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>>164292683
Thats because the MKTW projectile guy make mortar effectiveness like a dice roll.
The shells can either burst in the air far away prematurely, airburst close enough for the shrapnels injuring, explode right when it supposed to be, or just bury itself to the ground to explode many seconds later.
>>164303212
About to raise another Empire army with Balthazar Gelt as the general. Are there any schools of magic that goes well with lore of metal?I know he kind of sucks but i want him for the voice lines.
>150 hours in Shogun 2
>never touched anything but custom battles
Am I missing something out?
>>164303212
Rollan!
>>164303565
nah the campaign is shit
>>164303173
because that is incorrect to the English language
its not wolfs, shelfs, elfs and the like.
it's wolves, shelves, elves, and dwarves
it's a major part of what makes English a germanic language.
>>164303565
yeah, the campaign
>>164303607
t. butthurt realm divide casual
>>164303565
>Am I missing something out?
Yes, the campaign is damn good
>>164303656
anyone got something like this for Shogun?
>>164303821
Empire 2 when?
>>164303869
Pike&Shot or Victoriaor WWIwill be the next historical title
>>164303639
it isn't incorrect at all in fact it is established that 'elfs' and 'dwarfs' is the correct translation of german 'Elfen' and 'Zwerge'. Pretty much Tolkien alone decided on Dwarves and Elves probably to actually set his moreh umn portrayals apart from the stunted monsters of German folklore.
>>164303495
Bright and Light wizards are busted as fuck imo, especially Light wizards. I won so many battles off my Light wizard's back it's almost hilarious.
>>164303856
Will roll I guess
>>164303971
>Pike&Shot
Remove Protestant filth!
>>164303971
>Pike&Shot
Terrible meme.
is tw: warhammer a good way to get into this genre?
>>164303473
I found out, it's pretty cool
>>164304467
It's definitely the best way tohave fun playing a game. It's the most fun I've had playing a game in a long time, that's for sure.
>>164304467
It's about as good as most of the others
Rome 1, Med 2, Shogun 2 are all good places to start from depending on what time period/location you prefer.
>>164303604
Kill me, Pete.
Subscribe now. Help my broke ass out by smashing that motherfuckign rate button.
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>>164303639
>its not wolfs, shelfs, elfs and the like.
>it's a major part of what makes English a germanic language.
The plural of the German word Wolf is Wölfe, so I'd say that's just an English quirk.
>>164303995
The words elf and dwarf existed in the English language for centuries before Tolkien, who drew from German mythology just as much as from any other among those he considered to belong to the 'good guys' (Germanic and Finno-Ugric, basically)
>want to do a bloody handz playthough
>get bored of it at turn 10 or so and alt+f4
Everytime
I need some new content CA
>>164305053
>tfw playing shogun 2 for the gorillionth time
there's just something about this game
>>164303604
lets see
>three separate campaigns with empire and I couldn't survive past turn 100 because of the wood elves
>start a dwarf campaign
>fifty turns in and I'm getting my shit pushed in by greenskins
>38 hours into WTW and I haven't completed a fucking campaign
Should I just kill myself? How do I even get good at this? Should I just stop trying to play empire and just play one of the blatantly overpowered factions?
Chaos drops in at turn 100 with rank five armies like the mongols of old medieval. Should I even bother with the campaign at all? Because fuck that entire noise. I don't even know how I'm going to prepare for that.
>>164305275
Nope, you're just a weaboo.
>>164305440
I like the setting, I like the gameplay, I like the graphics.
I just wish we had a new gunpowder total war again, FOTS is just so fun
When?
>>164305406
Go to their fucking gay forest and burn it. Actually wood elves made empire campaign easy as fuck since all their outposts is unwalled and have almost no garrison.
>>164305406
I didn't finish my first campaign until around 90 hours. I quit at least four Empire campaigns, one Greenskin and a Dwarf campaign before Durthu and I rebuilt the Oak of Ages.
The only way to gitgud is to play more. I'm one of those people who gets pissed when I'm not doing well and I train like crazy to gitgud. The only time you really ought to stop playing is when the game is no longer fun.
Btw, Empire IS good. Just keeping trying m8, you got this
>>164305521
Yes, I like gunpowder gameplay, but this setting is killing me. Goddamn asians.
>>164302975
there are peopleplebsin this thread right now who actually want a total war that has a completely flat map with no terrain.
i miss these games
Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.
Guys, how do I get past not ever wanting to lose units? It means every single game I play is taking a couple regions and then shitting out doomstacks against the AI's garbage tier 1 units and steamrolling every battle.
>mfw it's stabby time
>tfw no TW pre-dreadnought battles
>>164305912
Best post.
>>164305521
>>164305440
Not a weeb and I agree that a part of Shogun's draw was its alien setting that got lost with subsequent titles featuring the same old knights and centurions as any other historical game, and that it was only with Warhammer that the series recaptured the magic of commanding colourful exotic armies in cool places.
>>164306067
just wait for the next historical
>>164306067
>>164306307
You'll be grayer than Grombrindal before that happens, o hisfags.
>>164306067
>dreadnought total war never
>>164305406
>38 hours into WTW and I haven't completed a fucking campaign
>actually finishing campaigns
I'm nearly 200 hours in and still haven't finished a campaign.
In my last dwarf campaign I had Ironbreakers by turn 40 and had 2 settlements left to take in the badlands until it was entirely mine by turn 80 (which was after a long detour to completely wipe out Wiessenland and VC). At that point you've basically won the campaign so there isn't much point finishing. I think Empire were fucking up Chaos as well.
Are you some kind of auto-resolve plebian?
I'm playing on very hard and finding that I need to win some pretty tricky battles early on if I want to secure any sort of advantage in the long term.
>>164303604
Okay, time for a new campaign I suppose
Except Grombrindal, I don't have him
>>164305912
Thanks, but no thanks.
>>164303495
use him only for dropping transmutation on your enemy's main line - If you want to use the hounds look for a fuckhuge blob or put a hero into melee with enemy cavalry. The hounds can actually do pretty decently vs cav due to the wacky knockback mechanics ingame
>>164305053
I have the same feel, i get bored af playing WH, I've installed that chaos mod tho that gives you the bloodthirster and shit but now it just depends on whether i can be arsed to turn the game on kek
>>164305741
I think that's my next idea. Fuck uniting the empire until I can burn the fucking forest. I'll start with Volkmar with some flagellants and take Sylvania, and when I get Charles French, I'll burn the knife ears.
>>164305810
I'm having fun despite always getting into a bad spot with my campaigns. So that's a good sign. And it leaves me room to git gud.
>>164306424
I'm not that good. I play most of my battles, except for when it's worthless to even try. My empire campaigns utterly failed to retake Wissenland. Nuln is the fucking toughest nut to crack. So many cannons and guns that you need to either assault it with two doom stacks or wait it out until the defenders starve. And that's a crock of shit.
>>164306434
S K A R S N I K
K
A
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S
N
I
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
>>164306546
what did he mean by that
>>164306645
Why is Skarsnik so smart? How is he able to outsmart his enemies so often?
>>164305440
nah Shogun 2 has the best campaign by far. Best map as well.
When nearly every settlement is in a defensible mountainous position a lot of the annoying shit you find in TW games tends to disappear.
That said, I always get frustrated with it for a really simple reason
>The enemy has constant line of sight into castles during sieges
literally makes no sense. If they have more archers then you when attacking your caste it turn what's mean to be a defensible position into a deathtrap.
>>164303995
And Tolkien was a linguist at Oxford.
>>164305051
German is not the same as Germanic.
German is merely one of many West Germanic ethnicities/languages that has had it's own changes and evolution from Proto-Germanic.
As I understand it, things like Gold to Gold, Old to Elder, Mouse to Mice, and Dwarf to Dwarves are very Germanic aspects to language.
BIKE&SHIT FOR NEXT HISTORICAL TOTAL WAR!
All of Europe, North and South America, North Africa, western Asia, maybe even as far as China and Japan.
CA DO IT!
>>164306667
I just woke up and thought it was a titan
>Thought to be of Thracian or Scythian descent, and believing themselves descended from Herakles himself, the warlike Agathyrsi, also known as Acatziri, lived on a plain that is now part of modern-day Romania from around 700BC. They were famous for their unusual, relaxed attitude to breeding - where everyone belonged to everyone else
What did CA mean by this?
>>164305051
my argument was that the plural 'Elves' and 'Dwarves' did not exist in the english language, not 'elf' and 'dwarf'. The most original english word in fantasy is 'orc' which is actually closer to nordic languages but fairly unique to anglo-saxon english.
>>164303995
You know English folklore is Germanic right? Tolkien didn't steal from Germany, he just used Anglo-Saxon (English) folklore. Elves and Dwarves have always been with England.
>>164306916
Everyone knows what they meant, anon.
>>164306951
>Elves and Dwarves have always been with England.
elves are welsh mate
Have any of you lot played with the Chaos Divided mod?
If so is it any good?
>Start a new Franz campaign.
>Get 20% ward save item from taking Grunburg.
gg no re 2 ez
>>164306938
>The most original english word in fantasy is 'orc'
Tolkien derived it from roman god Orcus.
>>164306876
>BIKE&SHIT FOR NEXT TOTAL WAR!
>imploying ya needz umie gits ta roide a boik
Total War: Gorkamorka when, ladz? The contract with GW is set to last through 2021 anyway, why waste that time on 2000s hisfag shit?
>>164306606
Well on my empire campaign I'm pretty early in, I think it's like turn 15 or something and I'm moving to take Middenland (Whatever the faction with Boris is) but I'm finding I can generally win uphill battles if I have more xbow units then they do. It means on offence that they're always forced to charge you rather than the other way round.
Also if you're playing Franz, I always use the initial unit of handgunners you get to focus fire their generals. In combination with Franz himself it can mean a pretty early route for the enemy if their general dies 2 minutes in.
>>164307195
Eadbutt dem 'isfags 'ard til they come 'round to our way of doin' tings, innit?
Is there any reason at all to bring taifali cavalry? They seem pointless
>>164307093
yes
pretty fun
>Mfw the only total war campaigns I've finished have been a few in Med 2 , Macedon in Rome 2, and as every race in Warhammer, despite playing the series since Med 1 and only missing out on Napoleon
>>164307379
I don't get why they only have 2 ammunition
>>164307093
I wish you could make new models for the game and more importantly edit the campaign and battle maps. Of course then they would actually have to take time and put effort into any of their DLC.
>>164303656
kill me
>he only worships one god
get out of here with that shit
>>164307134
nope, it's Saxon/old norse and means a strange, evil creature. The saxons possibly derived it from the Roman but it never meant a fantastical creature in Roman, only in Saxon. Tolkien made especial study of old english so no doubt he knew that.
>>164307313
>>164307585
Ye, problem is with WH for me, the games get boring around turn 100.
I sort of want to go and play Atilla but i only have the blood DLC for it. I'm stuck in this position where I want something to play but nothing appeals to me
So far my experience with any of the Wood Elves factions has been a consistent
>Remember that Beastmen faction you thought you destroyed?
>You didn't destroy them
>And while you were busy trying to get amber, they appeared right next to the Oak of Ages
>It'll take them 1 turn to attack and raze it
>It'll take you two
>Also, none of the other Elf factions will even try to attack the Beastmen, despite being at war with them
How do I deal with expanding to get amber, a crap economy, useless elven allies, and a need to protect the Oak?
>>164308406
Don't upgrade the Oak
>>164308406
I can't play as the WE for the exact same reason, it's infuriating
>>164308490
I didn't upgrade the Oak. I need Amber before I can upgrade the Oak, but by the time I had the amber to upgrade the Oak, I had Beastmen ready to raze the Oak down because no other faction apparently wants to fight the Beastmen, despite being at war with them.
And this isn't the main Beastmen faction. This is like Jagged Horn or something, so the Wood Elves, who are also at war with Jagged Horn and have a full stack at home (and another full stack out in Bretonnia), could help defend the fucking Oak.
>>164303565
How are you not bored
Late Qing Total War when
>>164307494
>Med 1: England
>Rome 1: Brutii, Sillykids, Gaul, Britain
>Med 2: England
>Empire: implying
>Napoopan: Italy Campaign
>Shogun 2: Satsuma, Chosokabe, Mori, Takeda, Satsuma, Choushu, Jozai
>Rome 2: Macedon
>Warhammer: working on empire right now
guess I just really like Shogun 2
>>164309097
Never ever dumb gookposter
>>164309260
>天国一统
>not 天國一統
Fucking simplified Chinese
/twg/, is it normal that i want to bang tutorial girl?
>>164308406
gc has a new "feature" so now no matter where the beastmen event happens, a second stack is also spawned in estalia if you are playing as welfs
Are Olives the best resource in Attila?
>Give huge amounts of food
>Large bonus to commerce
>Only penalty is squalor
>>164303604
roll
>>164309390
No it's wrong.
Milady Adviser has been my TW waifu for years.
Don't touch her!
Franz, what have you been doing for nearly 40 turns?
>>164307090
>An elf (plural: elves) is a type of supernatural being in Germanic mythology and folklore.[1] Reconstructing the early concept of an elf depends almost entirely on texts in Old English or relating to Norse mythology.[2] Later evidence for elves appears in diverse sources such as medical texts, prayers, ballads, and folktales.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zgkySBTUIw
It's time
>Gobbo Archers
FUN FACT: Did you know that, in the shade of the olive trees, they said Italy would never be conquered?
>>164309865
>negotiating with a tree
>>164309653
Sir, diplomatic nicities are all that protect you from a good horse whipping!
>>164310161
I did know that.
But did you know that in the land of pharaohs and kings, they said Egypt could never be humbled?
>>164309653
samefag
>play as Tanuhkids
>Eventualy get alliance with sassanids
>they join my war with the ERE
>they steal emesa from the jews and edesa from the romans
>they raze Aila, the port I used to ensure my hordes had food
>Their relation with the jews are worsening
Well guess they'll get destroyed
>>164306938
>The English word elf is from the Old English word most often attested as ælf (whose plural would have been *ælfe). Although this word took a variety of forms in different Old English dialects, these converged on the form elf during the Middle English period.[5] During the Old English period, separate forms were used for female elves (such as ælfen, putatively from common Germanic *ɑlβ(i)innjō), but during the Middle English period the word elf came routinely to include female beings.[6]
>The main medieval Germanic cognates of elf are Old Norse alfr, plural alfar, and Old High German alp, plural alpî, elpî (alongside the feminine elbe).[7] These words must come from Common Germanic, the ancestor-language of English, German, and the Scandinavian languages: the Common Germanic forms must have been *ɑlβi-z and ɑlβɑ-z.[8]
>Germanic *ɑlβi-z~*ɑlβɑ-z is generally agreed to be cognate with the Latin albus ('(matt) white'), Old Irish ailbhín (‘flock’); Albanian elb (‘barley’); and Germanic words for ‘swan’ such as Modern Icelandic álpt. These all come from an Indo-European base *albh-, and seem to be connected by whiteness.
The changing of the word itself "elves" rather than the edition of a simple 's' "elfs" is the more Germanic way of doing things.
>>164310207
Offer:
Military access - indefinite
Demand:
Naples&Sicily
Lombardy
Flandern
Cuba
Gibraltar
Sardinia
Adviserfu
What's the most difficult faction to play in WH?
>>164311081
savage orcs
>>164311081
Beastmen imo
>>164311202
LMAO DUDE just like encamp and wait for someone else to raze everything
>>164307585
>implying any mod work would be on the level of anything CA puts out
Modders are too lazy to even update mods after a few patches or actually learn to mod the map like S2 allowed, and here you are saying that the ones actually making content are the lazy ones
>>164311430
It's not that, it's the fact that whenever I have played as them, The Empire, The Elves and Brettonia all chase me across the map with full stack armies at the start of the game when my armies are dog shit. Last time they chased me all the way into the southern greenskin lands
>>164311081
Angrund is pretty rough, did my first go on VH before welfs and it was a scramble to keep my home province (by the skin of my teeth) while also gearing for K8P
I don't know if it'd actually be possible without the ghost heroes and I can't imagine the grudging I'd get if I had to deal with wood elves at the same time
>>164311081
Green cucks
>>164311847
Did the Elves backstab you in your campaign too?
2017 and warhammer STILL hasnt been cracked. ffs man.
>>164311956
Buy the game you stupid goy
>>164306442
It's historical realism that knights were retards who knew jack shit about strategy and believed charging into the face was the only right and honorable thing to do.
In 1410 at Grunwald king Jagiello had to tell the Polish army he attended to three masses before battle just to keep them from mindlessly charging into pit traps and the braced Hospitaller army. And he did that only because he came from less retarded Eastern Europe. He was one of the very few commanders who used strategy, hiding in woods etc.
anyone else here always turn off enemy agents?
they just arent fun to deal with at all
when the fuck are they going to tone down Welf aggressiveness?
>>164311998
i did, played all the vanilla factions, but this jewish company with their 300 dlcs wants more of my money and I want to play the dlcs
hope the chinks crack the game sometime soon
Do any of you lot know as to why my faction unlocker mod won't work?
>>164311930
Played it before Wood elves came out, but my skarsnik playthrough has had them attack angrund to the point of forcing confederation with the main dwarfs (while leaving Skarsnik alone despite wiping out Durthu really early on)
>>164312206
Google creamapi to get all dlc
>>164312531
i see
>>164312461
Do you use anything that edits the startpos? Like the "Make Vlad the VC leader" mod?
G O B L I N S
ARE YOU A GOD?
>>164303856
roll
>>164313550
What faction unlock mod are you using specifically?
>>164303604
Make it good
>>164313073
Shit like this reminds me of why I prefer Khorne.
>>164313629
Hmm I can't remember it was that guy who does a lot of the faction revamp stuff taht adds new units and shit
>>164303604
>Still haven't got WE.
If I roll them I'll go buy them right now.
Why is leadership for greenskins so shit? I thought that they were mostly too stupid to retreat?
Lads what should be my first course of action?
why the fuck isn't there an option to make the campaign map less detailed in TWW?
literally loading times out the arse for something that doesn't even fucking matter.
>>164307093
Last campaign I played it didnt add any of the new units to Chaos warriors campaign. Norsca factions did tho.
Second time I've ever had my ally reinforce, first was Franks helping me conquer england
>>164313718
>Not being fine with wearing cod pieces with the lads
NIGGA U GAY
>>164314026
burn/awaken norscan tribes until only one of the tribes you awakened is alive. After that start heading south - your norscan ally will repopulate the entirety of norsca and help with your invasion
>>164312461
You will get fucked by anything that touches startpos
>>164311589
Well I would actually start by overhauling the campaign map and rummage through books and wiki's to find out how many more named villages there are and where they're located so each fucking faction actually feels like one.
>>164314598
which out of the norscan factions is the best to keep?
>>164308776
Idk man, I download new maps sometimes. I also make up storys in my head and do the battles for it imagining it's part of a movie.
I'm probably a full blown noob though. All I know is which units work against other (Yari vs horses, Katana vs Yari [?]) but I basically have no tactics. I just put yari at the front, archers at the back and katana in between. Sometimes I charge with horses from behind.
I'm slowly getting bored now though, that's why I'm asking. I was thinking about buying Atila and finally play a campaign, is it good?
>>164314945
Not that guy, but Sarl have usually turned out pretty okay. Either Sarl or Aesling.
>>164314945
Sarl is good since they sit in the border between Kislev and Norsca. I use them as bait for doomstacks and their sweet loot. When I have enough growth I make a second army and load it full of Warriors to help them take Norsca.
>>164314026
razes the dwarfs
>>164314945
when you take the first one (don't remember name, the guys at the very start), don't do it from the first town, since it borders Kislev and they will come out and kill your new tribe instantly. Save that tribe for the 2nd take you take, in your pic its the one you've razed by the dwarf town.
>some offering to be a puppet state
god damn it's like I'm seeing bigfoot right now
Something I really don't understand about TWW is why unit banners don't show through terrain/ trees.
It's not like they're actually obscured, it just means I have to constantly go on the fucking tactical map to see where all my units are because the unit banners just get covered up by trees.
Is there a mod that fixes this?
>-24 public order to slaves
Rome 2, how the fuck do I fix this? I have not taken slaves post battle ONCE. I kill and release everyone I beat. How is this even a thing?
Heheheheh fucking history fags. Warhammer is in the top 10 in steam sales this year. Fantasty is here to stay.
>>164315906
do eiit
What are the funniest factions in TWW according to you anons? I'm playing Vampire Cunts, and while I like having a lot of monsters and wizards that can duke it out with the best, it gets kind of tiring to have your only viable strategy be "charge with everything and spam heal while your fliers fuck their artillery".
When should i think about making a 2nd chaos horde?
>>164317404
Also forgot pic. I mean, it works, but watching my entire army do a conga following the varghulf into the city and just making a big fucking ball of murder and slog it out isn't very stimulating.
>>164314161
SSD
>>164315101
I rate Attila LEGIO COMITATENSES/10
>>164317404
Empire is pretty fun.Skarsnik is up there too
>>164305406
yeah Wood elves kind of broke the campaign by being massive faggots. you really have to go at them right away. luckily the never actually defend their forest so just sneak around the backside and burn it all down. and don't let them re settle it.
>>164306067
One of the reasons I want a Victoria tw so bad.
look at those cannons with casemates. delicious.
>>164306586
God damn late victorian is the absolute best. Those aesthetics.
>>164307494
Med 1: Danes, Egypt, England
Rome 1: Julii, Brutii, Franks
Med 2: Scots, HRE
Empire: Sweden
Napoleon: France
Shogun 2: Oda, Chosokabe, Shimazu, Aizu, Choshu, Satsuma, Tosa, Saga, Jozai
Rome 2: Rome (Julia)
Warhammer: Empire (Franz), VC (Mannlet), VC (Vlad), Greenskins (Grimgor), Bloody Hands, Dwarfs (Thorgrim), Beastmen (Khazrak), Beastmen (Morghur), Chaos (Kholek)
Looking back, I think Shogun 2 and Warhammer have been my favourites despite having tons of nostalgia from the others and Napoopan battles being fun as fuck.
>If you make a client state of someone, their client states become your client states
Share things you only recently discovered, /twg/.
>>164313718
I bet you kiss girls, you faggot
>>164315101
Play the campaign and enjoy asymetrical battles where you have to win against the odds.
the Campaign is great for roleplaying since it facilitates the stories that lead up to the battle. Especially if you don't min/max your campaign skills and just role play your general.
>>164307494
>tfw I started with Shogun 1
>>164315101
Also don't play the atilla campaign if you don't know how campaign gameplay works. You'll get wrecked. Atilla has one of the more complex campaigns of any total war. Try shogun 2 campaign first and then go on to atilla.
So I'm gonna be starting up a Crooked Moon campaign again soon and I wanted to know if I should just rush Eight Peaks and forget about my starting settlements or if I should consolidate and then go for Eight Peaks?
>>164318679
Not recently discovered but handy nonetheless: Freeing norscan tribes (as Chaos obviously) doesn't make them your client states, you'll have to declare war on them immediately afterwards and force them to subjugate.
If you don't do this, they will go off doing their own diplomacy and fuck you in the ass sooner rather than later.
>half a unit is allowed to slip through my line unshattered
>>164319068
Consolidate, the Crooked Moon clan doesn't really get any benefits from owning Eight Peaks, wheras Clan Angrund gets a massive reduction in upkeep (they start with it being higher) and various other factionwide boons.
>>164315303
I think Sarl have died in mine, all that exists is skaeling and Varg
>tfw your client states are at war with each other
guess its not just the chaos campaign then
>>164306549
>Transmutation on his main line.
Transmutation does damage to one model per unit at a time. It's only ever worth its cost of you can hit more than one single model unit at a time with it.
>play a losing battle
>win by the skin of my teeth
>they all flee
>their extra general who's still alive is surround by all my dudes
>he's still getting away anyway
>hundreds of them swarming him and they can barely dent his armour (shit like this makes me want to play historical)
>send Franz in on his flying pony
>starts smacking the general
>my guys start taking damage
>wut
>Franz kills my other general who was nearly dead before killing the enemy general
well... who knew your generals attacks could hurt your own dudes.
On a side note, does anyone know of any mods that make general bloat not so silly in this game? I get that it's warhammer but even for the settings its well overblown.
pic related, many were kill today
Whats a good defensive faction to play as in Attila?
>Playing VC the boring way by massing grave guard
>not massing zombies with grave guard support
Turning VC into Chaos warriors but skellys is boring tbqh lads
I've been trying to lose this city since I captured it but the Carthage spy outside keeps killing the rebel army by poisoning them.
>>164303856
Rollin'
Do I play DME, Rome 2 or Attila lads?
Played a lot of DME lately, so leaning towards R2 and Attila.
>>164320431
>arse
lel
>>164313718
Khorne is pretty dull and chaos as a faction is extremely tedious. None of the story, characters matter with chaos and there's no intrigue. Chaos has nothing to lose or gain and it's just slight variations on plagues, massacres, weird sex creatures and twisting plots. Probably why GW made Archaon so that chaos had a character you could give a shit about.
>>164317404
Greenskins can be fun for doing stupid builds or themed builds like a monster army or an all squig stack etc.
>be me
>check replays, looking for good screenshots
>check old Beastmen v Counts battle, remember how amazing it was, how a small beastmen army held off two VC stacks (Vlad and blood knights included) thanks to my Shaman and ruby rings of ruin
>Manticore dies without doibng anything because >Unbinding (replay was from before Wood Elves, in case it was not obvious)
>All my units destroyed soon after lines touch
>My shaman spergs around
>Beastlord dies
>Decisive defeat!
Epic, simply Epic
>>164320642
What's DME?
>>164320685
>why GW made Archaon so that chaos had a character you could give a shit about.
>Nihilism incarnate
>>164320858
Darthmod Empire, does a good job of making Empire not shit tbqh
>>164320931
Ah, cool. I have empire but haven't played it yet. Always heard it was shit, but I might be confusing that with Napoleon.
>>164321002
Empire and Napoleon are two halves of a great game.
>>164321002
I've not played Napoleon but I have to say I do really like Empire.
I've never played it vanilla as I've always heard not to waste to my time doing so, only to use DME.
>>164320313
>either roman empire due to smelly barbars
>himyar or axum due to trade routes and the dam, although it's hard to get non-sassanid enemies to attack you
>celts defending a unified britain
>venedians in their comfy farming empire
>>164320903
That's why he's interesting, he has an ambition outside of the chaos pantheon and exploits chaos to fulfil it. It's a character with a purpose which is what TT needs since you make a context up to justify the battles i.e wiping out the empire. For chaos it's just 'spread disease' or 'skulls for the skull throne' etc. Greenskins are pretty dull as well but at least skarsnik and azhag have eight peaks and the crown of dominion as motivations.
Who is the edgiest legendary lord?
>>164321164
I've played DME and enjoyed it. But I've also played vanilla empire and enjoyed it.
I find DME still has flaws present and empire does naval battles the best.
>>164322086
Archaon, of course.
>>164321292
Thank you!
>>164322090
I played DME with Bran Mac Born and it makes for a pretty comfy but very challenging experience.
Warhammer infuriates me so much
> Stupid chaos, varg and skaeling calling me "asinine mortal" and "your demise is certain" 200 hundred times a day makes me ultra furious
> Retarded chaos, varg shitskins (shitsking in the north? wtf), and sgaylings running around like faggots
> Battle is stupid marauders and faggy dogs in the flanks waiting to fuck my immobile empire formation if my steam tanks are not able to take them out on time they meet my line
> Warhammer lore is so freaking stupid. I bought the game expecting a warhammer 40k but this game is really all about Rome 1 barbarian invasion where stupid nomad people fucks up battles and campaign map where you chase like a faggy asshole 200 turns while they raze and pillage your cities
> There's more: How come varg and sgayling are all jocks with huge thighs and muscles while the normal humans are skinny and weak? Are the women in the north fat spartans that gave birth to huge ass babies? Or they made a pact with chaos so they could be roided up without going to the gym?
I'm winning with the empire while raizing all of these asshole nomad shitskin fags and going to desinstall this piece of shit game full of chasing and retarded corruption everywhere making you camp every ONE turn so you are dont lose your whole stack.
Going to buy shogun 2 and be happy with a decent game.
>yfw you give the filthy kuffar redskins your BBC (Big Brown Cock)
>>164322402
>Send a couple of armies out west over the ocean
>All their generals die in storms
>take tlaxcala
>other army revolts and joins the aztecs
yes this is fine.
>>164320396
>turning vampire cunts to chaos
>implying vc have motherfucking CHOSEN
baka desu senpai
>>164306738
Because he knows when to be sneaky and he knows when to be stabby
I honestly feel that the Chaos Campaign should be more like the Mongol's campaign in the first Shogun, as opposed to what we got.
Running around unable to stack is not fun.
>>164323131
Giving Chaos all the quality of life shit Beastmen have is a good start.
Remove barbar
Reinstate the kingdom of the african KANGS
That full cost forced march mod kinda turns force march into a useless thing. I was just comparing it to my regular march, and now my regular march can go further than forced march.
>>164324272
the idea is that it takes effect the turn after you set them into march stance
Empire has the best province, research and agent system of all games. Too bad every battle is the same.
>>164324272
Personally, I use the one that disables march if the army has acted in the turn (like how the Underway works)
>>164303604
roll
/r/ing roll charts of the older tw games
>>164324616
Which one is that?
How does one beat the bird bloke in warhammer?
If I decide to be a good cuck and pay 40e for TW:W, is there a way to at least pirate the DLCs? if not, are they at least in the campaign mode but not playable?
I don't mind not playing the DLC races but I'd at lest like to be able to fight them.
>>164325076
Every battle I faced him, he was on the verge of death from the trip
Since he's not a LL, you can also assasinate him
Also, check his resists, he has some pretty insane projectile resistance IIRC
>>164325167
You can't pirate the DLC, but all of them are featured in the grand campaign (except, maybe, the Free DLCs that you have to manually download)
>>164325167
Yeah, all the DLC is put into the game either way, you just need to pay to unlock your use of it.
And I have not heard much about piracy for the game. I don't think it's been cracked yet? Not sure though.
What was that one battle /twg/? The one you'll never forget? The one where you beat the odds and went full pic related?
>>164325560
>>164325426
Ok. As long as I can play against them I can get behind that. and I just read about creamAPI and all that shit, so if I can put my hand on the DLC files I can even play em. Thanks bros.
>>164314161
I recently got a SSD, load times went from literal minutes to just 10 or so seconds. I can't recommend it enough.
Hmm
Fight or see if the autoresolve goes my way?
>>164325948
I dont even wanna know what mods are going on here
>>164326104
qeq
It's chaos divided
>>164325841
Probably this one
I've had others in older games, most memorably as scotland in Med 2 defending against endless fucking hordes of jihads whilst holding Jersulaem.I lost it in the end, but at least I took 10 jihadists down for each scottish crusader
>>164325948
Fight. Fun.
What a nice man.
>>164326197
Lucky you, my defence of jerusalem was anticlimatic as fuck. I was playing as the spanish and had hit the pike&shot phase for the first time, I relied on pikes to hold the streets. They got butchered when they switched to sidearms and everything was lost.
>>164325841
I don't know if I can ever top this
>>164324483
it's still a long way off ideal. Empire should have provincial offices and those characters should get a bonus to recruitment in their province whilst granting an income and public order bonus. It's what war weariness should have been, a system where your provinces suffer the longer their chief is away fighting.
>>164325841
my first bridge battle since R1, I ended up losing. They had far more skirmishers and swordsmen where I had mostly spears with a few hastati. It was close, I held the bridge, lots of good general ability use but I didn't have the men. Sent my out of ammo velites and 2 hastati to flank the other side of the bridge but it wasn't enough. Celts OP.
So I've never played a Total war game. I figured I'd pick one up to give it a shot. If I only plan on getting one for the time being which should I prioritize? Medieval and Rome sound the most appealing to me setting wise but I'm not opposed to the others if they're just better games.
Literary just about to take Middenhiem and some literary-who empire faction sweeps in to take their capital with a bigger army than me.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>164303604
roll
Everyone should download Radious Total War now! Its amazing!
>>164325841
Empire fight against Archaon, last time I had an Empire campaign going. It was a full doomstack with Franz backed up by one of the Empire Captain guys (the niggas with the beards) who fielded a ton of Flagellents and Handgunners. My main line holds them off and starts to break when the reinforcements arrive and beat back the cavalry and the remaining infantry. While my cav runs off to kill the runners, Franz and my other Lord and my Light wizard take on Archaon and win the battle.
Can they make a total war game that spans a great deal of time?
Like, starts at 500 AD and then ends up 1800 AD or something, giving you many different units as history progresses.
Wish me luck guys
>>164325841
Not the greatest of all of them but I remember this one because the AI made it all click into place somehow
>M2 Thera mod
>playing as faust, invading sylvania
>one of my stacks recently conquered a city, another stack close by to support
>many enemy stacks surround the city
>supporting stack general gets assassinated and his stack forced to retreat by enemy pressure
>city defenders have to hold the city alone
>it all comes down to a long battle through the muddy streets as both me and the enemy fight to the last man
I managed to hold but goddamn was it tense. Only the 2HP bodyguards made it possible.
Well fuck my ass. I just ignored the peace treaty from the chuckle fucks because at the time they were at war with factions I wanted to confederate with and they marched two armies all the way around the god damn mountains just to attack me through blackfire pass. That's some dedication.
Wait so the blood elves will be in my Grand Campaign without me buying them??
How do you think they'll balance out all the races once their trilogy of TW:w is complete? Will it be shit?
LIZARDMEN WHEN
>>164327003
You might not win, but you can give them a really good trashing so they won't become a threat to your stuff for a while. Buy you some time to create a new army.
>>164327238
TOMB
>>164326754
The problem with that is that players will either finish campaigns too quickly to have much point in having a large timespan, or the time passes too quickly for each era to really play out before units become obsolete.
>>164326754
We have that, anon, but it's not satisfying
>>164326623
Best games, imo:
Attila - hard to get into, has great battles and sieges, good campaign mechanics but can become tedious fast and the period is kind of boring, imo (Fall of the Western Roman Empire, rise of barbarian kingdoms and invasion of the Huns). Suffers from most factions being very similar and the different ones being harder to play than the same-y ones.
Attila - Age of Charlemagne - The above, but with way fewer units per faction, set around 900 AD with the rise of modern countries like England, France, etc. Excellent DLC.
Rome 2 (Extremely bad release, has lingered for 3 years. Simple politics and empire management, but fun factions and battles. A good game now.)
Medieval 2 (dated, uses old TW mechanics and controls) More complex than modern TW. Set in a more interesting and diverse time period than Rome and Attila. Fun sieges and combat. Hard to get into if you're used to modern TW.
Rome 1 (see Med2). Also has good politics and an interesting spin on the Roman civil war.
Shogun 2 - Excellent campaign, fun battles, awful sieges. Faction diversity is borderline non existent.
Warhammer - very simple to learn, but every faction is vastly different from each other. Next to no politics, simple economy and empire management, but extremely fun battles. First non historical Total War that has fantasy mechanics, magic, guns, swords, demons, orcs, midgets, vampires, skellingtons, elves and other monstrosities. Best Total War for a new player.
Have not played Napoleon and Empire so I cannot comment on those.
>>164327402
>>164325841
The Archaon quest battles on legendary felt incredibly tense, and there was just not time to spare rallying units and cycle charging. Pic related was pretty hairy and before the hotfix.
>>164327559
>>164327402
How many provinces are there in this mod actually?
Like does France consist of one province, several rally tiny ones or is the map just so huge that there's enough space for everything?
>>164327553
>warhammer
>best for new player
No way, this game fucks you in the ass way too much for a new player. I've been playing since Rome 1 and I still can't finish a campaign in Warhammer after over 20 hours.
Shogun 2 is best for new player imo.
>>164327761
I recommended it because of its simplicity. There really isn't much to learn for a new player, I think. I haven't played much since Welfs came out, however, but the game was pretty easy at release with just the base factions.
>>164325076
You could always try magic missle attacks...
>>164327761
>Shogun 2 is best for new player imo.
>tfw Shogun 2 was the first total war game I actually got a game over screen
>Turn 2 or 3 as the Oda
I wasn't used to that kind of starting position at all.
>>164327238
My guess would be poorly. I do feel they're probably waiting on everything to be in to balance things properly. But even then it will probably need a few mods to make things enjoyable.
It should be fine but CA can be pretty inconstant at balance.
>>164327760
Since there are different maps they stretch everything differently. Europe tends to looks very pancakish. That's the sad reality about engine limitations.
>>164327238
>How do you think they'll balance out all the races once their trilogy of TW:w is complete?
It worked on TT to a degree, it'll work in TW. Although with that being said it wont be easy. For example:
Skaven are fucking absurdly well rounded, think Empire but instead of jack of all trades master of none, its jack of all trades master of all. Good infantry, good range, good artillery, good war machines, good monsters, good everything. Being able to replicate this in game will be a challenge. Skaven were usually power ranked #1 in 8E.
Ogres are an army of monstrous infantry with low model counts. How they'll make this work without either fucking Ogre players or turning them into obscenely overpowered brutes will be interesting.
Especially given the power creep we've seen with new content this will be a challenge to keep older stuff inline with newer stuff.
>>164327553
>More complex than modern TW
I don't really see how you could state that, there's much more stuff to keep an eye on in R2/attila and most importantly, they're more important to pay attention to since building the wrong stuff will actively fuck you over rather than just slowing you down for some turns.
Waheyyyyyy
>>164328053
...if Tzeentch wasn't involved
>>164328175
One way to balance skaven is to just make their non-shit units proportionally a bit more expensive to make up for how much crap they can potentially bring.
Also, they could make up some rules for ogre units to ignore some of the traditional anti-large counters if it's a problem for them. Like, an ability that negates charge defense.
>>164327402
What mod is that?
>>164328148
Eras
no faction limit, no settlement limits ahh this could have been so sexy
>>164327761
>Shogun 2 is best for new player
I get why you're saying this but seriously that early game is a fucking mess on anything higher than easy for a new player.
>>164328432
what's wrong with your exalted champion
is he feeling okay
>>164303604
rol
>>164328819
kek it's part of chaos divided, it's some kind of Bloodthirster.
>>164328708
Is it any good? This is the first i've heard of it
>CA silent on question of more paid DLC for TWW1.
>Grace says Grom has no set release, other than "early in the year".
>Darren confirms "Old Friend" is a Lord.
I hope they have at least 2 more lord packs in them. I want my Marius in Averland.
>>164327316
Nope, got absolutely trashed and only managed to get 447 kills because their leadership is so trash.
>empire campaign
>dwarves destroyed a while ago
>damn that's good news hate those buggers
>chaos coming in from the north, vampire counts from the east and now the green madman just besieged my settlement in wissenland with 3 stacks
jesus christ i never missed the dwarves so much
>>164329194
Unit variety is small for my taste, but there is territorial recruitment, which is not always the best thing
Many of the medieval campaigns are reharshed and differ only by 1 or 2 factions
Lack of details for the descriptions, no scripted events, very easy victory conditions
also, some really are angry about m2 mechanics like slow response and sieges, so if you are not a fan it's not going to get better with this mod.
The positives
You can play the 4 khaganates
There is one african campaign, the whole map so you can conquer Australia
The AI is aggressive
>>164329609
into the book you go manling
>>164328175
>jack of all trades master of all
You've completely misrepresented Skaven in TT. Firstly even if we assume rng isn't going to factor into TWW (which already challenges your assumption since skaven are about being very successful but then robbing themselves of that advantage with unreliability and potential self-harm) Skaven still aren't jack of all trades and certainly not masters. They aren't even well-rounded.
>can't respond to cavalry AT ALL
>only have specialist skirmishers
>you can rob them of decent leadership with flanking, which they often can't prevent.
>ALL their units are extremely vulnerable to ranged fire.
>No reliable AP outside of artillery and specialists
>>164329609
>Dwarfs losing the Badlandsbowl
What kind of fucking meme is this?
>>164329374
Hey anon, do you mind explaining where you found all that info from? Some twitch stream, is there a link, if you could be so kind?
Also, is that a new image from the devs or something fanmade as a prediction?
>>164329374
I think the "old friend" is Krell
>>164329374
Man, it would be great to be able to play as counties other than Kikeland.
Okay gaise i just bought total war attila and rome 2 emperor with a shitload of dlcs
I fucked up? I was planning playing the shit of the singleplayer with mods and also looking at the mp for some quick fun
>inb4 buyer remorse
>>164330432
>I fucked up?
Refund Rome 2 and all DLCs, play Attila.
Bretonnia confirmed free for everyone in Feb
No $20 race pack
>>164329374
Is the shit in that pic confirmed or just rumors
>>164330432
what is the problem here family
>>164330716
We knew that right from the start, are you guys all new.
>>164329374
darren a shit
dogbert should take his job
>>164330883
no we didn't, I've been browsing the general for months and never seen it confirmed
>>164330804
I really wanted to ask if the mp is dead in rome 2 or attila. I also just wanted to share my thoughts
>>164330950
They devs said right before release that Brets won't be finished by release and will be the free race later on.
>>164330950
You haven't been browsing it very closely, then. We knew Bretonnia was going to be FLC and dropping in February before the K&W pack released.
To the guy that made the Building the Empire mod, how do I fix this?
>>164330950
Bretonnia was confirmed for free even before Warhammer was released, we just never had a date for when Bretonnia was going to be added in.
>>164330716
you're fucking retarded
We've known this for ages
What is he thinking about?
>>164331483
>>164331386
>>164331264
>>164330972
baited for these exact replies
lol just effortless
>>164331606
simply ebin
>>164331606
you fooled us all with your effortless display of the blundering retard. well done!
>>164331554
Thinking about how he could be visiting his brother in Bögenhafen and fucking Reiklander whores instead of being murdered my Norscan shits.
Oh god I just faced WEs for the first time as beastmen, what the absolute fuck is this.
>>164331713
>>164331791
don't get mad now
>>164331554
What is he thinking about?
>>164331864
I complimented you on your efforts, how am I mad?
Any tips for the welf mini campaign?
Elves that aren't led by a beastman when?
>>164331606
This quote will never be irrelevant will it?
>>164329609
>not invading Sylvania the moment you get borders with them?
>you are a disappointment to Sigmar
>>164331990
Wait for HE or DE.
>>164331998
Is that where you come in or something?
>>164331554
https://youtu.be/U-EQJA8Ahac
Empire edition when?
>>164331606
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little wazzock? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my dawi in the slayers, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on black crag, and I have over 300 orc hides. I am trained in underway warfare and I’m the top quarreler in the entire dwarf hold! You are nothing to me but just another dirty humie. I will wipe you the fuck out with mechanical dwarfen precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this continent, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the message ravens? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of thanes across the Empire and your horde is being traced right now so you better prepare for the slayers, maggot. The slayers that wipe out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, humie. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways using the underway, and that’s just with my bare hands and a few dwarf beers. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the dawi and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable goblin ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what holy dwarfen retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit dwarfen fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
These battles take some time man
>>164317404
I literally play vampire counts for vampire chan
Is there any reason to fight wood elves on the battlefield? Their units are way too damn op, auto-resolve is always a better choice.
>>164332645
Well developed Dwarf armys with an engineer can fuck them up big time since their units have assloads of armor and shields and the buffed ranged units can take on the Elven ones.
>>164332814
I'm empire sieging some trees so honestly, it's not doable. Their rangers are the worst by far.
>>164332883
>>164332814
>>164332645
>>164332584
>>164332532
>>164332274
>>164332138
god damn shut the fuck up you pathetic retards
it's not that hard at all stop complaining
>>164332951
samefag
>>164332645
Fun
>Play Empire.
>Make two provinces to unlock every unit.
>Everything else.
>EVERYTHING.
>Is just money and garrisons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5ro1nWsPU
>>164325841
My Date game in Shogun 2, semi-early on went to war with a clan and took an undefended lvl 3 castle, only like 3 turns later to see the enemy clan roll up with like 5 full stack armies to my 1. Rather than lose everything, I had my aging daimyo's son take most of the army and retreat back north to a stronger castle and recruit units, while my daimyo, already kind of an older fellow would stay back and hold the incoming armies off as best he could with a skeleton crew.
Most intense battle I ever fought, and in the end literally came down to my last remaining unit being my daimyo unit and retainers fighting right on the flag capture point outside the tenshu. He survived down to him and like 3 other men, when the remaining enemy routed.
>>164332951
How am I complaining? >>164332584
I've beaten Emp/Chaos/Welfs on Legendary, VH, VH respectively
>>164332951
Don't make me find another copypasta.
FUCKING UMGI
GET OUT OF MY BADLANDS
GET OOOOOOOOOOOUT
>>164333852
>[REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE's in Khazalid]
>>164334037
You've got me in the mood for some splat pics.
Everyone post splats
>>164334165
GOBSHITS IN MY FUCKING KARAK
Why do Empire soldiers look like such faggots?
All in their frilly britches and fag hats. It makes me not want to play Empire.
>>164334396
GOBBOS GET OUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>164334165
Does this count?
>>164334396
FUCKING LEEEEEEEEEAAAAVEEEEE
>Empire campaign
>Take Helmgrat
>Beastmen come out of fucking nowhere and raze it then piss off
What the hell were they doing, just sitting in that mountain pass for like 7 turns waiting for me?
>>164334578
yes
>>164334480
You have no style. Frilly pantaloons and feathered hats are /fa/ as fuck, they're definitely more stylish than whatever garbage bags you sling on.
>>164334530
This is acceptable
Meanwhile, in Japan.
>>164334825
>not using yari wall
GONNA STAB THE CHAOS GITS
>>164334825
kek, you are the attacker, right? Who won?
>>164334931
Taken before it was set.
>>164334964
Yeah. And c'mon guy, what do you think?
SOME DAWI ARE BORN
GROMRIL SPOON IN HAND
>>164325841
>defending Moscow from mongolian shits
>3 stacks vs half stack
>fight them off and proceed to use this to genocide
Polish Nobles
Are Swordsmen ok for my main body of infantry as Franz if I give them the upgrades in the skill tree? I can never decide on what I want to army composition as Empire because most of their infantry is gutter waste.
Why do anything in Warhammer? Campaign map seems kinda sterile. Every faction is already in their homeland. Why should I bother conquering other lands? There's no religion, no population, it's fairly easy and quick to max out your territory/cities. Then you can't even hold certain other areas even if you do conquer them.
Why exactly does everyone hate each other?
>>164335168
I AIN'T NO DAWI THANE'S SON
What are the respective strengths of these races?
Empire
Vampire Counts
Dwarves
Warriors of Chaos
>>164335629
Yeah they are your go to line infantry until greatswords for endgame. Towards the endgame most enemies you meet will have high armour so swordsmen just won't cut it; greatswords literally will.
Might be wasted on Franz, though. Perhaps do it on some shit general first.
>>164335689
Because this is motherfucking Warhammer anon. If there's a problem war will fix, then to war we go.
That aside, I know that at least the dwarven campaign has reason to it. Taking back lost lands and pushing out foreign invaders has been the reason for many wars, in real life and fantasy worlds.
>>164335740
7/10
9/10
6/10
6/10
>>164335740
I wonder if an ASOIAF total war would be any good? Could be cool.
>>164335689
>every faction is already in their homeland
you tried
RELEAAAAASE THE TOMB KIIIIIIINGS
>>164335714
SOME DAWI INHERIT GOLD GRUDGED EYES.
>>164335689
>why does everyone hate each other
>warhammer
>WAR
>hammer
>>164335740
>Empire
Jack of all trades, not outstanding at any one particular aspect whilst being able to compete in every regard. Light cavalry, heavy cavalry, light infantry, heavy infantry, artillery, monstrous cavalry, flying cavalry, combat lords, support lords, (eventually) all eight winds of magic.
>Vampire Counts
Aggressive offensive faction intended to either close with the enemy extremely quickly and tear them to pieces or to slowly dominate and outlast extended fights with their enormous capacity for healing, regeneration, and summoning units mid-battle. Zero ranged units of any kind outside of three winds of magic. Extremely strong characters, spellcasters, monsters, and chariots, with somewhat lacklustre infantry that is made exceptionally strong through the correct use of magic.
>Dwarves
Defensive and slow. Extremely strong in most regards, designed to sit still and force the enemy to come to them with the best artillery and ranged units in the game. No magic of any kind.
>Warriors of Chaos
Hyper aggressive faction intended to fight non-stop. Has the strongest infantry and monsters in the entire setting. Currently very unfinished in-game due to the lack of God-specific units.
all these men dying in the fields
who will take care of their wives back home?
>>164335740
>Empire
Very versatile, has good artillery, ranged units, acceptable infantry, very good cavalry, access to almost all the lores of magic. Wants to utilize a balanced army to get the most of its roster, unless you run meme setups like 19 steam tanks.
>Vampire Counts
Every unit causes fear and crumbles rather than routs, has access to lore of vampires on all its lords which happens to be a very good lore of magic. Generally strong and spammable heroes. Good selection of fast and flying monsters, best cavalry unit in the game. Raise dead is a very strong campaign ability once a few fights have occured, lets you raise good armies instantly.
>Dwarves
Everything is heavily armoured and has very high leadership, can hold the line like no other faction. Good artillery and capable ranged units.
>Warriors of Chaos
Has the strongest infantry in the game, has a very elite army with strong monsters and lords/heroes.
>>164334825
time to pack out the bows boys
TRUE KING OF THE EIGHT PEAKS
>>164325841
My first suicide attack against Rome in R1, with Greek Cities
One by one the enemy attacked: I had 1 full stack vs 5 of the Senate.
They came one by one, and they all died. my first heroic victory in that game
It was 10 years ago
>>164336040
Unless diplomacy and campaign management ever becomes unfucked (spoiler! never happening) it'd be shit
ASOIAF main appeal is the drama, the warfare aspect is barely expanded
>>164336040
Can't properly simulate incest with warscape.
>>164336905
STAAAAAAAAB
>>164336905
>gits still exist
>black crag dorfs
>boars in skarsnik's army
Could be worse though
>>164337215
>>164337060
I just want to play a Night's Watch campaign where I have to bring factions together to repel a massive whitewalker invasion ;-;
>>164309581
How'd you get 100% bonus to commerce? Hell, how'd you get 55% to subsistence?
I know Olives + Basilica of Hermes + Basket Weaver give a total of 50% bonus to commerce, but where's the remaining 50% coming from?
>>164303656
Why the hell not.
FUCKING DAWI SCUM I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I ALREADY HAVE FUCKING CHAOS TO DEAL WITH PISS OFF AND LEAVE ME ALONE
I'M GOING TO GENOCIDE EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU WHEN THIS IS OVER
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>164335629
Swordsmen are tanky units since they have shields, they and spearmen are great for holding the line and jamming shit up. Your killing power should be greatswords charging from behind, Reiksguard, and handgunners though.
Don't fall for the Demigryphs meme. They aren't as good for killing infantry. Also don't fall for crossbowmen either, handguners are great. I usually get 2 Reiksguard, 6 swordsmen, 6 greatswords, and 5 handgunners. Shit works great.
>>164338398
>Also don't fall for crossbowmen either
You're retarded. Crossbows are better than handgunners against unarmoured and lightly armoured targets. Same for quarrelers and thunderers.
>>164338206
and so sweet anon lost his innocence to his first skarsnik playthrough
I used to ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuule the world
>>164338206
I wish I only had K8P like that so it would become my capital after losing everything else, I confederated with the red fangs on my way down and have karak azul or something as my capital, at least it doesn't matter for greenskins as they can't trade
>>164338690
Depends on how you use them.
Handgunners are absolutely devastating if you can get them around an army and just fire into a blob. Crossbows are much more versatile since they don't need line of sight, but when handgunners do have line of sight and you get them a flat surface they can get 20 kills a volley.
>>164339129
Seas would rise when I gave the word
>tfw I got cocky/stupid and attacked Dorfs as VC before I had later units/units capable of dealing with armor
>>164339415
What the fuck
>>164339415
Now in the morning I sleeeeep alone, sweep the streets I used to oooo-ooo-ooown
>>164306067
V I C T O R I A
I can't wait to take back rightful American clay. If it turns out to be pike and shot I will be so very mad.
>>164303604
>>164303656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRae5mRoRE
>>164325841
>be early-mid game
>my main army out clearing through the misty mountains
>gundabad fucking shits march an army just outside rivendell
>oh shit, manage to recruit a couple extra units for the inevitable defence next turn
>the basic elf sword militia held the bridge into rivendell valiantly buying time for the archers to do their work
>eventually they suffer too many casualties and retreat back to the centre
>Aranion and his bodyguards jump into the horde of orcs to keep them from getting into melee with the archers
>racks up shitloads of kills and gains like 4 levels
>archers eventually run out of ammo and charge into the fray
>orc general dies and his force begins to rout
>massive bottleneck of exhausted orcs trying to flee across the bridge
>fresh elven archers chase them down and cut them all to piecesit was all in vain, as another full stack attacked 2 turns later
>>164339697
C U C K E D
>>164321164
DME removes some vannila things, like platoon fire, fire & advance and trade ships.
>>164340291
>>164327737
Lets try this one instead.
just had archaon's army get slaughtered. so how does this work, do I re-recruit him a few turns later and start over from scratch without any buildings?
>>164341693
Yes
>Skarsnik takes it up the ass because muh dwarven armor
>decide to go make food
>accidentally nuke my fish in the microwave instead of just defrosting it
>decide to make a sandwich instead
>drop the fucking jelly jar on the floor
I'm gonna fucking kill myself
>>164341809
at least your post made it through friend
>>164341809
kek
WHY ARE THERE NO GOOD MODS FOR EMPIRE
>>164341793
fuck...is there a way to roll back a turn on a save or something? my autosave is at the end of the turn after i spent all my movement points.
id rather not lose my army like this....just razed a settlement and took like 50 percent casualties while the welfs apparently followed me there with 2 stacks in ambush stance so i never once saw them
>>164342008
Because it's a shit game in a worse setting. The only thing worse than early 18th century Europe is pike & sleep.
>>164342008
Darthmod is good.
>>164342008
Radious
>>164343065
literally WHO?
I don't think I'm enjoying Medieval 2, the enemies constantly have stacks, they declare war on me for no good reason, and I hate having to wait like 4 turns to replace a unit. I think I liked Rome's pop-based recruitment and the later game recruitment over this.
>>164343867
welcome to every total war game ever
>New to Warhammer Fantasy
>Decide to play VC
>Recruit a Strigoi Ghoul King to lead one of my armies
>Categorized as a Wizard
>Giant fucking man-bat-hulk thing
>Wizard
Is there a mod around to remove the fog of war or reveal the campaign map in Warhammer?
>>164345551
>hurr durr watch me be retarded trying to diss something I know nothing about
All vampires are magical you fucking nitwit.
how do you pronounce Mousillon?
Moi-sohn? Moose-ill-on? Moi-say?
>>164332645
Its better to auto resolve most of the time against them
Manual if you want a challenge
>>164345795
I wasn't dissing it you sensitive shitsucker, I was legitimately confused.
>>164345976
He probably just came here from /tg/, don't even sweat it
>>164345940
Moe-sill-EE-un is how it usually goes for me
>>164345940
mou-zee-on
mou-see-on
>>164345551
Not only is it a wizard, it's a wizard that can summon armor piercing monsters that regenerate. That said, he's pretty strong against damn near everything. Throw him into clumps of infantry and watch the bodies fly.
>>164345940
wooster
>>164346052
Not even /tg/ers are that autistically angry. It's my main board. Shitposters gonna shit post
What are you guys expecting to see in the first expansion?
Hard mode: Besides new playable factions
>>164346821
Terrible fucking deck fampai
Anyway i'm looking forward to seeing the autistic rage over the inevitable preorder dlc
Do quests work in co-op campaigns these days?
>>164346821
a meter on your armies that you filled up by winning battles. once filled, it allows entrance to the underway, world roots and the beast paths all at once
>>164345940
Mouse-leon
Why can I not auto-resolve this?
>>164347263
If it's a walled settlement you have to have siege equipment, artillery, or units with a special ability to fight or auto-resolve
>>164347263
cause you have no siege equipment or units dummy
>>164347362
>>164347390
Oh. Well fuck I have 65 hours in this game and I didn't know that.
>>164347484
Are you legitimately retarded?
>>164347484
easy to miss, lots of monstrous units and lords have the 'siege attacker' ability which allows you to instantly attack/autoresolve a walled town battle.
>>164347263
It doesn't let you assault a walled settlement without some form of siege equipment, or a monster/character with the siege attack ability.
>>164347616
No bullying newfags allowed
>>164346821
For the Chaos waste lands to be populatedplease
>>164347960
>60 hours
>new
>>164347616
Can we stop being so rude to new players? Fuck off with your attitude.
V i c t o r i a
>>164346821
>naval units for campaign (galleon, wolf ship, etc)
>but no naval battles, autoresolve only
>new and old world are going to be linked by nodes that units have to pass through
Let me tell you about christians
You'll save me from the Saracen menace... W-Won't you, anon?
if I have multiple corpse carts, do their buffing abilities stack?
>>164349547
Identical abilities never stack.
Fucking horse niggers.
>>164303604
roll
>>164349363
I'm gay
>>164349547
They can still help on different parts of the battlefield. Especially in multi army battles
Which one?
>>164349926
You and I both know what the right answer is
>>164349926
Napoopan
>>164349979
Shogun?
>>164349926
>no empire
I'm really tired and shouldn't have found that so funny but I lost my shit
Thanks, anon
>be me
>Spainiards in Medieval II
>own all of the Iberian peninsula
>allies with France with pretty much perfect relations
>start besieging the closest Moorish city in Africa
>end turn
>France makes an alliance with Moors
>my siege ends without letting me decide
>besiege again
>France picks a losing Saracen country who lost most of its regions already over the strongest overall faction who has a goddamn marriage alliance with them
What the fuck happened?
I'd accept it if those fucks at least didn't delay my conquest. I'm thinking of allying with Britbongs, who I'm also on good terms with, and stabbing those faggots in the back.
>Playing Chaos
>Finally finish off Skaeling + Kislev, march legions to begin war against The Empire and destroy civilization
>Faction Destroyed: The Empire
>Wood Elves have already genocided all the empire factions and taken over half the map
CA STOP RUINING MY IMMERSION!!!!!!!
>>164319876
It's not really bloat its just that generals are the counter to blobs of low-tier infantry like those you're bringing.
The main hero-killer in TWWH is armour-piercing damage. Some handgunners or greatswords would be very cost effective against any heros or generals.
If they are on a horse or something you can also use units like halberds to completely blunt their impact; they wont die fast but its a very good trade.
>>164350373
They did it on purpose to limit your expansion, an alliance with the powerful is never to be trusted.
>>164335740
>Empire
Everything, demigryphs aren't as absurdly strong as they used to be but still very good.
>Vampire Counts
KILL THEM RAISE THEM
Higher casualties means better units so if you need a doom stack go find a big army and make sure both you and the enemy suffer tonnes of casualties
>Dwarves
Good at holding the line, just spam ranged units
>Chaos
Good at being a shit faction with no redeeming units
>>164350579
Good to know they do that. Oh well, it's gonna be another two front war episode
>>164303604
rollan
>>164350674
>Chosen
>Shit units
>>164350876
>chosen, not massively overpriced
>>164350967
Their price isn't really an issue given how quickly money is accumulated as Chaos
>get attila total war
>can't play as attila because he wasn't born yet
what do
>>164350142
Actually I have it, but it's not installed.
>>164350004
I don't know how to play gunpowder total wars
yep, perfectly safe
K A I S E R R E I C H
>>164303656
Rollin'
>>164352414
>hochland alive
impossibiru
>>164303656
I'm a new player, hope I roll an easy faction because I don't know shit about the game.
>>164353057
if you want an easy campaign, play Vampire Counts. Relatively easy start position, and in battle their battlelines are slow, so it gives you time to consider what to do next.
If you go for VC tho, go for Crypt Horros ASAP. They're brutally efficient and will fuck up most other battlelines
>>164353202
That's the Attila roll chart my dude
>>164353202
I'm playing attila, I don't have warhammer total war yet because it's too expensive. I actually like warhammer fantasy a lot but I'm going to wait for a good sale.
>>164303656
Rollan'
What's a good first move when playing the Huns? I don't know if I want to erase the Slavs first and then turn south, or push on Olbia asap.
>>164303656
Never finished a campaign. Make it a good one.
>>164353435
Be different, go to the middle east and fuck with the sassanids for a while. Then go west through north africa and come up through italy.
>>164353290
OOPS. excuse my retardation plz
>>164335740
>Empire
Combined arms, most versatile roster in the game, has all the lores of magic. Essentially England from M2 but with all magic, tanks and best cav in the game.
>Vampire Counts
Same as Empire, but without scirmishers and overreliance on monsters to do the scirmisher's job. Units are weaker than other factions' equivalents, but it is offset by a ton of super strong magic, which makes them tanky as fuck.
>Dwarves
A very defensive faction, with ton of income in the campaign. Essentially Empire, but tanky as fuck, has no cav and second best scirmishers in the game. Has no magic, but rune system is stronger most of the time.
>Warriors of Chaos
Literally rape-your-face faction with entire playstyle centered around creating doomstacks of super elite infantry units (literally best infantry in the game) and just rushing your opponent. All Chosen variants are fucking ridiculous in cqc and WILL rape everything the enemy throws at them.
>tfw your mod is on the front page of the workshop.
>>164356160
link it fuccboi
>>164356160
link it
>shogun 2
>start game as hattori
>take over one province 8 turns into the game after the fuckbois who owned it waged war on me
>a grand total of 14 turns into the game, Ikko Ikki and Imagawa wage war on me and fuck me up
why the fuck
FUCK! This is my third try trying to beat this minotaur/centagor/cygor doomstack, and it keeps crashing at the loading screen!
I get close to beating them, concede from the battle, then I'm hit with a "TWWH has stopped responding" message EVERY TIME WHAT THE FUCK
>>164347484
Dude, like... Fuck. How?
>>164356160
Get out, Lokerian
>>164356516
retreat and reset the map
failing that auto-resolve, or load an older save
>>164346821
Lustria, Naggaroth, maybe Araby?
Of course reddit rats, and hopefully Ogres, unless they're saving shit like that for the second expansion
>>164350967
>underestimating spiral power users
Who the hell do you think they are, anon?
>CA relases Expansion 1
>new factions and lords are fucking amazing and fun
>old game1 factions never get redone and become really unfun compared to the new ones
I can see it, like some horrible abomination of a future.
Is the beastman dlc worth getting?
>>164307494
>Rome
Julii, Carthage
>M2
Venice, England, France, HRE
>Empire
Russia, England, France
>Napoopan
Russia, France, England
>S2
Shimazu
>R2
Rome
>TWW
Chaos (Archaons), Chaos (Archaons), Chaos (Archaons), Chaos (Archaons), Chaos (Archaons), Chaos (Archaons), Empire (Karl Franz), Empire (Karl Franz), Dwarves (Thorgim), Welves (Orion), Vampire Counts (Vladdy)
Yeah...
>>164357573
the mini-campaign is shit, buy it if you like the faction or if you really want Big Daddy Boris.
>tfw can't purge barbars in attila
>>164307494
never finished M1 or S1
>Rome
Brutii, Julii, Greece
>M2
Denmark
>Empire
Sweden, Netherlands
>Napoopan
France
>S2
literally all of them except for Hattori including FOTS
>R2
still salty, never finished
>Attila
still have to play, avoided after R2 disaster, I've owned it for a while now
>Warhammer
Empire 2x, Dwarves 2x, Belegar, now working on Vamp cunts
funny thing is I have hundreds of hours in all the pre R2 games and just never finished many of my campaigns, I either went past the time limit or stopped playing
>buy it if you like the faction
how do I know if I like it if I haven't tried it?
>>164357938
watch some utube vids on their gameplay or try to fight against them in MP or GC
Post glorious images
>>164358268
>>164357938
it plays like skarsnik but as a horde and with minotaurs
>>164357891
Is it because Rome are the barbars now?
>>164303656
Rolling for Worst Empire
>>164358496
Might as well be
>>164331374
working on it senpai. Dunno why it happened.
>>164303656
Rolling for FotE campaign (not including viking, celtic, and slavic factions due to them never getting an update for FotE).
I started my first campaign as the ikko ikki in shogun 2
How do I use my monk?
>>164358807
spread communism in neighbouring provinces
>>164358841
yea but how? do i just walk him over and leave him there or can i use an ability or?
>>164358954
i think you just sorta leave him there
also when they become communist enough, you can start an ikko ikki rebellion with the monk
>>164358268
>playing ikko ikki
>Hattori requests an alliance
>accept
>relations between us are at around 80
>~8 turns later, they break the alliance and now its -70
what the fuckkkk
Are there any decent mods to make the diplomacy in this game less fucking frustrating?
>wood elf army full stack all the way in the wastelands to harass my empire
FUCK OFF
>>164359584
>be Vampire Counts
>several stacks of Beastmen ravaging my settlements
>Empire knocking on my western borders
>Chaos knocking on my northeastern borders
>All of a sudden Orion and Durthu come into my territory and declare war
Know my pain
>>164359584
YOU'RE ABOUT TO GET
>E L F E D
>L
>F
>E
>D
when are they going to fix the wood elves on the campaign map? They are beyond insanity, they shouldn't be genociding their fucking allies, they don't even fucking fight Chaos or Beastmen, let alone the Orcs
What do you guys think the victory conditions will be for Bretonnia when they are playable in the GC?
>>164360171
>get all of Bretonnia
>kill kayoss
>>164360171
Destroy: The Empire
Produce enough wine: 0/10000 units
>>164360294
why would they destroy friends and allies?
>>164360356
>being friends with beer drinking sausage makers
>>164360171
>collect 60 grails to build a grail shrine
>fight a scripted battle against chaos
>>164360478
>you get a grail each time you burn a dwarven grudge book
>>164360579
>>164360294
wine based economies are wood elf territory.
so how badly do you think CA will fuck up Skaven?
Seems like they're gonna fuck up Clan Skryre immensely unless the make guns and cannons better
>>164361202
guns and cannons are good though?
Napoleon or Rome 2?
>>164360171
>Control all of Bretonnia through direct ownership, vassals or military allies
>No outstanding Crusades/Errantry Wars
>Destroy faction: Mousillion
>Warriors and Warherds of Chaos restricted to Chaos Wastes
>Arachon Wounded
>>164361202
guns and canons are bad? My Hellfire rockets get at least 100 kills a battle, the cannons only slightly less
>>164361267
running your guns to the side/back of the enemy to shoot them doesn't make them good.
Gunlines can't kill shit from the front, as if a wooden shield would protect you from a bullet
>>164361429
>all of empires artillery not getting at least 200+ kills a battle
what are you doing sempai?
>>164361496
large unit sizes. toaster can't handle ultra
>>164361562
specs?
Orion is such a fucking faggot. Him and his entire unbreakable army.
>>164356806
Skaven are reddit now? I'm out of the loop. What happened?
Whats the best magic school? Most broken shit.
Back then I cheesed around with vampires and abused lore of death to oneshot enemy generals or use bjuna I think it was against strong unit blobs.
Seems to me its no longer as good as before the whole beastshitters and woodfaggots DLC. Did they change anything? It also says in spirit leechs and final transmutations tooltip that it can be resisted?
I'm new to the Warhammer Fantasy Universe but...why don't all the humans in the VC domains just move somewhere else?
>>164362269
Extreme superstition and canonically most of Sylvania. is owned by the Empire, specifically Stirland.
Also Vlad Von Carstein was extremely popular with the people unfortunate enough to live in Sylvania.
WILDRIDERS ARE FUCKING BULLSHIT
so is lightning strike battles just a new name for night battles?
What is a good faction for first Attila campaign
>>164362269
Life in Sylvania isn't bad enough for people to actively try to emigrate to a different province.
>>164361562
i was referring to large. people actually play on ultra?
>>164362648
Franks, Goths and Saxons
>>164362269
Because they're all just waiting for Vlad's return. Vlad made Sylvania great.
>>164362648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC0S60Gp5rM
>>164362269
Because the vampires are actually the good guys
>>164362835
Is Trump Americas' Vlad?
Please tell me they are going to add naval battles in the next expansion /twg/.
They wouldn't simply repackage another TW:W with nothing new and only 4 factions for 60 bucks once again, right?
>>164362670
I guess. Being an average schmuck in a medieval setting sucks regardless, but the nobility being LITERAL controlled predators towards you would add an extra dimension of bullshit, to me.
>>164363214
canonly, Vlad was really good and keeping Sylvania safe. There was no banditry, greenskin raids, beastmen raids etc. Yeah, people went missing every so often but it was otherwise a pretty safe, if spooky, place
>>164363214
>He doesn't want a vampire countess sucking his blood as you feel her cold breasts pressing against you.
>he doesn't want to be dominated by a hot FEMALE vampire
>>164363214
To be fair, the job security and national defense of Sylvania is god tier.
>>164363214
I'm okay with it if it gets me close to Vampire-chan!
>>164363467
I want toKISSherBUTTHOLE!!!
>You will never love a girl like Vlad loved Isabella
>A girl will never love you like Isabella loved Vlad
>Vlad and Isabella will always be the ideal that you'll never reach
>>164362691
Yes?
>>164363214
>no bandits
>no orks
>no beastmen
>it's safe as fuck all around
>literally hordes of undead protecting you and your family
It's a fucking safe heaven for a human commoner, especially compared to fucking Bretonia.
>inb4 vampire food
Compared to being slaughtered by orks or chaos? The survival rate for peasants in sylvania is high as fuck.
>>164363325
>sucking blood
>not ripping a chunk out of your neck
>>164363884
I wonder, have their been any cases of a Vampire feeling sympathetic towards a peasant and turning them into a vampire?
>>164363903
>Implying a refined member of the nobility would use such barbaric manners and get blood all over her dress
>>164363964
You mean I can be with Vampire-chan forever?
>>164364086
>implying they care
>>164362269
Life in Vampire land is actually not the worst.
>Crime is nearly non-existent.
>Witch hunters don't go around stirring people up.
>Foreign raiders are extremely rare, as are bands of state troops coming through "foraging".
>Almost no one gets conscripted.
>Taxes are reasonable.
And in exchange for all of that, all you have to do is stay inside and lock your doors at sundown, and never, ever ask questions about why people sometimes go missing.
You accept that your lords have your best interest at heart, and you accept that them feeding their... desires from time to time is the price of their love and protection, and you get on with your life.
Really, it's not that bad. It's not that bad at all.
>>164363964
Sometimes although it's generally frowned upon
>>164362479
yes
>>164362691
>people actually play on ultra?
obviously, why not?
>>164363884
You forget that Sylvania is also home to crypt ghouls, necromancers, potentially insane vampires, giant bats, giant undead wolves, the restless dead etc. The lore of Vampires and Undeath attract all manner of evil shit just like Herdstones attract Beastmen.
Vlad was noted as a successful leader because he allegedly made sure the Sylvanians can live safely and not just in squalor. Judging by the fact that had to be noted regarding his rule I think the other Von Carsteins and their minions aren't thoughtful.
>>164362691
For what possible reason would anyone choose not to play on Ultra unless their computer is a potato?
>>164364164
>>164363467
>waifu shit in twg
for fucks sake
fuck CA for making warhammer TW
>>164364681
yeah, it was specific to Vlad. He ruled with an iron fist. Konrad was too crazy and Manny doesn't give a shit.
Also, the Lahmian vampire line tend to be pretty good about keeping their pets living in a cushy lifestyle
>>164364913
People were waifuing the advisers in Rome 1, Empire, and Shogun 2, man.
>>164363884
>>no bandits
Literally bullshit, only Vlad ever gave enough of a shit to actively protect the peasantry from brigands
Now the fact that no one in Sylvania has anything worth stealing is another matter entirely.
>>it's safe as fuck all around
Literally what the fuck are you talking about? The Sylvanian countryside is positively CRAWLING with wolves, giant bats and worse things.
The hordes of undead don't protect the humans, they don't give a fuck about them and the ghouls especially prey on the human population on a massive scale
You literally don't know what you're talking about, your entire post is a fucking meme you've memed up in your head.
>>164364913
dude it's 2017
Which total war game has the best cavalry charges?
I like how everyone on forums everywhere is arguing over if the old friend shit is midenheim, when its actually just a zoomed in fucking pic of middenheim that was used in an old ass book.
>>164364967
Ghouls only prey where crypts and cemeteries are left unchecked.
That means, Brettonian lands and other living parts of the Empire.
I just got Attila TW.
I'm playing as the huns, am I supposed to declare war on everyone? It's not my first TW game but I don't really know what I'm doing. I played Medieval 2 and Shogun 2 before but I think I only won one campaign and I probably played those games for like 200 hours each. I never learned how to play.
Also do you think they will add the tomb kings to warhammer total war?
>>164364967
>>164364681
I was refering to Vlad's rule, and since he's alive in TWW...
>>164365271
Alive and bending knee to Mannfred, the TRUE von Carstein.
>>164365262
>Also do you think they will add the tomb kings to warhammer total war?
>>164365262
Tombs Kings will come out before the first expansion.
I still have hope.
TIL that if you play with a friend who doesn't have an SSD on Grand Campaign you will have a horrible, horrible time.
>>164365475
>It's a "Load times so long that your friend times out when entering a battle with you" episode
Tell me about Karl Franz. Why did he destroy the Reikland?
>>164365734
Because Sigmar is weak.
>>164365271
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Sylvania
>Sylvania is safe as fuck
>It's just serfs being too retarded and superstitious to know any better
lol
You're probably right that they wouldn't be better off in any other Imperial county, but Sylvania is by no means better than any other region.
>>164365471
I don't have the game yet but I'll buy the complete edition eventually. I really hope the tomb kings will be playable in the future, they are one of my favorite factions.
>>164365309
Manny pls, you have to be at least 5'5 to be considered a ruler.
>>164365865
Right now? It isn't better. Vlad made sure the people of Sylvania loved him. Konred was probably as bad as Otto. Mannlett doesn't give a shit.
Where are my /Lizardboys/ at?
>>164365475
>spending 340 seconds loading every time someone wants to fight a battle
>stuck looking at an empty map for 170 seconds
>can't even tab out during his loading or it desyncs
>takes 5 hours to reach turn 20
>>164365952
DO NOT MOCK ME
>>164364913
CROM GO TO HELL
>>164364913
you're new here, right?
>>164365475
>>164366035
I don't have an SSD but when processing turns for Warhammer it only takes me around 10 seconds. Getting into battle only takes around 30. I have a pretty toaster PC too, so I can still upgrade and it'll load even faster.
What is the best mod for Medieval 2?
>>164366019
>Lizardmemes
I hope you like genocide, because you'll get one
How well does priest encourage dissent work in Attila?
I just tried it on a town with -40 public order and it feels like it didn't do anything even though it was a success.
>>164366727
Radious
>>164367007
>trying to hurt the AI economically or through public order
Attila is literally the worst game in terms of cheating bullshit AI.
>>164366996
>filthy rodent really thinks he can beat the power of meme magic and the mighty kek
>>164303656
Rollerino
>>164365147
It's just a zoomed in picture of an Empire building, not Middenheim.
>>164367260
Which fags fled in their flying temples because they had no chance against the under-empire?
Who are these guys and how do I kill them?
>>164367408
>Who are these guys
pure swag
>and how do I kill them?
you don't, they kill you
>>164367408
A better question would be why don't these guys have AP damage on their missile damage?
>>164367548
Because they're a tier 1 unit and would be way, way too good if they did?
Stirlands Revenge is good enough to be worth using even in late-game because of their AP damage.
>>164332532
I'm a fan of kams faster battles
>>164367408
>shit stats
>how do I kill these guys
>>164367408
>how do I kill them?
Chosen, the answer is always Chosen
>>164367548
Balance and only handguns I guess is the excuse
>>164367870
So I'll be fine attacking them?
>>164367951
I'm not chaos
>>164332532
I remember playing the SPQR mod for Rome 1 and spending an hour in a battle. I miss unit mass.
so have they said no dlc this January since bretonnia is in February or is there hope yet for new content in the interim?
>>164367991
>So I'll be fine attacking them?
Use infantry with shields if you have it, or try to get them with armored cavalry
You can also outshoot them with most dedicated skirmish units
The more I think about the more I find the addition of vlad retarded as fuck
First,if mousillon gets out, we gonna have 5 fucking vampire lords in the game, which is more than any faction will ever get apart from the empire
Second, it makes mousillon a so-so addition since its yet another fucking vampire free addition, and one without special units at all
Third vlad is fucking dead
>b-b-but azhag too!
Vlad died before franz coronation, azhag didnt
>>164367991
>I'm not /fit/
What are you a pussy?
>>164368039
The absolute most we can hope for this month is The White Dwarf to become free for everyone
>>164368039
They haven't said anything yet because they are all on holiday. I doubt we're getting anything until Bretonnia though.
>>164367991
>So I'll be fine attacking them?
As Empire I've slaughtered countless units of them with my quarrelers. I usually have around 6 units of them in an army and they tear the free company lads apart. They're not good in melee either.
As VC I've farmed many a rebel army and just kill them with the flying purple guys.
>>164368105
What if Mousillon is a VC sub faction kinda like Crooked Moon, but with a unique Bretonnian twist to their army/building list?
>>164368105
Chaos will be worse in that regard.
>nurgle LL
>khorne LL
>Tzeentch LL
>demon prince lords
>greater demon lords
>god's champions lords
Shit's gonna be cash
>>164368301
like what?
an army roster with scrawny pezants?
>>164368301
I've always wanted this twist for the vamps though,
Like when you travel to a battle site to raise units say the battle was between dwarfs and greenskins. It'd be cool as hell for the zombies or skeletons raised from that battle site be a combo of orc and dwarf. Is there a mod for this yet? Its way too much ambition and coding for CA to bother with it so im hoping some anon pulls through.
>>164368417
Basically just the city of the damned mod thats on the workshop that Mousillon anon made, but with a bit more polish and unique buildings that doesn't necessarily link them with Sylvania.
>>164368301
It should have been Mousillon from the beginning instead of Kemmler and Ghorst, who plays as those fucks??
>>164368143
Because /fit/ is a fucking cesspool
>>164368409
More like, its gonna be 3 different demon lords and thats it
>>164368182
>>164368079
I did it, but it wasn't pretty. This game is hard.
>>164303656
This game is gay though
>>164303604
rollerino
>>164368841
you shit the bed son
I'm coming back to Warhammer after not having played it since the Beastmen DLC came out. I played the shit out of it though when it launched.
Are there any mods that I should make sure to download? I remember there being a few small quality of life ones that were amazing but I forget what they were.
>>164368978
I tried to skirmish with the shooty horses but it didn't work .-.
>>164368841
You need more crossbows and less pistoliers
In fact Pistoliers are pretty fucking bad, consider getting rid of them all together.
And replace your spears with the shielded variant if you can afford it.
Also get some Empire Knight/Reiksguard when you can
>>164369070
I'll try, but I think I need to research or build something to get them.
>>164369001
The ones I use:
>better ai recruitment
>better combat camera (I like that better than the debug camera)
>instant quest items (if you want that)
>chaos cosmetics
>less blood less gore (I have that mostly deactivated though)
>>164368841
>greatsword
>1 kill
Oh shit nigger what are you doing
>>164368813
>implying the last expansion won't ship with chaos demons faction, khorne faction and a Chaos warriors update.
>>164369271
>what are you doing
I don't know I just got this game
>>164369043
>>164369070
This dont bother with the pistoliers, if you had crossbows instead you would have slaughtered that army as you would have outranged their militia
>>164369271
Yeah but I dont know what makes you think we gonna get more than 2 lords per chaos faction
Chaos Warriors might get one more edgy faggot
>>164369271
>greatsword
>1 kill
they probably spent most of their time fighting the lord
>>164369462
I hope we do because Sigvald is shit
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
>>164359552
Yeah buy Warhammer....I'm srs the diplomacy works pretty well.
>>164369647
Todbringer has a hard on for free company miltia and flagellant spam in my games.
>>164369647
>attacking Middenland
for what purpose? Your meant to go shank Marienburg after the Seccesionists, then deal with Skullmunchers and the Crooked Moon Gobbos before confederating some of the southern electors and kicking Manlet von Carsteins shit in.
The northern electors are your buffer between Chaos and Norse
>>164369647
Get the 'better ai recruitment' mod
>>164369647
hhheheheheheheSeriously though, get rid of the Pistoliers
Honestly I don't think you'll have TOO much trouble with that battle, all your infantry is shielded so the free company will do minimal damage
>>164369870
>Your meant to go shank Marienburg after the Seccesionists
Not him but why should everyone always play the campaign the same way?
It's funny how everyone complained that regional occupation railroads the campaign when most players railroad it themselves
>>164369647
Just install army composition mod, anon. I waited on it for way too long but did it in the end. It really does improve you experience. Like seriously, it's a genuine advice.
>>164369259
I have Better Camera Mod installed, any idea if that one is better or worse than better Combat Camera ?
>>164369870
It said on one of the things that there were reinforcements to the secessionists from Middenland
>>164370043
Just try around, I used one camera mod but got problems with some maps, now I'm using another one.
There are so many camera mods out there I can't say which one's the best
FRANZ TAKE THE DELEGATES
>>164369982
that's a fair point, but if he's already having a hard time no reason to make it harder. As it stands going north weakens the overall defences against the chaos invasion, and risks massively overextending yourself versus Manlet and Tree Hitler. And Skarsnik can become a big problem to some games
>>164369991
why has AI army composition been so shit since Rome 2?
>>164370149
Absolutely true but I still think the campaign shouldn't always be played the same way, that gets boring fast
>>164369924
I didn't do well
>>164370335
You'll get better eventually, just keep playing.
Also watch PartyElite's beginner guide:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dQ-y4Xomdw&list=PLwVftHdWAdHNOJ-PMquSZMVVAGWIq2TVQ
Whoa whoa whoa, what's this about SSD's & campaign load times?
Do I just need the OS on the SSD or do I need to fit Steam & the game on there as well??
>>164370427
Just a steam library with the game on the SSD, more than doubles the loading speed (went from about 25 seconds to 10 seconds)
>>164370335
How?
>>164320431
>trying to lose it
>not posting an army there to smash the rebels every turn for free xp
>not pumping out stacks of veterens to conquer the world
>not pumping out stacks of plebs to go tarpit the enemy while your veterens flank and murder everyone
it's like you don't even want to be a dystopian empire
>>164370680
Sounds like persia
>>164370629
I'm not good
I know that a lot of people seem to be triggered by the cost and the amount of DLC this game has since release, but as someone who hasn't played in months, it's actually pretty neat how much free content is in the game. I like that despite not actually owning the Wood Elves I can still fight against them, and there are new free VC and Empire lords, as well as the Savage Orcs.
Shit guys it doesn't look good for me
>>164370821
That's what you get for messing with Tod the Rod
>>164370863
He fucking messed with me by supporting separatists
Dude is a traitor to the crown
> FLC in February
But where is the DLC?
Oopes I accidentally won
And now he wants out
BORDER PRINCES WHEN!!!???
>>164371264
Maybe some Bretonnia vs. Greenskins LL pack?
Maybe no more DLC until the next game in may or junebut probably later?
>>164371368
>I accidentally won
kek, you should play Bretonnia once they're playable
>>164366996
>>164366019
>teleports behind both of you
NOth1ng personnel, kidZ
>>164303656
Rolling for not shit
>>164303656
Rawlin
Which faction has the best mounts and why is it chaos?
>Manticores
>Chaos Dragons
Oh thats the shit
>>164366019
FUCK I can't wait to see Slann blowing shit up in multiplayer but I reckon Skaven will be more irritating in the campaign than Beastmen or Wood Elves.
>>164371819
> not zombie horses & spectral steeds
Please.
How's Napoopan?
Man, I wish you could see what soldier exactly is the general in a generals bodyguard.
It's way too hard to find the individual model.
>>164363325
>>164363467
>tfw you'll never be the stocky, young farmer boy who gets used as a glorified bloodbag by the local Von Carstein babe.
>tfw you'll never be seduced with vampire magics and turned into a thrall
>>164372365
good but feels a bit old after all the new features from Rome II onwards, especially in battle (drawing the march route of a unit or moving them by holding Alt)
THE AIR WAS FILLED WITH SMOKE AND BLOOD
What in the fuck is this?
mobin autism
get cringe protection
http://orig11.deviantart.net/6935/f/2017/002/3/4/moblin_guideexc_by_undyingnephalim-datx7fg.pdf
What the fuck is this? Unbreakable? How the fuck do I defeat these guys if I can't break them?
>>164373460
you have to make a beautiful carpet
>>164369001
Sadly a lot of the smaller ones have been abandoned due to the modders having to re-update that modes every time TWW updates.
What I've been using though is "Building Progression Icons" "Home Region Movement Bonus" "Lokerian's Better AI"
And the rest are just skin packs to give things like the empire/Mousillon more unique looks. Or stuff like "The Southern Realms" to make those sub factions more interesting.
>>164373460
You kill every one of them down to the last man.
>>164373460
I wanna see your army
>>164369870
>toddbringer sends an army to kill you off.
>not shoving his one eyed head on the highest spire in ulricsberg.
>>164373460
By killing them?
>>164373375
M O B L I N S
>>164373070
This happens when they lose every male faction leader.
>>164373609
>>164373070
>104
>>164373070
>woman
>unreliable
>rebellious
>opportunist
>low strength ranking
what's your problem, everything seems right to me
Reminder that the next TW game will be announced in ~3 months since Attila was announced 11 months after Rome II
>>164370797
Also beastmemes make early game empire more fun
>>164374170
Yeah, after spending about 2 hours playing the beastmen I've found that I really don't like their early game gameplay whatsoever, but at the same time I could see the existence of them making other factions a lot more enjoyable.
HOW DO i KILL LORDS?
>>164374234
you gotta spend 3 hours, or however many hours until you get minotaurs, then just have a full stack of minotaurs, then you will have fun.
either way, it is nice to have a faction that makes pistoliers somewhat useful. I just wish they spawned more and started at war with the welves and prioritized taking them on a bit to curb their unstoppable blitz through brettonia.
>>164373070
>opportunist
She'll take dick for the tribe :^)
>>164372992
And behold him a red horse
>>164374272
Other lords, heroes built to kill enemy heroes, big strong units with AP damage.
>>164374272
Franz. Karl Franz
>>164374272
Let daddy Franz do the work
>>164374272
Handgunners
Your own lords
>>164373991
>actually believing that
please stop disappointing yourself
>>164374486
>>164374565
i chose the magic man
>>164374609
U wat?
>>164374591
>Handgunners
this, they deal really good damage against lords
>>164374651
i chose the magic man
>>164374609
A normal lord + an Empire Captain will usually be able to take on most lords as well.
If not the best option is to try to pelt them with missiles as much as you can manage, especially with Handgunners
In that battle I think you were pretty much fucked, small settlement garrisons will almost always be blown out by proper army with a lord unless you built walls
Remember to build walls in vulnerable settlements by the way, your second or third building in all small settlements should almost always be walls
I wish empire captains and any other heroes where it would be appropriate had an ability called duel, much like assasinate, but instead of a success killing them, a success just had you duke it out on a small battle map, 1 on 1.
GONNA STAB
>>164303604
We need to have more LL so that all races are equal in numbers. Let's have 4 for each, like Dwarfs, Greenskins and Vamps.
Empire - Boris Todbringer
Beastmen - Taurox
Warriors of Chaos - Valkia
Wood Elves - Ariel, Araloth
Bretonnia - Morgiana le Fay, The Green Knight, Tancred?
>>164374609
ya shouldnt have done that.
But seriously, tool up either an Empire Captain (make sure you give him a Pegasus) or Witch Hunter for combat. they'll do the job fine. You'll still be able to get Franz, just not right away. He's a beast once he hits level 15 and gets Deathclaw
>>164374836
Brass bull fucking when?
>>164374836
Ariel isn't a character with stats and Araloth is a boring faggot that no one likes
We also already know that the third lord for Bretonnia with be Duke Alberic of Bordelaux
>>164330772
Literally blind speculation
>>164374836
>Green Knight
>Commanded armies can use worldroots
>>164374836
>Valkia
BEST
WAIFU
>>164374917
She is. Or was.
And if not Araloth then who? Drycha? Sisters of Twilight? Oh.... Sisters would be cool.
>make human enemies fuck off
>orcs and beastmen raze my shit
I can't get a fucking break
>>164374836
>Let's have 4 for each
And then there will be the Red Duke as a big fuck you and give Vamps 5 LL's.
We'll never have an equal amount of LL's for every faction I guess
>>164375121
>That fucking face
Oh 90s GW
>>164375151
Playing the Empire is sufferingbut the good kind
>>164375264
Do I have to worry about the population of my towns I'm recruiting from?
>>164375264
Aye, I'd suffer it all just to serve under a man like Franz
>>164375291
no.
I'm about to play as the Savage Orcs for the first time, any basic tips?
>>164375295
Do you think he's a homosexual?
>>164375225
I haven't seen a single miniature company that doesn't fuck up female faces.
>>164375416
I don't know or care about the Emperor's love life, lad. I just know a great leader when I see one.
>>164312094
one brettonnia is out I guess.
>>164375416
He has wife and two kids.
>>164375295
>not Gelt, who will reward your dedication with mountains of gold AND will actually support you in combat
>>164375396
restart if grimgor confederates teef snatchaz by turn 10
>>164375543
he wouldn't be a good leader if he was homosexual.
>>164375883
alex was.
>>164375938
>alexander
>good leader
>>164331906
I like how the trees dont' look like old grumpy fucks in warhammer universe.
They are like fucking nightmare devils, that one tree with 6 eyes.
>>164375991
well he led mountain niggers to pillage more advanced civilizations than his own.
Hey, I fixed my mod. You can recruit Blazing Sun Knights at the Komturie now.
Total War: Warhammer is the quintessential eulogy for Warhammer Fantasy.
>>164375938
At worst he was bisexual, but the only account of his homosexuality is Roman and they were desperate to smear the hellenes. We also know homosexuality was an offence in Macedonia in Philips time.
>>164376163
>quintessential eulogy
speak english white boi
>>164376207
>they were desperate to smear the hellenes
Alexander was admired by quite a few leaders and generals
>>164376354
> Quintessential: representing the most perfect or typical example of a quality or class
> Eulogy: a speech or piece of writing that praises someone or something highly, especially a tribute to someone who has just died.Age of Sigmar
>>164376354
It's the "Hey, hey, hey goodbye" song my african compatriot
>>164376539 new thread
>>164376539 new thread
>>164376539 new thread
>>164376424
He was but the Romans basically described the greek culture as 'oriental' and thought of it as degenerate. It was a form of propaganda same with how they described carthage even though it was more honourable and less promiscuous than Roman culture.
>>164362691
not only ultra, I play ulta + large sized units
I don't get why you would play smaller battles in a MASSIVE WAR GAME, why do you ruin you inmmersion senpai?
>>164374917
Araloth is a boring faggot, but he unfortunately is probably a shoe-in for a 3rd lord for the Wood Elves.
I'm hoping Sisters of Twilight will be the 4th though, as they would make for an interesting one.
>>164375883
>atheist, gay and a genius
>10 ways Fredrick the great was ahead of his times
>t. Buzzfeed