/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

Its really quite amazing as to how awful the first DLC for DS3 was, given they had experience with Old Hunters, the Lost Crowns, and AOTA. It came out half a year later, cost the same as AOTA, offered a copy-pasted final boss arena, shitty spells, only a handful of unique weapons, and a whooping 2 bosses (one of which can barely be called a boss).

>>163901349
so is it worth the 15 bucks at least? I still havent bought it yet?

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Aldia did nothing wrong

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>>163901426
>15 bucks
fuck no

>>163901426
I definitly enjoyed it, the bosses are great and the new weapons have some cool WA's and movesets. The arena is fun if dueling is your thing but the whole dlc area is also great for invasions. Got some nicelooking armor sets too. Havn't used all the new spells too much but they do offer some variety in casting.

>>163901349
I thought it was great. The only negative is the gravetender is an extremely mediocre boss in terms of presentation, but every other aspect of the DLC is top-tier.

They should make a new castlevania that totally rips off Dark Souls

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What part does SL play in the Undead Arena? Is it still matched as usual? Or is it scaled so that everyone comes close? In the latter case, would this mean that higher SL is a big advantage, because of things like additional equip load/HP and such? Cause it feels like everyone there is holding much more on them than I can.

Is Demon Souls playable on PS4?

>>163901939

There's a couple 2Ds that basically Castlevania Souls.

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>>163902374
no

what is the most op build i can make for ds3 when invading low level areas

Is there a souls game coming out in 2017?

So how do I take advantage of parries without riposting? Any spell casted isn't quick enough to take advantage other than flashsword

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I just got the DLC, is the arena more popular for PvP now or have things remained mostly the same?

Also is the arena behind Sully still the main place to go, or are there new venues in the DLC area?

Been gone way too long, so I'm pretty behind on the trends.

>>163902947
Only people at sullys are poorfags without the dlc

>>163901643
Except for trying to recreate the age of dragons, resulting in a number of monsterous mutated fake creatures.

>>163902732
Deep battleaxe is pretty good, loads of players have low dark resist and it requires only base stats. Or anything deep/fire/raw.

>>163902618
>been asking for an Armored Core remaster on PS3/PS4 for 10 years

It won't happen. Best that will happen is a 'portable' version for Vita/Switch.

>>163901643
He was a really boring bossfight

>>163902817
There are going to be no more souls games, just 'dark fantasy' games that might take after Dark Souls / BB /DeS.

There are no dates confirmed for another similar game, but given that they only would have started development sometime around this year, I doubt it. Early 2018 is more likely.

From tends to announce during E3, with sometimes demos at TGS.

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>>163902312
pls respond

I might just be bad but my opponents all seem really versatile.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/224400/from_software_announces_dark_souls_successor_deep_souls

>next FROM game
>but this time with Angels
>cities brimming with life
>greek/roman architecture
>underworld included
>heaven is decaying
>gods are dying
>etc etc

>inb4 boring
Well fuck you

>>163903103
Trying was the right thing to do.

>>163903236
God tier music though.

>>163903789
What were the angels supposed to be?

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>not realizing that the DS2 vs DS3 argument already happened 3 years ago with ACFA/ACVD

Dark Souls development is just the polished turd of all the shit they pulled with AC

>>163903945
>What were the angels supposed to be?
Unrelated to the new game

>>163903789
You forgot to mention that there will be a plethora of characters that lack depth or meaningful dialogue a la DS2, DS3 and BB, because Miyazaki is a great writer who doesn't rely on crutche- I mean references to other franchises.

I'm honestly pretty mad at how many bosses are immune to poison, fucking Friede is immune, how does that make sense? Poison might be slow but at this point I don't care, I want to atleast be able to poison a boss. Gravetender and Greatwolf were a lot of fun because I could poison them, but so many bosses are immune to it it isn't even funny.

>>163904168
Who cares, poison does no damage in DS3 anyways

>>163904130
>You forgot to mention that there will be a plethora of characters that lack depth or meaningful dialogue a la DS2, DS3 and BB,
No souls character had dept or meaningful dialogue, including in DeS and DS1.

>>163904247
>>163904130

No From Soft character has depth or meaningful dialogue, including all the King's Field, Echo Night, Armored Core, Dark Souls and their side series.

Metal Wolf Chaos has probably the most in-depth dialogue of any From Soft game.
>BELIEVE IN YOUR OWN JUSTICE

well, finished ds3
seemed kinda shit
pvp is especially shit
back to invading anor londo on ds1

How the fuck do you use the Way of The Blue item you get from that old bitch across the way from Vordt's bossfight in DS3? I can't find shit about this and its starting to piss me off. How the hell am I supposed to do anything with this covenant? I select it in my inventory, and my only options are to leave or discard it. Use is greyed out. I can't find anything on google so I'm extremely fucking confused. Do I have to get further in the game to use this covenant or what? I'm online, I have xbox gold. Why can't I use this item at all? It doesn't appear under equipment anywhere so I can't do that either.

>>163904398
it does appear in equipment
far right box

>>163904470
I'll boot the game up right now and look because I didn't see it under equipment after searching three times.

>>163904547
go to the page where you equip shit
and then go to the far right box that has a bunch of decoration around it
you can equip covenants there

>>163904470
Its not under equipment. Its under "Inventory" and that's it. What the fuck am I supposed to do with this stupid item? What slot does it equip to? I've checked items, weapons, armour. Its not under any. What am I supposed to do with it?

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How do I dex build?

>>163905067
which gaem

>>163905067
40 dex and at best 18 str for washing pole/farron greatsword/black blade/better shield. Use sharp infusion when onehanding a lot, refined might be better when twohanding a lot.

Do I have to buy all four of Siegward's armor pieces (and spear/shield?) or just the Catarina Armor to get him out of the well?

>>163905479
Just the armor, no shield or spear.

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>>163904849

>>163904247
Oh please, DeS and DS1 had characters that gave more insight into where they were from, why they were present in the setting, or information on the current setting and lore. Stockpile Thomas, Urbain, Yuria the Witch, Laurentius, Sieglinde, Andre, and Domhnall all either have their own motivations for being in the story and contribute to the lore of the setting. Meanwhile in DS2, DS3, and BB, characters have such little dialogue about the setting and their own motivations that it honestly looks like the writers (and especially Miyazaki) just straight up stopped giving a fuck in order to shit out two cash grabs (DS2 and DS3) and a third that created an interesting setting without characters that properly interacted with that world save for a guy behind a window, and another chick who barely has any dialogue for you throughout her story line.

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is there nothing wrong with my Griffith?

I'm playing DS2, not SoFS. I still haven't opened the shrine of winter, or whatever it's called.

What are great weapons, which I can access, for each a dex build, a strength build, and a quality build?
How do I go about farming titanite if mobs eventually stop respawning?
How are hex, miracle, pyromancy, and sorcery builds? Is casting as broken as it was in DS1?

Playing Dark Souls 3 right now and what the fuck is up with the bosses. They just don't let up when attacking and I have to spam dodge to avoid all damage for like 5 times in a row. It's almost impossible to fight a boss cleanly. I always start tanking hits to dish out lots of damage on them in opportune times.

>>163904387
>Ds3 is shit
>Goes back to the unbalanced mess known as ds1
You won't be missed, shitter. And take your shit opinions with you.

>>163906253
bloodborne lol

>>163906253
That's literally all of them.

Hard game.

>>163906087
Not bad, I'd cut his tongue off and remove every bit of muscle from his body.

>>163905357
3


>>163905437
What about the Estoc? This is for PvE.

And what about endurance?

>>163906364
well both are shit
i just like making people rage in anor londo
you would not believe the amount of hatemail a level 53 with pursuers, dark bead, and crystal soul spear gets

>>163906253
Probably only half of them are really like that. I love it though, maybe it's a shitty way to do it, but it definitely makes them more challenging compared to nearly all the encounters in DaS1/DaS2

>>163905760
>Oh please, DeS and DS1 had characters that gave more insight into where they were from, why they were present in the setting, or information on the current setting and lore.
They did the absolute bare necessity that a tertiary character in an actual story based game would. Dark Souls is not about character development. They're all shallow one note gimmicks. It's like you've never played anything that wasn't a From game, much less read a book.

>>163906501
The sellsword twinblades can carry you through the entire game if you pump dex enough and infuse them with sharp
it is fucking awesome

>>163906157
There is no reason to play DS2 instead of SoFS. Switch.

>>163906253
>and I have to spam dodge
welcome to DS3 do u rike it?

>>163906501
You should be leveling pretty much just dex, vig, and end for a dex build. vig and dex more than endurance

>>163906642
No. I'm playing DS2 first, then once I'm familiar with things I'll switch to SoFS so I'll be able to notice and appreciate the changes made to the game. I want to milk this for as long as possible.

1) Siegmeyer
2) Gough
3) Lautrec
4) Biorr
5) Sun Memer
6) Vengarl
7) Straid
8) Andre
9) Maiden in Black
10) Stockpile Thomas

>>163906501
Estoc is great with sharp infusion. A lot of people have endurance at 20 when using normal sized weapons. I'd go up to 20 and see if you need more from there.

>>163906865
uh

>>163906865
Straid is a meme, Lucatiel is a better DaS 2 NPC.

>>163906157
Dex: Rapier, Partizan, Alonne Greatbow, Warped Sword, Murakumo, any Katana, Pate's Spear

Str: Mace, Estoc, Claymore, Mastodon Greatsword, Battle Axe, Red Rust Sword, Great Club, Large Club, Longsword, Red Iron Twinblade, Greatsword, Zweihander, Lost Sinner's Sword, Pursuer's Ultra Greatsword, Grand Lance, Red Rust Scimitar

Quality: Mirrah Greatsword, Drangleic Sword, Sun Sword

There are almost no true quality weapons in DS2. Most weapons with both Str and Dex scaling only gain ~20-30 AR from max Dex scaling, making them effectively Str weapons.

Unless your weapon is poison, or has a A or higher scaling in Dex, it's better just stop putting points into Dex and buff+infuse instead, putting points into INT/FTH instead of Dex.

>>163906865
you forgot wellager, laurentius, and any of the patches

>>163906552
I'm not saying that these characters are on the same level as a character from a Dostoevsky novel you mong, I'm saying that within the series itself (and by extension Bloodborne) character backstories, arcs, and motivations took a massive nosedive in quality as the series progressed.

>Dark Souls is not about character development

Then why even bother including the characters I mentioned before in DeS and DS1? What's the point in giving them dialogue and backstories? Did you just go through the games and sum up the entire cast based on the fact that a few characters like Lautrec laugh menacingly and go "hurr it's so obvious that he's a villain, this game's writing sucks durr" because you're a contrarian douchenozzle?

>>163907059
>>163906157
Basically, the only way to do a Dex build in DS2 is to make it focused around poison, otherwise it's always to just meet the dex requirement and then dump all your stats into Fth/Int for infusion instead.

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>Never find anyone, anywhere.
>Never get summoned as a blue
>Any invasion
>Host has as many summons as he can
>Blue comes in instantly
I just can't win.

>>163907226
I'm saying that there was no change in quality of character writing and you're blinded by nostalgia.

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Did anyone have an image like this, but for DS3??
Somebody posted a time ago and now that i gonna make a female character i cant find it

>>163907226
Dark souls has characters.

Dark souls is not -about- character development.

The characters are there to guide the player, provide quests, and explain the world, nothing more.

If Dark Souls had in-depth characters with cinematic scenes and well-written arcs, it wouldn't really add much to the game. It would just take away from the personal growth / player experience.

This isn't Skyrim/Fallout. You're not playing to immerse yourself in 'muh lore', you're playing to fight monsters.

Worst bosses:
1) Nashandra
2) Bed of Chaos
3) Royal Rat Authority
4) One Reborn
5) Vendrick
6) Wolnir
7) Leechmonger
8) Ancient Dragon
9) Curse Rotted Greatwood
10) Prowling Magus

>>163907202
I considered Laurentius, he's on par with Andre or Thomas. Why do you like Wellager?

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I'm going to tell Dancer that she doesn't have to be Sullyvahn's slave anymore and that we can run away together!

>>163907494
she is like 80 feet tall man

>>163907438
Skyrim and the recent Fallout games (except new vegas) don't have any more intereting worlds or characters than Dark Souls. They're just even more bland one note content. Dark Souls uses it's extremely minimal characters well enough to at least get some emotional reaction I suppose, so maybe it's a bit ahead even.

>>163907439
look up his dialogue lines
he does the whole undead forgetfulness thing better than lucatiel, and gives a good bit of lore

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>>163907439
>people still are upset over Bed of Chaos in 2016

>>163907439
>Nashandra at the top of this list
>beating fucking Bed of Chaos even
>Pinwheel not even on it.
Anon what are you on

>>163907529
Well good thing I have that size fetish.

>>163906865

1: Siegmeyer
2: Siegward
3: Sieglinde
4: Siegbrau

Get fucked, beanpoles.

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>>163907529
I love her anyway!

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>>163907494
>I think she's the ugliest souls girl design

>Lucatiel and Irina have the same VA
That really cogitates my cranium

>>163904027
i'd say it's more ds2 vs bb, the arguments are almost 1 to 1

>>163907843
Not From's fault you can't see.

>>163907895
Yeah, DS3 is just bloodborne's aborted child so some of the arguments transfer over.

From Soft has a habit of trying to do new things with each new iteration, including throwing away some of the new things from the previous iteration that were good.

ACV and VD even have the same "bland release but good DLC" relationship that DS2 and SOTFS have. ACV is one of the only games not worth getting in the franchise because ACVD improved it so much, just like how SOTFS improved over DS2.

infusions or resin buffs for dark souls 2?

>>163908109
You can apply buffs on top of infusions in dark souls 2

>>163908383
BEST GAME
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>>163907843

>>163907494
dont forget your bowl of eggs

>>163908109
It depends on stats but usually infusions if you have any decent amount of mage stats. Plus you can spellbuff infused weapons so you get a double bonus

>>163908434
She lays them for me!

I've made it to Gwyn for the first time.

Any good tips before I fight him?

>>163908542
wear red tearstone ring and wasp ring and parry

>>163908109
If your normal AR is over 190, infusions are better base damage than resins against most enemies

If your normal AR is over 325, infusions are better base damage than resins against enemies with resistance to that element

If you use a spell buff (sunlight blade, CMB etc.) infusions are always better than resins except against bosses with really high resistance to that element (DLC bosses, basically)

Adjust those numbers up if the Dex scaling is A or S, or the strength scaling is over B, A, or S. if the scaling is lower than those letters, then infusion will get you more AR for each point in INT/FTH than it will in uninfused points into Str/Dex.

>>163908542
Don't parry him. Fight him like a man.

>Invading anor londo ds1 with dark bead, pursuers and crystal soul spear at sl 50
>invade guy dressed as silver knight
>as he bows to me one shot him with dark bead
>you were indicted
never gets old

>>163906087
the top of the neck, but that's fucked up for all characters because the last time a from employee saw a human being was before the the staff got completely rearranged. silve knight set with lothric knight/firewitch helm?

>>163908109
>>163908423
You can't apply resins on top of infusions though, usually. He's asking Normal + Resin vs Infused + No Resin, so I imagine he expects to not be getting SLB or GMB.

The biggest benefit of infusions is that they overwrite shitty scaling. Dex weapons can actually compete with Str weapons if you infuse them and then put stats into fth/int. Same with poison infusion. You should almost never use an uninfused dex weapon in DS2.

Also, later game infusion helps less because you don't get as high benefit from RoB Flynn or Sacred Oath.

Strength is a bit more tricky since you usually sacrifice more scaling (50-100 AR) to infuse, so infusing a strength weapon usually means your gains for more stat investment are actually worse, unlike dex.

>>163908664
congratulations, you know how to troll shitters in a dead game

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Would you summon this handsome man?

>>163909040
no, because he's trapped in a shit game

>>163909040
>claymore instead of mirrah's greatsword

For shame

>>163908663
This

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>>163909040
you look like me but with bad graphics

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>>163909123
>>163909197
where the fuck are (You)s

>>163909390
your IP must have changed

>>163907378
Ok then, let me give you an example of how characters have been gutted over the course of the series. Lets compare Yuria the Witch, Qualana and Karla as they all fulfill the same general role across the games.

In DeS, Yuria is a heretic, imprisoned by Miralda and tortured by the fat officials. Her dialogue states that she's forsaken her original goal of using demon's souls for her own gain and finds the use of her witchcraft to be intrinsically evil. Nice and tight story, her arc is basically over upon her arrival to the nexus, but she informs you about the state of Boletaria and her past. Her proximity to the corpse of Thomas' daughter also gives some insight into Thomas' story as well.

In DS1, Quelana is also a magic tutor. She tells you about the fate of the Witch of Izalith and why she fled to Lordran. It's also implied that she may be manipulating you based on Undead Rapport's item description. Either way, we gleam some interesting lore on why Quelaag, Quelaag's sister, and the Bed of Chaos are the way they are.

Finally, we get to Karla. She's imprisoned in Irithyll Dungeon for being a heretic, a predicament copied from Yuria in DeS. She refers to herself as a child of the abyss, but what the fuck does that even mean? Is she somehow connected to Manus, or to Zullie? Who fucking knows because that bit of her backstory is never touched on in any of her dialogue. In addition, her dialogue regarding the different tomes you give her is so barebones that you wonder why they even gave Jenny Funnel extra lines to record.

So please, don't try to tell me that Karla is on the same level as Yuria and Quelana, and don't try to convince anybody else that the writing across the series has been uniform, when it obviously hasn't.

>>163909040
Santa?

>>163909486
battle santa

>>163909428
>fandumb speculation is great and a legit substitute for actual character writing except outside the games I have nostalgia goggles for
Fromdrones are real

>>163909390
i don't know, im only getting this dotted underline instead of a normal one

>>163909560

If he's criticizing later from games, how is he a fromdrone?

You are a fucking idiot.

>>163901349
The Old Hunters was 2 dlcs in one you moron.
AoA was overpriced but the content itself aside from the Gravetendies boss was very good.

>>163909560
What part of
>characters have been gutted over the course of the series
are you failing to understand?

And how exactly does criticizing Fromsoft and Miyazaki's writing in DS2, DS3, and BB make me a Fromdrone? Shouldn't I be eating their shit up instead?

>From will never make another Lost Kingdoms
Fuck.

>>163909772
>>163909793
little did he know he himself was a fromdrone

>>163909772
Only a Fromdrone could ever think their games had good characters in the first place.

>>163909793
>What part of
>>characters have been gutted over the course of the series
>are you failing to understand?
I guess the part that confuses me is how they're all really shallow one note archetypes barely fleshed out with a smattering of dialogue in every game, but sorry for interfering with the DARK SOULS IS DEEP WITH MINIMALIST STORYTELLING meme.

>>163909428
To be fair, a lot of this comes down to Bamco's translation jobs, not From's lore.

>>163909912
Also based Fextralife wiki and Vaati

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>>163909969
too bad wikidot had a drunk freshman make their DaS3 layout

>>163910062
Claymore has the deepest lore

>>163902817
>>163903491

There are not going to be more 'souls' games in similar vein that Bloodborne wasn't a Souls game.

>>163902374
I think it might be available but only through PSNow which is a ripoff deal in my opinion. I think DeS is really overrated but if they rereleased on the PS4 as a boxed copy I'd definitely buy it. It's unlikely to happen because the publishing rights are a mess.

Is there a way to lock the framerate in Scholar of the First Sin like there is in Dark Souls? I used a simple "mod" to make Dark Souls run at a consistent 30 fps but can't find a similar method for SoFS

>>163909912
>>163909897
>>163909845
>>163909793
>>163909772
>>163909560
>>163909428

How From writers work:

>Miyazaki: "Hey, I saw this cool thing in a comic/movie/book include it in the game somehow"
>Developers: "okay, we'll uh, add some NPC like that, what do you want the character to say?"
>Miyazaki: "I don't know, ask the writers."
>Writers: "Just say some shit about the dark and the fire and shit, maybe give them a daddy issue or something"
>Miyazaki: "Sounds good lol"
>Bamco butchers the translations until no one outside of Japan knows what it means
>DS fans freak out and talk about how deep the game is

Miyazaki's idea of lore is coming up with vague in-universe explanations for including his fanservice and references to berserk and shit. It's not that complicated, never was, never will be. Just enjoy what it is.

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>>163909969
>kekstralife

>>163909897
Look, I get that you're baiting me, but please, stop implying that I'm one of those guys that insists that
>DARK SOULS IS DEEP WITH MINIMALIST STORYTELLING
which is something that I have not insisted on at all. I have been repeatedly stating that DeS and DS1 were better on expanding the story and setting through the various NPCs in each game when compared to DS2, DS3, and BB which barely have a handful of good characters with interesting backstories, backgrounds, and motivations between all three games. I am saying that Miyazaki and the other writers that worked on those three games got lazy over the course of the series and have stopped giving a fuck about using characters to add to the story of the various games they are a part of.

>>163910213
why would you

Will i get banned if i use DaS2 save editor to lower my sl (adjusting stats, obviously)? My only character is 200 and i want to play some arena.

>>163910398
Yes, that's like the only super duper guaranteed way to get banned

>>163910213
SOTFS is 60fps, and no, not unless you want to get softbanned. If your graphics card doesn't have a feature /profile to lock a game to 30FPS, then any third party software / mods to SOTFS probably isn't going to work without activating a softban.

If you can run DS1 at a consistent 30FPS then you should have no problem running SOTFS above 30 fps for the whole game.

>>163909969
>>163910062
Honestly at least with ds3 wikidot couldn't figure out the damage of any weapon for like 6 months after the game came out. I really tried to use it instead of fextra but anything other than uninfused +0 weapons were a fucking mystery to them so I ended up at fextra every time.

>>163903491
Anyone feeling conflicted between hoping it's a Sony exclusive for the Sony money dumped into it and the chance of Japan Studio being involved again and wishing that it's a multiplat so as much people as possible could enjoy it and we could discuss it in /dsg/ / have fcs?

>inb4 it's a Ninty exclusive and everyone in /dsg/ is btfo'd.

>>163910398
Yeah, DS2 is pretty good about catching stuff like that based on what I remember from 2015.

>>163910461
well fuck
guess i'll have to actually play the game

>>163910258
Don't forget how the fextralife page for Gwyndolin refers to him with "she" and "her".

>went into ds3 dlc super early
>got a follower javelin
>heavy infuse, reinforce to +4
>hilariously high damage, kill an invader with a chuck when they rolled off to heal
>easily my new favorite spear
shame it doesnt use the partizan moveset like the actual enemies do, then it'd be 10/10

>>163909290
Even for a game this generation, DS3 looks like trash

>>163910258
>Drops
>Pursuer 100%
my fucking sides

>>163910524
You can really just speedrun with the mace in about 4 hours and then farm the giant lord to get whereever you were planning on. Ds2 is the most sprint-thru-able game in the series. You can go down most of the paths only fighting bosses until you're back at majula

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>>163910536
I think trannies are just mentally ill but I think that referring to Gwyndolin as a female makes some sense within the context of the game as he was raised as a daughter and has boobs. Still, I would personally write down Gwyndolin as a 'he'.

>>163910503
I wouldn't mind if Sony published another From game. It's clear that From is an incompetent developer and that they desperately need Sony's money and technical expertise to make a really mechanically sounds and graphically pretty game. I bet Sony also doesn't breathe down their dev's necks regarding dev cycles like Bamco does.

>>163910234
At least the voice work is good. And the butchered translations actually help.

>>163910398
Yes.

If you want to do arena, go start a new character and use agape ring to beat the game and collect all the weapons you want at ~3m SM. Then farm a bunch of upgrade equipments by burning bonfire ascetics at dragon aerie.

Back up your save once you have everything you want, so every time you want a new PvP build you just load the back up, upgrade your equipment, then pop a soul vessel and set your stats.

To optimize your build just make sure you don't buy upgrade items / equipment and instead rely on drops or chests with bonfire ascetics to get multiple copies.

>>163910259
They were always lazy, just the novelty wore off on you without removing the rose tinted glasses. See: >>163910234

I'm not bothering to argue in detail since the huge double standard you're applying between games being invisible to you shows there's no point.

>>163909040

>not wearing Black Leather set or similar
>not two-handing a normal straight sword with Heide Knight Sword on your back and a crossbow

6/10, would only hesitantly survive Trial of the Grasses with.

>>163910664
>Gwyndolin has boobs
Was Gwyndolin forcefed hormones? What if Gwyndolin never wanted to be a woman, but Gwyn and Gwynevere decided he should be because muh moon affinity? Do we really know that isn't the case?

>>163910503
>>163910665

>Armored Core on PS4, given proper budget and polish on the level that souls games got, with PSVR support

>Armored Core on PC, with excellent graphics and an actually active multiplayer and mods

life is hard

>>163910753
This the second game so Geralt wouldn't have a beard yet faggot

>>163910664
>not knowing the difference between sex and gender

get your memes out of here

>>163910906
There wasn't one until humanities' majors needed an new way to pretend to be relevant.

>invade someone
>kill both his phantoms
>Disconnected from master of world
fuckin pussy

>>163910823
>hormones

in a universe with magic and no medical science, I prefer to imagine that Gwyn and Gwynevere forced some magic on him/her.

The "he" vs "she" argument is dumb because we have no idea what Gwyndolin would prefer to be called, so it's moot to try and apply labels.

Gwyndolin was born a boy and grew up to have a female's body type, being treated as a female by their peers, but that's all we know. We have no idea if magic ACTUALLY changed Gwyndolins gender a la the gender change coffins in DS2, or if they just have a very androgynous/feminine body.

>>163910972
Shut up and talk about dark souls /pol/. No one cares what you think about liberals

>>163911091
>tfw he fed himself to Aldrich because he couldn't stand living as a woman anymore
Botched circumcisions followed by sexual reassignment always end badly.

>>163910746
Please give me an example of how a DS3 or BB character has the same level (or lack their of) of backstory and dialogue. Oh wait, you can't which is why you've already retreated into the age-old 4chan discourse tactic of "I have no evidence to back up my statements so I'll just say that there's no point in arguing about it because I'm always right". Look, I've already given the Karla/Yuria/Quelana example to reinforce my opinion so at least humor me here.

Is armor more useful in DS3 than the previous DS games where it provided very little protection? (i just got DS3 so i don't know)

>>163911240
>Look, I've already given the Karla/Yuria/Quelana example to reinforce my opinion so at least humor me here.
That's the big duble standard. You're pulling out dumb fan speculation like "MAYBE QUELANA IS MIND CONTROLLING YOU" and the most minimal of backstory as evidence of how deep she is and ignoring all the slightly less implausible dumb fan speculation about Karla being Alva and Zullie's child just so your favorite games can seem to have better writing. It's a huge stretch.

>>163909040

......time for Witcher FC?

>>163911304
It's so useless in DS3 it's practically purely cosmetic. It's the least useful it's ever been.

>>163911320
>No Zullie set in DS3 so can't make a Yennefer cosplay
fug

>>163910738
I thought arena prioritises SL over SM?

>>163911363
thanks, its too bad i already picked knight but whatever, i just won't put any points into vitality

>>163910753
>>163910894
how does it look like witcher

>>163910972
>humanities

You mean biology, psychology, and sociology, which aren't humanities, they're hard data sciences about biology and mental / social identity. The Humanities are about culture, religion, history, language, etc.

If you're going to be an idiot about something you don't know anything about, at least point the finger at the right people

>sex = what your junk looks like
>gender = what society treats you as
>chromosomes = what your DNA is
>identity = what you want society to treat you as

All of these can conflict. If someone has XY chromosomes but a DHT deficiency they will have female genitals but no womb, but otherwise have masculine characteristics. They can be raised as a female or as a male, and they can choose to be seen as eithr one later on in life. What pronoun would do you call them?

Answer: Whatever pronoun they want you to call them. Just like when someone gets your name wrong and you have to correct them. Unless you enjoy being called the wrong name, in which case I will now refer to you as "shithead" from here on.

>yeah but that's rare and only an exception
1 out of 1000 people are intersex (300,000 in US)
1 out of 166 people are trans (1.9 million)
If trans was a "mental disorder" then it would be an epidemic more common than OCD.

Keep your shitty opinions to yourself and go back to talking about dark souls

>>163911498

>not leveling vit at all

Enjoy your gay dex weapons.

Also, the flat defense gains from Vit are actually pretty useful, especially for the first half of the game or so.

>>163911642
Psychology and sociology are absolutely humanities and what you're discussing is in their purview. Sociology in particular is barely even a science, much less 'hard data science"

>>163911491
Arena is SL, yes.

>>163911634

I mean, he's a little fat, but how do you not see it? It's probably about as close as you could get in 2.

>(You)'s have been removed from 4chan
What happens to our beloved God-King Lucifer now?

>>163911642
Did I fall for copy pasta? This reads like an outrageous tumblr copypasta for shits and giggles.

>>163911642
Kys tranny, bet you play as a girl in dark souls.

>>163911697
If you publish anything in sociology or pscyhology without massive amounts of data, you're going to get fired or fail your class. "social sciences are just made up" is just a meme.

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>>163911760
He's still filtered like he was before. I'm also still seeing (you)s though so no idea.

>>163911789
>not varying your character genders to break up monotony
fag

>>163911807
>massive amounts of data
10,000 tons of shit is still shit. Sorry about your worthless degree.

>complaining about fextralife and wikidot
i-if you anons want, i can make a new website
i might need some help porting all the information over though

>>163911769
>delivering facts is now copypasta

maybe it should be copypasta, since it's right. Sex and gender are totally separate things, being trans doesn't have to be a mental disorder

>>163911305
>"MAYBE QUELANA IS MIND CONTROLLING YOU"

I'll give you that as a bit of speculation, but again, Quelana gives you vital information on why the BoC, Quelaag, and Quelaag's sister are in the game and why they've been transformed into chaos demons. That's not minimal, that adds on to the story and setting as a whole in a way that is not explicitly stated elsewhere.

>evidence of how deep she is
Again, I have never implied that Souls characters are inherently deep, just that they were written better and had better dialogue in earlier games.

>ignoring all the slightly less implausible dumb fan speculation about Karla being Alva and Zullie's child just so your favorite games can seem to have better writing

Nigga, I specifically mentioned that its implied that she might be related to Zullie. The problem is that there is only one item description that refers to Karla being related to Zullie (Dark Edge) and that her hat look's like a raggedy version of Zullie's. Does Karla ever talk about her past the way Quelaana and Yuria do? Nah, she just says she's been imprisoned for heresy. She doesn't talk about her family, doesn't talk about where she's from, and she doesn't even give you any lore information when you turn in a spell tome to her other than she doesn't like teaching dark miracles. And what's this about her being a child of the abyss? Shit, it would be great if there was an item description or a bit of dialogue relating to that bit of info, but again, there is nothing there.

>>163911807
The only way to fail a sociology class is to not turn anything in. Hard to get lower than a C if you're remotely literate. Yeah, you need to cite some "references" for your oh so hard APA format totally scientific papers but come on.

>>163911897
Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder that causes great suffering in the victim. This is still the consensus in psychology. It's not a fucking fashion statement, it's very difficult to treat neurological disease. So difficult in fact that it's sometimes easier to treat by simply trying to surgically alter the body to match the patient's perceived gender, a truly radical and dangerous course of action. Not calling it a disorder is hugely disingenuous. Next you'll be telling me bipolar disorder is a lifestyle choice.

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>>163911091
>we have no idea what Gwyndolin would prefer to be called

>>163911847
psychologists, financial analysts, researchers, data analysts, political scientists, don't get paid anything, their degrees are useless.

>starting salaries, $50 to $150k a year
>good econ/poli sci majors make >$200k a year after graduation

...oh wait

What degree did you get in college? A doctorate in grocery bagging?

>>163911789
>Not choosing whichever character has the least annoying grunting noises.

The fucking female death noise in 1 and 2 is so annoying. And in 3 the male moans like its a porno

>>163912047
Th rest of the humanities hate economists for a reason.

None of the polisci majors I know have a job at all related to their field. The most successful one works with computers.

>Sorceror robe hood is on with various helmets
i like it

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>>163901643

>>163912009
>>163912083

this is a bit of a dumb argument, because your job doesn't have to match your major or your degree.

You can get a sociology degree just because you like it, and then go work in management or get a master's in something else.

You can get an engineering degree and work as a waiter your whole life

Degrees aren't about being smart it's just a piece of paper that says "You passed the test". Jobless sociology majors are not the same as actual social scientists doing research for government, companies and not for profit organizations.

>>163912047
You know most psych majors are never actually going to be psychologists right?

>>163912047
are you fucking nuts, haha
>starting salaries, $50 to $150k a year
yeah, maybe if you take the median and max of the entire distribution of graduates
>good econ/poli sci majors make >$200k a year after graduation
"after graduation" is a crazy long time, i'm sure a few do make that much after a while. but anytime soon? yeah, right

look, you can study whatever the hell you want, but don't kid yourself if you end up making a bad decision when it comes to the job hunt

>>163912172
A lot of physics PhDs get offered jobs by hedge funds because Econ/business majors are too expensive and the math is basically the same.

>>163912172
>school isn't about like, knowledge or MONEY maaaan
every single time

>>163912193
>>163912204
>>163912047

See:
>>163912172

One person is arguing about scientists, the other is arguing about majors. They're not the same.

>>163912134
Too bad all the head pieces that work like that with the Sorcerer Robe clash terribly with it.

Well, I guess the old sage blindfold doesn't look that bad with it.

>>163912169
THE THRONE WILL CERTAINLY RECEIVE YOU

>but what is the the throne

FIRE DARK LOST DESTINY DARK CHOICE ILLUSION

>wut

and then Vaati makes a youtube video

>>163912292
That is the one im using
Got the blind samurai look going
is gud

>>163912282
>One person is arguing about scientists, the other is arguing about majors. They're not the same.
So we agree the degrees are basically worthless?

>>163912295
>memezaki writes his dialog by spinning a wheel of buzzwords like "dark, fire, king, soul, lost, destiny"

I wonder how much Vaati actually influenced the way people think about dark souls lore by making up his own headcannons

>>163912371
>by making up his own headcannons

>implying he doesn't have a bunch of gullible redditors to make those stories for him

>>163912371
Miyazaki has nothing to do with DS2's writing.
In fact, his style is absolutely different.

Well Sirris hates me, should I kill her now or will she come after me later?

>>163912351
The degrees are worthless if you're too dumb / lack the discipline to turn them into jobs.

If you can put the work in to find the right people and companies and put together a solid work history and portfolio, then the degrees are useful.

The knowledge you learn from those classes can be useful, but you don't need a degree to learn about it.

The stereotype comes from the fact that dumb people looking for "easy" degrees tend to flock toward classes with less time investment (fewer problem sets or tests, more essays).

So sociology just gets a lot of shitty people who don't know how to find jobs. It's not that sociology is useless, it's that the courses attract people who don't know how to make it useful.

My school's econ, sociology, and psychology courses were harder than the biology or physics classes, so I didn't see that. If you didn't know how to use R, matlab and aggregate massive amounts of government data, you would fail your classes. We had very few "tumblr" sociologists who were just there to find the meaning of life or some bullshit, everyone there was trying to get a hard science job in research.

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How much fun is Pyromancy? How about Sorceries, or Miracles? I've played DS3 a few times through now, but I almost always find myself just going with a weapon over any sort of magic.

I kind of want to try a pyromancer, is it much better for combat casting? Miracles and sorceries are so slow it feels like you need to open with them.

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get the perverted sperg that writes Kill Six Billion Demons to actually flesh out the backstory for the next souls like and all our dreams will come true

>>163912486
The only difference between the writing of DS2 and the other Souls game is it doesn't have the exact same theme the others have

>>163912551
Just use the farron flashsword
fun as fuck

>>163912235
School's about knowledge.

Degrees are about money. No reason to pay lots of money to get a degree unless you've got something to prove to a potential employer.

>>163912550
>sociologists trying to use matlab
I would pay to see this

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>>163912621

Yeah, that one is cool as fuck. But I don't know if that one ability which is essentially a sword slash is enough to go sorceries over pyromancies, which has a billion fireball spells of varying magnitude.

It's fun to chuck a massive ball of magma at people.

>>163912351
Not any of the guys you've been replying to, but I wouldn't say that degrees are worthless considering that most employers won't even look at prospective hires unless they have some kind of degree. And don't forget that the main reason that all those unskilled jobs that high school grads could get a few decades ago were shipped to other countries due to a combination of increased tax rates, union's demanding too much from employers, and American's (and I assume most first world citizens) just generally being unwilling (and unable) to work for less than $5 dollars a day. Add on automation and the shift to service industries and you have an environment where having at least a bachelor's degree is a necessity.

T. some fag with a Bachelor's in history who works as a history teacher. Take that as you will.

>>163912539
pls respond

>>163912615
>>163912486
Execution wise, they're about the same. Item descriptions, NPC dialoge, DS2 might be a bit more heavy on expositional dialogue (especialy SOTFS) but DS1 is more heavy re-occuring words/themes.

But they are very different in terms of content. DS2 takes more after King's Field, with more of a royal / barren / threatened wasteland and you show up hundreds of years after all the major events took place. Whereas DS1/2 is more like Berzerk with this whole Dark vs Light conflict and decrepit monsters everywhere, and you're in the middle of a transitional period.

>>163912615
Miyazaki never pours the same amount of pretentious bullshit in a single dialogue line as Vendrick or Aldia. DS2 lacks his common subtlety. It could as well be a completely different game not related to souls franchise at all, just call it king's souls or something.

>>163912675
You've met the wrong sociologists then.

>>163912710
With other degrees you get the benefit of a degree and also knowing how to do something that might later get you a career path outside of academia.

With the others you just have academia, barrista, or something totally outside your field.

>>163912735

I have to admit, the feeling of everything being wasted and long since abandoned was pretty nice in DS2, as were all the references. It was fun to go through the game and find all the things that made me think of DS1.

Plus some of the DLC were fucking awesome.

>>163912765
>Miyazaki
>Subtle
Being laconic isn't the same as being subtle.

>>163912807
What kind of simulations are you running at the sociology plant? Gone full Asimov yet?

>>163912551
pyromancers are overall the funniest caster class
sorcerers are really cool if you go full sword sorcerer with mlgs, flashsword and soul greatsword
miracles are kinda boring and mostly suited for support

>>163911876
It would be much more helpful to just go and help wikidot with finishing the unfinished pages.

>>163912898
I can usually hit someone with gnaw on my bleed build while they're chugging but yeah miracles are not something to build around.

>>163913002
but then i don't get ad money

Should I finish Leonhards quest or kill him cause his GOAT armor?

>>163912710
I agree with the spirit of this post, but just want to clear a few things up:

Most unskilled jobs were shipped overseas because standard of living in the US rose faster than in other countries, and new technology (especially in computers/logistics/supply chain management) let businesses jump that gap easier. It's not just that americans are unwilling to work for $5/day but that they *can't* survive on that because of our standard of living. Automation just closes the gap.

Corporate taxes have actually dropped a lot in the last few decades, not risen. The nominal tax rate (39%) is the same but that doesn't tell the whole picture because it doesn't include write-offs, incentives, and debt. The effective rate (from S&P 500 companies, smaller ones get fewer incentives so this is higher) has dropped from ~35% to 26% since 1985. So yeah, higher taxes aren't the real reason for outsourcing.

And lastly, overall prices are a lot lower because of outsourcing. If we added tariffs, US companies would start hiring more people in the US, but the prices of everything would jump 10-20%. This means most people would actually come out worse than if they had just learned a new trade (one that other countries can't do as well, or lacks automation technology so far) or gone back to school.

It's not an easy solution, but the belief that we have raised corporate taxes and that's why jobs are being outsourced is not present in data, and is largely a political stance, not a financial one.

T. some fag with a Bachelor's in Economics/ (minor) Polisci and MBA, who works as a corporate financial consultant. Take that as you will.

>>163913207
definitely a humanity's major here, and not an economist.

Kindly shut up up and post about Dark Souls since you might actually know something about that subject

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Sadness

Will you faggots with your 2 year degrees and wikipedia knowledge shut up about the shit you just know barely enough about to be dangerous and talk about Dark Souls jesus christ. This is /dsg/ (dark souls general) not /eimg/ (ego inflated millenials general)

What's the drop rate for the Dark Sword?

>>163913252
Just go look up the data yourself, I agree that getting financial information off 4chan is a pretty bad idea no matter what.

>>163913360
Pretty average. I can just drop one for you if you've got two minutes and are on PC

>>163913360
It's an interesting question, but with the trade deficit being what it is I'm not sure it's the RIGHT question. Nor does it sufficiently take into account the irrational but nonetheless materially important conemperorary mores vis a vis the cultural hegemony of Irithyll.

>>163913392
It's an oversimplistic picture. Granted, politicians on every side deal with oversimplistic pictures because they're the only way to communicate with the general public so I see where you're coming from.

But we should shut up.

>>163913360
In DS3? Pretty good actually.

>>163913312
How good is Zwei in DS3? Does it still have the awesome DS2 moveset?

Zwei was pretty good in DS2 because it's 2H R1 combo had 360 degree tracking and wide sweeping attacks, unlike every other UGS in the game.

This thread is full of artificial emotions

>>163913448
Yeah, my whole point was just mentioning that effective tax rates have lowered, not risen, so pointing to higher US tax rates as the cause of automation just isn't supported by reality, nothing more. Leave the political conclusions up to the pundits

>>163913489
This post is full of artificial words.

>>163913456
Zwei is pretty weak in DS3, if you want a good ugs, use profaned ugs which is a strictly better version of it.
Though i prefer vertical ugs in DS3 because unlike DS2 they have an incredible tracking and really strong HA.

>>163909714
(You)'s are gone, faggot.

>>163913493
will you american faggots shut the fuck up honestly

>>163913504
This series is full of artificial difficulty

>>163913540
how can this series be real if our eyes aren't real

mem

>>163913515
NO

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Is vanilla DaS3 alive?

>>163913605
>>163913515

What's the point of this? All it does it make it impossible to search for replies to your comment


maybe that is a good idea

>>163901349
It's actually really good though. the only real complaint people have about it is how short it is.

The arena basically makes up for it though.

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>>163913515

>>163913605
Yeah, Chinese moot got tired of fucking cringy faggots being like "here's your (You)" and "thanks for the (You)" and shit so he killed them. And I'm fine with it.

>>163913360

Equip CGSR if you have it and/or Crystal Sage Rapier offhand and/or pop a coin, two-hand your main and farm the pair at Farron Perimeter, you'll get it pretty quickly.

Did people actually use the arena in Dark Souls 1 when it came out or was that always totally abandoned?

The Zweihänder (Pronounced Tsvai-hen-dair) represents Miyazaki's growing rejection of Japanese nationalism and its counterpart National Socialism via the continuing loss of power between sequels (commonly called 'nerfing' in "gamer"culture) of the fetishized Germanic weapon.

You can read more about this in my dissertation.

>>163913674
Supposedly it will stop trolling and baiting. Even though those predate (you)s by a lot. In reality it's just going to make it hard to tell for legitimate posters when someone has responded to you and gook moot has fucked up again.

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>>163913515
>nearly 2017
>not using 4chanx

>>163913694
where did this happen, do you have a thread link?
i'm imagining he posted in an /a/ thread and the first 20 replies were something like "here's your (You)"

>>163913789
Does 4chanx no longer fuck up constantly on firefox?

>>163913717
arena was only used for a first month after pc release
it fucked up meta a little because a lot of twitchfaggots stayed at SL100

>>163913846
Not him, but
>nearly 2017
>even thinking about using Firefox

>>163913717
People used it for a few weeks after AotA dropped, but everybody just migrated to Township because timed matches are just as annoying in Dark Souls as they are in Smash Brothers. This is the same reason why DS3 arena is basically dead outside of 1v1 Duels, and Sullivan's Shitter Stadium is still a popular duel spot.

Fuck I hate this gay ass community that doesn't realize that 2v2 Brawls are the only fun arena mode, despite the timer.

>Invade someone
>They immediately smash alt+f4
>check their profile
>several hundred hours of terraria and undertale

>>163913912
I'm tired of google's spyware everywhere as it is, I'm not using their browser.

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>>163913694
>making the thread navigation harder for the sake of pissing off a few members

Typical hotpocket cuckoldry

>>163913717
On the PC version I never got matches in the arena even on my first playthrough.

>>163913440
that's very kind anon but he gives an ass load of souls for my level and I have some coins. He should give it up soon

>>163913912
well luakit is still crashing all the time and there's no way i'm touching chrome

>>163913994
>tired of google's spyware
>solving reCAPTCHAs and letting Google log your activity to within the minute
sure

>>163913945
Huge FFAs are also fun.

>>163914015

You..... you're farming the one in the basement? Christ.

>>163901151
what is the most stylish weapon in ds3

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>>163913912
>not using firefox when chrome forces directwrite down your throat

So is it normal for a person who had prior experience with the original DS2 to reach SL 150+ on the first run on DS2 SOTFS with no farming whatsoever?

>>163913846
It seems to work perfectly on every browser now.

>>163914154
yes
why wouldn't it be

>>163914096
friede's greatscythe

>>163914216
I don't remember getting that high in SL back in DS2 on the first run.

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>>163914057
I agree now that you mention it, but there's something about the unspoken coordination that sometimes goes on in 2v2 Brawls that appeals to me more

>>163913980
>Invade someone
>Try to smack them about a bit, but none of my attacks connect
>Get hit across space and time
>check their profile
>its this

>>163914251
>dlc

>>163914154
Yeah, I hit 150 very easily/early. I think it is partially because I knew not to waste souls on anything other than levels or leveling up a bunch of extra useless weapons. SM really screwed over the game.

>>163914301
that's a cute anime girl anon
bet you're just jealous because your waifu is shit

>>163914096
Dancer's swords

>>163914324
I played DS2 far after the DLC came.

Also is the SOTFS ver of Smelter Demon easier? I still have a harder time with Blue Smelter but I remember the hell that is the first Smelter and I aced it.

>>163914372
pretty sure he is talking about the chinese flag

>>163914154
It's a long ass game so yes

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>>163914372
>implying

>>163914451
nigga u dumb

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my waifu

>>163914096

BKGS.

>>163912898
>>163913019
some poise, a good talisman and sunlight spear/lightning stake/lightning storm is all you need for a good miracle build, trade for days

>>163914154
Yes. DS2 stats use different balancing metrics than DS1.

The inclusion of ADP and softcaps at 40 and 60 means that DS2 levels are ~1.5x higher than DS1 levels. So SL150 in DS2 is about SL100 in DS1.

>>163913673
ofcourse! Stay around sl35 for early invasions, 40-50 for farron watchdogs and 60-70 for aldritch faithful

>>163914401
Depends on your fire resistance. Smelter demon does primarily fire damage.

You can actually make yourself immune to damage from his second form if you stack flash sweat + being wet (rolling in pots) + flame quartz ring + decent (15/15) int and faith.

>>163914928
Well I think I went in with Full Drangleic Set with Vengarl Helm.

>>163914401
>Also is the SOTFS ver of Smelter Demon easier?
you got gud
>I still have a harder time with Blue Smelter
normal, blue smelter has different timings for his attacks

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ok

>>163915023
kek

>>163914975
>>163914401
>aged smelter armor never ever
>smelter helmet not retardedly big never ever
well fuck

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>>163911814\
>>163911814
>>163911814
>>163911814

YOU BETTER FUCKING REPLY

RIGHT NOW

>>163906087
too beefy

>>163915137
kys

Forbidden Sun will never come back. Why

Just got dks2 sotfs for pc a few days ago, after playing it on the pleb box on release, went to duel in red at sl 150. Good to see everyone still has shit internet, abuses phantom ranges, and levels to fucking 400

>>163915321
Vestiges is much better than overnerfed forbidden sun.

>>163915390
It's not as fast and it's not as cool.

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>>163915378
>shit internet
DS2's netcode is just garbage in general.

does sunlight spear look cool in das3
this is the only criteria to whether i will buy that game or not

>>163915481
I thought it was improved upon in sotfs

>>163915378
It's literally impossible to be SL150 and fight SL400 players unless you wasted/lost literally 78% of your souls or more.

If you fight in the arena, it works off your SL, not SM.

Phantom range is in DS3 and DS1 too, and is worse in DS1. Still bad though, so there's that.

Internet only affects lag, not latency/hit detection. It's more likely you have 'good' internet but slow ping times so you're getting lots of phantom range / hit delay.

>>163915481
Or Soulsbourne netcode as a whole really.

>>163915558
haha no
ended yesterday on a complete lagfest where a guy was hitting me from the other end of the arena and none of my hits even fucking registered

>>163915518
Decide for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWA-TtPwKWc

>>163915595
what da heck why I hit this bitch for the same damage she did to me when she had no armor and I had +8 armor there's no probable way

>>163915481
From soft's netcode is just garbage in general.

Check DS2 credits. They have 3 people doing network programming and the rest is all up to Bandai's team.

DS1 didn't have any network designers, it was pure bamco who did the servers/online.

Not sure about DS3.

>>163915667
Why does everything in DaS3 look so fucking gay? Look at previous games sunlight spears, you charged it for like a second before throwing and it was really fucking cool, even if it was completely useless in pvp. Now it just looks like a flashy lightning spear or something, not feeling any power behind it.

>>163915769
The first flame is almost dead so sunlight is very weak now. It was just 2deep4u but now you see. do u rike it?

>>163915650
>>163915558
SOTFS netcode is improved, but there's more players (and also less region locking) so you're more likely to end up fighting someone with lag.

Also most people who primarily PvP in DS2 now that DS3 is out are using computers that can't run DS3 anyway or waited until it was for sale to buy, so they tend to not have the best connections.

But getting lag in 1 out of 100 matches vs 1 out of 50 matches is still not enough to call the online complete shit, at least not more shit than other from soft games. Lag was way worse in DS1.

>>163915137
>shitty new age sion
>not the old school og sion

your tastes are bad.

>>163915829
Too bad the matches that aren't lagfests are still 70% hexer faggots running away to heal, katana fucks spamming running attacks and people throwing 4 buffs on before the match ever starts

>>163915892
>muh honorabru duerr

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>You are being summoned to another world...
>Being summoned to another world as phantom...
>A connection error occured. Returning to your world...

>>163915950
>putting on so many buffs you take 100 damage per hit, making the match draw out forever and not fun in any way
>hurr durr honorfags xD

>>163915892
>muh etiquette

>>163915989
>not liking extended fights

>>163915137
i don't know this dude and im not going to research to help some random dude. if you describe him and his abilities, i might be able to help you. i imagine ds3?

Where can I see how much poise damage weapons do in DS2?

>>163915729
She was probably using Flynn's Ring or RoB.

DS2 isn't DS1. Your damage doesn't purely come from scaling, you can do high damage without heavy level investment.

DS2 physical damage formula:

[AR - (Def/10)] * 5/6 * buffs * critical

So if you have 500 armor defense, you lower incoming AR by 50 before buffs. If you have Ring of Blades or Flynn's equipped, you buff outgoing AR by 50 points before buffs. The two cancel out.

You can always stack more physical damage for less level investment than physical defense.

You can always stack more elemental defense for less level investment than elemental damage.

Armor in DS2 only matters against weak pure physical weapons like Katanas, curved swords, straight sword, daggers, etc. That's why they buff+infuse weaker weapons since they can bypass physical armor now.

If you want to get good at DS2 PvP, this is the meta:

>Buffed+Infused+clutch or ROB flynn resin
>Great magic barrier or Sacred Oath
>dispelling ring or blue tearstone ring
>counter damage melee or projectiles/spells

If you picked the wrong ones, use parries, hard reads, positioning, and roll/attack punishing to make up the difference. If you picked the right ones, play defensively and trade the whole match and hope they don't out-maneuver you or hard swap their rings.

The sort of pick-counterpick style of the damage types is very reminiscent of Armored Core, which makes sense since the DS2 team designed ACVD (which actually has good PvP, probably the only good From Soft PvP outside of chromehounds).

The best builds will always be buffed+infused katanas or rapiers doing trades or pokes the whole match, with a hard swap to a physical damage katana or rapier if the enemy is stacking elemental defense.

>>163916296
The good old days of the three hit combo with straight sword and rapier offhand with RoB+Flynn and really.

>>163916271
on the stat screen?

What are the best cheese builds for DS3? The more essential dung pies are, the better.

I hate the fact that I have to carry a parry tool at all times in DS3. I resorted to using FUGS just so I won't get parried.

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>>163916417
Doesn't list how much poise damage different moves do (like r1, r2 and jumping attack, jumping attack obviously does more poise damage).

>>163916460
Bleed.

>>163916271

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-iCrOdAGp3uQ9I0VgQYU2Ug2d4w2PbQZhBnobLakaMs/pubhtml

Stone ring adds 30 to those numbers, not to the "poise damage" stat. So 1HR1 15 poise damage weapons do 45, with stone ring that's 75. Not 112 (45 poise damage).

If you want to build a poise tank, you can hit about ~150 poise through just equipment and another 100 poise if you cast iron flesh. This lets you poise through any attack from anything in the greatsword class or lower, and poise through any attack (except for some extreme weapons) while in HA.

Without iron flesh, you can still poise through most 1HR1s and some 1HR2s, but 2H weapons will almost always stagger you still except in hyperarmor.

>>163916554
Is there a "Bloody Stool" build?

>>163915961
>you are being summoned to another world
>summoning aborted due to timeout

i just want to help people, dammit

>>163916558
>>163916553
>>163916271

There is a highly underrated meta for poise stacking and 100% equip load trades in DS2, especially since that lets you put a lot of SL into other stats.

Since trading is so powerful in DS2 because of the way netcode works (only way to guarantee a hit is to attack at the same time they do so they can't roll away) clever use of poise can make or break most matches.

The problem is that it relies on most people not realizing that 2H their weapon dramatically increases poise damage. If you're up against a 1H weapon using full poise, you can basically stomp all over them. Once they switch to 2H though, you have to back off.

3M SM in SOTFS and I can't see any signs.

>>163916684
This also only works against average players, anyone who is good enough to read a build will know not to trade with you in those situations.

>>163916460
>>163916582
You have to either decide whether you want to be a memer who throws shit or actually effective fighting. Toxic is so much less effective in DS3 than 1/2 that it's not particularly worth doing especially with how much heals the host has compared to you.

So is Soul Memory at 3m good enough for some PVP?

>>163916701
Where are you?

You should see signs at Iron Keep or in some DLC areas. 3M is too high for most other areas though. Assuming PC.

>>163916790
PC so I'm out of luck sadly?

>>163916768
Damn, being a memer was half the fun; are the Dragonslayer Greatbows and Velociraptor builds forever behind us now?

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>>163916558
What about pve though?Will two handed old knight hammer let me smash everything down?

>>163916919
>pve
Unironically git gud.

>>163916779
If you're at 3M or below, you should be setting your sign down.

If you're at 5-20M or above, you should be summoning others.

this is because red sign soapstone reaches furhter above your SM than it does behind you.

Dragon eye has the widest range and it reaches equally above and below you.

9m is the max SM you can have and still use red sign / dragon eye without hitting max level characters.


Putting you sign down: 3m, softcap at 5m, hardcap at 9m

Picking up other signs: 5m, hardcap at 45m,