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Previous thread: >>164492897

So, anything interesting happening in the stream?

STAB

>>164567597
First for turn 113 stunties, how do I into Total War

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Best faction for traditional playthrough in FOTS?
I don't like Aizus starting location

Should I used lore of death or beasts for my bray-shaman? I like that death has a lot of morale debuffs and lord sniping, but beasts can summon fucking manticores, and some of those buffs, whew.

soooooooooo

when is CA giving us some folders/way to organize the mods?

i mean, mod manager is limited

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>went to royal armouries last week
>all my shitty phone pictures came out terrible because every room is dark as fuck

>>164567768
Alright, so next campaign I have a new plan. I'm going to walk out of Silver Road with a 20 stack of basic units and start shitting on the greenskins, hoping that Grimgor doesn't bring his fucking retarded Black Orcs. Going to take Death Pass first, get that sweet sweet gold mine money, then keep shitting on Greenskins while I build up walls and military buildings in Silver Road. Also, building a second army asap and then holding off on a third so I have money to build with.

>>164567816

Depends

The morale debuffs synergize pretty damn well with Beastmemes since a lot of the time you can rush a line and cause mass routs near instantly.

But taken purely on it's own merits Beasts is a better lore, Flock of Doom is one of the best damage spells in the game.

>>164567493

If you get a rebellion spawn a lord and hold out, buy a garrison as first building every time.

Even the basic Dwarf garrison is strong enough to beat of 10 or so weak units.

>>164567816
mp or campaign? Beasts has the better passive in wild heart, plus as you said can summon maticores. Flock of doom is very good at dps for enemy blobs, and Pann's impenetrable pelt is actually a very good spell for giving a temporary ward save to either a hero, or your main line (with the oc version). Death has good aoe debuffs, but its damage potential has been nerfed into oblivion since release

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>>164567597
Rollan!

>>164568043
>>164568005
Campaign. I guess I'll go with beasts, those all sound way too good to pass up.

>>164568026
Not him, but Garrisons are always my second building. First building being a growth building, then when I upgrade the settlement level I go for garrison. If public order is bad enough it's rare I'll have enough time to get a level 1 garrison before rebels start fucking around

>>164567804
Satsuma

>>164568187
If it is a tier 1 settlement get growth, if 2 straight to garrison.

You can get growth the next turn, this is just for rapid expansion of the badlands.

>>164568182
>Shit elves only 2 LL's.

That's what they deserve for being such faggots.

>>164567804
I like Aizu the most, they dont have snipers but they have the best line infantery.

Also all the traditional units have+1 exp and cost -10%

>>164568301
Of course! I'm the anon having trouble with stunties campaign. I always garrison up. The reason I've taken so long to do anything is because I couldn't figure out a way to stay alive while doing early aggression.

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>>164568185
If you get your Bray shaman to a high enough level and have the points, putting him on a chariot can be a good idea, as it allows him to bully enemy infantry especially if you are playing against the dwarfs who have no cav. Thanks to the buffs to chariots, if you micro him well you can get absurd numbers of kills, pic related

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If I win this battle I can clear the sassanids stacks out of antioch, if they are left there they will eventually swarm one of my armies at an inopportune time

>>164567597
>never beat M2TW
>decide to fire it up for a playthrough
>going good until Mongols show up
>steam roll everything because it's on the hardest difficulty
>try it again
>my allies/neighbors always end up too weak and give them way too much headway and fuck me over
>start up again as based Holy Roman Empire
>go full first Reich and conquer the shit out of everything
>excommunicated before turn 50
>give no shits and keep slaughtering my fellow christians to build my empire, pope be damned
>I have to get stronger for the Mongols
>by the time they show up the British Isles, France, and Italy are under my control
>tfw I win

I mean my choices make sense but holy shit was I a tyrant. History would fucking hate me.

also >>>/wsg/1467171

>>164568520
How do you guys get these massive close battles, in my campaigns every battle is a one sided stomp

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>>164567597
>This kills the Chaosposter

>>164568726
Take battles that are disadvantageous to you and try to win them. Easily the best battles in TW.

>>164568759
>Wood Elves are busted right now
Thanks for letting us know.

>>164568324
I'm 99% sure they'll get another LL, all DLC factions (except for maybe WoC) will end up with 3 LL

>fancy a cheeky bit of Medieval 2, maybe download Third Age again
>parents cleared out computer bureau while I was away, M2 and Rome 1 disks nowhere to be seen
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>164568759
>wood elves have gone from scrub filter to scrub magnet
that's pretty sad desu

>>164568912
>still living with parents
you deserve it desu

>>164568912
>disk
I apologise for the spelling, feel free to call me a nonce for the rest of the thread

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>>164568912
>not using cloud storage
>living with parents

>>164568838

But they're not?

Waywatchers certainly aren't.

The only broken unit is Wildwood Rangers because some idiot at CA accidentally typed a wrong number.

The campaign AI is also borked, but that's hardly relevant.

>>164568912
>not just having everything in your bedroom
You're like 'that kid' who had his console in the living room.

>>164567923
>Grimgor bring his black orcs
And no fucks where given. The rest of your army will destroy his because the Orcs dont have any decent app yet and the blackies will break from morale. Grimgor will do some damage but that's it. Dwarf camp be easy for a reason

>>164569014
>>164568973
I'm only back for a year or so between finishing uni and going to Sandhurst
Had been away for three years before July/August last year

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Old Friend when?

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>>164568838
>>164568973
Archaon, you can stop posting anytime.

>>164569156
>Implying it won't be the grudebringer
pls stop

Been thinking about ways to counter the new VC meta, how would nothing but treemen durthu and a life mage fare?

>>164569110
I must think his black orcs are stronger than they are. I watched a single black orc unit and grimgor take out 3 dwarf warrior units and fuck me over. I'm scared of them now.

>>164569252
I'm okay with that as long as he gets some starting position other than Altdorf.

>>164569105
>having a desktop in your bedroom
fob

>>164569394
My desktop is next to my bed, sleep wake up shitpost sleep repeat.

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NIGHT BATTLES YES

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>>164569252
I wonder how they could do him.
Just having him be a generic Empire LL starting in Altdorf would suck.
I guess the best options would either be as a horde style faction or as Border Princes.

>>164569341
>>164569765
>tfw mercenary army gameplay never
I hope we get it in 30 years' war: total war

>>164569836
30 Years War TW would just be Empire but with more pikes involved.

>>164569959
And hopefully reload animations

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>>164569836
>No Grail quest minicampaign for Bretonnia
>No M2TW Kingdoms: Americas with modern TW gunlines and horde mechanics
>No roving Necromancer who can only replenish with raise dead
>No Ogre Kingdoms mercenary army with a special kind of alliance that imitates employment by a faction

>>164569309
Black orcs have no shields, so they die to concentrated firepower, even from quarrellers

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Sassanids are getting btfo left and right

What the fuck.

Just played against VC for the first time as emp and got a heroic victory but it was dumb as shit.

CA hasn't seemed to programme the AI to actually function on some of the more retarded maps they created?

Vamps were attacking me with 2 stacks, the first one sent all their fast units in with absolutely 0 support, so they all died alone.

The rest of the stack just seemingly ran around in circles. I think it was trying to respond to me moving my formation but it didn't take into account that I was shooting the fuck out of it with xbows.

Then the AI just left sent the rest of the army to engage me but left Himmler with 2 units of Outriders chasing him??? Needless to say he died pretty fucking fast.

After that they also sent Vlad in... on his own, completely separate from the rest of the second stack he was with.

I really don't understand. Can the AI not play VC?

I'm hoping it was just the map, because it had a huge hill in the middle so no side could see each other.

That was fucking disappointing though, that was meant to be an epic battle but it was just like the AI surrendered.

Has anyone else had something similar?

>>164570330
Don't play on easy then

>>164570490
Its on very hard.

Difficulty isn't even meant to change battle AI anyway you dipshit.

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Warhammer infuriates me so much

> Stupid chaos, varg and skaeling calling me "asinine mortal" and "your demise is certain" 200 hundred times a day makes me ultra furious
> Retarded chaos, varg shitskins (shitsking in the north? wtf), and sgaylings running around like faggots
> Battle is stupid marauders and faggy dogs in the flanks waiting to fuck my immobile empire formation if my steam tanks are not able to take them out on time they meet my line
> Warhammer lore is so freaking stupid. I bought the game expecting a warhammer 40k but this game is really all about Rome 1 barbarian invasion where stupid nomad people fucks up battles and campaign map where you chase like a faggy asshole 200 turns while they raze and pillage your cities
> There's more: How come varg and sgayling are all jocks with huge thighs and muscles while the normal humans are skinny and weak? Are the women in the north fat spartans that gave birth to huge ass babies? Or they made a pact with chaos so they could be roided up without going to the gym?


I'm winning with the empire while raizing all of these asshole nomad shitskin fags and going to desinstall this piece of shit game full of chasing and retarded corruption everywhere making you camp every ONE turn so you are dont lose your whole stack.

Going to buy shogun 2 and be happy with a decent game.

>>164570753

Are you going to past this boring pasta in every thread?

>>164570215
how did this battle go? every time i fight against armies with reinforcements in attila i can never cut them off from each other and just get swarmed once they've grouped up

>>164570703
I thought the difficulty is for the campaign AI, but once you set it to very hard, it will be tied to the battle AI, as well.

If you don't change the battle difficulty again after you started your campaign (you can only do that anyway), then I'd like to know how this happens...

I never really play vanilla as I always have some kind of AI mods (whether it will be recruitment or campaign/battle AI overhaul), so things always seem to be quite tense.

>>164570167
>M2TW Kingdoms America playing as a spanish horde and with current warscape.

I've got a boner.

>>164567901
went to a museum in spain a while back and took a bunch of pictures but they came out shit because my phone's lense was greasy from something

It is time. The Legacy of the Roman Empire lives or dies in this campaign. Enjoy!

My mod list is below:

1) Climate Tweeks by PMarricks
2) Double Garrisons by Will
3) Roman Paganism Buildings Upgraded by Darktobias266
4) Weaker Towers by Greenpatriot
5) Better AI Recruitment and Army Composition by D.
6) Natural Water Mod by .vhs
7) Legacy Techs Enabled by Darktobias266
8) Defensores Romanum by Avetis
9) Defensores Romanum (reskin only) by Avetis
10 Grand Campaign Avetis Reskin Compillation by Avetis
11) Plumbata darts for Roman infantry by Liebespanzer
12) Fertility +1 by DeliciousCrackers
13) corruption reduction (50%) by Mar45690

>>164571504
>bunch of ez mode mods
cmon man

>>164571217
I was told on here that very hard setting with battle difficulty set to normal was the best setting because all that increasing the battle difficulty does is give the AI free stat boosts, which is pretty artificial.

What campaign/ Battle AI overhaul do you use though? Is it better than vanilla in every way?

>tfw killed 200 stunties with 1 foot of gork
WURRRRRZAG

SNEAKY STABBIN'

>>164571813
I do VH/N.

Back in the older games battle difficulty affected AI but for quite awhile it's been just stats.

>>164570847
I sent my jav cav to go harass his mostly cav army, and initially had my forces facing his small army, but then the reinforcements started coming in from behind me so I re-arranged my forces to face the much larger reinforcing group. By the time his first army's cav reached my initial position I used my noble alani cav to beat them in melee, while my grey hairs focus fired on his crossbow cav. My jav cav also caught and killed some of his medium bow cav and killed his general via skirmish. The enemy's reinforcing cav was caught by my other alani nobles that I hadn't committed, and even though they were outnumbered, I was able to support with my lancers and infantry. Eventually his infantry got into the engagement, but it was all shit tier spears so my inf mopped them up while my large onager lobbed explosive shots into their ranged cav which was blobbed up. Eventually they took enough losses to start routing and that was that. The battle was on one of the maps that is half naval/half land as one of their armies was embarked in the city port nearby, but most of those units were cav and just came in with the other reinforcements

>>164571504
>double garrisons
>corruption reduction
>fetility +1

pathetic

>>164571813
I do the same (VH/N), this is the anon whose post you replied.

I used better recruitment mod, battle mod overhaul (by kam - some numbers), and SFO overhaul mod, so that might be overkill, but I think my battle seems to be quite engaging so far and I have not seen any AI quirks...

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>>164572171
>VH/N
best campaign experience unless you are a shitter, which is ok

>battle mod/SFO
I dont think you need both, SFO includes the other IIRC

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>>164568759
What did you do to win?

My waywatcher ran out of ammo before he could kill them.

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

>>164571859
>tfw want to play Grimgor because he's da one true git
>But fucking Wurrzag man

>>164572523
you guys are playing on different unit sizes

anyone with a white dwarf key? games workshop denmark didnt have any

>>164573279

>games workshop denmark

Really?

The Warhammer shop in Copenhagen?

I got mine there.

>>164573120
Do archers become better on ultra size?

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>>164573421
De havde ingen, kom hele vejen fra Åbenrå

>>164570826

Yes. Because i hate this fucking game and i despise de lore and i despise chaos and nomad tribes. I hate chads and they think they are tough shit

>>164573553

Shiiiiet

Så igen, det gir god nok mening, den bunke de havde da jeg var dig kan næppe have varet de 2 måneder der er gået siden da.

Jeg tog 3

>>164573429
idk, but you are adding a different variable into the test which might be why you got different results

>>164573553
Er der ikke stadig en i Odense?

>>164574108

Nej, ikke en officiel Games Workshop

Dragons Lair i Odense sælger Warhams, men kun officielle GW butiker har koderne.

>>164574108
Nej det er dragons lair

Is there any alternative to Darthmod and IS?

Darthmod is an autistic mess and IS has buggy, unfinished AI

>>164573553
>>164573737
>>164574108
>>164574187
>>164574194
Schleichts euch zurück nach Malmö und lassts euch von ein paar Negern kulturell bereichern

>grand campaign as beastmen
>super cheap shitters infantry with shields
>cheap shitters infantry with shields
>slightly improved infantry with shields for 40% additional upkeep

Jesus fucking christ are any of their units other than Minotaurs actually worth it; I don't have any idea on how to build an army with these guys

>>164574321
Shut up, Merkel

>>164574321

Sorry my good Kraut, I'm afraid I've forgotten all the German I learned in grade-school

I think you might have mistaken us for Swedes, not that a German should be talking down to anyone about being culturally enriched.

>>164574321

the irony of this post

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>don't attack any other nations as England, only go after rebels
>scots are fucking with me with an army right next to york
>think 'fuck it' and lay siege to scotland
>in good favor with the pope and only nation that went on a crusade for him
>instant warning of excommunication
>decide to go along with it and pull back army
>scot precedes to go rape ireland and lay siege to York
>pope is totally fine with scotland raping my people
>if I win initiate a single battle he will excommunicate me from christendom
>meanwhile france, spain, and HRE are in an alliance with some bastard islamic country and the pope is fucking fine with all of it

Is this fucking moron trying to fuck up Europe? Seriously is this Pope Francis's ancestor?

>>164574448
Swarm tactics with fast infantry that needs support from killier things. Not every faction is about just going down the pipe with steel hard infantry, except late game where every faction does that.

So are death stars still a thing?

Empire and wood elves get lore of life now, so could a treeman or steam tank death star be a legit meme strategy?

>>164574260
Radious :^)

>>164574918
>giving a shit about the pope

>>164574951
Tongue Tongue Tongue

What do you guys think about nappy?
I didn't play total war, but i think only shogun 2 is better than napoleon.

I HATE TOTAL WAR WARHAMMER FUCK THIS GAME SHITTY ASSHOLES CHAOS CHADS FUCK YOU

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>>164575307
>CHAOS CHADS FUCK YOU
Did they take your gf, Franz?

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>Empire secessionists ambush me outside of Helmgart.
>Feeling stupid, going to fight it out to try and take as many of them with me as I can.
>Ambush starts, they only have 2 units of spearmen and a lord.
>wut.
>Their garrison and second army are on the other side of the map.
>Initial force is dead before their reinforcements are even on the map.
>Very light losses.
>Gelt's mortar puts in work before the reinforcements even engage.
>They're so tightly clumped that they can't even dodge his searing doom.
>They finally engage after their army is torn up.
>Their flanks get hit by free company, their missiles harrased by outriders.
>Greatswords outright kill 1 general, gives the other one a thrashing.
>3 units of free company kite almost a fourth of their forces.
Filthy dumb secessionist scum.

>>164575140
FOTS is way better than Napoleon.

Napoleon is pretty good, though. I wish Empire could use its non-fucked map of Europe.

You know, it's kind of amazing how fun CA managed to make Beastmen considering they were the absolute worst crap on the tabletop before GW just bombed the setting.

>>164575926
Wood elves needed punching bags.

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I just bought Attila, I've only really played Shogun 2 before this, what have I gotten myself into? I decided to go with Danes to start my campaign. Seems like there is a ton of added features and a pretty big difference in UI and management to get used to.

>>164575908
I'm not a fan of japanese history, and I played shogun 2 only because it was good game.
It bothers me, that noone ever is posting their napoleon games here.

>>164576214
That's because this is now /twg/ as in Total war Warhammer General.

>>164575774
where do you even recruit Free company, i cant find them at all in the tech tree?

>>164576653
Baracks level 1, immediately available.
Do you have the Grim & the Grave?

>>164576013
Most factions right now are wood elf punching bags because of the shitter-patch

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Does managing fightiness late game just become too tedious for anyone else?

Never finished a damn Orc campaign because it gets to the point where it's just the biggest fucking pain in the ass.

>>164576061
It took me maybe like a week to completely adjust to Attila but it was a lot of fun once I did. I prefer a lot of the changes to how they were in older titles.

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Where are you from IRL /twg/?
I am from India

>>164576696
nope

>>164574321
>schreibt Bernd während sein Haus in ein Flüchtlingsheim umgebaut wird

>>164576760
Good to know. It's a little daunting right now, I feel like Shogun was very very simple, and im happy with how much more complexity seems to have been introduced, but adjusting is frustrating.

>>164574918
assassinate him

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>>164576760
Just have some boyz camp out in literally anyone else's territory. Or your own and get free kills on rebels. Or just smack the gitz around till dey stop bein all rowdy-like and get to marchin'.

Fightyness really isn't that big of a downside when it goes wrong, just a few turns of getting the mob back in line which is on of the few things that slows you down anyway.

>>164576839
well then you can't recruit them

>>164576860
Zum Glück bin ich ein Josef und kein Hans, daher ist's bei uns noch nicht ganz so schlimm macht aber kaum einen Unterschied

>>164576797
Austria
>tfw no more Kaiserreich

>>164577568
its alright anon.
The HRE was good while it lasted.

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>>164577568
>Austria

my coalition nigger

>>164567697
There's a mod for vlad

Kholek or Archaon for my campaign start?

>>164577867
Kholek. He will carry your early game so hard.

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>First proper Warhammer campaign, playing as Vampires
>Front army is nothing but zombies and fell bats to raid and raze
>Middle army is my main host of mostly Grave Guards, some monsters lead by Heinrich Himler the Necromancer
>Back army is mostly shitty skeleton soldiers with some Hexwraiths and Cairn Wraiths

I haven't fought any Elvs yet, but those unit stats scare me, hopefully my middle army can get an ambush at 75% with my other armies reinforcing which should hopefully let me auto resolve them away. I don't think reinforcing armies are ever actually much help in an ambush when you take control since they main battle is over by the time they arrive

Am I fucked or are they more of a walkover than I thought?

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>>164576797
Germany
>>164577568
Wann befreit ihr uns endlich vom preußischen Joch?
Jetzt ist der beste Zeitpunkt.
1866 schlimmstes Jahr der Geschichte. ;_;

>>164567850

bump

>>164576908
I bought Attila last February but I only just got into a campaign I really enjoyed about a month ago, took me ages to adjust

>>164567816
Summons don't usually work out so well for me.
Manticores die quickly if they get swamped by even just one unit, but they do have some merit for hitting the enemies back line missile units.

>>164578243
One thing I do not understand is why AI doesn't follow faction mechanics. Any greenskin faction will have fightiness problems as well as WAAGHs. Vampires usually don't bother raising dead in most of my experiences aside from a hilarious shafting involving multiple monsters in empire campaigns. Dwarfs are impossible to placate aside from dumping gold as a non-GS race. These are all fine and well.

But then these bastards come along and promptly ignore that whole amber thing only used to make the player not be an isolationist (which as a WElf campaign should be) and as a handicap.

Good DLC but I don't get that mechanic.

>>164578243

You won't have it easy.

The Treemen and Dragons will especially be a fucking pain since the Vamps have very few good tools for dealing with them.

You can probably do it though.

what do you guys think of radious? at a glance it looks like it affects balance in a negative way by removing any specialization from factions. every single faction has tier 3 everything

>>164578892
best modder by far.

>>164578892
The units isn't the only problem. You also get a shitton of money which makes the game easy as fuck from the start. You didn't need to sack stuff as hordes in Radious Attila because of all the money you got from just camping.

A casual mod basically.

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>>164578892
>what do you guys think of radious?

>>164578892
Besides answering your own question and the fact that everything costs so little nothing matters, he is at least a good meme for the general

>>164578892
It blue screened me, so I don't bother with it. While it was working, Greenskins were pushovers since everything was replaced with goblins.

>>164578892
Post some radious screenshots of his invented units and see the comedy unfold

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>>164576797
Norway

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>>164575720

DONT YOU DARE TALK ABOUT MUH FRANZ

I KILL YOU

How can people complain about Wood Elves when the fucking dwarves are twice as much of a pain in the ass. Literally no bad units, they completely slaughter the greenskins in every campaign ive done and end up taking over the entire eastern/southern side of the map; they shit out multiple doomstacks of overpowered units that wont fucking die. Just had to abandon my VC campaign because they declare war on me and sent three full stacks into my land, one of which had 10 slayers. GG CA

what are some good historical overhauls or unit packs that are COMPLETE?

>>164576760
>fightiness gets too low
>push a button and suffer some casualties to bump it back up
>replenish casualties in one turn
>repeat if necessary
This sounds like people having a problem with quest battles being too far away.

>>164578892

>what do you guys think of radious?

Nice try Radious

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>>164578892
BY CIGMAR NO!

>>164579378
(for attila)

>>164579378
which game

>>164578892
Glade Knights
>Armoured and shielded
>Very fast
>Anti-infantry

>>164576797
Spain

>>164579372
>they completely slaughter the greenskins in every campaign ive done and end up taking over the entire eastern/southern side of the map;

Not in my campaigns. They either get fucked or go into a slowly losing stalemate.

>>164576797
Italy

>>164578765
I'm gunna abuse them with as many of my agents as possible. Luckily I've got a high level Banshee seriously slowing their progress giving me time to prepare

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>>164576797

Danmark

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>>164578892

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>>164576797
the most powerful nation on earth

>>164576061
Danes are the best. Get upgraded axe infantry as soon as possible and pillage the coasts.

Anyone else farm Grung Zint for experience when playing Empire?

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So do you think that the stand-alone-expansion-whatever will come this year?

>>164580261
CA told some polish mag that it will come early next year.

Holy shit fighting Woodelfs as Beastmen is so painful, their archers just fucking destroy me big time.

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>>164580364
Will there be anything this year after Bretonnia then?

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>Gobbo Archers

>>164580667
The Old Friend

>downloading the series about Russo-Japanese war that was posted here earlier
>my only source is a Canadian who limited his upload to 20 KB/s

I know you're here, show some gratitude and uncork your upload rate you dick, I've been supplying you with steady 1 MB/s

>>164580485
Get dogs or harpies. Bye bye elf hp

>>164576797
check my signature

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~ I come from the land down under ~
~ Where women grow and men plunder ~
~ Can't you hear can't you hear the thunder ~
~ You better run, you better take cover ~

/ / What does Queenslanders drink XXXX? Cause they can't spell beer! \ \

##INVESTIGATE EMU WAR CRIMES##

>>164580667
Certainly
They'll probably keep releasing faction DLCs like King&Warlord which add subfactions of existing ones into the game with a new LL and starting location.

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>>164578892
__R
B A S E D
__D
__I
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>>164581042
now I have an urge to shitpost.

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>mfw it's stabby time

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>>164581118
>Empire Lord Wizards
>A wide array of Greenskin heroes and lords
>Mousillon and Middenland are expected
>Karak Azul with Ironbrow

First things I can think of they can do

Will there ever be mods that make Horde factions into real factions but still gives them unique shit?

Am I missing something or is the Chariot for Khazrak a straight downgrade?

>>164581593
Chariots in general are pretty poor, only really useful for so-called formation disruption, which I think is a weak argument in their favour given how little damage physics collisions impart in this engine.

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>>164581495
Probably also Karak Drak since they have a very unique starting position. Sure they're literal whos but so was Ghorst and he's a LL now.

>>164581550
Nobody is masochistic enough to undertake the work of doing a large mod when every patch causes so many unexpected changes.

>>164576797
South Africa

>>164568182
rool

Well that's lame.

Just when I was about to have a epic showdown with the last Skullsmasherz settlement the AI thought it was a good idea to try and escape through Franz's stack with his smallest stack...

Could've been an epic, mostly equal fight but instead the AI has to ruin it.

>>164568182
rolling i want grombrindal

well Fortress Reikland was definitely a good fucking idea.

What can I expect when playing Lakhmids?

>>164581258
>Dismounted Grail Archer Knights (Clone Troops)

RADIOUS
A
D
I
C
A
L

>>164581118
Didn't they say Wood elves would be the last DLC they do?

Also, does anyone think we'll ever get a Rise of the Samurai esque DLC for the War of the Beard, and maybe the founding of the empire after?

>>164581906
How do you do a NorseDorf campaign justice? The fluff is a tale of defacto isolationism due to being cut off from the rest of the civilized world to eek out mere survival against demons, vikings, and demonically-augmented vikings.

If the wood elfs taught anything is that CA cannot pull off an isolationist faction and at this point there isn't much to work off of in Norsca.

Could be a cool challenge campaign to hold out against the initial chaos onslaught of the warp gates entering the world while the literal gods of the dwarfs try to figure shit out but in GC I just don't see it yet.

What's usually better?

>Use expendable infantry that hold the line and that's it and rush monsters/cavalry
or
>Rush high tier infantry that can win the frontal clash at the cost of any cavalry/monsters

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FAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>164582428
last major DLC

>>164582428
War of the Beard + New World would be tight

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>>164582748
roll

>>164576797
I am MURICAN

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1-5 Vlad
6-0 Volkmar

Best mod for Bretonnia overhaul?

>>164582860
hey is this real? lmfao

>>164582518
>no public order penalty from corruption, instead a stack of chaos rebels spawn every single turn with its strength depending on the corruption, beating them provides a temporary buff to corruption removal
>all settlements have walls, have their garrison buildings give upgrades to the walls turrets, massive upgrades like flame cannon turrets
>the ability to close chaos gates opened by chaos razing a settlement, either by paying money or by fighting a small army of chaos spawn
>severe penalties to income from trade
>maybe have a quest that lets you awaken a not chaos norsican tribe so you can help them tame norsica

these are just some ideas, I have no idea what they are like in fluff though so I might be gay. I'd just really love to see them do something that has you playing siege defense after siege defense with crazy defensive abilities like flame cannon turrets or hell I'd just love to see the boiling oil gates back from previous games.

>>164582518
Maybe their victory conditions are to kill all Norscans and Chaos. Probably some Greenskin tribes in the north and maybe CA could add that ruined Dwarf Hold in the Chaos Wastes which you'd need to rebuild and hold as a victory condition.

>>164582518
>If the wood elfs taught anything is that CA cannot pull off an isolationist faction and at this point there isn't much to work off of in Norsca.

What's wrong with wood elves, other than the AI's tendency to blob out into Bretonnia?

>>164582673
depends, orcs greenskins chaos and especially vampire counts I love going expendable because it is really fun to just have massive massive casualties, but with humans/dwarves/elves I feel bad about the deaths and try to always have minimal allied casualties. Although Empire can have some easy battles if you just don't mind losing every single one of your flagellants

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>>164583673
>norsica
NORSCA YOU STUNTED WAZZOCK

>>164583673
>I have no idea what they are like in fluff though so I might be gay.

Fluff on them is pretty much: Isolated from the rest of Karaz Ankor for a long time. Have "a weird dialect and strange customs", and that they're more warlike than their southern cousins.

>>164582518
>If the wood elfs taught anything is that CA cannot pull off an isolationist faction
I sure as hell hope that High Elves work similar to Wood Elves.
Ulthuan having only a few single region provinces but those have 10 building slots and HElfs being able to build outposts everywhere

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>>164583858
but then there would be no I in norsica

>>164583972
FETCH ME MY MIRROR SHIELD

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>>164583972
Go home Sigvald, there's girlcock waiting for you

>>164583932
Also their Slayers are called Berserkers.

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>>164576797
Finland
>Tfw your country will never be featured in a total war game

Are there any factions in Warhammer which don't have any low-tier chaff units?

>>164583751
>>164583958
Isolationists don't build shit everywhere and create some of the biggest geographic empires on the map, albeit outposts. Fucking over neighbors or weak spots for resources to build what little territory you have is one thing. Relying on expansion is what everyone else does. Hordes are the only other playstyle that is at least competent in being "Not an territory empire" faction

>>164584264
Ah, that's right though, the reliance on Amber which you mostly get from conquering is stupid for Wood Elves and doesn't fit them, that's right.
I still hope that High Elves play similarly to Wood Elves on the campaign map

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G O B L I N S

>>164584514
AGAIN WITH THE MEMES! EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY WITH THE MEMES JESUS CHRIST! STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>164578243
After a long stalemate this is happening, should I go for it?

>>164584594
bontus

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>>164584715

When Brettonia's DLC comes out, do you think they'll make Grail Knights less garbage?

>>164584392
Well at least for High Elfs its a little more palatable since they do colonize, and did colonize Bretonnia well before they existed.

Still there needs to be other things to do on the map than paint shit your color.

GS campaign is a nice mix. Spend time knocking the other gitz. Grab some dorf territory. Then start burning down humie shit in a re-enactment of WAAGHs of the past (Gorebad, Grom, Azhag)

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>>164582518
I think the simple fact of surviving is already a challenge.
But I guess their missions should be something along the lines of:
- Hold Kraka Drak
- Kill Varg and Skaelig
- Kill Warriors of Chaos
- Kill Red Eye or Greenskins
- Recover Karak Dum in the Chaos Wastes (added as a ruin with DLC)
- Hold Karak Dum

>>164584650
Kill them!
Raise them!

Anyone give me a hand with Rome II? I'm suddenly unable to open the console, it's really annoying because my game flips out a lot and I have to fix it with the console but it's no longer opening

jk I just want to cheat

Seriously I've tried every button I can think of, looked in all the options menu

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>>164584392
I hope they'll have Dark Elves right at their doorstep all the time so they won't expand much.

>>164584826
Grace's delicious thighs

>>164568182
rollin

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>>164576797
Brazil

>>164583454
The only option was lokerian last I checked, and it's pretty subpar

Prater's Bretonnia was really good, but he stopped updating it

>>164576797
France

>>164582748
roll

Does anyone else try and create epic battles instead of playing the campaign well if they feel they're gonna steamroll too easily?

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>>164568182
I AM THE SUPREME PATRIARCH

LIZARDMEN WHEN

Will Finubar be in the game? Or will we have Tetris brothers + someone (probably Imrik and/or Alarielle and/or Alith Anar).

I could see Alith Anar having his own subfaction, maybe even a horde one.

>>164585540
Apparently early 2018. Asuming the second game includes Lustria.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>164582518
They'll be the Slavs (TW:Attila) of WH:TW. The one faction that has to deal with all the invading crap from turn one.

>>164576797
My bf is Indian

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H....HUMIES

>>164585671
4000 year old MILF pussy

>>164586219
London?

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>>164586352

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>>164584650
Rah get fucked!

>>164575774
You had like the same number of troops wtf are you on about

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>>164586507
hate humies

DARK ELVES WHEN

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>>164586352
kil hums

Hey you're all retards, 90% of the tww fanbase is made up of retards "muh next faction, more units more units more units" shut the fuck up, give us a siege escalation, give us villages, give us more than 3 fucking siege layouts. kyssssssssss retards

>>164586219
Does he put his poo in your loo?

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>>164586659
HATE

>>164586757
kyssssssssss this
>unzips Ghal Maraz

Reminder that if you lose while playing Vampire Counts, you have literally no-one to blame but yourself.

You've consistently been the most busted faction since release, with more tools at your disposal than any other.

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>>164585729
Perhaps, but the map has to get bigger. Norsca in particular has smaller regions. I don't mind the choke points but the whole province of Kraka Drak doesn't have much turf to defend.

Also the game needs to upgrade its siege gameplay and take advantage of Dorf architecture with multiple levels of defense, defense artillery set points, and street/keep defense play.

Kraka Drak could be a great challenge later in the series with the aforementioned improvements, and the addition of demon hordes considering Norsca.

But mosly the siege stuff, fortresses in Warhammer are so massive and ridiculous it needs to be fleshed out. Who wasn't hype as shit when the Thorgrim trailer had the opening canon fire and the bridge pass

>>164586757
This desu

>>164586757
That's a grudgin

>>164586757
Kinda true

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>>164586736
KILL

Are they ever going to change Kemmler so he gets a separate start position in Tilea? And some kind of actual usefulness in gameplay?

I like the Undead, but the actual Vampire Counts are the worst part of them.

>>164571248
>that Genpei vs FotS Army scenario

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>>164587003

>>164587103
>Vlad
>Not one of the best lords

>>164576797
Etruria.

>>164587218

Vlad's fine, but I don't like the Vampires much in general. Mannlet is just the worst of the bunch.

Tomb Kings, Necromancers and Undead Legion are much better.

I've just started playing Rome 2 and I don't have a ton of experience with total war games. So far I really like it but I've noticed there's not a lot of battles in the open. Most battles happen when defending or attacking a city, which is a shame I think.

How do Atilla and Warhammer compare to Rome 2?

>>164587386
Both are way better

>>164586757
>he doesn't auto-resolve sieges in every TW game ever
lol
I bet you're also gay.

Is there ever any reason to use Archaon in multiplayer?

His cost seems simply excessive for what he offers. If he could ride a flying mount, he might be OK.

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>>164587103
He should've been a horde faction over there desu.

Do guns cause extra morale damage in this game like other TW games or is it just for the armour piercing?

>>164587573
Man, 70's warhammer art is the best

>>164587669
In a world of demons, twisted abominations, undead horrors, etc. a loud bang isn't that bad

>>164587386
Getting open field battles are kinda rare but enticing the AI to come out and make them happen can make capturing those cities much easier

Try baiting them out with weaker armies and ambushing their armies.

The AI also seriously underestimates how strong a human fortified army is, so they'll often come out and attack you when you can defend the fort

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>>164579827

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>Start a new campaign as the Empire
>Literally every single Empire Province has the "Imperial distrust" trait

>>164583667
Turns out posting retarded shit that insults people gets people angry, who knew.

>>164587103
Kemmler as an undead horde that has a more western map focus with an endgame focusing on bretonnia would be cool.

Actually starting in Tilea would be a neat place to start if you have a campaign against bretonnia
>go through the dwarfs then the empire and hit bretonnia from the east
>go through the dwarfs then the wood elves to hit them from the south
>take a boat to estalia and try to circle around and hit them from the west but maybe hitting beastmen hard.

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>>164587927
>being an offended leftist

>>164586757
yeah, ok, whatever
sieges have always been shit

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>>164586415
Older, much older.

Aenarion married Morathi in -4461 IC (Imperial Calendar). Karl Franz became the Emperor on 2502 IC, while Storm of Chaos / The End Times (Archaon's invasion to end the world) starts in 2520s.

Morathi is over 7'000 years old.

>>164587950

Two undead hordes in Bretonnia is a bit excessive. That should be Mousillon's endgame.

>>164586768
He wasn't raised in India, so yes

>>164588060
I'm not leftist, I voted for Brexit.

>>164588106
1. That's not a valid excuse
2. I personally liked Attila sieges. I think back in the day we counted 40+ different siege layouts for Attila, here on /twg/

>>164588145
Mousillon is a landed faction though. not a horde.

>>164580364

No, they said their schedule has been pushed back a year. They did not elaborate on whether this schedule was for the sequel's release date or the completion of the trilogy.

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>>164587720
>>164587573
FUCK RATS
FUCK THE LIVING TOO

>>164588259

Yeah, but Bretonnia should still be their endgame.

Kemmler should focus on the Border Princes, Estalia and Tilea.

God knows they need an actual threat to keep them from snowballing into Bretonnia like they do every single game.

>>164588257
My problem with sieges no matter which TW title is that they don't feel grand and epic except for a very few occasions like besieging Rome in Attila.
Every other siege plays 100% exactly the same, I was hoping for Warhammer to change that but it's just a different kind of every time the same...
I just want cool sieges ;_;

This campaign is silly.

I built a wall round Grunburg and VC have tried to siege it like 4 times now with a full stack but because the AI can't handle the Grunsburg map I can just beat them with the Garrison alone pretty much.

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>>164588310
New content?

>>164588890
>AI can't handle the Grunsburg map
What does it look like? I've never fought a single siege defense in Warhammer not because I didn't want to but because it never happened in 460 hours

>>164573659

kys

>>164587846
Is this an actual thing

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>>164587950
You know when you think about it Kemmler really doesn't have any reason to be in with Sylvania anyway. Kind of just shoe-horned in because that is his army book.

He has more in association with the dark gods than the midnight aristocracy

>>164586547
I was saying that the AI can't do ambushes properly, and providing proof. If they had ambushed with the larger of the two stacks, it might have been a bigger clusterfuck, but they jumped a 19 stack with 2 spearmen, and then went on to clump up before running across the map.

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>tfw you want to play grombrindal
>he still hasnt unlocked on steam
life is suffering fellow understanders

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>>164588310
>>164588960

Will Wales ever be independent or will it forever be a bitch to the English?

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>>164588960
Old

>>164589593
Yes

While playing Rome 2 do I litteraly need to leave 20 stack armies in every city to prevent them from being captured? Now that my empire is getting bigger there's no way I can afford an army in every city. But whenever I leave a city someone can just walk up to it and grab it?

>>164582748
r

>>164584650
They will fuck you up, Wood Elfs fuck everything up. Don't the Ranger Glaive dudes have something like 65 weapon strength, it's horrendous.

>>164589667
>>164588614
bats and wolves gather

>>164590853
Welcome to every TW game for the last decade

>>164590573
Why are they a bitch to the english?

>true understanders from around the world.
Whatever higher power you believe in, bless you.

>>164590853
You don't need a 20 stack to defeat armies in a rome 2 unwalled siege defence. You only need like maybe 5 good units + garrison.

How can I make the game load shit faster? It always takes a good 3-4 minutes of loading screen to get into a single battle, and then another 3-4 to go back into the campaign map.

>>164591473
SSD

>>164577797
there is but its out of date

>>164591550
Is that like a sex thing or something?

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We're coming weak umgi and dawi

>>164576797
uk

>>164591689
Better than sex. Upgrade of the century.

>>164591703
Yeah, but you're coming dead last.

>>164591845
>dead last.
That's Ogres, DLC015

Can someone explain how Chaos works? I just hit the main invasion event and I don't know if I should sit back and try and withstand whatever happens or if I should try and go out and fuck as many hordes as possible. Playing as VC

>>164579915
That's not hoe you spell brittania>>164579483
>>164579467

>>164569252
>implying it won't be Valten

>>164591248
So how do I deal with it?

>>164592226
Kill people before they can take things or just expand really slowly

>>164570330
That's just tw for you. Sometimes the ai is complete garbage, most of the time they're ok. I Fucking hate it when epic battles get ruined by shit ai

>>164591828
I looked it up on google, thanks for the suggestion. It does seem good.

What are your guys opinion on Divide et Impera mod?

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I haven't come here in months, is everyone still talking about Borehammer?

>>164592295
But be careful about expanding slowly, /twg/ make fun of you if your campaigns go over 100 turns

>>164582709

Goodbye, ancient one ;_;7

I'm going to slaughter captured beastmen from now on instead of releasing them, just for you!

>>164590853
Develop good public order and a decent garrison, expand further so that it needs less defence. You are trying to expand too fast which is your problem.

>>164592731
/twg/ doesn't do that anywhere near as much as /gsg/

>>164592659
Kind of impressive how we've managed to consistently have sex during so many centuries, huh?

;_;

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East or west?

>>164589667
VC are basically just the remnants of the true empire of undeath under Nagash since the vampires used to be is lieutenants, if Kemmler were weaker or didn't have Krell he'd just be a vampire thrall. Makes sense he'd work for VC, Neferata and Arkhan however are going to be difficult to reconcile since both use Nehekharan units.

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>>164592659
>That older greek diddling the boy
Its the details which matter

>>164592021

Which areas do you control, and who else in imperial land is big? Generally you only want to fuck with chaos if you control territory as North as Bevhafen. Otherwise, fortify your northern borders and let them wash over your enemies.

>>164589667
Ideas for a Kemmler horde campaign

>Doesn't suffer traditional vampiric corruption attrition.
>Doesn't create vampiric corruption either, or at least not a significant amount
>Attrition and resupply is based mostly on how powerful the winds of magic in a province are. Only the lowest levels will cause attrition, while anywhere from normal and up with have increasingly higher replenishment rates.
>Splinter hordes suffer more and more attrition the further away from kemmler since its his overall will that is keeping the horde intact.
>Has quest that cannot be teleported to in order to complete his campaign
>require him to wander the map to pick up artifacts from nagash.

thoughts.