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Just A Plain Doll edition

Nightmare Slaughtered: >>164646112

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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>>164713821
I think the 'Straight Outta Insight' thread has broader appeal but there's something about this image of the doll that I really love

I also do cursed depth 4 root chalices so FRC 5 isn't so horrifying
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First fo-

>68s left on anti-flood

xth for MariaxCrowmeme OTP
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You can't delete a thread if you're the OP, can you?
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>>164714156
No, but you can ignore a thread, then migrate to it later if it hasn't 404'd yet.

This one was made first, so we should stick here. Creation time is a simple and objective way to choose a thread, no need to complicate it any further than that.
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staight outta general posting
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>>164714149
>crowsteel cosplay
>ludwig's

Kosm this is too much
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>>164714328
That's not Crowsteel, it's the cosplayer's original character, Crowmeme. There's no relation to Crowsteel, I'm not sure where you got that from.
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Doll would look super cute with her hair tied back like that
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>>164714009
used that photo for this for the same reason. doll needs something to help pass the time anyway
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My recent fashion craze is Blindfold Cap+Cainhurst Armor with Gratia's Fist and an untricked holy moonlight sword
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>>164714149
Fucking great costumes
Source?
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>>164715183
I don't know who did the cosplays. I found it on tumblr, and the tumblr links back to this reddit page:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/5kz9st/crazy_good_bloodborne_cosplay/

Which doesn't seem to have any info.
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>>164715154
I ran that same look a while back too, only with Loch Shield instead of fist
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>FRC watchers dropped a nourishing gem

I've killed these fat fucks for so long and this the first time I've seen them drop this. How rare is this?
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I completely missed the odeon chapel dweller and sending people to isofeska's clinic my first play through, now that I've read the wiki and seen them both I see how they were trying to trick you into thinking the kind soft voice is the good one compared to whatever the fuck odeon chapel dweller is supposed to be and his nervous laughter
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>>164714590
doll and gehrman smoking blunts together
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>>164715830
chapel dweller is a bro, I wonder how he manages to resist turning into a beast, or how he keeps sane. Perhaps it's because he's blind and those with eyes go crazy, at least in Yharnam.
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>>164716223
>resist turning intoa beast
well i asume he just doesnt take the blood
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So how does the tricked moonlight sword and tricked wheel work in regards to arcane? The info screen for both have low arcane damage compared to physical
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>fucking completely forgot about that one locked door at the bottom of cathedral ward you find a key for in the DLC
>already went into NG+

REEEEEEEEEE
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>>164716554
it's hard to keep track of all the nooks and crannies you missed, that's part of the charm I suppose
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>>164716554
What door? i must know
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>>164715830
>look around odeon chapel
>creepy motherfucker, but it says x to talk so he's chill I guess
>do his mission
>don't go back to the clinic until way later, not even aware of iofska until like forbidden woods
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Can you just die to any sackman to be taken to Yar'ghul early or does it have to be a specific one?
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>>164716830
I heard there's a "real" one, haven't found her yet
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>>164716369
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1doP2HShMmJcHZFTNSZ3yVFxbUu4U1aO6yHIk9-wQ1Wo/edit#gid=222193878
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>>164716902
Any sackman.

Chalice sackmen notwithstanding.
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>>164716928
The real isofeska is avaliale I think as soon as you go to hunters dream, she asks you not to come in as you'll potentially contaminate her patients, and then gives you a special blood vial

Fake isofeska kills and replaces her after you kill Gascogine, she actually has a different voice actor (I think the same one as one of the witches of izalith)
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>>164716223
>I wonder how he manages to resist turning into a beast
Remember that the incense keep the beats away.
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>>164716369
You could check the OP on the moveset data to see how the modes change. The in-game screen won't show it.
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>>164716369
When tricked the Wheel gets

> 200% Arcane damage increase
> +0.5 Arcane scaling (taking its scaling from 0.56 "C" rating to a 1.06 "S" rating)
> 20 Flat Arcane damage added after all other increases are calculated
> 30% reduction in physical damage

Plus each L2 rev increases Arcane damage by a percentage, one rev for 10%, two for 20%, three for 40% and four for 60%.

This means at 50 Arcane (0.85 saturation) and using decent Nourishing gems your Arcane damage on the wheel is.

{[50 + (50 * 1.06 * 0.85)] * 3.00 * 1.215 * 1.215 * 1.195 * (1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.4 or 1.6 depending on 0-4 revs)} + 20 + 15(only if your triangle Noirishing has Flat Arc)

You can reach over 800 arcane damage on a wheel. Plus Whatecer physical damage you have.
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>>164717085
ah, so I never met the real one, got it.
I also saw that one pic where she's in a suggestive pose on a table, how do I trigger that?
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>>164715780
Pretty fucking rare, post a screenshot of it.
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>>164717540
>how do I trigger that?
By playing the fucking game.

No, literally.
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>>164715830
>>164716830
>Isofeska
>Iofska
>Odeon

This is triggering me way more than it should be.
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>>164717706
People can't spell, man.

Amerifats can't spell anything right and Eurocucks spell everything wrong.

Makes for a fun time.
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>>164717706
>>isofeska
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>>164717698
I already killed her couple of days ago, I doubt she can still be flirty.
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>>164717376
A while back someone said that the guide had a typo for Watchdog's fire defense, and that it's actually 999; was that you? Cause I'm getting contradictory damage values from it.
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>>164717937
thats where imagination is needed
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>>164717817
Where are you from, my man?
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>>164718080
I'm an Amerifat but I can actually spell. Most of the time.

>>164717917
>image
I want one like that, but of Gascoigne when he bears his teeth at the player, and "It's enough to make a man kek" done with the in-game subtitles, in the vain of pic related.
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>>164718080
hes probably the new zealand cumfarmer
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>>164717615

A little late but here. What's the best that you can get from Amygdala?
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>>164718181
>vain
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>>164718528
Awwww shit.

I was wondering why it looked so weird. Goddamn I haven't seen "vein" spelled out in a while.
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>>164717376
>>164717124
Oh I see. I don't anything about gems, but looks like the uncanny version is the best for 50 arc? I wasted my chunks on the normal version then.

Thanks though
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>>164717958
The guides info on the Wheel is all kinds of wrong. They don't even have a table for its tricked moveset.

It's likely that FromSoft didn't give them any info at all about weapon mechanics and they had to figure it out. Those values were the work of several people testing the fuck out of the wheel post-release.
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>>164718381
21.5% with a secondary effect.

Are you doing a STR/ARC build? Because that gem would be insane on a HMS or Wheel.
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Anyone need help with anything?
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>>164719152
My life.
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>>164718761
What? I'm talking about Watchdog's fire defense.
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>stand in mergos
>adversary appears
>go in lift then hide
this is fun :^)
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>>164718667
Uncanny for Flat gems and Nourishings, Lost for Nourishings. Normal can work with Nourishings too, it'll be a little weaker than Uncanny and Lost unless you get a perfect Waning OoS from Isz Amy.
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>>164719340
other way around is even better
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Anyone helping in Cursed Pthumerian Defilement Layer Two against the Fire Doggo ? He's just out of my git gud league with half health, so I think if 2 can come that's wonderfull! Pass: doggo
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>>164719042

No, I got this on my basic bitch SKL build
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>>164718667
Don't get hung up on weapon versions.

For a Nourishing Wheel people will say Lost is best for Rom Radial, and Amy Triangle and Waning, but theoretically you could get monsters like >>164718381 in any shape, making it irrelevant.

Or if you're too lazy to get the best gems from bosses, you might hit up Gargoyles who you'll have to get an off-shape or two from, making it a crapshoot which version of the Wheel you'll need, unless you don't mind doing even more forming.

Gem research and/or collection first, weapon second.
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>>164719152
So do Ayys have a gender?
If so, why can't we seduce Ebrietas into just giving us the chalice
Why can't we impregnate baby emissaries
Why can't be impregnate big emissary
Is Moon Presence thinking of lewd things to do with intertwining tentacles?
Why don't all celestial enemies just try to cuddle us instead
Is the worm shooting transformation attack actually just semens?
Why doesn't Yurie just remove her clothes when you meet her as an Ayy?
So many questions
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I mentioned it earlier this week, but tomorrow around 6pm EST I'll be trying to start a weekly spelunking club.
I'll be personally making three FRC dungeons. One Pthumeru, one Loran and one Isz. If you're interested please don't be afraid to pass on the love and make your own chailces.
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>>164718761
>It's likely that FromSoft didn't give them any info at all about weapon mechanics and they had to figure it out.

Pretty much this. Wheel is the biggest fuck-up, but they get plenty of other things wrong. E.G., Boomhammer is listed as having different multipliers for its blunt and fire damage, when it actually has a single multiplier for both damage types, it's just that the multipliers themselves change when you prime it. Also threaded cane's tricked R1s are listed as having higher than its untricked R1s, when this is not actually the case. The tricked R1s actually have a lower multiplier than the untricked R1s, but when you trick the cane, it gets a bonus to its Skill scaling. Thus, on a skill build, cane's tricked form will hit harder than its untricked form, while on an Arcane build, the tricked form will deal less damage than the untricked form.

fwiw, that skill scaling bonus also applies to viscerals, making a tricked threaded cane the best weapon in the game for viscerals.
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>>164719741
>Spelunking club
That's actually a pretty neat idea if you can get enough people on board
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>>164719741
Good stuff, anon. I'm definitely joining tomorrow. It's going to be a mad race.
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>>164719306
Then why'd you reply to a post about the Logarious Wheel?

I assumed the Hotdog thing was just related to guide being wrong.

I don't know anything about Hotdog's Fire defense, but 9949 seems like a silly number to choose. Maybe it is a typo maybe it isn't. It's also impossible to test bosses defense values because bosses with multiple damage zones (EG Amy's legs or Rom's face) have Damage Reduction as well as defense. I'm pretty sure hotdog takes more damage to the face, so his legs might have armour similar to players in addition to defense.
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>>164719473
Anybody help you out yet, anon?
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>>164720008
No nobody yet, can you come ? :c I summoned someone yesterday but we got absolutely destroyed
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>>164720197
omw aswell m8
lets give fire doggo the business
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>>164720250
>>164720008
Thanks ! I'll be waiting, this fire doggo ate his dog chow goddamn
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>>164720352
>everyones calling it fire doggo now
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>Decide to make build around the Rifle Spear because the concept and aesthetics are neat as fuck
>Actually get the rifle spear
>It's borderline unusable in PvE
God damn, not wonder absolutely no one who uses this thing in FC's wins any duels.
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>>164719190
not that kind of help, sorry Anon
>>164719527
I mean they may have strange genders of their own or maybe even hermaphrodites, then again we fight Mergo's wetnurse so who really knows. But what I do know is I wanna fug a choir girl.

Still offering help (with bosses) to anyone who wants it, I'm just keen to coop.
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>>164719761
> fwiw, that skill scaling bonus also applies to viscerals, making a tricked threaded cane the best weapon in the game for viscerals.

Wait, what?

I always thought about that, but I assumed it wouldn't have an effect since Heavy Abyysals don't give STR scaling to Viscerals. Would Sharp gems theoretically improve Viscerals then? Or is the threaded canes scaling buff handled differently?
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>>164720523
>since Heavy Abyysals don't give STR scaling to Viscerals

But they do

And yes, sharp gems would improve viscerals, but for math reason I don't want to go into right now, sharp gems are literally incapable of ever adding as much damage as a tempering gem of equal rating. It used to be the same for Heavy/Cold gems, until they got buffed.
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>>164719978
Sorry, I figured it was worth asking you since not many people get very involved in the numbers of the game. You can test boss defenses though; since hitzones apply after the defense formula, and the damage formula isn't a simple multiplier, you would be able to tell with multiple tests the different values between them. According to my tests, Watchdog takes 100% damage on legs, 115% damage on broken legs, 75% on his head, and 250% damage on a broken head.
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>>164720352
kek my chikage killed me
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Ringing again for Fire Doggo, oops
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how do I get to blood starved beast through old yahrnam without aggroing djura?
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>>164721087
you cant the first time, but once youve killed darkbeast paarl you can go behind his watchtower and wont agro him
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>>164721015
omw again assuming youre >>164720352
killed by my chikage ;_;
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>>164720973
lol, my brain suddenly stopped working when he did the explosion attack, coldn't get out fast enough
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>>164721087
oh wait you only said get to bsb, theres no way to get to bsb without aggroing djura, jsut dont attack any other beasts and run past everything
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>>164721087
If you're going for a friendly djura just run your way to bsb, kill it, then wickity wack get into his sack your way to hypoleon gaol and say hi to Paarl. Finally go say hi to Djura making your way to him from bsb lantern (or use the shortcut from old yahrnam lantern).
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>>164721409
So even if he starts shooting me I should still be able to get friendly djura that way?
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>>164721263
well i didnt last long
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>>164721651
It's okay I died again ;-;
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>>164721648
As long as you don't kill Djura, you can always make friends. Kill as much stuff in Old Yharnam as you like on your first run through, even his hunter friend.

After beating Paarl don't kill anything and approach Djura without him seeing you. And you'll be friends.
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>>164721648
yeah this >>164721967
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>>164721967
>kill paarl
>make friends
>his hunter friend didn't get the message and attacks me
>aggros Djura
Why
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>>164721869
did you kill it?
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>>164722432
No, almost but one-shotted me with his side attack
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>>164722543
i need to be more careful with my chikage
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Yo my dudes can I get a bit of assistance with Laurence. I'm bl 79 with my beckoning bell right out the entrance to the boss
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God damn magic in BB is so much more satisfying than magic in any Souls game.

There's just something about being a cosmic wizard channeling the power of dimensions beyond your understanding that beats simple magic missile spamming.

Hell, the same could be said about the whole game honestly, the whole cautionary tale about humans reaching into realms beyond their understanding for ascension, a massive love letter to Lovecraft, is just way more interesting that Souls repeating cycles of undead shit.
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>>164722642
On me way.
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Thanks Max and Emily ! wouldn't have make it without you <3
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What SL should I be when I start the DLC?
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>>164722306
> not killing Djura the moment you get his gesture/rune

His clothes have too much frenzy resist and Beasthood to be wasted on him.

>>164720701
> but they do

Huh, the more you know. I just noticed my weapons with Heavy Gems doing less visceral damage than one with 3 27%'s in it and assumed they did nothing. That's good to know.

Gotta get myself a Cane with three 32.6% thrust gems on it to farm Watchers with on my SKL build now.
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>>164722642
>>164723104
Wait, password?
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>>164723184
Yeah but they look like shit, besides, Henryk's set gives pretty good beasthood too.

also
>caring about armor stats in BB
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>>164723184
youre no better than a beast
>>164723131
no problem
>probably died more times to my own weapon than to bosses
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>>164723131
Np.

For future reference, just break his face. And if you co-op him, only attack when he's aggro'd on you, so he doesn't get erratic.
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>>164723335
armor stats can matter if youre trying to solo something like the loran camerabeast where the added bolt resistance of henryks could save your ass
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>played on release, just barely managed to finish the game
>replay now
>use npc summons to distract the boss while I knee-cap them with the cane
I'm fucking disgusting and I love it
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Playing through this for the first time and WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT SPOOKY BLUE LIGHT WHERE THE TOP HAT IN THE CATHEDRAL WARD IS.

It spooked me a little and I fucked off away from it but it keeps randomly triggering whenever am nearby now.
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>>164723392
>>164723467
Thanks ! That was fun, we can play together any time right ? ;-;
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>>164723184
By the time you have three 32.6% thrust gems, you won't need to farm Watchers anymore.
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>>164723586
GET OUT OF THERE YOU POOR BASTARD
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>>164723467
only problem with that i if he charges while your in the process of an attack, in that he charges just as the person finishes te attack so they can dodge in time, but if he decides to charge while youre charging an r2 or whatever then youre fucked
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>>164723586
Anon, get out now, you don't want this game to be spoiled for you.

I will say one thing, there's gonna be this big event that happens later in the game (trust me, you'll know it when it happens), when that happens go back to see what really happened.
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>>164723171
60+, probably.
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>>164723729
Oh no I do know about that, I did read into it a little, something to do with insight and a later boss, but I don't know about the specifics besides everything getting more cosmic horror, which am getting hyped for.
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>>164723625
what was the start of your psn name thing?
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>>164723586
Spoiler, in case you don't want to experiment
When you kill Amalia and go into the forest for the first time, teleport back to the grand cathedral. Run left. There'll be two NPC fights, and some doors you can knock on, which give you a key item. With that key item, let the blue spark hit you. It teleports you to a different area. In the grand cathedral area it takes you to the hunter's nightmare, while outside of the cathedral ward where you're at, it takes you to the DLC area.
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>>164723695
I have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say.
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>>164722685
I feel you anon

Bloodborne's one of my absolute favourites games because it takes Lovecraftian themes and concepts, is recognizable in its influences, but does its own thing and does it very well.
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>try a skill/bloodtinge build for once instead of just meathead ludwig's holy sword build
>still using the cane all the way up to rom because none of the other skl weapons interest me

I want to try using the burial blade but I don't want to do chalice fuckery for 12 hours to get it before NG+
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>>164723227
I don't have one
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>>164723814
Seriously anon, spend as little time here as possible until after you beat your first playthrough, trust me, unlike the Souls series where there's no real big twists and reveals Bloodborne is all about learning about just how terrible everything really is.
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>die to Henryk
>come back
>walk into the area just in time to see Eileen fucking die to him

FUCKING GOD DAMN IT MOTHER FUCKER I ALREADY PUT LIKE 4 HOURS ON THIS CHARACTER
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>>164723861
if he charges at you while youre standing infront of him then youre fucked if he charges when your in the middle of charging an r2 attack because you wont be able to dodge
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>>164723986
Well set one, or there is a very slim chance you will actually summon me.
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>>164724067
Then don't charge R2s when he's neutral and could possibly start a charge?

He shakes his head and waits about half a second before he lunges. If you can't read that that's your problem.
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>>164724020
Well before I go back to the old grind wheel, do you get anymore hunter fights in the game ? I enjoyed Gascoinge fight and It'd be nice to break up the beast fights which so far feel a little bit derivative of each other (Amelia and Cleric beast felt a little samey to me).
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>>164724187
>getting this wound up about something tiny pointed up
are you autistic or something fucking hell
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>>164724143
Ok I set it to gg
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>>164723818
It's Naranciaerosmizu
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>>164723904
>but does its own thing and does it very well
That's one of my favourite parts about it and why I believe Miyazaki truly is a genuinely Lovecraft fan who wrote a story that Howard himself could be proud of. Unlike so many people Miyazaki realize Lovecrafts main theme isn't just "muh Cthulhu," it's about the utter insignificance of man and the horror that lay well outside of our own feeble minds.

>>164724189
Yes, you have a few NPC fights (and the NPC hunters in this game are almost harder than a lot of the bosses) and not to spoil anything but you'll get a choice at the end of the game, if you pick "refuse" you'll get to experience one of the best boss fights in any Miyazaki game.
There's also one hunter boss in the DLC if you have it.
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>>164724189
yes, there's a few more bosses against hunters. And quite a few against humanoids who arnt technically hunters, but still offer the 1v1 duel kind of boss fight

There's also hostile NPC's, but they are....less fun...
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>>164724287
>act like a retard with that trip earlier
>get stomped by an easy as fuck boss multiple times
>try and put your worthless two cents in on my advice on said boss
I just don't like you.
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>>164724304
gg indeed.
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Thanks for the help boys
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>>164724489
>There's also hostile NPC's, but they are....less fun...


I swear a fucking god, a piece of me dies every time someone pops an iron elixir and just sprays infinite ammo at you. The gatling gun NPC in the DLC can straight-up get FUCKED.
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>>164724538
The anon that is being autistic is not me (anon that asked for help) ;-;
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>>164724538
kek, were you with us for kos or something?
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>>164724719
I was assuming you were the third guy with us on Hotdog.

If not then goddamn, your input is even more irrelevant.
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>>164724882
i was the third guy :^)
>actually giving a shit about tripfag bullshit
have you got nothing better to focus on
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>>164725072
>go out of your way to be noticed
>someone notices you
>"wow bro have you got nothing better to do"
Here's your last (You). Savor it.
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>>164725237
if youre gonna get this triggered over something on /bbg/ then... wow :^) man the fuck up and get so ass hurt over something on 4chan
thanks for the (you) though
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How does this stupid attack always hit me? What's with the beast embrace claws giving you less iframes when you dash?
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>>164719741
I am so down for that shit.
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The quality of this thread is fast approaching /dsg/ levels
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>>164725572
Feels bad, man.
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>>164725572
Not one of the good days
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>>164725526
it's best to dodge forward through it
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>>164725526
You have to dodge diagonally, forward.. The explosion's hitbox is just slightly bigger than the graphical effect itself.
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>>164725572
>have a retarded idea to use trips to take attention off luci and to show people that filtering trip fags like luci is better than complaining about everything he does
>it backfires severely
>some people like this guy (see: >>164724538 >>164725237) are still extremely upset about it
rubadubdub
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>Don't want to wait for my toaster to render this 100mb boss fight into a webm
>Maybe I can just upload it somewhere
>Try gfycat
>Gfycat accepts it
>Cuts it down to 20 seconds
Damn it.
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>>164725526
Walk to one side and dodge opposite, works 100% of the time.
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>>164726164
>it backfires severely
Literally what did you expect to happen? You were trying to show everybody something they already knew, though the point was moot because everybody knows that somebody out there will still do exactly what they have been told not to do.
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>>164726673
No one really cares enough to not reply to tripfags, thats just how it is
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>>164726673
i said it was a retarded idea, thats literally part of the first thing i said there. fuck.
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I can't defeat big dadddy cainhurts in my efforts to become a bloodtinge loving vileblood. Is anyone available to help? pass is lad
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>>164726823
I'm standing in front of the fog gate btw
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just put the tag on for this post to just say sorry for my retarded idea earlier and how badly it backfired
well this is the gayest thing ive ever done
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>>164725786
>>164725740
>>164726428

dodging sideways like in the webm without Ihe beast's embrace always works if you just wait until the last second before you dodge
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>>164726805
Even if they cared, there's always that one newfag who doesn't know any better, as like what happened today.
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>>164726963
>>164726823
anyone? :'(
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>>164725526
clearly still inside the explosion when the dodge ended
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>>164727697
>:'(
This is an 18+ website, anon.
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>>164727879
i am 37 years old i just want my wife's son to have a good character on this bloodborne video game
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>>164727985
kek
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>>164727985
Somehow I'm not convinced.
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>always used academy floor 1 lecture hall to farm blood
>never actually did chalice dungeons before
>just been goofing around because it's my day off
>try making ailing loran chalice after messing around with the pthumerian chalices
>150,000 souls in about 3 minutes
HOLY FUCK
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>>164728084
will this convince you? *unzips dick*
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>>164728094
Wait until you start getting into the FRC chalices, I'm sitting at about 30 million blood echoes with nothing to spend them on (really, I even have 99 hand lanterns)
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>>164728107
>not "*unzips chikage*"
fuck off
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>>164728094
Yeah Ailing and Lower Loran throw echos at you like nobody's business.

Once you outgrow Lecture Hall, clearing the first big room in Layer 2 IIRC of Lower Loran is worth about 64k, and it's just a dozen Old Yharnam beasts.
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>>164728094
>babbys first loran
getting all grown up :^)
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>>164727191
To be fair, the people who got all up in arms about such petty, completely nonsensical bullshit made the thread even worse with their OH NO MUH /dsg/ THIS PLACE SUCKS.

If people would just shut their retarded fuckings mouths instead of incessantly complaining about tripfags and lucigger in particular, we wouldn't be having a problem. Tripfags thrive on attention, so ignoring and filtering them is literally the solution, this is basic knowledge that everyone should know by now.
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>>164720436
>I'm bad so the weapon is bad
>Borderline unusable in PvE
I'll forgive for the first point but borderline unusable in PvE? Fucking EVERYTHING works in PvE.
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>>164729078
The damage with worse than your average saw despite being half the speed and I swear the actual hitbox on the transformed R1 is half the length of the model.
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>>164729185
There've been several posts completely opposite to yours regarding the thing over the last few days.

I'm given to think that its transformed mode is fine, even if the untransormed mode is lacking.

I don't have any idea, but if the metric you use to measure a weapon is a Saw, they're all gonna come up short.
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BULLY Maria
BL60
Pass is bbg
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>Fighting HMPH HMPH HMPH with an arcane twink build
Anyone wanna lead a hunter a hand? Ithyll first layer, pass is hmph. Keep in mind your stats will be severely downgraded.
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>>164729671
>twink needing help
What else is new?

>>164729612
Omw pham
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>>164729671
Not able to help ya but Exe gloves stagger HMPH good to get a few hits in safely.
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>>164729724
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
DONT LOOK
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>>164729724
I'm going to cry
I can flawless her solo I promise
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>>164729724
Do you just want to invade me and kill me
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>>164716223
if he's not a beast then why does he look like such a freak?

he looks almost as bad as a hemwick witch, or one of those stilt-walker chalice witches who shoot fireballs at you
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>>164730143
If you wanna do that I'll peace out. I don't even know how she got you last time.
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>>164730407
No!its supposed to be a bully :(
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/v/ has recently come tot he conclusion that BB was a failure. Why was it? What could have prevented it?
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>>164730545
>Taking the bait
>on /v/ of all the boards
Anon stop.
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>>164730407
Yo I am saving that last parry
Was beautiful, thanks man
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>>164730671
I think that qualified as a bully. Man I love that fight. Cheers
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Does anyone want to help me with Isz ebrietas? I keep getting fucked by the charge attack

Pass bbg

Also who is HMPH I'm new
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>>164730623
But what could have made people's reception better? A more clear story? No Maria bullying? A talking Hoonter with a dialogue wheel? A PC release?
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>>164730823
Pthumarian Descendant
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>>164730823
Sure, but I'll have to use SRRC
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>>164729078
Reiterpallasche.
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>>164730990
Thanks man it's just the default not a root
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>>164730849
Cease.
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>>164730849
I''d like the ability to sprint backwards while locked on
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>>164730849
Obviously /v/ is going to say a PC release is all the game needed.
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>>164713821
I don't get the op image.
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>>164731292
Would ruin the fanbase. DeS was a treat and before the PC release DaS was too.
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>>164731369
Preaching to the choir on that one homes.
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>>164730701
Anon!
Watch yourself RIP AND TEAR
https://youtu.be/RzIBcXCVG5s
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>>164731292
>2 years later and they're still salty that one of the best games of the past few years is a PS4 exclusive
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>>164731568
why do people do this, it trivializes an otherwise awesome fight
she's already pretty easy 1v1
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>>164730545
>>164730849
/v/ has NONSTOP console bait threads
bloodborne is a "sonykek's" main argument for a ps4
they stop seeing it as a game and more as a reason to hate gold face spamming console flamers like >>164731648
that then paints their perception of the game itself
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>>164731738
I'm just rushing through anon
I know I hate wasting a good fight too but I'm doing very little damage to her it becomes a battle of attrition
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>>164731568
Kek. Man I was scared you put my PSN ID on YouTube.

Too bad my first gesture input was a dud and I wound up swapping weapons like a dork. Oh well.

Glad I got that interrupt 'cause I'm pretty sure that attack would've killed me.

>>164731648
It's pretty awesome.

I'm salty that the Dragon's Dogma they got isn't on PS4 yet, though.
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How fun is a hunter tools + throwables only run?
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>>164730849
They're baiting you, anon. Even most of the extreme PC fanboys just shitpost about it because of how many (You)s you can get from it.
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Anyone want to help me with these 3 hunter faggots in Yar'gul? BL52 pass is kek
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>>164731868
Always have names up :-)
And I know which is why it made the parry so great
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>>164731032
Alright, did a system reset, let's see if that works.
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>>164731369
Were there still honorfags before PC
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>killing darkbeast Paarl makes djura friendly regardless of if you killed old yharnam beasts or he shot you

How does that make any fucking sense
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>>164729671
Someone, anyone? Please, unshackle me.
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>>164732143
Ring a ding
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>>164732226
Yeah I'll help you faggot
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does the standard backstep (just pressing circle) give you any iframes? Because it doesn't seem like it. I get hit every time I try, unless I actually back out of range
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>>164732190
Killing Paarl doesn't make him friendly, coming through the back way and not slaughtering beasts in his plain sight does.
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>>164731920
Sure, fuck those nigs.
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>>164732336
No, you need to at least gain the insight from seeing Paarl before Djura goes friendly.
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>>164732226
Srrcing unless you want to give the glyph
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>>164732406
How can you verify that without killing Paarl?
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>>164732457
It's story mode Ithyll mang, every story mode chalice is connected.
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Where does Micolash go to shitpost in his down time?
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How does co-op in chalice dungeons work?
I've been trying to go 100% solo but the blood-starved beast in ailing loran floor 2 is pissing me off. I keep getting it down to 5% HP with parries and then dying to some random dumb shit. May as well get two other people to suffer through this shit with me.
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>>164732402
already got someone sorry :(
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>>164732494
Bold hunters mark or just die during the fight, then warp to the church of the good chalice
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>>164732507
THEN ILL RING FROM THE CHALICE
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>>164732178
Of course.
>tfw all the fanmail when I would heal during invasions
>mfw I "well what is it" and the invader recipricates the emote but I just run behind him and backstab him
Good times
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>>164732650
Sounds good muh man, thank you for the unshackling.
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>>164732554
Man, you parry nerds. Just walk around him clockwise.

>>164732610
That's weird. Maybe it's just the flag they used assume you'd kill it and open the gate, instead of just using the gate as the flag.
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>>164732726
>take poison
>heal
>suddenly 100% of your health is gone with one attack

I love the challenge, but I'm not at all a fan of this shit with "you either do it perfectly or you DIE, no mistakes"
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>>164732712
ARE YOU NEAR THE LAMP
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is the only way to kill Amelia before BSB to buy the hunter chief emblem?
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>>164732818
What are you, BL10? By the time I get to Loran his poison AoE can't even fill my bar anymore.
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>>164732818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCjrpghCYc
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>>164732921
Boss fog, I could head over to the lamp though
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Is there anywhere I can find rally number info for all the weapons?
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>>164733003
Yes please
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>>164732257
Are you at the lamp by chance?
If not, I think my connection's just shit righ now.
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>>164733067
Ringing
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>>164732997
Fucking kek.

But anon, you didn't need to artifice those rage messages like that. I was here for the all-caps rage shit and that wasn't Lucifer (way to give him even more attention by the way) and that dude was crying about Camerabeast, both of which I'm sure you know.
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>>164732997
>lucifer
ahahaahAHAHAAHA
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>>164733156
Anon I'm about to go back to the SRRC
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>brainsucker can't grab through spin2win charge up
Is there anything this weapon can't do?
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>>164732818
>>164732726
Disregard that I suck cocks.
Kept whacking his shins with my cane and the only flask I used was to heal poison damage.

I may or may not have been mistaken in my approach.
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>>164733280
Pthumarian Ithyll story mode, first (technically second) lantern, pass is hmph.
Might just be something fucked on my end, I could try restarting my PS4.
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>>164733324
Parryfags are overrated.

And word to the wise, every single beast, save Camera/Paarl and, at least to knowledge, Abhorrent, have an exploitable blind spot that makes dealing with them far easier than facing them head on. Almost every beast fight in the game can be explained by "strafe clockwise" or "anti-clockwise".
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>>164722685
>God damn magic in BB is so much more satisfying than magic in any Souls game.
I feel like BB bosses frequently weren't designed to deal with magic and often get chewed up by certain hunter's tools. People rave about pure arcane builds but making one was just using a saw spear and cheesing bosses with Augur of Ebrietas, Blacksky Eye, and Executioner's Gloves.
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>>164733423
That's where I was ringing mate, idk try what you like
I'm still ringing
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>>164733793
Shouldn't be taking that long then, I'll try restarting, sometimes that does the trick
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>>164733859
Alright dude I'm waiting
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Lucifer is so adorable

I hope I kiss him one day
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>>164733937
You wouldn't happen to be wearing the crowfeather garb with a chikage, would you?
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>>164734139
Lmao no
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>>164734187
Alright, just keep seeing some ghost like that hanging around the lantern
You set to worldwide?
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>>164734312
Yeppp
Just waiting m8
I could always try resetting mine however I've never had to before
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>>164734369
I reset mine and nothing seemed to happen, you could give it a shot I guess.
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>>164734535
Alright
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Is there any reason not to keep insight as low as possible?
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>>164734535
Ringing
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is the church pick the fastest 2h weapon?
>>164734669
higher insight lowers frenzy resistance
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>>164734735
I know that. I was asking if high insight has any BENEFITS.
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>>164730545
>recently
Someone post the old comic for this general.
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>>164734669
Exigent co-op, maybe? Or Insight shop purchases.

Or if you wanna see the eyes on the Church-sackmen's lanterns and the Amygdala on Oedon Chapel.

So, probably not really.
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>>164734782
not really no, beside pre-rom seeing amygdala everywhere, or buying things from the insight shop
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>>164734669
blood rocks cost 60 insight
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>>164734669
>not allowing your insight to build up naturally over the course of a playthrough to mirror the progression of the world from "normal" to nightmarish hellscape
If you don't have 99 Insight by the time you reach the Wetnurse you're doing it wrong.
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>beat bsb without getting hit
>Can barely damage vicar Amelia before she fucking destroys me
I'm so close to giving up and summoning isn't an option because I don't have PSN or a trial
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>>164734535
Anon I've acquired a headache
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So when I'm farming the watchers for gems do I just run through the first level 100 times?
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>>164735196
Lmao
>having trouble with Amelia
Man I love newfags, they make me nostalgic
Wait until she heals and you don't know what to do because you don't read item descriptions
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>>164735231
Yeah, doesn't seem like it's gonna happen for some reason.
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>>164735196
If the beasts loom large, and threaten to crush your spirits, seek a Holy Chalice.
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>>164735314
Sorry dude
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>>164735305
I know about numbing mist i don't want to use it because I have a limited amount. Once they're gone I'm up shit creek besides I have to get to her healing stage first.
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Why are some people associated with the church sometimes turn into beasts? Ludwig, Laurence, Amelia etc. seem to become terrible beasts for no reason.
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>>164735415
Fucking boomerang blade
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Best PvE weapons for skill builds? Thinking of blades of mercy for mine
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>>164735574
>no reason
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>>164735196
>>164735305
Is it strange that Amelia never seems to heal when I fight her? It only happened on my first playthrough.
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>>164735696
Nah, you probably don't give her space
Which is good
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Are FRC bosses tougher than regular Depth 5 bosses? Or does the additional rite only affects regular enemies inside the labyrinth?
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>>164735574
Play the game.
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>>164735196
If BSB is "the left, to the left", Amelia is "to the right, to the right"
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>>164732554
> I'm having trouble with BSB

Follow this handy guide anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCjrpghCYc&feature=youtu.be
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>>164735637
Saw Spear and Church Pick. Blade of Mercy can be good later in the game, but early on it's pretty shit, in my opinion.
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>>164736035
>>164732997
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>>164732997
>>164736035
> someone already posted my own video

Well this is embarrassing.

>>164733227
>>164733185
Read the comments on the video. It wasn't even meant to be a Luci reference. I accidentally saved an edit of Darkbeast Anons rant instead of the original, then changed it to "poison" without realising the name.
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Is there a point to wearing the eye runes for farming the watchers? It seems like the gem drop is guaranteed
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Fuck that boomerang blade thing is such bullshit
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>>164736341
Eye Runes have no bearing on gem type or quality.

Whether or not the gem drop is guaranteed I don't know, though.
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>>164736404
He shouldn't even be using it, unless you're pussying out like a little bitch and running away from him.
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>>164736483
>unless you're pussying out
Well, he is a twink...
>>
>Beat Amelia second try first play through
>now on my 8th or so try with my skill build

Anyone wanna help? Pass is bbg
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>>164736341
A gem always drops and Eye runes have no baring on the quality or effect of the gem, nor do they make off-shapes happen more often.

However eye runes do greatly increase the droprate of Chunks, so if you need more upgrade materials you might as well do while farming gems at the same time.
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>>164736571
>>164735821
Anti-clockwise mang. You can do it.
>>
Are there drop tables for bosses/gems?
Do I have to farm a certain boss to get specific gems, or does only depth/chalice type/additional rites matter?

Like, if I want fire gems, do I have to farm the Hot Dog exclusively?
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>>164736571
Whip with fire paper bro, she dissolves with limb breaks and staggers.
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>>164736713
OP, man. Read the OP.

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
>http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv
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>>164736713
Certain bosses drop certain gems, yes, but chalice rites and specific dungeons do matter in terms of secondary effects and shapes.
Read the OP, man. It's there for a reason.
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>>164736858
>>164736879
That's pretty unfun.
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Yes, finally!

Thank you Albatross, you are a scholar and a gentleman
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>>164737042
Unfun for you. It's unfun for us to answer the same questions several times a thread, especially when they're answered in the OP.
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>>164737101
>boo-hoo, typing is so hard
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>>164737085
Yeah no problem man
Also I'm not the other guy that you could not connect with. I took his spot.
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>>164737042
You shouldn't expect to be spoonfed, especially when all the information you need is in the OP. Do you know how many times we get these questions?
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>>164737202
why should they do the work for you when you clearly refuse to put in any yourself?
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Anybody have any secrets about dealing with Andrew WK on the watcher farm? I'm dying to him more than anything else
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How come half the bosses in this game aren't too good?
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>>164737202
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>>164737202
>boo-hoo why won't you regurgitate the same answers to the same questions that are answered in the OP because I'm a lazy cunt and I refuse to help myself despite the plethora of info put out there specifically for these purposes
Yeah, fuck us, right?
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>>164737295
The what now?
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>>164737219
Ah, alright then.

Also, where you from man? You were lagging like a motherfucker.
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>>164737295
In pwmf22gu? I usually trot normal speed around one side of the carriage, and then sprint the other direction to bait the madman into doing a jumping attack on the carriage.
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>>164737463
Why aren't you just parrying them to death or just running past them?
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>>164737295
Just run for the lever, it'll i-frame whatever he does and dodge right when it ends in case he attacks. Then just run.
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>>164737414
Texas. I didn't even know that, everything seemed fine to me
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>>164736713
Each chalice (Pthuneru, Hintertomb, Loran, Isz) basically has a global loot pool, and all mobs and bosses in that dungeon drop those effects unless overridden by an enemy specific loot pool. For example Beast Possesed Soul drops any effect common to whatever dungeon he is in, but Undead Giants ALWAYS drop adept gems.

Secondary effects follow the same principle, enemies drop secondary effects based on area unless it's overridden. For example Amy will have secondary effects based on whether it's found in Loran or Isz (or defiled Pthumeru), but Brainsuckers drop flat arcane secondary no matter the dungeon.

Shape follows the same principle, Radial in Pthujeru, Waning in Loran, Triangle in Isz and Hintertomb. Unless overridden by enemy specific drop. EG shotgun watchers/BSB drop circle BLT gems or roaming Beast Possesed Souls always drop triangle, or Hemwicj Witchs always dropping waning.

Rites don't affect gem types. Cursed makes all gems cursed, Foetid makes certain enemies drop stronger gems (doesn't change effect, just rating) and Rotted spawns new enemies that often drop unique gems, but has no effect on other gems. Cursed is the important one, some people say FR increases gem quality but I don't know that's true.

Check the OP, there's a mostly complete spreadsheet.
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>>164737569
Yeah, you character seemed to be like a second or two behind everything that was going on on my screen, it's was bizarre seeing you constantly get hit but take no damage while backpedaling
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>>164737542
That's exactly what I'm doing. That's the point of baiting the jump attack.
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>>164737702
I just meant it sounds like you are making it more complicated than you really need to.
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>>164737258
>>164737363
When was the last time you kids looked at the op yourselves?
There is no answer to the question I asked. It's just a bunch of links to spreadsheets with layout a madman must have came up with, that only show individual chalice glyphs.
What I asked is do certain bosses have bias for certain gem properties. Sure, it's possible to deduct that from those individual glyph tables, but that cannot count as answer to my particular question.
>>164737616
Thanks.
>but Undead Giants ALWAYS drop adept gems.
>Amy will have secondary effects based on whether it's found in Loran or Isz (or defiled Pthumeru), but Brainsuckers drop flat arcane secondary no matter the dungeon.
That's the kind of info I wanted. But I can't seem to find it in the pastebin.
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What are the crutches of this game? I mean stuff that ruin the game and that anyone who does them should stop playing
>using the rally mechanic
>Hunter Axe, Beast Cleaver, other memes weapons
>any paper or beast pellets
>using hunter's tools that cause damage
>more than 2 blood gems
>using a gun for parrying
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What is a good addition to LHB for PVE first play? I'm playing semi-blindly lv70, STR and SKL most developed. I'm after Rom and just slayed Amy in Frontier. I was runnimg with Tonitrus but many new weapons are poping up and tempting me.
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>>164737795
It's not complicated at all. He sees you, runs towards you, and you juke him so that the carriage is between the two of you. It doesn't take any more thought or planning than breathing.
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>>164737918
Axe
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>>164737875
>trying to bait this bad
What's the point
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>>164737875
>Dodging instead of rolling
>Charged r2s
>Jump attacks
>Transform attacks
>Wearing clothes
>Comboing r1s
>Pressing any buttons
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>>164737971
>What's the point
Unbalanced game.

It is so much easier to become god in BB than in other from games.
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>>164737846
The Google doc is designed to be read from gem perspective, so you look up fire gems (basically scroll since I don't think it's organised logically whatsoever) and then it will show glyphs and what you have to kill to get it.

If you want a comprehensive info dump I don't think one exists. maybe reddit has one. But I'll do my best.

PTHUMERU
- Primary effects that come from global loot pool
> Physical
> Blunt
> Thrust
> Charge ATK
> ATK up at low HP
> ATK up at full HP
> stamina costs down
> STR scaling
> SKL scaling
> slow poison (very rare)
> Fire (very rare)
> Arcane (ultra rare)


-Secondary Effects
> flat Phys
> ATK up at low HP
> ATK up at full HP
> AKT up VS open foes
> Charge Atks up
> stamina costs down
> durability up

LORAN
- Primary effects
> Fire
> Bolt
> Physical
> slow poison
> rapid poison
> Beast hunter
> Kin Hunter

- Secondary effects
> flat fire
> flat bolt
> slow poison
> rapid poison
> healing
> beast hunter
> kin hunter

ISZ
- Primary effects
> Physical
> bolt
> Fire
> Arcane
> Blunt
> thrust
> ATK up at low HP
> ATK up at full HP
> rapid poison
> slow poison
> stamina costs down
> nourishing (super rare)
> Bloodtinge (so rare it's probably a glitch)

- Sexindary effects
> flat Phys
> flat bolt
> flat Arcane
> flat fire
> slow poison
> rapid poison
> ATK up at full HP
> ATK up at low HP

That's just from memory. I might be missing a few.

1/2
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>>164737943
>weapon from latet parts of a game
>axe
I forgot to filter your retarded ass on my phone, thanks for reminding me
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>Making a skill build and realizing how much farming it'll take to get the gems for the BoM, Church pick, Rakuyo, Saif, and Burial blade

This is a genuinely shit mechanic. I understand hiding the gems in chalices but what the fuck I'm going to have to kill the same boss at least 200 times even if I just change them out when I want to switch
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>>164725526
what the fuck is that shit on your head
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>>164739057
Hes an unsightly beast.
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>>164739003
Gems are bullshit, but I'm pretty sure Skill has the easiest gem farming, aside from maybe the Church Pick if you want Thrust gems.
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>>164738906
Part 2: unique drops boogaloo

Watchers (fat fucks)
> global loot pool
> no secondary effect
> boosted primary effect
> Prhujeru and Isz only

Undead giant
> Blunt or Thrust only
> normal secondary effect
> all dungeon types

Hotdog
> Always fire
> normal secondary effect
> Prhujeru and Loran only

Abhorrent Beast
> always bolt
> normal secondary effects
> secondary effect doubled in power
> primary effect slightly reduced
> only found in Loran

Pthumerian Elder
> always Arcane Scaling
> normal secondary effect
> reduced curse
> all dungeon types

Eribritas
> always Arcane
> normal secondary effects
> only in Isz

Heasless Bloodletting Beast
> always STR scaling
> normal secondary effects
> only in Prhujeru and Loran

Amygdala
> always nourishing
> normal secondary effects
> only found in Isz and Loran root dungeons, exception is preset defiled Pthumeru

Rom
> always nourishing
> normal secondary
> slightly reduced primary effect
> reduced curse
> Pthuner and Isz (quite rare)

Brainsucker
> normal primary effects
> greatly reduced primary effect
> always flat arcane secondary
> massively boosted secondary effect
> Only in Isz as a boss, but mob version is in Prhujeru with same drops

Maneater Bore
> always stamina costs down
> normal secondary
> all dungeons

Ritekeeper
> not a boss
> always drops Healing gems
> always circle shape
> no secondary
> all dungeons

Madmen
> not a boss
> normal primary effect
> normal secondary effect
> slightly reduced primary effect
> doubled secondary effect
> Pthumeru and Isz

Bone Ash Hunter
> not a boss
> normal primary effect
> normal secondary
> always radial shape
> all dungeons
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>>164738906
>>164739737
Thanks, that was great help. Especially Part 2.
These should be the first thing in the chalice pastebin.
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I wish you had the opportunity to rub it in that one dudes face if you tell him odoen is a safe place and then he goes to isofeska and ayy'd
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>>164725526
It's definitely the beast embrace dodging. There is no way that thing should have hit you; you dodged one frame before it exploded.

the unique dodges for the kos parasite / milkweed rune are kind of "slow" like that too, I heard
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>trying to kill Simon for his bowblade
>19 damage a swing

Send help
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Is it true the belt lamp slows your stamina regen?
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>>164740902
It was true. But it was patched a long time ago.
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>>164740902
It used to but that was patched out a while ago if I remember correctly.
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Hey boys, I've been having shit luck with curses, I don't go too far, I usually get a couple radials and usually a triangle or 2 if I'm farming rocks but I can't get a good one.

How bad is something like -63 durability? Can I do PVE without noticing if I kill pretty much everything? I don't mind going back to the dream between lamps but if it can't clear a good sized area and kill a boss in NG+2 without breaking it's gonna get trashed.
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>>164739003
That's where I'm at and the RNG gods are so bad today I'm tempted to just run some stam cost up Hamlet gems I got last week.
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Why didn't you protect her, /bbg/?

>>164719527
Are you me?
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>>164719741
>miss FC every week due to working 2-12
>now this

Fuck. Bet you guys are gonna find something awesome too, like guidance 3 or a fifth layer. Save them glyphs and report in thread boys, I'll be up all night playing them.
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>>164742281
Because I needed that Isz chalice
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>>164742012
Unless you're using the pizza cutter, it shouldn't be noticeable as long as you repair at every lamp.
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>>164742495
>2-12
Yikes, you need to find yourself a better job.
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>>164739003
You only need 27s if you're gemming a skill build. Try farming for abyssals or 31% blt gems
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>>164742281
I haven't worked up the will to kill her after the second time

I just go into the room, look at her, then bold hunter's mark out

If Rom was optional I don't think I could kill her either... I never like attacking things that don't attack me first in souls. I'm even starting to ignore scurrying beasts because their gems are bad and I can just get chunks by murdering rude bosses

>tfw I've become the freakish slug version of Djura
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>>164742821
At this point I just kill Ebrietas for fun even if I don't need the Isz chalice.

Ironically enough I leave that asshole Amygdala alone most of the time despite him going out of his way to get his minions to kill you and eventually attempting to just finish you off himself, lords do deserve respect after all.
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>>164742821
You gotta think big picture man. Ebby is the source of the beast scourge, which in turn caused the moon presence drama and the hunters dream.

If it wasn't for them finding her, none of the events that lead up to the game would have happened. While it isn't her fault per se, you need to make sure that it won't happen again.

Purging the streets isn't all about beasts. They are a symptom of the kin issue and people are too idiotic to stop themselves:
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>>164743035
If the great ones are so great why does Amy rip her arms off like a dumbass
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>>164743035
Amygdala is just a pain to get to. I usually come stupid overlevelled after clearing chalices up until I need red jelly for the ithyll one. It's the only way I have fun with frontier really.

Love shitting on kiddies all the way there that invade with my superior gems and bending Amy over after.
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>>164743205
At this point killing Ebrietas wouldn't change anything, the blood is already poisoned and beyond repair, every time the moon presence is beckoned the night of the hunt will begin again.

I still don't get Amygdala's deal in all this, Ebrietas is trying to help the healing church and humanity but doesn't realize her blood is too much for humans to handle, Moon Presence despite Mergo for some reason and comes down anytime someone wants to summon him because he wants Mergo dead, Mergo is being summoned by the school of Mensis, but why the fuck is Amy around?
No one summoned him, he seems to have no stake in any of this, yet he seem to want the night of the hunt to keep going considering he tries to get his minions to kill the good hunter and eventually tries to kill the good hunter himself, the fuck is his problem?

>>164743445
Not saying he's hard, I just keep him alive so I have another spot to PvP in.
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>>164743438
To reach you easier. Plus the fucker has a few extra to spare.

I guess you could argue that it's also at a point where the boss is well over half dead and it may very well be a last ditch effort.
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>>164743205
How did Ebby being found cause the scourge?
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>finally decide to do co-op after playing solo on my first playthrough
>hunter axe shitters
>hunter axe shitters everywhere
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>>164743438
>great ones are basically gods
>killed by hitting repeatedly with pointy stick
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>>164743438
Amy's fucking pissed

Also, maybe he can grow back arms after a while
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>>164743445
But you can only reach Lower Pthumeru before you need to pay Amy a visit. Can't do defiled without Bastards of Loran.

Best gems you could possibly have are two Lump 20.6% radials and a Clarence 16.5% +14.9 triangle. And unless you go out of your way to farm you won't get those, you'll likely have one 16.5-18% radial and a few lesser gems. No triangles or wanings at all unless you did Hintertomb.
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can someone help me with orphan? i'll be at lighthouse hut password "bbg123"
tell me if you're interested and i'll ring
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>>164743529
The church was founded around the blood she gave them. While her intentions were noble from what we can tell, it did cause the beast transformations. It didn't start until many had already taken the blood and the church went full retard and covered it up while giving out more of her blood, making the problem worse and worse.

The point remains though that she started it after they found her in the chalice dungeons.
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>>164743804
So great one blood turns people into beasts?

It'd be interesting if you could talk to her with high enough insight, almost surprised you can't
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>>164743637
>A pointy stick

Also lets be real, hunter weapons may start out as pointy sticks but the moment blood goes into them they become conduits for whatever biological fuckery there is in blood and, in the case of cursed gems, I believe they are essentially crystallized great one wrath.

Not to mention you are literally empowered by Moon Presence- you're no ordinary hunter.


Although... I think it really is more a matter of banishing them to different planes rather than truly killing them. Ebrietas and Rom's continued presence in chalice dungeons is, I think, an actual reality, not just 'lmao gameplay recycled boss bravo miyazaki'

The great ones are sympathetic in nature and grant audiences to those seeking them... people praying to Kos and Bribri means they want to keep manifesting in nearby planes to grant eyes (see all those eyes in Mensis- granted by Rom who is vacuous and doesn't understand what Micolash wants, hence impaled eyeballs on the wall) and so on.

a FRC ISZ dungeon is a means of pissing Ebrietas off enough for her to descend from higher planes to slap your shit I think, since curses are invocations of wrath. But great ones have very different mindsets, so Ebrietas is enraged by nasty-ass chalice ritual blood mixing, not about being killed/banished from our beastly plane.
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>>164743794
Ringing if you still need help.
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>>164744161
>you're literally empowered by the moon presence, you're no ordinary hunter

Doesn't the moon presence just hang around hunters dream and would've empowered any other hunter that came by?
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Is it "kosher" to stop at a certain level, or can I just keep going until it takes millions of souls just to get one level?

I'm at 30 vit, 30 end, 10 str, 45 skl, 25 bt, and 8 arcane. I feel like hardcapping at 50 skl and then just pumping vit would be neat.
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>>164743794
Whoops, re-ringing without the rune.
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>>164744292
thanks dog, now my ayy is complete
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>>164744161
I thought Rom was originally human hence the vacuous and "grant eyes as you once did to the vacuous rom" unless there is really a great one who's just an actual dumbass that even the scholars of byrgenwerth call her dumb

Good summary of how blood works with hunter weapons tho I never thought of it like that
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>>164744494
Common stopping points are 43, 100, 120, and 150. Some people in /bbg/ also like 98.
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>>164744562
Did someone already help you?
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Reminder that it's Yharnam's blood that causes the scourge. Beasts existed before the church was formed. Yharnam was found under byrgenwerth which is why the city is named after her. Isz and ebby were found after the healing church was formed. Ebby's blood causes people to become Kin.
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>>164744494
If you're just playing the game, 120 is a good stopping point that has a reasonable co-op range. 100 is the respectable PVP level.
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>>164744737
yeah we got him, thanks anyway though
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is 30vit, 14end and 25 skill an okay twink build? using the church pick and have never made a twink before.
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>>164744753
They probably existed from pthumerians fucking with the old blood

I mean byrgenwerth already knew the old blood causes beasthood, that's why the password is "fear the old blood"

The old blood can turn people kin but it needs to be refined which is what iosefka was trying to do
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>>164743515
>Why is Amygdala around?
M E N S I S
E
N
S
I
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>>164744813
Its fine. I'd go less in end and more in skill but you do what suits you best.
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>>164744436
Moon Presence has to specifically pick you I believe, and did so. Sure all hunters who go to the dream are empowered, but you don't get to go unless you win the Moon lottery (or however Moony picks people)

>>164744567
Oh yeh, you're right about Rom. But despite her not being a 'True' Great One I think she gets to play by Great One rules, as do other 'Ascended' humans.

Yharnam seems to have gotten some form of Dream/Nightmare immortality with how she lives on in the nightmare realms of chalices and Mensis and Romland, though this could be via the will of Mergo.

Annalise is harder. She seems to have gotten some nightmare fuckery going on despite being apparently limited to a more biological immortality. Cainhurst may be a nightmare that uses ghost-carriages instead of Amygdala for transport, or at least some mixture of nightmare and 'base reality'...

I dunno. Cainhurst is weird
I think Ascended Pthumerians
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do people use backstep in PVP or something? In PVE it is pointless

I don't even know why it exists other than to give you slightly more move variety for the unique moves you can start after it. It doesn't even give you iframes when you do it (I don't think)
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>>164745562
Who the FUCK is mensis, apparently they have a school?

Why is it mensis' nightmare if micolash is the host?
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>>164746150
>Great for spacing out opponents (even in PvE)
>uses less stamina
>gives you different moves

It doesn't have iframes but I backstep out of shit all the time, you can't be right in someones face but when you need just a bit more room and walking backwards isn't fast enough it's better to spam than a dodge
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>>164746397
> Who the fuck is Hogwarts, why does he have s school if Dumbledore is the headmaster?

Mensis means moon cycle or something in Latin. It's the name of thier organisation, not an individual person.
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>>164746397
>Who the FUCK is mensis, apparently they have a school?
>Why is it mensis' nightmare if micolash is the host?
The school on Mensis is an organization who's goals are arguable outside of gaining eldrich knowledge and or eyes.
It is the Mensis nightmare because the school of Mensis is responsible for it being the way it is. Micolash, being a member of the school of Mensis and acting as a catalyst for the ritual became the Host of the dream. Though in Japanese it's more like Master of the dream.
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>>164746661
Menses is also the bloody gooey shit that comes out of a vagoo during menstruation.
Different spelling but the same pronounciation.
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defecator anal is a fucking bro
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>>164746874
>Different spelling
-es means plural. Like nemesis(s) and nemeses(p).
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>Unseen Village
Jesus Christ, after all the shit I've been through with this place boss was a joke. Summoned Defector Anal, empty shelled my Ludwig Claymore +8 and mauled him to death on my first try.
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I think there's a transformation of blood we've been missing

Black-eyed super strong dudes are dungeon Pthumerians. But they also exist in the form of church members. Is everyone tall a Pthumerian? I don't think so- I think they're just advancing down the 'Pthumerian Evolution' path rather than 'Unsightly Beast' or 'Ayy Mode'

I think when blood works 'as intended' it makes those pale faced, black eyed, super strong and durable dudes who apparently don't need to eat, so they can guard tombs/chalice nightmares forever. I think this use of the blood is 'default slave race upgrade' and I think both ancient Pthumerians and the Choir figured it out. Your genetics need to be very carefully managed- that's why rings of betrothal were such a big deal and mismatched genetic material triggers great one wrath so hard (ala Ritekeeper Fireballs)

But if you use 'secondhand blood' like from Yharnam, BLB, or some random Ashen Blood Beast Patient, you're using blood that isn't geared for your genetics. This leads to incompatibility and beasthood, though it still works well enough to heal you. It can even work well enough so your bone marrow starts pumping out altered blood- this is how blood saints are made.

I don't think the SOURCE of blood matters all that much. Ayys definitely seem to come from Ebrietas, but there are werewolves and blackeyes in UCW and Isz as well. So I think Ayys are Ebrietas personal way of bridging the gap between her and humans- but they aren't accidental like beasts are.

Brainsuckers aren't part of this tho- they're brain-eating phantasms that parasitize human hosts and pilot the bodies like robots. But Ebrietas has Brainsucker eggs in her, which, if you get unlucky, activate once your blood is inhuman enough for the eggs to hatch in your brain. Old Ones have Vermin of their own, and in many more varieties. Gutworms may be mature Vermin, as they only appear in long-abandoned places like Loran, Cainhurst, and the poison pond on the way to Iosefka's.
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>>164738946
You only asked for a good compliment. That is the best.
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>>164748084
>this place boss was a joke. Summoned
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>>164719741
Won't that draw people out of FCs? I like spelunking as much as being fucked in the ass by you guys so I can't decide wich one to do.
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>>164748084
I think I understand this post. It's a satirical post isn't it?
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>>164748843
Perhaps, but I feel like the hardcore PvPers are probably not the same people as the Spelunkers

Besides, I think an effort should be made to invade the spelunkers. Asymmetrical PvP, a rare treat for all!
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>>164732965
Yes
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>>164721967
I killed everything in Old Yharnam, came back through Paarl's door and killed the werewolves and the patients on the way to the ladder and he was friendly. I did this on multiple playthroughs.
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I killed myself with the bloodletter in front of the doll. I was just compelled to do it. I felt like it might impress her
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>>164749256
Doll will always love you

But she'll never understand you
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>>164731000
It works, I just did it.
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>>164748843
The FC isn't tomorrow.
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>>164749256
yeah, you and 5,000 other players. I even see specters of people committing seppuku in front of the lifeless doll inside the healing church workshop
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Can I still go to DLC after I beat Mergo?
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>>164749905
yup but you'll miss out on some dialogue if you do the dlc after mergo
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>>164749905
Yes.
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>>164749939
>>164749960
Thanks, on my way to the DLC then.
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>watch some autist play bb
>whenever he aggroes an enemy he runs away from it for half of the whole level
>only attacks when the AI is at the edge of its leash
I just hope not all normies play fromsoft games like this. Can you even call an autist a normie?
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>>164749130
I'm happy to wear Hunter rune and try crashing a party
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>>164744756
>If you're just playing the game
If he's just playing the game without chalices in mind then anywhere between BL 70-90 with a +9 weapon and 19% gems is fine even for the DLC.
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>>164738805
>balanced
Look guys, I used a trendy word that I think is synonymous with "good"
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>>164749618
>Co-Op & PvP
>every Saturday 6pm ES
???
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>>164751543
The post mentioning the Spelunking club was made on Thursday, hence "tomorrow" would mean Friday (today)
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>>164751718
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>>164752162
I'm dumb. Timezones are a thing, though. I don't assume he would be silly enough to plan something during FC.
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>>164752162
I used EST because I live in that zone. It was still 11 when I made that post.
The FC and the time I decided on for the spelunking were intentionally left a full day apart.
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I don't believe the OP has any info on this so I'll ask; what are the best best non-elemental gems outside of the Chalice dungeons? DLC included.
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>>164752829
winter lanterns in fishing hamlet
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>>164752829
Winter Lanterns in Mensis (20% droplets) without DLC
Winter Lanterns in Fishy Ham (22% droplets) with DLC
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>>164752903
>>164752972
Near the Rakuyo, right? Thanks.
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>>164752792
So it's today, I can make a FRC then.
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>>164753034
yeah in the well. it's quick and easy farming if you have the orphan shortcut unlocked from hut lantern
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Is Rakuyo good for PvE? Most people seem to recommend to for PvP, so it makes me wonder.
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How do I talk to Dyura?
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>>164753695
Warp to the BSB boss area, reach Djura without attacking any of the beasts and you'll be able to talk to him.
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>>164753581
yeah its decent
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>>164753695
Kill BSB (he'll gatling at you but don't worry)
Meet Paarl (no need to kill him just see his heath bar)
Go to Djura from either of these boss roooms (make sure he can't see you until you're at the top of his tower)
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>>164753581
not bad, but it wont make it easy mode or anything compared to other weapons
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>make twink build
>bored of it within several hours after making it
who find these fun to play and why?
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>>164754074
>>164754000
I did just that but he can somehow detect me and is hostile.
Shouldn't I have killed his saw spear friend below before?
Do I miss out on anything by simply killing him?
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>>164754339
Did you surpass his ladder? If you get in front of his tower he'll detect you and start shooting, then you can't talk to him anymore.
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I've gotta say, coop in this is pretty fun, especially since phantoms have reduce health, pretty funny seeing my friends flaming corpse fall down the ladder to Djura.
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is the boom hammer a meme?
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>>164754738
yes me and my friends online often say "lol boom hammer" and we all laugh in unison
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>>164754738
>>164754738
str/arc boomhammer is good]kinda[/spoiler[
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So how do people feel about the threaded cane ? I've picked that for my first playthrough and it fucking cruised me through the streets of Yharnam and the Cathedral well so far.

The whip backstep R2 seems to be a pretty god tier source of damage so far.
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>>164754947
Best weapon in every game ever
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>>164754947
in whip form it gives the best visceral damage in the game (with high skilll)
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>>164754738
It's basically the tonitrus but only one attack gets a buff instead of duration. I hate it for PvP and in PvE its pretty much limited to priming it and doing charged heavy attacks to oneshot things

>>164754947
It's weirdly slower than the cleaver and does less damage but once you get your stats up it on par with if not better than the noob axe
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does the beast cutter have any proper advantages? in the whip like form its fine for the first hit but bythe time you recover the, the enmy you stagged with the first hit has alreadygot close enough to hit you
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>>164755027
>in whip form it gives the best visceral damage

You can Visceral with the whip form ? I've always swapped back to regular form under the impression that you could only do it in standard.

Well fuck.
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>>164754947
Some people say it does low damage but it hits rather well. The crowd control is amazing if you know how to do it and untricked is very fast. Since it scales mostly with Skl and barely uses stamina you don't need anything else besides Vit until late game.
It's a SKL weapon for skilled players.
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>>164755183
the more you know
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>>164755180
You're too close, gain some distance while tricked.
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>>164755240
i think people say that because when you get to amelia and have a +3 cane you do like 52 damage per hit
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>>164755027
>in whip form
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>>164755342
im pretty sure im as far as i can be, maybe im misjudging it
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>>164755240
people say it does low damage because it does low damage

>>164755180
it is garbage whose novelty wears off au
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>>164755414
maybe his AR changes when he tricks it :^)
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>arc build beast butter
>destroy absolutly everything
on strength build i can understand why its could be seen as bad, but on an arc build with you fire gems its great
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>>164755559
this was meant for >>164755474 but
>beast butter

>>164755414
something to do with the mechanics, i have no idea, but thats just how it goes
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least favorite music in the game?

>keeper of the old lords
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>>164755474
>shitting on best cutter
Like other Str weapons, it's slow but hits hard. The tricked mode has one of the longest range you can get and untricked is a fast club that can easily stunlock most enemies. You don't even need to convert like >>164755559 said, get one blunt gem and it destoys everything without relying on one mode like other weapons. The serrated bonus also makes it a good choice for Camera Beast and together with the blunt it does short work of Hotdog. The R2s are godly and the trick attack is great for PvP.
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>>164755978
>tfw the range on the r2
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>>164755559
absolutely not, no
cutter is only on par with other weapons if it's got blunts
it's a handicap if it's got 27.2's
if you're using it on an arc build, you're using a watered down version of it with 27.2's
don't waste your levels on being able to use it on an arc build

>>164755637
>something to do with mechanics
what are you doing?
the only way weapons affect visceral damage is through gems
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>>164756335
>cutter is only on par with other weapons if it's got blunts
I use a Heavy, a 27% and the only usable blunt I got, a 30%, and this thing hits like a japanese truck. I can only wonder what a full 32% blunt set up can do.
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>>164756335
its something to do with the mode scaling with skill differently or some shit
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>>164756335
tricked mode*
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>>164756561
and I use mine with an abyssal and two 31.5s
it's not overwhelming

>>164756610
no
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>>164756780
being this much of a retard
tricked attacks give +09 when normal then additional +0.15 skill scaling
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just started the game, never played a souls game either

any tips 4 me. went with the violent past
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>>164756780
+0.9 when untricked, additional +0.15 when tricked*

this then takes it above rakuyo in terms of scaling when tricked. this also ends up with it being the best viscerals in the game when tricked
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>>164757161
get out of this thread and enjoy the game
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>>164757161
Just go out and kill a few beasts, it's for your own good...
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>>164757161
Just enjoy the game. Everyone who plays a souls game for the first time just goes to forums or the wiki and ruins it for themselves. You're supposed to feel confused. You're supposed to feel like you're bad when you start out.
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>>164757161
Locked on makes you dash, no lock on makes you roll.

Fucking remember that and choose accordingly, it's not always best to dash.
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>>164756335
>the only way weapons affect visceral damage is through gems
kek nobody is stupid enough to think that
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>>164756780
>the range
>the fact it can go through walls and any other thing thats meant to be solid like piillars etc. that weapons usually bounce off even in tricked form
>good damge
why would you not use this
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>>164757161
Be aggressive. B. E. Aggressive.
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>>164757528
When is it ever better to roll? I chose not to lock on to certain enemies for camera and aiming purposes, but I have never not locked on just to roll.
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Why is fighting Abhorrent Beast so fun?
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>>164758417
It isn't.
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executioners r gay
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>>164758417
Because he is a beast but is still self-aware.
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>>164758520
>>
>delusional executioner
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Vilebloods and Executioners are gay for each other.
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>theres people who dont roll through ever urn they see
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>just killed micolash
>gehrman is still sitting in the workshop yapping on about going to old yharnam

what an old fart he is
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is it gehrman that does the blood administering at the start of the game?
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>>164758520
shut your fucking mouth you little vileblood faggot, come say shit like that in cathedral ward and see how fast i can drive this wheel up your colon
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>>164759038
no
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>>164759064
>using wheels as weapons
get out of the stoneage fuckboy
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>>164758785
>>164759064
See
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>>164759064
If you a real executioner you'll use that shit fully revved up
>But muh health
Martyr yourself to oneshot filth
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>>164759162
>implying my golden wheel couldn't snap your feminine little homo katana in half just by grazing it
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>>164759137
then who?
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>>164759426
guy is called "blood minister". it's unknown who he is but feel free to speculate, it's what miyazaki (god rest his soul) would have wanted
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anyone want to go through the hunters nightmare with me? could use some company
ill ring at the lamp, pass is spicy
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>>164759402
CAINHURST SWORD STRONG FOLDED OVER 1000 TIMES JUST LIKE CAINHURST CARRIAGE OVER 30 YEARS AND STILL ON ROAD
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>>164759618
>1000
bitch please, we're not peasents. its probably like 10,000 times
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>>164759615
you still ringing mate?
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>>164760291
just stumbled upon a fuckin boss fight so uh
not right now
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>>164749608
How?
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>>164760291
oookay that was different
ringing again
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>>164760662
first lamp yeah?
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Alright what the fuck is wrong.
I got the cursed and defiled Chalice but not the defiled Chalice. How the fuck does that even work?
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>>164760823
yep
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I'm doing an arcane build, and using LHB/Tonitrus right now. And despite LHB having like a hundred more attack rating Tonitrus seems to do more damage.

Are enemies just so much weaker to bolt than to fire?
Or is it the physical part of Tonitrus attack that hurts them?
Or is Tonitrus' L1 buff just that powerful?
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>>164760915
Defiled Pthu doesn't count as opening a dungeon with a Cursed Rite.

>>164760963
Tonitrus' L1 buff is good.
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>>164760915
There's only ONE Cursed and Defiled chalice.
Cursed and Defiled are also the names of two separate additional rites you can apply to Root Chalice dungeons.
The fixed one is called Cursed and Defiled, but it only applies the Cursed modifier afaik.
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Going for skill/blt, my options for weapons are pretty limited to bowblade, rifle spear, and reiterpallasch that would benefit from both right? And stuff like the canon or Gatling gun if I just want raw damage

Speaking of which is better, the canon or church canon?
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>>164760823
welp
ill ring at the second lamp this time?
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>>164760947
>>164761297
yeah
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>>164760915
There is no "Defiled Chalice".

What problem are you having? Have you got the chalice but don't understand why you can't open an FRC via glyph?
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>>164761197
Depends on the build. The Cannon has better flat damage and doesn't rely on Bloodtinge. On the other hand, the Church Cannon has a Bloodtinge reliance, but lower bullet cost by two or so.
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>>164761067
>>164761357
No Defiled Rite*
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>>164761357
>>164761067
>>164761048
Reading the speed running guide and it says defiled chalice
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>>164761297
kek
reringing
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>>164761479
the one that dropped from bloodletting beast? it's called cursed & defiled in the european version iirc
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>>164761479
Yeah Defiled Pthumeru's Chalice is called "Defiled Chalice", and its Root Chalice is called "Cursed and Defiled Root Chalice" but only applies a Rite called Curse.

I don't how you could possiblt get Defiled Pthu's Root chalice without having Def Pthu's.
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>>164735821
Thanks this did the trick! Finally beat her!
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>>164761297
fuck sorry
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>>164761564
Hope you are right

>>164761606
Mine says "Cursed and Defiled Chalice"
Which is why I asked my original question. Cause I can't find a chalice that says Defiled Chalice
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>>164761840
its all good! ill rering
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>>164761874
if it dropped from bloodletting beast, it's the right chalice
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>>164761906
I am pretty sure it dropped from the bloodletting beast. I didn't check precisely cause I went to Ailing next. And didn't notice till I beat it.
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>>164761840
oh god
reringing
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>>164761892
lol just as the cutscene played
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was Loran a Pthumerian area or a different thing entirely?
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>>164762074
thanks so much! if you want we could do the next area?
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>>164762531
alright, where are you ringing?
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What's the point in odd physical gems? Especially top-tier cursed odd physical gems?

The only use for them I can think of is on extremely low-level twink builds, and even then odd arcane/fire/bolt versions are better

Is there an extremely niche weapon and/or build where they odd physical gems are relevant?
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>Spend 10 fucking minutes doing 20 damage a swing to Simon
>run out of vials and die when he has 1/12th of his health left

Aaaaaaa
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Whats the lowest level you think a player of slightly above average skill could go for the Church Pick? It would require beating Ludwig and traversing half the DLC
Obviously it opens up just after Amelia but that seems like just asking to get my shit kicked in, unless I summon for Ludwig I suppose then just run through the research hall.
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>>164762396
Pthumerian. Watchers, undead giants and keepers are present in Loran too.
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>>164762396
Don't do this

The Christmasfags are pure
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how do I kill the fucking crow of cainhurst?
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>>164762787
+9 weapon with mensis gems. Level is irrelevant. That or just get a buddy to carry you
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>>164762572
ill go for the magic one this time haha
reringing
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>>164762939
He can't leave the cathedral

Cheese w threaded cane/any ranged weapon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YxaaGgTQYM
This shit speaks to me ATM, farming autism korean gems is getting to me.
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>>164762939
Become a parry god or outspace his attacks + punish

Don't be a cheesing fggt
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Are there other buffs like serrated weapons doing extra damage against beasts? Like one kind of weapons does extra damage against ayys or kin?
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>>164763253
Ayys/kin are weak as fuck to thrust damage
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>>164763253
>doing
thrust attacks and lighting fuck ayyliens and kin up
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>>164762939
Git Gud
Patience is the key. There are a few moves that he telegraphs the fuck off. Attack him during those moves. Keep dodging till then. Or cheese him with poison knives.
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>>164762975
Probably the latter. I hate that some of the weapons are restricted so late in the game that they're only really viable for NG+.
I may return here and ask for help because tfw no friends with ps4
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>>164763253
There's serrated and righteous. Righteous affects Cainhurst enemies. Check the OP under damage calculation and look at the weapon moveset spreadsheet for particulars.
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>>164763210
Watcha farming anon?

t. gemfag

POST RAREST GEMS
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>>164763480
Cursed Heavy Abyssal Blood Gem Radial
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>>164763458
Game used to have boxes that carry over characters. I have zero fucking idea why they patched it out.
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>>164763327
>>164763393
>>164763471
Thank(You)
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>>164763592
w/ +15 flat attack?

Farmed two of those on my whirligig/saw cleaver build. Took me maybe 30-50 tries

Good luck and may oodles of gems come your way
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>>164763458
Just do what I did rush the Saif then go back to the main game, use the saif through Mensis, then go back to the DLC and get the Pick and use it for the rest of the game and chalices.
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>>164763698
Yeah. For my whirligig saw too.
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>Reading all the chalice descriptions

I want more, lads. I want a depth 5 Hintertomb, I want the surface of Loran, I want a "Forbidden Forest" outdoors-type labyrinth.

I want more Bloodborne.
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>>164764296
my roommate was telling me how bloodborne was mentioned at CES so he is convinced that there is going to be some kind of announcement.

But they're done. it's over. FROM said they're moving on from souls. Bloodborne is so incredible though. the best of all the games. too bad we will always want more.
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>>164762572
oh god im so sorry
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>>164763053
well im retarded
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>>164764483
no your fault lmao, ring at the lamp and we'll do the boss?
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>>164764484
ill rering where you died?
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>using blood vials when invading

i seriously hope you guys don't do this
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>>164764484
see >>164764683
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>>164764582
ah alright
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>>164764683
oops meant to put see >>164764582
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>>164763658
It was a glitch and made twinking way too easy
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>>164764448
>FROM said they are moving on from souls
No they didn't
Miyazaki said he is done with DaS but others are free to pick it back up if they want to. Also, keep in mind that Miyazaki and FROM consider Bloodborne and DaS to be completely different series. I'm sure you can expect more souls-like games from FROM.
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>>164764997
At least let weapons carry over then.
There is plenty lack in bloodborne desu.
Like other items not auto replenishing
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>>164764901
that was easy lmao
next one?
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>>164765014
psshhhh yeah naahh nigga haha lmao too good baka
D-don't get my hopes up ;_;
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>>164765258
alright, you can ring at that same lamp i think
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>>164765314
its crossed out, ill try dying to her
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>>164765129
>replying to lucy
>ever
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>>164764742
Why wouldn't I? Healing is actually balanced in BB. You can even parry it.

>>164765129
I wish things would auto-replenish too, or at least that you had access to your storage from lamps.
>>
The fuck is a twink build, skill?
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>>164765314
we're breezing through the dlc lmao
wheres the next?
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>>164765763
twink builds are (the meme meta is currently 43) for invading low level people and fucking them up
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>>164764448
What if the announcement is a BB PC port?
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>>164765932
I won't lie this is the first thing that popped into my head. I can see it happening since in order for that to happen with DeS, it'd be a nightmare and probably very costly/lengthy
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>>164765907
can do the next area mate as im about to go get some food, but that was fun
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>>164765932
When will you retards learn Bloodborne is Sonys IP, that game sells consoles, they will not port the game to PC.
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>>164766040
ah no worries, thanks a bunch!
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>>164765932

I think it'd be pretty cool. Memes about people hacking aside, I think it'd be interesting what people could do with how chalice dungeons are generated.
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>>164766026
and FROM wouldnt want /bbg/ turning more into /dsg/ with people with different platforms memeing each other. FROM care about /bbg/ obivously :^)
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>>164766153
WHAT LAMP I WANT TO HELP
>>
66y84fwb
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>>164766552
Whats in this glyph my man?
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>>164766618
the holy grail
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>>164766618
guidance 3
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>>164766618
Guidance 3
Bonus room before the third boss
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>About to go to NG+
>Think of any NPC's still alive
>Skeptical man
>Go Milkweed form and grab my unupgraded Whirligig
This is the last thing I want him to see before he dies
Anyone else do stuff like this?
>>
>>164766026
How many Japan Studio games are on PC?
>>
holy fFUCK can somebody help me kill Eileen's last hunter NPC in great cathedral? This guy parries like a bitch

pass is wew i'm at the cathedral ward
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>>164767782
oh wait NEVERMIND I CCAN'T RING THE FUCKINB ELLL AAAaaaaAAA
A
A
A
A
A
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>>164767782
Can't summon for him, my dude. He isn't a boss and you can only summon if there's a boss in the area. And summons can't fight NPCs anyway.

Best thing to do is cheese him fierce, he can't actually leave the cathedral, so bait him down to the doorway and stand outside while you hit him with a long range weapon or poison knives,he will eventually started walking back in, just guide him out again.
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>>164714149
>>164715183
>>164715409
http://martinansc.deviantart.com/
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Tfw you have a blood fetish and you see this qt
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>Going for skill/blt
>can barely justify Simons bowblade over the cane, especially when untricked they feel super similar

Feels bad, maybe the reiterpallasch will be more fun
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>>164766248
oops went to eat dinner
if youre still there, im at fishing hamlet now
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>>164768214
Reiterpallasch is pretty based desu
I think its really underrated, its god-like against human enemies
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>>164768654
Nothing in the game compares to getting a transformation parry after a poke, the most stylish thing possible in the game
And with Cainhurst fashion?
HNNNNNG
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Whats the "best" curse to roll with on the hamlet lantern droplets?
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>>164769058
Increased stamina consumption or lowered durability
Anything but Attack down or HP drain
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>>164768827
that bait and parry was how i was able to first beat the bloody crow of cainhurst
its a fantastic weapon
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>>164762939
3xR1 tricked Ludwig with Bolt Paper, dodge, repeat after she ends her combo
Worked for me today
>>
2 things,

1. Can I ever open that door next to the chest down the stairs near the start of cathedral ward that just says "closed" when you interact with it?

2. What's a better choice, 20 end or 50 vit? The difference seems to be 20 more stam or 96 more hp
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>>164769819
50 Vit
you dont need more than 15 end. 20 is just luxury
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>>164769890
That's what I was thinking too but wanted a second opinion, thanks.
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>>164765014
>>164764448
Iirc they're obligated two more games with Sony when they made that contract.

So after Bloodborne's success I'm sure Sony is gonna want some more of that formula, either in Demon's Souls or Bloodborne.
>>
>>164769472
>lowered durability
>60.8
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>>164768023
>Best thing to do is cheese him fierce
>he doesn't punish his shooting
>he doesn't parry him at every edgy move
>he doesn't crush him with his wheel
>he doesn't unzip him with his own Chikago
>he doesn't make him sudoku after showing him your arcane might
I want shitters to leave
>>
Anyone wanna help me through Nightmare Frontier? I'm at the lamp right after you exit the lecture hall. BL60

Pass is wew
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>>164770830
omw
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>>164770830
Ringing
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>>164770830
if you need help with amy I'll ring at the fog in 20
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>>164770830
>>164770930
i'm ringing too
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>>164770930
>>164771101
sorry i just got invaded and wrecked by a shitter named dex
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>>164771186
Are you ringing again? Cause i'm not finding you
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>>164771186
still ringing?
>>
>>164771478
>>164771489

i got some1 :(
>>
>want to play BB
>Yahar'gul, Nightmare Frontier or Nightmare of Mensis
>don't want to play BB
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>>164771664
Frontier is optional, Mensis is easy and short as fuck
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>>164771664
you can run through those areas super fast if you don't like them
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>>164771519
>mfw I was the first to respond and someone poached my spot
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>>164771664
Mensis is easy, Frontier isn't bad either, Yahar'gul sucks even when you know exactly where everything is
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>>164771664
>doesn't want to play some of the best parts of the game
>>
What kind of dungeons can I get from SRRC quick search?
I never put a root or a sinister chalice on this playthrough, but I've seem to have got a randomized pthumeru dungeon with a sinister bellwoman.
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Just started a slow run and I'm just surprised about how many things I was ignoring.
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>>164772292
what's a slow run?
>>
>>164772472
A run where you don't rush through everything.
>>
You know I never noticed until I used the monocular but the doll has pretty big hands. Also it's kinda a shame you don't get to actually see her wear the hair ornament

Was Gehrman just 2shy to talk to lady maria and made a doll to look like her and inhabit the dream?
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>want to make beastclaw build
>have to go through 80% of the game to get my build
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>>164771664
Yahar'gul part 1 is bad, given that any low-level player will get flattened by the copious amounts dogs. Part 2 isn't as much of a shit show, but still painful.

The Frontier is easy after getting the elevator running, and you only need poison-proof attire, and frenzy-proof attire. I wouldn't even bother going for everything.

Mensis can be tricky, just use the Deep Sea rune until you're in the building, and go after the bell ringers to silence invaders. Also, spiders are vulnerable to gunshots, in the same vein as dogs. Besides, Micolash is in Mensis, making the whole trip worthwhile.
>>
>doing lv.4 challenge run
>Micolash is pushing my shit in, I literally fucking can't
>end up leveling to 40
>tfw you're shit at your favorite game
>>
>>164772681
The doll was made after Maria's suicide
>>
>Have two bloodtinge gems
>they're circle and thus can't be used on the bowblade
>don't feel like grinding through chalices yet again just to get an uncanny/lost version

T-thanks
>>
>>164772772
I really don't know how you guys can fuck up this fight.
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>>164772736
you just need to kill amelia and then amygdala?
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>>164772923
>bowblade
>grinding through chalices
???
>>
>>164772923
>don't feel like grinding through chalices
You don't have to, all you need is one story chalice.
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>>164772962
You can only get the ritual blood needed in the lower pthumerian chalices I believe
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>>164772958
It's the fucking CFB. I know you're supposed to wait until it explodes and then dodge towards the caster, but when he starts spamming it, it's game over
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>>164773217
just shoot him you beastly idiot
>>
Lmao wow, sorry Gud Hunter, was too far in animation to turn back from that last attack. ringing again
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>>164772740
There's only like one dog before the second lamp. Then two after it and I think two more in the hypogean gaol area. Yahar'gul isn't even that bad: run to the bell bitches, kill them, turn around and fight the weakened villagers, rinse and repeat. Street level just requires not being dicked on by corpse-boxes, which are ez pz 1v1. There's tons of good shit in Yahar'gul and the design of the level is pretty good. Triple gank spank can be a wall for some people, but they really aren't too awful either if you know how to manage multiple enemies.

Frontier is easy after the elevator because it takes pretty much the entire level to get there. You either run to Amy from there or go into the poison swamp with nothing particularly useful in it (unless you're going for the plat).
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>>164773043
>>164773082
Shit really? I didn't see any messengers in my first run through of pthumerian chalice, guess they're behind an illusionary wall or something
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>>164755414
>>164756335

When in whip mode the Threaded Cane gets a 0.15 increase in SKL scaling, this is why whip mode does more damage at higher SKL levels than Cane mode despite modifers actually being worse. But this obviously does not translate when Cane is converted to fire/bolt/arcane.

The 0.15 scaling buff also adds onto visceral SKL scaling (which is already absurdly high) it's not huge, and we all know how useless +15 Sharp Gems are, but Viscerals operate on much larger numbers than regular swings so a small proportional increase is still a fairly large number, and it's free damage.

>>164760915
In American version of the game it's just called Defiled Chalice, I know this because I watched ENB's stream. In EU, Australia and maybe other places it's called Cursed and Defiled Chalice, or something along those lines. It's weird.

There's a few other things that change between versions, like One Third Umbilical Cord (NA) is Third Umbilical Cord. There's also innocuous spelling differences like mum/mom and foetid/Fedid
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>>164773607
Isz
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>>164773672
There's one in Pthumeru too
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>>164772962
I need to get the blood, and kill Laurence.
At least I'm having fun with the Boom Hammer.
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Doing Nightmare of Mensis now, pass is wew only got about 40 minutes!
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>play this game the first time
>played demon's, dark and dark ii before
>think this game is really difficult

>start a new playthrough with a new character
>breeze through the game easily
>wonder why I had trouble in the first place

I think it's probably the easiest soulsborne besides Demon's Souls. I haven't played Dark Souls III yet though.
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>>164762975
> Mensis gems
> wants Church Pick as early as possible,
> thus it's assumed he wants to use the church pick to go through most of the game with

Do depths 1-3 Chalice's early and a setup like pic related. It's not even hard to do a bl4 since the hardest boss you have to kill is Depth 3 Watchers.
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>>164774013
Anyone? ringing at mergo's loft: base

I wanna kill the big daddy/mommy spider
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>>164774502
An average player is going to struggle with that though. He wasn't asking about what good players could do.
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>>164774750
>I wanna kill the big daddy/mommy spider
?
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>>164772605
>He rushed stuff
>Ever

The only stuff I rush is the Central Yharnam/Old Yharnam/Cathedral Ward because I've seen -literally- everything to be seen in those places and I like to get my chosen weapon as soon as possible. This habit didn't even start until I'd replayed for the 10th time.
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Is BB playable after few beers? Dunno if I shoud try through Mensis or do another attempt or Martyr or just watch anime and go to bed.
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>>164774991
the giant spider with all the tiny ones you dumb cunt
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>>164775285
Everything is playable after a few beers. What are you? Casual?

Seriously though. Until you're properly "drunk" you should only be improving at games relative to how much alcohol you consume. Lessened inhibition and increased confidence are extremely useful in action games.
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>>164775317
>the giant spider with all the tiny ones
I'll pass.
>dumb cunt
Reported.
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>>164775246
When you finish the game about 20 times it becomes boring going to all places.
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>>164775479
are you really gonna report me? :3

awww hehe
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just opened an Isz FRC, anyone wanna go spelunking? pass: koskosm
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>>164775626
what's your PSN so I can blacklist you from my games
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>>164775732
SRRCing
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Fucking hell you guys are dumb. It's called the defiled chalice in some versions and cursed and defiled in others. A quick Google was all you needed
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Motor skills are deteriorating after alcohol. I can already see this as I'm making mistakes typing this
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>>164775732
Sure, anon. Booting up
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>>164775974
but i told him that already so don't get your panties in an uproar
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Man chikagay is so gay for chalice dungeons
>does no dmg in untricked form
>get 1 shot because a bit of health is always missing
>can't put fire or bolt paper on it
>always have to heal in tricked form because the fight takes so long because if low damage
>get hit more oftwn when I'm slowed because of healing

>Ged gud and dond ged hid X-DD
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>>164775797
okay its
hehe_:3_silly_boy
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>>164776154
That''s why you should have used this.
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>>164776236
no seriously, what's your psn. I don't wanna ever help someone who asks for help then treats people like shit
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>>164775829
>>164775978
I'm at the first lamp ringing, does it take a while with SRRC?
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>>164776154
i really hated using the chiklatto because of hp drain. made me feel so stressed and i always played with an eye on the hp bar. glad i left that edgeblade in the trash
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>>164776361
Yeah, might be better to post the glyph
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>>164776154
You know you're supposed to open / end combos with your L1, right? Keep it untricked when you're not attacking and the health drain is non existent
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>>164776452
knfisyji

first lamp, pass "koskosm"
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>>164776154
BLT builds are fucking awful for PvE. The feeling of happiness when I used the Bloodletter was the high point of that shitty character.
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>>164776685
Doesn't show up
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>>164776685
Have to set your chalice to Open
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>>164775469
meant for >>164775976
just to prove my point it's bad idea
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>>164776721
>BLT builds are fucking awful for PvE
You can shoot the shit out of everything, how is this awful?
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>>164776834
>>164776808
I am an utter retard

doing that and ringing sorry anons
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>>164776321
I'll try it
>>164776573
The attack ->L1 feels way too slow to not get hit by bosses :/
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>>164777024
Don't fret over it, anon
Also, dining
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>>164776893
Bowblade and Bloodletter are the only things I enjoyed even then I didn't like using only one mode of the weapon. Guess BLT is just not meant for me.
>>
OODLES
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>>164777024
Is it set to worldwide, or did someone took my spot?
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>>164777489
Still only two of us here
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>>164777489
worldwide, how many cooperators can there be? already got one anon
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>>164777313
FOR
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>>164777564
>>164777563
I'm ringing at the first lamp and I'm not getting anything.
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>>164777690
Silenced then started ringing again.
Feel free to invade if you can't help :^)
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>>164777690
Could be a slow connection or some other net issue. Were you able to connect to others earlier today?
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>>164777794
>>164777813
Lemme restart.
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>>164777891
I can see your ghost ringing but that's it
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>>164777964
Yeah, I also saw someone with the Burial Blade.
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>>164778024
That's the summoned anon. I'll wait 5 more mins and we'll start clearing. Sorry if you can't join anon
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>>164778170
No worries, the pass IS koskosm, right?
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>>164778248
Yeah, that's the one
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>>164778170
since the second anon is bugging, I'm trying too
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>>164778318
Oh well, the game hates me, if you find anything note worthy let me now.
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Is the beast claw a strength weapon?
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>>164778492
It has equal scaling in str and skill
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>>164778492
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Klz0V7xCDyfbuGMoi0zGNAyL_VT5TUS6WiUme_uB9Rg/htmlview#
Go on weapon values.
I think it's also in rhe OP
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Oh kosm, i didn't expect that and 2 frames an hour

Ringing again
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>>164778492
Use it with 50Str/25Skl, put a Heavy Abyssal in it and RRREEEEE at will.
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>tfw not using guns on a bloodtinge build
>>
I didn't ask for this
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>>164777085
It might feel like it, but it's not.

I dunno man, you do you, but there's the answer to your problem
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I'm guessing we gotta wreck that giant 2 more times to progress, right?
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>>164779737
That, or we can SRRC. Whichever you prefer
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Holy shit, crushing Ludwig's head after the fight is a sweet feeling. Probably the best I've felt after any boss in any Souls games.
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>>164779816
Don't mind doing it again, up to you anons
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>>164775285
I used to play Dark Souls while tripping. I wasn't good at it, but I did it.
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>>164779925
Nice, I'll hit the lever and ring at the layer then
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>>164779925
I've done it on my side but glad to help.
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>>164779925
Ringing at the L1 lamp for Undead Giant--same password as well
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>>164779976
Ringing before the boss fog
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Ayy /bbg/,

I'm in the mood for some co-op action. Anyone wanna run through NG++ fishing village and maybe some more or alternatively NG around BL 60?
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>>164779842
Never go full beast
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>>164779842
>feeling happy about mercy killing a broken hero reduced to a hideous beast
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how long until fc start? GMT so youre some amount of hours behind
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>>164780442
Got him, thanks m8
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>>164780735
Wasn't me kek, i'll ring at the second lamp
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>>164766552
>66y84fwb
No but seriously what's in there? Why bother posting a random glyph?
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>>164780831
i think he's meemeeing you
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>>164780543
yeah?
pass?
>>
So what happened to Ludwig? He went insane going after the Moonlight sword?
>>
I just lost 1.5 million echoes to a normal enemy in the defiled chalice dungeon, feel free to point and laugh at me.
>>
ever since i got to the forest ive been super lost
i feel like ive missed so many items and shit
i just beat amygdala
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>>164781134
Just checked and that's a legit gylph.
>>
>exploring that poison area in woods since I always just rush through
>hit by worms
>controller stops inputting properly, character just wiggles in place
>die

well then
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>>164781327
What do you prefer, NG++ or NG?

pass: coop
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anyone wanna help me give lower pth undead giant the business?
password is giant
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>>164733309
What's your stats?
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>kept hearing about how difficult these giants guarding rakuyo were
>looking forward to a real challenge to get the weapon
>they fight you one at a time
>the first one walks with his back exposed whilst getting the other one letting you murder him
>the second one is a nerfed version

well that was anti climatic. They can even be fucking parried
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>>164781390
I just lost 55k at early game because a character spammed one attack over and over that I for some reason couldn't roll away from. Lets point and laugh at eachother
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>>164782103
>they fight you one at a time
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>>164781875
anyone?
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>>164782263
they do
he runs off to get his buddy when got low but he had like a quarter health left and it gives you a free 5 seconds to murder his back, which killed him.

I cant believe they let you Bone blade them too - i did that first but they glitched inside of each other and couldn't hit one another
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are there any decent Triangular physical gems outside of chalice dungeons?

Im using BoM and Rakuyo and the triangle gems are dogshit
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So what weapons can be used for a quality build, or should it always be either 50/min or min/50 as so many Anons think

As far as I'm aware
>Strength
Pure Strength=Big Axe, Ludwigs Big Blade, Big Kirkhammer, Big Whirligiggle Saw, Big Beast Cutter, Amygdalas Big Arm, Big Fists of Gratia, Unarmed Badass

BLT/Arc combo=Big Boomhammer, Big Parasite (Untricked scales w/Str), Logarius' Big Wheel, Big Tonitrus, Big Moonlight Sword, Big Bloodletter

>Skill
'Pure Skill'=Threaded Memecane, Blades of Memes, Memehunter Saif, Burial meme, Pick and Church your Meme

BLT/Arc combo=Memekuyo, Chikameme, Memerpallasch, Rifling Meme Spear, Simemes Bowblade


>Qual?
Saw Cleaver/Spear, Steak Driver, Beast Claws...Anything else?
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sitll ringing for lower pth undead giant, password is giant
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>>164782640
Droplet shape gems fit in any slot. Kill Winter Lanterns in Fishing Hamlet for 22.3%
>>
ringing at L3

I'll make a pthumeru frc later after I get the fucking red jelly
>>
How the cunt do I beat Ludwig??????????????????????
>>
Was Iosefka trying to fuck that ayyy she has trapped there?
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>>164782768
best quality point distribution tends to be 50 Str and 25 Skl. In Vanilla I used LHB and the Axe on such a build.
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>>164783321
Try to stay to the left of him during phase 1 and behind him in phase 2.

When he jumps to the ceiling, just pick the direction that has the longest distance, and sprint in a straight line.

Big weapons + BBPs also ruin his day.
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>>164783349
the ayylien is potentially the real iosefka, the fake iosefka takes over after you kill gascoigne
>>
Is the boom hammer any good? I'm thinking of cosplaying Reinhardt
>>
Henryk's Hunter Cap, Khaki Haori, Old Hunter Gloves, Yahar'gul Black Trousers is peak /fa/ try it out lads
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>>164783978
arguably one of the worst weapons in the game.
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still ringing at lower pth undead giant, password is giant
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>>164784028
Not bad
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>>164782640
>Droplets from Winter Lanterns in Upper loft
>Normal dungeons often do fine, FRC is for Korean PvPers

>>164781512
Just follow the main path. You can deviate to get nice items/runes but always remember how to get back to the path. Also, along the cliff in part 2 (You will know when you get there), there is a ledge you can do a jump to, and on the other side there is an orange KKK mask-most beckoners don't know this, putting it out there

>>164781359

He was the first, and most horrendous beast, as he was like some sort of cleric prime (Church members became the most ghastly, horrendous, unsightly beasts). He wielded the HMS when he was a human, guided by the little beings of light, but when he became a beast, he forgot who he was-eventually ending up in the nightmare as a blood drunk hunter, turned beast. When you pwn him in his first phase, he remebers who he was, yet retains his beastly violence, then phase 2. After the fight, he fully remembers who he was and is able to talk to you, with different dialog based on your gear (Executioner, Vileblood etcetc)

>>164780616
But Mooooom he hit me first

>>164781390
I beat the first blood werewolf with my bare hands, then died to the first townsfolk who was lying down-I didn't notice him or the ladder
Twice
>>
>>164784162
please sent help :^)
>>
Hope you got em, anon!
>>
re-ringing at l3, let's bash this fuck's head in
>>
Looks ike that other anon got a heart attack or something. Anyone up for NG++ Cainhurst?

PASS: PURGE
>>
why are vilebloods so much better than executioners?
>>
>>164785135
Where you ringin?
>>
>>164785218
at the lamp
>>
>He doesn't main the boom hammer
>>
>>164785328
if there is any enemy I despise in this game its these flea motherfuckers
>>
Hang on, Emma. Need to restock, brb.

PROTIP: Hit them in the sack.
>>
isz anon here, I'm taking a break after losing 5.5mil echoes and dying like a fucking faggot

i'll make it up to you with some ihyll later
>>
When you coop, a fog wall appears to lock you in a certain area, does that fogwall disappearwhen you enter a boss fight?
>>
>>164785585
Alright, it was good fun while we were at it. Thanks for the run, anon.
>>
executioners r gay
>>
>>164785508
They really aren't that bad if you have a large weapon, like the whirly or LHB
>>
I shouldn't have mindlesly grabbed that.
>>
What should I do for a skill build after 50 vit 50 skill?
>>
How do I brown hair?
>>
>>164785917
ill rering in a moment heading to the dream for a sec
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Someone wanna help me with logarius?
pass is bbg
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>>164783978
>>164783978
Good, but like LogWheel, its much more different to most weapons in the game. You need to trick after every hit to make it worth it, but it is really worth it. Charged L2 does ludicrous amounts of damage when tricked, because it often deals the splash and the direct at the same time, much like the Church Cannon. The splash is (also) still splash at the end of the day for groups. Can be gemmed for strength of Arc depending on build, but you probs want to go Str

Tldr=L1 mash, and get used to Charged R2's

Reinhardt? Lemme guess-Fire Paper Hunters Axe/ Boom Hammer w/R2 for Ult, Fire Paper Rifle Spear Charged r2 for Charge, Molotovs/ Blacksky Eye/ Flamesprayer for Firestrike and Loch shield with Helmetless Executioner garb/Bone Ash gloves+Trousers. Make it 98BL, I actually want to see this in /bbg/ FC
>>
just getting towards the end of the dlc i feel

Was the dude who kept showing up simon? I really worried i'd fucked up his questline, but i found his gear on a different corpse than his, he gave me the bowblade.

Is the Constable gear referring to the League guy? If so he sounds like a fucking monster, yet he never came across like that in the main game. I'm basing this off the Whirligig description so i guess it's pretty clear cut

What was the point of the japanese hunter dude? Was it just a reference i'm not getting? He just sat in his cell and did nothing really.

Is there any real lore behind Brador or is he just an old hunter that went a bit too fucking crazy?
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Give me a dandy name for a new character! Will go arcane, probably arcane/ strength.
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What next?
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>>164785739
EMBRACE CORRUPTION
>>
>>164786135
Bill
>>
why does alfred kill himself?
>>
>>164786135
Tim
>>
>>164783978
It's a bit repetitive because mostly you want to do tricked charged R2 or jumping attacks for the knockdown and explosion, but I think the damage is okay

Everything works PvE though
>>
>>164786432
To become a martyr, like his mancrush
>>
NEW!
>>164786469
>>164786469
>>164786469
>>164786469
>>164786469
>>
>>164786130
i feel like simon was just like you, in the hunters nightmare with his sanity intact trying to get to orphan and end the nightmare.

yeah, valtr is pretty whacky but still cool.

jap guy is one of the madara brothers(twins?).
>>
just started the dlc, after a quick peek at the wiki it seems there's missable stuff with the npc's just like the base game

can someone give me the dos and donts?
>>
>>164786260
>>164786452
I think I'll go with Bill
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>>164786058
Where you at?
>>
>>164786648
fog
>>
>>164786197
str to 11 to use loch shield for aesthetic
>>
Still ringing, Emma. Will arrive at Logarius shortly.
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>>164786810
Are you set to worldwide? Also move to the new thread.
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>>164785924
1.End to where you are happy
2.Pump rest in Arc for some tools (Mostly for Beast Roar if you can)
3.Extra Vit or Skl

>>164786130
Yes thats Simone.

League guy is nice in game but a closet foodie for Beast-He is in the Forbidden woods Windmill shortcut-near to the lamp

Jap hunter is for killing for fashionable gear. Also his mumblings is confirmation for the main theory/reason why the DLC exists

Brador used to assassinate/kill the first cleric beasts of the church when they were babby sized, imitating them in his armour to keep the peace. However as they grew, he couldn't hide it any more and had to go public. At that point, he kinda had a headstart on all the other hunters when it came to killing beasts/people before they became beasts (think Amelia pre-battle) so he went blood addled early (Combined with the fact his weapon is based on blood, no surprise) and killed himself in the waking/real world. He is speculated to have been the first real hunter in the nightmare and spent most of his time alone until he locked himself into a cell, alone for all eternity

>>164786197

3 in End, 1 in Vit and 1 in Skl
>>
>Behold! A paleblood sky.

What did they mean by this
>>
So... Is it worth the trouble to become Thor?

Like to go pure arcane, slapping elemental gems onto my hammer as soon as I can, getting a lightning one as fast as I can to attach to it, running around with a Bolt/hammer, Tonitrus, and Tiny Tonitrus?
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