/mcg/ - Minecraft General: Runic Edition

First for magic serb is fun

I didn't ask for bread

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third for java is a shit language

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What did I forget?

>>163925246
>>163925246
Botania
Pams harvestcraft
Gregtech
Natura

>>163925562
>botania
fag mod
>harvestcraft
a billion plants that do nothing mod
>gregtech
grind toward nothing mod
>natura
decent

Any anons willing to help make that Magic vs Tech serb a reality?

https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Tsa4RkMMXZ

>>163925980
Magic would win with portable holes and wards no need to

>>163926043
>Techfags use modular forcefields
>Oh look portable holes no longer work it's just like wards for techfags

>>163925562
>Botania
retard
>Pams harvestcraft
bloat
>Gregtech
pointless grind
>Natura
bloat

0/10 never reply to mod suggestion posts again

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>>163925246
If you like building, Binnie's Mods.

http://minecraftmemo.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-34.html

>>163926192
Nah im gonna

>>163926091
Hungry nodes to eat it lol also your idea is shit and will never happen

http://www.strawpoll.me/11973905

>>163926675
bop+streams+rtg

>>163925079
dank. I like it

Which should be used to make RTG and BoP compatible, biometweaker or climate control?

>>163927094
i remember testing both out at one point and decided to keep CC because it already comes with BoP config defauls whereas biometweaker doesn't

take this with a grain of salt though, things might have changed

>>163926675
>7 flavors of sameshit "realistic" garbage
Into the trash, all of them

>>163924785
It's not a storage thingy, it's like a fancy access terminal to whatever storage you use, as long as it's compatible (some sort of chests\drawers\whatever)
It's rather cool and unique but may look a bit convoluted

>>163927913
name 1.5 things wrong with realistic terrain gen

>>163927913
>calls everything presented shit
>doesn't post an alternative
every time

is anyone else here prejudiced against setting up a base in a snow biome?

snow biomes just seem gay, right?

>>163928796
yes, i avoid building in snow biomes at all costs
the snow covering up everything under the sky makes almost every build look like shit

>>163928796
Yeah, I don't know why but I hate them. Maybe it's just because... there is snow everywhere...

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>>163928796

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>it's a "best feature about a mod is a tool that is only used for a single thing" episode

>>163929172
>aesthetics at the cost of performance

And people wonder why the game is unplayable now.

>>163929172
what's that? looks cute.

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>>163929556
>he has to care about performance
fuck off (You) poorfag, go bitch at another community to stop doing fun shit because you won't upgrade from the decade-old kitchen microwave that can barely run the vanilla game

>>163929734
Runic Dust mod
the feature is supposedly meant to be used to make an outline for one of the rune effects

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hol up

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>>163929556
if a few small indentations on a couple of blocks (that you can choose to not use at all) is killing your performance then you have much better things to worry about than the state of the game

>>163930307
don't microblock things in 1.7.10 impact performance a lot

i remember etho had a problem with it in TFC.

>>163930727
I think this issue is that nothing else ever spawns in deserts so it'll always spawn harpies or cockatrices
Same issue with Maids

>>163930683
>my favorite e-celeb had an issue so i'm gonna champion a cause for him now
works on my machine :^)

>>163930874
>so i'm gonna champion a cause for him now
huh? all i did was ask if they impact performance a lot

>>163930945
>ask
questions usually come with question marks

the way your post is worded seems like you were using the word "microblock" as a verb
like "don't microblock things"

>>163931281
can't you discern a question from a statement regardless of the punctuation

if not that is ur problem buddy

>>163925562
>botania
>harvestcraft
AHAHAHA

Can anyone quickly tell me some mods Railcraft might clash with? I am trying to get my modpack to work but opening the Rolling Machine crashes the game. When I tried doing it without most of my mods, it worked.

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>>163925635
>natura
>decent
>ugly ass textures that look like they were made by someone who has never seen wood, and new sticks for each wood type

>>163931673
are you using optifine?

>>163930683
that was on the 1.6.4 terrafirmacraft. I dunno if they improved the rendering since then if it was just him overdoing the chiseling but my 4 gigs of ram toaster with an 8 year old gpu runs it just fine.

>>163932606
no

>>163931673
Nevermind, it seems to have a problem with immersive engineering so I'll just keep that out.

>>163929814
Listen, nigger, when a computer can run all of the modern games at 60fps and can't run a modpack smoothly then it's the game and mods that's trash, not the computer.

>>163930307
Microblocks are literally cancer, they ruined 1.6.4 and were abolished in 1.7, but then brought back in 1.7, abolished again, then brought back through Forge in 1.9+. It's stupid.

>>163929814
Fuck off, Lex. You can't just start calling people poorfags when they point out how shitty and unoptimized your life's work is.

>>163933983
they're not microblocks you overreactive spaz

>>163934573
It's probably not Lex, he's an anti-social fuck who stays in his bubble of fanboys.

It's probably one of his cucks, like fry, or mezz.

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>>163934573
>>163935987
>talking about some obscure mod made by a literal who
>this is sucking Lex's cock

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>>163935987
>>163936116
Did you guys know that the inability to pick up on sarcasm or irony is a symptom of Autism spectrum behavior?

>>163937504
>implying you can pick up the cues via written text
>m-merely pretending to be retarded!
nice try

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>going through old screenshots
>find ones from the brief period of time I had the LotR mod installed
>think about reinstalling
>remember the 3+ minute boot time
Yeesh. I wish someone would go into the LotR mod and cut out everything except for the armor and cosmetic blocks.

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>tfw can't blow smoke ships with Thaumic Bases pipeweed

>>163933983
>they ruined 1.6.4
But microblocks were around since 1.2.5, if not earlier, by virtue of RedPower 2; and since 1.4.7 by virtue of Immibis' Microblocks. Also, Forge never included microblocks.

>>163937994
how

>>163937754
>he thinks sarcasm is only detectable in verbal speech
That's super good input. You REALLY stuck it to that guy who thought the literal Lex was posting here on this anonymous website.

>>163929985
jesus

>>163937994
DUDE TOBACCO LMAO

>>163937504
There are so many faggots from the modding community who have actually posted here over the years, anonymously or otherwise, it's not far-fetched to think that someone might accuse another person of being Lex and actually believe it.

>>163939043
Like who?

>>163939276
Why do you want to know?

This is a public website that anyone can view or post on with little to no effort. Literally anyone could be watching us post right now. Not that there's any reason they'd particularly want to (aside from the fact that we're not as sycophantic as Reddit users), but it's possible.

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>find crag biome
>there's a Streams stream at ground level
>said stream is flowing between the tall plateaus
>occasionally making tunnels to actually go under the plateaus
>the tunnels actually don't look very retarded
WE'RE HITTING MUH DICK LEVELS THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE POSSIBLE

>>163939943
I want you to prove your accusation. It's easy to spout meaningless words to anger people, it's much harder to actually stand by them.

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>>163940341
view from where the stream and another stream from the neighbouring Marsh meet the ocean

>>163940361
Clarify what accusation you'd like me to prove.

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>>163940341
>>163940538
Anon, you have to build a big fort there.
You have to.
You have to make us proud, anon.

>>163938552
Hey man, I like the tobacco in Thaumic Bases. It adds another layer of comfy on top of everything.

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>>163940341
>>163940538
time to get your rickety bridges on, anon

>>163940361
That wasn't me who replied to you.

As for people who posted here, you had several, from mDiyo to AutomaticMaden to I think even Immibis at one point.

>>163938050
RedPower microblocks were proprietary. Anything after that was an open API and inherently slow.

>>163928116
Old terrain generation, comfy as fuck.

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I'm confused, the MaxEntityCramming rule is supposed to be active in 1.11.2, right?

I set myself up a sweet triple cave spider spawner farm. Mobs don't seem to be suffocating. Pretty sure they were doing so when I had them crammed in a different way (floating up on a 1x1 water source).

(reposting cause no replies in last thread)

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>>163910817
>>How dare a buggy mod add mobs that can one shot you through iron armor with incredibly high spawn rates and no way to disable them

Mariculture is open-source.

https://github.com/joshiejack/Mariculture

The best bugfix is the one you make yourself.

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Friendly reminder that somebody has made a really great autismic engineering mod and nobody has heard of it yet.

https://mods.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/242197-networks-manager

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>>163944137
>make the fix yourself
Why?

>>163940341
>>163940538
Seed / modlist please

>>163942697
Including Chisels & Bits? That mod is probably one of the most optimized mods, rendering-wise, in Minecraft's history.

>>163942697
>RedPower microblocks were proprietary. Anything after that was an open API and inherently slow.

Open APIs aren't inherently slow, you don't understand what the fuck you're talking about.

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>(You)s are now gone but mcg shitposting is still in full effect

>>163944004
it's supposed to be but assume Mojang is utterly useless and managed to fuck it up.

>>163946334
4chanX

>>163946334
I wasn't even aware that had happened, 4chanX kept the feature

>>163944004
try /r/minecraft
>>163944601
Cant you just delete the files of that zombie? Or change his stats to be as normal and useless zombies?

Is there a niche open for a new serber, or are we full up on das serbs right now?

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>>163946334
(((you)))

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>>163947715
this dotted underline is worthless to me
do you hear me
WORTHLESS

>>163947873
>he doesn't have 4chanx

>that magic vs tech serb idea from a few threads back

Jeez that sounds cool, too bad PVP in Minecraft is shit.

Maybe with a bit of a roleplaying angle it could be good?

>>163947675
Well, there isn't really any tech server up right now. We've got the GregClay, yeah, but that's a really.... unorthodox kind of technology.

>>163947675
>>163948470
https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Tsa4RkMMXZ

>>163946334
reply baiting wasn't even an issue when (you) was first added to the plugins
the people changed, not the site features

>>163946529
>>163947573
Okay, thanks!

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Anyway to get the inventory tweaks buttons to not collide with the jei panel?

>Create world to check out mountain cleaving spell
>Spawn on a small island in middle of ocean

How do you scan things with a data pad in Matter Overdrive? I'm trying to use the obvious solution(right click and hold), but the quest I'm trying to finish doesn't acknowledge my efforts.

(Context: Modpack - "Revenge of the C-Team". Quest: Scanning carrots for a tritanium spine.)

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Update on my desert house experiments. I plotted them out on a matrix to explore different scaling variations.
Vertical: height (single, double and triple stories)
Horizontal: footprint (1x1, 2x2 and 3x3)

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>>163951495
Quick and barebones mockup...

>>163951665
villager housing overhaul mod when

>>163951763
When someone decides to code it. (Will it be YOU?)

>>163951763
What specifically did you have in mind? I'm planning on testing stuff with villagers Soon(TM).

>>163951665
Try flat roofs and make houses with frontdoors (the thing outside the house with roof like in pic related:
http://virajit.artstation.com/projects/lEk8o) and put arches on them, a lot.
Of course this is a more city like style that works both modern and medieval (this triggers the "I studied architecture fag") but if you plan to do shacks in a shithole, they look great.

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Is there a mod that implements thatching for early game ceilings? Preferably cut from tall grass like TFC's thatch blocks.
Vanilla's hay piles are "okay" but they're not great; you can't get a reasonable amount of them to make your first house since you'll need a very large number of them, plus you'd need to sacrifice materials that would be used to make food. Also their textures aren't optimal but that's nothing a couple of minutes in an image manipulation program wouldn't fix.

>minecraft now looks like an old ps1 game ported into unreal engine.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/5kmlvf/nordic_village_using_our_wip_texturepack/

lads I used to play the fuck out of this game years ago with those modpacks that added machines n shit

What are the current best modpacks to submerge myself into a similar autism? I have enough RAM so I can handle bloat

>>163952809
more like skyrim on ultra low settings

>>163952728
I think there are several nip mods that do that, Minefantasy (maybe), Maple tree (unlikely) and Bamboo Mod but you can try and search to nip mod land if you can get another option.

>>163944004
>57 fps on a 6700K/GTX970
jesus christ, mojang..

>>163953462
It's capped cause vsync or something

>>163952728
Honestly if you're doing it just for a single block and you can scrounge up the textures for it yourself you're better off making it yourself, or in Quadrum if you don't know or can't be fucked to program it in Java.

>>163953549
Uncap your FPS, for some reason capping your FPS is a significant performance drop. Because Mojang.

>>163952816
>Dont mind bloat
1.7.10 has some cool as 1k+ mods but 1.10.2 is being worked nowadays and has microblocks but requires gorillion ram so try something.
As for modpacks people usually make their own so cant tell you about that.

>>163927983
Infinite oceans

>>163953947
Well, I haven't even read a word related to this game since two years so I'm pretty much like a newbie and its kind early to make my own one

All I really want are those autistic machines with the electricity, the bee stuff and the plants. More is better. I checked for modpacks and found that "FTB Direwolf20" is the most downloaded one, should I go with it for my needs?

>>163951495
>>163951665
These are bretty cool. I like the variations in depth and height.

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>>163952367
>the thing outside the house with roof like in pic related
You mean awning, which shades the front door from the sun?
I tried to avoid the classic city architecture and opted for a nomadic/berber look, inspired by the Star Wars locations.

>"I studied architecture fag"
lel! That was a surreal experience to be honest. I got the red flag eventually, because instead of discourse, I always got a lecture in return! I bet the poor guy can't help it.

>>163945765
They are inherently slower than proprietary implementations because they have to take every contingency into account that a developer might need from it. They're also independently processing and rendering, separately from the mod processing and rendering.

Are you new to programming?

>>163954179
>FTB
Tapu keko
FTBs packs are not that well optimized and are shit trown together, so I reccomend some ftb third party pack instead.
>Autistic machines
Buildcraft, Railcraft, Mekanism, Industrialcraft2, Immersive Engineering, Magneticraft and Thermal Expansion (its so simple it generates burn outs so try better alternatives).
>bees
Forestry
>plants
Agricraft

All still there.

>>163924856
how do i become pro on minecraft pvp
this shit starts to get annoying, i just cant clickspam for some reason. I get combo'd too easily

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BLAME city generator when

>>163954789
You grow up and stop being underaged, then start playing minecraft as an engineering game.

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>>163954179
>1) Play bullshit kitchen sink packs like Direwolf for a bit
>2) Remove bullshit mods you don't use or hate looking at
>3) Add cool mods left out of bullshit kitchen sink pack that you hear about on the internet
>4) Use Mine/Modtweaker to make adjustments to increase/decrease difficulty as you see fit
>5) Sit back and enjoy your cozy custom modpack
I think that's a fair progression. Every step can be fun if you let it be.

>>163954959
>autism legos
did you just tell me to grow up by placing down lego blocks in a video game?

>>163954856
Tell me more about BLAME.

>>163954679
>>163954986
thanks lads

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>>163955042
Yes.
Is that a problem?

>>163955126
ye

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>>163955126

>>163954537
Yeah the awning, both with stone and arches and with cloth. I should have used that more frequently on my desert city.

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>>163955126
So comfy, so exciting, so expensive :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dargOslomMA

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>>163955126
noice

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>>163955474
I used it in this building, together with the arches

>>163955126
How the hell is that thing supposed to detect robots pretending to be humans?

>>163955871
That's a turing machine, a type of mechanical computer/cpu.
A turing test is what you're thinking of.

https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/5krnvy/do_you_like_having_5_mods_to_accomplish_the_same/

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>>163951665
>>163952367
Tried out some decoration and colour swaps...

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Anyone here want a download code for Xbox One and/or Windows 10, $5 each?

>>163957837
I still recommend flat roofs due to muh realishum and try making some small gaps in the highest part of rooms due to realishum, they are used to circulate air and dissipate heat.

>>163957930
Sold

>>163957930
>Xboned
>Wangblows 10: Botnet Edition
i wouldn't take one even if you were the one paying me

>>163950094
yeah, by not using inventory tweaks.

but for real there might be an option for it in its '...' menu

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>>163953658
>Quadrum
I had to resort to some underhanded ripping off of Unity's hay texture but overall I think everything went better than expected.

I think Galacticraft or Mekanism or Matter Overdrive add a big antenna but I dont remember the name and cant find it. Anyone know what is it called?

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What would you rate this on a level of one to a e s t h e t i c

>>163961279
It looks like Squidward's house if he teched up a bit.

>>163961279
3

>>163961279
bepis

>>163961108
Now Im sure its Galacticraft, but cant find it anywhere I look.
>>163961279
I rate it s q u i d w a r d h o u s e

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>>163961553
>s q u i d w a r d h o u s e
oops

>>163961279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE
out of A E S T H E T I C
but i recommend putting a border around the glass window, the depth is lost otherwise

Shouldn't there be community-enforced rules for posting in this thread?

For example you are not allowed to reveal that you use AE2 and other MAWPC mods.

>>163962865
No, fuck off
>>>/trash/

>>163962865
>MAWPC
The only people who use this term are "powerusers" who dont actually like to have fun in any sort of matter of the word. They dwell on posting in the thread and dont actually play minecracft since 1.2.5

>>163963004
You should go back to red.dit. They enjoy MAWPC mods too.

>>163963035
wrong

>>163962865
>community-enforced rules
if you really cared about the quality of this thread you'd stop posting

>>163963098
>community enforced "rules"
>go back to plebbit
oh the irony
People retarded enough to use shit mods should be bullied into oblivion, you dumb nigger.
As they already are.

>>163963203
you're attempting to enforce a rule but it won't work

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I want to build a modpack for my house, but one of us will be playing on a shite laptop,

what mods should I avoid for performance, and what mods should I add for performance(fastcraft etc)

>>163963259
4chan has rules enforced by the community. nothing about that is specific to reddit, as you go on to say.

>>163963290
don't use AE2. use logistics pipes with buildcraft.

>>163963290
>what mods should I avoid for performance
There aren't any serious offenders, but anything using FMP is probably a no-go.
>what mods should I add for performance(fastcraft etc)
Optifine + fastcraft, optifine configured correctly to stop crashes, z-fighting, and other bugs.

>>163963290
>1.7.10 or lower
>fastcraft and or optifine, both are likely snake oil
>don't go crazy with the number of mods

Ok guys lmao why dont we have "community enforced" gold that we can give to players that are good guys. Just deposit on my paypal and Ill do the rest :>)

>>163963563
I wish we had community enforced assisted suicide

>>163963563
are you retarded

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>>163963409
>use logistics pipes with buildcraft
>use an expanded version of the exact same kind of storage but not with a mod that I deem MAWPC
next you're gonna say that you should use hoppers to automate machinery because item pipes are MAWPC

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>>163963853
>it's wrong to claim one mod is MAWPC while not the other because they accomplish the same thing despite the fact they accomplish it through different levels of effort and thinking

>>163937994
dude I think Satan is right behind you

When cpw removes coremods we should just destroy modded Minecraft by refusing to update, and convincing everyone we know that Forge has a virus or malware or something.

I swear to god though, if any of you update to a version which doesn't have coremod support, you are literally cancer and aren't welcome here.

>>163964467
lex's address is public info, sending mormons is always a solution

IIRC there was some TE-based ICBM-like mod, but I can't remember what its name was. Any help?

>>163964630
...I would ask why we haven't sent him pizza but then I realized the fat fuck would probably actually WANT that.

>>163965000
But if you figure out his favorite pizza place, and sent enough of them, you could probably get him banned from there.
:^)

>>163963409
>4chan has rules enforced by the community. nothing about that is specific to reddit, as you go on to say.
that's a good laugh
in reddit if you violate the community's invisible hivemind rules you get downvoted, your post gets buried at the bottom of the page and hidden, if it's bad enough you may even get banned from other subreddits automatically because your redditpoints are too low therefore you must be literally hitler: the poster
here you just get shatposted at and autistically screeched loudly at, neither of which come any close to the definition of "enforcing rules"

>>163965000
Just keep sending him pizza. Being the fat fuck that he is, he won't be able to refuse the pizza, so he'll eat all the pizza until he dies.

>>163965121
murder through cardiac arrest?
Wait, no, that's not even murder or manslaughter or anything, it's literally just sending pizzas to his house, hell, we might end up paying for them ourselves if we really want to avoid legal problems

>>163965119
people don't like getting screeched at, which is why you'll find a lot of people complaining about certain threads or boards where they don't feel welcome. reddit's rules are more enforceable but again, it is not exclusive to reddit.

you are stupid.

>>163965000
Just send him salads.

Sending someone a salad made in a pizza place is like leaving dog shit on their porch.

For the record, the paperwork for "Forge Development LLC" was filed in "Oregon".
If one wanted to know who filed it, it would be easy to google those exact two things, quotes included.

>>163965353
>people don't like getting screeched at
wow i didn't know you could read the minds of every single person on earth
too bad you only read the minds of people too retarded and/or thin-skinned to actually take shitposts on an anonymous khmer elephant stable seriously

>>163965925
>people like getting screeched at
>people don't constantly talk about avoiding particular communities even within 4chan
(you)

>>163965435
fat people will eat anything, bro. especially fat computer users, because they just do the motions of shoving food into their face while they type.

>>163966086
>i can't disagree so it must be bait
likewise

>>163965646
Sooo forge was filed by a guy named Blake Alec Hanson? What does he have to do with Forge?

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>>163924856
Does anyone know of a mod that lets you edit mob spawners in 1.7.10? I've looked into some already, but none of the ones I've found fit my needs (editing a mod's mob spawner to make the mob it spawns aggressive toward players and neutral toward mobs, and editing another mod's mob spawner so that it spawns that mob on more blocks than it currently does)

>>163966445
Do you think lexmanos is lex's actual name?
Isn't it odd that on lex's twitter profile, it lists his location as oregon?

Does anyone have any interesting looking microblocks builds? Seems powerful but I could use some inspiration

>>163966445
Lex admitted in his Q&A thing once that his middle name is Alec but that he thinks of himself as Alexander, as in Alexander the Great.

That's right, Lex's online name is literally him god-moding his own name because of how great he thinks he is.

>>163966506
Well before this I assumed he was enough of an egotistical cunt to use his real name, or have legally changed his name to that.
>>163966876
And there's more evidence of the ego.

>>163966469
Try an NBT editor, or something like that.
I don't think mods do that, think it's more of a plugin type dealio

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need a populated serb to play send help

>>163967045
Yeah, I've tried two of those so far but neither of them worked. One only allowed editing the name of the mob spawner (I could do this in survival mode with an anvil if I wanted to), and the mob it spawns (NEI covers this.) The other one allows you to edit many, many more things, but only vanilla mobs (I need to edit modded ones) and, despite even letting you edit weird details like their velocity and which direction they face when they spawn, the mod creator didn't think to include options for "Aggressive toward: [players/mobs/players and mobs], Neutral toward: [etc.]"

>>163967714
I don't know if editing AI is even possible.
Is it possible to get mobs modified through customNPCs to spawn through spawners?
That might work.

>>163967846
yes. you make a custom NPC and get a spawner for that specific entity.

So I finally looked into the Inventarium and it seems like this is really impractical without modded inventories that fit a few hundred stacks to a block
I was hoping for something to make searching a mess of different items easier, not advanced storage drawers with golem pathing delays

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Anyway to improve this? This is based on TF2 snakewater but Railcraft concrete looks kinda bland and I cant find a decent block similar to the original.

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Its kinda comfy desu

>>163968698
>>163968871
That looks dope. What's the radar from?

>>163969276
Communications dish from Galacticraft, is unaccesible unless you get it from NEI and it does nothing other than rotate looking for signals and look nice.

>>163968871
The left building looks like an angry skull.

>>163968698
Put some ugly shrubs in to make it look like some parts of the base are unkempt.

>>163970539
>unaccesible
can someone fork galacticraft so we dont have to deal with whoever made it being dead?
seriously if you know you arent going to update your code ever again, then open source it.

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>>163972117
I like the idea, gonna do that in the fenced part and in the dirt part when I smooth it.
>>163973357
Its not dead, hes working in GC4.

>>163973541
sauce?

>>163973695
https://twitter.com/micdoodle8?lang=es

>>163973910
>how he will reach
He'll probably be reaching to strangle that guy's throat.

>>163973910
What did he mean by this?

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>>163973357
you can just minetweak a recipe in anon it takes like five seconds here watch

recipes.addShaped(<GalacticraftCore:tile.dish>, [
[null, <minecraft:stick>, null],
[null, <minecraft:bowl>, null],
[null, <minecraft:iron_block>, null]
]);

done.

pic unrelated. I'm doing a little test with Thaumcraft.

>>163973910
> >>
Fucking god.

>Mod exists
>Documentation is either years out of date or simply non-existent

this should be a capital offense

>>163975465
God can't save you now

>>163978229
Upboated

>>163975465
Which is worse, that or "4-Chan"?

>>163962865
oh forgot to mention we should also ban any mention of devs like lex

>>163973910
Please someone murder him.

>>163979045
Devs like who?

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>tfw the chance cube gods are nice enough to not flatten everything within a 300 block radius when you use one near your house

>>163981148
>Sphax
>Natura clouds
>Using a chance cube near your base when knowing it makes everything around the area leave this dimension
>Using a chance cube
T O P C A N C E R

>>163981148
>>163855471

>spend several hours putting together a modpack
>don't really feel like playing

>>163949487
Do we really want this gimmicky PVP server, or something sane like a new tech serb?

See:
>>163949131
>Well, there isn't really any tech server up right now. We've got the GregClay, yeah, but that's a really.... unorthodox kind of technology.

>>163985548
let's see:
http://www.strawpoll.me/11979714/r

>>163986028
I want train serb
non-grand strategy pvp is for shitters

>>163985548
>we
>implying a gimmick like that isn't interesting
>implying tech serbs are ever sane or stay alive for more than a month
>implying anyone actually tries to go on any of the servers in the serb list

>>163986028
>survey questions that are totally objective

>>163954559
Oh, I see what you mean.

That's a consequence of those libraries being designed with flexibility / modularity in mind, though, not a consequence of it being open source. You can have open source things that are performant and not bloaty.

>>163986293
>grand strategy pvp
The most fun part of Paradox /gsg/ shit is manipulating the AI into doing your bidding whether it wants to or not, though. PVP sounds kinda eh.

>>163950094
As a workaround, you could enter a couple of characters into the search bar that yield zero results.

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>>163949131
>>163985548
The TFC serb just added buildcraft. I'm working on tweaking and adding recipes as we speak. It's going very well. It may be another unorthodox kind of server (gameplay based on downgrades, sidegrades, and not that many upgrades to speak of in comparison to your standard tech and magic servers), but it's still fun

>>163988674
japanese bird playing connect four

>>163988674
Modpack: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lxiz2ds6l4lez7j/TFC%20Serb.zip?dl=1
Server IP and port: 198.50.193.8:25594
Discord: https://discord.gg/vPJ8rvJ

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Bump.

Whats your project for today, /mcg/? I'm doing storage and sorting.

>>163988674
Its nice that even tho its ded and full of shitposts and people who ask obnoxious questions. We also have content creators like you that create and balance serbs and also take care of them, people who post builds, mods and interesting concepts like the dimensions or magic vs tech which fill the thread with good content.

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>>163990986
>tfw magic v tech actually has a serb host and putting the pack together begins tomorrow
>tfw I'm going to have to actually learn how to use minetweaker once I get all the configs working

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>>163990986

>>163991287
best moth

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>>163991119
As someone who uses it on a daily basis, I strongly recommend using this in conjunction with it: https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/minetweaker-recipemaker

It has a convenient in-game interface that greatly speeds up your work. If you make a mistake (I had mouse double click issues that would submit the same recipe twice up until I bought a new mouse recently), go to your main directory > scripts > the only folder inside that one > the only folder inside that one too > Crafting.zs, edit it with any text editor, save the changes and, instead of restarting your entire server, just type /mt reload to update the changes immediately

>>163991412
Maybe; she's certainly got competition in the yandere moth department

recommend me a 1.7.10 resource pack that doesnt require patcher or optishit

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Goodnight Badonkadonk

>>163991887
>patcher or optishit
Nothing does anymore, but you need to learn how to configure optifine.
And texture/resource packs a shit, vanilla a best

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>>163992036
>texture packs with distinctive styles clash with unsupported mods
>prefer vanilla to all the vanilla-esque packs I've seen
Sometimes I think being a vanillafag would be nice

>tfw Reika will never stick his Bedrockium shaft deep into your Bevel Gears

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>>163994082
Please don't remind me

>>163994082
>>163994406
whats that?

ded

>>163997717
Well obviously it's an innuendo but I actually want to know what mod they're referencing too.

>>164000678
Rotarycraft is aids, don't even fucking bother.

RTG sure is pretty but is such a shit to terraform and to build in those terrains
>spawn a beatiful hill
Its a slope so hard cant do anything in it.
>spawn a beatiful forest
Trees are 60 blocks high and are too close to each other so clearing terrain is a bitch.
Seriously the world is clean and improved but its a shit to build in one of those.

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Digits decides what I do with this awesome sinkhole.

It's depth is somewhere in the 133 block range.

>>164001456
>asking for dubs on a mostly dubless board
Are you stupid?

missile silo but with a benis instead

>>164000753
>actual engineering is aids
>I just need my 40x ore processing machines
>oh yea and a magic that shits out more magic blocks

>>164001961
>actual engineering
>Reactorcraft
>actual engineering
I spit on reika's shitty shitty interpretation of nuclear physics, and will one day, never ever top him easily

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I decided to experiment some little with icy jew nukes out of boredom.
Nuked inside the indestructable stone, one side had factory metal block, the other had blast resistance.

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This is pretty, tried to fuck the house using a small indestructible blocks covering the nuke to absorb most impact to send it to the shadow realm but instead did pic related and the house barely got damaged.

>>164002035
They weren't talking about reactor anything though.
What about reactorcraft though? I haven't ever bothered with it but i don't think there's any need to spit on anyones "nuclear physics" when all you have is big reactors and ic2, lol. Looked like extreme giganigga turboautism though with convoluted\elaborate it is

>>164003797
I will one day never ever do nuclear mod based on atomic science, but more autistic and put reika to shame
>radiation is huge orbs that only travel horizontally
fucking reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Rotary and reactorcraft run like ass though.
And it breaks the game to render stuff special like.
And if you care about modder DRAMA, reika is someone who pretty much everyone can agree is a horrible person.

>>164004052
>Rotary and reactorcraft run like ass though
I had a huge factory choke full on RoC machinery on top of other stuff and it run butterysmooth. Meanwhile Th. Exploration destroyed my fps with one shitty sealed jar, so meh
How's it nowadays btw? I avoid TExploration shit like a plague ever since witnessing it managing to bring my rig to it's knees just like that

>>164004052
>>radiation is huge orbs that only travel horizontally
A lot better then most mods with 'nuclear' reactors. At least it actually has tangible radiation that does more than give 'insert status effect'.

>>164004578
Radiation doing a block based AoE status effect that can be avoided with hazmat gear would be better than fucking visible balls.

>>164004578
Have you played with ReC more or less extensively? Is it possible to build small-scale reactor or are they fuckhuge only? I'll soon be delving into it but kinda hesitant on too big of a build

>>164004996
Fission reactors can be pretty small, fusions are always fuckhuge.
Turbines are more of the size issue.

>>163964467
>tfw Fabric is cancer because we made the explicit decision to only allow mixins and not coremods half a year ago because coremod accountability and debugging is a massive pain and we'd rather use something that actually makes hooking the game approachable

>>164007529
How exactly would anyone disallow coremods?

>>164009949
What are coremods? I'm still pretty new to modded MC. Mods that change vanilla MC classes/functions?

>>164009949
>>164010493
Okay, so let me explain briefly. Again.

Coremods are a special kind of mods which can register special code to modify the game's code, instead of just using Minecraft's and Forge's built-in interfaces/methods/etc.:

- Access Transformers, which let you make normally inaccessible fields and methods accessible to your code. (The same can be achieved with Java's built-in reflection, but slower; since Java 8, you can use MethodHandles, which, if used well, should have pretty decent performance);
- ASM Transformers, which let you modify the game's code arbitrarily by letting you modify and overwrite Java classes as they are loaded.

Now, nobody has a problem with the former; they are simple, well-supported by Forge and ForgeGradle, reasonably easy to create (especially in recent versions) and don't cause problems for other people. There's multiple issues with the latter, though, most of which amount to a total lack of accountability.

Since coremods take in a byte array with the file's contents and output another dump of the file, their modifications can be absolutely arbitrary. This means they can change any part of Minecraft or another mods' behaviour in any way. If done well, this is, of course, not a huge problem; however, if done poorly, it can have side effects such as breaking completely unrelated code in other mods or crashing the game. Since there's no accountability, and, even if you know what mods change what, roughly, the code changed might often not be directly related to the code affected, you end up having zero clues as to which coremod is causing the issues. This means we get witch hunts: coremods commonly known to cause issues are blamed for every single issue which seems slightly related - this is why many mods outright ban bug reports not reproduceable without, let's say, OptiFine, no matter whose fault it is.

>>164010932
What are some mods that are coremods

>>164010932
Thanks for the info.

>>164011304
>>164010932

Historically, Forge has gravitated between arguing for a total wipe of coremods and general indifference. The problem has been very slightly mitigated by adding a list of loaded coremods to each crash report. However, that still doesn't solve accountability - it only makes the witch hunts easier.

The Fabric mod loader project tried to solve this problem by replacing arbitrary bytecode modification with a more limited, but well-defined API - Sponge's Mixin system. It covers most of the common use-cases, even if it isn't as powerful as being able to do literally anything, and it has the benefit of being designed to catch common coremod mistakes.

After Fabric died down, some of its members have tried to convince cpw to use the Mixin API as their planned coremod replacement. What will happen out of it, I'm not sure - however, many other Fabric ideas are also making it to Forge, discovered independently - possibly because many of them are simply natural evolutions and improvements.

Either way, I have it on good authority that coremods are unlikely to be removed completely. (I also have it on good authority that there are changes coming to the Minecraft engine - good changes! ones which will hopefully improve performance! - which will annoy modders a lot more than the removal of coremods ever did due to the amount of adaptation work required.)

>>164011110
Many mods bundle simple coremods because of the difficulty of getting things integrated into Forge itself (until recently, when the Forge team got a person dedicated solely to interacting with contributors - that is mezz).

I can't really think of a specific list, but you can always check in a recent crash report.

>>163966834
Make yourself a bonsai treee

>>164011110

Reika's DragonAPI has a coremod that injects code into, not Minecraft's, but Forge's own code that manages the block ID mapping. It removes the special treatment Forge gives to IDs owned by Minecraft so that Reika can steal those IDs for himself.

It looked like he wanted to render flowerpots and redstone comparators in 3D when you are carrying them, but that part doesn't even work, so I'm at a loss as to what the real purpose is.

>>164012369
fursuit

>>164012369
and beds and nether warts for some reason

>>164012462
Surely there is a way to override the rendering for flowerpot items in hand without fucking with what is basically the core code that makes modded Minecraft work at all nowadays.

>>163973910
>wanting people to shitpost in Minecraft
This will get a lot of people muted

>>163973910
>>Leaking

>>163944360
>1.7.10
into the trash

>>164013280
>anything above 1.7.10
not everyone has 512 GB of RAM

>>164013608
For some reason 1.7.10 server kept lagging on my machine shitting "Can't keep my shit up" in the console, when 1.10.2, being demanding, only printed such shit after map loading. Same RAM amount allocated.

>>163944360
looks cool

>>163944137
what i'd really like is a mix between mariculture and JAFF
so, real fishes in the world (with a limited spawn rate because come on)

>>164012369
It's only one of the things DragonAPI's coremod does; it has a massive amount of hooks into the game. It's written so well that the FML block ID injection in particular requires you to install a special mod and load/save each DragonAPI-using world to fix the block ID mapping - just removing DragonAPI will corrupt block IDs on the world.

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>>164013912
>written so well

Anyone here have AcademyCraft? Everytime I try to use an ability, it crashes.

Crash Report: http://pastebin.com/Tep4AAQE

164013912
every time i think this general has hit a new bottom in bait, some retard manages to come up with even more unbelievable bullshit exhumed from the depths of his unwashed ass

>>164013735
disable the GUI

>>164015959
>massive amount of hooks
https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/DragonAPI/tree/master/ASM/Patchers/Hooks/Event
>FML block ID injection
https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/DragonAPI/blob/master/ASM/FMLItemBlockPatch.java
>requires you to install a special mod and load/save each DragonAPI-using world to fix the block ID mapping
From Reika's own website (https://sites.google.com/site/reikasminecraft/):
>MPORTANT NOTICE: If you remove DragonAPI from your world without first installing an FML patch (here), your modded block IDs will become scrambled and the world will be unusable! You can remove the patch after you have loaded the world once with it installed.

>>163930683
yeah but I don't think that's 1.7 or the same microblocks you're used to

>>163937852
>Yeesh. I wish someone would go into the LotR mod and cut out everything except for the armor and cosmetic blocks.
You could do it. You could also port it to the latest minecraft version. What's stopping you? If you care enough to play and mod this dead game, I'm sure you could just put out a bit more effort and get some wonderful things done.

>>164013608
I haven't had too much of an issue with RAM. Also, have you tried foamfix?

>>163964467
Staying on an old MC version is retarded, but I'll gladly push for us all to switch to Fabric instead of Forge. It should help that it'll continue to support coremods.

>>164017759
Fabric never supported coremods in the Forge sense, as per
>>164011543

>>164001224
git gud

>>164001224
I have the opposite problem with RTG. Slopes are too gradual and overall the world is too flat. I love the forests though.

I like terrain that is similar to amplified. I wish there was a mod that copied amplified, but maybe a toned down version of it.

>>164017759
Are coremods more powerful than regular mods, so we'll lose functionality if coremods are axed??

Ars Magica 2 or Thaumcraft?

>>164019902
If coremods are axed, I believe we'd be at the mercy of forge as far as getting the same functionality we had before. I think coremods are an alternative to Forge supporting new things that a mod wants to do.

>>164020219
Thaumcraft, but both are MAWPC garbage.

>>163964467
lmao take your fucking pills, you're being delusional

in the large world of the modding community this place is a little corner of a room; nobody knows we exist, even less people give a shit about our opinions

remember when people here were (and still are) refusing to abandon 1.7.10 because all the more recent versions are a steaming pile of shit? meanwhile reddit is actively encouraging people to play on the most recent forge supported version and downvoting anyone who dares speak against it, and their log is shit like "modders told me "let it go"" and "etho is playing a 1.10 modpack therefore you can and should too"

>>163949487
>being the idea guy who doesnt do any of the work

>wont even host/config his own pack

Its already DOA

>>164020219
Ars Magica 2 is famously buggy. Thaumcraft basically does everything Ars Magica does, but better. Anything left over is covered by Witchery.

>>164020219
Neither. Try IC2 experimental.

>>163964467
it's already been established that 4chan cannot enforce community rules, so it doesn't matter if coremod supporters are welcomed here or not.

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>>163964467
>he actually thinks "we" i.e. the sixty-something posters (at best) in this general can do anything significant to any aspect of the minecraft community, specifically, the tens of thousands of shit-eating yesmen over at /r/feedthebeast

>>164021969
reminds me that i should build one of these at some point

>>164023413
well, IEDs aren't that hard to make, but that'd be pushing things a bit too far
gorging lex of free pizza until he's too fat to reach the computer however is perfectly fine

>>164016671
>W E L L W R I T E N
It means your sarcastic commentary that he cant understand due to his autism.

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>>164021969
>>164024364
>reminds me that i should build one of these at some point
I say this about once every month or so. Still haven't built one.

I'm sorry, Automagy. I feel like I'm letting you down.

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FUCKING GROW YOU PIECE OF SHIT

>>164020315
Actually, no; the Launchwrapper can always be used to provide coremod-like functionality by passing a --tweakClass parameter to it - however, that's not very user-friendly.

>>164021969
I need to figure out how to set one of these up

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>>164024364
I was turned off by the size at first but after experimenting in creative I think I can make one work in my current castle
Thaumcraft is amazing but I end up doing this for half its mechanisms before actually implementing any of them for real

The taint conversion rate from log to crusted taint is brutal. Even with 11 ethereal blooms and relentless tree cutting, I was only able to save a tiny portion of the Silverwood Grove and rescue 4 non-node Silverwood trees.

With most of the remaining trees almost completely crusted over, it's looking like there's nothing left for me here.

>>164028591
Better to not fuck around and keep chunks loaded for too long until you have a bunch of totems to bring and help around with purifying focus
I only did small quick raids for resources and fucked as far off as i can, usually

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Thoughts? I haven't been using any other wood than oak yet, but I plan to fit it somewhere.

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>>164029609
inside view

>>164029609
>>164029802
Kinda cool. Some different types of wood and flowers would look nice up there.

>>164020801
But I am configing/minetweaking it, I'm just not the best guy at that sort of thing so if someone else wanted to do it I was going to let them.

>>164029802
It seems kind of spartan. Like, the kind of thing you make for a creative build but not lived in at all.

>>164007529
>>164010932
>>164011543
the problem overarching is that coremods generally exist because lex refuses to add the hooks for the functions those coremods' makers want to diddle with.

a loss of coremods is only a problem in the case of forge being the only relevant API, because of that.

a considerable array of coremods shouldn't exist, because the functions they're giving the modder(s) access to should already be made accessible through forge. (see: applecore and all the hunger related crap it lets people diddle with)

a considerable array of coremods should exist, because the functionality they're providing to their maker, while required to do what that person's mod wants to do, is not something that would be worthwhile to be available large-scale as part of the API because basically nobody else cares to do anything with it.

and then there are some coremods that shouldn't exist because they're just roundabout ways for the author to do shit their own way for no reason other than than ego, and in some cases (cough dragonAPI cough) make a giant fucking mess of shit in the process.

at days end it boils down to lex being a gigantic moron that's yanked forge so far off it's rails that there's no real hope for saving it.

>>164023413
the mindset of "I am irrelevant" is the biggest obstacle to getting shit done, faggo.

>>164030761
>lex refuses to add the hooks for the functions those coremods' makers want to diddle with.
Unless you got early into the circlejerk for 1.8+.

>>164001961
>actual engineering is aids
I don't think slapping down a gearbox and doing some basic math is anywhere close to actual engineering
>I just need my 40x ore processing machines
rotary craft is tied with mekanism for the most ore multiplication to come from a well known mod
>oh yea and a magic that shits out more magic blocks
It's got it's fair share of magic blocks

>>164030867
You're irrelevant though, faggo. First try and maintain at the very least this piece of shit general from lying comatose on page ten before letting your wet anal fantasies of underground resistance base fighting evil dark forge run wild

>>164031041
Doesn't Rotarycraft go all the way to 14x?

Pams harvest craft is the best food mod

You can't disprove this

>>164031559
But I can, because AppleMilkTea exists

>>164031470
5x iirc

>>164031614
Actually no, it's 5 steps with a chance to x2 at each, which all in all gives the average of x5.

>>164031594
It's nice if you want to use the food as decoration, but you can't beat the simplicity of salty mod.

>>164029609
>>164029802
>activate windows shows up ontop of game
Oh god, is that a win10 thing

>>164032045
Nah, it's windows 8. Although I don't know why it startet to bother me, I guess i'll have to give it a code again.

>>164007529
>not allowing coremods because of what-ifs

Fabric is dead, then.

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>tfw can't automate arcane workbench crafting
>tfw can't automate engineers workbench crafting
I just want to build a super OP factory that sells cheapo drills and magical trinkets to stupid villagers...

>>164035314
Applied Energistics addons have got you covered.

>>164031008
yeah, that's how they forced chickenbones out. mezz twerked off lex's dick for weeks. lex realized they could finally abolish coremods if it weren't for mods like NEI needing them, so they worked on what JEI would need in Forge.

RIP chickenbones, somebody who did more for the mod community than lex or mezz ever did or will

>>164030761
>the problem overarching is that coremods generally exist because lex refuses to add the hooks for the functions those coremods' makers want to diddle with.

Wrong. In many of these cases, Lex never even saw the hooks - modders just don't bother anymore because of very specifically his attitude towards contributors, which is why mezz handling the PRs instead of him is very welcome. Case in point - Lex has announced that he is willing to review a pull request for container events back in late 2013; to this day, nobody has submitted a single PR relevant to the matter, even though it's the single biggest API feature Bukkit had over Forge from a "server administration" point of view.

>>164033958
>what-ifs
No, just experience. Case in point: I remember when a certain mod author spent 6 hours debugging a bug in 1.7.10 which boiled down to a coremod change specific to CoFHCore - which wasn't present in his development environment, but - for obvious reasons - was present in just about every modpack.

>>164035530
Here's your ..............

>>164011543
>even if it isn't as powerful as being able to do literally anything, and it has the benefit of being designed to catch common coremod mistakes
that's not gonna work. we're not here to write pretty code, we are here to mod this game into whatever we feel like. I don't care how `'correct'´ (hah) the code is to some academist, I care what I can do with it.

but it can't be helped. everyone seems to act like Forge LLC somehow owns the right to modifying this game

>>164017759
>Staying on an old MC version is retarded
no, not at all.

>>164036007
>that's not gonna work. we're not here to write pretty code, we are here to mod this game into whatever we feel like. I don't care how `'correct'´ (hah) the code is to some academist, I care what I can do with it.

Sure, then you can just write directly for the Launchwrapper - which lets you provide a "tweak class" with functionality very similar to coremods. Or you can write for Meddle. Both aren't going away any time soon, especially as the former is a part of Minecraft.

Anyhow, if we want to ensure modpacks can be created in the first place, we have to make some compromises - otherwise, why don't we all just go back to JAR modding, with all of the downsides of that era?

>>164036007
>>164036346
Now, don't get me wrong, I know where you're coming from - it's more that I can't name a single modder who writes coremods for any other reason than that he has to, either because he doesn't want to pull request to Forge or because Forge doesn't want his idea or because he's doing something really crazy. Pretty much every modder out there will gladly welcome a less painful way to achieve the same things - and accountability/being able to easily see what exactly in the game's logic has been changed is very helpful for any sort of debugging, whether you're a modder, modpack dev or player. Being able to prevent the witch hunts is always nice.

Not that you need coremods to do terrible, breaking hacks to the game engine - FoamFix proves that well enough.

Have you ever written a coremod, by the way?

>>164035397
>Applied Ener
That's where I stopped reading.

But seriously, can AE automate crafting of blueprint items from Immersive Engineering?

>>164035993
>wrong
of course not. just because you keep defending the fool doesn't make people's refusal to bother with him less justified.

people don't submit this shit on git because they know from everywhere else lex interacts with others that the only result will being told "it's already there" even when it's not, called all manner of names and told repeatedly by lex that they're stupid and he's the only smart person, and then banned.

even YOU have faced the results of trying to reason with lex. you have no exuse to cover his ass by this point.

and I see no reason to assume any of his buttmonkeys will be willing to disagree with their master who presumes himself god-king of the universe, either.

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>>164035530
>RIP chickenbones
Chickenchunks a shit

I started a new world using Immibus's chunk loader. Haven't seen a hole in reality since.