/AGDG/ - Amateur Game Development General

>haxe
>engine
pick one

>>164676016
I'm not going to make it to DD12!

Kill me!

>>164676146
fuck off you hyper pedant

>>164676150
what gaem

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>>164676056
Posted at the wrong time and I forgot pic.

>>164676016
>shittiest laziest possible OP pic
>shitpost directly in the opening line
Today OP was a kill yourself

>2 days

>>164676085
It's telling that out of all the games in /agdg/, there's just one that makes progress every single week and it produces such impressive results.

>>164676201
[/spoiler]Not a School Shooter

I'm a college student and I have a lot of interviews, last year, and the day before DD12 I'm going to be in Seattle interviewing for 3 days.

As well, I've been extremely busy working on my other project (that I don't post here) because we received some advice from some actual developers and we're trying to implement their ideas.

>>164676334
Why is it not yours?

>>164676334
>there's just one
found the dude who checks the thread once a week

>>164676379
Wow I fucked up the spoiler

Just kill me again famalam

>>164676379
>that I don't post here
>we
Dropped

>>164676146
>>164676196
Who in agdg is using haxe?

>>164676563
literally nobody cares if it's an engine or a framework or a library, fuck off back to >>>/g/dpt

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>>164676016
>Matchmaking is improved (potentially fixed)
>Dont have any way of testing it yet tho
>2 more days and ill know if i fixed it
>Still got some more work i want to do server side
>Made some progress on my first race track
https://youtu.be/ml43w2Fseik

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Kinda pseudo progress, but I created a dummy savepoint which I can use until I actually make a model for that thing.

It also plays soothing nice music when you approach it.

>>164676379
you can make the page now and just hit publish on the airplane

Microsoft? good luck famalam

>>164676334
Not to be rude but I don't even recognize that game. Then again I'm blind to most 2D games.

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Threadly reminder :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=046Peo76efA

If you need music for your game, we can make it for you.

Extra low prices per track for you only, aggydaggers.

Contact me at [email protected]

>>164676648
comfiest fucking thing i ever laid eyes on

>>164676642
I was just asking.
>fuck off back to >>>/g/dpt
I guarantee that's where you need to go, not me.

>>164676831
>NO U
wow haven't seen that one in a while now fuck off

>>164676648
Remove 4 small things, paint it green and put it above players head

>>164676742
can u use famitracker
plz show example

>>164676742
Price per song?

everyone knows that Unity is the only way to make a game

name even one indie game made in anything other than Unity

you fucking cant

even AAA studios are all switching to Unity

anyone "using" anything else to make a ""game"" needs to fuck off because they have no game and are a nodev

There is a secret down there
v
v
v
https://clyp.it/3xeenp5u

>>164675553
OK thanks for the hints
I will see what I can do

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>mfw getting interviewed by a gaming magazine about my game soon
time to pack my pockets with spaghetti

>>164677017
RoR was from GM i think, shitpasta-san

>>164676563
I don't think anyone has used it in the whole history of AGDG. Before Unity and UE4 took center stage everyone was using either regular Flash or native OpenGL.

>>164677017
People like you are what make Unity devs look bad. Just shut the fuck up and make your game.

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>none of my gamemaker export modules transferred to gms2.
they are going to jew me out of ANOTHER 500 bucks.

>>164677115
Which one?

>>164676742
>>164676989
Just watched the video
What's a price in the general ballpark for a generic song not too complicated but not too simple?

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>>164677017
>>164676841
Where did the Unity touch (You)?

>>164677119
where is your game?

>>164677183
where is your game?

>>164677360
where is your game?

>>164677425
where is your game?

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>>164677183
>implying

>>164677265
rip monies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfaa0Sjczik

what's an all-over amazing dev laptop? i've been using the same faggotbook since 2008 and need to upgrade but the latest apple reveal looks like such shit i think i'll switch back to pc. anybody have an opinion on a good programming laptop?

>>164677115
Neat

>>164677329
>>164676989
>>164676742

That would put you around 50 dollars, even though these terms are pretty vague. What sort of music do you want exactly?

>>164677140
>I don't think anyone has used it in the whole history of AGDG
Figured as much.

>>164677360
werkin on learning how to like make it, you attempting to change topics doesn't make my answer less valid.

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>>164677491
for me its the thinkpad 390

>>164677491
I use HP elitebook 8770w.
Got mine for $900 a few years ago, its gone down to $400 on ebay

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>>164677304
Kill Screen, I know the interview won't be a game-changer for the project but any recognition is good, I guess.

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I have urges I don't want to have.

>it's another shitpost about Unity because you've never made a game in your life and need something to focus your self hate and dissapointment on episode
UNITY DROP KICKED MY HAMSTER AND LAUGHED RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME
my friends told me not to get involved with a meme physics copy paste engine
i didn't listen
and now squibbles paid the price ;_;

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good by e

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>>164677360
I was working on it until I had a roadblock and nobody answered my question.
>>164676206

>>164677853
did he died

Where do you guys go to find potential musicians? Or do you do all the music yourselves?

I really want to see if I can find someone who can make me music that is Gust Tier or at least around that level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiY90tLXkBE&list=PL258Gqv0lYXkFAD_eXI8oymzdFmPeCQDs

>>164677926
>Where do you guys go to find potential musicians?
bandcamp.
There are people there that really make great music.

>>164677912
no
just logged out

>>164677331
>>164677425
>>164677443
>>164677617
>>164677896
>no game
why are you posting here on a game dev board for game devs when you have no game and are not a game dev
we dont need you here
we dont want you here

just get OUT

>>164677825
Oh shit, the comedy man is back xD

Unity kidnapped me and scalped me on facebook live yesterday. It was not cool.

>>164677730
Maybe it won't be, but I guess you are achiving that way much more than most of anons, so keep going. You are on good path to success.

>>164676742
Do you do gachi?

>>164677853
I enjoy your game, especially knowing it's an irc client

with wizards

>>164678021
because I'm devving a game, silly~

currently just a little twinstick shooter to build up some fundamentals, but hey!

all beginners at some point, etc.

c'mon shitposter-kun-baka-senpai-senpai, try to be a little more positive about things!

>>164677596
>What sort of music do you want exactly?
I don't really know at this point, I'm just curious what it would cost.
Thanks for the answer

>>164678332
where. is. your. game?

unity slapped my breakfast out of my hands onto the kitchen floor and didn't even look me in the eye when he did it

>>164676742


>>164676980
We have not used famitracker before, but we are very familiarised with the tracker workflow, as many of us work with Renoise, and some of us have spent a fair amount of time making music on Amiga back in the days.

What do you need?

>>164678216
Gachimuchi?

>>164677853
is this runescape

>>164678443
>he

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>>164678443
You too? He looked me in the eye and was literally overjoyed when he did it. Should have expected as much from a bloated commercial engine.

>>164677115
You deserve it.

>>164678627
>Gachimuchi?
Yeah

>>164678279
thanks buddy
>>164678648
no its wiz MUD

Unity kicked me in the balls for not sucking her commercial dick

>>164677115
Wow, your PR game is growing strong anon. Congrats!

>>164678782
half of the things visible there are stolen from runescape though

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unity doesn't even listen when i talk to her but when she wants to tell me something i'm supposed to listen?
literally thinking about uninstalling her tonight and making my own engine.

>>164678916
we r not a gang of thieves how dare u

>>164676742
>>164678776

Nah that is plagiarism, son.

>>164678120
oh shit senpaitachi I heard about that

Unity's shemaleboipussy is way too big for my dick, i think s/he's seeing lots of other men

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what's wrong with this code?

In GMS, how come
(grid[# xx,yy]) =
won't let me input a string? It throws a "variable not found" error.

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how exactly is the work flow for animating? I have a rigged model. but what now? just make keyframe animations by manually setting every keyframe? using some control rig? how do you guys do it?

>>164680768
I used Spriter and watched their tutorial. It's easier than I expected.

Just got rid of all per frame allocations from raycasts and removed GetComponent() calls during update by caching and accessing stored references via hash lookup.

code is now a billion times faster.
feels gud

>>164680685
use ds_grid_set

>>164677115
Watch out, Dwayne Johnson might sue you for image theft.

>>164680826
really makes u think

>>164680826
everything over O(1) should be considered illegal

>>164677853
what is this made in?

>>164681026
My progress is O(0)
Beat that.

>>164681109
unity

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>>164680768
I don't know how complex your rig is but I recommend setting up control curves so you don't have to touch the joints themselves. As for keyframes just set the blocking frames first, then refine. Here I only have 2 blocking frames but there is still semblance of movement.

>>164681417
nice, how hard was a chat to implement?

>>164680768
i recommend you watch a couple tutorials and copy more experienced people

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>>164681417

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>>164681685
not that guy but i implemented a chat before, it was really easy pic related

>>164681761
i'm sick of this pic

>>164681901
Excellent.

is it ok to make games you suck at

>>164682406
by the time youre done making it you'll be a pro

>>164682406
Is that possible?

>>164682458

>>164682458
i doubt it

>>164681761
Starting to think this is a complex plot to make people watch Twin Peaks.

>>164680283
it's i++ not ++i

>>164681701
>welcome to this 2 hour tutorial I will talk about stuff I dont need to know
>obnoxious music starts playing while dude clicks something for 30 minutes
like those?

>>164681846
>#region Chat

Triggered

How do I make GM shaders that affect different pixels differently? I've only ever successfully made ones that affect the entire sprite

>>164682574
There's literally no difference in the context of a for loop.

>>164682406
How do you even know if you balanced it right then?

>>164678998
>tfw Godot-chan listens to everything I say
I could never ask for a more perfect engine

>>164682905
there is

>>164682851
// Output pixel
PS_OUTPUT Out;
Out.Color = tex2D(Tex0, In.Texture);

float sum = Out.Color.r + Out.Color.g + Out.Color.b;

// Blue Dark
if (sum>0.815f && sum<0.816f)
{
Out.Color.rgb = BlueDark;
}

// Cyan Dark
else if (sum>1.129 && sum<1.130)
{
Out.Color.rgb = CyanDark;
}
return Out;
}

Whats with the wave of unity shitposting? It's one of the few engines that is OK for 1MA.

>>164683236
Good thing you're contributing

>>164681846
thanks :)

>>164683236
just the same 2 or 3 devs that tried it, failed miserably and now shitpost about it in an attempt to drag everyone else down to their level.

>>164683236
Unity is the ONLY way to make a game!

>>164683236

some cunt in the last thread was bashing it based on it "doing 3d math even in 2d mode" or some bollocks

>>164683236
you could say it's a UNITY of SHITPOSTERS

>>164683492
Unless it's one guy, which it usually is

>>164682851
okay, so this detects it based on the color of the pixel, pretty cool, thanks!

But what about based on pixel location, regardless of color? Which also begs the question how do GM shaders handle pixel placement, because I can't get it to detect jack shit

>>164683560
the joke wouldn't work if we made reasonable assumptions

>>164678916
where can i play

>>164683623
Like Unity

>>164683595
>But what about based on pixel location, regardless of color?
sorry i dont know about that.
I just posted an old pixel shader I made from when I was using MMF2

you can try messing with them I suppose
https://a.pomf.cat/gjghmx.zip

>>164683560

there were multiple posters, I was one of them.
I was, however, only defending unity-chan's honor.

>>164683236
>implying Unity is not in fact a horrible engine who treats people badly
Go ahead and test that theory. You'll end up like the rest of us.

>>164683784
I'll check those out, thanks!

>>164684223
#broken

>>164683860
She has no honor. She's a black widow.

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it can't be bargained with. it can't be reasoned with, it doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. and it absolutely will not stop... ever.

>>164683169
Not in that case.

>>164684647
RUN COWARDS
I HUNGER

>>164684591

>not wanting a sexy black widow girl to suck the life out of you

virgin detected

>>164684882
>wanting a black girl
that's racist

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>>164684647
how do you aim? does it always aim at your mouse cursor? always at the boss? are there none boss levels? how do you aim there?

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>>164685483
mouse/right analogue stick

>>164685834
Is this xbox controller only? Otherwise I have no idea how you could make default mapping for regular gamepads.

>>164686017
GMS seems to only really support xinput right.

do you guys have some tips on how to become a yesdev

>>164686017
Controllers these days are all Xbox-compatible. Nobody even sells anything else anymore.

>>164686115
work a little every day, even 15 minutes

>>164686115
masturbate a LOT so you don't get distracted

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>>164686115
Get a job.

>>164681585
Dude, that looks absolutely terrible.
Drop the control curves, and you'll probably have an easier time trying to force it to move the way you want.

>>164686115
Unironically install and learn Unity.

>>164686115
Just stop being a pussy and make a game. It's not that hard. I'm the biggest loser I know and even I've made a game.
A game isn't going to magically appear in front of you for you to publish, you actually need to put in work and if you're incapable of working, find something else to do.

>>164686115
Download an engine, download the documentation. Take your router and throw it in the trash.

Now you can work without distraction and actually make game.

>>164686162
I want to go back to xinput since it simplifies everything by having a standard input layout but I still use generic controllers and like them so I'm torn.

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These look sufficiently Spyro now, right?

God, I hope this translates well into Unity materials

>>164686475
>Download an engine, download the documentation. Take your router and throw it in the trash.
That would be a fucking nightmare.

I'm trying to implement these sweet ass ease functions, yet there's something wrong.
http://gizma.com/easing/

They work, and looks amazing on 60FPS, but when I release the cap and reaches ~800, that smoothness disappears and it looks like it snaps to place almost instantly. Aren't these functions supposed to be frame rate independent?

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>>164686687
The shapes look good. But Spyro didn't really have reflections or anything. I think the gems were just a solid color and had very bright white highlights

>>164685834
Hey, I love Monolith and play the demo for fun, still haven't beaten it. Just letting you know about a weird bug when trying ot play on a laptop where shooting locks up sometimes.

Works fine with a controller, so it might just be my shitty laptop keyboard/input?

>>164687158
I know. It won't be on the same level of tech.
I just really like nice gems, though.

>>164687209
would need more info, when does it look up?

>trying another 2D indie game
>it's just a megaman clone
>horrible framerate

How in the motherfucking holy bullshit can you fuck up that much a goddamn 2D game?
Holy fucking shit.
Optimize your fucking game ffs

>>164687287
Ah, wasn't sure if you were the dev making the PS1 style game or not.

>>164687356
what game

>>164687158
>>164687386

I wonder how they did those highlights.
I don't think there was any light sources in Spyro at all, so it couldn't be reflections(?)

this might be it friends, i might be about to actually publish a game for the first time in my life. can you believe it? i can't. it only took like 2 years.

>>164687609
what gam

>>164687609
Mind to show us? Congrats, nevertheless.

>>164687652
>>164687659
no i'm shy. also, that was really misleading. i failed for two years because i kept getting overwhelmed by scope. what i really meant to say was that i actually just prototyped something for the first time which is totally feasible to do.
like, if i don't finish this, i'll never finish anything.

>>164687440
Some shit I found on tigsource
>Metaloid:Origin

>>164676016
Reading through C++ exercises, is it fine if I ask questions on some minor stuff here, or should I just use stack overflow?

>>164687936
>>>/g/dpt/

>>164687984
Appreciate it.

>>164686402
well i'm the biggest loser i know and i still haven't made a game.
I'm incapable of doing anything for myself, it's fine when i do something for others, i actually try then but when it's for me i'm like, meh i don't need this, even though creating a game is my dream.

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Space jam when?

>>164687509
difference of
reverse of screenspace direction
and the vetex normal
multiplied by white

>>164676742
How much do they pay you for shilling?

No hard feelings, just curious

>>164688341
Like 6 months ago?

>>164687509
The same way you'd light anything?

Question :
When using scripts in gamemaker, do i have to pass variables or does the script automatically use the variables from the executing object?

>>164688354
>reverse of screenspace direction
Sorry for being an idiot, but what does thta mean?

>>164688636
There were no lights in Spyro.

>>164688337
well dreams don't come true if you don't even try

>>164688750
like i've stated before i can't do shit for myself.
I'll probably just make someone else's dream come true before mine.

>>164688728
Lighting is just vector math. Probably they just used a constant direction as the light source for gems.

>>164688869
That makes sense.
I wouldn't know where to begin to recreate that, though.

Maybe Kada (the programmer) could figure it out.

For now, I hope these gems will do.

>>164688728
-camera.direction

>>164688669
anyone?

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Mecha jam fucking when?

>>164676742
Sounds like Jukedeck-quality to me.

The video was more impressive than the sound, to be honest.

lewd jam when :3

>>164689038
If you're using Unity surely you could just draw most objects unlit and use a single light for the gems. Then you wouldn't have to touch shader code or your own lighting calculations (not that it would be particularly difficult).

>>164688669
>>164689149
I don't know, but you should everything the script uses in anyways. It's good practice.

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Implemented some more things from the Post DD11 to-do list.

Buffed [Cyan]'s anti-bully meter so now it should be way harder to cheese him with spamming up-ice just before he does any attack, and now when he is 'resting', he will get out of that state faster depending on the damage he takes. Hopefully, he's a bit more aggressive in general. Also when you die, he stops attacking to attempt to prevent accidentally killing himself with his bomb attack. I'll probably hold back on giving him a new move until I redesign the first boss and add some basic enemies.

[Shade] now has a longer cooldown between attacks in later phases. I really need to redesign that boss from the ground up but I'll have to do that much later.

strawberry jam when mmm yummy

>>164689061
Thanks

>>164689289
Yeah, that's the kind of hacky solution I was thinking about, but it's not quite the same since you still use an actual light to calculate the shine.
Not that one single light should matter to optimization in this day and age.

>>164689191
what lighting model did you use for that?

>>164689518
>it's not quite the same since you still use an actual light to calculate the shine
There's literally no difference to using a built in light or doing your own calculations, unless you want to do a type of lighting that Unity doesn't give you.

How do you think Unity lights are implemented? It's all just vector math, like I said.

>>164689560
it's not his...

>>164689652
I don't know shit, Anon - I just assumed that using a light source in Unity would force a lot of rendering and calculation calls which we won't actually use.
I also thought that it would force each object to calculate its own illumination, instead of having one calculation shared by all of them.

>>164677115

So obviously your game is deserving of press, I don't want to take away from that.
But how did you manage it? Did they approach you or did you pitch it? Is it a niche publication?

>>164689253
I need a couple more years to hone my art skills before another lewd jam

>>164689829
>I just assumed that using a light source in Unity would force a lot of rendering and calculation calls which we won't actually use.
Unless Unity is programmed by literal retards, there will be no lighting calculations done at all for objects with unlit materials.

>I also thought that it would force each object to calculate its own illumination, instead of having one calculation shared by all of them.
You can't share specular lighting calculations anyways, and even then that basic lighting is so cheap you might as well not even bother trying.

>>164688868
>>164686115
You have adhd and need ritalin, t. knower

>>164690106
>Unless Unity is programmed by literal retards

;^)

>>164689912
>how did you manage it
Pure luck really, the editor found the game randomly and liked it enough to write me an email
>"I just came across Kyōfu no sekai on itch.io and would love to write an article about it on Kill Screen."

>>164689428
do you not care about making the hitbox precise?
or even making it into a (semi)circle?

>>164690486

it's an agdg miracle

>>164690201
i don't know man, half of the symptoms don't suit me, while the other half kinda does.

>>164689428
Wow, the little bit of shake is making this look nice. I want to say grittier, almost

>>164686687
purty

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I accidentally made Whimp into a being of pure energy

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>>164690812

A few questions
Should a platformer have stairs or are they not necessary?
Should a platformers level layout follow logic or can it be like metroid where it's just random levels connected.

>>164690550
I suppose I can make the melee attack hitbox a semi-circle. I never really thought about it.

.>>164690652
Thanks anon.

>>164690652
not necessary
follow logic

>>164691130
Does your game need stairs?
Does your game need a logical level layout? How the fuck is Metroid world design illogical?

>>164690106
>Unless Unity is programmed by literal retards, there will be no lighting calculations done at all for objects with unlit materials.
That's not what I meant.
I meant that I thought Unity probably preload a lot of light systems, when all we want is a simple, colourless shine.

>You can't share specular lighting calculations anyways, and even then that basic lighting is so cheap you might as well not even bother trying.
Okay, that's nice to know!

>>164690805
Thanks!

>>164691163
I wouldn't do the semicirce thing until you've finalized animations. That can always be tweaked, and rectangles are easier to manipulate

>>164691203
>>164691130

>>164691240
>when all we want is a simple, colourless shine
Then you may need a simple custom shader. Probably the specular component of Phong shading (or Blinn-Phong) will look decent.

>>164691332
Noting that down. Thanks a lot!

I just "refactored" by deleting 600 lines off of my 2400 line file and breaking the rest up into 10 files. That's what happens when you work on a 1024x768 screen

>>164691227
I mean it's just levels connected, when say in castlevania sotn, every part of the castle follows logic.
>>164691203
all right, how do i go down in a forest level when it's just a forest, i can't just make a hole in the ground, jump into it and you're a new forest themed level.
can i?

>>164691597
in a forest you climb trees and go underground, duh

I should work on my game instead of running quests on /qst/, but the latter is way easier.

>>164691597
If you want you can just start the next forest with you getting out of a hole or cave

>>164691685
that's the thing, i don't wanna climb trees cus it's stupid and i already have something for underground.
What i need now is something so i can make the forest not a linear level layout.
Anyone got ideas?

>>164691597
cave forests are a thing, you know

>>164691597
Kirby: Amazing Mirror used vertical movement in game to denote both vertical and north/south movement in the world. As long as you're internally consistent you can do stuff that doesn't make much sense in reality.

>>164691739
Incorporate those quests into your game

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So I've created a very basic version of blast corps, I think this game could be fun

>>164691739
turn one of those quests into a massively popular webcomic, run a kickstarter for 2 million dollars, and then pay someone else to make your game

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Was gonna make an awesome game with an artist friend based on this whole cube universe world he's been creating and drawing since he was 11 but he is too lazy to actually put in the work it requires to draw the art for a videogame even though I would program it all.

/blog

>>164691828
I've got a ton of ideas

>>164691831
what do you mean? enter a cave and it's forest themed?
>>164691836
that's not what i mean.
yes a level can have multiple platform heights but how can i go down in a forest themed level so it still makes sense(and continue with the forest theme)

>>164692090
Artists are lazy fucks. I should know, I'm one.

>>164691828
Maybe forests are just a really bad choice for a level theme, if you want a veticality and not climb trees? Caves, castles, spaceships have a room structure that allows rooms to be placed arbitrarily, as rooms within a closed space.

There's a reason why platformers are usually in caves

>>164692197
>how can i go down in a forest themed level so it still makes sense(and continue with the forest theme)
You just roll with it.

>>164692197
>how can i go down in a forest themed level so it still makes sense(and continue with the forest theme)
Do it like shadows over mystara

>>164692312
that's not platformer

>>164692197
>>164692240
Also if you really want a "realistic" excuse that bad, just make it a forest with lots of cliffs and shit.

>>164692212
but my game's idea really favors dark forests and i want it to be a serious game so the level design has to follow logic

>>164691828
SMW reversed loading zones in vertical oriented levels

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>he literally posted this here

Ugh. Sad.

>complained about emoticons
>he's been using a different one on each post since then to get past the filter
And you're probably proud of yourself. But they are not infinite.

>>164692460
So? It's side view, unless you're plataformer isn't side view it doesn't matter

>>164692608
>>164691828
by that mean the level loaded areas when you move vertically
tho I don't know if that's in any way relevant or useful

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>>164692640
>>164692650

>>164692574
You could make all vertical transitions between rooms happen on stairs / ramps, with an implied movement on the z-axis. Still doesn't solve jumps within a level, though

>>164692650
OwO

>>164692650
In the event we run out of emoticons it's possible to post images of them

>>164692732
>>164692608
hmmm maybe having an actual level map could be useful, i could dodge a shit ton of logic and add level variety.

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what the fuck is data-oriented programing or data-driven programming?
every smug asshole talks about it all the time and nobody explains what the fuck it is

>>164692650
(くまくま━━━━━━ヽ( ^(ｪ)^ )ノ━━━━━━ ロリロリ!!!

What variables would I use if I'm refering to an objects angle, not the angle of an object? I'm trying to make a few different types of collision boxes in Construct 2 (yeah, I know. . .) and because I need more than 1 for certain objects I can't just use collision polys. The reason I need more than one is because I need them for when certain AIs see an object and proceed to over towards said object, and when they reach a certain point, they stop. I have the current boxes set up to object.x, object.y and the problem is that the boxes just spin willy nilly because they are overlapping the object they are suppose to be turning to

>>164692925
>talks
is the keyword

Unit they show a large scale project implemented with the buzzwords working empirically more efficient than another of similar application it's all just talk.

>>164692650
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Does anyone using Unreal know of a physical character project that's available?

Like, actual physical character pawn that actually interacts with the environment, instead of just faking it like a standard character whore. I have some heavy physics interaction I want going on, but just simple collisions get all screwed when one of the entities isn't really physical, potentially launching the actual physical object unless its mass is extremely exaggerated.

Saw a post claiming this is how all engines handle the player character, that is non-physical entity in a physical world, how did Source handle the player character?

>>164692925
>google it out of curiosity
>first result isnt a wiki article
>it's a stackoverflow question to the effect of "what is data oriented programming"

>first and highest rated response is "lol is this homework? get out of here scrub"

wow coders really are all trash

>>164692925
Shit compared to type driven programming.

>>164693280
Look at the Content Examples, there's one showing physics animation

>>164693280
>how did Source handle the player character?
player characters have a physical volume and mass in the world, but aren't exactly a physics object so they don't normally do "damage" to things they fall on or bump into at high speed.

it's definitely not like you have an actual ragdoll QWOPing about. doing that would probably require something like an npc puppet, like how Alien Swarm handles its player characters (the player is actually the camera, the marines are technically NPCs just given very rigid commands. same for DOTA2 afaik.)

what exactly is it that you're trying to do? you're not going to get very good help without a question more specific than "heavy physics interaction I want going on". do you want buttons and levers to be physically pulled by the player character, or do you just want the player to be able to knock stuff around when bumping into them? are you making OctoDad, or Tribes? theres a big difference and it will affect the type and relevance

Okay another question.(this is probably just preferance)
Should your stats (i.e health/mana) be replenished upon entering a new level or should they stay what they were?

For an action platformer where levels aren't connected directly but rather through level map like in super mario world.

>>164693832
can't say without knowing your game

>>164693280
there was a livestream not long ago about making physically based character movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFpXqggbUP4&list=PLZlv_N0_O1gbggHiwNP2JBXGeD2h12tbB&index=21

>>164693832
using super mario world
>every world - yes
>every level in that world - nope

>>164694046
this makes sense, so in my case, every level theme you should get your stats refilled.

>>164692925
Data oriented design means you're thinking about how memory is accessed and either laying out the memory to fit your algorithms or modifying your algorithms to fit the memory layout. Data oriented design is big right now because the major CPU performance bottleneck is memory access and data oriented design is about reducing the cost of reading and writing memory as much as possible.

Data driven design means you're not hardcoding things that may be frequently changed during development, by someone without source code, or by a non-programmer, usually by loading them from databases, files, scripts, etc. instead.

please stop asking questions that

a) are extremely technical
b) have a personal interpretation

without

c)providing any information or context

>>164694108
>>164693832
after finishing and advancing to a new area for the first time - yes

>>164693280
>Like, actual physical character pawn that actually interacts with the environment,
in what sense because a lot of interactions with the environment are either shit that should have physics anyway, like swinging bats or shooting grenades, or are dumbshit that have no place being physics-based instead of calculated offline and scripted for live play, like pushing elevator buttons or flushing toilets

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>>164687509
I played around with making a shader for this in Godot.
It doesn't require any lights, the material still needs to render lighting of course, but it's just a custom calculation. The shiny spot will always be visible, and while walking around a model with sharp edges it does look like it's shimmering.

I'm making an RTS game and I'm stuck on a basic thing. How the fuck should I handle a player click that potentially selects a unit? Or a box selection of multiple units? What data structure should I store my units in so I can easily determine which ones get selected? Simply iterating over a vector will get ugly if there's a lot of units.

>>164694293
no, believe it or not, you actually helped, wether it be your preference that made me sure of something or just something i didn't think of

>>164694607
Spatial partitioning.

>>164694293
What should I do with my life? Is making games 'it'?

>be me
>virgin
>meet cute girl
>go on a date
>accidentally drop condoms
>everyone shuns me

doushio????????????

Does vector art always look like low quality mobile trash?

>>164692197
there are literally caves with forests inside them in the real world, so you can in fact do down a hole and end up in a forest, if you're worried about it not making sense.

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Come get some

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>>164694293
iawtp

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>>164694559
The fragment part of the shader can still be a basic unshaded texture, or just a plain color.

>>164694659
Any details? Should I implement a BSP tree myself? How often should it be updated?

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>>164694678
yeah pretty much

I experimented with and learned a lot about Godot now and feel I am ready to make the game I started a real game. I already restructured a lot of the project with this knowledge.

But now I still can't decide what the game should be. I feel like the game design part is even harder than the programming/working part, which is unexpected.

I made that puzzle game prototype and now I feel like there should be a basic strategy game on top of it, or maybe there should be hexagons, or levels with different puzzle systems interacting, or maybe the puzzle blocks can turn into water or resources. I just don't know, and some people here were saying I should just make the plain puzzle game.
How do I proceed? Even if I were to decide to make a strategy system on top of it, I'm not sure if I should make an isometric or top-down perspective.

>not programming your own browser so you can display your website exactly the way you want with no bloat or noise

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>>164694678
Yes

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>>164693496
Sorry regarding the actual interaction of the character.

>>164693776
The 'boat' the player stands on is effectively a platform held in the air via continuous force/the ocean. Physically it's a flying platform. It doesn't play along with the character movement aspect, which tends to override any physical object that enters its space. It's an old problem and I have a bad fix for it by decoupling the pawn collision entirely from the ship, but I'm trying to address the actual problem.

>>164694539
See webm.

>>164694661
make a dating sim and include this option

But seriously, there's plenty of fish in the sea but if you're a high end cave troll like me you'll end up alone.
The strangest part is that i'm not ugly, have a likable personality, it's just that girls are so god damn boring and since basically all i do is game and game dev aside from my shitty job, the girls who actually game are even more boring. Only normies need girls, i can masturbate. fuck normies.

>>164694046
>>164694108
This only works in Mario because the levels are designed to be able to be completed with the base health. I mean, most of them bring you to "full health" within the first section by giving you a powerup, so it doesn't matter if you came into them as small mario or with a cape and an extra mushroom, all(?) levels are built for you to be small mario with no powerups.

This sort of design wouldn't work for all games.

>>164694913
Spatial hashing or a quadtree would be more suitable.

You don't update the structures at a fixed rate, rather, whenever something in the partition moves, it may remove itself and insert back somewhere else.

>>164695101
wow anon, are you me?

>>164695256
>kimberlykubuspostsonAGDG.webm

>>164695060
>The 'boat' the player stands on is effectively a platform held in the air via continuous force/the ocean. Physically it's a flying platform.
yeah theres a garrys mod game mode thats basically that already and boats even in base HL2 already "work" even if water clips through them

you dont really need "heavy physics interaction" just to stand on an object and im surprised UE4 doesn't do that natively with its character controller

>>164695138
hmm that's a good point, but my game will pretty much be a castlevania rip off without items but with talent trees and none of the talents will be essential, the only part you'll have to worry about is not dying.
How does that sound?

Maybe i should also make the player automatically regenerate health to like 25% so it's still possible to complete the level even if you fuck up real bad. (like dishonored did with mana, always regenerates just enough for one blink)

Does that sound fair?

>>164694293
Please stop posting without
a) progress
b) finished game

>>164695256
Art

>>164695060
I'm even more confused

>>164695248
yes i'm you, that's why i still don't have a game and i procrastinate by watching Hannibal and playing Overwatch.

>>164694559
>>164694895
Very cool!
That's exactly what I wanted to know!

>>164695256
good shit

>>164694913
Only units that are visible on the screen are selectable, so the problem is inherently solved by the fact that you don't draw the entire game world at once. And iterating over the visible units is not a performance concern.

>>164695256
Glorious.

>>164695379
>yeah theres a garrys mod game mode thats basically that already and boats even in base HL2 already "work" even if water clips through them
I suppose this is because the boat just overrides the character in the physics realm, aka it will just push the character away. In the Unreal realm, the character will tell the ship to sit the fuck down, because it has entered the physical dimension of the player character, and there it is GOD.

>>164695592
Shit, I guess I'm a useless faggot.

do you expect game maker studio 2 to have an higher price on official release than now?

>>164695256
cute

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>>164695364
>>164695564
>>164695637
>>164695662
>>164695787
fuck me, is this what you sickos want

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some relevant data about steam

>>164695715
you're right we are

>>164695651
You still have to determine which units are visible, which requires spatial partitioning to do efficiently.

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>>164695592
>calls other people normies
>plays the ultimate casual bait babby FPS

>>164695015
Yeah making a fun game design can be the most difficult part of making a game.
I can't really think of a way to combine puzzle and strategy games. I feel like strategy games are already sort of like a puzzle. Trying to use and position your units the best way possible is like a puzzle.

>>164695834
It's all well and good having a kooky art style but no shadows or textures seems like it'll be a bitch to properly judge and position yourself for platforming.

Are we finally entering a new era of autismcubes?

>>164695685
>I suppose this is because the boat just overrides the character in the physics realm,
no

you can just stand on physics objects and the game won't crash. the player has mass and will totally cause lighter boats to just capsize by standing on them, but heavier/larger objects will let you stand on them

id make you a gif or something if it didnt take forever

>>164695256
gotta be honest, don't like it that particular effect. looks kinda ugly. nothing personal tho, rest of your game looks cool.

>>164695403
so does this sound good guys?
agdg pls help me design.

>>164695834
No, the bugs are not nice, but the overall style without that looks great, in my humble opinion.

>>164695834
no that's taking it overboard

>>164691885
>Blast Corps where the camera isn't absolute shit
This is all I've ever wanted.

Godspeed, anon.

How do you find something your passionate about

>>164695403
I mean, it really depends on a lot of things.

The other part of the mario equation is that you lose all your powerups when you die, so each level "has" to give you a fair start each time.

One way to look at it is if you want levels to be so hard that you have to farm health/bonuses outside of a level or if you just want each level to be its own distinct thing with its own difficulty level. Most people go with the latter, but the former is also an interesting design space and it might let you do more interesting things with a world map.

>>164695863
Yeah but it's already happening somewhere regardless of whether it's 2D or 3D, it's an integral part of the rendering process so OP either has to implement it or just make use of the implementation already present in the engine he's using

>>164695949
>are we finally entering a new era of forced memes?
ftfy and no that's not a new era

>>164696246
you're

>>164695403
>Maybe i should also make the player automatically regenerate health to like 25% so it's still possible to complete the level even if you fuck up real bad.

probably gonna piss off a lot of purists with regenerating health, most older games dealt with this by having weak enemy spawns that drop health around save points and bosses.

It sort of forces you to learn enemy patterns and gitting gud when progressing, the motivation becomes the light at the end of the tunnel.

>my game will pretty much be a castlevania rip off without items but with talent trees and none of the talents will be essential, the only part you'll have to worry about is not dying.

okay how will you make it interesting? To me (if I put it harshly) it sounds like you're demolishing core concepts for no reason.
Like needing this key item at this location is frustrating sometimes so that has to go, use whatever item you wish.

The point is what do you actually do in the game, there's gotta be a problem and a solution.
Is the game ungodly difficult and the goal "not dying" is impaired by ridiculous enemies a la IWTG/Battle Kid

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>>164695941
here's your texture

>>164696152
>>164696123
i don't even like this particular striped style that much either. what's most interesting is the moving vertices inside the fixed boxes. I need SOME pattern that moves with the objects, but not this

>>164696294
Okay but the way you worded >>164695651 implies that no spatial partitioning is needed at all. Hopefully if he's using an engine that implements spatial partitioning for its own uses it also exposes it to the user, otherwise that would be a massive waste.

>>164696317
>shitting on the best AGDG meme
I'll wreck you sordfag

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Reminder

>>164696258
i'm thinking that if you die, you retry from the level start with what you had when you first entered.
Might add checkpoints like shovel knight did if the game ends up hard.

Engine devs. How do you handle input?
Using SDL and it seems like I should do something like
unsigned char* key_states;
Then on a per frame basis pump events and do
key_states = SDL_GetKeyboardState(nullptr);

Then I can check against is with something like

is_down = key_states[SDL_SCANCODE_A]; (or whatever the actual constant is)

This seems simple enough.

But where/how do I define keybindings and only really care about those particular inputs?

Like I'd think some config file like
UP = 'w'
DOWN = 's'
JUMP = 'space'
would be cool, then just read those into the engine and somehow expose those as inputs to check against?

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>>164695847
page in better quality

Any good blender tutorials that focus on low poly modeling and texture mapping? I am a blender babby.

>>164696428
to be honest with you i just have a combat gimmick i wanna implement and more than anything i like to tell stories, if i could i would just write stories all day and let other people make the game for me while looking over the designs.
maybe one day that will happen
>>164696258
and like i've said you're gonna have a talent tree but i'm not sure yet if i'll have an xp system or something buyable or maybe a talent point after a boss, i don't know, but i won't have items.

>>164696037
Unreal handles that generally well, the problem comes when the object/ship tries to dictate the movement. It's especially bad when the player is stationary or the object is trying to push the player up, the character in most cases just refuses to move.

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>>164696863
maybe you should get another engine. even fucking source lets you stand on a moving object, and lets you capsize a moving object if you're significantly heavier than it

>>164696468
I'll have to do it myself, I only use pure SDL2.

>>164696994
Source has good physics, just a shame about literally every other aspect of the engine

>>164696546
>gmod is third highest new owners
fucking how? Alt accounts from fags getting banned?

>>164696994
Source was the first engine I considered for it but Unreal lured me in.

To Epic, this is all 'working as intended' sadly, so devs that are trying to make something other than a generic walking FPS need to shitfix.

>>164697342
>Source has good physics,
a phrase not one person has ever uttered

>>164696790
>to be honest with you i just have a combat gimmick i wanna implement and more than anything i like to tell stories

This could be the biggest pitfall or the greatest selling point depending on execution

I don't know a whole lot of games of this kind that are "easy" or more catered towards storytelling

The problem is ofcourse how do you convey to people that like stories but might not be the most hardcore of gamers to buy it?

This example gets brought up all the time but Dark Souls more or less puts the story in the hands of the player like
>you all figure it out
and uses enviromental storytelling almost exclusively, ofcourse it caters to the more hardcore crowd but the shear amount of discussion around the story elements creates insane word of mouth for the other crowd.


and yeah as for that last bit...

once you have like 10 award winning games and 15 years of AAA experience maybe