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Smug goddess edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/ and made by CYGAMES same company of /gbfg/ /domg/.
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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Summoned and Destroyed: >>164806095
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I want to make Luna pregnant!
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Is Pure Seraph the best Haven deck out there right now?

I've tried all the variants, and they all get shit on like there's no tomorrow. I can't believe it, but Storm feels so sluggish, and Elana doesn't feel consistent enough at all this format.
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Report and ignore all unga bunga posters
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>>164821537
>Those neps
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>>164821643

Yeah it actually is right now.
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>>164821537

>8PP to drop 2 5/5 heal their face and fuck your board

Balanced card.
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http://usamin.love/card/gunner_maid_seria/j_summon.wav
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>>164821643
Yes it is, I would argue it is the only viable haven deck at the moment.
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Why is everyone so terrible at arena?
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Elves are love, elves are life
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More Gunner cards WHEN
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>>164821814
Netdecking makes people brainless when it come's to making/playing other decks
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Really glad they took out the death calculator. Did Nips complain about it?
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Is Nepthys a good Legendary? I got 3 of them in my free packs,should I liquid some to create other cards?
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Dragoncraft is no longer a meme
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>>164821710
>The meta revolves around board flooding
>Not running control board clears

I agree it's stupid and anti-fun, but it's not like it doesn't have a counter. It just sucks that you can't out-think and out-play your opponent anymore due to the mindless flood.
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>it's a "forest player had lethal but miscounted and missed out by 1 hp" episode
My favorite
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geg
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>>164821650
>>164821667

What really? But why.

It's just a nice quality of life thing, why take it away
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>>164821902
See if you like shadowcraft first. You're set for the most expensive part of a pretty decent deck
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>>164821887

It always makes me nervous whenever I drop a board clear now.

The death calculator was kind of a reassurance that yes, this will indeed wipe the board.
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>>164821978
Mm I think I will, I have a cerberus too, maybe that's the way to go
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>>164821759

That's the voice of Madoka.
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>>164821902
Are you running last word necro?
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>>164822010
>>164821972

It is abit scary without it but I like that it forces you to understand exactly how the card works. No just hovering for the death icon.
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>>164821878
>implying the dipshit feeders in T2 have even ever bothered to look up a netdeck
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This is my DShift deck and I've been stuck in A0 for over a week (I was climbing with no problem before). Any tips? I feel like Conjure Golem and Summon Iceform are rarely useful.
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>>164821972
Probably because they wanted to make it seem like RoB isn't full of mindless cards, so instead of mindlessly attacking, now you you have to think a little about attacking; in exchange for not thinking about the cards you play.
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Is Seraph vs Seraph just an autolose if you're going second? I don't want to tech in Odin for a single matchup but I don't see any other way to interact with that card
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RULAR OF DA SKY!!
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>tfw low rank
>was told it's a shame to lose there
>now i am scared to play low rank because some people there actually have very good decks or at least very good draws

i want a or aa so i could lose shamelessly to my heart content
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>>164822072
No, I just have a cheap deck that I made when SV got realeased on steam, I haven't played since but I want to pick it up again.
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>>164822150
A deck like this is simply not going to work anymore, try to make it a hybrid between d-shift and aggro.
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>>164822182

BOW BEFORE DA DORK DRAGOON
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>>164822198

It's okay to lose games, but you also have to win some of the games
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>>164822182
Patricians use Rowen though
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>>164822182
coal burner
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>>164821902
She's terrible, if you want to play shadow you're better off playing aggro. If you really want to play something you can vial her, otherwise I'd wait and see if cygames ever decides they want shadow to be viable.
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>>164822150
>summon snow

You can try remove that for a start.
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>>164821945
>It just sucks that you can't out-think and out-play your opponent anymore
>anymore
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>>164822280
Mushu is a cool card
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>>164821931
back to /gbfg/ kiddoi
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>>164822458

I want a pet Mushu AND a pet dork.
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give white wolf deck please

i already wasted 3500 vials on this
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>Can't even get one ranked win
>Need 4 for dailies

Kill me.
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>>164822198
I feel ya homie, but you have to understand that SV ranking system is extremely forgiving.

Besides, the only people who will judge you are elitist memers. Be a man, and don't play the fotw decks just for the easy climb. Because people in higher ranks will constantly shit on you if you take the easy road. And your rank means nothing if you play like a D-rank with an A symbol.
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>>164822319
rowen isn't shaved and not in a cute way
it annoys me, i want my men shaved
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>Vampy-chan puts herself into lethal with Azrael
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>>164822463
yeah fuck that
i actually looked forward to finally play sword and bought 2 prebuild decks for it
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Can someone please link the new aggro blood list? I think what I'm using is sub-optimal.
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Shadow fucks over dragon so damn hard seriously.
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Roach math app when?
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Is Ramp Dragon really a Control deck? I usually finish games way faster compared to other control decks considering all the big guys with Storm
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>>164822624
nobody cares, fuccboi
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This is my slightly bad Daria deck, how easily can I get to masters with this?
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>>164822238
Which cards should I use if I'm not going full Daria?

>>164822332
Why? Half the games I still win is won because of it
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>>164822607
>the phone tinkled
>oh god let it be not 7 ranked/unranked wins
>it is 7 ranked/unranked wins

>>164822796
t: neckbeard
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>>164822791

It's called Ramp because that's what it is.
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>>164822814
I think there's something wrong with your Oglers
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>Turn 1 pass
>Turn 2 pass
>Turn 3 Dire Bond
>Turn 4 lethal'd
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>>164821951
My favourite episode from today was a Sword player casting Albert for game but only attacking once, leaving me on one hp and handing me the win
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>>164822835
>fuccboi complaining about the best possible daily
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>>164821643
>>164821707
>>164821801
What about Elana Seraph? Its only counter is D-shift.
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>>164822553
i want a waifu dork so we can cuddle and handhold under sheets
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>>164822592
>3500 vital only

Kek

Not picture is 3 may and 3 nature guidance. You can swap the master of canopied for something else but at turn 6 usually you have a full hand so its useful. Force them to waste a turn with Dance of death or evolve point.
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>>164822814
replace cache with clarke and kaleido with angelic snipe
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>>164822835
>Waah i dont want free packs
kys
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>>164822997
I run cache specifically because I'm missing the third Clarke. Many of the decks seem to be running Kaleido though, is that some new change or based on some deficiency in my list?
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>>164822960
but the best daily is 6 ranked wins
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what if slamander's breath 2nd dmg happened after last word effects?
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Is ladder still full of Shadowcraft?
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>>164822198
Keep an eye on the decks in here, see how they work and the advice people give. Use this to learn the basics of the meta and what cards are dangerous along with how to deal with them
Play the faction you like and brew your own deck, over time change it to be more efficient as you learn it inside and out. If your opponent isn't familiar with your decks style but you know theirs you have a significant advantage, it's also fun to play your own way for both you and any opponents sick of the same few decks
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> ungaa bunga me can't go face anymore
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>>164822909
too true
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>>164823263

Yes, and they hand out free concedes whenever you Yurius+Veight on curve They don't even know I'm running a Control Blood that's completely unprepared for the control matchup.
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>Vampy will never grind on your face
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>>164822978
i've seen your deck but I just can't imagine Canopies being useful.

Why not just use Maahes instead?
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With Seraph vs Nephthys shit should I tech in more banish effects?
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>>164822963
Playing a useless card on turn three will lose you the game in some match ups, also because of the raw power of tribunal vs adding extra healing cards, it is better to go pure seraph.
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>>164823304
>play broken card
>lol im so gud at ths game lol

Thats you right now. Stop being a faggot.
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>>164822791
the sahaquiel version is definitely control, very grindy
i don't know where you got the idea that storm ramp is control though
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>>164823304
yes, we know that khawy is a cancer

at least they could make him legendary
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>>164823421
It's not like Banish is bad. Is Acolyte and Decree not working for you?
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>>164823450

t. mad unga bat aggro retard
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>>164822963
Elana has way more counters than just Dshift
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>>164822198
Low rank isn't necessarily a shame. Imagine if someone who was a pro at card games started playing this game, he'd have to climb the ranks too. And just because someone has a good deck doesn't mean they know how to play with it. Just climb as far as you can in ranked until you started doing very badly. Once you hit that, check the metagame and see if your deck is outdated. If it's not, you're not playing correctly for your level.
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>>164823380
Y-yes she will
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>>164823454
Unga bunga vampy go face
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>>164823375
Don't they just crash lurching corpse into veight then?
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>>164823450
>>164823454
ungafags complaining about shadow LOL
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>>164823452
I just assumed a Dragon deck having lots of high mana followers was Control, but turns out its delayed Unga Bunga instead

Its a good deck
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Can someone give me some advice on beginner decks for Story.

I always lose a lot in the last chapter due to inefficient decks. I can't win with just auto created ones. Do I really have to make proper decks for that mode?
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Steam was a mistake.
I miss the days when we could just talk about cutes and didn't have to put up with /hsg/ tier posting.
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any ideas on how I can refine these memes? I'm thinking about -3 woodkin curse and +1 will of the forest +2 homecoming. I'm not sure about fairy knight either. I might be better off with dance of death or that new pegasus elf.
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>>164822791
Storm Ramp isn't a control deck. The version with Sahaquiel shenanigans is the control form of the deck.
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>>164823604
Are all follower-based decks considered unga bunga then?
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>>164823619
>cutes
Underage shitposter detected
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>>164823594
They can but that's a pretty slow turn if it destroys the bat or Veight. If they don't have corpse or removal you basically win the game and if they do it's not a big deal because the deck is too slow.
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>>164823617
No. Play the defaults like a man.

All the defaults are perfectly capable of being the story. Don't be a pussy.
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>>164823669
I'm just memeing anon
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>t2
>drop genesis dragon
>"waiting for opponent's connection"
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>>164822459
Okay buddy we gotta sort you out, post your deck and we'll go from there
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>>164823619
W-We can still cutepost if you want to...
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>>164821710
>Shadow surviving until tier 8 against hyper-aggro
>If they even have the Nep on turn 8 and don't get fucked by all the Odin tech from Seraph bullying it
It's a meme-tier deck. Control Blood works vastly better.
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>>164823594

Haven't seen a corpse yet

I think they've been bricking.
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>>164823617
just go to any netdeck site (gamewith.jp, game-ai.jp with google translate, shadowverse.gamepress.gg), find a cheap deck and try to make it substituting the cards that you don't have for something else

theoretically story is beatable with the basic deck but it will be a challenge

btw you also should beat all the practice (elite) leaders for rupees and they are harder than the story too
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>>164823424
Fair enough. You don't need to play it on curve though. With all the removal haven has you can wait until you have board control. It's a pretty decent alt wincon or at least stall until you draw Seraph and three countdowns.

>>164823542
I meant Elana Seraph.
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>>164823534
There are a lot more Mordes now and sometimes I don't draw my wards. sometimes I'm out of evolves by then too
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>>164823604
forte is a qt
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>>164823640
I'm guessing you're relying on Face Thorns to win T-9?
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Whats the best shadowcraft deck atm?
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I can't tell what lack of game sense bothers me more, aggro bats who can't figure out how to win a super favorable matchup vs Nep Shadow or the people who think Khawy isn't a great card just because it got stuck on the unfinished class.
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>>164823998
Aggro
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>>164823604
not even delayed

it's unga bunga with a wincon
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Do I keep these?
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>>164823604
Post your deck please
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>>164824056
Grats on your Daria deck
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>>164823617
You need to change your decks to beat the story, but you don't need to open a single pack to do it. I did it myself.

Honestly if I had trouble I either made a face deck, or I realized that certain cards in my deck weren't good for the match and switched them out. For example, not using Minotaur against Forest.
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>>164823393
Personally i would swap it with another homecoming but im too cheap to create another one.
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fair and balanced
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Urgh never queen or mary. Or Olivia or Bahamut.

Which poison do I take here fellas
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>>164824036
As a havenfag I say he will get nerfed for sure.
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>>164823640
Just play 3 Rose Queen and drop the wolves or play Silver Bolt because wolf/queen don't go together.
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>>164824056
Do you want to play aggro rune? If yes - keep. If no - reroll.
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>>164823393
is maahes any good? i thought he was a dust fodder
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>>164823640
How do you even survive until turn 9 with that? Rose Queen also really needs full hand of faeries so you can just lethal from 20, otherwise you might as well just play the Silver Bolt Variant.
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>>164821801
I think the adjusted Storm lists are still a solid high T2 once you get used to it. I agree pure Seraph is the more consistent option now, but Elana/Seraph is still a good deck, also high T2. Pure Elana gets bullied too hard by other Control decks and/or Bahamut though.
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>>164824056
>Dusting leggos

Don't be a bab. Make your vials elsewhere.
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>>164824130
Just RNG the ogler
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Is every deck Unga?

>Rune
>Levi-Piercing unga
>Sword
>pure unga bunga
>dragon
>turn 1 conceed unga
>Forest
>roach face bunga
>Shadowcraft
>nep unga
>bloodcraft
>1-2-3 drop bunga
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>>164823721
Is it more optimal to play veight even if they have a lurching corpse? I've always avoided doing so since I was afraid of the one in three chance that it kills my yurius.
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>>164824056
Grats. Dust other leggos. Make Daria deck
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>>164824226
Wrong card. That's the shitty 1 turn stealth card he has on board.
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>>164824063
You can get rid of the Odins when the Shadowcraft hubbub dies down

https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.4.5_394.5_394.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.5_38w.5_38w.5_38w.62vkA.62vkA.62vkA.6AaSQ.6AaSQ.6AaSQ.62sZM.62sZM.62sZM.61PnY.61PnY.5_4sI.5_4sI.66j8S.66j8S.66j8S.61NLm.61NLm.61NLm.6AY0A.6AY0A.6AY0A.62zty.62zty.fpoFo.65GMy.65GMy.694Vo.694Vo.694Vo.62xRi.62xRi
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>>164823998
Aggro. Shadow control relies on too many combo memes that may or may not happen depending on your draw. Aggro can end the match before control can even think of dropping any of their good cards.
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>>164824141

Looking at your curve, Arthas isn't going to topdeck you anything, so Righteous is better than him.

Meme dealer might screw you over, but his stats don't blow.

It depends on how safe you want to play it.
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>>164824285

Say that to my reapers, not online, see what happens
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>>164823825
I actually already defeated all the elite practice leaders. Now moving on to story. But since I don't have much from other crafts except for Rune, I'm getting challenged at the final chapter always.
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>>164824239

It's a shitty forced meme made by salty faggots who can't get a win, ignore it.
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>>164824305
Yes please drop the odins
GLORY BE
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>>164824420
>Arthas
Huh?
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I understand why a second Mord pops up when you use Urd on Mord, but it triggers me because thematically it makes no sense
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>>164824263
It depends on your hand, but it's usually not optimal. Not for the reason you'd think though, it's more because Yurius + 1 drop on turn 3 is impossible for shadow to deal with from that board state. Even summon bloodkin + 1 drop forces them to have foul tempest or straight up lose most of the time.

If you have to Veight into a lurching corpse it's not the worst play in the world though.
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>>164824530
Neither does running 3 of the same card or having leaders that are also cards
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>>164824420
>Arthas
<3
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>>164823857
Seraph seeks to end the game on turn 9, perfect game should go like this.

Turn 1: Sacred Plea or pass
Turn 2: Unica, beastcall or Snake priestess (depending on your taste)
Turn 3: Prism Priestess, or another two drop
Turn 4: if going second cudgel, if going first tribunal, worst case scenario go for a three drop or try to activate your beast call with countdown card.
Turn 5: If you have board control draw cards with radiance or prism priestess. If no board control, evolve a small drop and use a scripture.
Turn 6: themis or lion if no board control. If board control draw cards.
Turn 7: try to charge a luxhorn, or do the same thing as turn 6
Turn 8: Seraph
Turn 9: Win

You should be doing this every game, adding Elena cards just slows this process down.
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>>164824483
Blame avatarfags, they do that all the time.
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>>164824461
>Discard dragon
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>>164824509

Instead of saying Ice Blade (Frostmourne) Warfiend, people in this general sometimes call him Arthas. The similarities in their backstory have enough parallels.
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>>164824509
Ice blade looks a lot like Arthas from WoW.
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>>164824471
If all else fails just throw lots of big wards and removal in the deck. The AI decks generally don't carry a lot of removal, so once you wear them down you win. If you're really having trouble keep quitting until you go 2nd for the extra evo.
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>>164824498
I was going to but now I won't!
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How many free packs do you get if you start now?
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>>164824605
What's the point of Luxhorn in this list vs more removal or early game?
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>>164824639
>Horns
>griffon
>arabian sword
U drunk?
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>>164824725
I got 38
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>>164824725
1
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>>164824725
61 I think
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Need concede 41542
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>>164823963
you can only do 12 damage on turn 9 so you need until turn 10 if your opponent is still at 20.

>>164824153
I was using 2 before the new expansion, but with the wolf you can still thorn burst turn 9 and you don't have to save an evolve point to try to kill something on turn 8. the only problem is when there's nothing to kill the wolf with on turn 8.

>>164824183
it's not hard getting enough fairies by the time you play rosetta. the problem is that it's so slow and that forest doesn't really have that good control options.
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>>164822902

>I just wanted to summon something cool. But look at the ugly beastie I ended up with! —A student of Mysteria Academy

> couldn't get away from the creature, but it grew on me after a while. Did you realize what a beautiful color its eyes are? —A student of Mysteria Academy

Ogler is actually Witchette's friend.

Deepest lore.
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>>164824741
Luxhorn clears most things your opponent plays and survives, so that you can use her to control the board on your dead turn 8. Currently there is no better way to do this.
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should I go all in on a control sword deck? My only shitty classes right now are banner sword and agro shadow. But the shadow is probably in a better place than banner sword right now.
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What are some good decks for beginners ?
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>>164824796
Thank you anon
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Concede please

94916
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>>164824881

Aggro blood
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>>164824838
But there are tons of students at Mysteria Academy, it could be anyone
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>>164824605
I think Turn 7 should either be another Themis or healing and removal with Radiance Angels.
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>>164824631
Why not call him fiend instead?
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>>164822791
Ramp Dragon is shit because Khawy is very common now
If you aren't Face dragon you autolose on turn7
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>>164824876
Deck is ungodly expensive and we don't know how well the deck will do in the new meta, opinions on Control Sword is mixed.
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>>164824931

Because Arthas is cool
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>>164824741
If you bomb the field T6, Luxhorn Evo on t7 she is almost certainly still going to be around on T8 which gives you some small amount of removal power on your Seraph turn
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>>164824605
I thought the purpose of Elana was to still give you a chance assuming Seraph gets Odin'd T-9? Just instead of a T-3 Elana, you save it for T-5-7 assuming board control?

Could be way off though.
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what do you do when loli whore has mordekai on curve? jus tlose?
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>>164824813
Forest actually has a fuckton of single target removal (they can even get rid of Morde without Odin), it's their board sweeping that's shit. I actually made and experimented with a Forest Control deck, went about 50/50. It lacks a strong win con though, as I don't have the bolts or meme queen and don't want to vial shit for a meme deck.
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>>164824876
Aggro sword isn't as bad as you think, definitely not bad enough to craft control sword which is outclassed right now.
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>>164824180
he's usually too slow, but he's alright if you want to play slow and Cynthia can't delay games as well as he can.
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>>164823421
Why bother when Haven is already one of the matchups they autolose most of the time?
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>>164825061
Tech an odin.
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Is there a non meme Dragon deck?

JO dragon is pure meme and Discard dragon is pic related
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>>164824881
Sometimes i pull neptits so hard
I rip the board
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>>164825061
Banish it
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>>164825061
>loli whore
I implore you to reconsider motherfucker.
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>>164823304
Khawy is the death of Midrange
It's either Aggro turn 6 win or Control i fuck you hard on turn9
You have to be retarded to play anything midrange as long Shadow remains popular on Nep novelty
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>>164824949
Khawy is another reason why ramp is running Odin. They either save an evolution for him or get fucked.
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>>164825047
If the deck is running odin, it is weak enough to be beat with your other cards, the meta is this tight. Sometimes you will lose, but stock piling a bunch of dead weight in your deck to counter a player making a stupid tech choice, is foolish.
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>>164824036
Bats lose to Khawy on turn7
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>>164824605
I don't use Unica or snake priestess, I use ding dongs instead. I also use curate instead of lux. The added hp usually puts me out of kill range from spells and stuff like roach otk
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is it safe to liquefy him if i don't care of the memes?

he seems as a shit card
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>>164825067
most of the removal is either overcosted or requires playing 2 cards which is bad because you're trying to keep your fairies in your hand.
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>>164824982
Hang on I'll check his jp name.
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>>164825061
>attack him with a weak follower
>banish him with Black Scrpture/Cudgel

it's still a win for your opponent because you wasted 2 cards for one but oh well
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>Mouse is starting to doubleclick
T-Thanks Razor
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I don't think that's how Elana's Prayer works Scoob
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>>164825113
ramp and face
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>>164825258
Fuck no.
Also dusting legos unless you already have 3 is stupid as fuck with all the free shit the game throws at you.
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>>164824914

But there's only one student at Mysteria Academy known for repeatedly bungling everything and who would definitely mess it up if she tried to summon as familiar.
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>>164825164
Okay okay, loli ESCORT.
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With such dailies i could just aswell trying the WolfBolt
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>>164825235
If you haven't ended the game by turn 7 or at least put them low enough that you can lethal with damage from hand, you lost to having a bad game as aggro bats and not khawy. Worst case scenario you have 7 turns to draw dance of death to bail you out.
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>>164825284
>mouse hasn't been able to hold left click reliably for over a year now
T-Thanks Logitech
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>>164825320
>ramp
Khalway exist

>face
there is better face deck than dragon
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>>164825347
i pulled my fourth zirnitra and considered vialing all 4 of them desu
such an awkward card
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>>164825245
Post deck?
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>>164825407
>That tiny slice of butt showing through the bottom of her skirt
>That dark area around the crotch that could be panties or a ruffle

I'm in love.
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IT WILL WORK THIS TIME MAYBE
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>>164821537
cygames does not make domg.
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>>164825284
>>164825463

>PcCucks

LOL
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>>164825567
>Windows specially designed to showcase her armpits and legpits.
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how do i play shingeki no bahamut
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>>164824881

Right now, the new cheapo hotness is Aggro Blood.
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Who /playsonlyoneclassinranked/ here?
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Concede please!

31470
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>>164825459
True
But that card is like a "softcap" for Aggro, if for any reason you fail to deliver lethal from the board before turn7 or at turn7 from hand then you can just smash concede 90% of the time
Khawy has just too much effects in a single package
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>nip aggro blood vampy won't stop fucking spamming emotes
2 nukes wasn't enough
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>>164825721
Not me
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>>164825721
I started with banner meme, but after discovering haven, I haven't turned back once.
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>>164825721
That was me but only because I don't have enough cards to make more than one competitive deck. I went from only playing midsword to only playing Daria.
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>>164825548

Witchette is a freak in the sheets yo.
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>>164825258
He's completely unplayable right now and was unplayable during DE. You can vial him pretty safely. Satan was generally only played in vanilla shadowverse because those classes didn't have anything better to play in standard set and the game wasn't this fast.

Lots of people in this general will tell you that you shouldn't vial anything because "It has potential!!" or "What if it's good later?" but 90% of the time a fundamentally bad card will stay unplayable forever.
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>>164825620
So that's why I'm forever in the shower...
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>have no idea how roach combo works
>start dropping 0 cost pikopiko's at turn 10
>enemy insta concedes
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>>164825731
Thanks so much!
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>Have combo in hand for lethal next turn
>Fairy Beast
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>>164825721
Only poor faggot that plays one class in ranked.
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>lose
>disconnect immediately
>get to play again sooner while they opponent waits for 90 seconds
>no punishment but screen

uh, so is there any reason to not DC?
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>>164825764
Khawy's not even that bad for Bats if you can't end it with burn, just throw all your bodies into him and hope they go turn 8 Morde and let you storm something through. I mean it ain't always going to work but practically he reads as a 4/5 ward for a competent bats pilot. There're a dozen things that fuck you much harder in the match up.
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>>164825868
>She tries a new sex position with you
>"It'll work this time, maybe!"
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>>164825764
>if for any reason you fail to deliver lethal from the board before turn7 or at turn7 from hand then you can just smash concede 90% of the time
yes, that is true

>Khawy has just too much effects in a single package
just demonic storm it ffs, clears the ward and your board to turn off lifegain, then you can topdeck wolf / lancer / gobu into wolf at your leisure
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>>164825670
You don't because it's dead.
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>>164825347
>not dusting 3 soul dealer, beast dominator, erasmus, pluto etc.

Are you stupid?
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>>164825883
i see, ty!
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New player, trying for swordcraft. Pulled 2 Aurelia in my initial packs and bought the deck for the third. Just pulled an animated Aurelia. I need the vials but it's so pretty. Mad as hell.
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>>164825567

ONE LITTLE FAILURE'S NOTHING
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Last anon did not get it, wish there's an in game chat.

Anyway I need a concede for dailies. 82668
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>>164825620
Oh god, maybe that's why the older I get the more I enjoy baths.

RIP myself
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>>164825785
Nobody can stop me
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>>164825764
I agree with you that Khawy is an incredible card and I'm terrified of Shadow ever becoming a real class. It's just that it doesn't really beat aggro bats, it beats aggro bats who draw badly which is something that can be done by any deck.
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>>164825721
>Not playing every class in ranked
>Not playing exclusively ranked for dailies and shit
You're the biggest kind of faggot there is in card games.
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>>164825963
>Dusting things just because
Are you stupid?
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>>164826048
I dusted an animated skullfane, deal with it.
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Khawy is amazing but it's not broken at all. It's exactly the kind of class-defining silver card that shadow NEEDED.

It would be broken as fuck in other classes but not in Shadow.
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>>164825785
>tfw I disabled that shit long ago but the patch re-enabled it and I got taunted by a vampy after she topdecked Imp Lancer

I think I finally understand how SJWs feel
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>trying to do cool Roach combos
>Death's Breath
>Kahwy
>Death's Breath
>mfw
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>>164825721
I spam whatever class is closest to lvl 100.
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>>164826041
>Implying playing unranked games with an auto-created deck and managing to win isn't the greatest achievement.
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>>164825883
>90% of the time a fundamentally bad card will stay unplayable forever.
the difference between satan and IMO basically any other card in the game is that satan is fun
dis's damnation feels great, astaroth's reckoning is such a haymaker even if it has the weaknesses haymakers tend to have, silent rider is so chunky
i'm fairly tryhard in general but the apocalypse deck is the one shadowverse card that brings out anything but the spike in me

but if you really don't care about the memes and don't expect to care about the memes at any point, sure, your life your choices buddy
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>>164826124
You are literally too slow or not slow enough :^)
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So rune blade summoner is good now right?
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>>164826048
>WAH WHY DONT YOU PLAY THE GAME LIKE I DO
Kill yourself my dude.

>>164826114
>It would be broken as fuck in other classes but not in Shadow.
Except it is broken as fuck in Shadow. I like the card a lot, but come on, the card is pretty fucking busted and there is no denying that.
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>>164825976
You want to have three Aurelias anyway, consider it a nice bonus.
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>play control blood
>lose game 1 due to never drawing a revelation
>lose game 2 because i draw 3 revelations and can't play anything
i want to die
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we wuz type moonz n shit
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>>164825721
Only Sword, though I'm trying out Dragon in Unranked. Might play them too
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>>164826113
You're the one who's going to have to deal with it anon
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I already know the answer but holy shit this is terrible
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>>164826048
What's the point keeping trash that you will never use other than autism? Dusting 4 trash legendaries to craft 1 good legendary is something every f2p player should do because you can build a meta deck faster.
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>>164826234
>Makes stupid decisions
>Blames other people
Confirmed for nigger
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Need help please for 20 private matches

17522
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>>164826163
>Unranked
Do it in ranked you pussy. Or are you afraid of losing muh points?
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W E L P

She spammed sorry emotes while I spammed Hmm emotes. I think the other player was laughing so hard that he felt bad for me and didn't evolve to clear my evolved giant and let me win with alucard
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>>164826236
Think I'm just going to pretend it was trash and craft an Albert with it.
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>>164826174
Turn 6 death's breath will ruin combo roach if they go first. Turn 6 lethal is possible but not nearly as common as turn 7.
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can someone private match win me 79868
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>last 5 days of dailies have been nothing but Havencraft + Othercraft(x2~3)
What the fuck
I want to play my lolis damn it
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>>164826310
I got memed by a midsword in ranked that ran Front Lines x3

he dropped one on turn 1 and then just styled on me for the rest of the match
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>>164825883
The problem is determining what's fundamentally bad anon. Any anon who has to ask about a card obviously can't determine it for themselves, and I would never recommend any of them trust /svg/.
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>>164826209

Wrong!
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>>164826347
>she
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>>164826334
How is vialing shit you don't want and know will never use a stupid decision?
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>>164826310
frontguard general is great. especially in t2
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>>164826124
Yeah, if you don't get Feena/EPM ever, your combo's delayed and you instantly lose against shadow.
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>>164826461
Why not?
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>>164826310

Go right.

Frontguard general is really useful in T2.

Castle in the sky is still less useless than Rogue's Creed.
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>>164826442
That's why I explained what makes Satan a bad card so they can decide whether or not to trust me. There's a lot of bad opinions in here.
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>>164826234

How is Khawy broken, because he allows shadow to stall for their turn 8 card?

It's a 7 drop that is totally defensive. It's not broken. It can easily be played around.
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>>164826490
It's not as long as you can immediately make something out of it.
Vialing shit just because you can with no immediate use for the vials is retarded.
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>>164826346
Putting in the effort and vials just to get a deck that works in current meta is not worth it
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>>164826523

Not as reliable as destroyer, not as fast as Ogler.
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I just woke up
Is Sword still unplayable?
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>9000 points from AA2 to Master
Alright I think I'm fine where I am.
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>>164825721
Might spending whole day in unranked to learn how to play WolfBolt meme
I am shit at Forest
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>>164826747
just play control
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There were anons who thought Khawy would be unplayable because of Lord of the Flies when he was revealed.

Think about this for a second. Those people are in the same thread as you, eating your image limit, stealing your decklists.
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>>164826747
just replace X 5pp drop with Y 5pp drop bro!
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>>164826675
>It can easily be played around.

except it cant if he has an evolution. Unless being played around means never playing any follower ever.
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>>164826675
Because it's a Ward that has execution and a heal?

Take off the heal and it would be fine.
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>>164826747
just play 3x albert you dumb faggot
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>>164826747

>Stall until turn 9
>Play Albert > Evo > Hit for 10.
>GG EZ
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>>164826869

it means not building a board before Turn 7 against Shadow, yes.

Just like you wouldn't build up a big board before turn 6 against Haven.
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>>164826901
why the fuck did they give the shadowcraft lich theme dick a heal?
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>tfw have such no idea of how to play Forest i concede to Discard Dragon
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I want to make a deck that just fucks over aggro and combo Roach. I'm thinking of going Shadow and being heavy on wards and removal, with an assortment of finishers. No Nephthys though

Thoughts?
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>>164826675
Because it is a disruption tool of the highest caliber there is, and it literally screws your opponent just by being played.
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>>164826336
Hope you didn't mind the long match, I'm trying to refine this deck.
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>>164826747
I made AA with Banner, and I'm gonna get to Master with it and laugh at all of you traitors.
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How does one beat aggro bats? As far as I can tell they don't actually care what I do, they just kill me with raw face damage even if I somehow manage to keep their board clean or put up wards or heal.
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>>164827057
shadow has been forest's counter since the start you are not saying anything new
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>>164827015
except building a board before turn 7 is literally the only thing you can do against khawy if you aren't haven. You have to build up a massive board of low cost followers to force Khawy out and then kill it so it eats something small.
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>>164826167
I actually just made sunlight satan earlier.

It's been working fairly well. Sure it's really just a worse seraph in many ways, but god damn if it isn't fun as fuck to do.

That and it can easily wreck aggrobats and runeslut.
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>>164827085
Its ok, I was just miffed that I didnt draw Albert at all

Well, that goes to show you why 'Aggro Sword' is not meta
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>>164827041
I conceded to Phoenix Roost Discard yesterday, so top that.
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shadow is literally hearthstone now
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>>164827057
control sword

run wards out the ass

bahamut and albert your way to victory
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>>164826675
It's a good card in a bad class. A lot of people hate "good" cards and call them broken. Ancient elf is pretty broken but it doesn't need to be nerfed or anything.
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>>164827136
Play Luna, clear until 6, plop down 3 wards.
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>>164826675
It does too much, that's why.

It's a ward, board control, heal; and ensures incoming Nep. AND taking him out only offers better RNG for Nep burns.

You're literally putting yourself at a greater disadvantage if you kill him. But keeping him around means 5-7 damage.

Go ahead and name another 7-drop that does anything close to that.
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>Jump onto Ranked expecting meta netdecks
>Get Phoenix Roost memester instead
Umm, Rowenfags? At least the Fortefags aren't nutty like you
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>>164827027

Because taking resources from the dead to power yourself is very lichlike.

I'm actually wondering when you'll be able to benefit off your opponent's followers dying in other ways. Like I get why Bloodhungry is in blood, but I think the effect would be right at home in shadow.
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To the anon that posted the Seraph deck last thread, I made a couple of tweaks but so far I'm liking it, thanks.
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>>164827232

You thought it was aggro blood, but it was me control blood! Hungering Horde!

I actually did this against a full field of zombie and got lethal.
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>>164827186
>playing against shadow
>random effect hits the best target for you
>lol shadow sucks, way to go Cygames for keeping shadow an unga aggro class
>random effect hits the worst target for you
>welp it's HS now oh well SV is fucked
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>>164827186
>crystallia lilly
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>>164827261
>Rowen players
Absolute madmen
>Forte players
Waifu fags who don't know the true meaning of hearing the dragons roar!
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>>164827172
Just lost again to it
This time i even killed my 0pp fairies by pushing them out of board with the Acient Elf bouncing
Cucking me Tia
I have honestly a sub 20% win rate with Forest
Yesterday i played 20 matches in unranked and won 4
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>>164827186
I unironically though Necroassassin wasn't completely random until a few days ago because of the results it gets.
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>>164827261

>Fangblade Slayer

Please tell he threw down a bahamut
>>
I've been playing Shadowverse this past week and I've gotta say, this is the most fun I've had with a card game in the longest. I've been playing Hearthstone since launch but got fed up with it after the most recent expansions. This game is like a breath of fresh air after that garbage. Plus the classes genuinely feel unique.
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>>164827415
What's next for Rowen anyway?

I think he's peaked with JO dragon, nothing will top that ever
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>>164826921
>>164827010
>>164827164
>Sword is still steal wins with Alberto or lose: The Class
This makes me sad
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>>164827408
is great against morde or bahamut, and it doesnt brick like odin
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Most of it is straightforward, but in forest bats how exactly do I play vampiric fortress and vania? Do I actually use vampiric bats as a damage source rather than a token generator? I find I have a reall hard time finding a good time to drop Vania since if I play on my evolve turn she often immediately dies, but I feel like I can't wait until late game and save up bat summoning spells.
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>>164827254
The trade off is that you're playing a Nep deck so that cancels out how good khawy is.
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>>164827453
I was truly hoping, but he was bad at memes
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>>164827261

I'd much rather be a magical meme madman than a dork.
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Is Cocytus in wizard dragon cheating?
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hey guys i have about 3k gold and i'm keen to spend real money on packs as well. what are some strong decks that let me play large big dick minions? i'm also looking for a good control deck. i'm hearing a lot about seraphs but are there any other good options? sorry guys i'm sure these things are asked a lot but i just want to have fun.
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>>164827531
>Do I actually use vampiric bats
fortress
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>>164827512

Oh you say that, but I'm sure there's something in the future.
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>>164827523
How is it a stolen win if you know their wincon ahead of time and didn't prevent it from beating you?
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>>164827584
you need a bro to charge your crystal
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Where i can watch some Forest play?
Because whenever i try it i am bound for 10+ lose streaks
Bought also 3x premade for the Acient Elf art so i have to get good with the class
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>>164827408
>Looking down on Lily while complaining about Khawy even though she utterly screws him over just when the shadow player assumes they're safe
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>>164827568
Hey Rowen, come Cygames lets you have TWO JO crystals?
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>>164827271
but you already have a vampire class

shadow already has death/graveyard/big fat ghoul wards
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>>164827584

>Forte
>JO Dragon

Literally doing it wrong. Only bros can charge the crystal.
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>>164827584
no, because cocytus is your son, he comes out of your magical ejaculations
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>>164827603
ramp dragon
control sword
control blood
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>>164827603
ramp dragon is what you're looking for, timmy
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Is anyone using any shadow aggro decks right now?
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literally what the fuck
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>>164827674
What version of forest are you trying to play?
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>>164827674
Bad time for watching forest when dragon, rune, blood and shadow are run more in nipland
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>>164827584

Servant's portrait has a JO crystal in it.
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>>164827764
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>inb4 people get triggered by the Blood description
The class doesn't even have strong mechanics, it just has the one aggro deck. If you've played other card games you'll be used to aggro decks by now and actually know the definition of a tech.
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>>164827730
>>164827749
>ramp dragon
>when khawy and nep exist
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>>164827730
>>164827749
He said strong decks
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Do you think Cygames is going to dedicate space in the next expansion to pushing Discard again?
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>>164827764
you should have been quicker anon.
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How did Rowen become a sad joke?
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>Destroy a random enemy minion
NICE GAME SHADOWBABS
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>T2
>getting nothing but 3+ point cards

Why is this allowed?
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>>164827674
twitch?

some guy was playing raoch otk in masters last night and went like 15-7
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>>164827674
>Bought also 3x premade
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>>164827808
Give shadow a week to finish their honeymoon with Nep and they'll realize how bad it is and give up.
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>>164827808
>not running 3 odins and 3 bahamuts
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>>164827834
it's ok I won like 4 turns later. he made a huge gelt but my tribunal went off as soon as it was my turn so I don't think he read the card.
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>>164827773
Both WolfBolt and Roach thing
Have no idea of what i am doing with both
>>164827797
Atleast i waste time in unranked
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>>164827674
twitch Failgun17
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>>164827808
Ramp dragon run 3 odin bruh for this exact reason
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>>164827835
>red eyes of too much crying
>voiced by sugita
>one of the worst classes
>looks like a goof
>there is nobody else i would rather lose to
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>>164827531
It's not a flowchart with vampy, it depends on the game. That being said, you don't want to play vampy without at least evolving her unless you have nothing better to do and need to take the risk on her surviving or getting a 2 for 1 trade. You can get a lot of damage off vampy combos from hand.
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>>164827723
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>>164827698
>6pp to essentially get rid of a ward
>utterly screws him over

And you do what with your 1pp left to hold off the T-8 flood you know is coming. I fail to see how spending almost your entire turn like that is utterly screwing anyone other than yourself over.
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Huh, guess it's a common
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nothin personal kid
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>>164827808
>tfw this is my only bad matchup because I don't have Odins
At least I shit on everything else.
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>>164827665
>no ward card
>wow how were you dumb enough to not draw a ward card?

this game is half lottery nigger
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>>164827923
HEAR THE DRAGON ROAR
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>>164827825
no, discard has a lower winrate than fucking JO dragon
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>>164827821
Lets stop memeing for a second. Ramp Dragon is seriously good
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>>164827710

True, but vampire spells and drain attacks can usually leave their targets alive (Righteous Devil being the prominent exception) if they have enough health, which is different from needing corpses. It's a minor distinction but I think it's enough of an excuse so long as blood gets good cards with drain and so on in order to not be outdone by shadow

I'm just saying that Liches and Necromancers can use ALL dead for their ranks traditionally. Shadow in it's current form doesn't really reflect that.
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>>164828007
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>>164828050
They were all Discard
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I LOVE AURELIA
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>>164828031
how did you let him hit you for 10 hp while holding back one of his evo points for 9 turns?
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1 (one) pack !
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>cucking haven amulets with kaleido
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>>164828096
It's ok. It has popular bad matchups but nothing unwinnable.
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Can someone post a nep list
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>>164827972
>one of the worst class

Thats not shadow or blood.
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Holy fucking moly this was a fun game. I spent like 3 or 4 turns with 1 HP praying that he wouldn't topdeck a Quickblader.

>>164828197
>Stop running Beastcall Aria entirely because of some bullshit obligation that I have to on account of its power
>Have smoother games overall
No regrets. I only run 3 amulets now.
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>>164828179
congrats on your new daria deck
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>>164827878
Forest is expensive with all the legos it needs
3x Acient Elf from the premade were the fastest option
Thanks me for keeping the game alive, atleast done with the Forest daily
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>>164828257
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>>164827415
don't bully forte
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>>164828257
>blood
>Bad
Wat
Aggro bats is insane and control is T2 at worst
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>>164828000
I mean in oldschool tempo decks where you played Cynthia evolved last turn, not the new cockroach combo fad. They plop Khawy down knowing that forest has no banish waiting for the Cynthia heal.
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>>164828257
>Shadow
>Blood
>Worst class
Time traveler?
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>>164828137
And yet you still lost, which makes you worst than 63% than most player since discard winrate is around 37%. :^)
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>all these retards whining about how sword is ded
>climbing AA0 with midsword without any problems
Nice to know all the netdecking sword shitters got BTFO this expansion.
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Anything I can dust?

Except imp dragoon
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Who else made decks for their waifus that aren't meta?
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>>164828402
Expansion have always exposed the baddies and auto pilots in card games.
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>>164828313
Beastcall isn't even that incredible any more now that Daria exists. The whole point of beastcall was the large burst of board presence it created which isn't that good any more in a post-Daria world. Lots of lists have been dropping it.
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>>164828415
Aurelia, Otohime, Albert
Craft 2 seraphs
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>>164828415
oto and fafnir
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Quick! Design a "balanced" 2 drop for forest, sword, dragon, shadow and haven with a 'balanced' evolve!
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>>164828129
>>164828007
similar thing happened to me a few days ago.
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>>164828415

Fapnir
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>>164828415
What are you trying to make? Unless you really need the vials, I wouldn't dust any of them, to be honest.
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>>164828402
Realistically you can climb with every class, even Shadow. Probably won't be the fastest way to climb but every class can do it.
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>>164828503

>Mega elf child may
>2/2
>fanfare, ping 2 random targets for 2 damage
>evo 4/4 ping 2 random targets for 2 damage.
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>>164824141

Just went 5-0 with this going left, wew
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>>164828394
Played too much Bats to know how to play anything else
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this guy seems like he sucks

can i dust him for those sweet vials?
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This is how Cygames tells you that you have a 5 game losing streak coming up
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>>164828626

So, did my advice work out, or was it mostly prior drafts putting in the work?
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>>164828542
I just need more odins for lamp deck. I might just get rid of fafnir from the prebuilt pack.
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>>164827186

I've never understood how people complain about Necroassassin when this card exists

Not to mention Elf Sniper May


Methinks that knifeears are trying to draw attention away from their own bullshit this expansion

>we're l-low tier now we swear
>everyone else got better toys!
>shadow is straight busted!
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>>164828620
>>Mega elf child may
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How different are the decks in Unranked vs Ranked at A3-AA0 level?
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>>164828620
That's 12 damage, Levi isn't that bad
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>>164828692
Eidolion is way better so I think any potential for him to be any good are gone.
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>>164828692
absolutely
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>>164828741

Pet class of the Devs.
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>>164828720
But the card's been around for a long time and nobody gave a shit about it and few played it
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>>164828415
Sahaquiel is only used in a control Ramp dragon list right now.

Fafnir is pretty bad ever since DE led to every class running unconditional removal.

I wouldn't really condone vialing anything else but you can consider those two if you really need the vials.
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>>164828741
Add if you played at least 2 cards before and it's balanced now :^)
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>want to play control or combo decks more
>end up spamming aggro decks(Banner Sword in DE, Aggro Blood now) in ranked because its the only reliable way to climb

Man, this does suck
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>>164828692
>2 Holyflame Dragons, 5/4 Peg and 4/4 Skull
>T-7
>"he sucks"
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Post some music you listen to when laddering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr1AFU_nhtk

>>164828692
>Animated Skullfane
Man I bet that looks nice. Sadly as cool as he is, Skullfane is pretty bad. Dust away.
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>>164828590
If that were the case, people wouldn't be whining about how the whole class is ded.
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JUST
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why did you evolve into my Mini Soul Devil, mr unranked rando?

it was turn ten

you were rune and had 8 cards, two evos and three guys on board

i had no evos, no spare cards, and threw out a vania and msd in vain desparation

there were probably a thousand ways to kill me

instead you, with 1 def, evolved your ogler

were you trying to style on me, throw out some flourish into your win

did you take pity on me for having ground you down to 1 and then not having any good draws for the next 5 turns

did you just not know what the damn card did

all i know is, i spent a minute laughing after it ended
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>>164828737
Unranked matches you based off your rank anyway so no different.
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>>164828702

I went left because I wanted to be faster without adding another 5 and 7. I never used soul dealer even though it looked tempting a couple of times but I did play righteous twice outside of vengeance but yeah it was prior stuff winning it for me
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>>164828692
What is Skullfane, anyways? Is he a giant god rising out of the church?
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>>164828831
;^) themis
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Damn that's brutal
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>>164828831
You can do that with eidolon tho
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>>164828845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Alrc98fQlc
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What are we watching
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>>164828845
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>>164828935
he IS the church
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>>164828503
Sword
>2/2
>Fanfare: summon 1 knight 1/1
>Evolve: 4/4 evolve all knights
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>>164828861
Shadow is in the dumpster, but you can climb with aggro shadow at least. You can technically hit master with a sub 50.0% winrate if you don't mind needing hundreds more games than a good consistent deck.
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>>164827730
>>164827730
could you please post a decklist. i'm not sure where i should look since gamepress is bad(?)
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>>164828720
because 1 damage isn't a huge game changer 90% of the time, but destroying a minion is.

It wouldn't even be an issue if it was just one card, but Shadow has both necroassassin and corpse for it. Khawy is fine because he's predictable.
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Does Elana Seraph Haven have a place on ladder? Should I switch to a different Haven list?
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>>164828908

Kira kira shite. Kirei

That's my daughteru.
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>>164829001
eidolon do it better.
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>>164829070
Pure seraph is best
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>>164829045
for ramp dragon i should have clarified which one. my bad
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>>164829070
Pure Seraph is better, you need Seraph to win you the game on turn 9 and Elana variants don't have enough ways to pop it consistently.
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>>164828503
fatass salamander
Dragoncraft
2PP 2/2
4/4 evolved, put a Breath of the Salamander into your hand
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>>164828810

And it's effect is very similar to Necro, albeit without a body attached, which is what gives Necro her CONSISTENCY

People keep bringing up the HS boogeyman when this shit is nothing new to the game. It's just been placed in the hands of a class that can use it well.

>>164829061
And, to beg the comparison, having their 1/1 bounce and your 5PP follower isn't just as much of a tempo hit?

The only reason people dislike Corpse/Necro is not because they are random, but because they have a LOT of room for manipulation and board control.

Ya'll are whiny bitches
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>>164829001
WHY DID SKULLFANE HAVE TO BE SO BAD IT'S NOT FAIR

>>164829097
Is Eidolon inside of Skullfane or what?

>>164829070
Pure Seraph is more fun and more consistent based on my experience.
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>>164828503
>Forest
2pp 1/1 -> 3/3 Add a Thorn Burst to your hand for every card played this turn.

>Sword
2pp 2/2 Storm -> 2/2 Summon two Knights and give them Storm.

>Dragon
2pp 2/2 -> 4/4 Gain two empty play point orbs

>Shadow
2pp 2/1 Last Words: Summon "this follower" -> 2/1 Summon a "this follower".

>Haven
2pp 1/3 Fanfare: Restore 1 defense to your leader -> 2/4 Give +1/+1 to every allied follower.
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>Sword is dead
>Everyone stops playing it
>Streams become more entertaining to watch
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is it safe to dust madame lich, spirit circle, teena and prof of taboos?
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This current meta is well balanced and enjoyable!
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I have opened like 50 RoB packs and have gotten only 2 Alberts and 1 nepnep, should I stop?
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>>164829228
It really does show off how bullshit Levi is when you look at those ideas. I want that Dragon Card
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>lose 1 duel because I couldn't draw into one of my 3 Seraphs until turn 15
>lose the next duel because I drew all 3 back to back

Please stop. I don't want to play Aggro Blood or Daria, but the shadowverse gods are making it awfully tempting.
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>>164829252
it;s bad to eat bread without drinking btw
also one you can grow fat on bread
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>>164829252
With the exception of Shadow, it's fairly well balanced as of right now.

Unica isn't even a good card
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>>164829260
Reroll desu, bad luck account
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All of this is worth keeping right?
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>>164824725
After tutorial automatic 38.

If you do practice elite and 20 matches private. 34.

So total 72 packs.
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>>164829243
Spirit Cycle and Teena see some use. Taboos is core in Earth Rite decks.

Nobody uses Madame Lich
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>>164829038
We're talking about how people were whining about sword being ded though, not shadow. They claim the whole class is ded but that's clearly not the case. It really is like >>164828451 says, the baddies who can't adapt get dumpstered hard.
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>>164828908
If I have no way to win and I'm given the choice between self lethal and letting the other guy kill me, I'd choose the former every time. Hell if I let any more of your slimy followers touch my face.
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>>164829318
The moment you do switch, your starting hand will be 3 Daria or 3 Imp Lancer. Praise RNG.
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>>164829318
both brick just as hard
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>>164829260

Did you Glory Be! before opening those packs, anon?
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>>164829330
BREAD MAKES YOU FAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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>>164829318
join the sunlight satan crew.
Do it.
It's fun.
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>>164829260
Open one at a time and dont skip. Higher chance of getting a legendary.

Source: me

15 packs 4 lego
50ish pack around 7 or 8
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>>164829358
i see, ty
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>>164829318

Eat shit, hag fag.
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>>164829001

I got an animated Skullfane too and i'll never dust it because it's got that purple swag
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>>164824305
Your deck's bretty good
>Unranked
Don't feel like tanking my points with a deck I've never played
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>don't interact with any damage from Aggro Bat

Explain how this isn't the cancer killing the game?
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>>164829436
Nice sample size
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>>164829378
Oh sorry I forgot the original post was about Sword.

Sword doesn't get to complain at all, the class still has multiple viable decks with a fair amount of flex space in the decks.
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>>164829118
>>164829148
>>164829189
Would you happen to have a solid list for this?
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>>164829351
The only one I'd dust is Alex. Sword has no use for him now that the game is so fast. Even if you make it to T-8, throwing him down would be inefficient in every sense.
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>>164829484

It's not like control blood is different, it's just how the class works.
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>>164829417
if you eat it by loaves, sure

>>164829450
what if they use garuda
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>>164829421
I could make a sunlight deck (I have a DE one), but I feel like it would just be a worse version of stall/Seraph.
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>tfw 3 albertos
>3 daris
>3 neps
>2 dragoons
>1 matriarch
The best part is nep/daria decks don't need any other legends.
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>>164829595
marry me
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>>164828503
evo deal 2 damage to an enemy follower then deal 2 damage to the enemy leader. if you're in vengeance deal 2 damage to all enemy followers then deal 2 damage to the enemy leader.

fanfare put a nature's guidance into your hand
evo put a rhinoceroach into your hand

evo summon steelclad knights until your area is full

fanfare deal 1 damage to an enemy
evo destroy a damaged enemy follower

evo put two ghosts in your hand and change their costs to 0

fanfare at the end of your turn transform this follower into a divine birdsong
evo gain last words summon a heretical inquiry

some of these are more "balanced' than others i know i'm sorry
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>>164829595

Eat shit, birdbrain.
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>>164829595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9aTMrjactg

Come on man
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>>164829382
if you're rune with 8 cards at turn 10 and have been spellboosting consistently across the entire match and have three guys that can do all but 1 damage on your opponent and you still can't win then you deserve to have vania eat your face
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>>164829530

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/seraph-havencraft-0

Gamepress usually isn't great but this list isn't bad. Personally I don't like Beastcall Aria for pure seraph and I only run 2 copies of Seraph.
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I need 17 more for the private match quest, who go 1st, pls hit face until win

Id : 70674
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>>164829672

>evo put two ghosts in your hand and change their costs to 0

I want this to enable Shadow Reaper + Sexton memes
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>>164829504
Did it for my alt account too

Got 9 legos from 38 packs

Sample size 2 ;^) dont cry about not getting legos if you dont follow my steps.
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>>164828973
Is this Japanese trap music?

>>164829530
Here, started using it earlier
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>>164829605
In many ways it is a worse seraph what with the win con only coming out on turn 10.

But it's a lot harder to brick as badly and it has done nothing but wreck bats, darias, and shadows.

Let's just not talk about its time against dragon, dshift, and seraph.
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>>164829160
this one is actually fair, I don't think you understand the purpose of this exercise.
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>having troubles in T2 agaist a Beginner1
What the fuck i am doing
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>>164829635
*blush*
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this shit has no relation with domg

>ctrl f
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why is skullfane bad if it looks so cool
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>>164829740
16 more
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>>164829996

It's not us, it's the autist making the threads
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>>164829928
There's a lot of T2 players who never play ranked. Last I looked, the #2 ranked T2 player this season is in beginner.
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>>164829928
playing against a T2 alt that for whatever reason went into ranked exactly once?
seeing that beginner jewel in the VS screen is pretty frightening, actually, my last final boss was a beginner sword who ran circles around me with rush cards and monika
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Just beat Shadowcraft after slogging through six 4/4 Liches by turn 7 from their meme shenanigans

Ask me anything
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>>164829813
What good is Sarissa in that deck?

Unless it's sunlight, I see no use for her. I'm sure a Themis or combination of healing and removal would be always better on turn 7.
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>>164829813
Out of curiosity, what was your ratio/what rank? What gave you the most trouble?
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>play oppaicraft
>got my opponent on low health, but their whole board is filled with followers
>have no followers and an empty hand know i'm completely fucked
>give a sorry losing emote to my opp and he gives me a smug emote back
>draw my last card
>its Disaster Witch
>play it and get free fireball
>mfw

Is their anything most satisfying than a clutch victory /svg/?
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>>164830072
You play her on 7 because you're playing Seraph aka nothing on turn 8.
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>>164822329
>he doesn't know...

>>164827057
it works with Neps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDHvMhih7Qs
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>>164829948
youre cute! i hope you had a good day
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>>164830072
She is one of the most op control cards in the game why don't you try her out. You want something to stick on the board for next turn or give something for your opponent to deal with so they don't overload the board for lethal. Themis/ Heal does none of that.
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What is it with Japanese players and their seemingly extreme tendency to draw cards last instead of first in their play order?
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>>164830072
he's already running 3 themis, and what sort of healing do you expect him to combo with removal? monastic holy water? the number of deck slots necessary to have both removal and healing on your late/midgame turns is prohibitively large. better to devote 2 deck slots to a card that's not-quite-hard-removal but likely to 2-for-1 effortlessly
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The most insane thing about Khawy is the fact that his last word targets the best possible card instead of being random.
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What exactly is one supposed to do against roach forest? Suicide is the only option I can think of.
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How spicy is my meme deck?
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>>164830180
>>164830282
I could definitely try her out, but wouldn't Soul Collector be a better turn 7 monster?

It may not have rush, but it will definitely either stop your opponent from summoning big followers, or it will automatically punish them for it harder than Sarissa will.
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>>164830313
Fucking nips and gooks can't into basic card game strategy.
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>>164830376
what is ward
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Havenfags....
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>>164830254
If you want to pretend Nep shadow is good go ahead, I'm glad you're having fun with the class still in beta.
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>>164830442
Something that they run an evolved Feena into.
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>>164830072
I actually don't recommend running it in sunlight.

Problem is that while she's harder to kill you don't really need that, you need things to stall for time. So a curator being a 5/5 ward that heals you for 5 actually works a lot better at saving your ass than a 5/5-7/7 ward that takes at least 2 hits to die. Especially since hard removal is often used on them.
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Every wolf-bolt win is living life in the danger zone

I love it
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Should roach.dek have draw engines aside from minigobu/Feena? Im thinking of replacing my glittering.
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>>164830331
I understand, usually turn 7 is something like Radiance Angel and Blackened Scripture or Healing Angel and Tribunal. At least that's how it normally goes for me.
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>>164830423
It's tough thing to explain in words, but after 50 or so games in master, I decided to run her over soul collector.
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24140

Concede anyone?
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>>164830397

Must be nice playing at D rank where they put succubus in their random deck of random cards
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>>164830072
She is late game removal. She puts in a lot of work at getting rid of dudes long after you've run out of evolve points. People in /svg/ always talk about "Seraph turn 8 auto win turn 9" but anyone that has actually played a Seraph deck will tell you that this does not very often play out and that you actually need to have some sort of control of the game because doing fucking nothing on turn 8 WILL lose you the game if you don't ensure that you are in the clear. Sarissa kills things that B. Scripture won't be able to and is more precise than Tribunal of Good and Evil.

>>164830073
I'm A2 and I've only played 6 games with it so far, literally just started playing it tonight. I'm 4-2 and the two losses I had were against Forest. Roaches, etc. Honestly I feel like I got lucky too because against the Rune and Sword player I was playing pretty close to the chest but I was able to find a way out each time. Forest is confounding me in general but oh well, I'll figure shit out.
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>>164830510
It wins against control shadow but dead against aggro blood/rune. Meanwhile roach is very good against rune, even against aggro blood and dies to control shadow.
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>>164830464
>Spellbook Decryption
In a world where Draconic Fervor exists, why?
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>>164827162
what is sunlight satan, I want to counter the blood and daria cancer
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>>164830442
Something that gets bounced by Pixie mischief
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How do I make Discard Dragon work? I tried all kind of combination but to no avail. The best I can do is beating AI elite.
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>>164830663
What's your list?
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>>164830423
Sarissa reduces the number of incoming attacks by 1 after your T7 and by an additional 1 after your T8 for a total of 3 fewer attacks (the first destroyed minion missed 2 turns of attacking)
Soul Collector reduces the number of incoming attacks by 3 after your T8, two from the death sentence and one from trading in with her. So it's the same amount of attacker mitigation, but RNG-based.
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>>164830562
Thanks
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>>164830636
Too jewish to craft
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>>164830715
Well, I feel convinced enough to give it a try, but damn, I don't know where to find room.
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I'm thinking of just running 3 Bahamut/3 Odin in everything from now until forever.
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>>164830634
It's a pretty hard combo to pull off just because it involves ramming your T8 into death while having a full hand (if you haven't chipped). If you draw all your bolts, you also lose. Combo's way more consistent.
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>get 1 5-0 after 20 T2
>average 3-2 and not a single 5-0 100 T2 later
Arena in this game is suffering
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>>164830607
Forest is built to fuck up Seraph right now, taunt is the only way to stop it.
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>>164830824

how about you improve?
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>>164830785
H-Hear!
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How meme is this lego now in RoB?
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>>164830867
Even if you're extremely good, there's no way you average 5 wins ever. 4 win average is possible but 1/5 games you're going to get absolutely destroyed by something like T4 floral.
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>>164830902

cute/10
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>>164830945
could still do better than one 5-0 out of 100
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>>164830638
It's a haven deck that revolves around guardian sun (2pp amulet, minions with 4+ hp get ward), then early game wards + mid game removal minions with high hp and curator to stall until turn 10, when you drop a prince of darkness, then you kill them with the apocalypse deck.

It shits on aggrobats because you're throwing out wards every turn and can easily heal off burn dmg. Temple Defender basically shuts down all their offense that isn't veight. You can stall them pretty simply.

It shits on Daria for the same reason seraph does: themsis and lion spirit.

The deck gets its dick kicked in by any sort of burst dmg though, so dragon, otk roach, control blood, and dshift will completely and utterly wreck you.

It's not a particularly good deck, having your wincon come out on t10 does that to you. But it's pretty fun to play. Especially doing shit like a turn 8 sacred plea so when satan drops you immediately draw 3 cards from the apocalypse deck.
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>>164830956
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>>164830824
earlier someone seraph'd me in arena to stop me from getting 5 wins. he had a bunch of cards to activate it in one turn and had some amulet that set all my followers attack to 1. biggest bs I've ever seen
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>play class with 2 of the best decks in the entire game
>play fucking dirt

he literally filled his entire board with earthrites and then summon 6 zombies in one turn losing half of them
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>>164830867
I lost the counts of the 4-1 with Dragon in Arena and usually the runs with free tickets are always the worst for me
Last T2 ticket
Which one /svg/, care not of the result.
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>Literally can't draw any of the 20 cards I want in any match
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>>164831042
bzz, accidentally quoted
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So anybody know all the leader's last names? I just went through the story and I'm curious what all the last names are. So far only Rowen, Urias and Eris's last names are mentioned, what about the other 4?
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>royal is bad this patch
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>>164831131
go for the earth rite spellboost rune it never fails
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>>164831135
Stop playing aggrobat
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>>164831042
Tribunal is my favorite translated name
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>>164831190
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>>164831175
>unrank
Nip nop niggo
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What exactly IS Forte?

What are the Dark Dragoons, why does she call herself ruler of the sky, why does she have the horns, is she a black dragon (or some other type), why does a dragon ride another less fatty dragon into battle, why does she have fat tits?
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>>164831042
The herd of the starfish sounds legit
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>>164831084
>Complaining people are having fun either non-meta decks
What do you retards want? If he was playing fucking Daria, you would be shitting on him as well.
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>>164831253
It's ranked you dirty EOP.
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>>164830902
very
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>>164831042
AI card?
How do human players use him?
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>>164831257

She's actually a Mama. In Japan she's commonly referred to as Forte-mama

Save me Forte-mama~
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Just downloaded the game and cashed in a bunch of tickets I got after the three tutorial games. Is this a good pull?
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>Pop over to /hsg/
>One post after 10 minutes pass
Amazing how Team 5 ruined the potential of one of the best IPs
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what the fuck thought processes went into havencraft?

i understand giving some crafts some fucking dirt tricks, but haven has all the worst of em
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Left or right?
First time with Dragon in arena post RoB
How does the Dragonborn?
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>>164831332
Enough!
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>>164831313
Ching chong my African white friend.
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>>164831362
In hindsight, it wasn't that good of a game.
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>>164831362
What happened? I thought it was like one of the most popular games out there.
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>>164831345
Pretty good.
It's a lot of vials at least.
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>>164831303
He's mad because his opponent is having fun.

Dirtrune isn't that good, but god damn if it isn't fun to fuck around with.
The infinite zombies is too entertaining.
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>>164831423
It used to be better. Provided, that period ended several years ago.
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>>164831420
>he only speaks 1 language
>he can't win with royal
hehehehehehe
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>>164831345
Post gold and legendary cards with the filter. Make sure to use all the tickets.
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I just got my third animated JO crystal, I think the game is telling me it's time to embrace wizardhood

Someone got an example decklist for JO dragon?
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>>164831362
Last post was 2 minute ago, Second last post was 11 minutes ago, third last post was FIFTY THREE (53) minutes ago

>>164831439
It is, but amongst casuals. 4chan and I suspect a lot of the hardcore players just dropped it starting from One Night In Development
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>>164831442
I always feel bad losing to Dirtcraft because I know it's not that great.

That being said, it's one of those lesser-seen decks that I never underestimate.
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>>164831414
easy left genesis is still insane and flute is good in arena newt isn't great and grae is alright
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>>164831169
Arisa
Erika Sumeragi
Eris Anthule
Isabelle
Luna
Rowen Dragespear
Urias Formonde
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>>164830824
Arena isn't so hard.
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>>164831362
The sad part is the meta is in an objectively better position than it has been in a long time but it FEELS like utter garbage because every deck is based around utter bullshit in some way and a focus on hard counters.
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>>164831512
>Erika Sumeragi
FUCKING WEEB CARRYING AROUND A KATANA

BULLY
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How long until we get porn of gobbu being fucked by roaches?
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>>164831303
*with non-meta decks
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>>164831603
DELETE THIS
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>>164828695
just play around the algorithm fucking you on purpose ;^)
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>>164831503

Board clears, Card draw, Healing, Face damage, DoD, Call of Cocytus and your JO crystals of courses.

No followers they only limit the potential of your intellect.
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>>164831493
This is everything after all 38 tickets.
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What happens in a Daria mirror match?

Just "me hit face" to see who wins first?
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>>164831257

I think she is a demon that rides a black dragon.
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>>164831442

>tfw playing against dirtrune as Control Shadow

If ever there was a hard counter in video games, it would be dirtrune vs. slow shadow
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>>164831536
But its just Pirates and Reno decks, whats so good about it
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Not really a fan of all these discard card for X effect
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>>164831415
I-I want Forte to rub my peepee while I lay on her lap and nurse from her breasts
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>>164831509
Dirtrune's got a ton of great tools and its two new cards really help with its consistency, while timeless witch is amazing for just not dying.

But bahamut shits over all its possible gameplans and it has no real hard way of ending the game other than grind, and there are better grinder decks.

You underestimate it and you eat calamituos curse, petrify, taboos, and you have a bad time.
But even then unless you raelly overextended, it's not that hard to just keep going and kill them through all their shit anyways.
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>>164831668
Impossible
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>Slam dunking other Shadow players
Betrayal has never felt so good

>>164831680
Dirtune dumpsters Shadow period, feels pretty bad.
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>>164831675
pray to go second
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Come help private match, senpai
Id 70674
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>>164831668
forgot to post image
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>finally get my first 3 of animated card
>it's gelt
I don't know how to feel about this.
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>>164831675
The one who RNG's a better Dorothy wins
This card is a mistake
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>4 dragon wins and 2 ranked matches dailies
>bring my discard dragon to ranked
>1 hour later
>not even 1 win
>lost like 600 points


H-hear!
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>>164822831
>Which cards should I use if I'm not going full Daria?

Daria is a must have in any deck since she spellboost Dshift if you get it and draws you a hand. Put in Oglers, Blade mages, pretty much anything that you can reduce the cost on, if it is a follower.

The hard part is getting a good mix of aggro follower cards and spells to spellboost Dshift. Never flood the board with more than 3 cards since board clears are common and every good player keeps some around.
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>>164831805
LAMP DRAGON
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>>164831782
Forte and Seraph are good cards.
>>
I am primed and ready to slam dunk Mordecai on turn 8
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>>164831680
Not quite as hard as seraph v dshift or aggro versus dshift, but yean.
Basically an instaloss
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>>164831719
I feel like Dirt would have been great with all of it's new cards if the rest of the crafts were stuck in DE.

Before I had adapted to RoB, I definitely lost quite a few times to Dirtrune thanks to their new cards. It may not be super strong or consistent, but it feels like that deck has enough steam to play until both players deck out or die.
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>>164831805
You should have charged your JO
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>>164831603
soonâ„¢
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>>164831719
timeless witch is literally a worse ward unless she is dropped behind a ward and the enemy has a spell with the direct face damage and want to finish you off.. so many if
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>>164831512
Thanks! I guess I missed Erika's last name during the story.
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I know it's not a real sample in this week 2 meta and things will obviously be different later, but I just really wanted to be able to say that Tyrant Shadow has a 60% win rate in Masters.
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>>164831828

good for you, sport
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>>164831535
>doesnt even have the taker of two

Lmao
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>>164831634
I feel like I'm lacking a bit in face damage spells, I've got board clear on lock though

No healing other than Draconic Fervour though
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>>164831891
>Tfw you can't even shitpost properly
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>>164831930
I just started playing like two months ago you dweeb
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>>164831682
Class balance is way better than it's been in a long time.
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>>164831423
Warcraft as its base pretty much guaranteed its dominance as long as they made a good game. Not amazing, just good. They failed even at that.
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>>164831678
>that rides a black dragon
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>>164831886

twenty
four
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>>164831886
Wouldn't be surprised if its the one guy in Masters playing 39 games with the deck
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>>164831865
This is dirtrune we're talking about.
Having 10000000000 wards is not an if, it is a when. The when being "after turn 3"
And trust me, pre-RoB I died to DoD and Demonic Strike all the fucking time as dirtrune.

She has a place.
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>>164831415
Forte always claims to idolize dragons, but just wants to be a strong human man's wife and raise a family!
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>>164831512

I forgot that Urias had such a villainous last name too. He just keeps coming up with more reasons for why he's my favorite leader behind Luna

>>164831941

Draconic is your only heals that the /svg/ meme approved deck has, and you're supposed to rely on DoD, snipe, barrage and demonic strike for face damage. If you want EVEN more board clear, humpty dumpty is a meme card that basically acts like a spell anyways.
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This is why i hate T2 sometimes
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>>164831682
That's part of the bullshit.
If you look at what's viable you have almost every class in a tier 1 or 2 position, and tier 2
decks aren't that much worse than tier 1, or outright counter certain tier 1 decks. Compare this with the meta for the last year where it was just SHAMAN tier 1 and everything else trying to compete with it.

The shitty part that makes this meta genuinely unfun is that when you look down at the decks it's either pirates, jade, or reno. There is practically no variance whereas with the shaman meta you'd at least see variations here and there.
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>>164832078
She's ferocious in battle, but surrenders to her husband's penis!
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>>164831968
>2 month
>take of two

I get selector supreme take a lot time but taker of two can literally be done in 20 games. Especially since you have 12k gold sitting for some reason.
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>>164832118
Why are you complaining about good cards
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>>164831858
How is Seraph vs DShift hard? It is quite literally a coinflip.
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>>164832118
Man this is easy.
Just choose both.
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>>164832141
She always gets testy with him, but he just gives her a hug and she melts as he carries her to the bedroom!
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>>164831175

Post deck list.
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>>164832179
Because i wanted BOTH
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>>164832175
> but taker of two can literally be done in 20 games.
Yeah sure you the guy who average 5-0
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>>164832130
>Watching competitive HS
>Who goes tharr
>I'm in charge now
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>>164831782
I feel like you should reroll for at least 5 legos. They dont give DE packs anymore?
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>>164831886
Where is this data from? Where can I check it?
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>>164832175
>two can literally be done in 20 games.
Okay, do it. Show me you going 5-0 20 times in a row.
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>>164832281
Nope, only standard and RoB. Digital TCGs get harder and harder to get into the longer you wait from the game's release to get into them.
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>>164832183
Because Dshift usually gets off on turn 7-9, while the earliest seraph can get off is on turn 9.
Combine that with petrify and Seraph has a very bad time.
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>>164832281
I got 18 RoB, 10 Standard, and 10 DE
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>>164831860

I plan to make an aggro dirt rune deck once I have all the right cards. It feels like it could be a lot of fun with their crazy and wacky extra effects.

Dirtrune would be perfect if there were strong ward cards in it though. A missed opportunity from Cygames to create a Dirtrune control deck. All of the aggro decks in the game get absolutely stone walled by high ward cards and I think others are starting to catch on.

If an aggro deck gets cock blocked by a high ward deck, then the game comes down to a "whom can play their, Fuck You I win" card fastest.
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>>164832281
You should be getting 10 Standard and 10 DE packs from completing the tutorial, according to this.
https://steam.shadowverse.com/news?announce_id=162
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>win 1 game with dragon
>can't win because no forte

it's pathetic how one class depends on one card to do anything. i can't do anything, damn
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>>164832280
Patches and buccaneer are unironically more harmful than Yogg-Saron. And I shit on yogg at every opportunity as being the most damaging card ever created aside from maybe pre nerf undertaker. Buccaneer is very nearly a new undertaker.
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>>164832420
Just use seabrand it's practically the same thing.
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>>164832118

Oh no... you have two good choices, My condolences about your autism
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>>164832420
If only you had some other high damage storm follower in that class anon. If only you had some other high damage storm follower with a condition too.
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>>164824239
Yes

All classes have 3-4 broken cards that completely ruin the game

Albert and daria for example are absolutely fucking retarded

how come daria gets 2 bonus defense from the evolve?

Literally turn 5 7/7 plus 0 cost followers
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Who keeps adding all these generals to the OP?

What is it with cucks here and their 'ebin' trolling?
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>>164832420
Discard dragon doesn't need forte to win
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Almost won, too bad my crystals weren't charged enough
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>>164832348

>My face when I petrify; bahamuts, Elana's, Khawys, Mord's, Ancient elf and more

It is an orgasm each time.
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What did she mean by this?
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>>164832490
How is Albert retard? Literally a 3 pointer at turn 5. And at turn 9 there are shit ton of counter to him.

Also Daria deck brick a lot, so there is the trade off
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>>164832420
For you
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>>164832572
That's a deck now it's even on gamepress.
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>>164832490
control blood doesn't get jack shit

all control blood gets is 1 card that allows them to be barely viable and that's revelation
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Why not 3Forte in jackoff dragon for the efficient use of evo points for 8 face damage per?
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>>164832590
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>>164832572
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>>164832590
vengeance counters albert o wait
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>>164831503
Welcome to the wizardhood, brother.
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>>164832523
Discard dragon doesn't win
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>>164831320
apparently in control blood

>>164831246
god of democracy <3
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>>164832450
>>164832478
>shitter/more expensive versions of forte

nah, bro

>>164832523
discard isn't working cause im facing nothing but aggro bloods
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>>164832082
>Try it out in unranked
>Turn 1 pass
>Turn 2 pass
>Turn 3 pass
>Turn 4 pass
>Turn 5 JO Crystal

h-hear the dragons roar
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>>164831973
It doesn't mean shit when all of the classes revolve around the same cluster of cards and win conditions.

>>164832664
Because JO Dragon is a dumb meme and retards here don't want it to actually be good, they just want the joke to work.
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>>164832730
>>164831320
He's also often a 1 of in aggro blood.
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>>164832702
How the fuck does this deck work.

Is this actually what JO Dragon is supposed to be? I'm so confused
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>>164832643
I'm aware. I just liked the fact that she themis'd my doggo and the previous turn she dropped the tamer and banished the cat
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most underrated art in the game
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>>164832731
>More expensive version of a card
>In a class with ramp
>And card discount
>Card discount that comes with a free search too
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>>164832731
>more expensive than forte

Wrye is a silver card and seabrand is bronze.

???
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whats the best shadowcraft deck currently? I just started playing since the xpac and want to play that class
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>>164832813
an adorable pic
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>>164832675
>>164832686
>Literally no real argument
If you can't have ward up or protection that far in game against any deck you deserve to lose
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>>164832731
>nah bro
Forte gets cucked by a single fucking ward, I have literally never gone a forte game were Forte was left unanswered for a single turn. If you wanna be an ass and craft 3 of her then do it but 5 mana for 4 damage is a good deal for a bronze card compared to a 6 mana 5 damgage and dies to fucking elf child may.
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>>164832813
That grill is not cute at all though?
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>>164832813

Those faces are derp as fuck and her anatomy is ALL FUCKED UP
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>>164832675
>feeding your loli on hamburgers
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THE MEMES STOP HERE

What's the best Dragoncraft deck
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How is roach combo against nep, daria, and agro blood?
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>>164832958
JO Dragon seems good if you don't want to play anything for the first 4 turns

Unless I'm just getting really unlucky
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>>164832908

But the atmosphere and overall composition is 10/10
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>>164832567
>mfw I petrify a JO Rowen's crystal twice and he concedes immediately
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>>164832958

The one with Forte-mama
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>>164832731
seabrand is bronze and costs 1pp less
it should be played on 7th turn to have storm though
much better vs wards/spells too
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>>164832735

That sounds about right.
>>
Need a concede for daily mission kind anons

45746
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>>164832868
The point is you need to have it against sword because if you don't and they have Albert you lose. Any turn after 9 where you're at 10 against sword and don't have a ward up you could just lose the game.
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>>164832958
Ramp Dragon is by far the best. JO Dragon is a giant meme, Discard is a meh deck and Face Dragon is workable

Ramp > Face > Discard > Literal shit > JO
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Nep mirror matches are so dumb.

>nobody plays anything for seven turns
>then race to drop as many Mordecais as possible
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>>164832850

Most likely Aggro, but all variants seem to be fairing pretty well since RoB
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Somewhat new player here, what's the general time frame on them nerfing things? Already sick of this turn 7 OTK roach meme.
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>>164833084
>Forte will never ride you to battle.
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if Khawy eats a roach does he heal for the buffed damage or only for 1?
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>>164833061

Thank you anon senpai desu
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>>164832813
Nah
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>>164832961
In my experience:

>Nep
You have to kill before turn 6, or be eternally cockblocked by wards

>Daria
Not as good as you'd think since they can kill you by turn 6, but not impossible

>Aggro Blood
Does great against aggro blood provided you can easily kill Veight. They do most of the work for you, and you just need to deal the finishing blow with roach.
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>>164833127
they very rarely nerf things and otk roach isn't even a t1 deck
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how much longer until I'm able to play shadowverse without taking 15 damage from levi and piercing rune for 1pp?
>>
>>164833127
just play wards bro
>>
>>164833127
get used to it theyre not gonna do anything about roach in the near future
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>>164833127
Play shadow.
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>>164833220
What is pixie mischief?
>>
>>164833215
Oh it is, it just isn't recognized yet .
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>>164833084
fortards are so retarded
>if i cant hit face then is useless !
literally subhumans
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>>164833134
Just be a good boy to this chick and she might make your dream come true
>>
>>164833164

Jesus


PSA: Khawy's Last Words only trigger after damage is dealt to both him and his attacker. RUN YOUR BIG DUDE IN
>>
>>164833215
people calling it tier 2 aren't running snipe in it though
>>
>>164833115
Dshift mirrors are worse

>nobody plays anything for seven turns
>both players hands brick
>then race to hit concede as fast as possible
>>
>>164833127

They're not going to nerf shit unless a deck reaches mid 60s% in win rate.
>>
>made an aggro blood concede
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>>164833205
animated glint dragon is one of the few animated I don't liquefy on sight, I have x1 of him, to keep the art
>>
>>164833301

I too enjoy playing Death's Breath on turn 6
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>>164833205

Someone photoshop JO on the dragon and /hsg/ and (you) on the soldiers
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>>164832797
>>164832702
I'd rather bet on grea than that awkward as hell build. Grea and Harnessed glass do wonders
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>>164833279
That's not his question I think. He's asking if the temporary buffed damage is taken into account for the heal or it's always the base atk of the card.

I think it's the current atk at the time of Khawy's death, but I haven't been able to see it to confirm it.
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>>164833340
>plays death breath
>you should come on my adventure
>demonic storm
>i'm leaving hmph
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>>164833084
So what's the Storm Ramp deck? Game-ai and gamepress differentiate it from regular Ramp. There already seems to be a fuck ton of Storm followers in normal Ramp decks
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>>164833301
They generally do if you manage to not explode vs them in 6 turns and can maintain card advantage.

>>164833370
You have a dull sense of humor.
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How do you get alternate hero portraits? I saw someone using a cute girl for blood instead of Urias, and I'd like to replace blood, rune, dragon, and haven heros with cute girls
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>>164833261
I haven't managed to find a shadow deck that works in this meta. Nep is just RNG fuckery, control shadow doesn't really exist, and I haven't seen any aggro shadow so I assume it's garbage.
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>>164832224
I posted it yesterday's threads. Hint, use the new rush cards and cyclone blade and focus on playing for board control instead of rushing face.
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>>164833301
Wow fuck you anon I wish for veight to fuck your ass dry
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>>164833419

>play Khawy or Death's Breath again

If you aren't cycling like mad for those cards vs. aggro blood you deserve to drown in the bat dicks
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>>164833340
How do you reliably get Necromancy 6 by turn 6?
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>>164833439
Shop => customize => buy leader

500 rupies or 500 crystals for each leader
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>>164833439
500 rupee or 500 crystals per alt leader, it's in the shop

alt rune is erasmus, alt heaven is haruda, lol
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>>164833340
but i play sword
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>>164831041
>otk roach
Isn't that deck really weak to wards though? I'd imagine that'd be a good match up
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>>164833446
Aggro Shadow is fine and is the only Shadow archetype with a positive winrate. Why no one plays it is beyond me because it's not like the deck is bad in the slightest.
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New thread
>>164833538
>>164833538
>>164833538
>>164833538
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>>164833205

I'm the guy who posted Highway to Hell. This indeed gorgeous and I never appreciated the detail before.
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>>164833446
aggro shadow is great with all the new removal they got. But it doesn't use any shiny new legendaries so everyone ignores it.
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New thread:
>>164833527
>>164833527
>>164833527
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>>164833394
>>164833279
It would only be relevant if you had a second roach on the board because ramming a roach into khawyz kills the roach anyways

I would assume it takes into account the buffed attack power but I haven't tested it and am not stupid enough to run into the situation where that would ever happen anyways.
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>>164833516
It's probably just worse than aggro bats overall.
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>>164833504
>>164833506
I'll check it out. Thanks guys
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>>164833516
is the data from game-ai? gamewith aggro shadow deck looks questionable af
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>>164833587
I think it was Game-Ai, I don't remember honestly. The deck's players were nonexistent though, it's sad.

>>164833573
Aggro Shadow just isn't popular period. Even in DE I just don't think people gave a fuck.
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>>164833513
You'd think so, but you're generally only able to put out 1 ward at a time, which they can easily remove with pixie mischief and other such bullshit, thus ending you. And guardian sun needs to be out ASAP or it's an instant loss.
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>>164832490
I'd be pretty happy if Daria were just 4/4 base and nothing else changed honestly. I constantly find myself being 1 damage short of being able to kill her and stabilize.
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>>164833826
This. A turn 4 5/5 that drops an entire board on you is fucking hard to deal with.
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>>164833439
But the default Rune and Haven leaders are already cute girls
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I keep getting distracted by the qt cards. How can I make a deck with no cute anime girls?
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>>164834253
Haven is debatable, Rune has nice tits but a hideous face. Regardless they're both look too old desu senpai.
The dragon and blood alternates in the store are perfect, guess I'll keep the current rune and haven leaders until they're upgraded
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>>164834357
>Not liking Eris
Fuck off
>>
What's the ranking distribution like in this game since you can't derank?
>>
>>164823825
The only story boss harder than elite is Arisa's stage 8 Nexus imo
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How do you even abuse of Castle in the Sky?
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Can anyone give me a decklist with sahaquiel in it? She's my waifu
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