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WAR CALLS edition

>FAQs and General Info
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Time Commanders is back and it was never as good as decisive battles.
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Previous Bread: >>164136309
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>>164218023
Rollan!
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THE NATION CALLS
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It has been an honour to spend the year with you fine gentlemen.
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>When the dwarfs are so butthurt they don't even want to come and fight you in melee
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Make way, superior beings coming through
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>it was supposed to be New Years edition
Fuck you, 2016, thanks letting me end on a shitty note.
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Happy new year, Dolores
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>>164218229
Same!
Keep on killing rebel fucking shits, no matter which game.
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>>164218317
War always calls anon.
Come, lets bring in the new year with the sounds of battle and the blood of our foes.
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>>164218365
can someone help me understand this meme
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Final version, less memes, correct numbers, gooder spelling, etc.

Have fun boyos
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Vampire-chan in 2017 soon!
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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.
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>>164218653
WE WUZ GAULS N SHIT
thank you for the update
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>mfw it's stabby time in 2017 soon
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Now that the dust has settled, Attila or Rome 2? Which is better and why?
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>>164218675
Vampire-chan's delicious everything!
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>>164218738
Attila with Ancient Empires will finally obsolete Rome 2 once and for all, even more than it does now
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>>164218653
ya did gud!

>>164218023
NapoopaN rollan
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>>164218738

both are good in their own regards but I have more fun in Rome 2 because I prefer the time period and there's fewer barbarian factions in the game. Attila has better battles, sieges and campaign maps but I cannot fucking stand the playable factions.

Age of Charlemagne is another story. It's way more fun than basic Attila and Rome 2, imo. Cooler factions, more interesting period, more interesting campaign mechanics, etc.
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>>164218875
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>get a SSD on /twg/'s suggestion
>Warhammer load times go from literal minutes to just 10 seconds or so

Thanks, pham. What an improvement. Though now I have less shitposting time between battles.
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>>164219092
you can tell in multiplayer who HDD shitters are now because you load in like 60 seconds before they do, welcome to the club
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Let us take a moment to remember those campaigns which we would not be arsed to finish in 2016.

RIP my first Vamp campaign. I will never pick you up again even with the prospect of World War V of Mousillon + VCs vs. the Empire because the Dwarfs have just too much shit.
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And that's a wrap! Finally, the fucking beer-chugging niggers have been cleansed from the land, and with it the Long Campaign Victory.
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>>164219727
That goes into the book, you edgy dev pet cunt.
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>>164218814
>those big veiny milf jugs

Muh dick.
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Rome 2
Rome Attila
Shogun 2
or TWH


I had this idea of playing Rome 2 and recreating the Roman Empire, how fun is it?

Haven't played Shogun 2 in a long, long while, would you still recomand it? Also how are the DLC, never played them.

Attila I played but didn't like it, any way to make it more fun?

I know absolutely nothing of the new game, the one with vampires...etc Anyone could give a roundup of the game?

Happy new year by the way.
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stop celebrating and wipe out the rest of their units holy shit
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Are there any actual good Total War mods or are they all just jammed with shitty over complicated mechanics for the sake of muh realism and a million fucking handicaps thrown at the player ?
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>>164219825

I burned your gay little book after I took Thorgrim's head.
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>>164219948
They're all good, I'd pick whichever setting interests you the most. Shogun II's standalone DLC 'Fall of the Samurai' is great and the best gunpowder Total War imo.
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>>164220007
Radious.
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>>164220060
>burning the Book of Grudges
That's kinda lame desu.
Could've at least done something truly malicious like used it as a diary or rewriten all the grudges and sent it to some surviving dorfs.
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>>164220121
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>>164220121
Fuck that, i'll just play vanilla or learn to mod myself.
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>>164220060
THEN WE'LL MAKE A NEW BOOK.
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>>164220194

lmao

>Write 3,000 different grudges all about the Wood Elves
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Guy's someone stop this autism. It's not funny anymore.
r8 my canal


>>164220221
hey, the you's are back.
neat.
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>>164218738
Attila. I understand Rome 2's appeal since it is more about building an Empire and there is more to it than Romans and Germans, but I honestly cannot stand the gameplay of Rome 2 and quickly grow bored of it, despite my love for the period. Thankfully, I also love the late antiquity period, so Attila is near perfect for me.
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>>164220348
what the fuck is this
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>>164220550
Meme mods
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>>164220348
>r8 my canal

its good, more settlement design choices in WH is great.
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>>164220221
2017, the year of the horned rat
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>>164218860
yeah until you realize all the extra political bullshit playing as rome in that mod isnt worth it
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>>164221136

>80 shades of legionaries
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>>164219050
Can someone post the Attila version of this?
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>>164220194
>take book of grudges
>make nice apology cards and on the stunties' behalf send them to everyone mentioned in the book
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Happy new year you magnificent bastards.
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>>164219050
I've never understood how this mirror cover meme got started.
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>>164222556
what's there to understand?
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>>164222556
First time I saw it was on /v/ with NapoopaN and HaaH WaaW being the only ones to stick
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I hate Vlad. Before Vlad came around, everyone recognized Mannfred von Carstein, the Eternal Emperor, as the single best Legendary Lord in the game with the best starting position, best campaign, and best voice acting. Now that Vlad is in the game, everyone always mocks Mannfred by calling him "Mannlet" and even making mods to replace Mannfred as faction leader!

I think CA should remove Vlad von Carstein from the game.
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>>164223121
SUMMON THE REFLECTOR COUNTS
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>>164223390
Nah.
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>>164223319
>most powerful lord in the game, by far
>not a manlet, CONFIRMED

Can the living even compete?
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>>164223390
m-manny is the true von carnstein!
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>>164223390
>best voice acting
Thorgrim and Gelt had the best voice acting on release, Manny.
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>empire army moves into it's formations
>this starts playing
muh dik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0drHclGf0oE&list=PLcNKFiWYAvUSB4TWX55gWgNbmT5sGYDxD&index=70
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>>164218137
Roll
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why is /twg/ so slow today

are you all secret normies
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Is it canon in Warhammer that the chaos gods are terrified of Gork and Mork
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>>164225178
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>>164224468
>armoured camel memes charge into the flanks of enemy spears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfYOLJqt4OU
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>>164225445

>literally any cavalry unit charges into the flanks of any enemy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlp4TQt-yog
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>>164225202
Dumb and Dumber are a pair of jackasses just like Hashut and the Horned Rat.

Faggots don't even know how to Great Game
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>>164225202
I thought it was established that the greenskins and the orks in 40k would steamroll over everything if they even briefly stopped being retarded.
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Empire or Dwarfs to remove elf?
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>>164225992
Dwarfs
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>>164225992

>lanky manlings
>good at killing knife eared shit stabbers

INTO THE BOOK IT GOES
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>CA actually put a max number of building allowed per race.
Bravo CA.
It's like you are actively working against anyone trying to bring a little complexity into the game.
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Any nice mod to extend early game? getting a bit bored of AI towns having fully upgraded towns and settlements at turn 30
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>>164226058
>>164226098

But muh cavalry?
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>>164226107
For what possible fucking reason?
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>>164226223

>cavalry
>when you have helicopters and organ guns
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>>164226107
Having to think what you're gonna use each province for instead of just cramming every single building you can in all of them is not complexity?
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>>164226223
Who needs mobility when you have artillery and crossbows/firearms.
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>>164226241
don't know. Building chains cause a crash when you select a province.
Pretty frustrating. We could easily have had a rome 2 level complex tech tree. The code's there in the game.
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Big hats when?
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>>164226286
I was talking about building subchains.
>ooh, do I build this mint to increase my net money, or a gold mine to sell gold for a profit?
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>Gobbo Archers
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>>164226575
explain this meme please.
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>>164225178
Busy playing the game
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>>164226653
Azhag is harder to play because of his starting units
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>>164223457
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>>164226653
Azhag gets Goblin Archers as one of his starting units. Grimgor gets Black Orcs, Sigvald gets a Hellcannon, Karl gets Reiksguard.

Azhag gets Goblin fucking Archers. And he's angry about it, since YOU'RE MAKIN' ME ANGRY is one of his voice lines.
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>>164226772
>>164226803
thank you.
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Is darth mod worth it for shogun 2?

I'm playing it but I can't tell if it makes the game better or worse
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>>164224463

I love how Thorgrim's VA hams it up
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>>164227082
I don't think Shogun 2 needs any major mods, ymmv.
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I feel like Mannlet can solo the entire early game by himself. Does he stay this strong late game?
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>>164225643

Honestly it feel like Dumb and Dumber are actually Khorne percieved by the ork and goblins respectively, probably starting in the earliest day of the orks as a direct worship of the chaos god which transformed into a polytheism when orcs and goblins started to be defined as separate being of their own. Also it could have been accentuated by the reality manipulation power of the greenskins (I think its the same orks than in the warhammer 40k universe as far as I know, are they? please correct me if im wrong) so they became actual divinities of their own?

The horned rat is definitely Nurgle from start to end, the entire culture of infectious miasma that surround the Skaven sound far too close to home for papa Nurgle and if they aren't ruled directly by the old god, maybe a greater daemon of the guy?

For Hashut I have no idea, could be an ancestor that is worshiped in a way similar to how the dwarf seek to avenge the grudge of their ancestor/book of grudge? Or the way those Dawi run things it could be either Tzeentch due to all the planning that goes into running their little Babylonian empire or Slaanesh due to depravity and decadence of the entire civilization since its start.
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just need to work on a trade exchange and done.
Version 1 is ready.
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>>164226107

>guys the campaign is already boring as fuck how can we make it even more boring?
>how about simplifying building options so there is no ability to specialize provinces or settlements?
>fucking genius
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>>164227791
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>>164227590

Loses his raw killing power, but he's still the best caster and remains very versatile
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>>164227842
to be fair I managed to salvage a working system.

The saddest thing is that effectively you only get 4 building trees in the game. Military building tree. Economic building tree. Defense building Tree and Support Building tree.

This is RTS levels of simplification.
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When was Bretonnia coming out again?
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>>164226401
Look, the dwarfs want to be people!
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>>164228389
when the next expansion comes out stupid goy.
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>>164228389
February
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Is there a torrent download for Stainless Steel anywhere? The one on TWC is dead.
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Polearm, best arm.
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>>164227729
Not to really stomp on your post, but none of that is really more than personal headcanon.

Gork and Mork are explicitly the Greenskin's own gods, if they were in any way related to Chaos then the Greenskins would just be another chaos faction. The reality-bending power also doesn't apply to fantasy orcs, except that their shamans are more empowered by the force of a Waagh.

Horned Rat is also his own being, belonging to the Skaven, but fits into a niche between Nurgle and Tzeentch for both disease and ambitious scheming.

Hashut and the Horned Rat are actually leftovers from a time when Chaos was a lot more ambiguous and there was room for more entities than the current four corners of emotion. They already had factions attached to them, so they weren't just left by the wayside like Malal was.
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>>164228875
>The one on TWC is dead.

Every time.

>Old total war mod
>Mediafire/Megaupload link
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>>164229069
half the reason I still use Chaos Divided
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>>164229069
This man knows the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYuYxmICGo
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>>164227991
>This is RTS levels of simplification.

Sheeeet some RTS games have more complex meta than TW at this point. Campaign management in TW is virtually nonexistent. There are no granular aspects to it to speak of. Which is why I couldn't even finish a campaign in TWW, it's so fucking boring. By a certain point the battles aren't enough to keep me interested, especially since the AI shits the bed on campaign and my autoresolve is usually 99% most of the time.

If this is the future of TW then I'm out.
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Oh man Wurrzag is a ton of fun once you get the baleful mask.

>spam two magic misses into enemy ranks
> brainbursta a bunch of fuckbois
> cast overcharge foot of gork on the mangled remains
>'eadbutt some bitches that try to run up on me
>take off a quarter of the enemy lord's hp with effagee of da git
>cast 'ere we go on some boyz to clean up what's left
>cripwalk on the enemy's corpses

Lore of the Big Waagh is hugely underrated.
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>elves burn down the Oak of ages
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Who is the Johan of Creative Assembly?
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>>164229773
>playing the Season of Revelation campaign as Durthu
>Wood Elves declare war on me for muh trespasses
>run up the center toward the Waterfall Palace
>Oh okay, I can afford to lose a settlement, no big-
>"You're being attacked at the Oak of Ages!"
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>be hanging at kislev with your banshee gf
>this guy comes raiding your land and slaps her through her ass
wat do?
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>>164229092
I'm pretty sure in the canon that the horned rat was confirmed to be a greater daemon of nurgle. As per the end times books
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>>164230114
auto-resolve
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>>164229234
What's wrong with mediafire aside from them apparently redirecting you to shitty ad sites now?
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It's new year eve and you are summoning the elector counts? Geee, you are pathetic.
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Why is Kislev a thing anyway?

Like who is crazy enough to live there?
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>>164230612
Russians
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how do i get into these games
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Some dude posted a bunch of beastmen metal the other day, please post again
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>>164230567
>not righting the wrongs for the new year
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>>164218814
i bet she really knows how to S U C C
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>>164231359
Anvil your hammer with true understanding of strategy.
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>>164231359
Pick one from the time period you prefer and make sure you're not playing Rome 2

If there isn't a game for your period of choice, medieval 2 will have a mod
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>enemy army routs
>well i guess i can just gather up all my guys and heal up
>turn it up to max speed
>why the fuck are my grave guard wavering i just won the battle
>see another group start flashing
>wtf?
>it's archaon still fighting my skellies and i didn't notice him through the trees
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>>164226223
Gyrobombers and Irondrakes, go full Vietnam on the treehuggers
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>>164218137
Rollan
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>>164231359
Warhammer should be your first game, it's a nice intro to the series. Even paced battles and there's not a ton of shit going on in your face that you have to micromanage. The first 20 turns will be frustrating as fuck, but after about 3 days of playing the game you'll have a good understanding of what you need to do.

Shogun 2 has fast battles and the food mechanic. Great choice if you like clicking.

Med 2 was way too much for me, I'm not nearly good enough to manage everything that goes on in that game. I wouldn't recommend that as a starter.
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>>164232151
>treehuggers
Those retarded, bloodthirsty knife ears burn their own trees more often than not.
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>>164232206
Med 2 doesn't have that much going on in comparison to the other two, the hell are you talking about. The most complicated one I can think about is Attila.
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>>164221136

>republican rome
>not balls deep in politics

I'm embarrassed to share a thread with you.

The military conquests were basically just a backdrop to the civil/political intrigue of the eternal city.

Christ nigger go read some Shakespeare
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>>164231603
is the napoleon one good?
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Ah yes, my ol' foe Ol'frowner
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>>164230114
>that army
laugh while putting this fuckboi out of his misery
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Angryjoe put Total War: Warhammer number 3 on his best game list, suck it Cvilisations fans!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNAcIBJgj7A
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>>164220549

X2

I was reluctant to pick up Attila because I saw it as basically an expansion. What a mistake.

Atty is no doubt the best TW game (mechanically) I've played, Nostalgia aside.
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>>164232383
It's my favourite
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>>164229092

But aren't greenskins what we could call the closest to actual, genuine chaos? Maybe Gork and Mork are the original chaos gods or part of the pantheon and got shafted by the others gods because they were too much of a fucking bother and they never wanted to take part into their plans beyond fucking shit up in their own backyard, ironically they were too chaotic for chaos. Also if you take Khorne modus operandi you get something that is quite close to how orks behave in general.

Or maybe we are wasting our time because the Warhammer lore is like the Warcraft lore in how it get retconned and changed countless times over the decades, ending with a clusterfuck of cliffhangers, unresolved questions and general confusion at what was the fucking point of the entire thing.
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playing Rome 2. Playing with Rome, trying to conquer all Roman land.

What house should i play as?
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>you will never pray to Slaanesh to fix your balding
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>>164233163

I'd say chaos small c, yes, the Orks are more chaotic than emo-edgy-evil large C Chaos.
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>>164233245
Is it set up the same as Rome 1?
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>>164233283

She'd probably give you a literal cock head, so there always a bright side
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>>164233348
There is house Julia, Junia and Cornelia.
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>>164233431
>she
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Would it be a grudge if I appointed the book of grudges to a dwarf with dyslexia?
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Happy new year /twg/
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>>164233976
That's a Grudgin'
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>>164233641

Pronoun used in tons of the fluff

In 40k the DEldae literally use the name 'she who thirsts'.
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Well fucking shit, fighting Chaos as the Orcs is not fun at all if you're using regular boys and Big Uns. Also what is up with that absolutely laughable attack of the orc cav, the Big Uns cav has something like 23 attack rating.
They get absolutely slaughtered the second the charge is over.
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>>164233641
>>164234318
>>164233431
>>164233283

Why didn't Slaanesh make Sigvald hideous like everyone else?

What gives?
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>>164232526
MATE WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ARMY OF YOURS. YOURE NEVER GOING TO TAKE THIS SETTLEMENT.
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>>164235070
>Not having faith in Muncha edbuttin' the doors wide open
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>>164235070
Skarsnik campaign, Gobbos are the only units I can get.

Took it anyways, Nasty Skulkers are so good
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>>164235267
How, can they climb walls in stealth?
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>>164234912

He is utterly disgusting in the inside, so all Slaanesh had to do was to give him a appearance that would make most peoples become lusty animals on a single sight, an appearance that truly betrayed the being under the skin, the constrast is probably enough to get Miss Fuck-me-with-a-chainsword off.
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>>164234912
Because that's gross?
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Playable Sathorael, Ariel, Middenland, Averland, Mousillion/Red Duke/Kemmler and Krell, and Azhag moved up north when?

Release date for Bretonnia when?
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>>164233245

Julia is the "empire" family. It's the most imperialist of them, followed by Cornelia and then Junia, I'd say.
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>>164235709
Skulkers have Armor Piercing. I honestly don't know how, but attacking both sides of the settlement worked wonders. 2 Skulker units and a Goblin Spear unit took out 3 Quarrelers and 2 Axe infantry. Also helps that they were almost suffering attrition at that point, I just starved them out, won the battle, sacked the city, then razed it next turn.
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>>164232206
>Med 2 was way too much for me, I'm not nearly good enough to manage everything that goes on in that game. I wouldn't recommend that as a starter.
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Really fucking funny grimshit
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>>164234912
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>>164235854
Bretonnia and Bordeleaux are in Feb you nerd

90% of what you said is stupid, only middenland and red dick will become playable
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>>164235854
March
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>>164236031
Yeah that shit is pretty funny alright. You have to go ham on Grimcunt anyways eventually.
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>>164230498
Wait I fucked up. I thought that one was dead. I mistook it for something else it seems.
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>>164234708
Chaos crushes everyone, they're the end game.
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>>164232663
Hopefully that means he has played it privately, because that one stream was awful.
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Can anyone explain why Attila is better than Rome 2? People around here seem to hate Rome 2, but I found it fun. Is Attila even better?
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>>164236752
it's a meme
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G O B L I N S
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>>164236881
id don't get this picture what is going on?
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>>164236752
Personally it's the terrible disappointment that was the release that has made me resent the game and unwilling to give it another try
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Day 221
Warhammer is still shit.
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>>164237395

No it isn't. Most fun TW I've played. :)
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>>164237395
Day 221
Anon is still butthurt.
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>>164237547
yes you are
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>>164220007
Epic camera mods that let you get closer in / farther out are essential.
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>>164237812
>Epic
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>Mannlet von Cuckstein has offered to be your vassal
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>thinking about trying out EB2
>install m2tw
>start downloading eb2
>read up on instructions
> If you are a Steam user, and your M2TW is in Program Files or Program Files (x86) you need to move your game, or reinstall it outside of that folder. This isn't negotiable, you will not be able to patch or otherwise modify your EBII if the game is installed there.

lul
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Total War: Renaissance
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>Should we move?
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>>164238545
>CA will never give as an ECW DLC
>You will never crush the Irish scum
Thomas!
Get the pikes!
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>>164237395
It's great, my only beef is the dlc prices. 20 Syrup Bucks for welf or the beastmen each? Got dayum.
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>>164239720

My beef is that cavalry units can't dismount

Dismounted Blood Knights would be the shit
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>>164239720
19 Dollarydoos each, because of those shit mini campaigns they include with the races.
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Uhm, hello auto-resolve???
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>>164240095

siege for a few turns to get some towers so you don't lose as many troops auto-resolving familiam
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>>164223272
A BIB A TOOT
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>>164237886
That was the name of the Shogun 2 camera mod, something like "Epic Cinematic Camera"

The actual name may be different between games
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>>164240795
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>>164240795
>spartan Denmark

How unsettling.
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>>164235709
Units with stalk are OP against the AI in sieges.

>Deploy all non-stalk units on one side of map
>Deploy all stalk units on other side
>AI will deploy all their units on the non-stalk side
>start of the match, have one stalk unit climb wall, open gates
>bring all the stalk units and cav through that gate, rape enemy in their pooter
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anyone else not able to unlock certain achievements as the greenskins, playing wurrzag so i think that might be the issue for whatever reason

>achievements
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>>164241167
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>>164241086
We wos Greeks ånd shit!
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>>164241086
It's not like they could make it much gayer than it already is.
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the empire is weak! vlad von carstein will again make us mighty!
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>>164241482
>Gelt commanding the biggest force
No wonder they lost.
>Vlad has a cute waifu in his army
Nice
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>>164241409
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>>164241345
I've got a whole bunch of 'cheevos that should have unlocked but aren't, no idea what's up with that but I don't really care.
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Are the Bloody Handz fun? I'm looking for a good faction for my first Hard campaign. I tried the Greenskins and got my ass kicked.
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>>164241345
You can't unlock all of the Greenskin achievements as a Greenskin subfaction. You can't unlock all of the Dwarf achievements as the Dwarf subfaction. You can unlock achievements as the Wood Elf subfaction, though.
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>>164241601
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>>164241579
i like how they work together vlad debuffing enemies and buffing/healing my units and the vampire dealing damage to units and heroes
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>>164241629
sort of but not really.
Savage orc spam with wurzag is entertaining but they still kinda suck outside of his army.
Also, most of the campaign is just fighting orcs, even more so than the Greenskin campaign
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>>164241736
that's what i figured, something about the scripting not recognizing the bloody hands for whatever reason

gives me a reason to do a second greenskin campaign i guess
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>>164241764
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>>164241345
you must play specifically as Greenskins (so, Grimgor or Azhag) to unlock most of them

t. Somebody who raided 4 fucking k per turn as Skarsnik
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>Be superior Irishman
>Declare war on inferior local English "kingdom"
>Miss the Welsh, decide to go on a trip to liberate them
>I won't take an army, though. I'll do it on my own
>Should be no problem for myself.
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Jesus fuck, I don't think I can finish my Bloody Handz campaign. Still need to kill the Empire and they keep running away expanding.

My armies up there are actually fairly depleted by now and I can't send more up north cause the welfs obviously declared on me and for whatever damn reason so did the VC who used to be top buddys for the longest time.
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>have an army recruiting units, spent let's say 400g on it
>that army gets killed by an enemy

What happens to my money? Do I get it back or is it lost?

I'd assume I get it back but ya never know.
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Weekly reminder

https://imgur.com/a/fjAjA#pCuVa92
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>>164242092
Alt Clut is a Briton kingdom, mate.
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>>164242646

they all look the same to me m8 with their funky gutter language
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>>164242549
TW naval combat has always been hampered by having to balance gameplay and being sorta-kinda-maybe a little realistic. With warhams they can go full fantasy fun.
Shame it's never gonna happen.
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Haven't played Warhammer in a while, the campaign menu looks quite different and the game said something about Sarthorael being available because I finished the Chaos campaign.

Is he a lord now or what, I don't see him as a starting option.
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>>164243007
Available in MP, not SP.
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>>164242668
Fuck these guys take forever to die
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>>164242092
I want to play AoC but I despise the unit rosters. They're smaller and less varied than even the most obscure of vanilla R2 factions. Am I supposed to just get used to using twelve cards of the same unit for the entire campaign? Are there any mods that just add more guys to recruit?
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HAPPY NEW YEAR YA GITZ!
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i figured it out boys

I'm farm sacking a city to level up my generals. looking pretty good.
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>>164243154
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>>164243236
fuck off
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>>164243370
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You know, after fighting other barbars and horsefuckers for so long, going up against Romans and Spartans is actually being kind of tough.
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How will my historically accurate army stand up against north african savages?
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Happy new year fellow understanders of strategy.
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>>164243236

Skarsnik is cute. CUTE!
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>>164243236
Yes boss, you too boss
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>>164243748
>romans against random crappy spearmen
REALLY MANEUVERES MY MANIPLES
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>>164243720
had a similar issue in warhammer after wrecking the vampires i went after the dwarves and was caught off guard
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How do you not fail the Crooked Moon campaign? If I build an army first the Dwarfs go for a full stack aswell and they utterly crush my stalkers, I thought you guys said they're OP but mine have been blown the fuck out by regular Dwarven Warriors.
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>>164244776
gotta go for Karak Eight Peaks in the early game when your spider wastes everything. Slash and burn your way across the Border Princes and Badlands and you should have a 20 unit army+WAAGH by the time you get there.
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>>164244776
the spider you start with auto wins every battle
skulkers are for flanking, so you throw gobbos at them, then attack from the side or back with the skulkers. they get a huge bonus when they are winning in combat, so either you win hard or lose hard
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>>164244776
I got kinda lucky; moved down past the Dwarf army towards their other settlement, they tried to siege mine and I snapped up their capital.

Arachnarok can obliterate entire units and don't give a fuck about formations.
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>>164243236
Happy new year /twg/
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>>164243236
Merry birthday or whatever
>>
Wow, Rome II is actually still pretty un-fun and annoying to play
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>>164245664
>Wow, [Total War] is actually still pretty un-fun and annoying to play
We know

But no one refuses to break this monopoly
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>>164245664

you can do that with the 3 starting boats, stop being shit
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>>164246004
Posted wrong one
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>>164241764
>>164241601
>>164241409

Sweet jesus turn that bloom down!
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Guys, I don't what it is but....why is rome 2 so boring? I try to get into it but it just isn't fun after you play as a few factions, it gets so repetitive
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>>164246183

what mod
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>tfw you will never STAB
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>>164246658
why not?
Tonight's the perfect night for sneaky stabbin!
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>>164246970
Tonight is the night!
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I wish they would add araby to the game so i can genocide them
>>
POO POO PEE PEE GET THESE STUNTIES AWAY FROM ME
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>experience increases the damage inflicted by your arrow
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Holy fucking shit the dorfs are OP early game.
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>>164248230

Actually leveling a unit up increases their rate of fire. Missile damage on the stat sheet is over 10 seconds, not per shot.
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>>164248308
pretty neat
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Can someone offer some advice?
>Trying out Greenskins for my first campaign on hard
>Have failed twice now but my 3rd attempt is going better
>Just kicked Karak Azul's shit in, now they want peace
>They have no army so theoretically I could kill them but it'd take time
>All my province's are about to rebel
>The reason I always fail is because Thorgrim usually shows up around turn 20 and slaps my shit, I am approaching turn 20 now
>I just got my first WAAGH
What do I do? It seems like I am damned if I do, damned if I don't. I'd love to make peace, but what are the odds he just declares war on me when he is able? I just want to make the stunties fuck off long enough for me to put together a proper army.
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>>164248308
I believe it also increases the unit's accuracy?
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>>164248774
pros use auto-resolve
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>>164248774
Build walls
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>>164248774

Raid your own regions to get early waaaghs. It generates waaagh points for the army by raiding then more waaagh points by defeating the rebel army that spawns. Obviously wanna recruit orc boyz or gobbos every turn til you hit 17 soldiers before the rebel army spawns so you can get the instant waaagh. After that I would say to go straight to karaz a karak since it has a nice building in it and it takes out an annoying confederating powerhouse.
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>>164248774

Learn how to defend sieges. Rebellions are your friend as greenskins.
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What Total War other than Warhammer(already have it) should I get before the sale finishes?
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>>164249257
Fots
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>>164246004
Can do what?
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>>164248258
That's their gimmick.
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>>164248258
>16 melee attack cav

Why is the goblin cav even a thing and why would anybody ever recruit them, even the renown regiments are dogshit.
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>>164249257
Napoleon or rome1/med2
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>>164249640
Because they're fast as shit and have shields. They have an extremely obvious use if you come in to it with a tabletop mentality. I mean, fuck. Goblin Spearmen get silver shields. They block projectiles more effectively than Dwarf Warriors do.
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>>164218653
rolling
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>>164249914
But even archers will fight them off, what can they ever do.
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>>164250081
But that's the point. Speed means a more significant impact on the charge, they don't need huge melee stats. They can just slam in to the sides or rear of any enemy unit and disrupt the entire formation.
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>>164250081
Hunt artillery
chase down routing units very quickly
Rear charge things that are already engaged, mostly for the morale hit

They have their niche because other greenskin cavalry is really slow despite hitting much harder
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>>164242834
I want to believe anon.
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>>164249914
I wish the spiders were actually useful. They're too slow to do what wolf riders do, don't do enough damage to replace boar boyz, and then there's squigs which I haven't played with yet since the patch where the best greenskin stack was just mass squig spam.
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>>164242549
auto resolve only
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>>164248774
>>164249067

Never played Orks, how the Waaagh thing shown in game?

Do you get multiple stacks or something?
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How do I upload my total war atilla chronicles thing from the game, or can I use a slider to flick through it when I finish the campaign
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>>164250556
These motherfuckers really are hard to beat. The Barbar armies really don't seem very suited going up against heavily armored dudes.
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dubs decide which total war i get
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>>164251427
Eu4 with DLC bundle
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>>164249257
shogun2/FOTS
Shogun 2 is best vanilla total war, a bunch of small clans become several larger powerful ones, combat is very fast and harder than FOTS "have 4 armstrong and win" brilliant tactics . Realm Divide makes the mid-late game pretty crazy, yet kind of tedious at sea.

FOTS crippling problem is that AI doesn't make much artillery, so it pretty much kills any fun in the game, while you can still fuck up in Shogun. AI in Shogun 2 is a lot better overall.
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>>164251141
When they perform enough violent actions they generate an AI controlled stack that you can give vague orders. Completely free and 100% disposable, it's neat.
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>>164249254
Not when you only have one army. Basically this is how my campaign is right now
>Beat the shit out of the Red Fangz and had them confederate with me by turn 2
>Karak Azul immediately came to fight me since we then shared a border
>Beat the shit out of them with Grimgor
>Am now only on turn 13 but most of my provinces are a turn or two from rebellion
>Grimgor and his WAAGH are in dorf territory and can't really back up and of my settlements
I'm also expecting Thorgrim to show up soon. He was the reason I lost in my other two campaigns. Really the problem I have is the dorfs are too high in number. I can manage one army, but honestly they are just too OP early game for it to be winnable if you're fighting two stacks. One stack sometimes depending on the map is a bit much.
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>>164251187
It comes up once you finish the campaign.
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what now

other than fixing this fucking resolution that is
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>>164252329
You take the entire peninsula.
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>>164252329
also

fireworks got my dog goin'

send help

>>164252509
hell yeah senpai

but then what, carthage or the gauls
>>
> Tomb Kings still not announced
>>
Napoleon or Rome, which would you say is better in your opinion? Thinking of picking one up in the steam sale but dont want to buy both, I wont play both. Already have Medieval 2.
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>>164252709
hug dog
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>>164252709
Why not both?
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>>164252992
>skeleton post
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>>164248774
One tactic that I've used with early game Orcs is like exactly what >>164249067 says: raid your own regions for the fightiness that comes with the stance & beating the rebels. With a Waaaagh!! you can use it to take out Karak Azul, or block Thorgrim's charge, or jump the stuntie bitch.
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fucking traits, how do they work?
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>>164253487
Clearly a savant.
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>164253487
>I aint stupid, I know the streets
>>
>tfw stuffing a large pizza down my gullet
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>more than 1000 kills can't be read
that's a grudgin'
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>>164251427
WAAAAGHammer
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>>164251427
G O B B O S
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2017
AE
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>>164253943
Hell yeah brother, taking swigs from ol turkey
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>>164251427
Warhams total war
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>>164251427
If this post is a 5, you get Warhammer.
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>>164256395
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>>164256546
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>>164257052
>playing on new years eve
Are you being ironic
>>
Thorgrim or a Runelord for AoE buffing and grudging welfs?
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>>164257103
Sister leaves tomorrow, so I opted to go out yesterday and stay at home today. Also

>going out on new years eve
>>
god I wish that warhammer has the duel type animations instead of this 'freestyle' type you have in M2. It just looks so underwhelming when you zoom a fight between swordsmen and goblins and it's just a bunch of ballerina dancing
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>>164226107
but reddit doesn't like complexity.
after all the only good parts of total war are the battles ;)
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G O B L I N S
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>>164226107
>CA actually put a max number of building allowed per race
Actually? How so?>>164226163
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>>164257309
this, it's fun paying attention to a single soldier and seeing what they get up to.

Webm related, it's the general himself who is the only man that was left in his garrison
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>>164257309
It also really suck when you zoom in on combat and all you're seeing is just units shuffling back and forth looking for someone who wants to start an animation with them
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>>164257984
They could've improved the system instead of taking the lazy as fuck way out and scrapping it completely.
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>>164251427
Shogun 2
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>>164257307
>That Roman army composition

Why is AI so bad at putting together armies?
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>>164258449
but it's literally SOLID defence
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>>164257545
This gobbo carpet pleases me. I strike a grudge from the book tonight
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>>164258449
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>>164258608
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>>164258502
>>164258608
Fucking rorarii are levy spears tier garbage and doubly so against javelin crazy iberians. I know the ai doesn't build armies to counter strengths of who they're fighting, but something better than 1 hastati and a bunch of leves shouldn't be hard.
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>>164257103
fuck off normie
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>>164258817
Why are rorarii so bad?
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>>164258112
Making matched combat animations for every single skeleton type sounds like a complete nightmare
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>>164258778
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Its been a while so remind me. Is Vanilla Medieval 2 AI hardwired to hate you off the bat. It seems that 90% I'm getting declared war on by half the other nations.
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>>164258982
Yes
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>>164258904
They're the roman equivalent of levy spears. Terrible cheap spear unit that can barely beat back celtic light horse.
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>Be me, new to TW
>Start getting the hang of Warhammer
>Start noticing that I constantly crave more
>Not getting shit done at work cause all I can think of is TW
>Get home, little party going on at my house
>Instead of getting blasted just play Warhammer for 12 hours
>Afraid this addiction will ruin me if it doesn't taper off

What the fuck makes this game so addictive? God damn, all I want to do is play TW.
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>>164258937
You hit the black hole. NOICE
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>>164259319
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Empire needs more unit variety early game and more starting positions. No fun allowed
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>>164259354
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>finally decided to play vampire counts
holy fuck they're fun as hell, why didn't I play them sooner
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>>164259296
the delusions of grandeur it causes
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>>164259416
>swords, spears (shields), crossbows, free company, flagellants, pistoliers
Not too bad without an armory
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>>164259592
>armies consist of swords, free company and crossbowmen because everything else is useless in comparison
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>>164259712
flagellants for VC, spears for bretonnia?
Both are decent against beastmen
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>>164259583
I think it has something to do with the being addicted to how fucking good it feels to watch waves of soldiers crash into each other
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On hard how fast will the AI shit out another stack? I've got a WAAGH and I'm contemplating sending them to fuck the dorfs, but seeing as how they get literal cheat codes something tells me my WAAGH will get buttfucked
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Gonna play Rome 2 for the first time in about an hour lads, anything of import I absolutely need to know?

>>164259712
flagellants are great early game, particularly if you have volkmar. pistoliers are also great early game.
Really the only thing I would really wish for is the ability to choose which lore you get from the free wizard quest

>more starting positions
definitely needs some variety here. I don't think adding middenland is going to help a lot either. CA gibe kislev plz.
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>>164259836
by the time you're fighting VC you're going to have unit variety so sure... spears for bretonnia is fair. But the 30 turns you spend fighting other empire factions is just swords
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>>164260017
AI is dumber than rocks and won't properly use multiple stacks. With a WAAGH you can really do whatever you want until it goes away. Perfect opportunity to take out that garrisoned city that they're camping with another army.
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>>164260170
Stirland is in my experience rather easy to confederate, less so than Tabalclelenamd
So you can run into them pretty early
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>>164260262
I'm not going to be with my WAAGH, my intent is to just leave them to finish off the AI while I go and deal with a fuck ton of rebels.
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>>164260290
why is Tabec and Stirland so easy to confederate anyway?
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So which one should I buy: rome 2, attila, warhammer
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What are they doing?
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>>164260343
Usually better to mass your forces IMO but hey do whatever you want. On hard the AI can put together a high tier stack in like 3 turns. But again, they're fucking dumb so they'll probably just sit in their capital for another dozen turns.
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>>164260470
Making use of the lumber in the forest.
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>>164260448
Tab gets put under pressure because they have an awful province layout, and you start with a treaty/possible trade with stirland I suppose
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>>164260470
What mod?
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>>164260469
depends what you're looking for
>>164260448
They're surrounded by other empire factions so tend to end up in a bunch of wars they can't win, which makes the AI confederate-happy. Usually results in not being able to confederate with Middenland until end times tho so proceed with caution
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>>164260469
Warhams
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>>164260469
you like Ancient Rome, Barbar invasions or fantasy?
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=793069131
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So what do alliances mean in terms of me declaring war on someone who has one, or if my ally is attacked, in Medieval 2?
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>>164220121
>Unlimited special unit recruitment
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>>164260792
If only it was that easy. I like all of these but can only afford one.
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>>164261269
get the cheapest one
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Is it bad to play a slow and steady buildup on Dwarves? Seems like if I go out before I at least get greatweapons Grimgor will be running around with a doomstack using Black Orcs that push my shit in hard. Lately I've been just using my first 20 turns to build up Silver Road as much as possible, then heading out and taking battles. The problem is that about half the time Barak Var gets taken immediately by the greenskins and the dwarves up north get fucked by vampires, leaving me boned on both sides.

The other half of the time they do fine and my first real stack I shit out tends to have at least greatweapons and longbeards, and I proceed to play the campaign normally.

What do y'all do?
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>>164261616
I go north and ignore the badlands because I don't want to deal with that shit early on.
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why do castle in medieval 2 willfully charge out to attack a weak army of mine when I have a strong one in reinforce range that gives me the balance of power?
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>>164261616
My Angrund campaign is on turn 572.

Slow and steady, anon.
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>>164260470
>He doesn't know
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>>164261736
I just try to prevent the greenskins from taking Barak Var and begin mustering my forces to start doing campaign objectives. Worked so far but you're right, the badlands is a bitch. Crooked Moon and Greenskins fucking everywhere, lots of ground to cover out there.
>>164261891
Potato ai
>>164261984
I've just built up Death Pass, turn 97. I thought I was taking too long to do my campaign. Thank you for putting me at peace
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>>164261891
Same reason you try and destroy a smaller force well there reinforcements are arrving. Though the AI is retarded so could be bad programming
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>>164261616
>What do y'all do?
Capture starting province
BUILD WALLS (garrison level 2 building in all settlements - priority)
send low unit, low tier army to sack weakly held greenskin settlements
use money to upgrade starting province
always save some to recruit second army if grimgor starts heading up to me
once I have the buildings and cash for higher tier units I go capture black crag
campaign pretty much steamrolls after that
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alright gits, post yer mod list
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>>164262264
Radious
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>>164262264
Steel Faith
Steel Faith
Steel Faith
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>>164262264
>no confederation
mandatory until treehuggers get patched
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>>164262185
I've gotten all of Death Pass with two 20 stack armies with veteran units, around turn 90. I did something similar to what you've done but I usually don't build a Garrison in every settlement I have. Normally for minor settlements I always try to get one growth building and one economy building, and any unique buildings and in the province 'capital' I stack up garrisons, unique buildings, and use them to pump out new units.
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Nasty magics...
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how do i play skarsnik help
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>>164262672
All you have to do is ______________________________________________________STAB
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who here
>spams walls
if you don't spam walls the AI will always 100% ignore everything else and just go for the unwalled settlements
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>>164262672
Build a 19 stack army, use your Hero to break down the walls of Karak Norn as many times as you can, siege it, wait for attrition to set in and auto-resolve that mother fucker.

Also, on the campaign map, press 9. Only capture those settlements and the ones near it. It'll save you a TON of trouble. Get to the pale orange Dwarves (up by Marienburg) before Elf Hitler does, or at least take that Dwarf hold.

Underground Tunnel everywhere, don't do trespasses unless you absolutely have to. The last thing you need is the Border Princes or the Empire being fuckheads with your cities.

BUILD WALLS AND GARRISONS IN EVERY FUCKING CITY. YOU WILL NEVER, EVER REGRET THIS DECISION IN ANY TWW CAMPAIGN YOU EVER PLAY. EVER.

Go for a Red focus and splash either yellow or blue depending on how you want to campaign. Sack a city first for free cash money, then go back and occupy it. It will accelerate your building process like crazy.
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>>164263018
Are the garrison and sacking tactics useful in other TW games? As in garrison the fuck out of everything and sack>occupy?
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>>164262672
dont use gobbo archers
leap from to get grimhold and maybe sack an empire city on the way
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Is building Mannfred towards melee a bad idea? People seem to say his magic is the best.
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>>164263529
I personally despise magic like an angry god, so I don't use it if I can help it
but Vlad and Mannfred have god tier powers like resurrect, heal and such.
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>>164263529
Vamps are amazing at basically anything. You can't go wrong. Having a Lore of Vampires caster in your army is very, very important, but it doesn't have to be Mannfred himself.
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>>164236884
Goblins...
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>>164262550
>I usually don't build a Garrison in every settlement I have
I can't stand how the enemy auto-homes in on your weakest settlement. Regardless, once you get the starting province and black crag under your control the campaign is pretty much won t b h
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>>164263529
He doesn't really need to kill things, and his self-healing will keep him alive until he runs out of his stupid fucking regen cap.
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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Finally dude
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>>164264147
damn anon
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>>164263757
>there are """"""""""people"""""""""" who actually think the original version of this is good writing
stupid weebs
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Do all new TW games have those disgusting ability buttons and capture points? I might reinstall med 2 DLC. I never gave them a chance.
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>Flaming shot rolling down hill and killing people in its way
Honestly, if Attila didn't have such a boring setting, it would be the best game in the series
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>>164264332
Japanese to English translation always sounds strange and imo doesn't convey the ideas properly. That's all fine and dandy, except people are influenced by these translations and native english speakers start making fan works written like this like it's a good thing or something. I'll never understand it.
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>>164264537
The setting is the one thing preventing me from getting Atilla. I'm just not super interested in late antiquity and barbarian invasions. Gameplay looks tight though. Maybe I'll just look up some shit about the period and make myself interested in it.
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>>164262264

Steel Faith
Better Camera
Better Building Icons
Better Snow Textures
Improved border colors
Improved Loading Screen Art

just get steel faith, totally worth it, it makes WE actually good
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>>164264537
that and the faction tree bugs and the shitty performance...
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>>164264537
>>164264706

>tfw im one of the 10 people on /twg/ that really enjoys Late Antiquity
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>>164264848
>shitty performance
I have not experienced this
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>>164264916
I think it's because all I hear about this period is two things primarily

>Rome was falling for some reason
>Also Atilla was a bad ass. And fucked lots of bitches.

If I could expand on my knowledge of the era a little more I'd become interested in it. I'd like to know about the fate of various civilizations involved in the period, and what led to their fates. Not just the Romans and the Huns.
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>>164264916
I've always been a huge fan of the migration period ever since I learned about it at school.

Dozens of us, bro.
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>>164264934
are you just here to brag about testing memeval mod
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>turn 4 in Rome 2
>already bored
goddamnit
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>>164265319
Go back to Warhammer. We miss you.
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>>164265413
TWW has literally invalidated every historical TW.
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>>164265413
I've played each faction so much...guess I'll do another dwarf run...
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>>164265532
Good. We shall strike a grudge in the Dammaz Koron to commemorate your return
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>>164265680
thanks anon
happy new year!
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>>164264537
>>164264706
Then play Age of Charlemagne
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dude, I haven't visited this general since last year hahaha
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>Hilarious Bestia
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>>164265817
Big Charlie looks unfinished

>MKTW campaign literally fucking never
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>>164264585
I meant the idea in general
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How do I best utilize matchlock units in Shogun 2?
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>>164265932
Do you mean how it fails to raise a real ethical dilemma about the situation or just the situation in general? Cause it seems like it starts to ask the reader an ethical question then just blows dick on the execution of said matter
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>>164265817
>each faction gets a grand total of three units

Yeah, nah. Nah.
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>>164266119
put them on a HILL IF YOU WANT YOUR INFANTRY TO BLOCK FOR THEM

alternatively interspace them between your infantry and be ready to pull them back if you see cavalry anywhere
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>>164264501
Please reply before sale ends.
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>>164266119
They're gods at castle defense. Putting them on the second level and having them shoot down at mustering enemies who just climbed the first is a bloodbath. Plus they break morale easily.

In the field they're a lot more situational. You either need a nice hill or be in a position to give the enemy a surprise volley and not have them get caught in a melee. Still, the fear effect is powerful.
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>>164266323
med 2, including dlc, doesn't really have cap points (except 1 in a siege) or unit abilities.
Warhams also only has single cap points in siege only but tons of abilities and the game kind of revolves around them - however, they're all tied to special units and normal units have no user-triggered abilities
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>>164266206
yeah
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>charlie had a high pitched voice
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Hey guys, I'm playing Rome II and I can't tell if the Greek giant ballista's are better or the heavy onagers are better. Being able to move them doesn't really matter to me that much. I'm more aimed towards accuracy
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>>164266482
Cap points I can live with, abilities I can not. Are there mods for rome 2 which remove them?
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>Greenskins campaign on Hard
This shit is so fucking annoying holy hell I fucking hate stunties.
>Just wanna build my Black Orc Forge
>Finally kill the shitty dorfs to the south of me
>Now Thorgrim invades out of fucking nowhere and sacks Iron Rock
>Slap his shit, suddenly he wants peace I wonder why
>Literally 10 turns later he declares war again and sacks Iron Rock then pisses off
>Those fucking purple dorfs then come out of nowhere right when I rebuild it and sack it
>Literally the next turn they confederate with Thorgrim so that wouldn't have even happened had the fucked been a turn faster
>Rebuild Iron Rock for like the 4th time
>Now the dorfs to the south of me have broken the non-aggression pact I made them sign to survive just so I could stop worrying about them and I could go deal with Thorgrim
I wonder why he'd break that pact. I wonder what is about to happen. JUST STOP FUCKING WITH ME, GIVE ME LIKE 5 TURNS. WHEN IT ISN'T THEM IT IS THE FUCKING REBELLIONS THAT ARE DOING ME IN.
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>>164218137
Rolling
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disband the starting Hammerers in the Angrund campaign for +459G a turn Y/N?
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>>164267408
orcs are all about holding the main region in each province so don't worry so much about the outlaying regions until you eliminate the enemies and can consolidate. Your objective should be to hit weak targets (including rebellions - farm them!) until you can generate a WAAGH then sack/occupy as many dwarf holds as you can. Once the rebellion runs out retreat to your provinces and farm rebellions again.
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>>164267595
>Once the rebellion runs out
sorry, once the WAAGH runs out
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How well does using priests/similar agents to start rebellions work in Attila?
Faggot Sassanids captured a town just as I was about to siege it, and I don't want to go to war with them yet.
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>>164267683
Is there a way to make your WAAGH follow you? I keep trying to keep up with them, but they are faster than me and they wind up getting ransacked in fights without me to help them.
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>>164267843
YOU control the WAAGH. Move where you want and the WAAGH follows, elsewise click a WAAGH target and let them get there by themselves.
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Are they ever going to add the Dark Elf master race so i can enslave pathetic low class scum in my S&M rape dungeons and kinky pleasure cities?
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>>164267843
if you don't give a waagh a command they just follow you. they go the turn after you so you don't have to worry about enemies moving between your turns. You can do stuff like get within reinforcement range of an army then command your waagh to attack that army then end your turn. Doesn't always work due to wonky AI. However, sieging/encircling a settlement then waiting a turn for the AI to catch up works well.

Also note that if you're stationary and you don't have a WAAGH target they'll usually start raiding your province.
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I haven't played Warhammer since release and went full autism on a Dwarf run, taking over/destroying the entire map on VH. I bought all of the DLC in the recent sale, not that it was a big discount, but is it even worth playing with elves being the way they are? I keep reading about them absolutely dominating the map and if they consistently do this, it'll be really dull playing the campaign.
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>>164268316
"no confederation" or "no AI bonus to confederation" mods are both good for hamstringing the treehuggers
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Are the Elves really that bad? I remember hearing everyone saying they sucked, but now everyone calls them Tree/Elf Hitler.
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>>164268579
the shit AI cheats so hard they get endgame units and income by like turn 30 which is why everybody hates them - they dominate the campaign.
They were never bad but reddit fags whined and got them patched super OP.
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Happy fuckin new year, /twg/!
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>>164268408

I read the first one fucks over the other factions as well. I'll check out the second one, thanks.
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>>164263967
You're not the only one.

Also I know a girl that drew this piece of Morathi. She plays Warmachine/Hordes and Guild Ball around.

>Morathi is love
>Morathi is life

Can't wait for Morathi is Total War and Age of Sigmar.
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Happy new years to all the stunties, pukeskins, forest hitlers, rotting assholes, and dicks with fancy hats
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M O R A T H I
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>>164263967
Gotta get some of that 4000 year old MILF pussy
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>>164269634
M O R E A T H I
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>>164269708
>best pussy
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>>164269634
>>164269775
a shit
bringing down based Witch King every century
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What determines when you CAN and when you CANNOT hire regiments of renown. I think you have to be in friendly territory but I'm not sure...
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>>164269920
We all know that best elf is Kouran but Morathi is the second one.
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>>164229773
mike simpson.
Only he looks formidable instead of a fat weeb neckbeard.
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>>164230114
Slap his ass back, now you have 2 gfs.
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Happy new years guys.

At first I was sad that Brets weren't released in 2016.

But now I'm happy that they'll be the first update in 2017.
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anyone got any tips for the Empire campaign. The start is easy enough but by turn 50 or so I'm usually getting swamped by enemies because the Wood Elves are stupidly OP and the eastern electors suck at dealing with Gobos and VCs
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>Skarsnik has Likes Dwarfs
into the book it goes
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Who should I pick as my starter Lord for Greenskins? I'm leaning toward Skarsnik since I've always liked goblins, but I don't want to make a strategically terrible decision simply based on my aesthetic tastes.
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how do i overcome the intense need to quit a campaign when one thing goes wrong?
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>>164270806
You quit the campaign
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>>164270774
>goblins

Grimgor iz da best
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>>164270687
mod the wood elves until they aren't retarded. I'm serious. All you can do until CA fixes the mess they made.
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just did my first campagin in attila where i played as the jutes and tried to conquer britain while making friends with the surrounding norse factions

it was going well for a while but the calledonians and picts teamed up on me, couple that with the near constant rebellions i was having and eventually i lost my original family leader general and from there things fell apart; i got btfo pretty hard

not sure if this had more to do with me sucking at the game or the jutes units sucking but it was fun to lose for once, might give the jutes another go now that i sort of know what i'm doing but i'm not sure. what's the best starting out faction to play as?
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Why would anyone ever get Squigs when the alternatives are just so much better AND cheaper?
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>>164270806
savescum
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how soon will they fix a part of the game after reading reddit this time?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/5l47l7/total_war_warhammer_end_of_2016_discussions/
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>>164271245

If you have Empire of Sands, I've found pretty much any of those, besides the horde one, are a good place to start. Good units, some rely a lot on religion mechanics, and you don't even have to deal with Attila.
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>>164271560
Because all three varieties of Squid get AP damage, something O&G badly lack in general.
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>>164271245

>>164271679 is right, the desert factions all have access to armoured camel warriors, which have pretty crazy impact damage and do decently against enemy cavalry.
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>>164264537
The map really kills me. Same as Barbarian Invasion. The borders are so messy.
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>>164219948
Shogun2 IMO
Fantastic art, map, units, and setting. They get it just right.
Nothing puts you in the mood like that game.
I'm saying this even as a huge rome history nerd, and a massive warhammer fan.
Attilia for the polished mechanics
Warhammer for... warhammer, and blood (It's surprisingly disappointing, magic is meh, large units don't add much, races feel oddly same'y)
Rome 2 is just shit.
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ok
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>>164272479
>Races feel oddly same'y
I only feel Chaos and Dwarves share this problem, mainly because it's spam two units with heavy armour and then wait 10 minutes(Longbeards & Quarrelers, Chosen & Chaos Knights)
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Should I buy Beastmen?
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happy new year /twg/
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you need to confederate to get the other cool legendary lords? cannot conquest?
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What's the major changes between Napoleon & Empire? I love Empire to bits and I'm about to start another darthmod + AUM + CB playthrough, but if Napoleon is on sale I'm not sure if it'd be worth getting.
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>>164273020
They play like Skarsnik but with better goblins and a horde
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>>164273209
Well, Napoleon is only Europe

now I want to play it again, even though it's sort of shitty
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>>164227025
>mfw
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>>164273209
Napoleon is better in every way except for the fact that you don't really get a grand campaign
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>angrund
>hard
>mutinous gits have one(1) region
>They have 3 full stacks
FUUuuuck this shit
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Off-topic but somewhat related, are the Battlefleet Gothic and Man O'War games any good?
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>>164273806
Does this look like a fucking Warhammer general to you? Fuck off.
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>>164272701
Maybe I'm just a huge casual but... to me a unit who shoots arrows feels the same as any other. Doesn't matter if he's an orc, human, dwarf... Only units that functionally have to be used differently stand out.

To me the warhammer universe is all about personality. Not great character necessarily, but that iconic look of people/buildings/design, the way the races act in their own way, and how different each race feels.

TW: Warhammer manages to fuck that all up. Even the small settlement fights take place in the flat boring plains that make up 95% of the game's visuals.

And that's the problem. It's not warhammer. The units almost all function the same as something else. The game is just a bunch of tiny guys running around an oversized battlefield (making it difficult to appreciate the aesthetic). The units don't say much. The generals don't give pep talks before battles. They even went back to the old shitty looking building cards from rome2 that everyone fucking hated.

There is so much shared between the races that nothing feels mechanically unique, with some rare exceptions here and there. But certainly too little. Especially for an IP like warhammer.

The only time it "feels" like warhammer is when I take time out of being a good general to zoom in and watch the shittly animated fighting.

tldr; tw: warhammer might have something going for on the total war meta level, but otherwise it could just be any other total war to a normie like myself. Especially when 97% of the game's 'personality' comes from some old tzeech geezer.
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>>164274438
You're overgeneralizing it. It's like saying 'well total war sucks cause at the end of the day you're just commanding people to fight each other'
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>>164218137
here we goo
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>>164274438
I can really only agree with you about the battle maps, settlements and sieges; they really are a huge let down. Apart from the Chosen-esque like units, i feel every faction has a stark contrast to one another (especially when you compare them to Attila)
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>>164274438
I have to disagree. Although there are aspects that could be improved, especially town battles and certain quest. I feel like it represents warhammer plenty well. They just need to flesh out the minor factions, add town battles and maybe some river battles too and the game will feel much better.

When you play a faction with a bit of RP, and actually focus on the details its actually really good.
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>>164272671
>accept or we will attack
>please do not attack
the classic
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I WANT TO FUCK A DEMON
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>Shogun 2
Always a blast to play when you're in the mood to play as Japs. The art style for the game is great, is colourful and vibrant. The only downsides imo is the AI cheats like a bastard on anything harder than normal. The dueling mechanic for units is cool, but also means your super-samurai can hold of twice as many units as the queue up to get killed. Rise of the Samurai is kind of boring from a gameplay stand-point, it feels like smaller scale battles and even more limited unit types. Fall of the Samurai is great, probably the best gunpowder TW out there. That being said, the late-game battles can be extremely boring when you get Parrott guns that can fire close to half the battle-maps' length, meaning AI will usually rout within seconds of actually meeting your forces.

Warhammer fantasy is like any standard fantasy setting. Everything in it is usually based off of something from reality, then given a fantasy twist. Visit lexicanum, wikis or 1d4chan to learn more about it. TW is pretty decent in letting you take a step into the Fantasy World, but it doesn't really have much depth in exploring or absorbing lore.
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>>164275391
meant for
>>164219948
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Just noticed after all this time that I didnt have the addon for Medieval 2, is it worth getting or what, never really heard mention of it before.
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And this is why you don't bring horses to a siege. Get fucked horse fuckers
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How good is Steel Faith really?
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>>164276257
You mean kingdoms? If so, get it
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>>164251427
Rome 1
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Evens Border Prince crusade to purge the north
Odds and I finally do belegar
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>>164276381
Very. And the developer relies on the feedback in the workshop forums w/ updates tri-daily+ Also, new AI soon
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>>164276802

I was just reading some of his comments, he seems really responsive. Are the updates he puts out typically compatible with current campaigns? I think I'll give it a try.
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>>164276787
so there's two ways to do belegar:
1. Blitzkrieg across the badlands. Burn a bunch of ork and BP settlements for the funds for RoR and dwarf warriors
2. Go slow and and ally with karak norn to take out skarsnik. You can then slowly advance and confederate with the other dwarf factions.
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>>164276864
Yea. It'd be crazy if they weren't with that much updates
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This scene is so INTENSE, woah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ySgb8pqXzM
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>>164218023
Napoleon Total War Collection Steam Key

KK6ZE-YG8JJ-Q6I0C

humble bundle key, happy new year
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>>164272479
Faggot
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>>164277135
enjoyed the movie
kind of tired as knights templar being the go-to bad guys these days though
a bunch of my ancestors belonged to their order which encouraged me to look into their history
we dindu nuffin. How come the knights hospitaller always get shown as the good guys? I blame dan brown.
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>>164277225
I don't need it personally since I think it has the worst campaign ever but I still *tip* my hat to you for offering it to other anons.
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>>164275391
Do you recommend Rise of the Samurai at all? I'm considering getting it during the sale just because it's the only DLC I don't own besides the meme unit pack
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>>164276381
Overrated While the campaign change are okay, the battle tweaks are stupid and unbalanced to hell.
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>>164277135
>bring thousands all the way down from Damascus to Jerusalem
>withdraw u faygot
>ok
wtf
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>>164277225
holy shit thank you anon
I'd post proof of the success but I was a faggot and didn't cap it at the moment

you're a bro
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Is wood elves worth it? kinda bored of the other factions at the moment
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>>164277774
yeah they are pretty unique campaign
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>>164277774
if you play the game a lot, I'd say yeah. Basically 2 campaign's worth, depending if you go Durthu or Orion. If you;re the patient type just wait for a sale though
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What does the Attila launcher trick in the pastebin do exactly that causes an increase in FPS? That would mean I would have to install Rome 2 as well, yeah?
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>>164277953
>>164277981
What the hell, not like I have anything better to do on new years
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>>164278291
you also can't use mods that way.
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>>164278687

I feel Attila is pretty good without mods anyhow, but that's good to know. It should say that in there.
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Well, here we go. Recruitable blazing suns for everyone.
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>use no confederation mod
>switch to "no ai bonus to confederation" mod 50 turns in
>treefuckers completely confederate in 3 turns anyway
>conquer half of brettonia within 8 turns
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>>164279548
why does altdorf have 10 slots?
mod link?
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>>164279879
its on steam, lad.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=824817852
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>>164279940
pretty cool, I assume this makes capitals much harder to conquer?
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>>164267408

Just build it at Black Iron Mine. Trying to hold onto Iron Rock early game is only reasonable if you can eliminate Dwarfs extremely early.
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>>164279987
not really.
you can build up more shit in your provinces though.
It triggered me that I could build everything in every province so I started making this mod.
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>>164267408
Happening to me right now
>Take over Iron Rock
>It's a back and fourth between me and Thorgrim winning and losing battles
>33 turns in
>Only have Black Crag and Iron Rock
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>>164277532
For $4 CAD, you can't go wrong.
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>that moment when you remember to switch all your provincial commandments from growth to something else
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>>164280178

Meanwhile if you ignore Iron Rock Thorgrim spends the early game shitting on Gorfang instead of you, which will eventually lead to him opting for confederation.

Play your cards right from there and you can have the badlandsb owl over in the first 40 turns.
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>>164280407
The advisor gave me the impression it was important
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Ok, lads, here's where my mod is right now.

>you can build roads increase movement speed for a flat upkeep cost
>you can build supply depots to vastly increase replenishment rate, remove local attrition modifiers and reduce army upkeep for a flat maintainence fee.
>you can specialize your province in farming or industry with two building support chains that give you a global growth rate or global construction cost bonus.
>You can build Blazing Sun chapterhouses as an alternative to the reiksguard.

Should be good enough for a release right? Any more buildings you would like to see for the empire?
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>>164280795
Do you plan on doing stuff like this for every faction, anon? It sounds interesting
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>>164280795
I'm definitely going to give it a shot, sounds like a good way to do an empire run.
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>>164280795
sounds rad m8
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>>164281141
just the empire right now.
I felt that the empire really didn't have any mechanics to make it stand out on the campaign.
Vampires had their ressurection mechanics
Dorfs had their grudges
Boyz have their waaghs
Wood elves have their elf lebensraum.

I just wanted to make the empire feel more like an empire and less like a 1 dimensional cardboard cutout to recruit more units to push into the meatgrinder.

Maybe I will extend it to the vampires.
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>>164281317
Oh, and to add, I asked around /tg/ and wizard towers that provide a garrison of 1 wizard would be a nice flavor building to add.
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>>164281317
Yea, i'd really like to use it. It's just so limited in scope being focused on the Empire that i'd rather use SFO. I can see it being appealing to people who like vanilla and just want more Empire, though
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>>164281423
>wizard garrison
sounds fucking sweet
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>>164281513
you can use it with SFO right now.
Just tested it.
The good thing about post napoopan games is that you can pick and choose which mods you want based on your playthrough.
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Should I get a Orc Shaman or some trolls?
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I haven't played Warhammer since release and just loaded up a Skarsnik campaign and got super fucked. Some parts of TW you never really forget, but proper unit usage for different factions is not one of those for me.
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>>164281764
shaman. the building chain gives other campaign benefits too
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>>164277435
Knights Hospitaller are the go-to evil ones here in Poland though. Might be because they were our main problem for a few centuries.
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>>164281603
Sounds fun, guess i'll be using it with SFO in continued hopes that you add more factions! Do the AI take advantage of these things?

I hope the anon doing the campaign lighting mod is still alive ; ;
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>>164281896
>I hope the anon doing the campaign lighting mod is still alive
he was stabbed to death by the gobbos memefag a couple hours ago.

F
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>>164220289
>CEASE!
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welf tips?
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Happy New Year /twg/. Here's to a 2017 full of new dank memes.
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>>164282663
>posting Filthy Reddit
fuck off
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>>164242549
Lets hope that the naval combat mechanics are better like Empire 2 and FoTS.
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>>164248774
>>164249023
^ This ^
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>pass through allied land
>the replenishment tripples
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>>164282902
>he doesn't understand logistics of transporting supplies and man power through allied lands vs opposing lands
How's that campaign going Kaiser?
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>NYE
>everyone I know is going out to parties and having fun
>I am at home playing video games
>None of my friends invited me to anything

lads...
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>>164282592
>Be overpowered as fuck
>Win everything
ez

set an ambush for carcassonne at the entry of Athel Loren and don't upgrade your Oak of Ages too fast
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>>164283117
KILL THEM, RAISE THEM!
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My load times in Warhammer are kind of long, what's a cheap SSD that would do the job?
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>>164282592
Don't ignore your infantry. It may seem like you should just be spamming archers but your infantry is what will win you battles. Don't bring starfire shafts against dwarfs, no matter how tempting the cheap ap may be, as they have have magic resistance against the magical starfire shafts
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>>164283454
But WElfs archers are infantry, anon
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lets see how well the ai can handle the hunnic menace - ideally I wouldn't have to step in until Attila is dead
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>>164283674
having met Irish Wolfhounds in real life, the concept of being attacked by a bunch of angry wolfhounds is fucking terrifying. Thankfully CA is too lazy to actually model different types of dog breeds despite specifically mentioning it in the unit name
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>>164283864
>a bunch of dogs manage to kill and rout a unit of cataphracts

what the fuck
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GONNA
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>>164284414
STAAAAAB
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>when a general has too much influence and gravitas
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>>164284770
>he probably thinks he can take on all those pants-wearing barbarians all by himself
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Is there anyone in twg who actually plays with Radious? Can you tell me about it (aside from the ebic meems)?
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What cavalry in Shogun 2 is worth using?
Light Cavalry seem kind of mediocre
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>>164285341
Makes the game a bit easier. Adds so many new units that means every faction has just about every type of unit. Money is easier to come by and public order and squalor tend to be nerfed.

I think those are the things that tweak the nips of most /twg/ autists.
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>>164285438

You only use light cav to either attack archers or chase down fleeing enemy units
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>>164285438
yari cav
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FUCK YOU SHITSNIK
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How do I play Skarsnik?
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>Romans in charge of defense
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>>164218653

roll
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>lock 2 units behind a building that can only be built in your capital province after researching the final civic tech

Welp looks like I won't be using those guys ever
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>>164285909
forgot pic
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>>164283397
desu shit loads in like 10 seconds for me on a HD

maybe it's processor related or something?
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>>164283397
>>164286221
my old force 3 takes 25-30 seconds to load a save or a battle. i thought it was pretty damn long for an ssd.
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I've never seen a 100% yellow autoresolve bar before
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What is the best Rome 2 mod?
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>I'll distract them with my horse, while you shoot them to death
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>>164218653
Syracuse is Hannibal DLC
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>>164287035
Radious
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Post dead people
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>>164287339
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>>164287035
dei
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>>164287719
>>164287218
fug
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>>164287035

Attila
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>>164285976
>>164286851
>tired of playing TWW, want to play the TRVE ROMAN game
>remember the mess that's R2's political system
>remember Attila's squalor
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>>164285806
alan in charge of screenshots
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How to make a legendary campaign of Warhammer not so dead after Chaos is obliterated?
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>>164287947
>the mess that's R2's political system

But it's pretty clear how it works? You don't even have to care about it unless you want to blob everywhere, on lower imperium levels it's just a way for you to adopt family members, in higher imperium levels just use generals from every family so that your faction is on top but not too much
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>>164288085
Declare war on every faction and never make peace
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>>164287951
for whatever reason CA can't put in a continue button so that you can see all the unit kills after a battle. The way it is now steam can't screenshot because its a loading screen so you have a tiny frame to capture a screenshot before it fades to black.

I would just make it brighter but that requires me to use gimp since I don't think paint can do it, and I'm too lazy to go through that process

also
>darren's hairline
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>we know that wealth can be a burden
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>>164288402
You can use shadowplay to take screenshots during the loading screens
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>>164288135
It's a major hassle that serves no purposed other than to waste my time managing that shit.
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Barbartalians btfo
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What am i missing here

Every AI over multiple campaigns i see with dragoons can fire from horseback, all my other available gun cavalry can fire from horseback, but my dragoons fucking cant, i have every single GB tech in the tree. I dont even want them this late in the game its just, why
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>>164288624
Go varangians
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>>164284243
WOOF WOOF
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>>164288592
Some video games in general?
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>>164251141
Think of it as a crusade/Jihad from Med 1
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>>164288743
Light dragoons fire from horseback. And carbiners
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>>164257309

The duel type animations made combat calculations really fucking stupid though.
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>>164289091
I have actually used dogs in the past to capture gates - if the ai doesn't send enough troops into the capture point the dogs will cap it and destroy the enemy towers as well
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>Karak Hirn randomly declares war on me turns ago
>now Karak Ziflin decides to random war the Bretonnians

Why are these manlets so aggro this game?
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>>164289425
It's a grudge thing. You probably wouldn't understand.
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>Bretonnians
more like Cucktonnians
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surprised there isn't a vermintide general, LiS still has one after all this time.

LIZARDMEN WHEN
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>>164290089
it died pretty fast especially after no one could decide if to keep a general up on /tg/ or /vg/.
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Is there anything better than using the AI's bullshit against it?
>Turn fucking five on my hard Empire campaign
>Skullsmasherz bypass the secessionists to run behind my lines like the AI loves to do
>Manage to intercept them just barely
>Map is some hill monstrosity
>Great, the AI has doomdivers AND a fucking hill I'm going to take so many damn los-
>Because the AI chose the hill they don't have line of sight
>Move my Reiksguard close enough to see their doomdivers, but they couldn't see me
>Reveal my Reiksguard
>AI starts jumbling its formation around because it didn't seem to grasp how to deal with one single unit of cavalry
>They all blob up
>Rush over the hill and reveal my units
>Proceed to assfuck their blob
>Handgunners cause a mass route
>Their doomdivers weren't even routed, the AI just chose to drop the equipment and withdraw off the map I assume to try and save them and be a nuisance to me later
>Run them down
>They get a whopping 0 kills
>Reiksguard are already elite as fuck and the game hasn't even really started yet
Treehitler better watch his back.
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Happy New Year, fellow understands of strategy.
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So I've been trying the Mousillon campaign mod, and I'm sorry if this is a dumb question but has Bretonnia always had diplomacy dialogue about them?

Whenever I play Vampire Counts I never bothered opening up the diplomacy screen with them, so I don't know if it was lines exclusive to Mousillon or if it is used for any undead faction.

Seems pretty specific since the derp eyed frog referred to The Red Duke as the "Dread knight of Mousillon."
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>>164226401
>wanting to be a dwarf cucked to chaos that gradually turn to stone
That's going in the book
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Ok lads, I released my mod. Ideas for the future will be appreciated. I already have plans to make the vampire cunts into a more humanist (lol) faction that makes use of empire state troops instead of zombos and skelemen.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=831679533
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Last game I played is Empire: Total War

Now I'm in the mood for some total war. Whats the best game, Rome 2 or Warhammer?
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>>164290441
What's this treehitler meme? what started it?
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Am I correct in assuming that the AI just screwed over half his garrison by putting it in the sea?
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>>164290782
Warhammer, by far
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>>164290949
are those cannons?
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>>164290729
Looking good. Will try it out tomorrow
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How do I stop cavalry from raping my thunderers /artillery?

I'm playing on hard and the AI keeps circling me the whole battle until their large units make me give them an opening

I've had some luck just eating the charge with a tight formation and cutting their escape with another unit but it only works if they're using few cavalry
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>>164290552
perhaps CA put in some dialogue for the future, seeing as how some people think we may get middenland/mousillon factions for the GC as part of the "old friend" section of the FLC schedule
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>>164291051
Mortars

They function like Napoleon howitzers, but they're pretty damn weak
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Why didnt they keep the naval battles from Empire? They were the best part.
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>>164291203
what mod?
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What would you guys think if the next historical title had a super dumbed down campaign map to appeal to normie shitters like total war, but they also made the campaign map super moddable so fine gents such as >>164290729 could add to the complexity and give us attila tier campaign maps, and maybe even releasing an "official mod" or something that gives trve understanders of strategy complexity but lets redditers have their fun too.
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>>164291203
what mod? FOTE?
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>>164291303
a super dumbed down campaign map like total war warhammer I meant
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>>164291321
1078
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>>164291303
m8, the mod would have been 10 times better if it allowed me to actually have building subchains.
As it stands you literally have 4 building trees not counting the ports and main settlement mods.
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>>164290334
shame, picked it back up recently. it's come pretty far from the base game of: play 6, never get anything worth it

least now you can weight the dice in your favour.

hope the schedule keeps and we get lizardmen / skaven with the next game.
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>>164290941
>Forces all other elves to fight for him
>Literally wants to dominate the world
>Will eventually turn on everyone
>No amount of blood or money can quench his thirst
>No matter if you kick his shit in, he will not make peace with you until you sack the Oak of Ages
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>>164291419
They really need a versus mode, pretty sure they could make a few skaven types playable like stormvermin, warlock engineers and moulder breeders same as l4d2
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>>164291467
O-oh. I just started my first campaign as the Empire. Guess i'll need to keep a close watch on him then. I thought the Wood Elves would just hang around their forest and occasionally troll Bretonnia with the lady of the lake.
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>20 people see my mod
>3 subscribe
>I am one of them

This is pretty autistic desu.


Here's the plan for the vampires.
>Settlements reduce vampiric corruption if you turn them into living towns instead of spooky undeath spreading towns.

>Allow you to recruit living humans for (((FREE))) but the cost is ruinously expensive because you are spending dark magic to maintain your buildings and eliminate attrition for your vampires.
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>>164291467
Isn't he the absolute best?
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>>164291628
maybe, but I think that'd just lead to
>globe em
>packrat
>stormvermin
>wipe.
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>>164291372
>bitch
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>>164291643
heh.
good luck friend.
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Best FOTS mod? Ideally one that makes the AI actually builds artillery. RSM has retarded health for artillery unless anyone can convince me on it.
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>>164291662
Wouldn't reducing the vampiric corruption in a province cause public order issues, though? Since there's a public order bonus that changes with how much corruption there is.
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>>164291643
What difficulty are you playing on?

No matter what, the elves always seem to confederate at around turn 15-20. They are already hyper aggressive, the higher difficulty you go the more aggressive they get.

I'm currently doing an Empire campaign too, mine is on hard and they confederated at turn 12 and are already killing Belegar and Skarsnik.
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>>164291931
offset it by a flat PO bonus.
Might even add a edict that says that the humans are left mostly to their own devices and are grateful to their masters for it.

Just imagine. Manny (The TRUE EMPEROR) at the helm of an empire army with blood knights taking on the role of the reiksguard.
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>>164292036
I like the sound of it. It sounds like you're gonna make a pretty big mod so you might wanna make it look more professional. Original icons, better descriptions, etc.
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Pros and cons of Charlemagne if I already have all the other DLC
Also repost in new thread as willl be back in 2 hours
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>>164292085
>original icons
kek. Look at the road that I made for my empire mod. I will see what stuff I can steal online and smooth over with gimp.
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>this man
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>>164292178

You can do what they do with civ 5 icons - take some real building and draw over it.
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>>164292237
>draw.
oh poor anon.
I will look into it once I get the mechanics sorted out.
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>>164292342
All the icons look like they're done in Illustrator anyway. You don't even need to draw
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>>164291643
maybe you'll get lucky. No idea what happened this game but Talsyn has been raised, and while the WE have Parravon, their strength rating is lower than all the Bretonnian minors.

Usually though, they are strength 1 and stomp everything.
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I might have to retract my comments about the mortars

Between them, they had over 2000 kills and have a pretty good suppressive effect
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The 1st ever Roman Separatist conference will begin shortly
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>>164292683
WHAT MOD?
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>>164292683
>over 2000 kills
>"pretty good"
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>>164292750
Shooting explosives at 8000 dudes close together is bound to get some kills

>>164292697
1 0 8 7
0
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7
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=793069131
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>>164292023
>>164292462
Playing on hard. haven't actually encountered the Wood Elves yet. Parravon got taken out by Bastonne and now everyone is ganging up on Skarsnik. Nothing else happening in the South at least by my knowledge.
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>>164292936
>raping Todbringer
huh, never done that before.
Hopefully Bastonne gets stronger enough to resist the Wood Elf rape train then
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>>164292692
Why does the AI recruit multiple armies like that again? This isn't Shogun 2 where you can just merge your dudes together.
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>>164289425
Kara Hirn are THE absolute fucking cuntiest cunts in the game. These autistic rockloving turbo sluts will join just about anybody in their wars against you for absolutely no reason.

It's best to remove them from the map at your earliest convenience.
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I WANT TO PLAY BORDELEALUX NOW CA
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>beat 2 dorf armies with vlad
>after dominating captives i have only 9 dudes dead total
>i'll just clean this up with mannfred there give him some experience
>autoresolve
>the dorks wipe out 3 of his max level grave guard
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>>164292924
Is that mod good, and is it stable?
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>>164292936
>actually grabbing the northern provinces yourself instead of expanding to the south and east
>not taking jewburg

So you hate money and love being facefucked by chaos then anon.
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>>164293898
>3 stack orc siege against a meagre empire garrison
>quick auto resolve should do it
>lose full health cav units

ayo senpai, just fuck me up
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What's the verdict on Rome 2 vs. Attilla, both with all DLC included?
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>>164292924
Is this just the fucking Age of Vikings map with units from that medieval mod in the works?
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>>164218284
Wardancers are extremely well proportioned. Whomever designed them make a good work.

It really makes you think that you are controlling an army of cute girls.
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>>164294043
shitfest vs festshit
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Does that medieval shit for attila have campaign yet
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>>164294086
they look nothing like their portrait though
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>>164294043

cultured cultures vs barbaric barbarians
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>>164294076
Age of Charlemagne but yes
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>>164294108
both have apparently aged well so I dunno what to pick.

Which one has the least babby campaign? I hated how watered down Warhammer campaign was.
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>>164293932
I'm working on it.

Capturing Marienburg after i dealt with the secessionists WAS the initial plan but i got sidetracked when a Beastmen tribe wandered in and started raiding my lands. Todbringer also thought it would be fun to take that opportunity to declare war on me and siege Altdorf. Then when i beat them back and was marching on Middenheim, Marienburg declared war and sacked Eilhart. Basically i've been just been running around Reikland dealing with these problems for the past 10-15 turns.
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>>164294490
>Which one has the least babby campaign?
Attila
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>>164294483
The map they're using for their screenshots on the Steam page are taken from Age of Vikings, but the descriptions and traits. are still Age of Charlemagne.
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>>164294490
Well if you want convoluted campaign maps then Attila for sure.
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>>164294086
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>>164290334
Doesn't help that all the /tg/ newfags shitpost constantly anytime there's something remotely vidya related
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>>164294549
>>164294574
ok, just bought all the DLC for it.
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I don't know what the Auto-resolve was thinking but I'll take it
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>>164295190
why the fuck did you auto-resolve that?

Would've been a fun as fuck fight and you could've pretty much wiped out his army.
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>>164276347
get on my level kiddo
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>>164295342
naval battle. no option to
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1-5: Empire
6-0: Vamps
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>>164295368
ohhh shit, I thought it was a siege, didn't see the boats.
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>>164295367
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OUR HORSES LOVE BLOOD
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>>164219008
Do any of the culture pack DLC's effect Age of Charlemange?
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>>164295457
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>>164295494
those deathmetal band names though.
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>>164295497
no
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>>164295542
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>>164294786
Nice, try the Empires of Sand (especially Tanukhids and Himyar), Visigoths or Ostrogoths and one of the Roman Empires, imho they're the best campaigns in the game.
Also Age of Charlemagne is very good but the unit diversity is rather small
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>>164295851
I think you mean he should try AKSUM.
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>>164295851
>sandniggers
>best campaign

lol
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>tfw will never get a game like Witcher 3 where you play as a witch hunter in the warhammer setting
I thought that TW:WH would state me but the game doesn't feel as alive as it should be yet. Maybe in a year when we have an expansion and more factions.
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>>164295851
Are there any barbs that can looks civilized end game?

I want to go from mud huts and shirtless dudes, to marble and plate armour
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>>164296094
Vermintide has a witch hunter character, though you'll be hunting rats instead of witches and heretics.
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>>164296045
Aksum is the least exciting EoS-campaign though.
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Happy 2770 /twg/
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seriously autoresolve? you're giving this to the dwarfs?
good thing i like me some dwarfburgers
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>>164274438
Warhammer lacks all of:
>village battles (because terrain is a huge part of the warhammer look as well as gameplay) >more shit on maps in general instead of just a tiny hut right by the map edge) to provide obstacles for charges and funnel armies into corridors in true Warhammer fashion.
>Chaos Warrior fortresses in Norsca, wtf is up with omitting those
>unit painter + unit command (BSB, etc.) DLC
>better city textures of GC map

But that's basically all that's keeping the game from being GOAT, if we overlook the map being a bit more squarish than we remember. TT units don't play all that differently cause they're usually divided into the same few functionalities (big tarpit unit, single model unit charge redirectors, elites) and because a lot of their effectiveness depends on the gear their command group is kitted out with.

That said, WH's units still feel a lot more legitimate than the bulk of Attila's stupid, made up, ahistorical units that ruin the entire game. Seriously, even attempting a dark ages strategy game with specialist units, what a dumb idea.
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>>164296164
Aksum is the best EoS campaign. Tanukhids are second best.
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>>164296148
I've played Vermintide but that game is just wasted potential. You've seen all there is to see in two hours.

What I want is an open-world game with focus on exploration and the kind of mystery and weird shit you'd find in warhammer fantasy.
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>>164296132
I guess Ostrogoths would be best for that since they can take over and use roman recruitment buildings so you can build your own ostrogothic-roman legions
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>>164296092
well what's best then?
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>>164296338
Nah. Tanukhids > Himyar > Aksum
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how 2 sdd?
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>>164296651
No, mate. Aksum (spice, shock infantry, and more) > Tanukhids (hordes, amazing quest chain, and more) > Himyar (water, even more camels, and other stuff, too).
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>>164296338

>faction with safe expansions and no real enemies
>best

Tanukhids > all.

Tanukhids > Himyar = Garama > The dudes near Sassanids > Axum
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>>164296331
I feel that people want some kind of Witcher or Elder scrolls game set in the warhammer universe more than anything a total war game could reasonably provide
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>>164296258
vamps are weak on auto
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>>164296258
Autoresolve loves organ guns.
They always get like 200-300 kills
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>>164297096
yeah i noticed.. mopped up the remaining 2 organ guns + some other unit with autoresolve and lost 2 greatswords
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>incite unrest
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>>164296785
Maybe, but WHFB is deceptive in that the fluff writers tend to write up a more expansive world than what is actually realised by the modellers. A good examples is the beasts of muh evershifting chaos wastes and remote mountains, which add up to five actual models.
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Why arent dwarves using pole arms?
It would come in handy because they have no reach and all
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>>164297625
>dwarves
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>>164296348
why are the gobbos helping chaos
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>>164297625

Pole arms wouldn't work well underground I think is the reasoning.
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>>164297625
>battle for middle-earth

elves OP af.
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Should I buy Age of Charlemagne, what mechanics does it add and take away. And how do you not get bored with having like 9 units to pick from
>>164230612
Because you can't have Germany without Russia
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>>164297625
Only Chaos Dwarfs use halberds in WH out of dwarfkind because they're best bois. They're coming in 2018, anon, believe and be brave.
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What are the winds of magic rankings? What mages should I be aiming to use for each faction? I remember death was the be all end all magic last time I played.
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>tfw get declared on by some random local power who your military ally is good friends with
>tfw your ally chooses you over them

the best feel
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>>164297961
>Be Empire.
>Make defensive alliances with Talabecland and Stirland.
>20 turns later, Stirland declares war on Talabecland.

The worst feel.
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can you rename towns in rome 2
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>>164297930
light wizard is probably best because you can net people in front of your ranged units and melt them
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>>164297625
polearms look like a logistic nghtmare in narrow underground tunnels (the underway maps are a poor representation of underground warfare)

besides, they are too short and fight in too close formations to properly use polearms
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>>164297625
Dwarves have never used polearms in any original fantasy settings or myths, I don't think we ever saw it until that trident showed up in Moria and GW pumped out vault keepers and phalanx type dwarves. In the hobbit they are described as specifically using Mattocks and short swords which makes sense underground. Roman tactics would be ideal since flanking is impossible underground, but I think most portrayals imagine Viking shield walls since dwarves usually are given axes which obviously can't stab like a gladius.
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>>164274438
>Maybe I'm just a huge casual but... to me a unit who shoots arrows feels the same as any other. Doesn't matter if he's an orc, human, dwarf... Only units that functionally have to be used differently stand out.
sounds like you haven't played the game desu.

Quarellers and completely different to Orc archers, who are completely different to Empire xbows.

>And that's the problem. It's not warhammer. The units almost all function the same as something else.
have you actually played tabletop? That exactly describes warhammer you retard. Pretty much all infantry are variations of S3/4 & T3/4 and either serve as a tarpit, a meatgrinder, or a killy unit, or any combination of those three.

The game is about as close to a Warhammer transplant into Total War as your gonna get and you still complain because you don't even understand Warhammer.

The only glaring difference is that magic isn't OP as shit anymore - but that was as much bad balancing on GW's part as it was the lore.

The village part is the only bit I agree on, and the fact that when you upgrade a settlement to have walls it magically transforms into an a huge city (or a fucking underground city if you're orks or dwarves.

As someone who mainly played dwarves though I can't see myself ever losing a settlement if they added villages that were actually defensible.
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>>164297930
Light (the fucking net) / Vampires / Beasts / Life / Big WAAAAGH / Shadow / Little WAAAAGH / Fire / Death / Wild / (powergap) / Metal
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>>164297340
>Blobbing past the Alps
>Hasn't even touched Carthage
You're a bad Roman
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>>164298170
I got some fucking shitty sword on Karl Franz that does this way better.

Literally just put him on a Pegasus, fly over the army until it's just right and then if I use it I can immobilise most of their units for like 20 seconds.
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>all those spears

sometimes the ai is so retarded it actually benefits them
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>>164297748
elves OP in all games desu
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So will next Warhammer game come out this year?
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>>164299225
Probably
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>>164299225
Yeah, pretty sure
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is there anypoint in bringing organ guns and hellblasters?
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When will Mannlett learn?
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>>164299178
>164299178
I wonder what his last unit is.

>>164299197
Game was fun, from what I remember. surprised there haven't been more RTS LOTR.
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>>164299014
how would that work in reality? do magic white strands shoot out of the tip of the sword and from a net around the enemies like some spiderman webslinger toy.
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AE IS ALMOST OUT, I can practically taste it
it tastes sour actually
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>>164299912
>AE released
>it's so buggy it crashes all the time making the game unplayable
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>>164300014
Just like ROME2 on release day
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>>164299362
Yes, it's fun.
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Total War: Warhammer 40k when? Does shitty Relic own the vidya rights?
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>>164300014
>mod creators overreact to criticism; whine about how hard they worked until ass-kissing rises again to acceptable levels
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>>164300251
>Total War: Warhammer 40k when?
luckily never, 40k is for plebs
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>>164298996
I'm going for Carthage now. I kept getting declared on by random dickheads so I decided to just clear everyone who hated me out.

Not pictured is the army lead by the absolute madman general just outside Neapolis. Probably gonna steam roll them. Funny, I only started this playthrough back up because I wanted to make a hard save so I could try a new playthrough with DEI.
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>>164299863
nah it's a scary sword.

He flys up on his winged pony and flashes it to the enemy army and they just sit there shaking in their boots whilst my xbows shoot them.
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>>164300294
>luckily never, 40k is for plebs
I agree completely with this desu
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>>164300251
40K doesn't work for a Total War. Just play Dawn of War.
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>>164300251
It would be complete and utter dogshit and will never happen. How the fuck would a Total War game work in space without being complete shit?

Just play DoW3
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>>164298076
nope
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http://store.steampowered.com/sale/2016_top_sellers/
It's usually not too constructive talking about game sales, but I find it interesting that atilla and rome 2 are both still in the top 100 steam top sellers
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>>164300251
How about fuck that and instead we get either supreme commander 40k or wargame 40k. Oh right, GW is retarded and hates money. Those things could print so much money for cosmetic dlc and shit.
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>>164300505
>Just play DoW3
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>>164300550
>Oh right, GW is retarded and hates money.
Sadly true.
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>>164300550
The supreme commander franchise is kill ever since SupCom2 and Chris Taylor has disappeared off the face of the earth
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>>164242549
>https://imgur.com/a/fjAjA#pCuVa92
WHAT ARE THESE?

If these are actual leaks I'm gonna legit do a dwarf pirate campaign and landlock those filthy elves.
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>Its a cav-heavy army vs 3 stacks of spears battle
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>>164300869
He should be pleased with 6500 very dead garamantians then
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>play eb2
>very clearly order cavalry to charge exposed archers
>they charge into a pike wall instead

how did we deal with the med2 engine back then lads
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>>164301068
What's that spy with a different colored Egyptian mon ?
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>>164300550
>wargame 40k

yes please
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>>164301285

with tides of shitposting and crying.
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>>164301285
Because it was, and still is, very pretty and the units upgrading visually as you improved your armor tech was enough for me put up with the rest of the bullshit.
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>>164301285
By playing France and crushing the enemy with massive cavalry charges to the face.
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>>164301285
>he is mad that his knights don't follow orders
>he is mad that his knights blindly charge the enemy line for glory
>he doesn't like historical realism

https://books.google.com/books?id=qhZwCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT124&lpg=PT124&dq=cavalry+disobedience&source=bl&ots=DLCDkfj2cM&sig=EqCDW3b_DQvq2VML5d2InXPGoHo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5r7y1tqHRAhVHjVQKHTqcB6YQ6AEIJTAD#v=onepage&q=cavalry%20disobedience&f=false
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>>164301519
>knights

equites*
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>>164300505
I hate DoW. TW:40k could work, just base it off the smaller army sizes variant.
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>>164301285
Git gud you scrub lord.
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guys

my cursor won't appear in Medieval 2. I restored my cursor to default settings, what else could be wrong with it that it wont show up in-game?
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>>164301382
african separatists
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>>164218137
rollink
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>>164301607
Epic 40,000 expansion had large armies and units. It would be hilarious to see CA making more deep and lore friendly game that whatever shit Relic is making.
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>yes my dawi friend the way is clear! go and burn down the dwellings of the foul creatures! no ambushes here!
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>>164302531
>Dwards
>not Dwarves
do these folks not know how English works?
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>>164301607
How the fuck would the campaign work? We already have enough problems with benny-hilling in TWW without it being set in fucking space.

Half of it would just turn into battlefleet gothic.
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Fighting as vampire counts early on can be easily defined as "don't give a fuck about how many zombies and skeletons you lose, just kill their lords first and let yours win the battle by himself".
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>>164302731
Flat galactic map.
Provinces are star systems.
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>>164223390

I agree desu, they should have added Konrad.
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>>164302674
Are you 12?
Dwarves, Dwarfs, Dwarven, Dwarfen, Elven, Elfen, Elvish.
All of the above have been used in fantasy storytelling.
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>>164302674
Warhammer has been specifically using that spelling basically as long as it has existed.
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>>164300572
>dude DoW3 is like starcraft because /v/ told me so
epik.
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>Play Medieval 2
>Spain
>Destroyed Moors, Portugal, Sicily
>Get attacked by France
>Send one stack with decent general
>"Your general has fallen to an enemy assassin"
>Ok lets try and invade Greece
>Take city, End Turn, 6 Byzantine assassins show up around the city
>"Your general has fallen to an enemy assassin."
>Can't step foot over border without all generals and agents being assassinated.
>Entire royal family is being hunted down by assassins even in the holy land

Sometimes I forget where the agent spam in Rome II originated from.
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>>164301519
>>he doesn't like historical realism
so it's realism that knights would rather charge head long into pikes than charge archers?
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