that regular ramp is the better move
>>164811813
guess what craft this poster mains
>>164811117
Easy lethal because of lucky topdick.
Snipe to face (1)
Fairy
Fairy
Roach (1+4)
NG
Roach(1+4+6)
NG
Roach(1+4+6+8)
Perfect lethal.
>>164811982
also +3 cerbers
>>164810848
>forest d-shift
>>164812021
68079
12/20
>>164812126
Joke's on you, I main Forest.
>>164810174
What annoys me is how shit secrets of erasmus is compared to the others
>Beast Dom for 4, 1 less mana cost
>Selwyn for 5, 1 less mana cost (plus possible combo synergy if saved)
>Pluto for 7, 2 less but limited by 4 def conditional
>Eramus for 9, 1 more fucking mana just to summon the shit card and nothing else
I mean if they were all "balanced" cards Erasmus would be the baseline that makes sense, of course the enhance effects for them would just be completely ignored at that point because no one wants to spend more mana to summon bad legendaries/golds.
>>164810906
I too prefer being killed on turn 5 by Rune and Blood
>>164811902
sadistic night and selwyns command are both worth their cost even without the enhance so you're paying 4pp for a beast and 5pp for a selwyn who is also a token if you ever decide you have nothing else to spend the pp on.
fairly new player here. i thought what the hell and bought two of the forest prebuilt decks considering that crystals were on sale and that i already had two tias. I'm having a ton of fun running tempo. however i'm slowly amassing a decent amount of gold. what type of packs should i splurge it on? truth be told i'm not exactly sure what i want to make next. i was thinking control blood because i have two bloody marys but i'm not sure.
>>164812267
faster than turn 6 with otohime + sage commander
>>164812251
Erasmus should have been 10 mana and done both things. but 10 mana is a super special thing that it's not allowed to be apparently.
>>164810174
enhance is almost as genius as evolve mechanic, shame you can't decide when to use it though
>>164812372
control blood is probably the worst control deck in the game
if you don't draw dire bond you might as well concede
keep your maries cause you'll never know what might happen but don't invest in it
>>164812396
>Comparing a board full of 1 drops to the fastest decks in the game
Which missions do you usually skip? Is it dumb of me to skip the win 7 ranked matches for a free pack?
Anyone have any changes to suggest to my deck? Yes, I plan on removing the Devourer, and adding in another Themis.
Thoughts?
>>164806436
Sauce this please
Can I get a concede please?
37001
>>164812270
HAHAHA I just lost to aggro bat player that just used Sadistic Knight in a clever way to get around Khawy. He had evolved Alucard and some bats, he played it summoning Beast Dominator while killing Khawy, who then killed the Beast Dominator allowing Alucard and bats to attack for game
Lucky, but I never thought of that play, in case you need to protect an evolved Imp or something.
>>164812251
Yea I don't get why they were so afraid to let Erasmus enhance have removal as well when Sadistic Night and Pact have targeted removal.
>>164812372
2 bloody marys is barely scratching control blood. You need 1 more mary, 3 queen vampires, 2 odins, and 2 matriarchs.
The only decks that can compete with that cost are control sword and ramp dragon which happen to be their best decks while the best blood deck costs like 3k vials.
>>164812270
i believe the non-enhanced selwyn's command is a standard card in roach combo
>>164812564
I have a deck that's good enough to win unranked in every class, so I usually replace any mission that only gives me 20 money.
>>164812593
Shinobu as Blood's alt leader when?
>>164812584
double odin is asking for bricks
>>164812586
Thanks!
>>164811505
What are you trying to mulligan for? I toss anything that's 4 or more back to maximize my odds of getting my 2-drop followers and ideally also Soul Conversion and/or an Impious to drop on turn 3. As long as you have your first couple of turns in hand, you can easily draw into what you need for the rest of the game later. It also helps you reliably get your 6 shadows by turn 6 for Breath or Tempest.
Keeping things like Nep or Khawy will absolutely make you brick though, you don't have any draw power in your opening hand so you're entirely at the mercy of topdecks. It's still entirely possible to brick if you mulligan away, say, 6pp/7pp/8pp and get back the same costs or higher, but really, every deck that runs 8-9 cards above 5 has this issue, and plenty of them work well enough, e.g. Seraph.
Basically, focus very very hard on your early game during redraw so you don't die too soon.
>>164811856
Yes, so your roll is always Mordecai+Khawy+Urd/Unleasher+Dingdong/Skullcradle/Corpse. It really helps to have that consistency, otherwise you can end up throwing Nep and just losing because you don't get what you needed to stay in the game.
>>164812016
At least personally, I don't feel like the deck is gimped by skipping out on more followers. The only one I occasionally wish I had would be Spartoi Soldier for the sake of another early ward, but that's really not worth losing out on Mordecai on 20% of my Nep plays. If you're not going to get guaranteed results from Nep anyway, you might as well take advantage of Cerberus, since you're already scrapping consistent Nep plays and trying to go for a more aggressive midgame. That's just my 2 cents though, I'm not sure how much that would actually help or hurt you since I really wouldn't go for a list like this to begin with. I'm just way too hooked on removing Nep's RNG, especially after winning so many mirror matches where the enemy Nep whiffed tremendously while mine was consistent.
tfw vampy is core
>>164812564
I try to keep the missions related. It's obviously much better if you can play one deck and get credit for all 3 missions at once.
>>164812616
>aggro blood
>alukard
>sadistic night
u what m8
I want to ride Forte.
(Gasp)
>>164812862
get in line fuckboy
>>164812862
your toosmall
>>164812564
I always keep those. The only missions I reroll are the ones for classes I don't have good decks for.
>>164812937
Eeh?
>>164812584
What's the godamn point of Odin
He's a counter to seraph and mordecai but you can just play your own seraph and win at that point
Is control sword the most expensive good deck in the game?
How do I beat nep decks as control blood? Do I just rush them down before they can get a mord on the table?
Posted on the other thread before I realized it was dead. Friend of mine's looking to start with tempo runecraft; what's a bare minimum roll? I was thinking 1-2 daria and an animated legend and like 2 levi?
>>164811861
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63E_G.63E_G.63E_G.63FiQ.63FiQ.63FiQ.6AtFs.6AtFs.6AtFs.6Ay8M.6Ay8M.6737K.6737K.6AtGA.6AtGA.63Kb4.63Kb4.673s2.673s2.6At-a.6At-a.61PnY.61PnY.61PnY.6Avhy.6Avhy.6Avhy.61O4U.61O4U.63MII.63MII.63KbE.63KbE.63KbE.6AviG.6AviG.6AviG.63Jsg.63Jsg.63Jsg
Is what I've been using. Feel free to tweak it or disregard it as you will.
>not cucking swordfags with Flood Behemoth in arena.
Bloodcraft is probably my favorite arena leader now. They got a bunch of good cards this expansion.
>>164813013
Yes
>>164813009
If you play Seraph when the opponent already has played their Seraph you've lost the game
>>164812760
>What are you trying to mulligan for?
Obviously the 1-3pp cards. Too bad there are too few of them to get them reliably. Soul Conversion and Impious are useless without followers (that often get cleared anyway), and Foul Breath and Death's Breath are very weak without shadows (that you won't have thanks to no followers or spells played).
The early game is too big of a gamble to be consistent.
>>164813013
Control blood and Ramp Dragon are pretty bad too.
>>164806278
I miss this show.
61444
12/20
>>164813123
Interesting. Isn't Reaper better suited for aggro though?
>winning against "lol so random destroy any follower" shadowcraft as ramp dragon
kys shitters
>>164812616
sounds like control blood to me mate
Which card should I remove for a 2nd Odin? Cause I keep getting rekt by Nepneps, ramp bahamut and seraphs.
Not shown are:
3x Unica
3x Vampy
2x Temptress Vamp
>>164812862
i want to ride her until her womb is filled with half demon (dragon?) babies
61444
12/20
Turn 4 Unga Bunga.
79363
concede mission.
25085 if any anons would be so kind :3
Only 3/20
>>164813368
Surprisingly, Reaper has been putting in a LOT for work for me.
He's like why I have Cerb; it may not be my intended wincon, but it still presents a threat if unaddressed.
Plus, as control, you can hide your Reaper behind Death's Breath and Khawy, meaning you can force your opponent to blow removal spells on a 2-drop follower
>>164813601
oh wow you must be so skilled! haha!fucking kill yourself
>mfw missing lethal by 1 multiple times today playing roach otk
Starting to feel that 2 or 3 angelic snipes is a must.
>>164813601
Yurius was a mistake.
i just can't play elf OTK
it feels like I'm entirely at the luck of the draw, and that they play absolutely no wards at all.
>>164806095
The image has only been around for a day or so and people are already posting shit
>>164813198
ramp is 3 fortes, 3 bahamuts, 2 odins, maybe 2 fafnirs
Control Blood is 3 Marys, 3 queens, 2 odins, maybe 2 matriarchs
Control Sword is 3 Sabers, 3 Sabers (male), 2 Tsubakis, 2 odins, maybe 2 otohimes
>Have 5 snowmen
>Opponent has 10 HP and no ward
>Play Dimension Shift
>Opponent makes me attack him 10 times instead of just conceding
>>164813741
Animated version when?
>>164813686
Snipes are nice since they make your combo bigger without cluttering your board taking up roach space.
>>164813749
>fafnirs
>>164813749
>Control Sword is 3 Sabers, 3 Sabers (male), 2 Tsubakis, 2 odins, maybe 2 otohimes
And 3 Alberts
>>164813773
Are you one of those faggots that has lethal on board but won't play his cards and just spam emotes hoping the opponent concedes?
Why? What sick pleasure do you derive from this?
>>164813192
I mean, I'm using the exact list I posted and not having this problem. If you expect your 2pp follower is going to get tossed, you just don't play it on turn 2, instead dropping it on 3 with Conversion to guarantee the shadows+draws and maybe even get removal from Corpse. Impious is a bit unreliable, but that's why it's only there as a 2-of. It's invaluable when you get to drop it on a Corpse on turn 3, and it's great as a backup option for when you need to kill your own Khawy on 10 to heal out of burn range, but obviously it's a little dead on turn 3 if you miss your 2pp follower.
My real question here is why you think there aren't enough low pp cards. It's 9 2pp followers, almost 25% of your deck, along with 3 Conversions, and 3 Tempests and Pacts that are fine without their bonus effects since Tempest shits on bats/fairies and Pact shits on anything that's hit the board on turn 3. That's not even including the 3 Resentments, which are great for dissolving the enemy's turn 2 play for those times when you manage to miss drawing any of your 2pp followers.
Like, don't get me wrong, I'm open to critique here; I just don't quite understand why you're having this specific issue with my list when my early curve is pretty normal compared to other decks.
>>164813859
>3 Sabers (male)
Does anyone feel like running some serious decks against me so I can test my deck out?
Room 96913
>>164813870
No, I play as fast as possible. It'd just be quicker if he conceded.
>>164813749
>2 odins and 2 fafnirs on dragon
false
place your bets
>>164813143
Flood Behemoth fucked my shit up while during a Forest run earlier today. I still managed to win, he denied my Cynthia dropping until I could play around him.
What kind of sick, twisted minds enjoy Take Two?
>>164812251
Beast Dominator a shit but her coming out on 5 and her coming out on 7 with an upside are very different things. Sadistic Night isn't strictly better, I mean it's overall better, but there are tangible advantages to running Beast Dominator over it or along side of it.
Selwyn's Command is in a similar boat, the original card isn't very good but 6 is largely the cutoff point for anti-aggro tools. He can feasibly save you there where his enhance print wouldn't.
Pluto and Pact are obviously different enough that it doesn't need to be explained.
In Erasmus's case, he's already a late end control win con. Not a very good one admittedly, but it's his obvious intent. Plop down when you're stable, go face while he clears everything. He's easily the most threatened card by his enhance spell as it stands since the difference between 8 and 9 for a card that intends to go for turn 12+ is negligible. They can't make the spell any better without Erasmus being completely obsoleted, and what it is right now already leaves him in a sore spot.
>>164814060
Is Fafnir shit? I just opened one.
61444
12/20
>>164814060
>>164813749
Someone post a Ramp Dragon netdeck, I want to know how much vials I have to burn for an actual good non-meme dragon deck
>>164809325
LET'S SPEED THINGS UP
>>164814060
Odin is slowly becoming mandatory on every deck that isn't agro to deal with the influx of seraph decks.
Unless the nep and daria population completely dies off because they are the reason seraph is the most popular it has ever been.
>>164812521
>>164812624
in that case what packs should i invest into the most if i don't have a a preference specifically? i would like to make a control deck of some nature though
>>164814117
Get fucked by sword.
So Daria just bends over Blood Aggro right?
>>164813859
sabers (male) is albert you poodle
>>164814184
>Ramp Dragon netdeck
>Not a meme
Every netdeck includes Fafnir, causing it to be an instant meme. It's not hard to figure out a list on your own though.
>>164814135
people with skill you unga blood
>>164814223
>just liquidated one extra odin i pulled
>trough 1 was good enough
shit
>>164814252
the best control deck atm is probably seraph so invest in DE packs
>>164814117
Your evil deeds end there.
>>164814060
japanese tournament winner's deck
>>164814358
Come on anon, it's a tech answer card, you should always keep 3 copies of those.
>>164814378
>japanese tournament full of B3s
>>164814378
ding dong spotted glory be
>>164814313
So Dragon is actually shit in RoB?
D R O P P E D
R
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P
P
E
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>>164814378
wait, i changed it a bit
and replied to wrong post
there should be 3 odins instead of 2 and luci
>>164814184
>>164814294
It's basically an even matchup. Bats can easily rush them down before they get their massive tempo swing on turn 4, but Daria can just as easily draw into just enough anti-aggro to survive with stuff like Kaleido/Piercing then Levi to clear board and close things out.
>>164814184
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/appmedia-ramp-dragoncraft
>make a new deck and play it for an evening with a positive win rate
>feeling pretty good about it, decide to play it again the next day
>6 game loss streak (2/10 in all) with half the games feeling like the opponant drew every card they needed to win in that situation
fuck this shit, it isn't even the first time it's happened..
>>164814378
Wasn't that a B rank tourney?
>>164813827
Yes but there's so many card options to put in roach otk it's hard to figure out what's the best. In one deck I have no snipes and use 2 glimmering wings, also run a Pixie mischief for bouncing opponents wards or big followers for cheap when using DoD is too expensive. Had a 9 game win streak earlier today with it.
I got a 3rd Urd to add to my Control Shadow deck. Offscreen is two Mordes. What should I drop?
>>164813610
4/20 :3
>>164814294
No, it's 50/50.
>play dragon
>win
>play sword
>lose
Who's the cuck now?
>>164814585
i can't read moon, some dude posted twitter link so i copyed
Japanese tournaments are usually played in a 2 match format. So they are all playing seraph+agro or Daria+control/ramp to tech against Seraph
Kyle and Rowen were probably best bros back in the army days, do you think they charged up their crystals together?
>>164814168
Selwyn's is good though. You use in the roach deck to get more storm, which sometimes you need to chip that last bit of 2HP off. At the very worst he stops a big threat from attacking a turn, so it's fucking amazing.
61444
13/20
>>164811250
She looks like she can't believe she's this stacked.
>>164814546
Draconic Fervour is a good card?
>>164814519
What I meant was the current Ramp Dragon netdecks all include meme cards like Fafnir, and the problem with tourney decks such as this one >>164814378 is that most of them are geared for the competition and not exactly ladder play. You can try taking the skeleton of the deck and making adjustments (i.e. tech cards) for the decks you're facing at your rank, which is how you're supposed to play a card game anyways.
>>164813896
Thank you havenfriend. Trying to make Eidolon work isn't easy.
>>164814618
Stop avatarfagging
>>164814258
>>164814375
Dragon's roar couldn't stop me
>>164814782
Oh okay. Just one question, is 3x Bahamut very important or even mandatory for your typical Ramp Dragon deck?
>>164814916
*screams in cudgel*
>>164814781
>ou
>>164814838
No problem, that was a close match! And I know that feeling - in the end I had to vial mine since I never got it when needed or I was close to losing by the time I got it. I hope it works out better for you.
>>164814782
It's almost like all those decks use Fafnir because he's not actually a meme and only /svg/ shitters think that.
>>164814936
Bahamut is currently the most important card in the game for ramp. It's the only reason that ramp has become a good deck. You can replace the fortes with seabrand or eyfa if you cant afford any dorks but you cant replace Bahamut with anything because fafnir is shit.
>900 pts away from Master trials
>go on a 5 game losing streak
>>164813873
It could be all confirmation bias and me being salty at Darias just ovewhelming me. Guess ~30 matches is too small of a sample, I will keep trying a bit more.I really like the concept of Nep, even if it is partially RNG. I want to see her be useful ;_;
>>164814936
I run 2x and it has been enough for my rank. Generally you want to drop Baha when you have either a board clear to follow up in case of a board flood or are sure your opponent just can't deal with it. You only drop the guy as a board clear if you have no other options and are about to get fucked.
>>164806095
So I fucked up with the forest list by naming Water Fairy wrong. So here's the amended batch for the cheat sheets. Hopefully someone will add this to the next OP.
http://imgur.com/a/G5kGb
>no one drafting Forest to actually noticed the typo
>>164814838
Sent you a friend request
>match vs bloodcraft
>i got genesis and a ward on field
>he is at 1 hp i got 2hp
>he has no hand or field
>cue his turn
>he does the sorry emote
>topdecks dance of death
>i lose
i cannot describe how i feel right now
I can't
>>164815280
was ?
>>164814546
>>164814781
dont copy gamepress decks, they are shit
and yes, fervor is mandatory in ramp dragon, not only because it gives you ramp but draw and heal
here deck i made myself, it's cheaper and works
>tfw no reason to play Sword because banner and midrange are dead and it's the worst control class
>>164815043
Yeah, I'm leaning towards doing the same. Thanks for taking the time out of your day to help me out.
>>164815215
>does the sorry emote
At least they know; it could have been worse.
how are you even supposed to fight face dragon? they just storm you with 3 evolved fortes and you die
big wards are useless due to siegfried, small wards are useless due to breath of the salamander
>forced to draft valkyrie's spear and well of destiny
>keep seeing them in all 5 matches
You cannot make this shit up. Fuck those cards, especially that spear.
Did you protectedhissmile today, /svg/?
>>164815413
>""""Control"""" Sword
>Control
>>164815413
>and it's the worst control class
>Control Sword has a higher winrate than Control Blood or Control Shadow
What did he mean by this?
So far I've opened 15 of each pack. Which packs should I focus on if I want to netdeck a cheap competitive deck?
>>164814620
Anyone?
>>164815349
Everything was going so good
It's not like I jumped up a bunch of ranks in the ladder or anything
And yet my ladder is like fucking Jacob's
>>164815556
Standard has most of bats aggro iirc
>>164815372
>Shield Angel over Imprisoned Dragon
I suppose you chose that for the bats matchup?
>>164815534
Wrong.
>>164815534
But control sword dies to nep shadow because they can't do a single thing against morde unless they use Odin. Including him is questionable since they don't help in other matchup except for Seraph.
>>164815534
He doesn't realize that sword has wards for days which absolutely crushes aggro and combo lists.
I can't fucking win with aggro.
Is there something wrong with my deck, or am I just too intelligent to play Ungacraft?
>>164815556
>netdeck
>cheap
>competitive
>>164815612
it can attack unevolved
it has more health, even more when evolved
against bats and other aggro shit
>>164815461
Death's Breath, Haven's toolkit, Control Blood's toolkit and killing them before they can kill you.
>>164814294
Pretty even.
Honestly comes down to how well rune draws. If they both draw the nuts then Rune wins because its nuts is bonkers compared to anything else in this game.
Aggro blood basically just tries to kill them before they can get the train rolling.
>>164815574
>>164815656
Except Shadow's wards are way better now
>>164815669
>too intelligent
>Queen Vampire in a Blood Aggro deck
lmfaoing @ your life
>>164815731
I think I'll give it a spin, considering I'm running a list with Sahaquiel it might prove more useful than Imprisoned Dragon.
>>164815669
>wind god
>killer devil
>queen vampire
>midnight vampire
No wonder you can't win
>No card that gives protection for spells to the face
What's the counterplay for spell damage
>>164815556
Bats is the cheapest viable deck, it's better to just vial the few golds in needs.
Beyond that it depends what you want to play. While most decks needs standard cards, Heaven for instance gets a lot of their good stuff from DE.
>>164814294
Depends on how many Levi's witch can draw.
>>164815372
>No Forte
>Calls it cheaper, when it is the same cost
>Only 2 Mushussu
>CoC
>Conflag
>Shield Angel
>No Fire Lizard
>Isn't JO
>>164815743
I just lost to them as control blood. I tried stalling until temptress was usable but died at 8 mana because salamander just killed my ward-bats.
>>164815669
>Queen Vampire
>Midnight Vampire
This is your problem.
>>164815669
Kek fucking ungabloods are retarded
>>164815669
>tfw someone is too stupid to play ungacraft
wow
>>164815669
This is what happens when you use gamepress
Netdecks that are 3 months old
>>164815372
>>164815731
B the way, I just realized you're not running siggy. Any particular reason as to why?
>>164814936
Three Bahamuts is working out great, I'd recommend it
>>164815840
A card that does exactly this came out in this expansion
>>164815669
Copy this and unga
Consider the following
Forte for bloodcraft
Why doesn't the Havencraft prebuilt have Seraph? I can't open one reeeeee
>>164815952
Actually, game-ai has some incredibly outdated decks as well since they rely more on tournaments for meta information.
>>164815989
>Running Gobu
How's that working out?
>>164815874
Weren't you able to heal yourself back up?
Righteous Devil, Drain and all that other stuff.
>>164815980
Which one?
>>164815971
sieg is a meme card, just use coc instead
>>164815015
That's right, what are you going to do about it?
>>164816118
timeless witch
>>164815840
I replace those veteran alchemists with these. She made an aggro rage quit when I dropped her behind wards.
>>164816139
>Sieg is a meme
>CoC isn't a meme
>>164816118
http://usamin.love/card/timeless_witch/e_death.wav
>>164816096
No. I don't run devils, and didn't draw any other form of healing.
>>164815989
>8 1-drops
This better not catch on a large scale, otherwise Control Blood's ability to disguise itself as Aggro is going to go out the window.
>>164815834
damn, i want to play saha too, but i have only 1 luci
is it good? is it fun?
>>164815869
forte - legendary
seabrand - bronze
imprisoned - silver
shield - bronze
it's cheaper nigger
CoC is just a random factor that sometimes can be very useful, same as luci
Confl is for saving my ass from daria/shadow agro shit
shield angel is literally better than imprisoned if you want ward
Fire lizard is shit
JO is a retarded meme and it got old already
61444
13/20
>>164815421
Not a problem, needed a non rune matchup anyways
>>164816275
kill yourself, dubcuck
Delete Curate
>>164816282
I think you should (if you have them)
Even without the effect, the stat distribution is very strong.
Anyone have the nep deck with the celestial archer and is it any good?
>>164815971
it's a cool card
but i felt like he's out of place most of my games
>>164816374
>haven shitter ramming an evolved curate into my kawaii
Thanks for the heal, shitter.
>>164808426
I have 6 5-0s and like 150 wins total.
>>164816139
>Siegfried is a meme card
Just D rank things.
>>164815413
lmao keep crying faggots maybe you'll convince yourself you aren't shit at the game
>>164816414
I ran them for a while, but they get less effective as you climb higher in ranks. Almost nobody puts you into vengeance unless they mistake you for aggro. Thus, the only way to trigger their effect is a dire bond or something.
Even if I did have them, Forte can't be attacked.
>>164816216
>>164816225
>>164816275
>Runecraft
Nice meme, what do I do if I'm playing anything else?
>>164806095
>Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
remove this shit
it doesn't fucking work anymore
Finally out of A.
Glory Be!
Whoever I just beat in that 20 Turn Seraph Mirror, I just want to say that was some of the most fun I've had playing this game. Thank you Monpechi.
>>164816590
Just play in jap you shitter
>>164816297
1 Luci is enough. Sahaquiel is really fucking fun and actually pretty useful when combined with shit like Luci and Gilgamesh. Like I said, the deck is pretty flexible and has quite some space for creativity.
>>164816590
it does if you unlocked them
>>164815989
i use this netdeck, imo imp lancers are invaluable
>>164816094
looking for yurius/vampy/veight
>>164816523
t. D rank
What went wrong?
>>164816572
>Haven has heal
>Shadow has kawaii
>Forest has lion
>Blood has Drain
Play Lucifer if you are Sword or Dragon?
Is the Dragoncraft pre-built deck worth it?
Spoonfeed a Nepthys Shadowcraft list to me like I'm 3.
>>164816731
She was captured by Oboro and experimented on.
>>164816731
the left mask is cuter
>>164816775
if you need forte
>>164816572
>Every class gets the same tools
Go back to Hearthstone, bub
>managed to create some kind of working roach bounce
>too lazy to climb ladder from D1
>just enjoy unranked since lots of meme and fun decks everywhere
Should i try to reach at least C or B?
I swear I've been rerolling for a day and a half and nothing but shit or not enough to keep. It's sort of steering me away from the game at this point.
>can't win with Storm Haven either
fuck guys what's wrong with me?
So, when are they nerfing aggro bats? Kinda sick of dying on turn 5. Even though I have 3 wards on the board.
>>164815372
How come so many people said Dragonic Fervor was shit when it was announced?
How does roach forest deal with death breath? Also anyone have an update chart?
>>164816031
then why play dragon at this point? forte is the unique card they have
>>164816547
Sure, I can understand that. He's worked pretty well for me, but I have no doubt that your control deck is way different from mine since a large part of my game plan is to pretend I'm aggro for the opening part of the game. My deck is probably scrub tier and it'd be embarrassing to share.
http://usamin.love/card/dimension_shift/e_effect.wav
>>164816731
she become an edgy oppai
>>164816895
Cause no one had access to the card to mess around with it. Happens a lot.
>>164816860
I'm not convinced this is Storm Haven at all.
>>164816861
aggro bats are fine
Which craft is closest to Green in MtG
>>164816845
>not just picking a class and reroll until you get 2 copies (or 1 animaed copy) of a core legendary
You can start by not being too greedy.
>>164816756
>Kha-whey
>protecting from spell damage
uh, shadowbabs?
>>164815989
>>164816701
Stop running Imp Lancers and use Dark Generals.
>>164816968
She played Taimanin Asagi once.
>>164816895
A lot of players came over from Hearthstone and don't understand the idea of playing off curve or off tempo.
>>164817025
If you're talking ramp, dragon
>>164817014
no they are not they are cancer and you know it
>>164811192
love this meme
>>164817030
Surely enough your opponent is playing JO dragon and shooting 4 damage Angelic Snipe to your face.
Start packing on Unica and Healing Angel if you can't into saving your face.
I see people complain about Vengeance all the time, but I honestly think it's one of the most well-designed mechanics in the game (or at least, will be, when it gets better support).
Both players can interact with it and play around it, taking risks (with the opponent pushing into it, or the user taking self-damage) or playing safe. It's very enjoyable and creates amazing games where the Blood player rebounds after what seems to be an impossible situation. All the craft needs is a few new wards or a safer way to start vengeance and it'll be perfect.
>>164816860
>No Mainyu
>No Doggos
>Healing Prayer
>Eidolon
>>>>>>>Skullfam
I modified my JO deck and added Humpty Dumpty
r8
>>164816756
I was hit by 15 damage to the face through spells in one turn
>>164816826
>Neutral cards shouldn't exist
>>164817129
I'm talking about using and playing big guys
>>164816860
Get rid of healing prayer, eidilon, and skullfane.
add another 1-2 urds, another guardia, and fill the rest with mainyus.
can i play seraph elana with one seraph
>>164816297
That deck is only 2k vials cheaper, that isn't anything.
CoC is a useless in that deck, you have enough heavy cost followers as it is.
Confl is too cost heavy to be useful against aggro, at least now it is.
Imprisoned was never brought up from me.
Fire lizard is good against aggro.
JO was a joke.
Why isn't Forte in that deck?
>>164816931
they bounce their roaches back
>>164817140
face dragon can kill you just as fast, or aggro sword
Ramp Dragon has been pretty good in this rank.
>>164816860
Get rid of the healing prayers, Skull thane and the eidolon of madness. Get another Gauda, two more urds and/or a Moon Al'raj/themis's decree.
>>164817232
Explain. 3 copies of Piercing Rune and Crimson Sorcery?
>>164816931
Will of the Forest
>>16481725
All of them has big guys. Dragon gets them faster in board and tend to have haste.
>>164817221
>follower that is a meme
I'll let you off the hook this time just because of the meme.I run him too, he's a really pp-efficient way to clear the board
>>164817258
Dragon, again.
Word of warning; shadowverse is not kind to big dudes; the amount of kill spells is very high
>>164806278
Source?
>>164817340
>3 ward
Bounce roach back and deal no dmg
Huh?
>>164817481
Well okay. Is Dragon actually good though or will I get shit on by everyone on ladder
>>164817335
why her top looks about to burst?
http://usamin.love/card/gourmet_emperor_khaiza/j_evolve.wav
What is he sayng?
>>164817486
asuna from sword art online
>>164817494
oh, i misread for foul tempest
wards are kind of the answer to the cancer i guess
>>164806095
>/domg/
now dominions is tainted with the moe autistics faggots that spam anime grills
>>164817556
Ramp bahamut or ramp storm is tier 2, so its pretty good.
>>164817624
MY CUISINE IS SUPREME
Just went 8 wins in a row with this in masters. This is a really strong version of this deck if you guys want to try it out.
>>164817215
Not really, the issue is that vengeance cards aren't that great, and the ones that are great are played in a limited quanity because you aren't always going to be able to take advantage of vengeance.
It would be like having a sword deck with only a couple officers or commanders, or a haven deck with barely any countdown amulets. These are core aspects of the class that the devs want you to see often, so you can distinguish one class from another. Vengeance fails at this because it's effects are usually not that useful.
>>164817029
I have just been posting my rolls here and people keep telling me to reroll. I'm new so I don't even know what I'm doing.
>>164817710
i wouldn't eat those hairy carrots desu
Is sex with Unica bestiality?
>>164817494
>>164816931
>how come I cannot win with my deck that banks on the opponent not running any wards
Old Forest had Will of the Fuckers and Tia to clear the way before they throw the roach at me.
I had a game where 2 Death's Breath back to back were cleared by WotF and May.
>>164817793
Not if you're also a unicorn.
>>164817793
delet
>>164817335
>2k vials cheaper
doubt it
3 legs vs 3 bronze
>CoC is a useless
not so much, i like that 13/13 guy
>Imprisoned was never brought up from me
you said "shield angel". it's a replacement for him
>Fire lizard is good against aggro
i prefer unica
>forte
i dislike fortre in this exp because she get's removed too often. at least seabrand has 4 hp, can trade and he's 5pp
>>164817723
You can see it beats a variety of classes.
What new leaders do you want?
>>164817556
You have to learn the matchups with the deck. The current versions of the deck are pretty solid, but no one version will be good against everything. You'll have to play, tweak and tech it.
>>164817793
It don't matter
>>164817793
It's prostitution is what it is. Unica is actually a prostitute.
How do we fix Take Two? There's so much garbage RNG that you just lose to people who got better picks
>>164811117
Kids, Here is the perfect example of importance of Math. Roach Math are the essential of RoachCraft some can see 19 damage some can see 18,17,16,15.
>>164817723
is it possible top fit moon bun there? instead of one of sarissas or something? i want a deck where she is good
>>164817793
unica is pure, don't sexualize her!
btw she is an unicorn so don't care of non virgins
>>164817939
a neutral mercernary isn't a prostitute><
she should buy those loafs she eats for something
>>164817896
MOON BUN PLZ!!!!!
>>164817896
Cerberus!
>>164817723
>2x themis
>2x cuckgel
into the fucking trash
>>164817939
Delete this
>>164817871
forte has always been removed often. You use her for 5 to the face and then to let her die while occasionally winning a game with her because the other player didn't draw removal.
>>164817896
dragon rowen
replace every line with [ROAR]
>>164809489
this shit's baffling, there's not many cards that are absolute horseshit but the majority of them are blood cards
look at soul dealer for christ's sake
At what rank does meme banner stop working?
>>164817793
>>164817939
DELETE
Anybody have a good list for nepnep?
>>164817896
this
i am instantly the heaven's main
>>164818017
or this.... i am kind of torn
>>164818095
blood was supposed to put themselves into vengeance for cool buffs, lol
>get 3 packs
>0 gold cards
why is this allowed?
>>164818057
this exp added too much removals
>>164816804
2478 Nep is best Nep. You guarantee at least a Mordo and a Kewh.
>>164817896
Tsubaki
>>164818014
>a neutral mercernary isn't a prostitute ><
>she should buy those loafs she eats for something
She does the "unicorn dance" and heals you. Hmmmm, I wonder what kind of dance it is?
Perhaps "unicorn" is a metaphor for something else long and pointy?
I mean there is precedent for healers being prostitutes in SV. Just look at pic related.
>>164818024
You only have three evolve points, you will often find that lion is better than themis or cudgel. You should try out the new lion it card it is quite op, especially against aggro blood and tempo rune.
>>164817946
>pick forest
>get fairy generator
>get yuel, pegasus elf and archer
>proceed to beat the opponent while using EP only sparingly
I have been following the cheat sheets and have 17 5-0 so far.
>>164807670
I can't seem to understand how Roach does so much damage.
From what I understand the goal is to get 4-5 fairies to 0pp, drop 4 then drop roach for 5 damage, then ancient elf, and 2 more fairies and the same roach? Then just do the same thing the following turn?
Am I understanding the concept correctly? What turn is supposed to be lethal?
>>164817896
Out of those I think the only good ones would be Merlin and Saber. The others are pretty gimmicky and not in a good way.
I'd prefer the opposite approach, make a new character and introduce them as a leader, then make them into a card later.
>>164818014
She's alright in Elana because she's very hard to kill when buffed, but that's more a personal choice, you don't really get much benefit for adding her in. Moon fits pretty well in Storm.
someone post that granblue minigob voice clip where she goes "ehehe something something gobbu" please
>>164818030
I'm not judging. Unica is just a girl who has to feed herself.
Where do you think all that bread comes from?
>>164818227
post a cheat sheet link pls!
>>164811117
>play your roach last needs thinking
Like, as much thinking as throwing a Coco at your opponent's face so you can have enough shadow for 5 ghosts.
Who /sleeves/ here
What are your thoughts on this card?
>>164818172
So? Forte is still the better option over Seabrand, considering what >>164818057 said. Her storm isn't conditional and her overflow condition makes it so she can't be traded into, so that makes her pretty much an auto include in every deck.
where is the luna nude mod>?
>>164818095
most of bloods cards seem like they were designed for being able to maintain vengeance after healing yourself up. Vengeance is just a really shitty version of overflow right now.
>>164817723
I'll give it a go, I've been looking for an excuse to use Sarissa and I can replace a Seraph with Odin or Bahamut.
>>164818014
Moon Al-Mi'raj is a, Storm Haven card.
>>164818024
Dunno about him but Priest hasn't been doing me a shitload of good lately to be honest.
>Daria aggro is one of the best decks this expansion.
>but also the one that relies most heavily on draw RNG.
Is this when shadowverse slowly becomes Hearthstone?
wow the lack of respect for revelation from this guy is unreal
he literally threw away the entire game on this play
>>164818401
her face looks cunning indeed
>>164818453
but storm heaven sucks
>>164818401
TRASH
>>164818175
That deck will brick 90% of the time, way too much late game.
>>164818398
Just got the this morning senpai. Feels good.
>>164818401
I liked it in my last Dragon arena run.
>>164818353
http://imgur.com/a/G5kGb
Generally, picking the pair with highest total score is the right choice unless you need to consider your curve.It's in the OP, you know?
>>164817871
800 = 16 bronze
2,600 = 13 silver
4,000 = 5 gold
21,000 = 6 legendary
That is 28,400, how do you think having 6 legendary cards won't make your deck expensive?
Forte is a 5 storm, it doesn't matter if she gets removed easily. That is far too much face damage to pass up.
>start winning in unranked
>move over to ranked
>get the absolute worst bricking draws known to mankind multiple games in a row
STOP
>>164818456
Not until you can start randomly drawing any card in the game instead of just in your deck.
>>164818112
>stop
>>164818095
Soul dealer isnt so bad. You can do blood mary into soul dealer for lethal on turn 9 if you are still alive by then. It does 10 dmg if you have full health and ward.
>>164818245
If you chip at least 5 damage you can easily lethal at turn 6
>>164816895
The release of RoB has shown me that 90% of the svg population consists of sub A shitters. Never listen to them.
>Bahamut
>lul dies to DoD, trash card
>fervor
>lul tempo loss, trash card
>>164818402
>>164817871
Scenario, you're scuba diving and you see this swimming nearby...
what do?
>>164818581
oh, ty
i had to read the op more carefully
>>164817871
You sound like a Timmy, which I guess makes sense since you play Dragon
>>164818595
Daria = Yogg confirmed?
>Put Bahamut in CSword
>Win
What a nice card. This is how you do it, not Deathwing
>>164818402
but her "can't traded into" is conditional and 1 hp is laughable
with 4 hp seabrand can't be removed by a lot of stuff, which is very helpful, plus he costs 1 pp less which is sometimes crucial. Plus you can get 2 seabrands at 10pp for 8 damage or 10 if 1 evolved.
I still testing him, but seems like it's better
>>164818498
it's not meant to be aggro, anon
>>164817896
Daria would be fun
>>164816860
This list has pretty much cruised to C rank in 3 days
>>164818657
pretend i am a mermaid and adore him!
>>164818763
>staring at 2 mordecai across the board
Nice deathwing you got there.
>>164818595
i doubt sv will reach to this point
>>164809163
>Isabelle
>Strategize carefully to control the board!
I burst out laughing, holy shit
strategically playing levi before piercing rune to control the board
>>164818589
what are you comparing this to? I'm comparing it to netdeck i posted earlier
>>164818850
You really think I wouldn't be running Odins in Shadowverse: Heroes of Shadowcraft right now?
>>164818763
>Play Bahamut
>Open dumps their hand
>Play second Bahamut
>They concede
I really like, especially in combination with Sahaquiel. Pulling it with her starts a fucking psychological warfare on your opponent.
Help me make my ambush sword deck.
Missing one more Tsubaki.
The idea of the Cyclone Blades is that I go face with everyone except for whoever my strongest is and then clear the board with it.
>>164818763
>control sword
>winning ever
Lol he drop 3 saber and frontline general and cant even win against wolf forest. I dont think it can win against seraph haven either.
He ragequit dc too.
>>164818770
what do you think, should face dragon run both forte and seabrand or it makes it too top heavy?
>>164818850
>galopping noise of 6 legged horse intensifies
>>164818924
That net deck costs 30,550.
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/appmedia-ramp-dragoncraft
>similar to Hearthstone /hsg/
is this entire board just thirsty for /hsg/ dick?
Please stop putting this shit in your general. It's poor etiquette.
>>164818770
To each their own then. Forte is still better though.
>>164818720
No, you = illiterate retard confirmed.
I was told Elana Haven was a legend-less deck, but when I asked for a list, I was given a list with legends in it. Is there a viable list without any?
>>164818986
Albert.
Put him in.
>dust Seraph
>pull Eidolon
sounds about right
>>164819105
i am thirsty forsweathy anon'sdick !
>>164819105
Its to remind /hsg/ how dead their general is compared to /svg/. Literally 7 posts in the last half an hour
>>164819180
replace legendaries with curate
done
>>164818939
>>164819034
Oh, sure. You got in for one single hit. I will just tell Nep to call Kawaii in. Thanks for the heal.
>>164817221
need uriel to get the amulets
>>164819018
Dunno, it can fuck up emissary
Face is bad for the same reason - too much removals for forte to survive untill urd if you are not at 10pp
Any Wolfbolt anon's here? Can someone post a decklist?
>>164819105
>etiquette against blizzarddrones
No, fuck them.
>>164819180
Just put 3x Elana, 3x Cudgel, 3x Themis, 3x Beastcall Aria, and every healing card you own.
>classic set has Saber (Aurelia)
>rise has Proto Saber (Albert)
is there an aka seiba clone in RoB or is this all we're getting
If I'm Haven and playing Shadow what should be my priority banish? The ones that make Liches?
>>164819018
face dragon exists to end the game on turn 7 at the latest with dragon emissary and forte. use emissary on turn 4 to draw forte because she's the only thing about 5+ cost in the deck. Play evolved forte on turn 5 to hit face for 7. Play Forte again on turn 6. Play forte again on turn 7 if you couldn't do 6 damage to them before turn 5.. The game is over.
>>164819318
well if you don't use emissary too...
>>164819318
>Urd
You're thinking about Storm Dragon.
>>164819227
>>164819228
Have we wronged you in some way? Congratulations on your activity. Generally speaking, we just want to be able to search our general and click the first link and not see some weeb game come up.
>>164819385
Always save one banish for mordecai, this is a very easy match up so you should be able to deal with the 4/4s quite easily.
>>164819387
that sounds so brickeable
>>164819430
where do you think you are at ?
>>164818482
Not really, its also inexpensive, just give it a go.
what did /domg/ ever do to you fags
>>164819372
We'll start getting all of Aurelia and Albert's alt versions in every expansion from now on
>>164819395
If you dont use emmisary as any dragoncraft you lost. Its the best tutor card in the game. If it was in any other class it would break the game.
>>164819430
""our"" general lmao
Is hsg so dead that you know each poster by name now
What's the craft tier list for t2 since RoB?
>>164819430
We hate Hearthstone
>>164819528
>Deck full of low cost followers sans Forte
>HURR DURR BRICK CITY OVER HERE
Fuck off back to D rank.
>>164819083
what do you want
odins need to counter khawy shit, morde shit and seraph.
Sometimes just to banish something that's in the way of bahamut's lethal
And bahamut is basically a core for this deck
You can run Satan, but he doesn't clear
With genesis+bahamut unevolved you have 20hp lethal
>>164819372
there's literally a flower Saber.
Not sure where else to ask for help on this. I can play any other game on my desktop that are more graphically demanding than this game (such as Witcher 3) but when I play shadowverse, after several minutes my comp bluescreens.
Has anyone has this issue and have found a work-around?
>>164819430
you went here to whine
i think it was in the op post like forever and was put there so people who skim /vg/ knew what shadowverse is
>>164819280
>>164819351
Is Uriel good in that deck?
>>164819409
wait, no urd in face?
isn't it basically the same thing?
ok then
T2 dragon vs shadow in rob pls respond
>>164819758
Yes quite good run 3 of.
I'm so tired. I just want to get to master so I can play my meme decks in peace. But none of my decks are good enough to climb in this meta. And yet, I also don't want to become part of the problem.
What should I do? Is there some hidden deck out there that works in this meta? I tried storm haven and it didn't go great.
>>164819430
Just so you know, I don't personally hate you guys. The game is just too shit to be enjoyable right now. Literally the last time I had fun with the game was when I played in the /hsg/ tourney and won, and that was because there was a banlist and I could use my favorite decks and fight against some meme decks as well.
>>164819430
Sounds like you need to be taught a lesson
>>164819834
play your meme decks in unranked
is it worth running serpent force in face dragon as a ward-clearer that doesn't dilute dragon emissary
>>164819372
>>164819673
Not actually Aurelia but here's Saber Alter.
>>164819910
I won't get any score rewards if I do that.
>>164819587
From what I have tried myself
>Forest actually gets better with Forest Sprite and Pegasus Elf. It is a dreadful feeling to know that your best follower will be reduced to a fairy chump
>Sword gets Amelia and Fangslayer, both good Gold to include. Just let them flood and then throw an Amelia at them on turn 4
>Rune is actually not as bad as it's used to with more cards supporting earth rune from Dwarf Alchemist to Taboo
My priority pick is changed from Forest > Sword > Shadow > Rune to Forest > Sword > Rune > Shadow. Shadow doesn't really have anything new to bring to T2.
any changes to face dragon?
>>164819594
I love Otohime
>that tournament
>mirror aggrobats
>amount of Yuriuses decides the gane
This is what happens when you Forte > Urd > Evolve Forte on turn 9, than turn 10 Evolve Genesis Dragon
>levi, a 2-cost follower, can kill an evolved Albert, a 5/9-cost follower
hmm
>>164820015
>>Forest actually gets better with Forest Sprite and Pegasus Elf. It is a dreadful feeling to know that your best follower will be reduced to a fairy chump
do any forest decks even run those?
forest seems as roach math currently
>>164819981
I'm stupid and forgot the image.
>>164820130
take 2, anon
>>164820048
>>164820130
T2, son. Follow the post chain.
I know Forestfucker is as optimized as it is to include those.
>>164820063
Shadow has a 2 cost that can kill Albert also.
Would x3 of otohime banquet be a good enough for control sword? I think I have an Alexandr or two
>>164820062
>opponent didnt use any evolve
How is D rank?
>>164820219
otohime is shit right now
i literally died to matriarch because of her
I got memed by that one defensive Haven deck in ranked
I forgot what's it name
Can someone breakdown how roach is supposed to work? Just drew two of them and I already have 3 ancient elves.
I know it works around having 3-4 0-fairies, but I don't understand how you're supposed to out-aggro things. It seems like it takes too long to get the amount of fairies before T4-T5 unless I'm misunderstanding.
>>164820345
guardian satan?
>>164819959
Do you not have Breath of the Salamander? Given the choice, I would run that instead.
>>164820215
Yes, but how many lists include that swiss-army-knife of a ghostdeathtouch =/= 3 damage anywhere
>>164820251
I'm A2. Maybe that Luna was just a dummy
has there eer been an /svg/ tourney before?
>>164820170
My wife
>>164820403
yes
>>164820376
>>164820345
it's called "sun satan"
>>164820048
>>164820170
Protect Otohymen!
>>164820048
Cumming on Otohime's 5head!
help
>>164820345
>>164820474
Nah, I looked up the card. It's Laelia
>>164820364
https://youtu.be/kzw8DfBUGI0
Watch this. If you still dont get it stick with another unga bunga class.
>>164820571
If you need help for this you're fucking stupid.
>>164820392
>>164820215
Has anyone messed around with Voices of Resentment?
Two guaranteed kills on any unit for 8 mana can be super useful in control games as I've found in T2.
>>164820571
Help with what? Like Forte isn't an auto-pick whenever she shows up.
>>164820571
Easy right
>>164820651
Oh and this is a same turn kill card. It's not like Spectre where you have to keep it alive for a turn.
>>164820571
As useful as polyphonic roar can be in T2, left all day every day.
>>164820637
>>164820672
don't bully according to the cheat sheet both are the same value
>>164820651
I run two copies in my reaper deck. Cleans up bats just fine and can fuel the reaper when played along with a sexton.
>>164820571
Right for value
Left for finishers
Find out what you think you need.
>>164820790
Forte vs Polyphonic Roar is a tough choice, I'll give you that.
Genesis Dragon just beats the pant off Orb Dragon. It's not even close.
>>164820651
Yes. It's a really good card for Control Shadow; it's additional "fuck you" to big guys and spell walls.
It's also a mini Howl for the purpose of Cerberus, and is generally just an ACTUAL swiss-army-knife for Shadow
>every seraph is running soul collector now
why
>>164820841
So you mostly end up using it as a 3 mana, mini-Howl instead of for the bane kills?
>>164820790
>107 to 129
Son...
>>164820869
Orb is a hard removal stapled to a big fat dragon. Literally Odin on steroid in T2.
>>164820873
Cool. It was saving my ass in T2 so I wondered if it would be useful in constructed.
>>164820937
i suppose reaper deck means aggro shadow
>>164820651
I use it in aggro.
>>164818398
I would never use that flat chest midget over Queen Vampire.
>>164820869
>polyphonic roar
>in take 2 where people have bahamut
Idiot the orb dragon is more useful than poly roar since it kills bahamut
>>164820790
then the cheat sheet sucks
>>164820632
Thanks anon!
>>164820937
>>164820996
Depends on the board condition. I had games where I pushed in 8 damage with Coco&Mimi when I don't see any Phantom Howl too.
Killing off two fat elana followers is not too shabby late game either.
>>164821015
>>164820986
Did I say that Orb dragon wasn't useful? I'm just saying that Genesis Dragon is a better card.
I think it's literally the most powerful storm card in the game.
That's just better than removal, period.
>>164820790
>Thinks I'm using a cheat sheet
>Thinks I'm not picking solely based on waifu heart-of-the-cards carry
Follow the memes, not the sheets
>>164820902
The idea is that you want the board clear on turn 8 so that you can safely play seraph. The issue at hand is that decks are so aggressive that they look to close the game at turn 7. The death sentence is simply too slow. I prefer luxhorn. See my deck here.
>>164817723
>>164820651
I just put it in my aggro deck today and it's been useful.
If you guys had to pick between making Daria Rune or Nepthys Shadow, which would you pick?
>>164821009
>>164821136
Thanks anons, will have to try it in my aggro deck. What do you slot out for it in a typical aggro deck?
>Khalway kill Tsubaki through Ambush
Why is this allowed? randomly targeted is still target spell
>Wake up
>Look up /svg/ thread
>retarded unga bunga forced meme image on the OP
>It even has fucking /domg/ for some reason
Guess its time to quit this game. Why do good games always have to be ruined by reddit autists
"YOU USE A VIABLE DECK, UNGA BUNGA XDDD "
>>164821220
Neph Shadow
Then take out the Nephs and play controll
>>164821220
Daria if you want to climb the ladder.
Nep if you want to be a nuisance to people trying to counter Daria while climbing the ladder.
>>164821265
The meme in the OP is a joke and fanart that was actually MADE by a /svg/ regular.
everything was fine until discord
>>164821265
>Implying that isn't just 4chan
If one meme upsets you then you probably shouldn't be here in the first place
>>164821225
I dropped Dark Conjurers for it in aggro.
I wasn't getting the extra effect often enough because my evolved guys would almost always just die the next turn.
Is Nepthys a good Legendary? I got 3 of them in my free packs
>people in D rank with perfect dorothy decks
Fuck this.
>>164821265
>quitting the game instead of just the thread full of autistic manchildren
No better than those retards.
>>164821265
let me guess you play ungablood
quit then no one is going to miss you the game could do with one less unga shitter
>>164821362
Also, I'm pretty sure that reg actually plays bat aggro and is a huge Vampi fan, hence why they drew that piece for us.
>>164821385
Oh that's a good call. Always been pretty meh on conjurer even if she's 10/10 waifu.
>>164821265
Calm down dude it's just a joke. People only use unga bunga ironicallyI hope
>>164817896
Skullfane needs an emblem.
>>164821391
>Shitters always assume everyone they meet have a perfect deck when most of the time it's new players netdecking and running half the recommended cards, 1 Daria instead of 3, 2 Levi etc
>>164821265
vampykissface!
Hey what happened to my game's ability to calculate damage. You know when you're holding a card and you can see how much damage it would do to something. I tried looking at my settings and I don't see an option to turn it back on what gives
New bread
>>164821537
>>164821537
>>164821537
Now with new link for the T2 cheat sheets
>>164821525
Then they're the luckiest faggots in the world to consistently draw all the right dorothy cards.
>>164821569
I think it was removed to dissuade mindlessness.
>>164821569
RoB took out babmode.
Now you have to be able to do addition subtraction like a real nip
>>164821594
Welcome to card games, even with full perfect Daria decks people are masters don't get it off consistently. If you're that upset at D rank maybe card games aren't for you.
>>164821225
Go nuts
>>164820282
>control sword
> unga bunga me can't go face anymore