scg/edg/ Star Citizen/Elite:Dangerous general #113

So i'm kind of new to SC and this Derek Smart stuff fascinates me.

Is he always so full of shit? Why do his followers still hang on his every word if what he says is so easily disprovable?

>>163903551
This OP is a piece of shit. New Thread! Thanks, anon. You don did gud.

>>163903685
Go look at any big star citizen video and look at the comments. It's just one of those games that's attracted trolls who have to shout it down at every chance they get.

Most of them are butthurt goons who're upset the game isn't going to be EVE 2.0.

Derek himself is, of course, completely insane however.

>>163903794
>Derek himself is, of course, completely insane however.

He seems more like an unrepentant liar.

>>163903685
Many of his "followers" are just people egging him on for the lulz. If you are familiar with chris-chan, then you know what I'm talking about.

Reading the OP and seeing 'loremaker's guide to the galaxy' has got me thinking of the Hitchiker's guide again.

I wonder how possible it'll be to play purely shipless, hitchiking across the verse documenting the crazies you find.

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>>163903918
Even Lowtax?

I'm about to buy SC and I was wondering what sort of performance I could get with i7-6700 and GTX 1070? I heard the fps issues are only because of the network thingy. Also when can I expect 3.00 to release? will that fix the fps issues too?

>>163904061
That response from this Lowtax fellow doesn't even make sense. It's a recommendation, so even if it were true CIG would not have to 'go around it'.

The fuck is wrong with these people? Brain damage?

>>163904068
I'm about to buy SC and I was wondering what sort of performance I could get with i7-6700 and GTX 1070?
About the same as everyone else with a mid-high end rig. That is, 25-40 fps, depending on how full the server is. Beyond that, there's no real way to tell yet.

>I heard the fps issues are only because of the network thingy.
True, those're meant top be fixed by 3.0 though when the new netcode hits.

>Also when can I expect 3.00 to release? will that fix the fps issues too?
No-one outside CIG knows when it'll hit. CIG probably doesn't know either yet, and any date they publish should be treated with extreme suspicion.

>>163904068
>will that fix the fps issues too?

If you want a stable game wait for release. If you're not okay with bugs and terrible performance then don't buy in.

>>163904142
He owns a forum where people pay him to post there, so yes.

>>163904068
>what sort of performance I could get with i7-6700 and GTX 1070

Buy a 1080 or Titan, you can't buy more computer than that. You're not asking how it will perform, you're dick waving. Go to YT to see how the game runs, you literally have the best gear sold. Dafuq do you expect?

>>163904068
I have a 1st gen i5 and an r9 270x. Its playable at my level.

Also, what >>163904305 said. Wave dick in battlestation thread.

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>>163903551
>scg/edg/ Star Citizen/Elite:Dangerous general #113

Stop fucking doing this STOP FUCKING DOING THIS

/scg/ NEEDS TO BE IN THE TITLE OF THE THREAD OR IT DOES NOT GET STICKIED BY MY FILTERS AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE

I'M SURE YOU THINK IT'S A FUNNY JOKE WITH THE [EMBED]S AND THE SHITTY OP BUT THIS IS THE THIRD THREAD THAT DOESN'T HAVE IT AND ITS FUCKING ANNOYING

FUCK YOU

Any news on when the Star Marine combat won't be so clunky?

these turn speed limits suck

does anyone think it's fun just slowly turning in circles trying to shoot someone?

>>163905092
When you stop touching yourself

>>163904901
you are more than welcome to make the next thread. But this anon stepped up so shut your mouth. Entitled fucking babies.

>>163905485
Alright. Now where's my combat patch Roberts?

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>>163904061
This motherfucker wouldn't read the TOS for his own project if you held a gun to his head, but he read hundreds of pages of an agreement he isn't even part of, to prove a point to people who either don't know who he is or laugh at him already because they do know who he is?

Is he a neckbeard that reached true neckbeard nirvana? Did he reach a level only attainable every couple hundred years by someone truly dedicated to not having as much tact as possible?

>>163905484
turn off gsafe and comstab then reduce your speed. If you still have an issue, try flying something other than your starfarer.

>>163905817
But, I like flying my Starfarer. In between missions we can play hide and seek by we I mean I would play with someone, if anyone else would have contact with me for more than 5 consecutive minutes, but that is totally unrelated as to why I bought the Starfarer in the first place and not at all why I also have a 890, BMM, and both Cats.

>>163905710
>stepped up
>spent 5 seconds copy/pasting the old thread
>this is admirable somehow
>expecting him to take 5 seconds more to delete the embeds and format the subject line properly, like every other thread on /vg/ manages to do, FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF PEOPLE WHO USE FILTERS
>this is entitled

I wish I could put snakes in your car

>>163904901
OP here, I don't usually make threads, but I did it after we hit the bump limit and were on the last page because no-one else was bothering.

But yeah, you know, better to let it 404 and drop off the board completely than to mess it up slightly in a way that triggers your autismo.

Or you could just do it yourself next time instead of whining, but whatever floats your boat anon.

>>163906230
Why don't you do it then ;)

>>163906258
Yeah you're a hero anon. You should be proud of yourself, you even got a personal dicksucker out of it who must be just as new as you and thinks making the OP is some kind of valiant public service.

Here's a little edification just for you. Including both backslashes in the subject line has nothing to do with my autism. It has to do with filters, a feature of this site you may be unaware of, but many people find very useful. When you fuck up the OP you fuck up everyone's filters until a new thread is made. Today you learned something new, congratulations.

>>163906328
I guess I will have to, since no one around here can be trusted to do it right or even understand why it's wrong

>>163906230
Why does anyone have to care about people who use filters, That's your call, not mine.

Also, do not own car.

>>163906532
Because the thread is here for many people, the thread is not here just for you.

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>>163906161
I'll be your friend. Do you want to ride in my freelancer?

Listen, man. I don't know you, but maybe if no one wants to hang out with you its because you've got a shit personality.

>>163906523
>When you fuck up the OP you fuck up everyone's filters

But I didn't fuck it up, I just copy/pasted it. Whoever wrote it fucked it up.

>>163906658
This thread is for people who can manage to use an 13 year old mongolian yogurt crafting website. You go make your special snowflake filter friendly reddit thread. We'll see which is better.

Run along now, pumpkin.

>>163906523
Hey!

You'd suck OP's dick too if ya got a taste of it. Fucking delicious.

>>163906687
Yes, hence
>no one around here can be trusted to do it right or even understand why it's wrong

I'll just make them from now on. Go take a load off champ.

>>163906803
That's pretty good from someone who clearly hasn't got the faintest idea how anything works around here, why it works that way, why people follow specific protocols so that it keeps working that way, or even anything at all about this Panamanian soap whittling imageboard, but I appreciate you've at least learned to reflexively call people Redditors, that's a big first step towards fitting in around here and I'm proud of you son.

>>163906669
Freelancers are obviously not large enough to play hide and seek on.

>>163907130
I didn't offer to play hide-n-seek, I offered to be your friend and ask if you wanted to ride in a freelancer. Here you go not listening and making unreasonable demands. No wonder you are all alone.

>>163906669
>2504 m/s
>not in quantum travel

What was meant by this?

the audio in AC is still pretty shitty when you're getting shot at. I turned off the music and there's barely any impact sounds. It sounds cool when they actually play but usually only when you're seconds from exploding

>>163905817
I mean the rotation limits

>download 2.6
>spawn Caterpillar
>fly to Covalex and park it just outside with the front door open
>equip Behring and hide in the engine room
>any time I hear doors opening, I emerge from my hiding space and murder the poor bastard who made the mistake to set foot upon my ship

I am the Alien now.

>>163907782
Seeing as it's ancient concept art, Quantum Travel could very well have been intended to just be you floating across the system, E:D-style. Fuckin' glad it's not that now.

>>163907890
What exactly did you expect, to be able to point your nose like its Quake?

>>163906669
whoever mocked this up should be the one doing UI layout

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>>163903918
Yes, merely pretending

I got E:D from the christmas sale and I want a ship for scanning space rocks/USS's and light bounty hunting in the bubble without handling like ass. What are my options.

Im getting frustrated with how easy my Freelancers gun hardpoints break off. Would the Connie Taurus be a worthy upgrade from Freelancer? Ive flown the Andromeda and it handles suprisingly well and the weapons were real nice. So Freelancer < Connie Taurus?

>>163912823
What are you asking? Yes, the Taurus is bigger, tougher, with more guns and more cargo space. So it's an upgrade in nearly everything, but also crew size, so you better make some friends if you want to get any value from it.

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So I'm stuck waiting a fucking week for my GPU and mobo to arrive so I can finally plug all these other pieces into them and have a functioning goddamned computer. But I'm really wanting to leap into Star Citizen when they finally arrive.

A flight stick sounds like it would be a lot of fun for a game like this and I imagine they're pretty popular for this game.

What is the best flight stick I can get my hands on for this game? Price is irrelevant.

>>163906230
>typing three letters into the catalog is so much work you'll write several long rant posts about having to do so

>>163911404
>a project nobody cares about
>literally the most profitable crowdfunded anything ever
yes, Derek is the delusional one

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>>163913129
Personally have a TM Warthog and I think its amazing. Plethora of buttons on the throttle are always useful too.

VKB is also very good but much more difficult to get a hold of.

Old image but you get the idea.

>>163914132
Thanks anon. I'll look into them.

>>163911793
ASP Explorer is probably the best all-rounder for stuff like that. It has a good jump range, is pretty decent in combat and even has a fair amount of cargo space.

>>163913021
Don't know its tougher, brosef. Not a flyable ship in the game yet.

>>163912823
Something is wrong with the 4 "nose" guns on the freelancer. They can be destroyed/damaged incredibly easy. Even without losing your shields. I have only seen this occur in the PU but may also be occurring in Arena Commander but I have only played a few matches recently.

If anyone wants to confirm this, just find a lightly armed pirate aurora and let him plink away at you while rotating and whatnot to ensure your shields are always up. Soon enough, your guns will stop working (or at least some of them).

>>163915268
It will be tougher, because it costs more.

>>163903551
Holy hell he looks like a shitskin in that pic

>>163916005
Kek

Why the fuck would they put on a sale just when everyone is busy with family events?

So, cig is on a holiday vacation now?

>>163916240
>Wow I'm so busy I can't even click on some website buttons
>>163916253
Is your brain on vacation?

>>163916315
>Wow I'm so busy I can't even click on some website buttons

Yep, didn't get on my computer all day, far better things to be doing.

>>163916402
Did you have better things to do for the entire ten days from when they announced there would be a boxing day sale. It sucks when you miss out on stuff because you aren't paying attention but it's not like they won't have a bunch more large sales next year.

>>163916796
Just wondered what the sense is in limiting it to such wierd days.

Extend it by a single day and suddenly not everyone has to plan their ability to get to a computer to buy jpegs

>>163916850
You can't ask simple questions in /scg/ since it's full of literal cultists. I'm surprised none of them have told you to kill yourself yet.

Yes it's a stupid time to put up a sale. They should last longer. But this is CIG so just accept it.

>>163916850
You do have a point. I think it's a marketing ploy, the limited time only buy it while you can shtick probably wrings a bit of extra money out of people who would normally save up for their .jpg and in the process realize they'd be happy with a cheaper one or they become skeptical and decide to withhold their money till launch.

>>163911793
Since you've just started I'd recommend the Cobra MkIII. It's multipurpose so you'll be able to outfit for exploring and fighting.

>>163910691
I'm talking about the changes in the latest patch dipshit

>>163917202
>dipshit for not reading your mind

Still don't know what you're talking about, by the way. Pointing your nose, especially with boost, is fine on the ships that are meant to be easy to point

>>163917335
they lowered the rotational speed at which ships can spin in the latest patch

in space things can spin freely and there would be no such limit so I think it is dumb especially when you're up close trying to shoot another spaceship

Can anyone help me. I'm on the 8th or 9th ICC mission and my log lists my objective as 'Locate the Starfarer wreckage site' but I have no indicator/marker as to where to go.

What do?

>>163917550
>8th or 9th ICC mission
Jesus christ. I thought there was only one.

How many are there? do you just keep going back?

>>163917491
In space things can spin freely sure, but the concept of inertia still applies so a bigger heavier ship is slower to start moving or change direction regardless.

>>163917604
>How many are there?
Well, there is at least 8 or 9. If I can figure out my issue I will get back to you on the final amount.

>do you just keep going back?
yes

>>163917491
What ship, specifically, do you take issue with?

>>163917638
which is why I said speed and not acceleration

I am fine with the ships having more inertia but the rotational speed limit is too low just to avoid anyone complaining about overshoot or to make everything a turn battle or something dumb

There's no point doing ICC missions. It's grind.

You get a few thousand aUEC from it, and then in 3.0 they will wipe all your currency. What's the point? Until they start respecting players instead of telling them that Star Citizen is a 2nd online job, they can fuck off.

>>163917826
Thanks for the exposé

>>163917550
In the Yela belt, near where you come in if you jump straight from Olisar, there's a derelict Starfarer. It shows up on your scanner as a friendly ship with no handle, as if someone has gotten out of it to E.V.A

>>163917826
>grinding alpha currency

lmao who would even think that

I'm more concerned that they're pumping out these missions just to prove they can make missions. It's hard to believe they'll have 100s of interesting missions that make you feel like you're exploring anytime soon

>>163917826

>earn currency
>buy guns and armour
>go have a bit of shooty fun times in Covalex and Kareah and play about with the clothing options

This isn't a difficult concept.

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>>163918082
>earn currency
>then have fun
So I'm right, it's pointless grindy shit. Stop replying to me if you are a cultist, it won't end well.

TrazIon
Ozzy
NKato

Biggest fail faggots in the Star Citizen universe.

>>163917760
Well inertia still applies to any movement so the ship shouldn't follow your input instantaneously but I do agree that it seems slow. I fly a hornet though so it's par for the course as far as I'm concerned. Also it varies by axis ship-to-ship due to the placement of maneuvering thrusters so there may just be a better way to pull turns in your particular craft.

>>163918242
Care to elaborate on why?

>>163918281
Do not forget Montoya.

>>163918154

>grindy
If you don't enjoy doing ICC missions then do something else.
The mission in itself is part of the gameplay. Finding the wreckage of some poor fucker's ship to report back to the ICC probe on the distress beacon.

Stop posting if you're an autist, it won't end well.

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Wow, another form of shitposter. Now the most common game mechanic is 'grind'.

>>163918418
>If you don't enjoy doing ICC missions then do something else.
They were fun in 2.5 until I did them the third time. Then all my aUEC were wiped. They can fuck off.

Alpha currency shouldn't be wiped in an alpha.

Having to grind credits before having fun is a shit cancerous way of making a game.

>>163918541

Do you understand the concept that this is development and random wiping of currency in the finished product will not be something that happens?
Having to earn currency again in the new patches in a test build of a game is a non-issue. You're testing the game, not playing it.

Is actually mining in a HazRES possible? Pirates kept spawning on top of me. Had to bail out even in a vette.

>>163918702
Then I've already tested the game and have no reason to test it again. Like I said here >>163917826 there's no point in doing them, it's grind.

Thanks for proving my point.

Im neither a star citizen fanatic or a goon but I sure as hell know that Derek faps to the native american woman.

>Holy shit, that waifu stalking

>>163918541
>Having to grind credits before having fun is a shit cancerous way of making a game.

You mean it's a way of making a game that you don't like because you value instant gratification and might not have much free time to play within.

The solution is to go play something else because nobody cares. I suppose I cared enough to reply but I have to go take a shit then make some breakfast so now's your chance to make some extremely witty shitpost to which I will appear to have no response.

>>163918882
>You mean it's a way of making a game that you don't like
No it's objectively bad because it goes against the aim and definition of game. Games are relaxing things that you do for fun. Grind is tedious and the antithesis of relaxing fun.

You've played too many shit games for too long and have become brainwashed. Undo the damage.

>>163918803

The only thing that seems to be proven is your juvenile autistic mindset that everything has to be immediately available to you at all times and development should immediately change the moment you play something.

Enjoy living in a life of pointless butthurt.

>>163918865
Sandi is native american?

>>163918932
>your juvenile autistic mindset that everything has to be immediately available to you at all times
You're not even a real person. You're a bot. Stop replying to me.

>>163918920

>Games are relaxing things that you do for fun

Then don't playtest development builds of games. Problem solved.

>cultists defending wiping everything every patch

they made it sound like shit would be in beta before they wiped anything. They are barely getting the basic physics working let alone a real economy or PU

which is why I'm just going to avoid all the quests until the game is sort of released. I doubt there will be that much content anyway

>>163918865
nobody cares about derek anymore

>>163918972

Stop posting in this thread.

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>>163918997
>Then don't playtest development builds of games
According to the other cultist, I'm not "playing" them, I'm "testing" them. And it seems like you missed the part where he proved my point, there's literally no point in "testing" 2.6 PU missions since they are repeated grind content with no persistence or meaningful content.

>>163918972
If he's a bot, why are you replying to him? Wouldn't that be pointless? Are you a bot?

Did I just pass a Turing Test?

>>163918154
>it won't end well.
what are you gonna do about it

>>163919085

>everyone is a cultist but me

Go to bed, Derek

>>163919096

he's gonna epic pwn u and call u a cultist m80 better be careful, he's a supreme gentleman and far superior in intellect. He has over 300 confirmed REEEEEEEEEEEEs on the internet over trivial bullshit.

Derek Smart is pretty much the voldemort of CIG

>>163919234
Voldemort was a relevant antagonist

At least I think? I don't actually read shitty YA fiction

>>163919243
Sleep snug slug

>>163919085
What if I haven't played the missions before? Can I have your permission to play them in that case? Please get back to me soon, really eager.

>>163919378
>What if I haven't played the missions before?
You'll do them and buy some flight suit or armor suit with your aUEC, then CIG will shit on your head in 3.0 and wipe your aUEC and then cultists will tell you that you're delusional for not wanting to have to do the content again to grind aUEC to buy more stuff.

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>>163919243
this nonargumemt "but look how much money they have!" is starting to lose it's lustre. it never made sense, but it gets more worn with every update that gets ignored. no one has ever pointed out how much money EA has when laughing about Battlefield bugs, because everyone knows that would be stupid.

>>163919085
>no persistence

The aUEC you earn from doing them is a form of persistence.

>>163919461
>it gets more worn with every update that gets ignored
Yes, at 200 million people will be glitching through doors and doing hilarious bugs, and you won't care.

>>163919486
>The aUEC you earn from doing them is a form of persistence.
The aUEC that got wiped and no longer exists? So we agree; there is no persistence in the PERSISTENT universe and there's literally no point in me "testing" it any more. Thanks for agreeing with me.

>>163919456
So, that's a "yes?" I have received your authorization to attempt a mission?

>>163919085
Ok, so don't play it.

I don't why you and the other anon need to shit yourselves over this. If you don't like it, you don't have to play it. Wait for 3.0 like many others.

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>>163919561
>Wait for 3.0 like many others
So I can grind the ICC chain again until my aUEC get wiped in 3.1?

>>163919535
No.

You said there is NO persistence. I pointed out the money you earn persists. I never said it was infinitely persistence. I have proven your statement that there is "no persistence" false. Please apologize.

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>>163919535
It hasn't been wiped yet though. I think when it gets wiped you should come back here and complain, but until then you really just can't because you still have it and can spend it

>>163919603
Sounds like you can't handle the way SC currently functions. It's clear the current state of SC does not live up to what you want it to be, so simply forget about SC until beta. This is an alpha of an in-production game. There will be updates, and their will be wipes. End of story. You can either play it now for what little enjoyment you can get, or you can just forget about it until far in the future when there will not be any wipes.

Your complaining here changes nothing.

>>163919770
and your defending SC for free changes nothing

>>163919818
Quit whining, ofc they're not going to let you keep the money you make during alpha

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Do you realize that you are arguing against a troll who pretend to believe that any form of game-currency is evil?
Even if there was someone that stupid the only solution is to not bother with them

I'm starting to wonder if it's not the shitposter bumping himself

>>163919818
I didn't defend it. I showed you your options. I'm not even the original anon you were arguing with. Your incessant complaining on a 4chan thread will not make CIG reconsider wiping aUEC. Forget about SC for another 2 - 3 years, or play it for what its worth, and that is up to you. End of story.

>>163919874
they could easily let you keep money and unlocks inbetween patches so you could continue """""testing""""" them

persistence

>>163920012
What if they make an update or something?

>>163919992
and I'm not the original guy you were arguing with xD

how about I complain about whatever I want. As there is much to complain about with SC

>>163920012
That would defeat the purpose of each phase of testing

>>163920047
Then focus on something important, like all the missing stuff they've yet to build

for real there was no good reason to wipe between 2.5 and 2.6, in fact it would have been a better test of persistence to keep money and purchases and see whether they got fucked up at all by the patch.

but it's not that big a deal and everyone was expecting it.

@163920047
Now I see, you just want to pointlessly argue. No (You) this time.

>>163920062
lol like there's anything to actually test

there isn't even cargo or trading

it's literally just play two missions and buy a gun or hat or whatever. Nothing QA can't already test

>>163920165
no (You) for anyone, ever again.

2.6.1 when?

>>163920204
I can tell how many games you've developed

>>163920432
>still replying to him

>>163920432
wow so you're a game developer then? no

just pointing out that SC cultists are deluded that any of this has anything to do with testing or "phases" rather than giving backers the only content they have to replay over and over for the next few years as they try to finish the basic game systems they promised would be done a long time ago

>>163920652
How do you know I'm not? Oh you actually don't

>>163920686
wow right back at you :^)

>>163920701
No, I can tell you're definitely not

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https://thehftguy.com/2016/06/15/gce-vs-aws-in-2016-why-you-should-never-use-amazon/

>>163920904
Inb4 the author of that web page gets sent a hundred death threats by cultists.

>>163920973
Help me write him a death threat /scg/

>Dear thehftguy,

>>163920904
>a-amazon is shit, i-i swear, guys

>>163920748
hmmm tell me more. Is preordering games 10 years in advance big in the industry these days? or a massive marketing campaign for promised features and digital goods before they're even designed?

tfw played AC in 2014 and cultists are still saying to just wait years more and stop complaining

>>163921161
>tfw played AC in 2014 and cultists are still saying to just wait years more and stop complaining

Yup, would be nice if you did.

Alternatively, get a refund because you can't handle it.

Bitching about things on a mongolian cartography forum won't change things, its just irritating for the rest of us.

>>163921161
>10 years
>preordered in 2014
>current year 2016
hmmm indeed

Well theres always the Polaris

>>163921263
you think they'll have 100 finished star systems and all their hyped features before 2022?

they have like two landing zones

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>>163921246
>trying to reason with a troll
>admits to being irritated on 4chan by text typed on a screen

You are the reason that they continue shitting up the thread. It's clear he just wants your angry replies. Being correct isn't the goal of the other anon - just pissing you off is enough gratification for him to continue.

>>163921306
a beaut. I want to see a Polaris kill a Caterpillar.

>>163921354
i guess we'll see

>>163921409
Being a condecending prick is equally bad.

reminder that derek smart is a mentally ill nigger and failure as a game dev

>>163921496
>>163919010

>>163921409
no I'm actually just stating my opinion on the quality and progress of this video game. You're getting really triggered about it because you're a cultist

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>>163921620
>stopped caring about being called a racist long ago
>mfw someone thinks i care about being called a cultist

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So these new missile racks.

Behring MSD-616 "Marsden" Missile Rack is a S6 rack..

What the fuck does that attach to?

Actually, scratch that, what do any of the ones above S3 attach to, considering thats the size of the Gladiator wing hardpoints, no? What the hell is mounting S4/5/6?

>>163922942
Just as an example: Constellation has s4 missile hardpoints.

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What kind of weapon setup is the Vanguard even supposed to use? None of the S4 or S4 weapons match the projectile speed.

>>163922942
Freelancer, Vanguard, Cutlass and Aurora LN have S4 mounts, but so far nothing has S5 or 6. In theory the Gladiator bay has S6 mounts with 625 racks, but you can't exchange those.

>>163923030
Yeah, but those are custom launchers and can't be swapped.

>>163922942
>>163923030
Gladiator has s5 and Retaliator has s6.

>>163923030
Yeah but they're proprietary. Can't put these things on there, has the box/magazine launchers

>>163923128
Torpedoes, and the Retaliator has S9s.

>>163923047
That sucks.

I was hoping to get a S4 on the wing pylons, at least. Really is the only thing the Gladiator has going for it after all.

>>163923047
There are 3 s5 weapons that are only 100 or so slower. That's close enough.

>>163922942
Vanguard has s4 missle racks

>>163923491
>Vanguard carries the same external missile payload as the Gladiator

fugg

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How will the "weapon lock" system work? Afaik in Port Olisar you just can't fire weapons, making the station relatively safe. Do CIG plan to implement a workaround or something to allow players to possibly attack "secure" areas like this? It needn't be easy or cheap, but keeping that door open would lead to interesting gameplay.

>>163923526
According to http://starcitizendb.com/ships/ANVL/ANVL_Gladiator

Van has two size 4s

Glad has two size 3s & two size 6s

>>163923708
pretty sure the weapon lock feature is temporary. once AI cops are in it will no doubt be changed somewhat.

>>163870859
Jesus christ, I'm starting to think you all have dicks for eyeballs.

You can see the fucker medpen.

>>163865656
>>163865858
You can literally see the fuckers lob their grenades at you. It's your own damn fault for not paying attention. And if you can't see what these guys are doing, maybe turn your damn gamma up, or the brightness on your monitor.

>>163884363
>>163881735
>>163881859
Amazon hosts Grand Tour...
Lumberyard...
It could happen. I hope to god it happens.

>>163923708
Just a guess, but I bet there will be one "armistice" station per system for all the interior systems. There will be no way around it, they are just peace zones. Kinda like Shattrath

>>163923787
Four S3s, two per wing.

So I can carry 16 S1 Missiles with MSD-341 x 4
Vanguard can carry 16 S1s with MSD-481 x 2

>>163923708
>>163923832
It's probably work somewhat similar to the way towns work in the witcher.

Being in "secure" space means power down your ship weapons and keep personal weapons holstered, failure to do so will draw attention and a warning from local law enforcement, refusal to comply will result in attack.

>>163923875
>responding to posts from a day ago

nigger what are you doing

>>163923875
I am amused by your dedication to a dead thread.

>>163923891
Why would you carry size 1 missiles when you could have better?

Besides, that discounts the S6s which are obviously taking up a lot of loadout "space."

Any way to filter out the concept art ships from the ship store?

Checking out each one to actually see if they are purchasable is a waste of time.

>>163924092
S'why I said external.

I only mentioned S1s because it makes it clear how big the jump is between S3 and S4, they're literally twice as capable. Bit of a huge difference, unlike the difference between Badgers/Bulldogs which is more incremental.

S1 - 4 rocket pods when? Would enjoy having almost a hundred S1 rockets on a gladiator for death volleys.

>>163923405
Yes, but those are the Vanduul guns and you can't just equip them.

>>163924564
my b

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>>163924514
I'm keeping my Gladiator warm for just such an occasion.

I really do want more skill-based gameplay with missiles/rockets.

>>163918920
You do understand that "grind" is a subjective thing and that some strange people actually find doing tedious repetition to be relaxing?

I seriously don't understand what your problem is. If you find the ICC missions grindy, then don't do them. Go do something else. If your complaint is that there's nothing else to do, welcome to fucking Alpha.

>>163920154
They didn't wipe unlocks.

>>163924816
Waiting as well. They're really good at taking down shields, and do require more skill than missiles. My favorite thing about them is the disorientation. When I had a Delta the rockets wouldn't do a massive amount of damage, but it made their ships lose control and sometimes crash.

>>163924827
>>163925094
nice try faggot. Now fuck off

If they stay in line with the one QA that stated that the Vanguard Harbinger has stronger nose guns than the Warden (and armor exclusive to its hull that can't be swapped via BUKs) it might actually be a really good ship. I hope they redo the exterior for the variant release though, but that's probably not gonna happen.

>>163923962
>>163923978
Yeah, I have work, and sleep, and other real life things to attend to, so I read, catch up on, and reply to large chunks of threads at once. There are generals I've read literally every single post on for 3 years straight.

>>163924147
Uh, if you're in the actual ship store, IE: Store -> Extras -> Standalone ships, then all you see are the ones you can buy.

However, to filter out ships that aren't flyable at all in the ship grid is another story, and I've no idea if it's possible.

>>163924147
I don't remember but you can see what's permanently available with this

http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_ship_prices

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I know this is a bait shitpost, but maybe SC would actually get finished if CR wasn't in charge anymore.

So the herald has unremovable gimbals on the wing mounts, should I just roll with that and put a s2 gimballed gun on the nose or lock the wings and use a s3 instead? To be honest I prefer fixed but the herald turns quite slowly.

>>163925581
If Chris wasn't in charge we would get a shittier game. I don't care if he takes his time, it's not often that game devs have the luxury of doing so.

>>163925581
>>163925721
I mean, you're right. We'd get the game a lot sooner.

Gutted of everything that matters.

>>163925721
True, but I think sometimes it sounds like he micromanages to an autistic degree which impedes on progress more than it actually improves the game.

higher FOV != advantage

Please, CIG. Don't restrict our FOV but also don't try to balance armor by obstructing our view with a shitty helmet overlay.

>>163926054
protection comes at a price

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>>163926054
Fuck, I forgot this

>>163925851
Has Chris ever managed a team this big before?

>>163926171
Wikipedia tells me that Origin Systems had 45 employees before EA took over in 1992. It expanded to 300+ employees by 1996 but that's the same year CR left and founded Digital Anvil which CR apparently says he founded it to bring back the "small team" element of PC game development. It doesn't say how many employees it had but of course Chris jumped ship once again when Microsoft took over.

It seems that Chris avoids people in suits telling him what to do like the plague. Now that HE is the person in a suit telling people what to do, though, he's perfectly fine with that and he's fine with working with a big team. It makes sense then that he wants to be an all encompassing leader trying to make sure every little thing is done his way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_Systems
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Anvil

>>163926619
CR names ship manufacturers after his past companies? Haha he's got a bit of an ego too

>>163926619
>It seems that Chris avoids people in suits telling him what to do like the plague. Now that HE is the person in a suit telling people what to do, though, he's perfectly fine with that
there's a difference between a corporate suit who wants to maximize profits and chris who is passionate about games and is a creative person himself.

>>163926818
It's just a reference for his long term fans, they love that shit. Wouldn't be surprised to see kilrathi easter eggs and such in the final game.

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Now that I think about it, CIG can really make bank on skins when the game is ready to completion. They're hella easy to make and you have millions of people with pretty ships who might want them to be prettier. It keeps a flow of money after release that doesn't include selling ships and gives no real advantage to people who have them. Maybe even have a system where people can pay money 2 or 3 dollars every month to have their org symbols (after approval) be on their ships or something. All of which is monitored by CIG through an approval process.

I'd probably pay for that.

>>163926818
He uses it against companies he doesn't like, too.
https://youtu.be/v8BL8gXjc54?t=2m47s

>>163926832
I never said it was a bad thing, but I can see how it sounds like I did. There needs to be a balance of visionaries and realists at a company like CIG and I just hope there's people around Chris keeping him in check and not just a sea of yes-men. I think his brother Erin might be a good guy for this.

>>163926912
The Vanduul are pretty much the Kilrathi 2.0

>>163927450
Fuck skins.
Back in my days they were earned in game by doing something cool, not paid for in the store.

>>163927691
You can have that, too. In fact, we kind of already do.

>>163927691
>>163927450

Reminder that all items in game, however rare or limited, will be obtainable without spending real money.

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>>163927691
But if they're not selling ships or in-game shekels en-masse like now, how will they continue to bring in dough?

I personally like the idea of skin presets for sale. They're not PTW, they're not ships, they're not UEC, and they could look cool and be made in large quantities. I mentioned the expanded version of that, org mates paying money every month to have their CIG-approved decal be on their ship hull since everyone will want it. This doesn't mean you can't also have skins that you earn. Maybe a custom skin for earning some kind of in-game status that can only be earned through whatever mission provides it, but both can work at the same time.

>>163927493
Yeah, Erin seems like the level headed one. I'm glad they're working together since they seem to compliment each other.

>>163926171
>Has Chris ever managed a team this big before?
I see the size of the company as an advantage. If it was a small team he would try to micromanage everything, since it's big he can't and is forced to accept the work done.

Beside he already learned the lesson from his Wing Commander movie.
The problem wasn't the size of the team, but the time scale he had to deal with. He tried to fit a 50hours game into a 2h movie, and he didn't have the time to do everything right.

So at worst we will get Star Citizen in 2years.

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[extreme disappointment]

>>163928398
2020 is my safe bet as a fully released game. A lot has happened this year that puts the rest of the development to shame, so things generally do seem to be happening faster, but It's simply not fast enough for 100 star systems, tons of landing zones, etc.

>>163928529
>but It's simply not fast enough for 100 star systems, tons of landing zones, etc.

You have absolutely no clue how much they've completed on that side of things.

Stanton went from us knowing absolutely nothing to being 100% done. They simply do not keep us appraised of everything they're doing.

>>163928185
They ALREADY have the money to keep it going for years, assuming they added nothing more

And they will sell two games easily worth 80$ each to a public who either hadn't heard about it or shied away. Plus all the retard who pretended to stay away from this scam and discovers the game is there now.

What you have to wary about are game company who act as if they were strapped for cash and still make 1st day DLC.

>>163928529
you're forgetting that the bulk of work is going into sq42 right now. when those people shift to work on the pu progress is bound to increase.

>>163928529
>but It's simply not fast enough for 100 star systems, tons of landing zones, etc.
I think CR said that they would call the game 1.0 when they have like 10 star systems finished and would add the others later

>>163928398
>If it was a small team he would try to micromanage everything
Usually in smaller teams though Chris works with people he knows and trusts and who share his "vision". It could still be a problem though.

>since it's big he can't and is forced to accept the work done
Doesn't like literally everything have to be run by Chris first before it can go into the game? Wasn't that what the entire Kotaku article was about, if it's to be believed?

>>163927450
I'm already tired of seeing this fucking skin let alone that its a Kill on Sight skin anyways

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>>163928529
Don't forget that they are hiding contents.
They have the Idris near entirely made, flyable, and I would bet they won't release it as soon as the Network can handle a bunch of them.
They had planets and others (plural) landing base for long before the first planetary demo.
Remember the 1 minutes long flyby after the ATV on procedural generation ? Well, I'd bet it's nearly complete because They CAN'T do the exterior and the interior separately (since it's the same world with no teleport)

And then there's SQ42 but myself I don't believe they can do it without essentially doing Star Citizen too.

>>163928529
The coming year will have most of the game mechanics ironed out, so the "foundation" will be nearly complete. With 300 people working at CIG, it'll probably take another whole year of asset building to get the 10 systems in, and by the end of that year a sizable asset library will be built, accelerating further world-building. I think late 2018 is a more realistic number.

>>163928748
[Source needed]

>>163928858
It have of course, but since the work behind have huge ramification he either ask for minor change or won't be able to work on the next things he want.

This is not necessarily a bad thing, that why we will have a very complex gameplay rather than the same shit mass-procedurally generated everywhere.

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>>163929080
Why do they hide this shit? Logically it doesn't make sense. Showing off their sexy assets only increases public confidence in the project and as a result taps into the base of more cautious potential backers. More dollarydoos.
I really just want to see the idris in-game. ;_;

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>>163928607
I still have a very hard time believing that they have any significant progress done on anything more than Sq42, ships, and Crusader. This is the only logical position I can hold, given their track record. I'll need a significant amount of proof, meaning huge releases larger than expected, before this mindset changes.

>>163928673
The huge flow of money, which is the pledging of ships to backers, is going to (hopefully/supposedly) stop when Beta or game release happens. For the huge expansions they plan to make, I expect them to keep, and even expand, their current 350 team of people to make amazing shit for us as free expansions. This isn't sustainable forever, so they'll need some amount to keep things going with a safety net of money incase major shit goes down.

>>163928706
Both Chris and Erin said that as soon as Sq42 episode 1 is done, they'll go straight to episode 2. Crossing fingers that they focus on PU at that point though. If all studios are full into the PU after episode 1, my fears will go away immediately.

>>163929080
This is true. However, my inner cynical kike makes me assume almost the worst until proven otherwise - that shit's just taking forever

>>163928748
says who?

>>163929127
Will wait until then. If the promised careers are implemented in a working and fun state that is expanded upon rapidly, then maybe I'll drop it down to 2019.

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>>163929657
> I expect them to keep, and even expand, their current 350 team of people

>>163929080
>>163929551
^this

there's no reason to hide anything more than Sq42 spoilers. If they were "hiding" 8 landing zones that were almost done, why not show it off or release it? That'll certainly draw people in and give people less shit to fling. If they had 5 space stations that were ready to go, there's no reason to let them sit there while everyone is crying about lack of content.

>>163929937
>If they were "hiding" 8 landing zones that were almost done, why not show it off or release it?

Because of the immense, militant level of criticism they recieve for every minute detail.

That and wanting to release bigger attention-grabbing patches with more content.

>>163930031
anon, people will always complain about small shit, but in the face of large volumes of content most dissenters stay quiet or are ignored more.

>>163929756
how else are they going to make the huge-ass expansions chris always talks about?

>>163930031
I think the SC community is, generally speaking, pretty accepting and tolerant of CIG's mistakes. Reddit and the official forums police harsh tones and [CONCERN] pretty heavily. 4chan and the E:D forums are the only places I know of that are consistently critical of CIG's process. The gaymen media is another story. They pounce on whatever they can misrepresent, such as the lumberyard switch, for clicks.

>>163930191
>how else are they going to make the huge-ass expansions chris always talks about?

Even the largest of expansions would be a tiny fraction of the manhours compared to creating the original game and assets. Don't need 350 people for that. Certainly wouldn't do it for free.

>>163930245

This is broadly true except for those salty mouthbreathers who dwell in the Ship Discussion part of the forum.

Holy shit I have never seen such whiny brats. All they do is fucking complain that their ship needs a remodel or a buff.

>>163930245
>E:D forums
Sadly it's difficult to find the actually valuable criticism when their SC thread is riddled with goonery, saltiness, and misinformation. I'm not sure if it's just a retardedly vocal minority there, but it seems like that forum has just created an anti-cult cult against SC.

>>163930627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDbeqj-1XOo

>>163930627
they're too mentally deficient to understand irony

>>163930627
It's not exactly the place for constructive criticism of CIG. E:D is a competing game and most of them adopted the "Us vs. them" mindset, viewing their purchasing of E:D as aligning themselves against SC.

>>163930245
>E:D forums

Fuck no. That's some kind of anti-shill echochamber.

They're just as bad as the shills.

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>>163930347
But that's where my original premise of skins for money was about. CR said he wants to add large expansions for free. Obviously that takes man hours and time. The scale he describes them to be at makes me believe that the team will not shrink much after release. To sustain a company this large for years to come that creates free, large expansions would require a constant source of money, which is where the skins idea comes from. They won't sell massive quantities of UEC, nor will they continue selling all of the ships.

This is why i'm warming up to the idea of a skins system. They're relatively easy to make, everyone and their mother will want one, orgs members can pay constant fees for special tags, and this will drive the money needed for the expansions.

>>163930834
>CR said he wants to add large expansions for free.

[source needed]

skins wouldn't pay for 350 permanent staff in a million years.

>>163930828
I said critical, not constructively critical. :^)

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>>163929551
>Why do they hide this shit? Logically it doesn't make sense
As if you never kept your best stuff for the big reveal...
That's also a very very logical way to manage hype.
If you let everybody run in (someone's else Idris) as soon as it's ready, they'll eventually get bored (yes they will) and build up unrealistic expectation (remember No Man's Sky).

>>163929657
> The huge flow of money, which is the pledging of ships to backers, is going to (hopefully/supposedly) stop when Beta or game release happens.

They have an huge team to make the game from 0 to 100%, the "expansions" you wish for will be like adding 20% more.
And I hope you aren't one of those idiots hoping for 50 more procedural systems, CIG made it clear that empty planet are only good as decoration.

> that shit's just taking forever
That's only because you aren't used to see a AAA game being developed. Only overhyped game take only than 2 years to pump out, many game of the years took around 6 and some already had a Game Engine to improve

inb4 someone claim SC is starting again from scratch

>>163930245
>I think the SC community is, generally speaking, pretty accepting and tolerant of CIG's mistakes.

No it really isn't. The SC community on Reddit is Bi-Polar, either they're in ecstasy at the latest concept sale or they're rioting over some trivial detail.

The serious criticisms are drowned out.

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Does HE still haunt the forums?

>>163930974
Usually the only time people make criticism on the subreddit is when CIG makes a big PR mistake or when there's some sort of drama within the community. Most of the time though it's just dads circlejerking about game balance in an alpha in order to justify buying unreleased ships for a game they might not live to see.

With all the drowning out of serious criticism, [concerns], and even intolerance of slightly harsh tones, Reddit will never be a place to properly discuss SC outside of the usual drama-filled times when the dads actually begin to question their $5000 "investments" and begin to leave their echo chamber. That is of course until they inevitably recede back to praising and thanking CIG not even a week after they fuck up.

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>>163930892 >>163930834
1) as said he already have enough money to make the game run for YEARS (just compare the budget with other games and negate marketing shit)
2) there will be a huuuuuuge income when the rest of the world can buy TWO complete games
3) CR is against unethical money making scheme. Having players use/access content unavailable unless you pay is just not imaginable.

You don't even have to worry about him reducing the size of the team, they'll be debugging all years longs, SQ42 is to be made in 3 (free) parts because its scope increased

>>163931374
I don't understand. Did he buy the $15k package?

>>163931535
Right so you don't actually have a source, its just pure conjecture from a post in 2013.

lmao.

>>163931374
I really hope his crew mutiny on day 1, and he has a forum meltdown
>sounds fun

>>163931535
SQ42 was never supposed to be 3 free episodes. It always was that the first episode of SQ42 is what you've already bought, then SQ42: Behind Enemy Lines would be a separate game you'll have to buy which isn't on sale now.

How have you deluded yourself to think CR was some sort of charity case?

>>163931636

He got butthurt that he couldn't buy one because scalpers swooped in and snatched them all and proceeded to sell them on ebay for nearly double the price

Was a big controversy during the sale

>>163931806
Did scalpers piece them out or sell the whole package together at $30k? If there is a single man on this world who spent $30000 on internet spaceships, I will be shocked.

>>163931908
We call them whales. They spend tens of thousands of dollars on star citizen ships.

I wish it were a joke.

>>163932052
>We call them whales.

You think whales are a phenomenon unique to Star Citizen?

>>163931908
>If there is a single man on this world who spent $30000 on internet spaceships, I will be shocked
where do you think you are? we were talking about people who were seriously at the halfway point anyways

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>>163932052
>inb4 CIG is just laundering money from real investors through insanely priced ship packages
>inb4 whales don't actually exist and it's just a narrative unofficially fabricated by CIG
>inb4 this "100% crowdfunded" thing is a farce
>mfw

>>163932052
>We call them whales.

Whales aren't something only star citizen has, they're the whole reason mobile games exist for example

>>163932251
>>>/x/

>>163932251
secretly chris is just buying pledges himself with his income from past ventures then selling them on ebay to buy more

>>163932340
>mobile games

And long, long before that Tabletop Games.

Kids these days I tell ya, no respect for history.

>>163932148
>>163932340
I know it's not an SCG only thing. I typed that with the assumption that >>163931908 didn't know anything about them.

>>163932251
this kills the chris

Also collectable card games.

Boy howdy, ain't no whale like a MTG whale.

>>163932416
>have a friend whos dad is into warhammer 40k table top, has 1.3m home in rich side of town with 6 bedrooms 1 dedicated to just a table top battle display worth over 47,000$

>>163931806
You're referring to the standalone javelins right? You can buy the 15k pack right now if your credit limit and tendancy to make poor financial decisions are great enough.

>>163932380
http://www.savewalterwhite.com/

[https://www.savepcgaming.com/](https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Combos/The-Completionist-Digital)

(le plebbit formatting)

I would like the Redditards currently in this thread to just back.

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How long until the redesign of the Redeemer is complete?

>>163933290
I hope they junk the Redeemer. Just say that the model is too old and that it's too complicated to fix.

>>163933290
never it will be removed then forgot in 3.0 because the whole thing sucks

So this game is coming out in 2017 no more delays right?

>>163933691
Yes

>>163933618
also they will given everyone who pledged for it a vanguard :^)

>>163933691
2018 most likely after the get there kits finished shouldn't take them long to streamline everything after that and put it all together.

and it will be getting faster and faster updates over 2017+

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>>163927450
Yep, i'd totally pay for that.

I'm still waiting on the 300 series rework, but depending on how it turns out I might upgrade it to a Sabre.

I actually really like the Carrack concept, but until we have a better idea of how NPC crew members will work I don't want to invest in anything with manned turrets.

>>163933942
300 rework is more overdue then cutless

I myself have a BMM and Conni but wont be getting any other group ships for that same reason the BMM was pushing it but was still listed as atleast 4 guns under pilot control with 2 manned turrets

Carrack is something im following till then.

>>163933290
Its already complete, its called the Hoplite

>>163934210
Which in and of itself should get a rework
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhiaGAnOalA

STAR-T7T2-5L6J

>>163928673

That's horseshit. They have collected $140M now, which if it's all spent on the developement process is probably just enough to get the game we all want. Developing a huge game like this is a fuckload of work, you can't underestimate it.

CIG is going to need a steady cash flow to maintain this game, and seeing the scale of it if they actually continue to develop new content and updates there's no reason SC shouldn't be active for a decade or more. All that takes money, though, and personally I'm totally fine with it coming from the sale of trinkets and cosmetic items.

Just look at how much money people invest in TF2 hats or DOTA skins, all these dads will go nuts with spaceship paintjobs. It's a good way to keep cashflow going without actually harming anything.

>>163934474
STAR-FUCK-OFF

Reddit pls go

Why would you even come here? What possible reason could you have for fleeing that place and running to 4chins?

You're never going to fit in here.

>>163933763
>>163933924
I thought this game was a scam.

>>163934640
Why is reddit here? What did we do to deserve shitposting?

>>163934738
>deserve shitposting

Weak shitposting is worse than literally anything else

>>163934640
>>163934738
>>163934837
implying its reddit

4chan has and always will have plenty of shitposting from its own visters no need for reddit to even try we shit post are selfs plenty

>Match found, joining in 5
>You lost
For fuck's sake. I barely loaded in before the match was over.

>Match found, joining in 5
>Players not ready: 10
>Players not ready: 11
>10 minutes later
God damnit CIG

>>163934145

300 series rework is next in line, as soon as the Cutlass is done and that looks like it's coming along nicely.

If the 300 series turns into a good ship for a solo adventurer, you know with a decent interior and a place for a passenger to sit (even the Mustang Beta has this), I'll keep it. If it still has a shitty no frills interior, I'll trade it out for something else. I need my jumpdrive equipped combat motorhome.

That said, I wouldn't mind having a good dedicated combat ship for Operation Pitchfork, if it ever happens. The Sabre is exactly the kind of balls out dogfighter I enjoy too.

wish i had money for this game
or a job to get money for this game
or mental health for a job

wait i know i can whore myself out or start stealing lmao

>>163935895

Whoring yourself out isn't so bad. Plenty of "generou$" dudes on Craigslist that would gladly toss you a couple of twenties for access to that mouth or boipussy.

Just keep visualizing that internet spaceship.

>>163935895
SC costs as much as any other game to get into. Something like 45 - 60 dollars.

>>163935409
Everyone sitting not readying up isn't really CIG's fault. Everyone in that game is just a retard.

Not that I've ever had that happen

>>163936452
It's not CiG's fault that they aren't readying up, but it IS cig's fault for not having some kind of fast idle time out or forced ready mechanic.

>>163936264
>boipussy

everyday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEV3PWNMjLA

till you like it

Is Vederation going to be active or is it a shit?

>>163936992
why ask here, go check it out yourself.

>>163936615
There is a mechanic that starts the game after 15 seconds if most players are ready though

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>>163936992
Absolutely

>>163937132
>>163937320

I'm already in the org on RSI and Steam, just wondering if I should jump ship or not.

>>163936992
why even bother about orgs. Wait for them to become relevant and useful to join.

Considering how obnoxious missiles are even in PvE swarm modes right now, I assume BR and SB are near unplayable with the missile spam, correct?

>>163937440
Yeah, neither of those actually mean anything.

If you're important we know you by name

>>163937530
Not really.

Avoidable when you know how, and don't respawn with a full load, so spamming isn't really viable.

>>163935695
whens the mustang rework?

>>163937564

Not important, never intended to be. Tried to join the Discord and it says it's expired.

>>163939256
Maybe "important" was the wrong word, not trying to be a dick.

"active" is probably a better word. Discord is mainly for complaining about steam chat being down

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>when you're in the middle of printing another 500mil fron 17 draconis

6.1 assets and 2.9 liquid

i hope they'll give me something to spend it all on one day

>>163939689
I thought Draconis was shut down by complaining dads?

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>>163940167
>I thought Draconis was shut down by complaining dads?

Pic REEEEEEElated.

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>>163940167
i was there to watch the shitcanning of the former war as it happened minute by minute. this is a separate war that has fomented since.

better get back to it soonski; FD looked to have been able to kill off the last one in the span of an hour by forcing a ceasefire and having it evaporate shortly after.

>>163904061
Where does it recommend that in the AWS ToS?

>>163935695

>300 series rework is next in line, as soon as the Cutlass is done

This is not correct.

Cutlass rework is being handled by Josh Coons, and we have no idea what he will be working on after. 300i rework will be done by Chris Smith. He has just finished cleaning up the Hornet, and will be doing the F8 Lightning next. He talks about his schedule in this video at 28:24 and 38:15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JWnN8cpX6k?t=1702

He says that the 300i will be after the F8 but that an unannounced ship will be "in between", and he hints at a space bike. It's not at all clear if he means that this will come after the Hornet (next) or after the F8, and it's not clear when the Super Hornet will be looked at.

>>163940880
https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/comments/5k4m3o/derek_smart_on_twitterjust_wait_until_chris/dbl888f/

>>163938506
>mustang rework
what's wrong with it?

>Elite
>Can't make a corp with a shared hanger for myself and wife
>Can't trade credits
>Can't trade ships
>Can't alternate between shared fighter escort and trade ship, to do that we need four ships.
Steam winter sales tempted me into buying this garbage.

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>when your noble steed sallies forth to obtain 108 kills just right

Have there been any terror groups in elite? Like, people who get super killvettes and group up to kill everybody?

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>>163939689
>meanwhile I'm grinding trade runs in a T9 for only 1.5 million per ~10 minutes
It's weird that I can't even be bothered to do the really profitable stuff like this though. I guess I'm just too used to putting on podcasts and playing it like Euro-space truck simulator.

>>163941395
have you flown one? its a buggy mess. 90% of the time you can even get into the damn things you just clip through or into the ship once you hit the top of the ladder, it has no MDF displays so with the newest hud changes you can only see damage states. It's unlandable with one of the wings blown off.

>>163941813
Groups are strictly prohibited. Only mindless lone wolf ganking is allowed.

>>163941813
Yes, there was (is?) a group that went out of their way to kill just about everyone. They wanted to try to get players to start teaming up and actually playing the game. Instead, the players just went into private servers and complained on reddit every time they blew up, trying to get Frontier to ban them.

>>163941813
>>163941830
>>163942047
>>163941412


Man, reading stuff like this, I'm glad I passed over ED completely. Every now and then I'm tempted to try it and I'm saved from making a mistake by reading more of this bullshit.

It really sounds like the community and developers held hands in dragging it right into the ground.

Yooo what the fuck they have IMDBs for all of the CIG shitty webshows lol
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4049926/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5561564/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5538750/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5792600/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3472850/

Who done this

>>163942317
>It really sounds like

Unfortunately that's 100% what happened. It's why many of us here are so bitter. I quit for a bit and was going to come back in one of the more recent updates. Than the community fucked up the QOL changes that were going to bring me back.

>>163942376
if the ratings are good, whales. if the ratings are bad, goons. maybe Derek himself even.

>>163942476
TNGS got a 7.5, everything else is unrated so far.

>>163942141
yay, forumdads to the rescue... is there any game they haven't fucked over?

>>163942521
>Reverse the Verse
>Budget: $20,000 (estimated)
I think I found our motive

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>when the crew is around and you're all cooperating making money with great expedience

>hey Bob we need to put in some kind of requirement for this engineer
>okay how about we have the player ferry back and forth between these two systems five or so times?
>GENIUS

>>163942571
Any game that has a focus on Pvp. They've only really affected ED, luckily. Though not luckily as it's a fucking game I wanted to enjoy. I've never played a game before that I loved at first and then slowly started to irrationally hate at the end

>>163942437

This is why I'm actually glad CIG is hiding a lot of content, and why I hope they don't listen too intently to the community. Keep an ear open in case any good ideas or legitimate problems show their head, and for the most part ignore everything else.

Too much community input will destroy any game because every asshole has a different idea of what the game should be. It's pretty obvious already that some people want SC to be EVE 2, some want Second Life in space, and some of us just want the Freelancer 2 + PU that we were sold in the first place without any dadmode bullshit.

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is this the first arena shooter to implement reverse-regenerating health? I'm sure some milsim or fallout mods have done it, but not a tacticool shooter that I know of.

also, I've had one moment where I used both my health syringes and still bled out. I'm unsure how I feel about this.

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>>163941960
It's perfectly land-able even with both wings blown off you just have to get creative. Every other point you made is completely fair though.

>>163944221
>I've had one moment where I used both my health syringes and still bled out
That's pretty shitty in the moment but still kind of neat in the sense that you did all you could reasonably do but the wounds were just too great.

>>163944702
I actually just thought as I hit post that it would be cool if there was a level of damage that required outside assistance to recover from.

>>163945039
That's what S&R is supposed to be for.

>>163945039
would make combat medics viable. Sure you can plug a bleeding hole but you'll die unless the guy with the medpack in your group has time to actually fix you

>>163942732
>1 dad purchase
they even have a monthly sub just for the video stuff that is separate from the game

>>163934546
It's not because other game have cost 140m that's the actual development cost of the game. This amount is all the money that was collected, CIG then obviously planned their development with a large marging of error.
Just comparing to other development team they could complete the game at 100% even if they stopped selling jpeg today.

The income after that?
2 games at 80$ plus SQ42 expansions + the store and ingame money (would be capped). This income would largely be enough to pay all studio for a few years.
They will surely sell skins (they already do) but they don't actually need to, plus I suspect that would be less profitable than working on SQ42 40-80$ expansions and coop mode.

Just don't listen to the goon or Derek Smart, listening to them the game was bankrupt the day after the kickstarter closed because CR ran away with the money or something.

>>163945220
True, but I was thinking more the basic combat medicaid like tourniquets and combat sutures the kind of stuff done so the soldier can just cheat death and hopefully get a couple extra shots off.

"Holy shit dude your arm is way the fuck over there now you should probably let me cauterize that." as opposed to any truly competent medical assistance.

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>>163942141 >>163942571
ED and Eve Online are fine example of why should never go full PvP, even outside police zone.
When a game do it's usually the sign it was cheap and marketed PvP and player-controlled universe so they don't have to spend money for coop content and AI.

>>163942897
the hate seems fairly rational>>163942987