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>>164292683

Thats because the MKTW projectile guy make mortar effectiveness like a dice roll.
The shells can either burst in the air far away prematurely, airburst close enough for the shrapnels injuring, explode right when it supposed to be, or just bury itself to the ground to explode many seconds later.

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>>164303212
About to raise another Empire army with Balthazar Gelt as the general. Are there any schools of magic that goes well with lore of metal?
I know he kind of sucks but i want him for the voice lines.

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>150 hours in Shogun 2
>never touched anything but custom battles
Am I missing something out?

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>>164303212
Rollan!

>>164303565

nah the campaign is shit

>>164303173
because that is incorrect to the English language

its not wolfs, shelfs, elfs and the like.
it's wolves, shelves, elves, and dwarves

it's a major part of what makes English a germanic language.

>>164303565
yeah, the campaign

>>164303607
t. butthurt realm divide casual

>>164303565
>Am I missing something out?
Yes, the campaign is damn good

>>164303656
anyone got something like this for Shogun?

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>>164303821

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Empire 2 when?

>>164303869
Pike&Shot or Victoria or WWI will be the next historical title

>>164303639
it isn't incorrect at all in fact it is established that 'elfs' and 'dwarfs' is the correct translation of german 'Elfen' and 'Zwerge'. Pretty much Tolkien alone decided on Dwarves and Elves probably to actually set his moreh umn portrayals apart from the stunted monsters of German folklore.

>>164303495
Bright and Light wizards are busted as fuck imo, especially Light wizards. I won so many battles off my Light wizard's back it's almost hilarious.

>>164303856
Will roll I guess

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>>164303971
>Pike&Shot
Remove Protestant filth!

>>164303971
>Pike&Shot
Terrible meme.

is tw: warhammer a good way to get into this genre?

>>164303473
I found out, it's pretty cool

>>164304467
It's definitely the best way to have fun playing a game. It's the most fun I've had playing a game in a long time, that's for sure.

>>164304467
It's about as good as most of the others
Rome 1, Med 2, Shogun 2 are all good places to start from depending on what time period/location you prefer.

>>164303604
Kill me, Pete.

Subscribe now. Help my broke ass out by smashing that motherfuckign rate button.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=831679533

>>164303639
>its not wolfs, shelfs, elfs and the like.
>it's a major part of what makes English a germanic language.


The plural of the German word Wolf is Wölfe, so I'd say that's just an English quirk.

>>164303995
The words elf and dwarf existed in the English language for centuries before Tolkien, who drew from German mythology just as much as from any other among those he considered to belong to the 'good guys' (Germanic and Finno-Ugric, basically)

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>want to do a bloody handz playthough
>get bored of it at turn 10 or so and alt+f4

Everytime

I need some new content CA

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>>164305053
>tfw playing shogun 2 for the gorillionth time
there's just something about this game

>>164303604
lets see

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>three separate campaigns with empire and I couldn't survive past turn 100 because of the wood elves
>start a dwarf campaign
>fifty turns in and I'm getting my shit pushed in by greenskins
>38 hours into WTW and I haven't completed a fucking campaign
Should I just kill myself? How do I even get good at this? Should I just stop trying to play empire and just play one of the blatantly overpowered factions?
Chaos drops in at turn 100 with rank five armies like the mongols of old medieval. Should I even bother with the campaign at all? Because fuck that entire noise. I don't even know how I'm going to prepare for that.

>>164305275
Nope, you're just a weaboo.

>>164305440
I like the setting, I like the gameplay, I like the graphics.
I just wish we had a new gunpowder total war again, FOTS is just so fun

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When?

>>164305406
Go to their fucking gay forest and burn it. Actually wood elves made empire campaign easy as fuck since all their outposts is unwalled and have almost no garrison.

>>164305406
I didn't finish my first campaign until around 90 hours. I quit at least four Empire campaigns, one Greenskin and a Dwarf campaign before Durthu and I rebuilt the Oak of Ages.

The only way to gitgud is to play more. I'm one of those people who gets pissed when I'm not doing well and I train like crazy to gitgud. The only time you really ought to stop playing is when the game is no longer fun.

Btw, Empire IS good. Just keeping trying m8, you got this

>>164305521
Yes, I like gunpowder gameplay, but this setting is killing me. Goddamn asians.

>>164302975
there are people plebs in this thread right now who actually want a total war that has a completely flat map with no terrain.

i miss these games

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

Guys, how do I get past not ever wanting to lose units? It means every single game I play is taking a couple regions and then shitting out doomstacks against the AI's garbage tier 1 units and steamrolling every battle.

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>mfw it's stabby time

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>tfw no TW pre-dreadnought battles

>>164305912
Best post.

>>164305521
>>164305440
Not a weeb and I agree that a part of Shogun's draw was its alien setting that got lost with subsequent titles featuring the same old knights and centurions as any other historical game, and that it was only with Warhammer that the series recaptured the magic of commanding colourful exotic armies in cool places.

>>164306067
just wait for the next historical

>>164306067
>>164306307
You'll be grayer than Grombrindal before that happens, o hisfags.

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>>164306067
>dreadnought total war never

>>164305406
>38 hours into WTW and I haven't completed a fucking campaign
>actually finishing campaigns
I'm nearly 200 hours in and still haven't finished a campaign.

In my last dwarf campaign I had Ironbreakers by turn 40 and had 2 settlements left to take in the badlands until it was entirely mine by turn 80 (which was after a long detour to completely wipe out Wiessenland and VC). At that point you've basically won the campaign so there isn't much point finishing. I think Empire were fucking up Chaos as well.

Are you some kind of auto-resolve plebian?

I'm playing on very hard and finding that I need to win some pretty tricky battles early on if I want to secure any sort of advantage in the long term.

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>>164303604

Okay, time for a new campaign I suppose

Except Grombrindal, I don't have him

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>>164305912
Thanks, but no thanks.

>>164303495
use him only for dropping transmutation on your enemy's main line - If you want to use the hounds look for a fuckhuge blob or put a hero into melee with enemy cavalry. The hounds can actually do pretty decently vs cav due to the wacky knockback mechanics ingame

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>>164305053
I have the same feel, i get bored af playing WH, I've installed that chaos mod tho that gives you the bloodthirster and shit but now it just depends on whether i can be arsed to turn the game on kek

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>>164306307
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>>164306391
:v

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>>164305741
I think that's my next idea. Fuck uniting the empire until I can burn the fucking forest. I'll start with Volkmar with some flagellants and take Sylvania, and when I get Charles French, I'll burn the knife ears.
>>164305810
I'm having fun despite always getting into a bad spot with my campaigns. So that's a good sign. And it leaves me room to git gud.
>>164306424
I'm not that good. I play most of my battles, except for when it's worthless to even try. My empire campaigns utterly failed to retake Wissenland. Nuln is the fucking toughest nut to crack. So many cannons and guns that you need to either assault it with two doom stacks or wait it out until the defenders starve. And that's a crock of shit.

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>>164306434
S K A R S N I K
K
A
R
S
N
I
K

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>164306546
what did he mean by that

>>164306645
Why is Skarsnik so smart? How is he able to outsmart his enemies so often?

>>164305440
nah Shogun 2 has the best campaign by far. Best map as well.

When nearly every settlement is in a defensible mountainous position a lot of the annoying shit you find in TW games tends to disappear.

That said, I always get frustrated with it for a really simple reason
>The enemy has constant line of sight into castles during sieges
literally makes no sense. If they have more archers then you when attacking your caste it turn what's mean to be a defensible position into a deathtrap.

>>164303995
And Tolkien was a linguist at Oxford.

>>164305051
German is not the same as Germanic.
German is merely one of many West Germanic ethnicities/languages that has had it's own changes and evolution from Proto-Germanic.

As I understand it, things like Gold to Gold, Old to Elder, Mouse to Mice, and Dwarf to Dwarves are very Germanic aspects to language.

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BIKE&SHIT FOR NEXT HISTORICAL TOTAL WAR!

All of Europe, North and South America, North Africa, western Asia, maybe even as far as China and Japan.

CA DO IT!

>>164306667
I just woke up and thought it was a titan

>Thought to be of Thracian or Scythian descent, and believing themselves descended from Herakles himself, the warlike Agathyrsi, also known as Acatziri, lived on a plain that is now part of modern-day Romania from around 700BC. They were famous for their unusual, relaxed attitude to breeding - where everyone belonged to everyone else


What did CA mean by this?

>>164305051
my argument was that the plural 'Elves' and 'Dwarves' did not exist in the english language, not 'elf' and 'dwarf'. The most original english word in fantasy is 'orc' which is actually closer to nordic languages but fairly unique to anglo-saxon english.

>>164303995
You know English folklore is Germanic right? Tolkien didn't steal from Germany, he just used Anglo-Saxon (English) folklore. Elves and Dwarves have always been with England.

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>>164306916
Everyone knows what they meant, anon.

>>164306951
>Elves and Dwarves have always been with England.

elves are welsh mate

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Have any of you lot played with the Chaos Divided mod?

If so is it any good?

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>Start a new Franz campaign.
>Get 20% ward save item from taking Grunburg.
gg no re 2 ez

>>164306938
>The most original english word in fantasy is 'orc'
Tolkien derived it from roman god Orcus.

>>164306876
>BIKE&SHIT FOR NEXT TOTAL WAR!
>imploying ya needz umie gits ta roide a boik

Total War: Gorkamorka when, ladz? The contract with GW is set to last through 2021 anyway, why waste that time on 2000s hisfag shit?

>>164306606
Well on my empire campaign I'm pretty early in, I think it's like turn 15 or something and I'm moving to take Middenland (Whatever the faction with Boris is) but I'm finding I can generally win uphill battles if I have more xbow units then they do. It means on offence that they're always forced to charge you rather than the other way round.

Also if you're playing Franz, I always use the initial unit of handgunners you get to focus fire their generals. In combination with Franz himself it can mean a pretty early route for the enemy if their general dies 2 minutes in.

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>>164307195
Eadbutt dem 'isfags 'ard til they come 'round to our way of doin' tings, innit?

Is there any reason at all to bring taifali cavalry? They seem pointless

>>164307093
yes
pretty fun

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>Mfw the only total war campaigns I've finished have been a few in Med 2 , Macedon in Rome 2, and as every race in Warhammer, despite playing the series since Med 1 and only missing out on Napoleon

>>164307379
I don't get why they only have 2 ammunition

>>164307093
I wish you could make new models for the game and more importantly edit the campaign and battle maps. Of course then they would actually have to take time and put effort into any of their DLC.

>>164303656
kill me

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>he only worships one god

get out of here with that shit

>>164307134
nope, it's Saxon/old norse and means a strange, evil creature. The saxons possibly derived it from the Roman but it never meant a fantastical creature in Roman, only in Saxon. Tolkien made especial study of old english so no doubt he knew that.

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>>164307313

>>164307585
Ye, problem is with WH for me, the games get boring around turn 100.

I sort of want to go and play Atilla but i only have the blood DLC for it. I'm stuck in this position where I want something to play but nothing appeals to me

So far my experience with any of the Wood Elves factions has been a consistent

>Remember that Beastmen faction you thought you destroyed?
>You didn't destroy them
>And while you were busy trying to get amber, they appeared right next to the Oak of Ages
>It'll take them 1 turn to attack and raze it
>It'll take you two
>Also, none of the other Elf factions will even try to attack the Beastmen, despite being at war with them

How do I deal with expanding to get amber, a crap economy, useless elven allies, and a need to protect the Oak?

>>164308406
Don't upgrade the Oak

>>164308406
I can't play as the WE for the exact same reason, it's infuriating

>>164308490
I didn't upgrade the Oak. I need Amber before I can upgrade the Oak, but by the time I had the amber to upgrade the Oak, I had Beastmen ready to raze the Oak down because no other faction apparently wants to fight the Beastmen, despite being at war with them.

And this isn't the main Beastmen faction. This is like Jagged Horn or something, so the Wood Elves, who are also at war with Jagged Horn and have a full stack at home (and another full stack out in Bretonnia), could help defend the fucking Oak.

>>164303565
How are you not bored

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Late Qing Total War when

>>164307494
>Med 1: England
>Rome 1: Brutii, Sillykids, Gaul, Britain
>Med 2: England
>Empire: implying
>Napoopan: Italy Campaign
>Shogun 2: Satsuma, Chosokabe, Mori, Takeda, Satsuma, Choushu, Jozai
>Rome 2: Macedon
>Warhammer: working on empire right now

guess I just really like Shogun 2

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>>164309097
Never ever dumb gookposter

>>164309260
>天国一统

>not 天國一統

Fucking simplified Chinese

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/twg/, is it normal that i want to bang tutorial girl?

>>164308406
gc has a new "feature" so now no matter where the beastmen event happens, a second stack is also spawned in estalia if you are playing as welfs

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Are Olives the best resource in Attila?

>Give huge amounts of food
>Large bonus to commerce
>Only penalty is squalor

>>164303604
roll

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>>164309390
No it's wrong.
Milady Adviser has been my TW waifu for years.
Don't touch her!

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Franz, what have you been doing for nearly 40 turns?

>>164307090
>An elf (plural: elves) is a type of supernatural being in Germanic mythology and folklore.[1] Reconstructing the early concept of an elf depends almost entirely on texts in Old English or relating to Norse mythology.[2] Later evidence for elves appears in diverse sources such as medical texts, prayers, ballads, and folktales.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zgkySBTUIw
It's time

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>Gobbo Archers

FUN FACT: Did you know that, in the shade of the olive trees, they said Italy would never be conquered?

>>164309865
>negotiating with a tree

>>164309653
Sir, diplomatic nicities are all that protect you from a good horse whipping!

>>164310161
I did know that.
But did you know that in the land of pharaohs and kings, they said Egypt could never be humbled?

>>164309653
samefag

>play as Tanuhkids
>Eventualy get alliance with sassanids
>they join my war with the ERE
>they steal emesa from the jews and edesa from the romans
>they raze Aila, the port I used to ensure my hordes had food
>Their relation with the jews are worsening
Well guess they'll get destroyed

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>>164306938
>The English word elf is from the Old English word most often attested as ælf (whose plural would have been *ælfe). Although this word took a variety of forms in different Old English dialects, these converged on the form elf during the Middle English period.[5] During the Old English period, separate forms were used for female elves (such as ælfen, putatively from common Germanic *ɑlβ(i)innjō), but during the Middle English period the word elf came routinely to include female beings.[6]
>The main medieval Germanic cognates of elf are Old Norse alfr, plural alfar, and Old High German alp, plural alpî, elpî (alongside the feminine elbe).[7] These words must come from Common Germanic, the ancestor-language of English, German, and the Scandinavian languages: the Common Germanic forms must have been *ɑlβi-z and ɑlβɑ-z.[8]
>Germanic *ɑlβi-z~*ɑlβɑ-z is generally agreed to be cognate with the Latin albus ('(matt) white'), Old Irish ailbhín (‘flock’); Albanian elb (‘barley’); and Germanic words for ‘swan’ such as Modern Icelandic álpt. These all come from an Indo-European base *albh-, and seem to be connected by whiteness.
The changing of the word itself "elves" rather than the edition of a simple 's' "elfs" is the more Germanic way of doing things.

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>>164310207
Offer:
Military access - indefinite
Demand:
Naples&Sicily
Lombardy
Flandern
Cuba
Gibraltar
Sardinia
Adviserfu

What's the most difficult faction to play in WH?

>>164311081
savage orcs

>>164311081
Beastmen imo

>>164311202
LMAO DUDE just like encamp and wait for someone else to raze everything

>>164307585
>implying any mod work would be on the level of anything CA puts out

Modders are too lazy to even update mods after a few patches or actually learn to mod the map like S2 allowed, and here you are saying that the ones actually making content are the lazy ones

>>164311430
It's not that, it's the fact that whenever I have played as them, The Empire, The Elves and Brettonia all chase me across the map with full stack armies at the start of the game when my armies are dog shit. Last time they chased me all the way into the southern greenskin lands

>>164311081
Angrund is pretty rough, did my first go on VH before welfs and it was a scramble to keep my home province (by the skin of my teeth) while also gearing for K8P
I don't know if it'd actually be possible without the ghost heroes and I can't imagine the grudging I'd get if I had to deal with wood elves at the same time

>>164311081
Green cucks

>>164311847
Did the Elves backstab you in your campaign too?

2017 and warhammer STILL hasnt been cracked. ffs man.

>>164311956
Buy the game you stupid goy

>>164306442
It's historical realism that knights were retards who knew jack shit about strategy and believed charging into the face was the only right and honorable thing to do.
In 1410 at Grunwald king Jagiello had to tell the Polish army he attended to three masses before battle just to keep them from mindlessly charging into pit traps and the braced Hospitaller army. And he did that only because he came from less retarded Eastern Europe. He was one of the very few commanders who used strategy, hiding in woods etc.

anyone else here always turn off enemy agents?
they just arent fun to deal with at all

when the fuck are they going to tone down Welf aggressiveness?

>>164311998
i did, played all the vanilla factions, but this jewish company with their 300 dlcs wants more of my money and I want to play the dlcs

hope the chinks crack the game sometime soon

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Do any of you lot know as to why my faction unlocker mod won't work?

>>164311930
Played it before Wood elves came out, but my skarsnik playthrough has had them attack angrund to the point of forcing confederation with the main dwarfs (while leaving Skarsnik alone despite wiping out Durthu really early on)

>>164312206
Google creamapi to get all dlc

>>164312531
i see

>>164312461
Do you use anything that edits the startpos? Like the "Make Vlad the VC leader" mod?

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G O B L I N S

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ARE YOU A GOD?

>>164312878
No

>>164303856
roll

>>164313550
What faction unlock mod are you using specifically?

>>164303604
Make it good

>>164313073
Shit like this reminds me of why I prefer Khorne.

>>164313629
Hmm I can't remember it was that guy who does a lot of the faction revamp stuff taht adds new units and shit

>>164303604
>Still haven't got WE.

If I roll them I'll go buy them right now.

Why is leadership for greenskins so shit? I thought that they were mostly too stupid to retreat?

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Lads what should be my first course of action?

why the fuck isn't there an option to make the campaign map less detailed in TWW?

literally loading times out the arse for something that doesn't even fucking matter.

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>>164307093
Last campaign I played it didnt add any of the new units to Chaos warriors campaign. Norsca factions did tho.

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Second time I've ever had my ally reinforce, first was Franks helping me conquer england
>>164313718
>Not being fine with wearing cod pieces with the lads
NIGGA U GAY

>>164314026
burn/awaken norscan tribes until only one of the tribes you awakened is alive. After that start heading south - your norscan ally will repopulate the entirety of norsca and help with your invasion

>>164312461
You will get fucked by anything that touches startpos

>>164311589
Well I would actually start by overhauling the campaign map and rummage through books and wiki's to find out how many more named villages there are and where they're located so each fucking faction actually feels like one.

>>164314598
which out of the norscan factions is the best to keep?

>>164308776
Idk man, I download new maps sometimes. I also make up storys in my head and do the battles for it imagining it's part of a movie.
I'm probably a full blown noob though. All I know is which units work against other (Yari vs horses, Katana vs Yari [?]) but I basically have no tactics. I just put yari at the front, archers at the back and katana in between. Sometimes I charge with horses from behind.

I'm slowly getting bored now though, that's why I'm asking. I was thinking about buying Atila and finally play a campaign, is it good?

>>164314945
Not that guy, but Sarl have usually turned out pretty okay. Either Sarl or Aesling.

>>164314945
Sarl is good since they sit in the border between Kislev and Norsca. I use them as bait for doomstacks and their sweet loot. When I have enough growth I make a second army and load it full of Warriors to help them take Norsca.

>>164314026
razes the dwarfs

>>164314945

when you take the first one (don't remember name, the guys at the very start), don't do it from the first town, since it borders Kislev and they will come out and kill your new tribe instantly. Save that tribe for the 2nd take you take, in your pic its the one you've razed by the dwarf town.

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>some offering to be a puppet state

god damn it's like I'm seeing bigfoot right now

Something I really don't understand about TWW is why unit banners don't show through terrain/ trees.

It's not like they're actually obscured, it just means I have to constantly go on the fucking tactical map to see where all my units are because the unit banners just get covered up by trees.

Is there a mod that fixes this?

>-24 public order to slaves

Rome 2, how the fuck do I fix this? I have not taken slaves post battle ONCE. I kill and release everyone I beat. How is this even a thing?

Heheheheh fucking history fags. Warhammer is in the top 10 in steam sales this year. Fantasty is here to stay.

>>164315906
do eiit

What are the funniest factions in TWW according to you anons? I'm playing Vampire Cunts, and while I like having a lot of monsters and wizards that can duke it out with the best, it gets kind of tiring to have your only viable strategy be "charge with everything and spam heal while your fliers fuck their artillery".

When should i think about making a 2nd chaos horde?

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>>164317404
Also forgot pic. I mean, it works, but watching my entire army do a conga following the varghulf into the city and just making a big fucking ball of murder and slog it out isn't very stimulating.

>>164314161
SSD

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>>164315101
I rate Attila LEGIO COMITATENSES/10

>>164317404
Empire is pretty fun.


Skarsnik is up there too

>>164305406
yeah Wood elves kind of broke the campaign by being massive faggots. you really have to go at them right away. luckily the never actually defend their forest so just sneak around the backside and burn it all down. and don't let them re settle it.

>>164306067
One of the reasons I want a Victoria tw so bad.

look at those cannons with casemates. delicious.

>>164306586
God damn late victorian is the absolute best. Those aesthetics.

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>>164307494

Med 1: Danes, Egypt, England

Rome 1: Julii, Brutii, Franks

Med 2: Scots, HRE

Empire: Sweden

Napoleon: France

Shogun 2: Oda, Chosokabe, Shimazu, Aizu, Choshu, Satsuma, Tosa, Saga, Jozai

Rome 2: Rome (Julia)

Warhammer: Empire (Franz), VC (Mannlet), VC (Vlad), Greenskins (Grimgor), Bloody Hands, Dwarfs (Thorgrim), Beastmen (Khazrak), Beastmen (Morghur), Chaos (Kholek)

Looking back, I think Shogun 2 and Warhammer have been my favourites despite having tons of nostalgia from the others and Napoopan battles being fun as fuck.

>If you make a client state of someone, their client states become your client states

Share things you only recently discovered, /twg/.

>>164313718
I bet you kiss girls, you faggot

>>164315101
Play the campaign and enjoy asymetrical battles where you have to win against the odds.

the Campaign is great for roleplaying since it facilitates the stories that lead up to the battle. Especially if you don't min/max your campaign skills and just role play your general.

>>164307494
>tfw I started with Shogun 1

>>164315101
Also don't play the atilla campaign if you don't know how campaign gameplay works. You'll get wrecked. Atilla has one of the more complex campaigns of any total war. Try shogun 2 campaign first and then go on to atilla.

So I'm gonna be starting up a Crooked Moon campaign again soon and I wanted to know if I should just rush Eight Peaks and forget about my starting settlements or if I should consolidate and then go for Eight Peaks?

>>164318679

Not recently discovered but handy nonetheless: Freeing norscan tribes (as Chaos obviously) doesn't make them your client states, you'll have to declare war on them immediately afterwards and force them to subjugate.

If you don't do this, they will go off doing their own diplomacy and fuck you in the ass sooner rather than later.

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>half a unit is allowed to slip through my line unshattered

>>164319068

Consolidate, the Crooked Moon clan doesn't really get any benefits from owning Eight Peaks, wheras Clan Angrund gets a massive reduction in upkeep (they start with it being higher) and various other factionwide boons.

>>164315303
I think Sarl have died in mine, all that exists is skaeling and Varg

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>tfw your client states are at war with each other

guess its not just the chaos campaign then

>>164306549

>Transmutation on his main line.

Transmutation does damage to one model per unit at a time. It's only ever worth its cost of you can hit more than one single model unit at a time with it.

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>play a losing battle
>win by the skin of my teeth
>they all flee
>their extra general who's still alive is surround by all my dudes
>he's still getting away anyway
>hundreds of them swarming him and they can barely dent his armour (shit like this makes me want to play historical)
>send Franz in on his flying pony
>starts smacking the general
>my guys start taking damage
>wut
>Franz kills my other general who was nearly dead before killing the enemy general
well... who knew your generals attacks could hurt your own dudes.

On a side note, does anyone know of any mods that make general bloat not so silly in this game? I get that it's warhammer but even for the settings its well overblown.

pic related, many were kill today

Whats a good defensive faction to play as in Attila?

>Playing VC the boring way by massing grave guard
>not massing zombies with grave guard support
Turning VC into Chaos warriors but skellys is boring tbqh lads

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I've been trying to lose this city since I captured it but the Carthage spy outside keeps killing the rebel army by poisoning them.

>>164303856
Rollin'

Do I play DME, Rome 2 or Attila lads?

Played a lot of DME lately, so leaning towards R2 and Attila.

>>164320431
>arse

lel

>>164313718
Khorne is pretty dull and chaos as a faction is extremely tedious. None of the story, characters matter with chaos and there's no intrigue. Chaos has nothing to lose or gain and it's just slight variations on plagues, massacres, weird sex creatures and twisting plots. Probably why GW made Archaon so that chaos had a character you could give a shit about.

>>164317404
Greenskins can be fun for doing stupid builds or themed builds like a monster army or an all squig stack etc.

>be me
>check replays, looking for good screenshots
>check old Beastmen v Counts battle, remember how amazing it was, how a small beastmen army held off two VC stacks (Vlad and blood knights included) thanks to my Shaman and ruby rings of ruin
>Manticore dies without doibng anything because >Unbinding (replay was from before Wood Elves, in case it was not obvious)
>All my units destroyed soon after lines touch
>My shaman spergs around
>Beastlord dies
>Decisive defeat!

Epic, simply Epic

>>164320642

What's DME?

>>164320685
>why GW made Archaon so that chaos had a character you could give a shit about.
>Nihilism incarnate

>>164320858
Darthmod Empire, does a good job of making Empire not shit tbqh

>>164320931
Ah, cool. I have empire but haven't played it yet. Always heard it was shit, but I might be confusing that with Napoleon.

>>164321002
Empire and Napoleon are two halves of a great game.

>>164321002
I've not played Napoleon but I have to say I do really like Empire.

I've never played it vanilla as I've always heard not to waste to my time doing so, only to use DME.

>>164320313
>either roman empire due to smelly barbars
>himyar or axum due to trade routes and the dam, although it's hard to get non-sassanid enemies to attack you
>celts defending a unified britain
>venedians in their comfy farming empire

>>164320903
That's why he's interesting, he has an ambition outside of the chaos pantheon and exploits chaos to fulfil it. It's a character with a purpose which is what TT needs since you make a context up to justify the battles i.e wiping out the empire. For chaos it's just 'spread disease' or 'skulls for the skull throne' etc. Greenskins are pretty dull as well but at least skarsnik and azhag have eight peaks and the crown of dominion as motivations.

Who is the edgiest legendary lord?

>>164321164
I've played DME and enjoyed it. But I've also played vanilla empire and enjoyed it.

I find DME still has flaws present and empire does naval battles the best.

>>164322086

Archaon, of course.

>>164321292
Thank you!

>>164322090
I played DME with Bran Mac Born and it makes for a pretty comfy but very challenging experience.

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Warhammer infuriates me so much

> Stupid chaos, varg and skaeling calling me "asinine mortal" and "your demise is certain" 200 hundred times a day makes me ultra furious
> Retarded chaos, varg shitskins (shitsking in the north? wtf), and sgaylings running around like faggots
> Battle is stupid marauders and faggy dogs in the flanks waiting to fuck my immobile empire formation if my steam tanks are not able to take them out on time they meet my line
> Warhammer lore is so freaking stupid. I bought the game expecting a warhammer 40k but this game is really all about Rome 1 barbarian invasion where stupid nomad people fucks up battles and campaign map where you chase like a faggy asshole 200 turns while they raze and pillage your cities
> There's more: How come varg and sgayling are all jocks with huge thighs and muscles while the normal humans are skinny and weak? Are the women in the north fat spartans that gave birth to huge ass babies? Or they made a pact with chaos so they could be roided up without going to the gym?


I'm winning with the empire while raizing all of these asshole nomad shitskin fags and going to desinstall this piece of shit game full of chasing and retarded corruption everywhere making you camp every ONE turn so you are dont lose your whole stack.

Going to buy shogun 2 and be happy with a decent game.

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>yfw you give the filthy kuffar redskins your BBC (Big Brown Cock)

>>164322402
>Send a couple of armies out west over the ocean
>All their generals die in storms
>take tlaxcala
>other army revolts and joins the aztecs

yes this is fine.

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>>164320396
>turning vampire cunts to chaos
>implying vc have motherfucking CHOSEN
baka desu senpai

>>164306738
Because he knows when to be sneaky and he knows when to be stabby

I honestly feel that the Chaos Campaign should be more like the Mongol's campaign in the first Shogun, as opposed to what we got.

Running around unable to stack is not fun.

>>164323131
Giving Chaos all the quality of life shit Beastmen have is a good start.

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Remove barbar
Reinstate the kingdom of the african KANGS

That full cost forced march mod kinda turns force march into a useless thing. I was just comparing it to my regular march, and now my regular march can go further than forced march.

>>164324272
the idea is that it takes effect the turn after you set them into march stance

Empire has the best province, research and agent system of all games. Too bad every battle is the same.

>>164324272
Personally, I use the one that disables march if the army has acted in the turn (like how the Underway works)

>>164303604
roll

/r/ing roll charts of the older tw games

>>164324616
Which one is that?

How does one beat the bird bloke in warhammer?

If I decide to be a good cuck and pay 40e for TW:W, is there a way to at least pirate the DLCs? if not, are they at least in the campaign mode but not playable?

I don't mind not playing the DLC races but I'd at lest like to be able to fight them.

>>164325076
Every battle I faced him, he was on the verge of death from the trip

Since he's not a LL, you can also assasinate him

Also, check his resists, he has some pretty insane projectile resistance IIRC

>>164325167
You can't pirate the DLC, but all of them are featured in the grand campaign (except, maybe, the Free DLCs that you have to manually download)

>>164325167
Yeah, all the DLC is put into the game either way, you just need to pay to unlock your use of it.

And I have not heard much about piracy for the game. I don't think it's been cracked yet? Not sure though.

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What was that one battle /twg/? The one you'll never forget? The one where you beat the odds and went full pic related?

>>164325560
>>164325426
Ok. As long as I can play against them I can get behind that. and I just read about creamAPI and all that shit, so if I can put my hand on the DLC files I can even play em. Thanks bros.

>>164314161
I recently got a SSD, load times went from literal minutes to just 10 or so seconds. I can't recommend it enough.

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Hmm

Fight or see if the autoresolve goes my way?

>>164325948
I dont even wanna know what mods are going on here

>>164326104
qeq

It's chaos divided

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>>164325841
Probably this one
I've had others in older games, most memorably as scotland in Med 2 defending against endless fucking hordes of jihads whilst holding Jersulaem.
I lost it in the end, but at least I took 10 jihadists down for each scottish crusader

>>164325948
Fight. Fun.

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What a nice man.

>>164326197
Lucky you, my defence of jerusalem was anticlimatic as fuck. I was playing as the spanish and had hit the pike&shot phase for the first time, I relied on pikes to hold the streets. They got butchered when they switched to sidearms and everything was lost.

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>>164325841
I don't know if I can ever top this

>>164324483
it's still a long way off ideal. Empire should have provincial offices and those characters should get a bonus to recruitment in their province whilst granting an income and public order bonus. It's what war weariness should have been, a system where your provinces suffer the longer their chief is away fighting.

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>>164325841

my first bridge battle since R1, I ended up losing. They had far more skirmishers and swordsmen where I had mostly spears with a few hastati. It was close, I held the bridge, lots of good general ability use but I didn't have the men. Sent my out of ammo velites and 2 hastati to flank the other side of the bridge but it wasn't enough. Celts OP.

So I've never played a Total war game. I figured I'd pick one up to give it a shot. If I only plan on getting one for the time being which should I prioritize? Medieval and Rome sound the most appealing to me setting wise but I'm not opposed to the others if they're just better games.

Literary just about to take Middenhiem and some literary-who empire faction sweeps in to take their capital with a bigger army than me.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>164303604
roll

Everyone should download Radious Total War now! Its amazing!

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>>164325841
Empire fight against Archaon, last time I had an Empire campaign going. It was a full doomstack with Franz backed up by one of the Empire Captain guys (the niggas with the beards) who fielded a ton of Flagellents and Handgunners. My main line holds them off and starts to break when the reinforcements arrive and beat back the cavalry and the remaining infantry. While my cav runs off to kill the runners, Franz and my other Lord and my Light wizard take on Archaon and win the battle.

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Can they make a total war game that spans a great deal of time?

Like, starts at 500 AD and then ends up 1800 AD or something, giving you many different units as history progresses.

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Wish me luck guys

>>164325841
Not the greatest of all of them but I remember this one because the AI made it all click into place somehow

>M2 Thera mod
>playing as faust, invading sylvania
>one of my stacks recently conquered a city, another stack close by to support
>many enemy stacks surround the city
>supporting stack general gets assassinated and his stack forced to retreat by enemy pressure
>city defenders have to hold the city alone
>it all comes down to a long battle through the muddy streets as both me and the enemy fight to the last man

I managed to hold but goddamn was it tense. Only the 2HP bodyguards made it possible.

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Well fuck my ass. I just ignored the peace treaty from the chuckle fucks because at the time they were at war with factions I wanted to confederate with and they marched two armies all the way around the god damn mountains just to attack me through blackfire pass. That's some dedication.

Wait so the blood elves will be in my Grand Campaign without me buying them??

How do you think they'll balance out all the races once their trilogy of TW:w is complete? Will it be shit?

LIZARDMEN WHEN

>>164327003
You might not win, but you can give them a really good trashing so they won't become a threat to your stuff for a while. Buy you some time to create a new army.

>>164327238
TOMB

>>164326754
The problem with that is that players will either finish campaigns too quickly to have much point in having a large timespan, or the time passes too quickly for each era to really play out before units become obsolete.

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>>164326754
We have that, anon, but it's not satisfying

>>164326623

Best games, imo:

Attila - hard to get into, has great battles and sieges, good campaign mechanics but can become tedious fast and the period is kind of boring, imo (Fall of the Western Roman Empire, rise of barbarian kingdoms and invasion of the Huns). Suffers from most factions being very similar and the different ones being harder to play than the same-y ones.

Attila - Age of Charlemagne - The above, but with way fewer units per faction, set around 900 AD with the rise of modern countries like England, France, etc. Excellent DLC.

Rome 2 (Extremely bad release, has lingered for 3 years. Simple politics and empire management, but fun factions and battles. A good game now.)

Medieval 2 (dated, uses old TW mechanics and controls) More complex than modern TW. Set in a more interesting and diverse time period than Rome and Attila. Fun sieges and combat. Hard to get into if you're used to modern TW.

Rome 1 (see Med2). Also has good politics and an interesting spin on the Roman civil war.

Shogun 2 - Excellent campaign, fun battles, awful sieges. Faction diversity is borderline non existent.


Warhammer - very simple to learn, but every faction is vastly different from each other. Next to no politics, simple economy and empire management, but extremely fun battles. First non historical Total War that has fantasy mechanics, magic, guns, swords, demons, orcs, midgets, vampires, skellingtons, elves and other monstrosities. Best Total War for a new player.

Have not played Napoleon and Empire so I cannot comment on those.

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>>164327402

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>>164325841
The Archaon quest battles on legendary felt incredibly tense, and there was just not time to spare rallying units and cycle charging. Pic related was pretty hairy and before the hotfix.

>>164327559
>>164327402
How many provinces are there in this mod actually?
Like does France consist of one province, several rally tiny ones or is the map just so huge that there's enough space for everything?

>>164327553
>warhammer
>best for new player

No way, this game fucks you in the ass way too much for a new player. I've been playing since Rome 1 and I still can't finish a campaign in Warhammer after over 20 hours.

Shogun 2 is best for new player imo.

>>164327761
I recommended it because of its simplicity. There really isn't much to learn for a new player, I think. I haven't played much since Welfs came out, however, but the game was pretty easy at release with just the base factions.

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>>164325076
You could always try magic missle attacks...

>>164327761
>Shogun 2 is best for new player imo.


>tfw Shogun 2 was the first total war game I actually got a game over screen
>Turn 2 or 3 as the Oda

I wasn't used to that kind of starting position at all.

>>164327238
My guess would be poorly. I do feel they're probably waiting on everything to be in to balance things properly. But even then it will probably need a few mods to make things enjoyable.

It should be fine but CA can be pretty inconstant at balance.

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>>164327760
Since there are different maps they stretch everything differently. Europe tends to looks very pancakish. That's the sad reality about engine limitations.

>>164327238
>How do you think they'll balance out all the races once their trilogy of TW:w is complete?

It worked on TT to a degree, it'll work in TW. Although with that being said it wont be easy. For example:

Skaven are fucking absurdly well rounded, think Empire but instead of jack of all trades master of none, its jack of all trades master of all. Good infantry, good range, good artillery, good war machines, good monsters, good everything. Being able to replicate this in game will be a challenge. Skaven were usually power ranked #1 in 8E.

Ogres are an army of monstrous infantry with low model counts. How they'll make this work without either fucking Ogre players or turning them into obscenely overpowered brutes will be interesting.

Especially given the power creep we've seen with new content this will be a challenge to keep older stuff inline with newer stuff.

>>164327553
>More complex than modern TW

I don't really see how you could state that, there's much more stuff to keep an eye on in R2/attila and most importantly, they're more important to pay attention to since building the wrong stuff will actively fuck you over rather than just slowing you down for some turns.

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Waheyyyyyy

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>>164328053
...if Tzeentch wasn't involved

>>164328175
One way to balance skaven is to just make their non-shit units proportionally a bit more expensive to make up for how much crap they can potentially bring.
Also, they could make up some rules for ogre units to ignore some of the traditional anti-large counters if it's a problem for them. Like, an ability that negates charge defense.

>>164327402
What mod is that?

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>>164328148
Eras
no faction limit, no settlement limits ahh this could have been so sexy

>>164327761
>Shogun 2 is best for new player

I get why you're saying this but seriously that early game is a fucking mess on anything higher than easy for a new player.

>>164328432
what's wrong with your exalted champion
is he feeling okay

>>164303604
rol

>>164328819
kek it's part of chaos divided, it's some kind of Bloodthirster.

>>164328708
Is it any good? This is the first i've heard of it

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>CA silent on question of more paid DLC for TWW1.
>Grace says Grom has no set release, other than "early in the year".
>Darren confirms "Old Friend" is a Lord.

I hope they have at least 2 more lord packs in them. I want my Marius in Averland.

>>164327316
Nope, got absolutely trashed and only managed to get 447 kills because their leadership is so trash.

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>empire campaign
>dwarves destroyed a while ago
>damn that's good news hate those buggers
>chaos coming in from the north, vampire counts from the east and now the green madman just besieged my settlement in wissenland with 3 stacks
jesus christ i never missed the dwarves so much

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>>164329194
Unit variety is small for my taste, but there is territorial recruitment, which is not always the best thing
Many of the medieval campaigns are reharshed and differ only by 1 or 2 factions
Lack of details for the descriptions, no scripted events, very easy victory conditions
also, some really are angry about m2 mechanics like slow response and sieges, so if you are not a fan it's not going to get better with this mod.
The positives
You can play the 4 khaganates
There is one african campaign, the whole map so you can conquer Australia
The AI is aggressive

>>164329609
into the book you go manling

>>164328175
>jack of all trades master of all

You've completely misrepresented Skaven in TT. Firstly even if we assume rng isn't going to factor into TWW (which already challenges your assumption since skaven are about being very successful but then robbing themselves of that advantage with unreliability and potential self-harm) Skaven still aren't jack of all trades and certainly not masters. They aren't even well-rounded.

>can't respond to cavalry AT ALL
>only have specialist skirmishers
>you can rob them of decent leadership with flanking, which they often can't prevent.
>ALL their units are extremely vulnerable to ranged fire.
>No reliable AP outside of artillery and specialists

>>164329609

>Dwarfs losing the Badlandsbowl

What kind of fucking meme is this?

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>>164329374

Hey anon, do you mind explaining where you found all that info from? Some twitch stream, is there a link, if you could be so kind?

Also, is that a new image from the devs or something fanmade as a prediction?

>>164329374

I think the "old friend" is Krell

>>164329374
Man, it would be great to be able to play as counties other than Kikeland.

Okay gaise i just bought total war attila and rome 2 emperor with a shitload of dlcs

I fucked up? I was planning playing the shit of the singleplayer with mods and also looking at the mp for some quick fun

>inb4 buyer remorse

>>164330432
>I fucked up?
Refund Rome 2 and all DLCs, play Attila.

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Bretonnia confirmed free for everyone in Feb

No $20 race pack

>>164329374
Is the shit in that pic confirmed or just rumors

>>164330432

what is the problem here family

>>164330716
We knew that right from the start, are you guys all new.

>>164329374
darren a shit
dogbert should take his job

>>164330883

no we didn't, I've been browsing the general for months and never seen it confirmed

>>164330804

I really wanted to ask if the mp is dead in rome 2 or attila. I also just wanted to share my thoughts

>>164330950
They devs said right before release that Brets won't be finished by release and will be the free race later on.

>>164330950
You haven't been browsing it very closely, then. We knew Bretonnia was going to be FLC and dropping in February before the K&W pack released.

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To the guy that made the Building the Empire mod, how do I fix this?

>>164330950
Bretonnia was confirmed for free even before Warhammer was released, we just never had a date for when Bretonnia was going to be added in.

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>>164330716
you're fucking retarded
We've known this for ages

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What is he thinking about?

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>>164331483
>>164331386
>>164331264
>>164330972

baited for these exact replies

lol just effortless

>>164331606
simply ebin

>>164331606
you fooled us all with your effortless display of the blundering retard. well done!

>>164331554
Thinking about how he could be visiting his brother in Bögenhafen and fucking Reiklander whores instead of being murdered my Norscan shits.

Oh god I just faced WEs for the first time as beastmen, what the absolute fuck is this.

>>164331713
>>164331791

don't get mad now

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>>164331554
What is he thinking about?

>>164331864
I complimented you on your efforts, how am I mad?

Any tips for the welf mini campaign?

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Elves that aren't led by a beastman when?

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>>164331606
This quote will never be irrelevant will it?

>>164329609
>not invading Sylvania the moment you get borders with them?
>you are a disappointment to Sigmar

>>164331990
Wait for HE or DE.

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>>164331998

Is that where you come in or something?

>>164331554
https://youtu.be/U-EQJA8Ahac
Empire edition when?

>>164331606
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little wazzock? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my dawi in the slayers, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on black crag, and I have over 300 orc hides. I am trained in underway warfare and I’m the top quarreler in the entire dwarf hold! You are nothing to me but just another dirty humie. I will wipe you the fuck out with mechanical dwarfen precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this continent, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the message ravens? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of thanes across the Empire and your horde is being traced right now so you better prepare for the slayers, maggot. The slayers that wipe out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, humie. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways using the underway, and that’s just with my bare hands and a few dwarf beers. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the dawi and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable goblin ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what holy dwarfen retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit dwarfen fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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These battles take some time man

>>164317404
I literally play vampire counts for vampire chan

Is there any reason to fight wood elves on the battlefield? Their units are way too damn op, auto-resolve is always a better choice.

>>164332645
Well developed Dwarf armys with an engineer can fuck them up big time since their units have assloads of armor and shields and the buffed ranged units can take on the Elven ones.

>>164332814
I'm empire sieging some trees so honestly, it's not doable. Their rangers are the worst by far.

>>164332883
>>164332814
>>164332645
>>164332584
>>164332532
>>164332274
>>164332138

god damn shut the fuck up you pathetic retards

it's not that hard at all stop complaining

>>164332951
samefag

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>>164332645
Fun

>Play Empire.
>Make two provinces to unlock every unit.
>Everything else.
>EVERYTHING.
>Is just money and garrisons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5ro1nWsPU

>>164325841

My Date game in Shogun 2, semi-early on went to war with a clan and took an undefended lvl 3 castle, only like 3 turns later to see the enemy clan roll up with like 5 full stack armies to my 1. Rather than lose everything, I had my aging daimyo's son take most of the army and retreat back north to a stronger castle and recruit units, while my daimyo, already kind of an older fellow would stay back and hold the incoming armies off as best he could with a skeleton crew.

Most intense battle I ever fought, and in the end literally came down to my last remaining unit being my daimyo unit and retainers fighting right on the flag capture point outside the tenshu. He survived down to him and like 3 other men, when the remaining enemy routed.

>>164332951
How am I complaining? >>164332584
I've beaten Emp/Chaos/Welfs on Legendary, VH, VH respectively

>>164332951
Don't make me find another copypasta.

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FUCKING UMGI
GET OUT OF MY BADLANDS
GET OOOOOOOOOOOUT

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>>164333852
>[REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE's in Khazalid]

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>>164334037
You've got me in the mood for some splat pics.

Everyone post splats

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>>164334165
GOBSHITS IN MY FUCKING KARAK