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Nexus Edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone.
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released on December 29th.

Official reveal site:
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
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All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872
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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/

Dead: >>163874860
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Why did you remove /hsg/ and card art sites?
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will they add new leaders ?
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>>163899109
MAIDS
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Does anyone else think Urd's character art is based off Belldandy?
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Post a screencap from today and explain it!
Here Sword gets destroyed by barrage!
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>>163899109
the santa hat fits perfectly on Arisa!
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>>163899264
now you get a goliath for free, amazing
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>>163899228

Maid leader the most underappreciated waifu in the game. She doesn't even get a name.
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>>163899264
i love how fitting his name is, gosh how i hate these ungas bungas.
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This is your legendary for tonight
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So what are your predictions for top tier decks in the new expansion fampaitachi
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>when your dailies are fucking shit
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>>163899228

Welcome home, sir!
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>>163899109
>Santa hat on Arisa
Well done.
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will they add new leaders ? or did the gaijin forgot to put that ?
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>>163899228

SPOOKIES

Sigh
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>>163899383

PtP Pascale decks will continue their ascent into godhood.
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Post your new expansion dance.
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>>163899109
>removing the art sites again

this is a shit meme

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
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>>163899497
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>>163899343
She's that reliable card that's always in your deck but you never really think about.

Absolutely perfect effect for a perfect maid
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>>163899487

it's ok, I'm sure you'll get your ghost waifu in a few expansions.
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>>163899228
Should I run 3 fervid soldiers and 2 gunner maid seria or 3 serias and 2 fervids for midsword?
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>>163899383
Dragon will be t1. Not a meme..

People will be complaining about Salamander's Breath within the week.
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>>163899550
So pretty!

I wonder if maids ever married their masters?
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11656 requesting a concede!
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>>163899550

Well, I more meant that Maid Leader is my wife BUT...

She's also an absolute staple of sword decks. I literally don't think I've ever seen a sword deck without a maid.

It's just too good of an insurance card when you aren't drawing commanders.
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>>163899470
>>163899220
answer, please.
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First 5-0 ever on my last arena ticket after sucking massive amounts of dick the previous games. I think this was my first time playing Sword in arena as well. Feels good man.

I had like a constructed deck though. Olivia, Satan, Frontguard, Alexander a bunch of 2 drops and even a banner thrown in, so I got pretty lucky with the draft.
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>>163899625
I'll marry my Maid Leader.

Only the Evolved version though, Unevolved Maid Leader is gross
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>>163899625

I mean considering the power dynamic this happened all the time but could be pretty exploitative and was socially frowned upon.
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>>163899671
thanks luna
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>>163899497
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>>163899754
>Unevolved Maid Leader is gross
>Not appreciating glorious short black hair
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>>163899745
>unga bunga muh swurhd
it doesn't count.
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>>163899109
Who wins between Storm Haven and Elana Haven
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>>163899979
depends on the draws, if avian bishop get bricked in the first two turns is basically lost since elana can just heal the damage and end the match before turn 6.
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>no new leaders
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>>163899497
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Reminder to not play decks with any form of followers, removal or direct damage
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>>163899731
>>163899470
nope
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>>163899979
>dork summoner

Good taste, she's surprisingly useful in Mary decks as a combo piece.
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Now here's the real question:
Did anything get nerfed?
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>>163900161
what ?
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>>163900169
Let me just hop into my time machine and find out.
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Kill Dragoncraft. Put it out of its misery
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>>163900232
how much time it will take ? also take a screenshot of the future.
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>dragoncraft has a tier 1 deck that's fun
>aggro shadow, the poor man's sword, is tier 2
>midrange and control shadow aka the only fun shadow is at the bottom of tier 3
>everyone says dragon is shit and shadowshitters are just memeing because they're not tier 0
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>>163899945
>short hair
>glorious anything
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>>163899264
Dailies in ranked with Dragon in A is a mistake, back to unranked
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>>163899228
>>163899550
I hate this card, it feels like shit to actually play and Banner is boring to start with

>>163900405
Not really sure what this deck is trying to do but I'll happily try it.
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r8 my arena deck
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So am I the only one that thought envybae was a qt gay boy for the first while I was watching her?
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>>163900440

>face dragon
>fun
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>friend is already vialing all his dragon cards
>mfw discard dragon stops being a meme and becomes a tier 1 deck
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>>163900440
FaceDragon is not fun at all and good only in Master
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>>163899264
This is the most efficient game I have ever had with this deck.
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>>163900545
Says it's supposed to prey on PtP Forest, Dshift, and MidSword. Good luck
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Did they announce a time for the maintenance yet?
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is imperial dragoon op?
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>>163900440
Face Dragon is not fucking fun, and I'm the guy that posted this >>163900801. It's only fun against Banner Sword because they can't do shit about Dragonewt Scholar or Trinity Dragon outside of Whole Souled Swing or Demon Strike.

>>163900827
Shit I generally don't play against, no point then.
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>>163900867

Yes, 10 days ago at the same time the jp official tweeter did.
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So how about that forest doge?
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>>163900941
>dec 28
That seems rather premature.
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>>163900956
Excuse me for being an idiot, but where are people getting these sorts of deck-pics from? OP has nothing on the matter and while a post claimed it was from the main site I failed to find it.
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>>163901027

It's 12am sharp at 29th in nipland, though.
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>>163900454

Listen, you.
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>>163901042
Tweet button
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>>163899264
>the only screenshot I took today was to share a decklist with a friend
welp.
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>>163900867
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>>163900919
Another anon
The only fun i have with FaceDragon is when i topdeck some Mushy
I don't even play this deck in ranked anymore, doesn't work at all for climbing
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>>163901132
Oh, that's surprisingly simple. Thanks anon.
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If you could use cards from 2 classes in a deck what classes would they be?
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>>163901235
forte and albert in stormhaven
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>>163901180
I never ever get to play Mushy, let alone win with it. The only games I ever win are the ones where I can evolve Dragonewt Scholar and keep her on the board for several turns. She's cute.
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>>163901235
Shadow and Haven
Guardian Sun and Mordecai.
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>tfw crafted two forte's a couple weeks ago and literally about to hit the liquify button
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>>163901173
>Data linking feature suspended for iOS

what? why?
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>>163901330
I can't tell where her leotard ends and tail begins.
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>no new leaders
why ?
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>>163899264
Leonidas actually gets shit done for once. Common sense says I should be having Olivia as my one-card wonder instead but fuck that, I prefer making all my cards have the power of something out of an apocalypse deck to win these ridiculous topdeck-war grinds that you inevitably get into with other swords.
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when the epac launches i still need to test things but heres what i have come up with to make dragon great again
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Could I get a concede here?
34139
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Hear the Snomwmen roar
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>>163901357
I bet Apple policy.
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how would you modify this meme deck with RoB cards
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>>163899264

The filename explains everything.

They could have been an animated Forte, Merlin or Otomeme, but no, it's the Mary Sue of the animu.
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>>163901173
I wonder if it's only new emblems for the Rise legends.
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>>163901456
Why don't you play Olivia and Leonidas? I play them both in my Control Sword deck.

In fact, I just finished a duel where I used both of them. Even though Leo got banished. ;_;
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Why do I never see forest in t2? It seems solid.
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>>163901235
The other guy beat me to Shadow and Haven. Guardian Sun-Mordecai and Atomy with amulets seems great.

Shadow would probably be a pretty good answer with any other craft though. You have so many abusable cards held back by the craft limitations in Shadow.
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>maintenance will bring in new emblems/sleeves for January

Guess the two cards, /svg/

inb4 Garuda because year of the chicken
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>>163901820
>no new leaders
???????
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>>163901698
If only she healed your leader as well, she would probably see play in Elana decks.

What a shame. I still play one of her in my Sunlight deck, just for fun. And because I don't want to craft another Odin.
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>>163901698
I have one of those and I have no idea why I haven't dusted it yet. It synergizes with absolutely nothing Haven does. It would have been better off in Swordcraft.

>>163901820
Garuda Emblems and Sleeves are purchasable so it won't be them. It'll probably be something Sword related.
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>>163901820

>Garuda

You idiot. Obviously it is Hamsa
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>>163901173
>10 hour maintenance
>then the 10 hour maintenance starts
>1/3rd of my window to get 4k more points is going to evaporate into thin air
Please don't fucking do this cygames.
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>>163899264
Just a usual day in the gutters of AA0.

I've lost all will to play normally.
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>>163901820
Cygames please Charon sleeves please.
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opinions?
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.2.625lm.625lm.625lm.5-HbC.5-HbC.5-HbC.625lc.625lc.625lc.628AI.628AI.628AI.5-HbM.5-HbM.5-HbM.628BE.628BE.628BE.69pNo.69pNo.69pNo.6923Y.6923Y.6923Y.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-K1I.69mSm.69mSm.69mSm.628B4.628B4.628B4.65vtg.65vtg.65vtg.fp1Qo.62BLa.62BLa.62BLa
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>>163901352
Think about the dailies
My regret wasn't crafting Forte, was buying the leader
500 rupies wasted on a class i am playing for dailies in unranked and nothing else for now
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>>163902049
>wanting an arena hag sleeve when we could have Death's Breath instead
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>>163901753
Because it's a deck that's otherwise built to god-curve out in order to have a chance at beating the likes of PtP Forest and D-Shaft without compromising the Mid-Sword mirror (Aurelia in response to Floral followed by Otohime into Sage is usually enough to just completely BTFO people), and while like I said I used to have Olivia for those longer games I'll have those games where I get excited at topdecking her only for it to be followed up with pulling Vanguard and Lancer or something else from my low curve and just feel very sad.

Leonidas, on the other hand, is a bigass minion in of himself with Last Word: "I FUCKING WIN" and while I've certainly had my games where I go "Fuck, I wish this was a 6/6 with rush" I love the big lug too much to cut him.
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>>163902259

>arena hag

t. An idiot who doesn't play shadow seriously

It's hard to answer a turn 5 E-Charon unless you are dragon.
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>May going 2 times on the Mushu
You can't keep doing this bullshit
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>>163902138
>not buying the whole pack
You deserve it for being an idiot. The game buries you in rupies.
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>>163902290
Oh, I see. I thought you were playing a control deck.

Anyway, do you really prefer Fencer over Pompous Princess? I feel like thinning the deck and filling the field is usually more useful than the little buff from Fencer.
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>>163902389
Elf bounced same may 7 times on me yesterday.
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>>163902259
>Arena Hag
Charon is a strong play in constructed too. The problem is that Shadow's shadow generation fucking sucks and they have meager card quality in general. RoB will help a good deal.
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>>163902530
>shadow generation fucking sucks
Also banishes.
Charon against haven gets cucked out of ability to summon lich on 5 way too fucking often.
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>debating crushing all of my cards
>ALL OF THEM
>other than Haven and Sword
>in order to actually make playable fucking decks because I can't get any fucking Legendaries I need

Fuck these goddamn tourney level decks and their like 20 fucking Legendary bullshit. Every motherfucker I've found in B rank so far seems to have a fucking full play set of every Legend they need and I can't even get one.
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>Sword mirror
>Turn 4-6 is just them trading floral fencers for board control
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I'm curious, but what sites do you people turn to for strategies, mulligan in particular?

>inb4 just a curve that disregards matchup
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>>163902734
>he didn't reroll
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>>163902734
Just dust shadow and see how many vials you get. You will regret nothing.
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>>163902781
my common sense
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>>163902530
The expansion offered nothing in terms of shadow generation though, and you can't call her a "strong" play in constructed when the class fucking sucks in constructed.
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>>163902504
It's just 4 followers on board and she goes 2 times in row on Mushu
Won only because elf board was full without space for a ward or PtP at 31 Shadows and finally after 12 turns i draw a Forte
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Which pre-builts are you guys buying, if any?
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>Go to twich tv
>Check the first shadowverse stream
>Is a tranny

is there any good normal shadowverse streamer to watch?
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>>163902765
>STRENGTH AND BEAUTY
>FLORAL FLURRY
>STRENGTH AND BEAUTY
>FLORAL FLURRY
>STRENGTH AND BEAUTY
>FLORAL FLURRY
>STRENGTH AND BEAUTY
>FLORAL FLURRY
>STRENGTH AND BEAUTY
>FLORAL FLURRY
>...
>I should have foreseen this!
Going second is balanced.
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>>163902781
GameAi and Jap gibberish site.

I wish there were a decent English resource floating around.
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>>163902530

You mean the expansion where she got replaced by the new hot stuff who is strong, beautiful and cute, all rolled up in one little package? Precisely.
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Anyone have the really cute vampy picture of her smiling? I just reached AA0 and want to send that pic real quick to a chat.
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>>163902946
More like Swordcraft is boring, brainless bullshit
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>>163902474
While I'll admit Fencer is pretty garbage off-curve (If you actually can't land the buff on curve then you've got bigger problems) when ON curve her "little buff" lets Vanguard trade into 2/2s without even dying, 1/1s trade up into those 2/2s, and 2/2s to trade favorably against 2/2s or maybe even a 2/3. That's amazing for grabbing hold of the board by the balls in the opening turns before either side can evo and have the advantage going into said evo turns, which is far more valuable to me than just reducing the risk of a bad draw by a small margin or synergizing with a card that isn't coming out until turn 6 or 7.

That said, I'm thinking I'll just cut her and Vanguard from the list entirely once the expansion hits, 3 mana 3/2 with rush fits her role just fine without compromising Maid Leader's "Fanfare: Pull one of your best cards from your deck" and that sad little 1 mana 1/2 just doesn't have much reason to exist otherwise.
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>>163902530
I like the Rise support for Shadow but Charon's dead for the next 3 months while Feena's floating around.
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>>163903057
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>>163902826

Sad part is I'd probably still not walk away with enough bottles to make a full set for Sword, let alone Haven.
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So the expac comes out tomorrow night?
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>>163900123
What is that shit?
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>>163903005
>strong, beautiful and cute, all rolled up in one little package
So, what you're saying is, she has strength and beauty together?
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>>163902465
Why i should buy the whole leader pack?
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>>163901027
You talk like a premature ejaculator.
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>>163903005
Feena isn't cute at all but she probably will be a more useful card in general. Problem is there aren't really any 2 drops worth shit midgame half of the time unless you can pull off a mummy combo or pop lurching.

>>163902847
>Sexton
>Stronger Last Words cards in Lurching Corpse and Attendant of Night
>More proactive way of setting LW off and controlling the board in the form of Necroassassin
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>>163899516
Wait, why do they keep removing it? Considering on e of the biggest aspects of the game is it's art, this would seem pretty important. Especially since this game has such close ties to SnB.
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>>163902359
t. D0 rank, picking the second most prevalent card in the entire class over something that got played once in a meme deck that isn't even competitively viable

Also Breath has much better art for a cardback.
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>>163903060
I agree with Blitz Lancer. I'm thinking of replacing Pompous with her once the expansion hits in my Midsword as well. Searching those cards with Maid Leader is always the worst.

Could you see Monika finding her way into the deck as well? She seems like a decent drop for when you go first and have to evolve after your opponent.
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>>163903353

You still thin up your deck by removing one 2PP from your potential topdeck.

A 5/6 + 2/2 board on turn 5 is nothing to sneeze at.

>>163903426

Yeah right, that CCS variant with 74% winrate over 300+ games must be a hoax.

>implying Charon doesn't have a better animated version

I like DoB, but it's you starting all the shit by dissing Charon here.
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Anons please help. I want to get the sleeves but I missed most of the month and I have to get like 6k points more to get the final sleeve. The problem is that every second game is Haven and all they do is heal and that shit takes forever. Their entire game is stalling and if I lose I just wasted a lot of time and if I win I still wasted a lot of time trying to get that 100 points. The last game I played was against Dshift and the man took so long for his moves I swear he was sitting there with a piece and paper trying to add up damage for his final combo.
What's a really fast deck in this game? I want to end my games fast, either by rushing down the enemy or if I can't kill them, just by dying fast as a result. I'd rather have a specific deck recommended too, because I'm trash at creating decks. Low price would be a bonus too because I'm not sitting on all that many vials.
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>>163903394
Probably because of retards like you.
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>>163903353
>Feena isn't cute
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>>163903560
The age old answer everyone gives, banner.
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>>163903560
bat aggro goes all in and dies the fastest possible deaths if it can't kill straight up
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>>163903560
Wow fuck formatting looks like shit.
Short version: Please recommend me a deck that ends games fast and if I can't kill a nigga fast then I should just fucking die.
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>>163903353
>sexton
dies to everything
>last words
gets banished
>necroassassin
Exact same weaknesses as Urd.

What do any of those things have to do with shadow generation anyway? Have you ever even played 2/2 spartoi against Haven? That'll be your Sexton in 9/10 games. The other 1/10 it'll actually be worse since it'll eat a hawk and you won't get a fanfare shadow from it.
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>>163903541
>300 games
Wow it's fucking nothing. Show me some Charon tournament wins.
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>>163903426
As a Shadow player I don't want Charon or Death's Breath for a card back. I'd rather it be Lord of the Flies. Your waifus can fuck off.

>>163903541
A 6/7+4/4 is much more potent on board. The deck thinning of Feena along with not using Shadows are the key perks here. Hell I could even imagine using both, but Charon has a clear upside over Feena with some tradeoff, it's not so cut and dry.
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>>163903723

aggro blood is the fastest, brittlest, deck in the game
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>>163903723
Aggro bat. Can kill as fast as turn 4 if you use flowerbed, if not around 5-7 after that you are fucked usually.
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>>163903642
>>163903689
Alright, here goes nothing then, hopefully I can fit all these games in before the sleeves expire, thanks anons.
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Why tiny bats and a class who literally kill himself in sadistic moans are more fun than Dragons?
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>>163883345
>>163883162
Poor Luna player.
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>>163903518
Nah, Albert is going to be a must have for every Sword deck along with Aurelia and 6 cards is pretty crowded as it is at the 5 mana slot. Besides, never really been fond of cards that read "Either you evolve my ass or all I am is a vanilla minion on curve", it's why I'm so eager to replace Floral with Amelia who gets the same sort of value just straight up without playing into Aurelia in a mirror match (Plus a 5/6 can do a lot of work in a world where most evolved 4s are 4/5s) and Jeno who's built in rush means he can actually be fucking played going first without it just being a way to hand evolve value over to your opponent like an idiot.
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>>163903826
Legendaries obviously don't count, otherwise Atomeme would be the only choice.
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Concede for me please
19342
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>>163903859
>>163903857
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/aggro-bat-bloodcraft-gamepress
Is this one good or is there a better one to craft?
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>>163903394
Because anons like >>163903568 and the thread's OP can't physically achieve an erection anymore unless they're causing temporary and mediocre problems for others on a mongolian basket-weaving board. Don't try to talk them out of it, just try to keep the sites on hand for when they get removed so people can still find and use them.
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>>163903728
I don't think you understand how Sexton works. I also don't think you realize that playing him on curve is not mandatory.
>What does this have to do with Shadow generation?
Them fucking dying in the first place.
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>got a 4 win t2 with rune
>could of been 5 but my internet died while I was about to win the 1st match
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>>163903815

>hur dur those numbers are nothing

Here's the last (you). Go fuck off somewhere else.

>>163903826

That 6 Shadow requirement really hurts a consistent turn 5 Charon play, though. You will need a dead Spartoi Soldier at the very least to ensure that happening.
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>>163904008
Didn't look at the deck but gamepress decks are generally not close to optimized
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>>163903990
Thx anon
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>>163903939
>tfw gpu isn't crashing but gpa actually is
At least I have this weeb version of HS to play
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>21 decks opened and still no legendary
Oh come on.
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>>163904105
Poop. Is there a better place to grab a deck from? I don't want to make my own because I can't into card games and last 2 times I tried to build a deck it ended in 30+ loss streaks and getting laughed out of the general.
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>>163903964
Are you planning to replace all of your Floral Fencers with Amelia?

One of the reasons I think Floral is so good is because, unlike most common 4 drops, she can be evolved on an empty field and her effect is still works. Amelia requires your opponent to have 3 cards on the field in order to get value. I can see myself playing 1 or 2 of her, but I don't see her replacing Floral in any decks.
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>>163904095
>You will need a dead Spartoi Soldier at the very least to ensure that happening.
Necroassassin is a good card and I really hope people will enjoy adding it to their decks.
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>tfw bought a ps4 so I haven't done my dailies in over 3 weeks
At least I get 10 free packs
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>>163904226
this one is good http://game-ai.jp/
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>>163904025
Even I can tell that you seems to be the only one causing problems here, every time.
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>>163903568
People that use the sites that are related to Shadowverse, which this is general is for?
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>>163904050
>durr derp my 2 mana 2/2 with no defensive effect is going to live long enough to capitalize on the anti-banish effect

Skull Beast being banishable is not relevant to the Haven matchup, and it's the only thing Sexton will be able to reliably protect.
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>>163904405
Yes. If you play shadowverse then you're the cancer killing shadowverse.
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>>163903057
It's just that FF is both the instigator and remedy for the same situation depending on whose side you're on.
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>>163904518
Or you could play him before an evolve turn? Shit if you go second, evolving a dude onboard already, then dropping Dark Conjurer and Sexton is a perfectly feasible scenario.
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>>163904095
>confronted with the fact that Charon is unplayable in any actual competitive environment
>immediately quits the discussion
Why are people such massive autists about a meme card? Is she popular in the other games or something?
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Should you wait with buying a premade deck until the meta has stabilized enough to know which crafts are viable?
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>was 200 points away from master
>now 1k points away from master

I can't make it I guess. I hope every master playing discard dragon after patch so I can get free win.
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>>163904390
>shit gets removed from OP
>I post it back as a reply
>"actually you're the one causing problems"

Yes, you're right, I am causing (You) problems. Fuck off with your forced meme of deleting useful content and stop trying to act like I'm somehow the only one who cares, because a lot of the time it's not me who's calling out your shit.
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>>163904771
Waifu card. I'm >>163902530 and I don't even like Charon, I just don't think she's total shit.
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>>163904230
Amelia is too conditional to replace fencer.

But she's good because she helps improve sword's 4drops - literally no other sword 4drop is good enough to run.
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>>163904763
Oh yes, playing a bunch of 2-drops against Haven that's about to hit evolve is exactly what Shadow wants to do. I can see it now, getting those 6 shadows in time to evolve Charon on 5 to punish the inevitable bald priest, then getting balded again together with a second Beastcaller Aria. That's exactly how I see myself winning against Haven.
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Is it true that Ramp Dragon is secret T1 right now?
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>>163904906
>>163904230
Amelia is a 4 drop to curve into when going first.
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>>163904390
Just ignore him. If he wants he'll add it back in when he stalks the thread to make a new one.

Considering we've went several threads before with the links removed it's not a big enough issue to argue about.
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I'm running a banner sword, what nice cards will I add once the expansion drops?

Is the new Saber good for banner or should I just spend my gold trying to get me Aurelia if I'm planning to go midrange?
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>>163904314
What games you've been playing senpai?
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>>163904906
I feel like Amelia is gonna work best in the Sword mirror when going first. Or just when going first in general.
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>>163904983

I guess silver paladin amelie and albert levin saber
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>>163904868
Nobody said she's shit though, just that she's worse than Breath (true) and much more prevalent in Arena than Constructed (also true).
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>>163905016
>both commanders

I bet you run avant blader too, faggot.
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>>163904230
You're not wrong there, I'll give you that, but it is INCREDIBLY rare for there to be absolutely nothing on your opponent's side on-curve going second (Or otherwise be removable with what you have on board). Assuming you're trading into their 3 mana 2/3 or 3/2 suddenly cards like Baldy, Siegfried/Dragon Warrior, or Wardrobe Raider to be able to just ruin your day by surviving with 3HP against your lonely little 1/1 token and then you're forced back to square 1 in taking control of the board. If this is Off curve then all I can say is that I feel incredibly sad evolving a 4 mana minion instead of Sage or Otohime or Aurelia, and spending both a card AND an Evo just to "make an okay board" only for it to get removed is such a waste of an evolution point.

Amelia, on the other hand, will give you that 2 mana 2/2 regardless of whether you evo or not so that's getting value either way in terms of card advantage, and honestly if people can't seem to play around Aurelia they probably won't be playing around Amelia either. I'll be running either 3 of her and 2 of Jeno or the other way around as a way to take advantage of the extra space cutting Vanguard'll give. It's not JUST Amelia replacing Floral, it's Jeno doing half of what you're always trying to do with Floral without using an evolve while Amelia does the other half ALSO without an evolve and with better stats on both sides if you do end up using it.

Also, on a lesser thought, I'll try cutting Fervid since my earliest Commander at that point in my list is a 4 mana card that gets extra value if your opponent has control of the board. The new Samurai looks pretty sick, Fighter on curve is still Fighter on curve and bane is nothing to sneeze at for making it still pull its weight later in the game.
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>>163905094

I don't run sword I just heard they might be a good aggro setup. Calm down, Alex Jones
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>>163904858
>my
Do you mean (You)? Because I'm farly sure you're the one falseflagging as the OP.
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>>163904771

So why don't you give me a shadow list that wins tournament with DoB? Right, there isn't any shadow players.

What now, einstein?
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>>163905120
Also, nothing feels worse than playing Floral evo going second only for it to have given your opponent a 7/8 untargetable ward with rush, and as I said neither Amelia or Jeno do this to you.
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>>163904806
my plan is to buy a premade forest craft deck and some new packs and experiment on ladder with the new cards
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>>163905032

Well, guess who called her an arena hag when 7 master players agreed that she wins games against Forest? Right, a silly nameless anon who will say he is a master player.
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>>163905159
Every pre-DE tournament.
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>>163905032
There are situations where Charon is better than Breath and vice versa, however. Charon is basically removal that puts down two threats. Death's Breath, while strong, does not necessaryly have the potential offensive presence of Charon, and Charon can come out earlier. She IS more prevalent in Arena, just not hopeless elsewhere.

>>163904942
I mean, that play guarantees you at least 4 Shadows that can go towards a Phantom Howl or Charon or whatever. You seem to have this mindset that Haven is unstoppable and that simply is not the case.
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>>163905339
>still no win rates
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>>163905145
Wait, what? Why would I be claiming to be the OP when my entire point is that the OP is a basket of flaccid dicks for taking shit out that people have already voiced a desire to keep in? I can't tell if you've horribly misread my post or if you're just fucking with me.

>>163904979
I've only ever made the thread like 3 times in the entire history of /svg/, and only one of those was putting the art sites back in. 99% of the time it's other anons who care enough to do it. I'm begging you at this point, pleading even, to please stop forcing the "everyone who believes X is only one person" meme.
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>>163905316
>7 master players
>Out of several hundred

wew
You're like that guy who said dirtrune was a top tier deck because some guy grinded to master and beyond with it.
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>They fixed the spectator mode
finally
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anyone know the maint schedule for EST?
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>>163905316
Big wads of stats early on beat forest, yes. Atomeme accomplishes the exact same thing, is he a good card now too?
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>>163905487
>dies to DoD

No.
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>>163905487
her effect is shit compared to maiden so no
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When your internet is fine but the server says connection unstable.
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>Connection unstable as the opponent is about to lose
Fucking hackers desu sempai.
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>>163905145
Reminder not to give him attention and easy (You)'s for shitting up the thread.

>>163905339
The thing is that charon is a pretty shitty card without the 6 shadows that you won't get every game. It's fine to run 1 of her, but anymore and she competes with death's breath.
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>>163901436
where are you getting this from?
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>>163905574
just happened to me too
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Fuck this shit.
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>>163905541
>>163905565
Obviously she's not as good as the mentor...
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>>163905604
>>163905574

And I'm going 3 - 2 in Take 2 when I had an easy 4 - 1.

Thanks Cygames.
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>>163905574
same here, was one game away from ranking up too
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>>163905574
>I'm not the only one
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>>163905574
FUCKING SAME
AAAAAAAAAA
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Does this mean free packs???
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>>163905391
I never mentioned win rates? You have me confused with another, that was not something I brought to the table.

>>163905583
A lot of Necromancy cards suck without Shadows, that's the problem with Shadow in the first place. Charon is not a 3 of card, that's dumb as fuck.
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>>163905574
>>163905581
>>163905604
>>163905614
>>163905641
>>163905643
>>163905668
Same thing just happened to me, except for some reason it gave me the win. Did the servers drop into maintenance early or something?
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>>163905691

This is the second time in less than a day so it would be a nice gesture.
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>>163905532

The problem with atomeme is that you ditch the rest of your board while you put down 2 big followers with Charon? I don't follow you here.
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>3 more months before dirtrune might become good
I just want to have fun with golems.
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>finally make it back to A1
>get matched up with an AA player 13000 points above me
>next game connection issues for instant loss
I didn't want it anyways.
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>>163905714
You're trying to argue that a card is good without posting winrates.
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free.....

FREE!?!?
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>>163905691
It better
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>>163905753

You should try this PtP Pascale Craft deck if you have three ancient alchemists. It's fire.
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>>163905339
>There are situations where Charon is better than Breath and vice versa
Literally any 2 cards in any card game fit this description, yet a Charonfag will announce it like it's a crucial piece of knowledge that nobody else is aware of.

>She IS more prevalent in Arena, just not hopeless elsewhere.
So you're literally agreeing with the original post. What the fuck was the point of this entire autistic argument?
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>>163905583
reminder not to shit up the thread by vandalizing the OP so this crap isn't an issue to begin with
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i was about to get my first 5-0 as forestcraft

cygames please just let me have this
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>facing a sword cuck in his masters trials
please god let the draws be good
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>>163905805

Not that anon, but I can't voice out my opinion based on my experience in AA rank when someone called her being only useful in arena only? That's a rich one, anon.
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>>163905793
Which one? I'm at 2 alchemists but it's easy to craft one.
Running satan for my wincon but he's almost never useful
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>>163905732
We don't really get free packs anymore aside from expansion ones.

Back in the good old days they gave packs out like candy.

>Maintenance?
>Free packs

>Extended maintenance?
>Free packs

>We're feeling generous
>Free packs

>>163905714
Charon sucks particularly hard without shadows. A single big body is pretty much always worse than multiple smaller bodies in Shadowcraft for several reasons.
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>>163905985
>Back in the good old days
>Game has been out for 6 months
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>>163905805
This was an argument between 3 or 4 of us and I fell right in the middle. People will argue up and down in Charon's favor because they want to fuck her and won't shut up about it, I wish they'd jack off quietly. I was just trying to play Devil's Advocate and evaluate the card on its own merits.
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>>163906113
Who is this fluid druidess who will have back problems later in life?
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Post yfw Cygames will take more then 10 hour to finish the update.
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>tfw nothing to do during maintenance
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>>163906179
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>>163905939
>second time i've cucked someone in their master trial
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>>163905753
It's already a pretty decent deck, got a solid early and mid game so all they lack is a win condition which Bahamut may provide
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>>163906225
I want her to smoke my vampire dick instead.
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>>163906221
1 fap to arisa
2 fap to erika
3 fap to isabelle
4 fap to vampy
5 fap to forte
6 fap to eris
7 fap to luna
8 fap to magisa
9 fap to otohime
0 fap to rowen
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>>163906363

rolling to be quite honest with you familia
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Do you guys think tempo/ptp forest will still be t1 after the expansion?
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>>163905583
Is that to this post or?
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>>163906363
I guard
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>>163906432

>same old list with nothing much changed with perhaps Maahes replacing a copy of Tia and a Lily or two

It's certainly here to stay.
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>>163906291
Meanwhile you will stuck for eternity in AA for playing control shit. I hope you queue into a fucking d shift control shitter.
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>>163906363
H-Hear
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>>163906363
>>163906221
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>>163905970

I can't find a deck list but I've been getting wrecked by Japanese players with this deck. It's kind of like classic pascalecraft but no Olivias and they drop some of the other staple cards to throw in some Levi's some, altered fates, some fates hands and some kaleidos.

Pretty sure it doesnt run Unica and I think maybe it drops some of the earth rite amulets? Wish I could find a deck list.
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>Clash - the new mechanic from RoB
>only 4 out of 105 cards have it

What does Cygames mean by this?

Where the fuck is that "Clash: Summon a skeleton" card?
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What happens if you fail a trial by the way? I never failed one and I'm just curious to know what happens if you do.
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>>163906419
>>163906363

OK OK OK OK OK OK
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>>163906518
>tfw literally queue'd up against a master dshift right after
>didn't draw any early game shit
fuck you salty sword cuck
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Anons help, I don't have the vials to craft forts or more vampy's, but I can craft anything silver and below. Anything I should switch out?
Not Pictured are:
3 Dance of Deaths
1 Bloody Mary
3 Imp Lancers
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>>163905724
>JUST got into B2
>barely enough points to eat 2 losses IF I don't get hit with -70pts twice
>first loss due to some pure fucking bullshit and my hand being shit
>2nd lol d/c just like all of these other Anon's

Can someone explain why in the FLYING FAGGOTY FUCK you lose MORE points for losing to someone with MORE points than you in the first place?

I can lose to some shitter with 3k less points than me and only get chipped for 30, but some mega-cock with thousands higher than me can shit all over me with his faggoty top tier tourney deck and I bite -70pt loss?

What fucking retard designed this shit? You're supposed to lose MORE for losing to someone with less points than you, not lose more for losing to someone who obviously is doing a shitton better than you.
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>>163906363
Glory be!
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>>163906615
you reset from the start of your rank
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>>163906615

You get sent back to 0 rank.
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>>163906650
>tfw 5 days ago I was in 500 points range away from master trial
>Every single final boss is a control cuck that just deny me from master trials every time
>Had to stop playing the game for a day since I cannot handle the pressure
>luckily the next day I just queue into 2 d shifts and finally get my trial done
Fuck you too control cuck
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>>163906886

Control decks are your punishment for laying ungacraft
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>>163906615
You're infinitely in your trials I believe. You don't stop until you pass.
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>>163906793
>>163906863
So if you fail the trial at A3, you get sent all the way back to A0? Holy shit, that's cruel.
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>>163906693

Are you retarded ?
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>>163906793
oh so that's how you can sandbag
nice to know
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>>163906973

It's just a joke. That would be cool tho, wouldn't it?
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>>163906989
Yeah, fastest way to sandbag is to go to trials and then lose them on purpose.
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>>163906978

Never played a fighting game, or any sort of game with a point based rankup system before, have you?

Higher rank points guy loses to lower points guy=Massive point loss/tiny points gain if they win.

Lower points guy loses to higher points guy=Tiny points loss/massive points gain if they win.

Go look at fighting game threads to see the salt.
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>>163906970
D shift, seraph and ptp is your punishment for playing a deck made for basement dweller NEET
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>>163906685
I would cut the bloody mary and blood pact for demonic storms. Also midnight vampire is kinda shitty but considering your budget options, I think it's fine maybe even add a barrage if enough elves and sword is in your way.
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>>163907162
>Every fighting games is SFV
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>>163907176

I just play Seraph because nothing gives me a troll boner like popping that turn 9 Seraph when I'm losing.

If you hate humanity and want them to suffer, Seraph is the deck for you.
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>>163907162

That's how it works in SV, you're a fucking retard
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>When swordcucks use Odin to banish my Seraph but I have two more
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>>163902734
Just reroll muh mans, start fresh and be on the winning side. You have NOTHING to lose.
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>>163907309
>not playing dudes on curve

He didn't unga bunga enough.
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>>163907040
damn, now i want to sandbag instead of climbing
but to reach 100k i need to play a lot
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>>163907291
I want to play that deck too but I just got fucking dumpstered everytime by tempo forest and mid sword. Just when I thought it's the right time to drop seraph, they just topdeck stupid shit like sage commander, cynthia, roach, and fucking alwida.
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>>163907309
>Using more than 2 in a deck.
How often do you brick?
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>>163902946
What if going second gave you a turn 4 evo that's blue that doesn't activate effects, balanced?
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>>163907309
>Control sword losing to Seraph
>Pepe
Like pottery
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>>163907203
Midnight Vampire got me a little mileage when I'm lucky enough to draw enough bats at the start, and like you said, for the budget I don't have that many options.
I'll cut the pact and mary, but since I don't see demonic storms anywhere I'm assuming it's a campaign card, time to do some of that.
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>>163907463
stop avatarfagging
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>>163906615
You get sent to the Shadow Realm
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>>163907463

Yeah Cynthia is the worst.

You gave to make sure that you have at least 15 HP minus whatever damage the enemy has on the board before you drop Seraph. also, don't drop Seraph unless you have three dogmas/prayers or enough themis to just repeatedly clear their board.
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>>163903560
Storm/Haven well in my rank atleast it's good.
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>>163905985
>A single big body is pretty much always worse than multiple smaller bodies in Shadowcraft

Not after the expansion. Death Breath is great but it is going to be even easier to remove in one card now. Charon gives you a 2 body 10/11 which is a great answer to turn 4 evo and something really awesome for pushing the tempo.
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>>163907689

Deck list? I've been thinking of trying a Storm deck.
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>>163907689
I'm in B as well and you are part of my problem. I don't care if Haven is good, the problem is that win or lose, the game takes forever with healing, and I don't have that much time to win those sleeves anymore.
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>>163907915

>you are part of my problem

Not him but get fucking good
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>>163907162

If you are fighting someone lower or same rank as you, you get 100 or lose 100.

If you are fighting someone higher rank than you, you get 150 or lose 70.
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>>163907626
Baiting for this exact response. Thanks for the (You's) though.

>>163907675
Do you have a decklist? I want to try it in lower master since I'm pretty much bored playing tempo and midsword. I'm running the elana hybrid and I find it underwhelming against tempo/midrange and d shift just make me want to kill myself.
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>>163907915
Stormhaven runs no healing cards though.
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Soon
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>>163907947
Hello yes, please follow the chain of replies.
My problem is not "waa this class is too broken", my problems was that games take too long with healing and dshift. I'm not saying anything about how good any class is.
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Give me a good D-shift deck please
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>>163906363
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>>163907838
3x themis 1x Gabriel aren't standard but they work.
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>(You)s are gone
WHY
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>>163908149
>every single card draw card in rune/neutral
>d-shift
>flamefucker
>every single direct damage spell in rune

Enjoy your solitaire you fucking faggot.
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Bets on how long the maintenance will be?
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>>163908149
Levi
Dshift
Summon Iceform
Firechain
Summon twosome
Remi and Rami
Multipart expieriment
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54214

private match can trade wins or just leave or w/e
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>>163908210
My last two digits.
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>>163908210
20 hours
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>>163908113
stormhaven didnt run any heal except for those "reverse storm bishop" memer on master
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Any shadowbros ever try this dude? UMR states that he's soccermom of shadow, but I just cannot see it.
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>>163908210
Forever since Jap doesn't want filthy gaijin to play their game anymore. They will shut down the steam version and restricting the mobile app for Japanese only.
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>>163908408 (You)
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>>163908278
>>163908056
Then ignore me anons, I've just glanced over the storm part once I saw the image.
I haven't faced a single Haven today that wasn't peppering every game with healing, and I've been playing for like 10 hours today already.
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>>163908263
>Yfw Cygames D-Shifts maintenance.
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>>163908408
(you) (you) (you) (you) _me_
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>tfw can no longer search for (you)s.
What is japanese moot doing?
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>>163908408
Instead of (You), replies now having a dotted underline instead of a complete line
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>>163908551
Works for me fucking faggot.
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>>163908175
Oh yeah and if you have urds I'd run those instead of the 2x nuns.
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>>163908557
Prove it.
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>>163908408
I'm feeling generous tonight
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nobody give @163908598 any (you)s
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>>163908598
See

>>163908585
>>163908598
>>163908613

Only the middle one should have a dotted underline for you
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>>163908658

Just call the mod on him, he keeps doing this shit every day
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>>163908679
Bullshit.
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Why are you behave like retards.
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>>163906363
Where is fap to Charon?
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Oh, the (You) are already back
Got scared for a second there
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>>163908778
why are you no english
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>>163908778
Why is your grammar shit? Has a Nip infiltrated our safe space?
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>aggro sword after patch is basically aggro bat with strong late game card, no self damage, brick less and more resource

Totally not biased.
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Give me a (you) to test it out, please.
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>>163908730
F5...
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>>163908862
>Rune now has anti burn card at 4pp with 4 def.
Blood is totally not discriminated by Cygames.
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I wonder if these people are just pretending to be complete fucking idiots or if they are so completely braindead that there is not a hint of irony in these posts.
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>>163908862
>aggro rune after the patch will have more burn than aggro bats
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Is this an okayish suicide black?
Not shown:
3 Imp Lancers
1 Alucard
2 Azrael
1 Revelation
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>>163908862
>two Storm cards and no burn
>basically aggro bat

What did he mean by this?
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Are the servers up or are we still in maintenance
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>>163909012
I wouldn't use blood pact outside of control.
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>>163908168

Rolling for Mordecai
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>>163909120
Maintenance in pacific time, and it's still 27th in PT.
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>>163909120
They didn't even go down yet idiot.
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How does this game compare to YGO duel generation?

Looking for a new card game
keep hearing about this one and hearthstone
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>>163908778
because they are retards ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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HOW MANY HOURS UNTIL RAGE OF BAHAMUT ??
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>>163909210
It's Rise, not Rage
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>>163909210
a lot
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>>163909210
20 HOURS
>>163909243
Rage is more appropriate considering only Dragon and Havencucks would use Bahamut in their deck.
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>>163909129
I just use it since I burn my hand fast and need to replace some of it as possible.
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>>163909202
It's super casual
It's good as long as you don't go into it expecting any depth
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>got more than 3 copies of a legendary

Is there any reason to keep the 4th copy around? Is Cygames a company that will come up with something like 3 copies for 1 animated copies in the future?
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>>163909202
YGO veteran here, you're right at home. Just try it you'll insta love it.
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>New day
>Checks calender
>Dec 28

If I don't make it 'till the expansion, tell Erika she looks cute when she smiles...
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>>163906363
give me dork! or vampy or otohime or luna
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>>163909531
Unspent vials are technically wasted so there's an argument to not vial anything until you have something you want to spend the vials on since it's easier to get vials than animated leggos.
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>Less than 24 hours till Rise of Bahamut
>I'm turning 26 in 20 minutes
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>>163909202
I've played on DN from the beginning until it went down and YGOPro still and I love SV. How rulings/effects work feels really similar to YGO. What >>163909550 said
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>>163909627
yeah mate shes right next to me now illl tell her
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>>163909725

Happy birthday anon
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>>163909725
>having a birthday on 28th december
I'm so sorry. Happy birthday.
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>>163908280
I really enjoy running him. Ward with Bane with a fun roadblock.
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>>163908280
Dies to DoD.
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Why are you guys excited about Rise of Bahamut here and in the moment?

I'm excited because I've studied the new cards and have fantastical ideas for new decks to build, but you guys are all netdeckers, soooo.. You're just going to open packs and say "I sure hope people create good decks with these cards that I pulled for me to use!"
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>>163909985
Cry harder.
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>>163909985
>you guys are all netdeckers
[citation needed]
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>>163909985

Enjoy memeing around until you're forced to incorporate the meta like everyone else
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>>163909985
>soooo..
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>>163909985

Post your deck ideas anon, I made this
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>>163909985
I'm going to enjoy beating your hard thought out shitty decks with my netdeck.
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>>163910142
Test, I reply to myself.
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>>163910142
>>163910215
Samefag check.
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>>163910172
Tried making it but the card simulator didn't have 40 ding dongs
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>Nips rated the new RoB cards
>Rune gets on average, better rated cards
>Elf gets the lowest

Will Rune finally have a deck that isn't sub-50% winrate?
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How do we fix dragon?
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>>163909985
my netdeck>your memedeck
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I just got 2 Dracomancer Rites from a single pack. Is that a sign that I need to play discard dragon?
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>>163910304

RING GON
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>>163910357
yup. now vial all cards from the other classes, and go full dragonforce on those scrubs :^)
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>>163910318
Post source?
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>>163910172
Not that faggot but here's the most obvious deck in the meta.
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>163909985
>guaranteed replies the post
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>>163910337
you say that, but I've been ahead of the curve on every card game that I've taken seriously for years.

I was beating the top decks with spell damage crackles + magma bursts and Doomhammer + Rockbiter Weapon in Hearthstone when people were saying "Shaman is the worst class in the game"

I STILL have technology that people haven't caught onto in card games I play.
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>>163910318
The problem with Rune is both of its decks share two big problems - needing good matchups (more DShift than Dirt) and consistency (more Dirt than DShift). Tempo/Aggro will probably have a better matchup spread but I'm just as worried about its consistency even though Levi + Piercing will be an insane tempo swing.
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>>163910318
Moon mans believes in Disco Dragon
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>>163910283
Wow, so Hiro did remove it.
It's kinda sad.
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>16 hours left

I predict a meta where Feena is fucking everywhere.
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>>163910474
go back there
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>>163910437

>3 DoD

Why ?
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>>163910474
Wow... so strong... anon is so cool...
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>>163910318
So much for muh pet class while sword is getting more support in ROB.
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>>163910318

>adds up the 13 cards from RoB and averages it out

Are they fucking serious?
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>>163910437
>Fervid Soldier instead of Samurai
>3 DoDs
Aside from that, do you mind if i stole this?
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>>163910595

You are going to include that bootleg May rejects into your deck and you're going to like them.
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>>163910707
Goblin > May reject. Probably gonna add 2 selwyn command into my tempo deck.
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>>163910543
Dance of Death is there because I'm expecting Ramp Dragon to come back to tier 1. If I'm wrong I'll drop it pretty fast though. This deck should beat everything I'm predicting for the January meta except Midrange Blood which is a complete throw match up, but I don't expect Midrange Blood to be popular.

>>163910621
Honestly, I'm expecting to run into a metric fuckton of similar lists developed by other people. Aggro Sword's pretty popular in Masters and everyone playing Sword is going to building around Albert until he settles. So in other words, please go ahead and share any tech that works out well for you here.
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hehe
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>>163910865

>selwyn command

Pretty sure you mean "Always huffer".
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>>163910898
>Ramp Dragon to come back to tier 1
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22259
Concede s'il-vous-plaît
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>>163910898

What's the midrange blood deck ?
>>
Any stream on?
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>>163910987
OUR GIRL Envybae!
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@163911137
kill yourself
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Anyone wanna play a FT5?
89316
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>>163911198

I'm in a ranked match but I'll come if nobody wants to
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>>163909454
>>163909550
>>163909731
Awesome downloading now


Is it wrong that i got interested because of waifus?
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>>163911239
First come, first served. But, it's late so you'll probably be there first.
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>>163910987
I'm watching the Tung guy play Bantermemes in master
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>>163911269

everyone did
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>>163911269
What other reason would there be?
We all came for the waifus and stayed for the gameplay and waifus
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So should I grind the latter while watching Always Sunny or The Office
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>>163910318
Yes, but at the same time there are some nasty-ass opinions on a lot of cards.

Also their deck building ideas are often somewhat questionable.
Like in their bahamut deck they're saying run wyvern rider eyfas and deathmist dragons.
On its own, each card could be useful in the deck.
But together they have some of the worst negative synergy in the game.
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>>163911342
Always Sunny
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>>163911342
Peep Show
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>>163910952
Thanks Gandalf
>>
Another Take Two match since the other one is full

15968
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>>163911198
what if ft5? best of 5s?
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>>163911342
Always Sunny, obviously.

However, there is a caveat. You have to run a guardian sun satan deck and name it Dayman.
>>
So why do I keep hearing about Atomy being bad when there are videos where he just wrecked starting turn 4?

Of course, those videos are probably giving out a bias by showing when the deck works out, but what class can actually stop a 8/8 from destroying their face starting turn 4?
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>>163911453
First to win 5 games, but if that was you who left it doesn't matter now.
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>>163911289
tung who? link?
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>>163910952

I want to marry the Seraph.
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>>163911504
Anyone with Dance of death
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>>163911464
Give me a meme ass list and I will
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>>163911515
/tung0127
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>>163911504

WALK MY WAY AND I'LL STRIKE YOU DOWN!
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>>163911504
>No turn 4 Atomeme
>No turn 5 Ceridwen
>Lose
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>>163911198
Room still up and empty.
89316
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>>163911504

It also means you have to be playing vs. people who let your boards live from turn-to-turn

If you aren't playing aggro and there are enemy followers still on the board at the end of your turn 2 or 3, you fucked up somewhere
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>>163911504
He can come out on turn 2. People that play tourney/care about rankings don't like inconsistency though
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>>163911618
How exactly?
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>>163911605
all my decks are haven is that fine with you?
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Rate my ROB theorical midrange blood.
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>>163911682
Turn 1 Burial Grounds
Turn 2 Ghoul's Banquet and Skeleton Fighter.
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>>163909985
Because I'll be seeing weird shit for a while to come and that makes me happy.
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>>163910985
Something along the lines of this, though this list is going to change a lot than the Aggro Sword list depending on the initial meta.

The new Blood cards are amazing. Yurius is particular I think could be the best card out of Rise, his stat line gives him resilience against removal and his ability makes it hard to race. Playing him into Veight will probably win a lot of aggro match ups on its own since it makes racing difficult for your opponent.

I'm not sold on Matriarch but I'm going to try her at 2 to start. Mastema and Moriana are under consideration, but they're fairly specific cards.

If you're building decks I'd recommend throwing your control match ups and building to beat aggro until you see what decks are popular. Tempo Rune and Aggro Sword are probably going to be the most popular decks for the first few weeks.
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>>163911685
yeah, you have a higher chance of winning but challenge is good.
>>
What time does the expansion hit tomorrow?
>>
>>163911504
Dragon, Rune, Forest and Shadow all have commonly played ways to shut it down on curve t3-4.

The problem is that the deck is inconsistent, requiring not only a bunch of specific cards (atomeme + ceridwen) in your hand to be viable, but also for you to build enough board early on.

It's not terrible, but it's horribly inconsistent, and honestly a single fatty is never that hard to deal with. It's always dependent on basically having infinite atomemes after the first.
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>>163910987
Our literal guy Envybae
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>>163911717
>Mastema
It's shit.

>>163911771
>Flood Behemoth
It's shit.
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Help with a private mission please?

16706
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>>163911504
Atomy throws away a lot of your field. This isn't important if you think of him as 8-10 damage every turn, but it also means your opponent can commit more cards to killing him without taking a disadvantage, which is the real problem here. Even turn 2 Atomy isn't a sure win against a lot of the major match ups in the meta, Ancient Elf and the Sword ward can stall him out, and a single swing on him doesn't put people low enough to Cerberus combo without help.
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>>163911778
holy fuck i bricked hard
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>>163911771

>flood behemoth

???
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>>163911909
>Hare Haven
decklist? after we're done?
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>>163911878
Thank you elf
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Thoughts?
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>>163912062
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.6.63dOg.63dOg.63dOg.67WPs.67WPs.67WPs.6BFgM.6BFgM.6BFgM.6BI6S.6BI6S.6BI6S.6BLHQ.6BLHQ.5_p-4.5_p-4.5_p-4.63ilo.63ilo.63ilo.63i_a.63i_a.63i_a.6BM-o.6BM-o.6BM-o.63i_Q.63i_Q.63iHA.63iHA.6BI6m.6BI6m.fqZ4o.fqZ4o.67Yro.67Yro.67Yro.63iH0.63iH0.63iH0

this is the one everyone will be playing
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>>163911717
I don't particularly like the imp lancers or having 3x mastema.

You don't really need either one's effects in this deck. There are too many ways to efficiently deal with fatties, especially with this xpac. I'd look at Mary because of her Sophie's Choice synergy with Sadistic Night alongside the usual suspects as well as her normal high dmg combos that give you some real insane reach. As well I'd look at mixing together Veights and MSD's, as MSD's are just too fucking good to overlook. Also Righteous demon is always good and I don't think I'd leave him out of any blood slower than aggro right now.
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>>163912091
That looks like something that will brick your hand a lot.
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>>163911919
Flood Behemoth should win any Forest match up that develops when played on curve with evo, which is why he's at 3. He kills Cynthia and Eve and wipes out the board behind them, and only a fully boosted Ancient Elf can safely counter kill him. If Forest turns out to be uncommon he'll be dropped.
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>>163911504
>Blowing up your board for just a dude
Lord Atomy is boring and shit as fuck, it's a super Timmy card in a really bad and bland way.
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>>163912142
The curve is actually pretty modest for a control deck, treating Revelation as 4pp.
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>>163912105
Mastema is still a threat to remove provide the opponent doesn't have hard removal on hand, but even then they would still need to waste a removal on Mastema unless they want 6 damage in the face. I agree with you about Mary, though. If only I have more of her.
Though, I don't think letting vengeance dependant cards like Righteous Devil in would be a good idea.
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Thanks for letting me practice Take Two with you Koreanon, I'm really bad at it
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>>163912105
I probably wouldn't go with 3+ of both altogether like that anon, I'd more likely choose one of the two and run 2 or 3, but I think you'd be lacking just a bit on hard hitters to close out without either of them. I'd also consider Flood too since, like >>163912153 says, he absolutely demolishes Forest like no one's business.
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When can you start buying RoB packs?
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Anyone know how many hours until expac comes out? It's 9am in Japan in 14 hours.
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>>163912176
The said board mostly is 1pp cards that were here to summon him in the first place.
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>>163912062
Bad.
So many 2-offs are gonna make you a lot less consistent than you should be.
No Marys.
You run Righteous and Moriana, yet no Alucard, you have no way of burst healing sans evos and without kisses or wardrobes you have no cheap healing method either.
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Thank me later
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>>163912301
I guess I'll make a cut for the pacts with kisses and Olivia with Alucards, though I guess I'll keep Temptress for the time being since I only have one Mary.
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>>163912341
I'm convinced that half of you have no idea how to build decks.
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>>163912105
>don't like imp lancers

the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>163912375
The other half got pulled into granblue fantasy
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>>163911771
>Yurius is particular I think could be the best card out of Rise

Yes sure, except for the situations where he gets eaten alive by Blitz lancer ;)
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>>163912341
sword will be tier 3 in RoB with all the removal blood is getting
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>>163912263
yeah i havent seen an official timezone release
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>Seraph vs Seraph
>They go first, so they get to play Seraph first
Nice game shadowbabs
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>>163912270
Maintenance starts in 5 hours, and ends in 15. That's when you should expect it.
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>>163912176
>phantom howl face
>soul conversion one
>use the remaining 4 to summon atomy
It's free!
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>>163912541
10 hour maintenance for that? What the hell
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>>163912452
D rank?
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>>163912510

>not running Odin to fuck yourself

Stupid hag. You cannot even trust yourself.
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>>163912258
I'm not gonna lie, I got some insane drafts and curve while I could see that you kinda bricked a bit. I had olivia in both the dragon and elf deck though I never drew her.
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Did wallpaper anon ever get around to making more than 4?
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>>163912417
In that deck. They're not particularly useful in a deck that isn't desperately searching for 3pp burn on t6+. Aggro blood it's great, but slower blood, I don't buy it.

>>163912261
I'd probably do what I do with wardrobe/righteous and do a 2+2.
They're both very good threats on t3 that scale well into later game, nearing unica levels of 'must remove' when dropped.

I didn't say anything about flood demon, and yeah he annhiliates bat and fairy boards and is really tricky to take care of efficiently without DoD.

But he basically requries an evolution and is very lackluster against 2hp boards. I'd think hungering horde will actually accomplish his job a lot against basically anyone other than forest until t7, at which point matriarch or bust. If forest turns out to still be a huge threat, I could see him having play.

My thoughts on Mastema are that 6/6 for 5pp is great. The downside really isn't that bad either. The problem is simple that blood is not sword, it cannot afford to just overstatted effectless minions on the board, you gotta be dropping shit that does stuff. Especially cause it's never really hard to remove fatties in this game and this xpac is only adding tools to make it easier to do so.
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>>163912452
>Control shit becoming tier 1 ever
>When d shift, seraph, and ptp exist
Maybe you can enjoy your reign in beginner rank
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>>163912571

>rushing the maintenance
>messed up and lost players' respect

Why would anyone want that?
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>>163912639

Nah you did good, I'm shit at take two

I can never get more than 3 wins
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>>163912714
Ask my kancolle devs
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>>163912596
AA2
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>>163912375
Patrician netdecker
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Fuck disconnecting Havenshitters. Just take the loss you cunt
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>>163912276
>>163912552
I'd like Atomy more if he had a Necromancy effect that just reduced the cost to summon him somehow.
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>>163912745

Just look at what happened in Hurtstone with their recent expansion. No one wants that.
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>>163912845
What happened, I don't play shit.
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>>163912801
Atomy better not get good, I've liquified him twice already.
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>>163912801
That's why he's pretty much a meme but I run 1 of him in aggro shadow just so I can pull off that combo. It's funny when it works or when you get lucky and drop him on turn 3/4.
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>>163906363
Eris please
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>>163912638
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How does the new mechanics work like Clash and Enhance?

Enhance seems to be kicker mechanic.
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>>163912903
HAGS GO HOME
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>>163912858

They somehow mucked up the card pools and made some cards appear 3 times more often than the rest.

They had to reimburse the players by giving them 33% of the total packs they have opened.
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Should I concede?
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what the fuck man
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DURR DSHIFT IS BROKEN WHY CANT I BEAT THIS 40% WINRATE DECK BY ATTACKING WITH MY CREATURES REEEEE
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>>163913018
>Eris vs Eris

>>163913032
>Eris vs Eris

Nice game shadowbabs
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Are we ready for RoB?
I want to make finally a Forest deck at first atleast, then complete that RampDragon but Genesis are cheap
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>>163912878
I've liquified animated versions of Atomy and Queen Vampire.

>>163912892
The only upside I see is keeping pressure on board if a Phantom Howl fails to kill. But if you Phantom Howl it had better kill right then.
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>>163913169
You don't always get the perfect draw all the time, and it's just there for fun, it's only 1 card so it's not that bad.
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>>163906363
Qt leaders please.
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>>163913098
>dshit makes ALL control decks unviable since lol I OTK you turn 7/8
>"it's totally fine guyz xD"
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>>163913098
Kys.
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>>163912691
To put it simply, the problem with Mastema is dies to removal.

I hate the phrase, but it's appropriate here. Mastema has no effect to make it worth its value immediately when played nor when it is killed.
This means that it does nothing to your opponent nor their board when played. So on curve you spend your turn to drop a 6/6 and nothing else. Now the fact is that it is fairly easy to deal with that while putting out threats of your own. So oftentimes you'd put out Mastema, they'd spend a card and maybe a weenie dealing with it then go back to going face and putting more pressure on you.

It is a card that only really will work when you're ahead and you never need winmore cards.
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>tfw saved up 5k gold for expac
>tfw will have no idea if the cards I get are good or not coz they're new
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>>163912878
This xpac is stealth buffing him with all the good, cheap LW minions.

I'm definitely gonna try a deck that revolves around running him alongside all the good, cheap LW minions.
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>>163913287
Wait for netdecks.
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>>163913219


Then use midrange? Was that so hard?
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>>163913390
I am, that doesn't make dshit any less op or frustrating to play against
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So Dshift still has no answer to Otohime while everyone has one?
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Who was Soulek?
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>>163913358
>tfw thought that was one of my extensions and have been disabling them experimentally
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>>163913436
fire chain
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>>163913436
It already does, but you have to sacrifice deck consistency if you tech that answer in.
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>>163913439
Why are you asking?
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>>163913439
Soulek was a high rated master player (often top 100) who played in a bunch of tournaments and streamed, he recently ragequit though and vial'd his whole collection on stream, watching him vial 3x animated forte was pretty horrific. He hasn't been seen since
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>>163913439
Creative deckbuilder that quit because the game is less about good plays and more about match ups and the first 10 cards you get.
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>>163913478
But fire chain is too slow for 6/12 bodies in 6 turn, not to mention its dead card for in most match-up like Tempo forest, and storm heaven.
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>>163913523
Why did he quit
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>>163913436
Unironically, the answer people're taking for Otohime these days is to just ignore her. Recent builds just try to go for turn 7 DShift more consistently instead of actually answering the board.
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>>163913439

You mean Soulkek?
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>>163913523
>vialing 3x animated Forte
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But who was phone?
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>wake up
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>>163913523
>tfw having to play aggro dragon with 1 non-animated forte
>there are people who vial animated fortes
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>>163913572
He was prone to tilting/raging a lot and he had a bunch of bad games in a row and said he just didn't enjoy grinding/streaming it hours every day anymore.
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>>163913572
>>163913530
Also he found out that SV was no longer fun.
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>>163913654
>no update
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>>163913530
So like any card game?

What a fucking autist.
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>poker pros suck it up during $250k losing streaks because variance happens
>some autist that streams anime poker quits after losing 10 games
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>>163913692
>any card game
Any ccg you mean. Tabletops at least allow you to have options every turn. And you might be able to reverse a bad opening hand through counters/tutors.
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>>163913523
>top ten anime betrayals
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>>163913759
Are there any anime about poker?
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>>163913759
it was probably more than 10
he was bad at the game despite being in master
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>>163913773
Yeah I love the option of hanging myself from the ceiling after mulling down to 2 cards
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>>163913773
Not that people use it, as almost every card game is a burn fiesta regardless, but they have the option
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>>163913810
>ofter top 100
>he was bad at the game
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>>163913759
they are pros because they are able to take variance like this. poker is extremely hard on your mind because of variance and the money involved and only very few are able to take it.
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https://twitter.com/Baltazar_love/status/814051710280736769

Is this real?
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>>163913885
did you miss the last tournament? DinoT was master rank >>>60<<<
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>>163913759
>anime poker.
I giggled.
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>>163913892
https://steam.shadowverse.com/news?announce_id=156

Found it, 1100 free rupies.
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Has anything been mentioned in JP about new class leaders?
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>>163913970
>>163913892
noice
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>>163913892

>>163913970
wtf i love japan now
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I have played for 22 consecutive hours and I have only ran into a Shadowcraft player last game. What a dead fucking class, waste of a fucking class slot.
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>>163913885
>putting retards on pedestal
that retard and his buttbuddy railgun fucking dogshit players should get out of SV scene
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>11 free packs for Bahamut.
Nice la.
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>>163913970
>10 free expansion packs
>1100 rupies worth of packs
wtf i love cygames now
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>>163913970
>and faggots were complaining about not getting free shit for christmas
Shame on you anons, shame on you!
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>>163913970
>>163913970
Truly, the Jews fear the Samurai
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>>163913970
>11 free packs
nice desu ne
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>>163913970
HOLY SHIT
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>>163913892
>10 free packs
>Another 11 packs worth of free rupies
aaaaaa im coming
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>>163913970
based nippon
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>>163914045
You log in and play their dead game
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How do Cygames even make any profit off Shadowverse.
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>>163914045
The catch is cygames' shadowverse isn't jewstone.
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>>163914079

crystal!!!!
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>>163914079
It's big in Japan
I'm pretty sure it has more Western players than Duelyst and that game's still chugging along
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>>163914045
The catch is that we didn't get a Christmas present.
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>>163914079
JPs buy packs to have animated cards
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>>163914079
It's still a mobage.

>insert animated Island Whale webm here
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>>163913970
Truly the greatest.
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>>163914079
Just google "Granblue scandal"
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>rupees don't come in all at once
For what purpose
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>>163911990
Here you go

That was some embarrasing misplay on my part though on the last one
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>>163914103
>Duelyst
That has players at all?
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>>163914079
99% of the playerbase spends no money, 1% of the playerbase spends thousands of dollars at a time fishing for animated Ding Dongs.
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>>163914079
I'm going to shell out 40 bucks to get three alternate Ancient Elf.
I have become the whale.
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>>163914172
You left early, it was 4-4, that extra win was from the guy that quit on me.
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>>163914163
just explain it fag, I ain't watching some vid on reddit
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>>163914202
See >>163914179
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>>163914037
>ever buying pack
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>>163914270
I want to play bongo with those titties
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>>163906363
No one's gotten Rowen yet? Shameful.
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>>163914193
Oh well

I Am gonna get something to eat, good game shadowbro
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>>163914179
That's gonna change when the prebuilt decks drop though. I know I'm gonna throw down a lil cash now. I can only assume plenty of others will too since they know exactly what they're getting and it has special content.
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Has anyone ever seen evolved Tia in game?
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>>163914179
>>163914252
>99% of players are casual 1% of players are hardcore

That's a scandal now?
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>>163913559
Charge up Fire Chain with Sorcery cache in a previous turn and it'll be ready for turn 6 easily. If they put another Otohime it's already a tempo loss and you're one turn closer to winning. It's not really a dead card against Forest either since you hardly have to charge it. If they're using Liza then nearly all your spell cards are dead anyway.
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>>163914331
>implying anyone is crazy enough to evolve tia
Fuck that get bounced bitch.
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>>163914045
no leader
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>>163914276
not him, but even the most skilled players can't always win in T2
And you need 3-2 just to break even
Also for 4-1, 5-0 sometimes you can get vials, which is pretty shitty
So overall, T2 is a risky and slow way to grins gold
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>>163914419
Its literally free gold if you have tickets
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>>163914045
You play the game and continue supporting it by enjoying it.
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>>163913970
The time has come and do have I.
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>>163914419
Slow i agree but risky? You should almost always went at least 3-2.
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>>163914460
but it's also a grindy pain in the ass that could inhibit you from enjoying the game the way you please.
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>rupees instead of new leaders
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>>163914531
>you now realise that if you're averaging 3-2, someone else is averaging 2-3
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>Playing against Shadowcraft
>Necromancer fills the board with ghosts
>The man misclicks, hits me instead of my 5/1 Imp ancer and immediately leaves
Dreams do come true
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>>163914460
>tickets
did you even read the post i replied to you stupid monkey
>>163914531
so you are basically playing 5 games for nothing
that's not cool
Also, what if i want expansion packs, not the standart
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>>163914574
>Also, what if i want expansion packs, not the standart
This is the only legitimate argument to spend gold on packs rather than arena.
>>
Are you going to be able to liquefy the alt art cards from the prebuilt decks? And would they count as animated legendaries?
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>>163914639
No
Yes
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>>163914626
it's a pretty good argument desu
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>>163914691
Is there a list of cards that are from the expac rather than the base game? I've only ever done arena and now I want to know if I should get a bunch of expacs.
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>>163914178
The new expansion didn't help duelyst.
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are the (You) s truely gone ?
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>>163914626
arena is fucking retarded, spend 1.5 packs to get 1 standard and maybe break even. hurr takes 3rd grade math to work out.
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>>163914570
I dunno, maybe there's just a community of 0-5s that take all the hits for the rest of us.
>>
I love aggro shadow. This whole game was me being the master of 1-drops, somehow managed to punch through 2 soccer moms too.
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>>163914779
But there are also achievements related to arena so you have to take the achievement rewards into account
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>>163914772 (You)
Yes, it's all ogre
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>>163914750
Dead game.
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>>163914331
Evolving low pp for lethal ranking
Water fairy>tia>may> powergap > girls > powergap > boys > roach > goblin
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>>163914772
test
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>>163914723
you can filter by set in the game but there are lists
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/darknessevolved/
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>>163914750
My record is 2-3. That's because I ran into a guy that insta conceded.
I usually get 1 thought, it's not always 0s.
>>163914772
They were never gone you pathetic waste of space.
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>>163914639
They're listed as basics so they probably can't be liquefied.
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>>163914464
What if i play the game and dont enjoy it.
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Need a concede please
30119
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>>163914779
What if I find it fun?
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>>163914869
they are GONE you fuck
>>
>>163914869 (you)
>Being this delusional
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>>163914875
Basic means base game not basic class cards dumb dumb.
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>>163914909
I'm still seeing them for all of my posts, check your browser or something fag,
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>>163914931 (You)
>>163914909 (You)
(You) just gotta believe
>>
>>163914772
w-what am i going to do without my (You)s?? i-is this the end?
>>
>>163914906

go ahead namake
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I fucking love my waifu
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>>163914895
hhelp
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>>163914938
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>>163914938
No, there are 3 card sets at the moment.
Standard, DE, and Basic.
Standard are from standard packs, DE are from DE's, and basics are non-collectable cards.

Thus if it is in the basic set, it cannot be vial'd.
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>>163914968
Neck yourself autist
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>>163915016
F5 turbo autist
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>>163914938
um anon... Basic is a card type, Standard is the name of the original packs.
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reply to my post please
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>>163914895
>>163914995
Thank you vampy.
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Please concede

16766
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@163915071
no
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>>163915071
test
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Why do you fuckers have to do it in the general? There are so many trash boards out there to test it out.
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Is a Midshadow unfavorable against Midsword? I just cannot deal with his board flood.
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i use haven
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>>163915213
>Why?
Why do you think faggot back to >>>/trash/ with you
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>>163913970
>inb4 all the packs are rigged to not give legos during those 4 days
I don't give a fuck how paranoid you guys think I am but I'll be waiting a week after Jan 3 to use the rupies to buy packs.
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>>163915229
someone tried to tell me it's 50/50 but I don't believe them
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>>163915256
fag
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>>163915229
It's hard to say since Midrange Shadow is all over the place in builds. 3 Tempest lists should do decent though, and Sword typically has problems dealing with ward line ups.
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>>163915256
good post
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>>163915292
I'll do half then and see what my odds are like.
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>>163915292
its illegal to to fuck with the rates according japanese law
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>>163915292
>have 2 acc
>test 10 pack on my alt to see if its rig
>if no legos, wait
>if legos, open 1 at a time
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>>163915112
Thanks.
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So what time will the expansion hit?
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Play alteil.
just ignore the fact that it's about a billion times more hostile to f2ps than SV
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Erika is my wife!
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Does anyone else think imp lancer kinda sucks for aggro blood? It costs too much for too little damage. The only really good thing about the card is storm and it has lots of hp but the high cost makes it a pain to use for only 3 damage.
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>>163915548
looks rad, I would have checked it out if you didn't mention it's not f2p-friendly
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>>163915569
You're a shitter, we know.
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>>163915569
See
>>163915604
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>>163915569
Post rank?
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>>163915604
Don't be so autistic. Looking to discuss here mate.
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>>163915569
there's nothing better to put in the deck
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>>163915569
Yeah it kinda sucks. You're pretty much hoping you've driven the opponent down enough to hit for 5 on Imp Lancer's turn and then hit face again the next turn for lethal. There's not much else to run at that turn though unless you've driven down your health enough for Dark General.
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>>163915647
AA1
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>>163915569
Pretty sure it's literally the most damage Blood can get from hand on 1 card at 6.

And if it survives a turn, oh boy.
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>>163915628
>>163915647
>looking for discussion
>all this hostility
Did we become the /hsg/ refugee hut now? I'm AA0 btw.
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>>163915569
she's moon without the heal effect but with more defense, what more do you want for closing out the game
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>>163915656
I think the card is fine. The health means either the opponent has to use hard removal or trade multiple minions to kill it. I think the card is great.
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>>163906363
Erika a CUTE! A CUTE!
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HAYAI
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>>163913970
I will buy a Vampy for when i will play Blood in RoB with the day1 500 rupies and YOU CAN'T STOP ME
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>Midsword shitters are now playing Rousing Steps

I want this meme to end.
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>>163915685
>AA1
Shitter spotted
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Why did we only get 4 clash cards.
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>>163915802
Rank?
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>>163915802

>AA2

shitter spotted
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>>163915709
3-5dmg on turn 6 with one card.
If it cannot close out the game, then it's huge ass body that requires a lot of resources spent killing it that could've been spent stabilizing, essentialyl buying you a turn to draw more burn to kill them.
It has no hp cost, so no risk of putting you down to lethal range against other aggro decks or if you get knocked down to 2hp.

So yes, you are a shitter for thinking it's bad.
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>>163915823
Because it's shit.
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>>163915662
>>163915679
>>163915691
>>163915710
As a finisher yea it's good but the 6pp cost won't let me play it with other cards say, razor claw and blood wolf. I always find myself missing out on a tiny bit of damage that I would've gotten if I had razor claw and blood wolf.
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>about to win
>faggot opponent topdeck 2 (TWO) consecutive Dis' Damnation and finished me off
Ruined my fucking 5-0 you little shit, I hope you won't even get a single gold or legendary tomorrow.
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>>163915832
>>163915851
??
>>
SV anime when?
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Could someone concede for me, please?

33394
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>>163915932
>comparing two cards to one

eeeeee, stop posting now
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>>163915932
Yes, but you're already running 3 of each and having any combination of 2 in hand is less likely than 1 Imp.
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>>163915984
obviously fake because the (You)s are gone
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>>163915932
You do realize you're comparing a single card to two cards played together?
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>>163915867
See >>163915932
I could do more damage for less pp. By turn 6 it's already a race to lethal so having that high cost kinda kills the card if you're short of 1-2 damage.
And don't give me that perfect draw crap. Yes if you get a perfect draw or your opponent bricks you'll easily kill them without losing much of your own hp.
But most games in AA0 are meta decks who tech removal for aggro so you're not going to be able to runaway with it every game.
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>>163915984
>(You)
fake
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>>163915996
Thank you!
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>>163916008
>>163916009
>>163916035
That's why I run 3 bloodpacts. They also make it easier to combo out vamp fort and vampy when you have more cards in hand rather than relying on topdeck.
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This is Hamsa. Say something nice to him.
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>>163915987

Just watch the RoB anime
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>>163916020
>>163916042
Retard
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>>163915984
What shitty flag is that?
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>>163915932
You could just make a deck with Blood Pact, Bloodfangs, and Dark Generals instead. That way you'll get more draw for combos and cards that help you get into Vengeance for Dark General. Maybe put in Alucard too as a better finisher.
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>>163916116
But that's not about card games
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>>163916040
You run imp because you don't have perfect draws anon. She's there to save you when the game has gone to shit and you need to get in damage and keep something on board because 3 razor claws might not close but 3 razor claws and two swings from a 5/X might.
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Why are japs so bad at this game
>>
>>163916123
H-H-HEAR
>>
>>163916153
Card games are shit.
>>
>>163912091
>literally my list

T-thanks I guess
>>
>>163916114

I love ducks man

QUACK QUACK

haha
>>
>>163916139
That's the deck I'm playing around with right now. It's actually quite fun since you kill yourself just as fast.

>>163916159
I was using her for the longest time along with dark generals but I always find myself short of a few more points of damage. I currently swapped her out for midnight vampire to see if I can get a little more mileage out of the bats before they die.
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>>163916114
Really good for killing Saber as for earthrune or aggro rune. Its almost like a reverse Ace dragon.
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>>163916187
>wake up in the morning
>another fucking day of school/work
>eat some toast or some shit and get nagged at by your parents/wife
>on the train
>playing some shadowverse
>gotta make sure I finish this match in time while hiding my phone so those cuties like two meters away can't see me playing elana
>fuck
>>
>>163916129
I don't even know. Some british cuck colonial probably.

>>163916218
R-ROAR
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>>163915710
She's 3 damage for 6pp
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>>163916187
They aren't. They just are 90% of the playerbase so almost all the bad players as well as the good ones will be Japanese.
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>>163916382
with storm and you still have an evolve at that point

what the fuck do you want lol
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39103
one concede please
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>>163916308
Okay I think we're starting to see the problem.

You're running dark generals in a non-suicide deck.
They're gonna be dead cards most of the time and cost you dmg due to what you could've drawn.
Are you running forts? Demonic Strike? Killer Devil? MSD?

Your problem isn't that imps are bringing you down, but that your dmg capabilities are lackluster. The problem is that your dmg output is not good enough to do a 1card lethal on t6 with any sort of reliability.

Also midnight vampire is all sorts of eeeh.
Don't tell me you're running wind god as well.
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HIGH VIVID SHUTTERS GREEN Goblin
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>>163916413
1pp 20/1 storm
at the end of turn lose the game

it's balanced
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxhYs_SFdMs
MEMES, boys-
>>
>>163915569
Not every class can have access to broken shit like Forte.
>>
>>163916413
I want an actual way to close out the game
>implying it doesn't just get immediately removed next turn
>>
>>163916325
I'm feeling duck might fit into gimmicky haven decks quite well considering they can give their followers rush with general/sprite.
>>
Can I have a concede?
21259
>>
>>163915337
>>163915317

Maybe I just don't know when to use Foul Tempest to clear his board. Sometimes, I just clear it only for him to place an otomeme to troll me with.

I suppose I will check some vids to learn the proper play.
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>>163916483
This sucks.
It's not the one where the gook uses soul conversion and gets 2 ceridwens and just starts screaming KERIDUHWEN.
>>
>>163916492
She has fucking storm, what do you care if she dies if she already did her job?
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>>163916139
You're supposed to play one Alucard along at least 2 Imp in aggro blood, mate. They're not mutually exclusive.
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>>163916516
can you concede for me too please
>>
>>163916561
because if you haven't won the game by turn 6 as aggro blood then you've already lost
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>>163916492
Then it dealt 3-5dmg and bought you a turn for you to draw and play more burn.

What the fuck do you want?
6pp kill your opponent?
Because that's basically what you're saying you need.
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>>163916543
It's the same dude.
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>>163916470
Way to make Forest top tier.
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>>163916579
Thanks British Forte.
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>>163916516
>>163916579
Thanks Vampy.
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>>163916590
Dear lord you're annoying, Imp Lancer is more than fine, you are not going to get anything better at her job any time soon.
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>>163916590
Exactly. You don't need to worry about her surviving. If you get to turn 7-8, you just burn face. If you can't close it at that point with spells, you couldn't do enough early damage to win the game anyways. Maybe the opponent outplayed you, maybe you're a shitter, but that's how aggro decks work.
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>>163916626
Since you have zero card draw in aggro bats it's a dead card in your hand and by the time you can use it it's the only card left in your hand.

Once that shit gets removed you're done, your opponent can surely outdamage 3 fucking damage by turn 6, fucking DoD is only one off from Imp's damage
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>>163916630
But it's not the same video.
I want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3spaeDxGzJo&t=6m10s
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>>163916692
The problem is that aggro bat is an incredibly inconsistent deck that bricks more often than not and drawing an Imp Lancer in your opening hand is basically a guaranteed loss
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>>163916440
But it is a suicide deck. Most of the time dark generals really pays off for me. I just have no drain to recover hp so it's everyone's dying the deck.
This is what I'm playing around with atm. I swapped out MSD for dark generals a while back and I just swapped out imp lancers for midnight vamp, but I haven't tried it out yet.
>>
>bigger followers than dragon from token bloated hand size
>more healing than haven
>more wards than control sword
>more spell damage than blood
>more burn than banner in one card
>easiest purg
Guess the deck
>>
>Win 3 times as forestcraft
>Win 4 times as forestcraft
>Win 1 times as forestcraft
I think the game is trying to tell me something
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>>163916717
That video doesn't have turn 2 Atomy memes.
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>>163916721
Shouldn't you be shitposting about Avant
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>>163916721
All aggro decks revolve around drawing near perfect curves and they can all brick. Garura with starting hand is pretty fucking useless too if you can't draw your turn 1-2 amulets.
>>
New thread
>>163916818
>>163916818
>>163916818
>>163916818
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>>163916806
Except that other aggro decks have card draw just in case they don't get ideal opening hands.

Aggro Blood's matchup is completely dependent on their opening hand and whether the opponent has wards/barrage
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Fucking finally got to Master trials after a week of grinding but can't be bothered to pass them right now. Guess I'll go to sleep and try to pass the trials with new expansion meme decks in about 14 hours.

See you on the other side of RoB, /svg/.
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>>163916846
So then complain about the lack of a draw engine. Imp lancer itself does it's job properly.
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>>163916901
No draw engine means that a single Imp crashes your hand
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>>163916872
post deck
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>>163916918
Yeah if you draw like Sugita.
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>>163916729
Okay, true, this is a suicide deck.

But it only kills you, not your opponent.
Suicide decks aim to kill both of you equally, it's why they run shit like lykos and flowerbed, to guarantee that someone is dead by t5.

This deck only kills yourself.

This is really, really bad. Like holy shit this is a bad deck.
You have so much shit that cannot really do anything on the turn it's played.
You're running 3 forts and 3 blood pacts. 3x fort is real iffy because you do not want to draw lot of forts because of its reliance on bats. Midnight Vampire is also completely useless if you don't have bats on the board. Then blood pact, while good at protecting you from bricking, is a tempo and hp loss in a deck that does not have the time to really deal with either, thus is a terrible thing to run 3 of.
You don't run demonic strikes or Angelic Barrages to help hit face and deal with forest and mirrors.
Bloodfangs is just a bad card.

The problem is that your deck is garbage.
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>>163916993
Not only is Aggro Bat much more combo-reliant than other aggro decks, but having a single shit draw is terrible because you have no draw
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>>163913970
>https://steam.shadowverse.com/news?announce_id=156
Does it work like daily login or do I have to login on a specific time (noon)?
Because that would suck a lot, considering I work on those 4 days.
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>>163917023
I made it with the focus on comboing vamp fort vampy and bats cause I like the interaction, which is why the 3 forts.
Why don't you give me an example of a good aggro blood deck then?
Btw apparently there's another guy also arguing against imp lancer but that's not me.
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>>163917148
Each day that day's rewards will become available.
If you login before Jan3 at noon gooktime, you will be able to claim all the rewards.

Basically day 1, day 1 rewards are available
day 2: day 1+2
day 3: days 1,2,3
day 4: all of 'em.
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>>163904380

what if you cant nip?
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>>163917569
>what is google translate
use chrome to view them
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>>163901898
it is for sun/laelia/idol haven you pleb
also allows you to keep the board instead of themis
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