/twg/ - Total War General

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>its a stab thread

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>>164654180
Rolla Rolla Rolla Rolla Rolla

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outta the way gobbos dis a krumpin thred

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So do people just generally like the Wood Elves? I mean in the lore, I guess. Why do I get all these diplomatic bonuses with everything but Dwarfs and beasts?

>>164654284

CRUSHIN' and CHOPPIN' not SNEAKIN' AND STABBIN' okay?

Praise Gork

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>>164654436
It's more to portray that the wood elves care for every outsider equally. Which is not at all and for their own gain. If the Elf-cuck knights wander too close to their forest, they'll help guide karak norn to the bretonnian villages to be razed.
Except for Beastmen, they're the main one true foe of the Wood Elves, even though they still will not care unless they bother the forest itself.
And I think there is a +stunties diplo tech, top right I believe.

>>164654484

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

>>164654692
COOP?
Campaign or like compstomp battles or something?
I won't be as deceitful to commit to a MP campaign. I can barely motivate myself to play a campaign solo, I can't imagine being held back by somebody else's pace.

I'll be in http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral chatroom if you want to do some battles or chat or whatever.

>>164654436
>green orcs

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Stabbiest thread

>>164654942
There's a higher percentage of hispanics in a lot of the former mexican states now than when it was actually mexican. They barely touched the land and indians just squatted on it.

How am I supposed to use fellbats? These flying creatures are new to me.

When will they release the fucking Bret update?

>>164655190
February.

>>164655164

Use them as fast, disposable units to pin down ranged units or to keep broken units running.

>>164655164

They are good for stopping mid charge cavalry (slows em down) and tying up enemy ranged units. They are pretty bad units and aren't very good outside of being fodder. Vargheists (next unit up in that building chain) however are far superior and much more destructive and versatile.

>>164655164
To engage targets to stop what they're doing. A missile unit from firing, or a cavalry unit from charging really.

>>164655190
2019

>>164655190

Tomorrow

>>164655251
>>164655241
>>164655232
Thanks anons

>>164654979
Cool. Its late now I'll check tomorrow. Pretty much looking for any Australian up for a coop campaign

I'm part of the twg steam group but no ones ever on..

>>164655062
Because Los Angeles is totally English right?

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when map bigger? WHEN?

Should I get Rome II? People told me to stay clear because it was shit so I skipped it and went straight to Attila which I really enjoyed.
But I really like the time period, is the game good now?

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>previous thread
>all those understanders of strategy from all around the world.
feels good man

>>164654436
Asuryan, the Creator gives Dawi relationship points.

>>164655717

The game was really only shit at release. It's much better now. It can be kind of simple as you learn rather quick as to what's good (building and unit wise) and what isn't. The politics is pretty fun. I would recommend an AI mod, since it can be retarded. You rarely ever see an AI blob. The combat can be boring as some factions (spear heavy ones, for example) due to many units having lots of armour and kinda low damage.

In the future, there's a mod for Attila coming out called Ancient Empires, which is basically Rome 2's time period and such in Attila's game.

>>164655717
I like Rome 2 a lot. If you like the period, get it. But wait for a sale imo. Total War franchise sale happens on Steam every few months.

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>164654436
Diplomatic points can also be interpreted as scheming. Basically you don't become super best friends with the orcs. You just learn to direct their destructive tendencies elsewhere.

>>164655663
Everything is a shithole, jesus.

When are we getting Grombrindal? I've been postponing my VH dwarf campaign for too long already.

Great Eagles seem good.

>>164655717
It's alright. The AI is retarded on the campaign map (poor strategic position, terrible army comp). Politics isn't anywhere near as good Attila. I personally prefer the setting though, and the actually units can be fun (although a little bloated in selection)

>>164656874
Next month.

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time to start this shit

>>164657236
>Toyotomi Tomotoshi

Kek that is pretty close.

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>no more Warhammer paid DLC

Rome 2 Release 9/2/2013
Attila Announced 9/25/2014
Last Rome 2 DLC 12/16/2014

>63 days in between last Rome 2 DLC and Attila

Attila Release 2/17/2015
Warhammer Announced 04/22/2015
Last Attila DLC 2/25/2016

>89 days in between last Attila DLC and Warhammer
>Fun fact if TWW released on original date of 04/28/16 it would have been 63 days

Warhammer Release 5/24/2016
Last Warhammer DLC ??/??/????

So to anyone saying no more paid DLC, fuck off you're so wrong it hurts. They haven't even announced the sequel yet. And in both Rome 2 and Attila they released more content after announcing their upcoming game. So stop with this meme.

>>164657717

You're not seriously implying that you meming some numbers out of your ass means anything or counts as "evidence" are you?

This is some Glenn Beck chalk-board tier shit.

>>164657236
got predictably fucked up

Jap castles are complete trash, atleast the castle at the Oda capital is god tier.

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I've been playing as the Jutes for the first time and I've noticed a couple of things that I wasn't aware of in my previous 200 hours of playing Attila

>low level general
>shitty leather/pelt armour, wooden bowl for a helmet

>mid level general
>nicely fashioned classic metal viking helmet

>high level general
>top of the line, reinforced viking helmet with gold embelishments, faceguards etc

Also
>winter comes
>generals wear animal pelts for the winter

attila a best

>>164657816
>show patterns over the course of a number of releases is less evidence then some random anons hunch

There is nothing to even imply there wont be more DLC. CA even said post-Welf DLC wouldn't be nearly as large. There you go case closed.

>>164657236

The UI in Shogun 2 is fucking god tier, god CA are a bunch of hack fruads.

>>164657816
>meming some numbers

the fuck does that even mean? speak english you degenerate millennial slug

>>164658085

I'm not saying that there won't be any more DLC, in fact I personally believe that there'll be at least one more DLC pack of some kind, it's pretty hard to believe that they'd just let the title flounder for half a year or whatever if they want people to care about it.

That doesn't mean this """""pattern""""" you've found in a sample size of TWO fucking games actually means anything.

You don't have "less proof" than the people who think there won't be more paid DLC, you both have the same amount of proof, none at all.

>>164658260

>cant figure out a good response so just memes a response instead

you gen-y'ers are the WORST

>>164658040
>fast forward to warhammer
>every empire general just has a helmet
>no variations between heroes

Fantasy was a mistake, now CA get to be lazy while autistis throw their parents money at overpriced DLC. Attila was the last great Total War.

I think I may have overestimated Durthu. His skills make him seem like he'd basically be invincible, I mean +30 to armour and all that? I haven't seen him go down yet I guess, but he doesn't seem to output as much damage as I'd hope.

>>164658438

>probably still lives with parents
>unironically calls boomers leeches while leeching off boomers
>got a shitty degree or no degree
>plays the worst total wars

>>164658623
>boomers
>not the leech
hoo boy I love judging people because I grew up in an unsustainable postwar boom that only occured because europe was in craters and the government actually invested in my country.

>>164658012
the first 2 are trash, but everything from 3 up is the easiest shit in the world to defend, accounting for AI.

>>164658623

>yes
>yes
>yes
>shogun 2
>the worst

someone post the roll chart for warhammer please

>>164658747
literally the second reply mate

>>164654253
Rolling for Gork!

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>>164654253
I hereby commit myself to playing what I roll, unless I literally can't. Will do my best to get the DLC.

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>>164658887
>fucking tree hitler

>>164658968

Time for the Siggy Diggy

>>164654253

Oh boy can't wait to get something shitty.

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>>164659019
I think it was the worst roll I could have gotten. I don't want to play this blonde haired faggot, and I hardly want to play Chaos.

REROLLING

>>164659079

Don't be a faggot Anon.

You pledged your word.

>>164659079
>I hereby commit myself to playing what I roll, unless I literally can't. Will do my best to get the DLC.
That didn't last long

I usually at least play the first twenty turns before quitting

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>>164659105
>>164659186

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

But I would have even taken the fucking beast over him, whyyyy

IS HE WEARING CROTCHLESS FUCKING ARMOR. Whatever, I'll do my best to complete this bullshit.

>>164659248

Don't tell me you don't want him to decapitate your arm and fuck you with it? Are you gay or something?

>>164658443
>attila
>not lazy

Sure it was worth it to spend all that money on differently colored spearmen

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>>164659337
>decapitate my arm

>>164659370
but muh pikes

>>164659370
Childish faggot.

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Does anyone else think the campaign aspect of Warhammer kind of fucking sucks? I get bored almost every time around 70-100 turns in. The corruption mechanics are boring, the building diversity is non-existent, the AI is just terrible, the map at least in the Empire has huge gaps of nothingness. I feel like the empire management aspect of TW is just gone and it's all about the battles. Except the battles get painfully boring after awhile and at a certain point you become unstoppable (like most TWs to be fair). After ahniliating the 5th Skaeling horsemen stack watching heroes do more damage to my armies than Big Bird or Archa-chump it just broke my will to keep playing.

>Shogun 2: Finished 2 campaigns (Chosokabe, Ikko Ikki)
>Rome 2: Finished 3 campaigns (Rome, Bactria, Egypt)
>Attila: Finished 5 campaigns (Saxons, Venedians, Geats, Himyar, Huns)
>Warhammer: Finished 1 campaign (Vampires)

>>164658443
>Attila was the last great Total War.
kek, total war was never great, good at best

>>164659689
>Does anyone else think the campaign aspect of Warhammer kind of fucking sucks?
Warhammer was the first TW I'm playing since Rome I where I finished more than two campaigns, so I'd say it's good enough.

>>164659689
>The corruption mechanics are boring, the building diversity is non-existent,
tell me about it.
I made a mod to add more choices to the building tree for the empire and now adding more building causes an instacrash.
Thanks CA.

>>164659689
I don't see many complaints about the warhammer campaign that couldnt apply to other total war campaigns as well.

>Download botet
>It's 7 gb
Is it stable?

>>164660005
yes.

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wow, tw players should be gassed

>>164659652
>says the one that calls lazy the one TW with more work behind factions and units

Better childish than a retard I guess

>>164660016
That's great; the main reason I never got into CoW properly was because it was so unstable

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warhammer naval combat when?

>>164660063
The strategic element is fucking braindead and you know it. It's either dumbed down or unfinished. There's a pervasive simplicity to the campaign for all the factions and it's shit as fuck.

>>164660348
Good that you think that, it's a shame that we were talking about fucking units.

>>164660294
>first fots naval battle
>try my hardest not to cry trying to figure out what the fuck is going on as i lose my 4 dudes to 1 ship

>>164660032
wtf I hate radious now

>Shogun 2, Oda
I built an encampment, what's best to build after?

>>164660927
the armour upgrade, always

I just got King and Warlord and Wood Elves. Who do I play first?

I still have Grim and Grave and Grombrindal left, damn it,

>>164661095

Refer to the opening post of this thread, friend.

Be sneaky, be stabby

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>>164661095
May as well start with the best campaign.

>>164661095
Belegar, so you can truly know pain.

>>164661095
Best gobbo.
Never touch the stunties. Worst gameplay imaginable.

>>164660927
Use the money to recruit more Ashigaru.

>>164661095
Dorfs are very, very boring honestly. No speed or cavalry and heavily reliant on the ridiculous stats their infantry have. Everything they field is tanky, even archers. It really just comes down to a lack of spice. All of their units do the same thing except some are better than others. Ironhammer is definitely the most fun dorf to play as though, but like I said that doesn't mean much.

I'd personally play as Skarsnik.

>>164661170
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>>164661207
>>164661336
>>164661468
>Not a single vote for Wood Elves or Argwylon.
Dayum.

>>164661521
They are fun, but overpowered. Once you get wild riders with shields and some eternal guard with shields it is pretty much gg. Also their archers shit on everything.

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>>164661170
>>164661194
>>164661207
>>164661336

>>164661521
I said gobbo to present anti-stuntie sentiment as strongly as possible. I forgot Welves were part of the equation.

Either way I'm just off getting through the awful seasons campaign so I'm kinda sick of them.

Tree Hitler is tied for best lord with Grimgor and Karl though.

>>164660927
armour upgrade, then money stuff. Starting province has very fertile land so it's a good money maker. Market (upgrade), Saki Den, and eventually a Temple because you'll be able to people a Nanban trade port/Quarter there. You'll have insane town growth.

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>>164661468
>Hates Dwarves
>Votes for Skarsnik
Why am I not surprised.

>>164660417
That's it's strongest point, I'll give you that. But the tactical battles are pretty shit anyway because there only like 4 different ways that you can actually fight a battle (siege, ambush, field battle and underground) while in Attila there are 8 different ways a tactical battle can go down. The sieges are actually GOOD in Attila too and I fucking love doing amphibious landings into a city while burning it down with arty ships. Marching through and INTO a city as your men throw torches and kill the peasents fleeing out of the buildings.

warhammer has a total of what, like 3 new unit types over attila, flying units, giant/monster units and heroes

whoop dee fuckin doo mate, it's fun and fresh for a while but unless they add more, that alone can't fucking hold me.

>>164661584
What is it with the Wild Riders meme, I don't see how they're that good.

>>164661871
They are insane. I can easily get 400+ kills a battle with them. I always pick Karl for the Reiksguard because I love seeing them slaughter everything early game and even they can't do that for me.

>>164661968
There are a million reasons beyond the Reiksguard to pick Karl over Gelt.

Poor fucking Gelt. Not even Gobbo Archers have it so bad.

>>164655663
So the Dark Lands are basically about Greenskins, Chaos Dorfs and Skaven fighting each other and Ogres sit around in the Mountains of Mourn?

>>164662052
I picked Gelt when I first started playing because he's a wizard and he looks bad ass, but I remember his magic being kinda weak. Am I wrong? He also couldn't fight for shit.

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>Destroy enemy transport before it makes it to shore
>But it's too close to sink
>The rest of the battle they're just stuck screaming on a burning ship
Brutal

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>>164662886

>>164661871
they have incredibly good impact damage

so what happens in attila if I destroy all the other factions in the game but still don't hit the 40 factions required for a divine triumph? Do I have no hope of winning it?

>>164663501
I think it is those factions need to be destroyed not you personally destroy them.

>>164661468
>muh goonsquads

just use more artillery ffs even though CA hate artillery with a burning passion

>>164663659
nah it says that you have to destroy 40 factions by either taking their last city or making subjugating them, and I only have 14

>>164658443
Since nobody bothered to call this out
>every empire general just has a helmet
>no variation between heroes
This is only true in multiplayer, and not even 100%

>>164663873
Get 'Varied General' mod, I think it solves your problem.

>>164658443
>Attila was the last great Total War.
You mean Shogun 2.

>>164663767
also there are only 9 other factions left in my campaign

>>164664209
I concur.

>>164663946
I don't have a problem, the other guy seems to
even then, empire generals have 3-4 different variants as I recall to begin with

>>164664209
But Japan is so boring.

>>164664675
That's up to personal taste. Not a big fan of feudal Japan either. But I still found S2 much more enjoyable than Rome 2 or Attila even though Rome 2 has my absolute favorite setting.

>>164662676
Lore of metal is the most worthless lore of magic in the game. In a game where magic isn't particularly good outside of three or four spells.

And yeah he sucks ass in melee.

>>164662676

Magic in general is just kind of underwhelming and while there are some stand-out spells (mostly buffs/debuffs and utility). Add to this the fact that Metal is the weakest lore and it's hard to justify taking Gelt over pretty much any other lord and wizard combo aside from the sweet getup and cool voice.

The best way to make him good would be giving his spells some special effects. The guy is the boss wizard in the Empire and his Searing Doom is just as mediocre as any scrub alchemist's and that's just shit and boring.

God if there's one thing I love about Shogun 2, it's the AI attacking you when you're setting up. Why the fuck did they get rid of this in future games and make the AI passive bitches who wait for you to come unless you have artillery?

Why do people say Chaos is low tier?

Been playing ladder and they are the faction i am most consistently winning with. Their infantry beat every other factions, and their flyers are strong as fuck.

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I guess this campaign is pretty much over

>>164662406
YES

>>164654253
Rollin~

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SOON(ish)

>>164654253
...Again

>fertile general marries a tribal midwife

oh boy

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>>164660032
/twg, is this true? Is what the guy said true or just something out that guy's ass?

>>164666605
>grom codes expired on the 3rd
>grace says grom has no specific release date yet other than "early in the year"
>groms been done and in game for months now

??????

Why not just fucking release him? I want to play an overpowered Dwarf demi-god.

>>164666835
radious biopic when?

>>164666935
>Why not just fucking release him?

Guarantee he'll be the FDLC bauble alongside another lord pack. Probably sometime after the Old World comes out.

>>164666835
i think this is true as far as i know, im one of those people who enjoyed his work for Shogun 2 (and i loved shogun 2 to death), along with its expansions.

I'm not a warhammer lore expert, but unfortunately i just wont have his mod anywhere near my game since the game already have variations, and now other people do much better work without ruining the specialization of each races.

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ded thread ded game

>>164667141
I mean, technically, he was already a FDLC with King and the Warlord.

>beat an ERE legion
>last unit to rout is a Mercenary Legionary Defector

>>164667210
The units isn't the only thing. He also makes the game piss easy by giving you a lot of money from the start. There is almost no upkeep.

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I've noticed that I tend to play Total War games extremely conservatively. In RTW for example, I'll stop expanding after taking all the neighboring rebel settlements. After that, I just level up cities and build up armies until someone declares war on me and then I go and take their cities until they peace out. Then I go back to sitting around until I get bored with the game and then stop. What do?

>>164658085
It's not a random hunch you dipshit it's official CA statements. They said wood elves was the last paid dlc

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If our Daimyo is to become Shogun: military ruler of all Japan.

>>164667947
Be aggressive.

>>164667947
take back every groodj!

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>>164668009

>>164668015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2XGp5ix8HE

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Trust a Gobbo, get robbo'd

>>164658167
well they do NEED to make the UI flashy and 3D so they can justify the wages of their 50% transexual dev team.

>>164667803
>quintus and his men had abandoned their station in western roman africa after years of corrupt and ineffective emperors
>sold their services to anyone who could afford them simply to survive
>eventually he and his men were hired by a general from the eastern roman empire
>quintus was reluctant to serve under rome again, but the money was too good to pass up
>whilst contracted by the ere their force was attacked by a much larger enemy army
>the eastern roman troops quickly routed once the battle went south, turning tail and running for their lives
>quintus could hear the enemy's men mocking the cowardice of the romans, laughing to themselves as they saw the army rout
>quintus knew that he and his men could ecscape, and vanish back into the desert, but the prospect of fleeing from duty a second time didn't sit well in his mind
>quintus knew that rather than going back to wandering the desert, begging for work like some homeless vagabond, he would rather die a true roman death, fighting for his country like the legionnaires of old
>quintus knew his men would follow him to whatever end
>and so, in the expanse of some dune filled desert, in a location lost to the sands of time, quintus valerius maximus, the last son in a family of roman soldiers that traced its lineage all the way to the ancient republic, chose to die with honor
>he chose to die for his duty
>he chose to die for rome

Quo usque pro roma ibis?

stable 60fps when?
make tw smooth again

>>164667947

Been playing since Shogun, and I've never been able to break the turtle habit fully but I have gotten over it for the most part.

Pick a fight whenever you can afford to. If you've got an army sitting around you're wasting a good chunk of the money you're making by building up your cities. That defense stack will only be of any use to you when the AI attacks (usually only if they think they can win) whereas you can use a stack offensively whenever you want. You'll have a much more fun campaign if you set the pace vs. having it set for you and all the extra dosh/recruitment from conquering just makes it even easier to make more/better armies.

>>164669437
HERE BEGAN THE FALL OF ROME

>>164669437
>by a much larger enemy army

my army was outnumbered 1.5:1

>and so, in the expanse of some dune filled desert, in a location lost to the sands of time

it was on the nile, just outside alexandria

good read tho m8, thanks

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>>164669437

Wew lads, Vampire Counts are so fun too play. No faggy archers or artillery, just sanic monsters and an unending supply of the dead.

>>164667947
play diadochi total war. i've never managed to survive as achea for more than 8 turns on hard/hard.

Anyone have the Attila roll chart? I don't want to play a Warhammer campaign until those faggot elves are fixed in the campaign.

>>164670151
They also have the most OP lords tbqh

>>164670151
Whatever vampire cunts.

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>>164671237
>the cattle thinks it has any right to speak
sorry, no veiny tits for you

>>164658167
It's great. How did they go from Shogun 2 UI to the eye rape unit cards in Rome 2?

>>164671392
>wanting to fuck some disgusting dead monster with whorish makeup plastered all over its decaying face

yeah ill pass

>>164671702
>he doesn't have a gilf fetish

Found the pleb.

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C O M I T A T E N S I S

>>164671804
those spice girls are going to have a field day

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>>164671392
The only way thats hot is when the Irondrakes burn that shitty waifu of yours up.

>>164671392
Vampire-chan's delicious thighs!

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>>164671702
Glady is only choice.

>>164672039
Sorry, I can't hear you from down there, could you speak a bit louder?

what happens if you build an army made up of entirely hawk riders?

>>164671392
>>164672219
This game needs more women, High and Dark Elves fucking when??

>>164672321
>muh representashun!

>>164672220
KAZOOK!

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>>164672219
Wardancers is where it's at!

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>>164672220

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>>164672219
Why is her head as large as her torso?

>>164672404
Fuck off, I want muh waifus!

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Why is Carthage not represented as black in the TW series?

Carthage was afro, and so was Egypt.

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>>164671392

>>164672469
Elf girls not thicc enough

>>164672219
>womanlet shorter than gobbos
lol

>>164672585
becuz CA iz racis!

>>164667885
Why? Warhammer is already easy as shit.

I seem to dominate all my campaigns by turn 50 and then it's just a fucking steamroll.

>>164672585
>>164672653
>>>/pol/

>>164672643
obviously, they're fucking dancers

>>164672746
?

>>164672585
Iktf, when will Total War have the melanin it deserves and historically had? We were Mediterranean kings and such.

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>Leave gobligates to me

>>164672585
it's fucking Mediterranean you prick.

Have you never seen a Tunisian person?

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>>164672845
>>164672845
Exactly, all we have at the moment are mods to fix the problem.

>>164672881

Has Tedposting really metastasized this much?

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>>164672881
C H O S EN
H
O
S
E
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>>164672585

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>>164672984
Are you sure about that?

>>164673208
He doesn't just look black he looks like some kind of superniggus.

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>>164672585
debate this

>>164673923
Superior Lorica Sqaumata, so you be sayin we wuz Romans?

>>164673208
Looks silvery to me

>>164673208
>blackhistoryheros
sounds credible

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BY CIGMAR NO!

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>>164674135
Look at me boy, I AM THE ROMAN

So I'm here getting ready to settle some groodges and now I hear sk

>>164674606
Fuckin' thaggora

>>164674456
>>164674456
How do you even pronounce that name?

>>164666605
>Bretonnia
>Middenland
Would be great desu.
I really want to play the Empire but Franz&co. are just kinda lame. Also blue&white is a much nicer color scheme.

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Why are beastmen and chaos campaign so boring?

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>Gobbo Archers

>tfw no option to play as another Empire faction
>tfw no option to play as Mousillon
Fucking why, it would make the campaign 10 times better

>>164667885
Yes, that is true, but to what the other poster said, this was all optional and modular when he started modding so it was all good. After all, new units and variations were badly needed in Shogun 2.

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Its kind of sad that only the front line of Orks get to bathe in the blood of Dawi while everyone in the back can only look intimidating and angry.

>>164675224
Just wait until next month, maybe we'll actually get everything at once

>>164675318
Just hammer+anvil them.

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>-115% movement range

how does that work

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>>164674908
Just like his dads

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Looks like the old world was put in a blender, time to autistically paint the map for 10 turns, then I lose interest

>>164675585
>be Dawi
>Wood Neets still exist
You bring shame to your clan.

>>164674965
Because you don't like horde campaigns.

>>164675741
Karak Eight-Peaks had priority but worry not grumbling Longbeard, their cursed forest will burn!

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Its been a long time without any news

The fuck is CA doing

>>164675980
Working on AE

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>>164674965
Beastmen campaign is pretty cool desu, the Chaos campaign really sucks though (which is a shame because the rape vikings looks so much cooler than the rape goats)

>tfw no Warhams dlc sale

Come on CA, just 25% off and I'll buy them all. I just want to avoid feeling completely jewed, let me have this small victory fuck.

REMOVE GOBBOS

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Alright fellow strategists,

What are we expecting from the inevitable Warhams 2: Ulthuan Boogaloo? While Warhams is fun I do believe that it was a proof of concept. A base to test whether the whole fantasy thing would work out. And its clear it did far better than expected. With that they better up their game since they have the confidence and resources.

While new lands and factions are a definite, more interested in what game play they will add in.

Firstly I'd like to see a bigger map with more minor settlements. Makes the order races stronger but gives disorder more to rampage on. A few times I feel a little squeezed in the map, especially when playing hordes. But the chokes in the map I do not mind, good places to control.

Villages. While open field fights are fun and in previous titles a rare oddity, in Warhams you get them enough and settlement fights are fun. Also would be nice to seperate dwarf holds from walled dwarf outposts since the latter is above ground. Get encampment fights too.

Sieges. Give us the experience you showed in the Thorgrim and Grimgor trailers with multiple fallback points and actually going through those cities the artists spend a lot of time making. Massive sieges requiring multiple attacker stacks is fine IMO.

If we are building ports and you want to include elves navies will be a requirement and amphibious attacks and raids would be fun. Infrastructure and fleet campaign models are in the game already.

Maybe army caps on "special" or "rare" units so that they can be in fact "special" and "rare".

What do you guys want?

>>164676156
But what about the boots.

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>>164676156
STAB STUNTIES

>>164676220
I doubt it's possible, but I'd love a randomized map mode for the campaign.

I at least would like more options for taking territory so you don't feel shoehorned into war with the same factions every time.

>>164676220
>Maybe army caps on "special" or "rare" units
Yes, yes, yes! Please!
It's just stupid and makes absolutely no sense to run around with an army consisting of nothing but Greatswords, Demigryphs and Steamtanks!

>>164676110
They might have one when the old world edition drops.
At least, that's what I would do since it likely caps off the major DLC for the first game.

Is there any 'trick' to make Attila run less like shit? Any specifically resource consuming setting etc.

>>164675505
You start walking towards persia, and suddenly you're in rome

>>164675505
so you cant move even if you switch into force march

>>164676640
I thought this could be easily implemented with mods. The difficult part is finding the balance on the caps on the high end unit for each race, which is why i think there's no mod yet for this.

>>164675505
He is moonwalking his army across the blue wide world

>>164676542
In order for the game to make sense in its own construct you kind of need a nemesis then shit to fuck up. Map painting gets boring after a while and just burning shit to the ground every now and then is fun.

>>164676814
Shadows, turn them off.

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Where should i expand now? Was planning to take on the Vampire Counts but Stirland sort of cut off my expansion to the east and i don't want to backstab them since they are one of my few good friends and trading partners. Also the Vampire counts went to war with the Dwarfs who are the number 1 power in the world so i don't think they will be a problem for a while.

>>164677480
Remove Aelf

>>164654253
Suicide if I get any sort of greenskin

>>164676220

Basically everything you said, more settlements for sure. The Empire feels so empty.

- More battle map types.
>bridges
>river crossings
>encampments
>villages
>mountain passes (like underway but yanno above ground)

- Make empire management actually matter
>tax slider
>tradeable resources are needed for building chains/units/technology
>public order that actually matters
>a rejiggered corruption mechanic

That's all I really want.

>>164654253
what next?

>>164654253

GELT

>>164677921
Perfect, sounds really good! I don't know how much we can expect from CA regarding the Old World Edition but I'm hoping they'll change a few things already, like some kind of 'pre-expansion patch'.

Why do people say Chaos are a chore to play?

>>164677650
Yeah, they might become a hard to contain problem.

>>164677442
See that's your mistake. Should've waited for him to die of nosebleed.

>>164678287
>'pre-expansion patch'

I can't find it, but either on Reddit or in one of those FAQs they do they said they wanted to revisit things like magic in the old world edition update. So I'm hoping it's exactly that.

>>164678309
Half of the campaign you just roam Norsca and build up your horde.

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So how does this thing work best? Am i supposed to send it in melee or just park it near the battle lines so that it can buff my troops?

>>164676220
>>164677921
So how do we get reddit to peddle this shit for us since they pull the damn strings around here? You know, have them do something constructive besides bitch about DLC prices while demanding CA to make shit broken due to shitter-syndrome.

best FOTS mod?

So how the fuck do you beat the OP woodelves? Apparently their wild riders can withstand a charge directly into my spears and just decimate them. Am playing as the bestmen and have gor herd spears and they do fuck all. Yes I am very fucking salty right now. They just confederate everything at the start of the game and then im on the backfoot cos no matter where I am Orion the thundercunt decides he has to beeline straight for me.

Fuck these stupid cunt gay elves.

>>164678814
Its pretty tanky

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Anyone had a bug with Durthu in SFO where you can't use his magic missile? The button isn't greyed out, but clicking it does nothing

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>>164679003
Fire, Lots of it.

What happens to Wood Elves when the Oak of Ages is destroyed?

>>164679003
>make Reddit account
>go to Reddit total war
>bitch about how you spent extra money on beastmen but twink elfs are currently making them unplayable
>hope for lots of (you)s, upvotes, or just samefag really hard
>CA might actually notice and fix it

Otherwise, good luck and enjoy your isolationist faction that steamrolls the map every single campaign.

>>164679310
>Reddit
Stop memeing right there.

>>164674965
Beastmen are awesome though. Literally can declare war on the entire world and survive because hidden encampments. Then you rush minotaurs and have the funniest battles.

>>164674965
Because you can't actually grow because Oricunt hunts you down from the get go.

>>164654253
I gave up my VC campaign and Tanuhkids is kinda boring so gimme gimme, if I do't have you I'll just claim the next one unlike those other spammers

>>164679310
"twink elfs are currently making them unplayable"

genuinely how it feels to play beastmen atm. Cba for it

>>164679642
LOL back to VC for you BUCKO

>>164654253

Got Ghorst fucking 2 times in a row, fuck you.

>>164679138
Nothing happened in my beastmen campaign...

THey keep on living and trying to kill me, but got killed by some ork tribes that destroyed their last outpost over in the dwarves area.

>>164676814
if you have it try opening Rome 2 first and then selecting Attila from the TW screen. it might work for other TW games as well

>>164678983
radious

>>164655717
>shit UI
>shit icons
>shit era
>gauls and germans split into 100's of irrelevant tribes
>Egyptians are Ptlomeic and not return of the mummy
>shit civil war mechanics
Also why are you buying when not n sale u cuk

I hate Vlad. Before Vlad was added to the game, everyone knew that Mannfred von Carstein was simply the best Legendary Lord available. He had the best spells, the best look, the best height, and could easily outmatch other LLs that were "tougher" than him. He truly was the Eternal Emperor.

But now with Vlad, everyone turned their back on Mannfred. They insult him. They call him a manlet when he's the tallest Vampire Count to ever exist! They mock him! It's insulting!

We need to ask CA to remove Vlad from the game.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>164680091
Remove Wood Elves too while they're at it

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G O B L I N S

>>164657236
>katana ashigaru
This wasn't in my base game?
>>164658040
Don't forget the banter between soldiers an their officers
>>164659079
And here we see the attenion whore spammer
>>164666835
>czech republic
Found your problem, every pornstar there that become popular starts his own company e.g. czech hunter

>>164680450
Only Ikko Ikki get katana ashigaru for some reason.

>>164680091
Fuck off Mannfred.

>>164666132
cost
>>164666000
because in S2 everyone had killing charges, whereas in later games they don't
>>164666605
>todbringer
Jokes on you I confederated him in the campaign and got free militia that way without DLC
>>164667947
play as France like in the coalition wars
>>164669112
>trannies
there's only one tranny involved in total war and she only became one to make tie comamanders GREAT AGAIN

>>164680252
At this point I'd support this, even if they didn't refund the $20 I paid for them. Every game is predictable as fuck now. Either fix them or get rid of confederation as an option because they are like a snowball rolling down a mountain except the mountain has now bottom do they never level out. They just keep getting bigger.

>>164680958
I just installed a mod which removes the ai option to confederate so hopefully my next campaign should go better

Still fucking retarded that the wood elves ai dont have amber restrictions like players. Who the fuck thought that one up.

>>164680091
Mannfred is still Eternal Emperor to me, dammit. His dual lores of magic just can not be beat. He has access to a flying zombie dragon. He is also very tall, check the lore. And on top of all that, he's also a top tier melee lord.

Truly Mannfred sits comfortably on the top of the legendary lord tier list. Vanguard deployment is a meme, btw

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>>164681545
I did. I knew it would eventually piss someone off :^)

>>164681656
>Vanguard deployment is a meme, btw
yes, since the vanguard nerf

>>164672585
>I don't know Muhammed greatest crime against humanity was genociding the ancient semites
>>164672881
lovely scab red paint u got there
>>164673923
>loyalty -2
yep he's a niqqa
>>164678309
because it takes too long to make a doom stack
>>164678983
unistall.exe is pretty good
>>164679310
anyone want to make a skype or discord group to held co-ordinate that
>>164679642
srs bro?
>>164680091
>tallest lord
End Times confirmed he was shorter than Vlad at least

Why is Empires of Sand the best culture pack?

>order admiral to attack enemy ship
>100 of his men just fucking jump into the ocean and drown, immediately causing his unit to rout

what the fuck

>>164682081
Need larger battle maps to really get a good deal from it

>>164680550
oh thanks m8
>>164682081
what nerf?

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Khaírete, my name is Mihalis.
I'm a 27 year old American philhellene (a lover of Hellenic culture for you simpletons). I translate Homeric epic and lyric poetry on my tablet, and spend my days reading superior Hellenic classics (Odyssey, Antigone, Republic).

I train in my hoplite panoply everyday, this superior armor can stop any barbarian arrow or spear-thrusts over a thousand times, and is superior to any other kind of armor in the world. I completed my ephebe training two years ago, and I'm getting better everyday.

I speak Greek fluently, both Homeric and Attic dialect. I write fluently as well. I know everything about Hellenic history and their Lycurgian code, which I follow 100%.

When I get my Greekvisa, I am moving to Athens to attend a prestigious gymnasium to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become a sophists for hire or even a professional rhapsode!

I own several togas, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to Greece so I can fit in easier. I bow to all beautiful and handsome boys and speak Greek to them as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.

>>164682765
Fascinating. Do you have Greek heritage?

>>164682389
It was possible to vanguard deploy on the sides and behind the enemy but since Beastmen I think the vanguard area was nerfed

>>164679837
shit brother? Is that you?

>>164682765

>Moving to Greece

If you're gonna move to a third-world country why not choose somewhere where your saving will get you a bit further?

>>164683289
>>164684023
responding to a copypasta instead of talking TW, come one anons its not even a quality shitpost

>>164682765
>but rarely does anyone manage to respond
They think you're a filthy Latin because of your toga.
Try talking to them bare naked except for a hat and a chlamys. Or at least wear a himation.

>>164682765
But do you use your spear overhand or underhand?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9hJhXsIBZU
>tfw no alternate dorf faction without the shitty -50% upkeep gimmick
I WANT TO TAKE BACK EVERY GROODGE

Where do you guys start razing in the Beastmen Grand Campaign? The Estalia settlements aren't worth a whole lot, going north has the stupid fucking Woodelf doomstacks.
First campaign where I've actually been killed off early in the game.

>>164683958
David?

>>164684383
Get Lokerian's unlocker and Cataph's Kraka Drak

Hard mode: Don't do shit until Archaon shows up

>>164675980
Been the new years holiday, they're finally back to work.

>>164682765
what do u call this meme I saw one with hitler and a katana, then one with laurence of arabia, right fag he was

Holy shit welfs are so broken

>enemy very light cavalry charges uphill into braced very heavy infantry
>gets 40 kills off of impact damage

bravo, CA

>>164684492
I would but I use SFO and I don't think they're compatible.

>>164684853
Do it anyway. Units just won't be balanced quite the same

>>164684670
Blame reddit.

>Reddit: baaaw, why can't my wood elves withstand a charge from chosen or black orcs? I don't know or care what this skirmisher stuff is. They need to be beefier!
CA: Say no more, pham.

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Damn, 3000 Greenskins against my 900 stout Dawi.
Somehow managed to pull through with about 300 surviving while the Greenskins were left with 700 men.
And fuck the Krimson Killaz, they alone killed nearly 100 brave dwarfs!

>>164684640
ken-sama

>>164684810
What game?

first time on /twugguh/ since just after gook got cummed on

what have I missed?

Any news from CA, lad?

Is it really worth shelling out 21 Canadollars for the wood elves if I'll never play their campaign?

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>>164685027
>why can't my wood elves withstand a charge from chosen
They still can't.

>>164685065
have fun having to kill those krimson killaz a billion times before your campaign is finished

>>164685089
attila

>>164685432
I bet gobbo archers could beat Chosen.

>>164685531
How many of those archers vs this one chosen?

>>164685779
1 unit of Gobbo archers is all you need.

>>164660294
Best moment in fots naval battle. In fact, most of my battles, ground or naval, in fots were super memorable.

>>164685432
>russian
i threw up in my mouth a little bit

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>>164685432
Fug

So where are we on "tiers"?

>Wood Elves
>VC
>Empire
>Greenskins
>Chaos
>Dwarves
>Brettonnia
>everyone else

????

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>>164686009

>>164686185
no im white

>>164654253
Rollllllllllllllllllll

>>164686009
>>>/leftypol/

I'm excited for BRettonia because they're my favorite army, but I'm worried because Grail Knights are kind of fucking garbage in the game right now, along with cavalry in general. Do you guys think that they'll get a buff when Brettonia gets its own DLC?

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Havent been here and didnt play for 2 months,what is offical consensus on wood elves?

>>164688853
The faction itself is good and fun, the mini-campaign is hard to care about

>>164654253
roll

>>164688657
Don't worry Radious will fix it with, Grail Knights (heavy shock) (shielded) (armoured) (ranged)
>>164688853
They were ok but then reedit kill'd it

>>164688853
The faction is cool, very overpowered though and literally every campaign has them confederated by about turn 15 and the ending typically has you fighting doomstacks they shit out until you can sack the Oak of Ages.

>>164654253
rollin

>>164688657
>Do you guys think that they'll get a buff when Brettonia gets its own DLC?
99% sure, I guess the men-at-arms will be nerfed though

>>164654253
rollercoast

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>>164688657
I hope grail knights get buffed too. In the lore they are basically "order" chosen.

>>164690305
No, they are not

>>164654253
rolling

>>164690305

In the lore everyone are unstoppable killing machines. In reality they're shitty humans on shitty horses. They'll probably continue to get spanked by superior Empire cavalry.

>Burn down Athel Loren.
>Chaos shows up a turn later.
Oh thank goodness, I almost ran out of assholes to kill.