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'BOUT DAMN TIME edition

>What's new?
Zul'jin (the Warcraft version, not the WoW version) on PTR next week, release following week
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/zuljin/

https://youtu.be/XUhMCNzcUb0 https://youtu.be/sYIpkktbm68

>Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20407269/weekly-sale-jan-3-10-2017-1-3-2017

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Where do I find you SOPPING DOE ______ loving faggots?
/join /vg/

>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20409787/silver-city-12-30-2016

>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20407399/12-20-2016

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

Previously on /hotsg/: >>164324736
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>Zul'jin (the Warcraft version, not the WoW version) on PTR next week, release following week
kek
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>>164528787
Friendly reminder to post region and b.net tag if you actually want last-minute help with the Genji skin.
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>>164528924
oh right
isn't he releasing tomorrow
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>>164528924
>>164529085
nah
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>>164529017
friendly reminder to eat shit
>doing shit last minute
typical genji player
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>>164529518
You got it all wrong.

Genji players would be the ones to charge in first and die.
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This is frustrating. Xul didn't show up to first team tribute, but even though we didn't get tribute, the enemy team got greedy and got wiped.

Then he acted like a smug cunt and called me a shitter for saying he should've been at tribute when it was spawning.

Was he right? Was I a shitter? I don't know any more. On one hand, the enemy team was really bad.
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>>164530439
Need to watch replay. But it sounds like miscommunication and a gamble. The gamble paid off, but no thanks to him.
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>match loads up
>"i pick falstad"
>is shit the whole game
>tell everyone to chill because everyone collectively loses their shit at every opportunity
>we lose
>"gg i report u all for offensive :)"
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>>164530439
>xul
>cursed hollow

Questionable.

It could've definitely been worth it if he was smashing the shit out of a lane or two, though.

>>164530639
>"im saving this recording and sending it to blizzard :)"

who and what are these people lmao
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>>164530439
Obviously getting the tribute, wiping the enemy and getting lane xp is better than getting the tribute and wiping the enemy. So he's right.

However expecting your team to win 4v5 just so you can push what, a wall, is beyond greedy and most of the time plain stupid and wrong, so you're right.

So take your pick. At the end of the day if you get away with being greedy, it's better than not being greedy.
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>play auriel
>entire team going to get comboed by well placed ring of frost
>aegis myself to prevent from getting deleted
>dps dies instantly
>"WTF AURIEL U SHIT UR SO BAD OMG LOL GG I AFK LOL"
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>>164530873
>doesn't derive satisfaction from abuse

why are you playing support lmao
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>>164530982

because i'm a cuck who is forced to fill because i am in gold and get matched with shitboys like me
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>>164530982
i wish the healslut meme would die already
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>>164531175
>gold

stop playing auriel
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>>164530873
why would you save yourself? you're fucking useless without a team, at least if you managed to save an assassin they could clear some waves while waiting for the rest of you shitters
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>>164531251

I'm also fucking useless while dead
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>>164531291
So you're useless either way, but you choose the option that made sure everyone else is useless too.
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>>164531251

Also I was against Rehgar/Thrall so we never stood a chance really.
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>>164531416
lmao what a shitter
>this is what bronzies actually believe
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did u guys know u can do vs ai in under 2 minutes if u have raynor, illidan, sgt hammer, sylvanas in team. probably even faster with abathur as 5th. you can probably even do a vs ai match in 1:30 on maps where you can skip 2 towers and gate

well now you know
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>>164531830
My record is 1.50 with Sylvanas, hammer, raynor, Auriel and I think it was dehaka.
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>>164530743
>>164530718
>>164530608
Okay. I feel a bit better.

Ugh. This whole day has been bad games. I finally got Chen to 10, but now I don't even feel like I am good enough for his Master Skin.

Especially since apparently Diablo and Artanis got buffed to the point that me playing him is super fucking rough.
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Repeating digits say we will get non-Warcraft characters for a change.
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>>164531830

Yeah, of course.

And on Tower's of Doom just leave a person to defend each captured structure.

>all these people who waited until the last minute panicking to get it done

Ehehehe. Every time.

>>164531929

Dibbles'll get nerfed soon. No idea about Artanis. Hope he gets deleted, desu.

>infernal shrines
>alternating between top and mid or mid and bot on xul
>objective spawns
>show up to win or lose
>leave as soon as one of the above is clear
>get two sets of towers and a bunch of fort ammo while the first punisher tears down part of a wall

Xul can cause games like that to spiral out of control really, really easily.
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>>164531814

Yes you're right. I have a 100% lose/win rate when EQ/BL is in the game. Whoever has it wins, and I never get to ban so it's usually the other team.

Shit strats work in shit MMR games, who knew!
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How do I Alarak?
I just hit the combo into a liming and she just walked away from me afterwards and killed me when the silence ended
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I want to try my placement again after that debacle that ended up with me at Rank 38 (which fuck knows, might be my real rank).

These are my top played heroes (well, kind of, by level at least). The supports I feel comfortable playing are BW, Morales and Malf. I used to play Rehgar back when he was a healbot with wolf as an escape.

Any tips about who to pick when I am stuck first picking? In general, I feel most comfortable as tank.
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>>164532126
Diablo already was nerfed, I wouldnt expect many more
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How's Leoric in the current meta, and what's the talents he's good picking?
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>>164532561
They didn’t stop with Greymane until he was dead
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>>164532648

He's in the "not optimal" tier and only really counters high HP heroes and sustained fights. I guess he can be drafted as a second tank against a comp with Diablo or Muradin.

You build for "give me as much sustain as possible" or making your spooky swing/hand more powerful. Take March only when the other team has a lot of AOE CC like EQ or Graviton or Ring of Frost, etc.
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>>164532486
>R onto squishy
>Q them, W if necessary
>E

Does this not instantly kill Valla, Li-Ming and Chromie?

>>164532514

Yeah, go for it. Who cares where you place? Just play whatever you enjoy and try your best.

>first pick

Ideally/theoretically stuff that's easily countered, like Illidan or Chen. It doesn't really matter, but try to keep it in mind.
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Quick question, why isn't the version of Diablo in the very first trailer not even in the game?
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>>164533265

Because they're slow as shit with releasing stuff.

I could've sworn they recently mentioned it would be soon, though.
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>>164533265
Because D3 Diablo a shit compared to D2 Diablo.
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>>164533265

soon

Also because Diablo 2 fags wouldn't have been pleased, and every other diablo hero in the game is from D3 except necro..
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>>164533265

Because they can wait and charge $15 for it later.
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>>164533395

necro is also a diablo 3 character. more than half of him anyway.
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>>164534691

Xul himself isn't in D3, it's the Necromancer from D2. Only his shit apprentices and seen in D3. The DLC hero coming out is some original character literally who.
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>>164532812
Greymane's loss came from Blizzard's misguided attempts to make people pick his not-worgen ult not by making it better but by nerfing his worgen form until it was worthless.
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>>164534918

And then nerfing the human form ultimate so it was even worse than before.
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>>164534918

Weren't they also trying his push his worgen builds because people were only interested in building ranged/aa and cocktail?
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Which useless talent would you fix by making it a quest talent?
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Is devil's due a meme? I keep seeing devil's due posters here, but i kinda feel like bulwark is the better talent. Life leech seems like shit on diablo.

I'm very nooby though. obviously. Also fuck you all itls literally harder for me to play this fucking game or any other game for tha tmatter cuz i'm retarded and my mouse clicks twice and my s key often presses w and i have a drinking problem.
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>>164537808
Check every major streamer game they ALWAYS pick bulwark and lets be honest most people here are gold.
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>>164537376
What about the talents that are already useless like all the regen globe ones?
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I'm playing my placement matches atm and no one ever picks a healer so I'm forced to do it and it sucks ass to play it every game.

And double specialists every game leading into no teamfighting potential and a lost game.

Fuck you last game's Azmodan you piece of shit did nothing.
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>>164529197
Yes he is
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>>164537808
its great on certain maps against certain comps. Towers for example, it's amazing.
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So is Zul'jin on live or PTR tomorrow?
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>>164538549
According to spanish and polish blizz posters tomorrow.
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>>164538549
Live, they even posted on facebook
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>>164538549
>You want axe? Zul'jin, Warlord of the Amani, enters the Nexus with tomorrow's patch!

First post of their facebook.
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>>164537808
if you combo it with the regen talent later you have ridiculous sustain
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>Azmodan's E damage when used on Heroes
>W mana cost without Army of Hell at 4
>Q without putting literally every talent into it and taking Black Pool

didn't he already get a """rework""" and wasn't it even worse than gazlowes
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>>164539696
I found out that Grounding Brew isn't enough to take Azmodan's E today.
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>>164539696
Azmodan's laser mostly needs a change. I feel as if it should have a tiny or no cooldown if you cancel it yourself. But a large cooldown if you get cancelled (silenced, stun etc) It should be 1. a zoning skill, where you constantly laser shit in your area, sort-of like area denial or simply just hitting lots of shit. 2. anti-structure (as it is already)

It needs a rework as it is, though. The only main issue is the cooldown situation. His dunk is pre' gud as it is and his minion (W) could perhaps use a slight buff. Perhaps slightly larger health, additional charge and slightly lower mana--just small stuff.
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>>164540527
March of Sin ought to be baseline. The laser is downright worthless in a fight without that talent.

You also ought to be able to use more abilities while channeling the laser, like at the very least summon demon warriors.
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>>164540689
Agreed. Should be able to use everything except for dunk while lasering. Good point.

I also feel as if his trait is more-or-less spot-on. Easy to kill, but great damage if left alone. Having a trait or two baseline are very good considerations too. Especially since Azmo is extremely level/talent dependant.
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heroes of the storm NA pro player
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>>164543078
Pls no.
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Are they done nerfing rag cause jesus christ

>mfw going pure blast wave build on him with heroic difficulty
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>>164543078
would u guys nail faye or oddish?

clips twitch tv/oddishplaysgames/KindSpiderPazPazowitz

look at her she is so qt, and those childbearing hips mmmm...
i like faye more even tho oddish is hottter, woudl love a 3some with these goddesses of hots
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>>164544151
that's a guy
what the fuck
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I'm looking for an assassin that is amazing at ganking but is not Nova or Kerrigan. Suggestions?
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>>164544151
faye's voice is so cute but i cannot bring myself to fug transgender.
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wow medivh is fun as heck

non stop q and 2v1ing low health nubs
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This shit is next?
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>>164545260
But it's not gay when he's a girl.
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Is it worth getting Purifier Artanis solely because he reminds me of Fulgore?
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This game looks good.
Why we can't have a wc4 with the host engi?
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>>164546928
>wanting Warcraft 4
>made by modern blizz

thats some monkey's paw shit
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>>164547212
warcraft 4 would be great

blizzard has fucked up enough times now, I think they'd do it justice. UNLESS they made an original story. Then it would blow.
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>>164547580
what else would they do besides an original story? turn every WoW expansion into an RTS campaign?
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>>164547858
They can start where wc3 ends and we can pretend that WoW didn't happen.
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what were they THINKING with this map?
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>>164547858
>turn every WoW expansion into an RTS campaign?
Yeah, pretty much. There are some decent stories in WoW; being able to show them through the eyes of important characters instead of a random player hero would make them even better. I'd play a campaign where you defend Illidan with Illidari forces in one mission and/or build a grand invasion on Icecrown.
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>>164548842
>>164547858
They could do what the comic book industry and retcon the universe every few years just to sell a new rehash.
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>>164548760
LETS SEE IF YOU CAN HANDLE

TWO

CHEST

AT

ONE!!!


fucking ants
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>Get MVP game after game
>Still lose

Why the hell should I lose rank when the game is outright telling me it's my teammates fault that I lose

>inb4 clever "me ooga team booga" comments
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>>164544151
>childbearing hips
>Faye/Oddish
I see what you did here. Still, I hope you die for spreading this filth.
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>finally save up 10k to buy medivh today
>he's free
every fucking time
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>>164550948
>wanted to try Tychus for a month now
>he's never in rotation
>too jew to spend 4k gold in case I don't like him after all
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>>164550948
I'm currently saving for Dehaka. When was the last time he was free?
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>Our thrall takes grace of air instead of giant killer
>with two healers on the team
>against cho'gall

I just can't wrap my head around people in this game.
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>>164538118
Hey....


HEEEEEY.

Regen globe is useful on glaz if going pve build.
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>>164553451
His favorite streamer said that build is good so he is doing it every game
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what rank do i need this season to get the mount?
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What should I buy?
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>>164554138

Platinum in Hero League.

Bronze in Team League/Flex.

I think, anyways. That's how it was last season.
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>>164538118
Make them less useless, like Rag's.
Only 15 globes requirement at most.
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>>164554174
ok i should get placed there again
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>>164554240
>>164538118
I always wondered in all their reworks of talents nobody ever used, why they had it for Sgt Hammer still in its current state. Hell I would actually take a replacement where any pick up would gravitate towards her during siege mode and within siege range. At a certain speed of course.
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I need 6 games for the nexus challenge second tier, my asshole friend signed up with me just to get genji then left me to dry.

tedbo #1505.

I like playing pushers, assassins, and tanks in that order. been on a samuro binge lately.
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>grinding medivh to lvl 5 for free shekels
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>>164554707
I have teamspeak 3 and discord as well.
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>>164554707
do /join nexuschallenge
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>>164554846
thanks, didnt know that
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>>164553451
People in this game have a worse understanding of talents then other moba's audience have of their respective items.
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>>164555237
How many heroes do you own?
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>>164556126
i probably miss 10 of them
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Any word on when oni genji becomes unavailable??? Like it's 7am where I am. Should I play them when I'm done work or can I sleep beforehand.

It's kinda confusing because it's the 4th so does that mean the 3rd would have been the last day or do we have until the end of the 4th.
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you had 6 weeks for the genji skin...
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>>164556984
Go back in time and tell your lazy self to do them before it's the last day
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>>164554168

a life
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>play chromie
>always top on siege damage because nobody does lanes
>always having some pointless 4v5 fight somewhere when objectives aren't up
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>play alarak
>have fun
>people run away
>press R
>no EQ
and thats why Alarak is kind of shit.
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>>164559778
>needing to slow enemies when you can fly around, block skillshots, push people and silence
This is why you're kind of shit
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>>164559778
>play Butcher
>have fun
>people run away
>mfw lamb to the slaughter
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>>164560329
or just press R to wipe the enemy team.
alarak might be a hero with a high skill ceiling but Thrall will outpeform alarak in 95% of all games.
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DED GEM is so d-e-a-d
no signs of life even after advertising campaign
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>>164561063
Except in lane.

Reminder that Alarak can out-sustain Thrall.
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>>164561447
>fucking no one to play with except the same lowpriority shitters every day
sad
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>>164556984
15 games should take you like an hour.

If there's a "Nexus Challenge" quest in the quest menu on the bottom right (e.g. the [!] button next to the char bar) then it's still available.

Go do it you fag.
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>>164561447
it definitely spiked up over the course of the nexus challenge event

the true test will be with HGC
the game is alright id say that for many people it would actually be more fun than what they are playing now but its very hard to get them to see that and come over, some of the arguments for them to stay with their current games are totally fair im just talking about gaining a decent share from those games

blizzard is doing quite a bit and it definitely is underperforming a lot popularity wise

we will have to see what they can all do as HGC becomes a thing to get it growing and growing. everything needs to be done really well and there need to be more of those promotional events for sure
they literally need to force the game since thats the biggest problem, people not wanting to give it a chance

currently its on such a tight balance that any significant decline can spell disaster as it telegraphs people dont want to watch it and thus others will simply copy that view and think why bother

personally i think they need to run almost constant promotions
make sure HGC is flawless, the downtime in between games cannot be a thing ever again. quick games are a big draw of hots and if you add lots of time in between games thats entirely negated
changing the game in some way to make it a tiny bit more complex even if its fake complexity it would do a lot to sway many peoples opinions and im sure there are some good ideas that will work with the game

the start of this year should give us a good indication of whether it will succeed or fail desu
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>>164544151
>go on his stream and ask if he's a tranny
>immediately get banned for 600 seconds
i wonder if they ever get tired of keeping up their safe space act
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>>164544151
i hate how this 50-100 viewer faggot literally gets featured in the launcher some times
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>>164563428
>600 seconds
(s)He's just playing hard to get, anon.
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Been a while since I last played. Did they do something to Greymane? His win percentage has tanked.
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>>164565040
a couple things over an amount of time
Namely giving him out free to a bunch of shitters.
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>horsepants is a pretty fun streamer
>turns his cam on and drops 400 viewers
>doesnt use cam much anymore and gets back to his regular numbers
glad it aint me desu must be rough and feel weird
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>>164565038
then when i asked why i got banned and kept pressing them on answering me, i got banned again
i hate people like him and all the people who enable him
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>>164565421
I've always hated people that facecam on streams desu
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>Playing Artanis
>Go triple hit W with % health damage
>Murky walks up to me
>Press W, he dies in a single W

Fuck outta my face you little shitter
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>>164566305
>additional 7.5% damage helped you kill a murky
Any other amazing stories you got for us?
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>>164566408
Listen, if I'm gonna talk about my W, I may as well mention everything I got for the damn thing. It was a miserable fucking game so I needed the chuckle.
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>>164565040
He's bad now.

Even as Immo DPS he's bad now but nobody in this thread believes it.
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Hey /hotsg/, I initially downloaded it for Genji but the game actually looks really fucking cool.

So, which heroes should I play so I don't fuck my teammates?
Keep in mind that I've played a lot of MOBAs so I'm not completely unexperienced.
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>>164566793
As long as you don't play trash-tier heroes and do fine most people shouldn't actively blame you.

Specialists are really the only exception to this rule because characters like meme slug will IMMEDIATELY be blamed for a loss
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Any New info on Tassadar rework?
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>>164566602
Fuck, I like Greymane.
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>>164566793
>Unpopular heroes
Arthas
Abathur
Tracer
Hammer
Lunara
Gazlowe
Illidan
The Lost Vikings
Murky

The majority of the bias against these heroes is almost completely due to the people who use them, not because the hero itself is bad.

>Weak heroes
Anub'arak
Stiches
Tassadar
Uther

These heroes are all fine technically if your team can work with you and put their faith in/count on you landing your abilities, but they just don't pack the numbers to be very effective when you're being matched with pugs

>Heroes that are easy to suck with
Kerrigan
Tychus fucking somehow
Brightwing
Auriel
Nova
Zeratul
Alarak
Medivh

I find some really solid picks in quick play are Medic, Raynor and Muradin.
Each have amazing lane presence, self healing, and cc tools to keep yourself safe.
And even if your team doesn't benefit from stim drone the enemy team will always dive super hard just to get to you and wind up trading at least 2 for 1.
Of course there's going to be times when your team isn't getting any kills and you'll run out of mana trying to keep their dumb asses alive- But hey, you win some you lose some.
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had a chance to play samuro in brawl

hes literally JUST tier right now

thanks reddit
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DIZ WAZ OUR NEXUS
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this is why artanis is top tier best boy, have fun

https://my.mixtape.moe/cjucdt.StormReplay
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>HGC starts the 20th
>big summit in california with eu and na pros
wew
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Okay folks I just bought Abathur and any help would be appreciated. What the fuck am I suppose to do, also builds'n'shit.
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why THE FUCK would you decrease Anub's health AGAIN
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>>164571208
B-But he has more baseline spell armor

I still don;t understand what that means. Did Anub get nerfed?
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http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20407400/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-january-4-2017-1-4-2017

its here faggots
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>now has 10 armor while in Worgen form
This game has baseline damage reduction?
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>>164571410
nerfed into nonexistence. 25% spell damage reduction at all times means nothing when you die in 4 autos and have no regeneration to speak of.

>>164571498
it has now.
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>>164562031
I wish blizz would fix the fucking reconnect system already. Shit like that is ragequit tier, especially when some of the disconnects force you to actually exit the game and restart it.
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>>164571496
tl;dr

Greymane, Arthas and Anub get baseline resistance for ever all the time. Arthas' is 15% against AAs, Anub's is 25% against spells, Greymane's 10% against everything

But Anub gets health nerf for that. Yup, a nerf to Anub's HP, WTF Blizz

Azmo laser movement baseline

Some talent changes for Azmo, Sylv and Nova

Hyperion bug fixed

That's basically all
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>>164571496
so they fixed raynor's bug but didn't do ANYTHING about diablo, thrall, or rhegar

Meta is still completely fucked boys, gg.
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>>164570941
>someone doesn't hate my state unconditionally
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>>164571496
>Greymane
>now has 10 armor while in Worgen form
Gee Blizz, that's exactly what he needed.
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>those Azmo buffs

I will miss Imposing Presence though
I don't get why Demonic Invasion got a tiny nerf though, it's the biggest nerd bait talent there is.
It's a fun ability, but it does nothing compared the the monstrous output you get in black pool.
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>they removed paralysis from sylvanas
>they removed a shit talent because they thought it was too good
Wow woah
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>>164571784
>ban thrall
>pick disengage
>meta fixed
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>no nerfs to thrall or diablo
Oh boy another week of two of the best heroes the game has ever seen.
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>spell armor
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>9:15
>maintenance still in progess
BLIIZZZAAAAAAAAAAARD
WHAAAAAAAAT THEFUCKAREYOUDOING

>>164572062
>another week
Add 7-28 days
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>>164572069
>>164571496
>spell armor
>physical armor

We real moba now?

Will past talents desciptions change to implement this? Spell shield gives spell armor for X seconds?
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>>164572062
I've been out of the meta for a while now, why is thrall OP?
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>>164572127
Wow, someone actually lives in Nevada?
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>armor
>spell armor
>physical armor
will this complexity bring in the superior skilled players from lol and dota?
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>>164572127
>17:15
>finished with daily life
>want to try Zul'jin
>fucking 'murricans just now eat their breakfast burritos, their server still doesn't work
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Valeera soon
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>no artanis nerfs
me likey
me swappy
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>>164572345
Solos anyone. Can almost paralyze/quasi-root a team with revised ult. Tanky as fuck/sustain even during team fights. Don't forget that poke.
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>>164562031
>changing the game in some way to make it a tiny bit more complex even if its fake complexity

>Spell Armor
>Physical Armor
>True Armor

Are you happy now, you time-travelling anon?
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>>164572345
They made Earthquake trigger his trait.
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>>164572502
>Tons of texture on her armor.
>Except on her butt which looks like like to generic lined half circles with flat colors and the blue lines.
Face looks underwhelming too now that I look at it.
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>>164572380
Should be called
>damage mitigation
>ability mitigation
>attack mitigation
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>>164571932
paralysis was default choice you donut
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>>164572502
Haven't played since the charge swap went live, is it pure hell?
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>>164572726
>actually picking paralysis
Oh no actually alternating attacks between towers is so fucking hard.
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>>164570567
nice erp fag
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>>164572654
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>>164572854
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>>164562031
When they add 20 new non-assassin heroes I'll call it officially out of the beta
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>>164572963
Sometimes I don't understand why Blizz's production values are top tier in some aspects and total shit in others.

D3 (the game) character models look like 3D rejects from the PS1 era. I know blizz does their best to make their games toaster friendly but that shit was hideous on top of its horrid gameplay/powercreep.
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>>164572963
Are we posting things that trigger us or things that arouse us?
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>>164573236
both
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>>164573358
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>>164573358
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>Zul'jin's attack speed at low health
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do i wait 2 weeks and buy him at 10k or do spend the extra 5k now?

i'm a casual but i really want to play this troll
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>>164573874
[STIM DRONE NOISE]
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>>164571498
Yep.
This is pretty big for Arthas, by the way. 15% armor means he now has effectively 15% more health, except %-based damage won't deal more damage. It also means all his healing is pretty much buffed by 15%, from his own skils AND your local support. I'm looking forward to seeing how this works, honestly.

>25% base spell mitigation on Anub
>can take spell shield for 75% spell resistance every 8 seconds
Anti-mage as fuck.
>10% less health
Oh for fucks sake Blizzard. His problem has never been his survivability against mages, it's been his survivability against everything due to being fragile as fuck. Why push him further into a niche? God damn it.
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>>164573983
UNDERKING WILL RISE AGAIN BUGBROS
JUST WAIT FOR INEVITABLE OVERCOMPENSATION BUFFS
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HAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHA

zul'jin is way too overpowered, just played him with Medivh's invulnerable

holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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Do limited time bundles that go away eventually come back?

Like if I wait long enough, will I get another chance to buy the Maraudin Muradin skin?
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>went from 7000 gold when I logged out to 15000 now
Uh, did something happen?
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>>164574175
no, but you might have a chance if you're dedicated enough to build a cult of people demanding the return of limited bundles
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I just tested Zul'jin out.. fucker does over 1,5k dmg if you talent him right at 1% health. I killed the dummy in a short bit.

>40%as
>50%atk dmg
yeah well, uh, see you guys in two weeks
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>>164574175
Yes.

>>164574285
New years present from Blizz, they just forgot to code that in because they're dorks.

I also got like 5k more gold than before, spend it before they notice you fool.
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ty blizzard for ruining zuljin voice

>>164573358
source
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>>164574436
the internet
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Since Uther is the healing paladin, and if they made an assssin ret paladin such as Tirion or Liadrin, whow ould fit as a tanky prot paladin? Maraad?
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>>164574947
I'm sure Maraad had a big ass 2h hammer in bc.
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>800 secs queue with ZJ
>You have been disconnected

I think I'm done for today.
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>>164575072
And Leoric has a big ass 2h Mace in HotS, sounds like a good warrior fit, no?

>>164575176
Thanks for testing :)
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is mewnfarez one of our LITERAL guys or what
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DUDE FREE GOLD LMAO

bought zul'jin and varian and then got disconnected
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>>164575227
I don't think you know what testing is anon.
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>>164574947

how about they add a diablo 2 paladin, since there is only one diablo 2 character and we have more than enough wowfaggotry.
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>Zul'jin voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnVNrRHVOLw
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Raynor still bugged?
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>>164575296
i kinda like it
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>>164575289
Testing is you playing this piece of shit hero and abusing until he's nerfed.
I'm not playing before that anyway, so the more you cucks play him, the sooner he'll get slapped. So you're doing me a favor in testing just how dumb your enemies/teammates are.

>>164575375
Fuck reading I guess.

>>164575290
Fuck Diablo. I don't need more Belfs so Liadrin can stay out, but Maraad would be perfect as the Draenai.
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>>164575454
because u never saw zulaman trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmndxoF74qQ
now after watching it if u dont dislike hots zuljin voice then u must be euthanized
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>>164575506
Maybe you should read the first post again, I didn't play him at all.
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>>164572824
sometimes there would be opponents trying to kill you you know

and the other t1 talents suck ass
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>#Heroes maintenance has been extended until 10 AM PST. We apologize for any disruption and hope to restore service quickly. #BlizzCS
reeeeeeeeeeeee

>>164575638
ok i get it now, the HoTS sounds a bit like the trolls from WC2
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>>164575784
>Oh no, we accidentally gave people free gold, better shut it down.
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>>164575638
man this zuljin voice... = 100% RaW eMoTiOn... rlly fkn good. blizzard just had to ruin it in HEROS OF THE STORM.


arthas did nothing wrong
garrosh did nothing wrong
othmar garithos did nothing wrong
zuljin did nothing wrong
illidindu ?
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>WAAH muh wow zuljin voice
kys
he sounds alright
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>>164575697
Free Withering Fire is ok if you want more waveclear, though I wish they'd remove the "can't hit heroes" restriction.
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>>164575858
blizzdrone faggot
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>finally unlocked Sylvanas
>been using MC for free teamfight victories
>it gets buffed
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>>164575638
>ywn be a badass forest troll
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>>164575951
i bet you gave at least 5 bucks to blizzard for anything

here i am, the only blizzard games i ever played were wc3 (pirated), diablo 2(pirated) and hots. never gave them a dime
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>>164575973
>mc
>good in teamfights

MC is for picking off out of position scrubs and nothinh else
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>>164576138
>the pirating some of the best games from blizz's heyday
Although I totally understand if you did it after the Activision merger. The price on those games actually went UP.
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>>164576191
>MC is for picking off out of position scrubs

yeah, and there's always one retard out of position when a fight breaks out

at least, in my bracket
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>another 7 days of "Your X is worse than their X"
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>>164576359
i was pretty young back then, parents werent really swimming in money and i had the knowledge to pirate videogames.
nothin personnel
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>>164576928
>being poor

AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Which female hero has the best conversations about college football?
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>>164577201
you hurt me so
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>possession got buffed again
Face it blizz, its shit
maybe if it would work on mercenaries
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>>164577245
Sonya. Zarya does not understand why men kick ball when they can kick balls instead
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>>164577468
posession is like marked for death

its core is broken
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>>164577468
>go into enemy territory
>steal only one siege minion/2-3 bruisers
>leave camp for them to have to waste time capturing it later
Love it
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>>164577468
Yep.
>You can use 2 charges of Possesion to convert an enemy mercenary.
Insanely strong.
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>wanted to get a couple games in before work
>server is still down for maintenance.
What the fuck. Yesterday they were saying it would be done by 9 and now they are saying 10. Nig nog faggots.
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>>164578094
It was up then it went down again.
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>tfw made master league just in time before the newest cancer hero release and can now take it easy for the rest of the season
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>>164578094
>Yesterday they were saying it would be done by 9
It's always 9, but lately they either take it back down or just extend it normally because they fucking suck at their jobs.
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>>164578094
They had the server up but they accidentally gave everyone like 10k gold so they had to take it back down ASAP.
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>>164579073
Fug I missed it.
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>>164579073
>not even enough gold for everyone to get new hero
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>noon now.


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>available again at approximately 12:00 PM (PST)
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>>164575296
wait a second, is the Amani Exchange the shop he was working in that unreleased point and click game?
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>>164579548
I don't get the appeal of latex. Sure it looks sexy, but it also looks uncomfortable as fuck.

Captch: LONDON
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>>164579548
>>164579592
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>>164575638
>superior wc2 zuljin voice over wow zuljin
>>
here's the spotlight, i think i have a hard on for this fag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_anDLgrR2Tc
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New player here first time playing Hots.
Is Chen stormstout any good?
>>
Space Marine or The Evil Within while waiting?
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>>164581264
He's kind of trolley if you play him right.
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>>164580670
My troll

If I were to pick one, Zul'jin is my nostalgiest Blizzard hero, since I was a little fucker back then and trolls were cool.
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>>164580724
This voice is soo much better than the wow one
>dis is our land mon 420 blaze it xd

Fucking shit.
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>>164580724
>Deals IMMENSE DAMAGE
>hits them for like 5% of their health

I get the gimmick is that you need to be low to use it but come on
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>>164581264
He's fun, but I don't think I would say he's good.
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>>164581389
What's the right build?
Also how good is li-li as a support?
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>>164575857
>arthas did nothing wrong
>burned the ships so his men couldn't leave northrend
>blamed the mercs that helped him on his mission, his men murdered the mercs

you can justify Stratholme, and chalk up everything after to being under the LK's control, but that bit was fucked
>>
>>164581264
Chen's a pretty good hero.
You get fucked by stuns harder than most other tanks and he's a bit hard to play since you have to manage brew effectively (and Panda Pals ult requires micro) but he's very solid.

>>164581764
Li-Li is alright as a babby's first support (I mean you don't even have to AIM anything) but isn't that great. She's very situational.
>>
I also finished the 30 games with friends quests and I really like greymane is there a correct build for him?
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>>164580724
I think I can wait until 10k for this one.

Honestly, I might skip it like Guldan.
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>>164582385
Why skip Gulberg? He is fun as hell
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>>164582065
There's two builds.

Standard, and Cocktail (Q).

Standard:
>Wolfheart
>Stealth
>AA range
>Go for the Throat
>Movement Speed
>Executioner
>Blunderbuss

Cocktail is mostly the same, you just take every Q talent until 10 instead.

If you can't keep combo up consistently then don't feel bad about taking something over the Movement Speed talent.

I couldn't really tell you much else, since I'm learning the hero myself, except don't greed too hard to keep up combo and get a good sense of when to stop poking and go in.
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>The banter between heroes at the start of the game
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>>164582534
>>164582065
Greymain here

Go for the Troat is pretty shitty nowadays. It's obviously good against hard to hit squish targets, but in a standard match Marked for the Kill gets you more value.

If you don't have CC, then attack speed on 16 is very good and can take place of executioner, though if you don't have any CC that means you're playing quick match and can win with anything based on coinflip. There aren't many things more fun though, than taking Wisened Duelist in QM and massacring absolutely everyone (you'll learn hopefully).
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>Play against Ragnaros
>New player have no idea what he does
>"By Fire be Purged"
>Get fucking sweeped
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>>164583727
>the uther + rag banter
>>
I haven't played since early last year, the fuck do I do? What's the meta? All I ever knew was to play Diablo.
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>>164583912
>quests that give no reward and aren't permanent
Shitter traps, all of them.
>quests that require kills or deaths in general
Absolute trash unless you're bronze.

But fuck me, they are fun.
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>>164584000
DIE, INSECT

>>164584082
You're in luck, the big guy is one of the best heroes right now.
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>>164584010
isn't the uther va surprisingly ranged in what kind of voices he can do?
>>
FFS, when will the server be online?!
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>>164584750
soon(tm)
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>>164584082
Rejoice, playing Diablo will get you far.

>Assassins
Li-Ming, KT, Valla, Thrall, Ragnaros
>Tanks
Diablo, Muradin, ETC, Johanna, Dehaka
>Support
Malfurion, Rehgar, Brightwing
>Specialists
Sylvanas, you don't need the others at any MMR worth a shit.
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>>164584929
>lists fucking KT and Valla
>but not Tychus
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>>164585092
Tychus is a noob trap
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>>164585143
t. Bronze
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You guys reckon they'll revert any purchases because of the glitched gold?
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>>164585092
Tychus isn't needed in a Thrall/Rehgar/Valla meta.
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>>164585279
>Tychus isn't needed
>>
are the NA servers up? I want to try the troll in try mode
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Why is diablo so good?
>>
>>164585481
they're not
it's getting pretty ridiculous
>>
>>164585490
He's the tankiest hero in the game with an assload of CC and pretty decent damage.
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>>164584136
Fantastic to know, hopefully my skills haven't tanked.
>>164584929
Huh. It ETC really that good still? He seemed strong when I was playing, but kinda just...dull to play, it felt like
>>
So, any bets for who is laughing at the end of Zul'jin's video?
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>>164573358
>Li ming is an anal slut
Why am I not surprised?
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>>164585847
my money is on zul'jin
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>>164585858
Because you want to lick her butthole.
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>>164585683
Even tankier then heavy armor slut? Shit.
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>>164586006
35% spell resist with, what 8k HP?


If you take the right talent at level 1, you heal for like 12k from fountain too so pretapping is insane.
>>
Been out of the game a while, is Anub'arak still literal garbage with no damage, no sustain, no hp, and barely any CC?

What even is the point of him
>>
>>164586236
Yes.

He now gets like 75% spell resist though.
>>
>>164586236
they are trying to introduce a new stat to make him viable
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>>164585420
>letting your enemy have Dibbles
Tychus is baggage you can't afford in these times, get with the program you fuck.
>>
>>164585959
That is correct, but was not hard to guess
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>>164586323
You shouldn't let the enemy team get Thrall, not Diablo.
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>>164586096
25%
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>>164586236
>literally all the CC in the world
>"barely any"

how bout you learn to land those spikes before you run your mouth
>>
>>164585847
MANNOROTH
>>
Vikings rework when?
>>
>>164586445
What's 0.35 x 100, Anon?
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>>164586748
s-shut up
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>>164586748
it got nerfed smartass
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>>164586748
>http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20407399/12-20-2016
:^)
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>>164585279
The meta also happens to be double warrior right now.
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>>164586963
>>164587004
I'm gay then.
Fucking wiki being outdated.
>>
>>164586420
>letting the enemy team have Rehgar
God damn it, this is why you're stuck in bronze you antiquated turd.
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>>164575857
To be fair
Illidan did nothing wrong
Half the villains of WoW are created because their friends abandoned them when they needed to do something important
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>>164587225
>using the fucking wiki instead of the game
And straight 7 on the Kinsey scale you are. Hah.
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>>164587638
The game is down, you turd.
>>
I've played HOTS for like 300 hours and have never even tried unranked or hero league.

Should I even bother?
>>
>Take Tuesdays and Wednesdays off as my "weekend" so I can spend the whole thing doing whatever new game or update comes out on Tuesday
>Blizz is slowly but surely forcing their updates to come out at around 3 pm on Wednesday

Fucking Retarded.
>>
>>164587852
nah
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>>164587850
>being a NAcuck
Glorious Eastern Asia here, suckit f・a・g・g・o・t
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>>164587852
if you want to see a healer you have to
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>approximately 1:00 PM (PST)
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>>164588370
Blizz "accidentialy" gave everyone 10k gold so instead of saying "happy new year, here's a free hero" they gotta spend 5 hours "fixing" their mistake.
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>>164588512
>"accidentialy"
>""

what did he mean by this?
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>>164588512
I'm curious if I'll still have the gold when I relaunch, because I spent 15k buying Zul'jin.

I could have bought him regardless but I'm going to laugh my ass off if Blizzard is full of such unrepentant jews that they're going to take the gold away from me
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>25 magic armor

wait so does kinky beetle just take 25% less damage

>>164588512
>missed the 5k kharazim
>potentially missed free 10k

fug me
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>>164588512
>oy vey, we gave the goym FREE GOLD! How could this happen!
>tell shekelstien to delay the patch until we can reverse this!
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if they delay one more fucking hour just to take away people's gold i might just have to get a hold of some anthrax
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>>164588785
25% less magic damage
he's still going to get punched to death in every teamfight if he sticks around for longer than 1 procast
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>>164588971

Yeah, that's what I meant. 25% passive ability damage reduction. Neat.

>>164588810

What happened, exactly?
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>>164589030
There was a small window of time earlier today where you could log on, and people found themselves with an extra 10k gold or something. The current speculation is that this was an accident and now they're delaying the actual release to take that 10k back and undo purchases made with it.
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>>164589030
And 10% less health in exchange, fucking idiots.
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>>164584010
Pretty impressive to me that Uther has voice lines for Rag. Either they recorded that waaay long ago since he is an alpha hero or they call the guy back every once in the while and pay just for a few voice lines

In fact, when Auriel was released every single hero got like 1-2 voice lines for when they are ressurected too. Blizz does put flavor in their games
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>>164589030
>>164589195
Which would be a really dick thing to do, because there was Christmas and New Years. They couldve just attributed it to that instead of rolling back the server to be massive Jews about it.
I guess Jews dont celebrate Christmas though.
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>>164589226
It wouldn't be a balancing patch otherwise. :(

>>164589195
Ah, okay. Cheers.

>>164589235
Makes me wonder how far into the future they've planned Heroes.
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Is this a good site that reliably shows what the meta is? I'm looking for a site that shows what's meta so I can invest in this game properly.

http://www.tentonhammer.com/articles/heroes-of-the-storm-tier-list
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guess i'll just play the diablo old tristram event, fuck all these delays
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>>164589570
have you checked hotslogs?
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>>164589427
Yes, it would be balancing his shit winrate towards a neutral/good winrate.

>>164589291
>>164589195
>>164588968
>>164588810
>>164588785
>>164588712
>waaah they gun teiku away muh welfar e shekels
>awawa bloo blizzard a boo boo
We JUST had a promotion that gave you heroes worth 40k fucking gold and a one MONTH long stimpack.
Jesus Christ you losers, seriously consider suicide.

>inb4 Blizzdrone shill fuck off etc
Why the fuck do you think you had any right to free gold in the first place. What the hell made you think: "Yep, I'm tots gonna keep that"? You knew it was a mistake and now you still complain? Idiot. Fucking nobrainers.
Yeah, Blizzard not reverting the change would be nice, but it's a company, why the fuck would they ever be nice.
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>>164589570
Uh, this is a pretty odd list.

Okay in terms of hero viability/strength, I think? Not terribly useful for newer players, though.

>auriel S tier
>li-ming S tier
>zeratul S tier
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>>164589894
Blizzdrone shill fuck off
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>>164589986
>poorfag blown the fuck out
Gonna get drunk on those tears bruvluv.
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>>164590095
shill go aweh
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>>164589894
It's not even about the gold, but the fact that servers still don't work because of it.
It's not that we so desperately want that gold that's infuriating, but the fact that Blizz so desperately wants us to not have it even though they somehow screwed up by giving it and now they screw us more by not even allowing us to play while they undo it.
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>>164589886
What determines how meta a hero is? Their winrate, popularity, or ban rate?
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>>164590219
all three, make sure to filter all leagues but master (diamond is optional)
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Now those fucking shitters that use wave for dmg have a talent for that.

Thanks for enabling retards Blizz
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>>164590219
Winrate makes a hero meta.
Meta heroes also become popular as tier lists place them high and every shitter follows them.
Heroes with high banrates are mostly pubstompers.

>>164590208
Well, it's purely an assumption the servers don't work because of that. If they revert purchases and say literally nothing about the delay, then yes, you can complain about -this- factor.
But they might have actual problems because some intern fucked up something again, or they did not notice a server breaking bug in their current build and are desperately trying to fix it.
Wouldn't be the first time, it was bonkers how long they let the wallclimb bug live in OW. I'd rather have them fix that sooner than later.
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>>164589894
>t. blizzshill

If they fucked up and gave out a bit of free gold, why not just let the players have it rather than delay this shit for 4+ hours? Obviously it would make sense to do this for some gamebreaking bug, but
>oh fuck we accidentally gave them gold
>well undo it
>that's going to take the game down for several more hours sir
>I don't give a fuck peon, they already got their allotment of generosity for the next 12 months

Am I going to be upset if I log on and see that I dont have 10k extra gold? No, but I will be if the delay is because they accidentally gave TOO MUCH and wasted all this time instead of just rolling with it.
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>>164590525
Well, sure it's an escape tool but it DOES deal damage.

What's wrong with shooting it out if you're sure you won't need it to run?
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>>164589894
It never ceases to impress me how mindlessly shit-eating true blizzard drones are.

Honestly, I forget sometimes. Thanks for the reminder that you seriously think it's okay for them to drop the game for five hours because people got enough money to buy ONE new hero.
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>>164590708
>Well, sure it's an escape tool but it DOES deal damage.
This should be engraved over the fucking fireplace at the Bronze Order Hall
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>>164590381
I disagree with you on filtering all leagues. Masters is WAAAAY diferent than the lower leagues. I bet you that Jaina has better winrates on Master/Diamond than on Plat and below, for example....Medivh too etc
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>>164590525
It was the shitter thing to do before. It's not the shitter thing to do now, with that talent. The way a character plays can change, so adapt.
It's not like she doesn't have like three talents that help her mobility or give her additional escape options, and it's also not like you can't save your wave for fleeing either.
Blizzard is not responsible for shitters not knowing how to play, but I can tell you that if you had a higher rank, you wouldn't need to complain about this.
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so uh, how long till i can play this fucking game?
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so they posted something on the blizz site where they have special events in games to celebrate diablo 20 year aniversary, they only say battlefield of eternity map, maybe a brawl or something

I kind of expect the gold to be something part of that, some unanounced goodie

anyway I'm too depressed to plug in my gaming pc but I came here to say zuljin looks pretty interesting

anyone else find themselves fucking burned out of absolutely everything? its like I cant find a hobby or a game I keep playing, I currently cant even stand to think about playing this game even though 2 months ago I was buying legendary skins and having amazing fun, right now im actually fucking playing chess online

will this hell ever end
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>>164590869
>>164590705
>the delay is exclusively because of the free gold
Assumptions, and you don't even know if they're changing it at all.
It's all wee-wee baby complaints before you even have an idea what's actually going on.
Get some ritalin for that ADHD and just fucking wait.
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what are you lads playing while waiting for HotS to be up
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IT'S UP

AND THE ZUL'JIN I BOUGHT WITH THE "FREE" GOLD IS STILL THERE
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>>164591170
>zero will to play hots

Same. Found myself procrastinating queuing even Unranked. Just decided to take a break.

>>164591343

Vs. AI in Legolegends on sneak mouse to get the daily win out of the day.

>>164591354

Oh, brilliant.
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THEYRE UP!!!! AND I HAVE THE EXTRA GOLD STILL!!
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>>164591170
OW got an icon (worth nothing) and 6 sprays (sprays go for 25g/75g for seasonal stuff), Converted, that's like, 300 gold in this game, maybe? I don't think 10k gold is part of that anniversary celebration.

Oh and stop posting on an anonymous shitposting board about your depression, no one here really cares. Find someone that does, get help.
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>people still have the free gold
>which means EVERYONE is going to buy Zul'jin
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>login to NA to see
>no gold
at least ow gave me boxes and some sprays and icons
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ALL IN
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>>164591594
Hah, fuck that, I'm going to get into Artanis instead and wait for Zul'jin to get cheap. FREE gold is still no excuse for being gold-inefficient.
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>log in for the first time today
>no free gold

Oh, well.
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>get a takedown on all unique enemy Heroes

Okay, he doesn't have to kill them.

>personal kill streaks when tho
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>No free gold
Oh
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>>164591203
>complaints

I'm not saying that's for sure what's causing it friendo, it's just fun to blizzjew jokes, and they are just jokes because yeah, we don't know what the exact cause is yet. If it turns out that it was the reason, then I'll be annoyed, but if it isn't, then no harm no foul. I'm real sorry that any sort of jab at blizz triggers you.
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>>164590708
You can never be sure

Hell when I play against sylv I take it as a free bully me sign and force a recall or a moonwell drink.
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NO

FREE

GOLD

BLIZZARD

NOOOOOOOOO
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can grubby login
fuck this mewnfares guy desu
hes alright im gonna watch him anyway
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>>164591474
it's more like I'm wondering if I'm fucked in the head that I enjoy something for 3 months- 1 year and then fucking drop it completely and lose all will to pick it up again

it also happened for me for overwatch, I enjoyed it immensely even though I hated tf2, but after 1 point I lost all will, went back to check out sombra and had nothing keeping me playing

maybe I needed a break? I can't imagine that I'm over multiplayer games, but it shocked me how I went from playing every night to not even having the pc plugged

I've been hooked on this game since launch and played it semi-regularly until now

shit and I was just now getting to actually match skins and mounts for some dank ass combos like red master jaina and red hell billie
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>>164592308
Bruv, I'm not going to read that. I don't care, seriously, talk with an actual person about it, don't blogpost here, it's not HotS related.
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>Be that returning player from earlier
>Check through who I own, remembering I liked Tyrael and Arthas
>Arthas has a Guan Yu skin
PLEASE TELL ME HE'S GOOD
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>>164592484
he's great as a 2nd tank
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>>164592484

Yeah, he's good.
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>no permanent hero price reduction

or am i just blind
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>>164592778
what?
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>>164592412
you're right I'm being offtopic and depressed faggot

>>164592484
last times i played arthas the deathcoil focused build was super good, you could engage squishy people and kill them 1v1 I wouldn't bother with the questing talents that he has tho

dont really know what to say about hero league since tychus fucks every beefy tank up
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Any of yous want a good look at my axe?
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>>164592269

mewnfares is based.
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>>164593008
I find him very entertaining when he's on his good days, but he's too salty for my taste, the chillest streamer for hots that I've seen so far is horsepants

lauralania is pretty chill too and never flames people but she's silver league unfortunately
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>>164593339

Lauralania is literally a down to earth former stripper playing HotS. She is trashy, sometimes downright annoying, but she is fun. I would hang out with her, she is alright.
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>get on
>hear something from friends about free gold
>log in
>nothing


>>164593339
>lauralania
>3500 games
>silver
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>Vol'jin's channel bar says "Givin' em da axe..." during the short animation he does when casting Guillotine
Heh
In other news, it still isnt as strong as Heroic Mode Sulfuras Smash, even at 1% hp
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>>164594151
>>164594091
>People shitting on lauralania
>I got matched up with her once

I told you guys that I'm the worse player here
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>>164594281

I'm not shitting on her, I said she was alright. I mean, I wouldn't want her on my team if I want to compete (I'm on diamond) but if I just want to have fun, she is nice.

My favorite stream was when she was dead drunk speaking non-sense and betting real life money on matches. She has been an alcoholic though, that was a really bad day for her. In any case, yeah, again, she is fun to watch. Great streaming.
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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Don't care about the 600s queues he is pure fucking fun
>kael keep using pyroblast on me

kek
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Zul'Jin's kinda hot
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>>164594920
>spotlight literally shows him nullifying Pyroblast too
kek

>>164594960
maybe
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>>164594920

What talents did you pick? On paper the trait ones seem way stronger than buffing his abilities but i'm a shitter so what do i know.
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Are The Lost Vikings fine or do they need a buff?

Do people just not pick them because they're difficult?
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>>164595247

If the circumstances permit they're strong if not busted.

People don't play them because it's abundantly clear that you're awful, unlike almost every other Hero.
Might as well have a flashing "You're shit" in the middle of your screen if Erik spends 80% of the match dead.
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If Headhunter is going to stay on a 60s cooldown, assists need to count towards it's completion, that shit is not worth it.
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>>164595464

Isn't it Takedowns, though?

Also revealing the location of everybody on the enemy team globally is pretty okay for a 60s cd, lmao.
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>>164595247
They're one of the only heroes in the game that not only needs good player skill but good TEAM skill.
If your team can't play with TLV then you're fucked.
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>>164595216
The AA one (I wasnt able to finish it)
The reveal
Recklessness
Taz
Eye of ZJ (this one is crazy good)
Lacerate
Amanai resilance
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>>164595464
>>164595575
Assists count for completation.
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finally grubby is on :relieved:
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>>164594960
He is really really hot
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Is there a big difference between masters and diamond players?
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>>164595575
>>164596183
It does, yeah. Real weird, I don't know if I ran into a bug or what, but I didn't get credit for a kill when I should have.
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>playing greymane in Vs. AI on smurf to 5
>keep getting asked if the "buffs" made him viable

And hey, did they not reduce the price of any Heroes with this release?
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>>164597208

Yes, probably mostly because you can't place into Masters, unlike Diamond.
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>>164597208
like this much difference <-------->
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>>164597208

absolutely
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>>164597208
There's barely a difference between Plat and Master players, people fucking suck at this game all around, it's weird.
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>>164597428
is that a lot?
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>>164597208

Yeah, I personally found there was a massive spike in player skill/consistency after Diamond II or I.
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>>164597223
Effectively:
10% more HP that don't get hit by % damage
10% increased healing effects from all sources

It's good. Not sure if it's enough to push him back into the meta, but it helps him out a lot I think.
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STOP GOING IN ONE BY ONE YOU STUPID ASSHOLES
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>let my team down
>we lose
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>>164598057
But I'm Thrall! I can sustain!
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>TAAAAAAAAAAAAAZ'DINGOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>164598363
>Stim Zul'Jin
>He gets focused
>TAZ'DINGO
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So, uh, how do you guys choose between your Rs?

Army of the Dead or Sindragosa?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12030443
http://www.strawpoll.me/12030447

answer now please
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>>164598703
You have to make a decision between fun and winning, sometimes they can intersect, but mostly on maps like Braxis and Infernal Shrines
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>>164598703

>Army

Team has shit AOE / burst (basically never)

>Sindragosa

Every other situation.
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>clone Zuljin
>win
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>>164598790
>didn't log on prior to extended maintenance
>didn't get gold
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>two nukes
>lvl 19
>we do both top camps to push
>catapults already here
>we all go top to push the core
>webm related
fuck this game
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>>164599482
>had to head in early to work
>had to endure all the free gold posting
>Mfw I won't get it now that I'm on the way home

Is this what platinum mad feels like
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>>164599884
>exact center of the FUCKING GATE
>not between the fort/keep and gate

are these people autistic or just bots
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>>164598703
honestly always syndragosa

army of the dead feels more like a crux for when nobody fucking drafted a healer and most people know to fuck off from trying to focus you and go for your squishies anyway, might as well have a aoe slow/root that can set up for your team
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>>164599974
the center deal more damages
what's the point of dealing more damages to a fucking gate ? I don't know neither

I still don't understand why they went on those gates instead of nuking the core tho
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>>164599884
so its not just me?

what the FUCK is blizzard doing ? why is that elemental lion bugged? it only shows properly in the blue colour, ingame and in the selection menu
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>>164598790
>
what the fuck is this gold thing ?
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when does zuljin come out in eu?
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So I;m watching Grubby stream and even with a 4lvl advantage gullotine hits like shit.

>>164600559
tomorrow.
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How many time until the next hero announcement ? One week or two week after the release of zuljin ?
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>tfw misjudge how long the enemy's Taz'dingo will last
>die right before it ends
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>>164600630
2k (includes the 25% extra ability power) damage at level 16 with like 5% health remaining.

It does hit like a truck, but it's completely worthless unless you're at below 25~% Health.
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>>164600559
early morning, like 4 or 5 AM
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>have played 11 matches today
>still only 2/3 for "win 3 games" quest
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holy shit

Grubby doing voice overs giving me GOOSE BUMPS

dat nostalgia T_T
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>>164600272

some people got a free 10k gold today.
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>>164599884

>perfect time to win the game
>let's nuke anything except the core

This fills me with incredible rage. Thanks.
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>>164600630
Isn't it an execute? Doing more damage the lower they are, and stuff.


>>164601297
>some people

And they'll probably get to keep it. I'm slightly upset.
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>>164601364
He was pretty low on hp and he didn't even take a third of their hp bar.
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>>164601364

i already spent mine just in case
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>>164601417
Again, you need to be really low.
2k very long range nuke at like 5% HP is nothing to scoff at.
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How the fuck do trolls get anything done with just three fingers?
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>>164601526
Again, he was pretty low (less than 30%) and and picked the spell damage talent.
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>>164601585
And how that does make 2k damage less impressive?
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>>164601579
you only need three fingers to chuck axes and eat rocks
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>>164601717
>hit a lvl 10 heroe when he is 14 and low hp
>did shit damage

Just watch the replay it was less than 1k damage, I don;t know why you keep saying 2k.
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>>164601883
Because he did the same thing later on when he was level 16 and had lower health.
Try watching the latter part again, maybe?
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>>164602018
No.
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>>164601158
please get out
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>>164602078
Then don't bitch at me for correcting you.
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>>164602173
No.
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Why in the fuck is this dev team not concerned at all with Abathur being hot garbage and deadweight the vast majority of the time purely because he's TOO fucking comp reliant?

And why the FUCK did they nerf Anub's health pool? What is so wrong with him being sturdy? Yeah, magic armor, I get it, but still. What. The. Fuck.
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>we armor and mr now

is there any sort of in-game indicator for these
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>>164528787
can someone play some games with me vs ai? for the genji skin?
KyaPamPam#2673 EU
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>>164602760
Magic-/Armor you can only see during hero selection. Not even in stats after pressing "c".
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>>164601579
Are one of these three fingers an opposing thumb? If so that's all you need
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>>164602781
Anon... it's over. You can't get it anymore.

I'm sorry.
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>>164602781
>>164603393
get fucking rekt OW baby
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>>164603393
still shows up on my game
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>>164603662
just join the general chat and play with randoms
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I just noticed something.

This tint isn't in the game. His Master skin tints are his standard skin color, teal skin with orange hair, and deep forest green skin with dark green hair.

Did they fuck up, or is this a subtle hint at new tints coming?
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>>164603939
Forgot to add, this is from the end of his Spotlight video.
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>>164603939
i guess it is a hint about new tints, with all this talk about improved progression system
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>>164603939
They change stuff before release sometimes. Greymane's basic skin last tint also got changed between In Dev video and in-game. It used to be same as his master skin's last tint (blue clothes, brown hair).

Sometimes they even change it after release, like the time they just randomly changed Master Zeratul's last tint.
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>Raynor: Fixed an issue causing Hyperion to gain benefits from several of Raynor’s Basic Attack Talents.
>his winrate will be pretty much the same because it wasn't this bug that made him great, it was the meta
bronzies will never learn, lmao
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>>164605595
>two hours after the patch
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>>164605740
what is future tense
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>>164605740
>hyperion doing 20-40 extra damage is the reason raynor had the highest win rate in the game

lmao god bless you people i can't wait to see his play rate drop like a brick
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>>164606061
>sm
>fa
>gk

it was more than 20-40
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>>164606140
>s m h
>f a m
Go back to /v/ you nerd
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>>164606061
based goldie
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>>164606350
>master thanks to raynor and braindead bloodlust
so happy i won't have to play for the rest of the season
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>>164601356
I'm here for that.
But if it makes you feel better we still won because of the +2 level we had and the two camps and the catapults.
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>top team siege dmg, hero dmg and xp contribution as azmodan
>all because my team is a disorganized mess and we're losing hard
my soul hurts
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>Playing Medivh while hes free to level him
Hes an interesting guy. Definitely feels like if he was pushed just a little bit further, he would be incredibly strong, even in qm. Something like increased range on his Q, or a faster missle speed, or just more health.
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>>164605595
I'll give you Hyperion's damage not being the problem but it giving Raynor really fucking high uptime on Focused Attack was a big deal.

He's still gonna be good though.
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>>164606490
doesn't post proof
ayy lmao
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>>164607448

He doesn't need any of that. He's a high skill floor hero and can 1v1 most heroes in the game and is the best team play hero in the game without question.

He doesn't have any real issues outside of talent diversity and the fact that he's not eay to play, which is a good thing.
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Zul'jin is really fun
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>>164607646
you caught me i actually got stuck in silver hots is a difficult and complex game

>>164608054
yeah, he is
wonder what's going to happen with the free gold thing
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>>164608054
FUN AND good
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>>164607646
not him but he did carry me
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>>164608403
>smurfing on jimmy in a double tank meta
>when the most played tanks are artanis, diablo, muradin, johanna
come on now, what did you expect?
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>>164608403
yeah pretty much this

>>164608641
freelo

i'll occasionally get the urge to work on being less of a shitter but just lose the will to play then go back to one of the games all my friends play

>tfw overwatch friends didn't want to do the nexus challenge
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>>164582531
Not huge on Ranged Assassins and given my experience with Lunara, DOT is not my friend.
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>>164606292
you cant be serious right
holy shit hahahah
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>>164606292
sweet jesus i couldn't come up with this shit if i wanted to
>tfw you will never be as good a comedian as an actually mentally retarded person
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>>164610075
>>164609926
>roughly 90 seconds apart
Samefag
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>>164595440
Erik is by far the easiest to keep alive.
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>>164610305
nice try :-)
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>zul'jin level 1 AA talent stacks forever
>easy as fuck to stack

yes good
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Isn't Lava Wave better on two-lane maps, or have I got it wrong?
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>>164610305
continue embarrassing yourself please
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>>164612116
:)
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>>164612537
autism
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>>164612426
>>164612116
>posting three minutes apart now to try and trick me into thinking you're not the same person
Luckily I saw that the IP count did not change, and you ARE quite the faggot as I've proven here >>164612537.
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>TAZDINGO
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>>164612696
>trying to divert from the issue
I've exposed you, now own up to your faggotry and piss off forever.
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>>164612537
Try to get some life, mr. detective
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>>164612792
>tazdingo
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>>164612913
>still shitting up the thread with your absolutely worthless posts
Go home anytime you want.
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>>164612404

No. It's an exp soak tool, not a damage ult. You can use it for clutch defense damage, but anyone not retarded will move out.

Only two lane map that it's good on is Braxis
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>>164612404

lava wave is literally always better

>60 second CD
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>>164612735
>Being replied to by the same anon who was already in the thread
>Expecting the IP count to go up
???
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>play quickmatch
>team has no hard cc and enemy has Zul

Total horseshit match, he always got at least one kill before dying thanks to his ult in the important fights and post 20 he'd just stand there autoattacking and get over half his health back after killing 2 people.
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>>164612220
I was just playing vs a Rexxar on Dragon Shire, soloing Top Lane. Had the bonus from the quest in like 8 min
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>>164612537
you gotta go anon
im sorry but thats the only way
we have no need for autismos anymore in 2017
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>>164613257
Literally tryndamere
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>>164613156
By deduction on him already being a faggot, yes. The least he could have done is using a new IP to shitpost me, but he didn't put in that minimum of effort, so I caught the bitch redhanded.

>>164613306
>coming with the autism again
Idiocy at work. Don't be mad, you're anonymous, no one will care if you just drop the matter and post on topic in the future :)
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>>164580724
Damn, that moveset description is basically Dota 2 Huskar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bX-spW-EYg

Huskar basically does the same shit with a brief heal, sacrificing HP for increased autoattacks, and his aspd ramps up the more his HP gets closer to zero. Huskar was "balanced" in Dota by the fact that all his extra damage was magic damage, and he had no armour so a good stun + some autoattacks would just wreck him so he has basically been pubstomp trash for years now. Icefrog keeps throwing nerfs at him once in a while despite the 0% pick rate in comp because of how useless he is.

I'm still a Nexusbabby so I don't have any intuition or know the specifics of damage mechanics in HotS but from what little I played so far, stuns are super short, and a lot of ranged heroes like Raynor seem to be top tier right now so if his kit requires sustain from a dedicated healer or repeatedly bailing on fights to heal himself up like the video suggests, sounds like he's just going to stomp 1v1-me-sf-mid pubs but never make headway against autoattack trades. Depends on how much damage his berserking gives him I guess.
Though since you guys keep talking about how Auriel is top tier, he probably won't be lacking in heals.
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>>164613417
the original guys post was on topic
then you replied something completely off topic and embarrassed yourself so hard
besides, ill post what i want
:v)
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>>164613429
Up to 99% increased attack speed, i.e. double DPS, for up to 4 seconds where you can't die and are free to fuck someone up.
He's solid, and he's a better solo laner than Raynor on account of his heal having a way lower CD, and Raynor's early game, which is important for laning, being much worse.
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>>164613341
At least you can just kite Tryndamere til his ult runs out.
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>>164613257
>ranged tryndamere

lmao ty blizzard I've been waiting for this
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>>164613429
>Depends on how much damage his berserking gives him I guess.
That would be the case without his Taz'Dingo ult. If you're just trading blows with another ranged assasin they can win; but it he pops his ult he well...can't die
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>>164613886
I wonder how much of his kills post Taz'dingo come from his passive trait as opposed to just hey, look, I can't die for a good while.

I mean, I'd lose a lot of 1v1 fights against Raynor too if he could go unkillable near the end.

Knowing me, I'll take Taz dingo and die to a minion arrow or accidentally procing Berserk and AAing a wall.
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>>164614454
Berserk can't kill yourself, can it?
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>As expected, Zarya+Zul'jin stacks immediately gaying up Quick Play.

Blizzard please. I know how to deal with a berserker, but not a berserker dykebomb combination.
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>>164614454
>>164614645
His passive cant actually kill him
But minions arrows will
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>>164614703
>berserker dykebomb combination.
Tracer?
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>>164614703
thats a joke compared to zul + medivh
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>>164614832

>reabsorb+arcane explosion
>tazdingo
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>>164614832
Oh, you mean the free week Medivhs that do nothing of value to our zul'jin?
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>>164614832
>medivh
do not even try, faggot, do not even try
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>>164614970
no I mean the capable master medivhs that turn zul into an unstoppable killing machine
he even fixes his shitty mobility
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>>164613886
4 seconds is a long time in HotS I imagine but is it actually better than his giga nuke?

I feel like an unkillable status isn't good enough for a fight.

Either you never go down low enough for it to matter, or you go down low enough and then a stray projectile or DoT kills you immediately after the 4 seconds are up and you can be just as easily countered by enemy shields too like an enemy Medivh or Zarya. Once people get used to playing against him, they'll probably just instantly run off and come back after 4 seconds. It's not like he's Zarya or ETC where he can force people to stay in his range. Even if you try to combo them together in a draft, you just dedicated like 2-3 heroes to a meme draft that the enemy will see coming for miles and can counter-draft accordingly.

It feels a lot like a gimmick that depends on the enemy being more retarded than they should be (e.g. Zarya's shields when she's not just farming free energy from towers), which means Taz'Dingo will be wasted on any high or comp level game. But if that giga axe ult is a skill shot, sounds like something people can juke too. I'm going to be able to launch the game in a few minutes but ATM, I'm skeptical he's going to be as OP as people think.
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>>164615162

It'a a combo out build around, it's also the stronger solo ult.
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EU up when?
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Why would they take away shit like Mercenary Lord from Azmodan for all those All Shall Burn laser buffs?

Are they trying to make him a one-trick laser pony now? Fuck.
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>>164615162
I feel like the fact that he's very largely just an auto-attack hero with an OUT OF COMBAT self heal and no escape and shit, means he's not going to be OP unless his base stats prove to be absurdly too high.
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>>164615969
he literally got a better version of merc lord that doesn't require him to actually be there
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>>164615969
They nerf popular talents and buff less popular talents to diversify builds.

Problem wasn't Lazer build being shit it still is, it's that your Globe becomes utterly worthless if you don't talent for it.
The baseline movement speed will make Laser feel a bit better even if you don't build for it, and I'm happy with that as you could not ever do anything outside of sieging with it.
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>jungle to close to 1hp
>snipe people with nigga chop kky axe of le 2.2k damage
>rinse repeat every 45 seconds
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>>164616254
>I wanna play Chromie, except with bigger cooldowns :DDD
That's not what you should pick Guile for. It's for getting very fucking pesky heroes that can outrun you after they notice they'd die in a duel with you.
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>Both Zul'jins take guillotine
>Neither of them land a single one
Is there some issue with the skill? Isnt it just sulfuras smash? Just fucking aim at the other people.
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>>164616254
>jungle to close to 1HP
>get killed by an enemy because they have non-zero map awareness and know where you fucked off to for the past 30 seconds
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>>164616509
>azmodan
>throw q on a random camp
>zuljin killed
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>queue brawl
>get chromie
>completely butt destroy kids
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i can't fucking stand samuro
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That uninstall button is itching real bad right now.
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>>164617398
wow, you are bad
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>literally wipe my ass with every zuljin so far, playing zuljin
why are people so bad
>>
artanis is the most broken hero in the game
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>>164617464
People think hes just "right click: the hero" but much like Tryndamere, he points out the retards real quickly. Only this time his second ult is a little harder to use.
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now that the dust has settled, what do we think of Zul'jin?
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>play butcher
>zul'jin thinks he can 1v1 me
>we both stand around pounding on eachother until his ult ends and he dies

He'd be a special kind of stupidly op if he could've actually won that
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>>164617589
Hes being played by mouth breathing retards and he feels like a weaker Ragnaros to me.
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quick memes
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>>164617776
>only 55k hero dmg by the 20th minute
you think you're good?
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>>164617812
Nah I actually think he's pretty balanced right now. If he still had his old lategame survivability he would be OP but they did a good job tuning.
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I wish Abathur would be disabled in QM and HL.

I cannot stand playing with an Abathur. It's always such a fucking shitty experience.
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>>164617936
Yes.
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>>164617707
>more and more idiots in the game who underestimate the Butcher

yes
good
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>>164617776
>55k damage
>20 minutes
buddy I just got out of a ~15 minute braxis game with 90k damage and it wasn't even very crazy
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>>164618161
Cool I still don't know how to properly use the d.
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who is the next hero
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>>164618325
Valeera.
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>>164618325
Mephisto or Duriel.
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>>164618325
>Duriel laugh as the stinger in Zul'Jin's spotlight

gee I wonder who its gonna be
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>>164618325
Aidan/darkwanderer or malthael or stukov or mengsk
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>>164618430
>>164618558
>>164618627
>diablocucks

LOLOLOLOL never gonna happen

>>164618379
I can't wait!
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>>164618558
Wait what?
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>>164618325
your curiosity will be the death of you
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>>164618558

It's not some secret hero, it's fucking Zul'jin's laugh stop perpetuating this stupid MEME FUCKIN REEEEEEEEEEEE DIABLO 2 FAGS GET OUTTTTT
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>delusional diablocucks at it again
They said the same about the last 5 heroes.
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>>164619124
I really don't get what their problem is. Diablo just doesn't have enough real characters to put more of them in the game, they were already stretching it with Auriel. It's a meme franchise with no recognizable characters to put in a MOBA *and* nobody wants more Diablo in HotS. There's literally no need for more Diablo.
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>>164619124
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It's not Duriel. Samuro's and Ragnaros' spotlights both ended with a line/a growl belonging to themselves in the exact same part as this "Duriel" one is.

The growl is also nowhere near as deep as Duriel's voice used to be.

You fuckers will make me get hyped again for some Diablo II representation and you will be wrong again. It's not Duriel
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>>164617454
How do I git gud?
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>>164617398
Had a similar 7-8 loss streak with Alarak. Just need to tell yourself QM is as brainless as jacking off.
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>>164618748
The laugh at the end of the video sounds like Duriel
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>>164619308
Those are all characters they remember from a game which they came home to after being bullied all day at school to escape from all of it, empowering themselves in the diablo fantasy. Naturally since they were turbo-nerds they would dwell on insignificant bosses or NPCs with which they'd love to shit HOTS up.
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>>164619637
Isnt it the same laugh Zul'jin does at the home screen?
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LOOKING FOR BAAL?
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Why does Zul'jin's model look like 20x better than the last half dozen heroes?
>>
so am i just not supposed to play nova because everyone is a big fat warrior
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>>164619646
Eh, taking characters from Diablo isnt necessarily bad. They were able to make something out of Azmodan and Auriel.

At the very least it'd be a nice break from more WoW characters.
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>downloading patch
>it randomly gets stuck on different points during the download
>takes a few minutes for it to continue
What the fuck is wrong with this patcher, holy shit
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The honest truth is that HOTS would have been better off just being exclusively WoW characters (maybe the occasional Diablo character as a guest character)
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Is Invis on Medivh that good? I feel like insta killing minions solves one of his major problems more than a bad tyrande ult does.
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>>164621014
>implying wow has enough popular characters for that
They already added nobodies like lili and brightwing
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>>164621048

Invis is good if you're playing in a team otherwise it's a complete shitshow and people will just not understand you're giving them stealth.

I go with the instant clear
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>Tfw you love Diablo and WarCraft equally, so it's all fucking good in the hood except when it's a SC hero, then it's just boring.
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>>164621014
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Brawl is relaly fucking retarded.
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>>164621048

Arcane Brilliance is the best choice. Guardian of Trisifal is the losing talent.
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>>164620912
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>>164621431
Mana is useless though
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>>164621264
Brightwing was added to the game before Jaina or Thrall

She's a literally who character like Rehgar because they made a character and decided it didn't fit the lore so just put in a generic to fill the spot.

Also don't hate on lili she's cute
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>>164621014
If it has proven something is that adding a lot of Warcraft characters has not helped the game at all, may be WoW player are not interested in this genre or way to invested in LOL already
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>>164621264
Brightwing is a given name for the faerie dragon unit. Lili is honestly a mystery like ETC. Maybe she was popular because Pandaria was the current expansion at the time of her making.
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>>164621703
>Rehgar
>Literal who
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>>164621048
Pick Invis vs Tracer and Samuro. Fucks them over completely

Pick Guardian if their team has an Azmodan or some other hero that pushes really well(especially late game) and if your team can't counter that
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>I haven't played in a while, I think I'll play because ZUL'JIN
>Queue for QM
>5 stacks against solo queuers over and over and over

Oh right, that's why I stopped playing, again.
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>>164622835
>le 5 stack means so much meme
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>>164622835
I think they do this every patch to make sure games happen no matter one, the problem is that is backfires and people remember reasons why they quit.

Also brawl is hella retarded.
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God damn Zul'jin is always out of mana
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>>164623098
Only if you use regenerate. The mana cost of that thing is crazy high
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>>164622948
>le voice comms and ability to decide your entire group comp in a mode where the idea is you dont have any power over your comp dont matter at all meme

my sides are in orbit bro im kekking family thats so underrated lel!
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>heroes i have been hyped for
kaelthas
the butcher
leoric
rexxar
greymane
xul
guldan
samuro
varian
zuljin

>heroes that i have been hyped for and enjoyed
kaelthas
leoric
varian

>playing since
sylvanas release


blizzard never fail to disappoint!
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>>164624049
>he doesn't enjoy The Butcher

Pretty sure the problem is you
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>Told myself I wasn't going to buy the war bear bundle
>Bought the bundle
Fuck.
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>>164624489
Least you're not the guys who tried to force Lili and Sonya fetishes down everyone's throats.
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>>164624489
please get cancer
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>>164624049

>Doesn't enjoy Gul'dan Zul'jin Xul or butcher
>Enjoys Varian

I dunno man I think this one is just you

>>164624489

I'm telling myself it's an investment since I highly doubt they'll ever release a mount i care more about than the bear.
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>>164624608
Fuck you, war bear.
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>>164624489
i fell for the war bear meme, it's great
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>>164624615
>gul'dan
most powerful warlock in wow with shit tier abilities
>zul'jin
shitty parody of the voice from WC2. no wow voice, yet designed after wow look just with 2 hands
>xul
run around lanes woohoo gameplay :)))))))))))))0000000000000000
>butcher
run in and die WOW epic selfsustain O_O really cool character too bad unplayable in higher than plat
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Anyone else getting no xp?

I just did a QM and an AI game to test and came out with no xp at all
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>>164621048

It's really situational. Invis is good if you've got heroes that'd be great gankers like a butcher and is pretty much the most fun talent.

Arcane brilliance at the start of a fight if you've got mages for more damage, and a bit more healing from your support.

Guardian of Tirisfal is kinda a last resort. Its got a really bad winrate because people who take it are already losing. But that doesn't mean it's the wrong choice in those situations. If they've got core pressure and you need to kill those cats take it and kill those cats. But only take it as a last resort.
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>>164622948
>5 people in voice
>usually with something resembling an actual comp

Yeah, nah. It's definitely a bit of an advantage, especially in this game.
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>>164625016
and your opinion should be taken seriously because...?
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>>164625601

They're actually sort of spot-on, desu.
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>>164625016

Fair enough if that's why you don't like them but how do you find Varian or leoric more enjoyable. They feel dull as shit to me
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>>164625016
>enjoys Leoric

woohoo run around after you die so you can still be a burden on your team as a ghost LOL EPICK
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>>164625554
Way to think in a vacuum.
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>>164625016
So this is the face of those fucking QM Abathurs.
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>>164625016
Zul'jin looks like he did in WC2 you dipshit >>164580670
>Gul'dan with shit tier abilities
Lul
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>>164625715
you mean apart from the fact that they're all factually wrong and stupid
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>>164625993
The only shit ability Gul'dan has is rain of fire. But under the right circumstances it can work really well, but it pales in comparison to the CC fear has.
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>>164626334
They coulda made it Infernal
The game needs more Infernals
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>>164626437
They could be saving Infernals for a Dreadlord hero. Or another Warlock.
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>>164626592

Fuck now I want tychondrius with a shit load of summons and carrion swarm
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>>164626592
Dreadlords are just infinite jobbers. They were cool as hero's in WC3, but I dont want to see Mal'Ganis or Tichondrius added in just so they can be shitty.
They should give the power of Infernals to THIS handsome devil. And he can have Finger of Pain.
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What is it about crazy attack speed that is so satisfying? Why is it better than burst in terms of game feel?
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>>164626943
Burst is only really fun if its in massive amounts, like Pyroblast or Sulfuras Smash. Watching people melt is more attainable and just as fun as they panic when they realize just how fast theyre dying.
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>>164626943
I don't know about that.
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Haven't even played yet, but.
How long until tazdingo gets nerfed?
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>>164627156
Nigga just walk away
Or disable him before he even does it. Most people try to save it for the very last moment because it doesnt last long enough to do very well otherwise. Any disable will let you finish him off with no problems.
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>>164627156

Probably not long considering the amount of complaints their going to get.

>tryndamere ult
>in a game where people can't dodge a fucking lane of lava

Might see the duration reduced to 3 seconds from 4 and the CD increased, or something.
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>>164627156

never?
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I thought you were only supposed to buy Master skins if you were good at the character
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>>164625726
t. peaked on diamond
>>164625993
>Zul'jin looks like he did in WC2
die from cancer please
>>164625718
as varian you can own it up in different ways, most versatile hero so far, only thing that repeats is that you pick the stun talent
>>164625993
>>164626334
guldan should have been a hero that casts infernal meteors from across the map, doing his own shit while his minions (teammates) do the dirty jobs
instead 1 of the most powerful chars in wow is represented as a lvl 30 warlock

WOOHOO BLIZZARD))))))) LOVE UR GAME PLISS MAKE SOME MORE SKINS 4 ME)) PLZ MAKE MORE BEAR MOUNTS IN BUNDLES, GONNA BUY THEM *****KIsses u on the benis*******
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>>164628081
Gul'dan died like a bitch though in the first timeline. Its only when he got help from another fucking alternate timeline did he become even remotely a threat.
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God, fuck me. We were winning until the very first turn in at level ten and then we could not lose more badly.

It was stun fucking city with Dehaka and Rexxar and the polymorph and Silences ugh.

I wish I had someone to blame.
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>>164628216
He also die like a bitch in legion.
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>>164628081
unironically kill yourself with a glass shard enema in your asshole you waste of oxygen :3
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>>164628294
I havent gotten to that point yet but I assumed that would happen. You take away his minions and his power derived from dead gods and all youve got is a Warlock who was only ever good at manipulating other people.
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>>164628263
>QM
>bitching about CC when cleanse exists
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>>164628398
The ending of nighthold leaked a few months ago.
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>>164627912
what gave you that idea

>>164628263
just look at what you could've done better/differently regardless of the outcome of situations/games
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>>164628447
I just havent been paying much attention to Legion even though Im playing it. I'll get there eventually.
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>>164628081
>guldan should have been a hero that casts infernal meteors from across the map, doing his own shit while his minions (teammates) do the dirty jobs
>a shittier version of azmodan

lol don't quit your job anon.
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>>164628081
>Zul'jin looks like he did in WC2
>die from cancer please
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>>164628810
>showing a skin
wew lad
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>>164629043
>Moving the goalposts
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>>164629043

>being proven wrong so getting ass blasted on the internet
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>>164629073
>>164629098
WC2 intensifies

next time they make a hero "after WC2" you will show me a master / paid skin? because its on the same lvl as showing lvl 6 tints=non original looks. btw morales has an alliance shield :)))))))))))

zuljin is visually made after wow :) + zul'aman music and background from wow, master skin using the ability icon near his HP bar use troll elements that only appear in wow. xd

>trying to justify blizzards laziness and rapid decline in product quality

:)) dont forget to buy your amani bears blizzdrone fags
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>>164628416
I had cleanse. It was on cooldown constantly, not counting the times I got stunned.

>>164628454
Next time.
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>pick dota hero
>think of ways to make them garbage
>put that idea into hots
I wish I could work at Blizzard, seems like a real no-pressure workplace when you don't have to perform.
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>>164629635
>>164628081

The fuck? Are you the same anime avatar fag that was sperging at the game because it gave you a BRONZE ranking? GTFO of my general you piece of trash. Nothing but cringe from this dork, sheeeesh, even Lili posters are more bearable.
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>>164630293
that way they never have to worry about their "moba" underperforming
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>>164629635
>visually made after wow
>has two (2) arms

You can fool yourself but you can't fool me.
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>>164629635
>>164628081
>>164625016
I don't understand how anyone could possibly be this much of an invalid.

I hate so many of the people that post on this board. The fuck is with people, man.
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>>164630293

>be dota
>steal warcraft shit and make "original" game mode
>be blizzard
>make own game
>"LOL HOW PATHETIC U COPY DOTA HOW ORIGINAL WOW HAHAH EAT SHIT BLIZZARD"
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>Another ranged hero that's also a powerful duelist

Come on Blizzard you know nobody likes this stuff
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>>164631357
I do :v
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>Varian is on your team
>Varian takes twin blades when you already have two assassins and no warrior
>Varian states the obvious as if he's displaying some deep insight
>Varian feeds his dick off
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>>164630617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmndxoF74qQ#t=1m09s just before this moment
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Did they fuck up greymane's go for the throat ult?

Half the time I use it, the enemy takes 0 damage and it goes on cooldown.
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>>164631906
>Did they fuck up greymane's go for the throat ult?
They nerfed it 3 times.
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>>164631906

Nerfed it a ton. It's also coded to occasionally do...nothing? Blizzard spaghetti?

Sort of sad. I thought Greymane was the most fun Assassin to play back when his cocktail build was king.
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>>164631509
He doesnt spit on da horde though
Or seem to make any references to Zul'Aman
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who's that character you tried on rotation and didn't like very much, but then the next time they came on rotation you fell in love and considered dropping 10 burgers for a shitty skin because the owl hooting is cute?
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>>164632186
where do u americans get burger/1 dollar?
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>>164631415
>:v

south american cuck detected
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>>164632318
McDonalds
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>>164632370
:p
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>>164632318
>why are americans called amerifats?
100% of the amerifats I've met on exchange have no fucking clue how to cook because it's so cheap to eat at fast foods / diners

i mean literally have no idea how to cook, one retard bought an oven tray as a chopping board, and he was bitching that ikea has such shit quality cutting boards that they get scratched really badly after 2 weeks of use. the guy was studying physics and really good at it, he also thought the capital of finland was heleninsky. I have no idea what the fuck is going on in that country.

same in china with the food prices, but at least there you eat noodles and things that remotely resemble cooked food rather than burgers or chili con carne
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>enemy team has Zeratul AND Nova
>get pissed
>then I remember I'm Cool Jim with Headhunter
>reveal their tiny penises when they think they're being sneaky
>team murders them

the best part is that they never learned
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>>164622576
Where do you get this hueg official art from
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>>164621749
Li Li is a mildly notable NPC in MoP (where she appears with her uncle, Chen).

ETC is a tribute to the Warcraft-themed band made up of Blizzard employees, Elite Tauren Chieftain. There is also an ETC card in Hearthstone.
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>>164634836
Li Li is also a companion for monks in legion and a major part of the elemental shaman artifact quest.
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>>164631453
>Playing Zul'jin
>I'm mid lane with Zarya and Tyrande, I'm about 45% health
>Enemy Artanis is looming behind their 40% health Li-Ming, Butcher standing off to the side mounted.
>Clearing the wave, throwing axes at Li-Ming whenever I can
>Zarya shields me and herself, walks in to start auto-attacking Li-Ming who Blinks to safety, gets flipped by Artanis, almost dies, only survives thanks to Tyrande's stun.
>As she's hearthing says "Zuljin you need to fight when you are low health next time"

I am not playing this fucking game for a few more weeks, fuck this shit. I can't stand being matched with people like this, and against 5-stacks no less. Holy shit I just want to play Zul'jin.
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>>164635018
>>164635018

GIT GUD
I
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G
U
D
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>>164632150
It's a Zul'jin who hasn't seen the end of the ward or at least hasn't seen the aftermath of it. Might as well be Zul'jin DURING the war, despite the Spotlight making mention that the war was lost from his end.

And besides, the Horde DID leave a bad taste in his mouth after losing the war, but it was the fact that they accepted the Blood Elves into the Horde that really fucking pissed him off. THAT is the majority of his bitterness.
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>>164635210
He was bitter because the elves tortured and cucked his eye and arm but other forest troll don't give a fuck and joined the horde in hinterlands.
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what build is everyone using for zul?
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>>164636069
You want axe
AA speed/Reveal
Vicious assault
Taz
Eye of zuljin unless they have slows and roots then you go shuffle
Ferocity
Taz upgrade
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>Zul pops tazdingo
>Our lunara hits him once and leaves
>He dies off-screen
It happened about 4 times, I bet he was mad as fuck
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>>164636069
I always take headhunter because it's just so nice, and pretty easy to get unless you're getting shitstomped
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>>164636306
I'm honestly surprised they didn't give his 20 a sort of DoT cleanse. It seems like such a simple counter to his ult along with just, you know... stunning him.
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>inflict Blind on Illidan
>he misses his attacks
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>>164637373
how the fuck didnt i think about this before
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>>164637373
Didn't carbot make that joke a while ago?
Also is he still alive? last video I saw was the Sylvanas one
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>try guillotine out
Well that was fucking embarrassing. I'm at less than half hp and it doesn't even do a quarter of a brightwing's hp
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>>164638523
He's more than alive, he's wiping his ass with $100 bills
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>>164638530
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXRiRXnZ65k&feature=youtu.be
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>>164638523
He's started doing Overwatch stuff instead since no one gives a shit about HotS now.
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>>164638725
>quick match player didn't even try to move

I'm not impressed.
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>"zul gets more powerful the lower health he has"
>idiots playing him keep dying 4x more than the rest of the team combined
Move over, Illidan.
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>>164638791
>Has done maybe 3 Overwatch videos with huge gaps of time between them
>Since anon's last seen Sylvanas video, has done 6-7 HotS videos consistently at least one a month or so

I'd call you out on talking out of your ass, but I forgot that's a common trait on this stupid fucking hivemind of a board.

Fuck, every board is a hivemind, I hate everyone.

I need a nap or something, holy shit I'm irritable today.
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Jesus christ artanis is so fucking brainless
>WAAAAH CHAAAAAAAAAAAARGE QWER THROW EVERYTHING OUT HOPE IT HITS
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>>164639946
isn't he the least brainless right now though

he used to just get to level 20 then walk at your team and if you didn't apply ALL of the cc he'd 1v4 you

that shit hero was a mistake lmao
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Gee Ragnaros, how come Blizzard lets you have TWO defensive talents?
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>>164638523
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dehv-Kqeqs
This is a recent one, and is with best slut.
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>>164640080
I see Artanis every single game and they just smash the keyboard as soon as they see someone
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Explain why Tazdingo is on the same cooldown as mind control
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Zul`jin? really blizzard?

We've been asking for months for Reaper or Pharah, goddamit even another literally who from diablo would be fine but no, you wanted to literally troll us with a troll and you gave us zul`jin, not even a good troll like vol`jin.
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>>164641669
just as a reminder, this is what bait looks like hotsg. he will reply to this post denying it, but it's true. this man just wants replies.
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>>164641669
Noone cares about memewatch characters.
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>>164641669
>more overwatch

pls no
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>>164641669
>We've been asking for months for Reaper or Pharah

It's a general consensus that no one wants more overwatch shit on hots
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>>164641738
>>164641743
>>164641871
literally baited all of you up your gay buttholes
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>>164642007
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>>164642007
jokes on you, is was the one baiting you.
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>>164642479
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>be tychus
>20 minutes into the game
>my hero damage: 50k
>our jaina's hero damage: 21k
>all you can see in chat is jaina bitching about everyone
>she has 6 deaths
sure, people can be shit at video games
sure, people sometimes don't see it
there's no fucking reason to sperg out in chat 24/7 and call everyone retarded pieces of shit
i'd hammer this asshole's fingers so he can no longer touch a keyboard in his miserable life
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>>164643138
I hope you're not one of those guys who goes LOL 0-3 MALF
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So Zul'jin is countered by stuns pretty much. Does anyone feel like Taz'dingo should work while stunned/CC'd, or no? I can't tell.
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>>164644451
>this hero is countered by X
>hey guys do you think they should buff him so he no longer gets countered by X?
are you fucking daft?
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>>164644649
I just mean his more useful ult is countered by doing what straight up kills absolutely everyone in the game. Burst into stun. If it were usable while stunned, it would be a much more interesting interaction.

Again, you fucking stun and burst everything in this game, anyway. It does nothing to change up how you would approach him which is something they seemingly have been going for with their more recent heroes.
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>>164644451
Yeah, I'm curious to see how his stats are looking after the first week.

>>164644649
It's a possible change, but I think we're more likely to see an increase or decrease to duration. Perhaps a mini damage-over-time cleanse built into it, or the 20 upgrade.
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>>164615162
>Even if you try to combo them together in a draft, you just dedicated like 2-3 heroes to a meme draft that the enemy will see coming for miles and can counter-draft accordingly.
Like Thrall + Raygar?
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>the minigun has no trigger
how the fuck does he shoot
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>>164622576
>MAKE WAY FOR DA BAD GUY

I really don't understand why he refers to himself as the bad guy.
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>>164646539
The only thing I can think is that he says it ironically, as the more "cultured" races look down on all forest trolls, of which he is the warchief of.

As if to say "Here I am, that one big guy you shrug off as nothing but a savage incapable of rationa lthought."
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>>164646808
Think you're giving 2016+1 Activision Blizzard too much credit
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>>164621264
Dota has Puck and Blizzard felt like they needed to compete with it.
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>>164647136
... Yeah, probably.

Well, fuck man.
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Can someone name ONE (1) reason to play Nova over Zeratul?
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Imma buy mr perfect's bundle here. Is it worth buying Zul'jin for gold and then buy the bundle for real dosh? Got a 58k gold pile sitting around, was more curious on the discount
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>>164647875
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Aside from that, no. Nova, Gazlowe, Anub'arak forever doomed to the dumpster because Blizzard gives no fucks about them. Christ, they threw Anub a bit of a bone with the spell armor, then fucking nerfed his FUCKING HEALTH POOL.
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>>164647896
Nobody knows.

If you do go through with it, please tell us.
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>>164647875
Booty.
Global ult.
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>>164647939
Can't have a character devoted to CC in a casual game.

Makes normies mad.
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>>164647997
Went down fro 22.47euros to 14.98euros. Worth it!
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>>164647896
The bundle is at 15 bucks for me after buying Zul'jin with gold. So if you think the 5 bucks off is worth it, it's up to you.
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>>164648293
I guess I should have refreshed before I answered you.

I don't give a fuck about the skin, so I have to wait forever just to get the bear alone. Fuuuuck.
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reminder to report every faggot with amani war bear. pref for abusive chat, because blizz dont do anything about other reports
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Headhunter fucking sucks against Muradin. Faggot ass Dwarf never fucking dies.


BUT HEY, BETTER NERF ANUB'ARAK, BECAUSE HE WAS TOO GOOD AT SURVIVING, RIGHT?
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Why is everyone so fucking horrible about soaking? I can't not play something without wave clear or else nobody fucking will.
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>>164649573
>he doesn't have a tychus on the team
look at him and laugh
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>Troll's Blood with Forest Medicine

God it feels so good.
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How's good is the troll?
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>>164646539
Because he has a drinking problem and likes to do Crucifix Powerbombs
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>>164647595
Well the HotS team-devs are close to the source when it's about making characters after all.
We got the Warcraft 2 version of him instead of the Warchief of WoW.
Or how we got several heroes from their installment instead of just picking directly from the WoW storyline.
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Just got Samuro and he's really fun but I'm not sure what R I'm supposed to pick for a given situation. Is it just map dependant? Should I even bother trying to team fight if I take illusion master?
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>>164652680
Bladestorm if they have BW/Falstad/other big things you want Unstoppable for.
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>we just defended against a massive push with boss
>used 3 of our ults
>1 player down on each team, but they're all full HP and have their ults
>the camp right next to the lane is uncontested
>our diablo: HEY GUYS
>YOU KNOW WHAT IM GONNA DO?
>GUYS IM GONNA GO TAKE THAT CAMP, SURELY IT'S SAFE
>it wasn't safe
>we lost the game right there
so FUCKING ANNOYING when you lose because of ONE idiot doing this kind of shit
we were on even levels, bot and mid lanes were pushing far in our favor, all we had to do was not drop our spaghetti on this one thing
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Which is the least visible mount while invisible?

Hearthstone card?
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>>164652680
Bladestorm is amazing. The damage isn't that great, but mid game you'll be securing lots of kills that you couldn't get otherwise because of CC. Be careful btw and never double tap the button, it doesn't have any sort of protection.

Illusion Master can be great, but it's hard to use properly. Never pick it if enemies are shitting out AoE (never pick Samuro in that situation, btw). It's fun as hell to 1v1 an Artanis or Zeratul or Butcher and watch him try to find out which one is the real you, and when he finally finds out you just swap. It can also be useful to play mind games, like use your illusions, you+1 autoattack like mindless drones and have the other one walk around seemingly intelligent. They'll ignore you thinking you're just an illusion.

Thing is, this is all "maybe", while Bladestorm gives you a clear benefit at all times. It's what I pick for 99% of my games, unless we're really getting stomped and our only chance is the enemies using their burst on a decoy. Bladestorm won't do shit if the enemy team is 10 levels above you, sticks together and obliterates you in teamfights.
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>I've had two separate games where I have to actively remind my teammates to look at their talents because they've had three consecutive levels where they just haven't taken anything

Can someone explain why you would just not take talents for 4+ levels? Is this some secret tech that good players do? Because one of the people in particular was a colossal fucking retard so I don't buy it
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>>164653047
probably the goat type mount, it's the smallest
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>>164634930
>>164634836
Wasn't Li Li also a comic character?
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>>164653047
Mounts no longer have shimmer.
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zul'jin's home screen is the best one yet
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Yo hold the fuck up.
EU here, did they add this in? It sure as fuck wasn't in the original patchnotes for NA.
Why the fuck do they constantly nerf the tanks health?
Fucking Blizzard.
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>>164656095
And why is it different from the ingame stats?
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>>164656095
And what drove them to this in the first place?
>Arthas isn't all that good right now, so we're making him tankier against AA with baseline armor
>and we're also nerfing his health pool, so he's overall squishier because ability damage goes through unmitigated XDDD
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guys whats the current press to win build on ragnaros?
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>>164656534
Ragnaros is actually pretty versatile.
The only build I don't use is blast wave but I'm sure there's probably some comps it works with.
Learn to make judgements for yourself.
>Are you gonna be hitting people with your q a lot?
If yes, spec into that shit
>Are enemies harder to reach?
Build that rolly thing

>Is the map big?
get lava

>Do they have hammer?
Get smash
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I don't like this thrazh'dingo guy /hotsg/
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So all vulnerability abilities were replaced with armor reduction abilities.

But kinkybug has specifically magic armor. Which would imply normal armor is only for auto attacks.

Did they nerf the fuck out of vulnerability?
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>>164657586
No.
There's Spell Armor (Kinky), Physical Armor (Fartas), and Armor (Gaymane).
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>>164657586
There's 3 types of armor, Armor, Physical Armor & Magic Armor
Armor is basically the new name of Resistance, you just take less damage
Physical Armor is for mitigating auto-attacks
Magic Armor is for mitigating skill damage
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Why did they do this armor change and why only for 3 heroes?
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>>164658503
theyre trying it out, theres 3 armor types and they put each one on one of the heroes. my guess its gonna get implemented to more heroes and even talents in patches to come.
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Where's new thread?
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>>164659383
>>164659383
>>164659383
>>164659383
next
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>>164657575
How come? Not a fan of AA heroes?

He seems pretty fun. Though it is hard to focus him down without CC.
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>>164659410
I guess it's the lack of mobility that puts me off, he seems like a "higher risk/higher reward" version of Raynor
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