/twg/ - Total War General

>>164759001
Yeah it's one of their traits.

>>164758768
Fight the battle, looks fairly reasonable. They have shit units for the forced melee fight that'll break out quickly when you're over the walls. Unless the second stack is twelve crossbowmen or something.

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2nd for Based Alaric

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2JJu7Eo6-4

>No Mention of Attila
>Asking for a "Build Your Own Race" feature

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>>164759121
Rollan!

I'll make another rolling chart, which one should I change/make?

>>164759259

>not wanting Shogun 2's avatar MP but with an army painting feature where an army is comprised of nothing but customized regiments of renown

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White Huns or melanin enriched Huns?
Which factions has which benefits, how did your campaign look like?

>stuntie thread
dropped
enjoy your garbage. Hope the elf shitposters show up.

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>>164759121
>>164759282
Propagating my new Shogun 2 rolling chart!

>No Mention of Attila
that's the biggest sin tbqh

>>164759373
White Huns, they're based as fuck!

>>164759373
Don't the white Huns only fight eastern shits? i could imagine that it get's boring fast.

>>164759410
I heard they are based, but how do they differ? I saw that the white Huns start in the Sassanid land, while "colored" huns start in the steppes. What else is different? Who would win 1vs1?

Anyone have a roll chart for ETW? Asking for a friend

>>164759337
Oh yeah, i'd like that. custom races is retarded though

>>164759282
Stainless Steel.

>>164759142
Cavalry are very strong in Attila, and towers are absolutely ludicrous. But starting units are supposed to be pretty fucking trash. Some do stand out though. Like the Gothic Warband.

>>164759484
If you're playing them you can go wherever the fuck you want.

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>>164759503
have fun

>>164759560
>entire France one region
JUST

Does anyone actually like the horde mechanics in Warhammer? I feel like you're just at a massive disadvantage, you're always bleeding money and are pressured into rapidly taking cities, but at the same time for both Beastmen and Chaos you also need to raze (and sit on your ass) for actual growth.

You can't replenish either, at least not in a decent manner, so you have to spend even more cash on constant recruiting.

And then the stupid shit that Chaos hordes are not even allowed to defend each other without being hurt.

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nth for comfy winter battles

>>164759485
white huns have one of the most broken units in the game with the spet xyon archers, which are a very light horse archer unit with good armor and a 50% missile block chance. They also have the hepthalite chargers who are the only cav unit in the game to have access to cavalry counter tactics. They also have the khingila's khandas, which are a more tanky version of uar warriors that are best suited to be main line infantry

>>164759259
Can't tell if he's paid off or a blind casual

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>>164759728

>>164759821
>Gamespot

Blind casual. If you want to know the opinions of the Total War silent majority, these are the people you look at.

>>164759821
>I've put 140(!!!) hours into this game
Just a fucking casual

>>164759691
HONHONHONHONHONHONHONHONHON

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>>164759925
>opinions of the Total War silent majority
literally correct, just look how radious' mods are fucking everywhere because they're the best casual magnets there are

>>164700106
Now that's an ancient image.
Haven't seen any of the TW countryballs posted here in a long time.

>>164759821
>$50 for 20 hours of content is worth it.

What world does this guy live in?

>>164760106
And how Rome II continues to be the most played Total War game in history.

>>164759691
One region Spain is even worse imho.

>>164760169
It's sad but that's the norm nowadays, players who want actual value for their money are dying out

>>164760106
It's...statistical mod calculation errors. Don't worry anon, radious...radious is not that popular, I am sure.

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>>164759916

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Reminder that nothing can defeat the Lore of Vampires

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>>164760397

>>164759691
I think we've discussed the issues with Empire at length by now.
Let's just hope they won't mess up this bad if they ever do Empire 2.

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Firing artillery at the Huns was the most satisfying part of the campaign.

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>play Belegar
>faggot Thorgrim takes Eight Peaks right before I can
>have to declare war on the faggot so I can take it back
>tries to have me killed the entire rest of the game

I wiped that nigger out

>>164759560
Why is the US missing?
>>164760769
When did the Huns invade Mars?

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>>164760526

>>164760013
>>164759691
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0eKcGAwyfxY

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>>164760813
>not playing Mars: Total war
LMAO are you even trying

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>>164759313

>>164760881
requested media expired :(

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>>164760976
Another old one. You get these colorful clusterfucks when you use expanded japan.

>>164760254
because it sold the most.

>>164760813
>Why is the US missing?
Damn you're right!
I always forget about them since they're not in the grand campaign

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>>164761127
At least I got to use my "loyal" vassal Akechi Mitsuhide as meatshield.

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GOBBO ARCHERS

>>164760169

90+% of single player games released these games don't even have 20 hours of playtime and also have zero replayability.

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Rollan for myself

>>164761781
>only 20 hours playtime
>played it for 139 hours
>Having a blast
>Only a few matches in mp

I even got it for 35 dollars

>>164761949
Good luck seeing what you got.

>>164760313
>nowadays

To be frank, many games didnt last 20 hours even back then, the ones that did were mainly rpgs

>>164761949
wtf why is it so small

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>>164762047
here ya go

>>164761697
WEZ GOBBOS

I need some gunpowder tactics protips
Specifically, I'm playing FotS and deploy my troops in a big line of line infantry with 3 or 4 armstrong gun + gatling gun positions (with carbine cav backup) thrown inbetween
However, a full army has so many fucking units that I end up filling out the entire deployment zone end to end and still having some line infantry left
Should I just use those for reserves in the center?

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>>164761362

>>164761949

Thank you!

Got sassanids (posted original small one)

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>>164762084
Who'd I get who'd I get

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>mfw it's stabby time

>>164759259
Total War was in need of saving? I always thought it was just fine.

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>>164761348
Kinda sucks that completing Road to Independence didn't unlock a late Grand Campaign start for everybody.
Would've been fun to play as some of the European powers but starting from a different position.

>>164762114
Nothing wrong with having mostly idle reserves. Casualty rate is high in FOTS so fresh reserves will become handy. You could also switch out those units for more arty or special units.

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

>>164761697
CA plz nerf.

>>164762245
I didn't. It does just fine with Attila and Warhams.

Even Arena was fun

>>164762245
Empire and Rome II hurt it's reputation pretty hard.
Attila repaired it a bit but I don't think enough people played the game to make a positive impact on TW in general.
Luckily Warhammer had a smooth launch und gets new content regularly so TW becomes interesting for the casuals (you know, the guys who bring in the money) again.

>>164762343
Gonna be fun.

Free stuff is fun.

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>>164762129
OC!

>>164762497
Only 5 more weeks.

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>>164759337
I fucking hated S2's multiplayer for that fact. Everyone gave their units retarded meme or cringey edgelord names and painted them all pink or lemon green.
Also as a newcomer you were fucked against veteran units.

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>>164762440
>Empire and Rome II
I'd say it was mostly Rome 2's fault.
Empire came out long ago and Napoleon along with Shogun were pretty good so people mostly forgot about Empire.

Rome 2 on the other hand was a catastrophe. It was overhyped to no end and the launch was just a disaster. It also made people remember Empire and how bad it was.

>>164762812
It wasn't that balanced that's for sure.

>pink

I fucking hated that shit.

>XD 100% PINK ASHIGARU NEVER DONE BEFORE

>>164762907
Those men saw things no man should ever have seen.

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>Finally master the secret of installing SS on steam version M2TW
>It's been years since I last played it
>oh god this looks so good
>the elegance of the map, the simple beauty of everything
>perfect balance between historical accuracy and gameplay
>picked up Moors, wishing to do a campaign where I bring peace and enlightenment through Allah, being merciful all around and building enjoyable things for the populace, such as libraries and other public services
>but first I have to deal with the three rebellious european kingdoms in the Iberian Peninsula
>amass my army in Cordoba, bringing together soldiers from the far flung edges of moorish Africa, as well as many siege weapons
>Council of Nobles demand that I take the castillan fortress at Toledo, which is briefly unprotected as the castillans campaign in Navarre
>The moorish army marches, a vanguard of lighter troops goes first to surround the enemy and begin preparations, the siege weapons follow after, and a back up army to garrison the soon-to-be captured fortress
>As the weapons arrive, I order the assault, imagining the epic siege which will ensue, eager to see all that hot SS action again

>crashes to desktop after the loading screen
>it keeps happening
>even on custom battles


I... I just wanted to play some good medieval era total war ;_;

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Is there a max immigration public order penalty in attila or does it just keep rising?

>>164762174
oy vey!

>>164763380
Stainless Steel more like Outdated Steel

>>164763380
Play Age of Charlemagne.

>>164763391

forgot to mention I'm playing as WRE with the fucking constant immigration. I'm at 9 right now in most provinces and if it keeps rising I'm gonna have some problems. Do I just have to shift governors around and use the -immigration edict? How long does it even take to build back up again?

>>164763380
>I... I just wanted to play some good medieval era total war ;_;
Play Huge Charlie

>>164763607
>>164763653

I know, but I wanted something more lower middle ages, AoC just doesn't do the trick, even though I loved the dark age medieval era things of it also

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>>164763380
>I... I just wanted to play some good medieval era total war ;_;
Age of Charlymeme is based, try it!

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>>164763886
Try Broken Crescent
Oh no wait, it crashed on me too. Idk fa'm.
There also is Bellum Crucis, but I hated it for it's extremely cheating AI, but you might enjoy masochism.

>>164763380
Play Charles the Man instead or vanilla M2.
Don't bother with mods man.

do building bonuses to units stack in attila? e.g. if i build two livestock pens (+10% to horse speed) or two smith's guilds((10% armor/melee), would i get a 20% boost to each stat?

DeI got updated to 1.2
Who should I start a new campaign as?
Tried Atropatkan and just turtled for 40 turns because everyone else was either fuck huge or already had a full province.

Man Beastmen battles are a total meatgrinder, that last battle for the Grand Campaign I lost my complete frontline of 8 rank 9 Gors.

But fuck, GW Minotaurs and Centigors fuck shit up and I'm really in love now with the poison chaos dogs to pin and destroy enemy missile units.

Sieges are borderline impossible though.

>>164762084
Rollan

>>164764559
>Sieges are borderline impossible though.

I think one of your agents got the sabotage walls skill(and 2+ holes upgrade) which can be really helpful.

This guy has some helpful tips like(keeping reserves close to the wall and apply when needed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WJhl_actKc

Starting a new Greenskin campaign.

Mods i will be using.
>No regional recruitment
>No Confederation
>Better camera Mod

Any other mods that are recommended?

>>164764903
Black Black Orcs

>>164764903
I meant regional occupation.

>>164764903
All tabletop lords
Black orcs
Bons varied generals
Building progression icons

>>164764903
>No regional recruitment

what does this do

>>164764903
AI buildings and recruitment. Makes the AI armies have some sensible variety instead of having 15 GOBLIN ARCHERS

>>164764903
>>164764983
>>164765026
>>164765052
>>164765230
>>164765236


Thanks for all the suggestions, a lot of them look good and dont ruin the game.

Can the AI still keep up if they dont have the ability to confederate? and is there still a way for me to get Skarsnik and Wurzag?

>>164764792
>>164764559

It's really annoying that sieges with any factions that has missiles and artillery is a total joke, while sieges with factions that have neither are near suicidal.

>>164764194
Bellum Crucis is the best, but the "realm divide" thing by turn 30 kinda ruins it for me as it leaves no room whatsoever for diplomacy

>>164765341
I am using an overhaul mod also (Steel Faith Overhaul) along with Cataph's new units (for border princes, brettonia) and moussillon overhaul and i'm having a lot of fun.

>>164762084
Roll

>>164765353
I find missles and arty useless in sieges. I just rush their shit. Breaking open the gates is a must if you have monster units. The fast monster units like minos and dragon ogres can fuck shit up fast.

Sabotage walls is really fucking good too.

>>164763923
Roll

>>164766006

>I find missles and arty useless in sieges

You can win an astounding amount of sieges with next to no causalities using just your missile units

You won't even need to move any units past the walls in most cases, except maybe your general.

>>164759282
>>164759410
>>164759560
>>164762084
>>164763923
ROLL FOR THE ROLL GOD

>>164766301
Karl Franz of the Chosokabe Clan uses the British Navy and Frankish Horsemanship to create the
H O L Y
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R O M A N
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E M P I R E
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Voltaire needs not apply

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>>164766478
>turbo autism
Here's the missing Napoopan rollan chart

how the fuck are you supposed to do anything in DEI

>try to recruit unit
>lol, bankrupt, but it's ok because the AI makes 4x as much money as you :)

>try to take settlement
>lol, nope, the settlement has a garrison of 12 units already, have fun with your spearmen :)

>>164766268
Are you talking about the "cheese" tactic? Either way I don't do that one because it's boring. Let just say missiles or at least arty isn't that good in "proper" siege assaults.

>>164766268
>>164767084
How do you do this 'cheese' tactics anyway? I always build siege equipments and not rely on my missiles/arty units since they are quite useless (not kill anyone behind wall cover, arti goes over the wall, etc).

Maybe I'm just not gut. I use AI mod and SFO overhaul, though.

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Let's take a minute to discuss Europa perdita+ Fall of the Eagles. Is it much better than vanilla? What are some of the minuses?

>>164766268
How?

>>164767249
You can shoot the shit out of the AI defending army if they don't have a lot of archers. Basically the AI won't back away from their walls(until you got them) so you can just shoot them to death by standing under their towers.

The arty cheese is by putting your units on the sides where they can't get hit by the towers and then just destroy everything with your arty.

Too boring for me.

>>164767305
its a much nore hardcore experience.
However FoTE seems to be abandoned.

>>164767519
Not sure if this is related to the mods i've been using, but besides the arty positioning, I can't seem to cheese it out.

> Enemies have balanced troops, so they have the archers/missiles unit manning the tower.
> I can try put the arty to the side so the tower can' shoot them, but even then, the arty shoots very poorly too and I can't get any good shot with them at all to hit shit.

>>164767569
Hardcore in what way? The battles or the campaign map as well. Do you prefer it to vanilla?

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I 'EAR TALK O' SUM NASTIES UP IN DA NORTH LET'S GO AN' SEE WHAT DEY BE MADE OF BOYZ!

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Did we ever find out why CA decided against making the Mughals and Danes playable in Empire?
The Mughals were obviously meant to be playable since they even have a campaign introduction let alone all the other assets.
Denmark was probably considered to be playable at least at some point during development since it's the only minor power with both a monarchy and republic flag.

>>164768814
>strength rank 1
Absolute madmen

>>164768981
Why did literally everyone back then have 80's hair? Even in the 80's, not everyone had 80's hair.

>>164767968
I personally do because vanilla attila felt far too artificially stunted by the fast changing fertility level shenanigans.
europa peridita does a great job of handling the transition from a complex empire to decentralized feudal armies extremely well.

>>164768981
probably shipped too early.
Plus the mughals have a pretty boring start because there is no way to simulate the shitty state the mughal empire was in at the game's start date.

>>164769118
It's a wig bruh.

>>164767772

All you need to do is put your lord a little ways in front of your artillery, the tower will always just shoot at him instead of your artillery despite doing no damage to him, that way you can place your arty somewhere where it can get a clear shot.

>>164769384
Mughals would've been the WRE of Empire.
You start with a huge empire but it's in a terrible state and everybody wants to wreck you.

>>164769797
>1700 Denmark

>A mercenary/german army and a norwegian navy

wew

Love you Denmark. Union when?

>>164769642
only there was no way to do that in empire.

>>164769516
Not all of them.

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>>164769983
>mercenary/german
Well lets not be cruel here that was completely normal back then. The Dutch also just used mercenaries and it went pretty nice for them.
I mean people back then were commenting on how unique the Prussian army because half of it was actual Prussians and not foreign mercenaries.

>>164762440
Ah, to be fair I didn't have a pc powerful enough for Rome 2 until Emperor Edition came out so that's probably why I thought it was fine.

Attila was way better than I thought it would be and I do love me some Warhammer even though the Wood Elves are the biggest cunts. Glad to see WH has done well.

Should there be separate general for TWW?

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>>164767379
Pic related

>>164770301
No.

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>>164769118
Cauze it is the '80s.
The 1680s.
>>164770036
What do you mean?

>>164770301
/gsg/ pls go and stay go.

>>164769983

>Love you Denmark. Union when?

desu Kalmar Union 2.0 is my secret wet dream.

If only Sweden would cease their relentless blanda upp

>>164770301
Nah

>>164770301
You know we did that once for the /his/ games. It lasted a hot 5 minutes. Just post about a game you want to and don't be a fag about it.

>ATTILA WAS TURK

>GREAT TURKISH EMPIRE

>>164771178
A really loose scandi union is a better alternative to the EU.

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>>164770301
Yes. We also need to split the forces of destruction and forces of order into separate threads.

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>>164770301

Don't worry anon

The next Golden Age of /twg/ will happen again once the next historical title gets released

>Beastmen mini campaign
>Marienburg invites Skrinderkind Warherd in the war against me

Yes CA, this is diplomacy at its finest.

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>>164770313

It's more like this, you use the artillery to destroy the two closest towers and the gate so your handguns/thunderers can shoot through them.

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>>164771178
>>164771347
Things that will never be united:
- Scandinavia
- Europe
- Austria and Germany
- Korea
- Ireland
- Arab nations

Live with it.

Any tips for the dindu factions mostly the Garamantians?

>>164771384
>implying beastmen aren't as pointlessly infighty as any other Chaos faction

The Dutch analogues probably offered them some dank kush.

>>164771685
>Things that will never be united
- Post-Warhammer /twg/.

>>164771685
You forgot Ancient Empires.

>>164771791
No, that one will never be released along with Medieval Kingdoms 1212.

>>164771765
What do you mean? We are all having a better time now compared to when Rome 2 and Attila release.

>>164771685
>Everyone always represents Spain with a nice tan.
>Can't get a fucking tan even if I lay in the middle of a desert for hours.

Feels bad man.

>>164771685
>Austria and Germany
Thank god, I want Austria and Hungary and all the other rightful clay back together!

>>164771929
>Attila release.
Attila release /twg/ was pretty comfy desu, though I'll agree post R2 /twg/ was a fucking shitshow.

>>164771961
Spanish and southern Italian brown-ness do not come from the Sun.

>>164771929
>Rome 2 release
The trenches of WW1 were a better time than that mess.
>>164771961
Stop being such of a Visigoth then.

>>164771978
>tfw no Danubian Federation.

>>164772027
>Attila release /twg/ was pretty comfy desu

Not right after. It was filled with shitposting and shilI calling

>Nordland loses their last settlement to Middenland.
>Middenland is confederated next turn, so Nordland can't take their settlements back.
>Forget about Nordland and focus on a war.
>8 turns later they ask for a military alliance.
>They migrated north and are fighting Norsca.
>Decline since they'll probably be dead in a few turns anyways.
>Another 10 turns later they ask again.
>Theoderic earned the title "Despiser of Chaos" at some point.
>He's moved even deeper into Norsca and I can't find him.
I think I've found my new Reiksmarshal.

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>>164771961
>tfw to intelligent to get a tan or govern the world's largest empire.

>>164772085
That's funny, because in the lore Gausser is portrayed as something of a cuck.

>>164772074
>it was filled with shitposting and shit calling
So nothing changed then.

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>>164771978
I want the HRE back desu.
Fuck Voltaire and his gay lover. The empire was comfy as fuck.

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>>164772074
>tfw no Danubian Federation.
stop hurting me ;_;

>>164772357
The recent threads and so on has been WAY better than that.

>>164771765
All of /twg/ with the exception of piratepoors plays TWW and agrees it is best to date though.

I can't be the only one who doesn't like Orion. I would actually rather have a normal glade lord or tree fucker.

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>>164772695
>I can't be the only one who doesn't like Orion.
You're by far not the only one.
I can accept Orion but I'd rather have an actual elf as some faction's leader or even better, give me the Sisters of Twilight!

>>164772695
He's a demigod, like the guy from the new Disney movie. Also he isn't an uke like other elf men.

>>164772609
Those borders are kind of ugly. They should absorb Bosnia.

>>164772828

Sisters of Twilight aren't Lord characters in the tabletop though, they're heroes, they're also not leaders at all in the fluff

Can any lord beat Treehitler 1v1?

>>164764559

If you find sieges difficult as beastmen you aren't using stealth properly.

Remember that the AI deploys based on where you put your visible units.

>>164773023
I know but I don't see CA making Ariel as a LL.
Would also be cool though

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>>164772695
>Looks about right
>Has the spearchucker attack but no Hawk's talon because CA hasn't implemented different gear yet
>Not sure if he has an accuracy bonus considering that fucker doesn't miss in TT

its a 7/10 implementation, Warhams II really needs to improve the equipment system. If KF has the Reikfang give him the model and different stats for it

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KHOLEK IS A BIG GUY

>>164764559
Bring 4 Cygors and upgrade them with Khazraks talents.

Why do I love Visigoths so much?

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>Mannfred marches across Stirland, suffering attrition along the way just to attack me
Certainly wasn't expecting that. Are all the AI factions this vindictive?

>>164773467
4 Chaos

>>164773802
Yes. In fact, if a faction is at war with 6 other factions, but then goes to war with you, they will completely ignore the 6 factions attacking their shit just to send every army they have against you.

>>164773416
he gets different stats up until you unlock ghal maraz. To be fair to CA they literally can't implement changing items on the models.

>>164759282
(t)roll

>>164773802
Is he at war with anybody else?

>>164759282
roll

>>164771978
No please, Austria come back. We need more south German Catholic territories. The Protestant autism is just getting out of hand otherwise.

>>164759410
roll

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>The Huns are destroying the world better than chaos was in my warhammer campaign
What the fuck

>>164774570
Attila >>>>> Archaon

The Huns are the true Warriors of Chaos, Attila the true Everchosen!

>>164774570
>>164774715
The true chosen of Chaos are the Mongols in M2. The only thing holding them back was mechanics which meant they had to occupy cities rather than obliterating them.

>>164774570
Which is actually a bad thing because it kinda makes the late game in Attila pretty boring. No big rival empires because the AI gets wrecked or strave to death.

At least mods fix some of it kinda.

>>164759282
rollare

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>>164774153
Those stats don't really mean much. And is making a different model and swapping models depending on gear choice really that hard? Not that I am a game developer or anything.

It would be nice to buy the infantry unit (like chaos warrior) then buy them gear (shield, second handweapon, greatweapon) and swap them out depending on upcoming fights. They already do this with character mounts and change upkeep cost accordingly.

It'd also be nice if Slayers and Black Orcs get their special rules to switch weapons in combat too. More decisions, more tactics.

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>>164774570
>>164774715

Attila the true Everchosen mod when?

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Attila vs Archeon when

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>>164774265
Yes. Stirland and Averland for example.

>>164775771
Check the power bar in the diplomacy screen. If it is still large after that battle then he got a good amount of armies.

>>164775771
>That many spearmen
Early game doesn't have that much large, 2 and some xbows got that vargy handled

why are shogun 2 cavalry charges so satisfying

>>164774887
the AI recolonization mod fixes this but it also makes fighting the huns much easier

>>164774887
That's not happening in my game the huns are just running around my enemies killing rome and everyone im neutral with. So I see a huge clusterfuck of razed settlements behind my enemies armies.

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>>164775910
They were rank 1 when they started the war. The power bar is about even after they lost that battle. Still not accepting peace though.
>>164776084
Spears are just a personal preference of mine in every total war game. They are slightly more defense oriented than swordsmen which is just fine since their only purpose is to just hold the main battle line long enough for me to flank with other units.

>>164774909
the item swapping isn't possible on warscape, some CA guy on total war centre said they realized pretty early on that they couldn't do it. As for the black orc rule, I'm not sure but I think they have anti infantry, which in total war terms is approximate to having two hand weapons in tabletop. Also I thought Slayers don't get to switch hand weapons, could be wrong but then anti infantry slayers would be pointless.

>>164762221
REMOVE GOBBOS

>>164759282
Need a break from my Empire campaign. Archaon is still up in Kraka Drak and I already cucked Bretonnia/Athel Loren.

Getting back into Medieval 2 but am getting tired of vanilla. What are your guys thoughts on Stainless Steel vs DarthMod?

The last I heard was Stainless has really long turn times and Darthmod made Cav OP as all hell.

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>>164777929
Missile infantry switch weapons so I don't get it

Dual handweapons means more attacks, biguns have duals and have a higher non-AP WS

Greatweapons means more WS and AP

Slayers can flop between gutting unarmored trolls or go for chopping tree armor and such

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>tfw you thought all was lost and Spain was doomed
>but Antonio is there to save the day
He's already 51 years old. Hopefully he can last long enough, the man is winning back the Mediterranean for me one battle at a time.

deader than pontus

>>164779917
>pontus
>dead
take that back, you're no trve vnderstander!

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What a deadly game.

>>164780316
>Unbenannt2.png
Get out here, Kraut!

>>164779917
Last night the crying of the children kept me awake and I had a terrible vision.

>>164771628
>wasting ammo on gates when your general can bash them down himself
>wasting ammo on a second tower

you're a hundred years too young to master the ways of the cheese

>>164780982

>when your general can bash them down himself

Except when they can't?

What fucking Empire lords have the siege attacker trait?

>>164781114
Units can attack gates even without the trait, it just takes a bit longer usually, and you need at least one unit with it to assault at all. Lords do it pretty well because of the high damage.

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Shaving beards and killing traitors when?

I want to use >muh roman tactix with best elves to repel Chaos, return the Phoenix Crown and destroy the traitor king!

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>Gelt will never be buffed

I'm playing him anyway, I don't want to play the Emperor for some reason.

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>>164781438
>lose control of a good chunk of our people
>Be a massive cunt about raids your renegades did
>instead of trying to figure out the situation and repair the damage done, engulf your kingdom in a war that all but destroyed it to an irreparable state of decline

nah those douchebags can bite it with the rest of the elfs, at least Dark Elfs are straight up pricks without the false-righteous line of shit

>>164781715
Probably because gold is a very valuable commodity and he's forcing you to submit to your servile instincts.

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When?
I want to play a cool human faction!!!

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Asking this again

Is it possible to remove all factions other than Bretonnia/Empire and Goblins? If it's not possible to downright remove factions, making them really weak is fine too.

>>164781715
I have high expectations of the Old World edition, CA (hopefully) got more money than normally for this one and will fix pretty much everything that's fucked atm.
>Gelt, Azhag and Kemmler buffed
>Magic buffed
>Chaos campaign actually good
>Sieges at least a bit changed, e.g. tower range nerfed and rams useful
>forced march reworked
>AI recruitment reworked
>AI Wood Elves fucking nerfed to oblivion

>>164782242
Friendly reminder that elves/dwarfs/fantasy races still exist in the Goblin Slayer manga. You should probably look into buffing Greenskins so they win the Badlands rather than remove all of the other factions. Custom battles against goblin armies could also be fun. When I'm playing Empire, it's not that hard to get the other Empire Provinces to fuck off or on your side, which usually gets the VC to fuck off. There are also mods to delay/remove the Chaos invasion if that bothers you.

>>164782276
You forgot
>Middenland and Mousillon playable

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>Trying to fight Skarsnik
>mfw

Between Lightning Strike and ambush stance he's actually making a fool out of me. Like, I'm fucking getting outsmarted by the AI.

>Left Karak Norn behind after I conquered it to go take his last settlement.
>Halfway through, he suddenly appears at my gates and it turns out he had been waiting in ambush stance for me to leave.
>Now he has the walled settlement.
>Go retake it with two armies.
>lol lightning strike

Jesus, am I being fucking stupid or was CA this dastardly and gave Skarsnik a completely different AI?

>>164782660
Yeah. I want to fight greenskins but the chaos invasion gets in my way. And by the time that's done, I'm too OP to actually have a decent fight with the green menace. My passion for slaying goblins is older than GS though, it just suits me the best. It was my prime time in Dragon's Dogma, but it had the same problem as Warhammer - becoming too OP for goblins.

Maybe if I mod the Chaos invasion away and turtle in Reikland, the greenskins might have a chance... Yeah. I'll do that.

>>164782276
If you're going to nerf the range, you'll have to buff the width. Cheesing is too easy right now.

>>164783002
>literally whos

>>164783115
Yes.

>>164783241
>literally whos
only some of the most important factions in the setting in their respective area, but sure

>>164783115
Skarsnik is pretty damn tough to deal with. He's cunning on the campaign map and deadly on the battlefield with his super gobbos.

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>>164783331
not really pham, one is a Bretonnian problem that isn't nearly as big as TreeHitler, the other is Ulriekland lead by a dude not even in the 8th ed empire book.

There is more of a case for the Averland Madman himself than Boris the Emperor's Eye

>>164783630
Considering they're the ones who've recieved custom leader models and not Averland I'd wager CA doesn't give a fuck about who's "more important" in your 8th ed army book

>>164781438
>>muh roman tactix

How are spearmen+bowmen+knights+smattering of elite infantry and flyers supposed to be Roman tactics?

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>>164783819
Not 1:1 roman legionnaire tactics but using the infantry formations they used and feeling like an elite army crushing my lesser enemies.

Something like a spiritual roman elf army or something... I guess it's just autism

DOK KEK

>>164783630
>Karl Franz counted Leitdorf amongst his most trusted allies
Marius confirmed for Old Friend.
Burn the Halflings.
Insult fair maidens.
Bretonnian War now!

>>164783759
He has a perfect spot already, a slightly different generic Empire General. Unless they release Ulric units along side I'm not impressed.

>>164783630
Marius would be leagues more interesting than Boris, but Boris is definitely the second most powerful and important elector.

>>164784089
>elite army crushing my lesser enemies
>Romans
>elite army
They beat their most dangerous enemies by throwing men at them until the enemy ran out people.

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>>164762938
>>164762812
It's simple: lock all garish colour to Slaanesh.

>>164783630
>An Empire factions with Beastmen-like dilemmas/events that can give serious faction wide buffs or debuffs.

Might be cool.

>>164784089
Triple line and all the other formations simply do not work in total war. There is no benefit of using one line and letting it die while the second rests.

>>164784270
>having a larger manpower pool means your soldiers are shit

>>164783630
I'd rather have Kurt Helborg than either of them.

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>>164771628
>>164770313
Star forts when?

>>164760794
He denied you the honor of retaking your home and settling a grudge.
That is grudge worthy right there friend.

>>164784759
New starting locations is the hot thing anon

>>164784270
>Take casualties that can be counted on one hand when the enemies fall in the thousands
You really proved yourself as a first class idiot

>>164784905
But neither of those chucklefucks is going to give us the Grandmaster generic lord.

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JUST GIVE ME THE REAL OLD FRIEND AND I WON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ALL YOUR OP ELVES AND FUCKING SHITTY LORES OF MAGIC

>>164784916
I feel like I shouldn't bother, but I'm going to give you a tip regardless.

We're not talking about romans vs barbarians.

>>164785332
He's probably an Anglo who thinks beating savages who can barely fight back is the epitome of military might.
Just let him be.

>>164780316
Looks Finnish to me. Can someone translate?

>>164785332
Pro tip: The Romans fought other civilized peoples than the Carthaginians

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>>164781978
>Just as planned.

>>164760960
oh my fucking god, i realized fucking warhammer doesn't even have weather conditions.

>>164781438
>shaving beards and then getting your ass handed to you and never recovering

BRILLIANT!!!!

>>164785783
>turns out he was right all along

>>164785654
Yep and Pyrrhus was beating them until he ran out of men.

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>>164782042
Anon, Kislev won't be playable anytime soon.

>>164785802
I played a raining battle just yesterday.

>>164785986
But I don't want to play as Pont...Kislev.

>>164759282

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s2MSVaXNqQ

>>164759282
roooooooooooolllllllllll

>>164784152
>Marius
>Boris
The best is always Elector Countess Emmanuelle von Liebwitz.

I have been play TW:WH since the relaese and damn what a comfy game .

I've tried to play a bit of Rome 2 multiplayer but the map is so BORING . Should I play Attila ? Which dlc should I buy?

>>164786343
Nuln is overrated.

>>164784715
They weren't shit but Roman tactics relied entirely on the weight of the roman war machine or just simple logistics. Their infantry just stood there and made it as hard as humanly possible at the time to kill them and disrupt their formation and that was it. Even if they were outnumbered the roman machine just sent another army or attacked another city until the opposing army had no option but to concede. Meanwhile the likes of Alexander couldn't rely on such supply lines and reinforcements and couldn't afford to lay sieges so he had to force battles by appearing vulnerable or forced marches across deserts towards cities.

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>>164785902
Of course!

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>>164786343
Screw her.
Eben is the real hero and a true bro.

>>164785802

>Warhammer doesn't even have basic features from the previous titles
>Warhammer is CA's fastest selling title
>CA sees this as a sign
>tfw the next historical title will be streamlined as hell

>>164786076
Hussars kurwa stronk

>>164786623
>>tfw the next historical title will be streamlined as hell
But that was the tendency for ages now.
Rome 2 had less features than S2 for example.

>>164759282
R O L L A N

>>164786569
>prefering bro over waifu

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>>164785783

>>164759282
RE R O L L A N because i don't have beastmen

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>>164786842
>implying

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H-Here we go.

>>164786928
Kek

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>Get a healing potion playing Chaos.
>Get the Chalice of Chaos 3 turns later.
>Only turn 20.
Rev up those Chosen cus I sure am ready to cause the end times.

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>warhammer doesn't have river battles
why though

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Look, I saved Europe

>>164787810
Now you need to save the entire world.

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>>164759282
Fak you guys, i rolled vampire cunts, i tried to work it out, even if i can't play with them for shit, only to be locked against elves and get buttfucked by chaos.They took Sylvania, it's all over.Can't learn how to play with them unless i overwhelm the shit out of my enemy.Fuck this fuck all.Reroll.

>>164787810
>Not taking the constant city
Why tho

>>164787083
You can do it!
POO POO PEE PEE
BURN DOWN THE FUCKING WOOD ELF TREE

>>164788015
You're supposed to focus on quickly breaking morale as Vampire Cunts. It's why you have so many cool monster units.

>>164788015
Are ya winnin, son?
>>164788127
Huns razed it to the ground ;`(. I sacked it so the Sassanids would take it but they ignored it

>>164787776
Please no, I don't want to start another FotS campaign ;_;

Ah fuck it, rollan >>164759410

>>164759121
hey where is the mordheim thread?

>>164786842
>not prefering bro over waifu
Bros before hoes, you dumb manlet

is there a guide to optimising your provinces and stuff in attila? it feels like every time i want to make a building that adds actual value (i.e. money, quality troops, agents) i need to build two more that add stuff i don't care about to offset the damage (i.e. food, public order etc). i feel like there must be a better way of doing it

>>164788181
>>164788231
I got rekt by elves with half their fucking armies made up from forest dragons led by TreeHitler, while Archie and his parrot blazed sylvania and were heading to Altdorf when i had no army or money left.At least i rolled dorfs.

>>164788181
And morale crush worked with empire and Bretonnia armies, elfs just ran circles around me and any victory was hard fought

>>164761949
here we go

>>164788163
We lost.

But don't worry, all my heroes survived, and I have 6 recruitment slots and enough poo money to drown every wood elf in the world in it, I'll camp it out in Athel Loren for a bit and go back for assault 2.

God bless hidden encampment.

Greenskins are SHIT

>>164789713
agreed

>>164789713
True, but at least they aren't dwarfs

>>164787776
Warhammer is built around making the AI more effective through design of the campaign/battle maps.

>best general with incredible traits and great influence has the fertile trait
>his wife has the tribal midwife trait
>this should give them a 30% bonus to having kids
>they haven't had a single child

FUCK

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>>164788306
have fun

>>164789713
>tfw no spear chukkas to pin stunties to the wall with

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>>164789289
Second round, GO

>>164785852
Bruh, High Elves probably have the best lives of any civilization in Warhammer.

Is Warhams any good without RO? I have been using it since launch and am curious about how it would pan out to not use it. Anyone know?

>>164790669
>RO

???????????????

>>164791017
Regional Occupation. Empire, Brettonia, and Vampires can't conquer Orcs and Dwarfs and Vice-Versa

>>164790475
Poo all over them

>>164790669
I like it, makes the factions even more different.
Also it's not that easy to destroy the big dwarf or greenskin blob in the badlands

>>164790654
Do they though?

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Am I doing this right?

>>164788608
Tell me your faction, but usually you have one blue building for the whole region, 3 farms in towns and then one yellow building in the main city.

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>>164786569
ABSOLUTELY

B A S E D
A
S
E
D

>>164774847
You mean the Timurids?

>>164790669
I've found the game is way too easy without it. There's really nothing to keep you from constantly growing and building up cash provinces so you just end up steam rolling.

Like it works fine but the game isn't balanced for it so you end up hemorrhaging cash.

>>164792152
>mortars instead of helstorm rocket battery
I disagree

>>164792472
That is my cheapo rebellion killing army.

My big shit is near the waste with Karl.

>>164759560

Why you failed on Maratha Confederacy? is a meme?

>>164791732
Yeah. If you can get over the angst of being a dying race and losing a war to the dwarfs of all people, then Ulthuan is super nice. The lowest farmer still leads a good life with lots of wealth and help from magic. Of course the threat of violence is always present, usually in the form of Dark Elves or daemons or monsters, but it's far less than anywhere else in the world.

I remember reading somewhere that every single High Elf gets a horse for a present when they're young (and of course it's a superior horse because that's how Tolkein and everyone afterward writes elves), and in the 8th ed. army book it states that High Elves only trade with foreigners in order to keep an eye on them, because Ulthuan has more than enough resources and riches to support the small population.

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>>164791145
Loot at that. It's a tree.

And it's covered in MINOTAUR SHIT BITCHES.

>>164782042

>That guy is literally wearing the 'secessionist' flag on his shield.

wow I wonder who could be behind this

>>164792660
who cares about India desu

>>164792668
But how much better would it be if they set aside their arrogance and actually spoke with the dorfs?


They know their beards are of great importance to their social status and that they are a very vindictive people.

Why not defuse the situation so that both can continue to prosper. Even more so with the threat of chaos which could come back at any time?

Melekith was best friends with Snorri Whitbeard and swore and oath to always be true allies to the elves if they also stayed true. He even invited him to see him on his deathbed.

The dwarves were heavily wronged and the elves paid for it. If only they could still be best buds shitting on chaos and aiding the babby humans.

>>164792819
BURN
IT
DOWN

POO POO PEE PEE STRONK!

>>164792819
What unit size?