/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

Doll is for making contact with.

>get summoned for BSB
>the host isn't at full health
>he loses some more health on the way down
>when we arrive to the fog wall he's almost dead
>"wow he must be a pro, he's really confident"
Then it dawned on me - he ran out of vials...
Being good at video games makes you feel lonely even in this refuge of a hobby.

>button mash to get out of a grab
>still get fucking hit because my character immediately does whatever action I was mashing and I can't dodge away

what's the fucking point

also is there even a yell for the queen's grab because I'm not seeing one, shejust gets me in the middle of me swinigng

>>164646365
End of second baby cry is when she holds anyone within 10ish feet still for an attack.

>>164646309
I had something similar once.

> summon a random in for Chalice Rom
> he's on really low HP
> doesn't heal
> "oh wow he must be running a Poormans gem setup for huge damage"
> he does less damage than me
> is being super catious and basically not fighting
> dies to meteors as soon as Phase 2 starts

What was his endgame? Was he out of echos and thought cooping Chalice Rom would give him enough to restock on vials? Was he THAT desperate for 6% nourishing gems? We may never know.

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>>164646232
Doll is for cuddling
>tfw you will never come home to dollfu after a long night of hunting, sit down in her lap and rest against her cool porcelain body

Man, BB is filled with so many top-tier waifu's, Miyazaki knew exactly what he was doing.

>>164646547
But he made Dark Souls, where the player's custom waifu is a zombie for much of the game. So he's a hack.

>>164646547
>BB is filled with so many top-tier waifu's

the doll and maria? not exactly brimming

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>>164646779
Ioesfka
Fake Ioeafka
Adella
Arrianna
Rom

>>164646779
>Arianna
>Annalise
>Adella
>Fake and real Iosefka
>Yurie
>Eileen
There's a ton of waifus in this game anon, for fucks sake, real Iosefka practically asks you out on a date at one point.

Orphan just glitched out while I was fighting him.

He transformed while standing on some rocks on the left side of the cove, and now he's just standing there doing nothing while I examine him with my monocular. The music from his first phase is still playing

> killing defiled Amy at low level
> perfect fight for phase 1-2, baiting out attacks that leave head exposed and then running R2
> third phase
> get a few successful jump cheeses in
> one charge R2 to the face away from death
> refuses to jump. Just stands there stomping her dumb leg
> a full minute of no jumping, just stomping and rotating to try get to me
> "oh well I guess I'll just mash at the legs until she dies it's obviously bugged out AI"
> get stomped and instalilled while mashing R1 against the leg
> have to do the whole fight again.


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

>>164647279
take pics and/or video without HUD on.

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>>164646309
>"wow he must be a pro, he's really confident"

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AHH, KOSM OR SOME SAY KOS

Could a chalice with layer 3 Pthumerian Elder and layer 4 Headless Beast be considered better than the usual chalices for farming?

levers are fast to reach too

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>>164647451
>>164647279

his umbilical cord on his belly disappears behind his back and the cord attaching his weapon to his hand disappears at the elbow

How is the multiplayer in this game? Is it still very active? How is the PvP? I hear invasions only happen in Mensis.

I've just completed my first playthrough and am considering getting the DLC and maybe PS+.

>>164648102
No, because:

1. You farm layer 3/4 bosses by savescumming, not by recreating the chalice. So having two good bosses for farming in a single dungeon is hardly useful.

2. The gems that these bosses drop are useful for different builds.

>>164648102
Unless you are running a 50 ARC, 50 STR build then you'd never be farming both those guys on the same character.

Still would be a good chalice if you are an altruistic Samaritan and enjoy hosting for other Anons to collect piles of gems.

>>164646645
Anyone have a good bloodgem setup for a max level "cainhurst" build? Chikage, Reiterpallasch, Evelyn?

>>164648428
31.5 bloodtinge gems in everything

>>164648428
Reiterpallash is primarily a skill weapon so you'd want physical gems on it, for the chikage you want Korea tier 32% bloodtinge radials.

>>164648428
Did you reply to the correct post? It seems like an odd tangent.

Best setup for a pure BLT build is a shitton of 31.5% Bloodtinge offshapes, or circles for the guns and Lost Chikage's circle slot.

Unless you also have high SKL and want to use Reiter as a melee weapon and untricked Chikage, in which case 27% physical gems are the best choice.

Is the Pizza Cutter good on a quality build? I would rather go quality than full strenght so i can use more weapons.

>>164648605
Yea I fucked up

>>164648609
Go 50/25.

Heavy Abyssal Blood Gems turn anything into S scaling in STR. With that build you can use practically anything that's not BLT or ARC well.

Just gotta get good at killing Heasless Bloodletting Beast. You'll kill tha fucker 100s of times farming perfect heavies for 20 different weapons you can use.

>>164648969
Or he can get two good heavies and switch weapons from time to time. Not like he's going to use everything at the same time. The biggest problem will be getting chunks to upgrade them all.

>>164648969
>>164649391
So the heavy abyssal blood gems makes a weapon scale mostly with strenght?

For example make blades of mercy scale with strenght instead of skill?

>>164649482
Yes, although BoM is better on a Skill build. Some weapons that seem like they should be better on a Skill build end up being stronger, or equally as strong, on a Strength build, though. E.G., the Saw Spear with heavy gems on a Strength build is better than one on a Skill build with tempering gems.

>>164649482
Correct. As >>164649558 said, BoM would do more damage on a Skl build but are still perfectly usable with Heavy Abssals. If memory serves me well, the difference is about 70 AR.

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>>164646232
Doll is for feeding echoes

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>>164649960

>>164649960
Please cleanse this man of his beastly idiocy.

>>164649482
They don't remove any scaling, they just add 0.65 STR scaling (that's enough to take something from no scaling to a B rating IIRC).

So now you can use the Blades of Mercy on a quality build. Or make STR weapons have even better scaling. I frequently one-shot people with Amy Arm R2 follow-ups in Mensis. They don't level VIT enough and fall for the bait everytime.

Don't listen to >>164649391 you want an entire collection of +10 gemmed weapons, or at least make that an end goal. If you only have enough gems for two, you'll likely just use the best two and never swap them out because going to the dream is a hassle. Having an inventory of weapons for any occasion is fun and makes PVP more interestibg since you can switch to entire different playstyle between fights.

Chunks isn't an issue since you'll be farming Watchers for 27%'s and Blunts. With all three eye runes you get 1-2 chunks per kill, and you'll get rocks and more chunks farming Bloodletting Beast, especially if you coop with a savescummer.

hold up lads
the church pick is both serrated and righteous? and while tricked every attack is a trust attack?
so you can put one waning 28.7% and two radial 32.6% trust gems in it? and it'll do motherfucker damage, right?

>>164650720
Yup.

Also you could replace the 28.7% with a 32.6% triangle.

>>164650931
>32.6% triangle

this exists? i'm not seeing it in the spreadsheet

>>164651002
Yes. It drops from watchers, just like the radials.

>>164650720
> Waning
> on a physical weapon. Ever

You want Radial, Radial, Triangle for the Watcher gems (and useful secondaries if you arnt farming watchers) Waning is only good for Fire/Bolt and poison.

>>164651002
Isz Watchers can drop Adept gems just like Pthuneru Watchers. I think it's rarer though. I got a 32.6% Thrust with ATK down curse a few days ago. It was heartbreaking.

Hell, even 32.6% BLT triangles exist.

>>164651189
i was just looking at the google doc and saw that the highest rated non-radial trust dmg gem was a waning one. i am of very little knowledge about what you can find in the chalice dungeons.
that's cool though, i'm gonna do a pick run now.

anyone up to fight maria?
bl75 NG+
bbg at fog

>>164651267
Just a heads-up, farming adept gems fucking sucks ass.

>>164651323
What ever happened to Isz Adept anon?

Did he finally get his gems? Or did he die trying? i miss him

>>164651323
Can confirm, farming adept gems vacuumed my ass and now I can't sit down.

>>164650304
Guess you're pushing him down the autism road.
23 weapons (not couting Bloodletter, Chikage and Kos Parasite) means he'll need 23 usable Heavy Abyssals, 25 if he wants perfect damage weapons, each with +15 as secondary (Saw Cleaver/Spear will do more damage than 1xHA, 2x27% if you put 2xHA +15, 1x27%).
He'll need 368 Blood Chunks to bring all of these to +9, that's 7360 insight or, assuming each boss drops 2 Chunks, 184 bosses.
1 Blood Rock for each weapon. 23 Rocks is worth 1380 insight or 22 NGs (with DLC, 11 NGs) and 60 insight. Assuming each boss drops a Rock, that'll be 23 Layer 3 Depth 5 dungeons.
That's what I'm doing with my character right now.

that was hell of a bully, thanks Hibiki

>>164651637
>Saw Cleaver/Spear will do more damage than 1xHA, 2x27% if you put 2xHA +15, 1x27%

This is true of most weapons.

>>164651923
Don't tell me, I don't want to know. I only need six Heavies to complete it.
Wich ones?

>>164651923
Not at 50/25. Beast Claw (with rune) is better by only a few AR, and as soon as you gain any Beasthood the 27% would likely overtake the second Abyysal. Axe is better with two Heavies at 50/14, but if you level SKL to 25 a lot of the higher multiplier attacks would actually be worse and the difference in other attacks would be approaching 0.

Weapons with higher base damage, and especially higher multipliers get much less benifit from flat damage. Also sometimes 24.8% +15 flat is better than a 27%, but they are such a pain to farm for such a minimal increase.

>>164652074
>Wich ones?

idk like, everything that isn't LHB, Kirk, or Whirligig probably? It depends on if you're going to use adept gems or not, and also what your stats are.

was The One Reborn meant to be THIS easy? like what the fuck, i just beat him first try just straight up spamming his body.

>>164652372
he's only difficult if you don't kill the bell ladies or don't pay any attention at all. he's killed me with the vomiting though because i didn't know what the hell was going on.

>>164652193
Weapons with Adepts never need more than one Heavy, even at 14 SKL my church pick was better with Heavy Abyysal, 32.6% Thrust, 32.6% Thrust. Same with Beast Cutter.

At 25 SKL you have 50% saturation, so a S scaling SKL weapon would have its base damage multiplied by x1.5 from SKL alone. 27% gems increase this as well as Base damage and STR scaling. Heavies only boost STR scaling.

To check, you have to do the calculations and not include the Heavy Abyysal flat damage secondary. If it's better now it means it easily won. If it's lower then you have to go through and work out exactly which attacks are helped by flat damage and hindered by it, then choose what moves you prioritise.

Just looking at AR using perfect heavies won't tell the full story. If it's only just better by a few points it means anything other than basic R1's will often be significantly worse.

>>164652423
what bell ladies?

>>164652490
the laser shooters up on the rafters
sometimes they don't do much either
honestly BB's main game should have been a lot harder. one reborn, mico and wet nurse are way too easy.

>>164652595
oh wow i thought the lasers were just coming from the dude on his ass wtf

>>164652074
>>164652190
>>164652193
>>164652461
there's also this thing

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_A9NKWIi8tBRpMFBoyiscC5CCL4qFDoNLKka0z2m1rs/edit#gid=0

>>164648215
Still active. Co-op happens just about anywhere, especially chalice and DLC. Invasions are common anywhere with a bell ringer like Mensis and Frontier. Fight Clubs happen once a week every week.

>>164652190
>>164652461
That's what I thought, was just making sure I didn't need to see HBLB more than necessary.
Thanks.

>>164649707
>>164649558
>>164649391
>>164648969

Are Heavy Abyssals DLC only? Sorry I just started playing 2 days ago and don't have DLC, but I would like to be able to use a lot of weapons at the same time without different characters and that sounds cool.

>>164653327
no, you find them in chalices which are mostly unaffected by DLC

>>164653327
They are found in chalice dungeons, read the OP for glyphs and how to find them.
You can savescum by uploading your data on USB/cloud and reloading it if you get a bad drop.

>twinks in upper pthumeru
Absolutely abhorrent.

I didn't see anything specifically in the OP about this, but I'm quite possibly retarded. What's the best way to tell whether or not you should be using 27.2 physical gems or adept/heavy gems? Is it all in the moveset?

How do I out damage Amelia? Any time I get her to 1/3 health she just heals right up and I've only twice managed to actually stagger her when she's doing it. The only non grindy option I can think of is to summon which I don't really want to do, but molotovs/fire paper don't do enough and the mist only lasts a short while

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Hey remember when you could actually invade research hall rafters without waiting for 30 minutes?
Yeah, me too.

>>164653903
Heavy gems improve STR scaling, which improves damage greatly if you have high STR. This increases total overall damage, if it's gives a higher number than 27%'s then it's better (flat damage secondary fuckery notwistanding) They get diminishing returns if you stack them though, 3 is never optimal and 2 is only sometimes but if you have 50 STR it's almost always optimal to have at least one.

Adept gems are Blunt or Thrust. They are only worth it if a weapon has overwhelmingly these type of damage types. Most weapons are a mix of Physival and blunt or thrust, so 32.6% adepts arnt worth it because you lose large portions of your moveset. But Beast Cutter is all blunt, so there's no disadvantage, Kirkhammer is all blunt in tricked mode so if you don't care about sword it's better to use Adepts. Church pick is the same, but thrust all its tricked moves count. Tonitrus, Boomhammer and Wheel are all blunt with added elemental damage so if you are using them without leveling Arcane blunt gems would be best. Amy Arm is 100% blunt untricked, standard physical in tricked mode.

Visceral damage also counts as Thrust, so a dedicated visceral weapon with three thrust gems is a great way to kill stuff quickly, especially on a SKL build.

>>164654213
> If the beasts loom large and threaten to crush your spirits, seek a holy chalice, as every hunter before you has

Listen to Gehrman and go get overpowered as fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms12ftbQv7U&feature=youtu.be

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>tfw father gascoigne says "forgive me" as he dies

i forgive you father gascoigne... i forgive you

>tfw how gay fextralife is
on the father gascoigne page for example it says "It is recommended that you hug a pet for stress relief if you die to him at least 10 times.". i get this is meant to be a joke but its fucking gay

Anybody want some help/to coop with an ayy lmao?

>rush through dungeons to get to the point where i can get lost chikage from the ihyll root glyph with it
>finally get it
>realise my best bloodtinge gems right now are droplets
>i couldve waited

THIS TOWN IS FINISHED

>>164655562
your finished, fuckboy

>>164655592
>your

>>164655121
He's talking to his family, not your dumb ass.

>>164654328
I'm using Saif, which likely has a mixture. But I'm primarily SKL, so (and I'll prolly check this with a calculator) I'll likely want some tempering 27.2s and maybe one adept or a skill scaling gem - I can't remember their name atm.

>>164655738
no hes talking to me you cunt. i killed him, i deserve the forgive me.

this has probably been asked a shit tonne here before but seeing as ive been away until recently, fuck it. how come gascoigne isnt in the hunters nightmare?

>>164656105
he's part of the healing church, maybe that's got something to do with it

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>>164649960

>>164655826
>one adept
Nope, saif is mostly physical so three 27s

>skill scaling gem
We don't know how to get Sharp Abyssals. Maybe it's near Guidance 3.

unzips

>>164656339
Alright. Thanks anon!

YOU LOUSY RAT

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>you will never hoont Eileen's coont

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>>164655940

>>164656291
Ludwig was also a church hunter

>tfw only Laurence, Orphan, Gehrman and MP left to kill
I don't want this game to end.

>>164656641
Isn't Ludwig from way back before they separated from Gehrman's hunters? Still new to the lore so I might be wrong.

>>164656291
but vicar amelia is in the hunters nightmare though?

>>164656840
Not this shit again

>>164656840
If she is we don't see her.

>>164656840
where did you get that from?

>>164656890
shes chanting in the hall before the research hall :^)

>>164657267
Prove it :^)

>>164657504
ask vaati :^)

dead /bbg/

>>164658697
This general is finished!

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>>164658697

>>164653471
>>164653531
Thank you guys.

is it worth plopping a few points in arcane so you can use empty phantasm shell?

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>oceiros the consumed king has the same growths on him as ebrietas and willem
>he was obsessed with using blood to ascend
>"Oceiros went mad trying to harness his royal blood for a greater purpose"
>he clutches a child that has no form, that cries throughout the fight

>irithyll a moon is visible
>all the knights that stay there too long fall into beasthood
Maybe I've been playing too much bloodborne but seriously what the fuck

>>164660382
FROM is pretty famous for the ridiculous amount of references to previous titles.

You think all that shit is trippy now? Play through the king's field series.

>>164660382
What's wrong, it's artists adapting what works into something new.

>>164660541
I mean I know they have their usual tropes and shit they like to keep going, but those are some oddly specific things to keep.

>>164660162
no

>>164660640
I mean the reason I said play through king's filed is because of that. People who haven't played through most their titles pick up from others that there are a lot of references like patches and moonlight blade, etc... But its more than that, there are a lot of themes that straight up just copy over.

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>>164660789
well thats silly

>>164660891
Not realy, it all sets in neatly, and you have to understand Souls is what brought FROM to light, before that they were a fairly niche company, when they made games they self-referenced a lot to homage their playerbase, give everyone a lit of "Oh shit I know that!" moments. Its never forced since they're kind of things you wouldn't even think to connect if you didn't play the titles in question.

>>164661015
Normally I would agree, but ds3 had way too much of it for me to feel like its own distinct game. And I haven't even played kings field. EIther way I'm getting way off topic.

>>164661091
>Normally I would agree, but ds3 had way too much of it for me
>for me
key phrase.

>>164661245
Hence why I said you little fuck

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>>164657667
>I can't think for myself so go ask the person I get all my ideas from

>>164661807
what is a joke

>tfw almost as many hours on my edgeblade build as my skill build
>nothinpersonal

Just trying this masochist game, if i died once and died again does that mean the blood echoes from my first death are gone just like demon souls?

>>164662989
yes if you die before you pick them up from the first death then your echoes are kill

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>>164663087

How difficult would it be for a level 50 new player to pop into TOH real fast just for the bowblade?

I'm watching this streamer on Twitch trying to get Platnium, he was on Defiled Amy and didn't know how to Amydala 101.

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>>164662989
Get used to it now because the numbers only get bigger.

And like DeS, this time there's no Ring of Sacrifice.

>>164663307
You could just kill Simon.

>>164663451
Is he difficult? Can I get to him quickly? I just want the bowblade for my main game progression. Cane is starting to get boring.

>>164663503
Just play the game.

>>164663503
>Is he difficult?
I didn't find him hard.
And yes, you don't have to fight any bosses.

>>164663646
this

>killing based simon if you haven't even played the dlc

Who wants to smack Queen Yharnam around with me? Ringing at the fog, pass is bbg

>get kill by invader
>he crushes a vermin
>untricks Chikage
>slow walks away and brushes off dust
What the fuck did I ever do to him to deserve this?

Is BL50 okay for Lower Pthumeru?

>>164664189
Ringing

>>164664363
Nuthin' personal kid.

>>164664410
rekt

>trying to get a good blood % gem
>only getting blood scaling
im not autistic enough to do this

just got a
>blood atk up +30.4, increases stamina cost 2.9%
did i do good?

>>164665364
30.4% *

>>164665519
It's decent but the highest is 31.5%. What shape is it?

>>164665726
circle to go on my lost chikage

>>164665810
Oh, those are common as fuck. The real madness is any shape that's not a Circle. Farming for OoS, you'll get tons of 31.5% Circles

>>164665924
OoS?

>>164665989
Out of Shape, or Offshapes. Every enemy has a very small chance of dropping a different shape that's not common for it. Shotgun Watchers drop Circles, but you can get Radials, Triangles, and Wanings if you farm enough.

>>164666140
so the shotgun watcher i was jsut farming in a bonus room in a root chalice for the circle ones also has a chance to drop a different shape bloodtinge gem one?

>>164666356
Yes, any enemy that drops gems as well. It's very rare, you'll get 1-3 OoS gems every 100 kills usually. Eye Runes increase gem droprate but I don't think it affects OoS gems. Even then, not every OoS will be perfect. Some will be Scaling gems, some will be less than 31.5%, some will have shit curses.

>>164666556
should i just stay with my 27.2% phys ones then if i dont want to go full autism?

>>164666742
Yeah those are good enough. Full 27.2% will have like 70-80 less AR than a full 31.5% Korean setup.

>>164666971
currently got 2x 27.2% phys attacks with 3.3% increase to stamina cost and then this 30.4% blood atk with stamina cost increase 2.9%. is that pretty much as good as it can be without being full autism in terms of curses?

if i want to help someone who's in an frc dungeon but i havnt completed a full frc, can i still join them via srrc?

>>164667282
Yeah it's alright. With 50 Blt and 3 27.2% you'll have 732 AR, with a 31.5% Circle 757, and with full 31.5% 809. I'd equip some Eye Runes and farm until you've gotten a 31.5% Circle, should be quick and easy.

>>164667562
You don't need to complete an FRC. You only need to complete the ritual (i.e. open one).

>>164667562
You just have to have the same root dungeon and created one FRC dungeon, you don't have to complete it. SRRC won't allow you to join until you've done so.

What's better, strength wheel or arcane wheel? I'm leaning towards 25/50 for REV

>>164667597
currently im on 750 with the gems i mentioned (50 blt, base skill and str)

>>164667562
You just need to have created a dungeon of the same depth or lower with the same or more FRC modifiers. You don't have to actually finish it, just make it.

>>164667783
Both are good, just test the movesets and see which one you prefer.
If you don't like the idea of the HP-depleting buff don't bother with the arcane wheel, that's its biggest strength.

>>164667783
rev wheel or bust

>>164667903
>>164667938
so is 25/50 good for rev or do I want base strength if im only going to use it rev'd?

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THIS STENCH

>>164667720
>>164667829
alright, so it doesnt matter if its a different type of dungeon either? like if theyre in an isz one buy ive only made a pth frc?

>>164668016
That extra str is very useful with nourishing gems, go for it.

>>164667825
That's good, 30.4% just looks kind of funny compared to 31.5%

>>164668089
Say your friend needs help with a Depth 5 PTH FC chalice,

you could help if you
>had the PTH root chalice
and
>had only made a Depth 5 ISZ FRC

Making a Depth 5 ISZ FRC is recommended because it requires less materials than the other types.

>>164668089
>replying to tripfags
Doesn't matter as long as you've got Isz Root.

>>164668016
25/50 yeah cos then youll be able to fuck enemies with tools aswell

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>>164668039
SMELLS LIKE YOU STRANGER

>trying to be a shitter invading people outside ludwig
>they almost always have that old hunter summon with them
pussys

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>>164668345
Not only that, I answered him first and he didn't reply to me.

>>164668665
The NPC summon? I thought that they're so useless at Ludwig. They always die after the first beam Ludwig does because they just facetank it.

>>164668894
Kek

>>164669140
oh theyre easily killable, it just makes things take abit longer

>>164668894
i replied to both of you

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>>164667562
>>164667673
There were three answers.

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>>164668894
>>164669467
my bad bruh

Is the Kosmas guy here? I appreciate your effort and it was cute even if you can't sing for shit.

>Open door in chalice dungeons
>Swarm of spiders
>Can't avoid getting hit

Okay

>>164669553
It's been happening a lot lately. Shit's giving a complex like that episode of South Park where everyone ignored Cartman so he thought he'd died.

wheres a good place to be a shitter?
been invading hunters nightmare but theres not much there today, and mergos is full of people who actually want to pvp

>>164669697
Burgertown is the best Twinking spot

I'm unsure what kind of character to make now. Someone help.

>>164669919
What have you done?

>>164669816
wouldnt that be too low an area for bl98?

>>164669942
saw cleaver/whirligig, edgelord blade, kind of did an arc broccoli build, tried to do a BoM build but cant beat eileen at BL10 to go buy it

>>164669962
Probably, but there isn't really any active area to be a shitter at 98. Frontier maybe but there's duels in there too.

>>164669919
arcane build with fire beast cutter

>>164670094
whats the best level to be a shitter at?
planning on making a new build anyway

>>164670056
Str/Arc with HMS and Wheel + Tools/Parasite. Or a BL43 Twink of your choice, Flat Wheel Twink is OP

>>164670232
BL43 is Twink meta, highest to invade the lowest possible (30), nice spot for mid-level areas, can invade upwards to 79, 30 Vit and one softcap is usually possible.

Anyone wanna help me with low level hotdog? I'm on a new character, pass is bbg

>>164670393
Ringing

>>164670256
alright sure, how early can I rush the wheel? gascoigne > amelia > martyr yeah? cleric as well if I need to summon for amelia, doesn't sound so bad as long as I summon for martyr

>>164670232
Level 98 and invade in Mensis or around level 50 to 60-ish and invade in the Frontier

>>164670623
If you're going for Flat Wheel, you could ignore the original and finish up the dungeons to pick up an Uncanny one. Flats commonly come in Radials and Triangles anyways, and the original has a Waning instead of Triangle.

>>164670793
it would take me awhile to smash through those though wouldnt it? plus im one of those where if I play most of the game without the weapon I want whats the point ya know?

>>164670524
Thanks m8, I nearly fucked it up towards the end there

>>164671031
No prob ;)

>>164671025
I suppose, I usually use a Saw with BB pellets + Papers to go through the game/dungeons until I've gotten my weapon for gem farming. Nothing will hit as hard as Flat Wheel as a Twink though unless you use Poorman's gems.

>>164671364
saif is better :^)

Skill or Str build? Whats more fun

>>164671567
arcane

>>164671567
50/25 Str/Skl will let you use most Skill weapons effectively. 25/50 is better for most Skill weapons though Strength has a bigger arsenal..

>>164671642
Or str/arcane for wheel/boom hammer/hmls and all high impact weapons and still usable tools to play.

I do enjoy a toy build with skill/endurance for dancing around with the BoM and BB.

>had a dream that a friend and I were chasing down and hunting Laurence in my college campus
>I play BB, even in my sleep
Does the nightmare never end

>>164672129
I dream of BB a lot too. Unsure what to make of it.

>>164672129
>>164672192
Magnificent! A hunter is a hunter, even in a dream!

>>164672129
>>164672192
are you sure that was the dream?
maybe it was the waking world

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After some time I got back to hoonting, however to my displeasure, I can no longer be summoned as an adversary through wrong password.
Has this been patched? Is there no sure way of being summoned as, say, vileblood to exectutioners world?

>>164672665
Don't you pull a "Polaris" on me, anon

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>>164672552
>Magnificent

I'm trying to do Ludwig at bl47
Is it bad if I keep dying? The second phase is just such a bitch
Can somebody tell me too git gud?

>>164670623
Need to kill witch to get to Cainhurst. Js.

>>164672962
For the second phase I find it easier to pick a fast weapon, stay glued at him, dodge the start of his 3 hit combo and get hits at every opportunity and just move away when he does the AoE and quickly get back. So I use different weapons in each of his phases.

>>164672901
Not sure which Polaris you're on about anon, but think really hard about your dreams.

Why do you wake up barely remembering anything? Maybe there's a little thing etched into your mind that is holding you back.

>>164672962
you can get your stinky git guds in /dsg/

don't mash dodge in 2nd phase, just hug his hips and roll through those big swings.

>>164673217
>>164673238
Thanks mates, I can flawless the first phase but as soon as the moonlight comes in I turn to jelly

>>164672786
Vilebloods still get summoned as Adversaries into an Executioner's world. What do you mean with a wrong password?

>>164673394
turn the volume up and listen to his grunts, i think that helps a lot. and if you can flawless first phase you're well on your way.

>>164672962
But the second phase is easier.

>>164673234
Lovecraft's short story "Polaris" ends with a similar premise where the protagonist is in the watch tower of an ancient city preparing for war. But he falls asleep in his drowsiness, unable to warn his city of the enemy, and wakes up back at his window in the real world where he first fell asleep, and begs to "wake up" and go back to the city.

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>>164672940

>>164673413
There was a method, where you put a password that wouldn't match with anyones else's, and that resulted in being paired with a beckoner from a hostile covenant.

>>164673885
Now that's something I'd read. Thanks anon

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>>164672552
>>164672940
Was staring blankly at the screen for a bit knowing something was off
Mfw explosion of laughter

>go to Cathedral Ward to see if everything is alright
>Arianna is dead
>Adella is covered in blood
>acts as if nothing happened
>take her blood because I need my fix
>walk away
>"Oh, brave hunter. I pray for your safety."
>guess she'll be weird about it again
>"Come back soon... Tee hee"
>ok the bitch dies before Rom
How can anyone like that murderous psycho?

so what's up with the spiders with human faces

>>164674739
Don't take a whore's blood.

>>164673885

>you will never dream yourself back home

>>164674375
Oh wow that's cool, it's probably patched. Would've been neat if it was still possible

>>164674739
Sounds like you committed heresy is why that happened Anon.

>>164674170
I've been looking for this edit. Many thanks friend.

>>164673885
>tfw you'll never be responsible for an invasion of eskimos

>>164674375
Is that how it worked? I thought it was people who still had the same password.
Which was funny for me because my friends always used passes like "luvcock" or something

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>>164673538
HAHAHA
AS SOON AS THE CLIMAX HIT IN THE CHOIR I KNEW I WAS GONNA GET HIM

>>164675294
It also works like that, yes. Kinda neat, allows for planned pvp fights.

>>164675430
good job anon

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>tfw just finished the little girl quest
Fuck me.

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>>164675549
Thanks friend :-)

>>164675762
Just give her the brooch back and let her be sad, it's for the best

>>164675925
>LHB shitters

>>164675958
I think he finished it which means she died by piggy in the sewers

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>tfw there are actually people who dont go out of there way to smash all the urns etc. in the area
why even play bloodborne if youre not gonna do that

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Imagine being Gehrman in that dream and having to be all like "damn, Good Hunter, you fuckin' good, all powerful with your ancient echos and horrific blood-drunk monster face. I would totally show you mercy, and let you use the Doll too if you like," when all he really wants to do is kill another 16-foot tall beast in the waking world. Like seriously imagine having to be Gherman and not only sit in that chair while the Hunter flaunts his disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing his bloodshot eyes and leathery skin, and just sit there, night after night, hour after hour, while he perfected that ritual. Not only having to tolerate his monstrous fucking visage but his haughty attitude as the Doll tells him she LOVES HIM and DAMN, HUNTER'S PRESENCE SOOTHES LIKE *THAT*?? because she's not the one who has to sit there and watch his abysmal fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been killing nothing but a healthy diet of beasts and extraterrestrials and later alleged scourge victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Yharnam. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on his dimpled stomache as he sucks it in to hide it shamelessly from the Doll, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get nothing to sit there and revel in his "statuesque (for that is what he calls himself)" emboldening, the emboldening he worked so hard for with hours of farming Lecture Building in the previous months. And then the Moon Presence calls for another night, and you know you could kill every single person in this dream before the next Hunter could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Gehrman. You're not going to lose your sweet release over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.

>>164676119
I know, in the future its best to just give her the brooch back

>>164676170
BUT WHAT IF I WANT MY MESSENGERS TO SHINE REMARKABLY

>create a new character
>farm the best gems
>get bored
>start a new one

It never ends.

>>164676275
They're gonna have to settle for reveling as babes

>>164675925
>that damage
How in the hell they managed to get to the Frontier without giving up? I'll give my respect for these shitters.

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I really need someone to help me in Ailing Loran Chalice, Layer 3; the Abhorrent Beast is an absolute madman, pass: beast, thanks m8s !

>>164676443
Elemental weapons that melt the main game can do shit damage to players.

>In NF
>OHKO-ing everything with Fire Saw Spear +6
>Get invaded
>Nerd bows
>Run up and R1 him once just to see what I'm dealing with
>64 damage

How the fuck do I get summons with whirligig saw for Gascoigne.

Then another fucker with the Rakuyo for BSB. What's happening?

>>164677239
Twinks, NG+, BSB is optional.

>>164677239
Twinks all over the shop... You'll be one of them, sooner or later...

memes all over the shop.. youll post one of them, sooner or later...

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>>164677586

>>164657267
It's a different voice actor saying the prayer. I'm also pretty sure that reciting Healing Church prayers is not exclusive to one person in all of history.

Can I get 27%phys gems with stamina curse?

How can I think, there are no tuts online

>>164677797
yeah

>>164677797
i have 2x 27.2% phys with 3.3% stam increase curse (3. something anyway)

Is it generally considered better to fight Iosefka or get the Umbilical Cord? I'm playing through for the first time and I'm a little sad that I missed out on her fight (and more importantly the great dialogue that goes with it).

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>>164677586
Majestic! A poster is a poster, even in a board.

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>>164677586

tfw djura was right

>>164677936
She drops a Rune pre-Rom, extra cord after. You don't need hers if you got the whore's.

Can someone please help me at Ailing Loran Chalice Layer 3 please ? Having a hard time agaainst Abhorrent Beast, pass: beast, pleaaase-desu !

>tfw in the jap version vileblood is only a term used by executioners/church for them
delusional executioners trying to convice everyone theyre actually called "vilebloods"

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Could anybody posts some webms or screenshots of roaming hotdogs and giants, thanks

>>164678126
That's a shame, looking into it the rune is the best version you can find without chalice dungeons and I don't really want to bother grinding any of the root chalices; just going through the fixed ones is enough for me.

>>164678186
Ringing

is 18 too low to ring for amelia? I haven't gotten anyone

executioners r gay

>>164678437
You don't have to grind any roots, just create one FRC dungeon and pick a glyph online. Unless you don't got PS+

>>164678523
Thanks Ceniza, if I can help tell me !

>>164678752
Most people don't ring for Amelia, make a pass and ask here for help if you want someone.

>>164678913
I do not have PS+
It's fine though, I'm not interested in PvP so I don't need optimal gear for anything other than progressively harder NG+ shit.

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>>164669575
I'm here all day everyday :) :(

Glad you liked it Anon. My singing normally isn't that bad (still horrible though) it was just made worse by a chest infection. You can actually here some bits where I'm gasping for air. But it was fun nonetheless.

>>164679045
No prob ;)

Anyone wanna fight downscaled ludwig before I need to go back to being an adult?

>>164679583
sure, pass?

>>164679838
bbg, ringing at the first lamp in the DLC

>>164678881
GODDAMN IT

>>164679867
first lamp? ok ringing

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>walk down the alley near cathedral ward were the black church set is
>hear thudding
is that coming from one of those coffins that are chained up?
>tfw if people are locked inside them alive

why is Yahar'gul the worst area in the game?

>>164680383
Bell maidens obviously
The level design is top notch, but the enemies are cancer

>>164680383
dont be gay. its one of the best

>>164680383
fuck no it's beautiful and challenging

>>164680452
le 3 man gank squad LUL

>>164680383
Only because of the laser Amy. Why'd you have to be such a bitch Amy

>>164680383
I think it was made to feel like hell.

>>164680383
Its fucking great, whats so bad about it?
I'd say nightmare frontier is the worst area in the game

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Behold, /bbg/, my magnum opus!

The evelyn is the best gun with 50 blt, right?

>>164680746
this. ive never felt the need to explore frontier, infact i dont think i ever have apart from rushed to get to the messenger tool thing

>>164680383
It's great, though. The respawning enemies are weak as fuck, and the bell maidens are only a problem on your first playthrough. Afterwards, you know where they are and it's easy to sprint to their locations and kill them.

>>164679956
That went really well! Thank you.

>>164680909
it's pretty fun to explore actually as long as you have some antidotes on you

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>>164680840

>>164680842
Blunderbuss hits harder with a BSB Circle when most of the pellets hit. Repeating Pistol does more per shot but uses 2 bullets. Evelyn is better per bullet and mid/long-range.

>>164680840
>>164681019
Good shit, anon

>>164680607
well it fucking took away my will to go back and play for now and I was on a roll

the laser is not really the problem, just past the second lantern the bell maiden is hidden and still keep the fags up+ the triple trouble gank squad

take away the bell maidens and it's fine, but they fuck up all the other elements of the area


imagine forbidden forest but the big snakes split into balls of snakes, and these split into small snakes on death

and until you go through and kill the ayy lmaos down, they all respawn

>>164680840
i dont really care about that, but i can see why it would help alot of other people or be useful. good work anon

just cracked open a fresh new FRC Ihyll
anyone want to go spelunking? password is bbgfrc
glyph is bs8j974c

>>164680383
> same enemies as the first areas of the game
> but now with 8x health and infinite respawning!
> Bell Maidans don't even work like the chalice ones and despawn all thier summons once killed.
> that fucking laser Amy who kills me at least twice every playthrough
> confusing lore: were all the people melted into the walls already when we went to Yharhagul pre-rom? The fact we couldn't see that area just makes it needlessly confusing
> shitty boss

Yeah it's my least favourite area. I love Hyperoan Gaol though.

I wish that after Rom you woke back up in Ioesfka's clinic and had to go through Centeral Yharnam and Cathederal Ward again to get to Yharhagul, but with entirely new enemy placements. Turn Yharnamites into more beasts versions, crows and dogs get eachothers heads and pigs get lots of eyes etc...

>>164681249
Yeah, sounds good

>>164681249
SRRCing in

>>164681249
Will join ya pronto

>>164681345
>I wish that after Rom you woke back up in Ioesfka's clinic and had to go through Centeral Yharnam and Cathederal Ward again to get to Yharhagul, but with entirely new enemy placements. Turn Yharnamites into more beasts versions, crows and dogs get eachothers heads and pigs get lots of eyes etc...
This so much. I'd love if that happened.

>>164681346
>>164681249
Ringing

>>164681346
>>164681352
>>164681457
>>164681626
we're full now, sorry if you didnt get in

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>>164681626

>>164680383
Thats not Nightmare Frontier

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>>164681029
Thank you

>>164680840
>that drop after 29
inb4 new 29-vit meta

>>164681249
>bs8j974c
Anything neat so far? I was about to open up a new FRC myself but maybe I'll do this one.

>>164681115
Triple gang squad is easy

>>164682209
That's 30. Nothing new here really, just to help visualize it. I wish the graph would turn out better/

>>164682427
>That's 30.
Ah, fuck my addled eyes.

>>164682362
on layer 1 nothing special in terms of enemies, but there was a hallway full of traps that was sort of fun to get through, I also got a sage's hair from one of the mobs in the bonus room but thats it i think

Yo, anyone up for ludwig? Pass is bbg

>>164682362
Just the usual in Layer 1. The fun starts at Layer 2-3.

What's the best gun at the minimal required bloodtinge?

>>164682868
Hunter Blunderbuss or Hunter Pistol
There isn't really any alternatives at base BLT.

>>164682868
The starting pistol for parries and the repeating pistol for damage.

>>164682751
lvl70 standing by

>>164681345
>confusing lore: were all the people melted into the walls already when we went to Yharhagul pre-rom? The fact we couldn't see that area just makes it needlessly confusing

It's not confusing at all. All those bagmen were going around Yharnam kidnapping people and bringing them into Yahar'gul, like what happens to you, just don't get to see every single instance of it. When you're off going through the woods and Byrgenwerth and finally killing Rom, people are gathered up and melted. It's also part of the shock of seeing a small, dark, silent section of Yahar'gul with some creepers wandering around, then killing Rom to find a sudden hellscape of corpse monsters and empty husks lining the walls.

>>164682946
I don't mean the base, but the minimum required BLT respectively.

>>164683153
Why are going to pump your Blt to 9 or 18 to use a weapon for sub-optimal damage...?

You know what? Nevermind, I don't care.

Does the snake whistle count as a weapon? Because I don't have it and I still got the achievment for having all tools.

>>164683415
Just using the pistol on every playthrough is kinda boring.
And aside from damage, different guns have different speed, range, ammo consumption etc. It's not like I'm gonna pump BLT up to 50.

>>164682751

I'm sorry Anon I didn't think he could one-shot me.

>>164683109
Jesus Christ hes hitting hard

>>164683581
>different guns have different speed, range, ammo consumption etc
That's not really true. When you lock on, all non-canon guns have functionally the same range and all but the Repeater cost one Bullet.

IIRC, Piercing Rifle doesn't scale and so has high base damage, only has a 9-Blt req., and therefor has the highest damage at that level.

An Evelyn with 18 Blt might do more, but you can check this easily yourself at mugenmonkey.

Jesus, sorry. PS4 just shut down suddenly

>>164683885
i died to boss so it's all good
ringing at lamp again

>>164683832
Not him but Piercing Rifle does scale, at 50 Blt it's a bit worse than Evelyn. Evelyn at 18 Blt is out-damaged by Hunter Pistol.

>>164683795

I am not that anon, but yeah, he's shitting on us, are you on NG+?

Wait what? Did you just change runes?

>>164683832
>>164684024
Guess I'll try that rifle then.

>>164682868
if you have enough str, cannon always deal considerable damage with BMA

Sorry destrell, you had to die

>>164683961
Alrighty, SRRC'ing in

>>164683431
you don't need it for the achievement

YOU
PLAGUE
RIDDEN
RAT

>>164684060
No, I always had my hunter rune
And this is ng+10

>>164683153
Then Ludwigs Rifle for shotgun, Repeating Pistol for pistol. If you don't want double bullet consumption for a pistol at minimum requirements but still have decent damage the Hunter Pistol is really the only option unless you want to use the Piercing Rifle for crowd control instead of parrying.

>>164684024
Yeah I got curious and just checked on MM myself. I really thought PR had no scaling bug big base damage. Don't where I got that.

>>164684074
I forgot to mention, the only difference I'm aware of with non-canon firearms in shot speed is actually the recovery frames after the shot; they all fire at the same rate after pressing the button.

So really all you're probably doing by not using the HP at sub-50 Blt is artificially making it harder to get Viscerals after interrupts.

>>164684240

OH FUCK, no wonder he's fucking me up. Well, sorry but I don't think I can help you.

jesus christ, i usually just side dash and the pig would miss me why does it suddenly have such good tracking??

>>164684362
I'm pretty sure Blunderbuss types fire slightly slower.

>>164684240
Wait, you're doing an NG+10 Ludwig?

I want in. What BL are you?

>>164683581
Repeating pistol, 8 BLT

Just use a BMA before firing.

https://youtu.be/tXwxAgA7tak?t=50s

>>164684378
You should be as upscaled as I am, since were using passwords

>>164684485
Nope, same speed. The only thing that fires slower is Rifle Spear.

>>164684613
You don't get upscaled, only downscaled.

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>>164684491
458

Not even overleveled

Also just join using the pass bbg before the boss entrance

>>164684792
Omw

SRRC is taking quite a while