/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2

is warrior of sunlight covenant fucked somehow?

before joining i had almost instant summons in front of dragonslayer armor, now i wait for much longer and when i connect i can't follow the host through the fog

been only summoned twice in the covenant so might be coincidental

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Cute?

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Patrician:
Radiance
Milkweed
Impurity

Plebeian:
Beast's Embrace
Corruption
Hunter

>get invaded early cathedral of the deep
>takes a cheap shot at me
>the nigger has carthus flame arc and a cathedral knight greatsword
>chug to get my health to full and bow
>nigga charging at me
>get him low health multiple times
>chugs like a pro errytime
honesly do people that invade have some brain problems? they literally can't into honorabru

>>163847043
>What's pontiff's stand called
>pontiff 2

>>163847312
>corruption
>bad
>literally earning twice as much insight per invasion

>>163847436
kys

Friede is a great example of why bosses shouldn't have a bunch of different forms and a ton of health.

>>163847559
It's Deep Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

>>163847692
>>163847108
how pathetic are you for real

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How are you getting 27 Vigor at SL 17?

>>163847108
DeS>BB>>DaS2=DaS1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS3

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>>163847273
Cute!

>>163847629
not even kidding, I feel bad if I invade people and can't bring myself to utterly shit on people that bow and dont chug

in reality am I the one with brain problems?

>>163847273
Yes

>>163847809
being a warrior and equipping prisoner's chain

>>163847108
Every morning luci groans as he gets his fat autistic ass out of bed

he presses his face to his computer screen and counts his (yous) from the night prior. One stroke to his cock for every (you) he gets, his sweaty form jerking it over a copy of dark souls 3. He mumbles to himself, repeating the DS2-hate memes quietly as he practices.

What's this? A new thread? with no replies? His obese heart flutters with excitement and he wipes chicken grease from his forehead.

"today"

"yes, today will be the day that I get all the (yous)"

His stubby fingers jam the keyboard, wiping his brow from the effort. Which meme to use? Which meme?

Ah yes, Fume Knight. Oh it's so delicious, clearly it will trigger everyone! And don't forget the ">"! One... two... FIVE. Today I shall post five. He scrolls to the post he made yesterday. Five is enough. He could do six, but that would require typing, instead of just copypasta. He is a generous god and will just leave the "DaS2 babbys" with just five ">"s. He lifts his fat chin in approval of his decision.

Submitted. No one even sniped him. How perfect. He groans as he starts to fondle his balls, pulling back his fupa. He is doing the lord's work, hourly defending the threa-

...not "the" thread, HIS thread. Yes, after all he is the best player in these threads. Everyone knows it. He can't wait for the (you)s. He starts rubbing his copy of DS3 against his crotch, drooling at the chance to start a thread with his memes.

His memes, his thread, his game. He is so powerful, so superior in his choices. He readies his tabs, pre-written responses, uploaded webms. He licks his tripfag.

Only 16 hours to go until he has to sleep again. Plenty of time to keep posting more memes, plenty of time to reap in the (you)s. Plenty of time to remind everyone how powerful he is.

16 hours, then he can sleep, then he can do it all over again. All day. Non stop, since 2014.

"God-King Lucifer" refreshes the page.

>>163847853
0/10, you tried

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>>163847809
by not being retarded

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>>163847108
>DaS1 > DeS
nah
>shitty washed out graphics that are worst than des graphics unless you use dsfix on pc
>that fps without mods
>everything after the lord vessel
>lost izalith

>>163846830
>When you use that glitch, well, to copy your argument, you might as well use CE to give yourself infinite consumables? It's only fair, right?

That's not the same thing because again, abusing host advantages to the most cancerous maximum is essentially cheating already since it's impossible to punish a host who just runs away forever while hiding behind a shield and backpeddling with 15 possible estus while resummoning any of his 3 buddies if they die over and over again with way of the blue on 'cause why not. And if they feel like it, seed too.

>The reason squads are less common is that the game isn't as invader populated as before.

This is true too. There are many reasons

>>163847960
>>163848061

CE must be fucking with me then because I did exactly that.

Any recomended locations for being summoned at SL:75 with +7 Weapons on PS4?
Or is Ds3 just ded...?

>>163848139
>i'm allowed to cheat because my enemy is being an ass!! MOOOOOOOM !!!!!!!!!!

grow up

>>163848339
yes consoles are dead

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>>163848345
>you're not allowed to cheat but your opponent is because ????

okay then.

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Reminder of prettiest armor in the game

>>163848570
where did the opponent cheat? new to the convo, not going crossthread for this. unless you're referring to "a host who just runs away forever while hiding behind a shield and backpeddling with 15 possible estus while resummoning any of his 3 buddies if they die over and over again with way of the blue on 'cause why not. And if they feel like it, seed too" as cheating. in which case, get off it dude. it's literally in the game and intended

>died to crystal sage 5 times
should i just kill myself

>>163848570
how is being a bitch and summon spamming cheating? all i hear is baby cries while reading your posts. just read them yourself. grow up dude.

How to get the Demon's Souls OST? Was it really exclusive to the limited edition release a few years ago?

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>>163848717
This character isn't thin enough for this armor

>>163848728
>in which case, get off it dude. it's literally in the game and intended
>>163848824
>how is being a bitch and summon spamming cheating? all i hear is baby cries while reading your posts

Okay I think I'm done. This just reinvigorates me to use glitches even more because you know what? It's not a glitch. Miyazaki got this shit coded in the game, I'm not using anything outside of the game. It's working as intended.

Ha, wow. Yes, if it's in the game it's working as intended, got it. The shit ganking scum say to help them sleep at night, my fucking god dude... wow. Just wow.

>>163848958
but then there is no thigh and ass

>>163848812
dont pls

>>163848812
If it isn't NG+7 yes, kill yourself

Recently made a character for co-op.
I'm SL60+6, haven't upgraded my weapon or leveled up in a while, but I can upgrade to +10 and level up significantly.
Going to Anor Londo next, already killed Yhorm, what would be the appropiate SL and WUL for the next areas?

>>163848812
well the boss is pretty tough if you stumble upon it early. you can get one hit killed from those duplicates sometimes.

>>163849136
its the second phase
i go to attack the actual sage and its mates come and fuck my face

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>>163849013
i never said i agreed or that it's fair. but cheating is a whole other subject. if you don't like it simply play something else. unless someone is pointing a gun at your head forcing you to invade in 3 and win, with any means possible. then, do what you have to do

>>163849380

Get some throwing knifes, the fakes die in on hit.

which boss to coop at sl 90, +10 weapon?

>>163848717
this isn't undead legion armor with alva or knight helmet

>>163849595

It's like the choose your own difficulty which miyazaki is famous for. I only use glitches when running into hosts I feel deserving of it. Most of the time I don't need it but it's nice to have on hand just in case.

Someone put their sign down outside the second bonfire in iron keep

>>163849790
Choose your own difficulty only applies to the main game. PvP is an afterthought, and that's why they don't patch out those glitches.

>>163849863
Transferring bootleg firmware to my prototype pre-production Ouya, anon.

>>163849790
i actually back and saw. was bloodlust glitch the only "cheating" you did? because in that case fuck that noise, it's from's responsibility to patch it. they were quick enough to patch the tod skip

>>163849929
>Choose your own difficulty only applies to the main game.

It applies to PvP too, I just explained how.

>>163849625
Twins, Nameless King, Soul of Cinder maybe the DLC ones

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>come back to this game after a long hiatus
>shitters still spamming straightsword r1

>>163849970

I know about the bloodlust glitch and did it for a bit but honestly I generally just don't even bother with it because it takes too long and only lasts 45 seconds. Obviously the option is there if necessary but I generally never bother with it and haven't used it since playing around with it for a day after first discovering it.

Main glitch I use is the miracle healglitch which basically just amounts to having a couple of extra estus per invasion, it's not even that insane it's just nice to have when fighting against bullshit.

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Tell me something I don't know about DaS1.

>>163850068
Let me tell you a secret press l2

>Otzdarva streaming
>literally got jojo characters + their stands fighting against each other with some guy yelling "OLOLOLOLOLOLOO" in the mic

this guy is a genius

>>163849971
No, you explained a development oversight, not an intentional design choice.

Choose your own difficulty =/= exploiting the flaws in the game

>>163849102
Anyone?

Also if you wanna do co-op, reply with place and password.

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>>163850231
kaathe doesn't like getting succed

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do i need more vigor? when embered i feel i have plenty, but without ember it feels too little

where to dump the rest

>>163850362

But I can artificially apply the same exact concept to PvP, whether it's intended or not doesn't matter.

>>163850417

You posted that one last time.

>>163850231
Gwyndolin is cute!

>>163850231
http://illusorywall.tumblr.com/
https://www.youtube.com/user/Wulf2k9

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>>163850471
yeah, that's the first thing i post when people ask. it's rare to have someone know. you can suck invisible dicks

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>>163847108
DS3 > DS1 > BB > DS2 > Demon

>>163850423
>20 end
>30 vit
? ? ?

>>163847043

What's a good way to approach building a pyromancer, especially with chaos gems not available until so late game?

What weapons do you like to use? What stats do you shoot for?

is the cathedral knight greatsword fun?

IS IT?

>>163850538

But Anon, I know that.

>>163850429
You can exploit something in the PvP because you care more about winning than playing the game and found a glitch that the devs are too busy (and don't care enough about) to fix, yes.

pat yourself on the back

>>163847692
Wow how much bullshit can a DaS2 fag fit into one post?

>>163848082
>Everything after the Lordvessel
Not liking
>Darkroot Garden
>Darkroot Basin
>New Londo Ruins
>Dukes Archives
>Painted World
>Royal Woods
>Oolacile Township
>Chasm of the Abyss

>>163851180

Also, is there any way to make a decent blessed weapon or is it a retarded dream to think of it?

>>163851245
it's the same as ultra greatsword sadly
i was really hoping for the same animations the knights do with it

>>163850719
are you saying i need more end or that i don't need as much vit?

i wanted to try some heavier armors, and i use a stamina regen ring, i don't feel like i need more

>>163851180
Raw Astora Straight Sword then switch to Onyx Blade or Longsword infused with Dark. As close to 40int/40fth as you can get.

>>163851423
should I go for that or the executioner greatsword for pve?

>>163851373
>Darkroot Garden
>Darkroot Basin
>New Londo Ruins
>Painted World
>after the Lordvessel
And the 3 last areas you said were DLC.

WHY IS FRIED SO DANG HARD

>>163850538
I have some theories involving petrus and chester, but i don't want to tell them now

>>163851602
whatever you like and enjoy for pve

>>163851875
TELL ME WHAT TO ENJOY FUCK

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>SL83 +10

Game's dead as fuck.

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Whats a fun dark build for das2?
I always go
50 att
30 fai
30 int
And then always end up just using the roaring halberd and fume sword and dont use spells.

>>163852294
you fell for the SL80 pvp meme

>>163852031
Not him, but take the astora greatsword and rub them through with its halberd weapon art.

Just dont use the rolling attack against spears guys. It blows.

>>163851697
Use the dick. Nobody can beat the dick, not even Friede.

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>>163852392
>meme

>Ambien
>AsphyxiatedDuck
>BigMoose1985
>Cassieiyxa
>D_Invader
>Dark
>DarkSunMaster
>DarkUrbanSouls
>Dgrayed
>DoktorAvalanche_
>Dr Frobotnik
>Emarrel
>EmoDragonZ
>FanaticLogic
>Foven
>Fomortiis100
>Frownface
>Gensmash
>Gildex
>GrimDisaster
>HughGReaction
>Hanako
>HellkiteDrake
>Ippiki9
>Kagami_S00mika
>Kaizo
>Kumomi
>MarcyMilfshake
>MerisDKS
>Milchnudeltraum
>muh_feels
>Nonintellectual
>OnlyAfro
>Party1Poison
>PreOrdain16
>Sansviedotcom
>SaturdaySaint
>ShaftEffect
>SmokeMyCrayon
>SuffocatedGuy
>Teorec
>thatsleepyguy
>Thivus
>TWOOLS
>Underscore_Flash
>Vimtoman
>zachrealtalk

Reminder that all these people are dead and gone

>>163852547
damn it you sure showed me

>>163852620
majority doesn't care about your discord/youtube circlejerk

>>163852620
baka onlyafro is not dead

>>163852620
I wonder what onlyafro is wearing right now

>>163852620
>hellkite
>dead
you're retarded

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>>163852628
Yeah, I kinda did.

>>163852786
Should I whip out my 7 month old screenshots with hud off too?

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>>163852737
l-lewd

>>163851678
Yep after the Lordvessel unless you're a massive autist that goes up to yellow fog doors just because its possible.
>And the 3 last areas you said were DLC
DLC you can only access after the Lordvessel

>>163852881
Are you such a retard on purpose?

>Post dead PvP area
>"He fell for the meme"
>Prove it literally wasn't a meme
>Hurr I can post old screenshots too :^)

>>163853480
How are your screenshots proving anything? You have no hud, no stats. This might as well be SL120 1 month after game release screenshot and you can't prove otherwise.

>>163853215
>exploring areas you aren't railroaded to is autism
Your kind deserves to be gassed.

>>163853691
How can you prove your screenshot isn't on xbox?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GRd6efgMv8

reminder to support our boy Soulless

>>163851678
following the "intended" progression, all those sans ariamis' is post lordvessel

>>163853778
I don't know man, does xbox render in 4k?

Does anybody else get turned on when they see one of the Slimes in the Depths use their grab attack on the player character?

>>163848082
>>163848958
i want to tell the dancer everything will be ok right before getting snu snu to death

>>163853829
https://youtu.be/_CtrA1VxQW0?t=1m
someone should make webm with this reaction

>>163854063
PC is dead anon, PS4 is where it's alive.

The people who say the game is dead play mostly on PC

>>163854237
just him or the riposte too?

>>163854312
>12k on steam right now

i really doubt there is anywhere near even half of that on ps4

>>163854312
Do you have any stats to go with your statement?

>>163854431
His face should be enough.

>>163850708
You aren't even trying anymore.

>>163854074
No, but i dont have a slime fetish
i get turned on when Mytha grabs the player character with her tail, though

>>163854461
No, anon, PC is dead.

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>>163853691
Are you suggesting I'm trying to false flag or something? Why would I manufacture several screenshots to try and make a false point someone could easily get on their PS4 and check themselves? The spot was alive months ago at SL70 +10, and now it's dead even at SL80 +10. Being that I'm on PS4 I'm not exactly happy about it and have even less of a reason to false flag over it.

>inb4 offline

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>>163854646

Should i buy the dlc for das3?

>>163855010
ye
it's very good

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>>163854986
you da real mvp

>>163853702
>Doing everything you aren't actively prevented from doing and walking back before getting the Lordvessel and treating that as 'the correct way' is autism
Yes
Not to mention you'll mess up the NPC plotlines. Stupid autist.

>>163854894
>PS4

lmao you're a fucking riot

>>163854894
Why would people duel there when the arena is a thing?

>>163854952
Too bad it doesn't shit you out the other end

>>163854894
>ps4
>dead
Who could've guessed?

>>163855221
Looks like someone is still salty about Bloodborne.

>>163855341
Lucifer the boss

>>163855343

https://youtu.be/mt8hnM0CNTE?t=3m23s

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I am about 50 hours in on my first playthrough, i killed a bunch of bosses, not even sure which bosses were main bosses and which were optional.

D-Did I beat the game?

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>>163855341
Not him, but probably the same reason the bridge was popular on das2, people like the fight clubs.

>>163855927
Did you reach Dragnleic castle?

>>163855927
No. You're about half-way through the base game, anon.

>>163855927
Did you get the credits? If not, seek the throne.

>>163856054
no

but ive been to a bunch of gates that dont let me inside, one of them says Closed and the other is asking for the kings genture

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FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER NIGGER PIECE OF SHIT GET FUCKED I ALMOST ENJOYED THIS FUCKING DLC FOR A SECOND I ALMOST FUCKING TOLD MYSELF "WOW THIS DLC IS PRETTY WELL DONE AND HAS SOME GOOD IDEAS AND COOL AREA NOT ALL THOSE BOTTLENECKED ATROCIOUS INFURIATING SHITFESTS IN THE REST OF THE GAME" WELL FUCK YOU FUCK THIS GAME
YES RUIN A GOOD DLC WITH THE WORST BOSS RUN EVER YOU STUPID CHINK NIGGERS AND AS IF AIDS WASN'T ENOUGH LET US HAVE SOME EBOLA FOR DESSERT

GIT GUD AMIRITE GUISE ?

>>163856213
Then you haven't finished the game then have you?

If you have SOTFS you aren't even half way.

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I spent the last 3 hours farming lothric armor on my knight, now my rolls are slow as shit.

Is this armor set supposed to be used much later or is the slow roll part of the negative of using this set?

>>163856213
Can you type all the names of the souls with these big orange icons?

>>163854648
DS2 > god-king lucifer

>>163856446
on dark souls 3

>>163856360
Why do you get upset about coop area boss?

>>163856360
>GIT GUD AMIRITE GUISE ?
Well, yeah.

>>163854952
god i wish that were me

>>163855462
own and beat dark souls 3 on ps4, you're fucking stupid if you think you'll get good pvp there though

>>163856575
more than 70% equip load makes you roll slow

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>>163856507
Nah, this is the hardest boss in the game and even he is a push over once you learn his gimmick. I took me several tries to learn it though, mainly because the main trick is learning to avoid his BS grab hitbox.

>>163856446
It's just heavy and you went over 70% burden with it. You need more vitality if you want to wear that without rolling like a fat fuck.

>>163855927
DS2 has the most open exploration of the other games, you basically get to spend the first half killing everything in sight going anywhere you want. There's no rails. ALL bosses are technically optional for the first half of the game.

There are 4 main bosses at the end of their respective 4 paths, but if you collect enough souls you don't need to kill any of them. For NG+ runs it's advised to farm soul items so you can skip the whole first half of the game.

Second half only has a few mandatory areas and bosses, with a bit of an optional fetch quest to kill all the bosses.

>>163856360
The idea itself is actually pretty funny, but the execution is tedious and rather annoying. Kiting and parrybaiting isnt exactly the most fun thing i have done for a bosd.

>>163856360
Honestly, this wasn't that hard, but it was way more fun than most souls bosses. There's a lot more strategy involved in dodging 3 attackers rather than just one big slow one.

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>>163856794
>you're fucking stupid if you think you'll get good pvp there though
Fite me fgt.

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PRAISE THE SUN /dsg/

>>163856818
DS2 > God-King Lucifer

has nothing to do with boss difficulty. You're just shit.

>>163856484
Sure

It's Soul of the Lost Sinner, Old Iron King Soul, and Soul of the Rotten.

I believe I may have popped another one I had though

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>>163854986

>>163857119
>blacksmith hammer
>das2
>old worn out meme

Calling this as attempted bait or im getting increasingly jaded

>>163856994
>DS2 has the most open exploration of the other games
Bullshit
>There's no rails.
Bullshit, there are 5 rails.
>For NG+ runs it's advised to farm soul items so you can skip the whole first half of the game.
>it's advised
Bullshit

>>163855215
So you're telling me that the braindead easy Moonlight Butterfly, whose main reward is the divine ember, is a boss you aren't supposed to fight until after you've been through Anor Londo, defeated the much harder Ornstein and Smough, and already gotten yourself a free Divine Club+5? That doesn't make any sense, anon. What are you supposed to do with the green titanite shards you found in Blighttown?

>"the correct way"
When did I ever suggest that there was only one valid progression path? You call others autistic, but how autistic is it to try and force your preferred route through a non-linear game as "the intended way"? The only intended progression in the game is Asylum -> Bells -> Lordvessel -> Gwyn. Everything in between is up to the player. It's because of fags like you that this style of world design was never repeated and we got linear levels for babies who can't be trusted with making their own decisions.

>>163857229
You don't get another big orange one until later. Some people seem to think Freja's is a big one but it isn't.

How2Pyro with Onyx Blade?

Best pyromancies to use for pve and pvp?

>>163857347
there's 5 paths and you can warp between any of them at any time. That means you're not on any rails.You also go back to those paths in any order you want later on in the game. That's more open exploration than DS1 or DS3 had.

http://darksouls2.wikidot.com/shrine-of-winter
>In Scholar of the First Sin, an easier method is to farm the Soul of a Great Hero in the Dragon Aerie in NG, which is on a ledge accessed by dropping from the zip line near the bonfire. A respawning Bonfire Ascetic is also located in the first cave nearby, and the entire area can be bypassed in NG+ and above. Using Soul of a Great Hero exclusively to meet the 2M requirement will require collecting 99; getting the extra 20,000 souls at the start of NG+ should be trivial. Fewer are required depending on how many other types of souls you have available to consume.

>literally advised the wiki

>>163857621
Fire Surge people to death all day long.

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>>163857621

>>163857229
If you killed the big twin headed spider then you should go to ruined fork road bonfire (one of the majula branching paths, where Benhart was sitting) and reach shrine of winter. If you orient yourself as if you came from majula then go left and you'll find it. Open the gate and proceed further. If you didn't kill the spider then well, you gotta do it. Reach boss of Shaded Woods (right path) then go through Doors of Pharros to Brightstone Cove Tseldora and clear that shit.

>>163857674
>There's five rails, but you can switch the tracks at any time while traveling straight down these five rails so you aren't on rails
Dumb DS2 apologist.

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cute as fuck

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Is the dark souls community bad, /dsg/?

>>163858058
Friede is cute, yeah.

>>163858058
looks like shit

>"something is true about DS2"
>"NO IT'S NOT TRUE IT'S AWFUL"
>"But it's right there in plain sight, even if you don't like the game it's a plain fact"
>"I DON'T LIKE IT, SO NOTHING YOU SAY IS RIGHT"

I bet if I talked about how DS2 was great because it had a giant spider, someone would reply saying how Duke Dear Freja doesn't actually exist, therefore the game is shit, just to be contrarian.

>>163858117
fuck u btch

>>163858058

Post butt.

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>>163857841
I went there, but the the screen was too bright and it gave me a headache, so i just came here instead

>>163858091
Absolute cancer, honestly.

Bunch of stuck up elitists who think they are hot shit because they can clear the hardest game ever made" with a guide they found on the internet and 2 phantoms doing all the work

That being said, above is a generalization and you can still find decent people

Poll: What's the most difficult boss fight in all of the Souls games, in your opinion? Which is the easiest?
Curious because all of my friends who have played have wildly different answers.

>>163858428
Friede should go back to BB and stay there desu

>>163857362
>When did I ever suggest that there was only one valid progression path?
When you insisted they were pre lord-vessel.

>but how autistic is it to try and force your preferred route through a non-linear game as "the intended way"?
Exactly. Salty autist.

>The only intended progression in the game is Asylum -> Bells -> Lordvessel -> Gwyn.
No the NPC plotlines have a semi intended progression as well.

>>163858428
Easiest is Prowling Magus and Congregation.

>>163858193
>DS1: 6 linear branches, with 2 loops (oolacile, darkroot) and one shortcut (valley of the drakes to darkroot)

>DS2: 6 branches, with bonfire warping instead of loops

>DS3: a single main branch with a secondary branch to untended gardens, with a few optional parts along the way.

>BB: 5 main branches with lots and lots of shortcuts and loops

Add the primal bonfire loops into DS2 and it's obvious that it's way less on-rails than DS3, maybe more so than DS1.

>>163858024
>>163857674
>>163857347

>>163858428
Havent played bb or das3 dlc yet, but so far o+s, but not for good reasons.

For an actually good boss, probably either artorias or nameless king

>>163858305
You mean the fogged part in the woods?

>>163858635
Forgot the easiest boss, probably the congregation

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>>163858635
>Camera King
>good boss

>>163856360
acquire
proficiency

>>163858428
Most difficult in all Souls?

Probably something from DaS2 for me, but that's mostly because of DaS2's handling.

Easiest is probably something from DeS, maybe

I don't know, it's hard to say trying to eliminate bias and once-you-know-their-strategy type thinking.

I think I'm gonna say, for me, Orphan of Kos is the hardest so far, with Congregation being probably the easiest. But there's a lot of runner-ups for both.

>>163858428

Haven't played DS3, but Covetous demon is the easiest. Prowling magus can heal and do decent damage if your dark /lighting defense is bad.

Hardest is probably Manus.

>>163858428
Ancient Dragon.

>>163858428
>most difficult
Friede
>easiest
Pinwheel

>>163858428
I want to say Friede is the hardest for me, but only her third phase ever gives me trouble, so it feels like it counts for less. Nameless king is sort of the same, although his first phase it pretty irritating, even if it isn't that difficult.

>>163854202
I want the Dancer to sit on me while she's being faceraped by Pontiff.

Yo Garbman that was a good fight halberd poise still makes no sense to me.

>>163858662
yes after you examine the fountain thing

>>163858428
Haven't played 3 but Ornstein and Smough nearly made me give up on 1 altogether. I estimate I tried over 50 times before getting incredibly lucky, barely even feel like it was a legitimate win. There have been other hard bosses but that was the only one that got me close to saying "fuck this"
There are a bunch of easy ones that I stumbled into and managed to kill on the first try.

>>163857103
>parry on Farron meme sword
How ? Everytime I tried to parry with it I failed, but I can parry easily with a parry shield or ceastus

I can't get friede to her third phase

>>163857674
>there's 5 paths and you can warp between any of them at any time. That means you're not on any rails.You also go back to those paths in any order you want later on in the game.
Bullshit. You have to do them in a mostly fixed order

>literally advised the wiki
You can also just watch the ending cut-scene on youtube. That way you won't even mess up your soul memory.

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>>163858973
Halberds got cucked few patches back. Especially tinder since it doesn't have a proper weapon art compared to others.

>>163859324
Do you want a summon ?
PC

>>163859324
What's giving you trouble in the first two phases?

>>163859362

Yeah but their poise got buffed a patch ago to not suck as much, Straight Swords and such are poiseable now without insane poise, guess Axes have higher poise damage.

>>163858907
pinwheel can actually kill you, even at high levels, if you let him summon his goons. i'd say taurus takes the cake for easiest

>>163859484
>r1 scythe memestein
>doesn't have the scythe in his tier

>>163858916
>>163858907
>>163858890
>>163858860
>>163858821
>>163858428

Better question:

Most difficult the first time you play?
Most difficult after you've gotten good at the game?

Easiest the first time you play?
Easiest after you've figured out the game?

Dark souls has way too many bosses that are only hard because you haven't figured out their gimmicks, like Capra Demon or Hellkite Dragon.

Most difficult the first time you play?
>Ancient Dragon, Capra Demon, Artorias
Most difficult after you've gotten good at the game?
>Manus

Easiest the first time you play?
>Covetous Demon, Pinwheel
Easiest after you've figured out the game?
>Bed of Chaos, Royal Rat Vanguard, Prowling Magus, Dragonrider

>>163859015
The easiest way to go through that foggy part is hug left wall, meet the friendly npc that sits up hill and then continue hugging left side to the end. It's not that long of an area.

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>>163859313
it has utter shit parry frames

>>163858950
>>163854202

i just want dancer to super smash me with that ass and while i'm stuck in between the cheeks she will crush me by flexing

why isn't this a phase 2 attack?

>>163859876
>>163859015
Use a torch (like the game was intended for) to see things through the fog.

>>163859898
the katana is starting from hold or neutral?

>>163859716
Assuming you 2 hand halberd, you need 21.4 poise to tank every second attack from light weapons and 37.14 for every single one. I doubt you had that much with your robes.

>>163859808
Honestly, if dying to a boss is the only qualifier for difficulty then Bed of chaos is one of the hardest bosses in the entire series because it's extremely rare I can do a run without dying at least once in that encounter no matter how many times I replay dark souls

>>163859808
>Most difficult the first time you play?
Nameless King
>Most difficult after you've gotten good at the game?
Pontiff Sulyvahn
>Easiest the first time you play?
Asylum Demon
>Easiest after you've figured out the game?
Ceaseless Discharge

>>163859898
judging by that pic, is parrying dagger the best for a shitcunt that doesnt react fast?

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>>163859313
I dunno. I guess I got sort of gud.

>>163859808
I refuse to believe that anyone has survived the first encounter with Stray Demon without prior knowledge of the fight. His love for AoE spam combined with the HP loss from fall damage and the sheer shock factor of suddenly being dropped into a boss fight with zero warning is probably the cheapest "gotcha!" death in the game, if not the entire series.

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What did she mean by that?

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>>163858091
it has terrible tryhards but also super cool and talented people

>>163858193

>>163859345
>Bullshit. You have to do them in a mostly fixed order

How is that different than DS1?

Do you honestly think it's easier to play DS1 out of order than DS2?

Jumping down to the gutter or unfreezing rosabeth is WAY easier and more accessible than the Catacombs, Darkroot Basin, or Blighttown were. The latter of which were only possible if you picked the right class...

Stop trying to rationalize it. DS2 is less on rails than DS1 or DS3. Accept that fact. You can still hate DS2, you can still shitpost and talk about how bad it is, but don't act like the game isn't what it is.

>>163860410
>1 handed greatsword
>shield of casul
that was a freebie from the get-go

>>163860632
What is this?

>>163856360
If they had unique armor sets and weapons it would be a decent bossfight.

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>>163859808
>Most difficult the first time you play?
Flamelurker or Manus, definitely.

Or, fuck, the 2Kat from DaS2. I still haven't solo'd them. But, again, I really want to attribute that more to DaS2 being shit.

>Most difficult after you've gotten good at the game?
I mean I guess 2kat still goes here, but honestly Nameless still slaps my shit a lot.

>Easiest the first time you play?
I beat Dragonslayer Armor on my first try and couldn't understand what all the fuss was about, but he has slapped my shit a couple times since so he certainly can be a moderately tough boss.

Overall it's probably the tree dude from DaS3. Wish I could remember his name but honestly I haven't played it in a bit.

>Easiest after you've figured out the game?
I don't think bosses can get much easier than Adjudicator after figuring him out.

>>163860861
It was still a cold read parry with the supposedly shittiest parry tool in the game, but, yeah.

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Can someone show me solid proof that power stancing two rapiers is better than two handing one rapier?
Power stanced rapiers are so slow and consume so much stamina per hit that you may aswell use a heavy weapon at that point. And the damage multiplier isn't high enough to make up for the lack of speed and dps.
I've been testing, trying to convince myself that power stancing was worth it and I didn't waste those chunks but, it just comes out with less damage than 2 handing EVERY SINGLE TIME.

>>163860657
>pick Master Key
>get ASS and Dragon Crest Shield
>go wherever the fuck I want
That sure did take longer and was significantly harder than having to fight through most of FoFG or all of Heide's Tower and a large amount of No-Man's Wharf after that.

>>163861028
It has the same frames as medium shields, so I would say that's far from shitty.

>>163858091
Bad parts of the Dark Souls community:
>People who started playing DS1 because Bandai convinced them it was "the hardest game ever"
>People who started playing DS1 because 'INVASIONS ARE COOL' and loved the one-sided battles
>DS3 players who have nostalgia goggles for DS1 and hate anything DS2
>DS2 players who only care about PvP and think that PvP balance matters more than game design /graphics/bosses/story, and work hard to minimize all those to justify their opinions

Good parts of Dark Souls community
>Any player who started with Armored Core, Demon Souls, King's Field, or other From Soft titles, so they know the company's bullshit already and are realistically skeptical of the newer games
>DS1/DS2/DS3 players who like the games and don't see anything really wrong with the other titles, and don't claim that they're anything special or that they're some PvP / PvE god
>Actually skilled PvP / PvE lore, video makers, speedrunners, who share their insights and contribute to wikis and youtube and shit

>trying to get cathedral knight greatsword
>2 hrs in
>17 chests and 22 leggings
I'm upset as heck

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>>163861132
>so I would say that's far from shitty.
Well so would I, but that's not what others have said, which is why I said "supposed".

>>163859484
Vincent?

>>163861189
Good parts of any community:
People I agree with

Bad parts of any community:
People I don't agree with

You didn't have to type all that out, anon.

>>163859484
where are crow talons

>>163858428
>What's the most difficult boss fight in all of the Souls games
Toss up between Defiled Amygdala or FRC Pthumerian Descendant.
>Which is the easiest
Twin Dragonriders, they just have no HP and nothing to them to provide any kind of threat at that point.

>>163861324
Good parts of any community
People who are too busy playing the game to spout opinions and try to convince people they're cool

Bad parts of any community:
People who think the game is about agreeing/disagreeing with other people to try and get attention

>>163861246
I could drop it for you, but it's a trash weapon so I don't know.

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Is doing the dlc on ng+2 a really bad idea? Should i roll a new guy?

>>163860183
Bed of Chaos is definitely hard the first time you play. It's one of the easiest bosses once you figure it out though.

>>163860886
someone's idea that will never make it into a game

>>163857280
i hope it's bait too

>>163861059
>Can someone show me solid proof that power stancing two rapiers is better than two handing one rapier?
no because it's not
>Power stanced rapiers are so slow and consume so much stamina per hit
correct
>And the damage multiplier isn't high enough to make up for the lack of speed and dps.
also correct. 2h rapier also gets more poise damage iirc

>>163861695
I did the dlc with shitty stats like 30fth 30dex 20str on ng+2 and was fine

>>163861695
which dlc? if you mean ashes of arandiel, NG+ cycles are a joke in das3 and are barely any stronger

>>163861695

No, the DLC doesn't have a lot of NG scaling.

>>163847907
Yes. The odds are so stacked against invaders that there's no such thing as honorabru. Your job as invader is to be a dickwraith.

>>163861961
>>163861984
>>163862018
Yeah, Its ashes. Good. I didnt want to do a new guy

Because the first time i did the sunken crown i was a dex only build in ng+2.
That sucked.

>>163860657
Don't care.
>unfreezing rosabeth is WAY easier and more accessible than the Catacombs
No it isn't all you have to do is turn around. To unfreeze Rosabeth you have to get through loads of areas and bosses.

>The latter of which were only possible if you picked the right class.
Bullshit. You can get to Quelaag right after the Taurus Demon regardless of whether you have the Master Key.

>Stop trying to rationalize it. DS2 is less on rails than DS1 or DS3. Accept that fact.
No because I'm right and you're wrong. Though I didn't mention DS3 because that is also railed.

>You can still hate DS2, you can still shitpost and talk about how bad it is, but don't act like the game isn't what it is.
Weird because I don't hate DS2 and I'm acting like the game is exactly what it is, rails and all.

GREATEST BUILD IN THE GAME

30 FAITH
40 DEX
SHARP CROW QUILLS

EVEN THE THROWN QUILLS ARE ELECTRIC

>>163851331
>DaS2 fag
>calls DaS2 a shitty game
Anon...

>>163862295
>move 20 fai to dex
>use lightning pine
you'll thank me later

>>163861132
he said shitti-est though, which is accurate as they are infact the slowest to some out

>>163861189
>DS2 players who only care about PvP and think that PvP balance matters more than game design /graphics/bosses/story, and work hard to minimize all those to justify their opinions
even worse
>PVE players who disregard all the PVP improvements DaS2 brought to the table that kept the game despite all the hate alive for over 2 years
PVE barely lasts for 100 hours, PVP for several thousand hours

>>163858217
Duke's Dear Freja isn't a fucking spider you faggot it's body plan is totally different it doesn't even have an abdomen.

Fucking DS2 fags I swear to god

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>>163861934
Thank you.

>>163858428
>Poll: What's the most difficult boss fight in all of the Souls games, in your opinion?
Fume Knight is hardest.

Pinwheel is easiest.

>>163861803
>>163857280
>>163857119

Blacksmith hammer is a pretty good PvE weapon in DS2 though, so I don't see what the meme is.

341 AR and 130 counter. That's stronger than a Claymore at the same stats, and hits faster, so should I get praise for beating a boss using a claymore in DS2?

>>163861189
>DS2 players who only care about PvP
worse: people who spout the the "ds2 is the pvp fag game" meme as though it were an insult when it's clearly just them trying to upboat ds2's terrible fighting mechanics

>>163862287
Not him, but you're retarded.
Warping by design makes the game less on rails than DaS1.

>>163862603
there we go, took long enough

>>163848958
That's before she mutated and the armor became her skin.

>>163862295
>ELECTRIC
someone hasn't farmed their ears

>>163862430
>use dark pine
you'll thank me later

>>163859345
>Bullshit. You have to do them in a mostly fixed order
Are you serious?

>>163862754
Blacksmith hammer is the "OMG LOL LOOKIT HOW EASY THIS BOSS IS I CAN BEAT IT WITH A SHITTY WEAPON" weapon for people who don't know how to read numbers.

Stats-wise, blacksmith hammer is decent in DS2. There are far better hammers/maces, but hammers/maces in general are OP against most bosses, blacksmith is no exception because of it's 130 counter.

>>163853829
This dude with girly voice tries way too hard

>>163863015
but he was electricity on the thrown quills

>>163862848
No it doesn't.

You people should Play Rayman Legends you'd be amazed.

>>163861246
OH AND WHILE I DO THIS I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE FUCKING CUNT IM KILLING CONSTANTLY DIDNT HAVE INFINITE STAMINA TO SPAM ATTACKS 8 TIMES IN A ROW

FUCK MAN

>>163859808
>Most difficult the first time you play?
Knight Artorias

>Most difficult after you've gotten good at the game?
Fume Knight

>Easiest the first time you play?
Pinwheel

>Easiest after you've figured out the game?
Pinwheel

>>163861246
>trying to get cathedral knight greatsword
stop

>>163861246
it's the exact same as ultra greatsword greatsword, and barely looks different, why do you want it?

>>163863054
Yes. mostly

>>163854952
delet

>>163863262
>>163861634
So I guess you don't want it then?

>>163852620
>EmoDragonZ
He or someone pretending to be him came into the thread and they were pissed off that people keep posting his name as a joke because he keeps getting messages from people who don't get the meme when they ask for a psn and someone replies to them with EmoDragonZ. Also the guy is mad careless with his powerword.

>Ippiki9
Berke from /dsg/ fcs.

>>163859484
Why would you put those measurement axes like that? The degree of viability is partially based off of the versatility of the weapon, unless by "viability" you simply mean "viability in an ideal matchup" and in turn are just using "versatility" as a measure of how many ideal matches a weapon has. The problem with that is that everything is super top-tier viable in an ideal matchup since ideally you're fighting someone who's barefisted and naked as far as winning goes. Better to let viability take all matchups into account and compare viability to ease of use/braindeadness or something.

>>163859345
>>163857674

>>163863054
>FFG - Easy
>Heide's - Easy
>Gutter - Moderate
>Shaded woods - Moderate

^ less restrictive than:

>Undead Burg/Parish - Easy
>Catacombs/Tomb of the Giants - FUCKING HARD (also pointless unless you're post anor londo)
>Darkroot Basin - Hard (also pointless unless you're post anor londo)
>Lower undead burg - Hard (also requires a jump or going to undead parish anyway to kill the hellkite dragon)
>Blightown - Hard (also requires speedrunning through valley of the drakes, which is very hard and clearly not meant for first timers)
>New Londo Ruins - VERY hard (also pointless unless you've killed sif first)

DS2 can be accomplished in any order. DS1 can be 'accomplished' in different orders, but you have to go back to those areas after anor londo anyway, and the difficult difference is much wider. DS1 is more on-rails.

>>163859484
>farron GS
>maximum versatility
>when its completely unuseable against anyone decent with a caestus

>>163861513
>Twin Dragonriders
The solo Dragonraper is easier, he can kill himself really easy, lmao.

>>163860886
It was from one of the threads where people were discussing the level connectivity in the souls series.

>>163863690
Also, Darkroot Basin and Blighttown aren't even possible if you didn't get the master key at the beginning, which eliminates the only other path in DS1 that isn't stupidly difficult compared to the 'intended' path.

Whens the luck softcap for extra poison/bleed? 25 luck is getting some pretty good poison/bleed scaling but I'm not sure if 40 nets any good returns.

>>163863690
>Catacombs/Tomb of the Giants - FUCKING HARD

lmao, i went there after getting lost after undead burg first time i played, the skeletons fucking smashed me and i didn't really know why. i managed to get past them somehow into the first bonfire and nearly quit and uninstalled the game right there when my character was stuck in that shithole as i couldn't get to the ladder and out.

>>163863690
>implying having objectives means you're "on rails"
"on rails" means you just lack options
by your reasoning we should be praising minecraft as super off rails

>pointless
a first time player wouldn't know, and the loot is often worth it anyway

>>163863985
what am i looking at

>>163862571
>pvp is the only aspect of these games we should care about sine everything else about ds2 is inexcusable garbage
DaS2 fags

>>163863985
Well, now i know how a dude with a +10 uchi and full meta gear invaded my 40000 sm character yesterday

>>163864259
The shortest possible path to the Agape Ring, which means the absolute lowest possible Soul Memory for PvP. Just DS2 things.

>>163864259
my dick

>>163864264
>not hunched with elbows on knees
not believing it

I don't actually have a copy of DaS1

Can someone detail the moveset of the Silver Knight Straight Sword to me? I'd appreciate it! I only know that it has no stabs whatsoever.

>>163864397
oh, never even knew that shit existed

>>163864264
Are BB fans really this autistic?

>>163864508
>>163864404

>>163864264

Is there continuation?

>>163864497
it's standard except for the r2s. iirc 1hr2-r2 was powerful X forming slashes while 2h was a cross, at all times using a lot of weight into the swing

ONLY A VIETNAM FUCKING SHIT WOULD SAY THAT ITS OK TO TAKE SEVERAL HOURS TO GRIND A SINGLE SHITTY ITEM

>>163864497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ-Ood5xCzE

>>163864356
He could've used CE or a mule.
Let's face it, he most likely did

>>163864834
If you're a mong with 120 item discovery then of course it's gonna take a lot of time.

>>163864264
The fuck is Erich Zann

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>>163859808
Hellkite isn't a boss, it's an area hazard.

>>163847108
I know this shit is subjective but despite DeS being good, it's nowhere near BB quality at least today. First impressions maybe, but as far as pure gameplay value goes, it's

BB=/>DaS1 > DaS3 > DeS > DaS2

That said, I think even DaS2 is a good game.

Since that guy's pol inspired some discussion/shitflinging

What's the most difficult area/zone in the games?

>>163865046
I am adjusting their ratings based on when they came out and what other games on the market were like.

>>163865009
CHING CHONG

PING PONG

>>163864834
Hope you never have to play Monster Hunter

>>163864838
>tfw jewtube wont fucking load

I hate google so much. I refuse to watch shitty, intrusive ads and they ream me for it.

>>163863690
>Muh easyness.
Don't care. Goalpost move.

>Shaded woods.
Bullshit. Can't get there when you are implying you can

>Catacombs(pointless)
Bullshit. Get stuff there, e.g extra estus
>Catacombs are harder than the gutter and shaded woods
Bullshit

>Darkroot Basin (pointless)
Bullshit. Go there to see Kaathe, go there as a shortcut to Quellag, go there to get items.
>Darkroot Basin harder than shaded woods
Bullshit

>Lower undead burg
Bullshit. There is only one Undead Burg, it has two bosses.
>going to undead parish anyway to kill the hellkite dragon
Don't need to kill the Hellkite Dragon to get the basement key.

>Blightown- Hard
Maybe through the front enterance but not through the back.

>New Londo Ruins (Pointless)
Bullshit. Another Quelaag shortcut, items, curse cure.

>DS2 can be accomplished in any order.
>DS1 is more on-rails.
It doesn't matter how many times you say it DaS2 fag, its still BULLSHIT

>>163865093
Completely subjective even more so than bosses since with bosses you can usually define what part of the bossfight is hard.

Define whether you mean hard to run through or the intended kill all enemies-run?

Pure Black Valley of Defilement is a pretty good contender and Horsedick valley from DaS2.

>>163865332
The burgs are counted as separate invasion zones, thus, they are different areas.

>>163858428
>Most difficult for me:
Ornstein & Smough
Kalameet

>Easiest:
Pinwheel

Currently playing bloodborne, I just beat the shadows of yharnam and so far no boss has been particularly difficult (or easy for that matter).

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>>163864834
Does this trigger you?

>>163865093
>What's the most difficult area/zone in the games?
I think 5-2 in DeS is pretty much undisputed here, followed by Ivory King's horse rape valley.

>>163865093
I'd say Blighttown, even if it was more maddening than hard
>Have to spend forever clearing out the enemies as they can actually do decent damage if they get you
>Get toxic a hundred times from impossible to reach snipers and have to farm those foliage monsters for more purple moss
>Easy to get overwhelmed with enemies on tiny ledges/platforms
>Those fucking mosquitoes towards the bottom
>Die and you have to spend forever fighting through again
Anor Londo was frustrating because if you fucked up one parry, the silver knights could easily kill you in a couple hits. Made exploring a huge pain since they respawn unlike black knights.

>>163865617
DONT EVEN LIE IT TOOK YOU AT THE VERY LEAST 4 HOURS

>>163865480
They don't have different area title popups. Therefore they are the same area with two bosses.

>>163865698
I never farmed this shitty sword, it just dropped when progressing through the game

>>163865725
Blighttown has no boss then

>>163865661
>Have to
No.

>Get toxic a hundred times
No

>impossible to reach snipers
No.

>have to farm ... for purple moss
Nope.

>Easy to get overwhelmed with enemies
Maybe on the very first catwalk in and the one with the three infected near the midway point.

>Those fucking mosquitoes towards the bottom
Completely ignorable.

>Die and you have to
Nope.

Blighttown was hard, but nowhere near as bad as it sounds like you made it on yourself.

>>163864397
>fire arrows to detonate barrels in lost bastille
>life ring to survive fall in majula
>flexile sentry to access path to lost bastille
>22 vig, no armor for the same
>pharros lockstone to open shortcut in bastille
>fragrant branch at the end of the gutter to unfreeze straid
>detonate barrels to unlock shortcut from incorrect side
>use said shortcut to get the antiquated key
>use said key to open the door
>use lockstone to open shortcut to elevator
>use elevator to get to straid
>unpetrify
>buy ring

Note that you only ever kill two things in this entire run; Dragonrider and Flexile Sentry. That's the absolute lowest possible SM for extended play.

>>163847043
So I finally bought ds3 and I'm wondering is the whip even semi viable in this one? I started as pyromancer but I wouldn't mind restarting or changing my build if it is