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TQ doesn't actually understand game mechanics edition

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>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
GENERAL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wyz3Ye1g
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/GHStmm22

>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png

>Notable links
Essentials: http://deathsnacks.com/wf/index.html
Focus System: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Focus
Buying and Selling items: https://warframe.market
News: https://forums.warframe.com/forum/170-news-events/
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Damage 2.n: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
Droptables and Data: https://github.com/VoiDGlitch/WarframeData
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2 (not maintained)
Top guns, read note at the bottom: http://i.imgur.com/wrTz2r2.jpg
Tierqueer Filters: [Gist] Tierqueer Filters.md


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CURRENT UPDATE: The Glast Gambit
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/738152-the-glast-gambit-update-195/
CURRENT PRIME ACCESS: Valkyr
> https://forums.warframe.com/topic/723544-the-war-within-1907-valkyr-prime/
Older stream footage: http://pastebin.com/LkZRPteU
liestream highlights: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Livestreams
For specific liestream highlights, use http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Devstream_## (replace ##)
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/wfg/ OP pastebin, if it's not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/iAgtMahh
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>>164287006
I want to make Worm a spoiled little daughteru
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Not first for mods are too busy eating tendies to ban TQ and get rid of her shitposting
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>Tfw a lonely, new-ish, weak shitter
>Have to ask region chat for help in some missions
>The people that help are sometimes some really fun peole to talk to while playing
This is fun, maybe I should join a clan or something
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Where's the filter?
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Happy New Years
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>>164287270
Fucked up when copying it.
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Why does Trinity Prine have a tramp stamp above her crotch? Why does it look like an arrow pointing downwards too?
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>>164287336
Because that's what (you) want to see.
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>>164287336
Because she's a heal/energy bitch for the squad.
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>>164287336
Because she refuels her Blessing reserve with semen
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[Heavy Breathing]
The plans jumped up to 250p in one night. Fuck.
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what do solid unrolled rivens usually go for?
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>>164287729
I still bought one for 200 earlier
Maybe I should try buying and reselling them
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So it's safe to say most if not all of you never had the faggot filtered.
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>>164287847
I don't bother with filters on 4chan unless it's a trip. Too much work.
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>>164287847
i usually ignore him, like i do most posts. i do the same in other generals with undesirables
more recently i've been reporting/hiding
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>>164287761
what the fu*k is this image
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>>164287908
This, and if you really cared about it you could just ignore him but it seems to be an impossible task for everyone who claims to hate his shitposting
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>>164287971
You are sitting in one general with these people.
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>>164288074
what you mean these people
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>fucking around in pacifist snowball matches
cross-team camaraderie through disdain for a shitty mode

do stratos marks even do anything besides increment the marks on the emblem?
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Can anyone that's used Mesa a bit more than I have give me some pointers on building her for her 2+3+4? This is what I've got so far.
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>>164288265
on the right track, just get more of the same
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>>164288321
Is there a balance I need to strike? I'm pretty sure it's simply 'hit the eff cap with as much strength as you can fit'
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Nekros P build pls
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>>164288435
I haven't gotten around to loading forma onto my Nekros yet, but the missing mod here is Health Conversion. Obviously everything else needs to be maxed too. I believe this will make him fairly tanky, but I haven't been able to test it yet.
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>>164288372
pretty much, but exceeding the need for dur beyond the cost floor gets you a longer sg/ss as a small bonus
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How do penises even work in warframe porn, if it's supposed to be humanoids inside of a suit most of the time?
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>>164288506
fug
Am also missing Exlilus, but honestly I don't know what to put in there. Probably Coaction Drift

>>164288550
Thanks. I'll work on it. Maybe take a gander in wfbuilder or something
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>>164288117
>second snowball match
>all the shitters leave, because they can't aim for shit
>me and 1 chill Mirage on the other team are all that's left
>just handshake, emote spam, and chat with each other to pass the time.
Pretty comfy. He stayed with me until we completed our 3rd match, where we were in the same team, so we just destroyed everything.
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>>164288265
>Literally any aura that isn't CP
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>>164288562
have you not finished the Second Dream quest?
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>>164288607
Quests are boring.
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>>164288607
I didn't play in a year or so, at the time the Operator shit wasn't out yet if that is what you're referring to. I'm waiting for the right time to update and hopefully my toaster will be able to handle the game still. Anyway what about that quest?
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>>164288867
warframes are basically living flesh remote control VR sex toys
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>>164288550
So I finished a mock-up in wfbuilder, ended up with pic. The extra duration sounds nice, but would it be worth it to pop more damage on there instead? I'm thinking either Energy Conversion or Intensify, but I'll get to testing it eventually I guess. If I can't use either I suppose Constitution would be the best choice.
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>>164288963
Oh ok cool
Yeah that explains how those dicks work
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>>164288963
>>164289170
Oh I forgot to ask, are they just pieces of meat or do they feel emotions etc? The way Lotus refers to each, like the quotes on the wiki, makes me think they have a personality. But idk
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>>164289216
good question! why don't you ask steve or becca on twitter, because there are some pretty fucking major glaring holes in the plot and nature of frames in that regard specifically, especially with mirage and limbo
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>>164289216
The most we can say is there's some small spark of self-preservation they display during a moment in Second meme but even that could have been the influence of the tater through proxy.

The quests for Limbabwae and Mirage were also written before Second Meme's reveal so those may not even be canon anymore. Certainly a lot riding against it than supporting it anyway.
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how is weapon usage on your profile determined? time spent in-mission like time played? missions completed? I'm pretty sure it's not XP earned, but that in itself is often broken
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>>164288265

Pretty much the right track. I run with this: http://warframe-builder.com/Warframes/Builder/Mesa/t_30_3244322030_2-3-10-5-7-5-12-5-10-34-8-5-49-2-10-55-4-5-411-6-10-479-1-10-481-0-10-615-9-5_481-7-479-7-49-8-2-6-55-6-12-8-411-8-5-9-34-14-615-9_0/en/1-0-31

6 Forma though.

>>164288587

Not bad but since you're running a Despoil build it might be worth looking at Energy Conversion over Transient Fortitude since you should be able to nab an Energy orb between castings and that ups your Shield power almost as much without a reduction to power duration.

For the Exilus slot I'd go Cunning Drift to get a little bit of extra Despoil and Shield range, or Power Drift if you want to make up the little bit of power strength you lose from a Transient Fortitude -> Energy Conversion swap.
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>>164289436

AFAICT, time spent with it equipped in missions.

I suspect it's broken though because my profile shows Rhino, Soma, and Carrier as my most-useds even though I haven't touched any of those for almost a year and a half.
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has anyone else noticed something odd about nullifiers recently? I swear when I'm trying to pop the bubble, about halfway through it just holds where it is until I wait a fairly long time (like almost or exactly long enough for it to start growing back out) or switch weapons
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>>164289751
this is what I'm assuming, broken like the xp tracking and so many other little features in this game
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>>164289436
Just checked my primaries. First three are all different.
Pretty sure it's literally just time spent using.

>>164289663
I never actually thought about that. Good idea, thanks.

Anyone got an unranked Blind Rage I can trade off of them for a Narrow Minded or something? I just realized I don't have another one, and I need a R5 BR for my build.
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>>164289751
Have you spent more time as any singular frame than you did as Rhino? Time since you last used him is pointless, I mean if you spent one hundred hours as Rhino then spent two hundred evenly split between Chroma, Nova, Valkyr and Oberon; Rhino'd still be your most used.

>>164289775
Yes, DE broke them yet again.
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>>164289915
this is a good point, loki is still my most used frame because I used him for a good year or so before getting loki prime (and well after because I was so attached and didn't like how prime looked) but I haven't used him at all in about a year now
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>>164289915
I have over 1.5k hours in this game.
Carrier P's at 38%
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>finally get a decent amount of focus from a mission
>host migration
>returning to menu

are they ever going to fix this retarded system?
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something im (playing with) working on to look at the effect of a riven mod before accepting it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TjvkHJibS6hXVKjsfSHnOgd9AQXtEjrX3qaiLvUqTiU/edit?usp=sharing
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>>164289915

>Have you spent more time as any singular frame than you did as Rhino?

Rhino P, easily.

Played it much more often than normal Rhino and have way more kills and XP on it.

Nova P would have to be getting up there too.
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>>164289775
I thought it was my shit ping in the last matches were I dealt with them. I did not notices anything weird while playing solo, though, so I dont know how that works.
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>>164289890

>I never actually thought about that.

It works great on Nekros because you can about guarantee you'll get an energy orb between castings.

It's replaced Transient Fortitude on a lot of my channeled builds but it's especially great on Nekros.

I wouldn't use it over TF everywhere but it has a niche and is, I think, under-appreciated. Probably because of the amount of Simaris rep you need to get it and the bonus being not as immediately as obvious as that of Health Conversion. +Armour is something completely new, +Power Strength is on a bunch of things.
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>>164290247
might well be client-only, like a lot of sleek
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>>164290071

>are they ever going to fix this retarded system?

It's Warframe, so guess.

Go on, guess.
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>>164290071
>Farming focus with randoms
You deserved it.
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>>164290346
They still haven't even fixed the audio in capture missions, have they?
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>>164290548
>tfw you do void fissure capture missions and lotus never shuts up
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>>164287971
>fu*k
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>>164290603
>tfw she talks during excavation missions and her portrait cover up the extractor info
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>post ad in Trade that is barely formatted
>nothing
>repost it
>nothing
>format it neatly
>instantly get a buyer
Is this the secret to trade?
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>>164290816
Post before and after

Im sure ive had similar results
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6 names infested doggo
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>>164290987
Assman
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>>164290987
ol' Slappy
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I'm in holidays, what's this infested dog shit ?
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>>164290987
Clem
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>>164290987
IPozzedMyPooch
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>>164289751
My profile still shows Kunai Mk.1 as the most used secondary.
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>>164291206
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>>164291206
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>>164291206

To be fair to Steve he does seem to take things on-board when he interacts with the players.

There just seems to be an echo chamber going on at DE (unsurprising, it happens with every company) so all that needs to happen is getting him away from that long enough and you get a good result.

I still remember that time he guest starred on Prime Time and the whole thing turned into a live bug/feedback report. He looked gutted by the end of it because he'd seen that what he'd intended to do hadn't worked, and to their credit they actually made a lot of good changes based on that.

Wish it would happen more but if I were him I wouldn't fancy that sort of ego-beating on a regular basis either.
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>>164287298
Do people really think that Skin looks good? I thought you were posting it as a joke at first, but you keep posting it so I am starting to think that you're not joking.
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>>164290987
Askarid
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>>164292176
It's almost like people can have different tastes. Absolutely shocking stuff, I know.
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>>164292289
Understanding that people have different tastes doesn't excuse bad taste.
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>>164292378
Do you really think your trip looks good? I thought you were using it as a joke at first, but you keep using it so I m starting to think you're not joking.
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>>164292419
New to 4chan, I see. A trip code isn't supposed to look good. It is simply supposed to be a unique identifier. It is automatically generated based on the pass code you use.
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Anything I can swap out on this Akstiletto build other than swapping Frostbite for Jolt when I get it? Alternatively I could replace it with Pathogen rounds for more corrosive procs I guess, but that'd need another Forma.
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>>164292545
Do you really think your name looks good? I thought you were using it as a joke at first, but you keep using it so I m starting to think you're not joking.

Happy now, you fucking mouthbreather?
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>>164289216
the people who originally created the warframes called the golems piloted by devils.

So they are usually machines of dead meat and metal.

But when an operator transfers his mind into the warframe, it's possible he might get traces of the warframes former personality.

but what does it matter, you're most likely a futafag who'll take out of it what he can and run with it for a shitty fapfiction.
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>>164292027
good post
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??
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remember, secure tripcodes are for jerks
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>Hema research still not completed

Fucking warbros shitter clan get to it already. I already contributed 2,000 myself.
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>>164292027
[DE]Steve just needs to sit down and actually play the game an hour or two on his free days off just to see what needs to be done and what needs to be fixed and added.

Nidus is actually a step in the proper direction when it comes to Warframe design, since he scales amazingly throughout all stages of the game.
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>>164292760
>look guys I use filters I am so cool please pay attention to me
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>>164292679
I think they are basically Zombies (infested) piloted by Demons (10-O). The 10-O seem like the made a deal with the Devil to become Demons, and the Void is basically Hell.

>>164292603
Yes, that's much better. words have meanings for a reason.

It's a running gag. Also, it's kind of funny that you call me a mouth-breather when you can't even use words or punctuation properly.
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>>164292562

I'm not super into punch-through on the AkStilettos so I'd put a Primed Heated Charge there.

Would also use Heat as my second element, so after swapping Frostbite to Jolt I'd put Scorch in in place of Stunning Speed too. Or if you like your build, move Frostbite over to where Stunning Speed is and put Jult in its place and max out Seeker.

Won't require any more Forma to do either of those.
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>>164292562
i do this, need 3 formats, it make armor vanish in less than one clip
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>>164292679
>but what does it matter, you're most likely a futafag who'll take out of it what he can and run with it for a shitty fapfiction.
Absolutely outrageous. I DRAW the shitty fapfiction, not write it.
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>>164292976
>current year
>tibetan zen sand garden sharing community corkboard
>muh diction
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>>164287908
>>164288029
>install 4chan x
>click drop-down arrow next to post
>press filter
>filter his tier lists and reaction images

wow so hard
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>>164292976
>Miss one apostrophe
>"lele dude omg u can't use words or punctuation XDDDD"
Neck yourself, my man. Make it easy for us both.
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how do i mod for santi tig and vaykor hek?
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>>164293021
just keep in mind that you're basically making CP
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Quick post Nidus builds
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>>164293148
Good
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>>164293113
Crit for Vaykor Hek
Straigt-up damage for the holy tiger.
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>>164293252
so for holy tiger, is 60/60 elememes are a no no?
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>>164293029
>tibetan zen sand garden sharing community corkboard
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>>164293169
He's not a frame that requires a lot of investment to perform optimally.
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>>164293374
Yeah, because you can't reach the magic 100% status chance before multishot with it. Only use the 60/60 mods on it if you're in the middle of formaing
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>>164293169
Just focus on Str, Range, Health, and Armor. He isn't complicated to build for at all.

Power efficiency and duration are pointless on him.
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>>164293430
>eff
gay build, fucking

>>164293450
i don't really intend to waste even a single forma for this, because the prime variant exists and is top meme gun, just need something that will carry me a bit to my journey for mr13
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>>164277465
>no entropyburst
but why?
I fucking love my supra. I hope some day to get a good riven mod for it.


On an entirely different note, is the market really the only way to get the zarr? I don't wanna spend 225plat on it, but it looks fun.
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>>164293554
Well, in that case you should just use the 60/60 mods if you don't have room for anything else.
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>>164293001
Yeah the punch through is just a QoL thing, mainly for infested ship maps. I'll just have to wait until Baro actually shows up with Jolt, until then I'll run corrosion + blast or something.

>>164293007
Are the crits worth shooting for then?
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>>164293554
Efficiently helps you stack faster.
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>>164293570
>On an entirely different note, is the market really the only way to get the zarr?

buy the blueprint, make drakgoon, feed kurwa and drakgoon into zarr
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>>164293113

Sancti Tigris: http://warframe-builder.com/Primary_Weapons/Builder/Sancti_Tigris/t_30_23302200_167-7-3-175-2-5-178-4-5-264-3-3-330-6-3-359-1-5-482-0-10-546-5-5_482-7-359-6-175-6-264-7-178-8-546-6-330-7-167-9/en/2-0-86

Feel free to add more Forma and use full Elementals instead of the Event mods. I like the added Status chance given its Slash bias, YMMV. Also swap the elements according to enemy faction.

Vaykor Hek: http://warframe-builder.com/Primary_Weapons/Builder/Vaykor_Hek/t_30_22302220_167-7-3-168-1-5-170-2-5-175-3-5-178-4-5-480-5-10-482-0-10-546-6-5_482-7-168-5-170-6-175-11-178-8-480-7-546-6-167-9/en/2-0-81

If you don't have Primed Ravage I believe that you need to build for pure damage to compete with a Scattered Justice normal Hek's DPS.

Also feel free to ditch Seeking Fury for something else. I'd like to use Chilling Reload more but the Punch-Through/Reload combo on Seeking Fury is quite nice.
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>>164293148
>draw warframe porn
>it's like CP
???
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>>164293624
>Are the crits worth shooting for then?
since you can have a lot of multishot on secondaries, above 30% crit is still a good dps increase
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>>164290816
when I look for specific things in trade I skim through it looking for specific qualities, due to the amount of shit that flies through there, I'm pretty sure it is.
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>>164292027
a reasonable post on /wfg/.
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happy new year anons...i made..this thing.
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>>164292858
which is excatly the solution to appease both crowds, ones that cry that the game is too easy on mercury and ones that play infinite missions
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>>164293812
Looks good.
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what to aim for when building niggus? just power str?
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>>164293812
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>>164293827
>ones that cry that the game is too easy on mercury and ones that play infinite missions
I can't gauge sarcasm over the internet, anon. Who complains that the game is too easy on mercury?
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>>164293660
thank you my ally
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>>164292027
Nah, he is arrogant and self-righteous.

>>164293910
That and range + armor
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Jesus fucking christ get this god-damned reddit bubble off my neck already!

>>164293812
The game doesn't deserve you, man.
You're not the guy pumping out grineer skins, are you?
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>>164293636
desu i've been asking myself, how does the stack work, do you gain from hitting or killing those pieces of shit

well you can stack up but you're gonna have a bad time killing them all despite of its dmg increase every time there is several memes lined up or being sucked by hentai simulor
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>>164293812
Gotta say, that's pretty damn nice anon.
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>>164294058
You gain from hitting enemies with your 1 and if the maggots from your 4 hits them.
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>>164293910

Some range is good for his 1 and the reach on his 2 and 3 even if it doesn't do much for his 4. Some people don't like it because it increases the travel time on his 1 before you can recast it but I find it helps to build more stacks faster.

Steel Fibre is a good bet because he's a health-only frame. Rage too for the same reason.

I like building duration for his 3 and 4 too.
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>>164294058
One bar filled and energy return per enemy hit, not killed.
Stacks cap out at 100.
Every stack increases the power strength of all of your abilities.
At 100 stacks, I land 3000 damage 1's.

You get stacks if your maggots kill enemies, but not if they simply attack them.
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>>164293812
When will the action animation trigger? Can you set it up like kill x number of enemies or while using super jump/glide?
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>>164294171
>3000 damage 1's
Oh you sweet child, the damage can go to 60k and above at 100 stacks.
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>>164294221
>60k and above
how
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>>164294171
>3000 damage 1's
jesus just fuck up the efficiency, you can build stacks but you won't survive long for not being able to kill those memes in 2+1 combo

>>164294221
this

>>164294274
abandon all efficiency, just str and range
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>>164294274
Enough power strength to make the base damage 600, which results in 60k damage at 100 stacks.
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>>164294014
yeah that would be me. dont think anyone else from the tennogen community hands around here.

>>164294185
I'm not sure desu. It's all in the hands on DE. I was initally thinking this thing would just kinda "move out" like its breathing every now and then. not sure yet.
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i am doing it good?
http://warframe-builder.com/Primary_Weapons/Builder/Boltor_prime/t_30_40002222_128-3-3-132-6-5-133-1-5-134-4-5-137-7-10-150-5-6-355-2-3-784-0-10_784-8-133-11-355-7-128-7-134-6-150-6-132-8-137-7/en/2-0-44
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>>164294171
doesn't affect the power strength of all your abilities, gives you passive stat bonuses and damage bonus to your 1 only
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>>164294221
>>164294307
>>164294318
Disgusting.
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>>164293812
nice, happy "being part of the problem 2017" to you
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>>164294307
>just str and range

But I cant max str if I slot in over extended.
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>>164294325
will you one day, do a grineer skin for zephyr, with jet engines like on the jatt kittag
i would be so happy
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>>164294491
stretch and cunning drift is enough

http://warframe-builder.com/Warframes/Builder/Ash/t_30_2200244030_2-6-10-4-7-5-6-3-5-12-1-10-19-5-10-34-8-5-59-2-3-411-0-10-479-4-10-613-9-5_411-8-12-8-59-9-6-11-479-7-19-7-2-6-4-9-34-14-613-9_0/en/1-0-1/0
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>>164293148
How is Warframe Porn at all like Corrosive Projection?
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>>164294335

Not too bad.

Might pay to Forma it once more and use Piercing Calibre over Infected Clip though.
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>>164294542
Because it rots away at you from the inside, silly.
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>>164294325
Thanks for making me spend 14bux on this game, man. That ember and volt skin broke me
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>>164293812
>symmetrical
Trash
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>>164294542
Like corrosive projection, it's pretty much required to at least have ready.
Like corrosive projection, it will wear away at whatever 'armor' you have built up around yourself
Like corrosive projection, everyone wants it
Like corrosive projection, (good) porn doesn't show up often enough
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>>164283631
Whirlwind augment would basically be Turbulence. Plenty of 'frames get by without some kind of damage mitigation and her health/shields aren't bad by any means.

Upon reflection, I really don't like the idea of just spamming a crowd of tornadoes, and as much as I like the idea of a controllable one, it just don't sit with me. 3 will fire off a tornado in a direction. It'll have a grabbing range of one meter, and hold and grind any enemies that pass into it. Tail Wind will allow you to wrap the tornado around you as a shield, improved by the amount of damage that it has done to enemies, with the ability to stack multiple tornadoes until you get a perfect shield, with the caveat that refreshing your shield requires you to use a baseline 75 energy ability in conjunction with a baseline 25 energy ability, unlike someone like Rhino who can do it with 50 and has an invulnerability period. Augment will be controllable tornado.

Power Strength would make Storm Eye's deflection property stronger, I'm thinking 25% was probably too low, and 33% would be a better baseline to work with. The idea would be that compared to Bastion, it has no limit on enemies it can bar, but doesn't outright incapacitate them, and unlike Snow Globe doesn't have health to deplete and runs on a timer, but doesn't block all the projectiles. Any Tornadoes spun into it will act as a rotating shield, where in addition to pulling enemies close for a quick slap of damage when it passes by them, it'll also have a 100% chance of blocking all projectiles for as long as the Tornado lasts, but only as it passes by.
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>>164294476
I would like to think of it as the solution.

>>164294675
Wanted it to be a bit squid/crab-ish so made sense to make the model itself geometrical.
It does bring it away from infested a bit but meh.

>>164294649
Sorry man. if it makes you feel better i spent my share on kitten litter.
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>>164293169
this is working really well for me
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>>164295092
Replace Continuity with Armored and agility and Hand Spring with anything else.
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>>164294963

Her armour is a sad joke and her CC is as unreliable as fuck. That means she gets owned the second Turbulence drops in any decently high-level mission.

The biggest issues with Zephyr at the moment are that her Tailwind is meaningless with Parkour 2.0 and Dive Bomb is something that should happen if you aim at the ground and press 1, not be a skill by itself. Tornado isn't just of questionable utility, even when it is working it can make your life and that of the squad's more difficult by flinging the enemy off to god knows where.

That just leaves Turbulence, plus or minus Jetstream and Tonkor.

She's pretty much the definition of a one-dimensional, fuck-you-I-got-mine frame at the moment. All she can do is meme with a Tonkor and be unhittable by three factions, with a tiny niche for defenses if she's willing to hump the defense target the whole time to deflect bullets with Turbulence.

Any changes made in theme with her will still need Turbulence as a damage mitigator. Because, again, CC is unreliable at best, an active detriment most of the time, and she has no other way to stay alive.

I say this as someone with not one but two Zephyrs (also three Oberons because fuck you, I find goatman hilarious) and a stupid-ass Divebomb +Divebomb Augment + Heavy Impact build I drag out for Infested Defence missions on open maps.

She doesn't need to become Loki-tier ZOMGWTFBBQ amazing or anything but her 1 and 2 desperately need to be addressed.
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>>164295195
nah man, continuity makes my parastic link last about 90 seconds and infested grass for about a minute also handspring keeps me from being molested by knockdown spamming shits like every enemy in the game
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>>164295195

>replace your close combat frame's knockdown mitigator and the thing that gives you a usable 3 and 4 with a thing that doesn't make you much tougher, especially since your CC takes a hit and something else

To what end?

>>164295092

I'd probably put Cunning Drift or Power Drift in in place of Handspring but I see why you're using it and the build as a whole is well-rounded for Nidus' kit.
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>>164295195
>Coming from someone who is hated from 3 boards.
yea... nah.
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>>164295436
>>164295510
They already last a fairly long time, and handspring is a crutch. You can avoid most knock downs just by jumping. Just replace them both with constitution if you feel the need.
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I think it should be put in the OP that it is now /wfg/ policy to ignore Tripfags.
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>>164295624
To clarify though, I don't think you need duration at all and would slot Power Drift instead. More power strength + Knockdown resist instead of recovery.
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>>164295624

>my build is superior, your experience and playstyle are irrelevant

No wonder you and TQ get on so well.

Nidus-anon, if it's working for you stick with it. Certainly experiment and tweak a bit but cookie-cutter builds are boring and don't take into account what happens if you don't play exactly the same way as the originator. They can be a good place to start but slavishly following them may or may not work depending on how close your playstyle is to that of whoever made it.
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Does dogposting work on Level 100 Grineer?
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>>164295651
Shouldn't that be common knowledge across all boards?
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>>164287006
Hapy new year, faggots.
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>>164295749
>God king Lucifer
>Lucifer
THERE'S ONLY ONE GOD KING, AND HE'S NOT A KING, BUT AN EMPEROR, ONE OF MANKIND
GET YOUR HERETIC ASS OUT OF HERE
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>>164295779
Here's the thing, you can avoid knockdowns on your own if you don't suck. Therefore, wasting a mod slot to combat them rather than getting good, is a crutch and makes the build objectively worse.
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>>164295819
>0 P L A T
>P
>L
>A
>T
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>>164293450
You can reach the Meme Magic 100% with Nano Applicator or a riven I think
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>>164295919
>avoid knockdowns with tracking scorpions or ancients
>infested moas that are hard to see if they're in a group
you just don't know what you're talking about, outside of mercury getting hit by scorpion or ancient can kill you in seconds
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>>164296027
Oh yeah, that thing exists, but you'd gimp your build too much with Nano. A riven could work, though.
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How long does it take for nightmare missions to refresh. I'm trying to get hammer shot but all I keep getting is trash.
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>>164295919
>Customized his own build to fit his own play style
>Then someone come along saying no because it's doesn't fit that person play style

You really want to be tq on console don't you?
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>>164295919

>don't suck
>still can't do anything about Scorpions and Ancients riplining you from nowhere
>still can't do shit if they're next to a Grineer heavy or Arson eximus who's waiting to spam their knockdowns the second you start to get up
>still get raped
>are more vulnerable to this sort of bullshit on a close-combat frame
>have no shields to help with this, only health

Yeah, nah.

I fully get why he's equipped the mod. It's not what I'd do, it's not what you'd do, but it's not wrong and it doesn't make him a shitter like you're so eager to imply.
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>>164296054
>>avoid knockdowns with tracking scorpions or ancients

You can literally walk to the side to avoid them.

Just jump over the rings moas send out.

>>164296170
You can literally just roll through that shit.
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>>164296167

Wait, he's on console?

That makes him pontificating about Nidus builds even more hilarious.
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>>164295901
Post that Frost build.

>>164295919
I think he's not complaining about being knocked down, he's complaining that if he does get knocked down, which happens on occasions outside of his control, it ends with disastrous results and he dislikes that.
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>>164296170
>hold right mouse button
>don't get knocked down
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>>164296237
and now do the same with other 5 moas off screen with chargers and leapers up your ass

>>164296248
fucking this, handspring is not a crutch it's a bandaid for bullshit enemies
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is the shotgun mod that baru is sellnig worth getting?
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>>164296259

>Ancients, moas, and scorpions just love hitting you one after the other and can do so from off-screen
>lol just go full melee and hold RMB

???
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>>164296340
If you like the Vaykor Hek, yes. If not, no.
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>>164296087
First thing I'm gonna try for with a Kohm Riven DESU. More multishot and enough status to have 40+ pellets that all proc status in the air at once.
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>>164296340
if you like vaykor hek it's great
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>>164296340

Do you have a Vaykor Hek? Are you willing to spend 4 Forma on it? Can you afford to max it out?

If the answer to all three is yes, then by all means grab one.

If not, I'd skip it.
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>>164296248
A special Rift Excavation build.

After stacking buff 1 time becomes great. After stacking 2 times becomes godlike. After stacking 3 times becomes as depicted. His 2 goes through 4-5 tiles. every time he casts 4, he gets 15-20k of ice shielding, while annihilating everything in the surrounding tiles.
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>>164296453
>power drift
>not going even more range since str is already gimped
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>>164296389
Kinda makes me wonder if Kohm follows the same rules of proc chance that other shotguns follow or if every new pellet it gets during the wind-up also carries the same 25% chance.
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>>164296574
Power drift so I can armorstrip after just 1 buff, instead of having to wait for 3. Besides, with 1 buff, his 4 already reaches 50 meters, and if I add more range, the bubble will start getting constantly popped by spawning nulliiers.
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I've only had my operator for 1 day and I already hate him
hearing him and ordis interact make me want to kill myself
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>>164296720
you can turn both of them off from options
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>>164296237
Nidus come to console already?
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>>164296453

>has 55% power strength
>gets 33 additional hp per enemy struck
>15-20K per cast

Literally how.

How are you hitting 500+ enemies in a single cast? The game can't even spawn that many at once.

If you had Blind Rage and TF without Overextended and were hitting for 161.4 ice armour per cast you'd still need to somehow be hitting 100+ enemies per cast to get that.

If it's for excavation, why not just build Globe?
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>>164296836
Each Rift Buff doubles STR and Range you currently have.
1 buff = 110str/338 range
2 buff = 220str/676 range
3 buff = 440str/1352 range
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>>164296951

You do realise the Corruption effect you get is random and probably won't stack due to that and it being on a timer, right?
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>>164297101
>he doesn't know
don't tell him
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>>164297101
>he doesn't know
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>>164296806
No. My main account is on PS4, but I have a PC account too for trying out new shit.
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>>164297161

Oh, I know that it can happen and last forever under certain circumstances.

Also that it's expressly a bug and they intend to fix it.

So again, knowing it's RNG-based and will be removed as soon as they figure out how to do it without breaking other things, what's the point of this over a Globe build again>
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>>164296780
I'm doing some campaign missions now
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>>164295919
>Yesterday say that melee is worthless
>Now you should be going full melee constantly to avoid knockdowns
???
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i thought nidus was immune to cc while linked, why bother with handspring anyway
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Just claimed my Sonicor, do I mod this baby for maximum blast damage or what?
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>>164297586
Not when linked with an ally.
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>>164297420

It's almost as if he just tells people they're WRONG regardless of whether it's actually the case or consistent with the last thing he said.

Oh wait. Not almost, totally.
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>>164297420
Do you have brain damage? When the hell did I say to go melee?
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>>164297636

It has innate ragdoll, no need to build for blast.

Just build pure damage and if that happens to be blast with the elements you're using, then whatever.
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>>164297586
correct. If you're under heavy fire you should be enemy-linked, which nullifies the use of Handspring. If you're NOT under heavy fire you can use ally link instead, but if you're not being attacked handspring is pointless anyway.

In any case, there are a variety of ways to build Nidus and no one best build. However, there ARE some guidelines each Nidus build follows. Check the frame guide for how to build him:

http://pastebin.com/rSmHFVTG

Pic related is what I use, though I've been experimenting with Rage over Intensify
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Aside from better stats and bling what makes a prime frame better than a regular one? Part of me wants to sell for plat so I can get more slots for more frames.
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>>164297815
It feels weird and like a waste to potato and forma non-prime frames, since there will just be an upgrade waiting for you
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>>164297802
I never understood the 45 efficiency. Even if you get energy back, you still chug your entire bar with one press, right? Also that pretty much means you can't use your 2, right?
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>>164297815

More innate polarities, so usually you need less Forma if you're maxing them out.

You gain 250 energy for going near Void sphere traps too.

If slots are an issue I'd keep the Primes and sell the normal ones.
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>>164297815
most of them have an extra/different polarization or two, saving you a forma

most of them look better

they all get free energy in the void (fuck DE for ruining that place) when they run up to death balls

the improved stats do make a difference
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>>164297802
Since when you were part of /wfg/ or anyone here accept it?
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>>164297920

It's TQ, anon. Don't expect logic from his builds.

More sensible option: Pull Overextended and Blind Rage, add Steel Fibre and Rage.
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>>164297745
>he doesn't know
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>>164297920
>Even if you get energy back, you still chug your entire bar with one press, right?
no. It takes 60? energy to cast 1, and once energy refunded that dips close to 20 or 0 or even gain you energy. With Prime Flow, you can cast your 1 eight+ times assuming ZERO refund. That's a huge energy buffer. Using Rage further provides sustainability, though I'm not sold on Rage yet.

>Also that pretty much means you can't use your 2, right?
No, I use it freely. Larva is the cheapest energy skill you can cast (25 base) and a good Larva will refund your energy many times over.

>>164298067
Overextended, BR, and Rage are arguable. Now who's the only saying there's only one good build? But fuck of with Steel Fiber, you should NEVER use SF on Nidus.
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What is the best melee for wukong? plz senpais
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>>164297802
You're an idiot. Continuity is not needed, and wastes a slot. The skills already last a long enough time, and if a maggot gets stuck then it actually hurts rather than helps.

Flow really isn't needed wither because Rage will be much more effective.

It's a playstyle choice but power drift is probably abetter choice too.

You still have no armor mods on him either.

Why do you try to make a guide for others when you have no idea how the game works yourself?
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>>164297802
Please stop trying to force your tier list into /wfg/
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>>164298434
I will when /wfg/ stops being retarded and giving shit advice like Handspring, efficiency, and fucking Rejuvenation on Nidus
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>>164298282
It doesn't matter what weapon you use, 4 only scales off of mods.
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>>164298248

>additional damage resistance on a frame that has decent base armour and no shields is a bad idea

>Now who's the only saying there's only one good build?

Still you since that was what you said with "muh guide."

I merely pointed out a way of doing basically everything your build does with a little less range, a lot more power spammability, and an increase in toughness.
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>>164297802
>so many things wrong

Holy shit. Well at least you somehow managed to get the aura right.
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>Started using the Dex Sybaris recently because it's fun
>1/5 games there's always some dude asking how to get a Dex weapon and they won't shut up
Jesus christ. Most of these dudes are MR19+, too. Too many of these fuckers do nothing but exp farms.
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>>164298506
>/wfg/
Don't confuse Tier Queer with us, please.
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>>164298687

Well when are you gonna upload three irrelevant webms to prove him wrong then huh? Huh?

Seriously I gave up on talking to him. The only reason to engage with him even in passing is if he's giving shitty advice (but I repeat myself, he's giving advice ergo it's shitty) and some poor dumb bastard might actually follow it.
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>>164298506
>Handspring, efficiency, and fucking Rejuvenation on Nidus
He wasn't saying other people should use handspring, he was saying it's what he liked to use.
Efficiency is good on a spam heavy Warframe.
Rejuvenation, I can't really say anything about, it's sounds memey though.
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>>164298679
>90% DR from Link
>37k EHP
>retarded amounts of regen
>AND IF YOU DIE HE AUTO-REVIVES
>"I know what this frame needs, even MORE survivability"
you're fucking dumb.

your build is basically my build except less damage, less range, marginably more spammability, and a complete unneeded increase in toughness
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>>164298506
But the only real retard here is you, if only you stop posting here there will be no retard left in /wfg/.
And everyone agreed on this.
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>>164298717
But anon everything in the fucking game is XP farms
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Nidus's 1 can not be recasted while it travels. It travels at a set rate through its whole distance, with decent punchthrough.

His 2 can not be recast while active, and does not cappture new targets, meaning after all grabbed targets are dead, the rest of duration is wasted, turning into arbitrary cooldown

His 3 has to be recasted regularily unless you are camping

His 4 has preset range and only really works when you manually pop maggots


Now after reading this, rething your build and reevaluate your life choices


>>164298814
>3 irrelevant webms
what
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>>164298687
ah yes, it's a "shitpost without reasons" episode

>>164298837
efficiency isn't needed because of Nidus's unique mechanics
Rejuvenation is fucking garbage. "Hmm this frame already has 73 HP/sec regen, I know, I should mod my aura for +3 more." Fucking dumb

>>164298814
>get into argument about Saryn's effectiveness
>post webm proof to back up my argument
>other side refuses to post any sort of proof
>LOL STOP POSTING WEBM PROOF DON'T YOU KNOW WE JUST SHITPOST THEORYCRAFTING HERE
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>The shitposting begins again
Like clockwork.
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>>164298506
>uhuhuhuhuh, there's only one way to play this game uhuhuhuhuh
>everyone else is wrong, not me
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>>164299057
If you wanna go spammy you better have lower duration (60-50)

If you wanna be spammy you better have range, but not too much, or get arbitrary cooldown that prevents spam

If you dont wanna be spammy you won't get much stacks.

On a frame that is all about stacks.

Now think on how many levels your build is wrong.
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Not this fucking shit again.
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>>164298843

>"I know what this frame needs, even MORE survivability"

Yes, you mong. You're not always chilling on your carpet or linked, and when shit goes sideways (not IF, WHEN, this is WF) it helps a shit ton between his base armour and high health pool.

Even if all it does is prevent you losing 10 stacks from going into undying it's helped. Because that ups your damage from your powers and increases your survivability.

If he plays your build and prefers it to mine, guess how much I care? Have you guessed yet? I literally do not give a shit. As long as it works for his playstyle, behold the field in which I grow my fucks. It is barren.

There is not only one true way, and the only person who acts as though there is is *YOU* with your "read muh guide" and "this is literally the only way to do it, I'ma insult anyone who says otherwise!" shit.
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>>164298837
They are both retarded for different reasons.

>>164298908
This. It makes Health, Armor, and Power Strength his primary focuses. Range is nice too, so that his 2 can catch as many enemies as possible, to make his 1 more efficient.

Duration is pointless. Efficiency is less needed because 1 refunds energy, and with no shields, rage will constantly give you back energy, on top of whatever Zenurik is giving you.
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Like, how can one person be this fucking autistic?
I mean, he has to get off on masochism, right? He gets abused everytime he posts that stupid link, or says his opinion and treats it like fact. I just dont get it.
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>>164298908
Virulence cannot be recast, but I like range on it anyway to hit more enemies, especially with the double-cast. Also functions as pseudo-efficiency since the more enemies you hit, the more energy you get back

Duration for his 2 is irrelevant, whether short or long. You kill everything inside anyway.

His 3 does not need to be recast regularly you dumb retard.

You SHOULD be manually popping maggots since you're spamming the fuck out of 1.
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Should I get Saryn prime, volt prime, or Vauban prime next?
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>>164299268
>ill counterargument you by rpoving you right!
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>>164299290
Get Saryn Prime and trigger Autismolord
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>>164299290
Vauban is the most useful, but Volt is the most fun.
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>>164299175
>You're not always chilling on your carpet or linked
except you should you goddamn fucking retard. How retarded are you that you're unable to maintain a fucking 70s+ or 40s+ ability THAT ESSENTIALLY HAS NO UPKEEP COST?
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>>164299290
Saryn Prime.

Spores + CE = Fun and Effective Dps.
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>>164299057
Despite this place is in 4chan it is very forgiving place and you just push past the limit long time ago.
Have you ever post your shit any where else other than /wfg/? Try it and see how it backfire you.
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>>164299353
I'm not sure I follow
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>>164299424
Thank god you haven't been paying attention to the thread
just get fartqueen, you'll end up getting all three before long anyways
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Will replace Power Drift with Steel Fiber as soon as I'll geet to formatting this faggot again.
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>>164298908

>what

Top of the thread anon.

He posted 3 webms of a Saryn with an Ignis spamming her 1 against 3 factions and dying to the Grineer, then claimed that building her poorly, choosing a bad weapon, and playing with a moronic set of tactics "proved" she was unviable against high-level Grineer.

And offered to back down if anyone proved him wrong, but said proof could only come from being 1-spamming, Ignis-wielding Saryn because anything else would be intelligently using the synergies between her powers, Focus schools, and weapons and therefore cheating.

>>164299057

Dude, I play with pubs a lot. I barely notice not having the CP damage reduction on for most content and slotting Rejuve means I have to stop to scrape them off the floor a lot less often, which in turn means a hell of a lot more pleasant experience for me.

But no, MUH ONE TRUE WAY, READ MAH GUIDE.
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>>164299158
Lower duration is pointless on Nidus, jesus christ what the fuck?
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>>164299290
Volt is a sexy beast. Vauban can be incredibly useful, but I haven't farmed up all the ox I need to finish building his prime version yet so I can't speak for that.
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>Everything goes to shit as soon as the tripfag or TQ posts
Really makes you think.
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>>164299471
Lower duration makes his 2 spammy, which in turn raises the efficiency of his 1, giving you fuckton more stacks than you would get otherwise, which offsets lower duration of his 3 and 4.

tried, tested. If I spam 2 and 1, while upkeeping 3 and 4 constantly, I accumulate stacks considerably faster, as well as killing shit much more efficiently.
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>>164299458
>said proof could only come from being 1-spamming, Ignis-wielding Saryn because anything else would be intelligently using the synergies between her powers, Focus schools, and weapons and therefore cheating.
Stop.

STOP.

I NEVER said "you can only use Ignis saryn against grineer!"

YOU CAN USE LITERALLY ANY SARYN BUILD YOU WANT AGAINST GRINEER. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS POST A WEBM OF OF AS PROOF IT WORKS. THAT'S IT. LITERALLY ANY BUILD. DOESN'T NEED TO BE IGNIS.

Only condition is no shit like Naramon SS, because ANY frame can kill lv100 grineer with SS + Galatine. My fucking oberon can do it. It's not a Saryn build.

REMINDER IT'S A DAY INTO 2017 AND NOBODY HAS YET TO POST EVIDENCE THEIR SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE SARYN WRECKING AGAINST GRINEER
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>>164299383

Yes, because all missions are defences or excavations and therefor offer excellent camping opportunities.

Have you even played this game? You do know that for the vast majority of it you'll be running around like a headless chicken and slaughtering everything in your path rather than sitting in one place, right?

You do understand that mobile combat is the expressed design goal of DE and is why they've made the game like that?
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>decide to check out warframe
>hmm pretty fun game
>lets check out the general
>tripfag lucifer is here

why
just why
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>>164299568
I want this skin now.
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>>164299632
>Lower duration makes his 2 spammy
His 2 goes away once you kill everything inside, are you fucking stupid?

>>164299646
What retarded fucking mission are you where you're constantly running around like a headless chicken? Every single fucking Endless mode has a high degree of camping.
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The rarest extraction and the rarest kuria. Figures that this also came with the final Miter BP that I needed. What a way to end the first session of the new year.
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>>164299726
Don't worry, he doesn't actually play, he just reads the wiki and posts like he knows everything.
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>>164299645
Holy shit, don't start this again. Just fucking ignore the posts or something, because you're swimming into one hook while trying to avoid a different hook.
How hard is it to just ignore it?
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>>164299407
Yeah seriously you guys are pretty cool. I like /wfg/. It's nice here
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>>164299321
>I agree with one single stat that even a monkey can comprehend
>oh looks like you completely agree with my build
?
>>164299645
>when you move the goal post and have to move it back the next day

WEW
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>>164299458
I am convinced this is just TQ samefag false flagging.

>>164299646
Except, you are constantly moving from point to point in extraction, and in defense missions, the point is to rapidly kill every enemy
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thanks frogbro!

>>164299749
it's quite nice, but 10ogen so you can't plat it
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>>164299792
but it's fun
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>>164299645
a friend did a build using naramon + her 1 and 3 + a nikana prime
don't know how he mod it but he was melting everything around in a sortie grineer
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>>164299645
OH SHIT HES GOING NUCLEAR

>>164299726
Where you from Bruh?
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>>164299868
>Teehee, biting the hook like an idiot is fun XDDD
You're just encouraging shitposting, my dude.
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>>164299758
And since you are supposed to oneshot everything that's inside anyways, more duration on it is pointless.
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>>164299645

>I NEVER said "you can only use Ignis saryn against grineer!"

Yeah you did.

Over and over again.

In the last thread.

Which was the third thread you were flailing around in because you were so asspained about being called on not knowing basic game mechanics.

This is now the fourth.

Holy shit. You were wrong. Admit it. Let it go.

Or at least stop sperging out about it in each new fucking thread.
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>>164299760
Congrats, I had a much harder time finding the Undah dah Sea adventure Kurias
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>>164299879
>naramon + nikana prime

protip: it's not fucking Saryn. Literally any frame can use shadow step + crit melee.
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>Infiltrate undetected; reduced visibility when held. Then strike with confidence; hits to irradiated targets restores shields and creates overshields.

Is it the best dagger for Covert Lethality?

Fuck DE and their Ash "rework"
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>7k Oxium

What the fuck
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when do I get to make use of these edgelord decisions I made during the war within
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>>164299952
but I never fucking said you had to use Ignis. Goddamn you're fucking retarded. It's in the fucking archives. I said MULTIPLE times you don't need to use Ignis. I'm saying it now. All YOU have to do is use any fucking build you want, just post proof of it.

You guys are worse than fucking Trump lying about his twitter messages. It's going into pathological liar territory.

>>164299943
Yes, duration is pointless for his 2. WHICH IS WHY PURPOSELY BUILDING LOW DURATION LIKE YOU CLAIM IS STUPID.

Long duration is for his 3 and 4 (primarily his 3), not his 2.
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>>164299989

While spamming map-wide virals that make it twice as easy to kill everything?

Protip: Saryn might not be the best solo frame for high-level content (and literally nobody claimed otherwise) but holy shit if she can't help in a squad.
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>>164300149
never
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>>164300116
Oxium is really easy to farm now. It's not like it used to be. You can get like 500 in 10 minutes without boosters.
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>It's gonna be another thread ruined by saryn-posting
FOUR THREADS
FOUR FUCKING THREADS
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>>164299797
Nah it's the only place where you can have the illusion being something important but without any dignity and sanity left in you.
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>>164300189
Look at my Corpus webm. Look at my Infested webm. Now try to come up with a Saryn build - ANY saryn build, not just Ignis - that can evaporate Grineer as easily as Corpus/Infested.
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>>164293812
would you mind making something that doesn't clip with novas rocket boosters thanks
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>>164300189
Why waste time with her when you can use a Slova instead?
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Saryn did nothing wrong
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>>164300260
protip
Don't give that kind of people attention at all
Especially when they post moe garbage.
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>>164299568
Thats a nice combination anon, I quite like that with the graxx stuff. If you just sacrifice one color you usually get some pretty clean well crafted armor.
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>>164300072
it's the best vehicle for CL, yes, but barely more so than the ceramic dagger considering the shared attack speed and how generally worthless the gimmicks are (especially because stealth finishers being clunky as fuck or literally impossible for some enemies is bound to get you caught if you're not abusing them with some mass CC even with the reduced visibility range, because DE hates stealth)
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>>164300260
The record is 6 full derailed threads and that was back when mods was trying to delete his posts.
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>>164300440
Well, we're on the road to beat that record I feel.
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>>164300072

Ehh... it can be? Having it out neuters their detection radius but you need the aug on it to really get the most out of its special ability, and if you have the aug on it you run the risk of the Viral burst alerting the enemy and ending your stealth chain.

I kinda prefer the Ceramic Dagger due to its attack speed. But you do what works for you and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>164300149

In a devstream they said a focus rework where those would have an impact will accompany the next Quest, which is for Umbra.

>>164300176

>multiple posts with "i'll accept proof, but only under these conditions"
>"these conditions" were always "but nothing that can prove i'm wrong, especially if you don't just spam 1 or use a focus ability"
>it's everyone else's fault for not posting a webm

Really now.
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>>164299568
That helmet looks like complete garbage.
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So why is /wfg/ so passionate about a shit frame nobody plays?
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>>164300331

Some players lose their god damn minds if you show up with a Nova. Even if it's one with neutral strength in terms of enemy slowdown.

Alternatively, why not have a Saryn AND a Nova, so things can be killed 4 times as easily? Add a Banshee and keep multiplying!
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stop giving people you don't like attention, you autists
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>>164300483
>In a devstream they said a focus rework where those would have an impact will accompany the next Quest, which is for Umbra
was that the last one for 2016? happen to remember when?
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>>164300483
>multiple posts with "i'll accept proof, but only under these conditions"
there are exactly 2 conditions you dumb retard:

1) No SS, because literally ANY FRAME can kill lv100 grineer with SS. SS is not a fucking Saryn build.
2) Mixed composition similar to the one in my webm. So don't go kill 20 butchers and claim it means something.

REMINDER: NOBODY HAS YET TO POST EVIDENCE OF THEIR SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE SARYN BUILD YET.
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>mfw I'm the Sarynfag who caused this
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>>164300597
Don't take a Slova to defense missions, ya jack wagon; that's what speed Nova is for.
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>>164300630

IDK exactly. AMBunny's summaries on the official forum should have the one where they say it.

Even if they do it before then I really doubt we'll see it inside of three months. The delays with major story quests have gone past merely ridiculous and I doubt we'd see Umbra any earlier than like the middle of 2017.
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>>164300719

>speed nova
>in Sortie 3 Eximus Grineer/Corpus

nty
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>>164300630
Imo they need to remove focus in general, there is literally no reason not to use Zenurik or Naramon
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>>164300683
>purposely spread misinformation to stir up shitposting
>retards actually flock to it and defend it like the fucking Alamo
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>We're going to get our free cosmetics soon

What is DE obsession with Vanquished Banner though?
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>>164300889
Speed Nova + Vauban + Disarm Loki

Wow.
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>>164300483
>In a devstream they said a focus rework where those would have an impact will accompany the next Quest, which is for Umbra.

well fuck I think I might have to take a break from the game and come back when they finish that
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hi wfg here's my saryn build is this about right?
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>>164300590
What frame?
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>>164300897
They need to nerf Zenurik and Naramon to the point where they will be as bad as the others.
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>>164300943
All I asked was why if Saryn could theoretically outdps literally every frame in the game, why is she so low on your tier list.
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>>164301047
>Retribution

Waste of a slot
Something better can be put there.
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>>164301086
Yeah, why not make the game worse. Ideally, they would make the others better, but DE is staffed by retards.
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>>164300897

I just wish the Schools made some sense with their descriptions.

>doing Second Dream blind
>torn between Naramon and Zenurik
>knowing the enemy makes it sound like you'll get bonus damage for each completed codex entry or something
>logistical strangulation makes me think maybe you can reduce enemy ammo counts over time and force them into melee or something
>after much agonising decide to go with Naramon
>please give me a reward for being a compulsive lorehound
>lolno, have a melee crit buff and invisibility
>wat.jpeg

This being said I would prefer it if they bought Madurai, Unairu, and Vazarin up to Naramon and Zenurik's level. It's supposed to be an end-game mechanic, fucking reward us with it already.
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>>164301047
>no damaged vitality
How do you expect to get the most value for cheap slots?
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>>164301156
If you have to nerf fewer items to make the alternatives competitive, there's no reason to add powercreep. That's like retards screaming "buff everything else" as soon as they release a single gun that is blatantly OP.
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>>164301128
because it depends on map/faction, and she has no other worthwhile role outside of damage.
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>>164301178
>I picked Madurai because I went in to TSD blind
>"Oh, it's an ultimate power that's used for nuking everything!"
>"That sounds useful for getting out of a jam...!"
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>>164300964
>Needing to plan for Sorties
Wow
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>>164301178
>knowing the enemy makes it sound like you'll get bonus damage for each completed codex entry or something
They actually considered that when they introduced the codex scanning but somehow didn't go with it.
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I was thinking about putting argon crystals on the nook opposite of this one. Also post ships, if you want
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>>164301435
>eximus stronghold assassination
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>>164301435

>Eximus Stronghold Raptor Assassination

Oh boy this is gonna be fun with pubs.
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>>164301294
It's not power creep if you are making the other gear equivalent to something that already exists. And there is a reason to make shit strong when it is so grindy to obtain. Otherwise, people just ignore it in general. Just look at arcanes.

>>164301362
>being slow
Wow
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>>164300581
>ARCANE PULSE HELMET
>This helmet is worn by Volt, and adds Power Duration, with a reduction to Shields.

Kill yourself.
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>>164301435

Oh boy what a good day to skip sorties again.
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>Just finished The Second Dream
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>>164301435
Not as comfy as expected.
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>>164301535

>adds to power duration
>so you can stunlock longer
>so you can GOTTAGOFAST longer
>so your invincible shield lasts longer
>using it is somehow bad

Wew lad.
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Are the Karak Wraith / Snipetron Vandal worth investing Formas into? I've had these sitting in my inventory for a while.
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>>164301535
Doesn't make it any less ugly.
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formas shouldn't be considered gold rewards from sorties
formas are cheap and disposable shit, if you really want you can just run a bunch of void fissures and never run out

what the fuck DE
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But It's a pve game why the fuck is de nerfing and gutting anything that can deal above reasonable amount of dmg
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>>164301676

They're a lot of fun and with some investment can see you through Sortie-level stuff.

Karak a bit less so since its ammo economy is not the best and it's mainly Impact damage, but sink enough Forma, get a decent Riven, build for Status and go ham if you like.

Neither are top-tier in their class. Make of that what you will.
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>>164301720
Forma? What's a Forma? Is that related to 2000 endo?

>>164301771
m-muh co-operative gameplay experience
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>>164301771
No idea. Shit like the Simulor needs nerfed, but they leave it alone and nerf everything else, and I have no clue why.
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>>164301690
Volt's gnarly eyeball helmet is my favorite one of his.
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Is this thing any good? I honestly can't tell.
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>>164288595
>playing conclave
Disgusting.
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>>164301878
His default, Arrester, or Thales would all be better.
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>>164301941
Get your Hikou to negative AmmoMaximum, multishot and fire rate.
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>>164301771

They're not though?

Plenty of weapons can still deal mega-bullshit damage.

Even the Synoid Simulor, which whiners will tell you has been nerfed into the ground, literally rewards you for doing nothing but jam on LMB from the start of a mission to the end and can delete groups of high-level enemies faster than a high-investment Vaykor Hek which requires more expensive mods and more skill to use.

They consider that to be an OK level of power.

The only time they gut weapons or powers is when they're even more brain-dead than that, like Ash's press 4 to win or Synoid Simulor doing everything I just mentioned AND automatically causing head crits because explosive weapons were glitched like that.
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>>164301934
You can kill those considerably faster with Ivara/Inaros and a CV dagger.
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>>164288265
I use this cause im lazy and ive never had issues with anything high up. Could be better perhaps but eh
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>>164301941
reroll
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>>164301771
Reasonable amount should never be defined by the playerbase, because their vested interest in making everything as easy as pie is intrinsically counterproductive to good gameplay. That's why nerfing is needed. To preserve weapon and frame options while not letting any choice give one player an objective advantage. Alternatively, you can always buff all the enemies to keep the amount of time it takes to kill/complete a mission the same every time you power creep.
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>>164301941

Not articularly, no.

The Hikou P isn't bad but that Riven doesn't play to its strengths.

If you like the Hikou, hang onto it and reroll it. If not, unload it on the market as reroll fodder for a couple hundred Plat.
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>>164302034
Not really. That's one and a half group, the rest died offscreen from poisoning. CL would take about twice as much time. Animation, even with all speed mods is 2.5-3 sec long, 20 enemies, 60 seconds + time needed to get to each one.
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>>164302145
>>164302117
>>164302021
Thanks guyse
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>>164301934
have you tried the 100% status whip sword?
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>>164301934
it's not fucking Saryn

it's your fucking SS melee

ANY FRAME CAN FUCKING DO THAT WITH AN SS MELEE
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>>164301934
Now do it without the invisibility crutch.
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>>164301934

Oh boy.

Proof of Saryn destroying high-level Grineer heavies AND using Shadow Step.

TQ is gonna love this.

Personally I applaud you. They give us the tools, we can make use of them. Fuck the haters.
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>>164302228
Slower strikes, doesnot hit as much targets. Lesion is generally faster.

>>164302245
It's not SS you fucking dumbass.

>>164302259
Can not be arsed. Doing sortie for daly dose of 2k endo
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>>164302374
>invisible melee hits
>it's not SS
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>>164302245
>stop using X in your build because it makes your build better than mine!

yea right.
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>>164302201
>>164301941
This reroll seems a little on the strange side. But with negative ammo the reload speed would be nice. And the punch through.

Most of the damage comes from concealed explosives anyway.
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>>164302498

I thought it was SS, he actually has Arcane Trickery on.

Either way, get bent. Someone finally decided to shut you up.
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>>164302180
>2.5 sec for CL dagger animation
>implying

Ceramic Dagger is your friend.
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>>164302561

And now, you are enlightened.

This has been the problem when arguing with him all along.

>>164302580

Concealed Explosives' damage is actually pretty low. The utility it has is for stuff like (TRIGGER WARNING) Saryn really.
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what's a good shotgun that isn't vay hek or tigris prime; i don't have the MR for either
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>>164302706
>cheesy invis bullshit any frame can do
>this somehow proves Saryn's good against grineer

The thing is, even IF this proved anything, IT'S STILL SLOWER THAN IGNIS+SPORES AGAINST CORPUS AND GRINEER.

>minute-long clip killing a group of armored units
>15s to kill Infested
>10s to kill Corpus

Wow, it's almost like...Saryn is less effective against Griner...than other factions...
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>>164302245
Not him butt:
Saryn is still more effective than most frames with Naramon. A Naramon Saryn is still twice as effective as a Naramon Deerframe.

Also:
>Still arguing 900 posts later

Come on brah. I try to be nice to you but at this point if feels like you're being malicious.
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>>164302580

Oh, I also just checked the Hikou P's stats. It's a Puncture-focused weapon, to the tune of 84%.

You may want to re-roll that again.
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>>164302871

Normal Tigris can still pump out HUEHUEHUEHUE levels of damage.

>>164302919

>The thing is, even IF this proved anything, IT'S STILL SLOWER THAN IGNIS+SPORES AGAINST CORPUS AND GRINEER.

He spawned all Heavies. Of course it's going to take longer than your mix of mostly normals with a few heavies.

You are wrong.

You have been told.

Go get a hemorrhoid cushion to sit on if it really bothers you this much.
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Whats a reroll fodder?
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>>164302871
Regular Tigris

Zarr Barrage
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>>164303149
so go spawn a mix of mostly normals and some heavies

20 Bombards is a dumb test environment because it never comes up in a real mission

I'm actually curious. How did you trigger Arcane Trickery on Saryn?
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>>164301934
yes, that's how orthos + invisibility works
Now pick a different frame, feel the difference.
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>>164302259
>ingame mechanic that's arguably less useful overall than the free energy forever option
>crutch
Kill yourself tripshitter.

>>164303235
riven with low reroll count but shit stats for a "good" weapon

you sell above "unveiled" price because it's for a good weapon, but not for $max$cash$money$ because the buyer is going to reroll it until they get something good
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>>164302374
>Can not be arsed.
Then you're basically proving yourself wrong. You only proved invisibility is OP but any frame can use that.
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>>164303303
>trickery
>>164303363
>Orthos

Don't even explain it. This is just like the good old days.
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>>164302919
Proven time again and again that you will go back on anything you just said and keep moving the goalpost.
What a surprise.
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>>164303452
Infinite energy is a useful tool that increases farm times. Invisibility supports a player's lack of skill.
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>>164303452

Thank you.
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>>164301545
>t. shitter
>>
>Last few threads is just BP and Lucy just picking fights with everyone.
Come on guys. Stop feeding them what they want.
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>>164303303

>the fact that i am wrong is irrelevant to how right i am
>no proof will ever be enough

Can we do it lads? Can we break his record and make it to 7 threads this time?

Or should we hope he follows Tyl Regor's command?

>LIZARD STOP

Indeed.
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>>164301771
because DE is retarded and their retarded playerbase will defend them
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>>164301545
Post ign and i'll carry you.
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>>164302028
>>164302143
fuck off forumite, literally no one or nothing is forcing you to play [insert meta frame/weapon]

stop trying to ruin the game for others you petulant manchild
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>>164303601
I don't pick fights with anyone. I just point out when I see something that is blatantly inefficient. You can build your stuff however you like, just don't act like it is good and expect a hug box. This isn't the official forums, and one TQ is enough.
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If you try to gift someone a skin/cosmetic they already have, will it still go through and charge you?
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>>164301934
here's my Oberon killing the same group of enemies, and faster than your Saryn did

now fuck off with Invis cheese. It works on literally any fucking frame
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>>164303891
Yes.
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>>164302143
That's retarded. Nerfing should only come into play when something is retardedly broken like the Simulor, or even the Tigris Prime.
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>>164301047
Take off your trip.
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>>164303824

>fuck off forumite, literally no one or nothing is forcing you to play [insert meta frame/weapon]

Neither of those posts say that.

Neither of those posts call for nerfs.

No-one is trying to ruin "your" game for you, or anyone else.
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>>164304000
>Thats why nerfing is needed
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>>164303573
It's a crutch to support your lack of skill in energy management. The fact that it's also a useful tool that speeds up farming doesn't change that.
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So I'm coming back to the game after a pretty long break (last time I played, I believe clan Dojo's had just been released and I helped with building up Warbros). Kinda lost as to what the current meta is.

I've been thinking of building Loki and maybe Nova. Would they cover my bases as far as most farming scenarios go? What two weapons would make for decent bread and butter while I build up some better mods? Currently I've been using a Hek and Kunai.
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>play Wukong
>press 2
>never fucking die ever

Literally the best tank in the game. SO FUCKING GOOD.

I wish they counted every "death" in the official stats, so I could see how many times Defy activated during the mission.
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>>164303935
>Not using spin2win
You could've made it even faster that way
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>>164304060
>you tried
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>>164303935

>here is a different frame
>with a different, more powerful weapon
>therefore i'm right

kek.

Every single time.

EVERY
V
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SINGLE
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G
L
E

TIME
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>join game
>2000 ping

how does this even happen
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>>164304136
>I can't dispute it, maybe being condescending will shut them up!
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>>164304107
>Playing Wukong
>Press 2
>Run out of Energy and die
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>>164304071
>meta

The great meme the Warframe community cooked up.

You can literally play Oberon in raids, and as long as you're not constantly being scraped off the floor, no one will bat an eye.
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>>164303881
>You can build your stuff however you like, just don't act like it is good and expect a hug box. This isn't the official forums, and one TQ is enough.
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>>164304129
I don't macro so spin2win is a pain to use for me. It was to prove a point, literally any fucking frame can kill lv100 enemies using SS

>>164304171
It's a fucking Oberon you dumb turd. That's the entire point. ANY FUCKING FRAME CAN KILL USING INVIS
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>>164303573
>lack of skill

So you're saying Loki, Ivara, and Ash would be just as useful and flexible as they are now without their respective stealth mechanics?

Are you trying to make the argument that it takes less "skill" (lol) to use Loki than, say, Rhino, because Loki has invisibility and Rhino doesn't?

Your opinion is incorrect and biased, and you're a tripshitter to boot. That's three strikes, cowboy.

>>164304071
Loki will carry you through 99.999% of everything if you've got the weapons and mods for it, and Nova is useful all game as well.

Pick up the Hek syndicate mod, or the vaykor hek, then a good secondary like lex prime or vaykor marelok. Melee is pretty much whatever, but the Telos Boltace and Secura Lecta are both top tier for different reasons.
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>>164303935
Before that you should check your ass it's bleeding none stop.
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>>164304071

Hek is still good due to the Steel Meridian aug.

Kunais aren't crit weapons any more so fuck that noise. Most popular secondaries are AkStilleto P, Lex P, or Vaykor Marelok.

Loki is more of a solo frame than a farmer. Nekros and Nova and you should be set though.
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>>164304193
>be you
>be a shitter
>don't have Rage
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>>164303982
thanks for the (you) but I think it was supposed to be aimed elsewhere
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>>164304246
>>164304287
>>164304202

Thanks. Was just sticking with kunai because it was decently filling in the midrange gap. I am working towards the Vaykor Hek already. Is the Akmagnus decent? (1 hour left till it finishes building)
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Nullifiers were such a fucking stupid idea. This sortie survival is pure cancer.
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>>164304340
Sorry m8, I'm just so estatic that (You)s are back I just can't help but give them out.
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Came back after a break, the guys I played with aren't playing any more. I'm in Hexis/Suda for my syndicate, should I pick up a third one or change to a different syndicate when I have everything from the ones I'm in? Before we'd just trade stuff between us but now I have 4 syndicates that I can't get stuff from.
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>>164304246
His entire point is that he is trying to prove the frame is good while almost entirely relying on something that has nothing to do with the frame. Using invisibility to prove Loki or Ivara is fair game because it is actually built into the frames themselves.

>>164304183
>you tried

>>164304071
4 frames you should always have:
Loki, Nova, Frost, and Trinity

Those 4 will completely cover all your bases.
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>Try to Gift Tennogen
>You will be charged 75 Plat for this gift
>Press Okay
>Fail to send gift

So can you gift TennoGen stuff or no?
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>>164304410
>Akmagnus

A worse AkVasto.

No.
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>>164303881
>you can build your stuff however you like except if I disagree with it then you have to change it to suit my tastes
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>>164304456
So (you)'s were actually gone?
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>>164304624
only if you didn't have 4chanx
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>>164304582
You don't have to change anything. You can roll around garbage all day if you want; just don't expect me to not point out that you smell like trash at the end of it.
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>4k endo

FUCK
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>>164303881
Wait what was that talk about nidus?
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>>164304541
>A """"""""""""worse"""""""""""""" Akvasto

How do you figure?
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>>164304240
>Oberon with one of the strongest melee weapons in the game using SS
>Somehow this compares to a Lesion with Arcane Trickery.
Special kind of stupid.
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>>164304918
No Crit.
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>Want to come back to the game
>Launcher won't finish downloading shit
eat shit de
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>>164305025
Now who's forcing others to use a specific weapon?

Point is, invis completely invalidates your frame. The Saryn in that webm could be any fucking frame, even the worst one in the game like Oberon. It doesn't prove jack shit.

And the kicker? IT'S STILL SLOWER THAN IGNIS+SPORES AGAINST THE OTHER FACTIONS.
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>>164304541
heard you were talking shit about my gunfu
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>>164305027
Am I retarded, or are you saying the akmagnus is a worse version of the akvasto?
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>>164304918
Reload, Akmagnus makes me want to die every time I reload it.
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>>164305196
Thought you were all for making it standardized, though. Wasn't that the shit you went on about for half of the last thread?
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>2 REACTORS IN A ROW FOR SORTIES
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Hi, sorta noob here (been playing a couple weeks) , what prime frame should I shoot for first? And what weapons? Pretty much just wanna know the most fun and effective frames and weapons in the game
<3
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What the fuck is up with the Valkyre specter at the Junction quest for jupiter? Virtually impossible unless you paid a hefty sum of money early on.

On another note, I wanted to get ash, but I'm missing a resource that is gated between mastery rank 5 unless I use real cash on it. Farming normal ash also seems like a pure nightmare, so what would you guys recommend?
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>>164305224
Please show your Riven.
I love AkMagnus.

Also any webm demonstration?
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>>164301934
>the autist is using my christmas saryn colors
>my grineer pyromancer has cancer
>basically impossible to color nidus well
Kill me, I just want to look stylish.
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>>164305451
oh no
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>>164305408
The standarization was purely for the Ignis/Spores combo against factions. Not for other setups.

I stressed the ability to use anything against the Grineer.

But Invis shit can be used with any frame, it doesn't fucking matter. And that guy's setup was so shit my fucking Oberon killed faster than he did.
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>>164304795
Me pointing out that the smelled like trash after rolling in the garbage.
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>>164305451
Whos your fave frame? The primes play exactly the same to their normal counterparts, with some statistical upgrades. Weapons are the same, but some primes are much better than others.

>>164305456
You dont need to pay money to get strong, I dont think you understand how the game works.
Also resources dont have mastery locks. What are you even talking about?


>back to back newfriend questions
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>>164305224
>that Crit
I am open to new ideas.

>>164305227
I am wrong here. Please ignore my previous post.
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anyone got a decent jew whip ahk? hand starting to cramp up

>>164304520
the recipient might not have linked their steam account to their warframe account? since you can't even browse 10ogen stuff without doing that, I could see it causing a problem with gifting too
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Braton prime vs Soma prime?
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>>164305730
Soma
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>>164305724
Yea but the problem is it asked me for 75 plat instead of the dollarino amount.
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>>164305609

The earliest point to get nano spores is at saturn. The saturn junction requires you to complete a quest in the codex. That quest requires you to be mastery level 5, which means that I either have grind and then wait a few days, or pay up with platinum.
You dont NEED to pay money to get strong, but it'll sure as hell help earlier in the game where frames/weapons/resources are locked behind mastery levels.
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Tfw pretty new to the game and a friend who doesn't play anymore is gonna give me a bunch of platinum and blueprints
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>endo for a week straight now
FUCKING CHANGE THE REWARDS ALREADY STEVE YOU CUNT
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>>164305891
But it doesnt tho, just build some other shit or ask in recruiting to take you on a nano spore farm.
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>>164305224
> Magazine 16
> Reload 3.0
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>>16430560
Only have excalibur rn :(
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>>164306002
hope you are enjoying the new war within content tenno! buy plat! remember DE has to eat!
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>>164306156
I'm sitting on a couple dozen thousand endo at this point, I've hit a fucking credit wall before I hit an endo wall when it comes to maxing mods.
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>>164306002
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>>164304071
>Warbros before the dojo

are you in this gif?

if so, post some old OC if you still have some, had to nuke my hdd this summer and I lost like 2 gigs of /wfg/ pictures ;_;
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>>164305730
Soma for crit build
Braton for meme status build

Soma is overlal stronger but Braton is fine for most missions.
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>>164305463
sure give me a moment my internet is quite crapy
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Warning to everyone

>>164304790
This guy play on console(main) but have an account on pc just to "try some new shit".
Also his "insight" has been proven(to be wrong and shit) many times in souls and borderlands general.
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>>164306642
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>>164306709
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>>164306879
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>>164306642
Nah, I'm not in that gif. I remember a lot of the people though. I can remember scrambling home and trying to find someone who could let me into the alert I needed, and MoonZapdos always comin' through.
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>>164306879
>My profits are moving on their own
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>>164307136
Hah yeah, good old Zapdos.

>>164307101
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>>164306709
oh my
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kicking off the new year with a bang
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>>164293570
better late than never
DPS is higher with more damage, its because of the multishot
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>>164307860
>0 PLAT
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>>164305463
Nvm making the video is too much of a pain in the ass, here have a one shot lvl 80 lancer
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>>164307860
What's the challenge here? Forcing you not to pub a mission?
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>>164306279
So buy a booster, grab a secura lecta, and go ham on any infested survival for an hour. Enjoy your 2 million credits.
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>>164307927
Oh yea, I spent the last of my haul buying Nidus for a friend since he was too busy to grind, and I had zero energy left to do that gauntlet again. Year of Surprises had something left over for me I guess
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>>164298248
62 energy. And it'd be six times.
It's overkill for the power since you only need to hit 180% to maximize his 3.
That plus people seem to be shitting over his 1, but at 100% power and 100 stacks a level 85 eximus noncorrupt bombard takes more than 15 stomps to kill. The 1 is just straight puncture damage. At 239% damage that's only 2.4x more damage so still another 6 or so stomps.
I mean congratulations if you're fucking MR2 and want something bigger to use. But anyone MR12 and higher generally have decent guns for example a tigris prime, which can double barrel that previous example out of existence, with punch through and a max range 2 you can do the same to every 85 eximus bombard in 35 meters of the fucking thing. So really, why take the time to do 6+ stomps when you could have unlimited use of one shotting everything in the area by simply not relying on your 1 for shit it's barely good at. 1 builds stacks and is fun to play with, it's a mediocre weapon though. With his power it's just 50K puncture damage in a straight line only on the floor. A TigP can do almost twice that, with slash proccing, armor reduction, or other useful effects than stagger.

You can argue 'fun to play' all you want but you can still stomp all day and not kill shit with a less shittier build than max strengthening it.
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>>164307860
>mercury exterminate
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>>164308557
The real question is how many maggot explosions to kill those lvl 85 bombard eximus units.
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Which Syndicate has the best qts?
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I believe the bar slowed down again.


>Closing in 1D:23H:57M

Better hurry some of you.
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>>164298908
>His 2 can not be recast while active, and does not cappture new targets, meaning after all grabbed targets are dead, the rest of duration is wasted, turning into arbitrary cooldown

Incorrect. After all the targets are dead it goes it away and it's immediately reset and available. It only stays if there's targets that are alive or grabbed whether or not it's in the ball.

>>164299268
>Duration for his 2 is irrelevant, whether short or long. You kill everything inside anyway.

Incorrect. Sometimes it's useful to do a body dump, a door pin, or using to pull enemies away for CC purposes or closer. Duration matters based on how you use it. Low duration makes it so you can control various groups of enemy flow. You can put enemies near you and pull a different group of enemies to someone else clear across a tile while you deal with a group batched up for yourself. A long duration makes that more difficult. You can also use short duration for fling effects. High durations can be used to force enemy locked doors open as well and pull groups away for later use.

This is nidus's most powerful ability, the ability to literally control the battlefield and drastically increase performance of most weapons.

Duration matters a lot. But it also matters for your 3 and 4 immensely.
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>>164308557
>comparing single-target shotgun to to a 40m+ line nuke
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>people are trying to sell PHAGE rivens for 300+

I don't get it. I really don't. Rivens make pubshitters go full retard somehow.
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>>164309169
>can only have 1 larva up at once
>affected by LOS
>"most powerful ability"
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>>164309065
What's the cheapest thing in the market to buy?
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>>164309348
kavat cum
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>>164309212
You should try to learn how to read.
>with punch through
You fucking half-wit.
Why have single line ground only nuke when you can have a 35m every enemy + straight line anywhere nuke with your shotgun. You do know what 2 does right? Because if you don't know, fuck off you're not in this discussion.
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>>164308029
>80
>not armor stripped
>corrosive
cmon now
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>>164309453
>relying on LOS pull
lmao
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>>164309341
>can literally murder everything around an entire room at sortie 3 level and above in less than 2 seconds with 1 larva and it goes away ready to use and medium duration it lasts only a short while.

>not stronger than sitting there bashing 1 with max strength nidus for fifteen minutes to kill 1-5 enemies, putting down a carpet that doesn't do much damage for some CC and survivability because you need to stay and fight what you could have already killed and moved on with.

>weakest ability
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>first riven mod has the most retarded challenge ever

do people buy these things? I'm not even going to bother attempting it because it sounds like bullshit
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>people caring about Nidus

You know DE's gonna nerf him to shit no matter what you do

Pubs are already spamming forums with nerf requests
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>>164309742
>daddy what's line of sight?
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>>164309348
I think the small cosmetic items for the lander are the cheapest at 5p. I gave out a bunch of nano spore decorations when the event first launched, and I'm a cheapskate so they're probably the cheapest item.

>>164309810
People will buy sealed rivens for like 50p, probably more if it's a pistol/shotgun one. Give trade chat a try.
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>>164310015
>her dur my shitstain LOS stomp doesn't use LOS.
>LOS is terrible because I can't fucking aim.
Learn your angles retard.
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>>164309995
Nerfing him would pretty much fuck him up from what I see.

What can you exactly nerf from him?
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>>164309810
What's the challenge?
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>>164310130
>defending LOS
kek
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>>164310163
You can't fool me, I'm not telling you how to nerf Nidus, Steve.
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>>164310163
The only nerf I could see would be a "Bastille nerf" and make power str affect max targets with Larvae, but that should barely have an affect for reasons recently covered - LOS and moderate duration

No reason to nerf his 1 (main call) because we'be already seen damage fall off against armored things.

I want a buff that makes his maggots also get pulled to larva-point automatically.
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>>164310356
I hope you used relentless combination
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>>164307870
ah ok.

on a separate note, I just finished the sands of inaros quest. Damn did that get heavy fast. I wasn't expecting that ending at all. it was actually a pretty good story. I really like baro as a character now.
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>>164310074
that sounds good to me

>>164310205
capture a simaris target while hobbled by a dragon key and not using a trap or taking damage
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>>164310568
Oh that's easy anon, just stealth it.
Scanning the target doesn't alert them, so you can just sit across the room and scan them in. I had one like that where I couldn't use abilities, but you can just Loki stealth the whole mission.
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>>164310074
>>164309413
> I have 1k plat
> I could send 200 of these 5p items
> Mfw my 1k plat would barely even Feebly Paw at the number necessary to get this shit done.

No offense but I got shit to buy. Like arcane energize. I still need 2 more sets.
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>Conclave Snowball fight
>Golden potato

Well, here we go boys
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Literally every frame and almost every weapon needs a buff in the current state of the game.

Fuck people who ask for nerfs.
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>>164310763
Is that up now?
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>>164309476
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>>164310806
You're in charge of reworking a frame.
What frame and what those abilities will be reworked into or buffed?
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>>164310510
Definitely. Not even a forma or potato'd though, so just four mods. The bloodfest is fucking hilarious as it just rises into the air.
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Is this thing supposed to be fuck huge?
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>>164311189
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>>164311287
I kept mine as a "puppy" until they fix them.

The charger walking around the ship seems pretty adorable.
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>>164310928
Sorry, but shit gun is still shit
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>>164310957
>a frame

I'd just revert the 18.13 nerfs and Ash's nerf
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>>164310763
>30 minutes of throwing snowballs for a potato
but i dont wanna
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>>164311431
Space it out. I just won one match.

Gonna go do other stuff for an hour and come back for round 2.
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I'm "Helping"
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>>164311584
How many of them "touched" you?
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>>164310761
>sets
Jesus, why? Don't tell me you can stack them on armor pieces and shit other than helmets/syndana.

>>164310806
>literally every frame
Chroma is just fine where she is, thanks.
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Do you guys want to see my tier list?
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>>164311563
currently just crouching in a corner while watching a movie. guess it doesn't kick you for afk
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>>164311773
I only have one on a cape. I need a head for Ember and Equinox.
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>>164311783
only if it's about which girlframe has the best dick
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>>164311651
already got Pozzed.
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>>164311791
whoops nvm. just move around a bit and you'll stay in
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>buying ayatans for 4p and selling them for 8-12 to use up my trades before reset
>guy wants to buy 5 for 30p and I tell him 40
>keeps stating its worth 30p but I tell him ill sell it to my normal buyer who pays 12 a piece
>buys it anyways but continues to tell me I should only be charging 30
>had a nidus player right where I spawned to try and infect me but I brought my cystframe
Why is everyone in trade chat so passive agressive?
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How much are veiled pistol rivens going for?
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>>164312163
>Why are dumb, poor people so passive agressive?
the world may never know
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>>164311773
Build for Frame+Weapon?
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>MR11 at last

One more lads, one more and I can use the fabled Syndicate weapons.
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>>164312304
weapon
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HE DAB
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>>164312571
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>>164312468
and current frame, has lost damage since the original stats were capped, but gained survivability with rage
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>>164311929
So you get rejuvenated when an ally picks up energy? How does arcane energize work?
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>>164312468
>>164312696
Thanks friend
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>>164312696
>rage on Chroma
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>>164312708
>>164311929
>400p per
>only drops from Jordas
>this is the shit that was supposed to replace Arcane Helmets
Fucking DE can't do a single thing right.

>>164312792
Makes a huge difference in Eximus sorties where you're getting sucked dry.
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>>164312708
It has the ability to turn a 25 energy orb into a 125 energy orb. Which is pretty huge. It also gives this 125 energy to allies when it procs.
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>>164310957
I don't care for oberon, but he needs it the most, so I'll pick him.
smite: heals allies within the radius based on damage done to the enemy.
hallowed ground: applies a DoT to enemies and a HoT to allies. This DoT and HoT gets passed on by making contact with an enemy or ally.

renewal is replaced with retribution (if this ability name is already taken, whatever) you and allies in range automatically reflect a percentage of damage taken. (IE: if it reflects 50%, then an attack that would deal 300 damage to you would instead only deal 150 to you, and it would deal 150 to the enemy).

reckoning: enemies who die to this always yield health orbs in addition to their normal drops.enemies picked up with this ability get pulled to location you choose, setting them up for AOEs.

There, he's 100 times better.
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Is Bronco suppose to be the Tigris of the Pistols?

2 round magazine feels awful.
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>madurai lense from a sortie

im just not gonna do sorties anymore, complete waste of my fucking time
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>>164313135
>non stop exilus adapters
I only play three frames dammit.
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>>164310270
>wanting to "play" the game by using as little few presses as possible
I know who you are and will dance on your grave.
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>>164313085
bronco is shit, has always been shit, and will always be shit

even broken rivens can't save it
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>>164313185
I wouldn't mind this honestly. I've only ever had the one from the quest where they were introduced I haven't done Clem's quest but I'd like them on a few frames. I think Simaris is bugged for me because I've apparently been hunting Drahk masters for weeks now and he only ever pops up to tell me there's a target on Corpus missions, which obviously never spawns.
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>>164311431
>Popped in 2 minutes before the match was over
>Someone else popped in 2 seconds before the match was over
That lucky bastard
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>>164313356
I have enough exilus adapters to build 6 more frames and exilus them all, which I wont do but still. Least I wont have to worry about outfitting bardframe.
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>>164313201
why'd you post a picture of a shitty riven for a shitty gun?
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>>164313085
Twin Rogga is now the Tigris of secondaries.
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>made it to Sedna at last
>read up on her

She sounds like a chore to fight.
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>tfw you get a 75% plat discount
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>t-bagging and clapping after killing someone in snowball fight
suddenly game mode is fun
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>>164313619
She's incredibly easy when you solo her
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>>164313619
I did the level 100 sortie with outdated equipment and full retard builds on them. You will be fine.
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I got a shitty Hema riven for my TWW reward last night, first sortie just gave me this.

Is it any good, or at least valuable?
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When are we expecting:

>The next new Frame?
>The next Delux skin?
>The next Update/Quest/Operation?
>Next Prime / Unvaulting, and for which frames?
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>>164314109
Soon(TM)
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>>164313921
>valuable
no, rng fucked you
at best you will be able to make the Hema passable, but you most likely wont be able to sell it for much
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>>164314109
Don't know
Next is Frost, so...it depends.
We have no clue
Banshee is next, most are doubting others are hoping. Valk came near the beginning of December right? So...I expect March or April is when the next Prime announces.
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So, Warframe is among the top 24 revenues of Steam in 2016. I guess they won't change their retarded methods and it will just get worse.
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>>164314327
Stop spreading lies about the next prime frame. Nobody ever suggested or confirmed whoframe.
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Boy I sure love never being able to connect to the Snowday alert
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>>164314456
the "DE is shit warframe is shit" meme is a coping mechanism, dont be fooled
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How to make sorties more fun/rewarding:

1. Make sorties appear every twelve hours
2. Less rewards because they appear more often
3. Make the rewards things players actually want

My idea for the rewards table would be

>2k Endo (40%)
>4k Endo (25%)
>6k Endo (15%)
>3 Nitain Extract (10%)
>8k Endo (5%)
>Riven (5%)

Also make the level of enemies even higher, and I would some of the Nightmare Mode modifiers to the last mission (none of the bullshit ones like vampire mode however)
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>>164301315
What I did as well. Now it sits there in uselessness.
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>>164314464
I never said she was confirmed next. She is supposed to be next thus I said many are doubting others are hoping.
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>Trade with someone
>He has 30 million credits

I dont know how you people do it.
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>>164314849
>less chance of Riven
>3 Nitain
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>>164314849
Why would you think of this droptable?
That seems worse.
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Is Equinox good?
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>>164314849
I would track you down and kill you.
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>>164314923
She was "supposed" to be next twice. It's more likely they'll go with Mirage or Mesa.
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>>164315043
>>164315090
Did you not read the part where it said "Sorties every 12 hours"

This means you have two chances every day to get better rewards, instead of the current system where you get a shitty reward every 24 hours.
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>>164315065
yes, Equinox is a good damage frame
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>>164314990
I've had sub 1mil credits for two years, just now accumulated it. Have not maxed a single nightmare or prime mod.
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>>164315178
Fuck off tierfag.
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>>164315228
>someone asks a simple question best answered by the tier list
>get bullied
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>>164315178
It's not /wfg/ frame tier list.
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>>164315170
>better rewards

>2k endo (40%)

nigga share the blunt
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>>164315313
You could just type out "yes" or "no". No need to put the list every time.
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I just finished building Vauban and i think i'm in love.
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>>164315473
but the list gives a lot more information than just "yes" or "no"
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They better remove this shit next fucking update.
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>>164311369
????
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>>164314990
Autistically grinding credit misisons and buying credit boosters.
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>>164315170
More Endo diluting the tables?
Riven Mods even more rarity?
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>>164315313
No, the best answer is 'yes' or 'no'. Nobody except the tierfag likes the tier list. The general copypasta has a filter to filter that shit out, for fucks sake.
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>>164315452
Statistically speaking, my nigga, a 40% chance means that less than a majority of the time you would be getting 2k endo. The majority of the time you would be getting one of the other rewards.
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>>164315538
It really doesn't give more info than just typing "Yes, she is a good damage frame"
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>>164315170
>more than halve the chance for a riven
>but you get to do this slog twice, now with even more pub HELL!
>2k endo 2k endo 2k endo 4k endo 2k endo 2k endo 8k endo 2k endo nitain extract 3
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>>164315580
>>164315629
it tells you how good she is relative to other frames

it also tells you how to build her

Equinox also has alternate CC builds
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>>164314506
Try changing reagion. Even from a region were you belong, you might still get shit ping anyway, might as well just try that. Even when I actually enjoy playing conclave sometimes, its especially shitty now so just bite the bullet and test your luck

>>164313831

Playing to get a chance to fight her its the annoying part. I never fought here once but I got more than 20 mods from her sortie version already. She is grindy as fucking shit, and yeah, I know what game Im talking about, but still.
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>>164315594
The rewards now are 20% 2k endo and 20% 4 k endo.

Statistically speaking you are full of shit.
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i saw the anon earlier with the kohm riven, got me thinking
does the kohm have different rules for shotgun status? is each additional set of pellets have its own status chance?
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>>164315924
>2k Endo - 28%*
>Riven Mod - 20%†
>4k Endo - 12.1%

Statistically speaking I know exactly what I'm talking about, it's a shame your peabrain can't comprehend basic math
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>>164305456

The fuck. Specters are completely open to CC.

Excal: press 2, go in and melee. Use 4 if you want mo' damage.

Volt: 3, shoot from behind shield. press 4 if she comes flying at you.

Mag: PRESS FUCKING 2
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>>164315703
But it doesn't, because it's just an image that says tier list.
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>>164315561
!!!
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>>164316283
the pastebin link in the image is the frame guide, which has detailed build guidelines for every frame in the game
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> mfw new melee mods inadvertently result in frog buffs
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I want to sexually molest a frog.
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>>164316286
What the hell caused that?
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>>164316357
its a shit tho
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Baro's shit goes through cycles right? Like is he going to sell primed continuity and flow again at some point?
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>>164316357
Yeah, but he didn't ask for that.
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>>164316527
but it's there anyway if he wants it

>>164316519
>iblying
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>>164316450
> mfw im hamstringing myself because I don't pay close enough attention
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>>164316450
Build up your Prowl with Infiltrate with strength.
50% movement then that dispatch will add 60%.
You're now a little faster in prowl. I use it all the time in my focus runs or if I want to be comfy solo.
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>>164316598
can you stop soliciting please, it's unwanted
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>>164316598
If he wanted builds, I am sure he is enough of an adult to ask for it.
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>mirage prism bounces off the inside of limbo bubble
interesting
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>>164316598
the average time to someone to smell your bullshit is a full week.
after the last 5 threads its probably alot shorter now
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>>164316865
it's there in case of future

>>164316786
just providing a resource to newfriends
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>>164305456
Spam melee

I thought she felt impossible too, but fast melee stunlocks her so, yeah.
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>>164316509
Critical Crit. > 100% crit chance.
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>>164316983
yeah, because god forbid someone on this actual actually posts proof of whatever build they're talking about

I guess a bunch of shitters armchair theorizing retarded builds is the lifeblood of this general
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>Still trying to pick a primary weapon
Are there any diamonds in the rough I might have not tried? I'm close to not even bringing a primary anymore.
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>>164316746
I guess I need another dash polarity, and I suppose I might as well polarize the augment since I doubt it'll ever leave my build.
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>>164314849
>dat loot table
this has to be bait right?
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>>164317624
It's someone trying to get hired by DE. That's his application. Completely fucking over players under the guise of improving things. Either that or he's actually retarded. In any case he would make a good DE employee.
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>>164317323
>the proof doesn't count because I don't agree with it.
Be careful everyone he just throw a tantrum
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see anything wrong with this? sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and this confuses me

[sjis]toggle = 0
#MaxTrheadsPerHotkey 3

#If WinActive("WARFRAME")
{
z::
Toggle := !Toggle
While Toggle
{
Send {w down}
Sleep 250
Send {c down}
Sleep 100
Click
Sleep 100
Send {c up}
Send {w up}
}
Sleep 500 ;Time between melee strikes, this will need changed if you expect to run with certain buffs or arcanes always active.
Return
}
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>>164317378
What's your MR and what have you tried so far? A lot of top tier secondaries have better dps than 90% of primaries.
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>>164317378
depends, how much forma you got?
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>>164318175
This image needs to be updated w/ Tether Grenades for Penta
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>>164318175
I have tried every single weapon on there besides the Boltor and Burston. Really hope I like on of those, gonna need to use the telos boltor though. Boltor prime prices are outrageous.
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>>164318018
see>>164302245

tired of this dumb argument
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>>164318118
i just assigned "hold crouch" to "F"
my pinky no longer hurts
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>>164318118
What's the artist of that pic?
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>tfw no Tyl Regor warframe
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>>164318175
why are you posting a shitty list made by someone who doesn't understand the first thing about weapons?
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>>164318308
Oh dang, forgot about Javlok, gonna go build it. Heard it's a corpus killer, but sucks against grineer, hope I can remedy that.
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>>164318397
Why? He's goofy as fuck.

I want an actual Female tank (not gimmick tank like valkyr) next after Bard. Tired of these squishy ass bitches
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>>164314849
I may be one of the only people in this general who can actually use extra endo since some of my core mods like primed point blank are not yet maxed, and I STILL don't want endo to drop.
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>>164318510
>it
>implying he was talking about the weapons
clearly he was not
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>>164318510
>_
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>>164318308
If you can nab a boltor P BP I have the other pieces and am more than happy to give them to you.
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>>164318308
those two are probably the worst in the list
you don't like Hek? i mained Kulstar from MR5 - MR9, then i learned about Hek
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>>164318510
You're one to talk.
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>>164318641
weapons are based on damage
weapons chart should be based on damage

this ain't string theory
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Someone sell me a pic related. Been trying to get one from Market chat for two days.
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>>164318765
warframe.market
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>>164318725
I've already admitted I made a small error, which has little in-game impact and which ultimately did not change my argument

When is topgunner going to admit his weapons list sucks?
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>>164318510
this again, huh?
youre still trying to attack the list by reposting an explination of the list itself? its like you didnt read that post at all

>>164318296
it any good? i havent taken the time to get the mod

>>164318308
telos isnt on the list for a reason, its shitty
the javlok isnt better at corpus than any other weapon

>>164318760
"this is NOT a list of powercreep endgame weapons"
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>>164318571
nyx is acceptably tanky
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>>164318934
Not GIMMICK tank.

I want a Female equivalent of Inaros or Nidus or something.
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>>164318867
it's helped me a lot more than the frame guide
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>>164318867
But it does make one think. Think about what else you've made errors with, that is.
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>>164318867
probably at the same time when you admit that your tier list sucks
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>>164318765
If you hold on I'll check to see if I have extras.
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>>164319025
>Not GIMMICK
inaros is pretty gimmicky on his own, man
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>>164318867
Name on problem with his list.
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>>164318510
tq made a tier list and it's beyond shit,
people call out on it. he get mad and throw in a fit
other made a better list, he turn into a bitch
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>>164318926
>my vague, general disclaimer allows me to completely throw away the fundamental basis of any weapons tier list
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>>164319102
Nvm, I overpaid for one just now, waiting just isn't my game. Thanks for offering.
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>>164318386
pixiv 8452400
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>First riven since they added pistol and shotgun rivens
>Don't have any of those mods that increase combo time
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>>164319204
You could have gotten one for free.
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>>164318397
Why do grineer all have these weird prostethic legs? don't they have fleshy ones?
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>>164319137
Better, I'll give you THREE reasons:

Reminder the current top gun list is filled with garbage weapons. The current list sucks because:

1) The list lacks any criteria for weapons making it on there. No DPS numbers, no TTK. The creator himself has LITERALLY said his list "isn't based on DPS," which is a travesty for a WEAPONS list.
2) The list lacks distinctions. It implies shit like Penta and Tonkor are equal, or Braton and Soma are equal, or AkSomati and Telos AkBoltos are equal, when in fact the superior gun can double or triple the inferior gun's DPS.
2) Creator does not do his own research. He does not try any of the weapons or even calculate damage/DPS. There is no basis behind a weapon being on the list other than "I like it."

All these criticisms are handwaved by the vague, lazy excuse of "b-but it's not a tier list! Just a list of the """"""""good""""""" weapons!"

Reminder: the weapons list sucks and should not be used by anyone or linked to anyone.
>>
Why can't you rebind melee button? E is bound to something else in settings by default and there is no actual "melee" bind.
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>>164319169
>weapons """"""""""""""tier"""""""""""""" list
In his mind there's only tier list!
And they call him TIER QUEER!
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>>164319326
I'm just dumb anon. I'll go pop some relics to hopefully make up for it.
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>>164319331
Because they're mutant abominations.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>164319320
If you have Nidus you can stack up a melee combo timer using a very fast, low damage melee on an enemy that you're linked to. They'll take massively reduced damage and the link lasts longer than 30s at max rank, so with a bunch of power duration you could go into a medium-level exterminate and just do it to the last guy. I got one of those too and am also lacking all those combo extending mods so I figured that's probably a pretty easy way to do it, waiting for someone to test it though.
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does this thing even give mastery
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>>164319662
>>164319320
fug lemme buy this riven mod so I can test it. I must know
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>>164318926
Not like I can afford the prime boltor, so its just javlok and the burston, yikes.
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>>164319169
good point, updated
but i am certainly not going to change the entire and intentional formula of the list on the whims of a single anon suffering from Aspergers.
it works and it dynamic, unlike others

seriously, get some meds or a therapist dude. you are showing all of the symptoms of Aspergers

>>164319351
You have the same arguement as tq, but you actually thought it out. I appreciate that

The reason there are no DPS calcs is simple. A newfag comes on and asks "what are good weapons" just like this >>164317378. You show the list to him and then the anons lurking in the thread tell him what to do.
>>
>tfw reporting every dogpost for weeks
>tfw mods refuse to do anything about rules-breaking GETspam

need more comrades in this war against dogposting. Only YOU can Make /wfg/ Great Again
>>
>>164319713
Acnia
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>>164319713
Check codex.
"Retorno"
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Does Marking different quests as Active interfere with other quests in progress at all?

If I got three quests rolling at the same time, will all the objectives show up and can be completed?
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>>164319789
Don't waste your plat man. Someone will test it sooner or later, hell I'll test it myself when I can be bothered, I've just been more busy catching up on content I missed from the past 6 months
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>>164319320
just punch Lech Kril long enough
also, you really should get yourself a drifting contact
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>>164319753
de_steve
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>>164319713
Cuck Queen
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>>164319169
what you need to understand is, it's not a damn tier list. it's a chart for players who want to try a new weapon. it basically says: "here's a list of fun weapons to try out."
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>>164319652
Someone tell him to fight raptor. Or to fight long enought from 0 until reaching him, getting help is allowed unless its straight up being carried. I could kill him just fine, but I cheaped the fuck out of him when I started, I fighting it again in the sortie remind me that. I would like to know how if they know how retarded the new player experience is.
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>>164319713
n i g g e r d o g
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>>164319837
>weapons list not based on damage, TTK, or any other weapons-based criteria
>instead any shitty weapon can make it on there because its creator is a dumbass who hasn't tried 80% of the weapons in there
>this list actually misleads people into getting Braton, Latron, Opticor, Telos Akboltos, Vaykor Sydon, Broken Scepter
>people will defend this purposeful spread of misinformation

>>164320047
it's not a list of fun weapons, it's a list of """"""""""viable""""""""" weapons, except no criteria is ever given for what makes a weapon "viable" and absolute dogshit weapons is included in there
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>>164319652
>refresh combat / damage system
that's DE speak for "what should i nerf next?"
>>
It just sounds like TQ is butthurt that people like Tom Cruse and think that his guide is actually useful. Btw thanks Tom.
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>>164320282
>Vaykor sydon
>Bad
C'mon, man.
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>>164314128
>>164313921

If I have a shit riven that hasent been rolled, am I better off trying to roll it myself into something better or sell it as "unrolled"?
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>>164320318
Yeah, so? There's a lot of shit that objectively needs to be nerfed into the ground.
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>>164320337

Or you can stop your obsession with tq by not bringing him up, you colossal autist.
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>>164319331
not all grineer have prosthetic legs.

But all high rank grineer replace their subpar biological legs with hi powered mechanical ones.
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>>164320495
if it's for a good weapon that you don't use, jew it hard

if it's for a shit weapon that you use, roll it - if you get a godly roll sell it, if you get a good roll use it
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>>164319169
Tom cruise wasn't making a weapons tier list to begin with. He stated many times and you just going to push it to "he made a weapon tier list"?

Can you take a deep breath and think straight for once?
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>>164320282
yes
no, you dont know this at all. your are basing it all on speculation
it is not misleading, because it specifically says what the list is in the notes
if you dont like it dont look at it. that is how the internet works. i dont push it at all unlike someone else
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>>164320567
he brings himself up, he's in full force right now
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Seems familiar, huh?
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>>164320739
>it is not misleading, because it specifically says what the list is in the notes
>it's okay to make a shit list as long as the list acknowledges it's shit!
>>
I downloaded WF again and I now remember why I deleted in the first place, this boring shitfest will never get better and I have 300+ hours in this game.
>>
>>164320845
Goddamit I'm laughing so hard right now.
>>
>>164320337
I second this. Thanks for your effort, Tom.
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>>164319320
>>164319950
Oh for fuck's sake
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>>164320845
Seems familiar to me because I've seen it before.

A pebble in the mountain of reasons trump won.

Btw are we ready for a new Pic Related? :^)
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>>164320894
i dont trust you to make judgement on what is and is not shit
i am now minimizing your posts, taking this trip of, and ignoring you
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>>164317504
I responded late.
I don't usually forma for Augments. In case I want to keep flexibility across all configs.
I'll show you my builds.
Since I got Primed Fury, don't need to worry about Speed.

My Transient isn't maxed cause it'll fuck up other builds, only one I have, I'll probably get another one when I feel like it.

I can replace Narrowminded with a R12 so it can up the range. Her energy cap in Prowl is 0.25. 133% dur w. 160% eff will give it 0.3. Minimal difference.
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>>164320894
pls just go watch steve's stream
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>>164321365
what the fuck is this
link
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>>164321365
>>164321302
Where is this stream?
>>
>>164321470
twitch de_steve
don't bully him yet
>>
>>164321365
>>164321451
It was he pitched waaay back to start Warframe
>>
>Zone into Holiday Snowball fight and VICTORY pops up as you do
God Bless, 10 less minutes of this trash.
>>
>>164321241
lay out clearly the criteria for a weapon making it on the list, and no vague shit like "if it's viable" or "if it's potato-worthy." You've said the weapons list is not based on DPS or TTK. What, then, is it based on? Exact criteria
>>
Just started playing the other day and i'm rank 2 this morning. So far progressing through the map is fun and doesn't feel grindy yet.
Looks like they give a 50 platinum to newbies and there's a shop even though you can earn everything through normal gameplay. Was thinking i'd buy some but heard there's a way to get a 75% discount.
-How do you get the 75% discount coupon?
-What's the most useful junk to spend platinum on?
>>
>>164321681
>How do you get the 75% discount coupon?

Keep logging in daily and eventually you'll get it

>What's the most useful junk to spend platinum on?

Slots and cosmetics
Your first purchase will be either color pallet or slots
>>
>>164321302
>he's talking about the coding in warframe

holy shit nobody gives a fuck, when is he going to start PLAYING the game?
>>
>>164321714
https://www.twitch.tv
/de_steve
>>
>almost every sortie gives me a resource drop chance booster
That's like a 2.5% chance in the rewards pool
A fuckin conspiracy is what it is
>>
>>164321867
people are distracting him

fuck you it's interesting
>>
Tom
>"hey guys, it's been like a week or so, here's my list of weapons people should try out"
>someone makes a suggestion
>"oh that's a good idea let me add that in"
>leaves without incident

TQ
>"HEY GUYS ITS BEEN LIKE THIRTY MINUTES HERES MY TIERLIST"
>Gets told to fuck off until he makes changes that need to be made
>"NO_THERES_ONLY_ONE_WAY_TO_PLAY_WARFRAME_REEEE
>is_this_retard_serious.jpg
>X_waifu_reading_shitposts.jpg
>"why does no one like me?"
>>
>>164318397
What is: Trinity Prime Deluxe legs
>>164318926
Tether Grenades removes the self damage and automatically adheres to surfaces. I haven't put enough forma in to test it out on sorties but the tether mechanic works like the Index balls that slow you/tie you with a line to the ball.

The removal of self damage itself is worth the slot. Call it a bandaid but between this and a Riven (heaven forbid) it should be usable at all ranges
>>
>>164321998
>>164320845
these go well together
>>
reminder that if TQ were to appear on top of every argument, every comment he's involved with, no one would still like him
>>
>>164321998
>A guy wants to write a textbook. Instead of asking a college professor, he goes around the street asking people their thoughts on chemistry and compiles the answers into a textbook. Because the general public is not knowledgeable about chemistry, many erros make it in. He does not understand anything about chemistry itself, and as a result completely misses the glaring errors in his textbook.

vs.

>A college professor writes a textbook. He uses his own immense experience and familiarity with the subject to write it. He frequently consults his colleagues about what to put in the textbook. His students, who know little about chemistry, frequently try to get their ideas into the textbook and are ignored.
>>
>>164322401
Jesus christ, can you fuck off?
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>>164322401
>tq = a professor writing a textbook
i wonder who is behind this post
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>>164322401
>college professor
>>
>>164322401
>his own immense experience
>>
>>164322401
Not this fucking shit again.
>>
>>164322401
God damn you are bait incarnate.
>>
oh shit niggers get in twitch /de_steve he's showing us sleek coding
>>
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>playing AFK hide-and-seek
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>>164322401
>college professor
>>
>Started playing Warframe on PS4
>Get pretty far but it turns out the end game is dead as fuck
>Look into transferring to PC
>YOU CAN'T
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>
>>164322401
Do you get something for baiting this hard?
Do (you)s some how turn into money?
>>
>>164322963
You reap what you sow.
>>
>>164322963
Why didn't you do that before you started playing?
>>
>accidentally toggle my jumpspam macro from another game during the holiday game mode
>it's now 20 times funner
>>
>>164321727
Why are you deleting your posts?
>>
>Hema resource costs
>"We just looked at the bell curve and mr and YUP that's good"
>Then we realized our mistake as it put everyone into knots.
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>>164323512
retard
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>Nidus was created by a guy name Pablo
>He worked his ass off for this frame.

Now give him to Oberon and rework him.
>>
>retard asking about universal vacuum again
for fuck's sake, you already pushed for that shitty crutch me be made sentinel wide. There is absolutely no need to have it on everywhere all time time. God DAMN IT
>>
give PABLO all the reworks
>>
>>164323872
Pablo also made nullifiers
>>
>9 Radiant E1 relics
>8 of them were forma

I love DE.
>>
>>164324036
which nullifiers

there are 3 types.
>>
>>164322401
COME ON
you're the most arrogant moron ever
die already
>>
>>164324047
>join a random Axi survival with my underlevled shits
>get 150p worth of items out of only 15 min

Neat
>>
>>164324110
they're all shit
>>
>With Tether Grenades, Secura/Penta turns into a more unique weapon capable of decent CC.
>With Flux Overdrive, Flux Rifle is still shit.
>>
>>164324367
>>164324367
>>164324367
>>164324367
>>164324367

new ded
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>>164323693
>that formatting
Jesus christ that's ugly. If you're going to make a "le epik" screencap at least do us all the favor of not clogging it down with reactions. Reddit might be fine with that but please try to have some standards.
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>>164324503
im so sorry i cannot do better than this
>>
Is there a list that shows the easiest and hardest frames to farm? I know that rhino is one of the first ones you can get, but who else is there to get early/mid game?
>>
>>164324650
That's better. But just take all that scattered bit and cut it out. The image says more in the same way a sentence would say more without a fuckton of emojis. B+ improvement, though.
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>>164324650
kek
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>>164324720
Frost is piss easy to farm, killing the cunt from Mars might be the easiest fight ever.
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>>164287761
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>>164315968
Ramp up just adds multishot, no special rules apply.
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>>164319713
Precious
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