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Buffer edition
>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
Yes

>Can I make enough ISK as an Alpha to PLEX?
No

>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy (embed) (embed) (embed)

Future:
>2017/01/09 is the last day to receive the 12th YC119 gift!

Past:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 26: AT prizes announced (blood raider variations)
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
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Which faction is the best and why is it gallente?
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>Capacitor
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>>164596243
Cause hybrid turrets are pretty neato.
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>>164596243
blasters + drones = OP as fuck
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Whats the math for hybrid turret tracking? How fast do they have to be going for it to be better to switch to Antimatter over Void? Is there somewhere i can find this information that isnt outdated like eve uni?
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>>164596448
>blasters
>good
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>>164596584
>How fast

that's not how it works. go read a guide
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I'll get the shitposting started.
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Heavy missiles
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>>164596928
I obviously meant how high transversal needs to be. Also every place i looked was outdated.
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people still play this game?
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>>164596784
>/dog/
>knowing how to use weapons
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>build a Porpoise to sell
>don't bother to check the m3 when packaged because I haul BCs all the time and they're medium
>50k m3
>Bestower can only hold 30k m3
>17 days to DST

Fuck.
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Low Sec Mining or Low Sec Missions
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>>164597762
Lowsec missions are by far safer. Lowsec mining doesn't exist
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Anyone want to trade Neopoints for ISK?
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>>164598000
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>>164598000
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>>164598000
good triples!
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>>164598000
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>>164598000
You mean AUR? Did they rename it?
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>>164596584
CCP decided to tell the players to fuck themselves by having "weapon accuracy score" instead of angular velocity so no clue.
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>>164599337
It's back tho.
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Why is evepraisal so bad?

I'm looking at a list of explo stuff I got and it claims I would get ~400m for it in Jita by selling it to buy orders.

But in reality it's only ~285m. Sure is a big difference. What the heck?
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Man does it take forever to fill up the retriever.
I guess the 9m/hour makes it all worth though.

Is the covetor really that bad tho?
Needs to make 3 more trips to transport same volume as retriever.
Mines 33% more

If my math is correct, for it to be worth it the time lost on 3 extra trips has to be smaller than the time it takes to mine those 33% extra on retriever.
So 6987.5 m3 of ore divided by ~1116.67 m3 per minute, that's over 6 minutes.
Can covetor really not do 3 trips to a station and slowboat back into belt 3 times in less than 6 minutes?
What about with warp rigs?
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>>164599465
because its not just for jita, its the forge region. It also takes into account citadels
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>>164599419
I just checked, and it says "Turret tracking: 300"

What do I do with that number? How do I translate it to angular velocity?
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>>164599505
>and slowboat back into belt 3 times in less than 6 minutes?
Use bookmarks.
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>>164599505
Any math you do to see the best way to make money mining will always be pennies compared to some multibox rorqual fleet off in nullsec
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>>164599538
It makes no sense to me

Take "Capacitor Console" for example.
eve-marketdata.com says the highest buy order available for that in Jita is ~777k ISK

eve-central says the same.

And evepraisal clames I can get 1.67m on buy orders for it in Jita.
That's just horrible, what a gap
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>>164599667
Iirc it has something to do with radians and shit
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>>164599790
>in jita

because its NOT just jita, its the forge region

Eve-praisal pulls from the same market API
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>>164599667
you read a turret guide because you don't need to know your tracking speed
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>>164599942
Are you retarded or do you not get what I am saying or what?

evepraisal is fucked. completely fucked.
There ARE NO 1.67m buy orders for capacitor consoles in jita, in the region or anywhere. so fuck off.
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>>164599794
Yes, angular velocity is measured in radians per second, and by that math, my blasters should spin 360 degrees 80 times per second. Maybe I need to divide it by 1000?

Anyone has any clue on how to calculate turret tracking?
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>>164600041
I already told you to read a guide and l2sigradius. pls stop
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>>164599669
That's awesome.

>>164599719
Yeah but I can't do anything about that can I.
Meanwhile I can optimize my pennies.
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>>164600040
>in the region
No you said JITA, your other tools said JITA

You said nothing but IN JITA

EVE-praisal doesn't look at just JITA, it looks at the forge, you mentioned NOTHING about the region
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>>164600145
You flat out don't get it. Just stop and put a bullet in your head please.
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>>164600040
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>>164600191
>yea this tool said jita
>this other tool was just for jita
>why doesn't eve-praisal do jita?
maybe because its not just jita, you're fucking retarded. Jita is not a region, the FORGE is a region. EVE-praisal takes into account for citadels, the other apps probably don't
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>>164600087
>>164600087
What if I want to write the guides? What if jews are writing the guides so we'll buy their stuff?
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>>164600662
what
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>>164600326
I think anon is expressing himself wrong an when he says Jita he means he is checking all orders visible from Jita.
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>>164600662
>Hey guys, how does electrical engineering work?
>Read a textbook about it.
>But what if I want to write the textbooks? What if liars are writing the textbooks so we'll believe their lies?
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>>164600326
Once more, you fucking imbecile. This time you'll understand the problem I'm sure.

I have capacitor consoles. And a whole lot of other shit, but let's just stick to the consoles for now.

I want to know what I can get for them right now. Ideally in Jita or near it, not in some bumfuck nullsec where some clown buys 10 of them.

Pic related is what the situation looks like in Jita for capacitor console right now.

Both eve-central and eve-marketdata show the correct values and can be trusted.

Evepraisal does not, as you can see here: http://evepraisal.com/e/14669070

Evepraisal is not just "a bit off", they completely missed it. 1.67m is NOWHERE near 764k.

Evepraisal is therefore trash and irrelevant, as are you. Get it?
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>>164601524
>1.67m is NOWHERE near 764k.
Are you a retard whose looking at total price value instead of individual price value?
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>>164601796
>quantity 1
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>>164601796
>total value of 1 capacitor console

learn to read
I'm tired of your idiocy
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>>164601796
click the fucking link.

In EvEpraisal it's telling him the highest single buy for one (1) Console is 1.6m
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>>164601524
Sounds like someone manipulated the price of that particular piece of relic info and the api hasn't let it go yet so it did some random average.

It must have picked up one buyorder that DID clear for 1.6m otherwise it'd never pull it from the API
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Found https://market.fuzzwork.co.uk/appraisal/ which seems to work fine
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>>164601520
What I meant is that I don't want a guide that tells me what meme turret I should be using. I want to be able to calculate turret tracking for myself so I can make my own fits instead of placing my money on (tried and tested, in some occasions) fits where I don't know what kind of results I'll get.

I just wanna know if 235 "turret tracking" means I can hit a dude that's travelling at 0.25 rad/s, it's not rocket science.
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>>164602352
Why not just use EFT or pyfa and check what tracking you get
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>>164602352
The guides break down the tracking formula you fucking mongoloid, they don't go "Fit Tachyons for best tracking :^)"
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How much dps should I be hitting in my vexor before I blow half my wallet in a VNI ?
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>>164602535
A vexor can easily do 700 when fit for it. That means equipping guns, using a shield tank so you can max your lows with DPS mods
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>>164602535
what are we talking about exactly, nooby pve?
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>>164602879
Belt ratting and the occasional citadel bash
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>>164603178
Also anomaly farming. Currently takes forever to kill an NPC bb
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>>164602352
fucking christ. it is rocket science, because 0.25rad/s isn't enough information to know if you can hit something. it's a meaningless stat on its own. every target has a sig radius, and every turret has a sig resolution. read a fucking guide you aspie, and it's not like there's 100 different guns you can fit, just use the ones you have bonuses for
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>>164603178
Drone ships must be pretty good for killing big structures. No ammo to use up.
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>>164603423
Bashing oracle with t1 crystals
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>>164603673
Always use Faction crystals, the damage jump is always worth it and they aren't expensive at all
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>>164603673
Wow Amarr have INFINITE ammo?
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>>164603761
I prefer not being poor and using conflag
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>again with this shitty OP
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>>164603384
I guess I'll look up less shitty guides then.

>>164602460
Huh didn't realize pyfa did that. Thanks.
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>>164599505
Just timed how long it takes. And it actually is ~2 minutes to dock and get back to belt.
Wow, what a scam. Why are mining barges so dreadfully slow.

I'm guessing it *might* be better with warp speed rigs, but even then we're looking at a net gain of ~4% for four times the micromanagement.
Not worth.
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>>164605331
Get a friend with a hauler. Jetcan into his hauler. Never leave belt until its empty.
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>spam jita local promising to give them nothing in return
>people send me isk anyways
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/eog/ is a fucking cuck general. Noone creates new threads so you are all forced to sit in a shit general made by the same autistic faggot for the 3rd thread in a row. Disgusting.
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>>164605825
kevin if you don't like your job then just quit
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>>164605497
Well we're talking about optimization and having him sit here waiting until I dig out enough for him to haul is far from optimal.

Better to have him mine in a venture desu.
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>>164602701
>700dps
Jesus
What's the drone damage like? I'm only hitting 200dps with 3 DDAs, 2 ogres and 3 hobgoblins which is max damage arrangement
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>people are still scared of whs

Literally how? They are safer than highsec if you know how to press V.
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Which areas should I avoid for explo?
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>>164607634
You should probably train some skills considering that that setup does 119 dps with all zeros, and the highest damage drone setup for a vexor is two ogres, two hammerheads and one hobgoblin anyway.
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>>164608276
None.
The only places that are dangerous are inhabited null and lowsec systems.
And I guess HEAVILY inhabited wormholes.

If you see 4+ ships on dscan it might be time to crawl back into the hole.
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>he fell for the thermal drones meme
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>>164608239
People have an irrational fear of the dark, and the lack of local imitates this. They fail to understand the benefits they can gain vs the risks of harder detection. If you know what you're doing they really not very dangerous.

Also rate my pic related bomber shitfit to try to remedy this situation.
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>oh wow I can make some good margins off these things!
>check market a few hours later
>people are undercutting eachother by nearly 1mil isk each time

OH FUCKING BOY I LOVE MARKET PVP JUST .01 ISK EACH OTHER YOU FUCKS
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>>164608672
>crappy logistics that can't support massive industrial operations
>no supers ratting for printing isk
>"b-but, the benefits!"
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>>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
>Yes
That's actually right, because you can't get on the EVE monument anymore.
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>Amarr
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>>164608932
>tfw plexed to get it
>regret is my only companion
They will probably build another monument or something anyway.
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>high sec pvp
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>>164608920
>why do people think wh's are dangerous
>benefits they can gain vs risks of harder detection
>"WAH NO ISK/HR"
I meant benefits of not being seen on local, not moneymaking which is irrelevant to point I was making. Go back to farming for your glorious leader and perhaps learn reading comprehension while you're doing it.
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>>164609078
Who's got no cap now bitches?
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What standings determine broker fees and sales tax? Is it faction or corp or both?

Also what's the minimum that both can be dropped to?
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>>164610237
This is for npc stations only:

Broker fee:
Corp standings, Broker Relations skill.
minimum 0% unless they changed it.

Tales sax:
Accounting skill.
minimum 1% down from 2%.
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00:25:57 Notify Some drones were unable to engage with your target due to being target jammed
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>leave Jita for Amarr because Jita is full of bots and autists
>Amarr is full of literal retards

Fuck this shit
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>>164610758
You can jam drones now? Or could you always do that?
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>>164608920
>no supers in WH
>no isk printing in WH
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>>164608239
Wormholes are comfy
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What's the best way to boost an alt's standings via l4 missions? Do I need the alt to warp to the mission area so I can fleet warp to it on my main? Does the alt need to be in the area to get credit?
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>>164608276
drone regions
99% combat sites and 1% data sites
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>>164611714
jamming is the only ewar that works on drones
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>log in
>shit for skills, decide to mine
>my overview is literally filled with rorquals
>asteroids last a couple of minutes
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>>164613468

Maybe you should mine in highsec like a proper fuccboi
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>>164613210
Needs to be in your fleet and in the same system, just press "share with gang" or something equally stupidly worded like "complete as fleet" when turning the mission in.
The option should be there as long as you're in fleet and there's at least one more fleet person in the system.
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>>164613468
hit the ice belt gayboi
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>>164613565
but I like being perma 57% boosted

>>164613607
maybe after I get a barge
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>>164613370
>webs
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Fugg lads recommend me a corp
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>>164615012
Moot's Last Jihad, mail Saigon Rice Herder for details.
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>>164610584
>>164610237
corp AND faction standing, minimum broker fee is 2%
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>>164615167
Yeah I knew they were messing with it when they bumped up tax from 1 to 1.5%.
Damned CCP doesn't want us to get rich.

Is *at least* the reprocessing fee still reducible to 0%?
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>>164615105
what do they do?
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>>164615407
Everything, it's pretty ebin.
Really though it's whatever you wanna make of it, we help out newbros, do some small fleet stuff, and generally hang out.
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Tengoo
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>>164615407
they excel at dying
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>>164615407

Memes in corp chat. Really nothing else.
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Holy shit I think I found a gold mine guys.
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>>164617953
>Shattered WH

They're all gonna be combat sites. Hope you have a confessor.
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>>164617953
enjoy the gas

shattered holes are gud
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>>164617953
>checking probe scan and screenshotting before you are in a safe spot

Ebin
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>>164618062
Wait they only have combat site?
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>>164618371
C13s do not have pirate data sites, they might have gas though.
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>All-Out
>member count: 8
Can someone recommended an active newb-friendly WH corp?
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>make a modest living selling doctrine ships to BRAVE
>just finished moving in 20b worth of stuff to staging
>get kicked from alliance for calling a cuck a cuck
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>>164618609
So? hang around the region and maintain your sell orders/contracts until its all sold.
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>>164618609
>can't hide your autism

you deserve it for use a stale as fuck meme
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>>164618454
Moot's Last Jihad is active with more members than that, and we endorse whing although don't have a permanent setup in any whs.
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>>164618454
depends on what you want to do and your sp
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>>164618431
Not every shatterred is C13
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>>164619274
>a throwaway joke corp is already better than Pupper and All-Out
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>>164619274
you also have a 16% isk effeciency
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So guys, what VoIP program should the /eog/ corp use? :^)
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>>164620213
A heavy missile one
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>>164601520
seems perfectly reasonable to me
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>>164618062
Is confessor the best T3D shit for PvE?
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>>164620528
Yes
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>>164619807
Thanks for the support bud

>>164619927
What can I say, we have money to burn.
If everyone learns faster and flies better in the long run due to "bad" isk efficieny now, great in my books.
I mean, we could just refuse to PvP, and then I can make an alt for us to blow up, and sit at an infinite isk efficieny if you would rather?
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>>164619987
what the fuck
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who is this fucking sperg and why is he linked in the /v/ channel's motd
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>get 4 relic sites and 1 data site
>a single can in the data site is worth more than the 4 relic sites combined
data sites are memes they said
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>>164621875
Just one of your typical "who needs a personality when I can just spew memes?".
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>>164622002
That can literally only happen if you find a 50 run SAAR BPC or something
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>>164621875
because the /v/ channel is 400% underageb& tumblrite. You won't find anyone over the age of 10 nor anyone who's ever heard of 4chan over there.
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>>164618454
pupper
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>>164622101
>having a personality with just little text
he wrote a small sentence not a book
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>>164622293
t. sapporo
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>>164623335
>a small sentence
there is nothing small about this butthurt tirade
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>>164623586
that's pretty small to actually develop a personallity
you need at least a good 10 pages in a book to do so well
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>>164623586
i'm honestly surprised there's no sign of a buy muh water filters pitch in there as well.
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>>164615407
Post stale memes and die.

It'll be fun, give it a try.
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>>164623586
>>164623335
>>164622101
>>164621875
There's more than one person with that thing in their description so it obviously wasn't an attempt at character building you retarded fucks.
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>>164621875
>>164623586

>No counter for his arguments except to call him 'butthurt'

CCPL shills BTFO.
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>>164624762
>it's the same old and tired bittervet shit we've been seeing since 2007
>b-but THIS TIME it's different!!!
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>>164624762
where are the proofs?
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Why are data sites so fucking worthless compared to relic sites, holy shit.
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>>164624874

>He's just a bittervet
>It's the same thing I have seen loads of times

Then it should be easy to counter, please read his bio and evidence linked and prove that he is wrong.
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>>164624762
EJECT THE POD ANON
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>>164625519
there's this funny thing where people who play the game for a long while get bored with the game, it can happen because of a variety of reasons but often they just burn out because they keep autistically doing the same thing over and over again and never branch out

then instead of just shrugging it off and going "eh I'll just play something else", they have this compulsive need to shitpost in every Eve related community they can access about how bad the game is and how the people playing it should stop having fun
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>>164620323
But the people you're asking are just as likely, if not more so, to also be liars or just have no idea what they're talking about.
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That feel when the TEST excutor CEO got booted off the /v/ channel for bringing up Broski shit on reddit.
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>>164626361
that implies he's blindly listening instead of forming his own opinions from a variety of sources
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>>164625519
>prove his claims wrong

lmao, no you stupid faggot he has to prove his claims are true first.
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Which on of you fags runs this?
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>>164626480
When the game gets boring so you start doing this.
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oneiros
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>>164629752
oneitis
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What EVE race is the most Bajoran one?
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Why is it too late to start playing EVE?
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>>164630064
amarr, obviously.
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What's the MLJ mumble again?
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>>164630207
It isn't, OP is just a shit. In fact it's actually a great time to get started as, since alpha clones just became a thing, you can try it out for free to see if you like it and lots of corporations have programs designed to help new players and/or alphas get their feet wet.
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Do any of you guys actually use skins?
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>>164630483
nice shilling bro
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>>164630352
>bajoran
>amarr
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>>164630638
ofc
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>>164630989
Amarr can practically be called bajoran clones.
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>>164630638
yes.
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>gallente drone specialization iv
>lights, meds , heavies iv
>interfacing iv
What can I train to quickly increase my drone damage, I'm only getting half the dps of what I see online with the same fits
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>>164630638
Gallente has no skins that can be considered half useable , much less decent
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>come back for alpha
>go ratting
>buy plex
>rat even harder
>buy more ratting ships
>plex up my other account
>rat doubly harder while marathoning the twilight zone
who here /singleplayergame/ ?
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Was buying the core starter pack from steam for $5 a good idea?
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>>164633978
I bought both
2 months sub and a plex for the price of 1 plex
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>>164632564
>police comet
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>>164634114
>both
Oh? How much was the premium?
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>>164626480
rip I should have joined something like that then joining a corp that likes leddit

Heh, you can't win 'em all.
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>>164634418
Translated into freedom bucks, 20 dollars
2 months, a plex, some pi stuff, bb skins, 2 accelerators with one being useable because pilot limits, and lots of skills
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>>164634589
Nice have fun. I'm just gonna play for a month before classes start again.
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>>164618454
>8 members
where'd you get this meme from?
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>>164634539
should've joined moot's last roadhog
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>>164635326
Do they have wormhole living?
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>>164635442
They barely live at all
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>>164635442
Yes, members can live wherever they want.
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>>164635461
rip
>>164635506
Well, I'm not gonna play forever, just wanna do wormhole stuff since it's interesting, joined a wormhole corp and I guess it's fine.

I'll see what's up later on
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>>164635310
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>>164635610
>joining a wh corp as a rookie

wew lad enjoy
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>>164635968
it's pretty fun actually.
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>>164618454
there's been some serious restructuring in the alliance, that number is a bit deceiving right now. Apply anyways.
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>>164635779
Alliance restructuring is the reason behind that member count, it'll return to normal soon.
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>decide to get into invention to end my poverty once and for all
>have sell all my favourite Dota2 items to buy PLEX
>train 10 invention alts
>can't figure out how to make a profit
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>>164638074
Send me a plex and I'll tell you what's good money.
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>>164638074
send the plex to nootkin's tengu and she will double it
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>tfw get ganked by a w-space ganker while going to a data site
>he bitches at me later for not having any loot and for using a cheap ship and wasting his time
>tfw can't even die right
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>>164638743
that was very selfish of you, anon
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>>164638743
>wormholers gank me in site
>laugh as I escape my exploding ship
>it drops 90k for all their effort

Take that you fucks, and don't mess with Moots Last Jihad again.
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>about to fall into the mining meme
>see cheap astero on contracts, buy it
>1 hour later, 100m in my cargo bay
fuck mining
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>>164640653
Mining is shit, I only do it when I'm busy working while my drones take care of NPCs.
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sanderling
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>>164640830
>join null Corp
>buy retriever
>my hobgoblins can't kill the rat bbs before my shields go to shit
Fuck
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>>164641364
Use a shield repair and hull repair?
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>>164639705
>go back in shitfit frig with elleet pvp consultant
>kill the cuck in the asteros

MOOTS LAST JIHAD IS GREEN BOYS AND DICKGIRLS
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So, what are the various /vg/ corps? There doesn't seem to be one for this thread listed in the OP, so I'm guessing there are multiple ones floating around.

No /v/ ones, /v/ is a shithole on par with reddit.
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>pirate leaders are often highly intelligent, proven strategic masterminds and defectors
>use ships and ammo types that are the literal worst they could possibly be against the empire they terrorize
uhh ccp??
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>>164641635
Moot's Last Jihad is what you're looking for.
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>>164641364
>join null corp
>join mining fleet
>they take care of the rats while I just jerk off
>if there's a neut they warp the entire squad to the fortizar so I dont even have to bother checking if there's any danger
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>>164641635
autistic sharks
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>>164641467
https://zkillboard.com/kill/58895129/

>be the eleet pee vee pee consultant
>tfw astero drops 50 mil in loot
>all i did was uncloak and laugh
>check his fit
>mfw
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>>164642157
that fit makes me sick
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>>164642157
>they finally get a kill
>it's a shitfit astero
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>>164642431
>>164642617
Ahaha, jokes on you dogposters, I invited him to the corp.
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>>164642617
they got 2 frigate kills a little bit ago
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>>164642834
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What's the best attribute remap for all-round training (ofc no charisma)?
Is it Perception / Intelligence?
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>>164643449
Just take everything from charisma and add it to the rest evenly. But generally unless theres a specific thing you plan on training for a year dont bother with remaps tho
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>>164643449
Yes. Make a plan in evemon if you want to be sure but for me, per+int was best. 2 weeks better than an even spread as suggested here.
>>164643647
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>>164632417
Please respond
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>>164643997
You need lights/mediums/etc to V for t2 drones. Drone specializations don't even affect t1 drones.
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>>164643997
ship skill to 4 if it has a drone damage bonus
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>>164643449
all round training sucks dick
map Int/Mem or Per/Will and max your SP on one skill set then move onto the other
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What is stopping All-Out from being more successful? What plagues it?
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>>164645482
its competent members all moved to oruze
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>>164645606
tfw MLJ is probably better now
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>want to join comfy lowsec PVP corp
>get rejected because my last kill was in 2008
>only corps that would take me are nullbear renters
>forced to join Pandemic Horde to grind kills
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>>164646494
>not joining Moots Last Jihad to farm dank kills
>wanting to become involved in Null buttfuckery
>not wanting easy stratpaps

I will give you all the stratpaps your resume needs senpai, join us instead.
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>>164646494
just fly in spectre fleet you fucking retard
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>>164646494
ok this is pretty wild but hear me out...

Why don't you get kills solo?
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>>164646806
because he's fucking retarded
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>>164624221
I wasn't really trying to say that, I just know what you're like Space.
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>stratpaps
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>>164623586
>try to abuse an obvious exploit in item prices after an expansion launch
>get BTFO by CCP
>all this time later still asshurt

Literally the most pathetic cuck ever born.
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Redpill me on Oruze Cruise
Is it 4chan-friendly?
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>>164647112
>try to abuse an obvious exploit in item prices after an expansion launch
What's this about?
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>>164647426
Considering that to majority of Oruze Cruise consists out of anons I would say yes.
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>>164647560
>Item's recognized price by the game is much much higher than it's real market price because it was just released
>Space decides this is the time to act out his jewish fantasies
>has people with huge bounties fill up mobile tractor units and shit with these vastly overvalued by the game items, blows them up to claim the bounties
>CCP tells him to fuck off because they'd declared this exact type of thing against the rules when the Goons abused something similar before him.
>Space becomes permanently butthurt at CCP because he was just "bounty hunting"
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>tired of being a carebear
>wanting to join nullsec corp for ratting space
>deciding between ph and karma

karma's pretty autistic but they have lots of space and srp. just how bad are goons? are they really universally hated?
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>>164648496
PH can't keep their pve system safe, neutrals all day every day terrorizing ratters and miners
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>>164647706
Thanks, i had forgotten that it was Space that did that and thought it was some more recent thing.
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>>164648576
that doesnt sound good, i was hoping to afk vni rat my way to plex
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>>164648496
>tired of being a carebear
>nullratting
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>>164619807

Shill yourselves harder. Your corp is garbage and you have an incredibly shit approach to it.
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>>164649401
Thank you for your opinion, it has been noted and added to my collection.
I will keep it and repost it when we dethrone Goonswarm.
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>>164648496
this is bait
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As a new player with ~200mil, what should I get? I know I should get the gas harvesting skillbook, but anything else?
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>>164634286
I fly a vexor and plan to fly a hyperion one day
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>>164650003
Depends on what you would like to do.

Join Moots Last Jihad anyway
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>>164651596
I'm in another wormhole corp unfortunately, didn't check /vg/ before looking for a corp ;_;
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>>164651760
ditch them both and join all-out
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>>164651861
Anon please, I had to do so much shit, get slack, tripwire and fucking mumble just to get into a damn corp like applying for a job and I don't like applying for jobs.

Maybe I'll join later on after they train me, but I don't know how they would feel about me leaving their corp knowing where they live.
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>>164651904
which corp is it?
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>>164651760
>>164651904
Your not going to have fun in a wormhole corp if you dont know what your doing, join Moots Last Jihad and we will train you into an eleete pee vee pee pirate

You dont need any slack or tripwire bullshit and you can actually have fun.
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>>164651924
It's a brave newbies related corp. Are they alright? I chose them cause I remember seeing a video explaining something, but I don't know. I turned down another wormhole corp after my application got accepted which had decent amount of people and then I felt bad about it. I don't know what I'm doing anymore ;_;
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>>164652013
Are you ok if I go alpha after 24 days?
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>>164652093
Yes of course alphas are ~cute~
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>>164652170
Uhh, do you guys have a citadel in a wormhole space? What class? Any pulsars?
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>>164652324
We have a crack fleet of PvP ventures and several shitfit frigs wrecks deployed in various wspace systems
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>>164652476
Damn as much as that sounds fun, I don't think I'm eleet enuf for you guys yet. Give me some more, let me feel more comfy with the game and then I'll see what's up.

Also for some reason, as much I search for the corp, it never gives me any results.
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>>164652324
Ahhhh not at the moment, we are kinda doing a bit of everything from exploring to lowsec roams to wormhole hunting to meming in corp chat.
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>>164651904
Don't leave your current corp
All /vg/ wh corps are either dead,dying,or not accepting new members
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>>164652640
This person is a fag. Trust nothing he says.
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>>164652640
>apply to Oruze Cruise and link /eog/
>Denied
>Reason: No Carebears
J U S T
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if you faggots let that autistic piece of shit create a thread again i will become a fucking dogposter
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>>164653008
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>>164652556
As CEO I decided I didn't want to take any shitter, so the ad was not needed.
It also blocks any major reddit influences that may leak in and corrupt the corp from it's purpose, as seen in Pupper and All-out
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>>164653142
Good idea.
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>>164645453
I know it sucks but I'm an impatient bastard and training one set of skills sucks all pleasure from getting my skills up (especially since those are ship skills of ships I don't use, currently on perception / willpower)

>>164643647
>>164643912
Yeah I'm contemplating these two variants, even spread or per/int.
Gotta tiebreak it with evemon.
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>>164653142
What was the "purpose" of pupper and all-out, anon? In what way has reddit corrupted it? Genuinely curious, because I'm still deciding who to join.
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>Do a shit ton of WH mining
>Most of the holes lately have been occupied/camped due to kids being off of school
>Decide to go back to grinding LP and faction standing
>mashing V every now and then while in a 0.6
I guess good habits die hard.
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>mining
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>>164653453
>exploring in wh
>spam dscan
>pop out in null
>nobody on local
>keep spamming dscan
In the same vein.
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>>164653275
The "purpose" of any 4chan corp should be to emulated the community and comradery we have on this website in another medium.
This can be the only core purpose, as otherwise why would you not simply play with randoms?

We choose to play with other people from here because they are generally similair to us, and imo the corps should reflect a similair strategy to 4chan, come as you are, do what you like, and sometimes the maelstrom of different individuals and interests comes together to create something great, or at least entertaining.

The kind of bland efficiency I encountered in Pupper, and although I am not a member I have heard it is present in All-out as well, is far more inkeeping with the helpful and uniformed ideals of Reddit.
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>>164653275
The current purpose of All-Out is to train newbros who are not complete shitters the ways living in w-space as well as doing stuff in there.
Pupper's purpose was originally to be All-Out in k-space, teaching anyone the basics of anything. If there is any reddit corruption involved anywhere, it would be in Pupper since they take anyone. All-Out had/still has a newfag filter in their application questions as well as the question who you're waifu was.
Tl,dr:
If you are not a shitter, don't want reddit faggotry and want to learn how to wormhole join All-Out.
If you don't know anything and don't mind the chance of reddit faggotry join Pupper.

According to some rumors, not leaked opsec I swear, there are plans to fuse All-Out and Pupper since All-Out is still all out of members since the fusion of All-Out and Oruze Cruise, the eleet w-space corp with 4chan roots.
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>>164653453
>happily hacking down a data site
>never stopping the V
>see sister probes
>ignore and keep hacking
>no guns to protect myself
>7mil in cargo
>guy in heron kills me
;_;
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>>164653835
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>>164653765
Know what's worse? There's nobody here too.

>>164653879
It's usually a Stratios sitting in a pirate relic site for hours before popping anybody they see land. So I've been doing the combat sites for blue, but that's always risky since they see a Myrm on dscan and they start looking for it.
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>>164653879
>see sister probes
>ignore and keep hacking
The only one to blame is you.
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>>164653879
>guy in heron
that thing has to lock for ages, you had plenty of time to warp off. But you weren't even aligned to anything, did you anon? Perhaps mining in highsec if more suited for you.
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>>164654578
It was my 3rd day to the game.
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>>164654620
>not being perfect on 3rd day of playing a game
kys
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>>164654697
I'm getting better, no worries. Already made 200mil, but I don't know what to do with it.
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>>164654764
send your money to me and i'll double them
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>>164654764
Sit on it. You'll never know when you'll have to replace something.

EVE is not a game of "Upgrade everything to the latest and greatest" but rather a game of making do with what you have. Unless it's something that outright can't do a task (Taking a T1 frigate into a L4 mission) getting a 1% upgrade for a couple hundred million ISK isn't worth it.
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>>164654764
become a market jew
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Shit, I died on the last military agent mission. I should've known I wasn't good enough for this game when I decided to use Christmas money to buy a couple of months.

I don't even have any shit worth giving away before I quit.
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Train drone navigation
Y/N?
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>>164654903
Thanks, and yeah, I don't know if I should get a stratios or just keep going around in my heron.
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>>164655034
>dying in tutorial mission

I will send you some ISK if you tell me what you goal is right now in the game.

>>164655135
Up to 4.
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>calculating which remap is best for next 4 months training
>end up with relative importance of each attribute as follows
>26.03% -> Perception
>24.21% -> Intelligence
>22.02% -> Memory
>20.11% -> Willpower
>7.63% -> Charisma
>remap from per/wil to per/int
>shaved just a couple hours, not even a day
FUG
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>>164655162
Don't get a Stratios, get a Buzzard. Also get Cloaking to 4, you'll thank me later.

Unless you're an alpha, then both the Buzzard and Stratios will be off limits
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>>164655165
why 4?
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>>164655291
rip I only have omega for 30 days, trying to have fun as much as I can.
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>>164655389
A sub's not that expensive, is it? 39$ for 3 months of game time, vs. getting a new shitty game for 50$ that will last less than six hours.

Even if money's tight, you've made 200m with a Heron already and skills that will probably remain active as an Alpha. I'm sure you'll be able to afford a PLEX.
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>>164655602
Well, I was ratting with a fleet and we split the money, but yeah, I'm trying to level up most of my skills, but I do keep doing relic and data sites if I can. But the thing is, I'll probably stop playing when classes start soon.
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>>164655165
Figure out how to make money and train skills.

I don't need ISK, the most expensive thing I had was a prototype cloaking device and I don't need to replace it because I don't even think I got it to work once. I need to know what the hell I should be doing.
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>tfw some guy in alliance is selling 150 injectors to other people right now

how do people become this rich
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>make 90m, time to head back
>jump gate to the system with my wh back
>flycatcher is 14km from me with 2 drones in range
I FELL FOR THE EXPLOMEME!
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I wish CCP would hurry the fuck up with the ship redesigns
Game looks really amazing, but like 60% of ships don't
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>>164656046
I don't know how to join a corp or what I should be looking for.
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>>164656520
maybe you should just stop flying gallente and minmatar
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>>164656570
>Gallente and Minmatar
>Bad ship designs
You meant Amarr, right?
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>>164656395
>burn in one direction, instantly mwd on and cloak up

Failing that, just try to crash into the gate with mwd on
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>>164656557
Join All-Out.
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>>164656520
>>164656570
>>164656663
>i can't believe those faggots eat that shit, i'm glad i eat the good shit. mine has nuts in it.
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>>164656570
But the osprey also looks like ass
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>>164656395
Did you get caught in a bubble?
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>>164656663
>amarr
>bad designs

The Aeon perhaps, but generally speaking Amarr have the best looking ships easily.
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>>164656712
good shit go౦ԁ sHit thats some goodshit rightthere rightthere if i do ƽaү so my self i say so thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷM HO0OଠOOOOOOଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ Good shit

>>164656780
I've always found the Amarr ships looking samey and ovreall hideous. With the exception being the old Curse/Pilgrim design, they all just look outright awful and I wouldn't want to be caught dead flying one. Though knowing how well they can tank, I'll probably BE dead in one.
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>>164656780
I don't like the armageddon, tormenter, inquisitor omen or arbitrator
Compared to that, only hulls I really dislike from caldari are charon and >asymmetrical meme osprey
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>>164656751
I don't know why they don't call it the Turkey.
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>>164656967
It's nice that people have different tastes I guess.

I find many Amarr ships to be absolutely great visually. The Arbitrator line, the Omen line, the Abaddon, all the destroyers, pretty much all frigs, especially ceptors. The Prophecy looks great, the Oracle is cool.
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>>164657015
>Hating asymmetry
I wish CCP would stop listening to your kind, they've ruined some of my favourite ships with their redesigns.
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Question because I'm retarded.

Why do ships like titans have +10 warp core strength?
Isn't the only thing that can keep a titan from warping a bubble (infinite points?) and a hic with script or bubble anyway?

Someone explain, I thought normal warp disruptors and scramblers don't work on (super?)caps?
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>>164657230
Good.
Old blackbird and moa looked like shit ass
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>>164657292
That changed when they made supercapitals no longer immune to EWAR. So you can now Jam and paint them to your heart's content, and in order to hold one in place you need 10 (11?) points on the ship. This is helped with recent heavy points being +3, but battleship/capital sized.
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>>164657437
Oh so even a frig can now scram and warp disrupt titans and super carriers?

I see, thanks
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>>164657471
They can, but you need a lot of them. Battleships with heavy scrams are a somewhat viable option for tackling supercapitals now because tech 2s have 6 scram strength and faction ones have 8.
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>>164657230
But asymmetrical ships aren't aerodynamic. :^)
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>>164657640
>6 and 8 scram strength
Unless you're implying two points on a ship, you mean 3 and 4, right?
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>>164648496
Goons are "a ok" if you can set filter to bullshit and don't join karmafleet.
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>>164658004
What's wrong with Karmafleet?
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>>164658090
It's the worst from reddit + brainwashed goons
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>>164657942
A t2 heavy scram has 6, faction has 8.
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>>164658140
Meh, they recruit on reddit but that's pretty much it.

Due to how Goon works with SIGs and alliance wide pings there's not much difference really.
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>>164658152
Well I'll be, I only thought they came in longpoint flavor. I stand corrected.
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>>164658174
If you think recruiting from reddit is ok, then you don't belong here.
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>>164658234
You act as if you can avoid Reddit in the game. It's everywhere.

Besides, what has this garbage general ever produced? Nothing worth talking about.
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>tfw you fuck up your gank but they left 200m of drones behind
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>>164596448
>lets use long distance drones
>and the ruin the strategy by being really close to the target
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>long distance drones
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>goons
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>>164658292
Didn't they try to start some dumbass corp called Moots last jihad or some stupid shit like that?

/vg/tier corp is Pandemic Horde. Helpful, PVP, free ships and skill books, massive amounts of retards. I don't regret it.
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>>164656687
>having a cloak
>mwd with 2 points of disruption
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>>164659131
>this ammount of counter shilling
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>>164656752
anti-warp drones, I didn't even know that existed.
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>>164659134
If you don't have a cloak you're an idiot
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>joining big meme alliances
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>>164659134
>mwd with 2 points of disruption
wot
>>164659214
wot
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>>164659215
(You)
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>>164659214
They don't.
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>>164659214
>anti warp drones
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>>164659289
Then what's this?
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=22574
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>>164659357
An item that isn't in the game.
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>>164659357
>Not Published
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>>164659131
Good Goyim, more stratpaps for you, never mind the coming war, you can rat alone to your heart's content, you're safe.
Now tell those Highsec and Lowsec robots how good we are, yes, yes, you are a good player now.
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>>164659416
>>164659443
Then how come there was no bubble in sight yet trying to warp said I was scrambled?
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>>164659502
>>164659443
>>164659416
>>164659328
>>164659289
Found it
wiki.eveuniversity.org/Interdiction_101#Warp_Disrupt_Probes
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>faggot thinks warp bubble icon on overview is a drone
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>>164658004
what goon corps accepts alphas other than karma?
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>>164659502
He had a disruptor? Putting aside that warp scrambling drones aren't a thing a flycacther doesn't even have a drone bay.
>>164659586
That's a bubble.
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>>164659609
dscan said probe, not bubble. probe and drone are totally the same thing.
>being this butthurt that someone is calling out the explomeme
kek
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>>164659625
Dunno how many corps there are in goons. Try Ascendance, but living in null as alpha is pretty shit desu.
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>>164659661
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>>164659456
Well, Pandemic Horde isn't as white knight as TEST/Brave and isn't as stupid as Goons.

It's an easy corp to join and you get a lot of help and freebies, they have a nice PvE pocket and make loads of ISK. They also don't give a shit about voice chat.

Or join Brave or whatever. Not as many dank memes though.
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>horde
>not as stupid as goon
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Stop joining null corps.
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>>164659586
>this is the average intelligence of someone in this general
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>>164659661
Bubble is slang for AOE warp disruption because the effect looks like a bubble.
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>>164660053
>Stop joining corps where all the fun is and is safer than lowsec and where you make the most ISK and most of the content is

Sure kid.
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>>164660237
>null ratting
>>>>content

Wew
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>>164660159
He's just new.
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>>164660318
Yet he already acts as if anything he says proves exploration is bad.

This is why this general is trash. Too many people posting who don't know anything yet act like they do.
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Can I get scanned while cloaked?
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>>164660426
No
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Can I get cloaked while scanned?
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>>164660618
Yes
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>tfw bullying miners in order to get good deals for the new corp srp

SELL ME YOUR FUCKING MINERALS OR THE VENTURE GETS IT
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>>164659969
>they have a nice PvE pocket
I call bullshit on this, what kind of PvE pocket can house 10k+ players?
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>>164655034
i finished training missiles, it was stupid easy with them
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>log in
>only got one hour to spare
>go highsec explo because memes and least effort also more isk and less drowsiness than mining
>scanning around couple mil here and there mostly from data sites
>ghost site
>19 shattered villard wheels 6 covert research tools
And this is how I made 5 times more money (average isk/hour) doing high sec exploration than by exploring wh/null.
100% sure it was pure luck, but hey.
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>>164660817
Guess you don't know, faggot.
PH isn't just in one place, dumbass.
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Who let the horde recruiters out of their reddit threads. Fuck off
>>
Give me all your ISKs guys. Hillary Trumpette is my character
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>>164660949
Ghost sites are always dank isk if you can get a can or two. Just don't overstay your welcome or overshoot a can
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>>164661203
U mad TESTfag?

Eat shit.
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>>164661693
The fuck u even talking about. Test is blue to ph.
Go back to rebbit you shillfaggot
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>>164655034
Give away your game days I guess? Think you can do that
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>>164655780
>>164655034
Finish the tutorial, join a corp. Spend time there until you learn enough to figure out what you want to do.

For complete newfags, go to pandemic horde, eve uni or all-out/pupper.
Or you can join those guys with the rice herder dude, but I don't think you'll learn much in the process.
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>>164655034
I know that feel. I've been playing for a few weeks and now the game is boring as fuck. I'm regretting getting several months of play time.
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>>164662331
Have you left highsec?
Have you tried more than one playstyle?
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>>164662695
I explored through nullsec and wormholes enough to get a few injectors.

Meanwhile what other fucking playstyle am I supposed to try? Solo mining? lol. Solo frigate pvp? lel
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>>164662749
There is nothing wrong with solo frigate pvp, especially in fw
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FW frigate pvp is actually the end game
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Why is it demanding for me to go into a capsule to jump clone? I don't WANT to be in a fucking capsule.
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Smartbombing battleships are the endgame
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Bullying bears is the endgame
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>>164662331
Yeah same here. Glad I only subbed 2 months.
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Suicide ganking empty freighters in high sec for fun just because you can is the endgame
>>
Protip: You would enjoy the game a lot more if you stopped being antisocial and joined a proper good corp/alliance.

Unless you really, really know what you are doing, staying solo and not joining a proper organization is the worst thing you can do and the main reason why people end up quitting early on.
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>>164663352
>lol just be yurself bro xdd
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>>164663352
>really, really know what you are doing
or literally just using your own initiative and google
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Solo PvP in a battleship is the endgame
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>>164663352
>implying I didn't try for the entire three week span of my play
No, fuck you, I'm not writing you a fucking haiku for you to accept me into your corp, and I'm not waiting for 8 hours a day for for more than a week in your chat on the off chance some interviewer gets a brain fart and contacts me.
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>>164663486
Loot's Mast Jihad?
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>>164663457
>tfw warp speed boost never
>tfw more cargo never
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What is the purpose of assault frigates nowadays
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blease respomnd >>164663146
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>>164663146
>>164663864

Because it was coded that way long ago and now everyone's afraid to try and fix it because they don't know how it works.
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>>164663826
There isn't one.
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>>164663909
So basically I trained infomorph psychology for no fucking reason and wasted time and money on installing these clones because my implants are worth more than the chance to teleport. Wow, nice game.
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>mfw trying to hold an industrial corp ransom to make me frigates
>mfw chasing all of their miners out of the belt with my shitfit bumping thorax
>mfw "NO MINING ALLOWED" spammed in chat

This is the end game
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>>164663976
lolwut
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>>164663976
You do realise you don't have to unplug your implants to leave your ship, right?
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>>164663826
To be a slightly better frigate that everyone thinks is complete garbage so you get loads of fights.

Or you can just fly a T3D like the fucking tryhard you are and have everyone run away from you.
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>>164664135
But my implants will be in a fucking capsule in space.
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>>164663976
If you trained infomorph psychology expecting your ship to teleport to another station than yes, you wasted your time.
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>>164664193
Enter a ship after jump cloning, you fucking retard
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>>164664193
>How do I dock?
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>>164664193
You can't jump clone outside of a station, you jump clone to the station you want and your current pod will become a jump clone, implants and all.
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>>164664258
>>164664259
So I keep the capsule? Then what's the fucking point of going into it before jumping?
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What's the best "warp 200km off an enemy, lock it up and alpha it from that range then warp off again" ship
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>>164664193
>>164664339
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>>164664476
Well?
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>>164664339
So your pod isn't stuck in a ship, you might want to use the ship or sell it or whatever.
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>this is the average alpha
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>>164664339
Your implants stay in the first capsule. After you jump clone you end up in a different capsule with different implants, or none if you didn't plug any implants into that jump clone.

You're just ironically retarded, right?
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>>164664653
No, I wasn't in a ship in the first place. A ship didn't come into the equation at all.

>>164664672
The system makes no sense to me and I don't feel bad about not understanding a pointless clusterfuck.
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>>164664839
>jump clones
>pointless clusterfuck.
wewe laddy
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>>164664839
>No, I wasn't in a ship in the first place. A ship didn't come into the equation at all.
Then what are you talking about when you say going into it?
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>>164663352
I find being in corp limits me more when they keep demanding me to be there at x time or taking part in fleet y to defend their POS from wardecs or roamers, having nothing to lose aside from your ship and/or pod is much better.
On the other hand I can actually print retarded amount of isk with wh corp.
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>>164664839
>The system makes no sense to me
Implants stay in the clones they are in, you're just transferring your consciousness between clones.
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>>164664971
You still didn't explain why I had to first go into a ship, then undock the ship, then eject from the shuttle, then dock my capsule, then jump clone, then undock the pod, then fly to my ship, then board my ship, and then dock my ship.

Instead of, you know, not doing all of that pointless bullshit.

>>164665072
I know that now, but I was under the impression that I'd be losing my current clone, since it told me I had to be in a capsule and that was the only explanation for it I could think of.
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>>164664839
>The system makes no sense to me and I don't feel bad about not understanding a pointless clusterfuck.
You are beyond helpless please biomass immediately
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>>164665030
Sure, exceptions do exist and while freedom is nice it's probably not what a noob needs. They benefit a lot from having a lot of people around them to teach them the ropes. To actually go out on fleets, or to join others and learn how to be a pro jew when mining, or be shown life in WH or w/e.

There are a lot of things to do in Eve it's just that many new players won't ever find out because the lack of direction and the "so.. what now?" and lack of knowledge will make them quit before they ever reach that point where they "understand" the game
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>>164664839
Think of implants as modules for your clone/capsule. Jump clones install an entirely separate clone or capsule that you jump into. Just like when you change from one ship into another and it has different modules fitted, changing from one clone to another gets you different implants.

If you have one clone with implants and don't want to risk losing them, it's helpful to keep an empty clone that you change into whenever doing something that might kill you (ie. PvP).

>>164665138
>first go into a ship, then undock the ship, then eject from the shuttle, then dock my capsule, then jump clone, then undock the pod, then fly to my ship, then board my ship, and then dock my ship.
Anon, dock in a station with your ship, then right-click the ship and click on "Leave Ship".
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>Thread
I know EVE has a steep learning curve, but is common reading comprehension just completely gone nowadays? Do people need a 24/7 hand-holding tutorial that is present in 90% of AAA games nowadays?
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>>164665138
>since it told me I had to be in a capsule
All that means is that you need to leave your ship before you can jump.
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>>164665138
>You still didn't explain why I had to first go into a ship, then undock the ship, then eject from the shuttle, then dock my capsule, then jump clone, then undock the pod, then fly to my ship, then board my ship, and then dock my ship.
The answer is you didn't, right click on your ship and then select leave ship.
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Who meme here
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>>164665352
>one high grade
>three mid grade
>one basic
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>>164665313
>common reading comprehension just completely gone nowadays?
yeah apparently

if you cant read properly I'm not sure how you expect to play eve properly
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>>164665352
>Halo
Are you an angel? :3c
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>>164665448
I mean it's not like there's forums like this where someone can ask a question, help channels where they can ask in-game, or even wikis that break things down with step by step instructions and pictures.

But no, people have to leap to conclusions because the game doesn't have an "I win" button and they have to actually think.

>>164665352
>Halos
I bet you also huff X-Instinct 24/7 fatass.
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>>164663909
Eventually legacy code is going to be a huge problem right?
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>>164665579
It has been for years now. Pos code for example.
>>
Why don't they just remake Eve in a new engine with new code and make it look like Star Citizen but better
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>>164665579
I'm just going to assume you're a newfag.
"eventually" means "for years now".
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>>164663909
>ship stats
>legacy code
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Final update for today on the /eog/ corp, Moot's Last Jihad.

I have brokered a deal with some ex-code friends and we may be getting to dip our toes in some piracy to pad out our killboard.

We will be holding a medium sized industrial corp hostage until they pay us 100 mil or a supply of T1 Frigates for the SRP.

There are lots of shiny exhumers and such floating around either afk or botting, so we should have some fun.

If this sounds interesting, or at the very least tear generating, tag along and join in. There is still lots of room.
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>Implying not being able to JC from within a ship is 'legacy code'

Honestly I think the big reason why you have to be in a pod to Jump Clone is because they don't want to have accidents of moving ships from station to station. Like it would be bad for the economy if everybody could jump a freighter full of goods from deep nullsec into Jita, or the other way around.

Everybody has a pod. It just makes moving from one spot to another cleaner and easier, just changing some flags around for implants. It took them years to have this work without pausing training, and that was an accomplishment.
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>>164666179
top kek
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>>164666179
holy fuck you people are stupid as fuck.

just join spectre fleets if you want to pad your kb
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>>164666187
It's definitely legacy code. Used to be you couldn't even JC while your skill queue was active. You had to stop it, jump clone, wait until session timer ends, and then remember to reactivate it every single time.

They finally got around to automating this process a year or two back.
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>>164666380
>shilling spectre fleets this hard

Come on anon, all I want is some green and isk efficiency. This ensures either that, or an SRP programs.
I don't need no spectre fleet.
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>>164666578
>image.jpg
>autistic mobileposter
>srp for t1 frigs
>le green kb stats xdd
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>>164666728
I've shitposted as hard as possible, what more do you want from me?
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>>164666179
>100m
wow, high rollers
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>>164666578
No you're just gonna get blueballed. You aren't gonna hold anyone hostage they're just gonna change corps or not undock
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>>164666404
>Automating this process a year or two back
I thought that this changed with Ascension, and the new skill menu.
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>>164666179
I literally can't join you because I can't find you.
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>>164666794
I already spent the last 2 hours pre-emptively minerbumping them. I'm in too deep to stop now.

>>164666848
If they shutdown the corp it is a violation of the EULA by abusing mechanics.
And they will make far more than 100 mil a week, so hopefully I dec them and they pay straight up, instead of letting Moot's Last Jihad rob them blind in lost income.

>>164666895
Mail Saigon Rice Herder, we're too elite to be listed.
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>If they shutdown the corp it is a violation of the EULA by abusing mechanics
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>>164667204
If they drop corp and then reform that is.

If they don't reform, great, Moot's Last Jihad will have killed it's first corp.
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>>164667489
It isn't. It's as much abuse as bumping.
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>>164666179
>code
>100mil
>mlj
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>>164667564
I asked a GM in rookie help on an alt literally 15 minutes ago.
If the same members all drop or shutdown a wardecced corp to start a similair one in a short timespan, it's abuse.
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>>164666179
Why not just go evict random wormhole corps? Afraid they might shoot back?
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>being paid 100m to wardec some nooby miner high sec corp and camp them for a few weeks
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>>164667729
mlj only has 5 members and all they can pilot are ventures
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>>164667805
>le dies to procurer drones face.png
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>>164667691
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>>164667729
carebear detected

>>164667791
Hopefully we don't even camp them.
There are a literal shitload of free mercs, ex-code corp is doing it for next to nothing, it will just be whoever wants to get on the kill mails and enjoy a week of sitting in someone elses space hurling insults over local.
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>>164667065
>If they shutdown the corp it is a violation of the EULA by abusing mechanics.
No its fucking not

It's not against the EULA to avoid a warden by switching to a holder corp
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>mlj turns out to be literal pupper2 with teaching faggots meme manneurism
>>
>Citadels and Engineering Complexes can no longer be anchored within 1000km of a deployed Encounter Surveillance System.
>Personal Deployables now enforce the same anchoring range restrictions from Citadels and Engineering Complexes as they do from Stations and Stargates.
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>>164668401
Thank fuck
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>>164668401
>using deployables
lmao nerd
>>
>>164668484
You used to be able to trigger an ESS from within a Citadel.
>>
>https://zkillboard.com/related/31002545/201701051700/
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>>164668025
I'm a carebear for wanting a challenge instead of just murdering highsec babies?
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>>164668048
https://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1489916

>>164668121
What meme manneurisms are involved in teaching a corp full of people what highsec extortion looks like?
It is still up to the members, I have just rolled the red carpet and got it all set up to see what they think.

If you don't like the way it's going, maybe you should join in and have your say? :^)
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>>164668678
You're a carebear for implying that I should ignore free isk because it is in the hands of Highsec players.
>>
how do i get into eve?
i have a character with 11mln skill points and i have no idea what to do.

I feel like everything needs so much effort to be competetive its not worth to do.

I have drones maxed and i have some skills for logistic ships

i mostly fly in vexor navy but since i got kicked out of my null sec corp for inactivity i lost all the spots for farming.

what do?
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>>164668689
No one has been banned for dropping Corp to another Corp to avoid a wardec you dumb shit

You didn't even cite any thing recent you didn't even read the thread
>They have said repeatedly on the forums that it is not an exploit or bannable offense.
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>>164668883
>i got kicked out of my null sec corp for inactivity
Then apply for another. It's not like you can only be in that one corp. Just pack your shit and move on.
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>>164668689
>They have said repeatedly on the forums that it is not an exploit or bannable offense
Eat shit

>>164668854
>le free isk
>>
>>164668854
There's way more isk to be made by murdering jspace babies instead though. Those retards bling out their snakes and tengus all the time.
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>>164669095
>Give me all your blue or I blap your rattle

Though considering how much tank those things need to have, good luck ganking it.
>>
>>164668689
>"Thank you for the information. unfortunately there is little we can do in this case as joining and leaving a corporation is not considered an exploit. Even if it is done to avoid wars. Players are free to come and go as they please and if they do not wise to fight they can leave the corporation.
Best regards,
GM Ocelot
The EVE Online Customer Support Team"

You are fucking retarded
>>
>>164669008
>>164669008
i dont know how to find a good corp :( i wish i could come back to my last copr but im too ashamed to ask them again
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>>164669228
Are you in nullsec and docked? See what offices are there and start knocking.
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>>164668941
>>164669083
>one post in thread by random guy #117
>"well, that's settled, absolutely no grey area here"

Ebin, I like how there was a definitive answer from the mod at the end too.

>>164669095
They hold onto their isk more tightly than this corp will. I guarantee it.
They have settled every wardec that has come their way. Within the first 5 days.
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>2 nestors ratting in shattered hole right next to us
>it's bait right?
>gotta be bait
>Sure to be bait

Turns out they were just retarded beyond belief.
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>>164669174
More like
>give me all your blue or I blap your rattle and check the timers on all your pocos and cit and/or ec

Also, bashing cits in jspace can be very lucrative. Especially if it belongs to a corp that used to be very active and you can get all that afk loot.
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>>164669184
That is what I said >>164667691
Leaving/joining at random is fine, but if the whole corp leaves and reopens under another name CCP gets salty.
As this then negates their entire warded system.

As in the thread I linked, the guy wasn't leaving/joining at random, he was using the leave and join mechanics to give himself an advantage.
As soon as that mechanical abuse for self gain can be proved over simply joining and leaving a corp at random, it's time for salt.
>>
>le hisec salt xd
Just admit you are a hisec shitter
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>>164669675
I thought citadels don't drop loot, but just shove it into safety for them to claim in highsec later.

Though if it's true, then there might be some fun to have with some holes being just abandonded with multiple citadels in them. There's a ton of POS's that I wish I could unanchor, but mechanics just aren't there yet.
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>>164669228
Why not just.. be active and participate in some fleets?
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>>164669925
No asset safety in jspace. It all just yardsales.
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>>164669776
>but if the whole corp leaves and reopens under another name CCP gets salty.
No they don't, they don't give a fuck, avoiding wardec is not an exploit in anyway

You have no sources but your made up story

You're fucking retarded
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>>164670004
i found it overwhelming to fit my ship for pvp.
got 2 different fits and been told they arent good enoough

also lack of time due to real life events.

but i really wish to git gud at eve and participate
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fuck I need money so much money I really need injectors can't do shit with my 6m SP
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>>164670316
i cant do shit with my 11 mil sp
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>>164670316
6mil SP means you get to fly frigates. Join a corp and go around being suicide tackle, it's one of the few things you're good for.

Or join a wormhole corp and be the scout, wormhole corps ALWAYS need more scouts.
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>>164670316
pls send your money to me first i only have 3m sp
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I've been playing for about a week and a half now and am about to get into a mining barge for maximum steady money, but am already kinda sick of it. Mining is nice when you just want to relax, but I want to DO stuff.

I have only extremely basic skills trained, some gunnery thingy, targeting. Really basic stuff. What should I focus on next? I was thinking about PVP, but my boyfriend took me on a roam in low sec for like an hour and nothing happened.

I'm vaguely thinking exploration, and wormholes sound really nice and interesting and fun. I like the idea of exploring and stuff to get rich quick, and a few people from here recommended to me that I find a wormhole in low sec and poke at a few data/relic sites there.

If I go down that path, I'm guessing I should train a mix of scanning and try to get a ship able to fit a covert ops cloak or whatever they're called as soon as possible?

Also, what are some good /vg/ wormhole corps? I heard people in the thread say All Out and Oruze Cruise but apparently the former is dead and the latter only takes experienced people.
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>>164670291
Well I don't know who you fly with, but there are plenty of alliances where you can just bring an ewar frig or tackle throwaway frig if you can't fly any of the currently asked for doctrine ships

Basically, you shouldn't be with a group that goes "either you have this proper tengu or you don't get to come at all"
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>>164670465
You type like a redditor so fuck off
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>>164670291
you can't get gud if you sit in station and spin ship/pve/mine whatever. To get good you have to actually go there and explode and learn from experience. Go to low sec and pvp in FW space in frigates. Or join a big alliance and orbit FC while pressing F1 :^)
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>>164670157
>No asset safety in jspace
So if I were to have, say, a large amount of people together and bash a citadel in a C1/C2 with a HS static, the loots could be dank?
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>>164670286
>ignores what I post
>shouts his opinion regardless of what I say or what evidence I attempt to provide on what is a contested topic
>spergs this hard over what was besides the point to begin with

Okay, I see someone is a bit upset. Show me where the highsec pvpers touched you.
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>>164670465
Stale bait. At leat try to be original.
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>>164670570
explain FW to me, i dont know how any part of this game works.
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>>164670563
>type like a redditor
Only subreddit I've ever visited regularly is the healsluts one :^)
>>164670639
m8 I guarantee that is not b8
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>>164670593
That's exactly how it works. Hs/ls statics are ideal, if it's in a higher class hole it would be better to anchor a pos with an sma to store everything. The only problem is the cit timers. Unless you have 24 hour hole control chances are they'll move anything of value out when you're not online.
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>>164670465
you already asked once in these generals what to do, haven't you. If you want to do stuff then GO AND DO STUFF jesus christ.
You can explore just fine without cloak, although it is more comfy with it.
Get a heron or whatever, costs like 2mil, go out to low, you'll make these 2 mil in one can.
you can do so much if you already know someone who is playing, roam in FW space, bait people, even explore together, just don't sit in station and be like "well i'll undock in 2 weeks when i have these skills :^)"
join a corp
there is no good /vg/ corp you can try MLJ tho
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>>164670682
then google you retarded pancake.
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>>164670830
Have a corp, "Wormhole Cleanup Crew". Disposable Alphas to bash structures and get fat loots. Would be better to be able to unanchor shit, since there's tons of abandonded POS towers with guns just sitting around these holes.
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>>164671190
>unanchor other people's shit
I'd be down for it but until something like that is implimented, I'm just happy it all generates a killmail. Just remember to keep in mind what type of hole it is, and always bring logi in case the cit is manned. I've had huge success with bashing vnis because drones don't need cap and the cit will neut everything dry unless you have the magical cap chain to keep the logi going.
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Wow living in WHs actually sounds like fun
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>>164671789
It's actually not fun.
You have to scan down EVERYTHING, your exits to known space change all the time and you have to dscan every 5 seconds
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>>164669489
What's the point of nestors?
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>>164671789
it's not
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>>164671789
It is fun when you find content. Which happens about 2 times per week.
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>>164671861
Nestors are crazy strong. They are like old carriers and basically behave like battleship sized logi.

Lots of tank, lots of armor and a a bonus to remote armor rep amount and range.
On top of that, they have a fleet hold and let your fleet reship, so they act like mobile depots you don't have to anchor and they have low mass so you can move around in wormholes all you want.

A few spider tanking remote rep nestors can just sit there while 5 times more people shoot at them.
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Worm or Garmur for most OP ship in the game?
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>>164672534
Gold Magnate
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>>164672534
Cerberus. Easily cerberus.
Fuck cerberus, they are gay.
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Who is Vily and what makes him important?
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>>164672672
>cerbs
>damge application of a wet noddle
>OP
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>>164672714
I have never heard if this person.
He is probably not important.
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>>164672798
wat
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>>164672810
Seems to be a big name in TEST and he is leaving now or some shit
idk
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>>164672714
Vily is one of the TEST FC's. But as >>164672810 said, they're not important.
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>>164672534
orthrus and gila are similarly fucked up
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>>164672798
>applies perfectly to everything
>instantly removes any and all tackle
>has tank
>has range
>has lock range
>aligns decently
When we're out doing nullfaggotry, we'll fight blobs up until the cerberuses show up. Then we fuck off and go home because it's over.

The other rapid cancer ships can be ewared or blown up easily enough, but damping cerbs needs multiple damps because they have lock range, so the nullfags don't need to many to shut down any small gang comp.

Unless they fit hams or something in which case we laugh and slaughter them.
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>>164673098
Cerberus are good now? Haven't played in a million years
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>>164673098
>applies perfectly
not with heavies they aren't

>instantly removes any and all tackles
lmao no

>has tank
nope

>has range
>has lock range
useless when it can't apply damage

>aligns decently
only good for running away
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>>164673098
you forgot

>has perma mwd hac aids

ccp pls remove that shit, they don't need special capacitor
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>>164673027
Gilas aren't very fast and their range is decent, but not exactly special. It takes a while for their drones to reach anything. Their lock range also isn't particularly noteworthy.
Similar goes for orthrus, and caracals aren't very durable.
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>>164670597
>ignores a blatantly false statement that has no evidence of it what so ever
>links a dumb anecdote from 6 years ago
>multiple links to evidence contradictory to his statements

You're fucking retarded
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>>164673287
their speed is average, not any kind of weakness
their range is exceptional considering they do blaster dps and have bullshit application
they're also retard-proof on tanking
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>>164673251
>>has tank
>nope
65k tank with two large shield extenders, an adaptive, em ward amp, and two extender rigs

Thats really good for tank
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>>164673251
>>applies perfectly
>not with heavies they aren't
>lmao no
>has tank
I'm not referring to nonviable fits. All shitfit ships are the same - garbage and not useable in an argument.

>useless when it can't apply damage
Except it can unless you don't put RLML on it, which either means you're out hunting battleships or you're talking about a shitfit.

>only good for running away
Yes, it's good at one thing a ship needs to be very good at, good job at recognizing that.

>>164673448
>their speed is average, not any kind of weakness
Average speed is generally bad for nullsec fights that don't involve two blobs sitting still while bubbling eachother.

>their range is exceptional considering they do blaster dps and have bullshit application
Range is important unless you're in the above mentioned situation. If you can't reliably hit to 70, you aren't going to do anything to a kiting comp.
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>>164673668
>65k tank
>sig radius of a battleship
>good
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>>164673251
>not with heavies they aren't
The heavies are used in fleets in conjunction with huginn for tp and webs. With a big fleet of these they're great at nailing shit from 100km
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>>164671789
It's high risk meh reward. New neighbors every day keeps things fresh and most wormhole corps are pretty cool dudes. Plus kspace is a fuckING terrible place.
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>sig radius
>YC118
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>>164673789
that's because you're interpreting average to mean bad

and there's more pvp than nullsec anchor blobs dicking each other from long range. the gila ruins all forms of small gang pvp without the pilot needing to be even awake
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>>164673817
You mean sig of every other shield assault cruiser

Signature is 209m which isn't even the size of a battlecruiser let alone battleship
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>>164673882
>mfw I nearly lost a fight to an imicus purely because of sig radius
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>>164673981
As someone that flies a Sleipnir, 209 is roughly battlecruiser sized. Still incredibly small for the tank it can sport.

>>164674207
>pony
getout.tga
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>>164674207
How the fuck do you nearly lose a battle to an Imicus? It has like 2 guns and 1 drone
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>>164673916
Well yes, but so does, say, a hurricane. Gilas are strong and project well, but two gilas are as dangerous to a gang as six are in that you can dodge all of them with the correct composition and some positioning.

If you plan your gang around 70km range, you can actually be stopped by very few things and cerbs are on the very top of the list. Gilas are just not, they are dangerous to closer range compositions and brawl fleets, which you aren't allowed to bring if the enemy outpowers you.
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>>164674207
>ponyfucker is shit
No surprises here.
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>>164674245
>As someone that flies a Sleipnir, 209 is roughly battlecruiser sized. Still incredibly small for the tank it can sport.
No its fucking not, a ferry has a signature of 439 with a similar shield tank set up. A Drake is 436m

Stop pulling shit out your ass, the cerb has cruiser sized shield tank you mong
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>>164674281
>cerbs are better than gilas
LMAO

https://zkillboard.com/related/30004825/201611032000/
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>>164674281
a hurricane? I don't care about this shit about fleets

a gila probably outdamages and outtanks it anyway. the projection is the issue. I can tracking disrupt a hurricane, get close to it, kite it if it's ACs, whatever. with a gila it just has a 40km no fun cancer zone where you instantly die if you're in a frig or destroyer, and if you're in a cruiser you take like void blaster dps. it's fucking retarded, all the pilot has to do is press approach and engage drones. total fucking cancer. cut its dps by about 40% if you want it to not be a broken piece of shit
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>>164674453
Bruh. Not even in my Halo pod.
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>>164674245
>>164674415
if you two clowns didn't say it's a pony i would never have guessed
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@164674245
@164674415
>getting triggered over collections of pixels

>>164674251
it's worthwhile to test if explorers are in shitfits/inattentive as a sb pilot

If they're stupid, free money, if they actually have drones and some tank then it's in their favour. If he's retarded enough to fit a point to an imicus he'll probably die anyway so there's no issue backing out.
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Reminder that the Guristas Svipul carrier is the best cruiser in the game
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>>164674715
Show me on your merlin where the gila touched you
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>>164674724
I don't mind if you're going to fly a useless trash fit with all your fitting devoted to xlasbs for which you have no resists, but fix your highs holy shit
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>full minnie t2 resists
>no resists
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>>164674925
>I'm flying t2 so I'll just not fit any hardeners

you're retarded. invulns don't become less godmode just because you have base resists
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>>164675030
shut up you stupid ass dual ASB sleps don't net any extra resists
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>>164675030
I prefer having a web
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>I fly Minnie scrap metal trash
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>>164663352
>proper good corp/alliance
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>only shieldships than don't have huge fucking gaping em hole
>trash
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What skill are you currently training, anon?
I have 8 days left on Caldari Frigate V.
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>>164675481
All jumpdrive skills
pls kill me
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>>164675481
about halfway left on covops IV
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>>164674715
Any RLML platform is going to do that. An interceptor with good SP can still outrun much of the damage, especially if you missile disrupt him.
But yes, you can't ram destroyers into the gila unless you're thrasher blobbing.
But this applies to some battlecruisers like the cyclone and myrmidon as well, they can project well while being durable.

I'm not actually sure what you are reffering to though, are you hunting ratters?

>>164675481
28 days left for amarr cattlebruiser 5, then I need command ships up to at least for.
Fuck you maq, I blame you for this.
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>>164675481
Gallente Carrier IV
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>>164675481
infomorph psychology IV
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>Have shit for fitting skills
>Can still be relevant

The only problem with the fit is
>Republic Fleet Gyros

>>164675613
I feel you man. Not sure if I should drop them to focus on Freighter skills or commit to them so I can fly Minmatar Carriers as well.
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>they fell for /dog/ corp meme
>joining CODE.
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>506m/s
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>>164675645
>28 days
jesus christ
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>remap perc/will
>queue up every bs v
>log off

See you guys in a few months.
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>>164675645
unless you're kiting in a frigate, you die instantly. not even the rapids, though they are broken too, the drones. if you try to ab to mitigate damage you typically take even more damage because loldrones. not that it makes much difference, because you'll die in 4 seconds either way

>cyclone

is this bait? the cyclone has 5 medium drones and 6.67 launchers. the gila has 6 launchers and effectively 12 (twelve (12)) medium drones. hurricane is just no big deal, it's a fine ship and has proper battlecruiser damage (9 guns) but its damage is possible to mitigate beyond meme kiting, because it's fairly balanced and manageable

>hunting ratters

just gilas in general. whenever you're out roaming and some fucker undocks a gila on you, chances are he's going to be a total moron with a trash fit, and he will still 100% push your shit in by pressing approach and dropping drones
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>>164676486
You only need min/gal
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>do data site
>2.8m
>do relic site
>63.8m
>do data site
>3.3m
>do relic site
>57m
>do data site
>4.1m

I just can't stop doing the data sites as well cause I think "well WHAT IF there is a faction tower blueprint" or something. I need to stop wasting my time with these.
>>
oneiros
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>>164676579
I keep probing them because they might be a cache or ghost site, and then when it's not, I still warp in and scan the cans because why not
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>web the drone
>drone gone
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>>164676575
No I want them all.
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So how does VNI ratting work nowadays, the rats just target my drones all the time
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What are the names of the dangerous sites again?

Anything with "covert" and anything sleeper, right?
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>>164676579
>>164676685
At least crack and complete the site. Might spawn more relic sites down the line. Though when I do these it's more like

>Data site
>5m
>Relic site
>800k
>Data site
>4m
>Relic site
>1m
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>>164675481
Just finished Plagioclase Processing V, now for Veldspar Processing IV and V.
Then the rest of the ore processing skills, followed by some social standings related stuff before I go to grind some standing with the corps who own stations that are my main ore stockpiles.
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>>164676789
caldari/amarr are useless
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>>164676905
I finish every site I'm in, I'm not an asshole.

Also I do sites in null hence the payouts.
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>>164676561
Interceptors can outrun drones.

If you can't outrun the drones, there's really only one way to deal with it, so I'll tell you the "secret": gilas only have 2 drones and drones have shit sensor strength, so you can jam them out. easily.
The gila itself has much better sensor strength, but will pretty much never take a sensor booster, so the same thing works.
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>>164676942
Bhaalgorns are pretty relevant
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>>164676942
I want a paladin and fuck you.
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>>164676871
covert something sites are ghost sites and randomly explode, make sure you don't confuse them with an anomaly called besieged covert something, which is something else entirely. pretty sure it involves combat

did you mean which sites in wormholes are dangerous? I don't think all sleeper sites have sleeper in the name
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>>164677021
everyone knows all this stuff m8, and none of it makes gilas ok
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>>164676871
Anything that doesn't have a pirate faction name in it has rats.
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>>164677060
I meant in null.
I only do relics and data in a covops, want to avoid anything dangerous.

I did a standard sleeper cache once but got too scared after doing a few cans, chickened out and warped out when some alarm started ringing
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>>164676789
Bhall, scorp, armageddon, rattlesnake are super important.
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>>164677014
I do sites in wormholes, and the relic sites pay out an absolute pittance. Data sites in HS pay more than these.
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>>164677231
that sounds weird desu
c1-3 relic sites (faction/pirate ones) should pay same as null sites
they can be of all factions though
I heard angel and serpentis suck
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>>164677189
I don't know, I don't use gilas and I never have issues with killing them. I guess I just do different things in which they aren't very relevant.

If we brawl, we brawl in BCs, so gilas aren't strong enough and if we kite, we kite with oracle and friends so gilas again don't do anything.
If we're running destroyers, we are either going with long range confessors or coercers + interceptors which don't really care about gilas or we're thrasher blobbing, which again can trade favourably with a gila (but probably not two)
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>>164677368
All of the relic sites pay out dumpster. I've found a few that had all blue salvage, but those cans are BARELY 5m and are rare as fuck.

I've taken to mining Fullerites for profit, since that actually seems to have value.
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>>164674724
>it's battlecruiser size
>lemme compare it to the command ship with the least sig radius then claim a cruiser has battlecruiser sig radius despite it having less than half the sig of an average bc

No you're just grasping at straws for this one
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>>164677216
I know and I love them all but I also love to unironically fly blaster rokhs. Actually I just fucking love all battleships and I want to be able to fly them all.
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>>164677368
>>164677231
The thing with WH pirate relics is that you get all kinds, and most of the pirate factions give shit loot. I've noticed Sansha and Serpentis to drop the best loot (intact armor plates), specifically the crystal quarry sites.
These are also probably the rarest, I mostly see angel and guristas which drop ward consoles or some shit.
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>>164677201
you can read a guide on how to do sleeper caches if you're a babby and hate fun and exploration. you want an astero though, covops will get rekt

if we're talking k-space, then it's just the normal no-combat data relic sites, the covert exploding ghost sites, and sleeper caches
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>>164677603
Don't know what to tell you then. Relic sites pay me very well in both Blood and Sansha null. Very well.

Guristas ones paid well too.
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>>164677609
Command ship is a BC hull. I'm sorry your drake with 4 LSEs has sig of a planet.
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>>164674724
If I removed my shield extenders from the cerb it has 160m sig with the rigs included

Thats not battlecruiser size at all, how big is your sleipnir with shield extenders?
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>>164677831
You're a fucking idiot

>let's compare a ship with one shield rig that increases sig vs an assault cruiser that has 2 shield rigs and 2 shield extenders in the mids

Like i said before if I removed my large shield extender for other things like a shield booster my sig doesn't get bigger than 160m
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>>164677831
Command ships tend to have smaller signs than their t1 counter parts, you chose the smallest command ship to compare the sig against and you're still wrong because shield buffer gives you way more sig and you have 1 fucking rig that jumps your sig vs 4 on the assault cruiser

You're making an apples and oranges comparison
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>>164677540
try solo brawling in a bc or cruiser. I find it hard to talk about this stuff on /eog/, because as soon as I suggest that maybe a gila shouldn't instantly frag all frigates and destroyers I get a load of bads thinking I'm saying any frigate or destroyer should be able to easily kill a gila. I just want some counterplay, some actual game. currently it's just f1 gg your brawler exploded in 2 seconds and all your damage mitigation efforts are pointless
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>i engage gila in a dessie
>omg i died fucking shit game
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>>164678164
All I can say is props to you for going out on your own in slow brawl ships.
I'd never do that because I've had enough of getting blobbed by 60 niggers or having BLOPS dropped on my one frigate.
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>>164678789
I fly fast brawl ships. I'd only be slow if I was shitfitted
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>>164677663
Enhanced ward consoles are worth practically the same as intact armor plates you shitler
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>>164678886
If you're counting on getting into scram range of something, I'm calling it slow, even if you're in a vegabond or nano cyclone or dual rep thorax or whatever.
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>>164678164
>engage gila in a dessie
>omg wow why can't my ship of a lesser class can't win in 1v1
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>>164678970
ok, but that's silly because the only speed advantage kiting meme ships have over it is like 10% from nanos and shit

>>164678657
>>164678985
well memed
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>>164678934
I don't know the prices by heart and I don't know how many each site drops, but I do know the only reliably good sites were crystal quarries and some sansha temple thing. The rest usually gave me 10 mil, with rare spikes of 30.
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>>164678970
>Fly faster than a kiteshit
>Scram it
>Brawl it to death
>"lmao it's still a slow ship"
you're fucking retarded
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>>164678989
>shooting different rocks
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>>164679116
>crossing beams
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>>164679038
It's not the velocity, it's the fact you can burn out of point range and fuck off. If you're scrammed, you don't get to move and you're stuck until you kill the guy.
There's fringe situations like getting pointed and then webbed by the minmatar force recon thing, but you'll generally be able to bail if they try to blob you.

>>164679097
What actually happens:
>fly faster than kiteshit
>kiteshit warps off when it notices because it's not retarded
no u
>>
>nano cyclone
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>>164679116
>shooting rocks
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>>164679416
>What actually happens:
>>fly faster than kiteshit
>>kiteshit warps off when it notices because it's not retarded
>no u
You'd be surprised how bad the average kiter is. Some of them would be slingshotted by a fucking dread.
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>>164666589
balanced legion poster get out
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How do cap boosters look irl? Is it some energy drink?
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>>164679785
In theory, I know this is true, but I never seem to run into all these shitters.
I just stopped doing this, learned how to manually pilot and haven't had major issues since.
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>>164679416
I am aware of the differences between kiting and not kiting, just that saying brawling is slow is dumb
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>>164675481
Industry V, going for the mining barges for afk money.
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>>164680390
Fine I'm using the wrong word it's not slow, but you aren't exactly mobile when you start brawling.
You get locked down and then you better hope they don't have hyperspatial buddies or tornadoes nearby because you can't do a thing if they do.
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>>164680614
more like my victim gets locked down

you're right though shit like hics make undocking total suffering why am I still here
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>>164680614
>You get locked down
Nice try but I triple prop fit everything
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>>164680786
>oh, i'm going to go on a solo roam
>jump gate into lowsec
>phobos on gate
>I can see the sebo effect
>astrahus on grid with a tethered vargur
And this is why I don't solo roam anymore.
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>>164680968
Why did CCP allow you to have citadels on grid with gates?
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>>164681348
it's not like being just off grid would make any difference
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>>164681413
It actually would because I would have made it back to the gate if he didn't have time to warp over and web/bump me.
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>>164681641
lolwut, how shit are you
>>
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>>164681728
Are you retarded?
I overheat MWD and get hic pointed instantly, then it takes me time to geto back to the gate, which gives the vargur just enough time to warp to the gate and bump me off, which i can't avoid because I can't move.
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>>164681950
if the vargur is just off grid its less than 5 seconds warp you dumbass
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>>164682046
And that's still a few ticks more, which is enough time to reach the gate.
>>
The real bullshit is a ship being tethered so close to the gate

With POS you didn't have that
>>
>>164682801
do you really think a 1000km warp is significantly shorter than a 100000km warp

you're getting fucked silly by a hic, one of the most obviously broken things in the game, and you're here talking about grids and citadels
>>
Can you use skill injectors remotely like PLEX?
>>
>he doesn't hic point shitters and light cyno for his carrier alt
>>
>>164683157
>tfw you use your infinipoint double web hic to catch a cheeky ass Ibis in a lowsec belt and drop your Nyx on him
>>
>>164682980
Yes.
>>
>tfw not creative enough to come up with names for my ships

whats a good way to generate ship names
>>
>>164683285
If it's an amarr laser ship call it Nebby

only elite players will get this reference
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>>164683285
Watch anime
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>>164682926
>HIC
>broken
>>
>>164683489
I think I just puked a little
>>
>>164683285
Find a punk band name generator. If you have a noctis the only acceptable name is GARBAGE DAY.
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>dscan
>X's shiptype
>>
>dscan
>corp fitting cheap t1 - caracal
>>
>dscan
>some shitty ass emoticons or symbols
>>
>dscan
>卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐
>>
>dscan
>corp's doctrine hurricane
>x50
>>
>dscan
>amarr control tower - naglfar
>>
>dscan
>empty
Surprise, it's a Huginn.
>>
What was that Phorde bridging titan? It had shipname, corpname and everything set so even the most retarded retards knew how to use it.
>they lost it
>>
>>164683489
>siegmund in charge of owning good ships
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>dscan
>RSS PROBES
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>>164683489
>romaji
>>
>dscan
>Hunter - Astero

>dscan
>Killer - Astero

>dscan
>Lonewolf - Astero

^ Every WH system ever
>>
>not baiting with a heron while having a sabre cloaked in the next hole
>>
676/750 reminder to FIX THE FUCKING OP
>>
>not baiting with a bubble while having a barghest on the other side
>>
>>164686026
Fuck off mad shill
>>
>tfw baiting idiots with my rorqual in lowsec while other side of the gate is full of impairors
>>
>>164685743
If you run into them that often, get a bait heron, it can kill many astero fits and is cheap.
>>
>>164686314
Fuck off mad shill
>>
>>164686467
You piqued my attention.
Elaborate.
>>
>>164685743
>asteros actually showing up on dscan
might as well kill them since they have shit skills
>>
>>164687135
[Heron, Heron]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster
J5b Enduring Warp Scrambler

Core Probe Launcher I
75mm Gatling Rail II
75mm Gatling Rail II

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Hobgoblin II x3
Warrior II x4

Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S x834
Javelin S x304
Core Scanner Probe I x16
Navy Cap Booster 50 x27

So, this thing reps a lot and deals good damage. Drop your T1 probes and go to someplace easily visible, like the planet 1 customs office, sun or warp to a hundred off a wormhole.
Or go into a site and orbit a container.

Some gankers like to use stealth bombers and this heron just shits on them really hard. It will also kill asteros that aren't optimally fit, such as the ones with 3 scrams or just the ones used by people who aren't very good at this.

Sometimes, you'll run into a good or pimped astero and die if you don't have backup, though. A friend in an atron or just about anything will 100% secure the kill, though.
I baited a stratios with it today. Make sure to give it a good name like free corp explo or such.
>>
>>164687541
>tfw helios gets a drone but buzzard doesn't

so unfair
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>>164683285
I just use metal songs.
>>
>>164687541
This is great. Screencapping for future use.
Thanks Anon!
>>
>>164688060
use pyfa and copy-paste the fits instead
>>
>>164687952
t. 45yo dad
>>
>>164688060
You can paste it directly into the game or pyfa (get pyfa if you don't have it, it's mandatory).
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>>164688280
>>
>pyfa
>Mandatory
>Not just using osmium or the in-game simulation
>>
>>164688384
the ingame one lacks a lot of info and is harder to read at a glance
>>
>>164688384
>eating shit
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>OSMIUM
>>
>>164688384
Let's be real here, pyfa is far more convenient.
>>
>usign pyfa when EFT exists
>>
>>164683285
>>164683489
>>164683683
>>164687952

Thanks but do you have any other suggestions, I don't really want to be laughed at by my corpies.
>>
>>164688801
EFT doesn't really exist anymore in an official fashion and you have to use some gay unofficial patches.
It's not even better than pyfa anyway.
>>
>>164688873
t. pyfa dev
>>
>>164688801
Pyfa is better
>>
>>164688325
I just manually made it in-game.

Still, a screencap also gives me baiting guidelines (not that I wouldn't know how - bumping into in-site decloaking asteri is a daily occurrence whether I'm actively seeking it or not).
>>
How much isk can I make running 10/10s in a Tengu?
>>
>>164688996
t. eft """"""dev"""""""
>>
>>164689064
10/10 escalations?
>>
>>164688863
lolfag
>>164688873
faggot
>>164689059
it isnt, fag
>>164689064
about zero to nothing, fag
>>
>>164689207
>it isnt, fag
It puts more information in front of you and has an objectively better UI with actual unit labels instead of those gay pictographs EFT uses
>>
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>>164689207
>>
>>164689326
>I'm autistic and can't read anything that isn't raw data
>>
>>164689809
>having to right click on TD's SD's, Guns or anything just to get information like effects, percentage effects, rep amounts or tracking

You're a fucking retard
>>
>getting baited this hard
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>tfw you get kills with your shipfu
>>
>the capacitor is empty
>>
>rep amount
dps tanked is more important
>tracking
>actually giving a fuck about this
>>
>>164690174
This artist is retarded
>lets make thighs and calfs WAY longer than they're supposed to be
>>
>unironically having to wait 1s every time you add/remove a module
>unironically having to wait 5s for search results
>unironically having to navigate a goofy ship tree rather than just typing the ship name in
>>
>>164690263
>anime
>>
>>164690261
>>rep amount
>dps tanked is more important
Those two go hand in hand retard
>Tracking doesn't matter
You're retarded

>>164690272
None of this is true. ships are sorted by race
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>>164690263
>anime
>realistic anatomy
>>
>>164690174
Vindicator is literally the sexiest ship in all of Eve

I cum just looking at it
>>
>>164690392
>Those two go hand in hand retard
>therefore rep amount is important

>You're retarded
>hurr durr tracking number somehow matters, every fight is a accurate simulation that always produces predictable results
>muh paper stats
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>>164690442
I know exactly what you mean.
1726 dps with tracking and web bonus, without pimp and with a grappler along with the web. Good luck getting under those guns or running away, faggot.
>>
>>164690606
>>Those two go hand in hand retard
>>therefore rep amount is important
yea it does. You determine dps tanked from rep amount. Rep amount also allows you to calculate vs alpha which is incredibly important for making sure logi reps land on time or to prevent over sampling.

>tracking doesn't matter
[some gun] misses the target completely
>>
>when you realize caldari is shit
at least I get lots of good boy points (lp) from fw
>>
>>164690757
Caldari isn't shit, you just aren't allowed to use anything other than rapid light cancer and ECM.
>>
>>164690442
megathron and navy mega are prettier

vindicator is pleb tier faggot shit
>>
>>164690867
t. poorfag
>>
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>>164690757
Caldari will become good again. Just not right now.

Also how does that FW work? Just go to a site, chill, and shoot away people that show up? And should I do it with a Salt Factory?
>>
>>164690753
>THOSE TWO GO HAND IN HAND BY I WANT MY REP AMOUNT WAAH WAAAH EVIL EFT I AM A FAGGOT

>he can't load tracking ammo
>he can't manually pilot to minimise transversal
>>
>>164690936
t. farmfag who collects ebin shinies and never does anything with them but blob soloers
>>
>>164690984
Not every gun has "tracking ammo" and the "Tracking ammo" doesn't magically guarantee a hit retard.

>tracking doesn't matter because I said so

you're retarded
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>made a clean bil from selling sisters expanded probe launchers from SoE LP
Thinking of upgrading from my mission raven to a barghest
>>
>>164690972
You go to a place, you shoot some things and you lose a bunch of standings and probably sec status so you better have hauling alts and shit and oh also, you live in lowsec which is the worst part of the game to live in.
>>
>>164690867
>literally same hull
>>164690936
Navy mega cost mroe than a vindi now tho, lol.
>>
>>164691067
Why not a Golem?
>>
New thread came early move out.
>>164691040
>>164691040
>>
>>164690757
>>164690859
holy shit kys caldari have it real easy
>>
>>164690992
>pirate hulls
>shiny
It's 2017. Cheap as fuck.
>>164691067
>mission barghest
Please biomass.

>>164691149
>ccp shills being this desperate to save face of their failed project
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