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Lurking edition

>What's new?
Zul'jin (the Warcraft version, not the WoW version) on PTR next week, release following week
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/zuljin/

https://youtu.be/XUhMCNzcUb0

https://youtu.be/sYIpkktbm68

>Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20407574/double-weekly-sale-dec-20-jan-3-2017-12-20-2016

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Where do I find you Valeera-worshipping faggots?
/join /vg/

>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20409787/silver-city-12-30-2016

>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20407399/12-20-2016

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

Got kicked for being AFK: >>164132808
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>literally dead edition
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noob question:
Apparently abathur's locusts can soak exp. It does not say this anywhere except in places other people have asked about this. No wikis or official blizzard sites explicitly tell you this. What's up with that, that kind of information should be pretty important
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>>164325318
Only if they kill.
Like every damaging skill in the game, if it kills a creep, it soaks XP.
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>>164325318

Only if they last hit the minion, making it unreliable.

Something worth thinking about (sort of) is Azmodan's Q instantly clearing a wave from more than a lane away. Like, put your big body in mid on Tomb and Alt+R then Q top or bottom. D the one that's least likely to be contested for hella pressure.
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what do her feet taste like??
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dead
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>Pick murky
>5 last game, always a tracer against me

This shit is rigged
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>>164327512
>ming in every game
>tychus meta
>tracer popular
>at least he still has his stun
>they nerf it so it breaks on death
>no compensation buffs
>even fucking minions kill the puffer
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>>164326492
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Man, a whole month stimpack? I guess now's the time to get some masterskins.
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>>164327741
>lilifags such wankers they can't even manipulate images properly
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>QM with tychus for a few games
>either one tank or none at all every game
>queue with chromie
>enemy has chogall
Fuck this matchmaking
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did they gave any hint about the next heroes like they did for li ming and xul (picture with necromancer dagger, etc.) ?
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>>164328176

10,000 years in mspaint, sry for poor quality
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Will he be the best husbando of this game?
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>>164330152
Some nignog troll with axes
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>>164330152

Hints as to who we'll be getting after Zul'jin? Nope.

>another warcraft assassin pls
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>>164331786
if you enjoy cannibalism, voodoo magic and mojo aka. bottled troll sweat, he's all yours
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>game starts
>raynor instantly disconnects
>jaina disconnects 3 minutes into the game
Atleast the enemy team had a decent push team so it ended in 10 minutes while I ran around the core with two bots after me
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I hate you. I hate you all.
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>>164333076
>no remake option

Whew. It'd probably lead to toxicity, which this game doesn't have. :-)
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>>164333098
>arms 10x the size of the head
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>top healer card as medivh
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Release schecule for new heroes is as follows:

Dark Wanderer
Rakanishu
Valeera
D.Va

All things are possible in the Nexus
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>>164330152

from leakchan Axototl months ago
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>>164333437
Why would you lie?
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>>164333614
>there's hope

>>164333437
>Dark Wanderer
>Rakanishu

Oh, those are two I haven't heard of.

Diablo?
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who wins?
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>>164333721
Dark Wanderer is Aidan. He's Leoric's son who becomes the host of Diablo at the end of 1 and the guy you are chasing in Diablo 2.
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>>164333721
Seem like it, also
>Search Dark Wanderer on google
>First link is to a cuckold fetish site.
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>>164333962
Beyblade Sonya.
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>>164333962
>thrall and rehgar on the same team
was there any question?
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>>164333968

Ahh, okay. Neat.

>>164333973

And that's why I asked.

>>164333962

My little heart hopes somehow Red pulls a victory.
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>>164333962
>raynor thought he was going to have an enjoyable ranked experience
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>>164333962
2 of the people on red are incapable of even fighting how did they think that was remotely an okay idea
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>>164333962
>watching horsepants
>that fucking empty donation bar

lmao
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Clue me in on Dark Wanderer. What will he play like.
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>install HotS
>play placement matches
>uninstall
Holy fuck that Artanis rework is weird. See you in season 4.
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>>164334616

He's good now, sorry you can't handle playing with the big boys.
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>>164333228
>arms
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>>164334246

rip
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>>164334616
Gotta make some heroes OP so the retards can have a chance at winning too
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>>164334889
Yes, it is an arm, anon. Blind?
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>>164334509
He'll wander around and leave demons in his wake. Struggle to stand and drop his sword while grabbing his head and get a bald old man to follow him around to narrate him.

His ult will be becoming Diablo who is already in the game.
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

Happy New Year, guys.
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>>164334985
He's greentexting you because you said plural when Zul'jin at that point only had one arm. He cut it off to escape the Elves.
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>>164333228
Welcome to Forest Trolls mothafuckaaaaaaaaaaa.

WE JACKED.
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>>164334509

He's the warrior class from Diablo 1.
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>>164335291
Yeah but if they call him the Dark Wanderer he'd be from Diablo 2 not Diablo 1.
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>>164335363

Yeah but if they don't then I'd be right and you'd be wrong.
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>dude takes plant on garden map
>smacks the building disabling plant in middle of the lane because we were fighting the enemy there
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>>164335704
But would you use my body to get to the top? If so I couldn't stop no matter who you were.
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>>164335036
happy new year, best anon
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>>164335774
The amount of people who dont know how to use that thing...
You just jump in and push for your life because thats all youre good for. Whats so hard to understand about that?
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>>164335983

>"use it to defend"
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>garden map
>enemy team has chogall
>I'm on tychus
>my team is so fucking retarded I stop playing 10 minutes in
Fuckheads didn't deserve a carry, if it was even possible
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>>164336329

>still blames team despite being the sole reason you lost

big man, taught them a lesson for sure you did
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>>164336218
>go defend
>pathetically lose fort
>"wtf l2p noob"
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>>164336218
When your behind and they could win, yes you use it to defend.
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I did it! I beat the 36 death meme!
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>>164336881
>Jazz

I have a Jazz on my friend list as well. Wonder if it's the same person.
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>>164336881

You probably made that Abathur pretty happy.

Doesn't this stuff get you banned now, though?

>>164337005
>tfw knew somebody in wow named jazz
>small world
>wonder if same person
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>>164333614
>stukov
>varimathras
>baal
>vashj
I want this so bad. How dick at blizzard do You have to suck to get these added?
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>>164336487
>implying the retards wouldn't have thrown the game even if I tried to win
I don't bother trying if nobody else is
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>>164333098
Good, i can relate to that.
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>>164333614
this is bullshit, where is Valeera?
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From the latest axolotl leak we got a list of possible heroes (see https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/username/Axolotl/)

Next heroes should be easy to predict.
>blizzard is celebrating Diablo 20th anniversary in january with events in every game and a brawl in hots
>latest heroes are from warcraft (4), overwatch and starcraft.
>latest hero from Diablo is auriel and befeore it was xul
so the choices are : Imperius, Baal, Deckard Cain, Belial, Ghom, Cydaea, Aidan
Malthael wasn't on the list but was leaked during the samuro patch.
Since we didn't get a lot of Diablo heroes, we can expect two Diablo heroes.

>deckard cain
Nope. They asked the community for ideas, they don't know how to create it in hots.
>Baal
Too good to be true
>Malthael
They probably started to try it, but I doubt it will be added soon.

>Aidan
>diablo warrior
>dark wanderer of diablo 2
He will be next, that's for sure. Now the question is more will it be a warrior or a dark wanderer (warrior or some kind of specialist)


The second one will be Ghom or Cydaea.
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Did I finally tank my MMR in such a way that the enemy team is bad but my team is manageable?

Like, this is amazing. I haven't had a bad game in so long.
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>>164339264
Valeera isn't on that list, that's from Axolotl's leaks months ago. An anon (Don't know if it was Axolotl or another Blizzard employee, but somebody who frequents this place has some inside scoops) leaked what was going to be revealed at Blizzcon about 24 hours before Blizzcon happened this year, and he said he suspected Zul'jin and Valeera to be announced as well, but he specifically said he doesn't know for sure if they will, and he isn't sure about how finished Valeera is.

So considering he was confident she would be revealed, but wasn't sure how finished she is, suggests she's mostly done and playable.
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How can a character so great come from a game so shitty?
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>>164340847
what are u
casuel?
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>tfw playing unranked draft and picking Abathur every game
>afk at keeps watching anime all game long
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>>164341191
Damn, maybe I should buy Abathur.
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>>164341191
>one person points out that you're actually AFK
>all three other players flame the shit out of them saying they're too bronze to understand how abathur works
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>>164341942
People just spam pings on me all passive aggressive. It's almost like they don't know you can actually chat in this game
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>>164327512
I know that pain
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>>164335145
Depends on the time period, faggot. You think he was born with one arm? Noob.
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>>164327512
>pick Sarge
>entire enemy team is made up of heroes that can rape me from off screen and/or chase me into hell to finish me off
>the second I show myself on the map they form a 5 man rape squad out for my head

every fucking time
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>>164333389
>MVP as Medivh
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Who will win?

This is unranked draft btw
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>>164340094
I remember the anon post and everything he said has happened except for Valeera, so I would say it's ok to assume she's next, except because it would be the 5th Warcraft hero in a row and that would piss people off.

That list seems weird though, I don't see them making Deckard Cain and I guess with Deathwing they are hitting a similar problem than they faced with Ragnaros about making him feel like a true boss. They also answered a question about Alleria and it didn't sound like she's coming anytime soon. Also Varian and a few others are missing
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>>164343243
In that picture he's only showing one arm retard. I guess if your bronze at hots you might as well be bronze at everything else in life.
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Hero league is fucking trash. I can't believe Blizzard gates rewards behind this garbage.
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>>164333098
>Remake Zul'Aman
>Keep every fucking boss except Zul'jin
Fucking blizzard man, I swear. Here's hoping the inevitable Zandalari raid will have them rezzing every notable troll leader Thunder king style.
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>>164343517
>every humanoid in every drawing/picture/image ever has to show both arms
lamoing
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>>164340847
>Make your character look like Darth Vader
>Get John de Lancie to give him a sarcastic, but menacing voice

Making likable characters in a MOBA really isn't that hard.
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>>164344558
>Doesn't recognize what it's based off of.

Based Bronzie.
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>>164344646
Now in that picture it's obvious he's circumsized. The other one it isn't.

>he does it for free
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>>164344710
>You can see the stump at the top of the picture.
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>>164344838
Baited hard.

But sadly I need to explain to your bronze reading skills. They were talking about the size of the arm. Context, anon. Learn it.
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>>164344838
>anon talking about size of arms
>you bring up irrelevant MUH LORE shit
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>>164344927
No the first guy greentexted because the guy said arms, instead of arm. Then Bronzie came in and said you don't know what time period he's from in that picture.

Go be bronze somewhere else please.
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>>164345059
>getting trolled this hard
is your new year's to try out 4chan?
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>>164345034
Oh god the Bronze is spreading.
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>>164345150
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>>164345331
>get called out
>spams bronze and reaction image
One of the most obvious signs of defeat.
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>>164345498
Called out on what? Being right?
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>>164345498
Trollgays are that delusional. Any critique over "m-muh husbando! ;_;" is just shit-post central--as the samefag above has proven over and over. I can't wait for Draeneifags to be in full-force later.
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>>164333437
Dark Wanderer would be neat, but why would you do that? It's just Diablo in Aidan's body. It just seems really fucking weird to have two Diablos in the game.

Rakanishu I've been thinking about for a long time, I'd be so fucking happy to ahve Rakanishu in this game.

The only Rogue I want is Moroes, and D.Va is just whatever.
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>>164345654
Not Edwin? Or Shaw?
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>>164345618
I'm not a Draeneifag, but Velen or Maraad would be decent

>decide to browse the hots forum for some unknown reason
>someone suggested Maraad
>someone else said he was lame and his moveset should be given to Yrel because "she's cute"

I don't even care about Maraad too much but that got me
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>>164345982
I used to want Edwin, until I realized if we're going to get any VanCleef it's probably just going to be Vanessa, whom I don't give a shit about. So I assume that will never ever happen.

Moroes has the whole Forsaken thing going for him, so there's hope.

I honestly feel like Mathias is easily overlooked in favor of more well known Rogues, I just don't think he's got any chance. I hadn't thought of him though, that'd be a great pull, and honestly would be great if he were even brought up in the hero design crew room.
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>>164341191
shut up gucci
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What's the point of unranked draft when it's the same shitters as in QM?
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>>164347325
People are the same across all game modes, anon.
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>>164347427
This, there are morons in every gamemode and I'm sick of it. Solo queue is a nightmare.
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>>164347325
higher chance of having a team comp thats not instant lose better (granted your team can draft)
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>>164346343
Male Draenei look cool in everything except in wow in game models, so it’s no mystery the females are way more popular they look good in game not mentioning they are quite sexy
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>get boss
>rightclick core
>activate bloodlust
>win game

great meta blizz
pls nerf virtually everyone in t1 right now
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Who has the best poke quotes in the game?

Be careful, there is only one right answer.
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>>164349673

Alarak
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>>164349673
cho'gall
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Vikings rework/buffs when?
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>>164351620
>vikings
>buffed

pls no let that cancer remain map-specific
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>>164340847
lol u probs play on easy
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What's the quickest way to earn gold?
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>>164353549
Playing the game. Amazing, isn't it?
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>>164353549
do all the tutorials (does it still give gold? idk)
get heroes to level 5
do weekly brawl
do dailies
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>>164353549
Daily quests, weekly brawls, grind lv 1 heroes to lv 5, and then grind them to lv 9 after they're all lv 5.

Even if you manage to shit out a bot win every 5 minutes (including queue and loading times), that's 25 gold (with a stim) * 12 times an hour, aka. 300 gold per hour. Gonna take you 3-4 hours of straight grinding for 1k gold, 30-40 hours for one 10k hero.

It's just not worth the time past the dailies for gold grinding.
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>>164353549

After you've done all the quick and easy fixes?

>tutorial
>brawl
>dailies
>heroes to 5 and 9

Your best bet to actually grinding it would probably be grabbing a stim then just smashing out bots games in 2-4 minutes.

>sylvanas
>hammer

Or just join any of those Genji speedrun groups and leech off them.
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Fuck, that reminds me. I forgot to grind this week's f2p rotation to lv 5.
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I started a game of Torchlight for the first time since High School. I named my Vanquisher Valla for you guys.
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PLSNOKILL
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>>164354954
I just remembered I have Diablo II on my computer and never got past the first 20 minutes so now I'm reliving Xul's glory days
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Futanari Sonya skin when?
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>>164359627
Team comp doesn't mean shit if one team is awful. Is of no surprise that the person who blocks out names doesn't know this.
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>>164359627
>against the odds
>chromie
>aram
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>>164359627

>medivh almost blocked as much damage as Auriel healed

jesus christ what a shitshow
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>>164360354
>almost as much
>69.5% of it is "almost"
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>>164360783

It's closer to "as much" than it is "not even close"
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>>164361196
That doesn't mean it's "almost", anon. C'mon step it up.

>y is closer to nearly than nowhere-near, therefore the use of "exact" is correct despite it not being exact is applicable
No.
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>Be Alarak
>Every fight enemy Kael Pyroblasts me
>Every fight I counterstrike it

I was the only person on my team that could go invulnerable and he just kept going for it. Why are people so scrubby.
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>get new hero
>go to qm to practice
>put against championship finals tier comps
>enemy team really good
>get shit on for 20 drawn out minutes
>literally every game until I'm L5

why dos blizerd do tis to me
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>>164363071
Supposedly the matchmaking queue for brand new heroes is a little messed up just so queue times aren't so ridiculously long for that player. If you're playing a new hero anywhere near it's release, your queue is given much looser rules, and as such you'll get put against 5-stacks, no Warrior or Support teams, and lower level (Or much higher level) players much more often than you normally would.
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>my gfs laptop is open on the coffee table
>she also plays hots
>HL, retard on the enemy team picks nova instead of the warrior they needed
>can't whisper people during draft, nice one blizzshit
>whisper from gf's account
>gg ez nice pick
>he gets anally blasted
>gf comes back, starts bantering with him during the game
>he spends the game replying to her
ayyy lmao
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diamond sure is trash
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Why oh why did they have to put gaz in part of the 30 game friend reward....
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>>164363932
>no all chat
>can whisper everybody on the enemy team immediately after a match
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>>164364158

They didn't.
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>>164364248
no all chat is so nice though
i wish they removed it in dota and league too
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>>164364158
yeah that's why I had to buy him after getting it huh
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>>164364396
>optional things are bad
Okay, I guess.

>>164364076
Is it still?
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>>164364396
(3 minutes into the game)
[All] retard: gg easy
[All] retard: bot lost
[All] retard: our jungler is afk

OR

[All] retard: hahaahahahahaha
(2 minutes later)
[All] retard: hahahahahahaa nice try
(1 minute later)
[All] retard: GET BTFO BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII HAHAHAH
[All] retard: nice flash

we sure are missing out on a lot
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What is this? Any point to doing it? I guess I missed it when they introduced it
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>>164365034

get some free shit
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>>164364939
Thankfully you're able to disable All Chat in League.

Not unlike how you're able (and encouraged) to disable any/all Allied Chat in Heroes. :3c

>>164365034
What, the tutorial? There's 1000g for finishing the Valla/Zeratul one, I think.

Something about a free Tyrande, Muradin or Jaina but I think the account has to be a low level.
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>>164364472
>>164364367
nmf you're retarded
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>just got in draft
>"add to me fr list"
>"need 25% xp"
>"i need win to play ur best"
how do you add someone to the french list? it's the Block Communication button, right?
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This is a fun game with totally balanced matchmaking. Yep. I love being paired with people who clearly have never, ever played their hero and have very obvious issues with basic character control. (And possibly visual impairment) This is further supported when my nova is farming a lane during an objective teamfight to "soak xp" while the enemy nova has a master skin in a 4 man premade. I had so much fun trying this hero out, I will be sure to return to quick match again very soon.
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>>164365389

>I love being paired with people who clearly have never, ever played their hero and have very obvious issues with basic character control. (And possibly visual impairment)

Projection at it's finest
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>>164365480
???

(You) is this what you want?
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>>164365195
What.

>>164365389
Yeah, that's Quick Match. Bumped into a top 10 GM Cho'gall on a random shitter vulture account just messing around on Gazlowe.

I'd recommend just turning off your brain and/or just using it to practice hero mechanics Vs. actual players or to try out talents, or something.
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>5 dead for 40+ sec
>naked core
>3 alive
>LETS DO CAMPS GUYS
>lose game

again, diamond is FUCKING TRASH
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>call someone faggot
>instantly silenced
nice system blizz
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>>164365706
Every league is trash. I still don't get why people chase the non-existent carrot.
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>>164365792

>constantly negative
>upset when people mute/report you

wow the nerve of some people
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>>164365706
What is it about the core that the average numpty finds so frightening? You can literally 5 man that shit before level 10, yet I will be in scenarios you described constantly.
>Guys, we're only level 18, and there's 4 of us and 1 of them. We can't possibly take the core with only two lanes of creeps supporting us! They have one guy!
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>>164365797

Mount reward
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>>164365853
i constantly call people retards in-game, without any consequences
i call someone a faggot and i literally get an email 2 seconds later
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>>164365953

the last straw m8

don't start blaming pc culture or sjws cuckboy it's your fault
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>>164365953
I told someone "fuck you" earlier.

I feel really bad. Wish I could apologize. In my defense, he was just running at the enemy team alone and dying over and over. No, it wasn't murky.
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>>164365861
>4 enemies dead
>we're at full HP, core is open
>uther is the only enemy alive
>camps... ALL THE CAMPS (except boss ofc)
you don't fuck with uther
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>>164365797
Mount with armor. Cute crown icon.
I don't really think it's worth the effort, though.

>don't have the will to begin placements, let alone finish them.
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>>164366073
>he thinks it's ok for murky to die
retard spotted
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>>164366214
i've played the game for less than a month and i got placed in d3
how hard can it be
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>>164366246
I think Murky players should die irl.
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>>164366354

Oh, it isn't.

Mostly just the will to queue another match, which I lost a while ago.

Might check back in a few Hero releases or whenever they come out with that "Loot" thing.
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>>164366214
>>164365936
Placements are 10 games. A lot of the time I've seen people complain about ranked/HL/matchmaking etc are playing far more than the placements.

And this season is the season I stop giving a shit about placements. This game is just terrible to take 'seriously' at all. I'm not an asshole or feeder in-game. But I'll be damned if I care or think about every pub player's stupidity all of the time. Too stressful.
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>>164366246
Where did I say that? I said it wasn't murky so I wouldn't have someone go LOL MURKY DOESN'T COUNT FAG. Who are you idiots who jump down peoples throats over anything?
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>>164366978
>gets called out on the intenter
>time to get super defensive
would you make anyone other than yourself proud right now, anon?
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>Meanwhile in Genji bot land

I'm really liking Xul though. I'm still new so I didn't really know how he worked in-game - except that an enemy Xul threw out a scythe one in a while that usually missed because the direction and position is telegraphed so obviously - until I tried him out this week.

Do his skeleton warriors get better in the late game? Early game talents seem to do nothing for them (and more just give him sustain instead in exchange for skill upgrades) and the frost mage ult seems extra situational, though a one-time poison DoT burst doesn't seem that much better when apparently the meta involves a lot of Raynor and fatties like Diablo, at least from what I can tell from the past few threads.
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>>164368107
Xul has the best waveclear in the game at level 1, so he's best on maps where there are two lanes relatively close together so he can double soak them. You typically take the skeleton heal at 7 so you can just clear waves forever without backing.

Mages is usually the better ult, but poison nova is good against a lot of melee.
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>>164368107
>solarpletex

I can't escape you, no matter where I go.

Xul's pretty fun though. He can be pretty sustainable just by clearing waves with Trangoul and Rathmas

Though the skeletons don't really get super crazy unless you invest in their explosion talent and I guess you could theoretically take the one that makes you able to have 6 and make them do more damage but the issue with that is you lose Amplify Damage and putting vulnerability on someone almost always makes it the best talent to take for that tier.

Though Flowing Wounds makes the Q build actually sorta work.

I don't know I've never seen a straight up skeleton build, they're mostly just a nice little bonus that lets you soak some more XP.and the aforementioned sustain.

It's all really dependent on map and comp, maybe you want a teamfight build since investing in a push build is going to get your asshole cleaved apart by Butcher or Illidan or whoever
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>>164333614
>No Fenix
I seriously don't understand this. How fucking incompetent does Blizzard have to be not to put in one of the main characters from one of their most successful games?
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>>164333614
MAN AM I PISSED AT THIS
>fucking GHOM
>the fat literal who
>the one boss that no one gives a shit about because he just farts and dies without doing anything interesting
>oh right sorry he can summon some little oozes that you can safely ignore
>NO KEL'THUZAD
fucking why
WHY
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>>164376339
Blizz said they prioritize fun gameplay niche over brand. That's why we got literal who's Lunaa and Greymane last year. Maybe they had some cool ideas for mechanics that fit Ghom, whoever he is (dunno, don't care for Diablo). Besides, the listdoesn't mean shit. It's so long, some of those names are probably ideas for 2-3 skills that at any point in developement can change into completely different hero. Li-Ming's skillset evolved like 5 times and was originally planned for IIRC Alleria or Shandris. They originally wanted some mobile chick hero with fast skillshots and thought of an elven archer, only halfway through changing her for Diablo wizard.
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>>164377696
>Greymane
>Literal who
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>>164375031
Calm down, you people don't actually think those are all the heroes they will release and then stop making heroes, do you?
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Reminder that we're being scammed by Blizzard by not allowing us to switch regions and keep our content. All your unlocks, real money purchases, match history, hero/account level and gold WILL NOT go with you if you ever travel or decide to move to a different continent.

This picture shows how a game who cares about its consumers should do stuff. Blizzard's way is unacceptable.
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>>164365853
You get muted after a number of reports, all those people you called retard reported you, and the faggot was the last one needed
>>
What talents to take on Nova?
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>>164378039
>Valve
>caring about consumers
Apparently Blizzard would've liked to just make everyone sit on one global region and then hide which servers they're playing on at any time but shit like Chinese interference and EU regulations make it impossible for them so they just said fuckit and assigned "isolated" regions.

It's why NA + AUS + SEA are all in the same region while China fucks off by itself, and the EU pretends they're special.

I'm sure somebody made some arbitrary decision on how this was to be implemented internally several years ago that we all have to suffer for now.

And look at Valve, because China isn't separated from the rest of the normal Dota 2 players, they have to bend over backwards to their whims - like killing off Leoric - just to appease the Chinese overlords, and Japanese and Korean Dota interest is STILL non-existent because Valve just treats all of Asia as "China" and "not China" and just wrote them off as South Riot and Console Islands.

It's less of a scam and more of a "Haha this is why we can't have nice things" deal.
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>>164378039
>he wants BRs and Russians on his team at the same time
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>>164378801
Picture is Leoric in China, looks the same to me

>EU regulations make it impossible for them
>Every other gaming company can do it
>EU has special rules for Blizzard
Ok
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>>164379120
EU is a privacy and censorship utopia with every member country having an opinion on how a multinational company should cater to them.

You have to make a separate service for the region for that, not just because of the geographical distance between continents.
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>>164379259
Again, it only works this way for Blizzard games, except Overwatch, because they're the cool kids.

Even riot, one of the worst gaming companies out there, allows to switch your account between EU and NA (for a fee, but it's better than what we have), so I don't buy that regulation crap.
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>>164378801
>>164379259
Time for you to point out the exact regulations that would somehow do this to Blizzard
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https://eu.battle.net/forums/pl/heroes/topic/17614585097
>Hi all welcome in the new year!
>New update to the Heroes of the Storm introductory Nexus first troll will go into the game as early as this week!
>Keep in mind, however, that due to the holiday period will be postponed by one day and will start on Thursday at. 2:00 AM Polish time. The planned duration of the maintenance interval is two hours.
>Subsequent updates will revert to standard time, and scheduled to be available on Wednesdays in the morning.
>Thank you for your patience.
>Regards!
no ptr? :O
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>enemy team: artanis, sonya, tychus, malfurion, nova
>our team: raynor, guldan, johanna, sylvanas
>the fucking retard that was supposed to play support picks li li
>wew shocking her healing can't keep up
>b-but my blinds
>they banned rehgar
yeah and then HOTS ran out of supports, holy shit
fucking retards in HL
god fucking damn it
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>>164380284
kup teraz
>>
>braxis hold
>we get a 100% zerg wave
>our gazlowe goes on the other lane to solo push
>just before the teamfight starts our ETC stage dives on the other lane to help gazlowe
>fort had 10% hp at this point
>top fort remained untouched because we didnt have a fucking tank with us
>"why go 4 top when all enemies are top????"
i knew we'd lose then and there
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>>164377883
Hey, I love Greymane, but you know what I meant. He wasn't literally literal who, but no one expected to be of any high priority to be added ever. But they did and I couldn't be more happy with it.
>>
is Uther worth buying? I love paladin
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>>164382791
uther is pretty bad right now
he could have a niche in burst healing but long cooldowns and high mana costs minimise his efficiency significantly
wait for an inevitable rework
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>>164382891
I'm also new to the game and MOBA are there healer class in this game?
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>>164382952
any hero with the "support" label on them generally supports allies, usually by healing and doing other stuff to aid the team
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>>164383001
Thank you
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>You were dropped!

what is this shite
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>>164383117
Ask your dad.
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>silver 1
>hotslogs says my mmr is platinum
explain
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WE WUZ AMANI N SHIT
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>"b-but Varian is just like Sonya but better"
>win literally every duel with vs a Varian except Prot because he doesn't take damage at all
>better waveclear
>better jungle
>better shout when jumping
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>>164383427
I SHIT ON DA HORDE N SHIT
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>>164383405
everything below masters is bronze anyway
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>>164384189
Who are you quoting?
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>>164384431
/hotsg/ and reddit
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>want to play specialist
>matchmaker matches me into teams with no healers/tanks
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>Tychus can press D to make his attacks deal 2% max HP damage to his target
>meanwhile Zul'jin can press D to make his attacks deal 2% max HP damage TO HIMSELF
>mfw Warcraft cucks will defend this
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whos ready for a week of bronzies running into team fights with TAZDINGO!!! over their heads and immediately dying after it wears off??
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>Enemy team is cursed
>everyone on my team wants to do camps because of this
>it's not like curse is a perfect oppurtunity to push lanes or something
almost everytime i play on this map
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>>164385071
He'd be the best buddy of a Tychus on the other team as he'd wouldn't immediately die when solo diving and provide In the Rhythm stacks.
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>Zul'jin just so happens to release after they buff Bloodlust.

Clever bastards.
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>>164384189
>Sonya is better than Varian's shit build.

I'd hope so.
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>>164385741
you don't understand: Sonya can go toe to toe with every Varian except Prot, because a normal match isn't long enough for Sonya to chip down a Prot Varian 1v1.
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>>164385982
And you don't understand Sonya is garbage. Prot Varian is good.
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>>164386549
against sonya, yes
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>wake up
>still no Valeera
Is this the eternal Blizzard holiday?
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>>164381694
>pick tank and initiator
>doesn't like tanking or initiating
Don't know what those people are thinking.

>>164385145
Well wouldn't the logic be that having some mercs in the lane help with pushing while you engage in the inevitable 5v5?

Were you guys backpedaling for camps or something?
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>>164386737
ikr... those bastards at blizzard hate us, they should had released Valeera a long time ago
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>>164386737
i fucking hate that picture
dat baby face
whoever made it has no idea how shadows work
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>>164386737
can we get more tanks and supports instead
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>>164386630
No Prot Varian is just good. It's his best build. Furty is utter dogshit and Smash is situational. Sonya is garbage in pretty much every situation.
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Help me understand priority, hotsg. In a teamfight where our team is facing Li MIng, Thrall, ETC, Auriel and Tychus+Laser Cannon, who should be our first priority? Should it be the healer? Or the highest damage dealer on the enemy team? Or is it dependent on what our team consists of?
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>>164387271
The amount of Valeera art that isn't devianart tier doodles on paper is countable on your fingers.
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>>164387603
healer>dps>tank
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>>164387603
you start with whoever you can hit, and try poking the laser cannon if you think you will have to fight in its area
then, whoever is in danger of dying, that's the person you focus.
if anyone got ccd, unload on that person (unless it was a full HP tank and enemies have CDs up, then the person which applied CC fucked up)
otherwise, obviously focus the squishy, but don't forget to pay attention to what your allies are doing as well
no use trying to kill a full HP li ming when everyone else is focusing auriel
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>>164387603
"See Tychus Laser run away"
That's your priority
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>trolls are literal KANGZ
>nazeebo is carrying a troll shrunken head

nazeebo confirmed uncle tom?
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>>164387603
>Thrall slow + two laser beam ults + ETC + Auriel
I'd just Alt+F4 or try some meme push in a lane that doesn't have those guys on my ass.

Auriel's healing is based on teammate damage so either pick her off first or take out the damage first if you can actually one-shot them (doubtful, so Auriel). ETC is going to get his stun off regardless so you should worry about minimising the damage instead of killing him off before he starts rocking.

If you can kill Thrall before he puts out the slow, you could have a chance 5v4.
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>>164387921
Do you even understand what an uncle tom is?
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>>164388047
Do you even understand how humor works? You should try it some time
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>>164388047
>Definition of Uncle Tom
1
: a black who is overeager to win the approval of whites (as by obsequious behavior or uncritical acceptance of white values and goals)
2
: a member of a low-status group who is overly subservient to or cooperative with authority <the worst floor managers and supervisors by far are women … Some of them are regular Uncle Toms — Jane Fonda>

yes i do senpai, and i hope today you learned as well.
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>>164387921
>playing as artanis
>kill nazeebo
>"hmmm... an inferior lifeform"
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patchnotes when?
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What will he bring to the table?
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>>164390557
hijabs
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>remember that brawl exists
>play one
>retard on my team: fuck u noob u dont even have portrait yet eat shit
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>>164390557
Less Waifus. More real heroes.
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>>164391449
like?
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>>164392080
mengsk
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When will they release Garrosh the true warchief?
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>>164390557
depression
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>>164392405
After they release the true hero of the Horde
if they release the WoD version they can go fuck a rusty pitchfork
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>>164392120
A good example.
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>>164392618
they'll probably release him as the wod rep and make an "original" skin for him
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>>164392794
Nah they'll give him an altered world skin like Thrall and Samuro.
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when will /hotsg/ finally settle what they taste like?????
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>>164393418
What's up with this degenerate fetish?
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>>164393471
you mean top tier taste?

nothing wrong with that at all...
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>>164393418
dirt and brew
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>>164393471
everything about LiLi is degenerate tho
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>>164393471
furfags being obnoxious again
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>>164384189
i would argueably say varians best build is collosus smash in terms of making a high impact and being the absolute best at it. Also the ability to just point and click stun someone is pretty strong whereas sonyas is a skillshot
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>>164390557
>Dabiri has been responsible for the new Heroes Brawl mode
Death
>>
So, Zul'jin this week, right?
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>>164390557

he's been running the show for basically 1.5 years, so everything we've got since then
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>>164376339

Keep in mind that this list isn't final. Alarak was released ahead of schedule because of Axototl's leaks, and we all know Kel'thuzad is very super late in development and should be released. That's merely a list of heroes that were, at the time, in various stages of development and not necessarily in order of who's to come next..
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>>164384689

Zul'jin hits harder than Tychus baseline, so when his trait gets up he also can attack as fast or faster than Tychus. Overall he's less situational than Tychus.
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>>164397147
Yup, january 4th
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>>164387603

Healer = Ming > Tychus > Thrall > ETC in that situation. There is also of course the "whoever is most out of position" rule too.
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Is Artanis the hero with highest skill cap now? Those long range phase prisms are pretty difficult to do.
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>>164398892

They are not hard. All you do is dash, wait like a second, then throw prism.
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>>164398892
No, Stitches is because that hook doesn't magically pass over all minions.
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>>164398892
>artanis
>skill
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>>164399017
>>164399042
>>164399121

Oh wow. You do realize that Q + E combo is incredibly telegraphed right? you have to make a split second decision when to E because anyone with a brain will be juking.
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>play Sylvanas
>MC the enemy healer or their most important assassin and run them right into my team

Sylvanas is such a cunt, I'm glad they were able to translate that directly into how she plays
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>>164400135
>Get stunned or displaced out of it. Or even better die because you are standing still like a fucking idiot.
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>>164400126
His normal e is what's telegraphed since he stops moving and has an animation for it, which made it incredibly hard to land on anyone with mobility or no pressure on them.
The q combo has done nothing but good things for artanis, making him even more fun to play and slightly less like Sonya 2.0
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>>164346343
>Yrel should be given to Maraad
How about people leave based Maraad alone.
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>>164400456
maybe if you have the positioning of a fucking idiot
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>>164400135
>yfw she was originally only able to convert minions into allies
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>>164400904
No that would be the healer for actually getting caught by Mind Control and if you don't get the healer they just cleanse the person of your ult.
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>ranked
>didn't wait a lot of time
>first pick
>have the bans
>game is fast to load
hope 2017 will be like that
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>>164400126

Someone is upset that his husbando main and his "skills" with him aren't all that rare. He's better and has an extra tool in his kit with the dash swap, but calling it hard to do is just stupid.
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>Rag oneshots chromie with sulfuras smash and a 2 level deficit

heroic difficulty really is something else
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>only 1 week to be the KANG
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>>164401773
more like 2 days.
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>>164401735
Sulfuras smash in Heroic does anywhere from 60% to 100% of a heroes health.
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>>164401735
>>164402671

Time to nerf it
>>
How do you know whether it's a good idea to take mercenary camps at that specific point in the game?
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>>164403864
>will it get a lot of value and/or create space and pressure for your team
>yes - take it
>no - leave it
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>enemy team is 5man premade
>I have a group of 3 on my team with me and another being random
>the 3 people leave at the 2 minute mark
>9 minute braxis
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>>164403864

see>>164403981

Spamming them isn't usually a good idea unless you are losing, then getting the small camps will help your team get space and catch up.

Also, never EVER do boss if the enemy team has any chance of contesting mid fight. Best way to throw the camp. If you want to bait the enemy team into going to check it you can set up nice ganks or force fights that way if you are ahead. Other than that, take it if they have 2 or more down only.
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>>164404314
>Other than that, take it if they have 2 or more down only.
Unless they still have BW/Falstad/Zarya/ETC up who can steal bosses really fucking easily if your team is fellating a cock.
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what is this a reference to?
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>>164394894
>tfw my friend constantly picks fury and never EVER goes CM since "it makes him too squishy"
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>>164405997

Doesn't it, though?

Twin Blades seems awful after a certain MMR, but until then being able to jungle and 1v1 is pretty okay

>unless the nerfs killed it idk haven't played recently
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>>164406118
If you just want to jungle and 1v1 pick Illidan or something
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I'm new to the game (not because of oni genji). I like world of warcraft a lot, is Rehgar good to buy?
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>>164406781

Yeah, he's excellent. Top tier.
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>>164390557
ted cruz?
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>>164404264
I've beaten braxis in 3:30 before
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>>164405419
I believe it's just a jojo reference.
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>>164392618
>>164392901
desu they'll probably do a weird combination of the rts/wod versions, just like jaina/thrall/guldan etc
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>>164407448
They cant really do a WC3 skillset because he was a blademaster despite not actually being a blademaster. Theyll probably make him more of a berserker.
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WHEN WILL THE CHROMIE SKINS BE ON SALE! LAST TIME WAS IN AUGUST
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>>164408053
I meant visually, sorry. Gameplay wise I just hope they make him a high damage warrior and not a squishy assassin.
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>>164408181
One of his ults should be him throwing his weapon at an enemy hero, dealing heavy damage, making them vulnerable, but leaving him unable to attack until he goes up to the enemy hero to retrieve it. They are vulnerable until he takes the axe back.
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>>164408118
>wanting the other chromie skin when weenie genie is coming out soon
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>>164409646
fel queen>genie

this is a fact
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>>164409518
>>164408181
Actually, maybe leave him able to pummel things with his fists.
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>>164402671
>100%
On what, a viking or Murky?

Does ~85% to a Valla (center)
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>>164409646
gonna have to be a sale sometime soon
I will buy whatever one that goes on sale first.
they are both really good skins
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>>164411052

It guarantees you land your W and/or E, which is more than enough to kill any non-tank from a pretty sizable distance.

>>164409646

Doesn't it just slightly recolor her abilities? Bet it'll be $10, lmao.
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>>164411556
You'd want to W before your R in MC.

Also the original post is,
>Sulfuras smash in Heroic does anywhere from 60% to 100% of a heroes health.
Want to set it straight since a lot of mis-information spreads among HotS communities.
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>mfw climing through HL ranks thanks to Raynor
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>its quick match lol go play ranked if you want to win
>except the enemy team they're allowed to try as hard as possible
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>>164414450
Matchmaking is a total joke, anon. The only thing you get from taking this game and community seriously is pain.
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>>164414450
>taking literally anything in this game even remotely seriously
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>sylvanas blame everyone for the loss
>go front lane
>wants to fight lvl 14 vs lvl 16
>30k siege damages
>don't solo lane
I'll never get to diamond
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>>164415251
>>164415548
Guess you're right. I'm too much of a buttmunch to not comment on it though
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So I bought Rehgar and I'm pretty happy with him. He's literally a swiss army knife, and it's not like he does low damage or heal, dude is super strong.
Is he the most OP? or is it Zarya?
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>>164416230
Thrall.
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>>164416230
go to hotslogs and filter leagues so you can only see what's good in masters league, that's a good indicator of how every hero is doing atm
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>>164405419
shitty tastes
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>>164414450

thanks for the blog update
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>>164409805

>transparent pants
>small top
>midriff

you are wrong
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>>164417205
Why did they make Chromie a Gnigger?
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>>164417323

why didn't they do it sooner?
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>>164416685
Why is Diablo so popular? He seems like a one trick pony to me
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>>164417919
Because he's the best tank in the game.
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>>164417919

>second highest HP
>highest HP regen
>highest resist
>best CC single target
>high damage
>global team stun

I wonder
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Reminder to take Devil's Due at level 1.
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>>164417323
now I can fuck someone of my race!
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Friendly reminder that every halfway awake Artanis can pull off a dash+swap PULL, the true mastery of Artanis is shown with the dash+swap PUSH.
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how is this shit even possible, this guy isn't even a troll
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>>164419892
This is as expected as the #1 GM. There's someone for each end of the skill spectrum.
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>>164419892
idk seems like losing that much would get you banned lmao
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>>164419692
We need more advanced techniques like this.
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>>164419970
yes, but i really doubt this guy is the only one in the region that has literally 0 ranked points
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>>164419892
We need more advanced techniques like this.
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>>164420318

Life finds a way.
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>yfw artanis was your main man
>now everyone and their kid "mains" him and his "impossibly hard combo"
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>>164421307
>Varian has been out less than 2 months
>204 games of Varian in under 2 months
>204 games of HotS in under 2 months
What the FUCK. Is that an unreasonable amount? I feel like thats an unreasonable amount.
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>>164421369
>they gave hook to artanis
will never understand why
would have been a lot better if the charge would stop your dash from going back imo
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>>164421836
Doesn't the swap ability always swap to the final destination of the dash, even if you use it midway? If that's the case, they should change it.
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>>164421585
it is high but not unreasonable
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>>164421585
varian released on 11/15/16 http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/List_of_heroes_by_release_date
it's 02/01/17 now so that's about 47 days
i am not good at maths but i think he would've played about 4 or 5 games every day just as varian from release until today to achieve that number
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>>164421369
>artanis always subpar bruiser that only turns into a halfway decent hero super late
>now he's actually very good and you can pick him all the time and it's a good pick
>this is bad somehow because muh hipster cred

>>164421836
lol no

>>164421958
You swap from the position you are at when the swap orb thingy hits the enemy.
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>>164422141
>>this is bad somehow because muh hipster cred
It isn't bad cuz hipster cred, it's bad because all the newtanis fags are acting like they're madmen for pulling off the "combo", and it makes people who have played him even when he was "shit, get lumped into the same group.
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>>164422274
>I want to be recognized for liking a hero before it was cool

sure sounds like hipster shit to me
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>>164422416
That's not what I'm saying, quit trying to be confrontational for the sake of "trying to fit in"
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>>164422650
You're complaining about being lumped together with new Artanis players.
Thus, you want to be recongized for playing Artanis before it was cool.

It is what you are saying.
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>braxis hold
>i'm zagara, laning vs rexxar
>he's a complete shitter and i killed him twice
>it was both his and my promotion game
>he's russian and I don't have the russian characters required to whisper him "LOL EZ, thanks for the promotion"
feels bad man
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>>164424000
>Zagara
>killing anything
Yeah, he must've been a shitter.
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>>164424000
cyka blat gets the same point across
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Is there a worse map design than blackheart?
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>>164424740

new haunted mines
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>>164424794
and garden of terror
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>play assassin for once
>get put with two warriors and two supports
>lose because no damage

thanks matchmaking
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What's the most about of games you guys have as a single hero?
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>>164425932
>Divide Warriors into Guardians and Bruisers
>Add a rule to QM for Bruisers, same rule that Warriors and Supports have
>Add option to opt for a game with a Warrior and Support in exchange for a longer queue time for those playing Assassins or Specialists (Or Warriors who want a Support, or a support who wants a Warrior)

There, QM fucking fixed.
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>>164426406
should we split supports and healer too ? and put medivh as a support
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>>164426218
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>>164424183
this is true though, even though i had serrated blades and I could constantly auto attack the enemy misha / muradin because they were retarded, my damage still felt like nothing
i was hitting the enemy lunara that had malf's HOT on her, her HP barely went down unless i was both on creep and had the hydralisk on her
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>>164377986

HoTS is dead, so it wouldn't surprise me if they dropped it.
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>>164426617
I honestly think that's a really good idea. Split them up into Supports and Healers.

>Supports
Shield enemies, providing sustained damage mitigation and deal moderate damage

>Healers
Healing enemies, either in rapid succession or in large bursts, deal very low damage, but bring extra utility to the group as well.

Or SOMETHING like that. I legitimately love that idea. I'm all for splitting up Warriors and Supports into two new categories. Medivh would have to go into that new Support category though, at the very least, just in QM's little matchmaking algorithm even if he maintained his Specialist title.
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The fun continues.
>solo pub nova/murky/gaz teams galore
>try hard 3-5 man premade enemy teams
Guess I just suck huh, should probably uninstall
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>>164386737

>Melee Assassin
>Viable

Will be nerfed if actually viable. Will be useless more likely than not.
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>>164427146
>Quick match
Who the fuck cares. You'll die young if you let unranked shit stress you out.
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>>164427126
>Shield enemies
>Heal enemies

I obviously mean Allies. Holy fuck I'm retarded.
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>>164425932
>see drunk gnome
>blood immediately starts flowing to penis
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I mained support for a really long time, but it's REALLY HARD to go up in rank, so nowadays I mostly play Tychus / Samuro / Rexxar (on BXH), supports if needed
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>>164427323
>brewfest Chromie

please look forward to it
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>>164426218
~105 Abathur
Pretty good considering I've nearly 2k games total.
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>>164427247
It's not stressing me out, I just think it's interesting how long this trend is going. I've gg'd every match. (And every match has been a total shitstomp, not even close)
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>>164427234
At this point I'm fucking convinced they can't make an actual melee Assassin viable without giving them a Blink, or secretly making them a ranged hero but with a melee auto-attack.

Seriously, when your melee damage heroes NEED ranged abilities, you know you've fucked something up somewhere.
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>>164427379
my MMR since I bought Samuro and started playing assassins
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>>164427126
>>164426406

>expecting anything like this to happen
>in this game
>ever

lmao maybe after the next five seasons, three maps and twelve heroes
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>>164427469
>>164427234
What, in your opinion, are the biggest problems preventing melee assassins from being strong? In my opinion it shouldn't be damage. Melee assassin instantkilling is total horse shit in other games.
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>>164427469

>Samuro was viable
>LEL TOO GOOD TOO GOOD GUESS WE FUCKED UP
>Unfuckingplayable after nerfs.

Oh, and Valeera on that note, just might throw oils that make enemies vulnerable, slow, so on and so on.

>Melee heroes need ranged abilities!
>Greymane
>Viable.

SIDES
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>>164427550
>>164427379
Wish I had the luxury of not being forced to support due to last pick and/or that "I DONT CARE IF WE NEED SUPPORT I MAIN TYCHUS" guy I get all the time.
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>>164427323

>having sex with chromie
>she sucks your dick and alters the space-time continuum so you can feel the past, present, and future sucking all at once simulatnously
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>>164427601

>What, in your opinion, are the biggest problems preventing melee assassins from being strong?

No feasible way to engage without being vaporized unless you copy Zeratul's kit (NOT HIS STEALTH)

That, and if a Melee Assassin doesn't have damage, he's not worth playing over Valla..
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>>164427379
you can't trust your team mate on ranked games. You have to take something that can carry the game. Some shit like samuro or thrall that can solo lane and fuck up the opponent push while dealing a good amount of damages in team fights.
Same shit with any jaina, kt, tychus... As long as you don't feed, do your job, makes good calls, you're gonna win
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>>164427146
Alarak has two, maybe three good maps, you should lose more than you win if you play him every game.
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>>164427723
>used to fill
>now i stubbornly hover my pick
>have climbed significantly since
>happier too
Follow your dreams.

>w-we'll report you
lmao the people who think this carries literally any weight
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>>164427737
>she reverts time to just before you jizz
>over and over
>she perfects it where you jizz over and over so it's a non-stop stream 'till your balls deplete and she solo-bukkake herself
Gnomes are 2017's Elves.
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>>164427737

>Chromie's mastery over time can just delay your orgasm, or just make the nut really, really slow but persisting over the course of an hour.

>>164427953

This works too. Pretty much!
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>>164427908
You still win even if your team does shit like fuck the team comp despite needing tank, support etc?
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>>164428535

Yeah, sure. Somebody else usually offers to fill the role we "need", though.
It can really depend, because I've had all Assassin/Bruiser games in which we just stomped, and that was great.

Had a four tank and Brightwing game, even.
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>>164427953
>our team comp: rehgar, lunara, johanna, artanis, thrall
>enemy team: diablo, raynor, chromie, malfurion, falstad
>thrall and rehgar got BL and earthquake
>they all pussy out every time raynor uses hyperion
>tell them to just fucking dive them
>they dont
>"fucking hyperion cant do anything"
>falstad had fucking blast
>we lost because these shitters run away from hyperion with BL on them
fuck this game, retarded shits
i fucking hate having to tank for morons like this, we won early game in xp kills and structure damage, but as soon as we hit 10 (WHEN WE SHOULD START WINNING HARDER), these faggots find it two difficult to put 2 ults together and get kills
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>>164427601
Absolutely, how easily they're melted. Thrall is great because of his inherent self-healing, Earthquake now gives him that healing as well, he acn take Block and Spellshield, and can sit there and ranged poke to heal before an engage.

So honestly, I think it comes down to a matter of not being able to withstand just how much fucking damage is in this game now. Like, you need to be a Bruiser in order to stand a chance. It just comes down to numbers, if you're melee, you should likely be more slippery or durable than your ranged counterparts, because if you're going to melt just as fast, there's no fucking point.
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>>164429383

>Thrall is great because of his inherent self-healing
>Ever since this "THRALL EARTHQUAKE META" meme, if I pick him I have 5-man meatball teamcomp shoved up my asshole.

I dropped HoTS immediately. I can get camped by 5-mans in fucking DOTA2 with less stress.
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Jaina is good for _______
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>>164429828

sex
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>>164429828
Killing horde scum
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>>164429828
Feeding mah dick
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>lol what if we just made a mage so good it made every other one obsolete and we never did anything about it
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>>164349102
everyone went shields?
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>>164430474
>negative win rate until masters
>lower win rate than Jaina, Li-Ming and Kael'thas at every MMR

Um.
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>>164430474

pubstomp hero nothing more
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What the fuck is that Loot tab going to be for?

WHAT THE FUCK IS IT.
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>>164430929
The cancer which is going to finally finish off this ded gaem.
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>>164430749
>Li-Ming

Whoops. Meant to say Chromie.

>>164430929
Hextech crafting, hopefully?

Probably just the Overwatch loot crate system, though.
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>>164430701
Oh god. I just looked at that image. They have no damage, but fuck, they'd be like dueling a Holy Paladin in Vanilla WoW: like fighting a couch with a whiffle bat. They can't really hurt you, but they just won't. fucking. die.
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Succuslut hero when?
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>>164430749
>negative win rate until masters
>people in low leagues are bad
amazing
>>
>buy master skin for hero
>get bored of playing them

what's their name hotsg
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>>164432138
all three of them
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cute and fun
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>>164431962
>still significantly lower than jaina/kael
>obsolete
>only in Masters do people begin to play her remotely well


Whew, that only took a few months and tons of nerfs.
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>>164340847
>Top space nigga Alarak
>shitty

Literally his whole design is based around being egotistical as fuck. Mobs? Not worth his time. You're shit as him? You're not good enough to play him. His entire kit is either infuriating high damage pokes or close range disables and pushing people back into ganking range or farting away from them in the nick of time. Hell he can just tank a hit or five for a bit and spit back minimum 1600 damage in a huge cone if someone wants to get a high damage ability in on you. OR blink away. OR catch chumps running outside push range. You can have 2 of these at once.
Make your enemies mad.
Laugh at them.
Be the cephalopod/plantperson/prick we all need.

Captcha was sushi.
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>>164432560
Realizing I misread that post. I'm easily triggered it seems.

Points still stand?
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Baron Rivendare when?
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>>164432560
>Mobs? Not worth his time.

His waveclear is half-way decent though.
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>>164432813
>1 in 5000 mount guy

I don't know how they'd spin this, desu.
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>>164432560
This is the most reddit post I've seen in weeks.
I hope you die.
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>>164433173
He'd be a boss to kill like the Headless Horseman in the Towers map. Only he'd only spawn once and have a 1-in-5000 chance to drop his mount for ONE person who killed him to ride as a cosmetic item.
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>>164430929
what are you talking about
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>>164434341

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPk004vsjuE&feature=youtu.be&t=201

>Play
>Shop
>Loot
>Watch
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>>164430474
>never did anything about it
>been nerfed non stop since release
>47% winrate
>let's nerf calamity because fuck you
>46% winrate
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>>164434493
Almost certainly an Overwatch loot box system.

They've talked about how they're going to expand level system to not just max out at 40. Will probably give you a loot box with every level that has a chance at gold/portrait/hero skin/possibly even dust to craft things with.
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>>164434742
Do you think theyd be dickish enough to not make the system retroactive?
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>>164434742

Well, that might be fun. Especially if there's the potential for free skins.

>wowtoken give bnet currency pls
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>>164434914
>wowtoken give bnet currency pls

WHEN
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>>164434882

They wouldn't dare.
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>>164433204
>I hope you die.
Even as a joke that's pretty overboard
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>>164435076
>Blizzard has found a way to kill That Which Has No Life.
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>>164427953
http://i.imgur.com/fDBC5Gc.png
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>>164436301
Youre a good anon
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>>164437559
>post lowest quality smut
>get praised
ez
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>>164436301
is that OC? in MY hotsg?
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>>164436301
>le anon avatar
Nothing more cringy on the internet than that.
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>>164437780
>question mark = anon
kek
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>>164437586
>trying to maintain a game with depth more shallow than a kiddie pool
>gets triggered over a spoiler link
Why's the vocal minority always gotta be so easily triggered?
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>>164437997
>poke fun
>instantly labelled as triggered
Reminds me of some S or J and W group.
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>>164437586
There are more popular artists that get away with worse, I appreciate this anon's request fulfillment
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>>164439453
Did someone request that? Didn't see it.
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>>164439572
Well not a request but the situation described is whats going on in that pic so either it conveniently already existed or it was just done for that scenario
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>>164439743
You mean? >>164427953 ? They're not the same. Would've been drawn already.
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>>164438181
Sorry, read it wrong.
>>164439813
Yes it already existed. Among several others.
http://i.imgur.com/UPKOlIK.png
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Is there no way to tell an ETC to pay attention to Living Bomb without pissing them off?

They killed three players with it and yet when I told them all they said was "Fuck off".
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>>164437780
And what does Leddit use instead?
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>>164441852
idk the best response to stupid shit is usually just not to say anything

>get into ranked draft
>"just letting you guys know ill troll if your toxic"
>what the fuck
>okay whatever lmao
>get into game
>he facechecks the bush of death
>alone
>dies
>gets pinged
>fuck this toxic community
>runs into towers the rest of the game

some people are just on a hair trigger
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>>164442129
>"Just letting you guys know, I'm toxic"

Fixed that for him.
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>>164442129
>>164441852
All I said was "You need to be more cafeful with the Living Bombs".

Ugh. Oh well. This was just after a great game where everyone responded and listened. Like, sometimes I say "You went in too deep" and they say "Sorry, my bad" but other times, that's apparently sacrilege and worth throwing the game over.
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>>164442234
Now that I think about it somebody might've called him a retard when he died. Was a while ago.


>>164442349
Mhm. You've got to tip-toe around important things.

>sorry illidan i was too low to follow you that deep
Usually gets the Illidan to play more carefully than "stop fucking diving".

Oh, and "flaming" is does have a place. If you're ahead and begin to throw it can sober people up. Doesn't work when behind, though.
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>>164442935
>If you're ahead and begin to throw it can sober people up. Doesn't work when behind, though.
Seen this happen when I stack. It's amusing. We stomp hard the first ~10 minute then start to throw constantly, then someone says "Okay, no fucking around now." and we're all super sweaty then continue to stomp them and quickly win. Always entertaining.
>>
it's been a while since we've been so dead lads
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>>164445425
I don't know what to talk about any more. I play every day and I love the game.

But like, no one seems horrendously OP. And I'm excited for Zul'jin, but have nothing to say about him.

I could blogpost more, but that's really all there is to talk about.
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>>164445751
>no one seems horrendously OP

>I'm excited for Zul'jin
Same. Checking back in after he comes out.
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>>164445751
>>164445828

He should be on PTR tomorrow on schedule
>>
>all blizzard games doing diablo 20th year anniversary events
>hots releases another warcraft hero
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>>164446594
There is a diablo brawl on friday or something right?
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>>164446072
no PTR this time
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>>164446072
There is not ptr this time.
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>>164447067
>>164447396
It's pretty useless to have it on PTR since it's not like they will change anything after a PTR
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>>164447067
>>164447396
>>164447515
>Blizzard finally realized they never catch anything on PTR
I was getting sick of the week of PTR only for them to nerf the hero immediately after release anyways.
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>>164447515
>>164448290
PTR is mainly used as a way to test for bugs, not balance.
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>>164448547
>PTR is used to test bugs
>Rework Tychus and rework chen came to the live version bugged
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>>164435076
How???
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>>164450789
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>>164450893
No Anon this has to be next level. This is when you transcend life and death.
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>>164451083
No, that's what happens when you farm bots with a bot
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>>164451243
>afk trained all heroes to 9
>have nearly 6000 games played instead of my actual 700

slight regret
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>Only one more hero to complete the Old Horde team

Grom and/or Teron Gorefiend when?
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>getting rekt by the enemy team
>4 levels behind
>team starts blaming the only hero on both sides
>trying to say theirs is shit because worse stats than the same hero on enemy team
>can't even figure out the enemy team stomping on them wouldn't inflate the enemy numbers
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>specialist on towers of doom
>literally can't do anything if my team falls behind because it's an objective-only map
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>>164453068
>not pushing the shit out of all lanes
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>>164453591
>my nexus is getting destroyed while I'm struggling to keep the lanes pushed in
zoz
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>>164450789
It's from Reddit. Likely just having a Stimpak activated whilst playing with buddies as often as he can. Shit adds up real fast, Stimpaks make leveling up to like 16 trivial.
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>>164453705
>up to like 16
Why 16? Level requirements after 9 are the same (9-10 = 10-11 = 11-12 so on)
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I wish I had an autistic friend who'd grind both Cho and Gall with me to lv 20.
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Would anyone be kind enough to give me a hand with the 30 games? I only need fourteen more.
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>>164455736
>asks for parties
>no Battle.net tag
>no region
Might as well ask an empty void.
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>>164455924
NA
SerWind#1513
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How should I gauge whether Alarak needs a lightning poke build over Dickord poke?

What heroes would end up requiring the lightning poke?
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>>164456672
I feel like the hype over Alarak had to be manufactured. People apparently loved this guy I had never heard of, and I only found out about him through sc2 co-op. I don't even.
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>>164456672
Always go Discord, faggot. The "muh poek!" is pretty pointless later on.

>>164457023
>everybody is the same as you
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How to Alarak?
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>>164457750
Keep playing him. Only thing I have to mention is,
>Counter Strike
Pick it.
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>tank
>chogall on the enemy team
>know we'll lose because he'll just punch me to death
haha
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>>164457812
What talents? I see a lot of damage reducing ones and the level 20 talents are a fucking joke, except the ulti ones which give me the same ulti on my trait meaning I get 2 seperate cooldowns on the same ulti?
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>>164458058
No, you get both ults.
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>>164458058
Always take both heroics. Most of the time I get Counter @ 10. A godly (albeit buggy) skill that no-one expects and everybody severely underestimates it. Just play him, dude. No hero in this turbo-casual game is difficult. Just be wary of the input lag in this dumb game--fucks up your combo frequently.

>counter-strike the enemy counter-strike
The best feel.
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>manage to win 4v5 because our support was probably botting in 1 lane
>ask the team to report him for nonparticipation
>"dude chill out it's just a game"
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Earthquake is a fun ultimate with lots of counterplay.
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>>164459275
when this shit happens, i log in to LoL and play teemo solo top
i spend all game just fucking people over and placing mushrooms autistically everywhere
i win most games
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ANONS I HAVE FOUND THE SECRET TO CLIMBING RANKS
AND ONLY 3 YEARS TOO LATE
>never play ranked between 19 and 22, ever
>never play ranked on the weekends after 09:00 in the morning
>never, ever touch ranked on holidays. ever. for any reason.
>play assassin > specialist > support / tank if really needed
>ping a lot
>make sure you have cooldowns and mana ready for objective
>never waste mana on lane if you're not going to get a kill or a really good trade
>git gud
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>HL
>I was hovering ETC, it was perfect for our team comp
>some other guy hovers ETC too
>Can I tank please?
>sure
>he fucking picks muradin
>he's a complete shitter that misses all his stuns, engages like a fucking retard, and can't even jump over walls
>check his match history
>he's on a losing streak of 7 games, most of them as muradin
TAKE A FUCKING HINT YOU SHITTER
HOLY SHIT WHY DO I TRY TO APPEASE THESE RETARDS
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>>164461359
You forgot the most important part
>make new account if you don't land in diamond 3 after placement matches or drop too low
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>>164461469
but how am I going to learn the hero if I don't play him anon :)
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>be samuro
>i go off to solo an enemy camp, a bit risky but meh pussies never won games
>fucking muradin leaps over a wall to help me
>ping retreat on him
>he stays
>we get discovered
>i stealth away, he gets killed
fucking retards, when will they learn?
THIS IS SAMURO'S FUCKING JOB
STAY THE FUCK AWAY, SOAK LANES, PRESSURE STRUCTURES
fucking hell is it hard to realize that if you pressure structures your jungler won't get caught doing camps?
is it hard to realize samuro can get away from being caught anyway or win a 1v1 duel?
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>>164461469
Only constant! You are the rank you deserve to be at! =D
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>>164461739
>jungler
>>164444527
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How do people find Quick Match to be a tolerable experience?
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>>164461739
This only ever happens when you play a hero that can merc easily in Wood V.

>be leoric
>good time to take camp, start it
>ping for team to help
>no-one comes
>ask for help
>no-one comes
>either abandon it or spend 5 years taking a fucking camp

>be robo gaz
>go to take a camp, not even a fucking enemy camp
>robo means i can clear camps with relative ease, makes crushing giants such a breeze
>raynor still feels the need to walk away from a fat wave to assist
>gets one auto-attack in and then parks his ass on the point to cap it
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>>164461848
are you one of those that autistically kept posting that HOTS is not a MOBA?

how did it feel when blizzard called it a moba?
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Can they just tell us all the new heroes that are going to be released in 2017 ? I don't want to be disappointed like in 2016. We just had 3 diablo heroes. Li ming was fine, the "necromancer" and some shitty angel no one cares about.
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>be tychus
>retarded support player picks morales and stims me every fight
>we also have raynor on the team
>my minigun lasted 8+ seconds
you piece of shit retard, i don't fucking need your shitty stim drone on fucking tychus, once minigun is over i'm done AAing, i just overkill and grenade

fucking shit what is this moron doing in diamond
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>>164462805
Why do all you fuckers write "necromancer" in quotes? He is THE fucking D2 necromancer you all wanted. He looks the same, he plays similar enough yet still fun for moba, he's got the same fucking voice and personality.
>but muh bone armor
Then get the fucking master skin. His base looks is exactly his starting gear, just with a bit more detail.
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>>164462805
>only 3 heroes from MY favourite franchise
That's pretty much the amount you should expect in a year. They have to juggle four universes; getting 3 Diablo, 3 SC, 4-5 WC and 1-2 OW a year is the fairest deal we can get.
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>>164463347
>trying to learn tychus in qp
>no tanks on enemy team
>my team has two tanks that die before objective
I can't seem to win with him.
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>>164463393
>looks the same
barely
>plays similar
no
>enough
>no
>still fun
barely
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>>164462805
>amazing support hero with unique skillset
>shitty angel no one cares about
BUT MUH IMPERIUS
BUT MUH EDGY ANGEL
BUT MY AWFULLY WRITTEN WAIFU
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>>164463687
try unranked
and lucky you, srey just released a good video explaining tychus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjHRY49jTi4
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>>164463923
this
a million times this
but don't forget
>MUH DECKARD CAIN MEMES
>MUH MALE BARBARIAN
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>>164463393
>necromancer was skinny, you could see his bones
>in hots it's some badass character with two weapons
>summons doesn't follow you
>Q and W are made up skills
>have to wait lvl 20 to have the bone spear
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>>164463923
I don't care about imperius neither. Just look at the act1 -> act2 video or the fight with princess diablo. This shitter is even worse than auriel. They try to made some badass angel but he doesn't have any charisma. Should as well kys and let another angel do his job.
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Assuming there's no big reason to take Bulwark, whats the best L13 talent for Artanis? Templar's Zeal?
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>>164463347
>thinking stim on tychus is bad just because you stop AAing after minigun
I'm pretty certain Tychus hits the attack speed cap with stim and loses a shitload of value from it.
It's why Bloodlust is bad on Tychus/Zarya too.
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How do I build Rehgar?
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>lose an immos fight because our alarak wordlessly decided to start soloing a merc camp right before the immos spawned and nobody noticed
>he didnt even get the camp, he fucking died to it
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>>164464693
you attack 4 times / second without stim, what the fuck do you even need stim for?
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>>164465318
That's what I said.
Tychus/Zarya (and maybe Tracer too?) get really low value out of big AS steroids like Stim and BL. So you should probably avoid using them on those heroes.

Tychus getting low value out of BL contributes a lot to Raynor's viability. More than his Hyperion bug.
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>>164463393
About half of Xul's abilitiesare actually from D2. He is without a doubt, some OC character. His trait is an absolutely terrible representation of Raise Skeleton in D2, because it's passive and they have like 15 20 health, and are just sort of -there-. (Not to mention they look nothing like his skeletons). They're a complete afterthought, when they're absolutely iconic to the D2 Necro.

Xul is rather built with big ass gauntlets on his arms and legs. The D2 Necromancer had some nice ab game going, but he wasn't nearly this built, he was more a skinny-muscley type of guy. And none of his gear has him wearing bulky as fuck gauntlets and boots, all of his armor in D2 is rather elegant looking, with emphasis on light plate, bones, skaeskin/chain mail battleskirts.

Overall, if we absolutely HAD to relate Xul to the D2 Necromancer at ALL, we could say that Xul is in fact, a Meleemancer (Which is an actual thing, though incredibly gear reliant and very slow, it's a really fun playstyle) however that still does not excuse the fact that half his kit (The most dominant half at that) is made up bullshit. I mean shit, just to try and relate them to the D2 Necro, they named his TALENTS after his D2 spells.

Not that I don't love Xul, because I do. Especially since I'm one of the fucking 200 or so people who actually did a Meleemancer. It's just that he's, honestly, not the D2 Necro in any legitimate sense other than them just saying he is, which is a load of shit.
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>>164465575
>hurr I know better how to make a necromancer than the people who literally made and own him

1000% butthurt lmao
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>>164465652
Except they didn't, Dustin. And you should know that.


Not a single person involved with D2's art direction is even there anymore, aside form MAYBE Sam Didier, though I'm not sure if he had any hand in the Necro's design. I also don't think he would have any sort of real power over the design of heroes in HotS.
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>>164465575
wow, what a fucking loser
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>>164432138
zagara and xul, zag more for her being difficult to justify a spot. i was insanely good at split pushing with nydus and placing nyduses across the map to help team mates but she feels like a win more hero in that if you have map control and are in a solid lead she is amazing at keeping that lead but incredibly bad when you dont have that.
She excels more as a last pick if the enemy team doesnt draft globals/potential gank heros.

Its really hilarious though when its late game and the enemy team sends one person back to deal with the split push and they die because they dont respect the creep wave damage.

Also illidan, rarely play him because he really needs two supports or just rehgar to be effective but i find that im less likely to take a risk and play a more solidly consistent assassin. like the previous hero illidan is amazing in a very niche role/situation but can be a huge detriment to your team if the enemy draft counters him because he offers no real team fight beyond auto attacking a single hero.
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>>164465806
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Mace is a good guy and a cute lad
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>>164465871
Have you tried Zag as a solo on Braxis?
She can dominate the regen globe pretty well and benefits a lot from the vents.
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>>164432138
Sonya, and it's less "being bored of" - it's "biding my time until a future buff makes her amazing again"
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>>164465806
no need to look at hots. Just look at what they made with D3. No one remotely cares about this license in blizzard.
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>Get Auriel
>Enemy team uses Tyrande
>Tyrande outheals Auriel by lights year
I thought Tyrande was a meme
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>>164466441
git gud with auriel
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>>164466441
>push tyrande into a wall
that was hard was it
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>>164465924
I have a picture of someone's feet from this board and I forgot who it belongs to and why I saved it.
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>all of this le ebin shitposting

Jesus christ, just let us die if this is what we're going to be form here on out.
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>>164467063
>christ instead of Christ
>FORM FORM FORM FORM FORM
>bitching about shitposting
>in 2k17
LUL
kys senpai
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You think Rexxar has passionate sex with Misha?
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daily reminder that you should never give up
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>>164467704
>not double teaming bitches with your wild companion
Step it up a notch.
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>>164467745
I remember when Murky was sleeper op
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>>164467745
>Curse
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>>164467892
never had a single issue desu
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Someone redpill me on why it's ok for Medivh to have an unlimited, unkillable scout form
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>>164468865
Because the take 0 damage and portal abilities just aren't even survival sometimes.
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>>164456672
Don't listen to these retards. Master alarak here.
You need the poke build when the enemy team has someone that has a lot of escape ability or hard to get, perfect example is tracer. You wont discord tracer, but she cant escape a point and click ability. And when you go poke build you have most of your sadism as well so it hits like a truck againts squishies in the backline.
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>>164468865
because he's not li ming
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zul'jin WHEN
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>>164471609
Tommorow.
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>get MVP as thrall
>Top Healer 15%
>Best In Game
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>gnomeregan theme starts playing on lobby screen
Is this new? I don't remember the Gnome theme being in HotS.
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>>164471825
>capitalized
>punctuation
>misspells word anyway

I don't get people like you. Triggered like fuck.
>>
WHY DOES THIS GAME RUN LIKE SHIT???

I THOUGHT BLIZZARD WAS KNOWN FOR OPTIMIZING THEIR SHIT WELL!
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>>164473565
welcome to the starcraft 2 engine
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>>164473232
You forgot that he's wrong too.
Zul'jin is coming a day later than normal.
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>>164473232
Deal whit it. :)
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>try to play Tyrande
>can't stop myself from masturbating
How do you guys do it?
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Add PiHKAL#21705, let's play 15 fast games for dat oni genji skin!
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>>164476339
added on zimbabwe
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>>164419892
Have you played any bronze games? I've been teamed up with some of the biggest retards I've ever encountered. I know I'm still learning and, I'm not the greatest at the game yet, but at least I know the basic concepts and strategies for some maps unlike these down syndrome bronze niggaz.
>>
Why do people keep getting mad at me for using Dehaka. He's a good warrior. And this was on Braxis.
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>>164379120
Late reply, but the big difference is how Leoric and Skeleton King look. Leoric is clean while Skeleton King was decaying and falling apart. That's what triggers Chinese people. Not skeletons, but decaying bodies. That's why the Forsaken in WoW for them are basically just ugly grey humans
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>>164476785
>Have you played any bronze games?
nope, plat was my lowest and even then i was teamed with shitters
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>>164476339
added on china
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>>164473565
>I THOUGHT BLIZZARD WAS KNOWN FOR OPTIMIZING THEIR SHIT WELL!
Since when? WC3 era?

Post-WoW Blizzard has never been about proper optimisation.
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>>164477690
>Skeleton King was decaying and falling apart
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>>164477854
Isn't Overwatch really well optimized?
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>>164477854
WoW is one of the best made, as a program, triple A games to date, if not the best.
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>>164478336
Haha, no.

>>164478386
Yeah sure okay.
>>
>qm
>some fag says gg at start of game because of our comp
>end up stomping the enemy team
Every time.
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>>164477690
No, it's because Dota developers were just self-censoring to get the game approved faster to get it on the market. There's no law that forbids skeletons, just general "is it against China's politics and culture" stuff that can be stretched to forbid anything you fucking want. Devs don't want the ministry in charge delaying their releases by up to years over some minor skellington shit that some civic worker happens to dislike, so they cut it out by default.
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>>164478456
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>>164478479

no, not every time faggot. there is a reason the meta champs all have a 60% winrate which is even higher when combined.

you aren't just giving the enemy stronger heroes, you are also dumb enough to not know how the game works.

>win a game you have a 35-40% chance to win
better post about it on reddit...er i mean fourchan

>lose a game against diablo and thrall or raynor and thrall or rheghar and raynor

don't post anything, pretend everything is ok
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>>164478386
>came out in 2003
>struggles to run on highest settings on 2014 hardware
>expacs just make it worse
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>Punisher about to reach their keep
>molten core their fort
>throw down smash on the first person punisher jumps on
>100-0 in 1 second

>get ganked by artanis grab
>4 on 1
>think I'm about to die
>panic ult and get another q off
>get a double kill before I die
>teammates come in and finish the rest off

This game may be buggy, runs like shit and over saturated with shitters, but the shit in this game is twice as satisfying as any other moba.
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>>164478749
Most of the time the faggots saying gg at the start are just Negative Nancys that don't even have an idea of what a good comp is. They just like to cry.
>>
Does "Protection" prevent Blind?
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>>164479474
no but it does prevent aids
>>
So when are they buffing stitches now that artanis does everything he does but better?
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>>164333614
>selendis
>not fenix

Triggered
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>>164474097
Yup. And usually its tuesday, which is today. Zul'jin will release tomorrow, wednsday evening (thursday early morning for EU)
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dam ming is ripped
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>>164477690
Sounds fair to me. I don't play dota desu so I'm not sure how skeleton king looked and what the problem was, but I do play other games and I assure you all of them are region free, you can either pick server or it gets picked based on your ip.

I am considering not playing any Blizz game except for Overwatch just for this very reason, I manage to quit Hearthstone (thanks to Shadowverse) but I already feel too invested in HotS (until I move and I'm forced to leave it behind)
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>>164483851
ming is this game's waifu #1
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Is the Tassadar rework leak legit? I want my highest templar back
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>>164484670
leak where
>>
>been awake 30 hours
>doing something passive will result in falling asleep
>farming heroes on hots to stay awake
Tychus soon level 9
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>>164486293
Wanna explain why you need to stay awake?
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>>164486006
http://www.gosugamers.net/heroesofthestorm/news/42225-data-mined-info-reveals-possible-tassadar-rework-huge-changes
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>>164486615
So I don't wake up in middle of the night and completely fuck up my sleep schedule
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>>164478974
i don't understand why people complain about shitters in hots, i used to play LoL and can confirm it is a lot worse there
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>>164486293
i have almost all of the heroes in 9 except for cho and gall, cause its hard to find a partner that wants to play a lot of them
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>>164488319
Why did you wake up at 1 pm anyways?
>>
>>164478336
Yes it is, it runs on literal toasters >>164478456 just have a blizzard hate boner
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>>164489024
Having a low quality rendering option doesn't mean it runs optimally.

When an i7+GTX1080 slows to a crawl everytime maps like Eichenwalde show up on high settings, it's not that great.
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>>164488935
i'd play them with you
>>
>tfw have many suggestions but cba to post on reddit so just complain about game on 4chan instead
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>>164486708
Seems like amage tass is back, cool
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>>164490524
>>tfw have many suggestions
>implying they would ever be implemented
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>>164467745
>pre season
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>>164490524
>post suggestion on reddit
>get flamed to shit saying that it's by design/intended

I just want teammate frames.
I just want my camera to not snap back to me whenever I hearth.
I just want to know if we're ever going to get a reconnect system that isn't a piece of shit.
>>
>grinding for exp on new f2p rotation
>bot game on Elite
>rest of team is a genji stack with a Sylvanas and Hammer who have been queuing for Elite because losing in 12 minutes is faster than gg pushing on Beginner
Somehow, every time I think I've seen it all, people keep exceeding my expectations.
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>>164491714
>blogging about bot games
I, too, think I've seen it all, and people keep exceeding my expectations.
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>>164491146
>teammate frames
what?

Second one I wholeheartedly agree (pun intented)
Reconnect system though - not gonna happen. Never ever. Unless we get HotS2 in 10+ years.
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>>164490920
look man I know its rare but sometimes I see a post suggesting something and then blue post agreeing
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>>164491848
Please, spare me your incredulity.

We blog about QM and bot games all the fucking time.
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>>164492034
Like, a little portrait with the health/mana of allied players. Preferably with the ability to quickly page to them with a key (f1, f2, etc).

Optional, of course, because apparently it might disrupt the sleek look of our modern hexagonal...thing.

>>164491848
Definitely possible if you're on something like Abathur and/or AFK.
>>
are we dead yet
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>>164494713
We've been dead for a while now, Anon.
>>
>mfw bioshock general is always up and this constantly dies

how do you even have anything to say about elizabeth in 2017? remember that one time she did something in the 8 hour game?
>>
has anyone ever had a game where they actually reached lvl 30

i had a 40+ minute game where we came back and reached lvl 29 but then we won the game
>>
>>164497139
undertale generals are always up too

quantity != quality my friend
>>
>>164497139
>mfw bioshock general is always up
Since when? I haven't seen that general existing or lasting more than 20 posts since last year.
>>
https://twitter.com/Proenix00/status/816230184407990272
>>
>>164497821
>Zul'jin will arrive this week to the nexus
yw amerifats
>>
>Katawa Shoujo General #3239
Wat
>>
>>164498124
but why, did KW get additional content at any point?
>>
>>164498734
Haha, nope. No VA, no additional story. Nothing.
>>
So uh. I have to get 14 games with a friend in before tomorrow

NA
SerWind#1513

Anyone willing to help?
>>
>>164498909
Why do you leave it so late?
>>
>>164498943
I AM NOT A VERY BRIGHT MAN
>>
>>164498779
i'm tempted for a quick peek, will i regret it?
>>
>dumb cunt overfags panicking to get a shit skin in the last day of an event that's been on for months

literally laughing on the flooring Loling
>>
>>164488889

Because in hots you can be steamrolling the entire game and one death on the friendly team means you lose the game, therefore any bad thing that happens ever is amplified times a thousand.
>>
>get chromie or kael'thas in aram
>no all chat to apologize to the other team in
>>
Valeera second tint confirmed.
>>
>>164499325
I want the free heroes and the mount.
>>
>>164499325
I'm conflicted. On one hand, I kind of want the skin. On the other, it's a little too edgy and I'm not sure if it's worth the suffering of 15 matches in a game I don't like.
>>
>>164499541
This is the case in every moba though; late game deaths completely decide the match.

I'd argue it's even worse in League though, because in HotS early deaths only give a slight advantage (unless you're feeding like mad), while dying early in League can basically seal the game.
>>
>>164467745
Just realised i played an ARAM with you yesterday, i was Morales and you were Arthas, we lost
>>
>>164499923
>We have a LoLshill in here
Out. Shoo.
>>
>picking double lava wave over heroic difficulty

and this is why you lose games as ragnaros
>>
>>164500058

I'm sure this game'll take off eventually. One of these years.

Maybe.
>>
>>164499159
It's a shitty english Renpy VN.
It depends on how much you value your cripple fucks, but the game doesn't really provide much in that way either.
I thought it was fine, but certainly not worth the attention everyone paid it. Yes, it was an "/a/-project" except not really, and yes, it's been hyped for like 6 years, but it still did not deserve this flood of normies shitting up everything.
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>tfw ray helps you reaching master league
>>
>>164501493
he-hey man!
>>
>>164501493
I can dig that.
>>
>>164502994
>most of which are 30 second drawn bullshit
Don't even bother.
>>
>>164502994
>Furry OCs
Ruined
>>
>>164499791
That Valeera is thick though
>>
>>164501493
good ol' Jimmy
>>
>>164505129
lamo why did they make Lili into even more of a fucking furry
>>
>>164505129
No. Fuck off cancer.
>>
>>164505129
>race change Li Li
>shave down ETC and make him a pussy
Why do furries ruin everything they touch?
>>
>>164505129
this is objectively shit
i call it out as bait
>>
>>164505129
>this whole image
lol
>li-li
lmao
>>
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>general chat: carry lfg need tank and support
>check his profile
>under 200 games
>many of them are bot games
>under 50% win rate on all maps
>can't play HL yet
>>
>play random hero brawl 3 times
>get butcher every time
what are the odds?
>>
Need 2 more for EU Genji group, add me at Giru017#1136
>>
>all these people who waited until the last minute to do the genji thing

lmao
>>
>>164508645
genji players in a nutshell
>>
>>164508124
mada mada
>>
>>164507517
pretty low
>>
>blackhearts bay
>30 kills to 15
>even in buildings because they have ragnaros and azmo, cool balance blizz
>late game chests spawn
>ping team that im getting bot chest
>team completely ignores top chest and beelines for a 4v5 under fort
>they get free boss and turn in

how am i supposed to carry this?
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Who will win?

Bronzie or not, I fucking love these team combinations at the lower leagues.
>>
>>164509329
You're on blue team, so blue team will lose.
>>
>>164509329

Uh, I want to say Red if the game drags on and isn't horribly lop-sided.

>gold V gaz

bless your soul
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>>164509537
>>164509593
I never doubted it!
>>
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Place ur betz
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>>164511845
>Gold V
>Plat icon

This is most promising.

Also Blue.
>>
>>164511845
Hands down, blue.
>>
hots is preloading the update
patch notes soon
>>
>>164512393
i don't think so, wanna bet?
>>
>69,000 healing done as brightwing
Mmmmm
>>
つ _ ༽つPatchnotes༼ つ _ ༽つ
>>
>>164512952
>>164512619
>>164512393
link plis
>>
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>>164512751
>>
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>>164512005
Whoops, forgot to screenshot.

It was a loss, was going even til our ETC got kicked out the game and AI basically just through itself at the team despite ping management.
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>>164513631
>zagara
>zagara
>zagara
>tracer
>zagara
>rude
>>
>zul'jin launching without going to PTR first

I CAN'T WAIT FOR HOW BROKEN HE WILL BE
>>
>>164514352

At least it's doubtful he'll delay games by 10-15 minutes like Ragnaros.

>tryndamere ult
>in this game
>where people sit in a lane of lava

lmao i can't wait to see the butthurt from all the people baited into dueling him
>>
>>164513631
>Alarak
>Guldan
>Chromie
>Malf
>Guldan
>Fel Queen Chromie
>>
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Place them
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>>164514645
>abathur stitches and li-ming

good grief

it's on red to throw this free win desu gl comrade
>>
>>164514352
I predict he'll either have a bug where something kills him when it shouldn't OR a bug that makes the unkillability last for longer than normal.

Or both.
>>
Falstad still top tier or was he overnerfed? Haven't played in awhile, considering getting him
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>>164514947
Whelp. Should've been prepared for unforeseen consequences.
>>
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>>164515979

Lmao, brilliant.

>when people get tilted over picks in draft

You've just got to roll with it.
>>
>>164333614
>Varimathras
>Ghom
>Cydaea
>Selendis

>DECKARD CAIN
WHAT THE FUCK IS HE GOING TO DO? TELL ME TO STAY A WHILE AND LISTEN?
>>
>>164515967
nerfed global travel, still good
>>
>>164515967

It's hard for him to fit into a lot of comps now, but overall he's not bad. Still a good counter to hard engage teams.
>>
>still no fucking range indicators for Gazlowe's turrets

AHHHHH BLIZZARRRRD
>>
>>164516248
He's gonna sit in base like Abathur and narrate the game
>>
>>164516443
? I see the outlines all the time, unless you're talking about when they're up.
>>
>PTR has started an update
so all those posts on twitter about `Zuljin this week no PTR` are bullshit?
>>
>>164516248
That's one of his ults. It will function similar to ETCs Mosh Pit, only it will daze them.
>>
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Take ur pets
>>
>>164518269
red
>>
>>164517797
why would blizz open the PTR and release zul'jin in the same week tho
>>
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>>164518269
Each side has a crazy potential for bottlenecking a giant chokepoint for decades.
If that Li-Ming gets on Malf's ass you're not gonna have a good time. That Jaina will have trouble killing literally anyone with Brightwing being a bitch.
>>
>>164518548
yours is basically my post but worded differently
>>
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>people buy heroes for 15k gold instead of waiting 2 weeks

making me have a laugh out lol
>>
>>164518828
>poorfags

HAHAHAHA
>>
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>>164518828
>nexus bundle giving out a bunch of relatively recently released 10k Heroes for free

Pretty glad I'm stingy and don't spend gold on anything other than Heroes recently reduced in price.

>really tempted to buy azmodan
>ehh lets wait maybe he'll drop to 7000 in a few releases
>from 10,000 to 2,000

>>164519013
>throwing money/gold away on a hero that'll be permaban status unless it's straight garbo

To each their own.
>>
>>164517797
The update is for the live game not ptr
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>>164518552
Here are the results.
>>
>>164519145
ptr updated as well, but you can't play on it, it says version mismatch

patch notes, when? ;_;
>>
>>164518828
>he missed out on the free wins with rag

lmao
>>
>>164519504
5k of fake money are better.
>>
>>164486708
reddit has more info about this leak
>>
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/
HAPPENING
>>
>>164520931

>wont load

??????
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>>164519365
So you basically just destroyed them before their late game sustainability kicked in. Called those Jaina deaths though.
>>
>no mewn stream
>no horsepants stream

reeee i dont wanna watch chu
>>
>>164521585
>watching streams
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>silenced azmodan on my team
>14k damage in 20 minutes
>he picked sieging wrath and didn't complete it in 20 minutes
>he adds me to his friend list after the game
yeah fuck off
>>
>>164521585
>na/eu hots streams

ew
>>
>>164521687
as opposed to? korean ching chong streams?
>>
>>164521585

mewn was just streaming with pallyfat and kiydumpster on tgn
>>
>>164521683
thanks for sharing
>>
>>164521779
yeah and those streams are boring as shit
>>
>>164521772
>as opposed to actual good players?
Yes.
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>>164521954
np
nice to know people are interested
>>
>>164521991
>watching autismos instead of just watching entertaining people
>>
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Forgot to post match up.
>>
>>164522475

>mewn
>entertaining

He's shit though and all he knows is tier list OP faggot heroes.
>>
>>164522475
>mewn
>horsepants
>chu
>entertaining

Okay, you got me.
>>
>>164521991
would you watch others fuck your wife if they were professionals?
>>
>>164522631
>the most popular streamers are not entertaining
>>
Anyone willing to help me grind out 15 AI matches for the genji skin?
>>
what does anon think about league of legends? I never played it but I'm a bit tired of hots and wanna take a break... is it worth even downloading or is as shitty as people say it is?
>>
>>164522631
>being gold at hots
>bitching about top streamers being bad at hots
ok buddy
>>
>>164522862
it combines the drag of dota with the casualness of hots
it's the worst of all worlds
>>
>>164522862

Uh, besides the initial leveling process and rune costs I'd say it's better than Hots in most regards.

>>164522869
>gold in hots
What.

>>164522781
Literally what.
>>
>>164522825
>>164455924
>>
>>164456486
You still looking for a butt buddy?
>>
>>164523232
People on here are... weird. Guys will complain they have nobody to play with. I will offer to play with them ever. time. And they never reply.
>>
>queue up HL at 3am
>get matched vs grubby

fuggg
wish me luck lads
>>
>>164523689
grubby's so bad even I got matched against him
>>
>>164523689

His weakness is baiting. He's a very aggressive and techincally skilled player, but he falls for easy traps a lot. Trick him and you'll do fine.

Also, he's not the best but he can draft with the pros. He's knows his shit but he's not pro.
>>
>>164522940
>>164523108

It sounds weird to me that heroes are balanced around one single map, that has to make some heroes op and some useless since you have like 20 or so for each position that are supposed to do the same thing.

>Uh, besides the initial leveling process and rune costs I'd say it's better than Hots in most regards.

but... that's not what blizzfags on reddit told me
>>
>>164524531

Eh, sort of. There are always Heroes that are better than others, especially with the kits of recently released Champions, but most things are viable.

>rip nidalee

And it also comes down to personal preference. One may detest League and love Hots, or vice versa. To each their own.

It's also rough finding people who are willing to be objective in drawing comparisons between any "competing" games because of the massive bias there often tends to be.
>>
are all hots streamers shit then?
>>
>>164524531

It's a completely different game. Both games are MOBAS but that's about where the singularities end.

The pacing, the hero balance, the team compositions, the roles, progression, game length, priorities, etc, etc the list goes on.

I can't say which is better, I just enjoy more things about heroes than I do about League, you'll have to try for yourself and make that judgment on your own.
>>
>>164525158

If you ask anyone on 4chan anything the immediate response regardless of what it is will be "it's shit".

Like what you like, who cares.
>>
>>164525196
>about where the singularities end.
Similarities, anon.

For the record, LoL is an objectively bad game as a whole.
>>
>>164524064
>>164524245
GRUBBY WON
>>
>>164525379

Auto spell, sorry.
>>
>>164523689

Sorry you got matched against that Jaina anon, she carried hard
>>
>my team
>first picks are all assassins
>opponent
>first picks are tanks and supports

WHY
JUST FUCKING PICK REHGAR YOU STUPID FUCKING IDIOTS IT'S A MUCH BETTER PICK THAN EASILY REPLACABLE ASSASSIN #47
>>
>>164525379
> LoL is an objectively bad game as a whole.

Care to expand on this?

>>164525556

Because everybody is convinced their teammates are bad and they need to play damage-dealers to "carry".
>>
>>164525019
>>164525196
>>164525379

Thanks for the insights anons,
I don't know if I'll go through it and download it though, things like runes put me off quite a bit, but I'll keep it there just in case.
>>
>>164525860
Nah, I've explained it over and over. I've nearly 4k hours on the turd.

Basically the game was great in beta/release and since then has slowly gotten worse and worse in nearly every aspect--it slowly eroded away over time.

Tried it again recently and it's just as bad as ever. A gem was found, though; Jhin. That's about all the good I've seen that's new and came out the past ~2 years. I'd play it again if it had a very amusing and unorthodox hero like Techies. Other than that, the game's extremely poor to play. Also I don't get how people think LoL is far harder than other MOBA--it isn't. You can carry in it unlike in HotS. One bad player on your team in HotS = instalose.
>>
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>>164525556
>>164525860

Whoops. Meant to say then you've also got the "what does the latest tier list say" that pick whatever's good and can't play it.

I don't know. It's a weird mix of people. Just have to make do with what you get, even if it's a first pick Abathur on Tomb.

>>164525916

Yeah, Runes are awful. Imagine having to spend 40-50 thousand gold in Hots just on little things to give you (mostly) early game advantages. Just something put in there to get you to spend $$ on champs.

Also; no ranked until max level, which takes a few hundred games.

>>164526136
>jhin

My dude.

I'm happy we're getting another auto-attacker in hots. Hope he feels good.
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>>164526268
Jhin made me extremely excited when I discovered him. Basically read everything about him, listened to all of his lines then bought him. I really really like him. A bit of a shame he's an AD Mage/ADC since EVERY CUNT plays "m-muh adc! :^)" But his design in general is A-grade at least. It's just a shame he's stuck in such a shit-hole of a game.

Honourable mentions for Shaco and Kassadin--my other two bros.
>>
i sure like playing nova with an auriel and medivh around

quick play is fucking dumb

medivh is fucking dumb
>>
>>164526991
>quick play
>play
It's quick match, anon. Match.
>>
>>164527043
thanks reddit

he wouldn't have made any sense without your help
>>
>>164527307
>get called out
>uh..r-reddit! y-yeah that sure showed him! haha ;_;
>>
>>164527396
some one else is calling you out for being a faggot
>>
>>164527448
Sure. Whatever makes you feel better. If some random pixels on your screen please you, then go ahead.
>>
>>164527396
>call someone out for a minute detail that's not even worth touching on
>surprised when you get labelled as reddit
>>
>>164527512
how many cocks do you dip into your mouth weekly?
>>
>>164527846
No need to feel competitive.
>>
>>164525524
its all good, I got jaina the next match and she carried me :^)
>>
>>164525860

Watch dunkey's video on why he quit. It's goofy and silly but he has some good points too.
>>
>>164527396
>basically the equivalent of calling somebody out for a typo, or their misuse of "You're"
>not literally rebbit
>>
>>164528098
>getting this defensive over something factual
reminds me of sjw tbqh
>>
>>164528158
your a sjw
>>
>>164527396

Hah, wow.

>>164528069

I might've seen that one, actually. Getting banned over flaming the Malphite?
>>
>>164528271
Yaw*
FTFY

>>164528345
Thanks for the gold kind stranger.
>>
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Alarak did camps all game. This game was miserable and embarassing. We couldn't win a single team fight. I was stun locked thirty different ways every fight.
>>
>>164528069
Is that the one where he ragequit, screamed about how garbage riot, the game, and everything is, quit forever, and then was back to streaming League a week later?
>>
>>164528546
>alarak jungle
>of all heroes

good grief i'm sorry
>>
>>164528591
"Bind these mercenaries to our service" was heard at least 14 times that game.

I saw him AAing for like, 20 seconds while the entire team was dead.
>>
>>164528787
>>164528787
>>164528787
new bread
migrate whenever
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