Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

>>163866649
Based Agapi working the obese passive aggressive faggots

Has anyone made their second practonium cube yet?

How's ping now? Can people post //pìng?

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>Archer2Sapper3Fwee3
>Mfw the damage boost from this patch

Literally 3x the damage output I had before.

Fukcing CNL when will they learn to behave like human beans.

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cute amigos!

What are the new changes not listed in the website?

>>163865250
>>163866497

Cause we're No Life retards. Truly the best ones at MMORPGS.

>>163867343
https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/5kj6nb/stealthunlisted_buffs_and_changes_that_made_it/

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>>163867101

>>163867413
>GvG is now 10x10 instead of 15x15

Bretty good change.

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Thaum 3 stats. Full INT, no transpose. Circle3 max attributes, no Nuaeles, wearing the 315 purple shield and sword. Pretty good.

>>163867865
And by the way, there's still no % scaling on Swell Brain.

Can this miko shit even spawn on channels other than ch1?

>>163867865
>1111
nice quads

>>163868225
Yes, all channels

>>163867564
Fuck, well, no point in trying to play. If you're in NA then I'll be getting double that ammount

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>>163867060
>Add second pract box to them game via a recipe
>Half the quests for them dont even work

>>163869042

Lots of them are hidden quests with special trigger conditions.

>>163868957
I am not in NA and my net has been messy recently. Got a little less usually.

Even 200-300 is playable (if you are not a QS3 main and you really should not be)

>>163869135
I'm pretty sure most of the trigger conditions are broken, the quests that give paper simply do not work aside from two of them

>>163869350
200-300 is what I get and it's horribly unplayable.

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Comfy is now recruiting again.

If you're in Telsiai or a SEA player considering to relocate to our server, do consider joining us.

>>163869480
Who?

>>163869480
Who?

>>163869467
weird
i had no problems with that for 3+ months some time ago

>>163869480
>Comfy is alive
There's still hope

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>>163869480
Will Capyba come back too?

>>163869480
The dormant erp guild rises again

>>163869624
Who?

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>>163869854

>>163869591
Anything over 200ms will make you have to attack twice for only one damage to be detected.

>>163869972
wtf is that monstrosity

> 30 Cookies used: Old Enhancement Card x1

card abrasives?

>>163870032

A Venezualan delicacy.

>>163870078
yeah. 1k exp or something.

How do I SR?

>>163870027
>will make you have to attack twice for only one damage to be detected.
i never saw that.

stop being a qs?

>>163870682
It's an issue for most classes.

>>163870383


a2 ranger 3 sr 3

How do I do the second pract quest? There's multiple parts or something right

Anyone got any demon lord weapons from the cardboard cube? Picked up a spada from one of them among other trash whites /blue

>>163871082
https://tos.neet.tv/quests?by_reward=misc_ore17
and
https://tos.neet.tv/quests?by_reward=misc_scrollskulp

>>163871171
thank you sis

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Like Katz said, Comfy is now recruiting. Join us now and be part of Matsu's harem!

>>163870682
It's a huge issue for every class.
Melee gets stuck mid-animation/animation repeats twice and only one damage instance pops
Ranged attack speed is DESTROYED and you get snared by the animation.

>>163871348
Comfy alive! GAME ALIVE

How do I craft orange 315 >recipes<? I want some money!

>>163872271
Full clear 290 dungeon for money.
Get lucky and get the mats

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Should I reset out of Cannoneer?

Having quested through R8 before already, Cannoneer C2 is looking grim to do it with.

>>163872271
>>163872596

Hm, okay. Too bad Kim still didn't gave me my practonium otherwise I would do this with my falconer lol

>>163871348
W-where are all the cute bois?

>>163873396
Canonneer can actually burst down any r8 mob using fulldraw>gas>blast>cannonade.

It's a shit class but you can get through the non aggro maps just fine.

Just turn off the full draw throw you to the moon attribute.

Why do I get banned from valve every time I try to change character? Gay Ben pls

>>163873720
Aren't a lot of r8 mobs immune to full draw?

>>163873945
It's the new Login ID error message.

>>163874151
I get the old one too. I wonder if the Commander will show up eventually.

>gvg is 10v10 now

lmao

>>163874293
>increase guild member cap
>reduce gvg cap
wew

>new ice blast

fun but icewall needs a cooldown reduction desu. still not sure if worth more than 1 point, weak scalling. I can sacrifice ice pike for this but...

>>163873965
I haven't tried on too many, but so long as you can knock them back then you can fulldraw them. It works really well on mobs that have a lot of hp because you blast them both for damage cap easily with fulldraw. Also remember gas grenade can be resisted and doesn't work on flying

If you don't have any other char to reset I'd go ahead and take the opportunity now if I were you. Unless cannon3 literally gets dethrone3000 or an attribute that gives cannon blast 7 overheats or some bullshit thing like that it's gonna be more of the same and stay pretty shit compared to the other archers. As you probably know as well the sp usage of cannon skills do not match what they put out either and unlike musket it's not a self sustained class.

New saalus mission is shit. They might as well remove saalus and just hand you 2 shards for logging in every day.

>>163875140
Deal with it, whaleboy

>>163875140
>New saalus mission is shit
Another fast one like Lake?

has any SR tried caracole, limacon and evasve action?
are they good?

>>163874285
Oh god no. Not again.

>>163875217
Yeah, it's just the statue defense part from the removed Area of Ruins. As in just the statue. No other goal, no boss, less enemies. Just defend the statue for 2 minutes and then you're done.

Why not remove saalus and put the blessed shards as rewards for party quests?

Anyone know how this "Victims' Request' quest works? I showerd up to the carlyle mausoleum but couldnt find the NPC.

>>163876074
Area of Ruin was also the shortest of the 3 original Saalus maps.
No idea why they removed that and kept the other two.

For how mandatory Saalus is I don't mind it becoming shorter, but they should maybe made it weekly, longer and with better rewards.
Now it's just a chore.

>>163876074
Glorious kim knows what we want

>>163876074
cant believe they kept Canyon even though its still bugged

>>163876375
>Area of Ruin was also the shortest of the 3 original Saalus maps.
Everyone (in game) always says it was the longest. I don't get it either.

>>163876605
The hogmas blocking you on purpose is not a bug.

is a gender switch really worth 500k

>>163876783
That's actually a very low price.

>tfw wasting a rank reset on a r6 class because I have literally nothing else to do but reallllly dont want to make a new char also spent millions on attributes

>>163876783
M > F yes
F > M no

>>163876298
What quest is that for?

>>163875217
>>163875140
>>163876074
at least they are fast..

but yes, just remove them all and move shards to 200+ cubes with a limit at 2 per char

>>163876828
i just want this costume out of my team storage, for 1 mil i could just buy the costume again :/

>>163876783
If you want to become a boy it's worth spending all your silver.

>FREEE RANK RESET

FUCKING JOKE GAME

>>163877136
that is a high price for being bullied 24/7

>inb4 andi

>>163876842
Better than me. The only shit char I have is one I made to test something and then delete. I can't think up anything so I might just reset them after getting to r7 and wait for R9 to see if some sort of good build awakens.

>>163876375
>made it weekly, longer
Now it's still a chore but you also have to do it the day after reset when everyone else does it, or not at all that week.

>>163877073
>Talt instead of shards
>Forgot normal people get only 2 runs
>2 per character per what?

Imagine what r9 content and dungeons will be at this rate.

>>163877012
Just showed up in my quest log with the Quest addon.

>>163877404
>Now it's still a chore
>2 times vs 14 times a week
A way smaller chore

>>163877404
>not being able to solo saalus

>>163877404
Didel blessed shards will only be obtainable through gacha cubes at a low chance, and didel blessed gems are the only ones that can be used on transcending weapons higher than req lvl 330
A Goddess' Favor voucher that can be purchased from the TP shop can be used to provide a 10 minute buff (counts down when logged off) that will increase the chances of getting didel blessed shards out of gachas
385 Dungeon drop an item that will reset the cooldown on opening a gacha. These will be the hot new currency.

am I the only one who cant right click players? cause its really annoying that I cant block bots

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What the hell-

This better not have replaced my Petamion recipe instead! Not to mention, they're level 170 gloves so they have no business being in the 130 dungeon, and they're even a quest reward.

>>163878673
It's the context menu addon, the patch broke it.

>>163878786
I'd rather get more talt that shit equipment

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>>163879192
HELP

>>163878786
>>163879378
This kills the diaries

>>163877750
No, it's a chore you may be unable to do because you might not be able to play the 1-2 days when the vast majority of the server does it. You'll have to dig around for shit builds of various levels to even do your weeklies.

>>163878000
Funnily enough, the Area of Ruins was the hardest to solo. It's probably the reason it was removed.

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>>163878786
>>163879378
The madman

Do Sicarus drakes drop drake hearts?

linker on a pyro is a waste, just throw linker2 on a dedicated support for maximum efficiency

THERE'S A GUY RUSHING 290 WITH ME THAT HE SAID THE RESET VOUCHER IS INFINTE LOL

I DID 9 RUNS WITH HIM AND HE'S STILL RUSHING MORE

>>163880226
Wait which voucher? Fucking hell imc

>Open boss cube
>Get Tyla Plate Armor

what

>>163880132
>wiz3 pyro3 wl2 nigga notices that Pyro is lameass without links
hehe

>>163880304

it's the one who resets missions and dgs, not sure if he was using the timed one (14 days) or the compensation from the early months

>>163880438
n-n-no, i'm just suggesting stacking linkers may be a waste, as most parties should already have one

>>163880606
Ahhh I don't have any 14 day timed ones only the early compensation ones left. Too bad I can't get on to test for now

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>>163880226

He means this one.

It's got infinite uses but it will still run out in 3 or so hours. I've lost count of how many times I've used it today.

>>163880226
He probably just had a gorillion of them from the seed event which IMC fucked up so hard.
Even if you let them expire, IMC reset them and today's the last day.

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>>163880761
b-b-but its best build and solos everything !! and fucks bosses to death !

o-o-or do you need a linker bitch to carry you?

>>163881259
Fuck, wish I grabbed one on the off chance they fucked it like everyone knew they would

>>163881259

kek, I picked the +3 tp

>>163881259
Shit, was it like that last week? I've been putting off using it till the last min

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someone pls kill the game, can't handle all those p-players on my screen

>>163881437
wiz3 pyro3 wl2 is the best build in the game

>>163879775
This is some of the dumbest bullshit I've ever heard. If you might not be able to play for 1-2 days then you're already missing shards. Dailies require you to play every single day without exception and you're trying to complain about weeklies not letting you skip days that dailies already require you to play on.

Tons of people will always leave a weekly to the last day, and you can still do it with the minority that does it in the middle of the week. Are you one of those people who thinks it's impossible to get a group for Alemeth because there isn't 24/7 spam in shout?

You're already digging around for shit builds of various levels to even do your dailies, and Saalus is easily soloable. The only instance people without full support builds couldn't solo was removed. If you're full support and you don't have any friends to coordinate with for weekly runs, try using the first 6 days to get autism medication. Fuck you for forcing me to log in for chores every single day instead of doing chores when it's convenient.

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>>163884218
>not wiz3pyro3kino sage
NOTHING outdps this build as long as there is a safety wall and linker
NOTHING

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>>163884218
>wl2

>>163884764
>>163884863
>I don't know mad DPS when I see it
Every wiz 3 ele 3 wl 2 is retarded for not resetting into wiz 3 pyro 3 wl 2

>>163885103
>wl2
stop this meme, you're literally better off with thaum2

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>>163884220
Congratulations, you've found out about one of the worst cancers about this game, or about literally every other MMO for that matter: Daily chores.

Of course, Tree of Savior goes above and beyond in order to be worse than other games. They tied made Saalus dungeon, but everyone ignored it because the only good drop from there was for QS3 only. They later added Transcendence, which was meant to become the Pay2Win feature of the game. Then they decided to tie those two things together, except they forgot that Saalus is actually mindbogglingly boring and repetitive, but please simply aren't allowed to skip it, lest they become irrelevant.

God forbid someone makes a game where you can just play when you want or have time to. No, fuck that. It needs to become a second job where you have to spend 4 hours every day doing dailies on every single alt character.

>>163885215
People always meme about Warlock being shit, except they forgot that you need Circle2 in order to get Circle3 later. I am sure Cannon and Warlock C3s will be amazing.

Follow your dreams, anon. If you plan to stick around that long, that is.

>>163884764
>pyro3thaum2linker2
>pyro3kino2linker2
What about these?

>>163885426
better than retarded linker0 builds

This game will have more players than ragnarok online 1 during its peak in 1 year. IMC is doing a great job finishing the last aspects of this game and make it mature and fun

mark my words, screencap this

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>>163886026

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GvG sure is fun and interactive

also Alpha stomped Crimson

>>163885394

yeah as corsair 3 was amazing

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>>163886026
We are reaching levels of delusion that shouldn't even be possible.

>>163886145
Crimson had 3 people who were unable to cast spells/abilities, so that's probably why

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>>163886026
This will be the first OP this general will get after being dead for 4 months straight, exactly 1 year from now.

>>163885394
Corsair 3, Wugushi 3, Sorc 3, Priest 3, Cleric 3

There's a ton of shit C3 classes.

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>>163886441
Those are all being improved over time, specially Wugushi, Corsair, and Cleric.

Doppel, Falconer, Sapper for instance, all turned into pretty good C3 circles after changes.

>>163884220
If you miss a daily because of work or something, you don't lose a whole weeks worth of shards.

>you can still do it with the minority that does it in the middle of the week.

Not if it's long and requires actual skill. You might not have the time for a really long saalus and a hard one might just fail with the leftover trash you're forced to run with. Having it weekly is only really good for lazy neets who want to be even lazier.

>>163884220
>It needs to become a second job where you have to spend 4 hours every day doing dailies on every single alt character.
You don't HAVE to. MMO makers can't help people with work addictions any more than they can help people with gambling addictions. There is no race, and if people didn't treat it as such, MMOS woudl become better because people wouldn't be racing to complete content and beg for more either.

>>163886235
Alpha had two players DC and one unable to cast anything :^)

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I have to finally use these cards (3,4,5,6) at lvl 116. Not bad.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJHAJASKJDAHSDKAJWHUIQWJBDKJSGHD

>>163887276
That's a common error when using the reset scroll.

>>163887276
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJHAJASKJDAHSDKAJWHUIQWJBDKJSGHDXD

its a bug and we know that

>>163887276
Jiinsei still plays?

>>163886685

>sapper 3

lol

login and play
and then reset to sapper 2 + scout/ranger/rogue

>>163886685
wow that image is gross

>2 10v10 matches a day

Why is Orsha full of garbage pardoners

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>>163887834
I did today, it was okay before, it's even better now.

>>163887913
I don't particularly like greasy bodies like that myself but I have to admit it's somewhat alluring.

>>163887996
It's just another daily now :^)

>>163888042
i don't like fatties

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>>163862335
Thanks STAFF_YURI

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>>163886145
>>163886235
>>163886903

Put these monkeys down please

>>163888042
>>163887913
No, the artist managed fail at anatomy really really hard. This looks like some kind of mangled corpse.

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https://riseofmidgard.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&p=2176

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>>163888323
Fatties? Are you sure you don't mean healthy plump ladies?

>>163888323
so you hate yourself? lmao

>>163888558
i mean disgusting fatties. america needs the nuke

>>163888552
Fucking stop, no one here cares about RO you doublenigger. Talk about it on /rog/.

>>163888723
Shut the FUCK up I care.

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>>163888603
There's nothing wrong with girls that have a little extra meat to their bones, ya know. It helps them give birth to all those children that I am intend to pump into them.

>>163888816
>people actually like and encourage fatties
>these people want to spawn fat children abominations

i hate this shit world

>>163887227
jesus man, did you do every quest? How long did it take you? Were you able to stay within the level ranges of all the monsters?

I am level 100 and I JUST got to level 4 exp cards...

>>163888552
this >>163888723 and
>addditional/changed content
fucking worthless trash

>>163888750
fuck off and take that shit elsewhere

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>>163888959
Enjoy your twig figure girls then, anon. They can be cute too but too fragile to properly handle childbirth.

>not selling your blessed shards to level attributes
don't forget to get your attributes up while it's 20% off!

i plan to hit lvl 100 in 3 abilities over the next month

>>163886779
If you miss a day because of work with weekly Saalus you lose nothing. With daily Saalus, you miss shards.

>You might not have the time for a really long saalus
If you can't manage to play for an hour at a time, you can't play any MMORPG properly.

>and requires actual skill.
If you think Saalus requires "actual skill" you must be trolling. Even the worst failures aren't this bad at the game.

>Having it weekly is only really good for lazy neets who want to be even lazier.
This makes it clear you're dishonest. Dailies benefit NEETs and fuck over anyone who has a job or a life that could prevent playing every day. You're clearly a NEET who wants to keep dailies because they give you a big advantage over people with jobs and you don't want weeklies to let the rest of the playerbase keep up.

>You don't HAVE to.
If you don't HAVE to do Saalus, then you have no point.
>work addictions
I was right, you're a NEET. If they can't help people with work addictions, then you've invalidated all your "miss a day because of work" complaining. If there's no race, what are you complaining about?

>>163886779
>>163889253
Who even cares? There's no content in this game that's worth spending months of doing the same boring ass daily to transcend a single item.

>>163889219

undercut went from 250k to 190k lol

we will end up losing money even if we buy attributes

better just force yourself to farm raw silver

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I wish it didn't take me 20+ minutes to get into a tbl match

>>163889808
Stfu demon

>>163888979
Yep, did every quest and tried to do every monster and area achievement, probably did everything above lvl 50.

With token, I have been playing for about 8 days and since I'm on break you can guess I've played a lot. Wish I could get a more precise number.

>>163886685

no, it's not
spiked shooter still trash

steady aim > sapper 3 attributes + barrage to use while circling

rogue memes > sapper 3 attributes

flare shot alone deals at least 10 times more damage if you consider all the hits + circling procs

archer 3 multishot 15 too

claymore is as shit as your murms targe smash without high kick and slithering, except you don't have high kick and slithering at sappers

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>>163890019
I'll be the first to admit that Claymore is still trash, but Broom Trap and Spike Shooter are pretty passable as they are now.

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>>163890391

punji a best

laugh all you want but the fastest future farming meta will be ranger1sapper3hunter3

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>>163889856
not me

>Got some details wrong with my character
>Remake it, iron out the kinks and perfect it
>'Here's a rank reset"
>Now two characters that I can reset to do the same fucking thing slightly different

T-thanks.

>>163890816

>punji without aiming

it's shit

does superior corona rod replace 5 hammer?

>>163891384

yeah but

>why

instead of wasting 2m on a superior corona with gems and anvil upgrades, just pump your chars attribute

>>163891384
Do you need the aoe ratio? Do you have money to +x / gem it? Depending on your answer, maybe

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>>163891263
>Red Truffles
>Aiming

Please don't go full retard, senpai.

By the way, what kind of weapons and armors have people been putting on pets? And could someone post that list of how many/which slots each pet gets?

>>163891384
if you can get your Corona Rod to 700m atk it replaces the five hammer, unless you're a Taoist at which point you want the five hammer for the Aoe attack ratio for Zaibas

>>163891384
no

only if you spend much on it and that is not worth it

no

>>163891636
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/ktos-general-thread-v2-0/321901/4139

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>paper cubes
>have to get the recipe for the cube you want
>farm materials to make cubes
>cubes are still RNG
>need two practoniums to craft
how the fuck is anyone expected to get these weapons?

>>163893034
farm and grind for months
craft red weapon
+ and transc it

a week later R9 preview is posted

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>>163892074
Thanks. I am curious what sort of armors would be best placed on pets. I honestly can't think of anything, which is a good display of how boring and generic the itemization in this game is.

>20 min for a 240 dg solo full clear

is this decent at least?

>>163891636

yeah you'll hunt red truffles forever

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>>163893343
I would say so, yes. You can save A LOT of time by avoiding getting knocked down by the bomb throwing guys at the far right corner.

>>163893343
nice, what class? I take roughly ~30m on a necrolink1

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>token expiring
>no motivation to keep going
>Cattly's roommate situation didn't work out
>can't defend the game anymore

>>163893886
Cattly was talking shit about him in the /v/ thread earlier.

>>163893318
high def and HP armors
>virtov

high attack and HP weapons
>?

>>163893954
really? link me senpai

>>163893954
Pics or link?

>>163894052
>high attack and HP weapons
technically a the 315 Purple Mace since it gives like +20 Con

a Durandal might be good, 3 sockets for red gems, +15 CON

>>163894132
>>>/v/362011096

>>163894196
>>163894132
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/361992507/#362011096
barely anything, but still.
You can probably ask Cattly about it more directly.
id/mariannya

>>163894287
>>163894254
>tfw you can tell Kora is posting because of the exclamation points

>>163869480
Greatest tosg leader is back!

>>163894374
Cattle did that too. And others.

>>163894287
>>163894254
that's a shame it turned out that way, but thats what you get when you tell a guy you met in a video game to come over and stick it in your pooper I guess

>>163894287
I swear this game isn't nearly as bad as /v/ likes to pretend it is. It has problems but it's better than a lot of MMOs and at the very least has a nice class system.

>>163894831
It's cute too!

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>>163894287
>Please let me know if there is anything I can do to make your day better!
Not deleting me without warning while I'm away you BASTARD!

>>163894707
He was warned and all he said was "this is going to be fine"

>>163893573
>>163893484

actually it was 23 min

thanks! I need to improve my positioning and my bird lol, but since my vpn died I've been having some serious lags

build is a2 sapper 2 scout 1 falconer 3

>>163894374
That wasn't me!!

>>163894831
/v/ hates on almost all games

someone teach me how to get a memeronium faster

10 days already

>>163895242
thats pretty good considering the downtime on your skills are kind of long

>>163893212
We'll be using r8 gear to clear r9 content
Just like we used r7 gear to clear r8

>>163897163
>only 10 days
LOL

>>163897163
10 days is almost nothing, stop crying like a baby.

>>163897934
>10 days to get a weapon without which you're worthless is nothing
Might as well buy XIV at this point

>>163897641
>Just like we used r7 gear to clear r8
Not sure if r7 weapons can do ET40 and new GRaids

>quests
are mean'd to be easy mode for lvling

https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=781

Wow

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>>163898760
FP STRONK SENPAIS

>>163898760
How come cute made it but not the PvP guild futureproof?

>>163869480
how do I join??

>>163898869
FP did one (1) game but it showed up as 0 win 3 lose on the rankings with a sub 950 mmr.

>>163898915

Send a friend request to me, Katzenberg, and when we're both online I'll send ya an invite.

>>163898869
Because ranks don't matter anything.

Since someone with 0 win 1 lose will most likely to be in. and people who actually try to gvg will never get in if they get more than 1 loss

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buffies....buFfifES.... BUFFIES.................

BUFFIES!!!!!!!!!!!

>>163898521
I was just saying that the r8 stuff won't be useless in r9
At least it isn't like some mmo's where the second new content arrives you ditch your old gear for some white garbage with 10 times better stats.
If you get a decent r8 weapon chances are it will last you through a good part of r9 as well

>>163900367
>I was just saying that the r8 stuff won't be useless in r9
They most likely will.

Unless every class get an agni to boost lower ranks dmg by few 1000%, there is no point on using lower rank skill on higher level content, even if its R8 on R9. That literally happened with R7, why wouldn't happen with R8?

>>163888465
doing gods work

orsha stronk

>>163888465
fucking huecrimson i swear

>>163888465
>Strongest guild on NA is from orsha
>The rejected server with pinoys and brazilians
>white amurican blood master race can't compete with them

Really makes you think

>timerys temple
>autoattack
>7k sacrament lines

wut

>>163901280
alpha is primarily white if it makes you feel better

>>163901481
ikr, all Argentinians

>>163901481
Y-Yea, w-we have to believe that, r-right?

>>163901481
white and asian, mostly

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>>163901534
>>163901601
t. klaicucks

>>163903486
shut the fuck up

>>163900539
I'm talking about gear not ranks and skills
The guy was basically implying there's no point farming r8 gear which I disagree with
Because apart from my weapon I'm still using r7 gear and here we are mid way through r8

What's the stat distribution for a pvp lancer?

So is the game good yet? I keep coming backw ith hope. I had so much fun reaching level 100.

Does kagura dance affect your own chara, so you can do an additional line of dmg, or only others?

>>163904716
It's a channel isn't it? Don't know how you could attack while doing it.

>>163904679
Did you have fun? Then play. If not, don't play.

why we still so dead

>>163905351
People realized that even though lots of content was added it's all higher level than we are equipped to handle still. Also people doing migo stuff.

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>three 290s
>only 2 Cardboard Cube and 0 Artilonium
tsk

>>163905351
The patch novelty already died
Miko and Agni couldn't save the game
Paper cube are terrible design, PvP is broken on multiple layers, ET is a trash endgame dungeon, WBs are pointless, the game will always bend over your GTX Titan with 10 people on screen, etc.

>>163906105
still steam's 100th most played. retard

>>163905412
thank god people are actually queueing up for this shit or else I'd never get this quest done

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>>163906105
but where are the agni memers?
100k firepillar when?
9001mil DPS where?

>>163906105
Why do people not like ET? It's the only place in the game where you get to kill lots of mobs and it's actually challenging.

>>163906287
maybe because you have to do it 40 times per piece of gear

>>163906248
agni memers dropped the game after agny was added.

>>163906312
Ok? It's literally the last thing to do in the game and you can do it twice a day, I don't see what the big deal is unlike other gear it's at least not RNG horseshit and once you've gotten it you've mastered the game anyway.

>>163906359
desu I already got bored of 25k damage fireballs, I mean I was already 317, what else is there to do

>>163906105
>the game will always bend over your GTX Titan with 10 people on screen
The whole reason why performance is shit is because this doesn't happen at all.

>>163904815
I had fun, until I started reading about the state of end game content, bugs, lag.

>>163906287
ET is repetitive as fuck
And for most part of it half of the party, if not the whole party, can just afk and wait a countdown to end

>>163906554
its honestly pretty fun until you get there, and thats like a fwe hundred hours at least, maybe a thousand if you get into the groove of dailies

So judging by the influx of power staffs on the market and spada being confirmed to come from cubes too, gonna go out on a limb and guess you can also get the old Demon Lord weapons from these cardboard cubes?

>>163906287
The novelty wears off fast once you figure out a comp to do it, then it becomes another mindless daily chore. Not to mention that the hordes of mobs you described is literally just one fifth of a five-floor run. The rest is just afking and running around in circles waiting for an arbitrary timer.

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>100k soon

Still need to get 1 more glad band

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>>163907652
Rogues are for sex, not damage.

>still haven't fixed the crafting bug
Jesus christ. When can I craft my arrows in peace.

>>163908817
https://github.com/Grita/craftqueue

>>163908883
I'm too stupid to make use of scripts, but I appreciate it thanks.

What the fuck hiro why did you remove all the (You)s? For what do I shitpost now

>>163909232
Try the release tab
https://github.com/Grita/craftqueue/releases

Download the .zip file, extract it and then put the .ipf file in your steam/steamapps/common/tree of savior/data folder

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is there a list of translated miko skills somewhere?

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>130 dungeon queue ded

I wish this game had fly wings. I hated RO's shitty maps and I hate these shitty maps. I want to warp around. Creamy card when?

No more (you)'s I bet this is Kim's fault

Anyone else plan on playing until servers close in around 15 years?

>>163910806
doesnt everyone have 4chan x anyway?

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What actually kills an MMO? Like legitly kill it, no more /vg/ threads, no more new players, etc.

Because in retrospect the previous MMO I played had more features than ToS and yet ToS is living longer than that MMO ever did.

>>163910931
i am

>>163911110
well no more threads requires no /vg/ guilds, thats why things like ROG died, sometimes they get absorbed into /mmog/

a mmo itself never actually dies until the servers close it down though

>>163911110
Failing to distinguish themselves from otther MMOs. It doesn't matter that ToS has bad performance, slow updates, and just ok endgame, the fact is it has a unique class system, makes gear actually hard to get instead of giving out welfare items, and a ton of "fun" classes and skills.

>>163911110
once the sunk cost fallacy wears off or a new game shows up and people's friends start dissapearing

>>163911110
>What actually kills an MMO?
Being literally a cash grab that was intended to shut down in a year from the start, or or being literally the Titanic of MMOs, not just people wanting it to fail out of butthurt or trolling. Like remember Darkfall hype and then release? It has to be like that bad but have been hyped up and had lots of money spent on it. Also mismanagement by game hosts can lead to the host dropping it. See: Aeria games

There's also trying to be WoW and not realizing there's literally no reason to play a game that tries to be WoW when you can just play WoW or keep playing WoW. (This is also the reason this game would probably have failed if it were literally just RO with better graphics: You can just play RO on any old private server.) This also kills a lot of KR MMOs that like >>163911275 says, fail to distinguish themselves.

>>163911312
>sunk cost fallacy
Is this the new word you learned after "skinner box"? Someone keeps saying it a lot lately.

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Remember me, /tosg/?

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>>163912152
yes

is there any particularly tough leveling gap post 200 that i should use my xp cards on?

>>163912246
No it's comfy all the way up now

Can you spread malleus malleficarum with breaking wheel or is it physical skills only?

>>163912152
Koenig still plays

>>163912246
I quit the game instead of grinding, so if you hate grinding you should just use your cards.

>>163893318
High aoe def obviously

>>163913643
well
https://tos.neet.tv/items?stats=SDR&order=statd&f=1

>>163913819
>He can't afford Solmiki armor for his pets

Fucking casuals, I tell you what.

>>163913819
Well some people say aoe attack ratio doesn't work on pets, I wonder if it's same for aoe def

>>163885394
>except they forgot that you need Circle2 in order to get Circle3 later
Good thing we have class reset now, eheheh

>>163914457
Yeah honestly I think cannon3 will be good but still I'm resetting the shit out of it and rolling falconer3. We didn't even receive kTOS buffs of cannon2, it will take another half year to r9.
Btw is qs3falcon3 viable in pve? Is sapper3falcon3 viable in pvp?

oh gosh storage is so slow and everything hits so hard

>>163914580
Sapper3 is much much better in PvE, for PvP they are both meh.

>>163914695
>everything hits hard
get grynas and glass bracelets

>>163915462
Was pretty comfy with roxona cloth + glass bracelets even prior defence buff.

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Quit the game
Logging in to claim my class reset and nothing else
Anything I should know?

>>163915462
i have grynas, i die in like 5 or 6 hits still
>>163915573
is cloth better than plate?

>>163915653
you might want to considering clicking it too, it has a time limit

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>>163915837

How does class reset work? Does it only reset your skill choices for your current class or does it let you completely respec your character?

>>163916395
see the picture above your post

its a complete class and skill reset, bringing you to class 1 level 1, and giving you class only exp cards sufficient to return you to level 1 of your old rank

I haven't played since CBT2. Is it okay to play for free?

>>163916903
just drag your ass to a high enough level that you can grind the money for a token and you're fine

Has Miko released yet?

>>163916387
>carries around 750kg of stamina pills
a god

>>163917020
Can't run out of stamina in the middle of a heated fisting!

Is there a stat reset potion now too?

>>163916970
Yes, but doing the quest now will make you want to kill yourself.

>>163917169
Yes, in the exchange shop for 990 exchange medals (~990 tp).

>>163917169
Cash shop goyim cubes

>>163917169

Some people sell it on the market for 8m~10m.

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>resetted from a legit build to a meme
>starting to regret

>>163917207
>Yes, in the exchange shop for 990 exchange medals (~990 tp).
>in the exchange shop for 990 exchange medals (~990 tp).
>shop for 990 exchange medals (~990 tp).
>990 exchange medals (~990 tp).
>(~990 tp).
>990

>>163917365
Eheheheh

So how good is the sorcerer class? I've always had a thing for summoning classes, but it just doesn't sound viable if you want to do pvp.

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what amazing luck

>>163917481
It's alright on pvp, the problem is that R8 introduced too much bullshit that lower rank classes now are pretty bad if they don't have debuffs on CC;

You can make sorcerer work if you take something like
Wiz3 kino sorc and wl2

>>163917481
Ok for solo PvE if you have circles in Linker.

I have a Sorc3, and PvP does not treat the class well since Rhevisan set was added to the game.
The summon is too slow/clunky to do much in PvP, the best it can do is spawncamp/catch lagging people in 2fps situations.

Go Necro instead if you want to play with summons and be somewhat decent in PvP.

>>163917693
This is what I'm most afraid of. I don't really have control over that summon the way you have control over them in fighting games. It's just an npc doing it's own thing, not much different from bosses. I'll just give up on the idea of summons for now.

>malleus' debuff adds billions of damage
>zombie bokor

it affects zombie? 30 zombies with a +2k damage bonus seems fun

>>163906287
>>163906415
I tried ET twice. It involved having a fucking pillar block the whole screen while mobs slowly trickled in and then a timer ran out and kicked us out even though the mobs were dying as fast as they came. Even when some guy switched to full time pulling, they didn't come fast enough to beat the timer. And some guy died because the fucking pillar was blocking the whole screen and he couldn't see what was hitting him.

The only place in the game where you get to kill lots of mobs is uphill. ET doesn't even come close.

That ET timer breaks my immersion. Why are we just getting teleported out and why does the instance just close? Is there some objective I didn't see? There wasn't much time to talk to the kupole before the group started, but I don't remember a proper explanation.

And what would happen if we did do well enough to clear 5 floors? It takes so many clears to get an item that there's just zero hope of ever doing it enough before the items are obsolete. I'm not going to spend mountains of silver rerolling cubes when I have more important things to spend it on, and the gear isn't really impressive at rank 8. There's no reason to assume I'd still be using it in rank 9.

And one more thing, my build isn't remotely viable for ET and I'm just dragging down the group, regardless of whether or not they ask me to join. I'd rather build for PVP or world bossing to begin with, and even if I play 24/7, I won't have time to make my 3rd character ET-viable.

>>163918001
It should affect every instance of damage the mob affected by Malleus debuff is taking.

>>163917481
It has its uses in pvp, and you can do some good combos with crowd control and temple shooter, but rank 8 scaling screwed it over hard. You're going to have rank 6 tier skills and a summon that doesn't benefit from transcendence while inquisitors one shot you from across the screen.

>>163906287
>the only place where you kill lots of mobs
Lol
Only in the first floor of each section, all the other are either party afking in a corner or killing one specific mob every X second
You literally kill more mobs in Saalus

>>163906415
ET is RNG horseshit too
Only ET 5F cube has 100% essence drop and since the not needed at all fragment drop nerf ET has been even more tedious

>>163917801
They did however buff Riding for better scaling.
New attributes that add your matk to the summon's attack and adds the summon's defenses to yours (potentially making Sorc the tankiest class?).
KToS videos with Sorcs that have whaled out weapons are doing well with Riding, but then again anything will given those weapons.

>CnL creating drama on Miko quest chain
Why am I not suprised

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This is just getting silly.

>>163918598
A bunch of retards.

>>163915746
25% magic damage reduction
You can put 4 yellow gems for pdef in armor/leggings but only 2 blue gems for mdef in boots, so having 25% magic damage reduction helps to balance things out.
Roxona is expensive while being low level though so I guess it's better to get cloth alternative to grynas/ibre (don't even know what it is, elgos I guess? Have no idea how to get it).

>>163917481
Sorcerer is kill, believe me
Well you can try building something like cryo3-sorc2-necro2 for decay&missile synergy but it will still be complete shit compared to pyromemes

Fun class for new players?

>>163919315
pyromeme

>>163918572
Can you use your normal attacks while riding?

>>163919057

fun fact: you an get elkosh boots (and maybe the othersparts too) from the lv 200 dg cube

>>163919057
>Roxona is expensive while being low level though so I guess it's better to get cloth alternative to grynas/ibre (don't even know what it is, elgos I guess? Have no idea how to get it).
Virtov Cloth is cheaper than the plate counterpart.
Getting that is a good investment.

>>163919494
Does that mean it's quest reward and has no sockets? It seems they added trash quest reward drops to replace talts.

>>163919480
No, along with your other skills.
You can only use the summon's skills, which includes their "AA skill".
One interesting bug (?) is that if you get CC'd while Riding, you can still use your summon's skills, though you can't move it around.
This was months ago though, they might have fixed it.

>>163919567
Virtov's boots have only 1 socket so they will have less mdef lol. I agree that it's better investment than meme virtov plate which is inferior to grynas though.

>forget sacrament
>removed cafrisun
>my skills ain't affecting the observation orb

can't break the orb desu my fucking run

at least I got one meme material

>>163919480
Your hotbars are replaced, like how they're replaced when you're sitting. Don't get poisoned by a wugushi before you ride.

>>163919721
I doubt being able to attack is a bug. The summon is a boss and it's normally immune to CC. It would make more sense to enable movement, but they might think being able to run out of CC and dismount is too much.

>>163920141
Actually summons never had boss status on iTOS (and it was removed on kTOS by now apparently). It reflects on their HP (which is a joke, summons die from a single skill)

>>163920905
I've never tried summons, but does the card itself help it? I'm sure if you put a crappy card for a summon it'll die in seconds but getting a good one will be a different story. Also do the skills change depending on the card? Or is it an universal skill set for all?

>>163921130
The summon depends entirely on the card, the best one right now is Templeshooter, since it has 2 projectiles per attack essentially doubling its AA dps.
Each card can be upgraded to 10 stars, which will boost its attack/defenses accordingly.
10* TS is standard for Sorcs.

>>163921130
Oh an each boss summon has their own skillset, though most right now are not worth bothering with.
With the Riding buffs that might change, better AoE might be more important that better base damage, assuming you have a good weapon.

>>163921130
I dropped my sorc when I found out 10* templeshooter dies from single aoe attack

So anyone know what in gods given name is wrong with the characer creation? No matter what name I put it says I can't create character. And suddenly it says the name cant be 16 bytes long. Good fucking god this game.

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>>163921872
The problem is that you're trying to make a new character on Kim's Wild Ride.

>she didn't saw that 62k/swing machine gun temple shooter

>he didn't see that 130k/tick fireball

>>163923387

>I didn't see myself everytime I play

What???

Has anyone managed to finish the quests that give out ripped paper?

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>>163924058

I finished the one at Inner Encidente District and got one, can't find the NPC at Caryls Mausoleum tho

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so lonely