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/eagg/ - East Asian Genocide General - Samurai and Blu Meng Edition

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What we know so far:
-Dynasty Warriors 9 confirmed.
-Zhou Cang is playable, Shu officer.
-DW9 will be open world. We may or may not get a lot of newcomers. Everyone from 8XL and Xun Yu from Empires will return.
-Musou Stars may or may not replace Warriors Orochi.
-Berserk Musou is around the corner for the west, 2017 release.
-Koei-Tecmo has more games to announce this year, potentially during the Nintendo Switch Direct.
-Sanadamaru confirmed for localization.
-We're still ded.
-Xiaoqiao is best girl.
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Reminder that Cao Cao is the scion of filthy eunuchs.
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Zhenji is best girl.
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>>164444504
t. Liu "WE WUZ HANS" Bei
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>>164444830
False and Wrong, Lingqi is Best Girl.
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>>164444830
northern girls > southern girls
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>>164444118
Oh how I missed you, /eagg/. Finally, I'm home.
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>>164445826
Welcome back.
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I'm at an impasse.

I can't take the castle to the Right, because my only helpful ally just can't cut it, and I sure as hell can't do it ALONE. Every time we try to go at them, we get stomped by the defending officers, and that's not even counting the one guy who shows up after the fact with 10,000 troops.

I can't do ANYTHING here, so how the hell do I proceed?
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>>164447770
You don't have to expand right next to your starting castle. Perhaps try going west or north? marriages are also a thing so if you're worried about them stomping you raise their trust to 100 and get a marriage so they won't fuck with you and might help you out later.
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>>164448903
The game won't let me attack the nearest castle north, and to the west is my only ally.

Screw it, I don't like being all traitor-y, but if I'm gonna get anywhere I have no choice.
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>>164449443
>game won't let me attack northern castle
what do you mean? You don't have to use the military tab to attack. What you can do is click on the castle and a fan will appear above it. click the fan and it will ask you how many troosp and in what formations you want to deploy. Once deployed you can order the formation around wherever you want.
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>>164449789
Ah.

Well, that's much more helpful, isn't it?

Well, not like it makes much difference. All other castle nearby are much stronger than Nagashima
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>>164447770
Since it looks like your next to Oda, perhaps try waiting for Imagawa to start taking their territory on their march to the capital? This is assuming you started at the Birth of Nobunaga start. AI Oda usually sucks and gets steamrolled so you can use that opening to take a few castles. On my custom playthrough as a few Dynasty warriors I've almost managed to eliminate Hojo, but I'm completely surrounded. I grew to fast so Takeda, Hojo, Date, Nagoya, and a few smaller clans have formed a coalition against me. Gonna have to wait it out and hope Hojo doesn't expand while the coalition is active as Takeda and Date have good officers that can stave off my assaults.
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>>164444118

I want a samurai princess
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Yosh!
There's not a lot of healing items around.
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>>164452145

Being Mitsunari is suffering
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>>164444118
>Dynasty Warriors 9 Announced As A New “Rebirth” And Open World Title


Wait what? Im all for revitalizing the franchise after 7 hacky slashies plus spinoffs but is "open world" the way to go.

A giant explorable China to conquer could be cool a fuck if done right, but I worry we're hoping on the wrong trend
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>>164453672
Knowing KT, DW9 will probably end up OK, with the open-world being implemented not to it's full potentinal but not completely shit, and will be met with lukewarm reception by the fans. I just don't see how the game could be truly open-world while still trying to convey a focused story. That said we still have no information on the game and it probably won't be released till a few months after Musou stars.
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>>164452421
Fuck him, Masanori's hurting the most. I love that loudmouthed bastard. ;_;
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>>164453868
>Musou stars.

That reminds me

>Maria Rose and Honkers added

Im not surprised. Im annoyed beyond all measure but Im not surprised.
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>>164454136
At least I have Rio
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>>164454458
Why is she even in the game? Does she have anything with KT?
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>>164454606
Part of Tecmo's Super Blackjack games.
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>>164454606

Tecmo makes Super Black Jack she even was in the DOAX game for PSP
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maybe giant chinese tiddies will revitalize the thread
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>>164455910
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>>164454136
>Maria Rose and Honkers added

>Im not surprised. Im annoyed beyond all measure but Im not surprised.

Same, they've forced the toddler pedobait shitters non stop for pedbucks and it's gotten way out of hand and beyond simply annoying now because they're now forcing them as the new MC face of DOA as a whole when it's a desperate cash grab. They've forever ruined DOA with this shit.
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>>164456753

the sad part is I used to defend them for their gameplay and it being largely harmless fun. now it's just creepy.
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>>164457385
I consider them to be the breakout characters for the series. Honkey having the largest tits apparently and Marie being the anti-thesis of the entire series. Of course they were gonna push them, just like they shove Yuanji and Sanada in everything. It's amazing Zhao Yun didn't get sidelined.
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>>164457712
That's because Zhao Yun is the face of Dynasty Warriors. Of course he's got the limelight.
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>>164457712

Did you just compare Yukimura "I was a popular and influential historical figure for centuries" Sanda to pedobait and moeblob #78456-C Because fuck you. Seriously, commit sepukku.

Yukimura is here for a reason. Those two, things are the lowest common denominator otaku trash
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>>164459241
I must agree. No matter how you look at it, Literally Legendary Figures > Pedobait and Moeblobs.
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>>164459241
YUKIMURA
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>>164459241
>filename is yukimura_sanda
Anyway, I wish that the upcoming Sanadamaru has writing as good as the anime second half. Most of SW4's stories are pretty disappointing to me.
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>>164460017

My familiarity with the sengoku isn't quite that of ROTK but man I was not expecting that much sad sackery
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>Page 10
Liao Hua in DW fucking never
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look at this dude

they took a shit character and made him the best in the series, why can't they do this for everyone else?
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>>164464901
Yukimura has never been shit, he's bland at worst, not shit. There are a lot shittier characters than him in the series, like Mitsunari for example.
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>>164464901
>>164465107
Well, some would argue that bland is far worse than just being unlikable. Even a negative emotion is a sign that the audience cares, but apathy is the worst possible result.
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>>164465568
To each his own, I guess. But then you get characters like Mitsunari, who is so shit that he himself admit his shittiness, and yet he still has characters that flock over to him. I consider those kinds of characters to be worse than the bland ones.
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>>164465793
True enough. I haven't actually had the chance to play a Samurai Warriors game yet, so I'll refrain from any serious judgments therein until that day comes, but if what you say is true then I must agree; Being shit is one thing, being a POPULAR shit is another.
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>>164465793
Why do you call Mitsunari shit?
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>>164465926
Okay then, I'll share a little of my opinion then. Musou games have always has bad characterization, mostly due to the size of the roster, but SW suffers from it a lot more than DW for some reason.

Mitsunari is supposed to be a genius with a personality so blunt that that it earns him animosity from others, but the game fails to show off his genius, instead everytime he's on screen, he constantly fuck up and has to be bailed out by others characters, he himself lament about this during the seige of Odawara. And about his personality, his bluntness sometimes comes off as genuine mockery, yet other characters just shrug and be like "Oh, that's just Mitsunari being a tsundere".

And god forbid mentioning Kanetsugu, who's basically Ma Chao on steroid.
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Nobunaga's Ambition is one of the best strategies I've ever played, holy shit. I conquered, like, 1/4th of Japan, but those guys, Hojo, are ridiculously powerful. They keep rolling out 10-15 thousand armies, and my maximum is only 8k. What should I do?
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>>164466330
Make a marriage alliance with them, and go around conquer the rest of Japan until you're at least 2 times more powerful than them. No, seriously, the Hojo's land gives them massive advantage in both economy and man power compared to any other clans in the game. Don't go challenge them too soon, unless you're very confident in doing Kessen with them.
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>>164466330
You don't, by this time the game grounds to a halt as neither of you will ever be capable of putting more than a dent into your defenses, unless you somehow manage to create a massive coalition of minors to the west while gathering a million supplies in the border castles that will be able to feed the armies you're going to amass from your whole territory.

Knowing how to efficiently play in the battles is good too, since you can use this to punch through the frontline in one place and use the opening to mass siege their castles while their main armies are still tied up with the rest of your forces.
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>>164466330
Goddamn Hyrulians, stealing all our Rice and Gold...
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>>164466245
SB characterization is better than SW characterization for every single character prove me wrong
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>>164468734
>OYAKATA-SAMA
>YUKIMURA
>OYAKATA-SAMA
>YUKIMURA
Yeah, so much better.
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>>164468952
yeah it really is
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>>164467392
Accept the Goddess as your savior and all will be well.
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>>164467392
i think they're just hylians
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>>164459241
>>164458678
Maybe I was wrong to use them as a comparison. But for me, I don't tend to care for characters that the game or the devs want you to like. >>164465107 said it best. He's bland and doesn't really stand out to me too much. Going back to my point, the characters that are shoved in your face constantly over half of the time, are not likeable or are boring compared to the supporting cast. I can give a musou-related example, pic related. She gets more weapons than almost all the cast save for Link and DLC Zelda, she's the focus of the entire game with Link reminding you it's a Zelda title and until Legends, her wearing the Skull Kid costume pissed me off. We could have gotten him with the Majora pack. But then Linkle came along and managed to make her tolerable. Ironically, I like Lana better when she's Xiaoqiao and limited to non-story stages. Basically, I'm a fan of the less popular characters. Seems a bit hipsterish, but I like some flavor here and there.

I'm still ankle deep in SW, so maybe my opinion will change on Sanada, but so far, I'm not interested in him, and I'm damn sure not a Mitsunari fan. If I could, I'd swap him out for Masanori or anyone else.
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>>164466768
>Knowing how to efficiently play in the battles is good too
About that, is there a point in manually controlling battles, or the auto-resolve is fine? Generally, I lose more men in the manual mode, but maybe I'm just retarded?
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>>164472595
I sorta agree that it's better to just auto-resolve. Only time I actually control battles is if it's a mass battle with over 40k troops involved or I need the battle to end quickly (controlling battles on the field usually ends faster game-time wise than auto-resolve)
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>>164472595
The only clue that I found is that the AI is pretty easy to bait, so sacrificing one fast unit (preferably ally or tribal) to lure them into a musketeer crossfire with cavalry making a large detour and hitting them in their backs.
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>10
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>>164479449
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>>164479449
>>164479558
Damn, beat me to it.
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>>164479558
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Why there's still no RotK game with Dynasty Warriors-style battels? DW Empires' economic system is too basic.
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>Sun Jian died early
>Sun Ce died early
>Zhou Yu died early
>Lu Su died early(?)
>Lu Meng died early
ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR. Why do bullies like Liu Bei get to live a long life but Wu lads die young???
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>>164482030
Wu niggas live a rugged life.
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>>164482030
>Zhang Liao dies from an arrow to the groin
Talk about unfair
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>>164472585
I can agree.

I think 9 times out of 10, the problem is that the devs try so hard to make one character POPULAR, but wind up not giving them any real character out side of the dev's checklist of "Reasons we want you to like this character", while other, side characters get actual, y'know, characterization.

They're so busy making someone popular that they forget to make them interesting, and all that left over interestingness goes into side characters, so we naturally gravitate more towards them.
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On further inspection, it seems that Wei is actually sorta fucked. While Wei has lodes of soldiers, a lot of their officers are either sick and dying or already ded. While the all-stars like Yu Jin, Cao Ren, and Xiahou Dun are still alive many of the competent but lesser know officers have died. Even worse is that Wu still has Zhou Yu and Lu Su who refuse to die and have been successfully destroying Wei skrimishing forces with ease. After pestering Cao Cao for quite a while, I've been put in charge of about 90k men to finish off the Yuan state up north.
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>>164483037
Sometimes I'm convinced it's intentional.
They want to make someone the audience can identify with and self-insert as, and they figure this will work instead of a personality.
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After taking Gangling, I've decided to try and bait Yuan Shuan's forces into pincering my main force. My plan is to have secondary armies capture the undefended commadaries cut off the enemy forces while I hold them off at the village of Guangchang for as long as possible. Hopefully the eastern forces can pincer 110k enemy forces from behind but if they can't then the center forces can just retreat.
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With victory at the battle of Guangchang Yuan resisentce is now negligable and secondary forces are sweeping across the northern plains to capture the remaining commanderies. Drunk off victory, Cao Cao launches a 140k attack on Wu even against my advice. Lu Su, Taishi Ci, and Zhou Yu are all present and combined form about a 120k force, but Wei's only compenent commanders in the attack are Sima Yi and Cao Ren who are lagging behind. I really don't think the attack is going to go well and it just invites Shu to be a dick and take some castles.
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>>164486409
This is gonna be Hefei all over again?

If only Guo Jia were here...
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>>164486409
I guess those headaches are taking their toll.
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>>164487139
>>164487350
as expected, it was a crushing defeat for Wei. With the defeat at Shouchun the other warlords have become emboldened and united against Cao Cao. We are in a state of total war, and yet msot councilors want a strong domestic policy so I had to engage in a heated debate so we don't fall behind militarily. Not pictured is another 130 marching to Xiapai. Wei is in a bad spot
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>>164488285
Perhaps now would be a good time to go green and try for an underdog win?
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Sun Quan the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJms1CGHjn8
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>>164489232

why is sun quan a cute anime girl
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>>164489569
Cause why not?

And that's Luo Tianyi, a Chinese vocaloid.
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The coalition has taken 3 cities so far, and is currently launching a 5-pronged attack with the aim of taking the emperor in Xuchang, or at least surrounding the city from the west east and south. I personally am leading the defense of Xuchang and sent out proposals to at least defend the cities attacked by Wu in the east. Luoyang, the target of the brown dudes from the west, have gates defending them which I hope slows down the enemy advance enough to mobilize a force from above the yellow river
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>>164489994

>38
What is that and why is it even trying.
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>>164490483
the dark green is Liu Bei and friends. it says 38 because Liu Bei took all troops out of the city to attack Cao Cao. combined with the 32k in Runan Liu Bei has about 80k men to his name.

The defense of Luoyang was a complete success thanks to Sima Yi, so much that the forces tasked to defend it can go on the counter-offensive against the imbeciles to the west. Xuchang is in a deadlock with more and more troops pouring in on both sides. Langyae and Qiao are now safe but Taishi Ci is trying to force a breakthrough at Xiapai but is being held off by Zhange Liao
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In good news, the north has been compeltely subjugated and many officers that had served under Yuan Shao/Shang have started in integrate and join Wei. The front has stabilized with all 5 cities being held for now but Wu is gathering forces around Shouchun to prepare for another assault. I have to end it here for today as I just received an email saying that I have outstanding fees that will result in me getting dropped from classes for spring semester.
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Hows dynasty warriors online? There was discussion about it last thread about playing the JP version since English servers got shut down.
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>>164493617

No clue, but it's available to download on the PS4 store. I think the PC version is still playable in JP too.
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>/eagg/ blindly fumbiling through a japanese only mmo

Sounds like fun.
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>>164494107
Its not like the gameplay would be complex or difficult. Just mash square and occasionally triangle. Since /eagg/ is a Wei general we would all join the same kingdom and fight/help each other out in english.
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>>164494349

>/eagg/
>join wei

Anon.......
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>>164494685
Now, now. You can join another faction, don't you worry. Just get ready to be attacked with extreme prejudice.
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>>164472585
>Maybe I was wrong to use them as a comparison. But for me, I don't tend to care for characters that the game or the devs want you to like.

Well I generally agree too, but that's really the whole annoying point. There are a lot cooler DOA fighters out there and yet the game has ostensibly become the Maria and Honk show. Hell the game hasn't even revealed there stories yet as far as I know. And this goes ditto for NyoTengu whose existence raises all kinds of questions but "MUH ARA ARA" fags

These characters are being horned in left in right and even series originals Lei Fang and Tina got benched for X3? That's BS.

And Ill be blunt, a lot of the old characters aren't immune to this either. I cannot stand Kasumi. Her whole role in the story is basically to be the special snow flake princess who exists to make sad doe eyes everywhere and have the whole cast tell her how great she is except Ayane who gets yelled out for doing her job.
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>>164498821
I see where you're coming from. And I cannot stand the Mary Sue archtype. Does she have any flaws or is she just that perfect?
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Is it me or is the pike in DW8 really good? on switch you become ridiculously fast and do extra damage from your phantom for like a solid 5 seconds and can easily kill an enemy officer in a single combo.
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>>164501606
>Pike
meant halberd
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>>164501410
>Does she have any flaws or is she just that perfect?

if she does they're in the endearing way. "OH you ran off from our clan, you're not impulsive and reckless you're strong and brave"
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>>164502483

Is DOA's story worth getting into? I quite enjoyed what 5 had to offer. What's the order for games story wise?
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>>164464901
>>shit character

Somebody never got the true ending in SW1. I'll agree he was mediocre in 2 and 3 though.
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>>164502646

Not really. Even as far as fighting games go it's retarded and Im someone who loves fighting game story modes.

It jumps around way to much to things that are frankly irrelivent and it's full of those weird..how to describe it..anime motions.
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>>164505508
>anime motions
I don't mean this as an insult, but are you new here?
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>>164505948

Look I really don't know how else to put it. The characters just act weird and nonsensical. Not even cartoony.
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>>164506516
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>>164506803

I will never understand retard moe
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>>164468734
>>164469147
no
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>>>/v/362712660
Threads been up for less then an hour and it's already has 2/3 as many posts as /eagg/.
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>>164509103
Well /v/ is one of the biggest boards and Nintendo fans are a plenty.
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>>164509103
>Nintendo fags flock to an imagine of their deity like moths to a flame

gee you don't say
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>>164505267
Everyone was cool in 1
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>>164506803
Is that the kimono girl

I like kimono girl
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>>164483037
>>164483337
I remember reading somewhere that the devs were surprised Wang Yuanji became so popular so quickly. As in, people kept asking tons of questions about her soon after her design was revealed, well before the game was actually released.

Zhao Yun and Yukimura being popular is a near given (heroic somewhat-self-insert poster boys), but there's something about Yuanji that just made her click with the fans. I've read similar sentiments about /m/'s Lord and Savior.
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>>164501606
>>164502023
Other weapons can kill officers faster with elements, but Halberd's switch attack buff makes it a top contender for face wrecking.
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>>164511459
>Busty blonde tsundere waifu is popular
Golly gee who'd a thunk it?
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>>164513364
>tsundere
I don't get this, Yuanji never act like a tsundere to me, she's more like an ice queen if anything. The only time she acts like a tsundere is when she got to meet Sima Zhao again at the start of WO3.
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>>164513364
Kuudere, not tsun. Know your deres
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Did that RoTK 13 PuK ever get released? From what I read it looked really good with the new fame system, titles, and more stategic/tactical managment. Was it one of those "japan only" deals?
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>>164489232
The voice actually sounds pretty good for a vocaloid. What the heck, I like Chinese rip-off now.

>>164514909
It got delayed to Feb 16 in Japan, it will be at least half a year for it to get a localiztion.
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>>164456579

Tiger blood
Tiger blood
Radioactive tiger blood
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>10
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>>164517726
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Weiryan, Shu Han(glo), Literally Whu?

Choose one you think is the best

And don't choose Shu or Wu
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How about making a pastebin for the general that includes information on the various games? We will probably ded soon, but it would be nice to have a base for when Musou stars get released and we get close to DW9 release.
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>>164521362
Almost everyone here knows everything about every game plus the related historical literature
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>>164521513

We need something acceptable for newfags though, and it would help keep us from being ded by working together on something. I can help out on the history section.
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>>164521841
NO FUCK THE NEWFAGS
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>>164521841
What should we put in the pastebin though? Anything about the games can be easily find by googling, and anything history-related is just to broad to be included.

>>164521867
Not that I want to defend newfags or something, but that's not how generals work.
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>>164521867
I agree. By fucking the newfags, we will grow corrupt and complacent much like late Han dynasty. Eventually the newfags will rise up in rebellion and depose us, throwing /eagg/ into chaos and allowing anons both new and old to become warlords and compete to become emperor.
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>>164522004
This is not a general, this is a commandery under Shu

That's why it's dead
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>>164521841
History section will be counter productive, people would just skip it and ask here or anywhere else anyway (and it helps for this thread not to die)
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>>164522004

Answers to FAQ's like

>What's the best game to start with
>What order should I play the story mode in
>difference between DW,SW, and WO?
>Where can I read up on the real world counterparts of the various characters?

Stuff like that I suppose.
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>>164522182
Go away, Cow Cow.

>>164522293
I see.

>What's the best game to start with
So for DW series, the best games to start would be either 5 or 7, since they introduce characters a lot better than other games, avoid 6. For SW, either 2 or 4, for the same reason, avoid 3 and 4-II. For ROTK, either X for the roleplay or XI for the grand strategy.

>What order should I play the story mode in
For DW5 just go withever whoever looks cool would be best, there's a list of who to play to unlock all the characters the fastest on gamefaqs, I'll look it up and added it in later. For DW7, go with whichever kingdom, but save Jin for last. SW2 is the same with DW5. SW4 should be the same with DW7, but save the Legend of Sanada and Legend of a land united last.
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>>164523006

Yeah that's a good base, if anyone else has any good questions that should be added to the pastebin feel free to chime in.

Maybe

>What are the warriors games about?

Alot of people get the wrong idea because of modern media dismissing them as buttonmashers, so it might be good to explain why we like them
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>>164523006
(cont)

>difference between DW,SW, and WO?
DW is set in the turbulent years towards the end of the Han dynasty and the Three Kingdoms period in Chinese history, while SW is in the warring period of Japan. And WO is a massive crisis crossover between the 2 series, and in WO3 case, even feature characters from other series.

The core gameplay is the same, you mash square most of the time and occasionally triangle or circle. DW has more playable characters, while SW offer more diversity between characters, and WO obviously is the mix of the 2.

>Where can I read up on the real world counterparts of the various characters?
Either google the characters and read their profile on wiki, or go to this guy's tumblr: https://the-archlich.tumblr.com/

>>164523340
I can think up some more questions

>If WO is effectively the mix of both DW and SW, then wouldn't it just be better to only play WO and ignore the other 2?
>What about the anime musou games? Are they good?
>Which game to play next after I've already played the reccomended games
>Any Three Kingdoms or Sengoku-related media that I should get into?
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>>164523743

Yeah that's what the pastebin should look like, good work anon.
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Should I get Nobunaga's Ambition Sphere of Influence or Ascension? I heard there was a gamebreaking bug re: the AI and lumber in Ascension, is that true?

Also is the PS4 version complete garbage/will I miss out by not getting for PC? Normally I would get it on PC like 99% of games but I want something I can play on my couch and my PS4 has been neglected for a while.
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>>164523926
You can get a mouse and keyboard for ps4 my man
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Started this in 184. War against the Yellow Turbans took a long time, time enough for everyone to get pissed off at He Jin and declare war on him. Eventually the three brothers were executed in battle, and He Jin decided to distribute territory to set up regional warlords, who also declared war on him.

Now were stuck facing off against ever other faction simultaneously. It's dead even, except for Sun Jian. He failed to take any territory from the Yellow Turbans, choosing instead to set out from Xia Pi and absorb the free cities around him, then declaring war on Han. After the Yellow Turban rebellion was crushed, He Jin moved him to Chang Sha. He promptly declared war again and built the Kingdom you see here. He's looking to expand into Shu it seems, and I don't think Dong Zhuo or Liu Zhang can stop him.

I was appointed Governor of Jiangling, but I could only delay Sun Jian's conquest by winning a few battles before he got his act together and invaded with all his might. Didn't help that we were attacked from behind by Liu Biao, either. Now I've been appoint Prefect of Lu Jiang, a small city without much development in the military or domestics. For the moment I'll have to focus more on Liu Biao and Liu Bei, but I'm expecting Sun Jian to be the real threat. Sun Ce killed my friend Dong He so I've sworn eternal vengeance, and half my friends were taken prisoner when we lost Jiang Ling. It looks like we have a ways to go.
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>>164523817
Okay, I'll try to create a pastebin later tonight when I'm free and post again for opinions.

>>164523926
Get Ascension, it's basically an improved SoI, the only thing missing from it is the event gallery which was present in SoI.

>I heard there was a gamebreaking bug re: the AI and lumber in Ascension, is that true?
Not really a bug, but the AI is just too dumb to use the iron and lumber effectively in the game, also the AI in Ascension bound to do more stupid shit than in SoI for some reasons.
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>>164524124
>that Wu
RIP you.
>>164523926
I went to the reviews on steam and cropped some of the negatives. While nothing "gamebreaking" they can be annoying. Ascension had a really shitty launch, even for a KT game, but just about all of the issues have been fixed but I don't know if the AI lumber/iron use has been
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>>164523743
I'd rather you put in xuesanguo than archlich, that guy's got a massive hateboner for Shu that gets in the way of reading his "analyses."

Or put them both in.

>>164524168
Maybe add which games are available/emulatable on PC?
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>>164524124

Who are you playing as?

>>164526040

Xuesangou is pretty hard to read unless your a hardcore historyfag though. Archlich seems easier to read for a musou player.

Shu is shit anyways so the bies is deserved :^)
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>>164524124
There's been a breakthrough in the north. Yuan Shao was slain by Gan Ning (who assisted me in the defense of Jiang Ling), and now the forces of the Han are carving up the domains of Yuan Shao and Liu Bei. Zhang Liao is joining in as well, attacking Yuan Shao Territory.

In the meantime, I've been transferred to be Prefect of Han Zhong. Looking forward to Fighting Ma Teng and Sun Jian.
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>>164528581
I'm still not sure about how I feel on turning battle deaths on/off. On one hand it makes sense that someone in battle has the chance at getting killed, but if someone like Sun Quan dies it fucks everything up and the whole game will get derailed. I hope the PuK gives us more control over options like tuning the death rate or options on who is allowed to die a-historically.
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>>164528581
>Yuan Shao was slain by Gan Ning
He did it, the absolute madman.

>>164529134
The death rate in 13 is really high for some reason. In other instalments, I'd be able to go through the game with only a handful of characters being killed, but in 13, almost every other battle is a bloodbath.
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>>164528581
Another coalition has formed against He Jin, who was given the title of King after he subjugated the forces of the Yuan family and Liu Bei. Now Sun Jian is leading 120k each against Zitong and Yuzhang. I've been tasked with going to Zitong's aid, but Ma Teng is sending troops to interfere. I assumed Yan Xing was also advancing against Han Zhong so I pulled back, but now I see he holding his position to block efforts to relief Zi Tong. He'll have to be cleared if the city is to hold.

>>164529134
Sun Quan dying is a good way to make things interesting, but I agree that if it happened to often it would spoil things. Haven't played enough to decide which way it goes.
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>>164529995
Bao Xin is commanded the second division of the army. Together we've surround the warriors of Xiliang and should be able to clear the road without worry.
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>>164530380
>should be able to clear the road without worry
Oh no, you don't. Just you wait and see when Ma Teng decide to send the endless reinforcements your way.
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OH FUCK IT'S PANG DE
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>>164530789
THE ENEMY CRINGES IN FEAR!
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>>164530789

YAN XING CAPTURED BAO XIN AND SCATTERED HIS TROOPS; I'VE LOST HALF MY ARMY

HELP
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>>164531073
Sound the gong, retreat!
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>>164531073
It's Zhao Yun! We're saved!
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>>164531258
fuck year based zhao yun
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>>164530789
>>164531073
In DW when a famous officer would appear and all your allies would start freaking out I wouldn't understand their fear and thought it was a bit silly to worry about a single officer. After playing RoTK it now makes complete sense as reinforcements will come in and fuck your men up in a pincer attack or destroy your officers in a duel
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>>164531258
But now Ma Chao and Ma Xie are here, and I'm cut off!
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>>164531258
Based Zilong!
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>>164531428
I told ya, anon. I told ya to worry about the reinforcements.
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>>164531428
Well I got myself out of a pincer, we're still outnumbered but at least we have them surrounded.

>>164531601
You were so right.
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>>164531784
Well the battle of the bridge was going well, but Yan Xing returned and Ma Dai showed up so now we're pretty badly outnumbered.

I know more reinforcements were heading to Zitong, and they'll have to pass through here, but we're pretty far from Zhongyuan and help will take a while to arrive. We'll have to play a delaying game for now.
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>>164532274
We're in pretty bad straights, I'm trying desperately to get back to the main base in hopes of holding out until reinforcements arrive, Zhao Yun came to keep the enemy off me but he's paying an awful price.
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>>164532274
No, retreat you fool. The distance between where you're fighting and Ma Teng's closest cities mean that Ma Teng's troops will always replenish and go back to reinforcement the battle faster than the rate you can kill them.

The best way to deal with Xi Liang is to send out a sizable decoy to hold the enemy at some faraway checkpoint, and then send another wave of troops on another route to swoop in and take the empty cities. Taking them head on won't work.
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>>164532569
cant you retreat? I think thats an option although it disbands your forces.
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>>164532569
Fa Zheng arrived to help, but it'll only delay the inevitable as Zhao Yun retreated. He's heading out again with another army, but Sun Ce and Lu Su are already attacking Zitong. Our odds of saving the city are not good.
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>>164532917
>>164532782
>>164532815

Yeah, you're right. I was going to wait until we got word that the city had fallen, but at this point it's a done deal and not worth wasting lives over.
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Zitong has fallen, but now Xiliang troops are advancing on Yan Ping Gate! I normally keep my troops inside the walls unless I think we can win a field battle, we're all leading spearmen so hopefully that will help against the Xiliang Cavalry.
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>>164534103
Why does that one dudes horse have a mane and look different but the other two don't?
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>>164534602
The ones with manes are either Tiger Cavalry or Xiliang Cavalry. In other words, they're from places renowned for good horse so they're level 3 cav is better than in other places.
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>>164534103
We fought off the first attack, but the Xiliang troops are back. Worse, they cut in half our attempt to take back Zitong, and the army not here is getting crushed by Sun Jian further south. His forces are also in the process of winning a battle on the lower Yangtze River, opening up Jiangdong for the taking.
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>>164535504
Ma Teng keeps attacking, and we keep winning. Sun Jian's attack on Yangzhou was aborted as well, I suppose they ran out of food.

But, uh, something happened while I was away attacking the main camp.
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>>164536462
THE TIGER HAS BEEN SKINNED
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>>164536462
RIP Tiger of Jiangdong, at least he got to live a few years more than his historical counterpart.
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>>164536462
Wu, lad
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>>164536462
Wait, did your ruler just get deded by Sun Jian? Who the fuck inherits the kingdom them?
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>>164536590
>>164536605
Wait, shit, I think we misread.

Sun Jian killed He Jin.

Bollocks.
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>>164537383
Oops, my bad.
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>>164537235
Maybe he's the one who gets the kingdom?
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>>164536462

Yes it was He Jin who died you knobs, no (you)s for you.

Well that wraps it up for now. In the end the only city that changed hands was Zitong, taken from us by Sun Jian. He Jin was succeeded by Cao Cao, which is rather boring and predictable.

Also, is there anyway to actually save the Han in this game?
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>>164539743
Well, looks like an era has ended, and the time has come to decide the fate of the next one coming.

Best of luck with that. Try not to get sacked by Sun Jian.
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>both Blu Meng and Han poster (don't know who he's playing as) have fallen under Cao Cao's command
CANNOT BE STOPPED
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holy shit, you guys are still alive.
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>>164541351
Just barely.
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>>164541351
When we have something to work on/do like a pastebin or talk about like more info on DW9 we can be sorta active. Even stuff like screenshots or a play through can help keep the thread bumped and has the potential to generate discussion for at least a few hours.
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I recently bought Nobunaga's Ambition, now you're selling me RotK 13? This shit is more interesting than Paradox Excel simulators.
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>9
>>164543832
They're both good games but I feel that Daimyo play in NA is fleshed out then warlords in RoTK, but that officer play in RoTK is better.
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>>164543832
You should look up the history stuffs in general to better know the characters, so you can make some scenario maps to satisfy your headcanon and whatever to your fantasy liking, it's fun.
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You know what Koei strategies need?
Randomized maps.
It's too repetitive to play on the same map for 10 games straight.
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>>164548901
That's true. I like the Civ games for exactly that.

One thing in particular I'd like is Customizable Maps, so we can build our own hell for ourselves and others.
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How do I grow beard like Guan Yu?
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>>164527282
>Xuesangou is pretty hard to read unless your a hardcore historyfag though. Archlich seems easier to read for a musou player.
The target audience of my translations on xuesanguo actually are the semi-historyfags like the archlich. If I do my job right, the info should be "trickling down" through guys like the archlich to everyone else.

That said, do be careful with his stuff. He does tend to assume things he probably shouldn't in his analyses and spotlights.
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>>164549931
Readers should be aware that analyses come from writer's own biased thinking. Only idiots would assume everything they read are true, so I don't see why we should avoid archlich's tumblr. With that said, I think the most newfag-friendly site to read is either the wikia or kongming.net
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>>164549852
Be Chinese.
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>play rotk XIII hero mode
>liu bei, zhang fei and guan yu gather up in a tavern for a drink
>let's go save china, lol
>kk

Is that how it happened in real life?
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>>164550651
According to the novel, that's more or less how it happened.
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>>164550078
>kongming.net
Be warned that their translations have a lot of errors.
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And that is that.
Pick my next story.
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>>164550651
More or less, yeah. Three guys got together, had some drinks, liked eachother so much that they became brothers, decided to make China stop being such a dick, failed immensely.
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>>164466330
Fucking Hojo and their god damn choke points.

I always have to fight apocalyptic wars around Odawara just to break through. Battles and campaigns involving over a hundred thousand men.

FUCK HOJO.
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>>164550651
Impossible to know how it happened in "real life" given that historical records don't exactly state this stuff explicitly.

However, based on what the records do state, it seems likely that Liu Bei met Zhang and Guan at a relatively early age and worked together for a while, which is more plausible than three adults meeting at a tavern and immediately hitting it off while drunk.

It is also know that Liu Bei was running his little militia, most likely as a local police force/bully squad, for a while before the Yellow Scarves rebellion happened (private "security" groups were standard fare near the end of Han).
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>>164551713
So, what you're trying to say is that Liu Bei used to be a gang leader before he started his military career? I thought he was just a sandal weaver.
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>War at the southwest because they're easier to beat than Oda Nobunaga
>finish taking 2nd-to-last castle of theirs, feeling good because shit's going my way for once
>Oda Fucking Nobunaga shows up, asking for relief forces to defend a far away castle
>don't have the manpower to make a difference, and not on good terms with the Oda anyway
>say no
>31,000 Oda Soldiers show up to take my main castle
>They try to take my next castle in line too, but I manage to rouse a meager enough defense to fend off their vanguard
>Pic related is current situation

So I should execute every single one of these dickheads who won't join me, yeah? I'm appeasing the local tribes and working on getting some allies that also hate Oda Nobunaga, so I can even the score a bit.
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>>164555051
You'll be a nice stepping stone for unification.
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>>164555051
Instead of working to get allies, try to get along with them enough to ask them for aids, being allies actually doesn't help that much and takes a lot of time and money.

Also, when one of your cities is heavily outnumbered, you deploy an army, and then withdraw them in almost immediately back into the city, time will still flow, but enemy won't be able to lay siege to the castle during that short time. Rinse and repeat until reinforcements come or the enemy runs out of supplies. It's cheap but it's pretty effective.
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Last 20 stages of eclipse mode in Berserk Musou aren't fun in any capacity.
>fight Zodd, Count, Snake, Grunbeld, and Femto back to back it'll be fun
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>>164555427
Yeah, that's what i meant; Get reinforcements.

If possible, I'd like to get Keiji Maeda out of the way. He's the biggest obstacle to me right now.
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>Page 10
Wake up, you sleepy heads.
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>>164559828
Let it die, man. There's no more heroes. No one wants to restore the Han dynasty anymore.
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Hey there, /eagg/. The anon who was trying to come up a pastebin for the thread from earlier today. Here's what I've come up so far:

>What is /eagg/?
Most of the discussion in the thread is usually about Koei-Tecmo’s Musou series, mainly Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors and Warriors Orochi, but due to similarities in gameplay, we sometimes discuss Capcom’s Sengoku Basara too so we can’t exactly name it Musou thread. And due to the settings of Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors being the Three Kingdoms of China and the Sengoku period of Japan, respectively, the threads also discuss Koei-Tecmo’s Romance of Three Kingdoms and Nobunaga’s Ambition from time to time, so we can’t exactly call it Hack & Slash General either. So, we settled for the closest we could think of, East Asian Genocide General. Plus, ee-ay-gee-gee just roll off the tongue better than Edge and Ess.

>What’s the differences between Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors and Warriors Orochi?
Dynasty Warriors has its story sets mostly during the end of the Han Dynasty and lasts through the Three Kingdoms period of China (around 184AD to 280AD). It offers more characters to play as but less varieties between characters compared to Samurai Warriors. Though with the latest instalment, some really crazy weaponries have been added in, like arm cannon, or rocket spear.
Samurai Warriors has its story sets during the latter half of the Sengoku period of Japan (roughly around 1560 to 1615). It has less characters than Dynasty Warriors, but the movesets vary a lot more. Though unlike Dynasty Warriors, which tried to revamp its gameplay during the 5-7 interval, Samurai Warriors has been playing it safe since 2, with the gameplay from the latest instalment, Samurai Warriors 4, being an update and more refined gameplay of 2.
Continuity isn’t important in these games, as each new instalment retells the same set of events, just in a different ways and with a few new twists here and there.
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>>164560756
As for Warriors Orochi, it’s a massive crisis crossover between Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors, and in Warriors Orochi 3 case, even features characters from different series. The gameplay is a mix between Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors with new elements like you play as a 3 member-team that can be switched instantly, instead of just 1 character. Unlike Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors where they are based on actual history and each new instalment retells the same set of events, just in a different ways and with a few new twists here and there, Warriors Orochi offers an original storyline that has an actual continuity.

>What’s the best game to start with?
Dynasty Warriors: Due to the sheer size of the growing cast, 83 playable characters as of Dynasty Warriors 8: Empires, either start with 5 or 7.
Dynasty Warriors 5, available on PS2, Xbox, Xbox360 and PC (Japanese only). Every character has the game has their own story with bits of narration being told by the characters themselves at the start and the end of each stage, so it would be the best introduction if you’re not familiar with the story of the Three Kingdoms. Be aware that Dynasty Warriors 5 is on the PS2, so its graphic and gameplay can be obsolete by today’s standard.
Dynasty Warriors 7, available on PS3, Xbox360, PC (Japanese only) and PSP (Japanese only). The game has the best story-telling the series has to offer, with the stories focus on the kingdoms instead of individuals. Some characters got sidelined but those that got focused on received lots of characterization. Plus, less characters probably would make it easier to remember who is who for those who aren’t familiar with the Three Kingdoms. 7 tried to revamp the gameplay and introduces weapon switching where you can take any 2 weapons onto the battlefield and switch them on the fly. It does have its share of problems like half of the roster being clones of each other though.
Avoid playing 6 if you could.
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>>164560843
Samurai Warriors: Either start with 2 or 4.
Samurai Warriors 2, available on PS2, Xbox360 and PC. Similar to Dynasty Warriors 5, the game has stories for every playable characters in the game (except 2 characters, but they aren’t important in the overall narrative anyway) with narration being told at the beginning of each stage, so it would be the best introduction if you’re not familiar with the story of the Sengoku period. And just like Dynasty Warriors 5, it’s a PS2 game so its graphic can be obsolete by today’s standard, but it offers better gameplay than Dynasty Warriors 5 and has aged just fine. There’s a HD Collection on the PSN, but it’s Japanese-only.
Samurai Warriors 4, available on PS3, PS4 and PSVita. Similar to Dynasty Warriors 7, the game narrative focuses on clans instead of individuals. The writing quality varies from clan to clan, but it introduces the clans and overall chaotic situation of Japan during the Sengoku period just fine. It introduces a new attack string called Hyper Attacks, which are sweeping attacks for easy crowd control. Be aware that the game features some of the most linear stage designs in the series.
Nobody in /eagg/ has ever played 3 so we don’t know if it actually exist or not.

Warriors Orochi: The game does have a continuity, but you can start in any instalment just fine as each instalment has its self-contained storyline with only the villains being the one that ties them all, though it is recommended that you played at least one instalment of Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors, as the fun of a crossover is to see characters from different series interact with each other, that and the game doesn’t even try to introduce characters properly.
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>>164560931
Romance of Three Kingdoms: If you like self-insert roleplaying, then go with X. If you just like your usual turn-based strategy game, then go with XI. Though XI is available in English on both PS2 and PC, X is only available in English on PS2. And keep in mind, even though they share the same title, each instalment actually has gameplay greatly differ from each other, so if you don’t like one, you can always try another.

Nobunaga’s Ambition: Sphere of Influence would be a great start. (I want to write more, but NA games doesn't actually offer much choices here)

Thoughts so far?
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>>164560756
>>164560843
>>164560931
>>164561024
Sounds good.
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>>164560756
>>164560843
>>164560931
>>164561024
Wonderful. Simply wonderful.
>Nobunaga’s Ambition: Sphere of Influence would be a great start. (I want to write more, but NA games doesn't actually offer much choices here)
It's the only NA game worth playing now, it's simply better in every aspect than other games in the series.
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>>164560931
>Samurai Warriors 4
There's a Samurai Warriors 4-II on PC, isn't it the same thing with more characters?
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>>164561830
I actually prefer Iron Triangle's gameplay over SoI, but IT is only available on PS2 whereas SoI is easily accessable through Steam so it'd be kinda difficult to convince others to go hunt for IT. And unlike ROTK X and XI where I can just say one focuses on roleplaying while one is the standard turn-based strategy, both IT and SoI only has ruler-based play. Telling how the 2 games differ would require a more in-depth review.

>>164562027
4-II is basically an XL without giving you the ability to mixjoy with the vanilla, it'd be a piss poor introduction to someone unfamilliar with the series imo.
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I'm going to sleep now. Try not to die, /eagg/, and feel free to add more ideas for the pastebin. I don't play SB or the anime musou, so anyone willing to provide information about those would be a great help.
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Y'know what'd make a good Musou?

Star Wars
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Stop being dead and give a good argument for people you want to be playable in the next Dynasty/Samurai Warriors game
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>>164564982
Only if Vader can only walk and never run
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>>164566454
I want a new game in a Hundred Year War setting. I'm getting tired of massacring Asians.
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>>164567372
Sounds about right. Being super powerful but also being slow as balls.

makes for a good Boss, anyway, as long as he has the health to compensate. That's one thing not many Musous know how to do, Boss Fights.
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>>164568279
I meant that as a playable character. I just want to walk around and slowly bulldoze my way through rebel scum.
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>>164568373
Oh, well, of course. Thousands of nerds and dorks would shit themselves in outrage if a Star Wars Musou didn't let you play as Darth Fucking Vader.
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Where can I pirate Romance of the Three Kingdoms X with PUK for PC? I don't have a PS2, so I'll have to stick with English patch...
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>create officer
>try to make a child for Gongsun Zan
>character limit
>Gongsu
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>164554032
How do I unlock this outfit?
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>>164568373
Only being able to walk sounds cool, but would be absolutely horrible in practice. Especially in any time based mission.

Should be more like Basara Matsunaga desu.
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>10
Is DWOZ actually on PC? I searched for it for a few minutes but only thing that popped up was how to create an account. If one wanted to play it would they just have to play it on PS4 or Vita?
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>>164577190

Download link for PC:

http://www.gamecity.ne.jp/musou-online/start/index.htm

Download link for PS4:

https://store.playstation.com/#!/ja-jp/cid=JP0106-CUSA00963_00-MUSOUOLAPP000000

When are we playing /eagg/?
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>>164570932
Here what do you want it to be ill type it in chink

公孙
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>>164577412
I don't know Japanese and I have no idea what any of this means. I would prefer not to install internet explorer to my computer though. can I just blast through installation or is this part important?
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>>164578271

>all those ????????????

Set your system locale to JP first, and I doubt they would force you to install IE so you can probably just ignore it.
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Is there an imgur album or something of all the costumes/helmets available in Berserk Moose-Oh? I'm curious as to what they added in, but I can't find a good list anywhere.
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GENPEI WAR MUSOU WHEN?
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I know I'm asking for too much, but...
Maybe one day Koei will make a musou without overdesigned characters?
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>>164582880
Yeah they did, Warriors of Troy, you didnt buy it

FUCK YOU
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>>164582880
I think the overdesigned characters are part of the charm.
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>>164582997
It was lame even by musou standards.
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>>164582880
the NA and ROTK art is pretty nice and not over the top. I would imagine though that if Yuanji was changed than lots of fans would throw a fit.
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>>164583286
Yeah lame designs
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>>164566454
I want all of Tigerblood's family playable. Yi, his other daughter and his wife. If Guan can have his four brats, Tigerblood can, too. Cao Cao is also overdue for another one.
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>>164583429
I wasn't talking about strategies, artwork in these is stellar. Cao Cao and Nobunaga look a bit too similar, though, but it's fine.
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>>164560756
>we settled for the closest we could think of, East Asian Genocide General
Why not /koei/? No one cares about Basara, really.
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>>164585901
Talk about it, then.
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>>164568275
Not a musou game, but something RotK-like in medieval Europe will be awesome. I wonder how Koei will perform in direct competition with Paradoxx.
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>>164515093
>The voice actually sounds pretty good for a vocaloid. What the heck, I like Chinese rip-off now.

She's not a rip-off actually, Luo Tianyi is an officially licensed Vocaloid

>Luo Tianyi (洛天依) is a Chinese VOCALOID formerly developed by Bplats, Inc. under the YAMAHA Corporation, and was created in collaboration with Shanghai HENIAN. She was released in July 2012 for the VOCALOID3 engine.
http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Luo_Tianyi
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>>164582880
DW designs are fine for the most part aside from 6.

SW went full retard with 4.
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>>164541351
>>164554032
Post more you faggot.
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What books about Sengoku period can you recommend? I played Samurai Warriors II and it got me interested in actual events.
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>>164592721
Eiji Yoshikawa's Taiko isn't super historical, but it is a good read.
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>>164554032
I usually don't care for characterization in DW, but in 8 SSX is just so bad. Other Wu officers have growth like learning more or controlling their temper, yet all SSX gets is to become Liu Bei's cocksleeve.
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>>164593046
This
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>>164593046
>>164592721
I've had an interest in the Meiji era. It'd be neat to see how that could be transcribed in a musou title.
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>10
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do you guys play gemfire
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>playing NA as the takeda
>don't really think much of Harunobu, just that he seems similar can't put my finger on it
>just realized that Harunobu is Shingen
thats actually pretty cool playing through the various clans rise to power
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>>164597290
>/10
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Is it just me or is it easier to rack up kills in Samurai Warriors than it is in Dynasty Warriors?
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>>164603926
I get crazy kills in WO3U
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>>164603926
I think that, too. I think SW is more of the technical series whereas DW is more of the traditional series that had to work things out for the current format. On that note, how many peons you think we'll get for DW9 onscreen?
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>>164541351
>>164554032
>>164603323
Where are these from?
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>>164605779

How is SW more technical? It has the same gameplay as DW
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>>164605779
Given open world, I presume it varies depending on location. At max, though, I anticipate about 6,000-15,000 at a time. Rough guess, though, I'm not so positive on those estimates, and that's still not counting Officers or anything.

>>164606532
Maybe at the base, but my experience with it says that Samurai Warriors requires a bit more precise strategy than Dynasty Warriors.
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>>164606532
Samurai Warriors seems to have more of a flashy, stylish format, whereas Dynasty Warriors still keeps things grounded in reality (And I use that term loosely). I wish I could dash around a level in DW with the triangle button. No, really. That is a genius way to traverse and clear out crowds.
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>>164606532
Haven't playeed 4, but every character in SW has their own set of special skills. Which have far more versatility than EX attacks due to not being locked to a specific combo. Plus there are 3 different moveset styles (special, normal, charge) instead of just a single one used across the board.
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>>164606994
You sort of can. With a pike in dw8 you press square square triangle for a sort of forward moving windmill
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>>164607445
You mean the Cross Pike's dash cancel thing? IO use that to chain a bitchload of attacks together, especially Lingqi's EX attack where she gives herself a buff.
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>>164592164
sure.

>>164606503
well, the first two pictures are from Honey Select by Illusion. A glorified character creator & poser.
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>>164606835
I expect about 50-200 in a camp, around 300-1000 at a town or a providence, and at a large capital, from 2000-5000. If day/night plays a part, could the KO counter reset at the turn of midnight?
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>>164611303
I would presume there'd be a sort of behind-the-scenes trigger or flag or something that lets the game know when a battle starts or ends without interrupting the Player, so battles could go for as long as there are a certain concentration of opposing forces in one area. Like, if you've just got 50 scouts and 4000 soldiers, it's not a battle, so the KO counter wouldn't even show up, but if it's two armies going at it it'd be different.
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I REALLY don't think it will be "open world". I think it will be operated into into instanced provinces and within the provinces it will be open world with the various roads cities and commanderiea within that province.
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>>164614221
That makes sense, but I'd love to travel seamlessly through the land.
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>>164614221
Yeah, people are reading too much into it like usual. This is KT after all
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>>164614221
Yeah, this is the most plausible "open world" I can see Koei doing, but there are people who would just say that that's not "open world"

By the way, anybody know how they handled the open world aspect in DQH2?
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Do any of the weapons in SW4 or DW8 have the moveset of Yoshitsune Minamoto from WO3? I really liked his light gauntlets and I would like to know if theres anything like that in more recent games
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>>164624343
Nope, unique to him
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I'm thinking of starting a new save file for DW5, /eagg/. Which character should I start with?
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>>164624524
Zhou Yu. Intelligent but not a Shu fag like Zhuge Liang
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>Page 10
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>>164628712
Was he actually retarded or just playing 4D chinese checkers?
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>>164628916
Honestly I think he was making the best of the shitty situation he found himself in.
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>>164620445
>>164616692
Know what I suggest? You can walk around in towns, but outside town, you have your weapon brandished. Sometimes depending on the scenario, you can attack in a town. You possibly could commit genocide among your own people, even potentially defecting to another faction.

Too ambitious?
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>>164628916
The historical guy? Not actually retarded, but not particularly smart either. Or he just didn't give a shit.
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>>164630490
>genocidinf your own troops
I would prefer if DW9 didn't become a Lu Bu simulator.
I feel that open-world can really have a huge impact on how the story plays out. In previous games you would just hop from battle to battle, but I feel that open-world would tell a more continual story. For example Lu Meng's invasion of Jing could be told in an open world style with sailing down the Yangtze in boats with the occasional skirmish to defeat Guan Yu's watch guards which can affect the strength and preparedness of the final battle against the guard at Nan Commandery. KT probably won't do this because their KT, but it would be nice for a difference in story telling.
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>>164632365
>Lu Bu simulator
>Not Zhang Fei
If this piece is anything to go by, we're gonna do some killing.
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>>164585901
i talk about basara but i don't have any way to play 4 so instead i just shitpost with quotes from 3
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>>164628916

Not neccessarily retarded, it's just that in spite of being emperor, Liu Shan really acted more as an observer than anything else. He appointed people to important posts and left them to their own devices. Sometimes this worked out well, sometimes it was a disaster. I don’t think he was a bad person, and I really don’t think he was as stupid as many sources portray him. Really, I think that he was a man who knew his limits. He knew that he wasn’t qualified to run a country and let other people – ones he thought were capable of it – do that for him. That’s not inherently a bad thing, and the people he selected were often very skilled. But when he put this power in the wrong hands and did nothing to correct his mistake, it all fell apart. He remained too aloof from events, and when the country needed an emperor to step in, Liu Shan just wasn’t up to it.
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Not yet
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>>164633538
>in an open field
>enemy uses the tortoise formation
>you ride inside and now in the tortoise formation "map"
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>>164633668
Pretty much this. I've always thought of him as more of an honest and naive man rather than a fool. Too bad being an honest and naive man in a a chaotic time is pretty much being a fool
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>>164585901
Because that's stupid and invites retards to come in and start posting about non-musou stuff like DOA dumps. Which will probably happen soon anyway with Marie and Honoka being in All Stars.

The name also originated back when we were still alive and discussed a multitude things, including Basara.
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>>164641823
I didn't even think of that. I'm all for new posters and consistent posting/discussion but I'm worried we'll get some cancerous posters, or worst case scenario, Hyrule Warrior shitters if KT were to announce HW2 or another Nintendo-themed musou. Less of two evils, but I hate that HW was my babby's first musou.

At least I took a further interest afterward, unlike most of the other drones.
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>>164638370
>walk up to Liu Bei
>Press X to Thumb Neck Stab
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>>164643101
>I hate that HW was my babby's first musou
You're not shitposting about it right now, so what's there to hate? HW introduced you to the wonderful world of Chinese and Japanese history, so you should be grateful.
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>>164644576
To be fair, I actually played the first Dynasty Warriors game WAY before Hyrule Warriors. My point still stands.
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Goodnight thread.
I'll be in your dreams.
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>>164641823
Well, DoA can go in /fgg/.
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>>164585901
>No one cares about Basara, really.
say what bitch?
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>>164647479
I mean, how often is it mentioned? like twice in the last 3 threads or something.
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>>164648067
Does that really matter when the last three threads are close to the only threads in the past twelve months?
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>>164648173
Kinda, yeah, since that means it's all we've got to work with here. If anything, that means they matter more.
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>>164648067
We barely talk about DW or SW in the last 3 threads, what make you think we'd discuss SB more?
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>>164648230
That's...exactly my point?
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>>164648304
Oh, my bad then.
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>>164647479
basara only surfaces when people want to shitpost.
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>10
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>>164648405
Who is best girl from their respective fractions?
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>>164653364
SSX
Yueying
Wang Yi
Zhurong
Lingqi
Zhang Chunhua

pointless to go by faction because each faction only really has one, but:
Nohime and Ranmaru tied
Ayahime
Koshosho
Inahime
Kasuga
Sayaka Suzuki
Basara Oichi
all other sengoku waifus are trash
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>>164654370
>Ginchiyo
>trash

I will fight you
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>>164654370
>Koshosho
>Not belong to the trash
I have never hate a female character in musou game so much until she got introduced. Her design looks like she just step out of a SB game, her moveset sucks, her personality can boil down to "muh misfortune", her VA sucks (which is something really rare to find in Japanese voicing industry), she got shoved into your face in almost every major battle, and her appearance in the game ruins the characterization of best girl aka Gracia and best boy aka Magoichi. Basically everything about her sucks.
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>>164654370
>Sayaka Suzuki

Literally who
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>>164655850
I think that's SB's Magoichi's real name
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>>164444118
Holy shit what since when were we back
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>>164657371
a week or so, I think
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>>164657371
Since DW9 got announced. You didn't miss much though, anon.
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Musou are so fucking trash I don't even understand why people even play them

Like imagine Shadow of mordor, a pretty shitty game, with all other elements of the game stripped except for the combat, but then even the combat gets stripped of features and it's reduced to spamming one button and one enemy type that gets knocked in the air with one hit and can't retaliate.

I've only played one musou, dynasty warriors 3, and they haven't evolved one bit since then.
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>>164658191
sometimes people just want to mindlessly massacre chinks with their anime characters given flesh
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>>164658191
Thanks for giving me a chance to test out my new OC.
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>>164658494
>>164658558
>No arguments
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>>164658191
>>164658835

your (You)
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>>164658835
We really don't need one. If you don't see the fun in just mowing down legions of enemies, then Musous aren't for you and you should go somewhere else.
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>>164658870
>still not even pretending that you aren't just eating up shit games that hog licences and IPs from actually competent devs like capcom, from or platinum
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>>164659020
>basarafag shitposting as usual
(You)
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>>164633668
That's an incredibly generous interpretion. Personally I always thought that he was probably a bit like Liu Hong and just didn't know what the fuck was going on.
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Shitposting aside though. What's your reason for liking musou games? Being able to mow down thousands of mooks effortlessly feels pretty good, but the main hook of the series for me is its historical settings, which is why none of the anime musou appeals to me, and the huge replayable value the games offer.
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>>164659109
>implying you fag got some weren't responsible for talentless Jews like koei getting one piece, berserk and zelda instead of top tier devs like capcom, from or platinum.
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>>164659280
>capcom
>top tier lel
>SFV is shit
>RE7 is shit
>DmC happened
>Dead Rising 4 nuff said
>all good IPs buried
>basara will forever be a poor man's DW/SW bootleg
>claims they invented expansion discs and won a lawsuit over it
>scummiest business practices in the industry

>platinum
>never once made a good game and has one of the most autistic fanbases ever
>bayonetta will forever be inferior to DMC and Ninja Gaiden

>From
>soulsfags no need to go further with this
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>>164659246
Whenever I got dragged to Target or whatever store by my mother, I'd always go over to the video games section and camp out at the console that had some demos to play. I loved playing 4 and 5 because I was a dumb kid who liked mindlessly murdering people and after a while I was actually getting into the story. Then I just fell in love with the history of the game after my mother bought DW5.
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>>164659494
All this from a musou shit eater that can't fathom game play more complicated than mashing square for 60 hours with 0 thought or challenge.
No wonder you need a general. You need a safespace from getting BTFO by /v/ for having garbage taste.
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>>164659246
The main hook is mowing down enemies with a variety of weapons, which is why I stopped caring about the source in any of these games, and I play simply for enjoying the movesets
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>>164659781
>btfo by /v/
>by /v/
>implying /v/ taste isn't aids incarnate

kek my mad little shitposter can't be this cute
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>>164659938
>get BTFO for enjoying the cancer killing Japanese games
>retreat to your circlejerk safespace
>act like it's /v/ that got butt hurt and has shit taste
Top kek
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>>164654370
>SW shop attendent
>trash
Leave my flat chest maiden alone.
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>>164659781
hostility is the calling card of a weak intellect
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>>164660180
anon buddy, bro, he's right, /v/ has the worst taste in vidya on the internet. you're not doing yourself any favors continuing this stupidity.
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>>164659938
Mate, you're arguing with some /v/ cretin. He's obviously just trying to get a rise out of you, so just ignore his taunts.
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>>164660478
Again. You're in a musou circle jerk. You could not possibly have worse taste you deluded idiot.

Go play DMC4, Dark Souls or Fallout New Vegas and get some taste and stop supporting these call of duty tier rehash 1 button shit fests.
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>>164659667
>foreigner
>in my house
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>>164658835
>>164659020
>>164659781
Having fun is an argument in and of itself. In fact, it is the only argument. There are precisely zero other valid criterion for personally judging a singleplayer game.
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>>164661031
False. You can objectively look at the merit and quality of a game. Musou fails objectively at every step special you are forced to fall back to a meaningless buzzword.
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>>164660897
>an actual dynasty warrior
>in my house
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>>164648067
>No one cares about Basara, we should remove it.
>I care.
>No, you don't count.

Truly the way to save /eagg/ is to ban all /eagg/ content.

Are you that same faggot who used to get triggered about Basara because he claimed to have made the first ever DW thread on /vg/ and felt that entitled him to dictate everything about the threads?
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>>164654370
>SS "Liu Bae <3" X
>"Pizza Face" Yueying
>Wang "Canadian Pussy" Yi
>Zhang "Saggy Maggy" Chunhua
>Koshosho the Kumrag
>Not trash

Posting literal perfection to cleanse this thread.
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>>164661379
One Person cannot hold a conversation. Not one of any worth, anyway.

I don't mean to shit on people who like Basara, but there's clearly not enough interest for it over here.
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>>164663510
There's at least three. Also /eagg/ has just come back after months of death. Banning things that have always been welcome here just because we haven't had a discussion about it in the past couple threads is retarded. We are even still getting people come in and say "holy shit you're alive!".
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We really need new DW9 info.
But I fear that probably won't come till Musou All Stars is released.
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>>164659781
Your being intellectually dishonest. You do not just mash square for 60 hours, but press triangle and circle ocasionally as well.
>>164667238
Will Musou stars be good? WO3 had the benefit of like 140+, but I cant see how they'll differentiate just 20-30 characters enough for it to be fun.
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>>164667513
It'll be easier to differentiate 30 characters than 140+. But I still want my WO3-tier roster.
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>>164669119
Hoping that All Stars and Orochi will be seperate entities that can co exist.

All Stars can have all the Koei Tecmo owned franchise characters and Orochi can once again only contain the mythological characters like Taigong Wang, Wu kong etc
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Draw a battle of your dream, like that >>164668835
one.
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Watch Three Kingdoms.
>We need reinforcements for Hefei my lord!
>oh fuck yeah we Zhang Liao now
>3 eps later. Gets skipped for Shu shit.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGHHH
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>>164654370
Momma Chunuha>Wang Yi>Yuanji=Xing Cai>Cai Wenji>Zhenji>Lianshi>YueYing>YinPing
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>>164670718

BENEVOLENCE
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>>164670718
>Watch
A tv series? Which one?
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>>164671046

https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=532701

Or it's on youtube if you prefer

Honestly it might be fun to watch it together on synchtube or something as a general
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>10
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>>164674494
>>
Who are your top 5 boys/girls /eagg/?

Zhang Liao
Guo Hai/Deng Ai. I cant choose.
Zhou Tai
Sima Shi
Jia Chong.

Jin has a lot of good boys.

Chunuha
Wang Yi
Yuanji
Wenji
Lianshi
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>>164679423
Xu Chu
Zhang He
Zhang Liao
Xiahou Ba
Taishi Ci

Xiaoqiao
Zhenji
Cai Wenji
Zhurong
Lianshi
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WW1 musou when? Battle of verdun, battle of the somme, ypres, cambrai, gallipoli, isonzo, tannenburg.
Heroes: Hotzendorf, Falkenhayn, Haig, Cadorna etc.
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>>164681053
It's called Battlefield 1.
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>>164680541
Ok
Great
Fantastic
Why
How

Shit
Ok
Cute
Great
Great
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>>164681053
I wonder how musou with firearms would work. Can you make bullet hell work from a 3rd person perspective?
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>>164670718
>not watching the 1994 version with full on coverage of Hefei and more Zhao Yun wank
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>>164682654
>Can you make bullet hell work from a 3rd person perspective?
Kind of.
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>>164682679
I did.
But the effects were so bad.
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>>164683176
but better actors and casting in general
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>>164681865
>Best girl
>Shit
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>>164686392
Her sister is better and less autistic.
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>>164687126
At least you know qiao is the way to go.
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>>164688515
No sorry.
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So, Fate Extella is comig out this month and Bererk musou next month. I love both franchises, will I like the games ?
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>>164689314
>>164689314
>>>/out/
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>>164689314
The woman that cut Sima Yi balls. Thanks the heavens we have Shi now.
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>>164671147
Set it up my man
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>>164692270
>tfw the villain Sima Yi has a better relationship with his wife than the hero Zhuge Liang
SHU BTFO.
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>10
>>
WHO ELSE SEEKS DEATH
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>>164693223

Is there any interest in a /eagg/ group watch? I think most of us have already seen it.
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>>164697842
Of course, I've only watched it twice in full
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>>164697842
sure, but a schedule would be nice since I'm somewhat busy with work and stuff.
What the fuck, why is the jap voice for DW8 2.7 gigs?
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>>164698226
Voice work is surprisingly hefty. The SEGA! clip from Sonic 1 is bigger than the game itself.
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>10
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>>164704218
5
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Roster hopes for DW9?
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>>164706663
I don't know enough about history to have a specific wishlist, but more late Wu characters would be nice.
Give us someone to fight in the Jin stages other than Lianshi and Ding Feng.
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>>164706663
Cheng Pu.
Anything but more Shu faggotry
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>>164706663
I still want to believe.
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how the FUCK do you play romance of the three kingdoms?
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>>164710337
Start a playthrough, get fucked in the ass, quit and start a new playthrough with the knowledge you've learnt from the previous one, rinse and repeat.
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>>164710337
Play the tutorial, if you're playing XI, I think
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>>164710337
Play Liu Bei and win because the game fucking hands you everything and Guan Yu kills everything through events while Sun Jian and Cao Cao have to work for their land.
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>>164711168
Yeah, no. Aside from "Gathering of Heroes" scenario, Liu Bei always starts with only 1 or 2 castles in piss poor locations, surrounded by other larger factions with only a handful of officers with him. Cao Cao starts at a much better location and with much better pool of officers, and in later scenarios, with much larger territories. And if you play as Sun Jian, you have the whole empty southern land to capture before you can come in contact with someone else.

Heck, if you play as Cao Cao or some one in Cao Cao's force in X, there's a chain of historical events that guarantee to grant you half of China.
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>>164711168
Liu Bei is easily fucked over by the events not triggering, leaving him isolated in the Xu province while Cao Cao expands south, kills Liu Biao and hires both sleepy dragon and babby bird.

Speaking of which, what are the triggers in RotK 13 for the brothers splitting and Guan Yu joining Cao Cao? Remembering the event, it requires all of them to be in Qiao, Zhang Liao hired, Cao Cao owning the Red Hare (he just gave it to me, so maybe I'll have to give it back), Yuan Shao exists. Is there a time trigger, so that I'll have to wait until a certain year before it's possible?
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>>164713130
Probably time trigger, because all the requirements you've listed are pretty much what I would have guess.

Also, after playing SoI, I was sorely disappointed in the writing in ROTK13 events, it just feels so rushed and poorly written.
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>>164713658
Fuck, if that's true I'd have to wait around 3 years and I don't think that I'll manage to keep them intact in this time. Scripted victory at Guandu would be nice, but does it change anything in the troops/cities, or does it only kill Yuan Shao and some of his officers? I might as well not bother with them and kill them before they get dangerous in the Jing.
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>>164714139
Only Yan Liang and Wen Chou got killed during the events, if I remember correctly. Yuan Shao doesn't die nor his troops/cities got effected.
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>>164714139
I believe Guandu is scripted. I remember the event where Yuan Shao splits his forces in hald and they both get wrecked by Tsao Tsao
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>>164714639
Tian Feng gets chopped as well.

I guess that I won't bother with them honestly, with the power of semicircles and Cao's OP generals I'll steamroll through the Yuan lands anyway.
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>>164714726
>the love triangle plot
>yuan shao
>Cao Cao
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>>164715941
There's a reason concubines were commonplace back then.
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>>164683137
automata for pc WHEN
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>>164719780
Don't do that here.
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>>164720091
cgg is dead though
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>>164720265
/v/ is very much alive where pc begging belongs.
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>>164719780
?

Isn't it already announced for Steam? VALVE!
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>>164720491
I think they mentioned it was coming to pc but there's nothing like a release date yet
>>
THESE SUBTITLES MOVE TOO FAST HOLY SHIT.
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>>164721729

What subtitles?
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>>164722046
https://youtu.be/_8rkcJ5sYDI?list=PL46NnZF5rkhehGRuhnGUI0phBmYmFposP&t=155
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>>164722106

Ah let me know when you get to episode 2 and I'll make a room for a /eagg/ group watch.
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>>164722106

Wait I just realized you just started watching it, if you want to watch it with /eagg/ I made a room here

http://taima.tv/r/eagg
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>>164722479
>playing ROTK X on other monitor
>watching TK2010 with my boys
super comfy
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>>164706663
More dudes for Jin maybe. The entire Jin campaign is like 80% generics.
Also Hua Xiong, maybe; it's kind of jarring for a supposed champion to just be nobody.
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>>164484449
which game is this? can someone please help me out
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>>164724736
Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13.
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>>164724824
thank you!
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>>164720628
never ever pcucks
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>>164724723
Definitely this. Funny thing, most of them to me from 8 onward seem a bit generic. Especially Wen Yang.
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>>164726191
i'm gonna screencap this and on the day it's released post it and tell you to eat shit
>>
UNCLE YOU BACKSTABBING TRAITOR
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>>164726469
Wen Yang's fundamental design is literally supposed to be Zhao Yun 2.0 because ROTK implied it that way
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>>164730556
The Romance is really garbage. The Chronicles are much better. the manga for it is amazing too
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Post dem mains.
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>>164733492
Only the most based.
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>>164733492
No image on me for now, so Wei Yan.
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>>164706663
Liao Hua
Man Chong
Cheng Pu


That's it, add whomever else after that point.
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>>164733492
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>>164733492
With her updated weapon
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>>164733492
His C6->EX is actually really fun to use.
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Why Koei hates their western audience? Half of their stuff will never get an English release, and there's a fat chance that we won't get a power-up kit for RotK 13.
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>>164747364
What? Koei is one of the few game companies that still constantly bump out games and bring it to the west. Heck, we all thought that Godseeker would remain Japan-only, and yet it's still coming over soon.

The only recent games that stay Japan-only are mobile shit, too niche to sale (Harukanaru Toki no Naka de) or would be too controversial (DoAX3)
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I just hope DW9 has English voice lines.

Getting rather irked at all the jap screeching from some of the females...
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>>164750296
>G-gomenasai
>S-sumimasen
Jesus! Shut the fuck up, Naotora.
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>>164747618
This. I'm dually impressed by the company's efforts to localize their titles. They're the reason we got Dragon Quest Heroes. I can handle subs if it means we get the game in a timely manner. Voice acting is a bit redundant, at least for me.
>>
>9
>>
Which Samurai Warriors girls are candidates for the subjective title of Best Girl?

Please include reasoning.
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>>164713130
>>164713658
>>164714139
Okay, the event triggered on the January 1st, 200 so these events do check for time. Cao Cao took the Red Hare from me and gave it to Guan Yu ;_;
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>>164706663
More from Other. And I mean Other, not Lu Bu. Yuan Shu, Gongsun Zan, Liu Biao, etc. People who have an important battle every or most games, but are just random generic man. Yan Liang, Wen Chou, and a Nanman or two would be nice to give Yuan Shao and Nanman more character. Maybe someone to Dong Zhuo (not Lu Bu) like Li Jue or Guo Si. Possibly another Yellow Turban, but hopefully with Zhou Cang Koei won't just gloss over him being in the yellow turbans to get right to the Guan Yu wank.
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>>164755730
Hang in there.
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>>164758916
Don't worry, I'll manage somehow.
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>>164733492
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>>164759194
Which game is this, exactly?
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>>164750296
Then stop playing as shit girls like Xiao and Liu Bei's cocksleeve.
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>>164759974
RotK 13
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>>164759194
this Lingqi is much cuter
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>>164758696
Could a yellow turban faction work? I doubt Zhou Cang will be repping it anytime soon.
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>>164761741
Debatable, but all Lingqi are noticeably pretty.

Lingqi is undisputed Best Girl.
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>>164760019
Thanks.

Downloading now.
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Why do people hate Dong Zhou again?
>kills traitorous ministers
>keeps order in the imperial city
>treats his dudes very well
I think the warlords were just asshurt they couldn't be chancellor.
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>>164764221

History is written by the victors anon, that's why people "hate" Dong Zhou.
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>>164764221
Best boss to work for
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>>164733492
marvelous taste you have
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>>164754663
She's cute
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>struggling to win in the 2nd Wei level in DW8
I can't be the only one.
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>>164766432
Don't fight Lu Bu
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>>164766530
I tried, but I can't run away from him! He focuses only on me for some reason.
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>>164766883
What happens when Lu Bu pursues you?
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>>164766883
Did you have the poor judgment to kill Diaochan? Because that'd piss him off.
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>>164766883
Every officer does that when they meet you, summon your horse, charge through Luoyang, don't fight anyone (especially Diaochan) except for the officers before the gates and Dong Zhuo himself.

If Lu Bu catches up to you, switch attack is a good way to override his attacks, knock him down and continue onwards, also keep your musou bar filled so that if he tries to use his musou (ohko against you) you can immediately use your own and cancel the damage you'd have gotten. His jump musou is awfully strong, but it works in a straight line, so run to the side when he does that.
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>>164767151
>Did you have the poor judgment to kill Diaochan
>>164767317
>don't fight anyone (especially Diaochan)
Yeah... About that...
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>>164764221
I like his character and characterization. Of course he isn't a saint.
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>>164766432
>>164766883
I struggled with this, too. You have to avoid Lu Bu at all costs, and avoid Diaochan entirely. Hit her for a bit, get her to go on the defensive and then run away. Eventually, she'll stop pursuing you. You could risk beating her up a bit, have Lu Bu come to her side and then run to Dong. Don't defeat her, but let Lu Bu come to her side when you see him on the dialogue box.

Alternatively, get on a horse before the event appears.
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>>164770878
where do dynasty warriors keep their horses
they teleport out of the ether
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>>164774302
You just don't see them until you actually need them.
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>>164764221
Dong Zhuo was the hero that China needed
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>>164776207
fat cunt
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>>164776310
DELET THIS
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>>164776369
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>>164776310
I wonder how many 'gentlemen' lingered in the Han Dynasty.
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>10
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Li Dian is a fucking faggot and deserves to die.
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misunderstood hero or twisted psychopath???
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Whats her fucking problem? Dong Zohu isn't a bad dude, jsut give him a chance so your father doesn't fast himself to death.
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>>164786169
Rude.
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>10
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>GENERAL
>DIAOCHAN
>GENERAL
>DIAOCHAN
>GENERAL
>DIAOCHAN
>GENERAL
>DIAOCHAN
fucking kill me.
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>all the Don Jowl apologists in this thread

Disgusting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KlRkU0naUI
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Who gets a happy ending in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms? An ambition fullfiled, or at least a peaceful death?
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>>164799264
Sima Yi and Cao Cao to an extent
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>>164799520
>Cao Cao
>ambition fullfiled
Not even close.
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>>164799520
>Sima Yi
>Happy ending
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>>164796846
I wasn't lying when I said that it's a fucking slog to get through those scenes
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>>164799264
To an extent, Chen Gong probably fits the criteria the most. He knew he's done all that he could for the country and seek execution despite Cao Cao's pleading, he also knew full well that the family he left behind will also be well under Cao Cao's care.
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JUST ONE MORE HIT AND I WOULD HAVE WON

DAMMIT
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>10
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Hand-to-hand moveset when
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playing dynasty warriors while a good episode of a podcast plays is prettyy good feel
>>
MORE PC RELEASES
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>>164815324
just use the tonfa
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>>164817186
Hoping for one when DW9 hits.
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Anyone played Sanadamaru?
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>10
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>>164799264
Sima Yan, though he fucked over all his descendants and the future of the Empire in the process.
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>The city of Shu
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>>164826105
>>164826734
>>
Since we watched ROTK last night, is that the definitive version or are there other versions that do things better, different, etc.?
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>>164820120
It still hasn't been localized yet, so the answer is obviously no.
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>>164828740
Just wondering if anyone imported it. Will it even be localised? Heard it's based on a TV show.
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>>164828826
Koei's generally pretty good about localizing their stuff.
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>>164828826
http://gematsu.com/2016/09/toukiden-2-atelier-firis-nights-azure-2-samurai-warriors-sanada-maru-coming-west
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Fuck me lads, I've started to catch myself doing that stupid Cao Cao laugh from the show.
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>>164831829
Next you need to grab your cousins and conquer China
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>>164831829
Now go murder your uncle.
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>>164831829
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Goodnight thread.
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>>164836584
it's 4:21 AM, the fuck are you doing going to bed now of all times?
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>>164836674
Not everyone lives in burgerland.
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>>164693681
>better relationship
Sima Yi acknowledges his wife exists, let alone has a relationship with her. Yueying doesn't even feel like an actual character in 8 until Zhuge Liang is dead.

>>164767317
Most switch attacks have invincibility frames. I remember one video of a low level Cao Cao defeating Lu Bu during the first Wei stage by abusing war fan switch attacks to remain invincible during Lu Bu's musou attacks.
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>>164836674
>America is the entire world

>>164839546
Sima Yi is terrified of his wife though even if he's based as hell otherwise.
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>>164839546
Some switch attacks can even stun or outright knock down the enemy even when they have hyper armo. If you have the patience, you can just spam switch attacks in Lu Bu's face until you kill him.
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Who the fuck is Zhou Cang and why is does he look like such an adventurous fellow?
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>>164845538
>Who the fuck is Zhou Cang
Literal Guan Yu's fanboy.

>why is does he look like such an adventurous fellow?
He was a hobo for almost 20 years before he got to meet his idol.
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>>164846516
So, our only new officer so far is Guan Yu's Pet Bum?
>>
Dynasty Warriors 8 is fantastic and all, but it would be much cooler if it had properly made boss battles, like in Dragon Quest Heroes. It lacks that "shit just got real" feel, all those much-hyped legendary generals just stand there, like regular officers.
>>
if there arent anything to talk about, you dont have to create a thread about it, you know? Let this one dies in peace
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>>164836674
It's the weekend duuuuuude~
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>>164848781
We will desperately cling to the past like our boy Yuan Shao.
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>>164848781
We're due for more info, though, since they announced a new game and all. Stop trying to kill us, we tried being dead and it got boring.
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>>164781523
Never really pay much attention until now, but SSX has a surprisingly large bust. Always thought she was flat-ish.
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>>164848781
>if there arent anything to talk about
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>>164848781
You again!
This weak mentality of yours is despicable. That's not the Wei to think. You have to fight and struggle to stay alive and to keep things afloat. If were this easy to keep a general going, you'd see a lot of people taking up a sword, or even a spear. Guan Yu went to fight Hua Xiong with no one knowing his name or feats or a heads up on his abilities and look what happened. He and his sworn brothers became acknowledged in the alliance and went to achieve great things, simply by not giving up. a winner never quits and a quitter never wins.

Which of those best describes you?
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>>164852616
That's not me
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>>164852849
Suuuure
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>>164854910
There is nothing for me to gain from deceiving you anon
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>>164855431
To gain? No. But to preserve? Yes. Specifically, you remain that much more anonymous, which is the boon that shitposters thrive upon. become too noticeable, and you become less efficient.
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>oh no, we ran out of Guan kids
>quick, we need someone new
>let's add his dicksucker of a fanboy
>genius
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>>164857303
>oh no, we ran out of Guan kids
They made a daughter for Zhuge "Nev'lance" Liang. They could make a whole armada of them and still make bank.
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>>164857303

Holy fuck, RTKXIII images have so much meme potential. My sides
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>>164858372
Someone should make a folder exclusively for those and drop a link to it.
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>>164858094
They what now?
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>>164859154
Zhuge Shi.
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>>164859291
Well shit.

I also looked it up and they even gave him a Son, too.
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>>164859409
Oh shit.
Well, there's our next Shu reps.
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>>164859505
It's only a matter of time until we lack Generic Officers entirely, and have an entire cast of Playables. With increasingly ridiculous weapons.

>DW 17 introduces Dong Wang, Dong Zhuo's third cousin who once stole a horse from Zhuge Liang's uncle Zhuge Mao
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>>164859505
>>164859409
It gets worse. His Bio mentiones that he himself had a son, Zhuge Shang.

They turned a virgin into a grandpa. And we still don't have much for a Wu Gen 2.
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Can I transfer dw8 saves between computer and vita? I have both and want to transfer save data to my vita so I can play during my commute
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no, dw games dont have cross save even between ps4 & vita
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>>164860857
>>164860681
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>>164860857

they do actually, i frequently transfer between my ps4 and vita all the time
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>>164859731
I hope to live long enough to see that.
>The bench in 8E was a foreshadowing of things to come
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>>164861269
whats that?
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>>164861783
An execution cross. Just think of the possibilities.
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>>164861269
>>164861783
*notices cross*
OwO
What's this?
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>>164859291
nice peaches
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>>164862532
I'm still sad that Pang De doesn't fight with a coffin.
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>>164831829
Weird, I've been doing some Dong Zhuo laughing myself
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What are some 'Other' officers you'd like to see become Playable?

I'd like to see He Jin, myself, even if he'd have even less of a role than Sun Jian.
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>>164866240
Gao Shun, Hua Xiong, Wen Chou and Yan Liang. Would flesh out the factions within the other.

Ma Teng and/or Han Sui could be nice (also as a way to introduce Pang De early instead of dying right away), if the former then Koei would certainly use the chance to introduce Ma Yunlu.

On the other hand, I don't think that Yuan Shu needs anything, he should remain the as the jobber of RotK.
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>>164866240
Gongsun Zan!
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>>164866240
Yuan Shu.
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>>164867043
What about Yuan Yao?
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>>164866881
Horsefucker asshole
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>>164866240
>Yuan Shao faction:
Yan Liang, Wen Chou, Qu Yu, any of Yuan Shao's sons, Ju Shou, Tian Feng, Shen Pei, Feng Ji, Lady Liu
>Dong Zhuo faction:
Hua Xiong, Li Jue, Guo Si, Dong Bai
>Xiliang Rebel Faction:
Ma Teng, Han Sui, Yan Xing, Cheng Gongying
>Liu Zhang/Riverlands: Zhang Ren, Zhang Song, Li Yan, Huang Quan
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>>164866240
Gao Shun.
I just want more Lu Bu
Yuan Shu would be cool as well.
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Thoughts on hatless Wenyuan?
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>>164870630
DELET
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>>164870630
Nice
>>164870029
Add Gao Shun to Dong Zhuo faction
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>>164870892
His hair is nice. I don't understand why he hides it under his hat.
It's not like he is bald or anything.
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>>164870630
Sexy. The hat needs to go away.
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>>164871220
I think it would be better to have him be hatless under Lu Bu and Dong Zhou and then he puts on the hat and his blue outfit under Cao Cao.
It could even be an option in free mode just like Xiahou Dun's eyepatch, Xu Shu hood, Sima Shi mask and so on.
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>>164870630
WHO the FUCK
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>>164866881
>tfw no Koihime Musou Musou
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>>164871452
Nobody cared who I was before I put on the hat.
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How strict are the requirements for events in RoTK 13? In NA the game is anal about the specific requirements and if they're even slightly off then they won't fire and potential quests will never be assigned. If your Sun Jian, do you just automatically die from the ambush event or do you have the option to pursue/not pursue?
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>>164866240
Guo Si, Hua Xiong, Wan Chou and Zang Ba
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>tfw this won't be the basis of Yukimura's design in the future

Hopefully the age system atleast stays in the future
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>>164877374
Depends

Hero mode or the story mode puts you on specific officers in their scenario and it ends when you achieve the target or you don't.

Free mode also have story but less, just the first few in that year. If you play Sun Jian you'll just not get anymore scenarios once its near his death.
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>>164878204
we'll NEVER EVER get cool, badass warriors ever agian
we'll just forever get dumb waifu kawaii moe desus and 14 year old fuccbois
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>>164878669
Regular skin is cool too

If they keep the age system, it'll affect Masamune anyway
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>10
we are as indecisive as Yuan Shao
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>>164881413
Almost as dead as Guan Yu is more like it.
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>>164877374
Well, RoTK has no quests so even if the event does not fire it doesn't usually change much. Events at best
>kill some officers
>move some officers between forces
>give or take a city

I've never played a character who had a choice about an event, but I assume that there are options if you play as them, because when skipping an event you get the "historical choices will be chosen automatically" prompt
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>>164881801
Or scratch that, it technically has some, but they're minor "aid the people of the city" or "do something to befriend this guy", nothing plot-critical.
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I want to play as a book
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>>164883112
I'd risk getting a papercut on my dick for Plachta.
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What ever happened to Blu Meng?
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>10
I've fucking had enough of Liu Bei. I don't care that Ma Teng is currently trying to take Luoyang. I don't care that Wu is marching towards Xiapi. All I care about right now is capturing Liu Bei and Guan Yu who are currently at Runan. With Yu Jin and Cao Ren in my attacking force this can't go wrong. Zhang Fei is rearguard back in the south west but he sucks so I don't care if he lives.
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>>164887918
Good, fuck Shu.
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Liu Bei takes charge and brings all his men to contest the base outside the walls. I've pincered Zhao Yun and have superior troop quality so ez victory I imagine. Lu Meng's versailte command ability is really good as it boosts morale, attack, and defense in a pretty decent radius so it's great for trying to defeat formations as quick as possible
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>>164887918
Even as a Wei officer, Lu Meng will always try to kill Guan Yu whenever he can, huh
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>>164888486
What a hero.
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oh man Cao Cao is fighting Guan Yu and he's getting wrecked. One of Guan Yu's irellevent sons arrived with a few thousand but I've corned around 10k archers who will be promptly destroyed. Really worried about that Guan Yu fight because if Cao Cao dies then I'm not sure what to do
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>>164888978
If Double Bovine bites it, then you will have no choice but to embrace your destiny as Teal Meng, Hero of Jin
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>>164888978
use So So's strategy to make him survive longer
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Using masterful bait, I have completely surrounded Guan Yu's unit. While he will probably escape wounded he will be taken out of the fight which allows me to bumrush liu bei. worthy of a brazzers logo IMO
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Quick question, what is the most efficient way of turning two allied clans against eachother?

Is it as simple as making an alliance with them and requesting reinforcements before they can renew their alliance or whatnot? Because I simply lack the manpower to do this alone, and the folks to the west just can't cut it either. Or, they more or less can, but they're too far away to make a dent in the situation I'M dealing with, so it's a moot point. Folks down south, though, keep allying with these Tokugawa bitches, but don't actually do shit, and in the month or two that they aren't allied, these Saotomi fellows become 'Interested' in my team, with intent of taking down the Tokugawas. I'm trying to use that, but unless I just need some good timing, I'm at a loss of how to accomplish such a feat.
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Its ogre. With the defeat at Runan I blitz towards Xinye and ended Shu and captured them all. I don't think I can personally execute them so I hope that Cao Cao just lets them sit in prison and doesn't release them.
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Pushing my luck, we marched to Wan and Xianyang in order to eliminate Liu Biao as well. well it worked, the western side of the empire is now weakened with few troops to defend and Ma Teng's relentless assault on Luoyang. The anti-Cao Cao coalition has fallen apart with the destruction of Liu Biao and Liu Bei. However there are just not enough troops close enough to rush to Luoyang's aid and it will most likely fall. Cao Cao also got promoted again so all Wei officers are now at 100 loyalty
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>>164890518
So, now that Guan Yu is doomed, what's next on the agenda?

Gonna try and unfuck the Wu buisness back home?
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>>164891570
Can you play as an emperor and try to legitimately unify China?
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>>164891570
I hate how you can't exchange soldiers between cities like you can with gold and supplies, after defeating Yuan Shao his lands are almost completely useless for Cao.
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>>164891574
If one of Sun Jian/Ce/Quan were still
alive, at this point I would say that I carried out Zhou Yu's plan of 2 states and defect back to Wu. Since they're all dead though I will remain with Cao Cao and try to get as much done before one of us dies.
>>164891772
I don't believe so. The highest you can play is He Jin.

Cao Cao in his infinite wisdow, decided to make me viceroy at this very moment with my capital being Luoyang, which is currently about to get taken by Ma Teng. He also gave me the cities I just ravaged and conquered so I need to recruit some dudes and rebuild the land. Liu Bei IS imprisoned in Xinye which is my viceroyalty, so perhaps I can recruit him and trust he doesn't fuck me.
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>>164893103
Revolt my dude

Nothing would go wrong
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Can we talk about Fate Extella here when its out?
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>>164894398
I guess, about as much as you can Hyrule Warriors.

Which is not much at all but nobody really cares to object since hey talk is talk
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>>164893103
Which scenario did you play?

I'm a shufag and I always go from post Yi province and I always curbstomp Wu in a couple of years and have a huge problem moving up north

Like it toke me a solid 2 years of campaign just to get XiangYang because Wei force just keep trickling back in 1 after another
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oh no. It turns out that I'm not the viceroy of 5 commanderies, but 13 of them that contains Yu Jin, Cao Ren, and Zhang Liao. I control the entire western half of Wei including the imperial capital.
>>164894628
I started at 195 Warlords where Sun Ce already declared independence so I could go join him at the start. As it stands because a lot of good Wu officers haven't died like Zhou Yu, Lu Su, and Taishi Ci, Wei hasn't really been doing much since the end of the anti-Cao Cao coalition besides growing domestically.
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Which Musou should I buy for PS4 Warriors Orochi 3 Ult, Dw8XE or Dw8 Empires?

I haven't played one in ages and need a Dynasty Warriors fix.
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>>164897000
DW8CE
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War begins yet again. Satisfied with the development of the land Cao Cao decides to launch another attack against Wu in the east. I personally advised against it yet again as Ma Teng is growing stronger and stronger and conquering the west unapposed, but Cao Cao went ahead anyways and I'm supporting him with troops that should be fighting Ma Teng as I would prefer if this wasn't a repeat of the battle of Shouchun a few years ago. How fun is a Ma Teng playthrough? entire cavalry squads sounds cool.
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>>164897000
WO3U, DW8XLCE, SW4, SW4E
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Heres the strategic map of the land. I was called to a meeting to discuss the Viceroyalty objectives all the way on the other side of Wei, when we should of just held it in Luoyang. Ma Teng is currently marching south to take dark blue's land. I really need to resolve the deadlock at Shouchun as fast as possible to pull back my troops to attack Ma Teng so he doesn't become even stronger. Ma Teng has like 10+ generals with over 90 LEA and WAR.
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>>164897474
Never mind. Ma Teng and Cao Cao just formed an alliance. World domination here we come.
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>>164897000
Anything past DW5 and WO2 isn't worth it.
Hyrule Warriors being a special exception but that's on Wii U.
Sengoku Basara 4 is worth importing however, there's a bundle with that and it's expansion on ps4.
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>>164897654
Pang De and Blu Meng, Conquest Buddies
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>>164897474
Wait a second, if you have that much land, how many officers are under your direct command?

could you actually revolt and reasonably make it?
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>>164898982
I'm not actually sure how to revolt. When I defected from Wu to Wei I just went to my city and selected free which made me an independent officer and then went to Wei's capital and selected apply to become an officer of Wei. If revolt mechancics aren't in, I hope they add them in the PUK coming in like a month. Another thing to understand is how the chain of command in RoTK works. unlike Fuedal lords and vassals, viceroys and governors don't actually own the land but governs it in the name of their warlord. I think a good way to say it is that viceroys are like an extension of their warlords will and authority, and if a viceroy was to revolt it would be in name only and with no legal power. This diagram I drew sorta helps I believe. the warlord can order around anyone and anything, while a viceroy can order anyone and anything in their viceroyalty but the warlord still retains the right to do whatever they want in the viceroyalty. governors can order around officers in cities to do stuff but the viceroys and warlords retain the right to do whatever they want in the commandery. The ministers are somewhat special in that they hold no land, but can still order around officers to do missions. If there is a way to revolt and keep the land you have, I would like to know it.
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>>164900226

You can revolt, you have to be gov or viceroy I think and the option pops up in your city.
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>10
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>>164900226
You need to establish a good relationship with the officers you want on your side before you revolt though
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>>164904585
I'm playing a different game but as a warlord this time, and it seems really hard to recruit officers. It seems really restricted the range you can recruit from and officers just a few bases away aren't able to be selected to be recruited. Is there a way to fix this or do I just have to conquer bases closer to the city with the officer I want for the option to hire?
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>>164444118
>watch a true warrior makes his exit
>burns himself and his wife

wew lad
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>>164908717
Setting one's self on fire is the mark of a TRUE warrior! Even Blackbeard did it!
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>>164908893
this tb h. How can that Xiaoqiao poster truly claim he lovers her if he hasn't eaten her flaming poop?
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>>164909528
Xiaoqiao is for headpats, cuddles and teasing.
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>9
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Lu Dai and He Qi never ever.
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Also Cheng Pu, Rong Kong and Sun Yi.
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>>164919327
>>164917438
Tigermom never.
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I managed to track down the Cao Cao series, and the subs are in chinese.

Anyone have a source for some subs I can attach? Or one with subs already on it? I figure if anyone knows a quick source off the top of their head its someone here.
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Page 10 EMERGENCY bump.
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>>164924772
It's already past midnight, so we must fend off the vile forces of
>page 10
until morning when reinforcements will arrive.
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http://nintendoeverything.com/rumor-koei-tecmo-working-on-new-nintendo-themed-warriors-game-for-switch/

IT'S TIME
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>>164927641
I want to believe
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>>164927641
I actually wish it were HW2, I don't care for Fire Emblem.
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>>164927637
It's afternoon in Wei
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>>164927641
I already said it once, I'll say it again. I'll gladly buy a Switch just to be able to play a Fire Emblem Musou
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>>164927641
Mario Musou >>>/v/363167312
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Oh god more Nintendo faggotry. You fags were so annoying during the HW release trying to say it was good even though it was hot garbage
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>>164931335
>musou
>not hot garbage by default
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>>164931460
Yeah yeah the same response as before

>le all musous are bad! Please accept hyrule warriors!
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>>164931335
Yeah, page 10 for half of the thread will be paradise compared to the days ahead.
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>>164921458
English subs don't exist. It's not popular enough.
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>>164931656
I don't understand where you're coming from

>the games are bad but hyrule warriors is the baddest
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>>164931962
If you don't understand then obviously you haven't been here during those times. Just fuck off then, don't even bother replying.
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>>164931335
>not enjoying all musous.kyon.jpg

All musou are welcome here, you can fuck off back to /v/ for your consolewar bullshit.

Given how this is your first post after 600 posts only to comment about hurrdurr nintenfags, you should just shut the fuck up and stick to lurking
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>>164932137
I admit that I don't remember much of the posts during the time the game came out but that's mainly because I don't have the game

Why so hostile, anon?
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>Nintendo Warriors™ announced
>"Hey guys I am a long time /eagg/ poster and long time musou fan, so hype for Nintendo Warriors™! Did anyone pre order? Who do you think is going to be playable? Obviously Mario and Lugi!"
>m-maybe Zhao Yu-
>"Who?"
JUST
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>>164932416
>Nintendo Warriors announced
>nintendrones amirite h-haha
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>>164932328
That anon is on point, shitters whose first musou was Hyrule Warriors were claiming it to be the best musou they ever played. I had problems with it despite being a Zelda fan and playing other musous, I'd say HW is around the middle. The only good thing about HW is that it made me look for more musou games and I never looked back. Even worse are the people who want Nintendo Musou. Smash Bros. was bad enough.
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>mfw Nintendo Defense Force itt

That pic is of Ma Chao btw, pretty sure you didn't know
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I'm still looking forward to an Emblem Musou. I mean, it's not like they don't have a dickload of possible playables.

Hell, they could just remake one of the older games in a Musou format and it'd be fine.
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>>164933393
>Smash Bros
What was wrong with SSB?
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>>164935401
Smash is fine, but because we have it, we don't need a general Nintendo Musou. It'd be redundant pandering to a very specific handful of fans, and would probably be unfun to boot.
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>>164935401
Smash brings every fanbase from Mario, to Custom Robo and as of Brawl, 3rd parties under the same umbrella. It gets chaotic and outright unbearable to have Smash threads without roster nonsense and shitposting about the metagame and gameplay. I've had my fill on it. The waiting periods for Smash are bad. Brawl was bearable, Four was cancerous and Smash Switch isn't gonna be any better.
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>>164933393
>shitters whose first musou was Hyrule Warriors were claiming it to be the best musou they ever played
This is pretty much the thing that I hate the most about HW. I don't play the game so I don't know whether it's good or bad, but I hate how people always say that Musou games are repetitive and are just mindless button masher, and yet slap a skin of a popular franchise like Zelda on a Musou game and those same people will instantly claim it's the best game ever.
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Why did one of the cutest designs go to such an annoying character?

I want to like her, but goddamn...
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>>164938432
Is it the voice, or the personality?
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>>164938614
Little bit of both, really. If it were just one or the other, it's not so bad; There's plenty worse in those regards out there. But with the two together, it's a deal breaker.
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>>164938857
Funny, because that's what I think about pic related. At least her fag posts some nice fanarts from time to time.
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>>164941032
That's what I think of her too

except her only good design was in 6
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>>164941032
>>164941814
Who, then, would you say are your favorite girls?
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>>164942656
I'm not telling you fags who my waifu is
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>>164943296
Oh...ok.

Waifu is a strong word, but Lu Lingqi is my personal favorite.
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>>164943642
that thing on her breasts, are those armor? why do they still jiggle?
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>>164942656
Daqiao for DW, though Lingqi is currently my waifu, and Kunoichi for SW, though I don't like SW female character as much as DW's.
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>>164944440
Yeah, SW seems pretty sparse as far as quality female characters go.
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>>164944579
SW in general has worse characterization than DW imo. I can hardly think up anyone I outright hate in DW, and yet I can name quite a few in SW.
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>>164944967
wouldn't that be because DW characters are all bland?
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>>164945070
I'm having a little deja vu here, but to me I find bland characters to be more tolerable than outright bad characters, I'd take Xu "Way of the Warrior" Huang any day over Mitsunari. And god forbid mentioning Kanetsugu, he's basically Ma Chao on steroid.
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>>164945070
That doesn't make sense
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>>164945165
Seriously though, what the hell is the point of Xu Huang? What has he accomplished, like, ever?
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>>164941032
Thank you sir, another one for the folder.
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>>164931842
There are english subs on the DVD, which is more or less what I was referring to. Besides; isn't the webm from the top from the series? Unless there's another young Cao Cao thing I missed.
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Thoughts on old man Zhongmou?
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>>164949213
Wouldn't mind seeing him like that during the Jin campaign.
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>>164949213
>>164949409
I want 9 to actually age some characters, old man He would be the tits. I'd love to see pic related call Huang Gai a young pup while on the battlefield.
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>DW9
>Jin abolished
>each force is now split into early period and late period
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>>164950034
DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS
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>>164949936
Old Man Zhao Yun would be especially neat.

He's, like, the only one who actually died of age, not sickness, battle or other nonsense.
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>>164950869
>dying of age
>not dying of sickness
Same shit lad
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>>164950034
I'd post the pic, but I already wasted it:
>>164914030
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>>164950978
Not really. Some people just get too old to keep being alive.

Granted, the chance of getting sick and dying from it increases with age, but it's not synonymous.
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>>164951064
Getting told old to keep being alive means like being 100+ at least. Dying of old age generally means 'of natural causes'...which means, you know, getting a little sick and your body saying 'haha yeah nah I'm old I'm done'
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>>164951168
All true, but supposedly, that's exactly what happened with Zhao Yun. He lived a long fucking time, and eventually that stopped.
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>>164945165
>Kanetsugu
Speaking of him, his dialogue with Aya in WO3 was disturbing.
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>>164954069
What'd he say?
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Would DW9 benefit from using the soft engine on female characters?
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>>164957701
Aya got mad at him and he was 'punished'. The dialogue was something outside a bondage flick.
>"You've been bad, haven't you?!"
>"Yes, Lady Aya! I need to be punished!"
Something like that.
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>>164957821
Methinks someone had a few too many meat buns here...
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>>164958608
Yeesh. Who approved that?
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>9

Stop being dead.
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Dead like Guan Yu.
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>>164963009
RoTK with multiplayer when?
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>>164963009
He went to another dimension.
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>>164963009
I like how in 8, his death scene is shown in three different ways depending on faction.

One even had him explode into a pillar of light and nobody even bats an eye.
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>>164964404
But that's how it happened IRL, isn't it?
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>>164965415
No.
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>>164468734
SW Keiji > SB Keiji
Rest is spot on
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>>164964404
>One even had him explode into a pillar of light and nobody even bats an eye.
Fuck this one in particular
>play historical Wei route
>expect something cool for them at the end
>it's more Guan Yu cocksucking
EVERY DAY UNTIL YOU LIKE IT
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>>164967241
that's just wrong
I honestly can't think of a single thing SW actually has over Basara.
I don't get how Basara struggles while musou is just mindlessly ate up. The quality difference is fucking astounding.
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>>164967275
>play Wu route
>he takes Lu Meng with him
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>>164967931
Dick killed Hua Xiong, too. Guan Yu a shit.
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>>164967931
>play Shu route
>he takes Guan Ping with him
>his death is worse for Shu in their route than in the others
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What the fuck is up with these conversation poses in Warriors Orochi 3?

>SSX trying way too hard to be sexy
>Ding Feng looks like he's just been deeply insulted by his own hands
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>10
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>>164974282
At what point was Zhang He at his most fabulous?
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>>164976079
I would say six, but even for him, that's too flamboyant. Seven seemed to balance things out.
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>>164963929

There's always dynasty warriors online :^)
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>>164979074
I thought they shut their servers down?
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>>164980410

No, it's still up. Japanese subs only though
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>>164981312
Boo.

Is it really so hard to dub shit? I mean, they translate all the dialogue for the subs anyway, and that's the only difficult part. All you gotta do is get someone decent to say words for you and boom. What's the big problem?
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>>164981838
Because why would the Japanese servers have English dubs?
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>>164981838
Why would you ever need dub, anyway? English dub for japanese stuff is 99% shit. Wang Yi's "THIS FEELS GREAT" from DW8 still haunts me.
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>>164983012
Because the animalistic grunting and high-pitched screeching of the jap dub is infinitely worse.
>>
Is this the fated end...?
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>>164988074
We're just waiting for a good moment.
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>>164988074
>/eagg/ forces are in disarray!
>Page 10 forces have gained morale!
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How do you feel about Sengoku Basara? I love it's ridiculousness. I've been replaying Sumeragi a lot after getting burnt out last year.
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>>164991323
It will always be inferior to SW.
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>>164994691
I enjoy both version of the characters, there isn't much point in arguing who is superior when their style is so different imo.
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>>164967420
Gameplay, maybe. But there's no way SB characters are better than SW, SW characters are already one dimensional enough, but SB characters are even more so, and SB character designs are so over the top anime, it's ridiculous.
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>>164996008
SB designs are also shameless fujoshit pandering which nobody should approve of.
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>>164991323
It's cool
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>>164996008
>>164996170
SB designs are creative, funny and pretty likeable.
SW's are just so bland and nothing. Like who even remembers any of the cast?
The characters in SB are memorable as FUCK.
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>>164991323
magoichi best grill
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>>165002709
>memorable

yeah generic fujo pandering bishie 1, 2, 3, and 4

so memorable, oh right one of them is a gundam for no reason so wacky such good design
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>>165003241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qwqV_5p9_I
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>>165003241
SB is less fujo pandering than garbage like SW mitsunari and all the shitty bishis
SB's characters are awesome and manage to be super likeable even if they don't look it. Mitsunari in SB is an awesome, funny, melodramatic crazy edgelord where as in SW he's just... a bishie.
Or Ieyasu who's just.. a fat guy. While in SB he's a FUCKING GUNDAM LIKE HOLY SHIT.
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>>165006490
>Mitsunari in SB is an awesome, funny, melodramatic crazy edgelord
he's fujobait
like, out of all the characters, you pick mitsunari as an example for not a bishie?
c'mon
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>>165007307
>edgelord virgil wannabe
>fujo pandering

>when SW mitsunari looks like he walked straight out of a shitty boyband
>>
>SBfags shitposting is the only thing keeping us alive

at least you retards aren't completely useless.
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>musou better than basara in any way
>>
There's a reason Basara hasn't been localized since the third one.
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>>165007790
I'm not gonna defend SW Mitsubari, because he's absolute shit, but SB Mitsunari is definitely fujo material
>Blind loyalty to Hideyoshi
>Edegelord with a soap opera backstory
>Friend with another edgelord who admit that Mitsunari is his reason for living
>The stupid boy band hairstyle
>IEYASUUUUuUU
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>>165010869
Is it because capcom is a fucking awful company who thought DmC was a good idea?
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>>165010974
Exactly. Koei at the time prioritized and optimized their business model.
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>>165011192
Capcom make the better games.
Koei just made better desicions.
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>>165011425
>capcom make the better games
>DmC
>SFV
>RE7

try again
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>>165011425
>better desicions
And that always prevails, no matter how well-tuned a game is.
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>>165011821
Name a good game Koei has made post-DW5.
protip: there isn't one

>>165011854
I'd rather play Sumeragi in JP than any musou though.
It's impossible to go back to a musou after experiencing the art, characters and gameplay of SB.
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>>165012012
Here you go.
You didn't hear about, though. The team was too busy working on the game instead of blowing the budget on the marketing.
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>>165011821
>DW6
>SW3
>RoTKXII
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>>165012012
DW7, DW8, SW4, SW4-2, ROTK13, Berserk Musou

wow that sure was hard.

Capcom is shit and so is basara stay mad.
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>>165012140
So literally nobody played it. Nice job, Koei.

>>165012209
This. Koei have just shit the bed since DW5 and Basara has consistently blown them out of the water.
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>>165012334
It actually sold more in America than in Japan. Not a big budget game, but not a flop, either. It made a little profit, and for a game of that scale, it's fine.

Now piss off.
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>>165012334
>This. Koei have just shit the bed since DW5 and Basara has consistently blown them out of the water.

>>165012318
try again
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>>165012318
I thought berserk was a letdown?
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>>165012441
>Now piss off.
You first with this off-topic shitty game nobody has ever heard of.
I'm on topic for this general, you're being retarded and irrelevant. company fanboys like you are honestly ridiculous.

>>165012318
Really? THOSE are what you'd call "good"?
They're nowhere near the level of Basara in nearly all aspects. Gameplay, characters, style, performance, fun content, level design, variety, complexity.
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>>165012640
>off-topic
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>>165012736
Yes, off-topic. I'm discussing actual musou games relevant to the genre. Not using some vague assosciation with an unreleased game to shill for my favourite company's literal who game.
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>>165012640
>They're nowhere near the level of Basara in nearly all aspects. Gameplay, characters, style, performance, fun content, level design, variety, complexity.

>gameplay
bootleg imitation of DW/SW
>characters
see previous point
>style
fujoshit pandering for faggots and teen girls
>performance
runs the same
>fun content
subjective
>level design
hallways sure are great aren't they?
>variety
bishie edgelord 1 bishie edglord 2 bishie edgelord 3, hallway 1, hallway 2, hallway 3
>complexity
see previous point
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No more replies for you.
Someone make a new thread with that pastebin.
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>>165012736
Ooo, can I play too?
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>>165012995
(you)
ironically shitposting with buzzwords isn't funny or witty, anon.
you're better than this.
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So when we make the next thread can we just ignore basarafag shitposting?
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>>165012995
>performance
>runs the same

Sumeragi is 60fps splitscreen, SW is not and DW doesn't give a fuck
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>>165013049
No, this general dies for good.

>>165013157
>can we just ignore shitposting

ftfy, dadudu
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>>165013157
It's honestly sad that you guys are so stuck in the circlejerk mentality that you can't handle any ontopic discussion without crying like triggered babies if they dont circlejerk over how good SW/DW and Koei is.
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>>165013334
You must be new here, it's literally basarafags that start the shitpost wars.
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>>165013334
That's exactly what generals are, a hugbox for """objectively""" correct fags
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>>165013430
Literally all that happened is somebody disagreed with your DW/SW kissassery and instead said they prefered Basara and you just whine S-SHITPOSTING PLS IGNORE

>>165013489
Then they will have to deal with it. Basara is on topic and has no reason not to be in here despite what circlejerking Koei loyalists believe.
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>>165013605
It has always been on topic and I thought most people here like Basara even though it's not discussed as much here compared to /cgg/
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Truly, taking it easy has been lost on modern 4chan.
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>>165013759
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>>165013912
Feels bad.
I don't even give a shit if you prefer Basara or Warriors. Getting mad at someone for preferring the opposite doesn't help anything.
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