/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

fuck trig

>>164610631
2D math is easy my man, trig is simple. The real hard math is 3D, matrices and quaternions. Shit doesn't make sense.

third for enginedevs being fagets

>>164610725
You probably don't need to understand how they work to use them to accomplish what you want.

comfy jam ideas anyone?

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>>164601207
>tfw engine dev

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>finishing touches
more like fixing game-breaking bugs and half-assing unfinished art

>>164610725
but you need trig for quaternions
i wouldn't know though because i use unity which does everything for me

>>164611043
whoops i meant
>>164601007
:)

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>>164611136
and gamemaker doesn't even have vectors

>most people "answering" the question by showing off their 1337 triangle math skills while assuming you know the wall you're going to use already

>>164608047
sord 2.0
make this a meme too

>>164611021
That's a good way to spend 3 hours on a basic function trying to figure something out. It's one thing to not need to memorize the method of finding something like sine, but knowing what various mathematical formulas do to quickly find angles or whatever you want is important, especially if you want to make anything that breaks the normal rules.

>>164611378
What? I meant matrices and quaternions. You don't need to understand complex numbers and how they're generalized to quaternions (and intuit based on this) to know that quaternions are rotations and can be combined with multiplication.

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>>164611043
and here's a degenerate case when points are on either side, so do a check to make sure they are on same side. should be able to google that

>>164610674
If someone googles my name they won't see news articles about me being a shitbag. That's more than anyone can say for you.

>>164611595
I misread a bit. Yeah, you don't need to know all the details if you know how to actually use them. I would still consider it good practice to make sure you're familiar with what they all do and how they work so you can make exactly what you want without tons of guesswork and trying things until it's right.

>>164611293
you have to check every wall in the vicinity as there may be multiple solutions, there's no other way. but you don't have to cast 1000 rays.

>>164611043
>>164611652
Thank you, I got much more help from you and everyone else than I originally anticipated.

>>164611787
Indeed. I am much better off than what I started off with.

>>164611858
kek

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These are so refreshing after the blank color. Not sure if I should keep them on at all times or if not, when.

>>164612017
it's distracting, i'd say keep the blank.

>>164612017
>mixels
meme aside, it looks bad and doesnt fit the game at all

>>164612017
It's too distracting, tone the brighter colour way down

>>164612017
this destroys your aesthetic

>>164612017
the effect is ok, but colors need to be toned down/more contrast so the main focus is the player and puzzle. currently it's easier to pay attention to the background

>>164612086
>>164612157
>>164612164
>>164612296
>>164612304
Okay, it's not staying permanently. I'll keep it for special events and/or AFK times.

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>finishing touches
more like rushing to actually have a game

>>164612017
the iso checkers pattern was good but this is way too much. lower contrast too

>>164612017
I like this one, and the one you posted in the last thread quite a bit. I don't know what the other posters mean by distracting.
If that's actually a problem, you you could always fill the room spaces instead of letting the background be visible through them.

>>164610725
I hate quaternions man. I just use transformation matrices because my peanut brain can understand them. Gimbal lock is a bitch though.

Alright, couple questions about Unreal:

I've got a class for any sort of container in the game, chests or boxes or whatever. Holds instances of my Item base class. I've got it so I can set the mesh in the editor after I place it, but is there a way that I can fill it in the editor too? Like manually set what's gonna be in the array?

Also, can you not cast to a child class of Object in Blueprints? Im using them for HUD shit, and for some reason I can't get it to cast to the object. Do I have to convert Item from a child of Object to a child of Actor Component?

>>164612017
good for a drug trip sequence

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Second part of the first cave looks shit now, but a lot of it still needs to be done. Here's how it is like for now.

Does anyone have any modeling tips about these kinds of stages? I'm trying to make it in a way so it looks good even if the textures maps are just effortless color squares. Also lots of copy pasting.

>>164612017
really distracting, if you make it context sensitive it may work though

>>164613190
is this 2.5d or actually a 3s stage?

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How can I fix this bullshit?

>>164613795
make the slope hitbox inset

POST DEVVING MUSIC
https://youtu.be/AnMR6SOBa9k

>>164613795
Special slope standing/ascending/descending sprites or a slope gradient so subtle that you won't notice the hoverfoot.

>>164613740
3d, kinda what super mario 3d land is like but with more retro/primitive controls

>>164612709
you dont need to understand them in full. it's just an arbitrary axis and a rotation around it. the end.
multiply it and you rotate it by given quaternion. and you can linear interpolate between two without gimbal lock thanks to the 4th dimension.

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>>164613795
>>164613892
Better to change the player collider.

>>164613795
Perhaps rotate your sprite to match the slope of the decline?

>>164613923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_RvSzStK9k

>>164613190
nice actual cave story clone

>>164614001
And then make sprites for standing on slopes if you want.

>>164614054
That would look retarded.

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>>164614054

>>164612810
>is there a way that I can fill it in the editor too? Like manually set what's gonna be in the array?
Make the array editable (click the little box next to it in your list of variables)

You'll have to explain the second part again

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How do I find an artist for my game?

>>164613923
https://clyp.it/1megp1r2

>>164614276
>>164614298
It depends on the slope. Obviously it would look silly if the slope were like >60 degrees

>>164614417
Just like do it

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>>164613923
this is the real good shit you've never heard about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaemvJjYrsM

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>>164614494
Even on a gentle slope someone standing like that would just fall down.

>>164613923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlfGw0kiy7k

also, where is your game?

>>164614417
Make something interesting that makes an artist want to work with you. Then never get any art from them because you're not paying them.

>>164614672
Not with my SUPER-GRIP 9000™ tennis shoes.

>>164614814
i lied, i'm actually playing overwatch right now

>>164614417

Create a professional looking, and well organized design document with a proof of concept. Artists want to be paid most of the time, but you have a higher chance of attracting one interested in doing it for free if your idea looks like it might actually come out.

>>164614816
>you're not paying them.
Thats what kickstarter is for! Right?

>>164613923
The wii version may be shit for intense game music, but it is great for everything else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96bAxXF1cOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yrCXIaOyd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h-g3unK56Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WeaEDaB3-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Tdb9KTy-E

>>164614417
ask on /ic/ to see if anyone has some downtime and is interested :^)

>>164615296
>posting the fucking unpatched US Wii versions
holy shit nigger what the fuck are you doing
those are literally broken, the instruments and shit were glitched out on launch
https://youtu.be/jU-r-aePWWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SViCdYr5qM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFVyv14VMJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73-rWN2pQvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqAiv5tIANc

>>164615591
cavestory+ was a mistake
nicalis was a mistake

>>164613923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USrQWctiHzg

>>164615739
CSWii predates CS+ and was broken in a shitload of other ways on launch
you are 100% right, though

>>164613923
>>164614062
>>164614480
>>164614636
>>164614814
>>164615296
>>164615591
>>164615815
Unfriendly reminder this is not your chatroom and nobody is listening to your fag ass music

>>164615575
Don't do this asking for free art on /ic/ will get you told to gtfo in the best case or banned on the worst case

>>164615915
jokes on you, i always listen to music other people post

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>>164615591
>hate unity but love c#

But I'm a master of menus in unreal, loading levels and changing settings like its going out of style.

Suppose learning engine will take time, might as well work on some shitty libtcod roguelike alongside to keep c++ adequate.

>>164615915
Actually I've got a lot of good deving music from AGDG, thread police officer sir

>>164615739
I won't it was a improvement, but it sure was something beautiful in a extremely misunderstood way

>>164615915
lies. I sometimes go listen to some other anons music

>>164614816
>Make something interesting that makes an artist want to work with you.
This triggers me to no end.

>just do all the hard coding work and have a game in an already playable state
>only then you will be worth enough to get an artist attention
Fuck this mentality.

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Still learning blender but I managed to make a tree. Took me almost 3 fucking days.
248 tris

>>164615862
tfw they initially took the shide around the boulder in the labyrinth and just redrew it as a squiggly line because they had no idea what they were looking at

>>164615915
I'm listening to all the music in this thread you butthead.

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Wrapping up my dev day with a quick goofy loop for my demo

https://soundcloud.com/jasozz/zamn3d-battle-loop-1

>>164615975
:^)

>>164616168
>this nigga doesn't even know what a proof of concept is

>>164616168
>Artists don't work too
What else are they supposed to do?
>Your idea is so special important that they should bend the knee when you haven't even made anything yet yourself
Art assets without code to work it may as well be fanart for a nonexistent game.

Both parties need to participate but you're not going to get an artist to work with you if you haven't put some skin in the game yourself because they're putting their neck out for you as well.

>>164616168
>Fuck this mentality.
What mentality? Not wanting to work for somebody else but not get paid to do so, unless you really believe in them? Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

>>164616021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SZfoItFL8k

>>164616168
fuck your shitty spaghetti coded, poorly architectured, cookie cutter game

>not having artist friends who like you enough that they work with you for fun and are happy with just taking a cut of the dosh afterwards
>not having artist friends who will work on a game for nine years with you
never gonna make it

>>164616302
i like it.
however, the first thing that comes to my mind when listening to that is not shooting zombies, i don't think it fits super well. what actually does come to my mind when listening to it is battle music in a turn based jrpg.

that is just my opinion though, nothing personal

>>164616535
t. engie

>>164616168
Become your own artist, more work but less hassle in the end and you won't risk having someone ditch you because you're not paying.

>>164616648
I have one but I don't work with him because I must do everything myself

>>164616519
This is not what I expected when I read the title

>>164616469
>Both parties need to participate
Exactly.

Tell me where is your participation when I already have a full functional game. Why the fuck should I bother looking for an artist then? Even more considering the fact that you probably gave me stupid replies like >>164616482 or >>164616535 when I asked you to collaborate.

Either collaborate from the get go or fuck off.

>>164615591
What are you talking about Anon, both of these are EuWii version. Besides, some tracks do sound better on the US version for me.

>>164617128
Listen to Access in that extended version. It's definitely the US version.

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>>164617002
Sorry anon I don't shitpost to win an argument. The participation from the artist is making your game marketable to other people because unless you're going for minimalist aesthetic like Thomas Was Alone that's gonna be a hard sell if the game doesn't look appetizing.

>>164617002
Dude, you're a fucking moron. It's perfectly reasonable for an artist to not want to work with a programmer who hasn't proved themselves in exactly the same way it would be perfectly reasonable for a programmer to not want to work with an artist who had not yet proved themselves. If you think the only reasonable relationship between to people is for them to take it on faith that the other is capable of performing their duties, without any evidence beforehand, then you live in a reality totally isolated from actual existence.

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>>164617002
coding my own game, because it's so much fucking easier than the 3 years i spent just to get my art up to scratch

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I think this will make a great game

>>164618417
kek
>>164616302
pic looks awesome

Anyone know how to use JSONUtility in Unity? The manual doesn't explain shit and I haven't found any helpful tutorials.

An example would be nice. I'm trying to read strings from arrays in a single JSON file but Unity doesn't seem to like that.

>>164612631
this is so good

question, why does the player pawn generate hit events on destructible meshes but not the vehicle pawn in UE4?

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where mah 3d devs at?

>>164618417
nice
that's a very well-modelled ass

>>164619001
How many times are you going to drop and remake the same game?

>>164618417
put it on patreon and start collecting your $20,000/month

>>164619001
Just compilled ogre3D and the first tutorial

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>>164619001
Not anymore.

>>164619001
why does your protag look so..lame?

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>>164619001
don't tempt me to go back to this I have to focus on my current game

agdg is the best place to steal ideas from, 99% of the people who post here give up on their game anyway

>>164619226
until i get it right i guess. could be a while

>>164619549
i dont know how to design characters

>>164613795
look up how N+ did their angle/curve collisions, they're super great.

>>164619643
I post ideas specifically so other people will make them. I want to see them made. It's too bad 99% of people who steal ideas also give up.

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>>164619643
>mfw this is the only reason i lurk here, quietly adding others content and ideas to my game

>>164619819
post some ideas then pls, looking for some ideas that havent been done to death

what's the most efficient way to create animations? I use motion builder

do I just use keyframes? or should I use poses?

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>>164619468
>that crouch animation and crawl

>>164619643
>tfw you ask a dev if you can steal their idea and they don't reply
Does that mean yes

>>164619906
a plumber is tripping on mushrooms

>>164619643
Why not just ask them to give their game as it is then? If I got bored of a project, I could agree giving it to someone else who wants to complete it or use it.

>>164619001
wew that looks stiff and slow, improve on that game feel, my dude

>>164619906
an open world rapefugee simulator playing in germany

>>164620025
it means
>there's nothing I can say to stop this guy from stealing my shit

>>164619906
you're a black kid and you abduct a handicapped white kid and then torture the white kid because he's white and you're black and that's not ok

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Drew slope things and decided to mess with animation.
>tfw godot has so many fun things implemented
>I am too stupid to understand them

>>164619906
Ideas are cheap. You can make a game that has been done to death, tweak it slightly, and polish the hell out of it, and it will sell as long as you market it well.
Choose you favorite game and remake it, make it fun, polish it.

>>164620368
>Ideas are cheap
shit and generic ideas are cheap, yeah

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>tfw your webms are always too big for 4chan

>>164619643
>>164620092
anyone want a love2d network-multiplayer walking simulator? i abandoned it long ago; the code is somewhat spaghetti but could be a lot worse

>>164620458
pomf.cat

>>164620651
don't think the anime poster actually have a webm

>>164620452
>got this great idea, imagine a game where it's just blocks everywhere, you can delete and remove blocks, and blocks have different textures!
>what a shitty generic idea, who would play that?

This idea has made several billion dollars

>>164620025
It means he believes you're not going to do anything either way.

>>164620458
mixtape.moe

>>164613923
happy song yay

>>164614062
groovy meem

>>164614480
reminds me of persona 3 music, nice

>>164614814
>The Megas
top tier remix choices anon

>>164619906
iterate on FTL.

The rogue-like and worldmap stuff is pretty shit game design and you could come up with something better in an afternoon and just rip the ship mechanics.

Localized music sources with intensity relative to the player in guiding level design.

https://u.nya.is/lvykai.mp3

I'm a genius lads.

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>>164613923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8w_Q57RQJc

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Hows this for a floor transition? Is the Dark Souls font too lame? Want to have levels separated into a few floors like every other roguelite ever

>>164620651
>>164620913
But then people have to click a link and won't bother looking at my progress!

>>164620753
Don't worry unfunposter I got your webm right here

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>>164620095
is there any easy changes I can do to make it better?

Should robots be able to get drunk?

https://clyp.it/bpd4uyz0

>>164620512
Looks like a fun project Anon. Most of us are already doing a project though, including me.

We should do a /agdg/ list of GitHub links to unfinished games made by aggy daggies so people can pick up unfinished projects or jam projects if they want.

>>164621447
>clicking links
I use 4ChanX, so it embeds. I always look at progress as long as it's a webm.

That's looking nice. The font doesn't really match, but it's fine I guess.

>>164620249
That's lookin nice. Don't worry, you'll learn everything with practice!

>>164621447
i love the transition

is construct 2 worth a shit?

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>>164621692
Yeh I don't know what kind of font I should use. Is there a good gallery of fonts somewhere?

agdg official theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asPTAL5xk18

>>164619001
3d too hard. Reducing scope.

>>164620780
how was that a generic idea?
there were literally zero other games where you could do that at the time

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>>164621585
But robots are always drunk. The music sounds good.

>>164622185
Yes there were, Minecraft started as a copy of infiniminer.

>>164622054
>not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
literally /agdg/'s 4chan cup soccer anthem

>>164621452
Make swinging a lot faster, and create a white slash that's bigger than the sword, so the slash can reach farther without resizing the sword.

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they're alive, for better or worse

>>164622662
Getting spooky

>>164611249
>you can just make your own

>>164622662
If you're trying to be terrifying, you've suceeded

>>164612017
like others have said, make it so that you still focus on the character and not the background

that being said, a different pattern could be used for a trippy or spoopy sequence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eesX8ob49zk&t=3m55s

>>164622329
a game I hadn't heard of until after the success of minecraft

>>164623041
So you're agreeing with me then. Minecraft took a generic idea that had already been done, added its own twist, polished it sort of, marketed it better, and made billions.

So I've never been able to create art assets in a proper perspective or with a consistent art style. Should I just ignore it and make trashy placeholders until my game is done?

>>164623041
That's exactly the point. Ideas are a dime a dozen, execution is what really matters

>>164614636
this inspires me to do a game with that artstyle. cool

>>164621272
downloaded it from yesterday's thread. very nice too

>>164615815
lucky for you, I enjoy ASMR too, else it would've been just very creepy. it is still kinda creepy though. pretty nice to listen to this at night

>>164621851
>give it a quick try
>doesnt work at all with my windows theme
>inbuilt themes literally just dont apply
>have to buy it to actually really use it in any capacity

Well, nevermind, I guess.

>>164622662
Spooky. Is the player going to be able to interact with them like those SMT games do?

>>164623524
>diamond dozen

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>>164623523
It worked for Braid. The game was programmer art for most of the development.
Just make sure you can easily slot in any resolution art without having to tweak every number in the game. And make sure you can expand the artistic side if need be, you may want to add some effects or something later that you didn't think of in early development.

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Weight control, going to smooth out the pushing.
Longer webm: https://my.mixtape.moe/bixdoz.webm

>>164623726
Try Godot. It just works, and is more powerful than Construct2. Also you'll never have to pay for any part of it.

>>164623994
>Godot. It just works
lole

>>164623994
I was drawn to the visual programming style of Construct2, I've found it's immeasurably easier for me than looking at text-based code, even though it's similar in terms of actual skills used. I heard Godot has something like that but only in the development branch?

>>164623926
This looks really good. Combat looks like it'll be fun. I like the background too.

>>164624125
Thanks, I hope the combat will be both fun and challenging since it's pretty much most of the game.

>>164623524
>>164623337
>So you're agreeing with me then.
no, he had an idea for a game that you and I did not have
he made a game with a mechanic that you and I had never seen before
this is the opposite of generic

it doesn't matter if he stole the idea or not
generic would be if you or I right now made another minecraft-esque game, because everyone has seen it a dozen times already

>>164624107
Yeah Godot has visual scripting in the works, it's in the 2.2 development branch. The stable release containing visual scripting is still a couple months away though.

>>164624405
is it any good? again, I know it's still programming, but the visuals really help me out

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Can someone explain this?

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>>164623926
I'm so jealous of your art skills. Keep up the good work.

>>164624567
Yeah it is pretty good, and visual scripting actually fits Godot's node and scene style better than I expected. I'm not really a fan of visual scripting though so I haven't used it much myself.

>>164624804
cool, i will look into it. thanks anon

>>164624648
Thanks and just practice anon! This was me trying hard when I started working on this game. I couldn't even finish this drawing: https://my.mixtape.moe/mjgrnr.png

>>164624804
I've been using it for a couple weeks and it's pretty good. I have a question for more experienced users though: Is Godot supposed to take this fucking long to load itself, or is this just a consequence of the development branch I happen to be using? Or my computer, I guess.

>>164625507
I've been using a 2.2 dev build from December 4th. It takes a couple seconds to load the engine, and a second or less to load my game. I'm not sure why it's slow for you.

>>164625507
It's usually pretty quick for me. How long is it taking you in seconds?

>>164619468
I know this is ancient bait and not yours, but what is this game? It's just my style of shitty graphics

>>164625667
>>164625725
It takes about 10 seconds or more to load an incredibly simple scene with just text in it. I'm running the engine off of an SSD with the project files on an HDD. Is that the cause of the issue? It has never caused issue with other engines I've used.

>>164625804
no godot is just shit

>>164625804
Testing further, even the stable release takes like 10 seconds to load the project manager, about 20 seconds to load the editor, and then about 10 more seconds just to load a scene with "Hello, World!" on it. This is all off an SSD that I know performs well, seeing as I use it all the time.

>>164625804
>>164626248
That's strange, I've never seen anyone say they've had load times that long. Might be worth asking for help on the Godot QA site.

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>>164626248
just tried on mine, 8 seconds to load project manager, 5 to load the editor and a pong scene. just a usual hard drive with a linux distro.

clearly its your non-free OS

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>>164625792
an old experiment/joke project.I guess it is oddly comforting in its shittiness though with its super real textures and horrible everything else.

it is mine

>>164626591
>>164626701
I guess I'll go ask, yeah. There really should be no particular reason this is happening though.

>>164626738
i dig it

>>164626738
its oddly charming. you should add an dramatic, intentionally convoluted story mode and publish it on steam

>>164627004
Nintendo Nightmare exists.

>>164626701
honestly 13 seconds is still way too much time

I used to have to wait that long for my clojuredev stuff to boot up and it was unbearable

>>164627057
but this is better

>>164626738
look at the popularity of thecatamites (space funeral) and michael brough (corrypt, imbroglio). this artstyle has a niche

>>164626701
It takes me 4 seconds to load project manager, and 3-4 seconds to load my game which is larger than pong. I use Windows 10

it can't jack off to vr porn without laughing afterwards

>>164627416
sounds like good porn

>>164624632
Destructible component doesn't have 'Generate hit events' turned on?
Why are you casting to the Sedan but not actually doing anything as the Sedan?

On a side note, mad props to Epic, they've fixed all the issues I was facing, after updating shit-just-worked.

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>>164627004
>you should go back and finish this to put on steam
You essentially just told me I should cut myself all over, bathe in lemon juice, and roll around in a vat of hot coals.

>>164628154
ok, if you're not gonna keep going, I'll steal this artstyle and do it in unity then

>>164627573
I do get a hit event if I use the player character, but not with the wheeled vehicle

This is just a test, I'm going to add damage on hit event, but I can't now since doesn't fire.

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>>164628154
kinky

In GMS, how can I optimize my tiles? I have an endless chunk based world, but after a few hundred chunks my FPS takes a decent hit. I have no idea how to use buffers or any of that...

>>164628265
It's a weird position. Part of the fun was working around gamemaker to put together hacky solutions and was what made it different from just making generic shitty unity 3d platformer #289494, but if I was going to go back to make it something real I would use Unity because of the reality that making something with arbitrary rules doesn't improve the product for the end user. I can't actually tell you you're not allowed to make your own quasi trash graphics game though even if I want to come back to it. I will say if you want to do that realistic textures are what make it, other 3D gamemaker projects I felt very different without it.

>>164612017
Something like this could be used in a disaster scenario (player on low health / confused / tripping).

>>164628672

Are you optimizing it in any way right now? Like making the tiles not draw off screen?

You can save your chunk data to .ini files and delete them, then reload them when you need them also.

>>164628672
You're not drawing objects that are permanently stationary and non-interactable, are you? Even if they're placed dynamically, you can do some fuckery with surfaces to keep from having to draw them every frame (it involves drawing them and then saving that image to a surface, and then you no longer have to draw them, I'm out of practice so I forget the specifics).

>>164628959
>You can save your chunk data to .ini files and delete them, then reload them when you need them also.
This is pretty overkill and will likely hurt performance even more. It's not a memory issue, it's a rendering issue.

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Press [X] to smug meido

Adding taunting, going to give her an animation too.
You will be able to cancel attacks into it and it will make enemies near you attack.

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>>164628154
Look, if you're not going to finish this gem, post source so the artisans of agdg can take it where it needs to go.

>>164628442
Try printing the other actor or component to see who's hitting it

>>164629168

The trick is saving and loading the ini at a time the player won't be effected if you can help it and only brute forcing it as a final measure.

>>164629298
The trick is to not do that at all unless you know that your problems are from memory exhaustion.

>>164628959
I'm not. Right now, I basically have ds grids generate tiles, then draw them. Would deleting the tiles affect the performance?

>>164629162
I thought about this, but I'm not sure how to implement it.

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>everything works

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>>164629430

>>164629416
Then now would be the time to learn.

anyone want some junk food games? i bought the assassin's creed humble bundle but i already have 2 and 3. im aware AC is hated but you cant go wrong with free i guess

>>164629521
what if., GOD is a Programer?

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>>164629263

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>>164622615
this look better?

>>164629298
>>164629343
And even then you sure as hell wouldn't use INI files (I don't even know how you would). You'd dump the chunks in binary.

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>>164629605

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this is what engine devs want but what they will never have

>>164629252
I'd rather finish my current game before worrying about that one, especially because it would open the can of worms of Unity making it boring VS continuing in gamemaker and the asinine workload to make any new features. Besides basic things like input or rendering it was raw math and bullshit rather than any actual GM features.

>>164629813
Class Quaternion
{
def Euler(float x, float y, float z)
{
//put euler code here
}
}

>>164629813
>mutating in place instead of making a new copy of the game state for fixed timestep interpolation
Nah, I'm not jealous.

>>164629694
The hell. You definitely hit something. Ask the car what component it thinks it's colliding with? Convert collision to overlap, print other actor on event overlap to inspect?

>>164629713
you still seem to be not hitting a lot of those attacks, having such a small range isn't super fun, especially with the inconsistency, since from what i can tell, the overhead swing doesn't hit the same areas as the horizontal swings.

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>>164629605
>someone programmed our universe
>someone else programmed that persons universe
>someone else programmed that persons universe
>some day we will program a million universes
>there never was a real universe

>>164629813
>>164629936
Also, that's wasted trigonometry operations. You don't need to evaluate sin/cos for 90 degrees. The compiler might evaluate it at compile time but I wouldn't count on it.

>>164629815
Whatever you do, don't abandon it completely. It's hilarious.

I heard normies and chinks don't like pixel styled games. Is this true? Context, I'm making a mobile game (not p2w so calm your tits)

>>164629605
perhaps, He is an Engine Developer!

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BONELORD dev not sure if you are here, but finally played your demo and wanted to give my review on it, but you don't have comments enabled on its page.

- Tutorial levels feel a little slow, unless you intentionally wanted it to be slow paced you should make it a little bit faster to get through at least at the start (so is less tedious), like making the doors easier to break and gradually get stronger.
- Not sure if it is inteded to be that way but summons have a hard time following me and usually get stuck. Makes you go back for them a lot and sometimes you can't really unstuck them.
- A health indicator for summons would be useful. Nothing too complicated or fancy, maybe change the color of their aura to red when they are low on HP. Would work great with the Heal skill.
- Enemies dying and summons dying need distinctive sound effects. Maybe have the the enemies screaming?

Love the idea, graphics, and music. Hope to see more updates on the game, is really fun and promising.

>>164630106
pixel games on phones rarely work out

they are too wildly inconsistent in DPI and resolution

>>164630218
I'm currently doing a 2d mobile game with pixels and yes it is a pain with multiple resolutions. The saving grace is that you're never looking too closely.

>>164630202
he went back to devving his other game

You guys ever feel like you cant do it anymore? The suddenly you get real hyped about your project?

The only thing stopping me from achieving my dreams was myself! LETS DEV FOREVER!

>>164630434
Oh I see. Well the feedback could be useful to him if he ever goes back to it. It's a nice game after all.

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apparently we're still not done with weapon keywords somehow.

Someone made this in their first year of learning programming. https://twitter.com/minionsart/

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>>164629958
I sized up the collider for the weapon damage so hits are hopefully easier to land.

The overhead swing was put in there for hitting enemies that fly above the ground, but other than that its not to useful.

To do the overhead move you have to press and hold the attack button, so im thinking of making it deal extra damage as well since its kind of a charged-single target attack with not many uses.

>>164630986
what's your workflow like, how do you plan out your gamefeel and juice

>>164631025
Did you use a tutorial to make this?

>>164631013
>have a heightmap texture for the snow level, constantly draw blobs to make it lower where things are and slowly fade to high to make it look like snow is also falling
Wow that's so impressive.

>>164631090
literally just building it up over time. if something doesn't feel good enough, or I feel it could be better, it gets changed.

>>164631013
it's just unity copy/paste

>>164631234
Im not just talking about the snow. Im talking about everything. The movement the combat the Z targeting the floaty drone thing and hud.

>>164631340
I don't see what's to be surprised about anon, they're using an engine and a lot of what they did isn't new so it was possible to find tutorials/sample code to get them started.
Art's pretty good.

>>164631210
nope sorry, all custom made.

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>>164629950
this is so weird, the car does return a hit.

So it should work.

>>164631340
All of it is extremely bare bones. Which is fine, it's not really bad or good, just functional. Loads of newbies in here try to go overboard on juice and end up with something terrible, but this guy just goes for the minimal viable product and it works because the art is so nice.

>>164631591
helps that the person is an artist

>>164631495
Can you ask it what component it's hitting? Is there something it can collide with before the destructible?
But anyway, you can do the reverse, instead of the house initiating the damage the car can do it.

>>164631591
I wish I knew where you guys go to get all this info for stuff. Feels like I been walking in circles for 2 years now.

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>>164631812

>>164632103
That's the car's component, what component of the house BP is it hitting?

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>>164610479
What are the actual benefits of making a 2d game with C++/SFML instead of something like GameMaker? GameMaker is always meme'd as a shit engine but no one ever explains why.

What about a single player game where healer plays the main role

>>164632408
insecurity
greedy jews who believe their magnum opus will set them for life economically and would rather avoid spending a dime on tools

>>164632326
The component of the house BP returns nothing.

>>164632408
it's like asking why use drafting software and blueprints when building a house instead of using legos

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can someone help me? I couldn't figure out how to rotate an object in world space so without the Rotate function so I created a dummy gameobject and rotated that instead. How do I actually do this without using a dummy object? I tried transform.rotation * Quaternion.Angelaxis(90f, Vector3.right) and transform.rotation * Quaternion.Angelaxis(90f, Camera.main.transform.right) but does would end up becoming local rotations. i.e if I rotate the object 90° around the up axis and then try to rotate it 90° around the right axis, it wouldn't actually rotate 90° around the world right axis but instead its own right axis. please send help it's urgent

>>164632590
>matrix shit
create a rotation matrix that represents all of the rotations for all of the axes you want, then apply it to the thing which needs rotating

>>164632763
i'm a unity baby, i can't

>>164632408
If you enjoy programming then learning to make an engine is fun.
If you just want to make a game quickly, use an engine.

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>>164632584
The fuck. Google tells me others have had this issue. Solution was the same as the current, just use the car.
Maybe related to this?
https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/220347/only-root-components-collision-is-being-detected.html
Try the destructible as the root if possible?

I'm terribly tired, sorry if I'm no use.

>>164632590
Instead of using the rotate function set the rotation value

transform.rotation = new Quat(oldX + 90 ...)

>>164633309
tried that already, that also rotates in local space

>>164633301

I think you're on to something, since the player character has a root collision while the car doesn't (it uses physics assets as collision)

>>164632590
Have you tried not using Quaternions?

transform.Rotate(0,speed,0);
Something like that where speed is your rotation using only eulers

>>164632408
There is basically no benefit. The main drawback of an engine is that they are typically made to be general purpose and easy to use. This can cause various problems. The game could run worse than it would if it were programmed from scratch. The engine might not have a feature you need and you'll have to do some hacky workaround to make it work. The engine might have extra baggage that you don't need for your game. The engine might not be structured to work best with your game.
But in almost all cases these are non-issues. Engines offer lots of options to work with most games.

Gamemaker is good. If you want something open source Godot is good too, so you could edit the low level things.

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>>164632590
oh shit i fixed it. apparently the order is important when multiplying quats. if i swap them around, for some reason, it changes from local space to world space. who knew.

UDEMY YES OR NO

>>164634405
depends on the course, obviously

>>164634296
This is just proof that quaternions are pure magic.

>>164617002
Take a look at Rimworld - although I believe that the dev did all the art himself, but before he had time to make the art, all of the colonists were just circles, yet he coded the game as a proof of concept, to see if the game was even any fun in the first place. So make a proof of concept before you ask any artists to join your game.

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>>164634450
Got these, they were cheap.

>>164634684
>Ben Tristem
>Ben Tristem
>Ben Tristem
>Ben Tristem
Is this nigga everywhere?

>>164634742
>over 130k students on the Unity course alone
Dude is rich as fuck.

>>164634405
i did webdev udemy courses, they were great. i think at $10, udemy is a steal.

>>164634787
>130k students on the Unity course
can't wait to see 130,000 new shitty unity games come out

>>164634405
No
Get em free or find free ones.

>>164634893
I've bought some and sat on them for more than a year, pretty sure most people stop after the first lessons.

>>164634971
Shit's cheap as hell.

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I'm actually having fun. Hard to get webms under the size limit now. That spawn rate though.

Don't mind the small bugs or the crafts with dirt, debug playtesting. Also give me some comfy blocks/items to add. Reminds me that I need to get started on the farm system too.

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think this deserves another webm.

>>164635290
Ah yes, the "fuck your shit" beam.

>>164635207
Chairs to sit at and tables with food on them to eat please just give me that. I hate building bases and being completely unable to interact with them.

>>164632408
Benefits of enginedev is often pretty subjective and up to personal preference but I think a big win of enginedev is that you end up with more maintainable code. Engines often force you to write really shitty code which means hell if you ever have to go back over it in the future.

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another enemy. rolls around after the player.

>>164636228
>Engines often force you to write really shitty code
Never had this problem.

>>164636019
>I hate building bases and being completely unable to interact with them.
I hear ya, and this is precisely what I intended to add to begin with.

I've just been stuck on thinking about what kind of art I'm willing to do, and I thought fuck it I'm just going to keep things like that for a while.

>>164634296
Like matrices, quaternion multiplication doesn't commute. Order of transformation always matters.

Take an ordinary, asymmetrical object and lay it flat down on something. Rotate it 90 degrees clockwise. Now flip it upside down away from you. Note how it looks. Start again but do them in the reverse order. It will be different.

>>164634467
Nice meme.

Guys, I have a serious question.
How do you make a game replayable and worth replaying?

How to music?

>>164614816
>The coder should work for free but the artist should get paid from the coder
Ok but then they're not getting any of the profit from the game I hope they realize that.

>>164632976
>If you want to make a game, use an engine
Fixed.

I've LITERALLY never seen an enginefag ever finishing a game.

>>164636349
Globals and dynamic message passing are bad.

>>164636575
Vagante.
Lethal League.

>>164636245
What's with all the dark souls ripoffs

>>164636245
too much camera movement, don't pan the camera with the player.

>>164636631
Literally non-agdgs

>>164636575
I reckon the percentage of engine users and enginedevs that drop their projects before finishing is about the same. It's just that all the enginedevs who haven't dropped their games are not finished yet because it takes longer.

>>164635207
Looks pretty good. Have any ideas how you're going to distinguish it from terraria (beyond the 3d)?

It feels like you could eventually do a lot of unconventional stuff with the back plane. Maybe let a lot of interactable objects lay on the back plane facing out towards the player, so you can stack things vertically and interact with them without going into a menu. The best example of what I'm thinking of is like a 2-tile smelting table, you drag and drop ore into the left tile and it does some stuff and pipes out to the right tile, and it's all facing out towards the player so they can see all of the steps, if that makes sense. It might be a cool way to handle UI clutter, and you could do this with any sort of interactable object (a farm would work too. You could even stick waterfall blocks above the wheat (or whatever) tiles for a water source).

I think of this every time you post your game desu

>>164614417
Two ways, either make something cool on your own to attract artists, or the universal motivator, money.

Since I don't have the latter, I did a couple projects for the former and now I've got one and a musicbro to boot.

>>164636798
http://homph.com/steam/ Literally AGDG.

>>164636867
BAZINGLED

>>164636849
Reminder that being fuckbuddies with your artist/musicbro means your productivity will increase.

>>164636867
>all these brazilian games
ewwwwwwwww

>>164637051
hue

>>164635207
I remember from an older WebM you don't have smooth movement towards or away. Why?

Also reminder to fix the camera.

>>164636962
We all live on separate corners of the country so that'd be pretty difficult. Besides, I'm not cute at all.

>>164636867
>the only games that sold anything worth were released before 2015

I'm fucked right?

>>164637082
SBgames this year?

>>164636575
I will finish my game this year or kill myself. It's my new years resolution.

It's a small game so it should be easy!!!

>>164637192
It's still good cashola if you're a one man army and don't spend too much time on any given project.

>>164637230
>SBgames this year?
>SBgames
What did he mean by this?

>>164637185
I think you're cute!

>>164637273
A BR event for devs, where at the end there's this huge gay orgy. I met the momodora and dreaming sarah devs there, fucking my holes.

>>164637374
lol

>>164636825
>Have any ideas how you're going to distinguish it from terraria
I'm not going for a terraria-like actually, I just added building elements because I like them.
Besides I suck at art and I'm 1MA so realistically speaking that would be a foolish goal to try if I want to finish my game.
Ideally a castle-metroidvania sounds highly compatible with the battle system I have, so I'm thinking on how to mix that in a good way.

For the background that was the plan, having items that can be interacted with, crafting tables and other things. Maybe I should start adding things like that instead of bothering myself with art.

>>164637101
>you don't have smooth movement towards or away
What do you mean? And you and that camera m8.

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Left or right?

>>164638143
both.
a girl can never have too much cute accessories.

>>164638143
oh my god who fucking cares

>>164638143
it's a video game, why compromise? make the ribbons orbit around

man the visual scripting in godot is kind of incomprehensible with this version

i hope it gets better on release. some actual tutorials would be great too

>>164637602
>What do you mean?
Like, you can either be in line with the front blocks or in line with the back blocks. You're not moving freely.

>>164637284
aww gee anon stop it your making me blush

>>164638143
left.

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Looking for opinions

Procedural generation of terrain, caves, mountains, etc.

Currently all tiles are squares, but looking into making it a little more natural looking compared to totally atari/minecraft. Considering straight lines, but in practice it still looks pretty unnatural and literally looks like something out of a cave tutorial trying not to be all squares. Currently leaning towards the third option of rounded edges on fuller blocks.

This is not a platformer so it won't impact strange walking physics or anything and these are just examples of the shapes. Opinions?

>>164638550
Actually before you could move freely between the lines. After playtesting I've decided that it wasn't worth keeping.

The thing is, crouching is a part of the game I'm going to keep so I had to think of a way to combine both moving on plans or allowing people to crouch while pressing down, which I did by putting depth movement on R.
I could probably inverse and make crouching on R but I never liked that kind of control for fighting, down for crouching just feels better.

Besides the second plan doesn't necessarily give more depth to the battle so it's best to just let the player focus on one plan. I'll just use 3D properly on my rune factory project.

>>164638258
sensibly chuckled

>>164614202
Thanks for the answer! You are a true inspiration!

>>164638934
Take a look at the sprites that Terraria uses for irregular terrain.

Tender Arms dev, are you here?

Your movement always looks smooth as fuck, and I wonder how do you do it? I go with the usual method of

position += directionVector * (speed * deltaTime)

but it doesn't have the same good feeling.

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I'm trying to think of win conditions for my shopkeeper game, because it's easy to say "Oh I want a game about ____" and then start programming, but if I don't have a clear goal of mechanics and win conditions in mind I'll just endlessly and blindly develop features and that's no good.

Here's the scope I'm thinking right now:
> Game start:
Choose 1 of 3 randomly generated shopkeepers with different effects ("Easier to barter high prices", "2x Health", etc)

>Gameplay:
- Start with a small item shop, a small amount of money, and a few randomly generated items in your stock.
- You can generate a dungeon floor by paying gold, the more gold you pay the harder the enemies inside of it and the more valuable loot they drop
- Sell loot in your shop (or use it as equipment), upgrading size, item display, aesthetic (to attract certain types of customers)
- A time-chunk system: Morning, Noon, Night

>Loss conditions:
- Hitting 0 Gold
- Failing to pay an increasing rent every 7 days
- Dying twice in a single dungeon run (When you die the first time, you will have the option of losing all your items and running away, or losing all your items and replenishing your health to continue)

>Win Conditions (Here's where I'm struggling for ideas to make the game worth playing)
- Reach X amount of money ?
- Complete a checklist of either Shop or Dungeon Crawl achievements (Darkest Dungeon style "goals")
- Successfully complete a dungeon generated by X (high) amount of gold and attain the best treasure

Yes I am actually asking for idea guys. What's a way to make this work and be enjoyable in a strategic, replayable way? I think I like the last win condition the best.

>>164639594
you should probably cap your framerate unless you are using doubles for floating point calculations

>>164639594
you need to come up with a backstory so that the guy has a reason to be running a shop in the first place
then you can come up with an end goal
maybe he opened a shop so that he could make enough money to save his village or something like that
then the win condition is "get x money"

>>164640264
There's a v-sync option in the game settings, if that's what you mean.

>>164640313
I'm shooting for more arcade-style replaying-with-different-strategies type gameplay. Giving a big backstory and fleshing out a single character would take away from that. I want the feeling to be "It's ok to fuck up and die and have to choose another shopkeeper to try again", unlike recettear or stardew valley's slower-paced gameplay styles where failure hits harder and runs are very similar to each other.

Instead, the small backstory I'm thinking is "There's an empty plot of land that is rumored to bring fortune to whoever can tame it" (hence the ability to generate dungeons from gold), which brings out hordes of hopeful entrepreneurs that want to try and develop their business on it (which explains choosing 1 from a set of randomly generated shopkeepers with different abilities).

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I put labels on stuff, how does this look as far as interacting with stuff in the background?

>>164640560
in that case how about no win condition, or a high score system?
then it can just get harder and harder until you lose