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HIGH Blood pressure in Ranked Edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/ and made by CYGAMES same company of /gbfg/ /domg/.
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
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Get your cheat sheets here (To be fixed): http://imgur.com/a/oj8uw

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Make a copy to edit your own.
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A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
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Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
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Search by artists:
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Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
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>>164777745
this one was made earlier so it is the rightful heir to the throne
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I'm fadded to be a failure sorry /svg/
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>>164778340
>>164777930
>made earlier
>posted in the thread too slow
feels bad man
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>>164778561
>>164778340
>>164777930
Just don't let the thread die and repost a link to the OP around 700 post so people just jump to this one
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>>164783886
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>>164783886
Okay
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>>164778340
is that, dare I say....a jojoke?
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> get roaches
> don't get bounces
> get bounces
> don't get roaches
> get bounces and roaches
> die turn 6 because this deck has no way to defend itself early game
> get bounces, roaches and somehow survive to 7-8pp with 1 health
> enemy just spams wards because they can see the telegraphed roach combo since 4 turns ago when I evolved Feena

Impressive. Very nice.
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>>164788638
gg (it's short of "get good")
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>>164788993
Right againt the third now
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Just started and putting together a daria deck. Have 2 of her and pretty much everything else except the time levi's. They seem to be 2/2s with an evolve effect for i think 3 dmg spells. Am I supposed to evolve them exclusively? I cant see me evolving 2/2s often or them surviving to make them worth 800 each. Am I missing something that makes these must haves for the deck?
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How to make SV fun again.

1.Remove Yurius from the game.
2.Razory Claw can't hit face.
3.Vampy only get 1/1 on evo.
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>>164789213
levi is one of the most broken cards in the game and an auto-include in any and every rune deck
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>2× petrified his Khawys
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Xth for Vampy a CUTE!
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>>164777745
How good is this shadowcraft midrange deck?

I think it's almost completely normal.
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>>164789213
I hope you get hate crimed for deciding to not reroll that shit and making a deck for it. Anyone that sincerely uses it, should burn.
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>>164789357
>running petrify in tempo rune

Tales from D rank.
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Post big Reapers.
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>>164789213
>I cant see me evolving 2/2s often
have you ever played an aggro deck? what the fuck else do you expect to evolve?

levi is 3 mana dragon warrior with -1 health and flexibility upside, when you're a class without dragon warrior / priest of the cudgel / etc
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>>164788638
More like

>get roaches and bounces
>time to kill kekeke
>adversary puts khawy/aurelia/frontguard
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>>164789395
Wow, rude much?
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>>164789103
okay this one got me, I have no idea
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>>164789280
No.
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Hey guys! I want to make a new deck. Which should I build? Nepthys or Control Blood
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>>164789326
Well after actually playing Rune, I disagree. He lines up with all the other combos in this game, thus balanced. This game is nuts in General which makes it balanced, think DOTA.
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Asking again, why every roach combo list I see is running Selwyn's command instead of mischief? As random as it is, at least mischief can actually deal with late game wards, and not just pretend it is a combo piece.
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>>164789476
Just a lil bit of honesty anon :^)
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>>164789387
>charon
??

>3 urd, 3 necroassassin, 0 lurching corpse, 0 attendant of night
????

>3 cerberus 0 phantom howl
???????
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>>164789453
t. a shitter
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>tfw Forest matches have gotten 10x more annoying because you have to wait for retards that can't do math to figure how to add 1 and 1 together
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>>164789280
1.make sword strong again
2.remove khawy
3.remove daria
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>Fanfare: If an allied follower with Ward is in play, put a Timeworn Mage Levi and Piercing Rune into your opponent's hand
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>>164789453
A1 actually, shadow is more popular now, in my rank mostly, so I'm just ahead of the curve in teching it. Your prob a shadow fag and yes I know DoD is the "standard"
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Which one?
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>>164789680
>khawy

Seriously?
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>>164789505
One of the best amazing card of blood
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>play forest
>never draw fairy cards
>include more fairy cards
>never draw IWin cards
>incllude more IWin cards
>repeat
How do people play and enjoy forest is beyond me
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>>164789745
Do you really need to ask?
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>>164789745
Left probably
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>>164788638

>No way to defend itself early game
>Gobby, AE, Justice, May, Fairys

I mean, you'll lose if a blood nigga gets a good hand, but everyone does right now.
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Say something about her in 3 words or less
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>won on T6 twice with my blood deck i just made for daily
uh oh i think the game might be too fast now
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>>164789830
slut on slut
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Thanks for the laugh, rowenbro
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For a beginner what deck would be better for the long term. A Vampy deck or a Cerberus
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>>164789745
Prince and Foul are great
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>>164789830
Nice big titties.
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>>164789830
Stonking Large Tits
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>>164789808
Going by the rankings in the OP Prince of Darkness isn't that great and Pluto and Ceridwen are both quite good.
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>Forest is dead
Seems about the same.
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>>164789830
Overrated
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>>164789830
HEAR THE DRAGONS
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>>164789760

It helps now that they have 9 fucking ways to draw roach-kun.
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>>164789932
Satan wins games dude.

And foul tempest is a necessity.
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Why are 90% of vengeance cards so fucking terrible?
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>>164789864
Nah just beats other aggros decks faster or decks that lose to aggro in general. 1v1 and I'll show you.
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>>164789990
Would you take Forte's dragon?
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>>164790038
There are too many ways to go from 10HP to 0 in one turn.
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>>164789982
Good luck killing your roaches on wards.

lmao
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>>164790038
I actually really like beast dominator. I played against her and found it quite pleasing to see her attack getting reduced and slapping her master.
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>>164790038
Their effects don't matter because you just die
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>>164789882
Vampy, you learn the game and save a lot of resources in the long run, to know what you actually want to play later.
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>>164790131
I used my roach on a scrap golem to make sure my Fat Elf connected, and since he couldn't remove Ancient Elf the concede followed shortly. Roach win games even when it doesn't win games.
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>>164790038
I mean sadistic night is really good.
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>>164790138
pathetic
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>>164790068

I'd recommend either Aggro or Midrange Shadow, depending on how you want to play. The lists and playstyles are pretty similar, you use Cerb+Howl and melt the opponents face off.

Cerb is the only leggo for those lists, so it should be relatively cheap to build a game-ai list
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>>164789830
Employed breeding cow
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I fucking LOVE Ultimate Carrot.
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>Rune player takes 10 minutes to make his move
>On turn 1
Joke's on you fag, I'm a NEET so my time is worthless.
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What is the significance of Feena and goblin mage?

Are they both in a storyline in GBF or something?
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>>164790328
INSULT ME MORE, QUEEN OF INSULTS
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im really tempted to spend 2000 crystals and 10000 vials to make a control blood deck but I know it's a terrible idea. Please help stop me.
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>>164789830
Nicesssss.
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>>164790423
When you play soimjething that isn't braindead you'll understand
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>>164790483
It is a terrible idea. If you want to play control try some Seraph variant, Nep, or even Sword. At least these decks can win games without praying for a miracle.
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>>164790390
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>>164790612
Control blood is better than control sword and nep.
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>>164790483
Please don't. You're clearly new. You have a shit card library. You're just pissing your money away for something you don't know how to use. You'll play like shit with older lists, hate it, quit it and then all your dosh was wasted.
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>your deck consists of 22 3pp and 2pp cards
>you manage to pull all your high cost cards first instead anyway
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>>164790650
Daily reminder to eat your vegetables.
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>>164790038
Blood should get an amulet that gives vengeance.
Like 3 Cost. Countdown 2.gives vengeance.
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>>164790650
i want carrot to leave
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>>164790390
That dude has been winning story games for me with otherwise shitty decks both because I have no clue how to build, and card advantage from the search and floating. And the voices are a pleasure too.
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>>164790739
Almost like there's a 40% chance of that happening
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>>164790696
Must be why I haven't seen a single control Blood in masters for about three days.
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awoooo
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For some reason I always think this game has more classes than it actually does
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>>164790718
im not new. I just have no blood legendaries and want to build a deck that isn't agro bats.
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>>164790773
t. Bahamut
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>>164790650
>yfw bahamut is eating carrots to maintain his deep black frame
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still need one more albert/alwida's, not sure how else i can improve upon this
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>>164790831
>2017
>playing otohime

Life is hard in B rank
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I wish I could've seen his face
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>>164790650
This makes me laugh extra hard cause some ramp dragon played Bahamut and I had two ultimate carrots so he could never attack face for 4 turns cause the carrots kept coming back and ended up losing to carrot lethal.

Ultimate Carrot > Ultimate Dragon
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>>164790696
>blood
>control
>better than any other control deck
wew, I almost died laughing.
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>>164790762
16 hp + all that drain is impossible. There's not enough amulet removal in the game let aloen accepted in the meta to cope
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>running mid or control sword without Monika
Explain yourselves.
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>>164791015
I honestly don't know what to do with either of my lists at this point, there's just so many fucking options.
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>>164790650
>bahamut
>teenager bahamut
>baby bahamut
>woops i destroyed the world bahamut
>baby bahamut is the strongest

This dragon really makes me think
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>>164789023
Not sure you're still in the thread, I apologize for the BM I needed to complete my own daily mission. I'll give a concede 27832 if you still want.
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>>164790739
Thanks card gods.
Its not like I wanted to win anyway.
I can handle 1st morde but when the barage with Nep mordes and urd spawned ones Im fucked.
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>>164790817
and I have a 40% chance of doing this
*unzips dick*
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so seraph>nepnep, daria, and control decks>agro decks>seraph?
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So Balor in Nep deck or no?
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>>164790928
>White Paladin
>Banner
N-Nani? Multi-archetyping?
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>>164790951

what am I supposed to be looking at here?
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why do people even play dshift? do they enjoy auto-winning against control and auto-losing against aggro?

that doesn't sound very fun or effective to me
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>>164791090
Just make sure to toss in albert, art of the ninja, and amelia
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>>164791227
If Midnight Haunt ever comes down, that's a sign that a 13/13 Tyrant is about to ream your ass next turn.

Daria runs no Wards or amulet removal, so he's fucked.
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>>164791227
Tyrant.
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reposting in case anon didn't see it

>>164790682
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/6?hash=1.6.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.67WPs.67WPs.67WPs.5_pzw.5_p-4.5_p-4.5_p-4.67SGY.67SGY.6BI6S.6BI6S.6BI6S.6BLHQ.63ilo.63ilo.63ilo.5_rhS.5_rhS.5_rhS.63gZA.63gZA.67Yro.67Yro.67Yro.63i_Q.63i_Q.63kio.63kio.fqZ4o.6BM-o.6BM-o.65GMy.63i_a.63i_a.63i_a.63iHA.63iHA

It's a JP master cblood deck with unicas and no Yurius.
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>>164791227
20 shadows and deathly tyrant in hand
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>>164788638
Pixie mischief, DoD, or Will of the Forest wards.
It's a thinking elves deck.
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>>164790963
>Ppl call me a shitter for running petrify in Tempo run

You see this shit faggots? Shadow has the resources to stall you till turn 10 if they have to.
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>>164791321
>>164791341

> 20 shadows

uhhh yeah ooooook, that 3/3 sure is going to be scary
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>>164791227
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>>164791235
I have a theory.Dshitters are bots there's no way to enjoy playing it
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>>164791321
>Daria runs no Wards or amulet removal, so he's fucked.
so tyrant memes are the chemo for daria?
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>>164791015
that slut needs some fat titties.
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>>164791424
You're retarded.
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>>164791424
.. Tyrant triggers at 20, anon.
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How long did it take to make the deck that you wanted?
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2016 called. They want their birds back.
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>>164791384
Hello new friend.
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>>164791015
But I am, senpai
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can i get a concede please
37054
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>>164791597
about a week because I didn't reroll
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>>164791597
How many times did you cum in your life?
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Is this sword list any good? I'm about to craft albert but I'm not really sure if sword is really worth it.
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>>164791597

I had a 3x Cerb 3x LotF midrange shadow deck within two days of starting to play SV, back during DE

this game is laughably accessible compared to Hearthstone
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>>164791015
>Flat Monika
No thanks
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>>164788638
> get roaches
> don't get bounces

having triple roaches is the way to get the most damage though.
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>>164791597
1st day rerolled what I wanted and made a deck with it. Slowly made other decks till I found my preferred playstyle.
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>>164791654
thank you
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>>164791123
22240
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>>164791654
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>>164791696
No
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>>164789280
Way to make Bloody Mary almost useless.
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>>164791696
If you're running Tsubaki as your only removal swap her for DoD. Other than that seems to be the average mid-range list. I can't tell if a class is worth it or not for you, you've got to decide that yourself.
t. Sword main
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>>164791507
Is fate of most granblue females to become cows.
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What's the Take 2 class tier list?

Sword seem retardedly stronger than anything else while shadow seem shit
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>>164791904
Sword>Shadow>Dragon>Forest>Blood>Haven>Rune
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so control blood is just hoping they let bloody mary live so you can use a bunch of cards that will murder you if you ever try to use them without her?
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>>164791696
Midrange is like dead right now though.
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>>164791664
>>164791705
>>164791812
Alright then
I guess that the best way to make money it's just to do the dailies and generally level up all the classes and play ranked with your strongest/preferred deck?
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>>164791904
Sword is easy mode.
Shadow is 2nd strongest.
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>>164791696
Dont craft Albert! Just buy RoB packs, they literally throw up alberts and darias and everything in that set is useful af. I would only craft Standard legendaries as pulling the ones you need are the hardest since there are so many of them.
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Hello /svg/

I am posting my profile because I want /svg/ to be my witness.
I will climb to Masters using exclusively Discard Dragon because of how much people in pretty much in every website bullies and shitposts about that deck.
Also because I pulled 5 Dragoons off my packs during the release

I want to inspire those players that feel down and depressed after losing 1500 points in a bad luck streak, or that believe they aren't good enough to reach Masters and start to sandbag.

Would you be my witness along this journey /svg/?

Also if you want post your profiles pages
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>>164791973

It's ONE of the win conditions they have, yes.
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8pp
5 5
gain 4 shadow

Great shit shadowbabbs
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>>164791597
I just vialed everything that wasn't shadowcraft to make shadowcraft decks
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>>164791828
Why would you be excited to lose?
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>>164791973
No, you use Mary + reach at around 10pp to finish the game. After praying hard enough for them to not set up lethal on you by turn 7, while getting dicked by other control decks.
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>>164791597
One day, even though I didn't reroll, because I made a budget version. Regular version took me a few days.
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Is this a good daria deck

It's lacking one more copy of Daria though, needs 1k more vials.
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>>164792106
Nice deckbuilding dumbass.
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>>164792129
Cuckolds
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>>164789830
shes a dork
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(ง •̀_•́)ง Skyknights, Prepare for battle (ง •̀_•́)ง
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>>164791973
No you use bloody Mary on turn 7-10 depending on situation.
So you can drop her and use Razor claw or/and Dire bond for massive face dmg.
Dire bond is probably greatest use since it gives card draw power + heal without taking the 6 dmg first, that instead goes to their face.
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>>164792129
Anon helping someone is a adorable thing and everyone should share concedes.
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>>164792060
>Dont craft Albert! Just buy RoB packs, they literally throw up alberts
Fuck no, that's bullshit. I still yet have to get a single Albert despite opening only RoBs lately.
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pathetic...
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>>164792007
What's control running that makes it so much more appealing than mid right now? Not needling, genuinely curious.
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Can someone help me with an RoB pure Elana's list? I'm not sure how reliable the one on gamepress is.

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/elana-havencraft-0
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>>164792106
>4 pp
>4 3
>gain 2 shadow
Why is this allowed?! Shadow building abilities should be 1/1 zombies!!!
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>>164791971
>>164792051
Always got shit that wanted synergy I couldn't get for shadow, I guess with the right cards it can be strong
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>>164792085
Good luck, I hope it works out and that you don't quit halfway through and switch to another deck
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>>164792286
Hi
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>>164788401
Wait I forgot some things, 'make' should be 'makes' and it should be 'enjoy playing it' not 'enjoying play it'.

The first is easier, 'tilting in games' is present tense so you need to change 'make' out of the infinitive form to present tense 'makes'.

The second is making me pull my hair out because holy shit fuck English can be obtuse when you get to the nitty gritty.

Both 'enjoy' and 'play' are verbs. 'enjoying' and 'playing' are both capable of being gerund nouns (verbs that become nouns) or present participles (which can be used as adjectives, nouns, or used in compound verbs). I've sat here the past 40 minutes trying to make sense of it all. At this point I just fucking give up. In this case the proper thing to say was 'enjoy playing it' because fucking reasons. There are a million counter examples out there ('I am enjoying playing it' or 'I am enjoying play with you' are both correct) but I can't explain to you why if you had a gun to my head. I'm sorry. I wish we had a board for this kind of shit.
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>>164792330
Control survives the board clears while still shitting on aggro bats and having a better chance to win versus Daria, so that's basically just better match-ups as of right now and the perk of not relying on Otohime to do stuff.
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>>164792330
Basically drop the otohimes, sages, fervids and all other stuff in favor of frontguard, paladin, blitz lancer, olivia, baha, etc.

Either way both decks are weak and a meme.
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>>164792085
>discard dragon
>not JO
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>>164792085
Post dick, I got 4 dragoons
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>>164792197
Looks standard. I personally dislike Magic Missile, I think Snipe is better. Also, 3 Strike seems too much. Once you get your third Daria, I'd go
-1 Strike
-2 Magic Missile
+3 Angelic Snipe
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>>164790650
>1 bahamut
>1000000000000 ultimate carrots

Who would win in a fight?
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>>164792197
That's Demon Daria for advanced players in masters. I'd stick to the standard netdeck to be honest.
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Should I spend the vials on this deck? I just need a matriach, an odin, and a vamp queen
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>>164792085
Give dicks i pulled 8 dragoons
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>>164792085
HEAR THE DRAGONS ROAR
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>playing aggro blood
>always only have 2 cards in hand by turn 5

im i playing it wrong?
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>>164790835
That's because the classes have multiple decks with varied playstyles, so despite having fewer classes than Hearthstone there's more variety in playable decks overall.

>>164791597
I made Aggro Shadow and Storm Haven right after finishing Story mode and during Elite AI games.
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>>164792569
Thanks

>>164792601
>advanced players in masters

uhhh what's so complex about Daria decks that makes it for master players?
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>>164792008

Don't forget that you get 200g a pop from beating each bot on expert
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>>164792060
For the last 9 days I've opened so many RoB packs I've lost count. I've gotten every single legendary except for Albert and Daria. I also haven't gotten any Salamanders or Tribunals.
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>>164792680
Not really. But you should be almost ready to win by that point.
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To continue seabrand talk
Why facedragon fell off?
because new removals. Every time i play Forte, even with evolve i know for sure she's gonna die next turn
May be it's really time to tech in seabrands, at least they have 4 hp and you can play 2 of them at 10pp
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>>164792648
Cblood is fun and good, but dont be surprised if you lose a bunch when starting out.
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>>164792680
Is your opponent at 5 life? If so, you played it right.
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>>164792767
you should never expect her to survive in the first place
they even gave you a miniforte who's even harder to kill so you can face more
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>>164792330
You can drop the ridiculous 8-10pp cards in the game to close out games, thus board clears don't lose you the game. Which is every deck now.
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>>164792085
discard dragon isn't even bad any more though
all the shitting on it was before RoB where they got actual good cards
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>/svg/ tells me to vial everything but the deck i'll be playing
>get dailies for anything but that deck
o-okay
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>>164792648
Control blood is a meme.

Don't spend a vial on this or else you'll regret a lot.

Aggro vamp is better and costs nearly nothing.
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>>164792085
>425 Gold
Are you trying to buy a leader or are you just lazy?
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>>164792731
What i meant was built as a fun deck for masters, not the standard Daria deck. Still works in all ranks but not as consistent.
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>>164792849
>miniforte
she's not worth 7pp with 4/3 imo
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>>164792969
ignore this retard, control blood is good if you don't play like a retard.
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>>164792965
>vialing everything but the craft you prefer
>not keeping a deck for each craft to get dailies

nigga what
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>>164792889
>not even bad
>37% winrate
>all dragons went back to ramp soon after

yeah, sure
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>>164793058
4/3 storm and can't be targeted, what the fuck else are you gonna play if you don't have fortes on hand
plus she's actually damn useful before that as continuous face and removal bait
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>>164792445
>board
/int/ was kinda like that but /luso/ was killed by shitposters.
>post
I appreciate you effort but seems like you are a stressed person and need to calm down. not like you post was ignored but you helped me today

GLHF
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>>164792965
Who the fuck told you that
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Anyone have a good Control Shadow list that doesn't use Nep?
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How many viewers do the hearthstone cuck streamers mantain when they play shadowverse?
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>>164791015
>needs to compete with Albert and Aurelia for the 5-slot

such a shame, maybe they'll release alternate versions of different cards, like a Summer Cerberus 4PP 3/4 > 3/4 Evolve: Summon a 2/1 Mimi with Rush and 1/2 Coco with Ward
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http://imgur.com/a/MsQwD
Reroll or no?
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>>164793124
as i said before - removals. "Can't be targeted" not so op anymore
it's not worth +2pp -1hp comparing to seabrand
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>>164792965
You got some shitty advice if some anon here told you to vial anything that isn't a meme legendary, and even some of the meme legendaries have some potential with the right support in future expansions.
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>>164791128
post deck
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>>164793058
She is literally just 1 attack below Forte and is more versatile than Forte because she doesn't brick your hand in the early game. What are you complaining about?
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so why isn't vengeance a take 10 damage to activate ability when there are barely any good vengeance cards other than revelation?
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>>164793082
You mean if the game doesn't give you a shit hand. Which happens most of the time because blood low cost followers brings nothing to control play.

BTW if you don't get dire bond early on just concede.
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>>164792965
Build neutral deck. It's pretty decent.
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>>164791597
About 2 weeks without reroll to make a 40k vial deck
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Is there any way to check which card I'm missing from each set?
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>>164793158
I think kripp was the only one that ever had over 5k for more than 10 minutes
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>>164793169
reroll
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>>164793125
It was one of those things where it starts as a small annoyance, but then you pick at it and it turns out to be really really annoying. I am playing Royal though, so Shadowverse as a whole has been pretty rough.

Thank you
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>>164793276
>unga bunga me drop in curve
let me see your dick. i bet you use it once and leave , or even worse you haven't use your dick at all.
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>>164793169
6 leggos is pretty average/bad, reroll
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based shitplayer
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>>164793165
Didn't old mid sword run like 8-9 6 slot cards though? She has some good scenarios where she is the better play than Albert or Aurelia.
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>>164790835
Because 2mana do some shit don't make a entire class different

>>164792965
Some guys are really mean here sorry if i don't prevented this shit advice

>>164793169
>only 4 usable legos
Re roll
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>>164793425
Myaano is cute! CUTE!
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>>164793169
2 Sahaquiel is the same as nothing for a new player because it requires a shit ton of Legendaries to make a deck around it.
Reroll.
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>>164793360
click create cards in cards
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>>164792965
My god stop listening to /svg/ they're literally retarded.
The majority of the people here now are hearthstone refugees from reddit and twitch.
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>>164777745
Why did you put /domg/ in the OP? Is this some sort of revenge for that one time we used Vampy as the OP picture?

That thread got me into playing Shadowverse anyway, so I don't see it as a bad thing.
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i'm going to kill myself
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>>164793614
k
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>>164792548
>>164792671
Im trying to work in a more consistent deck but it's halfway there, it needs a lot of testing because I believe that the current standard build posted everywhere got many flaws because it went too deep into the Discard theme, and as consequence it's filled with subpar cards that leads to weak turns.
I will post a deck once I got something I consider solid for ranked after I playtested enough.

>>164792997
Every expansion after I use up all my gold to buy packs, I inmediatly start to save for the next expansion.
I like to open at least 100 packs each time.
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>tfw Nep was not a complete meme
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>>164793574
They do it because they want to shill the game to other generals
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>>164793223
like I said it's early game damage plus bait and has more late game value
it's a super flexible card that complements face dragon

if face dragon isn't so good anymore it's for different reasons but eyfa is definitely a good addition and better than seabrand
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>>164793682
Pretty gud feel to be had
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>>164793614
Calm down Rowen.
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>>164793313
How did you make that much?
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Have been away from the computer last few days. What is the current consensus on Nep? Run consistent Nep deck where you 100% pull Khawy/Morde etc. or do you give up too much if you limit your follower options like that?
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Post your dicks.
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Man I was about to rape my opponent with this hand and then he dces at the start
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Need a private match win, ID: 19246.

Thanks in advance :3
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>Go first
>lose
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>>164793873
i would use lily on morde/10

i have lost to more discard dragon decks than to nep decks

t A00
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>>164793806
bruh i made that much and even bought the leader pack. they shove gold down your throat at the start.
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>>164793912
nice game shadowcucks
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>>164793912

I'm really getting tired of this shit.

They need to give 1st player 3 orbs.
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>>164793752
>for different reasons
because 1-3 damage is easily removable
seabrand has 4 unevolved
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>>164793912
witch player or arena player?
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>>164792648
It's very good in this meta and it has a lot of enjoyable matchups. Even cblood vs cblood is fun with avoiding lethal and overextending. Just prepare to want to kill yourself if you're against pure elana because those games go to 20+ turns. At least Seraph Elana wins eventually.

It's arguably the 2nd or 3rd hardest deck to play in the game though, because you can actually do stuff like bluff, and you have to know exactly how much damage every other deck in the game is capable of.
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>>164793912
Stop playing sword.
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The only legendaries I ever dusted are Skullfane and Fairy Princess and I kinda regret dusting Skullfane because his art is cool even though he's useless.
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>>164793873
>Run consistent Nep deck where you 100% pull Khawy/Morde etc
that's the better way, in the other version nep is hot garbage unless you get god rng
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>>164794028
This. Both players should get three orbs.
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52121 please
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>>164794028
>>164794223
Maybe they could give the first player a third orb once your opponent has evolved three times?
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>>164793912
>go first
>win
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>>164794037
nobody uses seabrand before rob, why would they use it now
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>>164794145
>have animated Fairy Princess
>See Wolf
>"Hey that might make Rose Queen decent which in turn might make Fairy Princess ok, probably still a bit meme but you know
>Never mind silver bolt is better
>Never mind roaches are better
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>>164794295
can you hit me up with one too
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elves best girls
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>>164794320
Evolving should cost PP.
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Dragon or Haven or Take 2?
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>>164793574
Because someone was saying shit about Vampy in the OP
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>>164794389
Remove race traitor
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>>164793912
>>164794028
>>164794223
>waah i cant win without +1 evo!
>its not fair!
>JO dragon wins without ever evolving even if the opponent goes second

You guys are just a bunch of babies
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Is this a good aggro vamp deck?

What should I replace?
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Which one should I craft? I'm leaning towards the last one since I could use that Odin in other decks
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>>164794028
I really don't get why the first player only has 3 evolves. Evolving is such a relevant mechanic in this game.
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>>164794478
Midnight Vampire is bad
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>>164793912
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>>164794223
that would be dumb, 2 cards is not enough to balance out being a mana behind every turn. never try to design a game
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>>164794482
when it's a last pick posting the rest of the deck really helps
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>>164794448
They are crybbs is impossible for them
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>>164794502
None to be honest.
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>going second means you get 3 Evo points, can evolve first and draws 2 cards instead of one
Fucking why? It literally doesn't make any sense. Usually in card games you want to go first but in this one there is literally zero reason to ever want to go first
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>tfw you throw away all strategies when you get to play prince of darkness hoping to draw the storm 8/8 card to one shot them next turn with
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Noob here, doing Arena.

Olivia + Deathly Tyrant

or

Bahamut + Phantom Howl
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>>164794482
>>164794648
Here we go
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i want /hsg/shitters to leave
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>>164794448
Mage dragon is a t0 deck so you cant compare it to standard decks
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>The percentage for Take Two matches seems more troubling, but we expect the changes brought by Rise of Bahamut to improve the balance. We will continue to carefully watch the Take Two match data in particular and will make any changes that become necessary to ensure fair play.
Arena players, what do you all think about this conclusion? Did RoB improve balance for 1st vs 2nd? I don't think so myself. While Enhance cards do provide powerful late game effects that can deal with 2nd's evo advantage sooner than the player going 2nd, 2nd also has access to these cards so it evens out regardless. The only way they can fix this balance is either to do make some drastic mechanic that provides a player going 1st some advantageous effect, which would be excessive and could fuck with constructed balance, or to make the # of EP even for both players in Arena. Giving 2nd an advantage in EP is too strong in limited.
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>>164794791
Olivia and Bahumat are both top 3 T2 cards, but PH is vastly more versatile than Tyrant, so take the second option.
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>>164794749
>you draw reduce reduce the enemy's hp to 1 instead and lose.
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>>164794791
i'd go for bahamut since phantom howl will trade for great value and set you up to survive till you can drop bahamut
tyrant's mostly a dead card unless you can get to 20 shadows which you probably won't, and olivia's gonna be just about as good as bahamut endgame
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>>164794686
Aggro decks like bats are better going first.
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>>164794478
I use this in ladder if you don't find too much sword/forest change medusa for another thing
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dont know why i cant play a fucking game without this happening
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>>164794858
I doubt the numbers changed much. The decent t5 evolves might have helped just a bit but not enough to make a significant impact on the gap.
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>>164794629
I just said that both players should get three orbs, but second player should still be able to evolve first. In the end the flagship mechanic of this game just makes the midgame extremely one sided because the second player has both the initiative advantage and board control because the get an extra point.
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>>164794360
The worst thing about Fairy Princess is that she locks your hand at 9 cards meaning turn 7 draw is dead. Should've made 2 or 3 fairies 0 cost.
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>>164794335
i don't think you'll ever understand what i'm talking about
that's fine. There is a reason some people need netdecks to climb
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suicide blood: 3/20 - 84468
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>>164794686
>>164794956
>>164794994

You have de advantage of 1pp every turn in the entire match and this is not shit
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>>164794886
>>164794943
Thanks. I went for B + PH
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Should I let him win?
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>>164794812
think both sides are good but id go left
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>>164794983
>Top deck necroassassin and then urd.
Believe in the heart of the cards anon.
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>>164794983
the next 3 draws will be extremaly useful tools to counter aggroblood

nah just another mordecai and kawai
>>164795125
Nah elf is the retard class
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>>164795125
>forest
No poland. Make him work for those points
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>>164794629
Then touch something else, not a core mechanic of the game that makes it unique.
It feels so bad to play an evolve heavy deck and be ALWAYS completely fucked when going first. You should have a disadvantage for being allowed to play your cards and set up first that should balance the game in a sense that at some point it doesn't matter who went first or second, not something that drags you behind the entire game unless you are playing aggro.
That doesn't mean that going first or second shouldn't make a difference, but the additional evo point for the second player is way too strong when combined with the fact that they can play their evolves first as well, since they will always win the "evolve war" unless you are playing something like DShift.
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>>164795073
seabrand is garbage and messes up your emissaries. none of your shit is supposed to survive for long anyway because you just go face with everything and if they waste removals on your little shit they won't have them for forte

alternatively wait until the meta changes and people run less removal
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>>164795125
fuck him. Nobody let me win when i bounced between 50 and 200 points away from master trials.

Not like you actually need 50% winrate to reach masters anyways.
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>tons of cards have evolved only abilities
>only get to use them twice a match if you go first
And sometimes you don't even get to use them at all because you're forced to us other followers instead. They need to rework it and balance it for 3 Evo points each.
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>>164795274
i'm not talking about face dragon you dingus, i'm talking about ramp
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>>164795097
Player 2 has the card advantage and in this game they also have the evo advantage. We can't really compare this to a lot of other card games because of the evo mechanic, which makes the player interaction completely different.
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>lose x matches in a row
>win x - 1 matches in a row
I don't think I'll ever be able to rank up
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>All these Shadow bandwagoners
Can you stop please? I don't want half the ladder to be Haven for three more months. Thanks.
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>>164794984
I forgot about the T5 evo additions too, but yea. Nothing short of making some crazy T5 Evos like a Floral Fencer 2.0 or Cudgel Priest/Dragon Warrior 2.0. But why even escalate the card design when the solution should only apply to limited?
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>tfw decking out with disco dragon
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Anyone use Selwyn command in roach combo? With success?
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>>164788016
So for somebody who never played shadow, should I go control or aggro?
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>>164795441
funny because floral is slowly getting cut
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>>164795093
suicide blood: 4/20 - 88698
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>tfw every craft has a viable detfw
>shadow has nep
>dragon has ramp
>haven has seraph/elana
>forest has roach combos
>blood has control and aggro
>rune has daria
>sword has control
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>>164795583
I mean in Arena where it still is a good pick.
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Outplayed.
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>tfw so justed i cant even get mad at this shit anymore
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>>164795306
>>164795226
>>164795214
He actually had lethal, but he didn't attack with the other roach and ended turn.
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http://imgur.com/a/817b5
Yay or nay?
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>>164795637
>sword has nothing

fixed
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>>164795525
it's good, you can use it early game to push damage and late game to combo with and remove wards
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>>164795359
oh lol
I thought you asked about face dragon because of "Why facedragon fell off?"
I think ramp needs units to stay on the field even less, forte does its job and it doesn't matter much if it survives
eyfa is probably not that good in ramp though because there's better stuff to play at 7pp I agree
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>>164795768
extremely bad, reroll.
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>>164795768
Nay.

Read the reroll guide.
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>>164795745
Because of time out lmao.

He took too much time doing math and his turn passed. Happens a lot with forest scum.
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I sure love playing against unga bunga aggro every match.
What shits on aggro? Control Shadow?
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>>164795569

Aggro or Midrange

All shadow lists are a little slower than normal, simply because they have so many tools that allow them to efficiently control the board, meaning Shadow doesn't follow the bloodbat philosophy of face-hitting.

Control Shadow is wonky, with more variation in composition than either aggro or midrange.

Either way, 3x Cerb is somewhat mandatory to play the class, just decide whether the more floody/aggressive aggro or lich-propagating midrange is more your flavor.

Shadow is a fun class that has a lot of bleed-through in-between its archetypes.
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>>164795768
Nay
This is worse than the previous one
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Why dont people run death tyrant
Its not a bad deck
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>>164795745
maybe if he had a higher iq and can calculate lethal faster he would be in masters by now
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>>164795906
That's possible, he was taking forever with that turn.
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List your most regretted dusts
>animated Levi
>animated Lucifer
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>>164795623
suicide blood: 5/20 - 88698 open
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>>164795856
i played mostly ramp in this expansion, and forte has been just a dead weight, since she can't trade for shit and face is not really the place except batshitters.
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>>164795935
>TYRANT
>GOOD
hahahahahahah.........
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>164796003
Never dusted anything remotely regrettable. Only extras.
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>>164795768
Nah and never surrender

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM8tRdFaWS0

The night begins to shine
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>>164796003
>dusting the most powerful card in the game in animated form
What possessed you to do that?
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>>164796003
the only animated card i ever dusted was an animated beast dominator. No ragrets there.

I keep every animated card.
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>>164795768
cant make literally anything with this
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>>164796003
>dusting anything.
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>>164796003
2 Alexander
Pascale
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>>164795935
>Why the card that requires you to not use shadows in a class that revolves around using shadows is a bad choice?
>>
77719

>Concede pls
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>aggro bloods blow their loads then concede at turn 5/6
Best wins
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>>164795525
Selwyn's Command entire purpose is to evolve and hit your opponent for 4 damage so you can kill him at 16 HP on turn 7.
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>>164796128
>taking weeks to get to the decks you want to make
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>>164795935

One of Shadow's strengths is the ability to pack a bunch of win-cons into a single deck.

Face damage, lich-spam, Cerb+Howl, etc. all require very little in the way of gimping your deck; most of Shadow's combo pieces are still really good when used out of context

Atomeme and Tyrant are pretty demanding, and require more additions to the deck that do little else other than support them

Atomeme and Tyrant are just plain inefficient in a class that needs to streamline
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>>164796003
Nothing.
Only rarer thing I dusted that I didnt have 3 of that I dusted where Skullfane.
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>>164796064
>i'm too retarded to setup my wincon
Literally just do 5 damage and then swing for game, stall if you need to with the classes ward monsters and destruction reffects.
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>>164796131
are you me?

I also vialed an animated Lyria and then I opened 2 other animated ones, had I kept her I'd have a full set now
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I want to make a control deck, although I can't really decide between blood or shadow. Which is cheaper?
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>>164796003
Animated Koga Kunoichi
Only after some packs openings later after noticing I would have a complete set if I hadn't have liquefy none at all.
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>>164796168
Thanks anon!
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Should I be running Humpty Dumpty instead of Foul Tempest in Nephthys deck? Not being able to clear the board against aggro decks on turn 4 or 5 is really awkward.
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>>164796003
Thinking about dusting animated Jeanne. Will i regret it some day?
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>>164796306
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>that grea topdeck on motocgame's channel
what the fuck
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>>164796029
6/20 - 88698 open
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>>164796329
Lyrial? It's not like you gonna use them.
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>>164796393
>Control
>Cheap
Open that wallet up, fuccboi
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>>164796003
I dust every animated card that I have 3 normals versions of, for bronze and silver, and any non-staple gold/legendary card. I never regretted my dusts.
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>>164796095
Never post that abomination again
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>>164796513
for some reason i ran into a ton of shadowcraft players in masters who used her.
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someone is going to have a bad time
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>>164796587
I know it's not cheap, I didn't ask for a cheap one, just the cheaper of the two
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>>164796506
7/20 - 88698 open
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>>164796431
I personally like her art in the constructed deck way more, if that means anything to you.
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Hook an anon up with an aggro sword or meme banner sword list.
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>>164796003
dusted an animated charlotte? don't really regret it though.
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>>164796003
animated skullflame. not sure if i regret it.
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>>164796826
3 banners
3 maids
everything that has storm
everything that drops tokens
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>>164796003
I kinda miss my animated Beast Dominator but it's such a shitty card
>>
>>164796003
animated dire bond
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>>164796003
A playset of Maelstrom Dragon and Mushussu because I was dead set against using dragon at all back then, since I was a poorfag.
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>>164796003
I keep all animated waifus so no regrets
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>>164796003

animated erasmus
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>only derive enjoyment playing JO dragon in the new meta
thank you, /svg/.
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>>164797059
This man has correct priorities.
>>
>>164796953
Alwida is core too right?
>>
>go first
>win
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>>164797282
see "does it have storm"
>>
>enemy play a card
>lose

ahha nice game shadowbbs
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Why are the estimated damage values gone?
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wew
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>>164797117
>yfw JO dragon has a better wirnate than Discard
>>
77873

I need 13 more games (no concede) for the 100 gold mission. Help a brother out. I'll pass so you can get wins.
>>
>tfw every class got bullshit except Sword
>tfw Sword was the only true balanced class and the class is trash now because of the lack of buffs
inb4 "b-but Albert"
Dragon has had Genesis Dragon for ages and that didn't stop them from being shit
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My gs have a hair like Erika and i call her shadowbbs
She likes and giggle whenever i say it
>>
>>164797610

your esl is leaking
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>>164797570
>blitz
>albert
>ninja
>amelia

Is possible to start a discussion here without false flag?
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>>164797570
This.
All the Masters Sword players are switching because everything counters it now.
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Is the game trying to tell me something?
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I am in love with elves!
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>tfw lost 2k rank points trying to complete card pack daily
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>>164797570
They gave every other class except rune a way to efficiently board clear against a class that wants to play the board, then gave rune a deck that fields a better board on average than sword does just for shits and giggles.

Not sure what else they expected if their intent wasn't to dumpster the class.
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>>164797537
12 more, come thru.
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First it was Priest of the Cudgel, now it's Levi and Piercing Rune.
I don't think I've ever seen a little girl get bullied this hard by old men without it becoming porn.
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>>164797610
Your greatsword has a hair?
>>
How far can aggro blood take me? AA?
>>
>>164795935
it is a bad deck, only slightly more damage than phantom howl combo for way more shadows and you have to play garbage in your deck/
>>
>thread is suddenly full of BRs
>>
>>164797801
This gook manga is greato daze.
>>
>Five Angel Deck
>Again someone who doesnt have two legos

Does this game even have matchmaking?
>>
I'm the noob who drafted Bahamut

I also drafted Sahaquiel and I've used him to bring out Bahamut twice now!
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>>164797837
Piercing Rune is beyond stupid, I don't think the devs were sober when they came up with it
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>>164797801
Source?
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>>164797854
It can take you to top masters
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>>164797981
If it wasn't for the cost reduction from evolving I wouldn't hate it nearly as much.

As it stands now you can get 6 board damage, 2 face damage, and 3 damage wherever you want on turn 4 with only 2 cards.
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>>164797537
11 more boyos.
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Just got 2 Imperial Dragoons from my packs, can I build Disco Dragon without Forte or is she a necessity?
>>
Post an ambush sword decklist.
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>>164798183

nature's guidance
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>>164798195
Forte gives you a lot more burst so you don't have to constantly rely on chaining Dragoons.

You could probably use Eyfa as a budget replacement, though.
>>
suicide blood: 9/10 - 50358
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>>164797965
Thanks bloodbro
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>>164797117
What is a JO dragon list? I want to try it out
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>>164796826
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>>164797981
The card is basically a mini DoD for 1 cost. Even at 4 cost it's already strong honestly.
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>>164797529
nothing can stop a fully charge jo crystal
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>>164798284
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>>164797570
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>>164798071
>songname: dying inside
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>>164798284
This is the original and best.
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>>164798261
open 10/20
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>>164794812
Can't complain about 4-1, though I'm still waiting for a single 5-0.
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>>164797801
cant find it, sauce?
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I'm taking a week off this shit cause I'm sick of facing daria and dragon decks. I guess I'll focus on beating bloodborne or fallout 4.
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>>164798493
Thanks
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so it's pointless to use odin on fucking carrot?
jesus cuck
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>play Heaven
>don't draw a single Themis's
>lose

Nice class
>>
>>164797829
I agree with this sentiment, kinda.
I don't mind the clearing, but giving Rune the ability to put out more followers than any Sword deck is pretty fucked up. Sword ain't in a bad spot though, it will continue to be ok due to consistency alone.
>>164797876
How the fuck do you even know that?
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How's this look for aggro sword?
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>>164797801
please stop posting this manga, I get angry every time you make me remember it.
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>>164798581
>Sword
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>>164798581
>2 (two) Levis
Into the toilet it goes.
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>>164798629
bye bye Mr.Pareidolia

>>164797801
>>164798004
A World That I Rule
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Suggestions?
>>
>>164798629

See you tomorrow, faggot.
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>>164798731
I'd honestly replace Amelia with Blitz Lancers. That way you at least have 50/50 in pulling a banner with maid.
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>>164798731

>banner
>8 commanders
>>
>>164798714
Why i can't find the carrot?
>>
>>164798292
Thanks, i think i have everything except 3x Alwyda's.
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>>164798982
it's in the hand
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Would you let your daughter dress like this?
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>>164798939
Wait, I missed the princesses too. I dunno. I'll defer to somebody who has more experience with aggro sword.
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>>164798973
I can drop the banners and go pure commander if that'd be better.
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>>164799048
I wouldn't let her dress at all
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>>164798731
Drop the Amelias and Pompous Princesses. They dilute your Maid Leader search pool for too little benefit. Remove Vanguards as well. That card is for anti-aggro. Replace these with Ascetic Knights, Blitz Lancers, and Courageous Knights.
>>
>>164799048
Only at home.
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>>164799086
Drop the banners.
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All right. I need 10 more private matches. Let's do it.

75888
>>
>>164799048
as long as there were no niggers around
>>
le bahamut balanced xd
>>
34868

Please let me win. I enjoy playing so I don't mind doing the whole match, but I need to win please
>>
>>164799048
kill yourself disgusting pedophile
>>
>>164799168
He is fine in the big picture, he just preys on unrefined decks lower in the ladder.
>>
>>164799048
I would let my son
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>>164798493
>cocytus
>running a card that summons a follower

use execution so you can shit on ptp and for the mirror match
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>>164799331
Summoning a demon from hell to purify your crystal is completely in line with JO Wizards. Also, take a closer look at that artwork. That's right, Demonbro has his own JO crystal.
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Who the HELL is the sword nerd leader with the gold armor?
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What is safe to liquefy? Looking for an up to date seraph deck.
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>>164798493
what does this win with
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>>164799469
>those tender tiddies
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>>164799048
Only if she's a lesbian
>>
>>164799469
just some nerd with a dislocated jaw.
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How's your legendary collection coming along, /svg/?
>>
>>164799298
Except not really.
>>
I know you guys will hate it but...

2 pp Neutral Mammon
1 3
Your maximum deck size get more five(5) for each of this card in your deck.
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>getting frustrated in ranked
>buy some packs against my better judgement
>nothing but garbage

Just end me now; it hurts to live.
>>
>>164799498
pluto
zirnitra
fairy princess
maybe lotf and flute
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>>164799521
Unleashed JO energy.
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>>164797476
At least for me, it lags a lot.
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>>164799168
as a shadow main bahamut is my favorite card in the game. he tricks people into playing decks that have a 0% win rate against mine like ramp dragon
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I HAVE PERFECTED THE NEP DECK

YOU CAN STOP EXPERIMENTING

100% WIN RATE IN 5 GAMES

IT DOESN'T GET BETTER THAN THIS
>>
>>164799584

esl, leave
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>>164799559
I don't keep useless trash.
Inb4 Otohime memes
>>
>>164799498
Pascale (unless you want to meme), Fairy Princess, Pluto, Zirnitra, and maybe Flute.
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>>164799553
What a shame, he looked retarded so I guess that's why today was the first time I've ever seen anyone use him.
>>
>>164799565
On what basis is he not fine? The top decks in ranked don't run him aside from ramp dragon and the occasional tech for control decks.
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>>164799521
You need a iq higher than 800
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>>164799145

Nine more. Goooo bloodkin!

75888
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Requesting help for private daily. Onegai

ID: 94613
>>
>Fighting blood aggro as combo roach
>Fuck my combo going all in
>Load the board with 5 faeries and just go face every turn while bouncing May

Eat shit vampy
>>
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>fair and balanced
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>>164799565
>play 10 pp card
>it dies to a 5 pp card and you take 2 damage
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>>164799559
Pretty good considering I started playing last week
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>>164799559
probably need to start buying standard packs again
>>
>>164799048
Only for me
>>
>just entered D3
>immediately get seraph'd back down to d2
Bastard
>>
>>164799469
>>164799791
Can you source me senpai? Are there more pictures of this?
>>
>Trying Daria DShift
>Deck is just a worse Daria and a worse DShift
>Can't keep up with regular Daria and dies easily to Aggro Blood because it's still DShift
>Game-Ai places it at Tier 1
Why do I still trust those Tier lists?
>>
>>164799596
>>164799754

Any particular reason to maybe keep flute? Kept seeing it was crap during last expac.
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>>164800215
>a worse DShift
gitgud
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Buy RoB packs, or wait to splurge in the inevitable T2 RoB event in ~2 months?
>>
>>164800038
>Otohime died for this
>>
Need one quick concede
Id : 47336
>>
>>164800274
What are the events in this game?
>>
>>164800274
what is t2 rob event?
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>>164800196
Was on Twitter a bit after comiket, forgot the account name, if you're determined enough you might find it on #C91コスプレ
>>
>>164796003
Liquefied an animated Forte to build Spellboost followers since I knew I wouldn't be able to build dragoncraft without 2 sets of legends and I had multiple animated legends to easily have enough to make a complete daria deck. Worst part is I had gotten several other rerolls with daria and I think at least one with two before I decided I wanted to build that deck.
>>
>>164800054
>play 10 pp card
>opponent doesnt have that exact card in hand
>win
>>
Seprah is really stupid, you instantly win the next turn after playing it.

There's so much stupid shit in this game
>>
>>164800395
>>164800437
T2 gave DE packs for a bit about a month before RoB release.
>>
>>164800512
>play 10pp card
>it does nothing to morde and can't attack
>>
>>164800529
that's why you smack them around so hard they'll lose if they take a turn out to drop it
>>
Albert leader skin fucking when
>>
>>164800265
Ellaborate. I keep playing this and no matter how I look at it, it does what DShift does worse and it does what Daria does worse. Yeah, you can actually play the game before you dropping your combo, unlike regular DShift, but you don't have nearly as much removal, which is what I mean by it being a worse DShift. I don't understand how this is supposed to be Tier 1.
>>
>>164800529
When Seraph's on the field all enemy followers should gain storm
>>
>>164800529
At least this game is better than rngstone
>>
>>164799927

MORE FIGHTS! BLOOD FOR THE BLOODKIN!

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL WIDOWS!

38673
>>
>>164800274
Wait if you're new, can do well in arena and is still building your collection as well. Otherwise it's completely up to you.
>>164800395
>>164800437
Right after RoB came out arena was giving out DE packs instead of standard as a reward.
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>>164800451
Actually nevermind determined it's easy just using #C91コスプレ and #シャドウバース together. Outfit looks really nice.
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>>164800627
So if I don't happen to play a fucking aggro/face deck I lose.

That's ridiculous
>>
>>164800529
>surviving to turn 9 against OTK roach
>>
>>164800706
Hardly an achievement
>>
>>164800529
if your playing a control deck you should have odin
if you're playing an aggro deck they should be dead
>>
>>164800115
If they make more 2-3 cost ramp or any good 4-drop ramp follower, it could be a thing. Chances are, Flute will never be relevant because Cygames hates ramp like the plague and only gave it a decent Take 2 card. You can somewhat safely liquefy it, but there is always the possibility that it could become relevant with a later expansion.
>>
>>164800215
They're eating up the hype. A lot of people are already noticing that Daria is T2 at best.
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>>164800816
noice
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>>164800215
game-ai is shit
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>>164800940
Meant to quote >>164800236
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>>164799559
I wish I could use more than a fucking handful of all these.
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>>164798789
what the fuck did you just made me read
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>>164800529
For the last time, Odin. He's also useful for Mordecai now that Shadow has relevant non-aggro decks.
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>>164799596
>>164799754
You don't use princess to recharge after you blew your combo load?
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>>164800990
I am not talking about "pure" Daria though
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>>164800591
>not using odin so your bahamut can attack
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>>164801127
You don't like my perfect world?
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>>164801163
>they played urd
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>>164801017
Waifutip add ":orig" at the end of the url of any image on Twitter
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>whenever I play anything other than pure aggro, I go up against boring as fuck stall control shadow and haven decks
>whenever I switch to rune to punish people for wasting 30+ minutes of my time, I go up against pure aggro

I can think of no deck more obnoxious than Nep Shadow and the Eidolon ward Haven. I win most of the time against these, but it is never fun and it takes forever.
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>>164800990
He's talking about Daria d-shift being bad. Daria's still broken as fuck otherwise it wouldn't have a near 70% WR going second with its Levi evolves and piercing runes.
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>>164800529
they spend a WHOLE turn dropping Seraph.

If you can't win in one turn, you should at least be able to Odin or transform it away.
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LOOK HOW THICK THOSE THIGHS ARE

JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY
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>>164801205
I was happy watching boobies and food

but then I saw

and Oh what I saw


I'm going back to play shadow to relieve the pain
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>>164801413
>Waifutip
End yourself.
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>>164801059

Thanks for your input. Since its animated, I'll probably liquefy it for the time being.
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>>164801491
That's not how it works. Seraph decks will always try to keep your board clean before dropping Seraph. Unless you have Odin or Petrify, you should not be trying to counter Seraph after it is on board, you should've already been preparing for it since you've realized they are not playing Storm Haven.
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>>164801560
>tfw sword is so irrelevant people forgot about it completely
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>>164801556
What's she thinking about, /svg/?
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>>164801589
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>>164801560
>shadow below dragon
Nep decks have boosted it, move them up.
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Grea is strong!
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>>164801448
Haven bullies Shadow and is considered anti-fun, but Shadow is really high in the "anti-fun" ladder for sure.

I'm not glad they're relevant and popular. I prefer Daria to Haven/Shadow.
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>>164801560
>rune not #1
>dshift
>daria
>dirt
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Why is she so smug? I want her to step on my dick.
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>>164801740
Dirt isn't cancerous. Take that back
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>>164801146
Fairy Princess has the hidden cost of 7 because you need to play a Fairy or waste a draw. So that's one card you lose in a combo and one turn you have to wait to play her. Fairy Princess could be good for hand mechanics cards like Silver Bolt and Master of Canopies, but a 7-drop 4/4 for that? If she had the additional effect of making one fairy cost 0 or filling up your hand to 8 should would have been decent.
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>>164801646
how happy she is she ruined the game.

>deck is composed entirely of rng gimmicks and removal spells
>not even remotely fun to pilot or play against
>both players will have a near full hand the whole turn because absolutely nothing can actually be done
>it just further encourages and justifies the meta always being about burst damage

Nep Shadow is why we can't have a control meta in this game. It would be unbearable.
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>>164801560
Swap Rune/Forest and Shadow/Dragon.
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>>164801560
>forest is now the least played craft in the game since all the bandwagoners jumped to blood and rune
>"cancer"

i don't think you know what that word means

>>164801740
Dirt is anti-fun as fuck but it's not cancerous.
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>>164801645
I will never forget these otohimes,sabers and alberts,florals and amelias.
Sword always sneak behind t1 and win every expansion
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>>164801560
>Using Rowen for dragoncraft
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>>164801369
>but you discounted your odin and played two
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This is my Daria deck I'm making. It's almost done but I'm short on Levi's, Clark's, and one Daria. What can I include to replace the 4 extra cards?
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>>164801962
>every expansion
>only 2 so far
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>my favorite nico stream sword player now plays daria rune

Is there any hope left for sword?
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Question, just started the game
The faq says you need to use an emulator then link for optimal rerolls, does that mean that if I already have my own account on steam I fucked up?
Also, I like forescraft fairies, not the elves, just the fairies, what should I aim for if I want to use them?
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>>164802014
levis and at least one clark
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>>164801802

It's pretty grindy.

I'm not going call it cancer, but I'm not going to correct other people for doing so.

>>164802003

Begone dork, you don't even have wizard skills.
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>>164801940
>Months of bullshit suddenly don't count

This is taking the entire game's history into account.

You're not off the hook yet forestshitter
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>>164802040
only 2 and is already 100% of winrate.
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>>164802003
>not using Punished Sugita
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What's a good starting hand when playing daria?
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>>164802003
go away dork you're irrelevant
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>>164801846
>control meta
GLORY B- I mean that might be fun
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>>164801846
I remember when /svg/ was like nepnep is trash lmao.

I knew Nep would wreck this meta and be T2-tier good, and would be annoying as shit to play against.
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>>164801735
I'd take Daria any day. Far more straight forward and at least the matches are interesting/exciting (nothing beats actually winning against Daria as control).

The current Shadow deck doesn't do anything. It just stalls. Almost the entirety of its deck is just Nep pulling followers or removal spells. You can never create a board against them so you just sit around.

I use Control Blood and usually win the matchup because I spend the whole game cycling and just direct applying burn spells and Mary combos. It's not fun and it is completely luck based on both sides. I can't stand it and it brings to attention cards I always hated, like Urd who I thought is far too good stat wise to justify what she can do (especially since she can essentially de-evolve enemies) or Foul Tempest which imo is completely broken as a removal spell and was only tolerated because of how unreliable Shadow is.

Shadow will always be the worst class in design. It's awful. Until Nep the only thing the class did was storm combos with Cerb. Now all it does is stall until Nep and hope RNGesus guides their path
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>>164802014
Levi isn't optional.

He's even more mandatory than Daria is.
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>>164801560
Let me fix that for you.
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>>164801560
>sword not even present

This is accurate.
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>>164802132
say that to all the maids getting slaughtered right now
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>>164802045
you can overwrite the steam file but now rea roll
>forescraft
Just make a OTK roach roll for Ancient Elfs,Tias,Roachs,Will of the forest and Cynthia and Liza
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How's good old Tempo Elf doing nowadays? That OTK goblin roach shit or the wolf silver bolt isn't working out for me with all these darias and shadow faggots around.
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>>164802014
Without levi you're lacking 9 free face damage if second, 6 if first.

Think about it.
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>>164802185
Shadow is trash though. It is going to lose to all aggro and combo decks.

Against midrange and control it just stalls them out and prays to win. It is an awful deck and a perfect example of the worst kind of deck: grind out control decks. This is like playing Control Warrior in Hearthstone where their only goal is to outlive you. I can't believe people actually sit and defend that kind of playstyle.

It's making me not want to do anything, but play something like Aggro Blood or Daria. Control Shadow being in the mix has probably tripled or more the time it takes me to climb in ranked. Not because I'm losing, but because it takes so long to complete games.
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>>164801556
Also breasts
Also dem hips
Nep is stacked
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>>164802141
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>>164802129
More like

1. Rune
2. Forest
3. Blood
4. Haven
5. Shadow
6. Dragon
7. Sword
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>>164801560
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>>164801697
>keen enchantment
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>>164801556
too bad about that butter face
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It makes me sad Disaster Witch ended up not being in Aggro Rune decks. When I first saw some of the cards they were adding I was excited as fuck to try Aggro Rune, and Disaster Witch was part of that dream.

>Levi and Disaster clearing the board while shooting fireballs down your throat
>piercing runes into space
>oglers up your anus

It was a dream, but it never came true.
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This game is great, why didn't I play it sooner?
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>>164802536
accurate
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>>164802129
t. Neptumor
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>>164802536
this
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>>164802141
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>>164802638
>implying nepdecks aren't the most honest decks out there
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>>164802340

Maybe I should have uploaded an image with my post.
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>>164802638
I never have issues with Nep decks so that's fine with me
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>>164802615
It's cool how all ungacrafts get t2ed and complain about Vampy.
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>>164802425

I want Nerfie to leave
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>>164802425
It's just like Control Warrior, yeah.

I saw im_deception deck himself vs a control blood. At least the deck can't win a "fatigue" war with all the draws and thinning it has.

No wonder I hate this deck. At least Armor Up isn't a thing, but I guess Khawy is a concentrated amount of Armor Up in a single card.
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>>164802598
I've seen her as a one-of in some lists
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So I was thinking, couldn't sunlight satan make a comeback with this meta?

It's got the best earlygame wards and midgame heals + removal to not have a super terrible matchup against aggro bats.

Themsis and Lion Spirit would let it have its way with Daria rune.

It'd be running odins to make seraph not an autolose, so with that + cudgel & co should make it fine against nepnep.

The 10000 wards would give it a decent shot at surviving the roaching.

Sure it'd have a bad time against ramp dragon, control blood, and obviously dshift, but at least from an armchair perspective, it seems like it could be a decent deck right now.
>>
24215

20 match achievement
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How does face dragon even fare now? Seems like most deck have removals so your "can't be attacked" is useless.
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>>164789280
>3.Vampy only get 1/1 on evo.
Sure if Levi gets 1/1 on evo and his spell does 2 damage.
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>>164802724
>nepdicks most honest
>not dragondong
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>>164802425
People like playing to not lose instead of playing to win, it's why people actually think 20 turn games are a good idea.
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>>164802395
While these are probably mediocre alternatives, what about Sammy or Scholarly Witch? Both give card advantage at least, and will likely draw spells.
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>>164802141
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>>164802757
It's doing just fine with some adjustments but you would know that if you had the balls to take your head out of your ass and try it out.
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>>164802683
What a clusterfuck. Why the fuck are you playing so much shitty removal? You literally are banking on on drawing 6 cards out of 40, or you're dead by turn 4, because you no fucking early game at all.
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I fucking bahamut so goddamn much. I'm honestly going to just stop playing this shit game.
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>>164802834
>>164802425

>hearthstone refugees think they have a voice in matters

Git
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in terms of pure different deck usage are Bahamut and Odin the most valuable cards?
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>beating aggro as control blood

There is no better feeling in this game than the satisfaction of forcing an Aggro Blood or Daria player to just straightup concede, particularly as a deck that will have you sitting near their lethal range the whole game.
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>>164802141
I need more space.
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Reminder Shadow users had to deal with being hands down worst deck for a very long time, if Nep is mildly annoying to make up for it that's fine with me.
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>>164803038
No, there is one thing better

and that's outaggroing an aggro deck as control blood.
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So the thread is full /hsg/ cry babies?

>wah wah the games are long
>wah wah the games are so aggro
>wah wah my class is not op and roll over eerythin on curve
>wah wah there's a win card
>wah wah the win card is contered
>wah wah themis
>wah wah kawai
>wah wah rng
>wah wah not rng
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>>164802834
Khawy is almost as obnoxious and terribly designed as armor up though. Control Shadow is the other gatekeeper of control. Dshift prevents you from playing control and Control Shadow prevents you from playing any deck that relies on non token followers.

It's inherent terrible design that forces a highly restrictive meta. There's no way this meta is going to evolve beyond Aggro Blood and Daria, with Control Blood thrown in as a tech deck.
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Someone please send the absolutely cheapest haven deck I can aim for with the Moon I rolled.
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>>164802979

What adjustments? Is there anything different besides the staple AE, Tia and Cynthias?
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>>164803236
Storm Haven is your new deck my friend.
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>>164803026
5pp remove 2 damage face
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>>164802141
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When opening my packs, should I open them all at once, one at a time or does it not matter?
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>>164802425
This sounds more like you're mad because you fall into all of shadow's plays.

I've been doing a ton of ramp dragon, and that has a really fucking bad time with nep shadow. But it is also one of the most fun matchups in the game.
Because every resource you have is precious, you have to outplay your opponent to win. It makes those long, grindy matches incredibly satisfying because if it always ends when someone just outplays the other person.
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>>164802141
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>>164803032
No viable deck to date list uses Odin consistently. Too early to say for Bahamut, but only ramp Dragon uses it as a better Fafnir.

Neutrals are still just class cards in disguise for the most part Angelic Snipe (Rune) Feena(Forest) Altered Fate/PtP (Rune/Forest) aside from very generic cards like Unico/dingdong/Angelic Barrage. Which applies to Bahamut which might as well have been Dragon.
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>>164803128
My favorite thing to do is to slap down a Bloody Mary without following her up at all. I love the confusion is causes.

>they dance of death her
>I get a free turn
or
>they go face and ignore her
>I immediately burst them down to zero

I can't believe some Control Blood decklists don't run three of her. Having an expendable Mary is the best feeling in the world.
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Neato
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>>164802562
Holy shit the memes
The best part is, I was able to kill him without removing his Ediolon
Also Ediolon destroyes PTP
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>>164803306
It probably shouldn't matter. If you're able to open multiple might as well open them all at once
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>>164792060
>they literally throw up alberts and darias and everything in that set is useful af.
>open 15 packs
>get 8 Angel of Word
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wen u r havin bad game just rember happy gam
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>>164803214
>>164802834
>>164802425
Npe is insanely easy to brick itself.

If the guy draws both kwawny and mords, he's really fucked himself and made Nep basically pointless
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>>164803028
I started playing since the beginning of DE. Does that make me a HS refugee?

>>164803214
Well, I don't think we'll see as much Nep Shadow as we could see Dshift pre-RoB.
As long as it has enough bad match-ups, isn't too popular, it should be fine.
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>>164803281
What is the strategy with these storm decks you speak of?
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>>164802818
Nigga I play Eidolon Seraph

>>164803236
Storm Haven
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>>164802562
>>164803389
Didn't mean to quote
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>>164803287
>implying I ever have removal in my hand when I need it
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>>164803316
Except I consistently outplay them. As Control Blood I just chill with my socks off and wait to burst them down with unavoidable damage.

But it's not fun. Virtually all my followers become useless because they just instant die to overly inexpensive removal spells or overstatted RNG based cards. If a follower lives, it just gives Khawy value that makes it harder to burst them down.

You are consistently punished for trying to develop a board. It isn't fun. Half the deck becomes worthless.

But it also shows how terrible their deck design is. In a game heavy on combos, it does an awful job dealing with it. It is also a deck that really kills the whole point of the evolve mechanic in this game.
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>>164803403
That'll make rerolling a lot faster.
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>but now rea roll
Anon are you ok? That just kills any sense that sentence may ever have

>Ancient Elfs,Roachs
Understandable if I want to redraw fairies, and make use of them
>Tias, will of the forest, liza
Knife eared pieces of shit
>Cynthia
Wouldnt petal fencers be better if I want to put up loads of fairies?

Also about those 0 mana fairies I keep reading about, can you only do that through the cards that draw fairies with 0 cost or you can change a hand full of fairies to 0 cost somehow?
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>>164803493
This game is well know as removalverse
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>>164803347
Or for the multi turn mary combos when you have all this burn but not enough pp to spend it all at once.

Drop a mary + something
they panic and try to remove it
Repeat the next turn.
Feels so good.

I've actually teched a few things like wraith for early dmg + cheap mary fodder.
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>>164802042

it's called tech cards

I love how this expansion exposed all shitters and net decking scum, if you liked sword you would adapt to your surroundings and work against popular decks, instead all you do is bitch and moan like kids, you never deserved Erika's love, you are worse than elves.
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Is eidolon of madness any good? Willing to keep it if it's staple to haven but otherwise my sword deck is desperate for the vials
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>>164803417

Drawing Mordes suck, yea, but they can just slap down the Khawny just fine. Then still impact the board with NepNep via Corpse.
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>>164803498
>People talking about the game while comparing it to other card games
>HURR DURR THEY MENTIONED HS RRREEEEEEE
Fuck off, people are trying to have an actual discussion of the game. Not even unga posters are as cancerous as you.
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So why does Control Sword exist again? It doesn't really do anything.
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>>164803417
Indeed, but you don't know that until twenty turns later. It is a heavily RNG based deck, but it forces the opponent to sit around waiting forever. It's not like Dshift for example where if they brick themselves, you know it because you fucked them up by turn seven and they are dead.

>play a follower
>their deck is composed almost solely of cheap removal
>keep removing your threats
>repeat forever
>always punished if you evolve
>eventually they have no more threats
>they just concede

Every time. Thanks for wasting my time.
>>
24215

if you need achievement cum inside
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>>164803540

>all of my followers die to rng

then it isn't fucking rng, is it?

holy fucking hell if you have three dudes and he pops lurching with necro, then evolves into the survivor, are you going to scream rng?
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>>164803437
Pop amulets, use urd/garuda combos, quickly kill the opponent.
Actually the stratergy varies vs who you're playing. If you're facing aggro decks they'll almost always outaggro you. You should switch to playing control and try to wear them down. You'll still be able to consistently deal tons of damage late game, while they'll either have no cards or struggle to do anything with the cards they have.
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>>164803650
Good in pure Seraph with the 1 mana ward rabbit amulet.
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>>164803650
It's a lot of fun to play, but a little on the slow side.
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Just drew triple daria for my mulligan. Instant conceded. 40 cards and this shit happens way too frequently.
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>>164803498
>they all know about THIS game I hate, FUCK OFF
calm down anon
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[card name] is too strong, it should [be weaker so I can win] instead
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>>164803619
shit, meant to quote >>164802329
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>>164803765
>are you going to scream rng?
Yes, if I don't win it's rng.
When I do win it's pure skill.
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>>164799559
What packs should i open? Pretty much just have control sword, thinking about ramp dragon.
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>>164803650
It's alright. There are probably other things you shoud vial before it.
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>>164803650
He enables a really silly style of play that can be frustrating for certain deck styles. You basically have near perma wards on your side and can stall out the match while constantly healing and looking for Seraph. It is great against decks that rely on followers as their win condition
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>>164803790
>draw all 3 darias within 4 turns
Or
>dont draw daria at all in the first 8 turns even while spamming card draw

Story of my life while playing my daria deck
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>>164803619

>wouldn't petal fencers be better

ohhoho god no they wouldn't. I get your thinking, they'd be more difficult to trade into right? The problem is that you'd have to play the fencer, then hope it doesn't die if you play it on curve, or hold multiple faeries to play alongside, just so you can put a bunch of 2/2s on the board that don't impact the board, which aggro shadow does, much earlier and in a gamestate where it matters.
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>>164803246
About the same stuff, except it runs Feena and Goblin Mage without dropping Lizas and Fairy Whisperers completely.
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>>164803873
I'm not going insane, right?

This retard >>164803756 keeps saying how an RNG-based class is clearing his board

nigger, this isn't HS, effects don't go face and fizzle
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>>164803790
WITH A BANG
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>>164803765
Whether or not Nep is impactful is dependent on what they drew before hand.

And yes Corpse killing things is RNG and retarded as fuck. You only get value out of tokens. Token spam was the problem with DE so they designed a deck forcing us back to sticking to token spamming, which is what the best decks in this game do even now.
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>>164803650
It's really good in Pure Seraph alongside the removal-oriented amulets and Dream Rabbits.
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>>164792085
give me your deck list please
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>>164803540
Not really. You have Yurius who just flat out stops nepnep turns from happening. Queen vamp is great because outside of foul tempest, they don't have a good way of dealing with that shit.

What on earth do you have that gives Khawy value? Blood doesn't run fatties, Khawy cannot really suicide into anyone and heal for more than a 1dmg bat token.
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>>164803895
>Sahaquiel and Bahamut
Go for it my man. Pic related is my list. I'm thinking about making a couple of Odins to tech against Mordy, but I don't match too frequently against it right now to justify crafting them. Maybe now that I'm in A0 I'll start facing more of that shit and Elana/Seraph though, so who knows.
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If sword is so trash, why it's always on top of T2?
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>>164802141
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>concede witch player
>run 9 banish and can tech in even more if I feel like it
>never have to worry when playing against shadow
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Need a win for my daily please

19917
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How to spot the /hsg/ refuge
They still think that SV board have 7 spaces and there's something called "develop and contest board".
When a card is hard to deal they say "is clearly bad designed".
When a card does not help the epic combos like d-shift because they love waste time of someone "is aggro shit".
When grinder battles are too hard for them they call it "coin flip".
When they can't roll with the epic combo "frustation" is the key word.


There are more but RNG is also a grand part of the speech.
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>>164804218
a) there are no established new rankings in t2
b) sword is good there because it has little synergy between cards and most of them are good value by themselves so in a draft format they outshine combo/synergy heavy other decks
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>>164804228

post wards and qts I'm intrigued
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>>164804039
>design an overstatted and overpowered removal cards
>make their effect RNG to try to compensate
>make it controllable enough that you almost always get the exact target you want

That's terrible card design. Necroassassin is a 4pp 3/3 "kill the exact enemy follower you want and proc the last word of an ally follower" in most situations. That's terrible design. That's even more broken than Siegfried, but the devs justify it by tacking on an RNG effect to it, which makes it shit against aggro but ridiculous against everything else.

And Nep herself is RNG. What happens on turn eight is completely RNG if you do it against someone who had two or more followers up.
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>>164804217
>Baha Blast Ramp
>no Wyvern Cavaliers

Not saying that's a bad idea, but what's the reasoning behind this?
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>>164803775
>>164803768
Pulled an animated one and am sitting at about 1200 vials. Was considering liquifying it if it's not necessary to haven. I think I could put together blood aggro with it, but was also considering crafting another legendary for sword. I have 3 Aurelias and an Otohime, and was wondering if I should prioritize Otohimes or craft the one tsubaki or an Albert. Bought the 1 deck with the new years crystals and was considering dropping for the other 2 sword decks.
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Which deck can I play?
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>>164804294
>and there's something called "develop and contest board".
How to spot the D rank shitter.
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>>164804397
Vial your fourth neptits
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>>164802141
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>>164804315
Literally your average control list.
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>>164804397
Run Neutralcraft with Sahaquiel, Odin, Olivia, and Bahamut.
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>have lethal
>tell myself I have lethal
>decide to forget everything I just told myself and end turn
>realize that I forgot I had lethal
>end up losing and going on a losing streak vs perfect curves
WAKE ME UP
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>>164804159
Queen Vamp is terrible because Shadow can remove her 4/4 body and foul tempest anytime. You can't say "outside tempest" when describing one of the main cards they use it on.

Yurius is shit in the matchup. Their removal all does big damage or instant kills. They don't care about playing on curve against you so they'll just wait another turn.

Khawy stops you from achieving anything, punishes you for ever having followers up, and slows the game down.

I'm not even saying the matchup is bad. I'm saying literally all you can do in the Control Blood vs Control Shadow matchup is sit around waiting to draw burn for Mary combos. It's boring as fuck and most turns will probably be both sides passing.
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Is it bullying when you manage to banish 2 crystals in a row?
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>>164804397
Craft another Daria
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>>164804482
Kill yourself
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>>164804332
No space for the card with the way I built the deck. As a matter of fact I actually don't like it too much.
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>>164803858
Just mistyped some things.
But you are doing what evey newplayer want to do i tried to do it too :( .

These things simplely are too slow and brick too hard unfornately.
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>>164804550

You monster.
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>>164804550
Dude how is he gonna jack off
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>>164804550
Scum like you should be in jail
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>it's another daria player clearing board, summoning followers and dealing face damage all in one turn episode
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anyone got the most optimized dshift list with the new cards? i'm guessing piercing rune is now ran
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>>164803437
Play a lot of spells that draw cards and make mana, then cast grapeshot
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>>164804550
it's blueballing
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>>164777745
what should I spend my rupees on as a new player
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>keep kaleidoscoping this shadowcuck's lurching corpse 3 times in fact
>he lurching corpes into necroassassin
>instead of killing my flamewaker or daria it kills my golem and sugoi mahou
>instant concede
Literally RNGcraft
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>>164804487

>only 1 baki-chan
>no odins

dangerous game desu
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>>164804436

not him, but SV seems to take after YGO more than MtG and HS in how quickly boards fill and empty

how often to followers live longer than one turn? not very

Granted, that doesn't mean you're wrong, you aren't; it's just that SV has a very different way of manifesting board control than other CCGs
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>>164804498
Which leader is the best for neutral?
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>>164804789
Standard. Alternatively RoB if you want to play Aggro Rune.
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>>164804509
Except that forcing a tempest or them to not nep that turn plays into your entire strategy of stall them for the mary combo.

Khawy is easy as piss to deal with because it can't really suicide into any of your followers, thus almost always requiring a 2 turn play, meaning it's free time for you, thus leading to your wins.
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>All these hags mad that Luna is meta
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>>164804843

erika since her craft is buried
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I can safely vial my two Skullfanes in order to craft triple Death's Breath for my Nep deck, right? I was considering taking out the Soul Hunts and a Deathbrand for them. Is there anything else that /svg/ would recommend changing?
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>Unpacked three Mary's
Oh boy. What blood dick can I make with them?
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>>164804890
Luna with glasses is even cuter.
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>>164804943
Hell no. Don't vial any legendary. Make those vials some other way.
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>>164804789
Vampy but for new players.

>do all the stories
>beat all the ai elite (1400g)
>go to arena and get tickets
>try to do the dailies
See your collection and buy what you need.
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>>164804962
>tfw imagining painting those lenses with my thick seed.
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>>164804803
Only versus other control decks, if I ever stop getting matched versus Daria and Bats in four out of five games I will take Alwidas out for more removal.
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>>164804943
>skullfane
Yes pure shit liquefy it
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Haha I think a Runefag just tried to trick me into conceding a match.
>Their turn, they have 5 AP
>I have a single life point left
>They kept using "Sorry" and "You're finished!" between long pauses
>I just waited
>They ended their turn then left
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>>164804943
Yea. Unless they make some crazy buff like making him a 5-drop, there's no reason to run him and there has been no precedent for a card getting buffed like that.
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>>164804886
CAN YOU READ I'M LITERALLY SAYING IT IS A GOOD MATCHUP BUT BORING AS FUCK

WHy the fuck would I be happy that my followers and removal are all worthless and that the only thing doing anything in the matchup achieves is giving me more time to draw combos? Why wouldn't I just play Dshift or Seraph then?

It kills the fun of playing the deck or any deck with cool followers.

>put down a last word follower and end turn
>opponent now must remove it first and whatever it spawns as the only alternative is them summoning a 3/3 and destroying your follower for free regardless of its stats
>or them drawing two cards and destroying your follower for free
>or them summoning a 3/3, destroying your follower, and summoning a copy of the last word

It's bullshit. I want to concede every time I see Shadow now because it's not worth the win. I can't believe people can sit around for twenty minutes waiting for someone to kill themself.
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>Want to play Control Blood cause it's fun
>Only get matched against ram dragon

dear god, what did I do to deserve such a cruel fate?
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>>164804837
I agree 100% with you my man. The game's take on board presence and board control is pretty different from the experience I'm used to.
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Anyone wanna help me with the private match challenge for the gold?
ID: 98767
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>>164804330
>but the devs justify it by tacking on an RNG effect to it, which makes it shit against aggro but ridiculous against everything else.
I know that nobody is going to care since it's a meme deck but it being a random effect completely fucks over ambush sword. I'm honestly pretty frustrated since before this was a meme I enjoyed playing but now it's borderline unplayable. There's just no way to win the shadow matchup now, it's completely impossible. Pic related is the only time I've ever won it since the expansion hit, and he had wasted his necroassassin for no reason.

I'm sure the reason cygames only made one ninja related card this time compared to the previous expansion was because they already knew they were killing the deck anyway, so why bother. Sorry, just wanted to vent.
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>>164804358
Albert is the new Otohime, he's played in literally every list and deck type. Otohime was never played in aggro/banner type decks.

But, you might not wanna craft more than 1 or 2, unless you have no intention of opening more Bahamut packs. Seiba and Albert are the only core legendaries for Sword now, he rest are complementary, Otohime dropped down to Tsubaki tier, which is great, but can live without, unless the deck is built around her.
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>>164804962
She looks so mature now!
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>>164789280
>trying to remove the card thats keeping Forest and Swordcucks in check
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>>164805278
It kills a lot of things. I really want to just play Dshift against them to make their life as miserable as possible, but literally every time I queue as Dshift I go up against pure aggro. Otherwise it is sometimes five+ shadows in a row all playing their shitty deck.
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>>164793574
thread wars are a silly thing, imo

so, somebody from domg went to svg and insulted us for using vampy as the original pic, claiming vampy as theirs. i have no idea what domg is but somebody promised to put domg to the next op and i guess did it. it should be removed
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>>164804550
>>164804667
>>164804668
>>164804701
>>164804761
Almost forgot the vid: https://my.mixtape.moe/jujszk.mp4
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>>164789280
>4. Remove Daria shitters like you from matchmaking
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>>164803409
Fuck off it took me two hours to win 7 games
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>>164805375
>Dshift
Khawy and Death's Breath fuck them pretty hard
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>>164805493
aggro bat isn't even a bad matchup for daria
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Is there some secret limit to Nep?
I NEVER get more than one mord with her effect
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>>164805541
Read her effect CAREFULLY.
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>>164805541
Followers of DIFFERENT costs anon.
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>>164805469
This is disgusting.
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>>164805234
Control Blood is pure shit against everything other than aggro Blood. Auto loss against Seraph, D.Shift, PtP, ramp Dragon, aggro/midrange/control Shadow. The deck is too Mary combo dependent to close out games, too Rev/Devil dependent to survive early game aggro/flood. A deck that boils down to draw specific card or lose in every game is not a good deck.

Blood's early game is fantastic, it doesn't need anymore. What's lacking is value and reliable survivability. The deck has no good ward, no good draw, and conditional heal/removal.
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I hate the balance in this game
>Lol this deck is mostly shit so its okay to give them one or two absolutely bullshit broken cards

JUST BALANCE THEM YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES
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>>164805541
>secret
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>>164805541
This is your average Shadow player now.
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@164805201
>not worth the win
Not worth the (you)
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>>164805520
I think you misspelled Phantom Howl and Cerberus.
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>>164805541
>t.hearthstone player
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>>164805645
>Devil
Nobody's running that shit anymore, wardrobe is the new hotness for 4pp followers.
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>>164805708
Take me back to the DE days when we weren't the hot new meme.
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14320

pls help with achievement
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>>164805196
Were those two Forest cards the only time cards have been directly nerfed or buffed in this game? I just started a month ago.
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>>164805595
>>164805597
>>164805693
>>164805708
>>164805780
Beaned! :^)
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Dragon buffs when
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>>164802141
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>>164805756
Well yes, aggro Shadow poops on them, but that's a given
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>>164805884
retard
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>>164805884
>it was merely a jest
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>>164805605
To be fair, the deck was not even close to JO crystal. It was more of a weird dragon ramp deck with crystals and a flute. So technically, you could say I was smiting the heretic.
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>>164805857
I believe Homecoming and Harvest Festival were the only nerfs/card changes since closed beta, yes.
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pleasse /hsg/ leave
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>>164804945
Control blood. Enjoy your few favorable match ups and losing to the rest.
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>>164805884
YOU TRICKED ME
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>Everyone cries about daria
>Try it out
>Face nothing but hard daria counters
Is /svg/ truly this shit that they can't counter this deck?
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>>164805829


14320

7/20
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>>164806095
>>164806095
>>164806095
New thread.
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Everyone is complaining about the meta because is too complicated to prevent the matches and you need not unga?
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>>164806051
but hearthstone is dead and /hsg/ dead. I don't wanna go back to that shit game
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>>164805645
Control Blood actually feels pretty strong. I thought it was just a meme, but I've been seeing plenty of success with it.

Does well against Aggro Blood, can do well against Daria, does well against Sword, does well against Shadow

The thing is that while the lack of good wards and healing does suck, those things don't actually help it in the matchups it suffers against. It does well against aggro with its only weakness being that Dire Bond is almost unplayable depending on how the match is going. But against midrange or control it starts to suffer in the value department because its followers are weak.

The benefit of Mary combos compared to other combos (like Seraph) is reliability. Mary combos with many many cards in the deck and while some lead to small damage, a lot lead to great results. For example, you run three Marys. If the first one dies after a blood pact, it was still doing two damage to their face and drawing two cards. Considering you have tons of burn damage in your deck, that damage does add up.

It's not like Seraph where you never really expect to win through means other than forcing them to concede or instant winning. I very reliably kill with Temptress on curve because I've been doing bits of damage the whole game.

This also means the Haven matchup feels completely unwinnable. I almost NEVER win against Haven as Control Blood no matter what deck variant they are running. Amulets really hurt Revelation's value and the constant healing means you can't race them to Seraph and expect to win.

Also Control Blood does well against Earth Rune for similar reasons to Control Shadow. Those decks stall way too long and are full of Priest-tier answers to the opponent, so when you don't play followers and just focus on burning their face

I almost always win against Nep by ignoring Nep. They throw Nep down? I just play Mary and start going face, or Temptress. They cant kill me and are forced to trade. rinse and repeat.
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>>164806215
Can you repeat that in English?
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>>164804996
How do you beat the elite difficulty? Im struggling on ch6 in story mode.
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>>164804332
cavaliers are shit
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>>164806358
if you are serious.
just git gud.
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>>164806358

upgrade your decks with those cards you're getting
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I've made it to C0 using only my homebrew Aggro Haven, I'm gonna make it lads
I have a fully functional Seraph deck waiting in the wings for when the gods impossible
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Friend of mine's looking to start with tempo craft; what's a bare minimum roll? I was thinking 1-2 daria and an animated legend and like 2 levi?
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>>164811998
>Having two special fortes.
Fucking faggot
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