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Fine Gook Dagger edition

Previous Thread: >>164525976

>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=789

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt

>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha/Fedimian, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Cats)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)

>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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Futureproof is recruiting. PM Cats.
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>>164657450
But she's back again right?
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>>164658070
That's from July when he quit the first time and left FP and then came back 2 weeks later to join FOE instead before leaving FOE to join Valhalla and then Ohayou (the person is blue is supposed to be Hi! I'm Kora! asking him why he's not going back to FP). There's another EG webm that came out after this that gives more context to the situation at the time.
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Crusader class when?
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>>164658760
when you code it
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Why is card leveling so retarded?
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>>164659140
Lel. Much better to just feed it new cards anon.
Each card is only 100k.
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>>164659140

kek, I almost felt for this

"lemme buy this 2m ts 10, using gem logic it should give me 27 cards worth of exp".

thanks god /tosg/ salved me

at least there1's card abrasives now (this new year event gives one worth 1k exp), maybe we'll see more card abrasives as gimmick rewards or even pvp (or gacha, lol)
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Does glass mole still stack?
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is card fodder here?
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I like butterflies.
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how many cards can equip
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ULTIMATE POWER

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2122333ff
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who was card ?
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>>164659535
So what's the plan with your build? Suck ehm all up inside ice tree and release everything?
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>>164659535
>not wiz3 pyro3 wl2
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>>164659405

"stack". be careful with this word since it can be referred to lots of things in this situation


in our current patch:

You can <equip> up to 8 (rank 8) glass mole / chapparition cards on your character and get the 80% bonus from 8x lv 10 cards when using a SP potion. So yes, in this sense, the stack.

what don't stack anymore: the effect. You can't use TWO different sp potions (like a alch pot + keistas) anymore to get the double effect (160%). So in this sense, different potions won't stack.

Also, there's the melstis situation but this one I'm not 100% sure since it's been weeks since I last tried meltis

Melstis is capable of saving your buffs, including the card boost so you can stay with the effect for much longer than 4/5 seconds. But htere was a "melstis stack bug" where you could use potions (double potions using previously stack bug) to get a 80% boost, + 80% boost and since meltis was holding your effect, you could use another potion after the cooldown and it would stack with the current effect so we are at 80% + 80% form the first row, now +80% +80% + 80% +80% since melstis is holding everything. on infinite melstis setup, well, we could achiev 9382938293 attack. I hope they finally fixed this all.
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>>164659614

Suck em with the force of TEN THOUSAND FROZEN DILDOES and then UNLEASH my pyronectic BALLS OF HELL while spraying HELL from the ground up and then BLASTING EM ALL WHIT FREEZE BOMBS while i sit back wit my spirit homies laffing at em
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Are Bloodletting and Healing Factor still worth getting and maxing now? I was thinking I should put points in Pandemic to spread Vapours in r8 instead.
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>>164659868
>Suck em with the force of TEN THOUSAND FROZEN DILDOES

But then they had Prophecy and just walk out of the tree. Also enjoy doing 1 damage while risking death by pears every time you cast anything.
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>>164660471
>PvP
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Comfy guild!

Recruiting!

New player, old player, returning SEA players!

Welcomed!

WB killed!

Many!

No requirements!

Only active!

Katzenberg!

PM him!

Mwee!
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>>164660379
Bloodletting sure.
There's little point in getting healing factor past 5-6 now, once you have 100% uptime reliably there's no point in putting more points into it.
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>>164660471
Teach me how to reach these amount of Physical and magical defense.
I'm pooped.
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>>164660769
Get decent gear
I mean it's not rocket science
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>>164660589
Katz <3
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>>164662048
I have full virtov and only have 800 pdef
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>>164657046
what is this chinese pedo enabler shit?
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>>164662651

he said decent, anon

virtov is trahs

ok, desu plate top/bottom are faily good if you can't get hsta/lolopanther. use 2x lv 7+ yellow gems top/bottom, get aspersion 17 from pardoner.

boots = 3x lv 7 + blue gems windrunner

accessories: high mdef ones like dhrag or 2x rhevisan

8x nuaele cards, rank 8. mdef/def hats if possible

+4+ lionhead shield
transcend your gear to stage 3 at least (armor and accessories are much cheaper to upgrade, unlike weapon)

but that mdef... I think he's also a cryo (cryo gets their shields def as raw mdef)
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What's better ? dopel 3 or fencer 3 ? (for pve)
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>>164662825
>shield
>Nuaele cards
I'm not a cuck cleric/wizard
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>>164663007
You won't reach such mdef/def unless you're a whale then.
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>>164663007

you can still get around 2.5k~ def with aspersion and 1.5k mdef

as a sword you can use superior kovos greave, even better
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>>164663212
As swordie you also get pierene which is pretty ridiculous
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>>164662651
Then you're a fucking retard or a liar.

I have virtov without any yellows and I can get 1,5k pdef with aspersion.
I have +5 grynas with yellows and I can get 2.2k pdef on a character with 0 con.
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So, why is the orange mace better than the orange rod again? For what reason they did that?
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>>164663648
Because imc loves clerics
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>>164663528
retard
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>>164663528

calm down your titties, he's numbers are accurate without aspergers 17 and yellows, plus he's probably r7
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I really want to take advantage of the current attribute discount but I'm broke.
So what's the best way to RMT without RMTing?
Tokens don't seem worth selling at the current cash to silver ratio.
Gacha is too random and unreliable, I could make a lot or barely anything.
Enchant scrolls, maybe? doesn't seem that much better than tokens though.
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>>164665371
Silver Lottery chests
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>>164665371

you're kinda late, that's why everything's price dropped

on my server, thansk to the attribute's discount, blessed shards went from 230 to 170k, tokens from 2.2kk to 1.5~
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guess whos back kids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CL6n0FJZpk
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>>164667071
What. No way.
Wut?

Bees are not that profitable anymore. What kind of new schemes are you going to plot to once again be top dolla dolla with full transcendence gear due to buying up all the blessed shards in the market.
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>>164667071
R
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V
F
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>>164667071
pm Cats if you are looking for a [b]TOSG[/b] guild.
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>dvine quits
>lolipan losts his drives
>cats assume
>some weeks later
>dvine is back
>cats pass leadership to dvine
>divine breaks the guild

it was dvine's keikaku since the beginning
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what you think about the glass mole card?

useful or just sell it? for general no summoner
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>>164668801
cats is the best <3
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>>164667071
welcome back my nigga.
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>>164667071
who are you?
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>>164667071
Good to see you again Atom!
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>>164667071
Please cuck Jace. Take back your throne
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>>164668804
Depends on your class and build and gear.
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I noticed Shinobi's stealth from those two smoke bomb skills doesn't break when you deal damage.
You can use all skills but taking damage or jumping will still remove the buff.
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>>164670380
so you get the 3j friends list bug too?

why tf does it always show 3j logging out when he wasn't online and friends list login logout notifications are turned off
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>>164670380
Why the FUCK do you have cuckjane in your friend list
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>>164668804
Glassmole card is best used with builds that can deal massive damage within 5 sec then waits for their cooldowns to resurface.

Classes like Cannoneer, Rogue, Mergen, Musketeer and the likes work well with it.
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>>164670380
>>164670518
>>164670734
>someone posts gameplay discussion
>spergs ignore it and start talking about clique drama instead
I fucking hate you people
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>>164670380
Which addon does that yellow bar?
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>>164670380
That's pretty neat and seems balanced if intentional.

It only lasts for a few secs anyways.
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>>164671184
Show Skill by Monogusa1244
I thought it'd work for skills other players use but it's just for your skills, so it's kinda useless right now.
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>accepted a bunch of quests
>suddenly every mob becomes aggressive af
free taunt is great
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>can't click party invite from chat

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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i really, really, really like this game. Mind if i join playing my friends?
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>>164658398
https://a.pomf.cat/hacyar.webm
good times
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>>164667071
https://a.pomf.cat/ehlktm.webm
and this one I made for dvine
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so I'm a new player who started like a few days ago, before playing I looked up some information and guides to try to learn the game, I ended up deciding to follow a build that was basically cleric2 bokor2 diev pardoner pd2, I'm now leveling it but I'm at like level 130 and I'm starting to doubt if the build is really good, I know what I'm playing right now is not representative of what the endgame will be but it feels like hexing + effigy consumes a lot of sp and it works really bad before I can get the plague doctor pandemic skill, I'm mostly clearing with heal and cure, and I'm spending a fuckton of SP potions which I guess is normal, but still. The build is this one, http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/nq9fr23bax/ , I really followed it blindly.
Is the build going to be considerably better later, or is this build kinda shit? Also, are you supposed to farm the materials for diev?
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>>164674775
Ex-bokor2/pard/oracle/PD2 here, you are following old meta.
Stay away from bokor, they suck in pve and barely useful in pvp after mdef scaling.
Pardoner are nice for discerning evil, but not really needed if you have agny
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>>164674775
>consumes a lot of sp
Gain 130 levels so you can farm free rasvoy potions, or deal with quest rewards and alchemists. I hope you haven't been putting your points in spirit.
>it works really bad before I can get the plague doctor pandemic skill
Yes, come back when you have death steam. I'd get more of the plague doctor utilities instead of going full healing factor.
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>>164670518
because she's a CnL hacker
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>>164674775
>>164677109
Forgot to add, whoever made that guide is a legit retard. Next time avoid any guide from tosbase, they are either outdated, shit or straight troll guide

>SPR
You dont need SPR, just buy bigger sp pot from market holyshit

>heal factor lv10
lv5 more than enough, if you cant survive with that then get a new armor.

>no bloodletting/mask
its like you hate utilities
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How do you prove you're not disinfo
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>>164674775
Reroll into Cleric2Diev3MikoPD2
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>>164674775
>>164677109
I was building a bokor/pd. I stopped at level 100 finding it incredible boring and weak, so I made a Pally3 to Inquis instead.
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>>164678479
Different guy, but how about full support Priest3PD?
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>>164678748
>full support
>Using a rank 8 AoE monster
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>>164679154
>implying PD isn't support
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>>164663648
Other than the HP how is it better?
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>>164679871

It just has superior stats.

Same Matk.
More int.
More spr.
Gives Hp.

Rod gives you sp recovery and physical defence.

I'd rather have Hp than sp recovery or defence.
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>>164680042
>what is transcending
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>tfw can't decide between sawai or canelle buffs
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>>164680269

What?

Skull Smashers main stat is magic attack. When you transcend it, it gets exactly the same bonus as the 315 orange rod. But still has superior stats in other areas.
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>>164680289
>canelle buffs not in orsha
whyyyy
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>>164680289
who the FUCK is sawai
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>>164680042
>HP
>superior than defense
If only we had a bunch of % buffs to increase it by. Oh wait!
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>>164680639

1800 hp vs 130 defence.

Besides, the recent defence bonus we got has made me pretty much immune to physical damage in everything but PVP. When things can only do 1 damage to me I'd rather have 1800 hp.
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>>164680269
Skull Smasher primary stat is matk, it will always be better than Heart of Glory, and physial Clerics forever cucked with Vienazis Mace or whatever is that name unless they get a Solkimi.
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okay, so I'm the one who posted this >>164674775
apparently I got lucky and started playing just in time to get the rank reset voucher, what cleric build should I go with to be useful in parties? I want to be able to find a party easily and to be able to help them.
However, the rank reset voucher does not reset stats, doesn't it? and I spent all my stats into int, I'm level 129
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>>164680557
She said something about not feeling welcome in orsha anymore, also cute wanted her services in fedi
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>>164680618
A bully
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>>164680904
Meta Cleric build

Cleric2>Diev3>Miko>Kabba>Inqui

Supportive in PvE with some damage coming from, and the absolute fucking cancer in PvP
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>>164680953
>not feeling welcome in Orsha anymore
what does that even mean lmao
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>>164680618
>she doesn't know biggest bully of CutNLine
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>>164680618
some faggot in CnL that pretends to be a girl so a few of them orbit him
looks like their cancer is spilling over to the thread now
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>>164681146
>some faggot in CnL that pretends to be a girl so a few of them orbit him
but wait, if everyone in CnL pretends to be a girl, who is orbitting who?
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>>164681407
More massive bodies are always orbited by less massive ones.
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>>164681146
Why don't you just quit the game already?
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>>164681505
tfw got sucked into the alsheyra orbit and can't escape until she eats me
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>>164681407
I don't really care, I just want them to keep that shit in their discord and not bring it here.
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>>164682043
whatever happened to us shitting on anyone that used discord?
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>>164681856
But I have, I'm just still in their discord
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>>164680370
Heart of Glory is much cuter though so it will be better than skull smasher for my miko
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>>164682197
The ones shitting discord have always been FP, because back then it was basically FP vs FOE (and guilds in irrelevant servers) and FOE was the discord guild.

FP is dead, therefore no more shitting on discord.
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>>164681861
>she
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>>164682442
this, style points people, skull smasher is fugly as shit
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>>164682597
fuck off discord
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Sawai is cute please don't bully her I buy her buffs every day
Best CnL girl
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>>164683383
sawai is a man
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>dead in the morning
>just reached 50
>nobody is queuing at Tenet
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>>164683585
but Sawai is actually a girl
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>>164683742
sawai is a sissy boy
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>>164681146

>Before Ohayou joins
>No insider shitposting ever
>After Ohayou
>Thread full of insider shitposting

I hope Plasmagica kicks the spies when she gets back
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>>164683804
She's a girl!!
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>>164683714
just solo it
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I masturbated to sawai's silence on voicechat
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>CNL is full of grown men meme
It is literally all girls except for Lalaco who only cosplays as one.
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Any viable build for sapper?
I like broom trap.
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I never realized schoolgirls were so stacked
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>>164683987

>implying we didn't have shitposters all the way back to closed beta
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>>164684336

Get rogue2
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>>164684336
Archer2Sapper2ScoutFalconer3 for maximum shenanigans, also good in parties. Terribly boring to level though until r8.

Archer2Sapper2Wugushi2FalconerMergen could also be interesting, lots of AOE potential and still strong single target focus. Wugushi are getting buffed heavily every patch.

Archer2Sapper2ScoutFalconer Musket2 if you just like having a gun. Muskets are the strongest Archer class right now

the Broom trap 150% damage attribute is a trap, it only boosts the base skill damage which equates to literally nothing.
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>>164683987
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>>164684607
also you can drop archer2 for ranger if you want barrage which is strong with circling but you might want to get Rogue too for Feint Barrage
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>>164684178
I-Is it possible
Pure INT Pyro Linker
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>>164684716

>barrage which is strong with circling

It's still bugged
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>>164684607
U telling me every aspect of an aoe class doesnt come from sapper
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>>164684658
It wasn't often this shit was posted this and i'd hate to see this shit become something that is common in the threads.

Keep this stupid shit out of the thread you dumb faggots.
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>>164684768
extremely possible, just remember to get pardoner buffs and cafrisun and you can probably just auto attack everything to death
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>>164684768
Be careful of the the ranged mobs
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stop bullying CnL or ELSE
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>>164683987
FP and Ohayou are the cancer of /tosg/. Which makes sense since Ohayou was formed with FP rejects which was already a cancer gold.
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is cute the only good /tosg/ guild?
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>>164684607
even tho wugushi geting fotm why just c2?
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>>164685307
yes but please stop posting about it, its our golden secret.
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post updated leveling guide
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>>164684883
>>164685084
Alright, thanks. I'll give it a go later.
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>>164684658
But non of that is insider because it's all disinfo
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>>164681146
but the only ones that have orbiters in cnl are the boys.
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>>164685696
point out any insider shit in the thread then

because this >>164681146 is also disinfo

nobody orbits sawai
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>>164685401
well its the tradeoffs of the circles really, although if it were me personally I'd just go hunterwugu3 and forget sapper but its a cute class.

So assuming sapperc2 is required for the sake of the original request, you either get wugu3 or Falconer. Falconer is for circling which is beastly with Mergen and overall just melds great with parties. Also its kind of more futureproof because almost all archer skills will do silly things with circling and I dont expect r9 to be any different.

Wugushi3 gives you 5 more seconds on both your poisions and makes Gu Pot last 5 more seconds, and this is also quite strong actually. The new Jincan Gu is actually still pretty shit from what I can tell though so going c3 just to get access for it is a bad idea.

Its just if you like being a poison spitter or want to synergize with your other classes.

If you like the idea I'd just recommend doing this build until you hit r7 and then decide which path you'd rather take.
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>>164685696
>Because it's all disinfo
Ehhhhh not really
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>>164686320
>protagonist
this is old senpai
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>>164686320
>People having fun

Wow senpai, you feeling left out and need to shit post? How sad.
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https://riseofmidgard.com/ TOMORROW!
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>>164686787
but you said tomorrow last year
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>So much rubberbanding

Im gonna take a break, this is killing me
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>>164686787
why is everyone shilling this and not the private servers that already exist? being curious here
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>>164686740
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>mfw imc nerfed sadhumans

THANKS IMC
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>>164686787
we RO now?
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???
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>>164687923
>>164687883
rly mjavascript:;ak me tink
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>>164687883
>elealch
Well you could say he
really likes the elements
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>>164687883
Warlock2 is so shit I can't blame him.
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>>164683987
This is not true.
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Anyone playing hackapel please share thoughts on build.
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>>164687325
Because ebin fresh start. It's the cycle of private servers, people get caught up in the "oh no I'll fall behind" mentality and flock to new servers forever.
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>>164689083
Archer 3 > Ranger 1 > Fletcher 3 > Hakka
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>>164689179
>archer 3

its not much different from the arch2 ranger 1 scout fletcher 3 hakka. I think this one is much better since you can always just dismount for cloaking utility. Either way it should be solid. Just make sure to build a strong crossbow.
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>>164665360
Cats daiiiiiiisuki
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>>164689145
i got meme'd on then, thought people were unironically consider playing it
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>>164687853
>>164687325
>>164686787
>we
>why is everyone
no, its like 1 faggot tryin to get others play that shit with him. ignore
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>>164689696
I am and are downloading it as we speak.

See you in another life brother.
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>don't log in for 7 days
>get kicked out of CnL
Why is CnL so shit now?
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>>164689961
This is disinfo.
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>>164689961
>hotdogbun
who?
>>
reminder not to put any of the "3rd circle" costumes into team storage unless you have a character with that 3rd circle of the correct gender. because if you dont it will be stuck in your storage forever.
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>>164689961
probably outmemed by a new cow
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>>164685184
This isn't true. FP is pure (less now that Cats is in charge).
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>>164690134
is Lalaco still out of CnL?
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>>164690291
Lalacow is now playing true ERP game.
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>>164690291
the cow is moving to greener grass.

;_;
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the cow was a filthy boy now anyway
homomilk.png
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>>164690387
ffxiv is steamlined shit
literally wow with ff painted over it
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41312a8eh.2a

Is this the ultimate "one/two rank wonder" cleric build?
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>>164690387
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>>164690569
WoW is good though
unlike this game

Balanced
Challenging
Casual friendly

Ugly as shit though
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>>164690670
yeah but wow isn't fun like tos is
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>>164687883

>awakening machine
>cute costume
>homunc casts frost cloud

it's okay
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>>164690732
>awakening machine
awakening is so easy, any build can do that fine
>cute costume
true
>homunc casts frost cloud
it does not

PryoAgnymemeAlche would be better
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>>164690727
ToS used to be fun before they ruined pvp with everyone doing 1 damage against overgeared clerics

Now you can't even pvp without having a stage 8 weapon or something
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>>164690910

I was just joking... anyway, any elememe skill that homunc can use? maybe prominence (agny) or hail, electroqt, memeteor

also, saw a elememe with agny and prominence a few days ago, shit is scary now. random, yes, but surely a real dps upgrade coming from the most unexpected skill
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so who's playing the new ro server?

im going high lizard or bard
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>>164691316
>im going high lizard
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>>164691316
get the fuck out
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>>164691160
>pvp
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>>164691316
Gonna go for the class that has homunculus and afk the shit out of it
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Should I try to farm bees with a homunculus?
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>>164691316
There is /romg/. Please post there.
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>>164691223
nothing good

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/homunculus-what-it-is-how-to-get-it-and-how-it-works/322177

>>164691316
fuck off already

>>164691750
dont think it can. weak and AI is dumb as shit
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Tell me about your ToS crush!
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>>164692308

He's too good for me

and this game
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>>164692426
>he
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>>164691750
bees gave me ptsd
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What should I be using for a weapon as a catagoon?

Also, is it okay to not have plate bonus?
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>>164693173
Catacombs Pike until you get a 315 weapon.
No.
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>>164692308
She's kind, and always makes me laugh, and wears the cutest costumes and hats because she know how to accessorize and She's given me like 30 shards and 10 portium just to help me craft my gear. She is the best!
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>>164689179

Don't do fletcher, you will have no room for your hackka skills in your rotation.
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I died several times in the 50 instance... no con no life is real
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>>164693560
>She
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>>164694147
Hp hats, https://tos.neet.tv/items/603106 and gem your Cafrisun
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Can i play monk without being shit on for it now?
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>>164694354
lolno
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>>164693173
the poorfag catagoon items fpr pvp ( you are pvping right? ) are shade armor/legs and virtov leather gloves/boots

your weapon will be plunger for decay or catacombs pike

amulet is max peta

rings are glass bracelet

once you get the 300mil you need you can upgrade to lolopanther and sissels :^)
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Ah, coming back to play I'm wondering why did I fall for the cloth armor memes, Spent a few millions in making this virtov robe and it's a fucking waste.
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>>164694797
plate isn't better than cloth for every map, you'll be happy you have that cloth armor to switch to eventually
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>>164690670
>WoW is good though
Hahahahaha
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>>164694604

>virtov
>poor

lol. virtov gloves/boots are overpriced piece of shit.

poorman leather set is: shade top bottom + superior bandit gloves / legs. 2x lv 5 green gems on both

>but virtov give some dps

and shit accuracy. pvp = accuracy or block penetration. for dps pve gloves, get a red veris. they are the BiS dps gloves wih two slots 9so they outdps virtov leather on pvp at the cost of accuracy).

>accuracy
>pve
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>>164692308
I don't have one...
>>
>Go to dungeon
>Sit around waiting
>half an hour later
>Alright time to go!! finally got 5 people
>All the enemies just blow up
>Do it again
>Same thing
>Hit level 76
>Try dungeon again
>Can't do it 2/2 usage
>Wants token
>Token costs 2.5 million gold

>Go to leave
>see 10 bots farming the same spot
so.... this game is pretty much dead right?

This game is basically a lower quality more dead Mabingoi with less content and crummy skill/class system?
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>>164695268
>Go to leave
>see 10 bots farming the same spot


We know that this is shitpost because no one cares about the game anymore to bot.
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>>164692308
Healmage please notice me!
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>>164695052
>virtov gloves/boots are overpriced piece of shit
you're suppose to farm the items anon!

endless suffering, it is! all those recipes, all those materials, 246 eldigo claws! 140 infro holder bones! all those recipes! 20 hours well spent! at least its actually farmable for a catagoon, unlike the true bis

virtov gloves give the nearly the same accuracy btw. yes you get another gem slot but if you had the money to buy the level 8 gems you need to make it worth it you'd be putting them into lolopanther not superior bandit
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>>164695268

>wake up
>eat
>shit
>sleep
>die


welcome to life
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>>164670380
Oh nice, this is pretty good to know. If only clones copied overheats of skills as well.
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>>164695268
You're in the newbie land where bots can't get past and F2Pers tend to give up. Just get to 100 / Fediman and you'll start seeing people. But don't skip the main quests and miss out on free stat points from revelations
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>>164694354
you can be monk c1 for punching Inquistor's breaking bad wheel but that's it
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>>164695519

serious, virtov leather gloves is the worst meme that people fall.

consider the following:

superior bandit + two slots + two lv 5 gems = 2kk at best. much better accuracy

boots same thing, much better evasion.

virtov leather boots at least is decent as a dps since nothing gives this much crit attack, but pvp you want all the evasion in the world if you're going the leather route

if you use this set with lv 6 green gems too if you want since they are THIS good, but I prefer to save the gems for priorities (like yellow om pve armors) or lv 7 for lolpanther leather boots/gloves or hasta,

purely for dps, a CHEAP red veris gloves is the best. higher critical rate and two slots for 2x red gems so even lv 5 ones will outdps virtov meme gloves

>but virtov has a set bonus

dude, it was bad before, now after the hats + gems powercreep, kek. not worth paying extra millions for this. also, those equipment set bonus deserves an overhaul or a small buff a least to compensate the lack of the second slot
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>>164695519
>endless suffering, it is! all those recipes, all those materials, 246 eldigo claws! 140 infro holder bones! all those recipes! 20 hours well spent!
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>Cute has Canelle
how is this not the best /tosg/ guild?
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>>164697034
Firstly because it's called cute, not Cute.
And it is indeed the most comfy tosg guild in klaipeda. I can't wait until they rank higher than FP in GBL so I can proceed to end my existence with a smile on my face.
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>>164696153
you get 24 more accuracy ( or 30 block pen and 2 accuracy if you're gemming yellows) from the superior bandit gloves route, and 5 evasion from the boots, but you lose out on much more than 2 gems worth of stats compared to virtov.

its pretty close, but virtov is still better if were going purely by stat value. were full dex, remember.
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>eat fortune cookie
>there's no fortune inside
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>>164697489
you're suppose to eat it in a dungeon to receive your fortune
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>>164697489
dude you just ate the fortune
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>>164692308
he helps us to get cards and is a dummy
>>
>>164692308
Mine doesn't really like me so it's okay. I kind of want to quit playing for awhile now anyway, so its for the best this way.
>>
>>164692308

She's from another server
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show me your best cleric/diev/miko/inquis builds tosg!
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>>164698776
Well ok

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111777ig.1f2b335a6175.11243f5a6a75.1121334555.456585
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How do I know which type of armor/weapon to use ?
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What are you up to tonight, /tosg/?
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>>164700467
learn to drain properly that shit is 90% water
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>>164700467
at least turn the lights off on your stuff, I have a razer keyboard, i know you can do it
>>
is it shit

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411777555..75
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>>164692308
My crush said they just want to be friends
Which is weird because we were just friends, we weren't fucking irl or anything
So what do the mean by this?
Is it another way of saying they don't want to spend time with you anymore, but why wouldn't they want to spend time with you if you're still a friend
I'm confused
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>>164701053
They realized you had a crush on them (which you just admitted to) and want you to cool off.
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>>164700467
>watery pasta
>too much sauce
>doesn't use a spoon and fork
>geriatric looking meatballs
>diet soda
>shit game
fatty/10
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>>164700863
pretty sure druids dont take diev
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>>164700223
Ask people here?
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>>164701409
I read somewhere they're supposed to, maybe its outdated ?
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>>164701331
look whos talking
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>>164701425
surely there is a better way than asking /tosg/
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>>164701263
So if I back off a bit and play it cool things should be fine?
Okay I'll try not to spill my spaghetti around them, thanks!
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>>164701591
Its fine
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>>164701749
Go to the ToS Forums or a ToSBase? Pick your poison.
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>>164701979
So there is no way to reset the classes you pick, and I basically have to russian roulette a build and see if its shit or not, and then reroll if it's bad or a patch makes it bad ?
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>>164701816
it might already be too late, try not to let it get to you
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>>164700252

>dvd vaka

where's the blu ray
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>>164702069
Welcome to Tree of Savior! I see its your first time here.
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>>164701425
New here. Judging from earlier responses, I take it Monk is shit, so how bad is Dragoon/Lancer?
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>SP potions at 1,1

>>164701591
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411777555.1a2a345561.1121375a6a75.112f31475a618595
He's just messing with you.
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>>164701979
>ToSBase
oh boy.. i remember these reroll tier builds
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>>164702314
>SP potions at 1,1
That's why I made my own alchemist, I'll never fund jews.

And have no interest on being one, I just famr my own uosis by cucking WL's with counterspell, and craft.
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>>164700252
>Delicious Vakarine Dick
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I WANT MY HUNTER COMBOS BACK

WHERE MY HUNTER BROS AT
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how the fuck do people even climb i keep getting pre rank 8's on my team, or worse not a single cleric while the enemy team has 5 of them
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>>164684336

a1 sapper3 cannon2 falcon1 rogue1 (can't remember if falcon1 is possible at r6 but this build should be pretty meta considering cannon3 will have the highest aoe dps at r9
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>>164703132
By being a cleric yourself
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>hey I have two whispers
>maybe it's someone new wanting to joi-
>oh
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>>164703490
well i HAVE noticed a strong correlation between having ausrine and winning, and not having ausrine and losing...

really makes you think.
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>>164702996
Wait what happened to Hunter Combos?
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>>164703132
There was literally a zombie bokor in second last week.
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>>164702567

never forget alchemist mafia is real
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>>164703809
>there was literally a cleric in second last week
:thinking:
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>Gohei undoes counterspell

Why did they think this is okay
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>>164703561
Does dasfdsafdsaf want to join?
>>
Guys crazy idea, what if r7x countered the damage you actually would have done to them and not the damage you would have done if they stripped naked and reverted to a level 1 hanaming?
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>>164704165
Do you check under your bed everynight for clerics before you sleep?
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>>164704403
Some kids with PTSD might...
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>>164704375
>nerfing clerics
Fuck off swordcuck.
>>
>>164703809
>>164704165
It's that old argument
>lel not even T1 i'm just a retarded squire c3

Lower ranks don't fucking matter when your higher rank is broken as fuck.
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>>164704276
It undoes EVERYTHING.
>>
what skills for cleric 2 diev 3 miko kabba inquis? I have no idea what diev and kabba need to pick up
is carve good?
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>>164704918
Nope, just rank 2 and lower.
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>>164705006
Ask yourself first if your only aim in the game is to be TBL cancer and unsuccessful at everything else.
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>>164705483
>diev3
>kabba
>miko
>unsuccessful on everything else

Not even trying, are you?
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>>164705064
>tfw my heart is at least rank3 since mikos can't undo my love for them
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>>164705613
>kabba inquisitor
>successful at anything else
I mean sure if you want people to carry you just because you can shit out ausrine like a million other people who also can but took PD2 instead and can actually be useful.
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>>164706026
Nigga the damage from malleus' debuff alone can outdps a PD2 in a full party.
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>>164706117
>Max targets: 7
>>
I support with kriv 2/3 viable ?
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>>164706326
Yes it's viable and also the best single target dps in cleric tree if you go Int+Druid 2+Taoist. A lot of ET teams seem to use Krivis 3 without Taoist for various purposes though.
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>>164706435
You mean Krivis 3 without druid.

The ET build is Cleric 2 Krivis 3 x Priest Taoist
Priest for res obviously, and Taoist to cheese the afk floors with dark sight.
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>>164706326
>kriv2
No
>3
yes, Meltsis is OP
>>
>cleric priest krivis
how can I save this
>>
PvP is so god damn stupid now. If you attack within the first 30 seconds of the match against a Kabba you instantly die. If you don't have an oracle you can't move because you're perma CC'd. If you are a caster without invincibility prepare to die instantly to pears. Archer vs. Sage? Have fun. And all the people running these skills are full con so don't get any silly ideas like "killing them once their dangerous spells are down", because you'll need at least a trans 4 pract weapon to down them in any reasonable time.
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>>164707696
cleric2 krivis3 pd2 for ET
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>>164706578
is priest mandatory for ET?
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>>164707809
Somebody on the team has to have a rank in Priest just in case something goes awry. It doesn't necessarily have to be you but ET teams generally all use one.
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>>164707809
Not mandatory, but considering backmask no longer revives people it is the only way to ensure someone doesn't have to walk all the way up if a mistake happens.

ET runs have 2 clerics, one of them will be offense focused (diev 3 miko pd 2) and that build doesn't have room for priest. That leaves the krivis 3 to take the support circle since it's not like they will be doing DPS themselves as their whole existence is based around channeling melstis.
>>
Futureproof is now recruiting we have a mega waiting list because we are so cool so cool you'll drool. We take in only tosg players so firstly message cats and tell him the secret code
12/f/Japan
Secondly you have to afk in town for three days straight.
Fourthly you got to PvP 1v1 swaaz
And make him run home to his daddy
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>>164708064
>saying your asl without other side asking for asl first
Fuck off, I'm not an attention whore.
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>>164707765
>If you attack within the first 30 seconds of the match against a Kabba you instantly die
its a casual filter, just auto them once lol

>If you don't have an oracle you can't move because you're perma CC'd. If you are a caster without invincibility prepare to die instantly to pears.
just dodge it lol

>Archer vs. Sage?
just wait it out lol

>because you'll need at least a trans 4 pract weapon to down them in any reasonable time
so get a 4 pract wep lol
>>
When will I get my pract? It's been over 50 tries now.
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>>164707765
Thanks for putting everything into a single post. All those 1 button solutions available by going a single rank into a class are absolutely ridiculous. All those ridiculous effects that can 1 hit KO players with minimal investment, make you completely immune to stuff with 100% uptime with no drawbacks, etc.
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>>164708216
>>Archer vs. Sage?
>just wait it out lol
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>>164708064

What an alive guild!
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>>164708454
Is that now? We've been slightly more active lately but some of our members spend all their time slaving away doing solo dungeon runs for money so you won't see them much.
>>
>>164708454
Cute?
>>
>>164708216
>its a casual filter, just auto them once lol
It's the opposite you retard, tryhards have the hardest time against kabbas because they are so stacked in damage even their autos will kill them.
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>>164708064
Who is swaazys daddy?
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/4chan-guild-erp-logs/343090
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>>164709023

Fucking bait holy shit
>>
>>164708853
I will die to my own basic attack with an untranscended Cata Club, and even then landing a basic attack in PvP is a task in and of itself. The only people who are capable of not killing themselves on r7 are the people who rolled full Con cancer builds but are too poor to fund it and use cheap weapons.
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>>164708853
>Taking off your weapon for a moment is too hard for people

Dumbing down item mechanics was a mistake, people can't even be assed to swap armors, let alone weapons.
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>>164708853
>tfw dragonborn tries to poke off r7 but he kills himself because of his sage of the six paths ultra rinnegan madara pike
>>
okay so
cleric2 diev3 miko kabba inquis
or
cleric 2 diev3 miko pd2
for PvE
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>>164708981
Beethoven.

Swaazy is a teenage girl in puberty hating on her daddy all day long. Its kinda cute!
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>>164709129
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>>164709023
>SovietHammer

There was literally video evidence of this guy abusing Hook64 in PvP.
>>
>>164709343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5mBuUCwgHI
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>>164709227

Stop this cancer already
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>>164709130
He killed himself because of this
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>>164709465
No :^)
>>
>>164709636

YES DO IT
>>
>>164709129
>Swap to no weapon
>Still take 2/3 of your hp because you aren't a full con cancer build
>Die to malleus shotgun anyway

You don't even have time to do that in a real battle too, people are constantly running around making it hard to basic attack them and you can't freely position with statues and the omnipresent threat of getting grabbed by magnetic force.
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>>164709227
So tsundere!
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>>164709343
>>164709425
Make sure that is posted in the thread, if it wasn't already.

>>164709725
I wasn't defending it, but out of all the PvP bullshit, Revenged Sevenfold is the most manageable of all of them. My autos do 1 damage, I almost never died to R7x.
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yes/no

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4117772ee
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>>164709465
Saved it, thanks Lori
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>first day after the announcement of the 20% discount

I'm going to do 9x dgs full clear! +6x saalus

>second day:
Ok, 3 full clears with my best char, two with the second one and then 4 290 rushes! and of course, 6x saalus

>third day
9x 290 rushes +6x saalus!

>fourth day
3x 290 rushs 1 hour tbl and then dota 2

I'll never max my r8 utility attributes
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>>164703561
>That practonium cube
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>>164708728
No, cute has usually 10 or more online everyday.
And our max member count isn't 35.
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>>164709425
Saved it, thanks Lori
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>>164710027
That's what happens when literally every means of progression in the game is directly tied to daily-gated content that isn't even remotely fun, challenging, or interesting!
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Post nostalgia
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>>164710027
>Dota 2
Why are you gonna cover your pain with more pain?
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>>164709550
Jesus christ that's depressing. Although wouldn't the enhancement cost be absurd relative to the cost of just transcending it?
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>>164709971

people who think that a OP skill is manageable because the user is using it like a moron should be gassed

anon, pls, any kabba worth his tats will use it in a appropriate moment. the starting round at 5x5 is not always the best, and if the battle lasts long enough for a second r7, god save you because the cast is almost instant. good kabbas can bait snipe's click with this because of how fast it is.

but my main concern with the skill right now are pets being affected by it. good kabbas bait so much shit into their pets it's not even funny, specially if you consider all the pet de-sync teleport that happens

it's the same as the people who say that agny is balance because an lv 288 shitter it a +7 ignition can't dps r8 mobs with it
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>>164710027
Your problem is you really want to be plying DotA 2 and only play this game for PVP minigames. Give up and quit.
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>>164710324
>that isn't even remotely fun, challenging,
But muh lake! Who wants to run some log ass shit like Ruins that you can't even solo without difficulty? Who has time to kill every enemy in a dungeon?
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>>164710376
thats not even a picture of a spear you fucking idiot
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>>164709160
it just depends if you like spreading fire and aids or like smashing things with the wrath of god
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>>164710446
It's a skill that encourages a higher level of gameplay from players, which is always good by itself. The problem with R7X is that...

>You can get the skill with a single dip into Kabbalist
>Getting reflected damage will almost invariably guarantee an instant kill

If it was 2x or 3x damage it would still be god-tier but not retarded broken, but it does 7x reflections while completely nullifying damage. It has no drawbacks whatsoever and guarantees a kill.

>>164710585
>Who wants to actually waste time playing video games?!?!
Everything wrong with modern MMOs.
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>>164710614
um...
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>>164710614
>thats not even a picture of a spear you fucking idiot
>>164709550
Anon please...
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>>164710369
>>164710447

desu dota is in it's worst state ever. And I have like 8 years into this crap

thanks to ToS last patch and 7.00 dota (before you say anything, I really tried 10+ games, balance was fine except the monkey, talents ate nice but this new map revamp was retarded and they brought techies back on top of that), my dota playtime went to almost 0. i was having fun doing things out of pressure, leveling shitty alts, tbl and etc. but this attribute's opportunity is too good to miss

I need at least to get my 9x 290 rushes and 6x saalus and then go back to level my new alt with the cookies

tried dota again today because of my friends but lol

I think I need a brand new offline game
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>>164710447
Not him but my problem is there's a ton of people in this community that really should just be playing Dota 2 and it's difficult to even do the challenging PvE content that's available as a result. How can I ever do Solmiki when the community that I could be turning to for teammates is oversaturated with worthless full con clerics built to cheese TBL? How can I do the demon lord world bosses when nobody wants to do them outside of the top guilds because they don't want to just play the game for 30 minutes?

You can't play this game by yourself, it's like your only options are to join Crimson or to give up on the game because outside of high level PvE you're relegated to garbage PvP and doing solo dungeon clears of enemies that hit you for 1 damage.
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>>164710614
What is it then a fucking gun?
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>>164711251
its photoshopped
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>>164711328
explain
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>>164710919
It needs a lot of fixes for 7.00 to be tolerable, kinda why i started playing ToS again.

Hopefully our passion will return someday. For now I grind.
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>>164710919
I enjoy techies and this patch. I do feel like OSfrog has gone overboard on trying to force players to fight each other the whole game though and the spellcaster Ember Spirit build is fucking horseshit.
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queue for gvg futureproof
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>MFW I get the item I've been grinding for.

My dick is so hard.
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I'm about to start a new character and going diev, but do they have to like farm their own materials? I checked the market place and nobody was selling some logs of a determinate wood
also, is carve good or is it shit?
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>mfw im controlling the hat mafia prices AND the iumium prices
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>Leveling a new cleric alt
>Everything is going smoothly
>Hit Demon Prison 1
>Can't complete quests
>Try Bee Farm
>Can't complete quests again
Fuck you afk farmers I just want my exp cards you fucks.
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>>164712286
You can't do shit with logs, they're untradable and unsellable and you can't even use them for gem fodder but they drop from fucking everything. You can also buy them and I think carve makes them too.
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>>164712287
ionium*
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>>164712286
you buy logs from the diev master
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>>164712564
>not just using the power of silver to reach level 200
lmfao@ur_life
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>>164714441
That kepa has seen some shite.
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>>164712564
>actually questing
this is literally my map when I hit r8
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>>164715030
>tfw you have to do all those orsha quests to get the ripped piece of papers for the 2nd pract cube

i'm not looking forwar to it
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>>164715134
it took me forever to get Sage because I had to walk to all these maps I skipped
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>>164715030
>no bee map
>no demon prison
>no royal maus
so i'm assuming you didn't leach. howd you do it?
so i'm assuming you didn't leach much, howd you do it?
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uhmmm
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>>164715028
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>>164715456
>>164715429
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>>164715401
I just abused the 4x EXP tome event and did missions everyday, dungeon rushes, and logged out. I mean it took 2 weeks to reach r8 (I started to join grind parties at r7) but hey
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>>164715030
I only do revelation quests. How'd you survive 160-185?
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so, what's the main reason to pick miko?
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>>164715554
by dungeon rushes I mean those voucher spammers. Theres just so much free exp lying around, bee leeching is slow in comparison
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Is there even another meta cleric build at this point that isnt kabba pvp trash or miko diev shit?
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>>164715689
diev3druid3 is the solo pve meta cleric
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Where to level 250-280?
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>>164715903
Storage then Maven
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>>164715903
quest dailies storage
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>>164715635
be leech wouldn't have taken you two weeks
even questing would've been faster
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>>164715429
why are cows so traitorous?
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>>164715621
to counter the inquis cancer in pvp
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>>164715429
>two Lalacows going after your milk
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>>164716009
Thanks

>>164716045
Sorry haven't been on in 4 months what quests/dailies are there now?
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>>164716348
theres a fortune cookie event going on right now, they're like mini tomes of exp. You get 1 everytime you beat a mission or a dungeon, so clear some easy dungeons, then do missions.

You can stack up to 5 of them at a time
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>>164715903
200-24x Alemeth
24x-27x Storage
26x-29x Maven Abbey
28x-31x Timerys Temple
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>>164715429
how many erp partners has lalaco had now?
also who was the best lala?
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I am a new player and looking for a guild.

I just started.
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>>164716731
is that the 4th?
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I think we broke him
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>>164717081

uninstall this crap while you can
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>>164717098
I think 5th, at least
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>5/5 potential
top kek
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>>164717103
>uhmmm
That's really just going to be around forever, huh.
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>>164710446
It's so fucking bullshit how this is so true. I've seen kabbas fuck up murms, cannons, goons and a bunch of other classes by hitting their fuck you button. It needs to have a charge time or animation of 1 second in pvp and has to stop making people one shot themselves.
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STOP YOU FOOLS
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What skills for a full int pd2? Im thinking about incineration 10 healfac 5 ddm 5 and pandemic 5 but where should I put the other 5 points
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>>164717262
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it fails at +6

4th hammer in my possession that fails at +6 or +7 kek

guess ill never get +10 hammer without afk necro's golden anvils
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>>164717383
No, I won't stop til they're under 100k
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>>164717526
bloodletting has a 100% uptime at level 5, although I usually just get 1 and pop it when I need to. Beak Mask, disenchant, and fumigate are all pvp/gvg skills which you wouldnt do on a full int.

Either just save em or maybe get healing factor 6-7 for 100% uptime even without DM (sometimes I get lazy or I want to save my charges)
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>>164715429
>>164717103
Delet this
>>164716731
ERP isnt real, silly!
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>>164716456
>>164716562
Thanks.

Seems like exp got buffed alot?

I got 50% in one mission. Used to give like 8%.
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>>164717383
>>164717564
fucking event discount need to end
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>enh is trying to sell his account for $1,200
uhhh
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>>164717081
Anyone?
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>>164717914
mission and dungeon's base EXP got doubled

also if you see anyone shouting that they have instant voucher clears, join those dungeons because its literally an instant dungeon clear with full exp and cube for no effort
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>>164718034
whisper Beethoven
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>>164717780
So healfac 6 bloodletting 1 and 8 pandemic maybe? I dont know if that wouldn't be a bit overkill and instead put them in bloodletting for more uptime
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>>164717993
No one will pay that much for an account of a dead game in Klaipeda.

Maybe if he priced it at like $500 he could get Mergen to buy it.
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>>164718413
Pandemic 8's definitely overkill, that's like 21 targets with Pandemic and Black Death Steam spreads by itself eventually anyway, I'd just leave it at 5. Really is hard to say what to get, I like Healing Factor 7 cause that's 50 seconds unboosted, and the CD is 45. Maybe Beak Mask just for ERP.

At the same time it feels like a waste to save so few points too
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>>164718034
check OP >>164657046

>>164718184
is a meme, dont get fooled
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>>164718184
>>164718842
I whispered beethoven but he isn't saying anything.

Maybe I'm not doing it right...
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>>164710919
>I need at least to get my 9x 290 rush and 6x Saalus
>I need
>treating this game like a job
feeling sorry for you bruv
But even more for those that do twice as much of that everyday
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>>164718694
Ill just save them and wait for anything good in r9 then thx
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>>164718938
because he is offline and not a guild leader anymore

add a Guild Leader from OP to Friendlist if they dont reply.

CuteNotLewd is full tho
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>hunter3
>0 damage
>complains 10+ times that its too hard
never thought id see the day where a hunter is this autistic
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>>164719154
I messaged everyone but no one is replying.

Am I being trolled?
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>>164719305
maybe you are dumb?

>>164719154
>add a Guild Leader from OP to Friendlist if they dont reply.
wait till they get online
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>>164719305
You're not being trolled.

We just intentionally ignored you.
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is this game still shit

whats best class line for musk now

are the asia free servers still exploding

how about the US ones

should i bother picking up the game again at this point if i dont have any friends to play with

whats max lv now
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>>164719396
>>164719407
That hurts...

pls no bully
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>>164719421
yes

i dont know about musk

jp is high, kr low population

US server low population too

maybe try? its not better than before

330
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>>164719421
yes
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>>164719224

DONT BULLY PACKWOLVES SHE IS MY LITERAL WAIFU
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>>164719043
Doing 5+ sets of saalus a day isn't too taxing, only takes about an hour to run through them all. What really fucks me over though is the game breaks the chat system for some reason and when that happens queueing is impossible. Even restarting the game many times sometimes doesn't bring it back and that usually tacks on at least 30 more minutes to anything I'm doing.
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>>164719627
too late, shes clip#1 in my second pvp montage, ended up losing 3-2 but i still have 2 full fights of me beating cleric+murmillo 2vs1 with him complaining in party chat about how hard it is to kill people
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>>164717927
this, it really was the perfect storm of economy fuckery by imc

>release migo and attract literally dozens of fresh players, all willing to work for barely any silver
>tons of new items on the market for cheap, devaluing everything everyone has hoarded
>event pops up, everyone not retarded spends all of their silver
>value of silver goes way up, cost of goods way down
all of my markets got completely ruined, nothing is selling, and even if they did sell id be making half of what i would have before the patch..
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>>164719995
>literally dozens of fresh players
the funny thing is that it was literal dozens, the patch literally brought in like 90 new people in total
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>tfw my cure does more dmg than possession

Why IMC hates Sadhumans so much?
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>80% of my fights in TBL i have partner that does 0 damage
>lol swaaz is such shit he blames his partners for losing
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>>164720284
because Cure is one of the few skills in the game that actually scales with your INT which IMC decided to give to Clerics
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>>164719564
Sorry I meant the SEA servers, not the jp and kr ones. Im located in the middle so ping for me is about 120 to both SEA n US servers
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>>164720676
Oh, heard SEA servers have a decent or high population.
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>>164717383
Never, all jews needs to die.

Only alchecucks and jews would be mad by something like that spamming
>MUH ECONOMY
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>>164719421
Game is pretty trash but fun

Musk2 is more or less stand alone. Go fwee1 beforehand and you'll have a good time with it. If you want a build Arch2ranger1wugu2fwee1musk2 is strong and wugu buffs make it stronger. Can also leave out fwee and go wugu3 if you want.

The Asian servers are fine, assuming tels which is now free to play too and varena. Play on tels if you want to go to SEA there is a tosg guild there. t. not a shiller of Kuntzenberg

Not sure of the state of the US ones, though they seem pretty dedish compared to the SEA ones. In terms of population and shit.

The game like I said is shit but fun, nice to play with other people and friends. It is a bit soul succing so if you want to get into it be prepared to drop big hours into the game.

Max level is 330, with R8 being around 272-275.
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>>164720913
word, in a perfect world the only thing that makes money is selling blessed shards ( meaning you cant upgrade your own weapon ) and mindlessly farming dungeons for pure silver drops.
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Anyone have a good, autist-approved musketeer build? I know I could google it but tosbase builds reek of random br's putting their dumbfuck builds on the website with no one to moderate them. I could be wrong about that but wanted a 2nd opinion.
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https://youtu.be/S7NJXUv_tfs
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taking all donations from afk necros for attributes

selling popolions for over-market price (850k)
hanamings for 1.5mil
ioniums for 1mil each

need lv10 helmet attribute for shield lob so i can impregnate all TBL tryhards

uploading proof of concept in a few minutes
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>>164721442
>>164719421
ranger 3 for max steady aim on musket
steady aim applies after everything else so it's best for burst damage
if you don't want big burst damage though then go wugu with musket
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>>164721442
Nevermind looks like someone else asked the literal same question I did...
>>164721254
Also what is fwee?
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>>164721628
>what is a fwee?

A miserable little pile of support skills.
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>Worst dungeon run in my life
>Cata just decides to run right the fuck off in mid-battle
>Two clerics decide that this faggot clearly knows where he's going and follow
>Dungeon requires most mobs killed to reach boss
>Keep telling them to get the fuck back
>It absolutely will not sink into their heads
>Eventually get back together
>Both clerics don't understand the concept of healing
>One of them is a monk who perfectly matches the NO MONKS stereotype
>Finally, it turns out they're both korean
>No fucking wonder they get lost harder than an asian motorist
>Fortune cookie time gets pissed away

It's no wonder koreans don't know how to make clerics, they don't know how to play em.
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gonna give this game a try.
Is there any class that is literally unwanted other than monk.
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How the fuck did they justify putting "Fossilized Lizard Amber" on a mob that spawns in one map, one channel, three every minute with a very low chance.

What the fuck.
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>>164721512
imn uploading 2 clips which happened after this fight which will show what happens when i get lucky and (with useless partner ofc) i still win
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>>164721804
Alchemist
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>>164721759
So falconer but why would people do this for 1 rank? Is hanging shot that powerful because everything else looks kinda forgettable.
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>>164721804
sadhu/rogue
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>>164722067
Circling, anon.
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>>164721804
squires / templars / pretty much all swordsmen classes need to be exact cookie cutters or else they are useless.

pardoners are trash unless you go pardoner 3 + needs to be an exact build

alchemists arent good
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>>164721790
>ktos is so dead, they're coming here
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>>164721829
How can they justify in general having a channel system remain if half the game has 1 channel and the upper levels have 2. Bring back to how it was.
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>>164721804
sadhu, monks, alch if they have no support class
and BRs
anything that take up party slots and need spoonfeeding is hated
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>>164722125
The great thing about circling is that if you ever get a cluster of monsters big enough to finally use it on, your party has already instagibbed them all.

At least you get the best archer costume.
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>>164722243
>implying this game isn't dead either
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>>164722067
Circling eliminates monster's resistances to AoE, meaning that you can hit an unlimited number of targets within Circling. It lets you mob monsters with otherwise-single target skills like Multishot and Snipe.
>>
Do dievs tank everyone's FPS or is it just me?
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>>164722429
Yes.
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>>164722429
its a feature
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>>164722516
Fuck me no wonder GBL is so laggy since everyone and their mother rolls that shit.
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>>164722403
I see, I didn't really understand thats what AOE defense meant.

I have a classless(archer) lvl 100 from last time I played on launch and used a freebie class reset ticket from I don't remember what so just trying to figure out what to do since I don't have the luxury of learning as I go atm.
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>>164722713
>let's give this one class that is already broken as fuck in PvP a little bonus
>yeah how about we make their statues last the whole match
>sounds like an excellent idea
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>kicked for inactivity + telling half the guild theyre a piece of shit (and they all left)
top kek so this is what a normie guild is like
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>>164722187
>ardoners are trash unless you go pardoner 3 + needs to be an exact build

What build?
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>>164723023
cute wants you swaazy !!
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>>164721291
Thats a problem with the game design and has nothing to do with people wanting to sell things at the price they want.
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>>164723023
make a new guild and invite me!

im tired of begging these faggots desu
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>>164723043
Full money maker :^)
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>>164722932
>Hey, the other class made available at that rank is really hurting
>Better fuck it over even more at the same time we give those buffs to the class that didn't even need them
>You know... to be fair
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>>164723023
it's /Bullies/ time BITCH
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>>164722392
>He actually whispered Beethoven
hehehe
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>>164723116
>money maker
>pardoner
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whats the status of dragoons with rank8?
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>>164722289
Seriously just fucking kill me this is insane. is there a faster way? Maybe exploiting a quest in the area?
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>>164722909
You want Archer2 for extra crit rate. This is the norm for all Archers, the +25% crit rate is too good not to get. There's also Kneeling Shot which they have been giving more use for in recent patches.

You could then take Ranger for extra damage to your Musketeer skills, or Hunter for PvP binding skills. Depends on what you want to do. Just keep in mind that Musketeers are Musket weapon locked, so you don't want to pick stuff with weapon specific requirements for skills, else you'll have to make multiple weapons for the same character.
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>>164720325
Then play some 5v5 you retard.
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>>164723043
pardoners are secretly really good, kTOS has already realized this and has starting making 100% uptime of debuff builds
>>164723116
youll realize sooner or later when people start saying to themselves "wait wtf why was i stunned for 20 seconds"
>>164723087
going off of rumors, isnt cute lead by a husband + wife or something? with such little info about you all i cant tell if you guys are even doing endgame content or just log in for dailies then log off (i do dailies and log but i want to be taken to endgame in which only normie guilds do....)

ravens never did ET or uphill or world bosses, half the guild left because they were a clique (and i called then out on it multiple times and created drama) and the other half semi-quit and only played their "gvg alts" in which nobody ever finished

guilds are only for uniting people for world bosses + ET, otherwise everyone including me only does dailies and logs. id rather not bring your guild the bad karma in which comes with me name (due to me being a shitter + teammuhammad making teamswaaz and pretending to be me) unless you guys are in it for the long run and want to do bossing + endgame content
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>>164723248
fuuu!
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>>164723418
This look ok or did I step on a landmine somewhere?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/qvcnzsc47v/
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>>164723043
This
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whats the benefit of miko pd2 over oracle kabba inquis?

are both goodbuilds?
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>>164723780
one counters the other
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>>164723780
miko pd2 is more of a pve build.
oracle kabba inquisitor is mostly pvp.
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>>164723640
There's nothing wrong with it but I wonder, what's the purpose of Wugushi in this build? Poisons are subpar in PvE because most monsters in this game take reduced damage from it. Wugushi is mostly a PvP class since you can force the Damage-over-time ticks on people.

You only need Lv4 Circling, nothing in the game has more than 4 AoE Def Ratio. Can't help with Musketeer skills themselves, I don't know how to spread them. Otherwise everything looks good.
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>>164723780
Miko can undo counterspell and fuck over people taking refuge from fog-o-death within the bubble.
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>>164723954
Wugushi is me 100pct listening to what some other anons mentioned earlier. I have 0 understanding of why it would be good.

That said what are the other logical options for those two class ranks?
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>>164723426
2vs2 is like 500X better for my le epic jewtube videos.

only rarely do i get to be 3vs1 in 5v5s, they typically always end in less than 1.5 minutes. however i do agree when i get those 3vs1 clips its amazing
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>>164722113
>>164722298
Is schwarzer reiter viable?
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>>164723505
I know about the debuff 100% time, soo the good pard build is the support one? INT or SPR?
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>>164724095
Dip two more levels into Ranger for an extra 10% damage with Steady Aim, give up Ranger for 3 ranks of either Hunter or Sapper.

Sapper has massive scaling and, with the problem setup and help from Circling, can do insane amounts of Multihits. Hunter is the opposite of Sapper, 100% focused on single target damage but it's an absolute beast in PvP, with 100% uptime binds.

Depends entirely on what you'd like to do.
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>>164724220
good pard builds are "to be continued"
best bet is to wait for rank9 info and go from there.
theres gonna be a shitton of theory crafting for which debuffs would benefit best from pard3
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>>164723780
miko pd2 is a pve build
oracle kabba inquis is pvp/gvg build
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>>164723849
>>164723932
>>164723963
would anyone accept my solmiki application as a miko pd2?
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>>164724494
Diev 3 miko pd 2 is actually the meta DPS cleric for ET and just about the rest of the game in general.
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>>164724276
I'll probably go with sapper since my main goal here is to have something that isn't going to make me want to kill myself while leveling, and "single target" makes it sound like hunter will be such a case. If I end up wanting to pvp I can do a class reset later.


Thanks for all the help
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>>164722392
The only good and active guild is CnL
And it's full of normies
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>>164724679
ALSO does anyone know which skills are important in sapper3 with falconer1?
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>>164724683
I was going to try to ask there but anon said it was full.
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>>164724559
great, what should my stat points look like?
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>>164724679
The class reset you got was a one time thing. We never had that before and we likely will have very, VERY few and spaced opportunities for more. That said, I have a Sapper3 and I can tell you, they're fun AND easy to play. Perfect choice.

Before you ask, the wood you need for Broom Trap isn't on the Sapper Master, but you can buy it from the Dievdirby Master in West Siauliai Woods.
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>>164724494
>>164724559
Most solmiki groups want res in there somewhere
So it depends on the comp
You don't really need more than one miko, or more than one res
and you want melst and aus
So having a kriv 3 tao and a diev 3 pd2 is strong
miko or priest can fit in to either of those builds.
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>>164724868
Either full INT, full CON or anything in between depending on what you're interested in.
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>>164725049
>>164725142
thanks anons
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>>164724821
You max Broom Trap, Spike Shooter, and Collar Bomb. 1 point into everything else, and you'll have enough leftovers to max one more skill. Choose between Claymore, Stake Stockades, or Punji Stakes. They're all good in their own right, though personally Punji Stakes is what benefits you the most later on. Stake Stockades helps more during earlier levels but you spend so little time in it, it's barely worth it.
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>>164725049
For ET/Solmiki comps, the Krivis is almost always the one who has the priest circle, not the diev.
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uploading 2 clips today to prove im not useless after class reset

obviously i cant do shit against 2 full con kabbalists with an afk partner, but i still consider this a proof of concept

looking forward to people realizing they wasted 10 minutes watching this unedited shitfest of the TBL minigame in its finest cancer glory
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Why are you even here Lolipantsu don't you have that other game to play
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>>164725049
>>164725289
Alysse is Cleric 2 Krivis 3 Miko Priest Taoist
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>>164725510
Does that mean we can't fap to plague doctor porn and think of her anymore?
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>>164725657
no
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>>164725389
I have a very serious issue regarding getting angry over and entering arguments regarding vidya I no longer play. ToS isn't the only game I do this with, either.

Even more impressive is how you guys sniff out my posts with no hints other than my style and subject matter. And I suppose I always like posting the same images, too.
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>>164725657
No one ever did that though
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Does Ionium really drop from mobs in Seven Valley or am I getting memed on?
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>>164725918
Speak for yourself!
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>>164725783
Please, just go the fuck away.
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>wiz3linker2thau1warlock2
>pyro3linker1alch3
>pelt3squire
Are these the builds a new or average player should consider a must have in this game's actual situation to sustain themselves with low as possible expensee?
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>>164726037
ill tell you for sure, if you find out where that crystal-item drops for swift oghma gauntlets
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>>164726037
delet this
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>>164726037
yes
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>pelt3squire
Pointless

>wiz3linker2thau1warlock2
Why wiz 3? Just grind for agny and make a pyro
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>>164726079
>Go away, we don't want you in here helping new players with their builds
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>>164723954
This is literally so wrong. You have no idea how strong wugu is in pve and they'll only get better with the buffs coming.

Also

>wugu
>pvp

You a baka
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>literally only 1 timerys grind party shouted all day
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>>164726385
that anime has a penis.
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>>164726694
Why didn't you join that one party?
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>>164726564
Wugu poisons all got promoted to Lv2 debuffs, they're even more deadly now because you can't Oracle cheese them. And don't fool yourself, poison ticks barely tickle Rank8 mobs and so many of them are Dark that it's ridiculous.

It's passable but very subpar.
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>>164726897
How long until someone creates an auto-poison addon?

I wouldn't doubt there's already private ones working.
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>>164727501
>he doesnt know
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>>164727501
I meant auto-antidote, I'm retarded
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>>164727501
There should be something like that already, albeit not in the add-on manager.
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>>164727636
>he doesn't have autopot.ipf in his data folder right now
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holy fuck loligag i love shield charging cancer fuckers out of their safety zone
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>>164727501
autopot.ipf silly anon
It makes wugus and plague doctors very sad in TBL

bonus: you can right click incinerate to cancel it and someone made an addon for it too
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>>164721790
>>164722243
>koreans are bad
told ya

>>164722392
oh boy, these mean ppl dont answer you.... while they are not in the game
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>lvl 40 still no guild
why live?
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I wanna make a personal alchemist. Whats a decent build for it till I get there?
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>>164728278
Pyro linker with agny
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>>164726694
make one!
there had probably been like a dozen ppl waiting for a party.
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>>164727904
Hurry and upload the pvp vids already bby gurl
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>>164728304
Well that was useless information.
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>>164728594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zhGUMm8Ew

heres some clips i had today that didnt end in a total disaster
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>>164728278
>>164728304
>>164728614
Wiz1 Pyro2 Link2 Alch3
and buy/farm a Agny

was that hard?
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>>164726694
I'm sure you'll find lots of dps to protect if you shout for one!
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>>164728882
unfortunately my monitor crapped out and i had to use my emergency monitor (which is the size of a gameboy) so now all my aspect ratios are fked up.

i really hope i can somehow fix these aspect ratios when i start making my 2nd montage video. no idea how to because last time i had this kind of trouble it never ended well.
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>>164728965
I'm not even that fag anon
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>>164727904
You missed out, it was so easy to do before and you could literally chain knock them away from it, it would like you were dragging them along the ground, but they fucked up hit detection and you can barely do it now.

Rodelero has lots of little properties like that which help get stuff done.
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>>164728932
Thanks for useless info retard.
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>>164729081
But i gave you the correct answer, retarded doublenigga.
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before anyone starts shitposting saying "oh wow you had cata and yet ur bragging about winning"

this was against 2 rank-8 clerics

my partner was a rank 5 full con cata who did absolutely nothing

>>164729064
i dont mind the hit detection, ive grown used to imc's shitty game thats unbiased towards melee. really hating the lag after you end shield charge though, can almost never connect any attacks after theyre knocked down
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is it shit ?
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4117772ee.1a2a345561.112a34455a6a75.14253541
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>>164729180
Original Requestor, I wasnt this guy >>164729081

Why link2 and not pyro3? Why not something other than link2?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zhGUMm8Ew

9:45

does anyone know how this cancer inquisitor walked faster than i could run?

helmet gives slower walk/run but when im running im still faster than a normal class which cant run. did he really stack movement headpieces?
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>>164729476
Yeah, there's a lag after Shield Charge and Slithering that's pretty fucking annoying. My Barbarian doesn't have that with pouncing, and Catas don't have it with Rush either.

How are you enjoying Montano? It's one of the nicer things in the Rodelero kit.

>mfw have someone to circlejerk about Rodelero now
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>>164729535
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411777iee.1a2a345561.112939415a6a75.1121354355.152a3355617581
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>>164729572
Link2 is a lot better than 1
more hits limit and targed. Pyro pretty much need Link2

Pyro3 is not much better than 2
Breath sux, more Pillar lvls are nice but not awesome.
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>>164729580
Could be wearing windrunners.
Could have move speed hats.
Could be a bokor and have that movement speed skill.
Could be that you are misjudging your own speed.
Could be using /speed from hook.
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>>164729742
Alright, Ill take your word on it. Hopefully choosing the skills wont be that hard either. Thanks.
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>>164729669
im still learning, i havnt been using it in my rotation yet.

honestly havent been using any rode1-2 skills besides shield charge + slithering

i try to slow people with montano but debuffs in general are just dead content since clerics ruin everything

be thankful you quit. mikos can debuff ur helmet and their stupid skill has longer range than murmillo's scutum hit. also has like 5 second cooldown. is pure cancer.

i need to learn which "debuffs" rode1-2 skills give would be considered good to use in pvp rotation, im still being biased towards just headbutt + scutum
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>catacomb mission bosses don't give xp

KIIIIIM
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>c3 pyromancer
and still no guild

is this game dead?

is the thread just a couple autists or something?!
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>>164729926
I'd use that build too, if i maybe make or reset a alchemist.

circle1 of them are both rly shitty
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>>164730214
Why aren't you adding Merigolds or Cats?
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>>164730214
is it possible you're the target of gangstalking?
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>>164730134
any idea if catacomb mission drops anything special since the miko update?

still looking for this

https://tos.neet.tv/items/649012
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>>164730012
Wait, you're telling me Mikos can remove my helmet? Who the fuck okay'd this?

Montano is a surefire way of causing knockdowns without pushbacks, the stun and slow are secondary. It gives you a window to get 2~3 hits in.
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>>164730214
i just sent a guild invite to "164730214" but you dont accept?

you sound like a really annoying dumb faggot. thanks goddess my guild is full.
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>>164730374
kill yourself you worthless fuck I bet your shit guild is full and you're the only person online

go fuck yourself


>>164730304
i msged them but I still haven't gotten a reply

>>164730320
that sounds lewd
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>>164730369
i figured montano would be good, im just in a clusterfuck at the moment having 3x more skills than im used to. been playing squre3 my entire life

ya they have some sort of 5 second cooldown skill that removes ur helmet and has a range bigger than scutum hit. is literally retarded.

some shitposter from FP posted video of abusing it earlier.

>>164721512
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>>164730498
>kill yourself you worthless fuck I bet your shit guild is full and you're the only person online
nice try, but we are 20+ online average

we told you like a dozen times. they cant reply to you when they are offline. just wait
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>>164730498
>>164730374
I didn't expect it to be comedy night at /tosg/.
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>>164730356
I was looking for that too. Somethings interesting is that the mission list says catacomb golem is in the mission but as far as I see it isn't, might be some special condition.
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>>164730506
Enjoy your montano desyncs
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>>164721512
>>164730506
Oh that's ridiculous. The animation on the Helmet is ridiculously long, and only 5 seconds cooldown is absurd to say the least.
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>>164730854
im used to desyncs, i main a melee which doesnt use a spear. shit harder my friend
>>164730756
i really want these swift oghma gauntlets crafted. i can craft demonas gauntlets but i dont need them
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>>164730893
ya check out the clip he uploaded, it legit makes murmillos unable to defend themselves
>>164730756
cant seem to find anything in korean websites either. not sure why

http://toscamp.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=tos_db_recipe&wr_id=30547&sst=wr_datetime&sod=desc&sop=and&page=2
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>>164730214
Cats is a lazy wageslave and plays like a hour a day. more like the fake leader of neoFP.

Not sure if cute would like your kind..
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>>164729698
i heard priest was better because you have revive
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Is druid or miko-PD-PD more fun ?
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>>164731419
Depends on whether the other cleric in your static has priest or not.

Generally only one of the two clerics will have it.
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need help

ionium's data in korean wiki says

출현하는 맵 | Map |マップ

which google translates into

"The emerging map | Map | マ ッ プ"

does this mean "info unknown"? or does this mean "loacted in seven valley fedimian mission"

because it says the same for an unknown item called "Andesium" which is currently unknown as to how to obtain it. this wiki here is either saying "unknown" or is saying that "Andesium" is also obtained in the seven valley mission

http://toscamp.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=tos_db_item&wr_id=649012&sst=wr_datetime&sod=desc&sop=and&page=12
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Is this game still shit?
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>>164730935
How does one shit harder, eat more burritos?
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>>164731629
how am I supposed to allocate points for stuff like DEX/INT/STR/etc.
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kriv3 + druid3 or diev3 + druid3 ?
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>>164731702
whisper beethoven
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>>164731690
ye
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>>164731736
INT for more dps, CON for more survivability.

The ratio is up to you. Some people go full INT for max deeps, others go full CON to take on a more supportive role or be capable in PvP. Most people settle on a balance between the two that they are comfortable with.
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Should I do those monster kill counts for some delicious exp cards?
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>>164732363
Level range? Because if you're low level it might not be too bad of an idea because mobs die in 1-2 hits.
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>>164724191
pls respin
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>>164732363
You can reach cap by skipping every non-main quest up to 90, and then just doing regular questing with daily dungeoning. Going out of your way to do ineficient grinding like that isn't only unnecessary, it's outright stupid.
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>>164730893
migo exists to bully helmet bro
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>>164730012
So, I heard you're the new Rodelero on the block, kid.
Heh, fresh meat. I can teach you a trick or two. Learned myself from the legendary rodelmaster Loli "A fine horse" Pantsu.
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>>164721512
im literally disgusted by this. What the fuck is IMC even thinking. I know, I know. inb4 >thinking
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>>164733562
>A fine horse Pantsu
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>>164733562
pshh nothin personal kid

how useless is shield shoving + shield bash?

shield bash sounds amazing but it doesnt even seem to do anything. shield shoving i have not even tried using yet. i was told targe smash has good damage but since i dont have silver for helmet attributes its just wasted space on my skillbar.

>>164733745
disgusted about what?
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>>164731838
if you go krivis3druid3 you pretty much have to go taoshi at r9

if you go diev3druid you have more options also its a stronger build until then
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>Swaaz is Rodeleroposting now
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>>164733879
Shield Bash is godly against those retarded full DEX builds. Paradoxically, you need to be lucky enough to land it in the first place. Once it's done they're dead.

Shield shoving is a 3 second immobilize in PvP if I'm not mistaken (double duration), it's also subtle enough not to push the enemy out of your range. It's definitely a one point wonder.

Targe is only good after the attributes as a filler between your murm cooldowns.
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Anyone have the normal talt-chan image?
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>>164734124
alright ill try and use them. i havnt given them a chance. every time i use shield bash it looks like nothing happens (against bosses) so i never tried it in pvp
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>>164733879
Another rodelero here.

Shield shoving is a 1 point wonder, targe smash does great damage and it has a wide area too, Shield Bash is decent but not essential, as it's random.

Did you go with Pelt or Sword3?
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>>164734248
The stat scrambling is random, so the effects could be negligible.

Just leave it at 1 point, the damage at higher levels and the debuff duration is higher but you could just go and try it for yourself with 1 point in it.
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>>164734249
pelt3
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>>164734248
I don't think it does anything against mobs, if it does it's negligible.
Also remember shield push is a 10 second silence + knockdown chance on physical attacks in both PvP and PvE.
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>>164734357
oh wow, next time im given free skill reset ima just get shield bash lv10 since its not like having lv5 targe smash is gonna affect much when i have r8 skills to carry me
>>164734379
well shit im retarded i havnt even tried using it
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>>164733879
>disgusted about what
The absolute lack of balance in Gohei, and all of Miko for that matter. Pretty obvious Kim wants to fuck a shrine maiden. Meanwhile, Disenchant is a R8 skill, requires you to commit to PD, and when maxed only has a 50% chance to remove buffs, one use per 51s cooldown. I dont even minigame and this shit triggers me
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>>164734450
Targe Smash is the best damaging skill from Rodelero after shooting star, plus it pushes and staggers like Rush.

There are enough points in 3 rodelero circles to max both Targe Smash and Shield Bash because most skills are 1 point wonders, unless you only got 2 circles and didn't care about Shooting Star and High Kick for some reason (Circle 2 is already good enough if you wanted Slithering, of course).
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>>164734470
>4x overheat
>6 second cooldown
totally fair and balanced
it probably removes FF's flying + catas being mounted too lol
if it didnt remove helmet + had the same range as plague doctor skills it wouldbt be soo cancer. no idea why it was given 6 second cooldown with 4 FUCKING OVERHEAT though
the range of it is ridiculous, its like 3x more range than a base hit from a melee attack
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>>164734692
it removes Non-attribute mounting and it does hard counter karga yes.
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>>164734692
Gohei really needs to be given a percentage chance to remove and be only applicable to top line buffs and given a smaller range, like half for pvp.
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>>164734898
ya well goodluck with that, its tree of clerics
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>>164734470
>>164734692
>>164734898
>boohoo i dont know how to win miko nerf pls
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>>164735376
>i dont know how to win
>posts a video in which half of it is 2vs1 and i beat the miko cancer fuckers
troll harder nerd
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>>164735484
>i just beat some ungeared mikos
>look how pro i am
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>>164735691
>im a cleric and im bragging
nice try
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>>164735691
I wish i was geared
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>>164735691
>ungeared mikos
d-does that mean they're n-naked?!
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>>164735691
>ungeared mikos
>from alpha
LOL ok seems legit
ungeared = not full con confirmed
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>>164737006
yes!
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>2011
>Still using red gems on Stage 5+ weapons
Shiggy.
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>>164737862
Damn I made that image + filename years ago during the rise of Hi10p

Really brings back memories from /a/
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Describe your guild as if it was a Japanese LN title.
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>>164738393
my little sister cant possibly be this cute
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>>164738393
僕は友達が少ない
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>>164738393
Boku no Miko
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>>164738393

I Joined This Guild To PvP But The Guild Leader Died And Now Is Replaced By A Normie!?
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>>164738393
I'm the main character of a harem manga, but I'm gay so every day is hell for me.
inb4notaln
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>>164738779

Let me guess....thats CnL
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>>164738894

if you don't write on gook runes master race they wouldn't understand
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>>164738894
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Is ToS programmed by pajeets? holy fuck
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>>164738894
What is with these fucking asian MMOs not knowing what the animals look like. It happens in every single one where they name something like pig and it looks like a snake.
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>>164738393
My cute leader can't possibly be this lewd
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>>164738894
Wasn't that fixed a long time ago?
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who ready for a trip to the past?

take a break from this endless shithole to play the game that brought you here in the first place!

relive the experience today!!!

GETINHERE
>>164602314
>>164602314
>>164602314
>>164602314
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>>164739968
I'll probably play for a week though just to slaughter some porings.
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>>164739968
Why does every RO private server have inflated rates? Oh right because people will play it for a month or two, get bored because surprise community isn't the same, and then get hype for the next server because one guild will get ahead of the others and people can't be happy unless they're in the top dog guild with god items.
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>>164740370
stop describing tos pls
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Balance Talk: Jan 6, 2017

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=791
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>>164740495
these are all terrible
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Do you think IMC's handling of ToS is improving lately or getting even worse?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12041443
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>>164740495
>- Added stamina-reducing attribute to Double Punch

Monk is now viable!
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>>164740495
I didn't know about that Devil property thing for Warlocks, can it be spread via plague doctor? Wondering if you can kill packs with mastema+turn undead.

Monk getting less stam consumption on double punch will actually help a lot, right now even with +10 stamina armor and using pills I still find myself out of stamina and with pill on CD spamming double punch.
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>>164730214
The thread is bullshit and autism.

Come join Futureproof, I find you room.
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>>164740701
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>>164740786

Dont believe his lies, that guild is dead has fuck

>>164708454
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>>164739968
What does "equip minimum" mean?
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Lol honestly who would join a guild with the TBL afk bitch Trappe and under the lead of Cants?
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>>164741091
What up Dvine long time no see
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>>164739968
kys
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>>164741152
are you retarded? i dont use caps.

this general is still as shit as ever.
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>>164740495
>Corsair buffs
OH BOY ANYTHING GO-
>Its shit
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>>164740495
that Warlock couple is so cute :3
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>>164740495
Why won't they fix physical link?
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>>164739968
grinding aimlessly sure is alot of fun can't wait to kill 100000 porings to get my first job change!
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>>164740495
> the Cannonneer skills’ short range isn’t always letting them fulfill that role

Yea sure IMC, THAT'S the problem with cannoneers.
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>>164741558
The first 40 or so levels is the best part of ToS. I love smashing the big kepa and levelling up. Whatever happened to enemies like that in later maps? There's only those 4 meme mdef minibosses as far as I know.
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>>164741948
What is the problem with cannoneers? I never see them so I don't know how they're like. I always imagine them as like setting up some mortar that shoots at an targeted area like putting down a Zaibas circle or having some hove meteor like aoe attacks.
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>>164741948
You can clearly see IMC does not play their game at all
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i need an adult!
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What the fastest way to level alt?
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>>164742081
Then click No

>>164742116
always under the effect of 8x tome
Leech 1-32 in west siaulai
Leech 32 - 100 in royal mausoleum
Do missions under 8x tomes
keep resetting dungeons and keep doing missions
buy dungeon clear coupons for the 145 dungeon under 8x tome
Keep doing missions and resetting
go alameth at 205 under 8x tome
grind there until 242 or so
go storage at 242 under 8x tome
grind there until r8

Congrats you made a r8

depending on how many resets and x8 tomes you want to spend you can finish a r8 char in 1.5 days or so
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>>164742081
Do it for the lulz, faggot.
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>>164742287
Sorry, but what is leech and 8x tome?
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>>164742369
Leech refers to having a warlock friend guildy
massmurder fast respawning enemies with their specific skillset

It lets you level really fast

8x tomes can be crafted by combining 8 exp tomes from the cash shop and give you 300% exp gain during their active time
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>>164742461
>friend guildy
Yeah, not in tos i guess, Thanks anyway
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>>164742523
Whisper Murbish for free Warlock leech
Tell her Swaaz sent you
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>>164742461
can a warlock 1 do this?
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>>164742350
nigga i have hour commute + fulltime job and i play 5x more than you. play the game
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>>164742595
Yes but its a bit harder to maintain
Warlock2 can do it on autopilot while watching streams or something
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>>164742574
Wow, for some reason you are very kind. Hopefuly you had good holidays. I played pyro-linker before i stopped in july, dont really like it. Always wanted swordie. Are there any not really expensive, good and fun builds for usual activities like group farming and some mini gaming?
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what stats do i go as future monk (now c1) ? also where is the cookie cutter pastebin link ? I remember seeing it long long time ago in the OP and i miss it
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>>164742876
Anyone else love the new techies?
And the cookie cutter pastebin is outdated as hell now, thats why it got removed I guess
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>it worked
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>>164742953
>>164742876
Holy shit I thought that looked familiar.

He is way more useful now. Still fucking annoying.
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Is Dungeon Lv160/175 good for exp now?
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>>164742049
Cannoneers have a bunch of problems:

1. Their skills all have very high mana costs (120+) despite doing mediocre damage

2. Cannon skills all have 1-2 s cast and exit animation times each. So every time you use a skill, you are stuck in place for 2-3s. You would expect decent damage in exchange but nope.

2. Their skills have garbage AOE (~10 AOE ratio) unless you have circling (but that's because circling is really strong). While it's more than say Fletchers, the whole point of going cannoneer instead of musketeer was having large AOE. Right now Musket's covering fire + circling (tons of AOE multihits) is probably more AOE than cannoneer's whole kit.

3. The only buff that cannons can get to their damage is "smoke grenade" from their own class - and it only applies to cannons (Musket's debuff works for both themselves AND SRs). It is extremely low uptime (24%) and short duration for a mediocre debuff (+50%) that has long cast-exit times, high mp cost, and is very unreliable (ground mobs will resist it, flying and bosses straight up are unaffected by it). It is also a magic circle (but not extendable by anything) so mobs will literally just walk out of it.
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>>164742049
>>164743965
4. All their skills (except cannon barrage) are single-hits no-overheats which means even if you transcend to stage 10 like a whale, you (might) hit the damage cap ONCE and that's all you'll be doing.

5. Cannon barrage, a c2 skill, is a triple hit 2-overheat that deals barely more damage than cannon shot, a c1 skill. This is because the skill damage on cannon barrage is garbage and there is no scaling like cannon shot (which is +50% in itos and +150% in ktos). Cannon barrage also has the longest animation time of all cannoneer skills except bazooka.

6. Bazooka, the other c2 skill, is garbage damage unless you have QS3. If you have QS3, it becomes tolerable because the running shot damage and attack speed modifier stacks (bazooka has a really slow base attack speed so these buffs can only do so much). The drawback is a long 3s set-up and exit time each AND a minimum range to fire. This means if you (somehow) grab the aggro of a boss, it will move next to you and you have to spend the next 3s exiting bazooka. To add insult to injury, you cannot use any skills while in bazooka mode.

It boils down to, Cannons have a ton of restrictions on how and when their skills can be used despite their skills doing pretty mediocre damage.

IMC then has the audacity to come out and say all these restrictions are intended and the problem with Cannoneers is they don't shoot far enough. The actual solution is adding multihits to cannoneers either in the form of DoTs or actual multihits and reducing the amount of restrictions on skills they have.
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>>164744037
Bazooka is also trash, even with RS up. It needs to be able to stun or dethrone lock/slow mob/bosses down to near nothing. Otherwise it will always be fucking shit. It's minimum range is what really makes it shit. They also need to make it so RS is extended or some bullshit in bazooka mode otherwise it's just not worth using and locking yourself in place for.
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>>164743965
>7 points
>counted to 6
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>>164744423
I switched the second and third points and forgot to update the numbering
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Swaaz you can still join any time you salty little pizza
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>>164744631
Dead as fuck tb honest.
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>>164744631
once you do endgame content ill consider it
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>>164744631
How do dragoons keep their tiddies from falling out of that thin strip of fabric?
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cannoneer will never be good because of musket + linkers still exist

linker ruined the core balance of aoe vs single target concept that every mmo has forever.

100% sharing is retarded, even if you consider the aoe multiplication thing, still not worth
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>>164745130
fuck you, links are already nerfed to hell

kys
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>>164745023

good genes gravity defying tits. the most perfect structure of the world is a stacked young woman firm medium and well rounded tits
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>>164744965
I do ET every night because Exiles has claimed me as their ET healslut despite audible cringing from me.
Please help
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>>164744391
In addition to that Bazooka should also be a different modifier because right now it's

+10% to the RS modifier per level and that's it. Barely changes anything.
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>>164745414
im not a healslut though who gets special treatment
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>>164745023
Dragoons have disgusting flat, underdeveloped tits.
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>>164746859
uhmm If that was unbound, they'd actually be pretty big.
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>>164745223

>links are already nerfed

top kek this guy
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>>164746690
Nobody wants a kabbalist 2 because nobody knows what you do.
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Do I lose the gem roast effect when I level the gem? Can I roast it again if it does?
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>>164748567
Don't lose it
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>>164747408

Umm... Play the game?

A bunch of rank 8 mobs are immune to links.
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>>164748731
Oh I forgot to write "enemies need more fanart" there.
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>>164740495
>Barbarians using 2 one-hand-swords
IMC FUCKING FUCK URSELF
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>>164748613
thanks
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>>164749201
I wish they could. Or corsairs.
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>>164747321
>>164746859
(unbound titties) is there secret skill. OP as fuck.
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>>164749359
Or doppels. Just swordsman that says fuck shields.
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>>164749568
>Just swordsman that says fuck shields.
That's 2H types like the 2H spear users, Doppel, and sometimes Highlander. Actually that's almost every sword since they mostly use daggers unless they're Rode/Murms.
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I dunno about you goys but I'm pretty hyped for this new RO server
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>>164749672

>>164741039
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>>164749568
Fuck you, can't wait until murm gets dual wield shield attribute and a shield cyclone that makes doppels shit themselves in R9
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>>164749672
That is great anon, go play it and post in the RO general.
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>>164749759
Maybe you should consider going with him.
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>>164750323
No. I dont want to play that game. I like TOS!

And some other games sometimes but im not gonna shill them here.
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>>164750464
>not gonna shill other games to shit up the thread
>avatarfags

K...Keep me posted!
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>>164750543
Sure, i'll keep posting.
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>>164750678
Post that doujinshi where she sells herself to old men out of desperation and they rape her until she has a miscarriage
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>>164750809
That does no sound cute. And posting that would be illegal.
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>>164745130
Linkers have to be rebalanced, unbind is a nonspell. Spiritual Chain is heavily underpowered since it only shares shit buffs and destroy buff limits. Physical Link is literally considered griefing. Lifeline is heavily situational and not nearly as strong as people meme it to be.

Meanwhile, JP+HK literally screw the whole game balance.
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I have a request: someone, please, test TOY HAMMER in a pet.
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>>164752058
it proc at "each 10th attack" or so?
pets attack slow. dont think that is great.
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>>164752463

hunter's pet attacks fast, there's also the bird
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Saalus is only Lake and Defend the Statue now?
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>>164751975
>unbind is a nonspell
Does it work when enemies joint penalty you? That seems like it's purpose.

>Physical Link
I don't understand why they won't fix it. They don't even have to actually fix it, they can just upgrade the attribute that gives you more def when liked to give more def. If https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/205001 were even %, it'd be 8% more def, which is actually something.

>Lifeline
I don't understand what was wrong with calling it "Umbilical Cord". Was it too long?

JP and HK have been nerfed a lot. If you do anything else to them, they become useless. It'd be nice if IMC could think up some more skills for them though. All the lore talks about them balancing magic and regulating stuff. They should be able to fuck up enemies or change their alignment or something. Shoot out something like telepath that works on a group of enemies or just hook them. Linker and like... Thaum or Chrono should be swapped honestly. Linker is strong and would probably only have more strong abilities if IMC actually made them worth anything.
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>>164752723
correct

selling kirmeleech cards 2mil

whisper mia
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>>164752831
>Does it work when enemies joint penalty you?
No.
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>>164752723
The population wishes. Stupid shitty Mausoleum is still in and so is Canyon. I don't know why they couldn't at least make Lake and Scriptorium hard. Throw some bosses in there attacking the statue, put in three bosses for lake or something.
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>>164752953
>Stupid shitty Mausoleum is still in and so is Canyon
I didn't find anything but Lake and Defense in like 20+ Saalus, are you sure they are still in?
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>>164752953

>hating mausoleum and canyon

dude, they give like, 130~150k each. it's like a third shard
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>>164752997
Yes, has them yesterday.

>>164753000
That is not bad, but they are long and boring.
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>>164752997
Yes. I'm sure they upped the ratio of Lake and Script though.

>>164753000
I don't give a fuck. I don't run Saalus for $$$, I run it for those dumbass shards. If I'm going to have to do it, I want to do something interesting. In the Ruins mission,. you had statue defense, killing the circles, and then you fought the bosses. Maus is just a bunch of boss fights that could honestly all be in the same room. What's the the point of hitting the cubes? I don't hate Canyon because you actually do something there, but it's still largely just a boss rush.

I hate Siauliai for that reason too and wish they had removed that one from missions. What's the point? Make the missions random or something. Like every other mission is way more interesting.
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>>164753340
Oh yeah and the thing I hate most is looking at what they've done and the 290 dungeon, they're probably going to continue to make new content as braindead and pointless as those.
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>>164752831
Nerf JP into spreading fixed %, remove hit limit, remove -aoe ratio from HK. Phys Link spread based on health %. Boom, fixed.

If you need more spells, add some attack spell that expand existing link while dealing minor damage and something like a dummy summon that can be attacked with an unbreakable link with the target that allows you to deal damage from afar and allow single targets like bosses still be affected by the +% earth/lightning/poison attribute.
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>>164753340
It'd be good if the rewards were proportional to the more effort each mission is. I wish they had missions ranked in difficulty where they had say a rating scale of how hard each one was, not neccesarily longer for harder ones, and they have much better rewards.

Like say the hardest rating one gave 3x as much as the lowest rated one, then it'd be worth doing and reward those that did the harder missions.
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would this work?

make it so that linked targets do not share damage

give link ability to have +10 more targets max than the current cap

joint penalty will deal damage + will hold all monsters in place for 2x longer
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>>164753584
>Nerf JP
Might as well remove wizards as a class.
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>Finally get my weapon to stage 5 after two long weeks of selling everything and doing saalus
>Feel empty inside because theres not much things to use it on
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>>164753764
Use them on other people!
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>>164753902
>endless immunity, reflect, defense, othershit
hmm
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>>164721512
>swaaz salty as ever with his passive aggressive yellowtexts
Never fails to make me laugh.
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>>164753340

Shards are costing 170k on my server, anon. As I said, it's like a third shard.


But yeah, I agree it should be more challenging and less boring
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>>164753734
Wizards are so weird in this game, being supports. They aren't even better supports than clerics anymore though, like they used to be. Well missile hole might be on par.

They're also strange in that while their spells are all weak as shit, they hit so many times that in the end they'll be the strongest since 1 hit classes will just hit damage cap once and they'll hit it like 30 times per attack. It's also weird as shit that they have so few status effects they cause. I mean almost everything is a status effect, but all the other 3 classes have tons of debuffs they can stack on enemies.

>>164753727
>make it so that linked targets do not share damage
No, that's the entire point of links.

>will hold all monsters in place for 2x longer
HK was nerfed not because of link damage. Also it already deals damage.

>>164753584
>Nerf JP
No, that's dumb. Nerfing it before already made it shit.

>-aoe ratio from HK
No that's dumb, unless they make it a property of JP.

>If you need more spells, add some attack spell that expand existing link while dealing minor damage
expand or expend? If the latter, unbind is already that.

>something like a dummy summon that can be attacked
That's basically every prop in the game, particularly dirty poles and boss traps, and if hit limit was removed, the link would already be unbreakable unless you mean the creature could walk an infinite distance without breaking it, in which case: No that's dumb.

>>164753691
All current missions are like 1* effort. Ruins was at least 2* because it was so hard to solo.
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>>164753734

>best support in the game by healing
>infinite utility
>good aoe dps if you're not a retarded
>3 AAA pvp builds
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>>164753734
Agreed, wizzies deserve to spread 100% damage, bunch up to 11 mobs up and reduce aoe defense to 0 with two buttons: some mobs resist links.
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Linker class should be removed. Joint penalty reworked to be a Warlock c3 skill: Fatal Bounds
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>>164753972
>endless immunity, reflect, defense, othershit
>hmm

That's IT. Linkers need a way to forcibly link themselves to enemies. Link to a bunch of people with R7x on them and then take the hit along with all of them. The first hit hits everyone and then they all give their 7x through the links to everyone else again. Link themselves and then drain HP or SP or something. Link themselves and share bad statuses. Link themselves and share enemy buffs.

Actually what does happen if you link them an either
A: hit one so that they all take damage?
B: Use HK with the attribute that does a tiny bit of damage?
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>>164740495
>chibi corsair
wao CUTE
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>>164754354
Tldr keep links op else i wont get in parties
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Suggest me nice kino builds please.
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>golden bell cooldown to 120
Monks are saved!
>Rune of Giants
RC are saved!
>jolly
COrsairs are saved!

there is no company more clueless about their game than imc

play the gam
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>>164740495
>No mention of Gohei anywhere
>Absolutely no tradeoff for finding yet another way to fuck over zombie bokors
>Never going to fix Physical Link
>Refusing to address the elephant in the room that is Inquisitors
>Not treating Monks like the subhuman garbage they are
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>balance
>tos
Kys
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>>164755404
>Refusing to address the elephant in the room that is Inquisitors
>Not treating Monks like the subhuman garbage they are


>Memes
Glad they didn't anything you said.
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>>164755859
Instead of nerfing something i feel as though they should bring other classes in similar roles up to their level. Maybe introduce class specific gear that greatly raises the class's potential but locks them into a fixed and predictable playstyle maybe?
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>>164755312

golden bell will probably get a rework

Corsair is looking good desu. all it needs now is the % attribute for DWA (maybe capped at 50). QS3 could get one too

>rune of giants

I'm not 100% but RC doubles your matk no? Wizards skills are fine and they may add a hidden interaction for a shit spell like EQ on giant mode. Rune of Giant for Wiz skills could work like Bushin clones for sword 3
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>People still complaining about Linkers
>When the entire cleric class tree exists
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>>164756491


Core problems are around Quickcast, Joint Penalty, Haste, Swift Step and Clerics.
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>>164756801
>Quickcast
Not relevant at all in r8 since the only decend wizard dps is Pyro, which relies on Agny's far bigger multiplier.

>Joint Penalty, Haste, Swift Step
Completely balanced.
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>>164740495
Okay, I am going to bring this up:
Why is the Runecaster alone?
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>>164756801

>Quickcast
>A problem

There are 9 (nine) Swordsman abilities in the game that amplify damage in the same was as Quickcast. But many of them are stronger due to either a higher multiplier, or they can be exploited by party members.

Swordsmen also benefit from having a wider range of damage buffs. From straight up bonus attack, to crit rate and even crit attack.

They also benefit from the game just shitting on Wizards in general. Things like high MDef mobs while no mob has high PDef. Magic still can't crit (as such, it doesn't benefit as much from gems of which there are a wide variety of bonuses for physical classes but only 2 for magic classes). Dex is still the best stat. Swordsmen still have absurd base damage.

I could go on and on. The only class that has any right to complain about Wizards anymore is Archers, and that is because of one ability basically shutting them down.

Wizards as a whole are in need of buffs. Without a few specific classes/items, Wizards would literally be useless.
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>>164757634
The fact that swords do physical attacks means they can just use an attack or a weapon the enemy is vulnerable to and always have a 50% damage bonus without using any skills. Mages meanwhile have 0 non magic skills and have only staff attacks and daggers to cause other damage types. There's not even a slash offhand weapon.
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>>164755859
>Inquisitor is a meme

>Godawful monk behavior is a meme

Is everything a meme? When your racist uncle who can't shut up about politics at the table on thanksgiving opens his mouth, do you reply by claiming memes are the cause of all the world's problems? Do you check under your bed every night for memes before you go to sleep?
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>>164757860

Doesn't really work like that. Skills deal predefined damage types.

But Swordsmen have amplifiers for slash, pierce, blunt and missile damage as well as amplifiers for all damage types so they have literally every damage type they can deal covered anyway.
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>>164757912
Honestly, Jews and everything relating to hatred of them are memes.
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>>164757056
Because that's the Rune Caster Master.
There probably isn't art for the Rune Caster Class like the others have.
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>>164757970
>Doesn't really work like that. Skills deal predefined damage types.
>they can just use an attack ... the enemy is vulnerable to

It works exactly like that. learn2read.
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>>164758079

Same applies to Wizards. Except they don't have as much elemental coverage and builds are much more restrictive so it's not uncommon for them to only have 1-2 damage types.
As a Fencer most of my damage is pierce with one or two sources of slash. I can't just use which of the 3 I want at once.

Although you bring up another point. There is 3 physical damage types and like 8 elements. It's much easier for swordsmen to exploit weaknesses than it is for magic users due to there simply being less damage types to deal with.
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>>164758242
> I can't just use which of the 3 I want at once.
Yes you can. You still have Highlander or Barb skills. Like you said, mages are curiously the ones with one SINGLE damage type classes and builds. Not just magic damage, but magic fire damage or magic ice damage or magic dark damage, etc. If you try to mix them, you become less effective. I hope Mimic saves mages.

Also swords get those gauntlets that nullify their weaknesses too. What the fuck. Then if you want to go into spears, they get size bonuses also. And people complain about agny.

The weirdest thing is mages have lots and lots of bonuses to things they barely even have like lightning which has like 4 multipliers and poison and earth.

Do archers get bonuses to creature types? It seems like creature types only come up for restriction purposes, like restricting what types of creatures certain skills can be used on.
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>>164758904
>Do archers get bonuses to creature types?
They actually get less damage the bigger a creature is.
This malus is completely countered just by getting your main weapon to at least.
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>>164759123
No, I mean creature races. Not size, not flying or grounded. Demon, insect, plant, mutant, beast races.
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>farming corpse hand in tenet church f2
>channel 1/2 alternately closes
W-what's going on
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which skills should i max as inquistor?
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>>164759279
What is this game going to do when they add more maps if just about every map already only has 2 channels max?
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>>164759279
do you need help`?
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>>164758904

Archers get some bonuses to flying creatures.
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>>164759263
SR gets bonus damage on Mutant types with Pistol attack.
As in the actual C attacks, not skills that use the pistol.
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/311006
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>>164759432
>>164759263

>>164759458
I see. At least it's something and also not +10 damage per level, no %, like early on classes.
Like what the fuck is this, like it suddenly makes the skill good https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/202020
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>>164759408
I' almost done though but thanks for the offer.
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>>164759980

Who the fuck knows? It was probably added when damage was still relatively low so 10 extra damage was a lot.
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>>164760097
10-50 extra damage has never been a lot at any point past starting Kepa.
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>>164760201
Flare is a rank2 skill after all.
I mean, Pyro gets this shit too https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/202019.
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>>164760201

It's 100 bonus damage total on a rank 2 class. Most abilities at this rank don't even reach 200 base damage.
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>>164760080
your welcome
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>>164760275
>Flare is a rank2 skill after all.
A skill being low rank shouldn't make them absolutely useless.

This higher rank > better skills thing is pretty bad overall, renders lower skills useless unless they're multihit, because multihit scales each hit=you patk/matk.
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>>164760334
Fireball will do something like 5x that. Flare, whose original damage I don't remember, would do basically that damage once to an already burning enemy.

Meanwhile enchant fire would make every enemy take 50 more damage from any fire skill for a period of time, give you more damage, and give you another line on basic attacks. (which still isn't great. It should be something like 50% more fire damage)

>>164760275
You're right though. Pyro's attributes in general are trash. They need to redo them.
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>>164760510
>renders lower skills useless unless they're multihit
It really kills the reason to put more than one point in a skill without it gaining some greater utility. Maybe this balance patch that's upcoming will bring early classes in line.
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